My MIB Story

[shadowstalker]

Most of you may remember some of my story about the MIB encounters I had.
This is in Response to MrDaveArt's video MIB - Men In Black (real stories)
This video was done with text to speech, this is not my real voice as i can seem to deal with doing voice overs to well. enjoy let me know what you think.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sk5IgVqmlY

[crosby]

excellent shadowstalker. how frightening this must be for you. i truly hope that you don't have any more encounters with them.
warmest, corson

[shadowstalker]

excellent shadowstalker. how frightening this must be for you. i truly hope that you don't have any more encounters with them.
warmest, corson

It was scary when I realized what it was in 2007 but now that it is out there its not so bad.

[Flash]

May I, if you don't mind, ask you which are the abilities of yours and your family they wanted to disappear? And why sending MIBs, and not regular killing team?

[Unified Serenity]

Thanks for sharing SS. I hope your days are peaceful.

[shadowstalker]

May I, if you don't mind, ask you which are the abilities of yours and your family they wanted to disappear? And why sending MIBs, and not regular killing team?
I had asked that question and didnt get much of an answer,
I had asked him that but no answer at least not one worth repeating

[shadowstalker]

May I, if you don't mind, ask you which are the abilities of yours and your family they wanted to disappear? And why sending MIBs, and not regular killing team?
What do you consider regular killing team in this incident?
Sorry that just hit my curiosity button thinking on that past few hours on that..

[Roy Neary]

SS, thanks for sharing your story with us, it must be hard to re-live such a frightening encounter. Be safe out there!

[Flash]

May I, if you don't mind, ask you which are the abilities of yours and your family they wanted to disappear? And why sending MIBs, and not regular killing team?
What do you consider regular killing team in this incident?
Sorry that just hit my curiosity button thinking on that past few hours on that..

Kind of Duncan O'Finian ex-teams, regular (although not regular at all) clieaning teams instead of MIB

[shadowstalker]

May I, if you don't mind, ask you which are the abilities of yours and your family they wanted to disappear? And why sending MIBs, and not regular killing team?
What do you consider regular killing team in this incident?
Sorry that just hit my curiosity button thinking on that past few hours on that..

Kind of Duncan O'Finian ex-teams, regular (although not regular at all) clieaning teams instead of MIB
You would be right if it where that kinda training and if we where getting training from the gov, but to be quite honest I don't know who all was really involved let alone what we where really being taught.

All I know is that what or who ever tipped the MIB's where not happy pandas about what we where doing. And to this day my folks still refuse to give me details...

Tho I am still getting some of my gifts back since 2004 I am surprised that this MIB showed up in 2007 and only checking up on me or my children.

I still have tons of questions for my folks but i think that they think I am not ready for the answers, and believe me I still have lots of question marks over my head sort in all these thing.

[tonton]

Make a stand............(for some reason i feel i need to be direct,as if it were me............forgive me if im wrong)
I suppose you dont want to offend or frighten your folks ,but you are not 10 anymore,you have your own family and would most likely be older with more wisdom and experience in life than your parents had at the time of the first mib three day incident.............i would calmly insist, how can one clear the ghosts out of the cupboard if nobody lets you open the door.......if you are truly ready...open that door and prepare yourself with all that power you have ,all the infinite energy that you are and be ready to forgive,a real lot, because it sounds like that there is a lota pain there.your folks seem to have done what they did through fear or pain or shame or something else, but for them its big time.Im a firm believer that the truth may hurt worse than any lie or crime .but there is one thing that is worth it all.the truth gives you the reason why we hurt.we can heal hurt always,but only when we have the truth,because with truth we have the whys.when one understands why they are suffering, one can heal,one can strengthen and one can grow ,now freely. besso.

[shadowstalker]

I have made a few quiet stands but timing is what I need.
I am seriously thinking on doing a phone recording of my questions with him so that i don't loose what he has said to me and get it written down.
My mom has more fear then he does, so timing on when to speak with out my mom present tends to be an issue, As I have been present in other issues he doesn't speak on without my mother present.
I am also seriously considering on asking him to just write it down and just send it to me via snail mail or just have him send it to me after his death.

As a matter of fact for now I will just ask him on FB as my mom does not use the net...lol

[shadowstalker]

Ok no time like the present (again) here is the letter i sent to my dad via FB..

Gonna drop a bomb on ya,

Please tell me about the 3 day bout with the MIB's and why you think they really attacked, I am very curious and for me this is something that has stuck in me. I think I am old enough for this so plz let me know, with as much as you can tell me either that or snail mail me everything that happened...

And what you guys where teaching us that would have them go gaga over they family like that.

Ok so it might be scary, but still it is a part of my child hood that I am very curious about, and seeings how most of my gifts are coming back, then I feel I should know what's what.

I know you don't like to talk about this stuff with mom around and i understand so just send it here or in the mail..

Love ya
Jana

[tonton]

well done!

[Sesan]

Thanks for the vid Shadow. That took guts. I agree with you insisting on getting answers from your parents. Be really careful with Facebook. Watch your back. Keep me posted k.

[shadowstalker]

Thanks for the vid Shadow. That took guts. I agree with you insisting on getting answers from your parents. Be really careful with Facebook. Watch your back. Keep me posted k.
I promise i will keep everyone posted..:ranger:

[Sesan]

Stay safe my friend!

[jagman]

Sounds like what you encountered was most likely a J Rod. They have been known to work for the MIB, Atleast that's how the story goes.

[jessamy99]

Dear Shadowstalker,
What an amazing story, and how scared you must have been as children.
I agree you need to know the truth. I hope your father tells you.
Keep safe and keep in touch!
With love,
Jessamy.

[shadowstalker]

Dear Shadowstalker,
What an amazing story, and how scared you must have been as children.
I agree you need to know the truth. I hope your father tells you.
Keep safe and keep in touch!
With love,
Jessamy.
Well I sent on that letter i posted here, so I am hoping to get something worth reporting back soon..
Don't worry I really don't think anything will happen...Knock on wood..

[lelmaleh]

I wouldn't use facebook but well done, communicating with your dad. You need to know the story for own wholeness. Be safe and thank you. Hope your gifts continue to develop.
Loren

[shadowstalker]

I wouldn't use facebook but well done, communicating with your dad. You need to know the story for own wholeness. Be safe and thank you. Hope your gifts continue to develop.
Loren
Well I did give him the option with snail mail, tho i would much rather speak to him over the phone

[shadowstalker]

Does anyone else in the group have an MIB experience or am I the only one.
Anybody else want to tell there story?

[shadowstalker]

Got a responce from my dad from the letter i sent him on FB..

Adrian Hunter
Ok, but not here

My response:
kk just let me know when and how

I have never been so nervous about anything in my whole entire life

[Snoweagle]

Avoid the corporate media systems when discussing matters of concern. Certainly delete your FaceBook account as that is a spotlight on you and your family. (Or maintain only "normal" family stuff but nothing revealing). Private and sensitive matters would be better sent by regular mail or by family or friend couriers. Always consider having a plan B, for those little emergencies; having another option will boost your confidence.
With regard your families development, discuss with nobody; even here amongst us. We can only reassure and support you whilst you have a presence here. Please take care :-)

[Strat]

This is fascinating SS. Good luck and stay safe! Can we get a transcript of that video? I tend to process info better when I read it.

I gotta ask this question: Were the MIB physically intimidating? You said (I think) that last one had a limp/walked funny or whatever.

Maybe this sounds like a shallow or silly question but I think about this. I was a martial artist for years, and if a guy in all black is following me I imagine I would find out why, especially if he is of no physical threat.

EDIT: You're an author! I didn't know that! I read a book every 3 weeks so I'll be ordering from you eventually. Awesome!

[shadowstalker]

This is fascinating SS. Good luck and stay safe! Can we get a transcript of that video? I tend to process info better when I read it.

I gotta ask this question: Were the MIB physically intimidating? You said (I think) that last one had a limp/walked funny or whatever.

Maybe this sounds like a shallow or silly question but I think about this. I was a martial artist for years, and if a guy in all black is following me I imagine I would find out why, especially if he is of no physical threat.

EDIT: You're an author! I didn't know that! I read a book every 3 weeks so I'll be ordering from you eventually. Awesome!

Here is your transcript of the vid:


Hello fellow shadowstalkers.
This is a video responce to Mister Dave Art's video MIB Men in Black The real story
I had posted to him that I love the Men In Black stuff as I find it all fasinating
So he requested my story as it where,
So here it goes

in 1975
When I was 8 years old and living in pensilvania
My father and mother, older sister and younger brother where in our house when the men in black attact us,
This attac lasted an ongoing 3 days and 3 nights, they where not just there to herrass us but to kill us,
It was a battle I was told that had tramatized us all, so my father had erased our memories of the insident,
he did the hipnosis procedure to a point that we would forget those three days and what we had been taught threw out our then child hood of our gifts and other teachings.


It wasnt untill april 2005 when I had a friend of mine help me move to texas from massuchusets, I wanted him to meet my folks and chat before moving threw to texas. my folks lived in connecticut so it wouldnt be much for waisted time,
It was that night that I had learned of the story I had just told you all in this video and other things not spoken about in this video, My parents dont speek on the lines of men in black or atlantis unless there is another ex atlantian around, apparently my then friend was an ex atlantian so they told us what had happened, They also told us the reason why they never mentioned atlantis much or the men in black, it was because of the little war we had encountered back then, they where afriad that if they had mentioned it again or anything to that affect that they would be attact or others in the family would be attact. I was 38 years old when my parents had told me this. 30 years after the men in black attact

In summer of 2007 I was 40 years old then, I was sitting on my husbans car and doing some thinking at night, I was about to get myself ready for bed and go inside when I saw a person in front of our house in the street right under the street lamp not 20 feet from me
he was moving slowly and lloked like he was having trouble walking, he lloked like he was shuffling his feet, he wore black pants like genes and a black jacket and a black baseball cap, I didnt pay that much attention to him so i turned and walk to go inside my house but then something inside me said to look back, so i looked back he was gone from my site, it wasnt even 5 seconds before he dissapered, I went to go search for him but to no avail he could not had gone very far with the way he was walking, I could not find him anywhere, then it hit me could this had been a man in black?

I had called my father a day or 2 later and told him what happened and asked him if it was a man in black, he said yes. I had asked him why the man in black was not wearing the suit and fedora and he told me that they must be trying to fit into the times.
I had asked him why the man in black had not attact me as I had been getting back some of my gifts and that my kids had the gifts as well, he said that sometimes they are just there to observe and that i should be carefull.

I had asked my father why they had attact when I was 8 and he said that sometimes they attac families who are gifted and no to much and certain things about the past and the future and they dont want anybody to know these things let alone work on them.
I had also asked him what kind of beings are they and he said that most of them are interfazic and interdemmensional, I had asked them How we defeated them when I was 8 but i got no answer to that, I had asked him what he and my mother was teaching us to have the M I B attac us back then , I got no answer to that as well. only that they where helping us excel in our then gifts and knowledge, perhaps that in itself was the answer, i am still not sure.

So that is the story that most folks have been waiting for about part of my life, It sometimes makes me feel slightly off when I talk about this kind of stuff but it is better to talk about it then to let it control ones self and b afraid like the M I B want me to b, i will not let them have that and control me anymore then thay had with me and my family,


Thank you for listenning to part of my life, be well and safe my friends much love to you all

[Turcurulin]

Does anyone else in the group have an MIB experience or am I the only one.
Anybody else want to tell there story?

Hi shadowstalker,

Thank you for the thread and for sharing your experience. Yes, I've also had an experience with MiB in August 2006. I was originally directed to this thread, and inspired to post my own story, by mojo's post here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41977-Mib).

It was a wrong place/wrong time (or right place/right time) sort of random occurrence. I went on a trip to the West-Coast (US) with 2 close friends of mine. The encounter happened on the return trip. We'd pulled off onto a 'nature preserve' on Bureau of Land Management turf, just outside of Mountain Home, Idaho.

We were famished and hurriedly set-up the camp-stove as dusk was settling around us. While supping, I tilted back my head to drink and to reveal the third of the eight UFO's that I've seen (but still my most intense sighting of all.) The craft was only about 200 to 300 feet above us and had all of the symptoms of a black-technology craft (which, at that time, I was not familiar with what the symptoms of different types of UFOs were. This was most definitely a gov't-issue craft, however.) It was a black triangle. It looked just like this photo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/album.php?albumid=93&attachmentid=2316) from Avalon member Hiram.

(Note - In the thread where this is originally posted, Bill Ryan had someone examine the photo who said that it was almost assuredly photo-shopped. However, when I saw this photo my jaw dropped - it is a highly similar body-style to the vehicle that I saw. Also, I do not think that the craft from my sighting was the TR-3B. From what I've seen, the TR-3B is more of a uniform shape on all sides - an almost flat triangle with three identical, round lights in each corner and one in the middle.

The craft that I saw, which I believe to be the Aurora, was more bulky in the back-side and tapered down to the front. The lights on the under-carriage were square and there was a massive spotlight under the nose which projected hundreds of feet out in front of the craft as it flew. There was no visible wings or tail section, but had a single 'dorsal fin'.)

It flew over very slowly at first and was utterly silent. I couldn't say anything to my friends at first - I was mesmerized. It flew away so quickly that I was unable to visually follow the trajectory of the craft upon its acceleration. All I could say after that was "Did you see that?" My friends had not, but were excitedly expressing having sensed something just fly over. My one of friends asked me to explain what I saw. Just before I could, within 30-40 seconds of the first fly-over, he points upward, "There it is!"

It took the same flight path with the same initial, impossibly slow, speed. Again, there was no sound from the craft. When it got about one hundred yards out from our location, it accelerated, in a half of a second, to thousands of kilometers-per-hour. I say 'accelerated' loosely here because there was no build-up of speed. It was traveling just faster than a still hover, and then POOF - it was out of sight. There was no sonic-boom. We watched it turn into a little ball of light as it dashed off in the distance, to what I now know to be Mountain Home AFB (17 kilometers SW of Mountain Home, ID and approx. 24.5 kilometers SW of our location.) It covered the distance in no more than 1-2 seconds, and proceeded to perform impossible acrobatic maneuvers over the sky of the AFB. The pilot traced out shapes of circles, triangles, and rectangles in the sky with no deceleration. And he would zig-zag the craft back-and-forth, from one end of the AFB to the other while maintaining these incredible speeds, like it was being hit by two giant, invisible ping-pong paddles. Then the craft disappeared into the distant lights below.

We were very hyped-up at this point. We were exchanging high-fives and exclamations on how great it was, when the craft (or another craft of the same make) flew over for a third time. The whole process occurred like the second fly over. But, when the craft landed in the distance, we were no longer so enthusiastic. It seemed to occur us all at the same time that we were seeing something that someone else would probably not want us to be seeing. We all exchanged a glance of concern then and I expressed that I thought we were in the middle of a covert gov't test-flight (a theory which I maintain.) To which my friend replies, "Yeah, let's get the f*ck out-a-here!"

As we hurriedly packed-up (our initial intention was to camp there for the night,) we sensed, but did not see, a fourth fly-over. We'd just closed the hatch of the truck, when we heard an engine revving in the 'preserve' adjacent to the one we were on. I turned my head to see the headlights of a sedan (four square lights like an 80's Crown Victoria or Oldsmobile) driving right toward us. Now, we had been totally alone up to this point. In this rural part of Idaho, we had seen little to no traffic when finding camp and had already observed that no-one had been in the surrounding fields when we arrived at the brightest part of dusk. If anyone would have driven into the area after us (a couple of miles at least from any main road,) then we would have seen their headlights or heard the engine upon entry (one can see very far in all directions when in, almost all places of, the mid-west USA.)

My first thought was, "Why would you be driving a sedan out here?" My second thought was that they were driving too fast. They were rapidly approaching us and did not slow down, despite the fact that the respective fields that we were in were separated by barbed-wire fencing. I then thought, "They're going to drive right through the fence!" My other friend said, "What are they doing?" For a while after that, my next memory would be of a sudden, instantaneous white-flash that I've likened to 'seeing stars' or a split-second flash of analog-signal TV-fuzz. And then at the last utmost second, the car veers away from and drives along the fence at the same blistering pace.

We all got into the car and drove away. One of my friends asked how it could be as late as it was and I noted how dark it had seemed to become (there was now a fully black sky, where there had been the last tinges of dusk only seconds before.) After we all confirmed that we couldn't account for 30 to 45 minutes, we didn't talk much again about our experience on the rest of the return trip.

Almost immediately after that and in the years to follow, I began, completely unintentionally, surfacing repressed memories. It was fairly startling and inexplicable - then, I began making an effort to recover my all of my memories since birth. I noticed that thinking about the above UFO sighting was very mentally agitating. And, the harder that I thought about it, the LESS clear the events became in my mind. The white-flash, which was becoming a growing concern of mine, would actually put me in an emotional state of irritation and give me headaches when I thought about it too hard/for too long (and still does, I'm expecting one to come-on strong during/after this post.) Then, in November of last year, I was thinking on the white-flash and felt like I was hit by a ton of bricks.

I have in my mind, what I can only describe as a 'double memory.' Right at that point in my memory, when I think the car must inevitably break-through the barbed-wire fence and then (in a professional maneuver) turns out of the way just in time, there is a break. And, I remember (pressure in my ears building right now) that the car did not turn and actually drove through the fence. This maybe the hardest claim for the skeptic to accept thus far - but I didn't say 'broke-through,' I said DROVE THROUGH. The car and the fence were both perfectly intact as the partition was crossed without a breach or crash of any kind!

I've found this in subsequent research -

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All of the memories of this event, that I have from here until we leave the area, are in consecutive 'still pictures' that are all coinciding/overlapping with the memory of the sedan turning away at the last moment. But, this is what I've pieced together (so far [I'm still remembering.]) The black sedan (it really could have been an 89 Crown Vic, but I couldn't get too good of a look because they had their headlights bearing down on us) came to a sliding halt about 10 feet away from my friend's truck. Two men wearing black-suits exited the vehicle. The driver approached us. He was bald, but had rim of white hair around the sides and back of his head, and wore a thin, black tie. He had no identifying marks on his suit. The passenger stayed just behind the shine of the headlights, but I could see from his outline that he had on a fedora and assumed that the rest of his garb was identical to his partner's. The driver was most certainly an earth-born human. But I can say that, without seeing him, I sense that at the time I had a very eerie, uneasy feeling about the passenger. The driver spoke to us, but I'm having the hardest time remembering what was said and what the driver's facial features looked-like. I think that focusing on remembering these things is preventing me from remembering anything further. All I can remember after that is the sedan veering out of the way of the fence at the last moment.

However, I do recall that my friend, in one of the few and short conversations that we had on the trip home, said something to me that stuck out. When talking about how we could have possibly gotten in 'big trouble' (this is before I remembered anything but a white-flash,) my friend said something to the effect of - "They could say anything to the news if they wanted to get rid of us. 'They fell in a hole or drove off of a cliff.'" When I saw the video from mojo's post, where the guy is in the desert claims that the MiB said something of that same nature, I nearly sh*t my pants. :jaw:

Theories -

There is a DUMB East/Northeast of Mountain Home and North of Hammet in Idaho on BLM property. It is connected to the Mountain Home Air Force Base. This DUMB houses Aurora and/or other black-technology aircraft. That fateful night, they were running tests on said aircraft to which we were witnessed. The pilot (or one of three or four possible pilots) reported our location to their command. An envoy was sent to investigate and surfaced from an underground entrance/exit next to our location (which is why we didn't see them enter from the road.) The MiB interrogated us and then wiped our memories of the event, somehow. Whatever they did to my mind actually triggered a reaction that began surfacing my repressed memories. :spy:

Between my general lack of time on the forum, and the above mentioned irritations, I've made several failed attempts to post this somewhere before. So this is actually the short version. If anyone's got questions feel free to PM me or quote me here.

[shadowstalker]

@ Turcurulin
I read more later as I am watching youtube with my son

[shadowstalker]

@ Turcurulin
I have seen some incredible things in my time including military jets chasing ufo's and all that stuff but never did i have the two combined..

[mojo]

Thanks shadowstalker and Turcurlin for sharing your personal stories. According to Nick Redfern men dressed in dark suits have consistently attempted to silence the witnesses of UFO and paranormal phenomena since the 1950s.

MSSuVB-3q94

[Turcurulin]

@ Turcurulin
I have seen some incredible things in my time including military jets chasing ufo's and all that stuff but never did i have the two combined..

It was pretty intense, to say the least. I don't think I'd have encountered the MiB if it weren't for seeing the UFO. (Right place at the right time)

Thanks for the video, mojo. I think that the Earthling and ET/ED factions of this group definitely are interconnected and work together. There have been many different circumstances to reported MiB encounters - anything sighted from a single operative to a group of several. One has to take into account the extreme compartmentalization of covert-ops as well as the possibility of differing agendas between the factions, but, based on my own experience, I have a theory that it isn't uncommon for pairs of MiB to be comprised of one Earthling and one ET/ED when on specific missions.

[Realeyes]

Hi Shadowalker, (and Avalonions),

Thank you so much for sharing your experience, I do so hope you find the answers you are looking for. I highly suspect there is a connection to E.T.’s or UFO’s that brought the MIB to your home.

Shadowalker, your courage has prompted and encouraged me to share some of my experiences with the MIB that I normally keep buried out of sight. My encounters although experienced in the Astral Realms, still involve the MIB that might be useful, as it allowed me to study their psyche and nature.

In the mid 1970’s, I was a bubbly 8 year old, loved building camps in the wood, my favourite entertainment at the time was reading Enid Blyton books such as The Famous Five and the Magic Faraway Tree and Worzel Gummidge, Tiswas and Blue Peter shows on TV. So my environment did not reflect or influence the onslaught I was about to encounter.

Upon reflection, I suspect I went on the MIB radar around 1976-1977 when I suddenly awoke one morning with a Soul remembrance of my origins and real family; shortly after this awakening I had my first UFO encounter and discovered intuitively the beginnings of how to Astral Travel.

Then I started having night terrors that deeply disturbed my mother who had to wake me up as I would be frantically running in my bed and screaming loudly desperately trying to escape ‘something’; unfortunately I had zero recall of what was terrorising me upon the moment of being woken.

Around 1983 I was now a young teenager, it was then that I started to have recalls after these night terrors happened, which always involved strange men smartly dressed in black suits. They were always perfectly dressed in tailored black suits with a spotless white shirt and black tie. Everything was immaculate in their appearance with short cut hair, clean shaven, a blemish free face that was always expressionless.

I had no idea ‘who’ these men were, yet they had the ability to ‘pop’ into any dream state I was in – no dream, regardless how happy it was, was safe. When they suddenly ‘materialised’ I would instantly get a sunken foreboding feeling in the pit of my stomach before I spotted them; this 6th sense told me they were here and it was time to RUN FOR MY LIFE!

Curiously, they never ran after me, they didn’t need to, it was like a cat and mouse scenario where the cat knew every move I was going to make before I even thought of what I was going to do. So I would run and run and run, eventually finding what I thought was a perfect hiding place. Then they would casually materialise over my crouched self; but it wasn’t like they materialised like in Star Trek ‘beam me up Scotty’ scenario, it was like they unfolded the atmosphere like walking through an invisible curtain, or made a hole in it to simply walk in from somewhere else, another dimension invisible to my eyes.

Anyway, once they were standing over me in my hiding place, they would immobilise my body with their minds, terrorise me in my mind, and then kill me. The death scenarios were always different, but their terror pattern was the same agenda where death ended the experience/dream. It took a number of many dreadful experiences before I realised they had the ability to ‘jumped space-time’ – there seemed to be no escaping them.

I flicked through my mother’s dictionary dream books, but could not find an answer even close to these strange nightmares; it was down to me to discover how to stop them. These encounters would happen spontaneously one or two times a month, I never knew when until it happened, so it was hard to prepare myself. My first lesson was to overcome the overwhelming survival instinct of running the hell away; staying put allowed me to study their nature.

They normally arrived in a group of 8 – 10 men, occasionally more if I was being troublesome. Each of these men had different pristine clean features, yet I also got the feeling of a hive mentality about them. They never spoke to me with their mouths, or via telepathy. If I ran off, they would do a curious thing; instead of following my movements watching where I was heading, they would each tilt their heads slightly in silence – this I thought at first was them communicating with each other via telepathy.

I eventually threw this theory out when on one such occasion I decided to boldly confront one of them face to face. I screamed at him telepathically, our noses almost touching as I stared directly into his cold emotionless eyes. He remained totally non-responsive as I carried on screaming; it was then still staring deeply into his eyes that I suddenly realised he was soulless – void of living consciousness - no one was home. This took my breath away as I glanced at the rest of the men, who also stood there motionless – they were some type of robot! WTF???? This was so outside my level of understanding and knowledge; any thoughts I may have had of reasoning with them was now completely out of the question.

I had no choice but to become a great deal braver, where I would now do things they did not expect me to do. This was interesting, because when I was kicking off in their faces demanding to know their names, who they were, what was their interest in me etc, they would sometimes go into a sort of blank state, motionless as if they had not been programmed as to how to respond to my demands. Maybe a couple of seconds would pass, and then suddenly they would go into action, as if they had now all instantly received further instructions of how to deal with my unforeseen response. This taught me that ‘something else’, an outside ‘intelligence’ of sorts, elsewhere not in this dimension I was experiencing, was controlling the actions of these men/robots/holographic projections -‘whatever they were’.

Now that I was aware of this, my next and most important task was to stop these events from occurring, as up until now, each meeting still ended with the scenario of my death. My observations now turned to the environment/dimension I would find myself in. I worked on my conscious awareness, reminding myself I was in a ‘dream’ in the Astral Realm, it wasn’t ‘real’ and learnt how to become ‘lucid’ and in ‘control’ of myself. I had not at that time learnt how to wake myself out of it back into the physical body; this came many years later.

Remembering this was a ‘dream’ in the Astral meant I was not confined to ‘gravity’. I started the slow process of learning how to fly, which at first was rather cumbersome, as I waved and pushed my arms through the atmosphere that allowed me to lift up and levitate. Learning to fly was slow because I was battling with my Earthly physical beliefs systems and perceptions that stated flight was not possible; also learning to do this under extreme stress while the MIB were grabbing my feet didn’t help. Fortunately my perseverance finally paid off, and I learnt how to not only fly in my Astral body, but move into the greater conscious state of becoming the ‘orb’ that had abilities to whizz off immediately. It was this ability that finally stopped the MIB experiences, because they could not fly – they did not show any ability to become a conscious orb! At last, in this realm, I now had the upper hand; the mouse had learnt to outwit the cat.

Life returned back to a sort of human normality, getting a job, becoming a mum etc, with those night terrors buried away as some ‘childish overactive imagination’ as my mother would call it.

In 1998 I visited Egypt; suddenly I was placed on ‘their’ radar again where I encountered in Physical reality as well as the Astral realms heavy duty life threatening psychic attacks. The milder attacks were coming from an American female Remote Viewer that was following instructions by men dressed in smart tailored black suits who stood behind hidden mirrors (I could see you).

I am actually feeling quite unwell in myself writing all this down, so I will not go into detail about this second onslaught that was more sophisticated, yet suffice to say, I learnt the following: ‘They’, whoever ‘they’ were, knew how to somehow track anyone regardless of how many different reincarnated bodies we had walked in or Timelines. More worryingly, ‘they’ had found the technology/ability to put a Soul in ‘stasis’, a type of holding point in a lower Astral dimension putting the Soul on ‘pause’ – a prisoner; the physical body would instantly die but the Soul was stuck, unable to reincarnate until released. This utterly terrified me as they almost succeeded.

I would never have believed such a thing as placing a ‘Soul in stasis’ was ever possible had I not experienced this attempt on myself. At the time I only believed in the concept of ‘Love and Light’ – I was totally unprepared and lacking in knowledge to face the dark life threatening stuff that was hurling towards me. Thankfully, my intuition, inner knowingness and inner guidance got me through this. I ‘saved myself’ in the height of dying by directing my consciousness, focus and thoughts towards ‘Self Love and appreciation’, connecting to my Spirit and celebrating All Life – it was a higher frequency vibration above and beyond the psychic attack realm – this basically saved my life.

It was when the first Matrix movie was released in 1999 with the concept of ‘Mr Smith’ that those dark nightmares could no longer be ignored; Mr Smith’s android nature was so similar to what I had encountered and discovered all by myself in my teenage years. I was horrified, haunted, filled with unanswered mind boggling questions and knew not of where to go to find such answers.

Well like most of us here on this forum, my journey and questions brought me to Project Camelot and Avalon listening to the many interviews and understanding I was not mad or alone; such things did exist, manipulating and controlling this matrix holographic reality.

Upon joining the Avalon Forum a little over a year ago, was at the time ‘HeatherJAnderson’ reappeared on the forum. It soon became clear that ‘Heather’ was not ‘Heather’, but a group of people possibly from the shadow community peering in when ‘Atticus/Charles’ was on the scene. I plucked up the courage to jump into the fire and ask some burning questions. Seeing as this person was later booted off this forum due to them being an imposter, I hope it is okay to paste a little of their reply – if not, moderators please delete where appropriate. I have included it here purely to help myself and others maybe understand what has been happening so we can heal these traumas, and more importantly empower ourselves to stop it. Smile.

N.B. I do not have the knowledge base to know whether there is truth to these answers or not – yet was most thankful that I at least received a reply from ‘Heather’.

My Question:-
(1) What technology do ‘they’ use to track people throughout their different incarnations? Is this some type of A.I. machine that can track an individual’s ‘soul/spirit’ frequency or is it via DNA or Morphogenic Fields?

‘Heather’ Answer:
(1) “They use cell memory from DNA. So called junk DNA is actually not junk at all, one can consider it a thread to a previous life or time line, one of the aspects to recall is activating certain DNA fragments. So tracking people is easy, if you know who that person is. But due to banks of data they know who your father and grandfather and so on was. This is assuming you are relevant to their needs. A certain amount of logistical math is used to randomize the child’s location. The right bloodline does not indicate the right person will be born into a family.”

My Question:
(2) Once ‘they’ have the individual pinpointed in the Grid, is this how ‘they’ do physic attack, plant false or scrambled memories, insert distractions, distort perception etc. What can one do to go ‘off radar’ to this kind of tracking? Living geographically in different countries etc makes no difference. How does one fully protect oneself when asleep and off guard?

‘Heather’ Answer:-
(2) “Nothing is ever that simple, if you are pinpointed then you will be followed and looked into; this resource makes sure that later resources are not wasted if you are following the right path, their path. Attacks usually come from fringe sources and in line of work the field agents would use people like you as practice.”

Unfortunately ‘Heather’s’ account was deleted before I could pose further questions as the replies I received did not answer all that I was asking. So I am still filled with questions, and if Duncan O’Finioan or someone else with such knowledge just so happens to read this thread, and is impeccable and honest in their heart to help unravel these traumatic events I would really appreciate it. I sure feel like a fish out of water at times and it isn’t nice.

I also am aware there are many ‘unseen eyes’ that watch this forum and I may have just taken a step too far in what I have shared – I hope not. This can be a very scary game of Chess and I wouldn’t call myself a chess player, I struggle with playing drafts. Black helicopters are a regular occurrence this end, something that my friends who do not understand find funny. Also the black triangular secret black opps UFO craft has been seen over my house twice by a neighbour who does not believe in UFO’s!

I do apologise for the length, I felt it was important to write as much detail down as possible, although it has been most uncomfortable this end to do so. I also understand that the other two brave people on this thread that shared their accounts were physical in this reality seeing/encountering MIB and that most of mine was in the Astral; yet I personally feel there is a connection and are one and the same.

Curiously, the MIB I met in my recall did not wear hats or sunglasses – maybe this was because it was in another dimension? Also, because my experiences were in the Astral rather than the physical, it allowed me to explore deeper into their psyche and nature; something I don’t think I would have had the balls to do in the physical – well, not yet.....

It has taken me two days to write the above and I’m feeling rather drained now, I did not sleep easy last night digging all these memories up to the surface again. If you are now reading this, it means I finally plucked up the courage to post it.

I do so truly want to understand....

[shadowstalker]

@ Realeyes
I will read more later, I only got to the second paragraph But I am glad that I and others have been able to help you make a conscious choice in telling your story to others, Know that you are strong and you are truly helping others, I know you and other who are now coming out of the wood-works to tell there stories are helping me and I am truly grateful..

[Seikou-Kishi]

I can't remember if I've told my experiences on the forum before. I don't really want to annoy everybody by double posting lol.

[shadowstalker]

@ Realeyes
Your encounters are incredible and heart stopping.
Makes me wonder about half of my sleep paralyses dreams Before age of 8 yrs old.
All I remember is that I would seem to wake up in what seemed to be in my room but on the floor. The room would always be dark but not my room, every time i would try to move it would hurt and I would still not be able to move and sometimes not breath well and it would feel like electricity go threw my body, I would also always see bugs all around me. (mind games I suppose)..

After age of 8, i would not have the dreams again, but instead I would see in the back of my head a male figure behind me and grab me, always around my chest, each time I would try to break free it would hurt, and feel like electricity go threw my body, this would continue till I was twenty or so yrs old, after that it would only happen every few yrs. Almost like in a cycle, like it was meant to be a timed event...

I thought that the events had stopped when i moved to Texas, but no, they did not.
The last event was more intriguing to say the least it was also the same yr I last saw the MIB, (the observer) (2007) in this case I was fully awake trying to sleep in my car port as it was an awesome night and I wanted some fresh air, not 5 minutes after getting cozy I saw in the back of my head a dark shadow of a man. he stepped closer and i told myself I am strong and then proceeded to test the boundaries,, he grabbed me from behind and he nearly took me out of body, I felt the same electricity I always felt. and him grabbing me was so tight I could barely breath. Each time i moved he would bind tighter each time i tried to breath he would bind tighter again. I told this being that he could take me but that he needs to remember what I am truly capable of, not long after that he let go. I saw him again in the back of my head as he stuck around for a few minutes, then he left.. A few weeks later is when i saw the MIB..

Thank you Realeyes for helping me remember the other possibilities that maybe connected to other possible MIB events.. It helped me a lot.

REMEMBER Realeyes you are always stronger when you talk about things sometimes and no you are not alone, you are with family here.

[bluestflame]

as i discovered when doing some work on myself removing some energetic blocks in me "week awake" whenever we unveil and reveal / release old energies trapped or blocked , when we go delving , energetically other groups and individuals that had a role to play or were involved on some level sense it energetically and if they have things they don't want to come to the "light of day" they will attack

for instance the truth of camelot and avalon in essence , much of which had been deliberately twisted and obscured to prevent its revival , and to prevent people making the energetic connection

it also has the effect when clearing energetic blockages that ones that work against humanity while in this life to some extent limited in awareness, also regain memories and abilities , past life "gifts"

there was a time when when psi abilities were much more physically tangible in effect , all the "kinesises" ie pyro, tele, psycho etc were second nature


mass trauma in history put a lot of these gifts and abiliies "offline" many that have worked lifetimes to clear thier own ancestral traumas have assisted many more that they are aware to heal these in many cases shared pasts

when the dark ones attack us the old adage " the stone you place upon the path of another you place a boulder on your own path " sorta explains what happens to them when they attempt to overload our energetic "circuits" with destructive energy , they lose a part of thier own awareness

[Realeyes]

Here is a ‘modern’ day MIB story I was told that occurred in the UK in the Forest of Dean area around 2004. (I was told shortly after this happened but I never wrote the date down or the place name – so sorry to be vague – I regret not taking notes now).

At the time, I knew someone who rented an old English farmhouse as a second home in a small English Hamlet in the Forest of Dean area that was used for family weekends and holidays throughout the year. Due to important family engagements, the family was unable to go on the weekend when something very BIG happened in the hamlet – thank god.

It was during the night when a UFO (unidentified as to ‘whose’) crashed in a nearby field to this Hamlet. Some of the locals were still up and witnessed it. But before any of the witnesses could go and investigate the crash scene, everywhere became a buzz with military immediately closing off a vast area around the event.

As you can imagine, there was a lot of activity in this normally sleepy quiet Hamlet.

More men turned up but these were not military, they were wearing casual civilian clothing such as jeans, shirt with a sweatshirt over the top and a casual jacket. They began to ask questions to the witnesses taking down their names and address’ etc.

By the time dawn rose, whatever had crashed in the neighbouring field had been removed by the military.

That morning, the men dressed in casual clothing returned, now knocking on doors to further question the witnesses of the event. An old gentleman dressed in a smart black suit conducted the interview with each witness; family members and friends were not allowed to be present.

This gentleman had an unusual walking stick; the top of the handle was shaped/carved into a perfect shaped miniature head. One witness remembers being quite fascinated with this walking stick handle, and even went as far to say the miniature head came alive like a real living head and began to speak – then there was a flash – and nothing remembered after that, not even the incredible ‘event’ he had witnessed the night before.

This elderly gentlemen dressed in an old style black suit with the ‘stick’, interviewed all the witnesses of this ‘event’ – after the interviews none of the witnesses had any memory of such an event even taking place the night before. The story now only remains in the memory of family and friends who the witnesses told prior to being interviewed by the old man.

Well that was what I was told by someone who does not mess around or tell lies. It never hit the local news as far a I know – surprise, surprise.

I thought it might be useful posting this strange story told to me, as it places the MIB nowadays having modernised, and blending in better with their clothing style – that is except the old man who was obviously ‘old school’. I know the miniature head on a stick sounds a little crazing, but maybe it was holographic or hypnotic? Who knows.... yet it is important to understand the witnesses were simple country folk, just the concept of a UFO actually ‘existing’ was far stretching their thinking. Yet the ‘flash’ that preceded it doesn’t sound that crazy, nor all the witnesses suddenly having no memory of such an event taking place.

I wanted to follow this story up at the time, but was told to leave it –so I did. This is all I know.

[shadowstalker]

I thought it might be useful posting this strange story told to me, as it places the MIB nowadays having modernised, and blending in better with their clothing style –

If that is true then it confirms what my father has said about the MIB keeping up with the times.

[red_rose]

I can't remember if I've told my experiences on the forum before. I don't really want to annoy everybody by double posting lol.

Hey, I'd like to hear your story. :)

[red_rose]

@realeyes

around 1976-1977 when I suddenly awoke one morning with a Soul remembrance of my origins and real family;

Could you tell us more about this, if it's okay with you. It's fascinating. You remembering may trigger others.

in love

red_rose

[shadowstalker]

@realeyes

around 1976-1977 when I suddenly awoke one morning with a Soul remembrance of my origins and real family;

Could you tell us more about this, if it's okay with you. It's fascinating. You remembering may trigger others.

in love

red_rose
Very true anything can trigger anything from the past, and in some cases help bring on more understanding of others and self

[Realeyes]

I haven't got time to reply right now - so will return to this post tomorrow. smile

[aranuk]

Hi SS, has your dad got back to you yet? Keep well dearest.

Stan

[red_rose]

I haven't got time to reply right now - so will return to this post tomorrow. smile

I look forward to it.

much love

red_rose

[shadowstalker]

Hi SS, has your dad got back to you yet? Keep well dearest.

Stan
Sorry to say but no not yet
It has to do with timing and the like as my mother is not to crazy about talking about them so he has to find the right place and so on.
He has pre-pay phone so that's not a good idea money wise. I wish he would just right it all down and snail mail..

[red_rose]

Hi SS, has your dad got back to you yet? Keep well dearest.

Stan
Sorry to say but no not yet
It has to do with timing and the like as my mother is not to crazy about talking about them so he has to find the right place and so on.
He has pre-pay phone so that's not a good idea money wise. I wish he would just right it all down and snail mail..

Do you live near you Dad. If you do, maybe you could both go out for dinner for a bit of Father/Daughter quality time?

[shadowstalker]

Hi SS, has your dad got back to you yet? Keep well dearest.

Stan
Sorry to say but no not yet
It has to do with timing and the like as my mother is not to crazy about talking about them so he has to find the right place and so on.
He has pre-pay phone so that's not a good idea money wise. I wish he would just right it all down and snail mail..

Do you live near you Dad. If you do, maybe you could both go out for dinner for a bit of Father/Daughter quality time?

He lives in Conn. i live in Texas, but i have been trying my best to move back up there as my mother misses me very much, the other reason why i want to move back is sometimes my mom slips and send me tidbits about my past hehehe I love it when she does that as it tells me she is not always afraid of here surroundings (I.E. the MIB's) in that moment in time.

[Seikou-Kishi]

I can't remember if I've told my experiences on the forum before. I don't really want to annoy everybody by double posting lol.

Hey, I'd like to hear your story. :)

Thanks :-)

Well, I was very young. I would say I was around ten and I'd finally convinced my parents to let me stay home when they went out. (As a child, I was very prone to "travel-sickness", but I actually think it was some sort of anxiety about cars because I couldn't even sit in one without feeling ill. Actually, when I was a child I couldn't even stand near one. So yeah I pretty much hated going in the car and I had managed to convince my parents to leave me at home when everybody else went out.)

Now the house at that side is pretty closed in to form a driveway with a wall on the other side so that even if we don't put the cars in the garage they're not so exposed to the weather. So yeah the driveway is long and (relatively) narrow and closed in at that end to form like a dead-end passage. I looked out of the window and as I did I saw a car drive past the window. My parents had gone out like 30 seconds before so I wondered if it was them. It was pretty weird because I could see the bottom of the car but it had no top at all. It was as though it was night and only the bottom half was visible because the rest was in shadow (but it was actually about noon and my parents had just left).

I didn't think anything of the car at first but I turned my head to follow it as it went down the driveway. Anyway, when I looked left down towards the end of the driveway, what I took to be headlights were pointing back down the driveway. Now the car had driven in (not reversed) and now the lights were pointing in the direction the car had come. It had no room to turn around where it was and anyway no time to do so, as I followed it directly. Another thing I noticed about the headlights was they were intensely bright blue (bluish white as opposed to yellowish white which is the normal headlight colour here).

In the light of the headlights walking towards me was a man. He was silhouetted because of the brightness of the lights, but I could tell by his outline that he wasn't walking properly. There was a definite... I'm tempted to say a limp but it's more an utter gracelessness... to his walk. As I stood there and watched him walk towards me, I got an awful, sickly and foreboding feeling that this thing wasn't human. The image in my mind was a vampire – something that would look human, even gentlemanly, but 'dead inside'. There was a thought in my head "this is dangerous. It will look human but it won't be human. Look away now" and I looked away completely overcome by this horrible thought. As soon as I had, I shook myself and almost laughed and made myself look back out the window at the car, but there was nothing and nobody there and it was pitch black.

I was rooted to the spot. When I decided to move I pretty much ran to the phone and phoned my mother to ask her if they'd come back into the drive for something (I'd actually watched them leave through that window something like 30 seconds before) and she said that they were about 5 minutes away from returning home and they'd been out hours. Whatever happened in the time between their leaving and returning I don't know, but they were gone hours and I cannot account for those hours.

I waited for them to return sitting in a corner of a room staring out over the rest of them room. When I went to bed that night, I was in the corner of the room staring out over the rest of my room too scared even to blink (it sounds a little pathetic to say, but I literally wouldn't blink. To stop my eyes drying out, I took it in turns to close one eye at a time). I can't account for that missed time, but to this day I have what I call a 'memory of terror'. I think something happened but what I couldn't say, but I can remember feeling such unparalleled terror that I don't think anything could take away that memory, even if the details of it can be hidden.

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I've had other encounters which were less weird. In one of them, I was walking back home from town (my house isn't in town so I have to walk out into the country where there aren't even lampposts to light the way). I was approaching the edge of town when I saw this man in shadow standing looking at his feet. I got a thought in my head to avoid this man, to avoid walking past him. I thought to myself (arguing with my intuition) that I could handle myself if some guy wanted to try something, but the thought came back even louder "fighting will not help!" It was then I got that sense of 'uncanniness' as the Scots call it (there's really no better word for it or them imo); there was something really not normal about this guy. So I turned and went down a second road instead of the path I had been planning to walk.

As I did, I looked up and looked down the road so that I could watch this person without looking directly at him. His head jerked up, jerked towards me and he started shuffling towards me and down the road. It was strange, but even beneath the street lights he seemed mostly in shadow. Even as he followed me, he would do that weird little shuffle while looking at his feet. I passed a house with large hedges and walked into the drive as though I lived there but turned to jump out on him when he came past. I saw a blue flash and when I looked there was nobody there any more. I then left and walked home, apparently without event.

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Another I didn't actually see but my friend told me about it. Actually, before she told me she didn't even know what the MIB were. She'd seen the film (lol) but thought the film had invented them. Several times she'd be approached by a man who looked like he'd fallen out of a Dicken's novel – top hat, all black – that sort of thing. This man would even walk up to people she knew and ask them about her. Everyone who's ever met 'him' say that he seems old fashioned but also that he spoke funnily and moved in an unnatural way. So this man was always going up to my friend and asking her weird and apparently inconsequential questions before walking off. If anybody asked him anything, he'd give non-sequitur answers.

In the end, he appeared a few times looking for her to give her a necklace. He was adamant that she wear the necklace saying how important it was for her to do that. The last time she saw him, he appeared when she was with a few people, gave her the necklace (and again a few non-sequitur responses) and then walked away. They followed him. He turned round a corner into a dead end and when they followed (as she told it, they couldn't have been more than 6-7 feet behind him) he had completely disappeared.

She's not seen him since, but when she looked down at the necklace it gave her the creeps. She said it actually made her feel like she was going to be sick just looking at it and touching it. She threw it away in the graveyard (the dead end they followed him into was actually a graveyard), stamped it into the ground and has never seen him or it since.

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(Sorry everyone; I've just previewed this post and seen how long it is. I hope it gives you something to get your teeth into :D)

[shadowstalker]

@ Seikou-Kishi
I just read 2 paragraphs but i will catch up as soon as I can , reading of the monitor screws with my eyes...lol
But i promise to catch up...

[red_rose]

@S-Kishi

I'm about to watch ghostbusters with my friend :)

Will read it tomorrow...thanks for posting

in love

red_rose

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Actually, I'm gonna read it now, then watch ghostbusters!! :)

[Seikou-Kishi]

Ah Ghostbusters! It'd be nice to watch people putting the otherworldly in its place after a topic like this :D

[Realeyes]

I hope it gives you something to get your teeth into :D)
WOW Seikou-Kishi!
I have just made my daughter quite angry for not giving her the internet while I read your post before signing off! Well done for remembering all that detail!!! Thank you so much for sharing these experiences, it has really helped me and I will now sign off and contemplate.

[Turcurulin]

(Sorry everyone; I've just previewed this post and seen how long it is. I hope it gives you something to get your teeth into :D)

Couldn't be long enough, dear-friend.

shadowstalker, Realeyes, & Seikou-Kishi,

I extend my deepest thanks to you for sharing your experiences. Your disclosure of these events has helped me, and I am sure that I am speaking for others who are, perhaps, still frightened of coming forward as well. I feel a strong connection with you guys because of these events - as unsavory as they may be.

Please do not hesitate to go into any further details and/or update this thread when/if more memories of these events come to light - I promise to do the same.

[Seikou-Kishi]

I can see how tempting it is for people to be too afraid to speak. It's a vicious circle though; if somebody terrifies you into silence, they learn that terrifying you works and they'll do it again. In an exchange between us and the MIB, we get terror and they get compliance. We can't control if we are terrified or not, but we can make sure they don't get what they're after :-)

If they try to terrify you – even if they are successful and do terrify you – and you still don't give them what they want (if you don't run like a sheep from the sheep dog) then what are their options? It's like parents to children about bullying: it's not about not being scared, it's about not letting fear corral you. If a school-kid shows a bully that he can't be intimidated, no matter if that bully is a complete brute, eventually he will lose interest and move on to more satisfying prey.

[kooky]

And there is one moral lesson you've got wrong. If a child is being bullied they shouldn't just keep their head down and ignore and hope the bully will go away, infact you are claiming it as fact that the bully will walk away just like you claim well.....what can they do? What can the MIB do if you don't do what they want? Well there is lots they can do. I'm pretty sure they can approach you anytime they want and do anything they want to you.

[Seikou-Kishi]

And there is one moral lesson you've got wrong. If a child is being bullied they shouldn't just keep their head down and ignore and hope the bully will go away, infact you are claiming it as fact that the bully will walk away just like you claim well.....what can they do? What can the MIB do if you don't do what they want? Well there is lots they can do. I'm pretty sure they can approach you anytime they want and do anything they want to you.

Oh no lol, I completely agree there lol. If anybody touched any of mine, I'd be telling them to kick them through the wall and send their "fathers" to me lol :D
All I meant was if the bullies can see you're not scared, be they school yard bullies or MiB, they will get the message sooner or later. With school yard bullies, it's a little easier to drive the message home lol.

[red_rose]

Ah Ghostbusters! It'd be nice to watch people putting the otherworldly in its place after a topic like this :D

yeah, too right...but whatever you do "don't cross streams!!" :)

[shadowstalker]

@ Seikou Kishi
Very odd about the foreboding feeling I had the same feeling with the MIB
Never heard of an MIB giving gifts I wonder what the gift was really for. Hmmmm.
Very interesting the way these guys work aint it?

[Seikou-Kishi]

I remember some of the questions this guy asked would be very rude, personal questions (what we might call 'biological' questions; I am eager not to repeat them) and then something like 'is my hat on straight?' Lol.

We've been back to look for this necklace but it was gone. Whether a visitor to the graveyard removed it or something else did, I don't know.

[Realeyes]

I haven't got time to reply right now - so will return to this post tomorrow. smile

I look forward to it. much love red_rose

Here it is as requested - smile.

Just prior to 1976, I had already had firsthand experience whilst hopping and skipping to the local shops, when reality did an instant ‘time slip’ back 60 years prior; I remained there for around 5 minutes before returning back to real time. This experience showed me without any doubt that reality was not fixed and solid, it could change in a nano-second. This dramatically changed my perceptions of reality to what other people perceived. The more I saw, the less I fitted into social normality.

1977 - It was in my 9th year of life when my next dramatic awakening occurred, I do not recall any particular incident that may have led up to this; it was the school Summer holidays.

I went to bed as normal. What actually happened during that night whilst asleep is a great question, something I have been pondering the last couple of days. At the time (and up until two days ago) I just thought I had a soul ‘remembrance’ or awakening. Now upon reflection, I suspect it is quite possible that I had an E.T. encounter during my sleep with my real family. The answer could be either or both? You see, I awoke the next morning a completely different person in mind state, with a definite ‘KNOWINGNESS’ and inner peace within myself that has stayed with me ever since.

I absolutely ‘KNEW’ deep within my soul, beyond any shadow of doubt, that I came from the Stars. I KNEW that I had travelled throughout Space, Time and Dimensions visiting many star systems and planets along the way spanning eons of time, occupying many different body forms. I Knew who my real star family was, it mattered not the ‘name’ or ‘form’, these are always changing, it was Soul Family, and one the deepest Soulful resonance I have ever felt. I knew these star beings were always close by in the unseen, constantly connected to me, lovingly watching me, and silently assisting occasionally when needed, as I did my Earth Walk.

Although this absolute KNOWINGNESS was a joy and comfort, I was now terribly ‘home sick’ because I ‘remembered’. I remembered life being harmonious, wondrously inspiring, unconditionally supportive and spiritual; nothing like societies ways here on Earth that was energetically jarring, violent, spiritually empty and absent of unconditional love.

I now became obsessed during the Summer holiday spending all my time alone in the local park swinging on the swings. I spent weeks doing this, staring up at the blue sky convinced something had gone terribly wrong, calling out to my star family out there that they had dropped me off on the wrong planet and I wanted to go home or at least be taken to the right planet.

This fixation about being on the swings was the ‘gravity-free-lightness’ moment one feels if one swings high enough – this sensation reminded me of ‘home’. This body of mine and the density of Earth’s reality were so heavy compared to where I came from. For some reason I got it into my head that it was possible to somehow ‘pause/freeze’ time in the moment of being in this ‘gravity-free-lightness’, then I would be able to project myself back ‘home’. It didn’t work and some might say this was just a 9 year olds crazy ideas, yet anyone who has OBE’s will understand that ‘lightness’ of being when in their Astral body, and the higher one goes up the dimensions the lighter (more enlightened) one becomes.

I now instantly knew when ‘eyes’ from above were watching me, and it started to really frustrate me that ‘they’ were staying invisible to me. I knew the skies were teaming with life and I just couldn’t understand at the time why they chose to stay hidden. Each night instead of being asleep in my bed, I would sit by the bedroom window sending out demanding telepathic thoughts for them to reveal themselves to me.

I don’t recall how many weeks I tirelessly did this, yet it paid off one night with a saucer shape craft -of bright light appeared in the sky and zig-zagged in the small portion of sky visible from my bedroom window, putting on a fantastic show for me. I knew, that ‘it’ knew, I was watching. I watched the saucer shaped disc travel at vast speeds, stop instantly like suddenly freezing, and then instantly speed off into another direction. I then watched it get lower and lower in its zig=zags towards the ground and then it went out of my vision towards a neighbouring farmer’s field. I was later told that very craft did indeed land in the neighbouring field very close to our flat! It was witnessed by many villagers.

Six weeks later my mother was given an old second-hand black and white television. I was allowed to watch T.V. while she was cooking evening dinner. I was watching the end of the news waiting for the cartoons to come on when something very strange happened.

The news reporter was reading the news, but then an extra audio voice from an unknown source sent out a message. Later it was immediately called a ‘hoax’, yet this was 1977 with old technology and still to this day, no one has been able to prove that it was actually a hoax. Before I paste the message, I had also better add, that am not a ‘follower’ of channelled information on the whole, it can be so easily manipulated and I also do not follow channellings from the Ashtar Galactic Command etc, that has become very popular in the New Age Community. Having said that, the below incident was very timely for me personally weeks after the events I have shared above and made a lot of sense to me back then. 35 years on, I am older and wiser, and this message still makes sense to me and not so dissimilar to George Greens message and many others alike. Smile.

On Saturday November 26th at 5:10pm a tv news broadcast in the southern part of the UK was temporarily hijacked...

TRANSCRIPT: “This is the voice of Vrillon, a representative of the Ashtar Galactic Command, speaking to you. For many years you have seen us as lights in the skies. We speak to you now in peace and wisdom as we have done to your brothers and sisters all over this, your planet Earth.

We come to warn you of the destiny of your race and your world so that you may communicate to your fellow beings the course you must take to avoid the disaster which threatens your world, and the beings on our worlds around you. This is in order that you may share in the great awakening, as the planet passes into the New Age of Aquarius. The New Age can be a time of great peace and evolution for your race, but only if your rulers are made aware of the evil forces that can overshadow their judgments.

Be still now and listen, for your chance may not come again.

All your weapons of evil must be removed. The time for conflict is now past and the race of which you are a part may proceed to the higher stages of its evolution if you show yourselves worthy to do this. You have but a short time to learn to live together in peace and goodwill.

Small groups all over the planet are learning this, and exist to pass on the light of the dawning New Age to you all. You are free to accept or reject their teachings, but only those who learn to live in peace will pass to the higher realms of spiritual evolution.

Hear now the voice of Vrillon, a representative of the Ashtar Galactic Command, speaking to you. Be aware also that there are many false prophets and guides operating in your world. They will suck your energy from you - the energy you call money and will put it to evil ends and give you worthless dross in return.

Your inner divine self will protect you from this. You must learn to be sensitive to the voice within that can tell you what truth is, and what is confusion, chaos and untruth. Learn to listen to the voice of truth which is within you and you will lead yourselves onto the path of evolution.

This is our message to our dear friends. We have watched you growing for many years as you too have watched our lights in your skies. You know now that we are here, and that there are more beings on and around your Earth than your scientists admit.

We are deeply concerned about you and your path towards the light and will do all we can to help you. Have no fear, seek only to know yourselves, and live in harmony with the ways of your planet Earth. We of the Ashtar Galactic Command thank you for your attention. We are now leaving the plane of your existence. May you be blessed by the supreme love and truth of the Cosmos.” END

Unfortunately ITV removed youtube links years ago of the original recording from the full live broadcast – but here is the audio version for those interested. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMT4IlYTo7E&feature

More on Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Television_broadcast_interruption_hoax

Sorry for the length, yet I know those participating in this thread are having a very serious discussion and the more detail we include about our ‘events’, the greater opportunity we have to unravelling the mystery as to ‘why’ we would get visits from the MIB. Just by writing these moments down for this thread has already helped me understand greater, rather than leaving it buried in a child’s mind – thank you for prompting me to do this.

For myself, upon doing this cathartic exercise of logging down and defining, I suspect the moment one’s awareness, consciousness, knowingness, remembrance et cetera escapes/breaks free beyond the confines of this ‘false matrix reality’ we live in, our ‘spark’ is seen – and just like in the Matrix movies, Mr Smith’s job was to stop this from happening.

Well as they say in Star Wars: “The Force will be with you, Always!” “You must feel the Force around you.” “Use the Force.” Smile.

Ps. Sidenote: I put ‘Jedi’ down on my last census form. Hee Hee.

[Realeyes]

.....In the light of the headlights walking towards me was a man. He was silhouetted because of the brightness of the lights, but I could tell by his outline that he wasn't walking properly. There was a definite... I'm tempted to say a limp but it's more an utter gracelessness... to his walk. As I stood there and watched him walk towards me, I got an awful, sickly and foreboding feeling that this thing wasn't human. The image in my mind was a vampire – something that would look human, even gentlemanly, but 'dead inside'. There was a thought in my head "this is dangerous. It will look human but it won't be human. Look away now" and I looked away completely overcome by this horrible thought............

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...........As I did, I looked up and looked down the road so that I could watch this person without looking directly at him. His head jerked up, jerked towards me and he started shuffling towards me and down the road. It was strange, but even beneath the street lights he seemed mostly in shadow. Even as he followed me, he would do that weird little shuffle while looking at his feet. I passed a house with large hedges and walked into the drive as though I lived there but turned to jump out on him when he came past. I saw a blue flash and when I looked there was nobody there any more. I then left and walked home, apparently without event.............

I was most interested in your description of how this guy walked.

I was instantly reminded of something Dan Burisch said in one of his old interviews with Project Camelot – sorry not sure which one. Anyway, he mentioned one of the E.T. races he was working with, and when they walked it was like someone who had ‘pooped their pants’ or words to that effect.

These were not the nice E.T.’s, who I think he said were wearing someone’s human skin to disguise themselves; Dan could identify them by the way they walked. I am not certain but it may have been the ‘J-rods’ or some name like that - sorry it was a long time ago I viewed these interviews. I am sure there will be someone on this forum who will remember better details. Smile or watch the interviews yourself.

Anyway, I am not saying this is what you experienced, only you will know the answer to this – yet it just reminded me of the above.

[shadowstalker]

It's amazing that some of us here in this thread with our recollections of our childhood in-tale U.F.O.'s/past life remembrance,/spiritual gifts/M.I.B.'s and so on manage to make a pattern.
In our grief or semi grief stricken past come a spiritual growing and knowing at one point or another in our future.. And to find a way to reconcile with most of what has been going on and the changes that go with it. We find our selves having to look deeper into our selves thru others and vice-versa, to which creates a cycle of growth once more and to keep looking in the direction of spirit and cosmos and universal questions for ones self and others to create a semi better understanding therein..

I am loving this thread to be honest I never thought it would grow as beautiful as it did...

Thank you all :grouphug: keep the good works coming

[Seikou-Kishi]

Yeah I think you're right about the J-Rods Realeyes. I'm really not sure about Burisch though. Of course, that's just a personal uncertainty rather than anything I could actually point out. The ones I've seen though yeah, there's something very odd about the way they walk. It seems they're just very uncomfortable in their skin (or somebody else's? lol) because they don't have anything that might be identifiable like "oh, he's limping because his ankle looks weak" or anything like that.

One thing I thought of when my friend told me about this one who spoke and gave her the necklace was how the speech was funny as though the mouth were a strange fit. It seemed very much like the description Credo Mutwa gave of the strange man who was controlling the HIV+ lackeys who stole the necklace... Lol... I've just realised both were necklaces too XD.

A few things I've noticed that seem to be found in many MiB stories:

strange walking pattern and jerky body movements.
non-sequitur or out of place conversation ("Please move the body I cannot move her" springs to mind)
strangeness in the actual mechanism of speech as opposed to stylistics.
a predilection for black. Perhaps for a sinister connotation, perhaps for a formal connotation. Perhaps because black just goes with everything lol. Add to this the strange attire itself... what is the point in that? Are they trying and failing to replicate muggle clothing? (lol...) or are they trying to set themselves apart – if so, to what end? A few isolated incidents maybe could be acceptable, but they get their clothing wrong so much as to seem to preclude (at least to me) any idea of haphazardness. But then if testimonies account for a recent updating of style, perhaps not.
a strange bluish light. The two incidents of my own I relayed above both had the strange bluish light, and I've since read it in many other accounts esp. as a strange 'glow' within the black cars they drive.
when they're not alone, they're often recorded as having engaged in inappropriate behaviour, especially sexually explicit behaviour, including fondling and asking inappropriate questions.
many reports demonstrate a threatening side to the encounters; often however when those threats are taken up or returned with interest, they seem not to actually become violent or to carry out their threats. Of course, how many people who turn up dead or just go missing have actually simply died or gone missing? In any case, a lot of the cases I've read suggest they threat and threat and never really carry their threats out.
often, those who are meeting the MiB do not actually notice that there is anything strange about them while they are there and it is only once they've left that the person goes "wait... there was something not quite right about him"
usually immaculately groomed. I've never read of a dirty MiB or one with a five o'clock shadow. I've read of bearded and unbearded MiBs, but never the dirty-looking inbetweeners lol.
despite usually immaculate condition, they often have a look of artificiality and contrivedness to them; they have been reported as having no lips but lips painted on with lipsticks. Such a 'deformity' might explain their peculiar speech mechanisms.
in addition to the above, the men are often reported as having been wearing make-up.
they seem to be maladjusted to using a human body; often they will declare biological or 'mechanical' dysfunction with their bodies, refer to them in the third person or with terms such as vessel, and even refer to their body's 'power levels'. The phrase from above "Please move the body I cannot move her" is an example of this.


I'm not sure how many of these other people already know, but it might be something to look out for as you find MiB stories. Of course, these are just my observations from MiB stories and it would be inductive reasoning to say "this guy didn't ask inappropriate questions so he can't be MiB", but as these themes crop up in more MiB encounter stories it is interesting to ask why it might be the case and why, if it is so in one encounter, why it is not so in another. Perhaps there are factions who do things differently. Perhaps there are some who are more confused than others.

[Realeyes]

Yeah I think you're right about the J-Rods Realeyes. I'm really not sure about Burisch though. Of course, that's just a personal uncertainty rather than anything I could actually point out. The ones I've seen though yeah, there's something very odd about the way they walk. It seems they're just very uncomfortable in their skin (or somebody else's? lol) because they don't have anything that might be identifiable like "oh, he's limping because his ankle looks weak" or anything like that.

One thing I thought of when my friend told me about this one who spoke and gave her the necklace was how the speech was funny as though the mouth were a strange fit. It seemed very much like the description Credo Mutwa gave of the strange man who was controlling the HIV+ lackeys who stole the necklace... Lol... I've just realised both were necklaces too XD.

A few things I've noticed that seem to be found in many MiB stories:

strange walking pattern and jerky body movements.
non-sequitur or out of place conversation ("Please move the body I cannot move her" springs to mind)
strangeness in the actual mechanism of speech as opposed to stylistics.
a predilection for black. Perhaps for a sinister connotation, perhaps for a formal connotation. Perhaps because black just goes with everything lol. Add to this the strange attire itself... what is the point in that? Are they trying and failing to replicate muggle clothing? (lol...) or are they trying to set themselves apart – if so, to what end? A few isolated incidents maybe could be acceptable, but they get their clothing wrong so much as to seem to preclude (at least to me) any idea of haphazardness. But then if testimonies account for a recent updating of style, perhaps not.
a strange bluish light. The two incidents of my own I relayed above both had the strange bluish light, and I've since read it in many other accounts esp. as a strange 'glow' within the black cars they drive.
when they're not alone, they're often recorded as having engaged in inappropriate behaviour, especially sexually explicit behaviour, including fondling and asking inappropriate questions.
many reports demonstrate a threatening side to the encounters; often however when those threats are taken up or returned with interest, they seem not to actually become violent or to carry out their threats. Of course, how many people who turn up dead or just go missing have actually simply died or gone missing? In any case, a lot of the cases I've read suggest they threat and threat and never really carry their threats out.
often, those who are meeting the MiB do not actually notice that there is anything strange about them while they are there and it is only once they've left that the person goes "wait... there was something not quite right about him"
usually immaculately groomed. I've never read of a dirty MiB or one with a five o'clock shadow. I've read of bearded and unbearded MiBs, but never the dirty-looking inbetweeners lol.
despite usually immaculate condition, they often have a look of artificiality and contrivedness to them; they have been reported as having no lips but lips painted on with lipsticks. Such a 'deformity' might explain their peculiar speech mechanisms.
in addition to the above, the men are often reported as having been wearing make-up.
they seem to be maladjusted to using a human body; often they will declare biological or 'mechanical' dysfunction with their bodies, refer to them in the third person or with terms such as vessel, and even refer to their body's 'power levels'. The phrase from above "Please move the body I cannot move her" is an example of this.


I'm not sure how many of these other people already know, but it might be something to look out for as you find MiB stories. Of course, these are just my observations from MiB stories and it would be inductive reasoning to say "this guy didn't ask inappropriate questions so he can't be MiB", but as these themes crop up in more MiB encounter stories it is interesting to ask why it might be the case and why, if it is so in one encounter, why it is not so in another. Perhaps there are factions who do things differently. Perhaps there are some who are more confused than others.

Seikou-Kishi - You have really done your homework - well done for putting down all these observations, I am most impressed!

As to the 'necklace' gift your friend was offered - it reminded me of the dark film 'Rosemary's Baby', which I am told has many satanic truths of the ways the satanics operate. I am so glad your friend did not 'wear' the necklace - it sounds like she avoided (1) being mind controlled and (2) a nasty experience. The necklace sounds to me like it could very likely have been inspelled.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Realeyes, I liked how in the transcript you relayed the "narrator" urged people to listen to their own intuition. I'm generally very suspicious of channelled material, but empowerment is empowerment.

[Realeyes]

I was looking for something completely different while on the web and stumbled upon this site; they had a few paragraphs on the MIB. I don't personally know this site, so cannot vouch for it, yet thought to paste it here. Smile.

MIB’S
"Also referred to as the ’Men In Black’ or ’Horlocks’. These are apparently in many cases humans who are controlled by draconian influences, although other ’MIB’ have been encountered which do not seem human, but more reptilian OR synthetic. The ’MIB’ have been encountered often after UFO sightings, usually intimidating witnesses into keeping silent about what they’ve seen (many of the witnesses may be ’abductees’ with suppressed memories of the event).

Their ’threats’ appear to be motivated by attempts to utilize ’terrorism’, ’fear’ or ’intimidation’ as a psychological weapon against witnesses. This ’weapon’ may not only be used to keep the human ’MIB’ under control, but by the human MIB’s themselves.

’They’ are often, though not always, seen in connection with large, black automobiles, some of which have been seen disappearing into mountains -- as in the case of one basing area between Hopland and Lakeport, California -- canyons or tunnels or in some cases apparently appear out of or disappear (cloak?) into thin air. Most humanoid MIB have probably been implanted by the Draconians and are essentially their ’slaves’. Bio-synthetic forms possessed by ’infernals’ also seem to play a part in the MIB scenario, as do subterranean and exterran societies.

Sirius, at only 9+ light years away, has been identified as a major exterran MIB center of activity, with a subterran counterpart existing in ancient antediluvian ’Atlantean’ underground complexes which have been ’re-established’ beneath the Eastern U.S. seaboard."
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/esp_vida_alien_19a.htm

[shadowstalker]

Well i know the last MIB I saw didn't use a car so I know that's true.

[Realeyes]

I just came accross this link and thought it may be useful in our discussion to unravel this mystery a little bit further. smile.

Transdimensional Beings Amongst Us

"I have friend that can see the other worlds very well, he has the same hands as I have. He does miracle healings but in secret.

He sent me this experience below that he had of transdimensional beings in a shopping mall, he kindly said I could publish it. Below his email is my answer to him.


Dear Stuart,

I would be very grateful for your opinion on this experience which came to mind after reading your posting “the dark band”: On a Saturday in very a crowded shopping area, my attention was drawn to two males about 50 meters away, they were identically dressed and seemed like identical twins to me. They seemed to be having a nice time. However something didn’t seem right.

As they got closer they realized I was watching them, they started shivering and exuding fear, evil and hate. One of them disappeared, the other seemed to want to stick it out.

As I watched, his fake skin sort of melted away from his face, underneath it was a a dull grey metallic colour, the eyes were big but had no eyeballs just the same metallic colour. He kept his distance and then disappeared into the crowd.

I was with my wife who was in a hurry as the shops were about to close so I couldn’t watch further. I had tears in my eyes for days, it was clear that these creatures didn’t have the interests of humanity as their agenda. My conclusion is these are creatures masquerading in 3D as humans and can’t be identified by the vast majority of humans. (end of email)

My Reply

Dear….

Usually when humans are reptiles their pupils go to slits like a cat’s eye, but sometimes it’s more than that, and one see a pointed arch in the left eye like the top of a small church window.

The non-humans take two forms I know of….maybe many more, first are the living dead, they are humans that look ordinary but they are not really inside their bodies, they have been captured …they are automatons with no emotions ….they talk in short abrupt busts of a few words at a time. They are very mechanical and heartless, sometimes their movements are a bit jerky. They twitch.

Then there beings like the ones you saw, non-human transdimensionals. As you say, they became scared because they knew you knew …they knew that you could see them. They normally operate in secret, like the Men in Black. I once helped a friend rub out nine of the Men in Black in the South of France in 2007.

I’ve seen humans shed their human skin and go to green or grey scales and a zig zag spine that comes off their normal spine. They have an eerie callous look about them, sneering

I think you saw non-human beings like the two twins from the Matrix. Much love stuie wilde

Footnote by SW:

There are billions of beings on earth, or those that hover close to it (18 inches) that are not human, like the Greys for example.

And some can affect a human disguise, or they morph into half-beast, half human. Some are pig-like, they have snouts, they smell terrible like a rotting swamp.

Over the years we have done our best to rub these transdimensional (TDs) out, as they spread despair and pain but millions maybe billions still remain.

There are a lot in Mexico. The Mexicans are a very victimized people, the TDs really hurt them. It’s very sad. Mexican TV promotes it all the time, which doesn’t help one bit."

Stuart Wilde (www.stuartwilde.com)
link from http://www.stuartwilde.com/2012/03/transdimensional-brings-amongst-us/

[Turcurulin]

Here is a short clip with David Icke interviewing Credo Mutwa. At the very beginning, Credo speaks on the African version of the MiB.

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Though this is as far as they go on the topic of the MiB, I recommend watching the entire interview.

[wynderer]

I just came accross this link and thought it may be useful in our discussion to unravel this mystery a little bit further. smile.

Transdimensional Beings Amongst Us

"I have friend that can see the other worlds very well, he has the same hands as I have. He does miracle healings but in secret.

He sent me this experience below that he had of transdimensional beings in a shopping mall, he kindly said I could publish it. Below his email is my answer to him.


Dear Stuart,

I would be very grateful for your opinion on this experience which came to mind after reading your posting “the dark band”: On a Saturday in very a crowded shopping area, my attention was drawn to two males about 50 meters away, they were identically dressed and seemed like identical twins to me. They seemed to be having a nice time. However something didn’t seem right.

As they got closer they realized I was watching them, they started shivering and exuding fear, evil and hate. One of them disappeared, the other seemed to want to stick it out.

As I watched, his fake skin sort of melted away from his face, underneath it was a a dull grey metallic colour, the eyes were big but had no eyeballs just the same metallic colour. He kept his distance and then disappeared into the crowd.

I was with my wife who was in a hurry as the shops were about to close so I couldn’t watch further. I had tears in my eyes for days, it was clear that these creatures didn’t have the interests of humanity as their agenda. My conclusion is these are creatures masquerading in 3D as humans and can’t be identified by the vast majority of humans. (end of email)

My Reply

Dear….

Usually when humans are reptiles their pupils go to slits like a cat’s eye, but sometimes it’s more than that, and one see a pointed arch in the left eye like the top of a small church window.

The non-humans take two forms I know of….maybe many more, first are the living dead, they are humans that look ordinary but they are not really inside their bodies, they have been captured …they are automatons with no emotions ….they talk in short abrupt busts of a few words at a time. They are very mechanical and heartless, sometimes their movements are a bit jerky. They twitch.

Then there beings like the ones you saw, non-human transdimensionals. As you say, they became scared because they knew you knew …they knew that you could see them. They normally operate in secret, like the Men in Black. I once helped a friend rub out nine of the Men in Black in the South of France in 2007.

I’ve seen humans shed their human skin and go to green or grey scales and a zig zag spine that comes off their normal spine. They have an eerie callous look about them, sneering

I think you saw non-human beings like the two twins from the Matrix. Much love stuie wilde

Footnote by SW:

There are billions of beings on earth, or those that hover close to it (18 inches) that are not human, like the Greys for example.

And some can affect a human disguise, or they morph into half-beast, half human. Some are pig-like, they have snouts, they smell terrible like a rotting swamp.

Over the years we have done our best to rub these transdimensional (TDs) out, as they spread despair and pain but millions maybe billions still remain.

There are a lot in Mexico. The Mexicans are a very victimized people, the TDs really hurt them. It’s very sad. Mexican TV promotes it all the time, which doesn’t help one bit."

Stuart Wilde (www.stuartwilde.com)
link from http://www.stuartwilde.com/2012/03/transdimensional-brings-amongst-us/

i've just read thru this whole thread -- i have had many similar experiences -- i wanted to reply to a lot of them, but here's just a short response to Realeyes' post above:

a few years ago i was in the Indianapolis Greyhound Bus Terminal -- a large & busy bus station -- i suddenly thought/felt, 'There's Reptilian energy here' -- i looked around -- a few rows of benches over, there was a tall fit young man looking at me -- as he saw me looking at him, the whole bus station seemed to get really quiet -- then he stuck his tongue out -- i swear it came down to at least his clavicle -- i thought, 'Yuck' & turned away

the quietness -- i think that has to do w/the time slowing down feeling that has preceded some of my other odd experiences -- also i should say that i don't go around sniffing out Reptilian energy all the time -- i think maybe he wanted me to look at him -- maybe he's proud of how long his tongue is or something

thank you all so much for this thread -- i have never found as many experiences i could so easily relate to as right here

[Sesan]

Dan Burish posted a picture a few years ago of what he said was a MIB. I found it on google. I still haven't figured out how to post it on Avalon. Easy to find. It's not the best, but interesting non-the-less.

[RunningDeer]

Wow, Realeyes!

My world gets smaller and smaller by the day. There's so much I do not know... I just stumbled upon this, which means that I'm meant to see it. Thank your for sharing.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer



Just prior to 1976, I had already had firsthand experience whilst hopping and skipping to the local shops, when reality did an instant ‘time slip’ back 60 years prior; I remained there for around 5 minutes before returning back to real time. This experience showed me without any doubt that reality was not fixed and solid, it could change in a nano-second. This dramatically changed my perceptions of reality to what other people perceived. The more I saw, the less I fitted into social normality.

1977 - It was in my 9th year of life when my next dramatic awakening occurred, I do not recall any particular incident that may have led up to this; it was the school Summer holidays.

I went to bed as normal. What actually happened during that night whilst asleep is a great question, something I have been pondering the last couple of days. At the time (and up until two days ago) I just thought I had a soul ‘remembrance’ or awakening. Now upon reflection, I suspect it is quite possible that I had an E.T. encounter during my sleep with my real family. The answer could be either or both? You see, I awoke the next morning a completely different person in mind state, with a definite ‘KNOWINGNESS’ and inner peace within myself that has stayed with me ever since.

[Realeyes]

Dan Burish posted a picture a few years ago of what he said was a MIB. I found it on google. I still haven't figured out how to post it on Avalon. Easy to find. It's not the best, but interesting non-the-less.

Hello Sesan,
Do you have a link for these pictures that you could post here?

I have done a google search for the past 20 mins and have not found it.

I would be interest to see what you are talking about. Smile. :cool:

[Realeyes]

Hi SS, has your dad got back to you yet? Keep well dearest.

Stan
Sorry to say but no not yet
It has to do with timing and the like as my mother is not to crazy about talking about them so he has to find the right place and so on.
He has pre-pay phone so that's not a good idea money wise. I wish he would just right it all down and snail mail..

Hi Shadowstalker,

I was just wondering if you have now recieved the 'answers' you were seeking?

[Logan]

Yeah I'd like to see that Dan Burisch pic as well. I was trying to pinpoint the interview last night actually where he mentioned his MIB experience.

[shadowstalker]

I will try to catch up soon, I have limited time on the puter it's my dads puter..
As for answer I will ask him when the weather gets warmer ( and talk to him outdoors) so as not to freak out my mom..

[ponda]

I'm not sure but this might be the photo that Sesan was referring to.


This photo was taken by Tim Beckley and Jim Moseley in Jersey City, New Jersey. Tim & Jim received several calls from UFO Researcher John J. Robbinson concerned about a "mysterious stranger" who appeared to be watching him on a regular basis.

After this photo was taken of the "MIB" standing in the doorway opposite Robbinson's apartment the MIB was never seen again.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/08/Timothy-Green-Beckley-Images-III.jpghttp://www.astralnewz.com/images/Beckley111208f_copy.gif


More info and image address here: http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/08/RIR-110821.php

[Realeyes]

Thank you Ponda for finding these photos.

These look quite 'old' in date - can anyone date the vehicle - is this from the 50's or 60's?

Thanks for the website - there is loads of info on the Men in Black on there - I am just listening to the 1 hr radio interview talking about the MIB, most interesting.

[ponda]

Thank you Ponda for finding these photos.

These look quite 'old' in date - can anyone date the vehicle - is this from the 50's or 60's?

Thanks for the website - there is loads of info on the Men in Black on there - I am just listening to the 1 hr radio interview talking about the MIB, most interesting.

Hi Realeyes,

You're welcome.

i think it was taken some time during the 60's.i first seen this photo while i was going through a very good article about mib's.i've been trying to find that article for ages now but no luck as yet.i'll post it here if i do find it.


cheers

[Logan]

The MIB are a fascinating phenomenon / piece of folklore.

[Realeyes]

Well this is certainly turning into an interesting day.

Check out the below link - MIB caught on cctv footage!


MIB visit hotel asking questions after local UFO sighting. MIB were reported by clerk to have no eyebrows and no eyelashes, with pale skin, large blue eyes, and seem to look like twins.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=994_1335079793

[tonton]

hey to all of you on this thred,i just want to honestly thank you. i have learnt so much about this subject.i had no idea how intense, how often and how infiltrated the mibs are in our every day lives,but i must say one thing very clearly..........thankyou all for your strength , your truths,your sincerity's and courage.............learnt more about these things from you people than the meddling mibs .

in the fringe series they were pertrayed as observers ,like time traveling waking historical observers with out to much interference.in real life they seem to be manipulators .those that help to enshore that what is to be secret stays that way, if they can arrive in time to manipulate it............ and as for you, that were inter feared with as children ,i guess you were (and sill are)see ers .ones that were free of frequencies that blind the most of us.........we are changing though and we also are starting to feel. see, and accept what has been taken from us.soon you wont be so alone ,and they the mibs wont be able to hide .

[GoodETxSG]

This is a fascinating thread. Thank you all that have contributed such well researched info and also having the courage to share your experiences. That is what I like about the Avalon Forums… Other than a FEW exceptions you find that people are supportive and ready to educate or learn from the experiences of others. That is not found on a lot of sites, I guess we owe a thanks to the members and the moderators for that.

[Turcurulin]

Does anyone else in the group have an MIB experience or am I the only one.
Anybody else want to tell there story?

Hi shadowstalker,

Thank you for the thread and for sharing your experience. Yes, I've also had an experience with MiB in August 2006. I was originally directed to this thread, and inspired to post my own story, by mojo's post here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41977-Mib).

It was a wrong place/wrong time (or right place/right time) sort of random occurrence. I went on a trip to the West-Coast (US) with 2 close friends of mine. The encounter happened on the return trip. We'd pulled off onto a 'nature preserve' on Bureau of Land Management turf, just outside of Mountain Home, Idaho.

We were famished and hurriedly set-up the camp-stove as dusk was settling around us. While supping, I tilted back my head to drink and to reveal the third of the eight UFO's that I've seen (but still my most intense sighting of all.) The craft was only about 200 to 300 feet above us and had all of the symptoms of a black-technology craft (which, at that time, I was not familiar with what the symptoms of different types of UFOs were. This was most definitely a gov't-issue craft, however.) It was a black triangle. It looked just like this photo (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/album.php?albumid=93&attachmentid=2316) from Avalon member Hiram.

(Note - In the thread where this is originally posted, Bill Ryan had someone examine the photo who said that it was almost assuredly photo-shopped. However, when I saw this photo my jaw dropped - it is a highly similar body-style to the vehicle that I saw. Also, I do not think that the craft from my sighting was the TR-3B. From what I've seen, the TR-3B is more of a uniform shape on all sides - an almost flat triangle with three identical, round lights in each corner and one in the middle.

The craft that I saw, which I believe to be the Aurora, was more bulky in the back-side and tapered down to the front. The lights on the under-carriage were square and there was a massive spotlight under the nose which projected hundreds of feet out in front of the craft as it flew. There was no visible wings or tail section, but had a single 'dorsal fin'.)

It flew over very slowly at first and was utterly silent. I couldn't say anything to my friends at first - I was mesmerized. It flew away so quickly that I was unable to visually follow the trajectory of the craft upon its acceleration. All I could say after that was "Did you see that?" My friends had not, but were excitedly expressing having sensed something just fly over. My one of friends asked me to explain what I saw. Just before I could, within 30-40 seconds of the first fly-over, he points upward, "There it is!"

It took the same flight path with the same initial, impossibly slow, speed. Again, there was no sound from the craft. When it got about one hundred yards out from our location, it accelerated, in a half of a second, to thousands of kilometers-per-hour. I say 'accelerated' loosely here because there was no build-up of speed. It was traveling just faster than a still hover, and then POOF - it was out of sight. There was no sonic-boom. We watched it turn into a little ball of light as it dashed off in the distance, to what I now know to be Mountain Home AFB (17 kilometers SW of Mountain Home, ID and approx. 24.5 kilometers SW of our location.) It covered the distance in no more than 1-2 seconds, and proceeded to perform impossible acrobatic maneuvers over the sky of the AFB. The pilot traced out shapes of circles, triangles, and rectangles in the sky with no deceleration. And he would zig-zag the craft back-and-forth, from one end of the AFB to the other while maintaining these incredible speeds, like it was being hit by two giant, invisible ping-pong paddles. Then the craft disappeared into the distant lights below.

We were very hyped-up at this point. We were exchanging high-fives and exclamations on how great it was, when the craft (or another craft of the same make) flew over for a third time. The whole process occurred like the second fly over. But, when the craft landed in the distance, we were no longer so enthusiastic. It seemed to occur us all at the same time that we were seeing something that someone else would probably not want us to be seeing. We all exchanged a glance of concern then and I expressed that I thought we were in the middle of a covert gov't test-flight (a theory which I maintain.) To which my friend replies, "Yeah, let's get the f*ck out-a-here!"

As we hurriedly packed-up (our initial intention was to camp there for the night,) we sensed, but did not see, a fourth fly-over. We'd just closed the hatch of the truck, when we heard an engine revving in the 'preserve' adjacent to the one we were on. I turned my head to see the headlights of a sedan (four square lights like an 80's Crown Victoria or Oldsmobile) driving right toward us. Now, we had been totally alone up to this point. In this rural part of Idaho, we had seen little to no traffic when finding camp and had already observed that no-one had been in the surrounding fields when we arrived at the brightest part of dusk. If anyone would have driven into the area after us (a couple of miles at least from any main road,) then we would have seen their headlights or heard the engine upon entry (one can see very far in all directions when in, almost all places of, the mid-west USA.)

My first thought was, "Why would you be driving a sedan out here?" My second thought was that they were driving too fast. They were rapidly approaching us and did not slow down, despite the fact that the respective fields that we were in were separated by barbed-wire fencing. I then thought, "They're going to drive right through the fence!" My other friend said, "What are they doing?" For a while after that, my next memory would be of a sudden, instantaneous white-flash that I've likened to 'seeing stars' or a split-second flash of analog-signal TV-fuzz. And then at the last utmost second, the car veers away from and drives along the fence at the same blistering pace.

We all got into the car and drove away. One of my friends asked how it could be as late as it was and I noted how dark it had seemed to become (there was now a fully black sky, where there had been the last tinges of dusk only seconds before.) After we all confirmed that we couldn't account for 30 to 45 minutes, we didn't talk much again about our experience on the rest of the return trip.

Almost immediately after that and in the years to follow, I began, completely unintentionally, surfacing repressed memories. It was fairly startling and inexplicable - then, I began making an effort to recover my all of my memories since birth. I noticed that thinking about the above UFO sighting was very mentally agitating. And, the harder that I thought about it, the LESS clear the events became in my mind. The white-flash, which was becoming a growing concern of mine, would actually put me in an emotional state of irritation and give me headaches when I thought about it too hard/for too long (and still does, I'm expecting one to come-on strong during/after this post.) Then, in November of last year, I was thinking on the white-flash and felt like I was hit by a ton of bricks.

I have in my mind, what I can only describe as a 'double memory.' Right at that point in my memory, when I think the car must inevitably break-through the barbed-wire fence and then (in a professional maneuver) turns out of the way just in time, there is a break. And, I remember (pressure in my ears building right now) that the car did not turn and actually drove through the fence. This maybe the hardest claim for the skeptic to accept thus far - but I didn't say 'broke-through,' I said DROVE THROUGH. The car and the fence were both perfectly intact as the partition was crossed without a breach or crash of any kind!

I've found this in subsequent research -

........

All of the memories of this event, that I have from here until we leave the area, are in consecutive 'still pictures' that are all coinciding/overlapping with the memory of the sedan turning away at the last moment. But, this is what I've pieced together (so far [I'm still remembering.]) The black sedan (it really could have been an 89 Crown Vic, but I couldn't get too good of a look because they had their headlights bearing down on us) came to a sliding halt about 10 feet away from my friend's truck. Two men wearing black-suits exited the vehicle. The driver approached us. He was bald, but had rim of white hair around the sides and back of his head, and wore a thin, black tie. He had no identifying marks on his suit. The passenger stayed just behind the shine of the headlights, but I could see from his outline that he had on a fedora and assumed that the rest of his garb was identical to his partner's. The driver was most certainly an earth-born human. But I can say that, without seeing him, I sense that at the time I had a very eerie, uneasy feeling about the passenger. The driver spoke to us, but I'm having the hardest time remembering what was said and what the driver's facial features looked-like. I think that focusing on remembering these things is preventing me from remembering anything further. All I can remember after that is the sedan veering out of the way of the fence at the last moment.

However, I do recall that my friend, in one of the few and short conversations that we had on the trip home, said something to me that stuck out. When talking about how we could have possibly gotten in 'big trouble' (this is before I remembered anything but a white-flash,) my friend said something to the effect of - "They could say anything to the news if they wanted to get rid of us. 'They fell in a hole or drove off of a cliff.'" When I saw the video from mojo's post, where the guy is in the desert claims that the MiB said something of that same nature, I nearly sh*t my pants. :jaw:

Theories -

There is a DUMB East/Northeast of Mountain Home and North of Hammet in Idaho on BLM property. It is connected to the Mountain Home Air Force Base. This DUMB houses Aurora and/or other black-technology aircraft. That fateful night, they were running tests on said aircraft to which we were witnessed. The pilot (or one of three or four possible pilots) reported our location to their command. An envoy was sent to investigate and surfaced from an underground entrance/exit next to our location (which is why we didn't see them enter from the road.) The MiB interrogated us and then wiped our memories of the event, somehow. Whatever they did to my mind actually triggered a reaction that began surfacing my repressed memories. :spy:

Between my general lack of time on the forum, and the above mentioned irritations, I've made several failed attempts to post this somewhere before. So this is actually the short version. If anyone's got questions feel free to PM me or quote me here.

*UPDATE*

Please ignore the above photo that I reference. This is the type of craft that I saw -

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Image Description
2004 - Waupaca, Wisconsin. Taken by Jeff P. just after a sunset on 09-22-04. Object moving West to East. No other info available. This resembles a jet fighter plane, but I have never seen anything quite like it before. Let us know if you know more about this. At this time, it is unknown.
This image comes from this website. http://www.ufocasebook.com/bestufopictures7.html

Also, after that initial post, I've found remembering these events to be exponentially less agitating. As I've lessened my emphasis on forcefully remembering these events in a linear fashion, and have turned more to meditation, I've opened myself up to a slew of bewildering memories of other occurrences which my psyche had suppressed. Namely, in relation to this story, I can remember what seems to me to be the wearing-off of the initial memory-tamper.

I remember a moment of standing, totally paralyzed. I can see my two friends standing in front of me in the same fashion, looking straight-ahead with blank expressions. The sensation that I get from this memory is one that I can only liken to the 'peak' of an 'acid-trip.' The memory begins with a cloud of confusion, forms into a moment of clarity (where I see my friends and understand that we're paralyzed,) and then dissolves away again. During this, I get the feeling that we had not been standing that way for very long. As the memory dissolves, I remember feeling as though the paralysis would soon be over.

I feel like this memory is a break-through for no other reason than the fact that there is no overlapping memory of the car turning away at the fence. I will keep posting updates as they come to me.

[shadowstalker]

@Turcurulin
Thank you so much for the update...

[shadowstalker]

Well I have gone all out and made my own web site for MIB experiencers, and 90 percent of the site is fully functioning for the members.
They can post there own pix and vids with no problems.

Men In Black And You (http://meninblackandyou.webs.com/)

Tell me what you think..

[normam2]

@shadowstalker

I was wondering if the being that my mom and I when I was a newborn would count as a MIB or J-rod.

So here is the story ...


As I understand from talks with my mom and my aunts their side of the family has always had a...six sense if you would call it that . Every single person, from my cousins to my uncles and aunt and other realtives ,have witnessed , felt and/or heard spirits/ ghost. My mom has six siblings, one aunt can read the tarot card with uncanny precision, another had dreams about the future which after several traumatic ones that came to pass she blocked herself and forced herself not to 'see' anymore' .

Anyway, a taboo topic during family gatherings when I was still living in Mexico was the story of the man dressed in black that started coming to their room at the age of 12. The very mention or memory of him would cause extreme fear to the point that they would sprinkle themselves with holy water. To them this thing dressed in black is the devil but the more I think of it the more it resembles an MIB.

My my story goes like this: It would be the middle of the night and as if by appt she would wake up and feel the presence coming down the ravine ( the houses/rooms they lived in where built along the downside of a ravine) ever so slowly. This is very important piece of the puzzle because is not like she could see it with her physical eyes but she has made it very clear that she could see her with her mind getting closer to where she was sleeping , going up the stairs into her room and finally settling on the edge of the bed. The thing would sit there and I believe it was for hrs on end and would only leave when dawn was near. I cant imagine the fear my mom must have felt as she prayed and prayed for the thing to leave. But the eerie thing is that my mom , her sister and my grandmother would all fell it at the same time, as if the thing was presence in multiple locations at the same time. After he was gone my grandmother would go to their room to assure them that everything was ok and that he was finally gone.

I mean how can this be?? how can three different people separated my walls feel the same thing at the same exact time and why?

The thing never talk to them, never touched them . it just sat there on the edge of the bed for hrs on end. This when on for years, of course not every night maybe one time every six months for several years.
My mom says that it had a very oppressive presence that she could only label as dark and sinister AND THAT HE WORE A HAT AND WHAT SHE CONSIDERS WAS A BLACK CAPE .

Eventually the thing stopped coming and they try to completely erase it from their memory and pretend that it never happened.
Fast forward to the time I was born and you have the past hunting you again. As I have mention in another post I had NDE when I was a newborn causing me to stay in the hospital for a good three months in the NICU . My mom says she would go visit me everyday and was happy when she was able to take me home with her . My dad had yet to see me ( believe it or not) so at that point it was just me and my 21 yrs old mom moving back to leave with my grandmother. That night we stayed with my moms older sister who lived in in a very small house next to my grandma . My mom said that around 2ish in the morning she suddenly woke up and she instantly recognized the dark presence form her childhood which was standing in my aunts side of the bedroom . This was a two bedroom house but the rooms where right next to each other with not doors, a curtain was used to separate and maintain some privacy between both rooms.

So this thing was standing behind that curtain , who knows what it was doing or planning to do or why it just didn't cross it!? My mom feeling very maternal , started cursing and telling him how it better not get near her or me . It eventually left but he came back a couple of times after that ( same scenario, just standing there unable to move forward) . My aunt after it left ( who had never felt it) asked my mom what the hell that was and that it had the most sinister presence. Almost as if the air had left and you were suffocation with the little of oxygen that remained inside your lungs.

So after much thinking It almost seems like this was MIB . Why we were target will probably remains a mystery and I sure hope I never get to see it. Because I only have to heard the fear in my moms voice to understand how evil and uncomfortable its presence must feel.

ISABEL

[shadowstalker]

@nomam2 I will Finnish ur story when I get the net back I promise

[shadowstalker]

@shadowstalker

I was wondering if the being that my mom and I when I was a newborn would count as a MIB or J-rod.

So here is the story ...


As I understand from talks with my mom and my aunts their side of the family has always had a...six sense if you would call it that . Every single person, from my cousins to my uncles and aunt and other realtives ,have witnessed , felt and/or heard spirits/ ghost. My mom has six siblings, one aunt can read the tarot card with uncanny precision, another had dreams about the future which after several traumatic ones that came to pass she blocked herself and forced herself not to 'see' anymore' .

Anyway, a taboo topic during family gatherings when I was still living in Mexico was the story of the man dressed in black that started coming to their room at the age of 12. The very mention or memory of him would cause extreme fear to the point that they would sprinkle themselves with holy water. To them this thing dressed in black is the devil but the more I think of it the more it resembles an MIB.

My my story goes like this: It would be the middle of the night and as if by appt she would wake up and feel the presence coming down the ravine ( the houses/rooms they lived in where built along the downside of a ravine) ever so slowly. This is very important piece of the puzzle because is not like she could see it with her physical eyes but she has made it very clear that she could see her with her mind getting closer to where she was sleeping , going up the stairs into her room and finally settling on the edge of the bed. The thing would sit there and I believe it was for hrs on end and would only leave when dawn was near. I cant imagine the fear my mom must have felt as she prayed and prayed for the thing to leave. But the eerie thing is that my mom , her sister and my grandmother would all fell it at the same time, as if the thing was presence in multiple locations at the same time. After he was gone my grandmother would go to their room to assure them that everything was ok and that he was finally gone.

I mean how can this be?? how can three different people separated my walls feel the same thing at the same exact time and why?

The thing never talk to them, never touched them . it just sat there on the edge of the bed for hrs on end. This when on for years, of course not every night maybe one time every six months for several years.
My mom says that it had a very oppressive presence that she could only label as dark and sinister AND THAT HE WORE A HAT AND WHAT SHE CONSIDERS WAS A BLACK CAPE .

Eventually the thing stopped coming and they try to completely erase it from their memory and pretend that it never happened.
Fast forward to the time I was born and you have the past hunting you again. As I have mention in another post I had NDE when I was a newborn causing me to stay in the hospital for a good three months in the NICU . My mom says she would go visit me everyday and was happy when she was able to take me home with her . My dad had yet to see me ( believe it or not) so at that point it was just me and my 21 yrs old mom moving back to leave with my grandmother. That night we stayed with my moms older sister who lived in in a very small house next to my grandma . My mom said that around 2ish in the morning she suddenly woke up and she instantly recognized the dark presence form her childhood which was standing in my aunts side of the bedroom . This was a two bedroom house but the rooms where right next to each other with not doors, a curtain was used to separate and maintain some privacy between both rooms.

So this thing was standing behind that curtain , who knows what it was doing or planning to do or why it just didn't cross it!? My mom feeling very maternal , started cursing and telling him how it better not get near her or me . It eventually left but he came back a couple of times after that ( same scenario, just standing there unable to move forward) . My aunt after it left ( who had never felt it) asked my mom what the hell that was and that it had the most sinister presence. Almost as if the air had left and you were suffocation with the little of oxygen that remained inside your lungs.

So after much thinking It almost seems like this was MIB . Why we were target will probably remains a mystery and I sure hope I never get to see it. Because I only have to heard the fear in my moms voice to understand how evil and uncomfortable its presence must feel.

ISABEL

Wow that was unsettling in its self.
I hope you yourself never have to go thru it..
I haven't a clue other then they seem to be observing things on a generational aspect. what they where looking for is beyond me..

[Strat]

Good lord this thread is giving me goosebumps and that "oh ****" feeling one gets when suppressed memories are showing themselves. You guys are definitely more of a target than myself (I'm not a target I don't think) but I have had dreams of very similar events. I'll give you folks a proper reply later.

Couple things that stand out which I will address in more detail later:

1 My family has a history of 'peculiar uncontrollable abilities' but they are suppressed (and would be denied if asked by anyone who isn't in the family - and some who are).

2 I also had brutal night terrors/nightmares as a kid. They occurred literally almost every night for what I remember to be a long time. 1 of them was the EXACT SAME every time until I figured out how to end it (subsequently ending all of the nightmares). One of the dreams I had was worse than the re occurring dreams. I just remember 1 image of the dream, like it's frozen in time. I don't remember exactly what happened, just another case of me screaming, crying and trembling. And I mean real trembling. That's the only time in my life that I've been so utterly afraid and it was from a frickin dream!

I couldn't have been much older than 4 years old when these dreams were going on.

Oh and I was once followed by a chopper, but I'm like 99% sure it was just a couple guys screwing with me. It was certainly peculiar though. I live in a standard US suburban area (houses and city blocks are laid out like a checkerboard). I went for a jog one day and a Coast Guard chopper followed me for HALF A MILE. Think about that for a second; you see some guy just jogging and a chopper is following him for several minutes, flying so low it's blowing tree branches. In retrospect I should've called the Coast Guard and asked about it and then demand $10 for my tax dollars they wasted on a prank (haha).

EDIT: I found that MIB pic y'all were talking about. It's actually on the PC website here:
http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/dan_burisch_interview_transcript_3_en.html

Here they are though, the original and the enhanced:

http://projectcamelot.org/mib1.jpg

http://projectcamelot.org/mib3.jpg

[Realeyes]

It has been a long time since I revisted this thread..... I suppose I needed a rest after digging deep into my memories and terrors of the MIB. I know my personal story, encounters and observations of the MIB were experienced in a 'twilight state' in dreams (out of body?) and there was still a small part of me that hoped it was all nonsense nightmares.

Well I watched the below Russian documentary about the Men in Black that was aired in December across Russia. It made my body react with uncomfortable shivers as I watched, as the description of how the MIB 'think' was exactly how I observed them in this twilight zone, with a robotic one mind state.

This documentary also mentions that the MIB have the ability to know moments before time what the victim is going to do and how they time travel/jump to 'arrive at that exact moment in the future; I would go further from my own experiences and say they can project hours ahead of time just like I have mentioned in a previous post.

The documentary mentions that the MIB are apparently not around on this planet anymore - well going by all the commentors on this thread, 'some' are still here.

I found this documentary most revealing and is certainly on the way towards disclosure!

It also shows the 'real ET image' of what the MIB really look like when they are not disguised in their clean black suits. This is really creepy and certainly sent shivers deep within my soul.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrjXmDlAYzo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrjXmDlAYzo


On Friday, December 7, the current Russian Prime Minister and former President, Dmitry Medvedev, made some startling off-air comments to reporters while his microphone was still switched on. He was asked whether the President is given any secret files on extraterrestrials while in office. In his responses, Medvedev not only confided that extraterrestrials are visiting the Earth, but that some are actually living among us. He went even further to say that the Russian documentary, "Secrets about Men in Black", could give you more details about this issue.

Ps. Not all the Russian language is translated into English - is there anyone here on PA that speaks Russian? And maybe kind enough to translate and fill in the missing bits - this would be so appreciated.

[Sirius White]

............

[shadowstalker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrjXmDlAYzo

Thank you Realeyes

I am going to watch the vid and see what I can remember and come up with.

P.s.
This thread is a year old now, I honestly didn't think folks would still be reading it let alone still telling there experiences, thank you All

[Realeyes]

Hi Shadowstalker, yes a year has flown by..... yet strangely seems longer, almost a dream...

This thread has such a great wealth of information contained within it that cannot be found anywhere else. I do hope others continue to update it when they have more information to add as the months roll on.

The Men In Black Russian documentary is very interesting... and thought provoking and perfect to be included on this thread!

[Aurvandil]

Very, very fascinating thread about a topic which have interested me a long time. I read the whole thread today, funny I haven´t seen it before. Thank you all of you, especially shadowstalker and Realeyes, for your stories. Totally mind-blowing.

There are so so many questions I come to think of. I often study folklore and see similarities between MIB and entities from our folklore. I especially find the fact that MIB seem to keep up with the times they operate in fascinating - changing style of clothes for example, even if they often seem a bit old fashioned and out of time. This is also described of "elves" taking children, often visiting the same family over a long period of time, haunting them, making them sick when they don´t obey. Trinkets and gifts are often used to make a friendly approach.

Must look into this more, I have planning to do this a long time, perhaps the time is now.

And for all of you sharing your stories, stay safe and use your energy and skills. Just wish I could give you a real hug, but in the meantime this will have to do:
:hug::hug:

[JohnEAngel]

some if not most MIB are constructs and of these there are those with no clear intent due to an inherently defective system. the process of their initialization is not exact and can result in rogue concoctions that seem to be a foreboding menace (and still may be so) but in fact have no genuine sense of direction. either way i feel for your experience and can only trust that one day our free will can decay this suppression that compounds our existence.

[Tangri]

Most of you may remember some of my story about the MIB encounters I had.
This is in Response to MrDaveArt's video MIB - Men In Black (real stories)
This video was done with text to speech, this is not my real voice as i can seem to deal with doing voice overs to well. enjoy let me know what you think.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sk5IgVqmlY

I would write to you via PM but since you put it at public view it would be too late.

Your voice change it does not help because we already now your voice here

moSYoLVo6pA

You almost put your life story at you tube, I did'not check yet but maybe I can find your Facebook page also.

[shadowstalker]

The link to my Facebook is on The youtube channel,and for how i do my vids, is how i feel at the time,

Whats on these vids are my paranormal life, not even a 5th of my life.
AS for Facebook, still not even a 5th,

[music]

Thank you everyone who has shared their stories on this thread, I have had no MIB experience, so this is interesting stuff for me. I haven't read it all yet, but will over a course of days :) I now comment for interested and curious observers: mathematically speaking, the odds are in favour of there being intelligent life elsewhere in the universe, and given our state of evolution on this planet, it's fairly probable that they are more advanced than us. My feeling is that just as most people on this planet are fundamentally good, and we are currently manipulated and oppressed by misguided sociopaths, so too do other beings suffer similar fates. I believe that just as the corrupt power is coming to its natural end here, so too elsewhere. I believe that all beings share a common source, and that source is love. We are, all of us, love-based organisms sharing a common dream/game, but as we have given ourselves the ability to feel extreme physical, emotional and psychological pain, the stakes are pretty high, even if we realise we are playing a game. Love and blessings to all, the point of the game is to remain true despite the pain and oppression, and to remake this reality so that it leads us back to our true nature.

[aquarian_monk]

The disinformation unit of the government MIB are very real and are still actively terrorizing people who have seen things that the government doesn't want them to talk about. They really have no need to kill anyone though. They understand the science of erasing someones brain if they really needed to. (No joke, i'm not just talking about the movie with will smith)

I imagine there must be some agents who feel that what they are doing is wrong and I wonder if they feel that they have done too good of a job disinforming people because now people are so darn ignorant of the truth that they would never believe even if a saucer appear right above them.