The potential of Avalon...

[Peace of Mind]

...might be fading,

For the love of everything righteous…what is happening to Avalon? There is just too much noise and uncertanties saturating the forums. I was invited here over 2years ago because of my unique ability to spread awareness through mass media (TV, Radio). The company/connections I keep range from actors/actresses, musicians, singers/rappers, artists, athletes, lawyers, military personal and more….

My tides are deep rooted through years of association/networking. My involvement is from an influential standpoint and in doing so I’ve formed strong bonds and covertly formed several think tanks. When I was invited here (by another member)…I was told there are people with info and strong convincing material that will help us spread awareness to the masses. I've personally placed some important lurkers here to sift thru the site. At times, I wanted to reveal my identity but knew in doing so I would be exposing some of my partners. In time, that may happen, unfortunately, I doubt that will happen before the acts of compassion become obvious. We are primed to spontaneously and systematically release any credible info thru your TV sets, radios and other popular media outlets ….that’s if the material can be authenticated. We consider ourselves to be the “Sacrificial Lambs”, some of the last people whom never gave up the fight for humanity and the disclosure of truths. This isn’t the first time I mentioned this and my intentions here.

Over the last 2 years, I’ve been requesting something of substance that my crew and I can use to hasten the global awareness through some of the mass media. I observed the forum before joining it…and since my first few posts all the whistle blowing turned into tweets, stopped, or become criptic. I/we can fund more interviews that will lead to credible evidence, but we will not take risks nor be responsible for peddling lies to the populace. If we are going to make sacrifices they will be pure and for the greatest of good. Good hearted people still are working within this corrupt system; however they are being taken from their positions of power due to the steady rise of corruption. In their/our last attempts of TRUE liberation… we feel compel to do whatever is necessary for the people before it gets worse…or too late.

There have been (and still are) some great minded members here. Many of them are leaving Avalon just when their contributions were starting to come into fold. Speaking for myself, this has become noticeable and disheartening due to a pattern I’ve learned to recognize lately…. inevitably, this has taken away the actual purpose of the forum.
Now, it’s being populated with unproven alien testimonies and scores of photoshop vids. This is a HUGH red flag, imo, simply because there is no purpose/meaning/benefit for releasing such unfounded information. All it ever did was distract the people from thinking and working together on issues that can actually be proven and dealt with.

I can easily respect anyone’s stance/comments/stories, but I have a problem with these people claiming facts while their material is in FACT presented akin to opinions. Alien hype, astrology, cosmology is all forms of theology. Too much is unproven, yet the masses play along and wonder why they remain confuse. We will do great when we stop putting FAITH in the enemies’ ideologies; we need to make our power moves off of facts…facts you/I/we can actually experience.

I’ve asked members here for something I can use to help them get exposure, or in the least genuine help…. of course I was ignored and my PM box remained empty…yet these same members continue to feed the forum propaganda, resulting in a stagnated community. I've struggled hard to see the righteousness in this. Is it attention seeking, or is it another conditioning agenda for upcoming false flags? If I, (and/or family) were being harassed by anyone or thing… the last thing I would think of doing is posting in a forum that cannot do anything to alleviate that suffering, that will only highten the attacks...if you really think about it. I mean, what is there to gain here when your life is in such chaos, how in the world do you find the time and energy to waste it here with small talk? What do they really expect to gain? Answers: your energy, attention, and time away from dealing with what is truly important....in the least, this can also be seen as preparation for false flags. (My BS detectors are highly advanced and they have been beeping a lot lately)

I'm extremly sad to say, my visits here are becoming less frequent. Topics are becoming redundant, laced with fear mongering and ...for people to read who have never experienced any of the fear before hand, now they live on with unconfirmed facts hendering their daily lives. Many of the topics disappear as hoax's, but the fear/ideas stay seeded in the mind waiting for you to unconciously birth them later. My posts here have… and will always come from the heart, every one of my post here are fashioned to aid others in thinking for self before placing trust in false prophesy and vague chronology. I save all my small talk and unimportant chatter for Emails, PM’s, etc…I’m serious in dealing with our collective issues…I heed the urgency. The world and all of its occupants are crying out for help, I hear them and often wonder how many others here hear them. I see some say Avalon is a special place, but way too often time is wasted on trivial content. I don’t have the time to waste when it can be spent on something great. Do we truly want the change, or are we just acting like we do ( BUT, action speaks louder than words). Selfishness was never a part of my makeup, I doubt any of my post here were ever about me and I rarely spend time and energy on anyone/thing I didn't care about.

Our world, life styles were drilled into us; it’s the reason why many people except opinions over facts. I guess the professions/positions I hold aid me in recognizing fabrications and sci-fy tales, so in that aspect… I feel blessed and give thanks. I often leave this forum (after glancing over a few topics) feeling some members here are being conditioned by a few cleverly placed agents. All I can really say to this is that you should never believe someone/thing that can’t be proven or experienced for yourself. Ask yourself what will I gain from this, what should I be doing with this info that’s taking my attention from the issues I know exsist? What should I be doing with my time in such a place like this? Why is this important to me and how can I prove that it is? Why do I believe this when there is no proof of it? If you struggle answering these self asked questions...then you may be distracted with lies. The truth is in front of your face, you just have to clean off the crude disguising it.

Learn thyself, trust thyself and become invincible to all that seeks to rob you of your senses. Your every waken moment should be geared towards love, inspiring, prosperity and the advancement of the species. This practice will protect and provide clarity for you daily. If you find yourself engage in anything other than that (especially disempowering subjects)... then you are becoming part of the problem we all need to eliminate. Stop giving your power/attention to the darkness...it is only there to test you, but so many of us (unknowingly) are feeding it...building it up to overcome us.

The only thing stopping us… is us. Why keep making excuses and giving your power away to those that are looking to place you in fear? We have to break this treacherous cycle of being victims to wicked people/entities essentially needing our permission to control us/our thoughts. We know we can do better than what we have displayed thus far, even in these trying times where our motivation is being challenged relentlessly.

My brothers and sisters,
We have to want this, and truly act like we do…

Peace

[Eagle]

And now it comes out

[Simonm]

Great Opening post. Im a real newbie here, so may fall foul of the veterans. I have been reading this forum for several years now and was fascinated by the quality of the posts, but I have to agree it's a shadow of it's former self.

[alienHunter]

:noidea: I wish I had more to offer...I'm trying to learn the real stuff...that's why I joined up :noidea:

On 2nd thought...Do you have any suggestions? And please don't say...Go Away :(

[Tony]

Making the wrong assumptions.

If there is a problem with say, a device. One would simply look at it, smell it, test for continuity.
One would look for and eliminate the simplest solutions before looking for something more complex.

Guessing or opinion plays no part in solving any matter. That is what headless chickens might do!

Too many times on threads we read...“I do this”... “I do that” “I feel..I..I..I.
“I” clouds the issue!



I refer my honourable friend to a recent thread.

What if conspiracy sites were....venus fly traps!

Oh, you are not going to like this.

Get two people, one male the other female, ( people one can identify with) then get some whistle-blowers with a possible smidgen of truth about them, make videos....collect all those non-conformist thinkers under one or a few roofs! Then monitor them. Feed in bits of information, (not proven), channeling (not proven) predictions (not proven) and you have them all running round in circles...for as long as it suits you. And if it doesn't suit...what happens then?

Does any one believe these whistle-blowers, predictors and channelers any more?

Is this beyond possibilities?

Is it beyond possibilities to keep producing ufo type films half believable, the other obviously false...”That will keep us guessing!”

Derren Brown the 'illusionist' has shown that one can make the weak minded believe and see anything.

That is the whole point, get us to keep speculating as if we know, so we now think we are the whistle-blowers!
This automatically gets others backs up...and around we go again.
Conspiracy members have merely become repeaters. It's starting to sound like a religion that can be twisted at every turn.

And so the non-conformists start to conform!

I am really mindful of Albert Pikes finally solution:
To get everyone confused, theists and atheists that they do not know they are worshipping the “Bringer of Light'...Satan.
Perhaps Albert Pike and his friends are a subterfuge and that they are being used, after all we are going nowhere fast.

Why make statements that are Not provable? It merely keeps people guessing.
Everything, everything is a distraction to what is going on, on the ground!!!

Don't be so easily distracted.


Tony

[000]

PoM, I share some of your sentiments. The main reason I do not come around these parts more often is 'the closer I became to the truth, the more I became a part of it'. In my case, truth is also much stranger than fiction, yet in that strangeness, it makes so much more sense and everything was provable to myself. I cannot really elaborate upon that, and it is not the time to prove to others either as this was something unique, however sometimes we simply must move on and enter new stages in our lives and continue to do what we must.

Avalon still remains a great source of information but I do notice that it takes a lot more digging now because of various dramas which pop up every now and then. That is not necessarily a negative thing however, as it encourages each individual to begin digging for themselves even if that means venturing elsewhere. Since you have your own connections, make use of them, but don't wait for truth to come up in certain pockets of the internet only. If you have a team and can dig deeply, you will find what you need to find. It can be done on one's own too of course. The main thing is to not depend on a single area of knowledge to draw upon. There are plenty of outlets on and off the internet but it takes a lot of research and a lot of work to put together something meaningful. If one resource loses its efficient dymanics, simply look elsewhere and diversify. Knowledge is absolutely everywhere :) And if you find really good resources, contact them directly. There are plenty of researchers around who would give their all in presenting their information cohesively if given the chance.

[Eagle]

PoM, I share some of your sentiments. The main reason I do not come around these parts more often is 'the closer I became to the truth, the more I became a part of it'. I cannot really elaborate upon that but sometimes we simply must move on and enter new stages in our lives and continue to do what we must.

Avalon still remains a great source of information but I do notice that it takes a lot more digging now because of various dramas which pop up every now and then. That is not necessarily a negative thing however, as it encourages each individual to begin digging for themselves even if that means venturing elsewhere. Since you have your own connections, make use of them, but don't wait for truth to come up in certain pockets of the internet only. If you have a team and can dig deeply, you will find what you need to find. It can be done on one's own too of course. The main thing is to not depend on a single area of knowledge to draw upon. There are plenty of outlets on and off the internet but it takes a lot of research and a lot of work to put together something meaningful. If one resource loses its efficient dymanics, simply look elsewhere and diversify. Knowledge is absolutely everywhere :) And if you find really good resources, contact them directly. There are plenty of researchers around who would give their all in presenting their information cohesively if given the chance.

More Digging! I Like it

[Tommy]

Hi Peace of Mind,

It's very nice to know a person with your kind of network are involved in what you are doing here, spreading awareness. Many thanks for your service :)

I wanted to add though that first I agree with the majority of points you are presenting, in fact some of what you are saying is giving me great relief, simply because someone else is saying (more or less) what I think.

One thing that I have come to observe is that what you are pointing out, in this case regarding Avalon, is true for far to many forums and internet communities. I know this all to well, also from experience running forums. I personally have stopped believing that internet forums\community can be "the real game changer" in itself. Sure a good forum like Avalon can be a nice way to "get started", you know, form some good relations, meet up, create groups etc, but after this the forum persona method kinda looses it's main purpose. It is a touchy subject and people are different, thus act different.. But since humanity seems to be so big on talking the talk but not walking the walk I fear a lot of the strong, often well though out ideas that aspire on a forum remains, well, just on the forum.. How often do we see great ideas on internet forums manifest in real life? From my personal perspective this rarely happens.

I think it is important to step out of our own shadows, start creating, enjoy the steep hills created to hinder your progress toward the top, enjoy feeling your heart racing not knowing exactly how the next moment is gonna pan out. Leave the arm-chair and do what you do best... CREATE!

Now, thanks Peace of Mind for allowing me to have this little rant :)

So in my humble opinion, I think your OP is relevant for all forums wanting to create "change".

All the best to you all, you are more awesome than you even know!

[Billy]

What to say.

Expectations can manifest disappointments

Reflections mirror back

Be the change that you want to see.

Peace

[Eagle]

In some cases the problem is not for lack of good threads but rather the amount of trash being posted, which in turn tends to bury anything of relevance. Some members here are being the change but they see as I do that there are too many “Squirrels”(UP) , posting now has become more like a freak show rather than the main attraction.

[Ineffable Hitchhiker]

Hi there,
what a thought provoking post Peace Of Mind.

I have a question regarding a statement you made ...



There have been (and still are) some great minded members here. Many of them are leaving Avalon just when their contributions were starting to come into fold. Speaking for myself, this has become noticeable and disheartening due to a pattern I’ve learned to recognize lately…. inevitably, this has taken away the actual purpose of the forum.
Now, it’s being populated with unproven alien testimonies and scores of photoshop vids. This is a HUGH red flag, imo, simply because there is no purpose/meaning/benefit for releasing such unfounded information. All it ever did was distract the people from thinking and working together on issues that can actually be proven and dealt with.

I can easily respect anyone’s stance/comments/stories, but I have a problem with these people claiming facts while their material is in FACT presented akin to opinions. Alien hype, astrology, cosmology is all forms of theology. Too much is unproven, yet the masses play along and wonder why they remain confuse. We will do great when we stop putting FAITH in the enemies’ ideologies; we need to make our power moves off of facts…facts you/I/we can actually experience.
Peace



Do you think the members are leaving only because of all the " noise" and fear-mongering?





Learn thyself, trust thyself and become invincible to all that seeks to rob you of your senses. Your every waken moment should be geared towards love, inspiring, prosperity and the advancement of the species. This practice will protect and provide clarity for you daily. If you find yourself engage in anything other than that (especially disempowering subjects)... then you are becoming part of the problem we all need to eliminate. Stop giving your power/attention to the darkness...it is only there to test you, but so many of us (unknowingly) are feeding it...building it up to overcome us.

The only thing stopping us… is us. Why keep making excuses and giving your power away to those that are looking to place you in fear? We have to break this treacherous cycle of being victims to wicked people/entities essentially needing our permission to control us/our thoughts. We know we can do better than what we have displayed thus far, even in these trying times where our motivation is being challenged relentlessly.

My brothers and sisters,
We have to want this, and truly act like we do…
Peace


Thank you for that. Well said. :yo:


I do think that not enough people visit the "Off the grid" section of the forum. :)
I don´t post much myself, but there is a wealth of information, that is very inspiring.

Good luck with your endeavours and hopefully we will be able to all work together, towards a better future for all of us.

[jorr lundstrom]

Ive also a dream of more people waking up and realize wots going

on. But alas, today its only allowed to spoon feed the egos here on

Avalon. Waking up make takes a little different approach than through

spoon feeding peoples egos. Sometimes people have to be shaken and

sometimes even provoked before we leave our comfort zones and start

thinking for ourselves. A couple of weeks ago we had a crises here on

Avalon when one highly loved and appreciated member was asked to

leave and that created wounds in many on the forum. He was very good

at getting members to a point where they began to think for themselves.

Unfortunatly some members with power in some way felt threatened and

used that power in a way that was a catastrophe for the mood and the high

level of the posts. It has been a continous lowering of many members

contributions since that period.and many are very cautious about wot

they write.

Ive heard a rumour that he can be back on Avalon if he apologize to some

members. Of course he wont do this as he actually got into a quarrel in

PM:s where the other side was at least as rude as he was.

I think it would be beneficial for the forum if he was asked to come back.

Of course this isnt the only dilemma the forum has to find an acceptable

to, but it sure would restore some of the lost geist.

It also seem as a lot of post lately have had the purpose to divide. This is

also something that we have to pay a lot of attention on.

I like to be here and I learn from both wot I concive as pleasent and

unpleasent events and for now I like the Merlin falcon fly very low.

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt81/sakasvattaja/merlin-in-mid-stoop.jpg

[gooty64]

Hi PoM, thank you for the this post. I am fairly new to Avalon Forum and this helps me with some of the recent history of the forum.

Actually, the 6 months I been here I have had a hard time getting my bearings straight. Some, rather tumultuous times, -indeed.

Well it does seem there are a lot comments, opinions and guesses going here on the threads of Avalon. I signed on to Avalon sincerely looking for solutions and a plan of action.


As far as me getting one person to awaken, I have had little success here in the heavily programmed, dumbed downed midwest U.S.of A. I am beginning to think that I am surrounded by zombies---this includes immediate family and friends.

All I can come up with is to start a small acreage and learn to garden as organically as possible, get off the grid as much as possible, consume as few resources as possible and it's past time to get started.

My thinking is that in the years to come the cities will spill back out into the countryside and sustainable communities will emerge----hopefully integrating around my acreage farm.


The company/connections I keep range from actors/actresses, musicians, singers/rappers, artists, athletes, lawyers, military personal and more….


PoM, I am not impressed by the company you keep assuming you are talking about "professional" Actors/actresses, rappers, athletes, lawyers, and military personal.

How many celebrities are risking their careers over 9/11, I count ONE so far.

On 9/11, how many TV personalities or politicians have walked away or made a scene on the LIVE news---ZERO!

I don't think they will be too happy on a quiet farm in Iowa. But, you and the singers, musicians, and artists are invited-anytime.

Thanks, Gooty

[another bob]

We have lots of birds who drop in at our garden through the seasons, and so we leave out some birdseed (and juice syrup for the hummers). Some of the birds, like woodpeckers, just stop by for a bite and a woody tune, while others like some Blue Jays and Towhees, Robins and Hummingbirds, have felt moved to settle down and call the place home in the surrounding gardenhood. Even among these, there's always some coming and going, and of course there are those stealthy cats who sneak around hunting and hoping. At different times of the day you can hear all sorts of songs emanating from the bushes and tall pines and oaks embracing us here in the forest. Ah, these trees! Everything is always singing, radiating and expounding the true wordless Dharma. Everything wants to express itself, to confirm its own existence, and although I may not understand the lyrics to the bird songs, I catch the drift in their lingo. For one thing, they're timing themselves to the light. It's thrilling when they're all singing, and even late at night, in the depths of silent moonshine, we're all together listening.

:yo:

http://www.pbase.com/1heart/bird_in_the_bush

[Providence]

Peace of Mind, I feel your pain!

I thank you for your graceful rebuke. I have to admit that I am somewhat disenchanted with PA, yet I have decided to stay in hopes that this current trend would subside in time. There seems to be a small group of members, the heart, that struggles with keeping the peace, re-aligning superficial thread topics with facts and the truth, and acting as referees between contentious members, but it gets old.

Enlightened human beings should not be functioning at this level. I enjoy a good debate, but the end result should always be peace and respect for one another.

We have much to do, growth is needed...

Providence

[13th Warrior]

Peace of Mind, I feel your pain!

I thank you for your graceful rebuke. I have to admit that I am somewhat disenchanted with PA, yet I have decided to stay in hopes that this current trend would subside in time. There seems to be a small group of members, the heart, that struggles with keeping the peace, re-aligning superficial thread topics with facts and the truth, and acting as referees between contentious members, but it gets old.

Enlightened human beings should not be functioning at this level. I enjoy a good debate, but the end result should always be peace and respect for one another.

We have much to do, growth is needed...

Providence

...this is why we are here on Earth...

[Snoweagle]

What a load of garbage lol
Nobody is leaving Avalon. People may drift away awhile, that's true. Not surprising when dream sellers of the NWO psyops battalions globally shift work the threads with nonsense.
For instance, PoM; you start by "selling" influence, impact and insight, yet you too have nothing more than an opinion about matters which are of no concern to you. Instilling doubt into the readership of this forum places your own diatribe in amongst "channeling" alien messages, the only difference, your "alien" associates are the " . . . range from actors/actresses, musicians, singers/rappers, artists, athletes, lawyers, military personal and more…. "
And then you end with hugs, love and kisses so truth seekers warm and provide conditional support for future posts not written yet.

This forum environment is not so much conspiracy but it's controversial as well. We need more supportive discernability rather than seeds of doubt provoking confusion as your post infers. Criticism must also be discussed and we must tackle that which we contend disrupting to all of the research and searches for truth that Camelot and Avalon provide. Nor do I imply that this forum is "the best", though I will contend favour to the opinion it is truly open and does discuss enough to make people "wake up" from the dissolving "life lie" of our existence.

We see to many time wasters here PoM and I believe your post to be yet another, taking to much inquiry time away from researchers.

[moontime]

Hi folks,
I'm new here so maybe I'm in over my head. I only just found this site a few days ago. So I don't know how it was before. But, my first impression was... FINALLY! How refreshing? A place where we all won't be criticized for our suggestions and thoughts on non-mainstream issues. There may be a little hocus pocus here and there. I don't sweet the small stuff because just like in life you got to peal back the layers of BS to get to the bottom. I personally will never believe something I see in a video or audio simply because of what we are capable of this day and time. Doesn't matter how real it may look. I need to see it through my eyes before I will fully accept it. But there seems to be a lot of dots and some day maybe they will connect and maybe they won't. We just have to be patient. The truth can not hide forever. Finally, this will be the year of the conspiracy theory because of all the hype. So fears will run rampant. And anything and everything will be thrown against the wall to see if it will stick.

[spiritguide]

Peace of mind,
Your energies are not all lost in the abyss. The answer is in guiding the proper resourses to the proper path. Many people here have decades of experience in many fields and can contribute viable information towards many solutions. Many people are coming here to learn and many are here to share proper knowledge. Checking EGO at the door is an understanding that is needed to become a viable member. The posting of a solicitation for projects might enhance teamwork/communications. Your concern is noted. Thank you!

:peace:

[13th Warrior]

I have to admit that my interest in PA has also been waning as of late...

[TargeT]

I come here for information, there's nothing else here is there?

www.atticus1.org is where I go for action, they are attempting to do things & have really great people, but again its still a group of humans so some conention exsists & of late information is all i can handle so this has been my haunt.

If your coming to an online forum for anythign but information I think your comming for the wrong reasons or you do not understand humanity well enough. we are the PERFECT KEYBOARD WARRIORS! think about what an outlet this is, how we think we are contributing by sharing our opinions or our "knowledge" (usualy just theory) but the fact is, its a "release" of sorts,,

if you want things to happen local is the only way to go.. and even then your still facing humanity & its weakness of always seeking the easiest path, you can SCARE someone that the easiest path is not best, but that's falling into the same old game we are trapped in now... you can INSPIRE someone, but good luck doing that to a wide spread audience online.. in person its much easier, but still a difficult task.

Keyboards are an outlet, expressing ideas seems to let some pressure off, pressure that could be used to modivate action.... so are forums like this mostly helpful or mostly harmful... I duno but they sure do keep me busy (which is exactly what this trap/reality seems to want at every level... keep you busy & distracted till you die...)

[BestLion]

What a load of garbage lol
Nobody is leaving Avalon. People may drift away awhile, that's true. Not surprising when dream sellers of the NWO psyops battalions globally shift work the threads with nonsense.
For instance, PoM; you start by "selling" influence, impact and insight, yet you too have nothing more than an opinion about matters which are of no concern to you. Instilling doubt into the readership of this forum places your own diatribe in amongst "channeling" alien messages, the only difference, your "alien" associates are the " . . . range from actors/actresses, musicians, singers/rappers, artists, athletes, lawyers, military personal and more…. "
From my reading of this, what is saying is "I am more spiritual, and this forum is going downhill because others are not as spiritually in-tune as I am"
Then the post in #1 wants to create a sort of division. Like what we seen in Salem Mass. 1692, between the spiritual "ht e first better spiritual people, then the others..who are that of of Lucifer, doomsday, augmentative etc..
I've been on forums since 2000. From peak oil boards-simple living forums-UFO forums etc..and I always see these type of post pop up. A person who has been on the forum for at least a year, and complains how bad it is going, and wants to set everyone strait.
I see it like this. This forum has 1,000s of post-videos-comments. if you don't like something then DON'T read it! Go to topics where you can contribute!

I was invited here over 2years ago because of my unique ability to spread awareness through mass media
Seems your just frustrated that no-one here has done more then just read your post , and gone to the next.
This forum has tons of good stuff, great videos, lots of different opinions 'this is good and helps us sort things out'. Ive been here only a month and through this forum found books, clips, great info, compelling artifacts about ancient history. That has increased my knowledge. i personally think you came here to teach, and not learn. Don't forget the old saying> The greatest teachers have been also great learners"

The in post #1 more then 75% of it again is you teaching. the reason of you post was again to set us strait... (and people who set strait love to cause divisions) And then incorporate your side or your theory -teaching to the rest of us at PA. This post #1 was nothing more then instilling doubts in the readers here at PA. You must have convinced a few you got 30 votes of thanks.
loosen up a bit on you ego and the world can open wide.
Cheers

[Peace of Mind]

Hi, all...
Thanks for the understanding, as this can be a touchy subject.

Those that find my post offensive can broaden their perspective by viewing life in 360 degrees. Placing yourself in other people’s shoes may be a bit uncomfortable but you’ll get to see where others are coming from and going. This exercise is a necessity when dealing with the billions of personalities in this world.

Conformity is the gist of my post. A bit more organization and sympathy for the times we’re in can go a long way. Avalon is a place where inquiring minds meet, seeking truths so they can apply them in their daily lives. Avalon has always been praised for its quality of people and information, but I’m noticing a changed.

The forum is displaying an influx of unfounded material…which blankets the place in obscurity. It’s starting to look like some people are throwing in Sci-fy stuff to either murk up the place with disinfo and/or shrewdly convince researchers to believe in nonsense. I’m aware that my post may cause some discontent and maybe ruffle a few feathers… but that is where the ego must be tamed. If you cannot see the intentions in my post then you may have some deeper issues than you may know. All it says… (in a nutshell) is “be careful with the information here and only give credence to what can be proven”. I see Avalon as one of a few catalysts to aid us all in saving the world. The mention of my affiliates is to give the reader a little understanding of what I can do. I deal with other aspects of the entertainment biz also, but mentioned these specifics due to their obvious impact on the community at large. It’s good to teach those you watch on the tube/screen how to better entertain you, while helping everyone to get the TRUE message out. I’m sure many people hardly watch TV anymore because it is filled with lies and propaganda; some of my colleagues are aware of this, agree, and want to do something about it. Yes, life is a game, if you want to affect the game…. you have to be a player in the game. You’ll hardly see anything to your liking if you don’t get involved…just like the enemy gets involved. We want to utilize our powers for the greater good while we still can. We notice the opportunities, except they are rarely met because of reliability deficiencies.

I hold this place in high regard; the support is clearly seen in all of my posts. Adamant? Yes. But that’s because without transparency, any subject claiming to be life altering/important/game changing/true history, etc…is potential poison. Avalon was created to encourage communion, and ideas to deal with the issues we all face. We all need to be responsible in what we do for self and each others, every action has their reactions. Everything we do (individually or collectively) has an effect on the whole. So, only believe what can be proven, anyone aiming to get you to believe in something that they can’t prove for themselves is doing you (and possibly themselves) a great disservice. It’s not hard at all to see my intentions here; however an inflated ego does seem to overlook them at times. That’s OK though, we all struggle on various levels when dealing with the ego, as long as we can acknowledge where and when the ego takes over us… we can adapt and make changes accordingly.

As I mentioned before, it’s not about me. It’s about us. If I see something others may not see I’m going to speak on it because I care where we are headed. I anticipate everyone else here to feel the same way and play their parts with techniques exemplifying responsibility. There’s only 2 ways to this…We either help each other….or the opposite. My choices have always been clear since day one and they will never change.

Peace

[Tony]

I have had to stop telling people about Avalon,
because some claims are unhelpful to the public at large.


Tony

[Amysenthia]

Dear Peace of Mind,

With all due respect I can't agree with you completely about PA. Like Bill Ryan wrote not long ago, it is important that we post relevant material on this post and he had hoped that the context would be more about being the "ground crew" of change. I do believe that there is much relevant material to be found. Just like reading a newspaper, it can't be filled with just "breaking news". There has to be a little fluff in there to keep it interesting. In this respect there is just not that much "whistle blowing news" to tell anymore. The big news was about the existence of the PTB and their agendas. We know about that now. We are kept up to date about events, but there is just not daily news to these happenings. Are you expecting to come here and daily have whistle blower testimonies. This IMHO would make testimonies less believable.

Sorry but I must also point out. What have you posted lately? I am a visitor here regularly since the sites inception and can not say that I have seen you post that often. If you have such connections as you pointed out, what have you to say? I will give you some credit in your point that members should think about what they post before posting. Material should be about subjects that are fact based and adds to the what we are trying to accomplish here.

I love PA and value all contributions to the site. There are days that I log on and find nothing of interest to read. So I leave to come back another day. There have also been days that I saw a thread that I thought would not to be of interest only to find out that the thread started a dialogue that became very thought provoking. Much like this one.

Some members have left, can count them on one hand, and they have announced "they are leaving" and have stated various reasons why. (Its always interesting to see them logged on many weeks later reading threads). In all the reasons stated I found them to be personal issues that were internal to them. Not the fault of PA. Some state they didn't like the removal of a member such as the LS controversy. Personally I liked him. He did try to disparage some of my remarks at times. I usually dealt with his intellectual bullying in PM. After this he replied and apologized and I came to realize that this was just his personality and found him to be a worthwhile contributor to the site. Personally I do not know enough about what really happened to make a decision either way about this. I do know that I have made every effort when disagreeing with another member about a subject to do so in a non-confrontational, respectful manner that would hopefully not make that person feel "less than" by disagreeing with them. Some members I guess can't be taught this and it becomes the job of the administrators of this forum to do the ugly work. I give them credit for the work that they do. I am sure when deciding to ban a member that they do not do such things lightly and without much thought before acting.

So this being said I would not like to see this forum become one in which everything posted has to be whistleblower testimony, or how am I going to survive in the world crisis, etc. i like listening to the "newbies' talk about the "lights coming on", etc. Mind you if I am not int he mood that day I just don't view the thread. I like having this option. I would not like to see this forum become a "give me the facts only", type of site. This to me would make it dry and mind numbing.

So this being said Peace of Mind. Nice to hear from you and hope that people will read your thread and think of more relevant things to post to make PA a forum you will continue to enjoy.

[Tommy]

I find Peace of Mind's message to be very much in support of what Bill stated recently, because when you read what triggered Peace of Mind to post this, it has to do with the original mission statement of Avalon. Personally I find this balance between practical action and "theoretic" (in lack of a better term) action to be very important. I also agree with Bill that we DO have a lot of material to go on after the years of interviews by Camelot and others in the field.. Time to put that knowledge into practical use? I think so.

Although my job is to continue to get this existing and new information out as far and wide as possible to the general public, I do recognize that Avalon as an entity in itself would be far better off being a "practical" community, something I also would think Bill Ryan would be great at, he is a great motivator after all and he certainly has enough good people to motivate! I think balance and focus is pivotal in this time. I have noticed an increasing amount of "re-posts" from other forums here in the past few months, in some cases entire posts have just been duplicated from other sites, like for example ATS... If the majority of the material had been of high quality I don't mind a re-post, but often it is just.. well.. "time killers" of little substance.

Do not miss-understand though, this happens on many forums (PC included), I just think it would make sense to keep a balance between things. If you like to read about loads of unconfirmed stuff then surely ATS or GLP is a good place to go, but do we really need more of those forums? Can not Avalon have it's own identity?

Constructive thinking is key, and there is surely not a lack of thinkers here!

Just me thinking out loud :)

[blake]

...might be fading,

For the love of everything righteous…what is happening to Avalon? There is just too much noise and uncertanties saturating the forums. I was invited here over 2years ago because of my unique ability to spread awareness through mass media (TV, Radio). The company/connections I keep range from actors/actresses, musicians, singers/rappers, artists, athletes, lawyers, military personal and more….

My tides are deep rooted through years of association/networking. My involvement is from an influential standpoint and in doing so I’ve formed strong bonds and covertly formed several think tanks. When I was invited here (by another member)…I was told there are people with info and strong convincing material that will help us spread awareness to the masses. I've personally placed some important lurkers here to sift thru the site. At times, I wanted to reveal my identity but knew in doing so I would be exposing some of my partners. In time, that may happen, unfortunately, I doubt that will happen before the acts of compassion become obvious. We are primed to spontaneously and systematically release any credible info thru your TV sets, radios and other popular media outlets ….that’s if the material can be authenticated. We consider ourselves to be the “Sacrificial Lambs”, some of the last people whom never gave up the fight for humanity and the disclosure of truths. This isn’t the first time I mentioned this and my intentions here.

Over the last 2 years, I’ve been requesting something of substance that my crew and I can use to hasten the global awareness through some of the mass media. I observed the forum before joining it…and since my first few posts all the whistle blowing turned into tweets, stopped, or become criptic. I/we can fund more interviews that will lead to credible evidence, but we will not take risks nor be responsible for peddling lies to the populace. If we are going to make sacrifices they will be pure and for the greatest of good. Good hearted people still are working within this corrupt system; however they are being taken from their positions of power due to the steady rise of corruption. In their/our last attempts of TRUE liberation… we feel compel to do whatever is necessary for the people before it gets worse…or too late.

There have been (and still are) some great minded members here. Many of them are leaving Avalon just when their contributions were starting to come into fold. Speaking for myself, this has become noticeable and disheartening due to a pattern I’ve learned to recognize lately…. inevitably, this has taken away the actual purpose of the forum.
Now, it’s being populated with unproven alien testimonies and scores of photoshop vids. This is a HUGH red flag, imo, simply because there is no purpose/meaning/benefit for releasing such unfounded information. All it ever did was distract the people from thinking and working together on issues that can actually be proven and dealt with.

I can easily respect anyone’s stance/comments/stories, but I have a problem with these people claiming facts while their material is in FACT presented akin to opinions. Alien hype, astrology, cosmology is all forms of theology. Too much is unproven, yet the masses play along and wonder why they remain confuse. We will do great when we stop putting FAITH in the enemies’ ideologies; we need to make our power moves off of facts…facts you/I/we can actually experience.

I’ve asked members here for something I can use to help them get exposure, or in the least genuine help…. of course I was ignored and my PM box remained empty…yet these same members continue to feed the forum propaganda, resulting in a stagnated community. I've struggled hard to see the righteousness in this. Is it attention seeking, or is it another conditioning agenda for upcoming false flags? If I, (and/or family) were being harassed by anyone or thing… the last thing I would think of doing is posting in a forum that cannot do anything to alleviate that suffering, that will only highten the attacks...if you really think about it. I mean, what is there to gain here when your life is in such chaos, how in the world do you find the time and energy to waste it here with small talk? What do they really expect to gain? Answers: your energy, attention, and time away from dealing with what is truly important....in the least, this can also be seen as preparation for false flags. (My BS detectors are highly advanced and they have been beeping a lot lately)

I'm extremly sad to say, my visits here are becoming less frequent. Topics are becoming redundant, laced with fear mongering and ...for people to read who have never experienced any of the fear before hand, now they live on with unconfirmed facts hendering their daily lives. Many of the topics disappear as hoax's, but the fear/ideas stay seeded in the mind waiting for you to unconciously birth them later. My posts here have… and will always come from the heart, every one of my post here are fashioned to aid others in thinking for self before placing trust in false prophesy and vague chronology. I save all my small talk and unimportant chatter for Emails, PM’s, etc…I’m serious in dealing with our collective issues…I heed the urgency. The world and all of its occupants are crying out for help, I hear them and often wonder how many others here hear them. I see some say Avalon is a special place, but way too often time is wasted on trivial content. I don’t have the time to waste when it can be spent on something great. Do we truly want the change, or are we just acting like we do ( BUT, action speaks louder than words). Selfishness was never a part of my makeup, I doubt any of my post here were ever about me and I rarely spend time and energy on anyone/thing I didn't care about.

Our world, life styles were drilled into us; it’s the reason why many people except opinions over facts. I guess the professions/positions I hold aid me in recognizing fabrications and sci-fy tales, so in that aspect… I feel blessed and give thanks. I often leave this forum (after glancing over a few topics) feeling some members here are being conditioned by a few cleverly placed agents. All I can really say to this is that you should never believe someone/thing that can’t be proven or experienced for yourself. Ask yourself what will I gain from this, what should I be doing with this info that’s taking my attention from the issues I know exsist? What should I be doing with my time in such a place like this? Why is this important to me and how can I prove that it is? Why do I believe this when there is no proof of it? If you struggle answering these self asked questions...then you may be distracted with lies. The truth is in front of your face, you just have to clean off the crude disguising it.

Learn thyself, trust thyself and become invincible to all that seeks to rob you of your senses. Your every waken moment should be geared towards love, inspiring, prosperity and the advancement of the species. This practice will protect and provide clarity for you daily. If you find yourself engage in anything other than that (especially disempowering subjects)... then you are becoming part of the problem we all need to eliminate. Stop giving your power/attention to the darkness...it is only there to test you, but so many of us (unknowingly) are feeding it...building it up to overcome us.

The only thing stopping us… is us. Why keep making excuses and giving your power away to those that are looking to place you in fear? We have to break this treacherous cycle of being victims to wicked people/entities essentially needing our permission to control us/our thoughts. We know we can do better than what we have displayed thus far, even in these trying times where our motivation is being challenged relentlessly.

My brothers and sisters,
We have to want this, and truly act like we do…

Peace

Hello Peace of Mind,

I am puzzled by what you are trying to convey exactly. You seem to be asking people not to post things that can’t be validated? So I surfed though a few of your old posts to get a better idea of what your message is, and came across this post, where you state you haven’t paid taxes in seven years. I didn’t copy the whole post just a relevant paragragh….

………..

“. . . Most people in my circle have done the same thing…as far as taxes. I don’t owe the fed anything… they owe me and I’m not afraid to let them know. If they want to go to court (which I know they don’t) I’m prepared with notes, documents and supporters willing to expose all of them…and they know this too. This is probably the very reason why it’s been so long since I’ve heard anything from them again. I’m not one of those guys that will sit back thinking about people shuffling me off to jail. I don’t give power to that notion so it will not happen, Simple. That’s something a defeated soul will keep in the back of their minds, not me.”



You appear very naive, inexperienced, and foolish in writing that paragraph. Plus you can not validate what you wrote as being true. And what is worse by implying that you know what you are talking about, encouraging others to follow suit in your actions and attitude towards the courts can ruin a person’s life. If you and your circle of friends are so well versed and educated into the issue of the income tax fight, then you must be familiar with the work of Larken Rose and similar people who spent their time behind bars after egging the government to prosecute them. Mr. Rose, as others, had all the legal ts crossed, he had all the research, and the documents and the supporters, but he, like many other legal eagle scholars, all forget one little minor detail, the courts in America are corrupt. And if you choose to go to court on this matter, you will become very poor and loose your freedom. Yes, there have been a few people who did win, one particular southern lawyer comes to mind. But the odds of your documents and supporters keeping you out of jail is slim to none; you obviously have little courtroom experience. You don’t seem to understand that the judge will determine what evidence you can submit to the court in your defense. And I guarantee any information that will support your case. WILL NOT be allowed. This fact has been a shock to many. Like Mr. Rose who honestly thought, because he had the hard core evidence to support his claim, that he would actually be allowed to show it in a court of law. He like many others learned the hard way that honesty and what is true and right has no place in the court room if you are attacking the establishment.

You wrote you want solutions and not baseless opinions or fantasy thinking. Yet I am reading this post that you wrote and thinking, that I know 100 percent you are wrong. If the government isn’t coming after you, it is not that they are afraid of you, it is because they think you are too insignificant, you hide well, you are just lucky, you have an inside connection, or you are not telling the whole story.

Please do give sound solutions to a correcting the corrupt income tax. Egging on the government after you have not been filing is a very stupid idea, and I don’t use that word lightly..

So again, I am confused about what you are conveying. Can you give me a concrete example?

Sincerely,

Mr. Davis

[blake]

I come here for information, there's nothing else here is there?

www.atticus1.org is where I go for action, they are attempting to do things & have really great people, but again its still a group of humans so some conention exsists & of late information is all i can handle so this has been my haunt.

If your coming to an online forum for anythign but information I think your comming for the wrong reasons or you do not understand humanity well enough. we are the PERFECT KEYBOARD WARRIORS! think about what an outlet this is, how we think we are contributing by sharing our opinions or our "knowledge" (usualy just theory) but the fact is, its a "release" of sorts,,

if you want things to happen local is the only way to go.. and even then your still facing humanity & its weakness of always seeking the easiest path, you can SCARE someone that the easiest path is not best, but that's falling into the same old game we are trapped in now... you can INSPIRE someone, but good luck doing that to a wide spread audience online.. in person its much easier, but still a difficult task.

Keyboards are an outlet, expressing ideas seems to let some pressure off, pressure that could be used to modivate action.... so are forums like this mostly helpful or mostly harmful... I duno but they sure do keep me busy (which is exactly what this trap/reality seems to want at every level... keep you busy & distracted till you die...)

Hello TageT,

I agree true action does mean getting out and helping your family and community. Local action is key to making good things happen. And yet the mind needs to be exercised, and respectful debate is a great way to exercise the mind, broaden one's perspective, and improve's one's ability to express themselves effectively and succcinctly. Yet how many humans like an intellectual debate? You are right, humans appear just to need to release what they are thinking or feeling rather than have intellectual interaction that might lead to great brainstorming or ideas for taking potential solutions back to your own community. What is it that Avalonians want? They all want information on different levels, but is there anything else that they really want, or can get from an online forum?


Sincerely,

Mr. Davis

[Rollo]

I'm new to this forum as well and I don't have a problem when here and there I read the post with no value or with some strange stories. Anyone can add here unlimited sources from where he/she is getting the information. But here on this forum(like not on any other) I can say without any hesitation that I saw UFO and I don't have to fly it to belive in its existence! We are not secret agents with access to the information that is not easy to handle and would change life on this planet forever. But we have something real here it's us - community, Bill, Viking and others. And since the first day of this forum the world is different.

[Mark]

There have been (and still are) some great minded members here. Many of them are leaving Avalon just when their contributions were starting to come into fold. Speaking for myself, this has become noticeable and disheartening due to a pattern I’ve learned to recognize lately…. inevitably, this has taken away the actual purpose of the forum.
Now, it’s being populated with unproven alien testimonies and scores of photoshop vids. This is a HUGH red flag, imo, simply because there is no purpose/meaning/benefit for releasing such unfounded information. All it ever did was distract the people from thinking and working together on issues that can actually be proven and dealt with.

By their very nature, forums such as these are part of the problem rather than part of the solution. Any gathering of people interested in the truth will invariably be populated by individuals seeking the truth as well as individuals seeking to obscure that truth. Whether or not that is purposeful or not matters not. Whether those people are paid to do so or not matters not. What matters is that it is an expression of 'freedom of information' and 'freedom of speech' that gives us the opportunity to be either, truth seekers or truth obscurers, if you'll allow me to make up a word for this post.

Forums such as this do serve the purpose that Tony describes, as in, a place where it is possible for other entities to gauge the level of public awareness, and, more particularly, the awareness of a certain subset of the overall population, to inject certain topics to see what type of responses are entertained, as well as influencing the perceptions of people who are knowledge-bringers in their local areas, or upon their own forums, radio stations and blogs, as many of us are. From PA, influence radiates outwards, into local communities the world across. Keeping such places as this filled with fear, drama and false flags is a job that doesn't necessarily require formal 'informants', 'agents' or 'trolls' to foster, as many people do such things by being contrarian and 'freedom-minded' as parts of their nature regardless of whether or not they have any other agenda.

Within any system that must be managed and is pyramidal in nature you will find an ebb and flow of individuals, especially of those individuals who have taken the time to do a vast amount of research and come to places like this in order to glean more information or share what they know. The expression of any form of control or suppression that must occur in a moderated forum can only result in those members leaving once they become the target of said moderation. Again, a natural result.

What then must occur takes the form of personal relationships as networks are created within and as a subset of the overall structure, which then leads to the creation of smaller and more integral communities of like-mind and nature, wherein action can take place which then leads to a similar radiation of intention and information outwards from that smaller community back into the larger community. A branching off, perhaps, where those who find resonance and consistency within each other's information and representation can then move forward together upon a certain track or in the attempt to make a larger impact upon the larger collective.

To expect the entire forum to engage in such is, I fear, quite a bit more than is realistic in light of the reality that we have seen manifested time and time again here, and - as was also mentioned by someone - in forums of this type the Net across.

That internal sense of discernment and also of human nature must be employed by us as individuals as we relate to each other in order to make the connections based upon a greater sense of Truth and that can only be expressive of a certain level of inner development, perhaps. If that greater Truth can then be disseminated to the masses, all the better. But if it must undergo some form of corruption or misinterpretation as it travels from the realm of actuality to expression, then that is only an expression of subjective perception and a condition of life in this world. This tendency can be alleviated to a degree only by collective consideration, which is within the purview of forums of this nature. But collective action must occur elsewhere and must begin at a smaller level, within the structure of these forums, this internet and this world in all of its hierarchical and pyramidal interactivity as we currently experience it.

[TargeT]

I have had to stop telling people about Avalon,
because some claims are unhelpful to the public at large.


Tony

so you don't trust their discernment?

I'll agree with you on a lot of people.. but there are no "safe" venue's for information, the INSTANT you get "trusted" source you invite manipulation because "trusted" means your audience has let it's guard down and will swallow what ever you feed them.

I'm sure "fox news" watchers think what they are recieving is truth & they might not even question the bias...

I think I'm backing myself into a "Huxley vr Orwel" moment...

http://roamingthoughtsdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/huxleyvsorwell.jpg

[Peace of Mind]

Hello Peace of Mind,

I am puzzled by what you are trying to convey exactly. You seem to be asking people not to post things that can’t be validated? So I surfed though a few of your old posts to get a better idea of what your message is, and came across this post, where you state you haven’t paid taxes in seven years. I didn’t copy the whole post just a relevant paragragh….

………..

“. . . Most people in my circle have done the same thing…as far as taxes. I don’t owe the fed anything… they owe me and I’m not afraid to let them know. If they want to go to court (which I know they don’t) I’m prepared with notes, documents and supporters willing to expose all of them…and they know this too. This is probably the very reason why it’s been so long since I’ve heard anything from them again. I’m not one of those guys that will sit back thinking about people shuffling me off to jail. I don’t give power to that notion so it will not happen, Simple. That’s something a defeated soul will keep in the back of their minds, not me.”



You appear very naive, inexperienced, and foolish in writing that paragraph. Plus you can not validate what you wrote as being true. And what is worse by implying that you know what you are talking about, encouraging others to follow suit in your actions and attitude towards the courts can ruin a person’s life. If you and your circle of friends are so well versed and educated into the issue of the income tax fight, then you must be familiar with the work of Larken Rose and similar people who spent their time behind bars after egging the government to prosecute them. Mr. Rose, as others, had all the legal ts crossed, he had all the research, and the documents and the supporters, but he, like many other legal eagle scholars, all forget one little minor detail, the courts in America are corrupt. And if you choose to go to court on this matter, you will become very poor and loose your freedom. Yes, there have been a few people who did win, one particular southern lawyer comes to mind. But the odds of your documents and supporters keeping you out of jail is slim to none; you obviously have little courtroom experience. You don’t seem to understand that the judge will determine what evidence you can submit to the court in your defense. And I guarantee any information that will support your case. WILL NOT be allowed. This fact has been a shock to many. Like Mr. Rose who honestly thought, because he had the hard core evidence to support his claim, that he would actually be allowed to show it in a court of law. He like many others learned the hard way that honesty and what is true and right has no place in the court room if you are attacking the establishment.

You wrote you want solutions and not baseless opinions or fantasy thinking. Yet I am reading this post that you wrote and thinking, that I know 100 percent you are wrong. If the government isn’t coming after you, it is not that they are afraid of you, it is because they think you are too insignificant, you hide well, you are just lucky, you have an inside connection, or you are not telling the whole story.

Please do give sound solutions to a correcting the corrupt income tax. Egging on the government after you have not been filing is a very stupid idea, and I don’t use that word lightly..

So again, I am confused about what you are conveying. Can you give me a concrete example?

Sincerely,

Mr. Davis



Out of all my posts... you find this piece of a post... to stick out the most to you? hmmm…I find that a bit odd. All of my posts (combined) clearly shows why that statement was made. I do understand where you're coming from...

If I’m not mistaking (I could be wrong, thou), I think that thread, or another simular one has a few links providing further info to assist you (and others) with their tax/robbery situation.

My experience in this matter may not work for you, but all I basically do is be responsible for my own well being. I never owned a credit card, paid my own way through schools, don’t used Medicaid or welfare, saved my own cash up to buy my rides and home. I don’t owe anyone anything. As I’ve told others who like to say “It’s the law”. I say it’s your Law not mines. Then…. I go on by my merry way, blissfully creating the life I want…not the life some veiled crooked entity wants me to focus on. I believe this simple attitude indifference is what truly makes the difference. I don’t give power to those I don’t want to have it., don’t think about them, don’t talk about them…in fact…… this post is likely the most power I’ve giving them thus far..

Everything you buy (food, car, car insurance, car registration, gas, homes, home supplies, clothes, cable tv, cell phones, tooth brush, entertainment, etc, everything…is taxed. When you’re born you’re taxed, die you’re taxed…inheritance taxed, turn on your light and flush the toilet…taxed. Yet, the country is trillions of dollars in debt, and all the rich fancy suits we HIRED to fix it do is get on your Teli forever telling you they need more of your personal income. Income Tax is actually illegal, so far it’s the major source of poverty and corruptions, before its illegal implementation... people flourished.

My personal world is going according to what I want, I only envision success. Those suffering from hang-ups and inopportunity…only need to stop worrying about hang-ups and inopportunity. If you think of ways to fail…then so be it, can’t blame anyone else but you. For those not knowing they cause this on themselves… empathy can only be reserved.

Why do most people lack enthusiasm is beyond me…but I’m not going to live out my life under anyone’s foot. In my eyes… death would be more inviting ….

Why live in such a magnificent world hindered by a hidden hand, purposely holding you back from your greatest potential? That’s a waste, and living a lie, on your knees, oppressed is not something I find appealing. I view death differently than most, I know it’s inevitable, it can’t be cheated. So I live in strength, without fear… living productively and happy is easy...only we allow it to be hard.

Our potential is peaking; together we are strong. Some may not have that faith in us, yet... So we should instill it…instead of weakening it.

Peace

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By their very nature, forums such as these are part of the problem rather than part of the solution. Any gathering of people interested in the truth will invariably be populated by individuals seeking the truth as well as individuals seeking to obscure that truth. Whether or not that is purposeful or not matters not. Whether those people are paid to do so or not matters not. What matters is that it is an expression of 'freedom of information' and 'freedom of speech' that gives us the opportunity to be either, truth seekers or truth obscurers, if you'll allow me to make up a word for this post.

Forums such as this do serve the purpose that Tony describes, as in, a place where it is possible for other entities to gauge the level of public awareness, and, more particularly, the awareness of a certain subset of the overall population, to inject certain topics to see what type of responses are entertained, as well as influencing the perceptions of people who are knowledge-bringers in their local areas, or upon their own forums, radio stations and blogs, as many of us are. From PA, influence radiates outwards, into local communities the world across. Keeping such places as this filled with fear, drama and false flags is a job that doesn't necessarily require formal 'informants', 'agents' or 'trolls' to foster, as many people do such things by being contrarian and 'freedom-minded' as parts of their nature regardless of whether or not they have any other agenda.

Within any system that must be managed and is pyramidal in nature you will find an ebb and flow of individuals, especially of those individuals who have taken the time to do a vast amount of research and come to places like this in order to glean more information or share what they know. The expression of any form of control or suppression that must occur in a moderated forum can only result in those members leaving once they become the target of said moderation. Again, a natural result.

What then must occur takes the form of personal relationships as networks are created within and as a subset of the overall structure, which then leads to the creation of smaller and more integral communities of like-mind and nature, wherein action can take place which then leads to a similar radiation of intention and information outwards from that smaller community back into the larger community. A branching off, perhaps, where those who find resonance and consistency within each other's information and representation can then move forward together upon a certain track or in the attempt to make a larger impact upon the larger collective.

To expect the entire forum to engage in such is, I fear, quite a bit more than is realistic in light of the reality that we have seen manifested time and time again here, and - as was also mentioned by someone - in forums of this type the Net across.

That internal sense of discernment and also of human nature must be employed by us as individuals as we relate to each other in order to make the connections based upon a greater sense of Truth and that can only be expressive of a certain level of inner development, perhaps. If that greater Truth can then be disseminated to the masses, all the better. But if it must undergo some form of corruption or misinterpretation as it travels from the realm of actuality to expression, then that is only an expression of subjective perception and a condition of life in this world. This tendency can be alleviated to a degree only by collective consideration, which is within the purview of forums of this nature. But collective action must occur elsewhere and must begin at a smaller level, within the structure of these forums, this internet and this world in all of its hierarchical and pyramidal interactivity as we currently experience it.

When describing forums in general… I agree. However, there was a time when this forum was on the verge of something extraordinary. The potential is definitely still there, but lately, it’s becoming like any other forum…

Peace

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I'm new to this forum as well and I don't have a problem when here and there I read the post with no value or with some strange stories. Anyone can add here unlimited sources from where he/she is getting the information. But here on this forum(like not on any other) I can say without any hesitation that I saw UFO and I don't have to fly it to belive in its existence! We are not secret agents with access to the information that is not easy to handle and would change life on this planet forever. But we have something real here it's us - community, Bill, Viking and others. And since the first day of this forum the world is different.

“Anyone can add here unlimited sources from where he/she is getting the information.” This is the thing I’m starting to see now … Which is cool, btw….but now the place is clutter with uncertainties…

In the past there were only a few topics that were focused on, expanded on, and most of them pertain to the PA/PC interviews. I find it strange now that it’s 2012 the whistles are silent but the hype is picking up… while the evidence still fails to present itself. I can easily display patience, trust all or dismiss all of the material here, but I’m witnessing that not everyone can do this. I don’t even have to respond to any of it…but when I see innocence struggling to comprehend some of this far fetch stuff, or when someone calls me to discuss something they saw here… I’m concerned and will intervene…even if it’s just to encourage clarity.

Peace

[Peace of Mind]

To add...
I enjoy the posts, the perspectives...

And agree with the statement “the big news is about TPTB”, and feel we all should create more topics dealing with these pressing issues. Most of what I can contribute will mostly be recognized outside of the forums. I rarely post here (just observe the info) but when I do post, providing/expanding on ideas and a little food for thought is typically what I’ll present (You can check my post history if you’re interested.) The main reason I started posting here in the first place is to gain more insight and disclosure on subject matters pertaining to 2012. There was a tread in the old forum made by someone who went by the name “Astral walker”. The topic created a buzz and brought plenty traffic to this site (including me). I wanted to help get the word out to the masses, do what I can do to help.

All the hype has slowly subsided until the whistles became silent. This bothers me a bit because the year is now 2012, yet there is still no evidence of anything that was mentioned by these people. You would think this extraordinary event will sprout wings and a bigger voice; instead, the forums became flooded with unconfirmed material about the subject from people who have never investigated any of the material first hand. Whether it’s being presented as facts or not…. very little people question it. It’s like they are blindly supporting a phony agenda, by giving attention to it. In my eyes this seems like preparation for a false flag.

There are no words to express my respect and admiration for those making sacrifices to bring forth the truth, until then, and whenever possible…. I’ll gladly point out the inaccuracies and cons some seem to ignore. Unfortunately, there are people willing to digest propaganda...simply because we were trained to do so.

To be clear, I’m just as interested as the next person when it comes to aliens and the cosmos. However, to let it consume me to a point that I’m blindly promoting it while there are more important issues to deal with is not healthy or productive…it’s quite contradictory, actually. When we say we want change, we have to be the change and show it in everything we do. How else will it happen?

Pardon me for my late replies, been busy lately. It's going to be a great year.

Peace

[blake]

Out of all my posts... you find this piece of a post... to stick out the most to you? hmmm…I find that a bit odd. All of my posts (combined) clearly shows why that statement was made. I do understand where you're coming from...

If I’m not mistaking (I could be wrong, thou), I think that thread, or another simular one has a few links providing further info to assist you (and others) with their tax/robbery situation.

My experience in this matter may not work for you, but all I basically do is be responsible for my own well being. I never owned a credit card, paid my own way through schools, don’t used Medicaid or welfare, saved my own cash up to buy my rides and home. I don’t owe anyone anything. As I’ve told others who like to say “It’s the law”. I say it’s your Law not mines. Then…. I go on by my merry way, blissfully creating the life I want…not the life some veiled crooked entity wants me to focus on. I believe this simple attitude indifference is what truly makes the difference. I don’t give power to those I don’t want to have it., don’t think about them, don’t talk about them…in fact…… this post is likely the most power I’ve giving them thus far..

Everything you buy (food, car, car insurance, car registration, gas, homes, home supplies, clothes, cable tv, cell phones, tooth brush, entertainment, etc, everything…is taxed. When you’re born you’re taxed, die you’re taxed…inheritance taxed, turn on your light and flush the toilet…taxed. Yet, the country is trillions of dollars in debt, and all the rich fancy suits we HIRED to fix it do is get on your Teli forever telling you they need more of your personal income. Income Tax is actually illegal, so far it’s the major source of poverty and corruptions, before its illegal implementation... people flourished.

My personal world is going according to what I want, I only envision success. Those suffering from hang-ups and inopportunity…only need to stop worrying about hang-ups and inopportunity. If you think of ways to fail…then so be it, can’t blame anyone else but you. For those not knowing they cause this on themselves… empathy can only be reserved.

Why do most people lack enthusiasm is beyond me…but I’m not going to live out my life under anyone’s foot. In my eyes… death would be more inviting ….

Why live in such a magnificent world hindered by a hidden hand, purposely holding you back from your greatest potential? That’s a waste, and living a lie, on your knees, oppressed is not something I find appealing. I view death differently than most, I know it’s inevitable, it can’t be cheated. So I live in strength, without fear… living productively and happy is easy...only we allow it to be hard.

Our potential is peaking; together we are strong. Some may not have that faith in us, yet... So we should instill it…instead of weakening it.

Peace

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Hello Peace of Mind,

I didn’t have to go through many of your posts before that particular one came to my attention. I am quite familiar with the reality of the unbridled power of the government, and it concerns me deeply when I see such passionate statements, as correct as they may be, written, as if metaphorically waving a red flag at a bull( the government). If action of that nature was taken by an inexperienced, but passionate reader, in that area of life, that reader would quickly find themselves powerless to continue the good life. I like to give readers, when such statements are made a balanced reality check. And again, I will repeat, no matter how correct the statements may be, it will not work in a courtroom because the odds are the Judge will not let it work since he will decide what evidence can be submitted. And as you are well aware, the system will first protect itself, before it will even look at anyone’s rights, or what is good and correct. It is just the nature of the beast, as well as human nature, unfortunately. Stay out of court; avoid it the best you can, is sage advice. The courts are corrupt; they don’t follow their own laws. They will destroy any person they choose to destroy, especially those waving red flags at the system.

But I congratulate you on your chosen life style. It is how I live, although, I go about my life quietly, and keep my own counsel. I don’t wave red flags at bulls. Nor would I ever encourage another to do so, as I have spent more time and money than I could afford helping those who thought that just because they had hard core evidence, just because the law was on their side, just because they were right, just because they were experets, they challenged the system; and the system ate them up.

People need to avoid the system the best they can. They need to live the life they choose, and they need to use common sense in doing so. They need to stay informed, and they need regular reality check on what they are doing as the laws have gotten starkingly invasive. My heart goes out to all those naïve humans who state so boldly that they have nothing to hide, and actually believing that they are innocent of all the hundred of thousands, perhaps millions of laws, rules and regulations, on the city, state, county, federal level, along with those of all the hundreds of agencies that many are not even aware of, until they innocently invite the wrong person into their affairs, or their home, or volunteer to talk to a cop. One small state can easily produces more then twenty-five thousand or more new laws very year. Do you know them all?

Talk to lawyers, off the record. Talk to cops off the record, they love people who have nothing to hide, so much easier to trap them on purpose or entangle them by an innocent stumble. Thinking one is so innocent has landed many in very vulnerable positions, where accidently stumbled upon infractions snowballed out of control for these people who had nothing to hide. Anyone who believes they have nothing to hide are like a chicken inviting the fox into the henhouse for tea. The problem is people who have nothing to hide, have no idea what they need to be hiding. There isn’t a person in America who isn’t breaking some law, or regulation several times a day; and the cops and lawyers know this. But so many people, especially the “ I have nothing to hide people” are just are unaware of this fact until their luck runs out by talking to the fox, or allowing the fox into the hen house, literally, or metaphorically by opening their life to them to be read like a book. Privacy is important for many reasons, but a big reason is to protect you from what you don’t know of that which can be used against you. Then again we also have crooked cops who love to plant evidence for whatever reason. Ever hear of being framed. “What you framed”? Hey, if you are that naïve, why wouldn’t you be picked to be a patsy if you are such an open book? Yes, the naïve human. Why are there so many of them?

As far as dying, I love the earth and plan on staying around for a long time. One can fight like the British soldiers of the Revolutionary War, all lined up making easy targets, or one can choose to be cleverer than that, and make more strength for freedom. I love that old saving about the meowing cat catches no mice.

But again, I congratulate you on not getting into debt, not falling for the sweet carrot of a credit card, retaining your independence by paying as you go, and collecting assets instead of debt. That type of living will go a long way in keeping humans free. But why did only a few deny the sweet carrot of the credit card, student loan, online banking, and everything else that made most humans slave and servant to the systems? Why do the majority of humans choose the carrot? And if they are ever lucky or smart enough to live as you do, if they have not learned their lesson, what will make the human smart enough to refuse the sweets carrots again? Most humans are looking for the white knight to make everything better for them. Some can’t wait until the financial crash happens, thinking it will free them. And if it does free them, how long will they remain free? Will they suddenly start managing their lives well and make good choices to keep themselves and the next generation free? I doubt it.

The revolutionary founders of America discussed the same issues of human nature. They were sure that what they all fought for, getting a government to acknowledge and secure inalienable rights, will be lost in a blink of an eye because of the sweet carrots offered to the many by the few. Humans always fall for carrots, latter if not sooner. Most humans can either be trapped or bought. History shows that to be true. How many humans on this forum can look in the mirror and honestly say that they live as you do? Or that they have learned their lessons, and if we ever get freedom back, that they will take daily action, and make choices to keep freedom their life style. But they won’t, because history always shows they don’t. The founders of America feared that America, like all republics, will only be as strong as its people. Did they have faith that suddenly human nature would change and have a different outcome than all the past had? I read that a republic’s greatest strength was its people, but people were also its greatest weakness.

Many humans today, may think saying “I love you” to everyone that they don’t even know is going to change the basic nature of humans? It won’t. Only managing one’s life well by making good choices will help create a life that can be free. The American founders thought people’s selfishness, their ambitions for power on at all costs, their avarice, and greed, their vanity, their laziness, their choice of not to think, but to follow the carrots would lead to the destruction of America as a Republic, and it did. Adams questioned. “whether there is public virtue enough to support a republic.”

The American founders gave us an honest monetary system. They worked with a concrete definition of what a dollar was to keep commerce honest. Yet, who in America today live by the principles’ of honest money, the best they can under a fiat system? Americans were not even able to keep the honest monetary system gifted to them, and sadly so many didn’t even know when the monetary switch was made. What choices did most Americans make, and continue to make by choosing credit cards, personal checks, debit cards, online banking etc etc? How will Americans make better choices now and in the future so that they can support freedom and the Republic? These are questions that humans will not answer. They will rationalize why they were forced into taking the carrots and make empty promises that when the crash comes, or if some white knight comes along and saves them, they all will make better choices, just like the perpetual dieter needing to lose thirty pounds makes the resolution on every News Years day to lose weight. How do you change human nature?

But these fears of human nature’s inability to keep their freedom, and not succumbing to the sweets carrots of entrapment, were not just discussed by the American founders, they were discussed by Aristole, who thought that the only hope for a republic was with agrarian people, because working the land of hard assets kept them more honest, then the world of commerce where a slight of hand was behind every transaction. It has been observed throughtout the ages that as a nation becomes more corrupt the more masters appear to control the masses. And how controlled are we, that we have no privacy to the point that they can feel up our genitals when we travel?

And who are the masters of today: homeland security, TSA, IRS, etc etc? A truly free society would never have given birth to those masters. Thomas Jefferson believed that only farmers should be elected to Congress because they were a true representative of the interest of the American people, not the bankers or false commercial interests.

He also believed that as long as a human had a piece of land to produce something on, that human would be free, and beholding to no one, as long as that human didn’t hold a mortgage. He wrote that “ The bank, was invented for the purpose of corruption” At least the ones based on the “rotten” British model?

Yet, society is enslaved by the banks using fraudulent practices that the majority of humans just accept to set up their own entrapment. It is nothing new that banks are corrupt by nature, especially when a fiat monetary system is allowed to function. And yet who on this forum has not supported or continues to support the beast of the banking system? And so many will respond but I can’t function withot the bank……..and so you entrapped yourself by eating the carrots they offered. You can only blame yourself for that. But human nature is lazy and greedy they didn’t have to offer much to entrap you did they?

If solutions are to be had on this forum, than human nature would have changed. It hasn’t changed in thousands of years. Most humans will not take responsibility. Most Humans will not manage their lives well. Most humans are greedy and have a price. Most humans do not live by basic morals to keep themselves free. Most humans will always take the carrot. They did so two thousand years ago. They do it today, and they will do it two thousand years from now. To the few who live with the basic principles of honest money. To those who have been clever enough, and ethical enough to say no to the sweet carrots, to those who do not have to work long hours and give the majority of their pay to the bank, the insurance company and the many monthly payments that most humans agreed to, what was it in your thinking, your perspective that allowed you to stay free while so many choose enslavement by not thinking or for convenience?

I have no solution for people being human. They were born with the mantle of human nature. Were they designed to have their greed and laziness always keep them in check to enslavement? Human nature chooses entertainment over work, gossip over intellectual or productive discussions, fantasy over reality, and the when push comes to shove, greed instead of doing what is right.

What solution is there, that hasn’t been written about for the last twenty years or more? Why do humans read the solutions but take no action in managing their lives towards freedom? Humans know what they have to do. But they choose not to do it. The system is going to crash, and it will be the survival of the fittest. And society will restart, and it may start at a level playing field, but human nature cannot support the virtue of freedom or a level playing field, they are innately designed to make choices to be slaves.

Of course, that is my humble opinion, along with the opinions of many others throughout history. What is my solution to this problem of human nature? Look in the mirror and strive to be a better person by making choices that do not entrap you. and if you a generous heart, does not entrap the next generation.

But human nature will not be discussed as the bottom line of the problem. Because human’s, in my opinion will want an easier solution to the mess they all contributed to.

The only hope we have for the good life for all is the next generation. But how can the present generation teach the next generation that which they themselves do not know, or understand? When the majority of people do not understand the fundamentals of what makes them free, it doesn’t look too good for the next generation. Let us hope Ron Paul wins. But even if he wins, can and will America be virtuous enough to support him?

Sincerely,

Mr. Davis

[Peace of Mind]

Encumbrance exemplifies focus…your depiction passionately displays this....

There is nothing to stop us but us. We run this system. We police it, put out its fires, maintain and administrate every part of it. There’s no real big boss… just a collective idea of one, and if so, why, let this madness happen at the hands of one, or even a few? If we all focus more on how to overcome these issues instead of rousing people to accept something they obviously don’t want…we will win, simply because we are the upholders of this society.

Our awareness is creeping upon us and the cold reality it brings will shock you awake if you’re a heavy sleeper. In these times…the age of information can be risky biz, discretion will benefit us all, and quality over quantity always serves well.

We are in the times where people are subconsciously and verbally saying enough is enough. The awakening may cause some grogginess, because it’s the budding of our potential, we are our best critics and know we can do better, we are realizing the corruption, our faults and fears…eagerly facing them like never before. Our compassion is rising, our anger more restricted. Women are growing balls and men growing ovaries…I once heard someone say…haha

At times…I wonder why we constantly deny our unique connections…which were purposely balanced and bonded with traits and gifts to beatify the canvass of our existence, superbly?

We are only waiting for us. When we really get our act together by trusting that we will play our parts, and keeping each other…no force can match that power. That power can only be defeated by turning it onto itself. Become a cancer. Divide and conquer has always been the tactical objective. Great defeats came by way of inside jobs…both benevolent and malevolent. My stance is clear; energy is precious and it shouldn’t be exhausted on hypocrisy. You will not see me here placing people in fear nor danger…. rather the opposite, actually.

We owe it to ourselves to be the best we can be, just do what will help…why waste the moment, and blame a phantom…or someone/s who may be more frightened then you?

Logically, slave or not…happy beings are productive beings. Slaving for a master who knows little about mastering… is a testament to the failures. Most revolts outline basic animal instincts (survival)….you got to eat, right?

Sooner or later we are going to cross this bridge…its best to approach it courageously and with as much wisdom as possible.

Let’s say Et came and met us all individually or in groups…what do you think they will think of us as a species? The privilege breaths we take should be returned with humility…and appreciation of this existence magnificence. There were many deaths and blood spilled for absolute sovereignty (the fight is still ongoing)…without it, one will rarely have the respect for responsibility…. or others. How can we.… when we blindly, ignore shame and acknowledgement of self and others? Our representation of self and as a divine entity needs to be polished if not rebuilt.

In any case, we all are becoming aware of the weight of this issue…. letting it crush us should not be an option…


Peace

[Carmody]

You are unlikely to find a single event that is polarizing enough to shift the balance--on it's own.

If a shift happens too fast, disaster will be the result. If a singular event or premise could present that scenario, then it's level of coloration would be too high and..disaster would be the result. Untoward skewing, it would be.

Like reality itself being broken up into nanometer sized bits of discrete differential, so to will the change be broken up into discrete bits.

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I find it odd that astrology has fallen into the realm of being a 'negative distraction', when it, in fact, it is the only thing, that I'm aware of... that an be externalized from the self that CLEARLY shows the entire package of reality itself in all it's manifestations. The problem comes when one is trying to explain that to people, for this same answer/question as a set piece is the same thing that people fail to discern in other areas. This, due to ultimate complexity of through required to navigate this 'answer'.


TO BE CLEAR:

I can transmute metals, i can create new alloys and materials that do not exist. I can make over unity devices, I can do things in science that few-to-none understand. I can astral project, and I can create and dissolve tulpas. I can communicate with people on the astral level.

And so on......



None of this is of any use, until people change.

I am not unique. It is all waiting in the wings. I've calculated that a minimum of about a few thousand people know, outside of black ops and controlled areas..how to transmute metals, ie to manipulate space/time at the particle/quantum level, and thus the mass aggregate level. 'Over unity' is a joke, once that sort of thing is a known quantity.

However, people...... must........ change. The barbarism has to go, before such things come into 'normal' existence. Otherwise the given failures of all ages past...... will be simply -- a repeat.

However, this -as statement alone- does indeed help, as the two things tend to arise -together. Awareness and ability come hand in hand.

the biggest problem of all, with regard to a universal 'flip' occurring... is the collective aspect of the fundamental of the human avatar being based on a monkey that cavorts in a herd mentality--as a basis in egoic premise.

this particular egoic premise is seemingly the HARDEST to defeat, so it has to be -and rightly so-.....treated on an individual basis---by the individual.

so, if you are out there and reading this and have not dealt with your ego, then yes you.....are the hold up. It really is that simple.

[Arrowwind]

I have had to stop telling people about Avalon,
because some claims are unhelpful to the public at large.


Tony

so you don't trust their discernment?

I'll agree with you on a lot of people.. but there are no "safe" venue's for information, the INSTANT you get "trusted" source you invite manipulation because "trusted" means your audience has let it's guard down and will swallow what ever you feed them.

I'm sure "fox news" watchers think what they are recieving is truth & they might not even question the bias...

I think I'm backing myself into a "Huxley vr Orwel" moment...

http://roamingthoughtsdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/huxleyvsorwell.jpg


Yes, Huxley and Orwell have it exactly right. Once we become controlled by what we fear and what we love there is no time to live a free live. We spend all of our days in fear and spreading it around on the media or trying to forget the fear by drowing oursleves in meaningless mind numbing voyerism.

This is when TPTB have won and control you.

We might do better to spend more time here sharing with each other just how we maintain our freedom

[Carmody]

Yes, Huxley and Orwell have it exactly right. Once we become controlled by what we fear and what we love there is no time to live a free live. We spend all of our days in fear and spreading it around on the media or trying to forget the fear by drowning ourselves in meaningless mind numbing voyeurism.

This is when TPTB have won and control you.

We might do better to spend more time here sharing with each other just how we maintain our freedom.

The ego is not the we, it is the singular and it is the body's interface and has nothing to do with the occupant inside. The occupant inside has not those levels of predilections and weaknesses.

The BODY possesses the weaknesses and colors the reality experience.

[Carmody]

You are unlikely to find a single event that is polarizing enough to shift the balance--on it's own.

If a shift happens too fast, disaster will be the result. If a singular event or premise could present that scenario, then it's level of coloration would be too high and..disaster would be the result. Untoward skewing, it would be.

Like reality itself being broken up into nanometer sized bits of discrete differential, so to will the change be broken up into discrete bits.

edit:

I find it odd that astrology has fallen into the realm of being a 'negative distraction', when it, in fact, it is the only thing, that I'm aware of... that an be externalized from the self that CLEARLY shows the entire package of reality itself in all it's manifestations. The problem comes when one is trying to explain that to people, for this same answer/question as a set piece is the same thing that people fail to discern in other areas. This, due to ultimate complexity of through required to navigate this 'answer'.


TO BE CLEAR:

I can transmute metals, i can create new alloys and materials that do not exist. I can make over unity devices, I can do things in science that few-to-none understand. I can astral project, and I can create and dissolve tulpas. I can communicate with people on the astral level.

And so on......



None of this is of any use, until people change.

I am not unique. It is all waiting in the wings. I've calculated that a minimum of about a few thousand people know, outside of black ops and controlled areas..how to transmute metals, ie to manipulate space/time at the particle/quantum level, and thus the mass aggregate level. 'Over unity' is a joke, once that sort of thing is a known quantity.

However, people...... must........ change. The barbarism has to go, before such things come into 'normal' existence. Otherwise the given failures of all ages past...... will be simply -- a repeat.

However, this -as statement alone- does indeed help, as the two things tend to arise -together. Awareness and ability come hand in hand.

the biggest problem of all, with regard to a universal 'flip' occurring... is the collective aspect of the fundamental of the human avatar being based on a monkey that cavorts in a herd mentality--as a basis in egoic premise.

this particular egoic premise is seemingly the HARDEST to defeat, so it has to be -and rightly so-.....treated on an individual basis---by the individual.

so, if you are out there and reading this and have not dealt with your ego, then yes you.....are the hold up. It really is that simple.

bump.

So....what are you folks going do do about this situation?

Me dashing myself up against the rocks serves no purpose. Same result as has always been.

I'd be dead.

As stated, I'm not unique. There are many.

There are Thousands of people who can make 'over unity' devices. Thousands.

However.....it is dangerous to attempt to do so in an environment where one would be killed.... and in an environment full of barbarism.

It's not up to me, It's up to you - I've done quite a bit already.

It's not surprising to me that if I say what I said.....that the thread dies off and everyone goes off and watches TV or something similar.

The mind, the ego... will do that to a person. Always. until you consciously realize it is happening. Then the tug of war begins between the true inhabitant and the machinations of the body/ego.

You gotta start somewhere folks...best be gettin' to it. :)

[TargeT]

You gotta start somewhere folks...best be gettin' to it. :)

I never call for action with out knowing of a solution, or course for that action to take.

I'm sure this is the case here as well, so... do you have a clear starting point for people who have not delt with their ego? I haven't, never in a direct way (so never at all). where do I start, I have read a lot of posts by you hinting at facing it but never anything spesific that I thought "I can do that myself" or "I can work on that".

"we" follow the hegelian dialectic, you're missing part of it ;)