Face of Bigfoot?

[jagman]

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/cimages/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/coast-to-coast/repository/photos/bigfoot-in-the-canadian-rockies/629326-1-eng-US/Bigfoot-in-the-Canadian-Rockies_photo_medium.jpg
Bigfoot in the Canadian Rockies
Taken spring 2011 by Todd Standing at his Sylvanic research site, in the Canadian Rockies.

[daddy fishwick]

Thanks! Do you have any more details as to how it was taken? i.e was it a game trail camera?
Cheers, Daddy.

[J0urney]

very cool!!

[kersley]

Jagman, Thanks for posting..
This is amazing stuff. I been sitting here for the last 20 minutes wondering how could this be? I checked out Todd's site, i'm just speechless...
They look just like us but hairy, what do they eat? how many of them are they? what about a hybrid human? i NEED ANSWERS.....

[kersley]

The more i think about it, the more the peices comes together.. I'm getting the feeling that the time has come for us to know many truths. I guess this is just 1 of them?

[Words of Joy]

Internet research tells me that Todd doesn't seem to be a very trustworthy person. I see websites are removed and a lot of people screaming hoax.

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[ascendingstarseed]

Jagman, have you seen Dr Lloyd Pye's video "Everything You Know is Wrong?". He goes into a very detailed analysis of the existence of Bigfoot, Sasquatch and other legendary Hominoids around the globe. Link to video:

http://all.gloria.tv/?media=59063

13/03/2010 19:18:50: Lloyd Pye is an author, researcher, and lecturer in the field of alternative knowledge. He calls on over 30 years of experience to write and speak about the origins of life, human origins, Hominoids (bigfoot, sasquatch, yeti, and others), and the work of Zechara Sitchin. This broad base of knowledge makes him one of the world's leading proponents of the Intervention Theory of origins, which stands in sharp contrast to Darwinism, Creationism, and Intelligent Design. His classic book about these subjects, Everything You Know Is Wrong -- Origins of Life and Humans, has been fully revised and updated as of July, 2007, and will be available from bookstores or directly from www.BellLapBooks.com. More information about Lloyd and his books can be found at www.LloydPye.com

[kersley]

Maybe Pye should contact Todd and sort this out once and for all..

[gardunk]

Take a look that this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0lcK1CVFEt4#!

[jagman]

Thanks! Do you have any more details as to how it was taken? i.e was it a game trail camera?
Cheers, Daddy.

Sorry I couldn't post a link last night, My computer was acting up. I think I need more memory.

[onawah]

The channeler Tyberonn has the following to say about Bigfoot:

Metatron: These you refer to as Yeti or are termed, Bigfoot, are earlier versions of the genetic experiment on Earth, primarily from the phase of Atlantis some 200,000 years ago. At that time there were many genetic experiments on your planet. These beings are intelligent, but genetically impaired. These massive forms were genetically created using human DNA with that of the ape to create a laboring humanoid beast, a beast with greater intelligence, human like intelligence, but with imposed genetic wiring that ‘unplugged’ certain areas of the brain. These are survivors of what you term ‘the others’ of Atlantis. These are remnants of beings cruelly created for work force within mines and forestry. The areas of their brains that allow for emotion, and expansive thinking has been artificially impaired within their codes, yet it is the same source that inhabits these diminishing creatures that is within the dolphin, yet within their bodies it is unable to find expression or mentally evolve. Only within physical strength and survival instinct mechanisms, are they able to sustain and grow.

These beings do not live in the inner chasms of the Earth. They live in caves and remote mountains and within your deep forest and swamplands. They are nocturnal beings. They are a race that is dwindling, shall we say, and in time will no longer exist. These beings have great fear of humans, and experience a great sadness and confusion as to their evolvement. They cautiously watch you, they know they are your brothers, and with baited anxiety and want to be closer to you, but are intelligent enough to know they cannot. Their bodies have evolved to allow them through the massing of thick hair, and thick oily skins to live in extreme locations, and here they live out their final era of life. Their spirits no longer wish to complete, as their genetic limitations are such that they cannot evolve.

If you were to look within the eyes of one of these beings, you would feel a great sadness.

Question: Are you saying that Yeti are the same spirit source as dolphins?

Metatron: Indeed. But be clear, it is same source, not the same expression, in fact far from it. You see, these creatures do not express the same vivid emotion, intelligence and joy as do the dolphin, because the bodies in which they are entrapped, does not allow them to. You may wonder why such spirits would choose to inhabit such restricted physical vehicles, and the answer is that fewer and fewer choose to do so, and soon they will no longer exist as a species. These beings are capable of expressing great strength in survival, and love for one another, but have decided to vacate this expression. If man continues to soil the oceans, and slaughter the magnicient energies of whale and dolphin, so will these magnificent brothers vacate this role. You have no idea of the light energy that whales and dolphins exert into your seas.
From:
http://www.earth-keeper.com/EKnews_may07.htm

[jagman]

Jagman, have you seen Dr Lloyd Pye's video "Everything You Know is Wrong?". He goes into a very detailed analysis of the existence of Bigfoot, Sasquatch and other legendary Hominoids around the globe. Link to video:

http://all.gloria.tv/?media=59063

13/03/2010 19:18:50: Lloyd Pye is an author, researcher, and lecturer in the field of alternative knowledge. He calls on over 30 years of experience to write and speak about the origins of life, human origins, Hominoids (bigfoot, sasquatch, yeti, and others), and the work of Zechara Sitchin. This broad base of knowledge makes him one of the world's leading proponents of the Intervention Theory of origins, which stands in sharp contrast to Darwinism, Creationism, and Intelligent Design. His classic book about these subjects, Everything You Know Is Wrong -- Origins of Life and Humans, has been fully revised and updated as of July, 2007, and will be available from bookstores or directly from www.BellLapBooks.com. More information about Lloyd and his books can be found at www.LloydPye.com

Thank you for the link acendingstarseed

[Seikou-Kishi]

Crap, I'm discovered! lol

[BestLion]

L Pye talks of a Russian Bigfoot women who married a local man from a village and bore kids..she was similar it is claimed in appearance to this picture in post 1.
I'm not sure if the Bigfoot race is still around or maybe died off years ago..But it seems they were here before..and I wonder on the many giant bones found if a few of those are not in fact big-foots.

[Zillah]

I saw this on the Coast to Coast website last night.

You know its funny because I normally dont stare at bigfoot photos but this one kept me looking...

I remember something I heard not too long ago, that the big foot people were actually a part of a whole race that is living here on/in Earth - very advanced, super intelligent - and were described as looking like Chubaka from Star Wars. They live very discreetly to protect themselves, which explains why we only see glimpses of them.

If this is true, then I must say - this photo does resemble a Chubaka-like being.

Interesting nonetheless.

[MorningSong]

I find this so interesting....and have always felt that Bigfoot was real.

Here is another video that I found:

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[13th Warrior]

L Pye talks of a Russian Bigfoot women who married a local man from a village and bore kids..she was similar it is claimed in appearance to this picture in post 1.
I'm not sure if the Bigfoot race is still around or maybe died off years ago..But it seems they were here before..and I wonder on the many giant bones found if a few of those are not in fact big-foots.

There was a lady on Coast to Coast awhile back that has studied Bigfoot(Wildman) in regards to American Indian cultural contexts.

Bigfoot is/was basically considered a brother to the American Indian and it wasn't uncommon for a Bigfoot to take an Indian as a mate.

[ghostrider]

I saw this on the Coast to Coast website last night.

You know its funny because I normally dont stare at bigfoot photos but this one kept me looking...

I remember something I heard not too long ago, that the big foot people were actually a part of a whole race that is living here on/in Earth - very advanced, super intelligent - and were described as looking like Chubaka from Star Wars. They live very discreetly to protect themselves, which explains why we only see glimpses of them.

If this is true, then I must say - this photo does resemble a Chubaka-like being.

Interesting nonetheless.

me too, this photo had me gazing strangely , I think it is the real deal. funny even bigfoot knows to stay away from crazy humans, who would probably kill them and stuff them to display, instead of trying the hand of friendship, and understanding. bigfoots if they can speak would know alot about the history of North America not found in books printed by the controllers.

[toad]

Regardless if I think its possible that bigfoot may exist, I personally think this is a good hoax. If you look at a few of his photos they all seem relatively the same, headshots, good resolution but with the face somewhat out of focus;

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/cimages/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/coast-to-coast/repository/photos/bigfoot-face/539722-1-eng-US/Bigfoot-Face_photo_medium.jpg
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/uploadsgallery/1285443952/med_gallery_18256_7_95778.jpg
http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/uploads/recent-todd-standing-bigfoot-face.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3ZolnR5MmlA/TWh9-JUHHPI/AAAAAAAABWw/K0Kty_Rtzjs/s1600/Standing%2BBigfoot%2BFace.jpg
this just doesnt look genuine to me, and wouldn't be hard to create such a hoax, game trail camera wouldn't take such a pristine photo aimed specifically at the face, maybe once by luck but three times? I highly doubt it. The skeptic in me says it is too good to be true.

[13th Warrior]

Regardless if I think its possible that bigfoot may exist, I personally think this is a good hoax. If you look at a few of his photos they all seem relatively the same, headshots, good resolution but with the face somewhat out of focus;

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/cimages/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/coast-to-coast/repository/photos/bigfoot-face/539722-1-eng-US/Bigfoot-Face_photo_medium.jpg
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/uploadsgallery/1285443952/med_gallery_18256_7_95778.jpg
http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/uploads/recent-todd-standing-bigfoot-face.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3ZolnR5MmlA/TWh9-JUHHPI/AAAAAAAABWw/K0Kty_Rtzjs/s1600/Standing%2BBigfoot%2BFace.jpg
this just doesnt look genuine to me, and wouldn't be hard to create such a hoax, game trail camera wouldn't take such a pristine photo aimed specifically at the face, maybe once by luck but three times? I highly doubt it. The skeptic in me says it is too good to be true.

I would agree; they are most likely puppet heads...

[BestLion]

Axtell puppets make latex puppets, they made lots of the puppets used in Planet of the Apes. Here are some Latex mask of apes and such>They look very real!

[BestLion]

Here are a few more Latex mask-puppets. The Pics of this 'Bigfoot' look as if they also could be made of latex.

[RMorgan]

Yeah, some people out there make pretty realistic masks, much better than those Big Foot masks, for sure. Check these guys out:

http://www.spfxmasks.com/ourmasks.php

Here´s one of them:

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Cheers,

Raf.

[Laurel]

This looks like Hypertrichosis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertrichosis

http://www.mymultiplesclerosis.co.uk/misc/wolfman.html

[RedeZra]

He calls on over 30 years of experience to write and speak about the origins of life, human origins, Hominoids (bigfoot, sasquatch, yeti, and others), and the work of Zechara Sitchin. This broad base of knowledge makes him one of the world's leading proponents of the Intervention Theory of origins, which stands in sharp contrast to Darwinism, Creationism, and Intelligent Design.

the Bible makes a point that the Deluge was a direct result of the intervention from the sons of God the ben Elohim who were a group of Grigori or Watchers set to watch over budding humanity

probably by genetic engineering many new animal species were produced and perhaps Bigfoot too

as the Bible says all flesh was corrupted


even after the Deluge there were Nephilim or giant demigods on earth so somehow the gene survived in mankind or the Grigori came back again after the Flood

which i don't think as the Bible says they are bound in Tartarus

[J0urney]

I actually saw a Big Foot many years ago. I was 18 and my husband and I were coming back from New Mexico. It was about 3 am and we were headed east on I 40. He was driving. It came over the railing of the road about 30 or 40 feet in front of us. At first we thought it was a bear. But then it stood straight up and took a step in the middle of the road. We slowed down so not to hit it. Then it turned its whole body and looked right at us. I was so excited!! I wanted to get a better look at it. He was so scared that he pulled into the left hand lane at that point and stepped on the gas. By that time it had made it to the other railing and was going over it. I was so mad. He was beautiful! He was massive. The one I saw was brown. I came home knowing no one was going to believe me. You guys are the first I have ever told publicly about it.

[Ammit]

Sorry guys and girls, i just dont buy it, the pics are good but something as elusive as big foot or some creature that has been here longer then us ( maybe ) is surely not going to give it self away as easily as that????

[J0urney]

The picture maybe fake. But it's pretty close. Cool to look at anyway.

[WhiteFeather]

Cool Pic and Thread, But someone will debunk it here I'm sure in seconds flat.

[WhiteFeather]

Thanks! Do you have any more details as to how it was taken? i.e was it a game trail camera?
Cheers, Daddy.

Sorry I couldn't post a link last night, My computer was acting up. I think I need more memory.

Jag, you should reboot your PC, it restores the ram memory.

[onawah]

I once held the preserved foot of a yeti.
It was shaped exactly like a human foot, human sized, only it was furry and had claws.
It belonged to a man who traveled often to Tibet and bought items back to be sold in the US.
He made some good friends among the Tibetans, especially some of the Lamas, over the years.
The Tibetans normally protect the yetis and tell tourists the stories about them are all a myth, but they trusted that this guy would be discreet, and so they gave him the foot and the skin.
(A Tibetan found the corpse, so no killing was involved. The Tibetans knew where the yeti's caves were, and respected their boundaries, but they visited them occasionally.)
I didn't see the skin, but was allowed to touch the foot.
It had a very strange energy around it, and made me want to cry.
I think it is true that they are very sad and lonely, and are slowly dying out.

[ghostrider]

bigfoot is seen here in Oklahoma alot, some folks won't go into the woods without a firearm.

[kersley]

Cool Pic and Thread, But someone will debunk it here I'm sure in seconds flat.

I can tell you exactly who that will be, but let me wait and see if i'm right....

[kersley]

Sorry guys and girls, i just dont buy it, the pics are good but something as elusive as big foot or some creature that has been here longer then us ( maybe ) is surely not going to give it self away as easily as that????

Maybe it's time for revealing whats been hidden from us? just as many are waiting for mass landing this year?
These are exciting times. everyday i wake up with excitement, Don't ask me why, I just feel something big is about to happen that will change our lives forever....
fake or not, I can see the sadness and sorrow in those eyes.
be skeptical but don't close your mind..

[jagman]

I don't know if this creature exists? But even mainstream science tells us that Gigantopithecus existed up until a few hundred thousand years ago.
http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1524370507767&id=92e218bc97cd3444c5ac92daf2eb5c26
To me. Its not hard to imagine that these Creatures exist.

[HORIZONS]

I have seen a very strange and unusual creature up close before that I did not know what it was. It looked right at me, and we stared into each others eyes, and then it started to slowly walk away. I started to follow it - I was on a mower - until it jumped the fence and disappeared into the woods. No one around here believed me - but my wife saw it a week later - but we have never seen it again. It looked kind of like a Moose - but not - and there are no Moose around these parts. I have searched the net for what it was, but have found nothing like it. It was strange, yet very sublime - I'll never forget it.

[Rex]

Todd Standing continues to deliver questionable goods. He always comes off as if he's got all the video and photographic proof. Trust me, Lloyd Pye wants nothing to do with this guy. Or hop on over to http://cryptomundo.com and ask Loren Coleman or Craig Woolheater about the Sylvanic project.

"Bigfeet" live where we don't, in the millions of unchartered acres of dense forest and places where puny humans can barely penetrate into (sure we've mapped the earth, but we've barely walked it). It's no surprise that the bulk of sightings come from people that are near the fringe areas. They are masters of their environment, and IMHO the true bipeds of the earth, not like us created by genetic manipulation. Most are smart enough to know to stay away from us, and the few that do come out are usually in control of the encounter.

Unless we humans can give them the respect and space they deserve, I'd actually prefer they remain unconfirmed. I would hate to see one caught, taken from their kind and caged, or killed. Which, if you believe some of the stories, may have happened a few times already.

[modwiz]

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/cimages/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/coast-to-coast/repository/photos/bigfoot-in-the-canadian-rockies/629326-1-eng-US/Bigfoot-in-the-Canadian-Rockies_photo_medium.jpg
Bigfoot in the Canadian Rockies
Taken spring 2011 by Todd Standing at his Sylvanic research site, in the Canadian Rockies.

There is something about this photo that feels real. The liplessness is very much an ape characteristic. The nose seems correct as well. Photos below posted by Toad show both fuller lips and a higher nose bridge. Variance within species could occur but all apes have thin lips without exception. The eyes of this one seem to hold the deepest authenticity.

Lastly, if these cousins of ours have been with us all along, one can also see how a wolfman legend could start. If this photo is a hoax, the face hair was inspired by Lon Chaney's make-up artist.

[Mysticknowflake]

Thanks!~ For posting. I had a friend in school who lived her early years in Virginia, She told me that when she was a child a Big Foot like creature ran across the road in front of their car and almost made her father loose control of the car. I have not seen Big Foot, but on a drive up from Tennessee to Pennsylvania in the West Virgina mountains, just south of the PA line. I saw fresh footprints in the snow going up an embankment.

[HORIZONS]

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/cimages/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/coast-to-coast/repository/photos/bigfoot-in-the-canadian-rockies/629326-1-eng-US/Bigfoot-in-the-Canadian-Rockies_photo_medium.jpg
Bigfoot in the Canadian Rockies
Taken spring 2011 by Todd Standing at his Sylvanic research site, in the Canadian Rockies.

There is something about this photo that feels real. The liplessness is very much an ape characteristic. The nose seems correct as well. Photos below posted by Toad show both fuller lips and a higher nose bridge. Variance within species could occur but all apes have thin lips without exception. The eyes of this one seem to hold the deepest authenticity.

Lastly, if these cousins of ours have been with us all along, one can also see how a wolfman legend could start. If this photo is a hoax, the face hair was inspired by Lon Chaney's make-up artist.

I thought the same things - and now that you mention it - I can see the WOLFMAN idea in this - stranger things have happened.

[modwiz]

Cool Pic and Thread, But someone will debunk it here I'm sure in seconds flat.

Debunkers are like opinions, which are like......nevermind.

[jagman]

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/cimages/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/coast-to-coast/repository/photos/bigfoot-in-the-canadian-rockies/629326-1-eng-US/Bigfoot-in-the-Canadian-Rockies_photo_medium.jpg
Bigfoot in the Canadian Rockies
Taken spring 2011 by Todd Standing at his Sylvanic research site, in the Canadian Rockies.

There is something about this photo that feels real. The liplessness is very much an ape characteristic. The nose seems correct as well. Photos below posted by Toad show both fuller lips and a higher nose bridge. Variance within species could occur but all apes have thin lips without exception. The eyes of this one seem to hold the deepest authenticity.

Lastly, if these cousins of ours have been with us all along, one can also see how a wolfman legend could start. If this photo is a hoax, the face hair was inspired by Lon Chaney's make-up artist.

I thought the same things - and now that you mention it - I can see the WOLFMAN idea in this - stranger things have happened.

I totally agree with both of you! This picture feels real to me.The creatures eyes
are so piercing! Anyway if its a hoax its a damn good one.

[SomaSmith]

All I can say is, I want to believe this is real!

I have been fascinated by bigfoot since I was a child! And spending a lot of time in remote untamed areas has brought me a couple of experiences that prove to me personally that they do exist.

[Mike]

Regardless if I think its possible that bigfoot may exist, I personally think this is a good hoax. If you look at a few of his photos they all seem relatively the same, headshots, good resolution but with the face somewhat out of focus;

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/cimages/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/coast-to-coast/repository/photos/bigfoot-face/539722-1-eng-US/Bigfoot-Face_photo_medium.jpg
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/uploadsgallery/1285443952/med_gallery_18256_7_95778.jpg
http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/uploads/recent-todd-standing-bigfoot-face.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3ZolnR5MmlA/TWh9-JUHHPI/AAAAAAAABWw/K0Kty_Rtzjs/s1600/Standing%2BBigfoot%2BFace.jpg
this just doesnt look genuine to me, and wouldn't be hard to create such a hoax, game trail camera wouldn't take such a pristine photo aimed specifically at the face, maybe once by luck but three times? I highly doubt it. The skeptic in me says it is too good to be true.

I would agree; they are most likely puppet heads...


if Bigfoot doesn't look like that 1rst picture, it should;)

something very ancient and mysterious about it. a wonderful hoax, if that's the case.

[Ammit]

I would never want to debunk anything as I like to keep an open mind, but, my concern is if it were a real picture then sadly the bigfoot is closer to being a participant in a local zoo then I would wish.

The picture #42 is amazing, shows real depth of character and what I would class as a full life face, the others seem more like puppets as the faces seem lifeless.

I agree that the werewolf legends could have come from such a creature as many legends I think follow such experiences. I would dearly love to see the truth come out about the bigfoot and other creatures but would rather they remained hidden from us and safe from our exploitation.

Ammit

[Simonm]

You really need to read Lloyd Pye's book / see the video. These creatures are everywhere and are NOT genetic throwbacks, they are what was here before WE were genetically split from them. Pye / sitchin provide hypotheses to these theories that the Annunaki required a creature to work for them but the creatures that were here were to underdeveloped to follow orders, so they genetically split us from them with the Annunaki DNA. Allegedly.

[TelosianEmbrace]

Just a few thoughts..
*I have seen a drawing by a witness who said that a bigfoot kept pace with him for quite some time, and his drawing looks almost exactly like the pic.

*The father of an old school mate of mine witnessed a yowie, Australia's version of bigfoot.

*I have just read the book 'The Long Walk' by Slavomir Rawicz, and in it he describes their sighting of two yetis in the Himalayas at the time of the Second World War.

*The hair stands up on the back of my neck when I listen to the vocalisations, purportedly of Bigfoot, here- www.bigfootsounds.com

Countries all around the world have their versions of big, hairy man-apes.

[toad]

I would never want to debunk anything as I like to keep an open mind, but, my concern is if it were a real picture then sadly the bigfoot is closer to being a participant in a local zoo then I would wish.

The picture #42 is amazing, shows real depth of character and what I would class as a full life face, the others seem more like puppets as the faces seem lifeless.

I agree that the werewolf legends could have come from such a creature as many legends I think follow such experiences. I would dearly love to see the truth come out about the bigfoot and other creatures but would rather they remained hidden from us and safe from our exploitation.

Ammit

Do not be scared to be skeptical. We live in a time where creating hoaxes is just way too easy, and its sad really, everyone wants their 15minutes. It makes it far more difficult for the ones looking for the truth, as the world becomes increasingly cluttered with noise. Just the nature of these photos to me screams hoax, as they are all relatively the same. This creature has eluded capture, has eluded being filmed well, has eluded most things, yet this guy somehow has managed to capture this creature a number of times with immaculate precision.

[Kristin]

Well, Here's Jane Goodall's assessment of the situation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NmCmfdFAhQ

and David Attenborough:

https://whatsallthisthen.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/sir-david-attenborough-and-dr-jane-goodall-on-bigfoot/

From the Heart,
Wormhole

[Cidersomerset]

Great clips Wormhole....It reminded me of Actor Brian Blessed who has been to the himalayas and is one of the oldest, if not oldest westerner
to climb Mt Everest and go to the north pole....He is convinced they exist and wanted at one time to go on a expedition with TV crew to try and
find out....I think by all the tales of the indiginous people who say they have seen & heard them,there must be some truth to it .....

http://photo.goodreads.com/books/1318648517l/6067278.jpg

http://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/moreyeti.htm

I have heard him interviewed several times in the media and he is sure they exist
but cannot find any clips on the net...

http://twitpic.com/1mw2vk

if he met one ,they might think him a lost relative as he has a resemblance..LOL ..
I'm glad they did not do it for although it would be exciting to know, It may be
disasterous for them.......


great thread Jagman....Steve

[Cidersomerset]

Heres a fun Article....The Yetti Finger...Smuggled out of China by

Jimmy Stewarts Wife.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-16320166

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/27/article-2078875-0F41A08400000578-263_634x359.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2078875/The-Yeti-severed-finger-Nepal-movie-star-James-Stewart.html

[jagman]

I watched Lloyd Pye's Video yesterday ( Everything you think you know about human origins is wrong) and he does make quite a convincing
argument about these creatures. I do have a question . Mr. Pye's work is tied to Zak Sitchin work. I thought Sitchin work was called into
question a few years ago. To be specific His translations of the Ancient Sumerians text. Can someone help me out here?

[Cidersomerset]

Yes theres a chap who has done the rounds who I will think of in a minute who says Sitchin misinterpreted the cylinder seals...

Michael S Hieser....He says Sitchin cannot really read the ancient texts....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlrLxixHVYM&feature=related

Although I really like Lloyd Pye's work....

Its like the argument we were having about Billy Meier, most of us cannot check
the facts, we go on trust and gut feeling and wether it reasonates with you....

[Bill Ryan]

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The following is the the most compelling and (in my view) important Bigfoot/ Sasquatch report I've ever seen.

From http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2011/07/bigfoot-injured-by-forest-fire-was.html (http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2011/07/bigfoot-injured-by-forest-fire-was.html):

Bigfoot Recovered : injured in Forest Fire

On August 6, 1999, Battle Mountain, Nevada, exploded into several simultaneous range fires in what would be known as the Battle Mountain Complex Fire. A Bigfoot was hurt in the fire according to an anonymous government employee, who alerted the Bigfoot Field Research Organization (BFRO). The story was later dismissed but acclaimed author and science teacher Thom Powell believe it really happened and that the whole story was an elaborate cover-up.

In a letter to BFRO dated "7 August 1999, Battle Mountain, Nevada" the anonymous government employee, states:

"I observed an animal wounded by fire moving on all fours not like a bear. More like ape. Fire fighters captured animal, contacted local vet and medical doctor. U.S. Department of Fish and Wildlife, Department of Interior, and Bureau of Land Management on the scene.

Animal tranquilized and moved to unknown location. Those at scene told not to talk about what they saw.

Animal approximately 7.5 feet long/tall, human like arms and legs, face not like man or ape but mixed between. Genitalia: male, uncircumcised and human-like. Hair covering most of body except chest, chest has hair but sparse, hands with sparse hair, palms bare, with five digits with human opposition of thumb and 5th digit.

Multiple burns

Speech - attempted to communicate with care-givers once it realized they were attempting to care for it. Multiple burns on hands, feet, legs and body; some 2nd and 3rd degree burns, using "rule of nines" approximately 45 per cent of body with burns.

Doctor and Vet working together providing care and moved it to unknown location locally. This notice given in violation of orders given by BLM, DOI and DF&W. Witnesses numbered in the area of 30-25. Word is out in the government agencies, and among the firefighters, since an M.D. was called out. Many thought a firefighter was injured.

Please note that I am a government employee of one of the listed agencies fighting brush fire in wilderness area of Nevada (large scale fire approximately 70,000 acres burned) and under orders not to disclose information.

Protected area

I believe a cover up is in the making, people need ro know, the animal needs to be kept alive and studied and released in protected area".

The BFRO didn't know what to believe and on top of that they had been unable to verify that there had been a fire in the Battle Mountain area. Thom Powell: "Late Monday (August 9) I was finally able to determine from Forest Service sources that there was most certainly a large range fire in this area of Nevada".

The Battle Mountain Complex Fire had extended to 180,000 acres by Monday and had 610 personnel fighting it at that time.

Nothing else was heard from their witness despite e-mail attempts to reach him. Then, some ten days after the initial report, the witness contacted their BFRO investigator by phone. Here is parts of the report that the investigator prepared after speaking with the witness:

Strict anonymity

"Much to my surprise, tonight at about 9 PM the reporting party of the Battle Mountain incident called me. I talked with the gentleman for about 70 minutes. Although he is maintaining strict anonymity, I was able to put together a bit of a profile of the individual.

This fellow, whom I will give the pseudonym 'Marty', is a male, full-time worker for a federal agency. Currently he is involved in the joint fire fighting efforts in Nevada. He has extensive EMT training and experience.

He says that until this incident he had "seen it all" in fire fighting, and these days he stays mostly in the truck manning the radio. He is friendly, but not effusive. He is intelligent, likable, and fairly observant, but he isn't outstandingly articulate. He is a matter-of-fact, low-key, seen-it-all kind of character.

Very tired

His regular duties may be in personnel, as he mentioned that tomorrow he would be seeing the M.D. involved in this incident about other matters regarding firefighting crews. It was abvious during our conversation that he was very tired. Our talk ended with 'Marty' saying he had to get to bed to get some rest.

Approximately 20 people were in the immediate vicinity of the incident. All were debriefed and informed in no uncertain terms that this incident was not to be discussed. There has not been a word about the incident at the BLM fire HQ.

He is very concerned about keeping his job, and says he would not look forward to taking a lie detector test. He created an e-mail address exclusively for reporting this incident.

Absolute privacy

Although I had originally encouraged him to call me collect this lengthy call was on him so he could maintain absolute privacy. He is reporting the incident because he belives the information should get out. We agreed in any future communication to use the term "patient" to describe the Sasquatch. I'll use it here.

The incident happened in the early afternoon. About 20 fire fighters were directly involved. The injured patient apparently wandered within sight of the fire crew, and was then surrounded.

The patient "seemed to know that he was captured", because he soon gave up. Marty mentioned this several times - "he just gave up". The patient sat down on his buttocks, giving no evidence of a will to resist. "Like a dog gives up, and then you can do anything with it".

Singed hair

The patient was laid out on the ground at first. His injuries were rather serious, including burns to the hands, feet, legs, and trunk, as well as much singed hair.

It didn't take long for medical services to get to the scene. The attending medical team included the regular M.D. for the fire crews, a vet that Marty didn't recognize, and one or more paramedics.

The vet was taken aback at working on a creature so human-like, and he is reported to have allowed the physician to do most of the work. At some point Demerol and morphine were administered.

The patient was placed on a spine board, which was too small. He was then placed on a regular ambulance stretcher. The sides were left down because part of the body hung over too far. The feet hung off the end.

Bowel sounds

A cut-down was performed to obtain an intravenous line, and fluids were administered. During the treatment of his wounds and the efforts at life support, the patient communicated with moans, groans and grumbling. Bowel sounds were heard by Marty, who was as close as three feet from the patient.

No language-like vocalizations were heard. The patient responded to touch: specifically patting and stroking to calm him ("You're not going to find an ape or a monkey responding the same way").

Two or three times Marty mentioned that the patient was especially responsive to a young Native American woman who started ministering to him right from the very beginning.

The patient was removed from the scene in the back of a utility truck, not in an ambulance. Marty said an ambulance would have alerted townsfolk and possibly news reporters, thinking that a fire fighter had been injured. No one would follow a nondescript van. The total time from initial sighting to extraction was estimated at three hours.

Blood

There was no urination, defecation, or vomit at the scene. The patient did not eat anything during that time. Serum and blood were leaking from the burned areas of the body.

The area of the arm on which the cut-down was performed was shaved. The hair probably fell to the ground. There was significant blood from the cut-down site and from the subsequent insertion of a venous line, and some of that blood dripped to the ground.

No one knows where the patient was taken. No video cameras were on the scene to film any aspect of the incident. The fire commander was present. He had a camera, and he did record what he saw.

The patient is described as being about seven feet tall - "Give or take a few inches". Marty does not give a weight estimate.

Equine odor

Most of the body is covered by brownish hair about two inches in length; no gray hairs are evident. There are no mats noted on the coat. There is an odor about the patient. It is not an especially obnoxious odor. Marty calls it a "natural" odor, but he had a hard time describing it. He said it is similar to a strong equine odor.

The head is not "sloped", the forehead is "heavy boned", the lips large, but human-like, the ears human-like and tight to the head, with the ear lobe attached, not dangling.

The patient is "strong jawed". He could not remember the color of the eyes, but thought they might be brown. The head is about two times the size of a human head. There is hair on the face, but not on the palms or soles of the feet.

Great bulk

There is great bulk to the patient, but there is no fat. He said hos observations of the form of the body did not match with "that film with the one running into the woods", and he called that film a probable hoax.

The hands are about 1.5 times a human hand; five fingers with opposable thumb. The fingernails are thicker and heavier, and one was chipped. The feet are large; five ties on each foot; no evidence of fractures, injuries, arthritis, or deformation.

The sexual features are those of an uncircumcised male, matching the human anatomy. Marty made the comment several times that these are not monkey or ape features. He felt he was in the presence of a very human creature.

Access to the area

I have asked him to return to the scene and search for the hair from the shaved arm, or even the blood that dripped on the ground. He said he has access to the area, but probably won't be able to return until after the fires are controlled".

In response to Doug's plea that someone return to the site and search for blood and hair evidence, Marty reported back to him on 26 September: "Dozer has torn up the area. Nothing left. Word is there is still life. Location unknown. Believe within couple hundred miles. Later, Marty".

Thom Powell: "Doug concluded that the dozer work seemed a bit too convenient and was likely a cover story concocted by Marty to explain away his inability to recover any physical evidence. Doug strongly suspected that the whole matter was a hoax on this basis and that is where the situation pretty much ended".

Precise detail

But Thom Powell couldn't leave the case that easily and further on continues: "It is my feeling that this person (Marty) was not lying, and this set of described events really happened. There is simply too much precise detail and a complete absence of error or contradiction".

The report was dismissed as a probable hoax and never posted for public inspection at the BFRO website, where it might have been seen by someone else who was present at the time and who might have contacted BFRO to confirm or deny the account.

Three years after the event, Thom Powell dug up the old files on the Battle Mountain matter and decided to try and send Marty an e-mail message and see what happened. Less than twenty four hours later, he was surprised to receive this reply:

Not disclosed

"Thom, I had almost forgotten about the event until now. Have not spoken due to the classification that was put on it. The patient was taken to a university or some hospital that was not disclosed. As for verification, well other than my contact with you, I know of no one other than those there on the scene. An affidavit was signed under Department of Interior, and US Forest Service as:

1. Confidential under penalty of felony arrest and jail time.

2. Immediate loss of Government Service rank, loss of retirement, and benefits.

Several meetings were held in reference to "him". I do respect his rights of life and will always be a believer of their existence beyond any shadow of a doubt as seen with my own eyes, smelled with my own nose and heard with my own ears.

Native man

His image is still visible as it was then. No monster, no animal but a linage of native man. His trust in us to take care of him and recognize him that harm was not meant when contact was made, knowing that care would be given to him... I am sure that Department of Interior knows where he may have been released.

What more can I say? Specifics, features, anatomy? Well, stand in front of the mirror and think of man's evolution".

Thom Powell: "I am left with two inescapable conclusions: First, Bigfoots do exist and second, the government does mot want us to know it. The big question that remains in my mind is: Why? I can think of six possible reasons why secrecy might be imposed".

***

WHY THE BIG SECRETS? Is it that the American Government believes that the people of North America are so unstable that they could not deal with knowledge that the Sasquatch really exists ?

1) GOVERNMENT PATERNALISM

It is felt by decision makers in government agencies that the public is somehow not ready to accept the stunning fact that Bigfoot-style creatures exist and at least one species of primates is comfortably ensconced in the forests of North America.

Perhaps the justification for this arrogant position is derived from the Christian paradigm that humans are the sole heirs to the planet. The acknowledgement of another species so close to our own, even superior in terms of some sensory capabilities would destabilize the Christian paradigm that currently dominates western religious thought.

2) KEEP MYSTERIES CLASSIFIED

Perhaps the government entities that we trust as protectors are really just as baffled by this matter as anyone. As with the UFO phenomenon the knee-jerk reaction to government, when confronted with a genuine and profund mystery, is to classify the entire matter as a secret.

This avoids the uncomfortable alternative of having to stand up and acknowledge that the people we pay to understand threats and protect us from them have no real idea what is going on in this particular realm.

There is an axiom that may exist within government that boils down to: If we don't understand something, keep it a secret. That way no one will ever ask us to explain it.

3) LOVE OF SECRETS

People feel mire important when they have secrets that must be kept. Government agency personnel need to feel their job is important and having important secrets that must be kept serves to validate their work.

Every branch of government seems to have some kind of secret that must be protected and it is no surprise to me that the land management agencies want a secret also.

Maybe some day they will even be called to Washington to brief the President or members of Congress on the big, important secret that the public is not prepared to know. What fun.

4) THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ARGUMENT

If Bigfoots were officially acknowledged, it wouldn't be long before an injunction was issued and most timber removal from federal land was halted. It is held that environmentalists will immediately seize upon the idea, spotted owl-style.

They will then find a sympathetic federal judge who would issue an injunction that stops all logging and mining on national forests and rangelands which qualify as Sasquatch habitat.

While it is probably true that preservationists would try to get the Sasquatch declared as the ultimate endangered species, there is one big, but not so obvious problem with this whole line of thinking: Sasquatches are in no way endangered.

They may be rare, but they are not endangered. On their own, they keep their numbers down, though I also suspect that most estimates of their numbers are too low.

It is possible that recent increase in deer populations have also precipitated an increase in Bigfoot populations. They do eat deer and that is a good thing because there are not enough other natural predators to keep deer herds in check. Deer populations have exploded lately and we should hope that there are Sasquatches in this world or we are soon to be absolutely overrun with deer.

Bigfoots do not seem to require virgin, old growth forests. All they seem to require is a food source and a place where they can be left alone.

Short of clearing all of the forests away at once, I for one would strenuously argue that Bigfoots are in no way endangered by forest policy and there is virtually nothing we could do to reduce their numbers, even if we set about to do so.

The Wilderness Act of 1964 and subsequent amendments to it have insured the fact that Sasquatches will always have safe haven.

5) NATIONAL DEFENSE

As previously stated, we will only be able to understand why the public is being denied available information about Sasquatches when we know more about the creatures and their capabilities. Since that information will not come from government sources, we are going to have to find out ourselves.

We already have a good deal of information to suggest that all of the senses of these creatures are more acute than our own. Not only is their sight, hearing, and smell more acute than our own, but they quite likely possess other sensory capabilities that we absolutely lack. They can project a rancid smell much like a skunk and the smell is so overpowering as to nearly incapacitate a person.

This capability alone suggests a tactical military value in better understanding the Sasquatch. I'm told that the military is already researching tactical use of overpowering but non-toxic smells.

Other possibilities relating to national defense and tactical military value may not be as far-fetched as they first seem. Infrasound has already been discussed as a concept with tactical military value.

The fact that Sasquatches possess infrasound capabilities seems likely. When it comes to mental capabilities that we humans do not have, it probably does not end there.

Every researcher I know of who has been successful in putting themselves near a Sasquatch has mentioned a sixth sense that the creature seem to possess. I have tried to quantify this matter to the best of my ability, but, to attempt to quantify such a speculative matter is futile at present.

6) GENETIC RESEARCH

The final possibility centers on the fact that Sasquatches may be human ancestors of such a close lineage that their genetic makeup offers the most intriguing possibilities for genetic research and cross breeding that have ever been considered.

Sasquatches may be the enduring descendants of the Homo erectus lineage that is generally considered to be extinct. Neanderthal man, Homo Neandertalensis by way of Homo Heidelbergensis, is another distinct possibility.

If either or both of these human ancestors endures today in the manifestation we call Bigfoot, then the possibilities for interbreeding and other genetic experiments with humans become either intriguing or alarming, depending on which side of the ethical question one stands.

Thom Powells final words are this bleak conclusion: "How tragic, yet how predictable it is that the government denies the public access to knowledge of a living human relative, an anthropological bombshell, and one of the planet's most remarkable beings".


FOOTNOTE: Do YOU know anything about The Mountain Complex Fire of August 6, 1999, in Nevada, USA and the capture of the Bigfoot creature mentioned in this feature? Please email Jan Sundberg at GUST and we will forward your information to Thom Powell.

Source: "The Locals: A Contemporary Investigation of the Bigfoot/Sasquatch Phenomenon" by Thom Powell, Hancock House Publishers USA 2003, ISBN 0-88839-552-3; Chapter 11 "Big Brother", pages 217 to 228, and pages 235 to 239. Bigfoot illustration: RobRoy Menzies. Feature: Jan Sundberg, GUST © 2004.

[13th Warrior]

Just as a point of reference, how much have you studied this subject?

Have you spend any time on BFRO's website?

What are your thoughts on the Patterson/Gimlin film; that the sited article suggests is a hoax?


The following is the the most compelling and (in my view) important Bigfoot/ Sasquatch report I've ever seen.

[Simonm]

The Giant Panda was know about in China for millenia, yet no one had seen them for nearly as long, but the Chinese believed in them. Round about the turn of the last century one was seen and shot. As a consequence they were nealry hunted into extinction. The ceolocanth was thought to have died out 60 odd million years ago. We knew of their skeletons / fossil records, but not one had been recorded alive in living history. That was until one turned up a fishermans net in the indian ocean in the 30's

The hominids or sasquatch and it's varrying forms live on every continent, but even though the earth has been mapped approx only 60% has actually been surveyed. Im certainly not arrogant enough to deny their existence, but could you imagine what would happen if proof positive were established. Poor buggers would be hunted to near extinction.

Their there, lets just leave them alone.

[DoubleHelix]

Could a combined belief existing in our collective consciousness manifest such creatures?

Apparitions anyone?

[J0urney]

The Giant Panda was know about in China for millenia, yet no one had seen them for nearly as long, but the Chinese believed in them. Round about the turn of the last century one was seen and shot. As a consequence they were nealry hunted into extinction. The ceolocanth was thought to have died out 60 odd million years ago. We knew of their skeletons / fossil records, but not one had been recorded alive in living history. That was until one turned up a fishermans net in the indian ocean in the 30's

The hominids or sasquatch and it's varrying forms live on every continent, but even though the earth has been mapped approx only 60% has actually been surveyed. Im certainly not arrogant enough to deny their existence, but could you imagine what would happen if proof positive were established. Poor buggers would be hunted to near extinction.

Their there, lets just leave them alone.

I completely agree. If we were to find them we would only destroy them. The human race can be vicious. Yes, I wanted a better look at the one I saw. But no, I would not want them legitimately found.

[Aurelius]

fyi ...

I remember Ed Dames being asked about Bigfoot once in an interview .. he said he had RV'd the phenomena and they were a species from another planet and used "sound" somehow to travel (inter-dimensionally?)

[sunnyrap]

This is a great site and group on Bigfoot et al: http://www.texasbigfoot.com/ They've got a map of sightings with writeups on each. Bigfoot fans will enjoy... They welcome interested visitors to their yearly meetup.

[markpierre]

Here are a couple of primo research/forum sites you guys might enjoy. You can go in there and entertain yourselves for a few weeks or months or if you're like me, the next 40 years.

I thought I'd left the big guy behind when I migrated to Australia, but nope. He's always one step or two ahead of me.

Nothing chills me nicer than a new report, and somewhere nearby. Or someone I meet who knows something.....

http://www.bfro.net/

http://www.yowiehunters.com/

Don't buy a lot of stock in opinions of people who haven't seen one. Consider opinions of people who have. They're not hard to find, in fact find one and talk to him or her.
It's very much like having your own experience.
Have some scary fun!

[etm567]

Jagman, Thanks for posting..
This is amazing stuff. I been sitting here for the last 20 minutes wondering how could this be? I checked out Todd's site, i'm just speechless...
They look just like us but hairy, what do they eat? how many of them are they? what about a hybrid human? i NEED ANSWERS.....
There are descriptions of Bigfoot in the Law of One books. Ra says they are souls from either Mars or Mardek, I think Mardek, that blew up in our solar system -- was destroyed by atomic war. It's the wee hours and I can't sleep, I don't want to get all the info right now, but I will tomorrow. But what I remember is he said that these souls were tangled up in a "knot of fear" or a "tangle of fear" because of the atomic explosions or the breakup of their planet and they had to be tended to for a long time before they could get them to untangle. And they brought them here. They have some karma to work out because of blowing up their planet? Maybe. I need to go look it up.

[MorningSong]

I found this recent article on the Smithsonian site.... interesting coincidence? To hush up the new interest in Bigfoot?

I, personally, appreciate the comments below the article from folks who don't buy the Smithsonian's claim that BF is extinct.


January 9, 2012
Did Bigfoot Really Exist? How Gigantopithecus Became Extinct

http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/hominids/2012/01/did-bigfoot-really-exist-how-gigantopithecus-became-extinct/

[Turcurulin]

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[Frankie]

Hi,

That's a great photograph!

Researching all that is alternative Bigfoot have been part of that. Like the truth of everything else we piece it together through the years. What I've read is that there are 3 distinct groups located around the globe. A very few people have spent time with them and they are telepathic. They eat meat but not humans thankfully. We're the danger to them.

Thank you for sharing.

Thanks so much again.

[DNA]

According to the research of David Paulides and the meticulous research done in his book the hoopa project, Bigfoot has the face of a classic native american, only hairier. This picture backs that up. Bigfoot is not an ape,Bigfoot is a human being.

[bruno dante]

I always expected Bigfoot's face to demonstrate intelligence. This pic does him justice. You get the feeling that if it isn't the way Bigfoot really looks, it should be.

[Selkie]

I am fascinated by the subject of Bigfoot. And yes, that photo is great, but I think its a fake.

p.s. I recommend David Paulides work. I have all four of his Missing 411 books. Amazing stuff.

Btw, what will tell whether Bigfoot is human or some sort of ape is the presence or absence of a baculum. Humans don't have them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baculum

p.s. gotta get The Hoopa Project!

[DNA]

I am fascinated by the subject of Bigfoot. And yes, that photo is great, but I think its a fake.

p.s. I recommend David Paulides work. I have all four of his Missing 411 books. Amazing stuff.

Btw, what will tell whether Bigfoot is human or some sort of ape is the presence or absence of a baculum. Humans don't have them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baculum

p.s. gotta get The Hoopa Project!

Hi Silkie.
I've read the missing 411 books as well.
This last book was a tad different in the criteria used to include cases, but as far as the first three books were concerned, I felt a majority of the cases seemed to bee the result of Bigfoot.
What were your thoughts on this?

[bruno dante]

I think there is an interconnectivity that often goes unoticed with this type of phenomena. For example, almost all cryptids give off a strong sulfery smell when appearing to humans. The significance of this becomes clear when one reads of incidents involving alleged demons and other unexplainable phenomena giving off this same sulfury scent. It can't be coincidence.

So what is it?

Not sure, but it seems cryptids and demons and monsters and all sorts of various paranormal manifestations share this any many other characteristics, which suggests to me a similar or common source. Also, these type of phenomena often appear in ufo hot spots. It's happened with such frequency that it simply cannot be ignored.

[Selkie]

I am fascinated by the subject of Bigfoot. And yes, that photo is great, but I think its a fake.

p.s. I recommend David Paulides work. I have all four of his Missing 411 books. Amazing stuff.

Btw, what will tell whether Bigfoot is human or some sort of ape is the presence or absence of a baculum. Humans don't have them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baculum

p.s. gotta get The Hoopa Project!

Hi Silkie.
I've read the missing 411 books as well.
This last book was a tad different in the criteria used to include cases, but as far as the first three books were concerned, I felt a majority of the cases seemed to bee the result of Bigfoot.
What were your thoughts on this?

Yes, I agree with you about the first three books. In the last book The Devil's in the Details, Paulides starts getting into other things, or looking at other ways to explain all of the evidence. But I think that is because he is an honest researcher, and he is going where the evidence takes him. It does seem like UFO (although not necessarily alien) activity accompanies Bigfoot activity much of the time. John Keel noted the same thing in Our Haunted Planet and The Mothman Prophecies. Fascinating subject!

[DNA]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72540-Bigfoot-Atlantis-and-The-Bohemian-Grove


I am fascinated by the subject of Bigfoot. And yes, that photo is great, but I think its a fake.

p.s. I recommend David Paulides work. I have all four of his Missing 411 books. Amazing stuff.

Btw, what will tell whether Bigfoot is human or some sort of ape is the presence or absence of a baculum. Humans don't have them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baculum

p.s. gotta get The Hoopa Project!

Hi Silkie.
I've read the missing 411 books as well.
This last book was a tad different in the criteria used to include cases, but as far as the first three books were concerned, I felt a majority of the cases seemed to bee the result of Bigfoot.
What were your thoughts on this?

Yes, I agree with you about the first three books. In the last book The Devil's in the Details, Paulides starts getting into other things, or looking at other ways to explain all of the evidence. But I think that is because he is an honest researcher, and he is going where the evidence takes him. It does seem like UFO (although not necessarily alien) activity accompanies Bigfoot activity much of the time. John Keel noted the same thing in Our Haunted Planet and The Mothman Prophecies. Fascinating subject!

I rely quite a bit on the Paulides research in this thread. I think you would like it. I talk about and expand upon the UFO connection you speak of.
Annunaki,Bigfoot and the Bohemian Grove.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72540-Bigfoot-Atlantis-and-The-Bohemian-Grove

[OBwan]

The noted interspecies communicator reflects on her groundbreaking work with elephants, dolphins and Chacma baboons, and her experiences with sasquatch.

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[Selkie]

In the context of a discussion about Bigfoot, is anyone familiar with this site about Neanderthals?

http://themandus.org/

http://themandus.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Gorilla_Hand-comparison.jpg

http://themandus.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/neanderthal_hunting.jpg

http://themandus.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Neanderthal_profile.jpg

http://themandus.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/neanderthal-human-body-comparison.jpg

Now, I am not saying that I think Bigfoot is Neanderthal, but except for the height, the resemblance is remarkably similar to the descriptions of Bigfoot given by the witnesses**. I have not read the book, but I intend to soon.

** The last pic shows Neanderthal without hair, so that peeps can more easily compare his morphology to that of modern humans.

addition btw, I'm not trying to hijack the thread. I made this post in the spirit of (non-sarcastic) FYI, nothing more :) Bigfoot is a fascinating subject, and I read everything I can that might broaden my understanding of them.

[Selkie]

I think there is an interconnectivity that often goes unoticed with this type of phenomena. For example, almost all cryptids give off a strong sulfery smell when appearing to humans. The significance of this becomes clear when one reads of incidents involving alleged demons and other unexplainable phenomena giving off this same sulfury scent. It can't be coincidence.

So what is it?

Not sure, but it seems cryptids and demons and monsters and all sorts of various paranormal manifestations share this any many other characteristics, which suggests to me a similar or common source. Also, these type of phenomena often appear in ufo hot spots. It's happened with such frequency that it simply cannot be ignored.

All this is very true, but I'm not sure what to make of it except to say that humans can only sense a very small range of the electromagnetic spectrum, and that maybe these beings, whatever they are, reside some of the time in a part of the electromag spectrum that we cannot usually access, and that perhaps they can come and go from our range of the spectrum at will.

So I just keep reading everything I can that seems sensible about Bigfoot. And because Bigfoot is often accompanied by other paranormal manifestations like UFOs, I recommend Invisible Residents by Ivan T Sanderson and Hunt for the Skinwalker by Kelleher and Knapp.

p.s. the reason I think the photo is fake is because, to me, it looks like it could have been created with very good video-gaming-type software. I am wary of all photographs and videos of Bigfoot simply because they are too easy to fake. I prefer to read witness's testimony.

Btw, I love Paulides' map of the clusters of weird disappearances. Before I was born, 2 children, a brother, age about 8 and a sister, age about 12, were murdered by a person or persons unknown near a creek that ran behind the highschool of our town. They never found who did it, and it was blamed on a tramp, who was also never found. But after I started reading about Bigfoot, and their habit of using the creekbeds, I have to wonder...

Also, years ago, when my uncle was visiting my grandmother, he took a walk down by the creek that ran through her town. As he was walking along, he heard the sound of something very large, on two feet, coming through the brush. Now, my uncle is 6'4" tall, has mountaineering experience, has a Ph.D. in zoology, and has been chased by a sea elephant (and lived to tell the tale, because it nearly got him), and he does not scare easily, but when he heard that thing, whatever it was, coming through the brush along the creek, he got the heck out of there. He said that whatever it was was BIG.

[Flash]

This is very interesting these new theories about Neenderthals being in fact primate looking and exceptional hunters.

I could not believe how strong they were. They were gigantic in strenght.

I would have a tendency to abound in your path Silkie, they might as well be Bigfoot, one and the same. They also look more like what reptilians dracos would have used for their mix of human / dracos genes for example.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZbmywzGAVs

[Selkie]

This is very interesting these new theories about Neenderthals being in fact primate looking and exceptional hunters.

I could not believe how strong they were. They were gigantic in strenght.

I would have a tendency to abound in your path Silkie, they might as well be Bigfoot, one and the same. They also look more like what reptilians dracos would have used for their mix of human / dracos genes for example.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZbmywzGAVs

Cattle mutilations and Bigfoot activity go together, too, and I wonder if it is they who do it? I mean, I have read that there are never any footprints found at mutilation sites. But if Bigfoot is really as big and strong as they say, then they would be able to fling a cow a very great distance. So what I am wondering is, do the Bigfoot butcher the cattle somewhere else, take the parts that are valuable to them (valuable for whatever reason) and then fling the carcasses as far as they can throw it? In other words, I am wondering if investigators simply did not look far enough away from the carcasses for footprints. Because if a Neanderthal child could fling an modern adult human around like a ragdoll, imagine how strong a Bigfoot must be.

Btw, I am not saying that I necessarily think that Bigfoot are responsible for cattle mutilations, but since Bigfoot activity and cattle muts often coincide, I am looking for a way to explain how the cattle can get to where they are found without the perpetrators leaving footprints. I mean, maybe they are air-dropped there, like some people theorize, but I am wondering about other ways.

addition I mean, the Neanderthal were not very tall, and yet look at how huge their hands are compared to human hands!

http://themandus.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Gorilla_Hand-comparison.jpg

They are immense! And I imagine that their feet must be huge compared to ours, too. They would have to be, to support all that weight of muscle and bone!

addition I just found this. Neanderthal foot on the left, modern human foot on the right.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aWInieOQOxI/UIFx8BUMrNI/AAAAAAAAEZk/qcjSFbkN0aU/s640/NeanderthalFootNplusM.png

http://www.thesubversivearchaeologist.com/2012_10_01_archive.html

[Selkie]

Then there is this idea

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/esp_ciencia_life84.htm

Which leads me to wonder if perhaps Bigfoot is us, but left over from the turn of the last Kalpa. If so, could they be on a different time-line then we are, somehow? Don't know. Just a thought. Two thoughts, actually.

addition Then there's this, which is tons of fun.

http://images.tanyabonakdargallery.com/www_tanyabonakdargallery_com/TBG12067_Santa_Claus_Family_Tree1.jpg

[Timreh]

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/cimages/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/coast-to-coast/repository/photos/bigfoot-in-the-canadian-rockies/629326-1-eng-US/Bigfoot-in-the-Canadian-Rockies_photo_medium.jpg
Bigfoot in the Canadian Rockies
Taken spring 2011 by Todd Standing at his Sylvanic research site, in the Canadian Rockies.

Great picture, assuming it is legitimate I am curious about the facial hair length/growth (do they cut/trim their hair?), what age might this individual be? He looks presumably male?

[mojo]

Other BF researchers including Les Straud discredited that photo.

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[Tyy1907]

There's so much bad mouthing and in fighting in the bigfoot community it's truly sickening.