The journey to discovering my true origins

[TraineeHuman]

Snowbird requested me to start this thread. That request was in post #59 of the General Discussion thread ‘Re: Camelot Interview: What is the Alien Intervention / What can we do?’

See also posts #53 and #64 in that thread.

I’ll take it for granted that anybody reading this has first read those posts, as background.


First, discovering for certain that I was a guardian angel “on leave” has been by far the most liberating experience of my life. As we know, anybody interested in true spirituality needs to go through years of critically watching themselves. Among other things, they need to identify and accept and deal with and understand essentially all their weaknesses and failures. Of course, that very process largely heals them.

But so much fell into place once I specifically knew for certain that I was guardian angel who volunteered to live as a human. So many puzzles about why I was the strange way I was just fell away. (For me. Unfortunately, not for many of the people who have known me in the past. Or today.) Yes, I still take responsibility for my mistakes and failures and weaknesses. But now I know that so many “negatives”, as others perceive them, are usually just due to the fact that I’m different.

One example of how I’m “different” is that it’s been 9 years since I’ve experienced such a thing as boredom. I can do virtually any kind of work, and whatever it is I’ll find a way to enjoy it, guaranteed. The boredom doesn’t lie in the form of work. It totally lies within the person.

I consider I have in at least some ways regained the kind of equilibrium I had before coming to the Earth. For me now, nothing really matters. I don’t mean that in an apathetic or suicidal way. Quite the opposite. It’s a life where everything becomes fun, sort of playful – except for physical pain, maybe. You don’t actually care what others think of you, for instance – except from the point of view of what’s more to their benefit.

It doesn’t always come out much when I write, but when I talk there’s always a backhanded and slightly sarcastic humor that comes out. Kind of like: “And you expected perfection??”

Even though I’m saying “nothing matters to me”, it’s also all the more true that “everything I or you do counts”. I’m not sure how to explain that seeming contradiction.


I’m simply not a very political animal. Maybe that’s thanks to my sun in Pisces and Neptunian aspects. Even more likely, I believe, it’s due to the detachment from certain types of politics that guardian angels generally have, as I understand them – or perhaps misunderstand them, if you like.

Once when I was intensely exploring why I volunteered to come here, what came up from deep in my subconscious/unconscious was that I had in effect agreed to come to the planet as kind of sacrifice, like a scapegoat. Almost like voluntary masochism. Apparently I was not compelled to come to Earth. But on the other hand, living a life in human form would fill in some major gaps in my understanding.

Apparently the biggest gap was my lack of understanding of disharmony. Readers should appreciate that guardian angels – like other sixth-dimensional beings – live in a world that is mostly beyond time, and much more harmonious. So, I agreed to be born to parents who were essentially at war with each other, psychologically speaking, at the time I was born. It was so disharmonious that part of the nauseating birth trauma I experienced, and some subsequent traumas during my first twelve months, went something like this. I felt like I was being pulled in various different directions, to the point where whatever was “me” seemed to be totally torn apart and in a sense quite destroyed. There was simply no way my parents could rely reconcile with each other. The best they could do was declare a temporary truce. And they had agreed to do exactly that before and because of my birth. Even at that age, I felt the burden that I was somehow expected to get them back together into true harmony.

Why did I need this lesson? Well, my understanding is that most guardian angels simply don’t understand some of the insane things that go on everywhere as a “normal” part of the 3D world on Earth. Also, what I retrieved from my deep memory were details of what had happened some millions of years ago, when I had served as a guardian angel for a different intelligent species than humans.

The species was genetically modified from horses. There was a land-based form, which developed space technology and eventually evacuated from the planet, as they were being oppressed by some reptoid races who also lived on the planet at that time. There was also a water-based form. Today’s whales and dolphins are the direct descendants of that form.

I served for a very long time, and it was considered that the guardian angels of these creatures had eventually facilitated solutions which had quite satisfactory results – particularly since these creatures suffered far worse than humans do today. However, had I and other guardian angels had a fuller understanding of what oppression meant “on the ground”, solutions would have been found much quicker. I saw that my record showed a misuse of power. Let me make it clear that sixth-dimensional beings don’t essentially have ego like beings in the 3D world. It wasn’t misuse of power in the sense of power addiction or corruption or anything resembling that. Instead, it was “misuse” of great power simply due to ignorance, to a lack of sufficient knowledge/understanding of certain details.

Many seem to believe that angels are somehow perfect. They’re not. They’re just beings from a higher dimension. The guardian angels do their best. They’re 100% well-intentioned. But there are limits to what they can do. Nevertheless, they are the beings ultimately in power over the Earth. They allow various types of “Greys” to have apparent power, but that is subject to the guardian angels’ veto, or constructive "revision" or creative extension, at any time.

Just some more details about whales/dolphins and their ancestors --based on my memories (?) from millions of years ago. They are very, very sensitive creatures, much more sensitive than most humans. (Though not as finely sensitive as guardian angels.) They have two sides to their personality. One is the subtle, fine side – like a baby, or like Tolkien’s elves. The other is a rather murderous kind of anger. It’s deeply repressed, but it comes out intensely, like in an oil well. I’ve known psychics who claim that the “hell” of these beings is the worst one within the planet’s (and the planet’s astral world’s) boundaries. The same psychics also claimed there was no hope of curing these creatures of their negative side. However, in the late 70s I received some direct communication from the God Pan (who is utterly devoted to this planet and to saving it). He told me that he had liberated them from their “hell”. I guess this doesn’t mean much to some readers, but suffice it to say that the effect of that was a huge raising of the consciousnesses of all intelligent beings on the planet. (Pan works hand in glove with Gaia. These days they work in collaboration with various 3D volunteers from other planets to reverse the environmental destruction, using the advanced knowledge from those other 3D planets.)

For Snowbird’s benefit if nobody else’s, I’ll be making more jottings soon, particularly regarding some of my actual experiences.

[Kristo]

From the bottom of my heart, thank you TraineeHuman. I feel your sincerity and I resonate with so much of your Soul Story. I am looking forward to more of your 'jottings' :)
Warmly,
Kris

[wolf_rt]

Hi mate, i was wondering if you could comment on the motivations of 'guardian angels'. Are they too looking to accumulate experience, in a journey to a higher dimension?

[passiglight]

Perhaps these 2 links might point you in a rough and broad direction of your past............Well at least the past of the cration of your current vehicle.......


http://www.exopaedia.org/Earth%27s+Galactic+History Earth's galactic history,,,,

http://www.exopaedia.org/Humanoid+galactic+history Humanoid galactic history...


cosmo

[TraineeHuman]

Hi mate, i was wondering if you could comment on the motivations of 'guardian angels'. Are they too looking to accumulate experience, in a journey to a higher dimension?

They are volunteers, seeking to help make the universe a better place. A bit like Australian Volunteers Abroad. They are visiting from a higher dimension, but yes, the experience helps them progress even further.

Nearly every human being has at least two guardian angels with them from birth to death. In rare cases these beings will "resign", but others will eventually come and take up their job. Often you'll see them just weeping at the stupidity of the choices and behaviour of the individual they are assigned to.

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Perhaps these 2 links might point you in a rough and broad direction of your past............Well at least the past of the cration of your current vehicle.......


http://www.exopaedia.org/Earth%27s+Galactic+History Earth's galactic history,,,,

http://www.exopaedia.org/Humanoid+galactic+history Humanoid galactic history...


cosmo
Cosmo, I can assure you that at least some of that information is false. One example is that the Gods (at least the ones I know, such as Pan and Gaia and Shiva and co.) are absolutely of human origin and from this planet.

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I guess most Avalonians would be asking why the guardian angels don’t just round up all the individual ETs who are or may be negative or exploitative and maybe put them in jail, kind of the way that humans do? The best short answer I can offer to that goes as follows.

Firstly, as Bill Ryan has mentioned, there are currently all kinds of positive ETs from all over the galaxy and beyond who have incarnated into human form. May I point out that it’s plausible that some of the galactic judges have also done so? At a rough guess, would you say Inelia might be one example of just such a being? The galactic judges last visited a little before 3000 BC I believe, but the guardian angels tell me they’re definitely back today. That makes at least some of the things that David Wilcock and Ben Fulford claim are going on now very plausible to me.

One thing that guardian angels continually seek to do is create situations where people find it hard to avoid facing their biggest psychological problems/weaknesses – or at least being aware of them. This is because that brings accurate identification of the problem(s), which is already more than halfway to their solution – at least on an individual level. Well, the ruling elite are basically just copies of you. They’re the mirror you and all of humanity need to look in. Guardian angels are certainly responsible for overseeing the conception and birth process of each human being. So I guess you can say they’ve helped create the overpopulation problem. Why? Because they want humans to confront how abusive they are and how much they virtually all let themselves get corrupted by power.

If you imagine you’re not like that, all I can say is that my biggest psychotherapeutic obstacle has been overcoming the meanness of humans, particularly of the members of the family I grew up in. And they were just like most of you. In my experience, ETs are rarely anything like as mean. Admittedly, they’re all usually on their best behavior around guardian angels, much as humans go on their best behavior when the boss is around. But in my experience, most ETs are quite unlike humans. They’re usually much purer of heart, rather like domesticated dogs and cats and birds and guinea pigs and snakes and whatever. Take the trouble to make a gesture of friendship to a domesticated animal, and it’s your loyal friend for life. It won’t try to stab you in the back. It will always assume good things about you unless you prove otherwise.

As Bob Dean has mentioned more than once, compared to (I would say, over 99% of) other star people, humans are mean brutes. How ridiculous to imagine that other ET races must be just like you. The nasty deviousness and cunning and paranoia and sadism of the Western mind is quite unique, as far as my experience goes. Just because humans have adopted certain insane qualities as “normal”, such as a lack of generosity and a lack of genuineness, that doesn’t mean there’s even one other race out there that has adopted the same particular variety of insaneness as “normal”.

Yes, the guardian angels currently have a program of upgrading the human genome to a less brutish form – because they’re desperate to find something that will work. And the “Greys” work for them. And yes, the US government also made a deal with some renegade, nasty Greys to allow them to abduct humans as well. Before possibly deciding to intervene regarding the latter group, wouldn’t the guardian angels need some assurance or evidence that the latter group of Greys are not as mean and nasty as humans, as exemplified by the US government?

I have friendly, warm relationships with many humans, to varying degrees of closeness. But in my own therapeutic journey the theme of “just not liking humans” was seemingly endless, for years. Where did I get that complex from? Well, I had a brother three-and-a-half years older who I originally thought was ever so cool. When I was very young I kind of thought he was God, or my angel. I followed him around and learnt all the tricks and all the fun things to do, that he so conveniently was expert on already. Then he started to get a little competitive, then a lot competitive, then jealous as well and was even openly ashamed of having me near any friends of his own age. Then, my parents’ romantic relationship ended and my brother was my father’s ally in a war where I was pronounced to be my mother’s ally, without being given any say or agreeing to any such thing.

My mother was extremely possessive. Not only that, she was born into an Iluminati family, where she learnt that the way to raise a kid was to keep them in a psychological prison and use an iron rod – well, not physically (except three times, two of which didn’t come off because I was so horrified at the barbarity of “physical discipline”). It wasn’t so bad. She was extraordinarily affectionate, she was in Australia and had actually lost contact with her family, and in her heart she was a rebel against their tough discipline anyway. And I instinctively knew how to be “nothing” in some spiritual sense and not let it get too much to the real me, somehow.

I don’t want to bore you with all sorts of details of my history. Suffice it to say that humans have a way of letting you down, of figuratively kicking you in the teeth just because they can. And it’s high time for them to face it. For instance, let's face what's in David Wilcock's latest blog.

[TraineeHuman]

At Avalon people talk about the Matrix of control. Well, to anybody from a higher dimension who gets born here the social matrix looks insanely arbitrary and ridiculous. I have noticed that in my own life, and also in the lives of other people I have known who I believe were incarnated guardian angels, a line has been drawn. No matter how hard we may have tried to conform, still, at various stages of life, including childhood, we took a stand. Many stands. We decided that society is just so ridiculous in certain ways that we won’t take it seriously any more in those areas. This is similar to the reason why U.G. Krishnamurti and Eckhart Tolle and others eventually got to a point where they felt it was saner to live on the streets as a homeless person for several years. Unfortunately, in Western society that doesn’t work (drat!), as the above two discovered.

One good example is money. I’d like to bet even most 3D planets don’t have such a thing as money, although they probably do have trade and barter. I believe in any sane world that had money, there would be a meter on every street corner that dispensed hundred dollar notes for free.

Another example is sexuality. This is very heavily manipulated by the media and greatly overused by the advertising industry and other forces of persuasion and control. I don’t know of any incarnated guardian angel or higher dimensional being – myself included – who didn’t find it a source of great perplexity. At one time I was in a romantic relationship with a youngish woman who was an incarnated guardian angel. Years after knowing her, I eventually worked out that her ET origins were from that galaxy where sexuality and spirituality are almost the same thing. She was very physically attractive, and would have a partner for several months or a few months and then move on to a new one. I guess this is a little like being a perpetual overseas tourist. Once she felt she understood what was inside the soul of one partner, she moved on to a fresh horizon. By the way, g.a.s have x-ray vision. We see a great deal of whatever is going on inside of you, including things you don’t see yourself. At one point I tried to explain tantric sex to her, but unfortunately she rejected the idea because she wrongly jumped to the conclusion that it was something kinky. And she was far too headstrong to be persuaded otherwise. Yet in a way that was exactly what she was searching for in “using up” men like disposable napkins – but still leaving all of them happy and more conscious, I have no doubt.

In my own case, in my early twenties I discovered that there was a more satisfying type of sexual experience where, in the upper astral (upper 4D), one blends or merges one’s astral body with that of another. That experience is more blissful and pleasurable, it can go on for quite a few hours without stopping, and it physically energises you so that you need very little sleep that day and night. It took six years before I found a partner who was smart enough to understand.

The widespread prejudice that tantric sex had to be something “kinky” was only one reason why I found sexuality frustrating and inconvenient, even more so than most people. Maybe the biggest reason was as follows. As far as I have been able to explore, most of you humans -- well, if you’re at Avalon you probably have star seed origins in your recent past, so I guess I mean the other humans out there – most of them went through a very long reincarnational process of being mineral, then eventually vegetable, then animal, probably on some other 3D planet. In all that time you/they developed certain kinds of instinctive knowledge related to survival and behavior in a 3D world. So you developed what in another thread has been called “body consciousness”. (Although it’s very, very important to listen to your body and to the Earth, technically I would argue that that “consciousness” is part of your whole consciousness. It’s not something separate, as scientology dogmatically asserts. For now, all I’ll say in defence of my claim is as follows. There is a man who wrote a book attempting to summarise everything J. Krishnamurti taught. I don’t remember his name off hand. But this man claimed that Krishnamurti’s teaching work fell into three phases. And that in the first phase, which lasted 9 nine years, the central theme throughout was precisely that anything like “the body consciousness” is not at all separate from your total consciousness.) The point is, most humans have millions or billions of years of built up instinctual knowledge of sexuality, but the star visitor types don’t have that.

In my next post I’ll say more about my experiences of being “different”.

[Snowbird]

Wow TraineeHuman, I just now found this thread! I wasn't expecting to see it until March, if at all. This is wonderful. I have lots of questions and comments, but I will now finish reading.......

[karelia]

This is a fascinating thread, TraineeHuman! So much of what you've observed resonates with me, it's eery.

[Carmen]

Yes, fascinating thread.

[jp11]

TraineeHuman, thanks so much for this thread. Looking forward to reading more. Thank you for caring enough to share. :)

[Mulder]

I totally love this thread. It's answered some questions I've been searching for. I'm also wondering if there are 1-2 "dark" or negative guardian angels "assigned" to each person too - I've had some indications of these "unveiling" themselves in my life & heard Katherine Keating talk about this subject. Also, if my soul has been terribly hurt, can I swap with my guardian angel & one of them takes over my body, while I "ascend" to becoming the guardian angel?

[Snowbird]

TraineeHuman - But now I know that so many “negatives”, as others perceive them, are usually just due to the fact that I’m different.

I love this statement! Those who are considered "different" appear to possess negative qualities by those who are a part of the general society. We, self included, live outside of the box of society and tend to love it there...on the outside looking in. Being on the inside of the box makes me squirm.

TH - Apparently the biggest gap was my lack of understanding of disharmony.

Have you by chance noticed that you, as a peaceful gentle being, can walk into a situation or job or group of people with full intentions of harmony and getting along with everyone and within a short time, all hell breaks loose? Family, friends, jobs or wherever people gather together and there you are in their midst? I'm asking this because I have just described myself. You appear to be a peaceful person and want peaceful situations in your life. Has your life been as I have just described? The animals are the great exceptions to this disharmony.

What has caused the murderous kind of anger of the whales/dolphins and their ancestors? Is Pan indicating that by healing them of this anger, that the consciousness of Earth was raised?

TH - Often you'll see them just weeping at the stupidity of the choices and behaviour of the individual they are assigned to.

Guardian angels actually weep? Do they shed tears?

TH - Firstly, as Bill Ryan has mentioned, there are currently all kinds of positive ETs from all over the galaxy and beyond who have incarnated into human form. May I point out that it’s plausible that some of the galactic judges have also done so? At a rough guess, would you say Inelia might be one example of just such a being? The galactic judges last visited a little before 3000 BC I believe, but the guardian angels tell me they’re definitely back today. That makes at least some of the things that David Wilcock and Ben Fulford claim are going on now very plausible to me.

How would you describe a galactic judge in words? They visited thousands of years ago and they are now back? Who are they and why were/are they here? What is their function? Inelia may possibly be one of these, but she has stated that her sole purpose here on Earth is to raise the global vibrational frequency of this Earth and its inhabitants.

TH - ...all I can say is that my biggest psychotherapeutic obstacle has been overcoming the meanness of humans,...

This is so true that it is difficult to say anything more.

Are all guardian angels hermaphrodites?

[araucaria]

I have to confess to having deep misgivings about phrases like ‘ETs are much more/less ... than you humans’.

In my view it comes dangerously close to what in other contexts we would describe as elitist or even racist thinking.

If any ETs have incarnated as humans, I should think it is precisely in order to avoid making such ‘us’ and ‘them’ dichotomies by being obliged to say ‘WE humans’.

But then I am (as far as I know) just an ordinary human being saying this.

[nf857]

Hi Trainee Human,

Great post btw!


First, discovering for certain that I was a guardian angel “on leave” has been by far the most liberating experience of my life. As we know, anybody interested in true spirituality needs to go through years of critically watching themselves. Among other things, they need to identify and accept and deal with and understand essentially all their weaknesses and failures. Of course, that very process largely heals them.



I dont doubt your beleif that your a guardian angel as for your own reasons its took a lot of hardwork to get this perspective. I thought guardian angels only exited in the astral realms & only materialise if they feel the need to really 'intervene'? Are you on this material plain all the time? I think you first paragraph above works for those who feel less whole by their stregths/weaknesses, what advice for those who feel whole already? I know this sounds arrogant however ive accepted my weaknesses & my strenghts, & dont feel the need to work on them, persay, im still constantly learning, however i do just accept myself for what i am.

Can i ask what the genetically modified species that came from horses looked like? A lot of what you say resonates with me as im deeply deeply sensitive, however i dont realy care about how others perceive me, so long as i dont hurt their feelings, i.e. there peceptions of me dont effect me in anyway, as i dont have an ego if you like. If somebody says im a ugly, cow, does not really bother me at all, as they are only perceiving me at face value, & beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Ive always felt my sould was really beautiful, i have always thought that angels are not perfect they are just beings like any other form of being. However have been around a lot longer than most.

I totally resonate with the wanting peace around a gathering & it not being this way. Happens all the time for me. Also sexuality has been my biggest barrier in life, i can take or leave sex all together, not that i dont enjoy it, just that somebody has to direct me into it if you like, as i can quite happily go without it. Also ive also felt both male/female energies in my soul, however i dont feel by-sexual as im in a female body, so logically for me i prefer to co-habit with a male form x

[TraineeHuman]

Hi Trainee Human,

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First, discovering for certain that I was a guardian angel “on leave” has been by far the most liberating experience of my life. As we know, anybody interested in true spirituality needs to go through years of critically watching themselves. Among other things, they need to identify and accept and deal with and understand essentially all their weaknesses and failures. Of course, that very process largely heals them.



I dont doubt your beleif that your a guardian angel as for your own reasons its took a lot of hardwork to get this perspective. I thought guardian angels only exited in the astral realms & only materialise if they feel the need to really 'intervene'? Are you on this material plain all the time? I think you first paragraph above works for those who feel less whole by their stregths/weaknesses, what advice for those who feel whole already? I know this sounds arrogant however ive accepted my weaknesses & my strenghts, & dont feel the need to work on them, persay, im still constantly learning, however i do just accept myself for what i am.

Can i ask what the genetically modified species that came from horses looked like? A lot of what you say resonates with me as im deeply deeply sensitive, however i dont realy care about how others perceive me, so long as i dont hurt their feelings, i.e. there peceptions of me dont effect me in anyway, as i dont have an ego if you like. If somebody says im a ugly, cow, does not really bother me at all, as they are only perceiving me at face value, & beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Ive always felt my sould was really beautiful, i have always thought that angels are not perfect they are just beings like any other form of being. However have been around a lot longer than most.

I totally resonate with the wanting peace around a gathering & it not being this way. Happens all the time for me. Also sexuality has been my biggest barrier in life, i can take or leave sex all together, not that i dont enjoy it, just that somebody has to direct me into it if you like, as i can quite happily go without it. Also ive also felt both male/female energies in my soul, however i dont feel by-sexual as im in a female body, so logically for me i prefer to co-habit with a male form x

Yes, I'm totally in the material plane, just like everybody else. Otherwise I wouldn't get the full experience of what it's like to live in 3D.

It's great that you feel whole already, nf857. I can certainly relate to what you say about no longer caring what your strengths and weaknesses may be. For me, though, it's a matter of still working on them sometimes, because they're important to others and not to oneself.

What did the intelligent species modified from horses look like? The water-based ones looked much like dolphins. The land-based ones looked like dolphins without most of the smooth edges, and of course with feet, but shorter feet than horses have, and with something more like fingers at the ends. Also a larger, thicker tail than horses.

Advice? Well, firstly, why do you believe you need any advice? You've already made it, in many ways. If you haven't reached freedom from unhappiness pretty much all the time, then work on that. Once a person has continual happiness, what else matters? Then you write your own ticket, and nothing really bothers you to much. Maybe that's where you are already, though.

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Frequently in my childhood and adolescence and beyond, my mother would say: “Oh well, you wouldn’t be Peter if you didn’t do absolutely everything a different way from how the rest of the world does it.” My former wife and some other partners would quite often say much the same thing. Close friends would express puzzlement at not being able to understand me.

To me, always, to be original was totally natural because it was just to truly be, or to be myself. I learned to conform where it counted, such as, when I wasn’t self-employed, when employers required it. It was no problem, and usually employers considered my initiative and creativity to be my strongest point. How can you experience each moment as truly fresh if you aren’t fresh in it as well? It’s just not natural any other way.

I guess what adds to the puzzle for people is that when I’m not writing but just talking, my mind keeps making lateral jumps. And it’s hard for most listeners to imagine how B is relevant to A as I jump from A to B. Actually, psychotic (insane) people do the same thing. Not that I’m insane, but like such people, in me the thing that psychologists call “ego-boundaries” (not ego in the meditation/spiritual sense) have always been a little weak. Though also, creative individuals are the ones who have the greatest “ego strength” (again, not ego in the meditation sense). A reed is stronger than the wind and the river because, unlike them, it can bend very easily and stay unchanged.

One reason why I could handle being different was that from childhood on I had a strong love for myself, or self-esteem. People look – even family members and close friends – at how you treat yourself, and they mostly treat you the same way. (Well, their vision is warped and blurred by their own neuroses, But often they’ll still be able to see.) Since I had an enormous natural love for myself, my parents kind of treated me like a king. As far as I was concerned, this was the natural state of all human beings, and in that sense I wasn’t special in any way.

It’s impossible to have strong love for anybody or anything else unless you have equally strong love for your (true, inner) self. Christians supposedly believe that they have “Christ” within. Well, if Christ is truly within, then he’s a part of you. And God is very, very lovable, and quite naturally and purely so.

Another thing that helped was my early childhood contacts with nature spirits. They are like close cousins to angelic beings. When I was aged one month my parents move to a suburb where there was a beach a few minutes down the street. When I was four, though, we moved again. The house we moved to had a huge back yard, overgrown with long grasses and weeds and wild flowers. I immediately discovered that there literally were “fairies at the bottom of the garden”. I used to talk to them at times, and always said hello. About half a year later I mentioned their presence to my older brother. He emphatically but diplomatically told me they didn’t want to be discovered or even talked to. So I stopped talking to them, believing I was thereby protecting them as my brother had told me they would be in danger if I kept communicating. They did still make appearances, but mainly it was whenever I was ill in bed. They would appear on my bed near my feet or near the side of the bed. They had the ugliest faces I had ever seen, and I couldn’t help but laugh. Which was their intention – to cheer me up. I’m sure most of the ugly faces weren’t exactly their real faces. The nature spirits wherever you live or wander do many little things behind the scenes for humans, as do the g.a.s. But the reason why Nature is so refreshing is that the nature spirits keep cleaning up the energies, so to speak, so that it’s a healing environment, largely unpolluted by human thought-forms and unnatural human creations such as cars and so on.

[TraineeHuman]

I'm also wondering if there are 1-2 "dark" or negative guardian angels "assigned" to each person too - I've had some indications of these "unveiling" themselves in my life & heard Katherine Keating talk about this subject. Also, if my soul has been terribly hurt, can I swap with my guardian angel & one of them takes over my body, while I "ascend" to becoming the guardian angel?

There are no dark or negative guardian angels. However, there are what scientology calls "attaching thetans" and other groups call them various other names. My own research and observations suggest that most of the attaching spirits are the personalities (which are electromagnetic fields made of thoughts and emotions and a little consciousness) which the individual had in previous lifetimes. These are 4D, whereas guardian angels are at least 6D, as far as I know. Yes, these past personalities are dark, simply because they believe they know what is best for the individual. After all, they were the individual's identity during a previous lifetime. The problem is, with each new lifetime a person seeks to grow, to evolve further, but the attached spirits/personalities want to pull the person back into where they were at in one or more previous lifetimes -- because that's all that the attached personality knows! This is very dangerous. I've seen it apparently cause insanity in several cases.

Are there other "dark" 4D beings that a person can be corded to? Certainly, though in the vast majority of cases I would be much more concerned about cords to living human beings in the 3D world.

Can a human swap places with one of their guardian angels? Well, I guess it could be possible if the human had reached a certain level of development and the g.a. for some reason was at the very same time willing to incarnate because of some special task or project.

[TraineeHuman]

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TH - Apparently the biggest gap was my lack of understanding of disharmony.

Have you by chance noticed that you, as a peaceful gentle being, can walk into a situation or job or group of people with full intentions of harmony and getting along with everyone and within a short time, all hell breaks loose? Family, friends, jobs or wherever people gather together and there you are in their midst? I'm asking this because I have just described myself. You appear to be a peaceful person and want peaceful situations in your life. Has your life been as I have just described? The animals are the great exceptions to this disharmony.
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I guess I tend to automatically put my consciousness around the entire group. Another way to put it is that I kind of identify with everybody in the group, and kind of absorb their feelings. In doing so I believe I bring a certain small level of healing. It's quite habitual for me. At the risk of sounding conceited, I know that I automatically always bring some psychic healing into any situation involving others. But it isn't a peaceful experience for me, beyond the fact that I can feel the peace (or the "I am" and so on) that's always there at a deeper level.

[TraineeHuman]

What has caused the murderous kind of anger of the whales/dolphins and their ancestors? Is Pan indicating that by healing them of this anger, that the consciousness of Earth was raised?[/COLOR][/B]


For a long time the ancestors of whales and dolphins were repressed very badly by other, more dominant species on the planet at the time. I don't want to excite imaginations by going into any of the gory details. Those ancestors were simply banned totally from expressing their anger at the injustice done to them, a little like in the former Soviet Union. They were treated like outright slaves. Electronic control of every individual was certainly part of this. Over a very long period they were conditioned into all having a certain type of personality. The repression would be hard for many people to even imagine.

Yes, we are all far more closely interconnected than we may dare to imagine. Even more so, we are interconnected with the consciousness of the Earth.

[TraineeHuman]

Guardian angels actually weep? Do they shed tears?

TH - Firstly, as Bill Ryan has mentioned, there are currently all kinds of positive ETs from all over the galaxy and beyond who have incarnated into human form. May I point out that it’s plausible that some of the galactic judges have also done so? At a rough guess, would you say Inelia might be one example of just such a being? The galactic judges last visited a little before 3000 BC I believe, but the guardian angels tell me they’re definitely back today. That makes at least some of the things that David Wilcock and Ben Fulford claim are going on now very plausible to me.

How would you describe a galactic judge in words? They visited thousands of years ago and they are now back? Who are they and why were/are they here? What is their function? Inelia may possibly be one of these, but she has stated that her sole purpose here on Earth is to raise the global vibrational frequency of this Earth and its inhabitants.

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Are all guardian angels hermaphrodites?

When I said g.a.s weep, I didn't mean physically. G.a.s have feelings and sensings, but not emotion. I see "sensing" as something that exists in a number of higher dimensions.

Sorry, but I don't know a great deal about the galactic judges. There are so many different areas where I can't claim to be expert at all.

Hermaphrodites? There's a lot of truth in that, actually, though they may choose to project a form in 4D that looks like one gender only. It's also common for one g.a. assigned to an individual to be nurturing rather like a "female role" and the other to be tough-minded like a "male role".

[nf857]

Frequently in my childhood and adolescence and beyond, my mother would say: “Oh well, you wouldn’t be Peter if you didn’t do absolutely everything a different way from how the rest of the world does it.” My former wife and some other partners would quite often say much the same thing. Close friends would express puzzlement at not being able to understand me.

To me, always, to be original was totally natural because it was just to truly be, or to be myself. I learned to conform where it counted, such as, when I wasn’t self-employed, when employers required it. It was no problem, and usually employers considered my initiative and creativity to be my strongest point. How can you experience each moment as truly fresh if you aren’t fresh in it as well? It’s just not natural any other way.

I guess what adds to the puzzle for people is that when I’m not writing but just talking, my mind keeps making lateral jumps. And it’s hard for most listeners to imagine how B is relevant to A as I jump from A to B. Actually, psychotic (insane) people do the same thing. Not that I’m insane, but like such people, in me the thing that psychologists call “ego-boundaries” (not ego in the meditation/spiritual sense) have always been a little weak. Though also, creative individuals are the ones who have the greatest “ego strength” (again, not ego in the meditation sense). A reed is stronger than the wind and the river because, unlike them, it can bend very easily and stay unchanged

Yes pretty much how my life has been also, im the reed, i never change, no matter how people what my to conform to their liking, im me. Yes people think im a 'nutter' yet have been 'un-able' to proof it as i dont fit into their beleifs of this, 'im not psychotic' i dont suffer with 'Bi-polar' 'Depression' 'Pszchproneia' etc etc. I was bullied in my formative years, however they only taught me the 'human flaws' i view humans as 'pets', you can be nice to them, & they can take the love you give them, or they can turn and 'bite you in your ass' even after you give them un-conditional love, 'they' are never 'happy', almost like 'spoilt children', what they call 'grown-up' is 'hiding their inner child' as society teaches them to ''conform'. Yes you still have to learn, constantly, i understand how you jump from 'A-B' however you have been from 'A-Z' havent you? BTW i ask your advice to see if it resonates with my own knowing? As for me my biggest problem is 'faith' ive learnt that my 'human flaw' is 'faith', i think because maybe ive been very 'unfaithful' before, i was brought up with the most 'difficult' parents, parents that abuse, 'toxic parents' they not just abuse the body, they abuse the mind as well, almost playing games with your 'mind'. I then had the 'worse' friends growing up, they were not nice friends, friends you can trust, they would just 'use' you, not that i mind being 'used' ever, which dumbfounds most people, however im a martyr so i just dont mind at all.


Another thing that helped was my early childhood contacts with nature spirits. They are like close cousins to angelic beings. When I was aged one month my parents move to a suburb where there was a beach a few minutes down the street. When I was four, though, we moved again. The house we moved to had a huge back yard, overgrown with long grasses and weeds and wild flowers. I immediately discovered that there literally were “fairies at the bottom of the garden”. I used to talk to them at times, and always said hello. About half a year later I mentioned their presence to my older brother. He emphatically but diplomatically told me they didn’t want to be discovered or even talked to. So I stopped talking to them, believing I was thereby protecting them as my brother had told me they would be in danger if I kept communicating. They did still make appearances, but mainly it was whenever I was ill in bed. They would appear on my bed near my feet or near the side of the bed. They had the ugliest faces I had ever seen, and I couldn’t help but laugh. Which was their intention – to cheer me up. I’m sure most of the ugly faces weren’t exactly their real faces. The nature spirits wherever you live or wander do many little things behind the scenes for humans, as do the g.a.s. But the reason why Nature is so refreshing is that the nature spirits keep cleaning up the energies, so to speak, so that it’s a healing environment, largely unpolluted by human thought-forms and unnatural human creations such as cars and so on.

OMG yes ive seen them too, however dont seem to be able to anymore, i think because of the 'conforming' to 'normality', im conditioned to beleive 'they are fantasy' as my mum and dad used to always tell me, however i know i saw them, exactly how you did. They were so nice to me. I wish they could be here now, as im constantly in bed with severe M.E/Fibromyalgia, which i know is a man-made disease, ive done all the research into this, it is 'the control' we all talk about' so i am being punished by 'the control' for questioning it? How would the nature spirits reverse this? As this was not 'Natural' it was done by either injection/pollution in the sky/or a bite?

I bet the biggest insult to you is the 'Lynx' advert with our conceptual view of an 'angel' do 'angels' really look so 'beautiful' words cant express it? As the 'Lynz' advets just show an ideal image of a normal woman idealogy the biggest trick in the books, conforming to anothers idealogy of self.


For a long time the ancestors of whales and dolphins were repressed very badly by other, more dominant species on the planet at the time. I don't want to excite imaginations by going into any of the gory details. Those ancestors were simply banned totally from expressing their anger at the injustice done to them, a little like in the former Soviet Union. They were treated like outright slaves. Electronic control of every individual was certainly part of this. Over a very long period they were conditioned into all having a certain type of personality. The repression would be hard for many people to even imagine.



Are we not in the same repression? Are we not these beings? In all its many forms? How does a cat feel? We always few domestic cats as 'having the life of luxury' however do they view it as the life of luxury? They were once free to roam the lands, now they are in 'servitude' to humans in a sense as they 'depend' on our 'feeding' them, 'nurturing' them etc etc. Which is why parenting ideals are useless? Well they were in my case anyway, im sure people have had lots of positive parenting, however ive found that those with the most 'positive parenting' grow up with an 'un-realistic' view of 'reality'. They dont seem to be able to handle it. Which makes me think hmmm my awful parenting was a great lesson, 'trial from adversity'. Are you a mother? Can you relate to this from a parents perspective? As parents go off there parenting & down the family tree we go lol!

P.S Please tell us the 'gory' details, tells us everything,in this section we can handle it, we have seen enough of it to be able to already, im sure we all want to know this, as 'dolphins' are the most 'nicest/intelligent' creature on 'earth' we want to know, what was created inside of them, it was not their fault at all? P.S thanks for the description of the horse creatures, could you email me a drawing of them? x

[TraineeHuman]

I'm also wondering if there are 1-2 "dark" or negative guardian angels "assigned" to each person too - I've had some indications of these "unveiling" themselves in my life & heard Katherine Keating talk about this subject.

Mulder, you've raised a big issue here. In addition to my first reply to this question above, let me describe what I have experienced. Just after turning eight I discovered I could do "miracle" healings -- with some kind of help via what must have been my own g.a.s. The first one was on my mother. She had had a ruptured appendix for over three hours before she got to hospital, and she was extremely allergic to the penicillin the doctors were initially trying to keep her alive with. I tried to "pray" in accordance with the Christian teaching, though mostly I found myself generating and sending huge amounts of very bright white light, plus a very strong intention. My mother was working full-time again in a busy job before the week was up. The family doctor -- a man of science and scepticism -- said it was the biggest miracle he had seen in 35 years of practice. Mostly I needed to heal my mother of her depression -- because as an adult I realise she was trying to commit suicide. The psychological/emotional side to healing is always at least 99% of the healing, even though the immediately tangible results will be physical. In doing this I also managed to move the negative or dark energies out of the 3D and 4D worlds.

Later on, in my twenties, moving those energies out of 3D and 4D was what I came to know as "ascension". Everything is alive. All the negativities or problems or ego inside a person is alive. If someone (which can be the person themselves) practises some type of psychotherapy on a person, or its equivalent, that may dislodge little or even large electromagnetic fields which are darkly oriented. These will then go floating through the ether, looking for another human being to latch onto. Perhaps a new-born infant, who are the most vulnerable to this. It's therefore highly irresponsible to do any kind of psychotherapy / etc on others unless you clean up afterwards.

In my twenties I learned to "run the energies" of others and of myself, but initially I didn't think of combining that with a proper psychic healing. Instead I learnt an "ascension" method for sending all the negative energies that came off a client up into 5D. The method I used at that time was the ascension ritual of the Kosmon "Church". They weren't a Christian organisation, but they claimed to be the first religion ever on the planet. Their book is the book of Oahspe, though many of them also seem to swear by the book of Urantia as well. They claimed that they worked with "angels" who took all the greeblies up and away. I guess they may well have been healing angels, who at least sometimes come from the fifth dimension where as far as I know g.a.s are always at least 6D. When a client ended cycle on an issue I would usually see violet light coming in, which I came to know as the healing angels who took the nasties upstairs. Today I no longer need to call on their help because they come anyway, and I suspect I can "ascend" the nasties into 5D on my own now. But it took much practice and time and work before I learnt how to do this.

These "nasties" that I refer to are like very tiny personalities. They're not like an entire you, whereas the past-life personalities usually are kind of equal in size to your current identity.

One very simple ascension method for ascension of the little nasties is as follows. Close your eyes in a well-lit room and "look" at which parts of the room you are in seem darker. Wherever it seems to be darker, that's where there's a little patch of darker energy. Simply keep your awareness on it, and it will grow lighter and then disappear.

I have to add that the only way you can ever get rid of anything that's part of your dark or negative side is by first totally accepting it. Paradoxically, that is what gets rid of it. I don't mean go out and be rude , nasty, violent, or whatever. But I do mean please be honest enough with yourself to face what's hiding between the cracks and in the shadows inside you, that you may only ever glimpse momentarily. You can only be good by first becoming good. Unfortunately, for centuries religions have told people to "be good", and as a result people hide from themselves all the ways in which they aren't currently good.

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I have to add that the only way you can ever get rid of anything that's part of your dark or negative side is by first totally accepting it. Paradoxically, that is what gets rid of it. I don't mean go out and be rude , nasty, violent, or whatever. But I do mean please be honest enough with yourself to face what's hiding between the cracks and in the shadows inside you, that you may only ever glimpse momentarily. You can only be good by first becoming good. Unfortunately, for centuries religions have told people to "be good", and as a result people hide from themselves all the ways in which they aren't currently good.

I totally agree with this, wholeheartdly, we are human beings, good/bad, black/white,nasty/nice, whoever says that they are just 'nice' is lieing to oneself, that is why i hate the dogmatic religions, they only teach 'fear'. If you don't stick to a code of conduct, you are out. However it is living by this code of conduct, that represses the 'dark' within them, it also makes them think 'they are above' other people, ive found particularly the christian faith to be like this, one half of my family are 'christians', the other broke away from it, now there is a divide between those who beleif & those who dont. However those that dont, dont have anything against those that do, where as they ones that do, definitly have something against the ones that dont. This has been clear for nearly twenty years. If we dont follow what their beleifs are, we are wrong, sinners etc etc! Any god who treats his house like a members only club is not God to me! However it does not make me any better or worse than those who beleif in it. I just prefer to acknowledge that i am all i was, all i am, & all i ever will be! That is accepting ones weaknesses and seeing them as strengths. Accepting i am not perfect. I have spiritual beleifs, however my faith is my biggest problem, as i never can take the leap x

[TraineeHuman]

Araucaria’s makes the criticism that I would seem to be setting up an “us versus them” dichotomy in describing how g.a.s differ from the average human, so to speak. My reply to this is as follows. In all my experience, all ETs see themselves as being ultimately at one with, and sharing a sameness with, human beings. And that is quite different from the way many humans – possibly including a number of members of the Forum, it would seem -- often automatically presume that any and all ETs are very “other”. In what I have read, it seems that even negative, or supposedly negative, ETs also think of themselves as ultimately “same as” rather than “different from” humans.

As I mentioned in posts #4 and #6 in the Spirituality thread ‘Request to the archangels’, there is a very precise reason why the angelic beings do not intervene or interfere beyond a certain point. This has effectively nothing to do with the angelic beings lacking the power to do so. They do have the power. It’s simply because the only way a community – including the whole human community – can be saved is by (largely) saving itself, though with some support and skills enhancement; plus intervention whenever things get really sticky and beyond humanity’s apparent ability to handle at the time. And yes, araucaria, in that sense you are right. I certainly am using a dichotomy between humans and g.a.s – but it only exists because in fact most of humanity is not as yet ready for the freedoms of living in the sixth dimension.

I’m sure many Avalonians are of recent ET origin. I’ll bet that, like me, they are interested in the topics discussed on Avalon because they have a memory or at least a strong sense that society can easily be more utopian than it currently is on Earth. Kind of like our society, only not as insane, not as corrupt, not as violent and ungenerous.

The problem regarding being perceived as “different” was for me – and I assume it’s similar for any ET incarnating as a human – that I found it insufferably unnatural not to be original in the way I did even small things. And that made me and still makes me seem extremely “other” or “different” to other humans. It was they – the other humans -- who had and have the problem, not me, I believe -- though I'm always looking for how to adapt better.

That is undoubtedly why I chose to be born to immigrant parents in Australia. I needed to learn about being “different”. When I was a child in the fifties in Australia, the racial prejudice was enormous. Most migrants – probably 90% -- of my parents’ generation felt there was something extremely shameful and dirty about themselves purely because they were migrants. Instead of standing up to the idiocy of racial prejudice, they internalised it and beat themselves up. They never got over it. It was jawdropping for me to see.

As an adult, I can understand that for my parents and compatriots the second world war was like suddenly going bankrupt, only worse. They suddenly lost everything they had owned and everything they were familiar with. Australia at the time did not recognize any tertiary qualifications except from Oxford or Cambridge Universities. My parents and their compatriots had no option but to start afresh at the bottom of the social ladder – initially as de facto slaves. Imagine getting up in the morning and everywhere you go and in everything you do you see the evidence. The “evidence” that for all your best efforts and everything you thought you had built in your life, you now see that it was not enough. Because everywhere you go, you are treated like the lowest of the low. You would have to advanced a very long way in not giving the ego too much significance not to jump to severe negative conclusions about yourself. That was what it was like to be a migrant in Australia in the fifties and sixties. That was what it was like to be considered “other” or “different”.

I remember on one occasion in 1961 a fellow classmate had invited me over to his house. I arrived on my bicycle. The house was in the poor end of town, but had a large curved driveway made of gravel and stones. As my bicycle entered the driveway I noticed my classmate and his sister were throwing small stones at me. I then noticed their father was there as well. He was throwing larger rocks. Unlike his kids, he seemed to be aiming to hit my bike, if not me. He said something about how I didn’t deserve to live in Australia because the migrants were taking jobs away from Australians. Two rocks hit my bike’s spokes and caused some damage, but not enough to prevent me from turning around and riding on. Admittedly, that was an isolated incident. But it does give an idea of the rejection that I continually received in subtler forms simply because I had a migrant surname.

Racism, of course, is one of the practical manifestations of "dumbing down" -- along with all the other "isms". Sexism, homophobia, ageism (prejudice against employing older people; and yet most psychologists who study intelligence now agree that a person reaches peak intelligence in their fifties or sixties); discrimination against people with a disability, and so on.

I’m sure that all ETs incarnated as humans do their best to adapt and be “ordinary”. At the same time, they have the dilemma that they also need to stay true to themselves. I’m sure they also have a stronger connection with their Higher Self than humans generally do, because they have some kind of maybe vague memory of how it was when they lived in a higher dimension.

[araucaria]

Yes, Traineehuman: get off your bike :)

[TraineeHuman]

In this post I will briefly describe what I believe I know about “fallen angels”. I observe there is all sorts of speculation on this Forum regarding these and similar. Most of the speculation seems to be based on limited experience or no experience.

Firstly, as far as my experience goes these are virtually synonymous with some, if not most, demonic beings or entities. My first encounters with such an entity occurred between the ages of six and up until I was almost nine. Most nights, before I went to sleep I would notice that there was some kind of demonic entity –the same one every time -- that appeared to be outside my bedroom window. I would do my best to pray for or ask for protection from it. Eventually I noticed that as soon as I stopped feeling fear, the entity had to leave. I also came to the conclusion that the protection and self-healing I invoked each night always apparently, worked, despite my initial fears.

As time went on, eventually I noticed that demonic entities seemed to have no power at all unless a person invited them in. Later, I discovered that, at least in the fourth dimension, all demonic beings and “fallen gods” have been permanently banished since over three thousand years ago. (I take it, then, that the stories about how the fallen angels fell from heaven are talking about a period thousands of years ago, and therefore don’t including the subsequent banning of the “dark angels” from being on this planet.) The only thing that’s left is their personalities. These are electromagnetic fields that have a little consciousness but are nowhere as powerful as the original being, even though they contain all the knowledge the original being had. Also, the personalities, which can live for up to a few thousand years, are continually growing weaker, and will eventually die (“burn up in hell fire”).

This is why somebody like the Black Pope, for instance, would have been no match for a human with sufficiently strong positive healing energies. In her interview with Bill Ryan, Inelia describes how she was sent to heal the then Black Pope, even though in that interview she doesn’t identify who he was. It’s no surprise to me to hear that after her healing visits that lasted I think three full weeks, he experienced the most extraordinary breakthrough. The dark energies aren’t somehow equally matched to the energies of light. (Why the endless paranoia on this Forum? Be paranoid about nasty humans, folks. If they weren’t there, no (personalities of) “dark angels” or whatever would cause even a minor problem.) The dark energies have no choice but to retreat and grow smaller and smaller, or be removed altogether and ascend into a different dimension, now converted into a positive form.

Sometimes when I am doing a psychic healing I see black or dark brown figures appear and try to challenge me. What happens is that they very quickly retreat or disappear or get dissolved, because that's what happens when you shine pure (healing) light on them. I experienced this recently. The client was somebody who was very strict, very self-disciplined. Yes, true spirituality does require a certain amount of self-discipline and self-denial. But it also requires at least as much of being kind to yourself. Anyway, any Christian reader will probably hate that I say it became very clear that this client’s self-discipline was full of black energy. The client was a devout Christian. During the healing I also initially saw three black entities who were parental or grandparental personalities of that client, who had been brought up in a traditional Chinese way. (This means that as a child you’re not supposed to have any opinions of your own. You’re supposed to adopt your parents’ opinions, no correspondence entered into.) It turned out that the asthma this client was suffering from had a psychological cause. My fifteen minute healing apparently made the asthma much weaker. However, as long as this client continues to be so strict with herself and her family, I suspect some asthma may still affect her – because her strictness, of which she is so self-righteously proud, is unfortunately made of dark energy.

[TraineeHuman]

As for me my biggest problem is 'faith' ive learnt that my 'human flaw' is 'faith', i think because maybe ive been very 'unfaithful' before, i was brought up with the most 'difficult' parents, parents that abuse, 'toxic parents' they not just abuse the body, they abuse the mind as well, almost playing games with your 'mind'. I then had the 'worse' friends growing up, they were not nice friends, friends you can trust, they would just 'use' you, not that i mind being 'used' ever, which dumbfounds most people, however im a martyr so i just dont mind at all.

... im constantly in bed with severe M.E/Fibromyalgia, which i know is a man-made disease, ive done all the research into this, it is 'the control' we all talk about' so i am being punished by 'the control' for questioning it? How would the nature spirits reverse this? As this was not 'Natural' it was done by either injection/pollution in the sky/or a bite?
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Are we not in the same repression? Are we not these beings? In all its many forms? How does a cat feel? We always few domestic cats as 'having the life of luxury' however do they view it as the life of luxury? They were once free to roam the lands, now they are in 'servitude' to humans in a sense as they 'depend' on our 'feeding' them, 'nurturing' them etc etc. Which is why parenting ideals are useless? Well they were in my case anyway, im sure people have had lots of positive parenting, however ive found that those with the most 'positive parenting' grow up with an 'un-realistic' view of 'reality'. They dont seem to be able to handle it. Which makes me think hmmm my awful parenting was a great lesson, 'trial from adversity'. Are you a mother? Can you relate to this from a parents perspective? As parents go off there parenting & down the family tree we go lol!

P.S Please tell us the 'gory' details, tells us everything,in this section we can handle it, we have seen enough of it to be able to already, im sure we all want to know this, as 'dolphins' are the most 'nicest/intelligent' creature on 'earth' we want to know, what was created inside of them, it was not their fault at all? P.S thanks for the description of the horse creatures, could you email me a drawing of them? x

Firstly, nf857, I've noticed that it seems that among my friends and acquaintances, past and present (in this lifetime), it's more common than not for at least one parent or sibling or spouse to be insane or very abusive. I wouldn't see that as a weakness or as a bad card that fate has dealt you. I'd see it as a kind of compliment to be given such a tougher challenge to solve, which will undoubtedly help one evolve faster, provided they learn to be strong enough to cope. If you're really a martyr as you say, surely that's never a smart thing to be. (You asked for some advice?)

Secondly, some conditions are very chronic and can't be healed even in a number of sessions. But if it's possible for you to get out of bed long enough to visit natural places, I'm sure you'll get some healing help from the nature spirits there. Even if it should not bring much by way of physical improvement, they'll bring healing to the inner you so that you can handle the fibromyalgia better.

Most domestic cats are quite happy as far as I know, provided at least some person or creature shows them regular affection.

As for "details", gory or otherwise, let me offer this. The land-based form was about two or three feet tall, but quite long – maybe as long as a dolphin today. It had a shape which was oddly similar to that of the Australian platypus. You can look up platypuses on the internet, I guess. It was several times bigger than a platypus and it had a long “snout” like a horse instead of the duck bill that the platypus has. But they both usually have a body covered with brown fur, as far as I remember, and a huge broad tail. The fur may well have been what they wore to keep warm, though. Maybe also not unlike a giant brown horse-like rabbit, minus long ears.

The most vivid memory I have is that not long before the land-based ones escaped from the tyranny, some of them had large chunks of steel inserted in their bodies, particularly in one of the front limbs and near the shoulder. This made movement excruciatingly painful for them, and also adversely affected their hearts. Somehow all the land-based ones knew that this had been done to some of them. I don’t know if it was some sort of attempt to half-robotise these creatures, but I do know it was horribly painful for them. I also know that it backfired, completely. It spurred them on to develop their technology more quickly, even though they had to do so in secret. The guardian angels were shocked by the metal insertions, and did intervene to a greater degree than they would be willing to do today. Unless, of course, the ruling elite should become foolish enough to try to half-robotise the human population. I’m pretty sure the higher ET races would simply not tolerate such a move. I don’t remember all the details of all the oppression that happened. But I remember that this was the worst thing.

[TraineeHuman]

I happen to know that before a human lifetime is even conceived, you go through a process of carefully selecting and identifying, with expert advice, what purposes or goals you plan to achieve or work on in that lifetime. (Then you get to watch something like movies about your potential parents, you choose your parents, you "eat" a special energy the g.a.s give you that somehow cords you to those parents' sperm and ovum, and off you go, tumbling down to Earth.)

After you are born, as an adult you can get some idea of what your true lifetime purposes and goals might be by keeping a diary of your dreams, if possible. They are the things you keep not wanting to face, or not face fully. It’s possible to identify these if you just take each dream as a picture of part of whatever it is that you currently don’t want to face. It’s a tough planet to be on, a tough school. Interestingly, too, you can then take a second look at your dream as a picture of some of your biggest strengths or best qualities. You can then celebrate and continue to develop that side of yourself too, making the school less tough after all.

Although I don’t know the full details, I believe I know that many ETs have incarnated as humans at this time on certain special projects. As far as I can tell, the majority of them did not come as full volunteers, as I apparently did. They came because it was semi-compulsory. I guess it’s a little like having to complete a certain number of units in some category before you can receive a university degree or other qualification. But in the last five decades or so, Earth has obviously been a popular "unit" to "enrol in". Most such incarnated ETs seem to be working in what are known as the helping professions, or the caring professions: social work, education, health, counselling, and so on and on. Their choice of profession must presumably have something to do with their assigned project in each case.

I know I came with an assignment to gather understanding and information in certain areas, for the benefit of both improving my own work as a g.a. and to fill in some gaps for other g.a.s But my “project assignment” seems to have been considerably vaguer than with the other types of ET incarnates. For instance, my parents had very fixed ideas of what kinds of occupations were suitable for me, which they conveyed to me in various ways even at a young age. The caring or helping professions were very much at the bottom of their list, no doubt almost equal to a life of crime or toilet cleaning. So, before I could comfortably work in any of those professions I would have had to overcome some of the deepest parental conditioning placed on me. You can eventually remove layers of conditioning from yourself, rather like removing layers of an onion. But then you get to the bottom-most layer. I certainly haven’t been able to remove most of that, and I’m not sure if anyone does so fully.

For this reason, it seems clear that before I was born, part of the plan was for me to have lengthy experiences of some areas that were very dissimilar to the general kind of work that g.a.s do. And so it has turned out, that over half my areas of work have not been in the fields of helping/caring or the fine arts. My work experience has covered a huge diversity of fields. I guess the idea was to make good use of my ticket to Earth, if possible.

In anyone's life, however, as we grow more and more in emotional maturity with each year, at some point we may realise that all the pieces fit together into an integrated whole. Every piece had a purpose, and we even chose it at some level. For example, I worked for over five years in or near relatively senior levels of corporate environments, where I got to see the workings of the ruling elite being implemented and the whole type of milieu in which it was done. A world where money was really no object. I now appreciate why that form of work was a part of my information-gathering assignment.

[Snowbird]

A little something that I found today.

http://www.angeliclight.co.uk/angelguitar.gif

[TraineeHuman]

I have observed that a person’s g.a.s mostly stay in the borderland between the fifth and sixth dimensions. They do come down lower, but then retreat back to that location. For instance, on rare occasions they will intervene to avert something like a serious accident, and to do so they will briefly and temporarily enter the 3D world.

By staying mostly in the fifth/sixth dimensional border, they are really nested almost inside the person, but at a high level. The sixth-dimensional part of a person is a very interesting thing. You can truly say it isn’t a “self” or “mind”, or that it is “beyond” any self and mind, at least in some senses of those words. Let me explain a little.

The sixth-dimensional part of a person isn’t selfish. It isn’t motivated to act to satisfy the personality or ego – or whatever/whoever a person usually thinks they are. Instead, it knows that who we really are is the universe, even if it’s the universe as seen from one particular, unique “angle”. The sixth-dimensional part is identical (or close to it) to what many would call the Higher Self. Many Christians would call it God, or Christ. I’d like to point out that it does actually act a lot, and often, in the 3D and 4D world. The 3D, 4D and 5D worlds are the province of the ego. How the 6D part comes in is that without it all the negative emotions like jealousy, greed, fear, etc would run riot. The 6D part is what brings balance and peace and maturity into our emotions and feelings. It’s what brings peace, period. So it (or, if you like, the Higher Self) is an everyday thing, even though many people are unaware that such a profound thing is continually there in all the ordinary activities of their life.

(And I don’t see the ego as something bad, at all. Unless it tries to be the captain of the ship, which is the 6D part’s job, rather than just doing its job as the ship’s lookout.)

In the small number of individuals I’ve known who I’m sure are incarnated g.a.s, and also in others who are at least relatively recently incarnated ETs from another dimension, there is an enormous inner motivation, an enormous drivenness. This is because they were all born without losing a strong sense of the presence of their 6D part. Even though through incarnating into 3D they may initially see it kind of “through a glass, foggily”, these individuals differ from most others in that they absolutely sense that the 6D part is what’s more real and more true, and they sense this strongly even from childhood.

They march to that “other” drummer, even if, at least in childhood and adolescence, they may not be clear where that drummer is leading them. Doesn’t matter. Imagine being born into a world you can clearly see from the start is insane. I mean, life is mostly made up of relationships and work. But on this planet, genuine relationship is substituted for by attachment, which is an absolute mockery of true relationship. Similarly, instead of being something joyful and playful, work is sold as being something a person hates – and so the person becomes a house divided against itself because they then spend moiré than half their effort on resisting their own hate/boredom instead of on doing the job.

It’s interesting that the g.a.s prefer to stay just at the threshold of their protegee’s 6D part. I’ll say more about this in my next post.

[Snowbird]

I have been reading about G.A.s and studying this issue because I identify with central aspects of the G.A.s. I just read that guardian angels are actually 6th dimensional aspects of our own multidimensional selves. This actually makes a degree of sense to me.

Question(s): Would you say that all or most G.A.s in human incarnation are also Indigo? Indigos are considered to have 5th and 6th DNA strands activated.

How does an incarnated G.A. differ from an incarnated Starseed for example? I think that my specific question is more along the line of, what are the differences in species-classifications between the consciousness of the G.A.s and the Starseeds, again for example? Angels are classified differently from extraterrestrials or humans. What is that difference?

[TraineeHuman]

I have been reading about G.A.s and studying this issue because I identify with central aspects of the G.A.s. I just read that guardian angels are actually 6th dimensional aspects of our own multidimensional selves. This actually makes a degree of sense to me.

Question(s): Would you say that all or most G.A.s in human incarnation are also Indigo? Indigos are considered to have 5th and 6th DNA strands activated.

How does an incarnated G.A. differ from an incarnated Starseed for example? I think that my specific question is more along the line of, what are the differences in species-classifications between the consciousness of the G.A.s and the Starseeds, again for example? Angels are classified differently from extraterrestrials or humans. What is that difference?

Snowbird, I'm glad to hear that you're recognising you evidently have recent ET origins, and have possibly or probably been an angel in the recent past. As I've said, it was certainly a massively liberating experience for me when my own origins got confirmed. Probably more liberating and more of a relief than anything else in my life.

My best understanding is as follows. All angels are strictly volunteers. Incarnated angels are doubly volunteers, because being in human form means taking a rest from the guardian angel role. I understand that role is to be a “watcher who sees the very big picture” and a “subtle influencer/teacher, and protector in extreme or sticky situations” throughout the life of the human being the g.a. is assigned to.

Most star seeds, to my quite limited knowledge and observation, aren’t full volunteers. It’s not so much that they incarnate in this vale of tears as a “punishment”. It’s more that their career opportunities, for lack of a better term, are limited unless they acquire further qualifications. And just getting through a lifetime on Earth is itself quite a qualification. I know you're asking for more details than that, but I can't find seem to them at present.

Both star seeds and angels seem to have a finer, deeper level of sensitivity. As a result, they find themselves carrying the burden of the sadness of humanity in general. I remember how frequently in my childhood I used to spend time looking at photos of myself from some years earlier and wondering where the sadness in my face came from. I remember I would kind of resignedly think oh well, it’s just part of living in this society. Something inside me knew that life was originally meant to be fun, and is fun for everyone on many planets in 3D or 4D, no doubt.

As far as I can tell, guardian angels are largely free of 3D and 4D “karma” but that’s not always true of all star seeds or indigos, as far as I’ve been able to observe. Being free of “karma” means something like having an extreme inner fineness or gentleness and a capacity to empathise with anybody and a certain kind of “well-roundedness” – in a way like in a sport team some players are “utilities” because they can play well both at offence and at defence and in different roles such as both forward and back. That sounds vague, I know. But if you look deep inside a person you can see how most people are very "lopsided" but some are very "rounded", kind of capable of being almost anything. I understand that the famous saying of Rabbi ben Hillel (from the first and second centuries BC) that "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth" was deliberately mistranslated in the Gospels. I understand a correct translation would replace "meek" with something like "adaptable".

Unfortunately I don’t know know anything about the fifth or sixth strands of DNA.

I would say that both star seeds/indigos and angels add significantly to the group consciousness of humanity just by incarnating. It may sound odd, but an important part of their contribution comes just from their being here.

Finally, angels aren't really "classified differently from extraterrestrials". Rather, certain extraterrestrials, from many different ET races, volunteer to work as angels if they are so moved, and those extraterrestrials need to have achieved certain levels of evolvement before they are qualified to do that work.

[lunaflare]

yes, relate to this trainee:

Both star seeds and angels seem to have a finer, deeper level of sensitivity. As a result, they find themselves carrying the burden of the sadness of humanity in general. I remember how frequently in my childhood I used to spend time looking at photos of myself from some years earlier and wondering where the sadness in my face came from. I remember I would kind of resignedly think oh well, it’s just part of living in this society. Something inside me knew that life was originally meant to be fun, and is fun for everyone on many planets in 3D or 4D, no doubt.

the sadness i see looking at childhood photos
i was told i did not smile much
i specifically recall a period where i did not laugh.at all. for quite a spell of time...and birthday celebrations (when the song was sung) made me cry!

and now...accepting this reality and finding/seeking/creating joy
just makes "life" more easier and less painful
yes, loving self is key. truly madly deeply loving self

and this i have had to learn from scratch, so to speak.

i am sure we could ask whether a cat is "happy" by communicating with them. they too are part of the dance, the gaia shift.....

[TraineeHuman]

I believe the reason why discovering my origins was such a liberating experience was that it enabled me to in a sense stop placing significance on anything in my current lifetime. Once I had confirmed for certain that guardian angels were saying I was very likely to be rejoining them in the near future, that took all the performance pressure off me. Now, in a sense, nothing mattered. Which amounted to a gigantic letting go of everything. Since then life still goes on, but the slate has somehow been wiped clean.

I’ll say more below relating to the importance of having great detachment. Let me pause to explain now, though, that detachment doesn’t really have anything to do with a lack of involvement. The greater a person’s detachment, the more intensely they are able to let themselves be involved and the more deeply they are able to care about others and about the situation.

In ancient Greek times, in fields such as art, literature and philosophy, everyone who created great works or great theories claimed to do so with the help of a “daemon”. That word used to mean what we now would mean by “angel” (ignoring the apparent misinfo of Doreen Virtue and some others today regarding angels), and it certainly didn't mean a "fallen angel" either.

From the Elizabethan period to the nineteenth century, in England and Germany and other European countries, creative artists and intellectuals who were authors of major new theories also attributed their inspiration to their “daemon”.

We find a record of almost all the famous figures in the arts in those centuries in those countries speaking of their “daemon” almost as if they were taking dictation from the latter. As I briefly explained in post #29, however, the 6D part of a person also seems like quite another person, or like God. That’s for anyone who becomes directly and precisely aware of its existence.

So, it isn’t clear whether all the above famous creative individuals were tapping into their 6D part or into the consciousness of one or more of their guardian angels. The wonderful thing is that they managed to do it at all. (By contrast, most channelers would claim to be doing something similar but failing to do so.)

As far as I know from my experience, there are only two ways to get there. One way is to deepen your sensitivity so finely that you become extremely vulnerable to deeply feeling any pain that is around. The more sensitivity – and therefore wondrous beauty – you develop, the greater the pain you are vulnerable to feeling. The only protection – the only peace – from such pain is if you have developed strong detachment. It seems clear all the Beethovens and van Goghs successfully did just that.

The other way I know to become directly and constantly aware of your 6D part – your Higher Self – is through meditation or something equivalent. But for most people it seems to take the equivalent of at least a number of full-time person-years of full-on meditation to get there – maybe. Still, you readers are not just anybody off the street. With all the interest at Avalon about really unlocking our potential, I’d like to suggest that learning to live with and be frequently aware of your 6D part is a very good idea, and just about “compulsory” if you’re serious about unlocking your potential.

As I mentioned in post #29, the 6D part is quite different from our personality. It’s also much wiser and saner. I have always thought of it as the “greatness” side to a person. Of course, in our society most people apparently haven’t turned on the ignition key of their greatness. And that’s because they’re not aware that it really is there. How dear that word “greatness” has been to my heart for most of my life, I can’t find words to explain.

Surely the time has come for everybody here to start finding it, if they haven’t already. Doing so is enormously rewarding. The life and the experiences of the personality are so petty, so dull, so fake in comparison. Let’s think big, folks. It’s not that the 6D part is addictive, or that it’s an obsession. The 6D part is just simply the truth, the true heart. Often it can feel like the personality/mind is nothing but a vessel, through which the inspiration from the 6D part flows.

At the risk of repetition, let me again say that the 6D part is very, very subtle. That sure makes it elusive to find. People who have recently incarnated as humans and were ETs before seem to find it, or at least sense it, naturally. It gives them huge motivation, or true inspiration. Some of us know that in the future all humans will be in continual contact with their 6D part. You truly can do it. But not overnight.

It’s the pearl of very great price. Yes, it is as vast as the entire multiverse, And yes, as I said, it’s all inside of you. If you're a Christian and you object to the notion that you could in some sense actually be God, I hope you can at least aspire to be great, to rise up much closer to God in stature.

[TraineeHuman]

The previous post may have seemed to paint the sixth dimension as something very hard to access, so let me now backtrack a little and begin to talk about what the sixth dimension is like.

Firstly, we all enter it and make use of it many times every day, however briefly. Much of the time a person will not be aware that they are entering it or using it. So let’s list some examples of when everybody is likely to use it.

When a person is driving, they don’t make conscious calculations like: “My velocity is currently x and my angular momentum is currently y, so if I slow my velocity to x2 by the time I reach a further z meters, that will be the ideal speed for making a perfect turn right”. No, people make judgment calls while driving, mostly by pure “intuition” or “gut feeling” plus pure observation. They also use “instinct” or “intuition” to keep their awareness out for potential sudden hazards and to guess where these are likeliest to occur.

Another example is playing sports. It seems clear to me that the biggest reason why most people find it entertaining to watch sports events is to watch the snap decisions which the players make as they “think on their feet”. But it’s not so much thinking, but rather it’s “intuition”, or “lateral thinking”, if you like.

People also frequently use their “intuition” – maybe combined with the ego’s influence – to decide what “feels right” for them at any given moment.

Whenever a person engages in problem-solving, be it a small problem or a major one, it’s their 6D part that finds the solution. This brings me to mention one of the most important ways I discovered to develop and deepen my awareness of my 6D part.

What I discovered in my early adolescence was that there is such a thing as a creative process, and that that process is a doorway for entering quite deeply into the world of 6D. When I was 17 I began my first university degree. I tried to find some material in the university’s library that would help explain or describe some of the many “strange” experiences or awarenesses I had by that age already discovered and even explored. At that time the New Age movement was yet to gain popular momentum. So I learnt that what I was involved in was known as “mysticism”. As that name tries to imply, the whole subject was supposedly very, very mysterious. Which didn’t help, because nearly everybody who knew me seemed to believe I was somehow very mysterious and unpredictable. I did find a small amount of published quotes from the writings of people like Jakob Bohme and Meister Eckhart that sounded like they were on the same page as me – and not mysterious, even if seeming to like contradictions or paradoxes quite a lot. But then, wasn’t it obvious that so much of what is most important is flat-out unsayable? What seemed more useful to me at that time, though, was a few books I found about the creative process, and the psychology of creativity.

Let me now give a description of roughly how the creative process works. I’m doing this because it’s one way anybody can consciously tap into the 6D world and, hopefully, consciously watch how the 6D world brings something in, that the human mind then takes down into 5D and 4D. The way the creative process works is that you begin with a huge problem that you are motivated to solve. In the fine arts, the problem can be as vague as that of creating something original that vividly expresses both beauty and truth. If you like, it can be as small as, say, just finding an original point of view regarding some topic.

Next, you go through a process of trial and error where you just come up with attempted off-the-cuff solutions. You bring these out without consciously thinking much. It’s more about looking. You’re looking for what solutions kind of have the right flavor. In a sense, which ones are in good taste – but it’s only your own personal taste that matters at this point. You keep bringing up these spontaneous attempts at solutions. Then you reflect on why they look inadequate. You now seek to spontaneously bring up solutions that overcome the weaknesses of your previous attempts. You concentrate very hard on seeking an answer to the problem now. The harder you concentrate, the better the end result will be later on. You keep going until your well runs completely dry. Then you give up, but only for a moment, or maybe for a day.

You are now ready to naturally enter the next stage of the process. This is where you kind of surrender to “nothingness”. You’ve thrown away every suggestion your mind could come up with, because all of these have been found wanting. Still, while you now intensely listen to “nothingness” and you contemplate the blank "wall" that's all you have left, you keep your attention still on the problem. Your attention stays there but not on any words running through your mind. Those words will just be distractions at this point, so turn their volume down low, and ignore them.

At this point you wait for an answer to come, out of “nowhere”. You may go back to your normal everyday life at this point, but please make sure you are ready to listen to the inspiration which will come at some point, though you may not know when. And be ready to jot down the answer, or to tape record it somewhere. Some level of inspiration will eventually come, unless you unknowingly repress it or don’t honor its generosity.

That’s basically the process. I’ll stop here for now because this post is already long.

[TraineeHuman]

While we’re on the subject of techniques to begin to listen to your 6D part, here’s another one. Frame a question that is currently important in your life, but don’t put it in a closed form (i.e., don’t ask a question with a Yes or No answer). Centre and ground yourself, and let your mind go relatively quiet, as at the beginning of meditation.

Then ask yourself the question, and immediately make the screen of your mind completely blank. Wait at least twenty seconds, keeping that screen blank all the while. Then, look at the first symbol or picture or word that comes up. That is your 6D part’s answer. Be ready for the answer to come out of left field, or seem wild or not seem to make sense. After that initial answer, what you will get in your mind will probably be the ego coming in, chattering about and distorting the answer. So don’t listen to what comes after. Usually the answer comes in the form of a symbol or picture. I have found that everybody is very good at knowing the meaning of their own consciousness's symbols. Anything like a train or car is a symbol for your life, or the course of your life. Steps going up always mean spiritual evolution.

Why am I giving you these exercises? Well, as I said, most of the time your guardian angels normally stay at the border between the fifth and sixth dimensions. There they are invisible and undetectable to any lower-level beings, and they can also see the big picture of your life and protect you or subtly influence you or events. But they are just at the entrance to your own 6D part. So it’s not a huge step to tune into that part of yourself, rather than being preoccupied with tuning into them. And I’ve already given you two very simple exercises that enable almost anybody to get at least some communication direct from their own 6D part.

Over 30 years ago I used to go to a spiritual circle. The primary activity in those classes, apart from learning to astral travel as a group even if one didn’t initially know how to astral travel, was to identify and receive messages from the guides of other members of the group. The other members had usually the same guide each week, and had one or two different guides. I had between 3 and 7 guides each week, and most of them would be different every week. So I do know about guides, and have examined the subject in depth. Not all “guides” are beneficial to a person, because sometimes a person will tap into one of their own past-lifetime personalities, which is always very destructive, as I have mentioned already. What eventually happened in the spiritual circle I was a member of was that after a few months I started to bring in guides that the teacher called “buddhas”, even though she was a Christian psychic. These beings had a gold energy field, and the leader claimed those fields were bigger than the entire room – say, more than 10 meters in diameter. The leader didn’t know how to work with them properly as “guides”, and she asked me to leave the group. Which was certainly a pity, because I wasn’t able to see with precision how big their energy fields were.

Guardian angels are not the same thing as guides. However, I have noticed that during a psychic healing they are happy to collaborate with a benevolent guide in the healing process.

[Snowbird]

Hi TraineeHuman. I ran across these channeled messages from Archangel Metatron by James Tyberonn, in which AAM is describing what angels actually are. The Angelic Realm is located by scrolling down about 2 inches at the first link. I'm curious as to what you think about these descriptions.

I am unable to copy/paste because of copyright issues.

"The Nature of Angelics & Light"

Archangel Metatron via James Tyberonn

http://www.earth-keeper.com/EKnews_56.htm


"The 2012 Ostiary
Angels Among You"

Archangel Metatron via James Tyberonn

http://www.earth-keeper.com/EKnews_66.htm

[TraineeHuman]

Hi, Snowbird (and anyone else). I’ve read the material at the two above links. It covers many different topics, and in places I see it as informative. There are definitely several intelligent points — though there are considerably more false and misleading statements than accurate or true ones.

I also see the manner and style of expression as being unfortunate. Sigh. Yet another channeler. Well, I happen to know that the ability to be able even to locate, let alone precisely listen to, as exalted a being as Metatron – or, indeed, any being that channelers claim to be taking dictation from – is a very rare skill. I find it plausible that John Kettler actually has that skill, at least in part. But if the man who wrote the material at the above links can fully access a being at such a subtle level of reality as Metatron, where are his ingenious and unstoppable practical solutions to the problems of humanity? I don’t see them there. And why is such an intelligent being as "Metatron" so ineloquent? I find that totally unbelievable.Why can’t "Metatron" find a way to use language that any person on the street can follow, like David Icke usually does? Also, to me it seems childish to claim that the product of your own mind is actually coming straight from some divine or otherwise exalted being. That sounds like essence of pure ego.

Here’s a list of the few things mentioned that I would applaud. Firstly, I’m impressed by the real Metatron. I can only speak of Metatron from my own experience/awareness. It appears that Metatron is some kind of very powerful being. that I would call a (senior) god rather than an “archangel” – not that the benevolent gods (who, I know, do include Yeshua and Judas and all sorts of others, such as Gaia) are anything other than very senior angelic beings, in my experience and observation – and from my experiences of following the trail of some of the gods as they retreated back into the sixth dimension and beyond.

In my experience, Metatron is a being of truly extraordinary subtlety and gentleness, who is also extraordinarily generous and available to help. However, I prefer to work primarily with the guardian angels who have volunteered to be with me throughout every moment of my physical life. I prefer to leave it up to them to find (and vet) any other benevolent beings who may bring other help at times. I also find that calling on my three permanent angels for assistance usually results in very creative and favorable resolutions of what initially were sticky situations for me.

Another statement I would certainly agree with is that there are no evil or fallen angels – nor, I would add, any evil “gods”. All the latter are just some of the “Greys” or Jinns or Archons or Reptilians, and they’re all something quite different, something that falls quite short in each case. Just because the Bible says there are “fallen angels”, we needn’t forget that various things in the Bible are not the word of God but the word of the deceivers.

It’s certainly true that there are some types of angels whose work is to preserve and uphold the laws of physics.

That’s just about as far as it goes. OK, some of the incredibly vague statements about being beings of “Light” are also true, as are some of the statements about how that connects with “crystalline” forms of existence, for humanity in the future.

Unfortunately, Christianity used the concept of "angels" to try to convince humanity that they were lower than other intelligent beings. I love the way that in Paradise Lost. Milton has "the Archangel Michael" complain to Papa God about the fact that said Papa has [sic] created humans in such a way that they have the potential to become more exalted creatures than even Michael himself.

[Snowbird]

From my understanding, an archangel is not an individual, but is a collective. They, become one and have no form but light. So, is it possible that when James Tyberonn or anyone channels an archangel, they would receive information from those in the collective who have the most knowledge and understanding of the subject at hand? This would make their voices different.

This channeled message linked below has the flavor of Metatron, so to speak. Their description of the 13-20-33 circuitry goes beyond interesting. I would like to know how the average person measures their own circuitry. :nod:

Issue # 67: Earth-Keeper Chronicles January 6, 2012


"The 2012 Express - A Train Is Coming
The Requisite Shift to Crysto-Electric Field"

Archangel Metatron via James Tyberonn

http://www.earth-keeper.com/EKnews_67.htm

[onawah]

Snowbird, you may copy that info here without permission.
It says at the link"This channel is copyrighted to www.Earth-Keeper.com . Posting on websites is permitted as long as the information is not altered and credit of authorship and website is included. "
You just have to give Tyberonn's name and website link, and copy the info as is, without alteration.
I've been copying Tyberonn's channeled info on the channeled info forum and in other threads for quite awhile now.

As to TH's assessment of Tyberonn, I have met him in person and witnessed him channeling, and though I cannot say precisely who or what he or any other channeler is channeling, I think that the massive amount of very detailed information he is bringing through about such subjects as the history of Atlantis, the pyramids and other sacred sites around the world, about the importance of crystals, the crystalline grid and the crystal skulls and much more seems to me to be very credible, not to mention uplifting and inspiring.

He was a geologist and a world traveler before he ever became a channeler or a sacred tour guide, and that gives him rather a different kind of background and base than most channelers. The conferences he facilitates feature very credible keynote speakers such as Dr. Semir Osmanagich, John Major Jenkins, David Hatcher Childress, Dr. Michael Cremo and more, and he has worked extensively with Max the Crystal Skull and Max's keeper, JoAnn Parks.

I think a lot of genuine channelers are really just channeling their own Higher Selves, perhaps with assistance from higher beings, as protectors from the negative entities that like to interfere.
While personally, I didn't feel anything particularly angelic coming through Tyberonn, I do feel there is a connection with a source that has a great deal of knowledge and wisdom to share, and I think Tyberonn does quite a good job bringing that through.
As to how clear a channel Tyberonn is when it comes to angelic energy, it may depend, as with all channelers, on many variables such as how he was feeling that day, his surroundings at the time of the channeling, who was present and how much interference he might have been dealing with from other entities.
I only saw him channel once, very briefly, and I don't think that was enough for me to make a thorough assessment on that score.
In the past, I have witnessed a channeler who I did feel was able to bring through very angelic energy, so I do have some basis of comparison, at least.
As with ALL channeled info, discernment is advised, but when it comes to pure information, basic standards of reason and logic are certainly helpful, and may be sufficient in certain cases.
But I don't think we can measure all channelers with the same yardstick.


Hi TraineeHuman. I ran across these channeled messages from Archangel Metatron by James Tyberonn, in which AAM is describing what angels actually are. The Angelic Realm is located by scrolling down about 2 inches at the first link. I'm curious as to what you think about these descriptions.

I am unable to copy/paste because of copyright issues.

"The Nature of Angelics & Light"

Archangel Metatron via James Tyberonn

http://www.earth-keeper.com/EKnews_56.htm


"The 2012 Ostiary
Angels Among You"

Archangel Metatron via James Tyberonn

http://www.earth-keeper.com/EKnews_66.htm

[TraineeHuman]

I guess for me the issue that gets in the way regarding channeling is that I don’t believe in it at all. (And I’ve sure had direct and very clear and precise communication with various kinds of ETs and angelic beings, a number of the most major and wisest gods, many nature spirits, many famous dead personalities or people, and so on and so forth.) The main reason I don’t believe in “channeling” is as follows.

Over 30 years ago I use to attend a weekly psychic development circle, run by someone who I’m now sure was a very, very competent psychic. There I carefully and telepathically observed others “channeling”. I soon noticed that I could “tune into” significant amounts of whatever other members of the group were about to “channel”, but I could do that better as myself. And I could always add extra, equally valuable information myself, without somehow surrendering my consciousness and my body to some temporary walk-in. The difference was that I was aware of and in contact with my Higher Self at least up to a 13D level. Most of the other people in the group definitely were not.

The point is, at any time, to listen to your Higher Self is to be more truly and authentically and fully you. A channel is something that’s an intermediary. But the real you is here, now. Just be very honest with yourself and very aware, and the petals will unfold by themselves. (And persistence is the key to success in any area.) You are the butterfly the caterpillar is listening to. I'd much prefer people to tune into their deeper heart and "blindly" guess from there -- and surprise, surprise it won't be guessing if you're true to the real you.

So, I fully agree with Onawah that some “channeling” is simply coming from a person’s Higher Self – and, like most people today, that individual happens to be quite out of touch with who they truly are.

Then there’s other sorts of “channeling”. Quite a lot of “channeling”, in my experience anyway, is cluttered with just so much rubbish the rubbish tends to hide any valuable truth that may be in there somewhere. And why is so much of it in the same wordy, rather bombastic language that the English mediums of the nineteenth century used to use? Why can’t the “channels” get modernized to a twenty-first century version, that doesn’t waffle on, much of the time saying either nothing specific or nothing verifiable?

[RunningDeer]

So, I fully agree with Onawah that some “channeling” is simply coming from a person’s Higher Self – and, like most people today, that individual happens to be quite out of touch with who they truly are.
I'm not familiar with Onawah, so I may be speaking out of context. But I believe similarly with the above quote: One is in communion with Higher Self. It's a partnership to get one from point A to point B, with lots of stops along the way.

[gigha]

Hi WhiteCrow... Onawah is a member of Avalon.
Peace and love..xx



So, I fully agree with Onawah that some “channeling” is simply coming from a person’s Higher Self – and, like most people today, that individual happens to be quite out of touch with who they truly are.
I'm not familiar with Onawah, so I may be speaking out of context. But I believe similarly with the above quote: One is in communion with Higher Self. It's a partnership to get one from point A to point B, with lots of stops along the way.

[TraineeHuman]

One is in communion with Higher Self. It's a partnership to get one from point A to point B, with lots of stops along the way.
WhiteCrowBlackDeer: This thread is primarily intended to be all about discovering that one is really an ET visiting here by being born as a human. It's clear from some of your posts that at some point you discovered -- and even probably confirmed for certain? -- that you were such a being. Is there anything you would like to share regarding your personal experiences of this?

In my own case, birth and then childhood was an enormously painful and tough ordeal. I'm sure it was far worse than it is for nearly everyone else. (I'm sure of that because I've recovered full memory of everything that occurred. And because I've worked psychotherapeutically with various people, and although nobody's childhood is a picnic, mine was more saddening than theirs.) Not that I was neglected -- in fact, in many ways I was spoiled, and eventually my parents learnt that they had to treat me like a king, because that was what I naturally expected -- and in my naivety I had assumed everybody deserved to be treated that way.

I guess a tough ordeal makes you strong in the long run, provided you get through it.

BCWD, you seem to have some special connections with Nature, and I assume you learnt certain indigenous knowledge. Is there anything you would like to tell us about, given that most members of this Forum are very open and supportive to the whole idea of Star Seeds -- and many or most are probably Star Seeds of some kind themselves but may not know it? How do you see being a Star Seed as making you different? How does, or did, your intense yearning for home express itself in your life? Why and how did it hurt being a Star Seed on a strange planet, and how did you handle that and use it to evolve?

[onawah]

I have the same problem with the style of many channelers, and it makes me wonder if the souls those English mediums used to channel are still trying to put their two cents in.
I wish they would go find a better job!
Apparently even Tyberonn is susceptible, which is just silly, because his messages are far from being rubbish.
I've mentioned it to him, because I proof read his messages, but haven't had a reply as yet.
I said the language he used sometimes sounded stilted and medieval, which wasn't very nice of me, I guess, but it's the truth.
I can only surmise that someone is in there running interference, and I would like them to butt out! :tsk:





Then there’s other sorts of “channeling”. Quite a lot of “channeling”, in my experience anyway, is cluttered with just so much rubbish the rubbish tends to hide any valuable truth that may be in there somewhere. And why is so much of it in the same wordy, rather bombastic language that the English mediums of the nineteenth century used to use? Why can’t the “channels” get modernized to a twenty-first century version, that doesn’t waffle on, much of the time saying either nothing specific or nothing verifiable?

[RunningDeer]

Hi WhiteCrow... Onawah is a member of Avalon.
Peace and love..xx



So, I fully agree with Onawah that some “channeling” is simply coming from a person’s Higher Self – and, like most people today, that individual happens to be quite out of touch with who they truly are.
I'm not familiar with Onawah, so I may be speaking out of context. But I believe similarly with the above quote: One is in communion with Higher Self. It's a partnership to get one from point A to point B, with lots of stops along the way.
Oh, boink! Hello Onawah! I thought you were a life philosophy. (Maybe some day, but not today.) Oh, dear. I have you on my list of things to do. I will use the search tool to get to know you better.

I see that you've clicked on the "Thank you for this useful post". Tomorrow, Feb. 20th, will be my 2nd week anniversary here in the "Land of Avalon". Though, I'm about to remove my training wheels.

And Thanks with a capital "T" to TraineeHuman for such a graceful job at bringing me up to speed. Smiles.

[I33]

Greetings, I've been reading through this thread frequently and now have felt like I should share some of the things that go on with myself so others can learn. I've enjoyed reading a lot of the stuff everyone has written, especially TraineeHuman.

So I guess firstly I'd like to offer my interpretation of 6th dimensional consciousness. I agree that it is where your higher self is "located". I like how it was mentioned as "elusive". The emptiness that you describe is exactly what I feel is when you are applying your perspective of reality from your higher self. It to me is "elusive" because we are learning moment by moment how to fully integrate that perspective into everything that we do. The "intuition" or "feel" is your Higherself communicating with you. I have noticed that when I take the "hints" it ends up making whatever I'm doing easier. Be it talking to someone about anything, crossing the street before the light tells me it's ok(haha). Some times I choose to "ignore" this feeling or guidance and almost immediately I recognize that things would have went a tad bit smoother. But I just makes me trust it even more, whether I listen or not. It is to my understanding that we all are becoming our higherself. I think you mentioned it being our "Pure" state.
I have had a very hard time getting comfortable integrating my "higher self" so when you say elusive it really resonates with me.I truly know that's who I really am so when it comes and goes it is quite strange. I grew up in a place very puritan, highly competitive, (130,000 average income) my family makes nowhere near that. I think of it as the conditioning epicenter. Knowing now that I chose that place for a reason. You have to go to the deepest parts of darkness to light it up, so all can see.

It took me spiraling through "manic depression" for a great deal of time. Not really knowing anything, not matter what anyone said to me I knew that something was wrong because no one ever understood me. Still no clue how I graduated high school. Looking back now I know I was using this time of great confusion as a learning tool. I have always know that I was following light somewhere. I got into college and still was at the peak of this state of confusion. I remember reading allegory of the cave by Plato and knowing exactly what he was talking about. This is where things get interesting though. I've heard many people say that the night is the darkest before the dawn. This is one of the truest things I have ever read. Despite always recognizing messages from my Higherself, I had chosen long ago to not "listen" despite the harm it brought me. Just for a reference point, I had surrounded myself in people very disconnected from their heart. Pathological liars in the plenty. I listened to every bit they said despite how I "felt" about it.

I'm going to back track a little. But I thought it was important to write it out this way. Before I met any of these people I had reached what I'd like refer to as the most pivotal point in my life thus far. My dawn. I was sitting in the cafeteria of my college as the usual "disconnected". When I look up and make eye contact with what I can only describe as the most beautiful girl I have ever seen. It is in this instant that I remember exactly where I am from and why I am here. It is in this moment that I had the strongest "vision" to date. For the indescribable amount of times our eyes were locked. I took a trip all the way up to the highest level of consciousness. I saw my evolution from the tiniest bit of consciousness all the way through to infinity. My "lives" flashed through countless numbers, whatever vehicle they might look like, I had a hard time keeping track of them all. This continued on past the present moment until what I can only describe as just pure white light. It was that moment I had been see long ago and gave meaning to all that I do.

Despite this magical moment hahaha to say the least. As Twin Flames in a Union our physical relationship isn't what is priority as is our mission to Humanity. It has been frustrating along the way. As sharing one soul in 2 bodies is like pulling super conductors away from each other. We have our separate work to do. I had to travel a lot to seed consciousness and meet those I need to meet.

In regards to et origins. I have a extremely deep connection to the Sirius system as I do to this one. Among all forms I've taken, one in particular is great connection to me. I believe that it is a step of above how my higher self appears to me. Almost like a second reminder. If anyone is familiar with the Dogon and the Nommos. I know I am one. I have had many experiences as myself in this form. It is quite liberating.

I would say that the way I interpret channeling is the most useful when you recognize it as your higher self. When you start labeling it as this or that... gets kind of screwy.

Regards.

p.s. Feel free to ask any questions

[tonyp]

How delightful ....is true we are all peasants...and as a peasant with at least 46 per cent free will ...and my firewall currently inactive....I as a proud peasant demand I get terminated immediatley and spend some more time in purgatory contemplating my future reincarnation as a speck of dust in the next wham bang thank you man : )

[TraineeHuman]

133, I love the balance and the centeredness from the heart that comes across to me from your words. Having a degree in psychology, I know that psychological or psychiatric labels, like “manic depressive”, are based totally on one assumption. That’s the curious assumption that the so-called norm is sanity; and that anything that departs from it enough must be insanity. It seems to me that your post is one of the sanest – in some real sense of sanity – that I’ve read in a while. Some very intelligent people do go manic depressive. It happens, if they suffer extreme abuse or criticism and hardship and they’re too wise not to know it’s terribly wrong. But from what you wrote I’m not sure if you ever let yourself become full-time depressed. If you did, you’ve obviously come through and out.

There’s certainly a lot that you’ve left out in your post. To mention one thing, you say:
“I truly know who I really am...”
That sounds like you’ve realised not only your 6D part but all the way up to at least your 12D part. Which is what’s known as enlightenment, though of course that’s only the beginning, once you get there.

I tend to avoid terms like “empty” or “pure”. I do so simply because they can point to anything at all that occurs between 6D and 18D. Admittedly, throughout my adolescence and up to age 27, whenever I meditated I’d initially go into the Buddhist Void. That would be the most exhilarating and delicious ride. It would take me from 6D on up to some higher D. I usually meditated with my eyes open, or at least half-open. That was amazing, because it was like the physical world became hollow all over the place. I guess that was because I would directly feel, if not somehow see, higher dimensions imposed onto the physical. But we all have our own ways to get into 6D and higher. (And after 27 I learnt to prefer the joy of “flying”, which combined bliss and detachment/emptiness at the same time – plus “astral” travel too. Then I started to work on bringing heaven down to earth at least in my own life, which is what I still do today.)

But once you’ve experienced 12D, it always unlocks the ability to do things such as easily learn to begin to see past lifetimes. You’ve obviously done that, I take it. Would you be willing to share more of the details of how and when you came to do this, and to learn that you could do it? Personally, I disapprove of almost all forms of hypnotherapy, except for when the individual does it on themselves.

One thing I love to do is find ways to make spirituality practical. To bring it back into the 3D world, plus the 4D world of feelings that we live in and the 5D world of concepts that we also live in. Of course, maybe “higherself-ality” is a more accurate word than “spirituality”. 133, I really like your description of what following your 6D intuition means in practice. As you describe it, it’s something simple that everybody can do. Also, a person’s 6D intuition will always guide them in the right path. It will also take them towards 12D, when they are ready.

Are you willing to give us any details of how you worked out what your ET constellations of origin were? Also, of exactly how you worked out that you did have ET roots? I believe that sort of information would be helpful to many Forum members, as they too unwind, or begin to unwind, the trail of breadcrumbs through the forest.

Also, would you be willing to elaborate any further on what “getting uncomfortable integrating [your] higher self” meant for you, and what sorts of blind alleys you ended up in because it was initially so elusive?

[eaglespirit]

Thank You TraineeHuman for Sharing Openly from Your Heart : )
You Are Helping Many Help Many : )
Love to All...We Are Bringing Togetherness to New Heights Now : )
NqxiLDhrRik

[RunningDeer]

My information doesn't fit this thread.

[I33]

But once you’ve experienced 12D, it always unlocks the ability to do things such as easily learn to begin to see past lifetimes. You’ve obviously done that, I take it. Would you be willing to share more of the details of how and when you came to do this, and to learn that you could do it? Personally, I disapprove of almost all forms of hypnotherapy, except for when the individual does it on themselves.

As I mentioned before I am a Twin Flame. Really how I leaned how to do this was interacting with the literal other half of my soul. As our mission is and I've come to understand at this point. When we both came it was my job to take on all of the conditioning so she would be able to come in and hold a extremely high frequency. Twin flames share a Higherself. Throughout my life I had been getting messages from her /higherself despite my deep conditioning. I.e. when I was in elementary school I told my mom that I was going to marry a girl who made movies. I knew this to the deepest part of my soul. It wasn't until I met my Twin that I discovered she was a Film major and made that connection.

As I mentioned before the real trigger was her. We are both graduated incarnates here on a voluntary mission. She is already way ahead of me in terms being consciously aware of higher dimensions. I am working my way up towards where she is at. Luckily for me she facilitates everything. :o. The first meeting she brought me way way up. I can't really say I know how far. It was on this way that I was shown all past incarnations. It is now on a much slower procession of time that I get shown past life connections through the guidance of my higherself. For example it will come in a image in my consciousness, or in a dream I will just follow that feeling searching around in my daily life and more things will present them self. Like actual 3rd written information, images,sounds, video ect.


Also, would you be willing to elaborate any further on what “getting uncomfortable integrating [your] higher self” meant for you, and what sorts of blind alleys you ended up in because it was initially so elusive?

As we all know on this lovely little planet the 3rd is and has been quite dominated by male energy for a long while. So when it comes to some strange chick that made me feel like I exploded for lack of a better term being "in control" of my journey it kind of terrified me for a long while. No one ever told me about this, and surely such a overwhelming encounter made me feel like I was insane. No person could at the time have any connection to what I experienced. I felt as if I were talking to rocks trying to ask them how to move. So in this state of terror I really ran from her,my feelings and my higherself. It scared me and I had no idea what was going on despite it eerily making to much sense. In my little 3d conditioned sense of reality no woman was supposed to be guiding you around on a spiritual journey.
But as time went on I continually got comfortable with this feeling I got when my higherself would communicate with me. It is elusive in that it only comes when it needs to and no other time. Despite you trying to understand you will understand in the time it sees fit. Really to me your higherself is your future self. So it is you. As time continues you become your future self more and more. I feel that your higherself blatantly puts you into these blind corners in a act of teaching you. You get into a blind corner and somehow get out. Its a pretty good tool for teaching you to how to incorporate your higherself. For example. I was and still am always out to prove my higherself wrong even though I accept it. I feel it makes me better at accepting it.

My case is a little different because I'm a Twin flame but I feel the example is relative. I would think to myself there s no way in hell this girl could ever love me. I am a terrible person, leave me alone. All of the sudden I heard a voice utter out 17 minutes. So I thought OH OK. Time goes on, got my head down as 10 min passes by. I loose focus of time . All of the sudden I get this urge to look up and out the window. As I do this I involuntarily kick the chair next to me. With a loud bang and me raising my head slightly more there she is walking towards where I'm sitting. My heart raced the second I saw her like I had been sprinting away from some terrible evil. Looking back on that event in particular now is hilarious, funny how a "involuntary" movement creates this climatic sound for this higherself demonstration.


Are you willing to give us any details of how you worked out what your ET constellations of origin were? Also, of exactly how you worked out that you did have ET roots? I believe that sort of information would be helpful to many Forum members, as they too unwind, or begin to unwind, the trail of breadcrumbs through the forest.

So specifically it started with a serious of dreams coupled by some intuitive research.

The fist dream that relates to my origins starts of quite normal. I am driving in a cargo truck crammed in the front with a few men. I look over to my left and Phillip K. Dick is sitting there in the next few moments the fabric of reality rips away and our human bodies dissolve as if they are made of clay. In this new state of just energy I suddenly here a female voice. She says very clearly and proudly. " You are the Sirian High King" this resonated with me very very deeply. I can feel the presence of the binary system. It was so profound that I immediately woke up as a after effect of the vividness of the dream. I have read in a few places PKD is Sirian.

Second dream I actually am in a physical body that clearly is not my own. It is humanoid like but very dark mixed green skin. What really stood out in this dream was the perception of reality. I felt as if I was in a very high dimensional consciousness. I feel that the twin flame template is not originated from earth. I felt as if I was in my original form. As I mentioned 1 soul two bodies. This was 1 soul one body. The way you looked at reality expressed that. I was like 2 people looking though the same mask making all the decisions for the body.

Aside from that. I took a trip to this state of consciousness/ dimension again while I was meditating a few months ago. I understand this being to be above my higherself. It was represented that way to me in my vision almost like a tiered system.

When I go outside at night and away from distractions and I stare up at the stars. I can connect with Sirius. It visually changes the higher my vibration goes whilst locked onto it. One time in particular stood out. I feel my perspective was above 6D, I really felt into Sirius and it felt like it was not very far away. I could see long star trails coming off it. Like the electromagnetic energy. It made it feel very close. I could also see other stars orbiting it.

Randomly I stumbled across the Dogon and their teachings. They have a deep connection to Sirius, they monitor time by it. Also people have leaked some of the ancestral knowledge. They are said to be visited by the Nommos, aquatic like beings from Sirius and were taught by them. Reading this information and seeing visual presentations had a very deep connecting with the core of my being.

All of the ET stuff started this summer and is still continuing now.

I tried not to make a massive post. I have way more to say I just didn't want to write so much and get people lost.

[Snowbird]

I33
I tried not to make a massive post. I have way more to say I just didn't want to write so much and get people lost.

Don't worry about it. We can handle it. :yes4:

[TraineeHuman]

133, I consider that the best and most effective type of spirituality is whatever is the most practical type of spirituality. All my experience suggests this is the royal road, the quicker path, to enlightenment and inner freedom.

For that reason, I’m glad to hear that you have gained so much from being with your soulmate. Actually, I’m not entirely convinced that everybody has only one soulmate. I suspect there are a number of potential soulmates out there for most people. But it’s certainly great that you’ve found one, somebody who reflects the magnificence of your own higher self back to you through their eyes. You may find it useful to take a look at some of the material on this -- particularly regarding "love" and "tantra" -- at www.barrylong.org (http://www.barrylong.org)

One thing the sexual act between two aware individuals does is to mutually share the light of each other’s consciousness and awareness. In India there has been a tradition for thousands of years that it’s very beneficial for a woman to have intercourse with a true guru. The myth developed that doing so once would be enough to ensure that such a woman became enlightened. There’s also a myth that you “acquire” all the personal karma of every individual you ever have sex with.

Neither of these myths is true, of course. But in my experience sexual intercourse with the right partner who is also very aware has often been so energizing there was little need for my body to have more than two hours’ sleep or rest in the 24 hours afterwards.

I’m also convinced that anybody of relatively recent ET origin can naturally rediscover their higher self more easily. What we experience in the 3D world is ultimately just the experience of the 5+ senses. It’s a world of physical sensations – with the emotional, intellectual and intuitive interpretations we put on those sensations. What could be more practical and efficient than to explore the many shades of sensation with the help of an aware partner?

[TraineeHuman]

In this post I want to explain why the existence of guardian angels is a reason for optimism. In the second half of the post, though, I briefly give one explanation of what’s involved in unlocking our own power within ourselves, a power that’s ultimately similar to that of the guardian angels themselves. It’s of course even more important for us all to unlock that.

I’ve already said I happen to know for a fact that everybody has at least two guardian angels protecting them (normally) every moment from birth to death. Too good to be true, you may say? Two huge beings continually watching, and shining divine healing light on that individual (directly on their “soul” and their DNA), every single moment? It’s kind of like each of us has the two top heads of the Defence Forces (not the ones from the black side) guarding our own house from burglars 24/7. This is real, folks. You don’t believe I’ve got that exactly right, maybe? You think I’m maybe naïve or airy-fairy or an escapist? Are you willing to at least consider the possibility that this is just maybe the truth, after all?

Well, I guess only a small number of Forum members have had a full, direct, unforgettable encounter with such beings. Over the last 3 years I’ve briefly brought up the subject several times. There must be more than a dozen current or former members who’ve said they’ve certainly seen and experienced these powerful beings when they detached out of their body or consciously went into the 4D or 5D world, or higher.

May I suggest some of the (to me) paranoid things that I frequently find in many threads on the Forum simply wouldn’t be allowed to happen in quite the dire ways that some seem to expect? Let’s take an example. Even if in the future the human race does get turned into a robotic or semi-robotic species – which I doubt --, I claim to know it would then be the guardian angels’ job to somehow ensure that those will all be very disobedient robots!

Yes, I agree there’s no logically necessary reason why such powerful and enlightened beings should be protecting each and every one of us. But I claim the universe is extraordinarily generous and positive to human beings in this respect. Santa Claus is real, so to speak – but in a far deeper and more meaningful sense than that myth (which the Catholic Church no doubt wanted us all to discover to be a lie when we were still at an impressionable age – a masterful piece of misinformation).

OK, so we need to get beyond the problem that only a few of you have directly and irrefutably experienced this for yourselves. But as I pointed out in posts #34 and #35, if you can just work on getting in touch with the extraordinary power of your 6D part – very much the “lower” end of your Higher Self – then some of the paranoia about the future can begin to look ridiculous. It seems to me that part of the job of everyone on the Forum is – or should be – to unlock the existence, and the massive power, of their 6D part at least. The sheer intensity and influence of that will then spread to the whole of humanity – much like the renaissance did. And yes, there’s also something like a hundredth monkey effect there. You can’t get off your knees politically and socially if you’re still permanently on your knees or thereabouts spiritually, inwardly, psychologically.

It’s not hard to start discovering your 6D part. By the way, though, I’m not talking about discovering your inner child – the little boy or little girl inside you. Yes, you should also definitely get your inner child off its knees and get in touch with your feelings and impulses. But the inner child’s territory is part of the intersection, the borderlands, of 5D and 6D. You need to go further.

One way you can begin to realise your 6D part (apart from meditation and endless self-enquiry and posts #34 and #35) is through continually verifying or noticing that: “It’s not all about you.” There’s currently a Spirituality thread on the subject of being touchy. If you’re aware you’re being touchy, then you’re briefly noticing that you’re assuming it’s all about you. Even that noticing puts you into 6D for a moment. The real truth is, it’s almost never about you. It's never all about you! If you simply practise noticing or verifying that this is normally the case, you’ll get insights. The insights will slightly change your whole consciousness, your awareness, permanently. OK, when the movie finishes the lights go on and then you’ll remember that the story you’d been absorbed in isn’t reality. But studies have shown that about half of everything that goes on in your subconscious mind for the next two or three days is made up of your replaying and “digesting” whatever you saw in the movie, with yourself identified with the movie’s central character. That does change you.

Basically, as I understand it, the self that most people believe they are is precisely what “the ego” is that meditation traditions talk about. Because most people are most of the time acting as if they are that self, they don’t notice that there’s something else – the Not-Self! Or, to use a different term, the Higher Self. Although many people move into their Not-Self whenever they are giving, or being good parents, or being part of a team that has good synergy, and so on, they don’t recognize that that’s being the Not-Self. Because most of the time they take the self’s perspective, they just assume that the self’s perspective covers everything in their lives.

What you need to do, however, is learn to gradually become aware that you most of the time you are living at two levels – those of the self and of the Not-Self. That Not-Self spends most of its time just watching the self – but also subtly prompting the self, because it is in fact the deeper heart of the self.

Once you can begin to consciously live at both of those two levels at the same time, you’ll notice two things. Firstly, that the life of the self is always a life of suffering, at least as long as a person isn’t also conscious of the Not-Self’s awareness. As the Buddha said, ordinary life in the 3D world is a life of suffering.

But I ask you, even all those of you who totally reject the notion of guardian angels:

Doesn’t life keep teaching you in every moment that you have to find a way to basically enjoy your life? Isn’t your place of work constantly challenging you to find a way to enjoy doing all your work? Aren’t your family members or your partner constantly challenging you to find a way to stay peaceful and unhurt and collected and pleasant while in their presence?

Well, I can guarantee that what you’ll discover once you can live as both the usual self and the Not-Self is this. The Not-Self is always peaceful and at least mildly joyful. Moreover, it brings at least a little more of those qualities into the self’s life, as long as you’re conscious of the Not-Self. The word “enlightenment” refers to lightening your load, your burden of suffering – and that’s exactly what this is the beginnings of.

Eventually you’ll even discover that the Not-Self is who you really are, and it was standing back but pulling all the strings of the self all along.

Since I’ve unfortunately mentioned the word enlightenment, maybe I should clarify that spiritual enlightenment normally refers to the point where you continue this process up to being conscious of the Not-Self at lest at a 12D level. (A few people use the word to refer to achievement of the absolutely highest possible “level” of spiritual liberation – though I doubt such a thing even exists.) Strangely, though, that doesn’t replace psychotherapy, or “work” on your emotions and your past. Incidentally, spiritual enlightenment is really just the beginning of a further journey. And up until about 35 thousand years ago, all adult humans on the planet were spiritually enlightened. So why make so much fuss about it?

One further point: The 3D world is a world of specifics, and the more specific something is in the 3D world, the more real it is. But the higher you go, the more true it becomes that what's real is the general rather than the specific, and pretty soon (in some higher dimension) the specific doesn't even exist. So, to find your Not-Self more fully, go for the general and don't get caught up in the forest's individual trees.

[TraineeHuman]

Some fascinating insights into the role of benevolent ETs and into the whole journey of human evolvement can be gained from examining the structure of the heroic journey. Around 30 years ago, in a few years Disney studios suddenly jumped from being the fourth or fifth most successful studio to being number one. They did this simply by insisting that all their movies had to be structured as a full heroic journey. All the other movie studios eventually followed suit.

This is good evidence that human beings have a gigantic yearning to hear about and think about and have the feeling of heroic journeys. If you ask yourself why, the obvious answer seems to be that subconsciously that’s what human life on this planet is all about. When we watch a good movie we don’t even notice that the characters – and especially the central character – are always “larger than life”. Despite their human flaws, they always show extraordinary courage against seemingly impossible odds, for instance – and they pretty much always win. They are extraordinarily certain of what they want, and they feel and are motivated much more strongly than “normal” people. And yet, deep inside we all know that somehow they are us, that in some veiled sense we all are exactly the same as them, we are very heroic beings. That's real. It's no less than the simple truth.

The fact that deep inside we all somehow know this is itself fascinating, and no doubt somehow has to do with the fact that humans are “fallen” beings because they chose to adopt a split consciousness, where much occurs on a subconscious or even unconscious level. We all damn well know deep inside that we are frightening powerful and great, so powerful that it would scare us to ever really look in the mirror at what’s deep inside. But I digress.

I happen to know certain specific details of the structure of the heroic journey, details which nearly all movies strictly follow. One such detail is that for the first half of the heroic journey the hero is losing. All the hero’s efforts fail and are ineffective at getting him/her anywhere, though the closer we get to the midpoint the smaller those failures become. That’s because the hero is learning, despite getting nowhere as far as winning any battles goes. It seems to me that maybe humanity is currently somewhere not far from the midpoint of their communal heroic journey -- wouldn't you say? Or does somebody strongly disagree? (The midpoint sometimes occurs more than 50% of the way through, but writers and producers still call it “the midpoint”.)

In the second half, the hero starts winning, and being effective. Gradually at first. One thing which occurs at or shortly after the midpoint of every movie is that the hero stops all external action and looks within, to begin to really identify why he/she has kept losing so far, and gaining insight into how he/she needs to change for the better. Stopping everything is necessary at that point. It's just the way it works. This internal facing of oneself continues throughout the rest of the movie, but in a way it’s less prominent because there’s always external action to face as well.

Part of every heroic journey is to have strong allies. Some of those allies seem considerably stronger than the hero. Gandalf seems more powerful than Frodo. However, part of every heroic journey in fiction – and, I would argue, in reality – is that it’s all about Frodo ultimately learning to act more powerfully than even Gandalf – and therefore learning how to be as powerful as Gandalf.

Obviously, then, the role of guardian angels is that of being powerful allies, but not interfering any more than necessary with the hero’s own journey of growing in strength and self-empowerment and self-liberation.

[soleil]

Let me now give a description of roughly how the creative process works. I’m doing this because it’s one way anybody can consciously tap into the 6D world and, hopefully, consciously watch how the 6D world brings something in, that the human mind then takes down into 5D and 4D. The way the creative process works is that you begin with a huge problem that you are motivated to solve. In the fine arts, the problem can be as vague as that of creating something original that vividly expresses both beauty and truth. If you like, it can be as small as, say, just finding an original point of view regarding some topic.

Next, you go through a process of trial and error where you just come up with attempted off-the-cuff solutions. You bring these out without consciously thinking much. It’s more about looking. You’re looking for what solutions kind of have the right flavor. In a sense, which ones are in good taste – but it’s only your own personal taste that matters at this point. You keep bringing up these spontaneous attempts at solutions. Then you reflect on why they look inadequate. You now seek to spontaneously bring up solutions that overcome the weaknesses of your previous attempts. You concentrate very hard on seeking an answer to the problem now. The harder you concentrate, the better the end result will be later on. You keep going until your well runs completely dry. Then you give up, but only for a moment, or maybe for a day.

You are now ready to naturally enter the next stage of the process. This is where you kind of surrender to “nothingness”. You’ve thrown away every suggestion your mind could come up with, because all of these have been found wanting. Still, while you now intensely listen to “nothingness” and you contemplate the blank "wall" that's all you have left, you keep your attention still on the problem. Your attention stays there but not on any words running through your mind. Those words will just be distractions at this point, so turn their volume down low, and ignore them.

At this point you wait for an answer to come, out of “nowhere”. You may go back to your normal everyday life at this point, but please make sure you are ready to listen to the inspiration which will come at some point, though you may not know when. And be ready to jot down the answer, or to tape record it somewhere. Some level of inspiration will eventually come, unless you unknowingly repress it or don’t honor its generosity.

That’s basically the process. I’ll stop here for now because this post is already long.
i discovered this a couple of years ago, and started calling it my "euphoria" method. basically whenever i needed an idea, or whenever i need answer to a plaguing issue of mine, i do this as you stated above. and the answer comes clearer and more "RIGHT" to me; or should i say feels more "CORRECT" than any other answer. i've received many ideas that can be called "genius" because of this.

[HaulinBananas]

. . . One very simple ascension method for ascension of the little nasties is as follows. Close your eyes in a well-lit room and "look" at which parts of the room you are in seem darker. Wherever it seems to be darker, that's where there's a little patch of darker energy. Simply keep your awareness on it, and it will grow lighter and then disappear.

I have to add that the only way you can ever get rid of anything that's part of your dark or negative side is by first totally accepting it. Paradoxically, that is what gets rid of it. I don't mean go out and be rude , nasty, violent, or whatever. But I do mean please be honest enough with yourself to face what's hiding between the cracks and in the shadows inside you, that you may only ever glimpse momentarily. You can only be good by first becoming good. Unfortunately, for centuries religions have told people to "be good", and as a result people hide from themselves all the ways in which they aren't currently good.


Thank you for this helpful tip

and this one too from another of your posts in this thread:


. . . While we’re on the subject of techniques to begin to listen to your 6D part, here’s another one. Frame a question that is currently important in your life, but don’t put it in a closed form (i.e., don’t ask a question with a Yes or No answer). Centre and ground yourself, and let your mind go relatively quiet, as at the beginning of meditation.

Then ask yourself the question, and immediately make the screen of your mind completely blank. Wait at least twenty seconds, keeping that screen blank all the while. Then, look at the first symbol or picture or word that comes up. That is your 6D part’s answer. Be ready for the answer to come out of left field, or seem wild or not seem to make sense. After that initial answer, what you will get in your mind will probably be the ego coming in, chattering about and distorting the answer. So don’t listen to what comes after. Usually the answer comes in the form of a symbol or picture. I have found that everybody is very good at knowing the meaning of their own consciousness's symbols. Anything like a train or car is a symbol for your life, or the course of your life. Steps going up always mean spiritual evolution. . . .

I went to a "meetup" group this week seeking to talk with like-minded people, however I left feeling disappointed. I felt the leader of the group was looking for disciples and it wasn't an experience I seek at this stage. The following few days I have felt uneasy, angry, and not quite myself. I wondered if I had picked up something negative at the little group meeting or was it just an insight to myself, I don't know. But I found the above two tips relevant and helpful and want to extend my appreciation to TraineeHuman for his work in educating and enlightening those who take the time to read his posts.

Thank you TH.

[chocolate]

As the saying goes, it is good to be lost in the right direction. I am not sure why it took me so long to discover this thread, and the one before it, but I am thankful either way.
Now comes the sharing part, but I am afraid to do it since yesterday I tried in another thread, and it backfired seemingly unrelated, but still quite related.

I can share this bit.
From what I know, coming as a partial revealing from someone else rather than me, I am not star seed but rather star pilgrim, whatever that might mean, if true. The explanation is that I have come as a volunteer. I will confess that I can't entirely relate to the part where there are mentioned dimensions and angels and co. probably because of the bad reputation these terms have received during last few years. But despite that, the explanation that went around those parts resonates with me.

I had a sense few days ago, that I will volunteer to come here again. I have had quite some difficulty during my life, which I sometimes don't talk about, and I often express the idea that I would rather be somewhere else than here on Earth, but I guess the truth is, deep inside, I feel for so much that happens here that I will come again, by choice, not because of karma or anything else.
In my life my simbology most of the time doesn't follow a straight forward logic, and I would see and realize things based on a string of appearances as symbols without their technical inherited meaning. I would see relationships with people with different faces, with different phrases, but they come in such a string, that an overall idea forms that is difficult to not-understand.

Yesterday I shared that I get to sense people's intentions and aspects of their life based on what they have written (on the forum or elsewhere), and that most of this it is painful for me, both for my emotions and feelings, and sometimes for my physical body. Especially if an animal or a plant is involved that suffers some trauma.
I seem to feel it all when it the correct state of mind. I have devised an explanation of why this happens, but since it involves also an explanation of what that reality is, I will not have the life force to write it all up in one go now, and will save it for the moment.

When I get to sense or see things, if I decide to share parts of them, most people feel threatened or violated and can become rather offensive toward me (or so it seems sometimes), so I just learned to not express much. Only on some very rare occasions as this one here, or if I decide someone needs some help, and by expressing how I feel that will be beneficial to them.
As I usually say I tend to be well around nature and animals much more than when humans get involved. There are exception of course, and I also do put effort to stay somehow inside the social situations. It is as if i need the interactions, but sometimes fail to cope with the results.

At the beginning I wasn't so well equipped to deal with this whole life here, and I encountered a few rough patches, but I survived them. There were family/parents issues, addictions, depression, and so forth in this colorful realm of life.

These past few years it started to get better, and easier when I learned to detach myself from almost all situations and all people involved that seem to be hurt me. In a way I became fear-less, which was liberating. At that moment I also started to recognize that what I was experiencing as being too different was actually quite okay to have, and that i am not alone in this.

I know I have a very strange unconditional love for most people which sometimes they misplaced or misunderstand as a weakness or low self esteem, but not in a spiritual or new age kind of a way (the Love term I mean). It is rather a special light feeling. I seem not to be able to find the right words now.

So whoever reads this, thinking how threatening it might be for someone to see more of the whole picture, you should know that it is not a position of feeling 'special', 'superior' (some mentioned term as elitist), ET rather than earthling, or different. I can think of it in terms of understanding and sensing probably a bit more than the usual. It is not at all that easy job, because I personally experience a lot of discomfort. But I am also learning to distance myself from the physical component of pain, and it may become easier with more practice.
I have to add that even though my soul or spirit or whatever you choose to call it is not from Earth, the connection to Earth is very strong, if not stronger than with many others that consider themselves native to the planet. That is a personal opinion that wanted to share I have sensed.

Thank you TH for another thread.

[Ikarusion]

I guess for me the issue that gets in the way regarding channeling is that I don’t believe in it at all.

hello trainee.

ive been reading your posts, mostly in the OBE thread for the last two weeks. i find them very interesting.
however, right now i would like to ask for your opinon, if i may, on a channeller called darryl anka.

darryl is channeling an et entity existing in the far future, which calls himself bashar for about 20 years now.

before i came in contact with some of his videos on youtube i never thought much about channeling, and at first i thought: hmm, is he channeling or is he pretending to?
however the information he gives to people seems very helpful and somehow makes sense to me. hence, i am inclined to believe that he is actually channeling bashar.

since you seem spiritually acquired a lot of skills and learned a lot about the mechanics of the spiritwold, i would like to hear your take on darryl/bashar.

whenever you have time :)
you can find a lot on youtube, even though he had a large amount of videos deleted.
he seems to make good money with his work and apparently doesnt like too much wisdom to spread without paid tribute.
thats a point that gets me back into speculation of his skills.

anyway, take care all. sorry for redirecting the topic a bit.

[TraineeHuman]

Channeling has been around for a long time. I've had the opportunity to observe it from very close up and from various levels or states of consciousness and also to discuss it with some extremely masterful clairvoyants. Also to temporarily fool myself and other very clairvoyant individuals that I was doing it very effectively. In a nutshell, some of the material by "Bashar" is very wise and no doubt is ultimately coming, at least in part, from Darryl Anka's Higher Self/ Higher Mind / Soul-- or maybe even from a higher level again, such as Darryl Anka's Truth-Consciousness or his Higher Heart and so forth.

And I guess that one can argue that, as with anyone else, the Higher Mind might more properly be given a different name than the label one's body and lower self are known by. However, the Higher Mind should always, at the times it is descended into the lower self's world, be integrated with the lower self, even if that's only temporary. If it's not, then I claim to know that that's dangerous or at best certainly makes the messages supposedly from it quite unreliable. Any channeler for whose wisdom I would have any respect at all would at least be able to integrate easily with his or her Higher Mind.

In the OBEs... thread I've talked sometimes at length about how at certain higher levels or states of consciousness the ordinary mind gets transcended or made "silent". But at such levels as I'm referring to here, the knowledge being gained can't, in large part, be translated into the ordinary mind's terms. And to the extent that it can be, this can only be done once one has come out of such a higher state and back into one where the ordinary mind can function again.

One of my best clairvoyant teachers was someone whose weekly spiritual circle I attended every week for eleven months. She was extraordinarily gifted. For instance, she could take the entire group, usually including any raw newcomers, fully astral traveling within about one minute from a "standing start", and enable all of them to stay at some astral or mental plane for as long as you like. One thing she also did each week was to "channel". She would supposedly leave her body and allow it to be taken over by certain "guides", usually the same ones each week. But as time went by, I noted that these "guides" all had exactly the same advice to give to particular members of the group as she herself had when she wasn't "out". I also carefully observed what was going on when she was supposedly "out", and eventually noted that her aura and energy field didn't separate from her physical body at all, not one inch. She would make a big song and dance when she "returned" about how she didn't know what had been said while she had been "out", and that she didn't know which "guides" had come through. Not as if the "guides" changed much from one week to the next.

Another one of the most extraordinary clairvoyant teachers I've had once joked with me that she should claim that all her clairvoyant readings were being done by someone else, with some fancy-sounding made-up name. Then she could say it was that individual's fault if any of the detailed medical diagnoses or detailed career or relationship advice she was dishing out happened to turn out to be inaccurate or unpopular.