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truth4me
5th January 2012, 14:35
I can't understand it. My dad is 74 years old. He was a good provider when my siblings and I were coming up. Food was always on the table. Clothes on our back. He nor my mother, who died in 2003, abused us.Now my dad would take a belt to us/me if one was needed. He used to get on me for asking "stupid" questions or at least stupid to him but raising 7 kids he didn't have time for games and chat sessions.That was 40 plus years ago.
Now I do have trouble with him over my grandson who is biracial . He hasn't said nothing to me yet I hear from family members. I don't tolerate racism in any form.
These dreams are terrible. I'm mean in them and I'm full of rage in these nightmares/ dreams. I'm ready to fight him to the point of killing him. These dreams scare me.
I believe our minds are "scanned" by dark forces and nightmares are caused by them.All I know is that I try to honor and respect him but these nightmares/dreams do scare me and I don't scare easily........
What ever the reason,could be over my and his grandson which for some reason I think it is,they need to stop...............
Eagle
5th January 2012, 14:37
could be from your past life, if you believe in such
truth4me
5th January 2012, 14:44
could be from your past life, if you believe in suchyes,I'm a believer and that past life karma could be involved.
Flash
5th January 2012, 14:53
I can't understand it. My dad is 74 years old. He was a good provider when my siblings and I were coming up. Food was always on the table. Clothes on our back. He nor my mother, who died in 2003, abused us.Now my dad would take a belt to us/me if one was needed. He used to get on me for asking "stupid" questions or at least stupid to him but raising 7 kids he didn't have time for games and chat sessions.That was 40 plus years ago.
Now I do have trouble with him over my grandson who is biracial . He hasn't said nothing to me yet I hear from family members. I don't tolerate racism in any form.
These dreams are terrible. I'm mean in them and I'm full of rage in these nightmares/ dreams. I'm ready to fight him to the point of killing him. These dreams scare me.
I believe our minds are "scanned" by dark forces and nightmares are caused by them.All I know is that I try to honor and respect him but these nightmares/dreams do scare me and I don't scare easily........
What ever the reason,could be over my and his grandson which for some reason I think it is,they need to stop...............
If there is anything dark, imho, it is the rage of and while being beaten up that you withhelp within you all those years. Few sessions of good psychotherapy or hypnosis would help you resove this. It is needed at this time. Believe me, rage that has been gubbled in can brew silently for years.
BestLion
5th January 2012, 14:57
Often what i discovered in dreams are the people seen are really not them, but someone else. And Da javu can often happen, when in that month you could see something or someone and recall that dream. Also people in dreams often represent ourselves and something that may be going on inside us.. in your case a struggle within on something related to the topic.
I personally dont think the dream has anything to do with your dad or a loved one. I think it has to do with you, and some dark foces around you..JMHO
Eagle
5th January 2012, 14:58
could be from your past life, if you believe in suchyes,I'm a believer and that past life karma could be involved.
I had issues with my father and I never felt close to him, I come to find out that part of that carried over from a prior issue with him from before, I had to clear it with help
ulli
5th January 2012, 15:03
I can't understand it. My dad is 74 years old. He was a good provider when my siblings and I were coming up. Food was always on the table. Clothes on our back. He nor my mother, who died in 2003, abused us.Now my dad would take a belt to us/me if one was needed. He used to get on me for asking "stupid" questions or at least stupid to him but raising 7 kids he didn't have time for games and chat sessions.That was 40 plus years ago.
Now I do have trouble with him over my grandson who is biracial . He hasn't said nothing to me yet I hear from family members. I don't tolerate racism in any form.
These dreams are terrible. I'm mean in them and I'm full of rage in these nightmares/ dreams. I'm ready to fight him to the point of killing him. These dreams scare me.
I believe our minds are "scanned" by dark forces and nightmares are caused by them.All I know is that I try to honor and respect him but these nightmares/dreams do scare me and I don't scare easily........
What ever the reason,could be over my and his grandson which for some reason I think it is,they need to stop...............
Dreams need to be decoded. Your father represents something that is not personal, but possibly has to do with your own authority issues. Possibly even with your own racism issues, which despite all efforts to the contrary run deeper in most Americans than they realize. It's in the air they breathe, having been an issue for many centuries. The battle against racism will take quite a few generations.
Coming from the Gestalt approach, where all is one, (gestalt means "whole form") then the father that pops up in your dream could be your own inner authority that your soul is unhappy about.
Since you say you are a grandfather, could it be that you are unhappy and frustrated about how your grandchildren are being raised? And probably you don't wish to interfere in that family your inner father (authority) is being made to shut up, which creates inner conflict.
Dreams serve to clear the subconscious of that kind of unresolved internal pressure. It's actually best to welcome that type of a dream. Nothing to do with your father. It's to do with you releasing your own unconsciously felt anger and frustration.
However, if you were to choose the belief that it has to do with your real father, (because all belief is ultimately a matter of choice, and I'm only offering an option here), then it could well become a self fulfilling prophecy, and issues with your father will then emerge, and even come to a head...
simply because you will be observing him with a hyper-critical eye, and he might pick up on that and even become worse, as well as a bit paranoid.
Which is why its best to run with the scenario belief that causes the least drama...and whatever drama has to occur, let it happen on the inner planes.
The outer world already has more than enough drama.
Rantaak
5th January 2012, 15:08
In my experience, it seems most likely that when we encounter our parental figures in dreams that they are not in fact reflections of our connections to them coming from our own minds, but in fact external entities posing as familiar people in order to most effectively target our psyche.
I have had similar dreams, one in which I began beating my father to death using a bicycle that I was riding. He was standing in my way.
The most important thing, I think, is to maintain a good sense of humor when it comes to things like this. There are all sorts of beings and creatures in the dreamworld who want nothing less from us than unsettled disequilibrium. Our habits and beliefs have a tendency to carry over from waking life to the dreamworld, and so by changing our waking habits and thought processes we in turn affect the way that we dream. A good habit to get into is pointing at things, as this has a tendency to allow us to perceive them directly as energy, which can dissolve the facade that many of the beings and entities in the dreamworld tend to wear like clothing. Another good habit that seems to be one of my inclinations as well is to attempt flight whenever I become confused about the validity of the reality I'm experiencing. The dreamworld has learned from this repeated demonstration of acquired lucidity, attempting to counteract it by increasing the complexity of situations and story-arc of my dreams.
Happy dreaming!
RedeZra
5th January 2012, 15:27
These dreams are terrible. I'm mean in them and I'm full of rage in these nightmares/ dreams. I'm ready to fight him to the point of killing him. These dreams scare me.
I believe our minds are "scanned" by dark forces and nightmares are caused by them.All I know is that I try to honor and respect him but these nightmares/dreams do scare me and I don't scare easily........
spirits of the night search out our soft and sore spots and inject visions into our consciousness with the purpose of well tick and trigger us to entertain and nurture sinful thoughts which hopefully from their point of view will crystallize into some sort of sinful action on our part
so it's not you truth4me but spirits of the prince of darkness
9eagle9
5th January 2012, 15:52
truth4me. I can't understand it. My dad is 74 years old. He was a good provider when my siblings and I were coming up. Food was always on the table. Clothes on our back. He nor my mother, who died in 2003, abused us.Now my dad would take a belt to us/me if one was needed. He used to get on me for asking "stupid" questions or at least stupid to him but raising 7 kids he didn't have time for games and chat sessions.That was 40 plus years ago.
To be very very clear .... I'm not asking you to blame anyone, but you need to shift some responsiblity from you. What is occuring is simple. The dreams have showed what is occuring.
You're angry at your father. You just don't why, because its not been examnined and this is what is not understood. It's buried so deep now you never had an opportunity to examine it. But the dreams are bringing it to the surface. The are not horrible dreams, they are dreams that give an opportunity to heal.
Abuse isn't just about beatings and belts. You are not aware that are attempting to avoid this by assigning the responsiblity to dark forces scanning you. You are really just angry at your father. You need to face that now. For you, your health--for everyone.
I'm sorry but...what I have bolded is covert abuse.
I'm not even going into the belt issue because the covert abuse suffices to set up a life long pattern of holding on to neglect emotions imposed on you. What was said to you, what you heard, what you felt at that time. Or more directly--- what you were not getting or feeling from your father because life had him preoccupied and disconnected.
For a parent not to have time for the children. That is abuse. Things like that are not a 'big deal' to the adult mind NOW, and we can rationalize them away as "that is the way things are. "
But...that is not what parenting is. You were not properly or optimially parented. This is proximal abandonment. You are exhibiting the same expressions of someone who had a parent abandom them.
...so you need to accept that you are angry. Do not judge that anger. You have every right to be angry; you had something imposed on you as a child that no child is able to walk through and come out into adulthood unscathed. We in society today still do not undertstand covert abuse. The fact of the matter is...you're not even angry at what you think you're angry at. We get angry because we have always been denied an outlet for our childhood grief. Imbedded grief, we get so frustrated at carrying this crap around we start getting angry. If you have not succumbed to drugs, alcohol, nutty religions or food to abate this pain you need a pat on the back. If you have, then this is your intializing healing process. All those mechanisms are just self medication.
Don't judge yourself, don't blame yourself, you did not create this condition.
You have to confront your father, you don't have to blame yourself for harobring secret racist emotions, that is your father's crap there. Don't assume that or even go there.
Get angry, let that emotion, out. This is an arrested grieving process so let it start again.
Becaue you are not really so angry as frustrated as to not have an outlet for a lot of buried grief that you have been holding on to since you were a child, since before you can remember. Because you don't have an approriate outlet for this grief, this frustration is expressing itself in your dreamtime. You are attempting to work it out there. So bring it back in the day light and just let yourself be angry, and let that old stuck grief come out. When you do the dreams will stop and you will see this setting aside of baggage be reflected in your physical life to.
This is called re-clamation of self.
Holding on to it sets up a chainfall of adult patterns like getting in bad relationships, and even disconnecting us from Source. We can't ignore it.
Don't judge the dreams Because I noticed you are judging them.
That is YOu attempting to help you. If you do not do something with this will come out of the subconcious and start reflecting in the physical body if it has not already.
Again not blaming your father. All our baggage is our responsiblity to fix regardless of who gave it to us to carry. But you can shift the responsbility back to him. Sure he did the best he could, he probably didn't willfully impose this on you. But it was imposed, this not of your making. But in order to resolve it , you have accept this for yourself. That you have rage and grief and its because of your father's attitudes when you were a child. Children are DEFENSELESS. They can cope these things out;it's only when we are adults that we are able.
And allow what you are really feeling inside. You've had it so long , its become such a companion , you are no longer aware of it consciously. Now its all buried in the subconscious and you are no longer aware you are carrying it. That is why it's working itself out in dreams. If do not allow this-- the dreams will continue because soemthing is trying to help you. If you have been asking or praying for spiritual help or guidance, this is how it is delivered. They don't come and give you a pep talk, they start rolling the boulder away.
Not a big deal to the adult, but, THEN, back then, as a child for your open inner child's heart, that is PAIN. Even just the fact that your father didn't have time for you is covert abuse. Neglect. And children will attempt to control this pain by taking on a role of either excusing the parent, or assuming blame for not recieving what they parent was supposed to be giving.
Your father made the choice to have 7 kids. Your father had the choice to remain preoccupied and disconnected instead standing up in the choices he made. It's generation a sign of the times. My famly was the same way. But...That has nothing to do with you, that was his choice. You bore the consequences of his choice. That's all.
You have to 'try' to honor and respect your father? You have to try because you were not honored and respected as child, taught how those things work by the very people who we learn them from. So it becomes a struggle to honor and respect that which didn't honor us back....he still is not honoring you if he's making snark remarks yet another innocent child coming into this world --they had no choice in the matter.
To be very clear on this....you have control over this situation that has been out of control for such a very long time. Those show some part of you is taking control.
kcbc2010
6th January 2012, 14:55
9Eagle9 said some great things and I wholeheartedly agree. I also have similar issues with my father and just want to encourage you by sharing my experience.
I dream about my father once in a while, but I've found that if I don't fight the dream that some thing inside of me gets resolved. The best part about these dreams is that I get to go back in time when I was a kid (but now I think and act like an adult). I especially enjoy the parts when I get to hit my dad (and beat him up if I feel like it) and tell him that his actions are wrong. (because as a kid you really can't do that and I felt very helpless and scared). A lot of healing has happened that way. I know, it seems kind of weird to have a violent/scary dream and feel better after it. It's really been a blessing to resolve some of these feelings.
Good luck to you.
Dennis-G
8th January 2012, 05:08
I have to agree with ulli on this. Dreams are symbolic. The people in them usually represent pieces of ourselves. Your subconscious mind could be sending you a message that needs to be decoded, or it could be releasing stress (harmful energy), or it could have been the pepperoni pizza before you went to bed. :)
Lost Soul
8th January 2012, 06:11
Dreams are visions from your inner self. They are given when the inner self cannot find any other way of communicating with you. The symbols in dreams are best interpreted by the dreamer. Think of the feelings you dreamed. Interpreting it with the spiritual mind and not the logical mind. Blessings.
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