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HORIZONS
15th January 2012, 14:19
The water we drink, the food we eat, the air we breath are all under attack - here is just another assault in that war:
Health Authorities Want Depression-Causing Drugs Added To Water Supply
As if fluoride and hexavalent chromium in public water supplies aren’t bad enough, health authorities are now pushing for the addition of drug statins as well. Drug companies claim that statins will lower cholesterol and prevent heart attacks and strokes, but researchers have proven that the drugs only benefit a quarter of people taking them. There are some very troubling side-effects, especially if there is no history of heart problems.
Health authorities are pushing for drugs to be added to public water supplies that cause depression and memory loss, as a new study shows that the dangers of statins have been deliberately underplayed by drug companies, in a chilling throwback to how the population in Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World were mass medicated with Soma to keep them docile and easy to control.
The idea of adding drugs to the water supply to biochemically manipulate the thoughts and emotions of populations has gone from the realm of science fiction in Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World, where people were mass medicated with Soma to keep them docile and easy to control, to an imminent reality.
Indeed, during a March 20, 1962 Berkeley University speech, Huxley spoke of how humans would be made to “love their servitude” via the state-sponsored introduction of mind-altering drugs.
“There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution,” said Huxley.
Full article: http://healthfreedoms.org/2011/02/15/health-authorities-want-depression-causing-drugs-added-to-water-supply-2/
Flash
15th January 2012, 14:52
I hope we will know what is being added up. Lately I discover that bottled water had preservative added to it. So the bottled "source" water is not pure, there is chemicals added to it. Nobody knew this.
I bet much is already added up we don't know about. Time for reverse osmosis filtering system, on the kitchen tap as welll as in the shower/bath (water is greatly absorbed through the skin).
Statin is very bad, on the long run it destroys the energy catalyst in the body.
Jonathon
15th January 2012, 16:26
I have been using the counter top version of PureWaterSystems unit for 2 years now and think it's the greatest thing since fried pickles:
http://www.purewatersystems.com/. Highly recommended. Here is a quick excerpt:
Our water filters provide complete removal of all contaminants from drinking water including:
Radioactive Particles, Arsenic, Fluoride, Hexavalent Chromium, Lead, Mercury,
and all other heavy metals
Drug & Pharmaceutical by-products
Nitrates & Nitrites
Industrial chemicals and solvents like TCE, MTBE, VOC's, etc.
Herbicides and pesticides
Bacteria, cyst, virus
BlueGem
15th January 2012, 16:34
Statins can cause memory loss in people without a heart condition? This alone should be a reason to throw this idea out. Is this a joke, just to see how passive these morally bankrupt 'scientists' can make the general population. You can bet the people treating the water are NOT drinking it. No, I imagine they have private mountain springs while the remaining plebs have to drink pool water.
It's a shame we have to protect ourselves from the greatest natural resource we have :(
DreamsInDigital
15th January 2012, 17:32
BlueGem,
It's been how "THEY" have been doing it all along, for thousands of years. Even the Off Worlders admit that's how they controlled the populations long before. By spiking the water. The oceans were for a while fresh water, but one of the races wanted to control the water supply so they salinated it and now only about 7% of the planet's water is fresh water. And United States has 4% of it. Control the water supply you control the planet's populations.
Currently I get all my water that I drink and cook with from an underground natural well at the ranch where I board my pony.
HORIZONS
15th January 2012, 19:04
I am to the point where I distill alot of my water - I get my minerals from other sources - you just can't trust anything anymore. A good RO water system is my next best choice for water filtration.
kcbc2010
16th January 2012, 00:03
I find this (sadly) ironic (not sure if that's the right word); however, it's fascinating information considering how many people are on anti-depressants and I'm not sure how well they are filtered out of the water supply.
Flash
16th January 2012, 00:09
I have been using the counter top version of PureWaterSystems unit for 2 years now and think it's the greatest thing since fried pickles:
http://www.purewatersystems.com/. Highly recommended. Here is a quick excerpt:
Our water filters provide complete removal of all contaminants from drinking water including:
Radioactive Particles, Arsenic, Fluoride, Hexavalent Chromium, Lead, Mercury,
and all other heavy metals
Drug & Pharmaceutical by-products
Nitrates & Nitrites
Industrial chemicals and solvents like TCE, MTBE, VOC's, etc.
Herbicides and pesticides
Bacteria, cyst, virus
Fried pickles, fried pickles! Never heard of ate, you have to tell me more about this.
And thanks for the recommendation.
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I find this (sadly) ironic (not sure if that's the right word); however, it's fascinating information considering how many people are on anti-depressants and I'm not sure how well they are filtered out of the water supply.
I read an article lately that was giving the amount of anti-depressant and anti-anovulant (birth control) found in my city's drinking water. No, those are not filtered. And the amount was staggering.
You are right, I had never tought of this link between depression,in large cities and these chemicals creating havoc in the body.
ThePythonicCow
16th January 2012, 00:23
I have been using the counter top version of PureWaterSystems unit for 2 years now and think it's the greatest thing since fried pickles:
http://www.purewatersystems.com/. Highly recommended. Here is a quick excerpt:
I'm partial to Pure Water Products (http://www.purewaterproducts.com/) myself. I have a whole house filter to get out the chlorine, and a reverse osmosis filter under the kitchen sink to get out the fluoride for drinking. Then I add a splash of Willard Water and a dash of Celtic sea salt to remineralize it.
Jonathon
16th January 2012, 04:12
Hey Paul - I also find the addition of celtic sea salt is perfect for remineralizing the water. Willard water - had to look that up! What has been your history and experience with it so far?
Flash - yes fried pickles! LOL. Sliced (chips) dill pickles, battered and fried. A Mississippi delicacy! Quite good =)
astrid
16th January 2012, 04:17
I have a RO filter too in my kitchen, its my number one favorite gadget.
Its meant to be one of the best ways to deal with Fluoride and other
chemicals. I went on a HUGE detox over the last 12 months,
and clean water was an important part of that process for me.
And i must say i really noticed the difference, in my health,
especially my mental focus.
ThePythonicCow
16th January 2012, 04:28
Hey Paul - I also find the addition of celtic sea salt is perfect for remineralizing the water. Willard water - had to look that up! What has been your history and experience with it so far?
I presume it adds the minerals it says it adds: http://www.drugs.com/npp/willard-water.html
water, sodium metasilicate, sulfated castor oil, CAW micelle, refined lignite, calcium chloride, and magnesium sulfate.
I don't "experience" such changes from any one specific element of my diet directly ... just do what I can to get good food and water.
Anchor
16th January 2012, 10:34
For Aussies: http://www.juicersaustralia.com.au/genie-deluxe-water-distiller.shtml
I have one and use it during the week when I am on tap water. We start it with hot water, saves some time - and we already paid to heat it. Expect to spend 3.5hrs on 750W for about 2.6KWh of electricity ( 30-70 cents, depending on how badly you are rorted on your electricity) - if you have solar, make sure the sun is shining first!
--- update ---
I don't have an RO filter, but I read a bit about them. If you do have an RO filter, ensure you keep the filter in good order. They don't last for ever; and they don't fail safe - so if they fail (membrane is breached), the water is unfiltered.
There is debate as to the effectiveness of RO for ionized fluorides (like the ones in the town water), and I find the logic compelling - but I am not a Chemist. It was enough for me to go for the distiller with a activated charcoal post filter.
eg: Reverse Osmosis does not remove fluorides (http://orbisvitae.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=17523)
I guess its all down to the membrane type used and the size of the pores in the membrane.
ThePythonicCow
17th January 2012, 19:56
There is debate as to the effectiveness of RO for ionized fluorides (like the ones in the town water), and I find the logic compelling - but I am not a Chemist. It was enough for me to go for the distiller with a activated charcoal post filter.
eg: Reverse Osmosis does not remove fluorides (http://orbisvitae.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=17523)
I guess its all down to the membrane type used and the size of the pores in the membrane.
I'd guess you're right -- that how much fluoride a reverse osmosis (RO) filter removes depends on the membrane. But I'd expect most of it to be removed by a properly working RO filter.
The only claim I can find that RO doesn't remove fluoride is the post you linked, and the only reference that post provides to back its claims is to a web site that is no longer online. The distinction in that post between the affectiveness of RO on dissolved solids and on ions seems spurious to me; I'd expect dissolved minerals to ionize. And there is no reason I can see why RO filters would categorically fail to remove ionized minerals - reverse osmosis is a well known way to desalinate water, and certainly dissolved salt ionizes in water, to sodium and chlorine ions of similar size to fluorine ions.
I doubt the claims on the post you linked :).
ThePythonicCow
18th January 2012, 08:41
Good grief -- talk about adding depressing causing drugs to our water -- this is depressing. It seems fluoride in our water could also cause coronary artery disease.
Granted, the article associates fluoride uptake with artery disease, so perhaps it means that diseased arteries attract more fluoride, or perhaps it means that more fluoride harms arteries.
From http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21946616
Nucl Med Commun. 2012 Jan;33(1):14-20.
Association of vascular fluoride uptake with vascular calcification and coronary artery disease.
Li Y, Berenji GR, Shaba WF, Tafti B, Yevdayev E, Dadparvar S.
VA Greater Los Angeles Healthcare System, Los Angeles, California 90073, USA.
Abstract
OBJECTIVE:
The feasibility of a fluoride positron emission tomography/computed tomography (PET/CT) scan for imaging atherosclerosis has not been well documented. The purpose of this study was to assess fluoride uptake of vascular calcification in various major arteries, including coronary arteries.
METHODS:
We retrospectively reviewed the imaging data and cardiovascular history of 61 patients who received whole-body sodium [¹⁸F]fluoride PET/CT studies at our institution from 2009 to 2010. Fluoride uptake and calcification in major arteries, including coronary arteries, were analyzed by both visual assessment and standardized uptake value measurement.RESULTS:
Fluoride uptake in vascular walls was demonstrated in 361 sites of 54 (96%) patients, whereas calcification was observed in 317 sites of 49 (88%) patients. Significant correlation between fluoride uptake and calcification was observed in most of the arterial walls, except in those of the abdominal aorta. Fluoride uptake in coronary arteries was demonstrated in 28 (46%) patients and coronary calcifications were observed in 34 (56%) patients. There was significant correlation between history of cardiovascular events and presence of fluoride uptake in coronary arteries. The coronary fluoride uptake value in patients with cardiovascular events was significantly higher than in patients without cardiovascular events.
CONCLUSION:
sodium [¹⁸F]fluoride PET/CT might be useful in the evaluation of the atherosclerotic process in major arteries, including coronary arteries. An increased fluoride uptake in coronary arteries may be associated with an increased cardiovascular risk.
wolf_rt
18th January 2012, 08:48
anyone care to comment on the effectiveness of charcoal filters for removing fluoride... i cant afford a RO filter, but i do have a charcoal filter for drinking water.
How about distillation? is it possible that the fluoride boils off in the same way as chlorine? If so i would have thought that distillation would capture the fluoride and chlorine again?
perhaps open boiling, before distillation would provide the best of both worlds.
Also i have dealt with http://www.juicersaustralia.com.au and found there service good.
ThePythonicCow
18th January 2012, 09:20
anyone care to comment on the effectiveness of charcoal filters for removing fluoride... i cant afford a RO filter, but i do have a charcoal filter for drinking water.
How about distillation? is it possible that the fluoride boils off in the same way as chlorine? If so i would have thought that distillation would capture the fluoride and chlorine again?
perhaps open boiling, before distillation would provide the best of both worlds.
Also i have dealt with http://www.juicersaustralia.com.au and found there service good.
I'm quite sure that charcoal filters do not remove fluoride, and pretty certain that distillation does remove it. Distillation should also remove more volatile elements such as chlorine, via a gas vent hole, as described at http://mizar5.com/distill/faq.htm
Anchor
18th January 2012, 09:21
I accept that there appears to be little information on any ineffectiveness of RO for flouride.
I am no chemist, but I also think that claims that RO is not effective may be flawed, because the first time I ever heard of RO was for sea going vessels "water makers" which remove sodium chloride's and all the other stuff you dont want out of sea water to make potable water. Energy intensive and slow, but when you are in the sea, you dont care about the amount of rejected water so the designs are easier.
So unless my chemistry is really screwed flourides and chlorides are both halides and may be work the same with RO. I do not know though.
So - is there a freaking test we can do?
Conspiracy corner time:
TPTB want you to ingest fluorides.
We dont want to and use web to find ways around the problem
TPTB manipulate the available information to make it seem RO is suitably effective!
We all buy RO filters and remain under the effects of fluorisis
The only way around this I can see is a test.
Are there any chemists here who know of a reliable home test that can be done without getting you busted as a potential drug dealer :) (In Australia you cant even buy chemistry glassware without a licence!)
wolf_rt
18th January 2012, 09:32
I'm quite sure that charcoal filters do not remove fluoride, and pretty certain that distillation does remove it. Distillation should also remove more volatile elements such as chlorine, via a gas vent hole, as described at http://mizar5.com/distill/faq.htm
well that sucks... i thought i was good, i'll have to come up with a DIY distillation design... if i have any luck i'll post it here...
should be ok to use copper pipe though right? bit of copper wont hurt?
ThePythonicCow
18th January 2012, 10:17
should be ok to use copper pipe though right? bit of copper wont hurt?
beats lead pipe :).
One can get reverse osmosis units for as little as $235 at http://www.purewaterproducts.com/economyro.htm, with free shipping within the U.S. (but not for down under - sorry.)
wolf_rt
18th January 2012, 10:25
that is quite cheap... unfortunately im unemployed atm, so my budget is more like $20...lol
Anchor
18th January 2012, 10:46
wolf, over time, the cost of distillation is the energy required, not the cost of the unit.
Mulder
18th January 2012, 11:06
I'm finding they are adding fluoride to more and more products now - it's even in fruit juices! It's already absorbed into the fruit through pesticides and through fertilisers, now they're adding full strength fluoride to juices! I'm sure if they made lollies out of fluoride & sugar, the sheeple would line up to buy them. I can't seem to wake many people up, so it looks like it's going to be curtains for the sheeple soon - as Gerald Celente said the elite are "thinning out the herd" so as long as the sheeple display mass "Stockholm Syndrome" I'm at a loss what to do for them.
Anchor
18th January 2012, 11:48
I'm at a loss what to do for them.
I am human becoming, help me become.
We are humans becoming, help us become.
They are humans becoming, help them become.
wolf_rt
18th January 2012, 12:18
found that the council is using Na2SiF6 Sodium Fluorosilicate, in the water... have been doing a bit of research... great stuff....
I cant really figure out if this crap changes its composition when added to the water though? and hence what would be the best way to remove it...
I did find that its a really excellent solvent for lead though... just gets better and better doesn't it.
http://www.oag-bvg.gc.ca/internet/English/pet_245_e_30941.html
Looks like drinking boiled (distilled?) tank water might be an easier option than trying to get all this **** out of the town water.
Also need to invest in a pressure pump for the tank, so i can hook the shower up to it.
HORIZONS
18th January 2012, 13:41
should be ok to use copper pipe though right? bit of copper wont hurt?
beats lead pipe :).
One can get reverse osmosis units for as little as $235 at http://www.purewaterproducts.com/economyro.htm, with free shipping within the U.S. (but not for down under - sorry.)
I have seen them selling for less than that at home improvement stores like Lowes - and the install is simple so that anyone can do it. Well worth the price of the unit, especially if you consider the price of your health.
ljwheat
18th January 2012, 14:39
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I too have for the last 20 years used the water distiller for drinking water, I also have in my survival back pack one of these life saver filter bottles.
wolf_rt
18th January 2012, 14:44
I have been meaning to get one of these Katadyn ceramic filters... but funds don't permit atm... and they wouldnt do anything for fluoride or chlorine anyway... but you can just drink what ever muddy slop you come across!
http://katadyn.cust.shopatron.com/media/dimg/f2518ff2748bb1aeacdbec982ff66760.jpg?l=4&w=210&h=270
http://www.katadyn.com/sgen/katadyn-products/products/katadynshopconnect/katadyn-wasserfilter-endurance-series-produkte/katadyn-pocket/
ThePythonicCow
18th January 2012, 15:40
I too have for the last 20 years used the water distiller for drinking water, I also have in my survival back pack one of these life saver filter bottles.
Beware - the "Life Saver" bottle shown in that video has a shelf life "up to 3 years", unopened. That's right - three years after you buy it, even if you've left it unused and unopened, it's past its "use by" date. From the instruction sheet (inside the box) on the one I bought August 2008 (also online, such as here (http://www.lifesaverbottleusa1.com/faqs.html)):
LIFESAVER bottle has a shelf life unopened of up to 3 years.
See also this more extended review on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/review/R1B5WUWQ2ZURTZ/ref=cm_cr_dp_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B001EHF99A&nodeID=3375251&tag=&linkCode=).
Molly
25th January 2012, 06:26
BlueGem,
It's been how "THEY" have been doing it all along, for thousands of years. Even the Off Worlders admit that's how they controlled the populations long before. By spiking the water. The oceans were for a while fresh water, but one of the races wanted to control the water supply so they salinated it and now only about 7% of the planet's water is fresh water. And United States has 4% of it. Control the water supply you control the planet's populations.
Currently I get all my water that I drink and cook with from an underground natural well at the ranch where I board my pony.
When visiting Washington State this past November, my friend & I were driving somewhere between Spokane & Wenatchee, & noticed one of the big lakes had been drained. Not dried up, but drained. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
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