blake
5th January 2012, 21:10
Hello Isthatso,
Indeed, I did miss this post of yours. Thank you for calling it to my attention.
I don’t think many people understand what hypnosis is. It has nothing to do with how strong or weak one’s mental energies are. Hypnosis is a natural process of the brainwaves slowing down until we enter a state of unconscious sleep. If a person can not be hypnotized, then they cannot fall asleep.
Singing is the ability to create pitch or notes with one’s vocal chords, and string those notes into a melody. Many people say they can’t sing. They actually mean they don’t sing well. Some of us sing well without any special training, and some of us need a lot of training to sing a simple melody; but we all can sing, just like we all can walk, unless there is some physical issue such as deafness, or damage to the vocal chords for singing, and damage to the muscles, nerves or bones for walking. In the case of hypnosis, the issue would brain damage.
Only a small percentage of the population is talented, with natural hypnotic ability, to get on stage, without any training, and perform for the hypnotist as they do. What percentage of people can sit down and play a piano by ear without any training?
In a clinical setting, just like the “white coat syndrome” in a doctor’s office of having higher blood pressure that one actually has because of nervousness, humans can interfere with the natural process of relaxing the brainwaves because of various stress factors. There are many reason why after several tries, one therapist could not help you into a hypnotic state. Because you did not enter an overt hypnotic state is not evidence that suggests you can’t be hypnotized. I assure you, you can be hypnotized, or you wouldn’t be so eloquent with your writing. Also, hypnotists vary with their skills and talent, and with client rapport.
But then again, one can decide not to be hypnotized and usually they can guard it from happening unless the hypnotist quickly does something known as a shock induction, that quickly by passes the mental guard. It is a process that I have seen many times, and experienced myself. But this post is already getting too long. But if you have interest, I can write a little more about it later. An interesting book to read is called, “Secret Don’t Tell.”
So many hypnotists are trained to believe, and tell their clients that they cannot be hypnotized to do anything against one’s will. This is true that the odds are, that in just a few sessions the hypnotist wouldn’t be able to hypnotize you to do things against your will. But with time put in to training a subject hypnotically, just like the time needed for an Olympian swimmer, anyone can be hypnotized to be a killer on command. But not by the local clinical hypnotist/ therapist helping you to stop smoking. Hypnosis deals with the mind, and the mind is very deep, very powerful, and mysterious; and so is hypnosis when you go beyond the surface of most weekend trained practitioners.
You write:
I'm not comfortable thinking in terms of the masses being sheeple - to label our fellow humans as sheeple seems wrong - implying that truth seekers in this alternative community are the 'special' one's. The special five percent perhaps. Another group already have that market cornered, IMO, and in the long term I believe it will be there undoing.”
I agree. I don’t like that term “sheeple” and am guilty of using it myself. It is very disrespectful and hurtful and no one wants to be called that. And to be sure, I think that humans must have different definition for it. Some people seem to define it as people who are not awake to the realities of how the world is working in terms of tptb. Others seem to define it as people who are awake to all this information, yet continue to take the same action as those who are still asleep. How many people are awake to the poison in some of our food, and yet they continue to feed their families that same food, and continue doing most of their food shopping at the supermarket? What do you call humans who do that?
As far as the five percent is concerned, it is just a very interesting phenomena that I keep coming across traveling the different avenues of my life. Are they better or worse than the rest of humanity? I don’t believe so; they are just different in some ability or talent.
You write:
“In my experience there does seem to be a point of difference in a small minority of people able and willing to put pieces of this puzzle together. Able to seek the truth, look directly at very unpleasant situations, and they are determined to route out and expose the cause. When they do join together in places such as Avalon it appears efforts to establish effective action groups are thwarted and never really get off the ground.”
I agree, but why is it mostly like that? Is it just human nature? Humans seem to like to gossip. Humans appear to like to know information that others don’t. In my opinion, few humans actually apply the knowledge that they value to their own lives, or take responsibility to strategize some action after learning important information. The pleasure seems to be in the knowing, not the doing or taking of action.
I am wondering what you think of human nature? To me humans mostly just want to be cheer leaders. They truly seem to want other humans to do the dirty work of taking the knowledge and applying it to real life for them. It appears to me that many humans have a hard time with egalitarian relationships. Many humans seem to either want t be taken care of, to get lost in the flock. Or, they want to be top dog and have their undying fan base. I think it is because of so many humans inability to build egalitarian relationships that they are so easily thwarted.
The founders of America did not have one leader. There were many leaders working together in egalitarian relationships to make American happen. Do we have those egalitarian relationships today? Not any that I can see. And we definitely don’t have them among the masses. We live in a predatory world, where one feeds of another, rather that work together in trusted mutual respect.
How did the founders of America developed an egalitarian relationship among themselves? I wonder what was it about the founders of America that allowed them all to be willing to sacrifice their fortunes and lives for liberty, without needing their own organization and undying fanbase? I don’t believe those types of humans exist today.
In America, there are many liberty fighting groups. All that seem to have a top dog leader with their fan base. They don’t seem to want an egalitarian relationship with each other because they appear to be afraid they will lose their power to another in this predatory world we all live in. So the whole ship will go down before they all decide to work together in mutual trust and respect.
Avalon is a very interesting place to be. However, in my opinion, the human dynamics of communication in Avalon, doesn’t appear to me to be any different that of any other group drawn together because of similar interests. We all may know more than many of those on the street concerning the issues we talk about, but we are no different in taking any concrete action with that information as a group.
You write:
“Well then, how can the dominant minority build a bridge to the majority whereby the majority feels safe and supported to be able to recognise the reality of their situation?
I understand your questions, and have asked them many times myself. I am encircled by highly educated humans. Logic and evidence means nothing to these very brilliant people when their sacred cows, and defense mechanism are exposed or attacked. I have had people look at me in the eye and tell me that indeed they understood what I presented was true and correct, but as long as they could take their dollar or charge card they would take their chances. The bottom line is that they have a good life working with the systems: government, media, etc, and they are happy. There attitude is, that it was just too bad for the people that the systems are feeding on . But they are special. They can afford the predatory nature of the system, and pay their dues without feeling the pinch because they were smart and got their plum positions. They really believe that. Their minds are closed to what the system will do to them. We get to the old story of how “they came for the Jews but I wasn’t Jewish and didn’t do anything.” I am sure you are familiar with the story, But the point is until an individual has their face slapped by the reality of these issue, and have them dropped right at their front door, they will not listen. Perhaps a small percent for every hundred you talk to, maybe that five percent will perk up their ears?
I must admit, over the past few years people have been calling me up out if the blue, people that I haven’t talked with for years to tell me that what I had told them before was right, and now what to understand more. But I think that is happening because of the economy and they remember what I had said would happen. I think as the crash happens humans will pay attention and demand change if they survive. But in the end, the crash won’t change human nature. Just like at one amazing period of time, liberty and unalienable rights, acknowledged by a government was won; but how long did it take to lose what those founder fought so hard to get for us. Education is key. Educating the young is essential. Yet, not only do people put their children in public schools, but society as total control over our children’s thinking today. How soon were they put in daycare fourteen hours a day? How, many kids have day care before schoo,l and after school? Parents have turned over their influence on their children to society at large. Until we take back that power of instilling our children with the facts about liberty and honest money and what they need to do to keep people from being controlled by the few, humans will always be controlled by the few.
Other then educating the young, in mass, with correct modeling of the adults, no matter what happens in this crash, it will revert right back to the old destructive ways, in my opinion just like it always has in the past. This is a fear the founders spoke of often…. “If only they can keep what we gave them” The people didn’t keep the freedom and the honesty of unalienable rights and they never will because it is programmed into humans to keep this destructive cycle. I believe that. I just don’t what or who would program that into human nature.
You write:
How can being divisive (using terms like sheeple) help?
It doesn’t help. One of the many basic steps all humans can do to increase peace and harmony in this world, is being more polite and more respectful even towards their enemies. A little politeness goes a long ways sometimes, especially when people are not use to it.
Why do so many people love to show their disrespect? And when adults do it, guess what happens to the next generation. I never understood what power impolite people thought they were showing by being disrespectful and using profane language. I think everyone should ask themselves the next time they find themselves wanting to tell some to ---- ---. how is that building a relationship? How is that building a bridge? Why does it make the person feel good to talk that way to another? And maybe it does feel good at that short moment in time. Perhaps it feels good like when sometimes a person might eat a pint of ice cream because of sadness, loneliness, or boredom. It may have felt good when you were eating it, but afterward, most will realize it was bad choice, but the damage was already done.
If another person made you so mad that you had to slug them or swear obscenities, to me you did a lot more damage to yourself then you did to your target? Telling people they are stupid or sheeple, if they are not what we call ‘awake”, is creating an ugly cycle of energy within, and not helping those of us who are still asleep. Have you ever worked with teenagers or young people? Sometimes they just have to experience it for themselves before they can understand what you are trying to tell them.
The only answer I have presently, is good modeling of the information that you do have. Be like Ron Paul. Don’t swerve from your talk, but always be respectful to those who have not awaken yet. Just state the facts. And when their time is right, they will remember, and wake up even if its too late.
What do they need to feel safe? “
Respect, security, information, and leadership help people feel safe. This information doesn’t provide that for them. So I can’t imagine how one can make them feel safe in hearing information. This is the type of information that causes revolutions.
Most people don’t want this information. It is human nature not to want it, It interferes with their daily life too much. They might have to take a stand. They don’t want a fight. It is easier to ignore it. People don’t like responsibility. Get them mad and they will want to tell the world. What will make them mad? In your face experience is usually the only thing in my opinion for many humans. A few people will listen to you and do their own research, most won’t.
I am wondering how you would answer your own questions?
Sincerely,
Mr. Davis
Indeed, I did miss this post of yours. Thank you for calling it to my attention.
I don’t think many people understand what hypnosis is. It has nothing to do with how strong or weak one’s mental energies are. Hypnosis is a natural process of the brainwaves slowing down until we enter a state of unconscious sleep. If a person can not be hypnotized, then they cannot fall asleep.
Singing is the ability to create pitch or notes with one’s vocal chords, and string those notes into a melody. Many people say they can’t sing. They actually mean they don’t sing well. Some of us sing well without any special training, and some of us need a lot of training to sing a simple melody; but we all can sing, just like we all can walk, unless there is some physical issue such as deafness, or damage to the vocal chords for singing, and damage to the muscles, nerves or bones for walking. In the case of hypnosis, the issue would brain damage.
Only a small percentage of the population is talented, with natural hypnotic ability, to get on stage, without any training, and perform for the hypnotist as they do. What percentage of people can sit down and play a piano by ear without any training?
In a clinical setting, just like the “white coat syndrome” in a doctor’s office of having higher blood pressure that one actually has because of nervousness, humans can interfere with the natural process of relaxing the brainwaves because of various stress factors. There are many reason why after several tries, one therapist could not help you into a hypnotic state. Because you did not enter an overt hypnotic state is not evidence that suggests you can’t be hypnotized. I assure you, you can be hypnotized, or you wouldn’t be so eloquent with your writing. Also, hypnotists vary with their skills and talent, and with client rapport.
But then again, one can decide not to be hypnotized and usually they can guard it from happening unless the hypnotist quickly does something known as a shock induction, that quickly by passes the mental guard. It is a process that I have seen many times, and experienced myself. But this post is already getting too long. But if you have interest, I can write a little more about it later. An interesting book to read is called, “Secret Don’t Tell.”
So many hypnotists are trained to believe, and tell their clients that they cannot be hypnotized to do anything against one’s will. This is true that the odds are, that in just a few sessions the hypnotist wouldn’t be able to hypnotize you to do things against your will. But with time put in to training a subject hypnotically, just like the time needed for an Olympian swimmer, anyone can be hypnotized to be a killer on command. But not by the local clinical hypnotist/ therapist helping you to stop smoking. Hypnosis deals with the mind, and the mind is very deep, very powerful, and mysterious; and so is hypnosis when you go beyond the surface of most weekend trained practitioners.
You write:
I'm not comfortable thinking in terms of the masses being sheeple - to label our fellow humans as sheeple seems wrong - implying that truth seekers in this alternative community are the 'special' one's. The special five percent perhaps. Another group already have that market cornered, IMO, and in the long term I believe it will be there undoing.”
I agree. I don’t like that term “sheeple” and am guilty of using it myself. It is very disrespectful and hurtful and no one wants to be called that. And to be sure, I think that humans must have different definition for it. Some people seem to define it as people who are not awake to the realities of how the world is working in terms of tptb. Others seem to define it as people who are awake to all this information, yet continue to take the same action as those who are still asleep. How many people are awake to the poison in some of our food, and yet they continue to feed their families that same food, and continue doing most of their food shopping at the supermarket? What do you call humans who do that?
As far as the five percent is concerned, it is just a very interesting phenomena that I keep coming across traveling the different avenues of my life. Are they better or worse than the rest of humanity? I don’t believe so; they are just different in some ability or talent.
You write:
“In my experience there does seem to be a point of difference in a small minority of people able and willing to put pieces of this puzzle together. Able to seek the truth, look directly at very unpleasant situations, and they are determined to route out and expose the cause. When they do join together in places such as Avalon it appears efforts to establish effective action groups are thwarted and never really get off the ground.”
I agree, but why is it mostly like that? Is it just human nature? Humans seem to like to gossip. Humans appear to like to know information that others don’t. In my opinion, few humans actually apply the knowledge that they value to their own lives, or take responsibility to strategize some action after learning important information. The pleasure seems to be in the knowing, not the doing or taking of action.
I am wondering what you think of human nature? To me humans mostly just want to be cheer leaders. They truly seem to want other humans to do the dirty work of taking the knowledge and applying it to real life for them. It appears to me that many humans have a hard time with egalitarian relationships. Many humans seem to either want t be taken care of, to get lost in the flock. Or, they want to be top dog and have their undying fan base. I think it is because of so many humans inability to build egalitarian relationships that they are so easily thwarted.
The founders of America did not have one leader. There were many leaders working together in egalitarian relationships to make American happen. Do we have those egalitarian relationships today? Not any that I can see. And we definitely don’t have them among the masses. We live in a predatory world, where one feeds of another, rather that work together in trusted mutual respect.
How did the founders of America developed an egalitarian relationship among themselves? I wonder what was it about the founders of America that allowed them all to be willing to sacrifice their fortunes and lives for liberty, without needing their own organization and undying fanbase? I don’t believe those types of humans exist today.
In America, there are many liberty fighting groups. All that seem to have a top dog leader with their fan base. They don’t seem to want an egalitarian relationship with each other because they appear to be afraid they will lose their power to another in this predatory world we all live in. So the whole ship will go down before they all decide to work together in mutual trust and respect.
Avalon is a very interesting place to be. However, in my opinion, the human dynamics of communication in Avalon, doesn’t appear to me to be any different that of any other group drawn together because of similar interests. We all may know more than many of those on the street concerning the issues we talk about, but we are no different in taking any concrete action with that information as a group.
You write:
“Well then, how can the dominant minority build a bridge to the majority whereby the majority feels safe and supported to be able to recognise the reality of their situation?
I understand your questions, and have asked them many times myself. I am encircled by highly educated humans. Logic and evidence means nothing to these very brilliant people when their sacred cows, and defense mechanism are exposed or attacked. I have had people look at me in the eye and tell me that indeed they understood what I presented was true and correct, but as long as they could take their dollar or charge card they would take their chances. The bottom line is that they have a good life working with the systems: government, media, etc, and they are happy. There attitude is, that it was just too bad for the people that the systems are feeding on . But they are special. They can afford the predatory nature of the system, and pay their dues without feeling the pinch because they were smart and got their plum positions. They really believe that. Their minds are closed to what the system will do to them. We get to the old story of how “they came for the Jews but I wasn’t Jewish and didn’t do anything.” I am sure you are familiar with the story, But the point is until an individual has their face slapped by the reality of these issue, and have them dropped right at their front door, they will not listen. Perhaps a small percent for every hundred you talk to, maybe that five percent will perk up their ears?
I must admit, over the past few years people have been calling me up out if the blue, people that I haven’t talked with for years to tell me that what I had told them before was right, and now what to understand more. But I think that is happening because of the economy and they remember what I had said would happen. I think as the crash happens humans will pay attention and demand change if they survive. But in the end, the crash won’t change human nature. Just like at one amazing period of time, liberty and unalienable rights, acknowledged by a government was won; but how long did it take to lose what those founder fought so hard to get for us. Education is key. Educating the young is essential. Yet, not only do people put their children in public schools, but society as total control over our children’s thinking today. How soon were they put in daycare fourteen hours a day? How, many kids have day care before schoo,l and after school? Parents have turned over their influence on their children to society at large. Until we take back that power of instilling our children with the facts about liberty and honest money and what they need to do to keep people from being controlled by the few, humans will always be controlled by the few.
Other then educating the young, in mass, with correct modeling of the adults, no matter what happens in this crash, it will revert right back to the old destructive ways, in my opinion just like it always has in the past. This is a fear the founders spoke of often…. “If only they can keep what we gave them” The people didn’t keep the freedom and the honesty of unalienable rights and they never will because it is programmed into humans to keep this destructive cycle. I believe that. I just don’t what or who would program that into human nature.
You write:
How can being divisive (using terms like sheeple) help?
It doesn’t help. One of the many basic steps all humans can do to increase peace and harmony in this world, is being more polite and more respectful even towards their enemies. A little politeness goes a long ways sometimes, especially when people are not use to it.
Why do so many people love to show their disrespect? And when adults do it, guess what happens to the next generation. I never understood what power impolite people thought they were showing by being disrespectful and using profane language. I think everyone should ask themselves the next time they find themselves wanting to tell some to ---- ---. how is that building a relationship? How is that building a bridge? Why does it make the person feel good to talk that way to another? And maybe it does feel good at that short moment in time. Perhaps it feels good like when sometimes a person might eat a pint of ice cream because of sadness, loneliness, or boredom. It may have felt good when you were eating it, but afterward, most will realize it was bad choice, but the damage was already done.
If another person made you so mad that you had to slug them or swear obscenities, to me you did a lot more damage to yourself then you did to your target? Telling people they are stupid or sheeple, if they are not what we call ‘awake”, is creating an ugly cycle of energy within, and not helping those of us who are still asleep. Have you ever worked with teenagers or young people? Sometimes they just have to experience it for themselves before they can understand what you are trying to tell them.
The only answer I have presently, is good modeling of the information that you do have. Be like Ron Paul. Don’t swerve from your talk, but always be respectful to those who have not awaken yet. Just state the facts. And when their time is right, they will remember, and wake up even if its too late.
What do they need to feel safe? “
Respect, security, information, and leadership help people feel safe. This information doesn’t provide that for them. So I can’t imagine how one can make them feel safe in hearing information. This is the type of information that causes revolutions.
Most people don’t want this information. It is human nature not to want it, It interferes with their daily life too much. They might have to take a stand. They don’t want a fight. It is easier to ignore it. People don’t like responsibility. Get them mad and they will want to tell the world. What will make them mad? In your face experience is usually the only thing in my opinion for many humans. A few people will listen to you and do their own research, most won’t.
I am wondering how you would answer your own questions?
Sincerely,
Mr. Davis