What if "They" are lying to us?

[Ba-ba-Ra]

A provocative short video from of all places - Fox News!!

It's basically asking you to consider "What if all the info we're being presented on the news" is wrong.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4zyo10lusCY

[crosby]

Ba-ba-Ra, thanks for posting this. now, if, IF, the main stream watchers would only wake up!!!!! which i think is happening, but needs to speed up! i think that this type of coverage is an added dose of medicine that the sleepers just might need.
regards, corson

[jorr lundstrom]

Just dont give them your power, your hope, expectations, your discernment, your life.

Stand in your own authority, dont lie to yourself, no matter wot conclusions you

might end up with. Their ability to misuse the power they have been put to handle

is dependent on our ability to lie to ourself. Stop doing that. They are just small people

clinging to the meat pots on our expense.

[meeradas]

Well, they are.
I knew it as a kid.

Was that rhetorics only?

[Curt]

What if..... Fox News was a big BS machine that was trying to stir the pot (ironically, by telling some hard truths) in order to help bring the country apart by the seams? Mainstream media is getting into the alternative media game these days. Pretty soon we'll be seeing Brian Williams screaming, "I'm as mad as hell....and I'm not going to take it anymore..." and then calmly throwing to a commercial break....

[BestLion]

Sure they lie to us. They hide stuff from us and wont open facts..Why do we never hear about mysteries like giants, theories about dates of the pyramids to be older then 4,000 years old "they will keep the BS age of 2,400 BC", They lie to us about evolution that has so many holes into it, and yet teach it as fact to our kids in colleges and schools. They lie to us about history i just watch about Egypt and they telling us that Egyptians were in the stone age and 300 years latter build the pyramids, "we cant even build them today". They lie to us and say we came from an ape and WAM BOM we are building great structors.
My theory is that if they told us the truth then that would destroy earth religions, destroy earth text books, destroy evolution completely, and would destroy their control over the mass. Imagine if they told us that Atlantis was real, and mankind had flight and a great civilization 20,000 years ago..just what that would to to the theory of evolution..the 6,000 year theory of creation in religion..think of science it would cause a total switch.
I think TPTB will cling to their outdated garbage of evolution, and shallow science as long as they can.

[taizen]

ROTF!!!LMAO!!! What if we weren't being told the truth by mass media? LOL!!!
:horn::rofl:

[truth4me]

It's not if they are lying it should be they are lying to us....

[shamanseeker]

I think it's wonderful that this is making its way on national television and on Fox of all channels! Good news, indeed! Maybe, we are at the beginning of the end of the Nazi cabal after all.

[ljwheat]

What if people would unplug the TV, and pitch it to the cub with a free sticker attached. And just start to live again. Unplugged and aware of only what it takes to be a free society. Take care of our life not the world. What if? John Lennon emagine?
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[Ba-ba-Ra]

What if..... Fox News was a big BS machine that was trying to stir the pot (ironically, by telling some hard truths) in order to help bring the country apart by the seams? Mainstream media is getting into the alternative media game these days. Pretty soon we'll be seeing Brian Williams screaming, "I'm as mad as hell....and I'm not going to take it anymore..." and then calmly throwing to a commercial break....

CurtisW, I understand completely where you are coming from and had the same thoughts myself. But I also thought: What if Rupert Murdock didn't like the way he was taken down by the lawsuits against him and he felt as if the elite group he considered himself in, had turned on him? (We keep hearing about the infighting within the PTB.) And Murdock decided to break from them or get even or maybe even had a spiritual epiphany ~ probably not the later, but who knows. If you've been following the Fulford story and James Martinez's release on CMN, this could all fit together. Martinez said some of the usual suspects had a change of heart. Perhaps Murdock via Fox Media is one of them.

Please don't think I'm naively buying into what I said above, but I also want to hold a place in my heart that great change is possible.

It's important not to look at each event separately, but connect it to everything else that is happening. Lots to consider right now.

[gooty64]

It sounds like a BS trick to me especially, if it's on FOX.

It is probably opening the field up to a third party victory.

This is opening up the channel for Ron Paul to get elected. For Americans to have HOPE in a fresh new (powerless) American President.

It is So obvious. The sheeple will eat it up and ask for a second helping...

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I think it's wonderful that this is making its way on national television and on Fox of all channels! Good news, indeed! Maybe, we are at the beginning of the end of the Nazi cabal after all.

Please! don't fall for this.....I am begging you my friend!

[Curt]

Hi Ba-ba-Ra,

I hear what you're saying, and you may be right about Murdock. It very well may be that he's flipped due to what's happened to him and now he's using his media empire to tell truths.

In fact, I would like to believe this. I remain open to this possibility.

But, the whole thing seems very put on. It's almost like certain mainstream media personalities are being 'allowed' to express certain alternative views, either a.) in order to co-opt the alternative media movement by claiming the territory, with the long-term aim of ultimately subverting it, or b.) to raise the noise levels and create hysteria and rouse the masses to the point of anger and revolution--to get everyone frothing and fearful and not thinking clearly.

That might be very helpful to them for any number of reasons.

It could be part of a longer game to break down nation's psyche--get everyone feeling hopeless and waiting for answers, radical solutions--or a savior to come.

(This may just massively backfire on them ;) )

Then again, to be totally 100% honest, much of the alternative media might well be said to be serving the same goal--either wittingly or not.

There's lots of panic and hype and hysteria right here in our camp.

In any event, we live in interesting times. We're here for the big show and I hope and pray we play our parts well and care for and support one another through it.

I will say, that whatever the case, the fact the MSM are expressing such views is significant. It does signal a change.


What if..... Fox News was a big BS machine that was trying to stir the pot (ironically, by telling some hard truths) in order to help bring the country apart by the seams? Mainstream media is getting into the alternative media game these days. Pretty soon we'll be seeing Brian Williams screaming, "I'm as mad as hell....and I'm not going to take it anymore..." and then calmly throwing to a commercial break....

CurtisW, I understand completely where you are coming from and had the same thoughts myself. But I also thought: What if Rupert Murdock didn't like the way he was taken down by the lawsuits against him and he felt as if the elite group he considered himself in, had turned on him? (We keep hearing about the infighting within the PTB.) And Murdock decided to break from them or get even or maybe even had a spiritual epiphany ~ probably not the later, but who knows. If you've been following the Fulford story and James Martinez's release on CMN, this could all fit together. Martinez said some of the usual suspects had a change of heart. Perhaps Murdock via Fox Media is one of them.

Please don't think I'm naively buying into what I said above, but I also want to hold a place in my heart that great change is possible.

It's important not to look at each event separately, but connect it to everything else that is happening. Lots to consider right now.

[shamanseeker]

I don't think they would do this to get people to vote for a third party victory. There must be a change going on behind the scenes for something like this to happen in my humble opinion. He was saying everything that the PTB do not want us to know.

[jcocks]

Something big had to have happened last year in order for Murdoch to have been targetted like he was with the phone-tapping expose... Stuff like that doesn't usually get made public, so something is up. And this may be a part of it....

But, that being said, I have a gut feeling that Ron Paul is not the answer for the American people. No-one gets into the white house who "they" don't want in there - and then, if by chance they do get in, they are subverted....

(Who am I kidding? There is no "by chance" involved when you're talking about the oval office...)

The only way forward for America (and indeed the world) is to pulll the old system apart and start afresh....and it's going to be painful, ain't no way around it.

[gooty64]

But, that being said, I have a gut feeling that Ron Paul is not the answer for the American people. No-one gets into the white house who "they" don't want in there - and then, if by chance they do get in, they are subverted....


The only way forward for America (and indeed the world) is to pulll the old system apart and start afresh....and it's going to be painful, ain't no way around it.

jcocks, I agree 100 million % with your statements.

This FOX announcement was cleverly scripted and not free-form sincere at all.

What is SHOCKING about it to me, is that anyone on Avalon Forum is watching FOX and hoping/believing FOX is finally changing or having a change of consciousness/heart.

[Unified Serenity]

RP is not "IN" the whitehouse yet. The ptb have lots of tricks to play from third party candidate to outright stealing the election results via the electoral college. Just look how Santorum came from NOWHERE to place where he did in Iowa! Yes, let's put them all neck and neck and when the EC gives the votes over, it won't be RP who wins, it will be X candidate who is controlled by the ptb.

So, I think there is every reason to respect RP's record and not see him as a mouthpiece for the NWO. Now, should he somehow get into the whitehouse, then if his actions don't line up constitutionally, restore our freedoms and get rid of these bloated gov't programs then we can have a fit. If we see them stealing the votes, we definately need to have a fit.

[kcbc2010]

Look, you don't have to like FOX news, but it's not like the other major news channels are better. I'm glad they, at least, admit their bias and don't pretend to be objective observers when they really aren't.

And liars have been known to tell the truth once in awhile.