A Portal in Fatima, Portugal? Mary's energy ?

[MariaDine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdGLtInHMxI

[MariaDine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g4IwOW9ip0

[MariaDine]

THE TRANSLATION OF THE 3 SECRET- (AMONG OTHER THINGS 3 DAYS OF DARNESS AND A HUGE EARTHQUAKE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0939qRK1ns

[MariaDine]

I do not agree with some of the text . It seems that it was been added to the original message.
The message is concise and brief, the rest of text is all about »repent or die». It doesn´t sound right.
But that is only my opinion . :)

namaste

[Tuza]

I have heard about the three days of darkness for decades now and I wouldn't be surprised with the way things are going that it doesnt come sooner rather than later. Time for more light workers to get us all over the pass mark. I know you can all do it. For the littlies.

[Caren]

Hello Tuza, pardon me for asking, but what do you mean by "the littlies"? Thanks for this,
caren

[Tuza]

The little children, toddlers, babies.

[MiguelQ]

Hum im Portuguese, and fatima and the mary was very known here, Lucia i mean...
she was from here.
And from what i read of the script that she wrote on the message with the 3rd secret that couldnt be revealved until the time has come..
its that the pope got it.

And he did not said .. but i read somewhere(of course it could be fake..) but talks about a portal that will open on the skies, and fire will be shout from the angel swords..
Also there was men in white, collecting blood :s from the MOOn? and i think they "were" cloning the blood samples to retrieve the dead humans with no fault , that dead in vain, in the process..

Of course what she saw, she had no concepts to understand everything.. so thats why she does not interpret it in the right way, but its about 2012. Now i dont know if going to happen, but everything she predicted did happen, and she always wanted public to see, so that everyone could judge by their own eyes.

Besides what is saying on that movie.
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MariaDine gostaria de conversar mais contigo já que somos portugueses.. hehe. bj

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[MariaDine]

Olá Miguel ! :)

Fixe também estares aqui....espero q sejas do Benfica ...eheheheh!!!! :)
The portals in Portugal are another story...also the etheric city above de village of Valinhos.

Must dig for that information later , in my pile of papers.

Talk to you lsoon
Love
MD

[kriya]

Thanks, Maria!!

I know the 3rd secret of Fatima hasn't been revealed in its entirety. But having listened the coast to coast interview of a Catholic priest (not sure if you posted it or not) he does say it has something to do with an antichrist being at the head of the Catholic church. I think perhaps the third secret reveals the destruction of the church.

Watcha think?

Love,

Kriya

[MiguelQ]

destruction .. well perhaps. the church was a little bit wrong on the sources of who they are

[kriya]

destruction .. well perhaps. the church was a little bit wrong on the sources of who they are

Hello Miguel,

Could explain what you mean by "the church was a little bit wrong on the sources of who they are".

Love,

Kriya

[Deega]

I do not agree with some of the text . It seems that it was been added to the original message.
The message is concise and brief, the rest of text is all about »repent or die». It doesn´t sound right.
But that is only my opinion . :)

namaste

Hi MariaDine,

Thank you very much for your Tread and the video on Fatima! Very Interesting!

What I don’t understand is the “punishment” intended on people who don’t “kneel and ask forgiveness”…

I thought I had a loving God, a caring God, a forgiving one, and I’m in front of a punisher…!, I think there is a lot of things i don't understand here…?

Am I in front of church (Marie part of it) control…?, am I in front of a machination…?, I don’t know, I feel that I am caught up in a scenario of “fear”. I know that fear is the opposite of love!

Anyway, if it serves the purposes of the church and followers, I don't feel I have sufficient wisdom, ponderation, balance to qualify this event!

All my blessings.

Deega

[MiguelQ]

Hello Miguel,

Could explain what you mean by "the church was a little bit wrong on the sources of who they are".

Love,

Kriya

I wwanted to say: perhaps the church believes in a GOD that is not what they though it might be... ALIEN you now.. and they almos pass the image as humans .. but perpahs they are the nordics... so church does not now right now the truth i (THINK)... its all so mixed up they messed it all .
Sorry English.

But anyway im not sure if im going to .. buy the candle etc to put on my door, etc.. i mean .. is that necessary? i now who iam, and the peace being i am. I have just not enough power to move and change the world alone.

"i know what a touch screen cellphone is.. and how it works, but i dont know how to build it.. though touch interfaces would appear like magic to ancient africans..."

[MiguelQ]

I have news.

Maria for the original portuguese text, i think published for the vatican, there is a copy and transcription.. check this link
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20000626_message-fatima_po.html

Okay.. so She.. also talk about , " A DRAGON TAIL -"looks llike " WIPING STARS IN THE SKY.. WILL DESTROY THE FAITH ON THE CHURCH"
Thats the event that will destroy the Church because its a Catastrophy.. 3 days of darkness..

PEOPLE I think this is the ONlY POSSIBLE TRUTH ABOUT THE EVENTS that will happen.. THIS is comming from ABOVE! not from earth...
Everything she said, i think it happened. And public saw.

Now what is the DRAGON Tail? :S
IM getting more info on the secret.. when i get more news i will update.

UPDATES:

-She also talks about Russia.. if they not "convert" there wont be peace, Russia will spread their mistakes on all mankind.

More:

There will be a war, in the 2nd half of the XX century.. that will be , ( probably because of the dust, thus the 3 days of darkness) and its probably nuclear.
it says it will wipe out half the population on the world in seconds.

- Portugal is the only place that faith is" standing up." or saved /kept?

- SHE wrote: There will be a "fire sea", that will come from bellow the sea we know, that we never though it existed before. With it, it will bring dead bodies, with the most horrifying faces and looks.

Also new animals , demoniacs, some transparent others black, that we never though existed.
(perhaps thats why its danger to go outside on those 3 days of darkness)


When you see a light in the night, from an unknown source.. thats the sign that it has begun.

The 3rd part of the secret:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KXfn9-Uw4jg/Sd3qBziu3xI/AAAAAAAAAXM/Ovgn5_sW3jk/s400/jesus_in_the_sky.jpg
She saw an angel , taller than Fatima MAry, with a sword, that spits fire, on left hand, but that fades away when the bright light that comes from the right hand of Mary.

-there is also something in the sky like a "she says: like a mirror, where you see your self", (i think its a portal or some sort, but she could not describe what she was seeing), from that mirror, we could see GOD, she said.

Also A men in white, probably the Saint priest, climbing the mountains, on ruins... with his cross. (i read somewhere this is related to the monolithic things on the moon... perhaps MEGATRON or something)

...and people collecting the blood from the innocent, into a cristal "jar" (in my point of view, i see this as a collecting blood to clone them , the innocent.. so the jar is like a pipette, to take blood samples... (read also somewhere long time ago.. this is relted to Secret Labs on the Moon.. to recreate the humans lost, that were good.)

[Eric J (Viking)]

Well perhaps the third secret is not genuine!! Food for thought!! ;-)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRMDgFnAnI8&feature=related

viking

[Giusmar]

Now what is the DRAGON Tail? :S
IM getting more info on the secret.. when i get more news i will update.

Could very well be the tail of Nibiru aka Planet X -" THE FIERY DRAGON"

[MariaDine]

http://www.aliensthetruth.com/UFO_videos.php?ID=152

About the Dragon's Tail

In Western Astrology, the Dragon's Head, a "shadow planet" exalted in Gemini, is considered generally benefic (good), whilst the Dragon's Tail, exalted in Sagittarius, is considered malefic (evil) in influence. Indian (Vedic) Astrology considers both nodes to be markedly unfortunate, due to their karmic, instinctive and unconscious nature, with Rahu being the worse. After all, in the pursuit of moksha (liberation), "good" karma is just as binding as "bad" karma—and more seductive. Since you have found this page, you probably know where the nodes are in your own horoscope, but if you don't, to find the position of the nodes you can calculate your own birthchart here [NOTE: the South Node is exactly opposite the North Node; South Node is not displayed in this calculator].

The motion of the Moon's Mean Node is retrograde through the zodiac at the rate of roughly one degree every 19 days (compare the 19 year cycle of lunation). I should clarify here that the Moon's Mean Node is always retrograde, but the True Node oscillates according to the Moon's "wobble". This is caused by the gravitational effects of the Earth/Moon interaction, so the True Node sometimes has periods of direct motion. These periods of direct motion are considered unfortunate, as they go against the "natural motion" of the nodes. The Mean Node averages this "wobble" out, so giving a clearer picture.

The Dragon's Tail

The South Node of the Moon is a negative energy that is a form of "karmic residue", dragging the soul toward his past accomplishments, inner fears, and weaknesses. This build-up of previous incarnations must be eliminated, and a chance is given to you by the "Great Designer" to experience new experinces and growth. As a rule, we are all naturally attracted by the Dragon's Tail. This is similar to a child wanting to stay home instead of going to his new school, facing others children and refusing to progress with the rest of his class. There, at home, (Tail), the soul feels secure and confident with what he knows best. In my research, I have noticed that following the Dragon's Tail's commands can only lead its owner toward failure, pain, drama even death. In some extreme cases, the Dragon's Tail causes the soul to lead other people into its own dark past life residue, (David Koresh/Jones), thereby hurting the innocent, trusting souls who follow them. Sometimes, for specific karmic reasons, the Dragon's Tail can be used positively, thus has produced gifted musicians such as Bach and Schubert.

Here, the soul's past life musical work comes to fruition for others to enjoy or learn from. God has allowed these "geniuses" to use their previous life's work for the benefit of mankind, and they were able to accomplish wonders at an early age. The location of the Dragon's Tail is where all of your weaknesses will be coming from. You have been there. You have done that. You have learned those lessons. God will not help you there and if not aware of the Dragon's Head which is promising opportunities, you will end up striving either for financial or emotional security. Sometimes, unexpected experiences such as an accident or the use of chemicals (drugs/alcohol/medication) will cause the soul to be drawn back into his past life residue. The purification and progress of the soul can only be found on the "next" experiences promised by the location of his Dragon's Head by house and sign of the zodiac. Armed with such a powerful knowledge, one is able to establish emotional, finacial and spiritual stability. We all are children of this magnificent galaxy, and there is a reason for the Dragon to be a part of the complex universal mind mechanism...

[MariaDine]

I agree with the comments that the original text of the 3 Secret has been added.
Some of the message is very specific. All the rest sounds like a sermon for convertion to cristian doutrine.
I also think the same strategy is present in the so called messages of Mary, from other countries.

http://www.garabandal.org/story.shtml

--- THE GARABANDAL APPARATIONS IN NORTHEN SPAIN 1961 -1965 (FOR EXEMPLE)

But one must also not ruled out , as it has been stated above in the video, the Interdimensional existence of beings, like the White Brotherhooi already refered by Madme B., The Urantia BooK, Alice B. , the chilenian Rodrigo Romo, etc....so many others.

About Nibiru, acording to Mister Shichin, the date he refers for the supposed arrival of that planet is the the year 3 thosand and something., not 2012 (or any other date). Go and check his original statement, nor the declarations and elaborations of ignorant third parties.

Try to read between the lines. If the interdimensional portals are fluid , the dimensions can touch each other ...so many things from other dimensions will became present in our dimension. Those that have develloped their 3 sight already see this hapenning, at times.

[MariaDine]

Another link/site of the investigation of the fenomenon

http://www.perceptions.couk.com/fatima.html

[MariaDine]

Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:45:05 +0100

Dear friend,
I have the pleasure to send the information above that concerns the preview of the second book of the Fatima trilogy in next July. This new work deals with the "historic construction" of the Fatima Secret.

I appreciate if you can difuse and comment it throughout your site.

Thank you very much.

Joaquim Fernandes, Ph.D
University Fernando Pessoa
Porto
Portugal

For Immediate Release
June 6, 2006

New Book `Celestial Secrets' Reveals Fatima Cover-Up
Authors say Jesuits Conspired to Conceal Original Fatima Secret in 1917

VICTORIA, BC - A new book by the world's leading historians of the Fatima incident reveals how the Jesuits conspired to conceal the original text of the Fatima Secret during the famed 1917 apparitions.

The Fatima incident was the most exceptional religious event of the 20th century. In 1917, three Portuguese children encountered a radiant woman, who told them three secrets about the fate of the Earth. During "The Miracle of the Sun," the solar orb was seen to dance in the sky by thousands of awestruck onlookers who flocked to Fatima.

The apparitions were presumed to be a case of divine intervention in human affairs, a sign from Heaven that the world war then raging in Europe would soon come to an end.

Fatima entered both church dogma and popular culture as the most celebrated Marian apparition of all time. A shrine sprang up at Fatima that drew millions of believers, and a widespread myth developed that the prophecies of Fatima would one day be fulfilled.

In 1978, Portuguese historians Joaquim Fernandes and Fina d'Armada were given unprecedented access to the original records of the Fatima incident, which had been held secretly by the Catholic Church at the Sanctuary of Fatima since 1917.

In Heavenly Lights - a work published last year that the Fortean Times (UK) hailed as "priceless" - Fernandes and d'Armada explored the many intriguing links they found in the archives between the apparitions of Fatima and the worldwide unsual aerial phenomenon.

In July, Fernandes and d'Armada publish their powerful new book about the enigmatic Fatima incident, which has been debated by believers and skeptics since its occurrence.

Celestial Secrets: The Hidden History of the Fatima Cover-Up (EcceNova Editions; July 1, 2006; 9.95) tells the fascinating tale of how Seer Lucia dos Santos education by Jesuits priests during decades produced a distorced Secret story in 1941 which has shaped our modern view of the events at Fatima in 1917.

The historians show that the Fatima incident did not involve visitations by the Virgin Mary, as the Jesuits purported, and also compare the modern "contactee" syndrome with the classic religious and apparitional experiences.

Investigative journalist Jim Marrs was so impressed by this exposé of the Fatima cover-up that he wrote a Foreword to it in which he states that Celestial Secrets is "the best researched, the most detailed, and the most comprehensive look at the Fatima apparitions ever published... Fatima, it seems, was an early episode in the Cosmic Watergate."

About the Authors
Joaquim Fernandes, Ph.D, is Professor of History at the University Fernando Pessoa in Porto, Portugal. He directs the Multicultural Apparitions Research International Academic Network (Project MARIAN). His research interests include the history of science and the comparative anthropology of religion, with an emphasis on anomalistic phenomena.

Fina d'Armada holds a Master's degree in Women's Studies. She has written five books about the Fatima incident, all based on original documents held in the archives - three co-authored with Fernandes - and hundreds of articles. Her research interests include phenomenology, local history, the history of women, and the era of Portuguese discovery.

About the Book
Celestial Secrets: The Hidden History of the Fatima Cover-Up By Dr. Joaquim Fernandes and Fina d'Armada
Translated by Alexandra Bruce
Edited by Andrew D. Basiago
Foreword by Jim Marrs
EcceNova Editions
Publication Date: July 1, 2006
Price: US 9.95, CAD 4.95, £11.99
# Pages: 276
ISBN: 0-9735341-8-4 (978-0-9735341-8-4)
For Publisher's Summary, Author Information, Jacket Photo, Excerpt, and Contact Details visit:
www.eccenova.com
and follow the link to the Media Kit.

Contacts with the Authors:
Prof. Joaquim Fernandes
University Fernando Pessoa
Praça 9 de Abril, 349
4249-004 Porto
Portugal

[MariaDine]

Check out what the POPE said whwn he was in fatima last may 2010

...It referes twice to Lineage of the people of God (?), God´s Future (?), to those who belive with seeing , ....that people are mistaken if they think the profecies of Fatima are over !!!!!!!!...and takls about the times that God showed up to save the city ...like Mary appared in Fatima (?)

THE SERMON OF THE POPE

"The pedigree of the people of God will be known [...] as lthe ineage that the Lord blessed" (Isaiah 61: 9).

So began the first reading of the Eucharist, whose words are a remarkable achievement in this meeting devoted to the feet of Our Lady of Fatima. Beloved brothers and sisters, I also came on pilgrimage to Fatima, this "home" that Mary chose to speak to us in modern times. I came to Fatima to rejoice in the presence of Mary and her maternal protection.

I came to Fatima, because today converge here for the pilgrim Church, willed by his Son as an instrument of evangelization and sacrament of salvation. I came to Fatima to pray with Mary and many pilgrims, our humanity overwhelmed by the miseries and sufferings.

Finally, with the same feelings of Blessed Francisco and Jacinta and the Servant of God, Lucy, came to Fatima to entrust to Our Lady of intimate confession that 'love' that the Church, that priests' love 'Jesus and in Him want to keep their eyes fixed to the end this Priestly year, and to entrust to the maternal protection of Mary priests, consecrated men and women, missionaries and all the good workers who become warm and beneficent God's House.

They are the lineage that the Lord blessed ... Line that the Lord blessed art thou, beloved Diocese of Leiria-Fatima, with your Pastor Don Antonio Marto, whom I thank for the initial greeting and all the attention showered me with that particular through its employees in this sanctuary. I greet the President and other officers in the service of this glorious nation.

Ideally embrace all the dioceses of Portugal, represented here by their bishops, and trust to Heaven all peoples and nations of the earth. In God, close to the heart all its sons and daughters, especially those living troubled or abandoned, the desire to communicate to them that great hope that burns in my heart and that, in Fatima, it makes finding more sensitively. O

ur great hope take root in the life of each one of you, dear pilgrims here today, and how many are in communion with us through the media.

Yes! The Lord, our great hope, is with us, in his merciful love, offers a future to his people: a future of communion with him. Having experienced the mercy and consolation of God has not abandoned him on the arduous journey back from exile in Babylon, the people of God exclaims: "Rejoice greatly in the Lord, my soul rejoices in my God" (Is 61, 10).

Daughter excelsa this people is the Blessed Virgin of Nazareth, which, clothed with grace and sweetly surprised by the pregnancy of God which was operating at its core, this is also their joy and hope in this song of the Magnificat: "My spirit rejoices in God my Savior. " However do not see themselves as privileged people in the middle of a barren, it foretells before the sweet joys of a miraculous motherhood of God, because "his mercy is from generation to generation on those who fear Him" (Lk 1, 47.50).

Proof of this is this blessed place.

More than seven years and you return here to celebrate the centenary of the first visit by Lady "coming from heaven," as Master introducing small intimate knowledge of the seers in Trinitarian Love and leads them to enjoy God Himself as the most beautiful of human existence .

An experience of grace that made them lovers of God in Jesus, the point of Jacinta exclaim: "I like both tell Jesus that I love. When I tell him often seem to have a fire in the chest, but not get burned. " And Francis said: "What I liked most was to see Our Lord, Our Lady in that light that got us into the chest. I like both of God "(Memoirs of Sister Lucia, I, 40 and 127).

Brothers, listening to these innocent and profound mystical outpourings of the Shepherds, could someone look at them with a little envy for having seen or disappointed with the resignation of those who had no such luck but insists on seeing. To such people, as the Pope says Jesus, "Do not ye walk you cheated, ignoring the Scriptures and the power of God?" (Mk 12, 24). The Scriptures encourage us to believe:

"Blessed are those who believe without seeing" (Jn 20, 29), but God - closer to myself as being myself (cf. Saint Augustine, Confessions, III, 6, 11) - has the power to reach us including through the inner senses, so that the soul is touched by something real that is beyond the sensible, making it capable of reaching the non-sensitive, non-visible to the senses.

To do so requires a monitoring of the heart that most of the time, we do not have because of the intense pressure of external reality and the images and thoughts which fill the soul (cf. Card. Joseph Ratzinger, Commentary's theological message Fatima, 2000). Yes! God can reach us by offering Himself in our inner vision.

Further, that Light in the depths of the Shepherds, which comes from God's future, is the same that was manifested in the fullness of time came and for all: the Son of God made man.

He has the power to ignite the hearts colder and sad, as we see the disciples of Emmaus (cf. Lk 24, 32). So our hope is real foundation, is based on an event that arises in history and at the same time exceeds it: Jesus of Nazareth. And the enthusiasm that his wisdom and power saving people raised in that time was such that a woman from the crowd - as we heard in the Gospel - exclaims: "Blessed is she who bore in her womb Te and Te suckled to her breast."

Yet Jesus observed: "More blessed are those who hear the word of God and put into practice" (Lk 11, 27. 28).

But who has time to listen to his word and let yourself be fascinated by your love? Who sail on the night of doubt and uncertainty, with the heart awake in prayer?

Who is waiting for the dawn of the new day, with the flame of faith?

Faith in God opens to men the horizon of a certain hope that does not disappoint; indicates a solid foundation on which support, without fear, life itself, requesting the abandonment, full of confidence, in the hands of love that sustains world.

"The lineage of God's people will be known [...] as lineage that the Lord blessed" (Is 61, 9) with a steadfast hope that fruits and a love that sacrifices for others, but does not sacrifice the others before - as we heard on second reading - "excuses everything, he believes, always hopes, always perseveres" (1 Cor 13, 7).

Example and encouragement are the shepherds, who made his life a gift to God and sharing with others for God's sake. Our Lady helped them to open their hearts to universal love. In particular, Blessed Jacinta proved to be tireless in sharing with the poor and sacrifice for the conversion of sinners. Only with this love of brotherhood and sharing build a civilization of Love and Peace

Deceiving those who would think that the prophethood of Fatima is completed.

Here he relives the plan of God which humankind from its beginnings, "Where is Abel thy brother? [...] The voice of thy brother's blood cries out to Me from the earth "(Gen. 4, 9). The man could trigger a cycle of death and terror, but can not stop it ...

In Sacred Scripture, God often show up looking for just to save the human city and the same is here in Fatima, where Our Lady asked: "Would you offer yourselves to God to bear all the sufferings He wills to send you in an act of reparation for the sins with which He is offended and in supplication for the conversion of sinners? "(Memoirs of Sister Lucia, I, 162).

With the human family ready to sacrifice its ties holiest on the altar of narrow self-interest of nation, race, ideology, group, individual, came down from heaven to our Blessed Mother offering himself to transplant the heart of those who give themselves the love of God that burns in her. Then there were only three, whose life example beamed and multiplied into countless groups across the earth's surface, including the crossing of the Pilgrim Virgin, who voted for the cause of fraternal solidarity.

To the seven years since the centenary of the Apparitions hasten the promised triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary for the glory of the Holy .

[MiguelQ]

Maria, that dragon tail thing. is it about zoodiac?, thus, something we should check on our astrological chart or something?


About the secret, there were 2 envelopes. one with 4 pages i think, and the other with 25 lines.. (from what i read trough the time)

[MariaDine]

Yes, the dragon's tail is present in every horospe. Get a good astrolger to do your natal chart and also explain what it means in the general chart of the year. For exemple, what in means in the year 2017...or any other date you can think of as being special...

The envelopes...who knows ? Maybe in the books of the historian Fina D'armada there is something... off hand I don't remember anything relevant.

[MiguelQ]

if anyone knows how to read here is mine:
http://astrozet.net/php/image/image.php?p=258;141;252;286;221;20;263;266;277;221&h=165;189;219;252;286;318;&a=01.120.02;01.000.03;01.120.06;01.000.07;01.000.08;02.120.06;02.120.07;02.120.08;04.060.05;04.090.0 6;04.060.10;05.060.09;05.000.10;06.120.07;07.000.08;09.060.10
http://astrozet.net/php/calc_en.php

[Deega]

if anyone knows how to read here is mine:
http://astrozet.net/php/image/image.php?p=258;141;252;286;221;20;263;266;277;221&h=165;189;219;252;286;318;&a=01.120.02;01.000.03;01.120.06;01.000.07;01.000.08;02.120.06;02.120.07;02.120.08;04.060.05;04.090.0 6;04.060.10;05.060.09;05.000.10;06.120.07;07.000.08;09.060.10
http://astrozet.net/php/calc_en.php

Thanks Miguel,

Does the software presents all the characteristics of your birth chart (sky and astrology) ? And may you confirm that the description (characteristics) of your personality, your influence, etc., coincide pretty much with you...?

Many thanks.

Deega

[MiguelQ]

HUm.. that is made online, not a software you download. but im sure there are some outhere.
That simple online one, just tells some traits of your sign relation to the houses.
BUt i have one that i think its better...
http://www.chaosastrology.net/freeastrologyreports.cfm

[Deega]

HUm.. that is made online, not a software you download. but im sure there are some outhere.
That simple online one, just tells some traits of your sign relation to the houses.
BUt i have one that i think its better...
http://www.chaosastrology.net/freeastrologyreports.cfm

Many thanks Miguel, great of you, i will try the link tomorrow.

All my blessings.

Deega