Meditation is very simple.

[Tony]

Meditation is very simple.

Look...see....drop.....rest!

When looking out there is a sense of seeing.
In being aware of this seeing there is knowing,
the attention moves inward.
In looking inward there is a sense of knowing.
No thing is known, there is just knowing.

This just knowing, is pure knowing.

Drop everything, do not modify anything.
Rest in this natural ordinary state.

The senses are wide open. Thoughts will
come, let them pass, do not follow.

In just resting, just knowing...
...you are now meditating ...or just being!

Now you are just being, meditation is now
the continuity of being.



More detail.

Bum on Cushion

As long as you are relaxed and your back is straight,
you can sit on a chair or cushion.
Lying down is possible, but one tends to go to sleep.
Sitting straight helps with natural breathing and flow,
and keeps your mind alert.
Hands on lap or thighs, eyes slightly open, or open.
If there are many thoughts, just lower the gaze.
If you are feeling sleepy, raise the gaze.
Nothing forced, everything relaxed.

The senses are wide open.
Here we may have to make a distinction between paths. This is called Shamata meditation, and it uses the breath as a focus. Merely noticing the inhalation and exhalation, thoughts will come - just return to watching the breath. The thoughts may seem to get worse. They are not - you are just noticing more! The point here is that it is your time to relax, rest and be at peace. The body is still, and gradually the mind becomes still...but aware! You can go back to thinking later. This is called Shamata with support.

Sometimes, we find ourselves in a vacant state, a dreamy state, which can be mistaken for meditation, but it's not.
It is a state of ignorance...not knowing. When we are day dreaming, we are cut off from our senses, and from what is around us.


Once we are more or less comfortable with watching the breath, we come to Shamata without support. This is simply noticing that at the end and beginning of each breath, there is a gap - or we notice a gap between thoughts.
In that gap, we rest naturally.
There is a still 'nowness' present, and the senses remain wide open.
With the senses wide open and the sense of nowness, one can take the meditation into daily life. One experiences moments of spaciousness.

Shamata with and without support are both still at a conceptual level, but it's a start.
It is building a firm foundation.
It's good to notice the difference between the two, as sometimes we have to return to Shamata with support when thoughts are rampant!


Tony

[Peter Kraai]

You have no idea how much I needed this post ! Great stuff Tony :)

[philosopher]

Sometimes, we find ourselves in a vacant state, a dreamy state, which can be mistaken for meditation, but it's not.
It is a state of ignorance...not knowing. When we are day dreaming, we are cut off from our senses, and from what is around us.

Tony

can you tell me what was the next experience all about?

at some point becomes feeling like you'v gone or dissolved. it's like you lost your body. your mind exists and it feels like there is no those senses you experience in every day life. it's like phisical world dessapired but there also a sence of a different state of mind like it has just encountered the other reality that has nothing to do with our world. and it's like you gained new set of senses but it is so new to you that you can yet perceive them consciously.

it is the closest i could describe it. but it is still far from true picture. maybe you would be able to shed some light on this.

thank you in advance

[Tony]

Dear philosopher

This is a really, really, really tricky question about a delicate matter.
The answer will depend on your mindset, and the information that you have heard, because there are followers of the Vipassana path who do “cut off” from their senses when practising, and may get many unusual experiences.
The path that I follow is the Tantric path of direct seeing, so the answer will be different from the answer given by someone from the Vipassana perspective.
In direct seeing, there is pure perception. If you want to look it up, it is called the Dzogchen tradition, and empty essence is known as 'rigpa'. From this point of view, all appearances in the mind or the physical are mere distractions. But, they are also perfect reflections of essence, as everything that appears is empty in essence and has no substantiality.
One of the problems with discussing this is that information is not knowledge until there is experience of that information: then we have experiential/empirical knowledge. The outcome of this knowledge is wisdom: knowing our true nature. The outcome of that is compassion.
Sometimes, people need a path with experiences and flowers.
Sometimes, people's paths are totally clear.
Some of us stop now and again to read the signs and travel brochures.
Sometimes, people's paths are a combination.
It all depends on what one is drawn to – this is why one cannot be dogmatic in any way.

So, to try and simplify the answer...anything that appears is a product of mind projection: a projection of consciousness.
It is thus irrelevant, but sometimes people make it into a big deal, until they decide to let go!
If you are looking, everything is in progress.

Regards
Tony

PS if you are interested, and want to know more, go to the Groups...there is a Meditation Group with info on it.

[Tony]

It's a pity we have to used the word meditation, all it is, is being ordinary, allowing the mind to just reflect without clinging to anything. When we cling to our baggage, we limit our experiences.

When we let go of our baggage, we also increase our intelligence, and are more jolly.

Tony

[shijo]

It's a pity we have to used the word meditation, all it is, is being ordinary, allowing the mind to just reflect without clinging to anything. When we cling to our baggage, we limit our experiences.

When we let go of our baggage, we also increase our intelligence, and are more jolly.

Tony And it doesnt cost a penny....

[bridgetlilstar]

like the way you did use words Pie'neal.. there's that dichotomy when it comes to describing or analysing meditation: everyone's experiences of it will be different, creating different outcomes or results. Meditation is simple yet so complex:) Yes, being, just being the oberver and the observed. No judging. Just letting go. No trying to control this thought or that feeling. Wonderful "tool"

Love to all,

Bridget

[mahalall]

Hi Pie

if i could just clarify to a word shared

it only becomes unusual when one cuts off the sense of mind.

For if one is practising Vipassana with mindfulness of anicca, even the dissolution experience is seen for as it is-impermanent.

enjoying your walks

metta

(a vipassanee on secondment)

[gs_powered]

It's a pity we have to used the word meditation, all it is, is being ordinary, allowing the mind to just reflect without clinging to anything. When we cling to our baggage, we limit our experiences.

When we let go of our baggage, we also increase our intelligence, and are more jolly.

Tony

It's funny because when I started wanting to know more about meditation, I found out that part of me was already doing it sometimes.
Now that I want to meditate it's a little trickier... One thing I'm having trouble with is the eyes being opened or just gazing, they keep closing and that's how I've been doing it, no falling asleep so far :)

[Tony]

Dear gs

Whatever you find comfortable is right. It also depends on which kind of meditation you are doing.

However, trying with the eyes slightly open - or fully open - does have the benefit of the senses being wide open and unblocked, and it also helps one to then meditate in everyday life.
When closing the eyes, one should be aware of not drifting into a dreamy, or a vacant state.

You have found what works for you. For anyone else reading this, try both ways and see which works best.
Tony

[gs_powered]

Ok, now I really must try with my eyes wide open... btw, do you focus on something physical or just gaze the emptiness?

[Tony]

Ok, now I really must try with my eyes wide open... btw, do you focus on something physical or just gaze the emptiness?

Eyes open, but not strained.
Become aware of peripheral vision - this produces a sense of spaciousness.
A clear mind, like a mirror that reflects everything.
All senses open and relaxed.
Be aware of the gentle breath.

That's it!

Tony

[nf857]

[QUOTE]Sometimes, people need a path with experiences and flowers.
Sometimes, people's paths are totally clear.
Some of us stop now and again to read the signs and travel brochures.
Sometimes, people's paths are a combination.
It all depends on what one is drawn to – this is why one cannot be dogmatic in any way.


Hi Pineal, very intersted to know what mediation we all should be following, & can you tell us more about other meditation that others use? There are meditations on raising your vibration? However i find mine is already raised to the highest platform in this existence. There are ones called DMT,these are supposed to bring about the astral plane without doing the drug itself- it has been proven that DMT is an anti-addictive drug, thereby you can never get addicted to it. Ive never done it though lol, id rather not make myself a human guniea pig. The list goes on and on on, i think the best one ive found as one with 'gongs' going on in the background & a gorgeous waterfall can be heard. What do you listen too? I see the music is supposed to just help the mind relax, i know however that later technologies have known been proven to actually bring this about as well. I bet you dont have to use any music do you?

Your quote above, ive found ive walked the path, many many many times, however it always leads me back on the same path? x

[exchange student]

Hello fellow avalonians,

I have just recently started practicing the art of meditation, I have noticed that I feel more relaxed after meditation to the point where i can barely sleep.

Is it healthy to replace sleeping with meditation?

Cheers,

Steve

[David Trd1]

Thank you,refreshing:)

[Tony]

Hello fellow avalonians,

I have just recently started practicing the art of meditation, I have noticed that I feel more relaxed after meditation to the point where i can barely sleep.

Is it healthy to replace sleeping with meditation?

Cheers,

Steve

Hello Steve,
Your body and mind needs sleep. Don't do a lot of meditation before sleep...it will wake you up!
However, because of a meditational life, sleep may become lighter.
It is possible to practice in dream sleep, this is important in death practices.

Better to fall asleep with compassion to all sentient beings.
It is possible to need less sleep because of meditation, but be wise and healthy.

Yours,
Tony

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[QUOTE]Sometimes, people need a path with experiences and flowers.
Sometimes, people's paths are totally clear.
Some of us stop now and again to read the signs and travel brochures.
Sometimes, people's paths are a combination.
It all depends on what one is drawn to – this is why one cannot be dogmatic in any way.


Hi Pineal, very intersted to know what mediation we all should be following, & can you tell us more about other meditation that others use? There are meditations on raising your vibration? However i find mine is already raised to the highest platform in this existence. There are ones called DMT,these are supposed to bring about the astral plane without doing the drug itself- it has been proven that DMT is an anti-addictive drug, thereby you can never get addicted to it. Ive never done it though lol, id rather not make myself a human guniea pig. The list goes on and on on, i think the best one ive found as one with 'gongs' going on in the background & a gorgeous waterfall can be heard. What do you listen too? I see the music is supposed to just help the mind relax, i know however that later technologies have known been proven to actually bring this about as well. I bet you dont have to use any music do you?

Your quote above, ive found ive walked the path, many many many times, however it always leads me back on the same path? x

Dear nf,

Meditation is just .....being .....ordinary.

Always go back to simplicity,

Love,
Tony

[nf857]

Meditation is just .....being .....ordinary.

Always go back to simplicity,



Yes my life is nothing but simplistic in its very nature, i have a very limited life to others, however to me my life is very full, full of the un-complications lol, can it be said that as i am just being, in the moment always that i am reaching the meditative state without meditating? x

[tgops]

I am an ardent follower of Swami Vivekananda....whenever I meditate I try to picture him in front of my eyes...and along with him Mother Kali...trust me it works...:D

[Tony]

I am an ardent follower of Swami Vivekananda....whenever I meditate I try to picture him in front of my eyes...and along with him Mother Kali...trust me it works...:D

Dear tgops
I agree with you! Bhakti yoga - devotion - is a key element in practice.

Tony

[nf857]

Hi Pineal,

Advice to your beleive in parastic gods and false gods? Do you beleive the operate from the fourth dimension into the 3rd? As this is affecting my life right now, what is the point in assessing the 8th dimension if its not going to help my circumstances? Right now NWO is happening in my country, its affecting me. The 'Sick/Disabled' are having their welfare rights took away, & gving them nothing to live off. If i dont win my appeal, i will be seriously affected by this, in fact im having suicidal thoughts brought about by these negative entities, they are working through my GPS & The Decision Makers & The Appeals/Tribunals boards????

What advice for my 'Now' ? x

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P.S Sorry for my typing im having a very bad day, due to the nature of my illness which is neurogical.parastic organic in nature, they attack my thoughts thereby stopping me to spell correctly i do and can spell perfectly so please read between the lines sometimes when i type.

Above i meant to say Can you give me advice in your beleif of parastic gods and false gods? x

[Tony]

Dear nf,
I have no idea what parastic gods and false gods are, also I have no idea about other dimensions.
Unfortunately people on this forum may be talking about this stuff, and driving others crazy... it does my head in!

I am sorry you are having a bad day. How often do you feel like this?
I agree with you that the weak are being squeezed by uncaring decision makers.

Negative energies can only control us, if we allow it. As you say relying on external
power does seem silly. From a buddhist perspective deities are only a reflection of
our true nature. So Chenrezi is the Lord of Compassion, which only serves to
enhance our own compassion. But they cannot do anything for us...but wish us well.

I cannot give advice, only share.
Somehow you have to relax your mind a little.

much affection,
Tony

[joedjemal]

I started meditating while going about my daily tasks a couple of years ago, even managed to meditate in a dream a couple of weeks back for the first time. The last few days though I've been having a bit of trouble silencing "mind worms" snatches of tunes or bits of music that get stuck and keep repeating themselves. Slightly irritating. It never used to be a problem, I'm rather curious about why it's become one now.

[Tony]

I started meditating while going about my daily tasks a couple of years ago, even managed to meditate in a dream a couple of weeks back for the first time. The last few days though I've been having a bit of trouble silencing "mind worms" snatches of tunes or bits of music that get stuck and keep repeating themselves. Slightly irritating. It never used to be a problem, I'm rather curious about why it's become one now.

Are talking about being mindful, or being aware? This is not the same as meditation...hmm...well it is in the way it is shamata with support. Sort of concentrating.
But meditation, or the next stage is resting in inner space...shamta without support. Once one recognises that inner awareness of space, then it can be appreciated in daily activities.

There are moments during the day where one can just drop everything. Even if the mind worm chases after songs, which is a product of the past....pure awareness is still present.
It just goes unnoticed.

I still get tunes I heard 50 years ago, and start singing them...to the great annoyance to the wife!!!!

All the best,
Tony

[joedjemal]

Not sure what you mean Pie'neal. What I call meditation is completely silencing all thoughts and emotions whilst being completely aware.

It doesn't mean nothing's going on though, I usually start seeing and hearing things. It normally starts with a tunnel full of what looks like animated sacred geometry and fractals. Then sometimes I start seeing scenes as real as being there, but if I start thinking about them they vanish. When gardening I shut off the babbling and internal chatter and just do. I can spend days at a time like that. If I don't deliberately turn off the chatter it just goes on and on indefinitely.

[Tony]

Hello Joe,
It all sounds fine, being completely aware.
This is only a suggestion for being a little stuck. Could you be too tight in your awareness? To just allow thoughts and emotion to arise, but not act on them. To merely rest naturally. So whatever comes there is no blockage.

Your shape appearances sound fascinating. But whatever appears in the mind is only a temporary phenomena, that which is aware of all this......is the real deal!


Tony

[joedjemal]

You could well be right there, i try not to allow anything i originate to emerge, i'll try being a bit less controlled and see what happens.

[im awake]

ok tony you seem like an expert on this stuff maybe you can help me
so around 15 hours ago i decided to try and use my third eye for the first time i looked through a few youtube vids and decided to go for it.
my first try and by far the strangest one so far, i relaxed back on my bed and started to focus inbetween my eyes before i knew it i was starting to float towards a very bright yellow sky and i couldnt get back to my body and as i floated higher and higher i could feel my heart racing it honestly felt like i was dying i started to dribble from my mouth and my heart felt like it was beating a thousand times a second i could feel it about to pop out of my chest and as i felt like i was about to die i was able to get back to my body.

After calming myself down i tried to get back to this state in the next few hours but just felt like a waste of time,after a few hours had passed and i kept trying i finnaly broke through, this time i was not scared i was in the universe i could travel anywhere without limitations and i did for around 30 mins i just traveled anywhere and everywhere i found myself in the matrix(all the green stuff), i met only a few beings and they just told me that i wasnt allowed in this part and to go somewhere else. it was like i was an orb of infinte time energy speed i had no senses it was very colourful after about 30 mins for some reason i decided to try and contact my pet dog through this state and i gave my dog orders to come to me she had been asleep for hours but as soon as i told her to come to me she came and jumped on my bed and woke me up from my state. did i really just do that contact my dog through telepathy?? maybe or maybe it was just a coincidence who knows.

But anyway now all i do is close my eyes and disable my eyes(i dont know how) but as soon as i disable my eyes i think i own nothing i know nothing and within a few seconds i am back in the universe doing what ever i want as an orb traveling where i want except i cant go to the sun for some reason its to bright, i can do this as many times and for how long i want its like a gods gift i stopped for awhile now since my brain feels soar.

my question is. is this the third eye is this another dimention or just simple my imagination or maybe all 3? i can go back to that place instantly if i just disable my eyes and clear my thoughts. do you think its even possible to get the third eye working in only a few hours? thanks aaron


i know my grammer and spelling are bad but i dont have time for an english course at this time in my life and i dont care if people think i r dumb :)

[Tony]

ok tony you seem like an expert on this stuff maybe you can help me
so around 15 hours ago i decided to try and use my third eye for the first time i looked through a few youtube vids and decided to go for it.
my first try and by far the strangest one so far, i relaxed back on my bed and started to focus inbetween my eyes before i knew it i was starting to float towards a very bright yellow sky and i couldnt get back to my body and as i floated higher and higher i could feel my heart racing it honestly felt like i was dying i started to dribble from my mouth and my heart felt like it was beating a thousand times a second i could feel it about to pop out of my chest and as i felt like i was about to die i was able to get back to my body.

After calming myself down i tried to get back to this state in the next few hours but just felt like a waste of time,after a few hours had passed and i kept trying i finnaly broke through, this time i was not scared i was in the universe i could travel anywhere without limitations and i did for around 30 mins i just traveled anywhere and everywhere i found myself in the matrix(all the green stuff), i met only a few beings and they just told me that i wasnt allowed in this part and to go somewhere else. it was like i was an orb of infinte time energy speed i had no senses it was very colourful after about 30 mins for some reason i decided to try and contact my pet dog through this state and i gave my dog orders to come to me she had been asleep for hours but as soon as i told her to come to me she came and jumped on my bed and woke me up from my state. did i really just do that contact my dog through telepathy?? maybe or maybe it was just a coincidence who knows.

But anyway now all i do is close my eyes and disable my eyes(i dont know how) but as soon as i disable my eyes i think i own nothing i know nothing and within a few seconds i am back in the universe doing what ever i want as an orb traveling where i want except i cant go to the sun for some reason its to bright, i can do this as many times and for how long i want its like a gods gift i stopped for awhile now since my brain feels soar.

my question is. is this the third eye is this another dimention or just simple my imagination or maybe all 3? i can go back to that place instantly if i just disable my eyes and clear my thoughts. do you think its even possible to get the third eye working in only a few hours? thanks aaron


i know my grammer and spelling are bad but i dont have time for an english course at this time in my life and i dont care if people think i r dumb :)

Hello im awake,

I have no idea. It sounds amazing, but so do dreams. I am not poopooing this at all, because of what suppose to happen in the bardo (life after death).
Next time go somewhere where there are teachings and bring back some news. My only problem when people talk about out of body experiences is that
they tell of such ordinary things, that they have heard others say. Even Bob Dean.

Your real quest is the realise your true nature, don't get too distracted.

All the best,
Tony

[emeraldcity]

Thank you Tony for this beautiful line-by-line invitation to the stillness which is always there just beneath our thinking and activity.

I find concentration is important to my meditation. Meditation is, afterall, a practice and a form of work. There is a way to approach it that allows me to slip beneath the nets and webs of thought which frequently capture us and prevent us from going any deeper. Here I do two things:

1) I focus on a point in my body where I feel this stillness and inner intelligence lives and eminates from - usually somewhere at the bottom of my breath in my chest. I focus my mind there and use the rising and falling of my breath on that one point to keep my mind from wandering

2) I say inwardly "I give myself, as I am," and I direct my intention to giving my mind (as it is: whether tired, irrated, troubled) humbly and without any ambition, questioning or requirements, to this place of stillness within me.

Its this combination of concentration (for the mind) and openness and desire to reconnect give my mind to the the center of my being that I find brings me closer, day by day, to the presence which is most certainly there beneath the surface of life.

My best to all fellow meditators. Keep going. We are actively bringing freshness, clarity and comfort back into a troubled and divisive world.

[Strat]

Phenomenal info here Tony, thanks!

Quick question: How long should one meditate, and how often? Would you recommend setting a timer, or is it better to kind of feel it out?

[Tony]

Phenomenal info here Tony, thanks!

Quick question: How long should one meditate, and how often? Would you recommend setting a timer, or is it better to kind of feel it out?

Hello Strat,
Twice a day, for twenty minutes. Feel it, but a clock is handy, if you are enjoying too much!!!!
Just before sunrise and at sun set is good, but whenever you can fit it in is OK. Even doing it for ten minutes is a start.

If one could 'do it' for forty minutes that would give the body and mind more time to settle, and then it is becoming a main part of one's life.
If one is doing it for longer periods, remember to break the meditation...just relax, and then continue. This may sound funny to say relax 'from' meditation.
It's just to check that one is not getting tight in any way. Also in that very short break, you may find actual meditation taking place!!!

Remember not too tight not too loose.

Tony

[Dennis-G]

For me, meditation seems impossible. Too many thoughts. Perhaps I've never had a compelling reason to become better at it.

Perhaps the closest I come to being in a "meditative state" is when I'm playing my guitar and singing. Not playing songs I know, but just letting whatever flows, flow. I've been to some great places in song.

[Tony]

For me, meditation seems impossible. Too many thoughts. Perhaps I've never had a compelling reason to become better at it.

Perhaps the closest I come to being in a "meditative state" is when I'm playing my guitar and singing. Not playing songs I know, but just letting whatever flows, flow. I've been to some great places in song.

Here are two crumby videos which may or may not help. Am trying to work on a better quality. The reference to a weasel was a mistake....I meant rabbit!...?

n0IEmnzAL_4

Uz_ohjuFXOw

I think doodling is a wonderful thing,
Tony

[nf857]

Hi Pineal,

Thanks for the reply you are totally right, of course you are aware whats going on with the new benefit systems, you are from my country. Its a massive scam, government has paid £300 million pounds to ATOS to get everybody back into work, even the ones that are far too ill to even step outside their front door steps never mind attend job interviews. These people at ATOS have no medical background to be accessing people, they ask quick-fire question like Do your like to watch t.v.? Then turn that against you & type on your report, you like to watch t.v all day long, to make it look like you are not significantly ill. Its has killed quite a few people already, by being forced into work.

These ATOS doctors have already admitted that they get paid £40 per medical they do, & the more people they see in that day, the more they earn. Some people have been making £5,000 grand a week from that firm, just by rushing through the medicals & not assessing anybody properly. How am i supposed to ignore it? I know you said you can't really give advice, as you are teaching BUDDA philosophy, having to fight everyday to win my appeal & gather more and more evidence, & speaking to as many people as possible has made me even more ill. Im just wondering how/what i can can do with the Budda Teachings to help myself in this sitution?

Or maybe would you agree, its maybe not the best time to start putting Budda Teachings into practice? I dont know what to make of the discarnate evil operating on another dimension, however it does seem as if a lot of this negativity is operating in our dimension now x

[Tony]

Hi Pineal,

Thanks for the reply you are totally right, of course you are aware whats going on with the new benefit systems, you are from my country. Its a massive scam, government has paid £300 million pounds to ATOS to get everybody back into work, even the ones that are far too ill to even step outside their front door steps never mind attend job interviews. These people at ATOS have no medical background to be accessing people, they ask quick-fire question like Do your like to watch t.v.? Then turn that against you & type on your report, you like to watch t.v all day long, to make it look like you are not significantly ill. Its has killed quite a few people already, by being forced into work.

These ATOS doctors have already admitted that they get paid £40 per medical they do, & the more people they see in that day, the more they earn. Some people have been making £5,000 grand a week from that firm, just by rushing through the medicals & not assessing anybody properly. How am i supposed to ignore it? I know you said you can't really give advice, as you are teaching BUDDA philosophy, having to fight everyday to win my appeal & gather more and more evidence, & speaking to as many people as possible has made me even more ill. Im just wondering how/what i can can do with the Budda Teachings to help myself in this sitution?

Or maybe would you agree, its maybe not the best time to start putting Budda Teachings into practice? I dont know what to make of the discarnate evil operating on another dimension, however it does seem as if a lot of this negativity is operating in our dimension now x

I asked my teacher this summer, what to do about evil entities. He said, "Rest in empty awareness." In that state we cannot be touched, as we are beyond the physical. But if we identify with the body or thoughts we will suffer....as most people do! We have to look after our bodies and mind, but we also need some space.

Tony

[lyubomir]

Hi Tony,

Do you think that meditation is a statement like in hypnosis, but in meditation you can create and understand everything that happen in your mind. I hope you understand me.

Best Regards,

Lyubo

[Tony]

Hi Tony,

Do you think that meditation is a statement like in hypnosis, but in meditation you can create and understand everything that happen in your mind. I hope you understand me.

Best Regards,

Lyubo

Hello Lyubo, and welcome to the site!

If you mean hypnosis, like being in a trance, then no.
Meditation is coming out of the habitual trance.

In meditation you can see clearly what is going on in your mind.
It is our clinging consciousness that creates everything in the mind
....and in the world around us.

Merely look into the one that perceives this creation...and rest naturally.

The world doesn't change, but our clinging to it as real, gradually has less
of a grip. It doesn't change because we are still holding on to ideas about
ourselves.

I do too, that's why I'm still here....mind training!:dance:


All the best,
Tony

[lyubomir]

Hi Tony,

Thank your for answer and welcome message!

Your answer is really useful for me.

What do you think about the visualization, like close your eyes imagine what you want and start feeling like it's real and part of your life. Is that meditation too?

As I understand the meditation is something like the basic and most important statement from where we can go everywhere and do everything that will surely affect on our world and life.

Best Regards,

Lyubo

[Tony]

Hi Tony,

Thank your for answer and welcome message!

Your answer is really useful for me.

What do you think about the visualization, like close your eyes imagine what you want and start feeling like it's real and part of your life. Is that meditation too?

As I understand the meditation is something like the basic and most important statement from where we can go everywhere and do everything that will surely affect on our world and life.

Best Regards,

Lyubo

Hello Lyubo,

This is truly a difficult topic to talk about.
Long the lines of be careful what you wish for! Meditation is for inner development, or rather undoing all the knots. Inner knowledge can be used for pure or impure purposes. Impure meaning selfish aims. But good intention seems to attract fortunate circumstances! A bad intention can also attract fortunate circumstances....for a while!

What is important is a good heart.

There visualisation practices, they are to do with lights and deities, which can enhance one's own qualities like compassion.

If you mean visualising yourself at the finishing line....that can help. But that can also be a distraction!


Tony

[lyubomir]

Hi Tony,

You give me a very good and accurate answer for me... Thank you for your answers and time!

All the best,

Lyubo

[nf857]

I asked my teacher this summer, what to do about evil entities. He said, "Rest in empty awareness." In that state we cannot be touched, as we are beyond the physical. But if we identify with the body or thoughts we will suffer....as most people do! We have to look after our bodies and mind, but we also need some space.



Yes i agree Tony, i dont have a choice, i have to look after my mind/body otherwise i can get very poorly, i have to take regular rest periods, eat right/sleep right, do thearaputic things like chatting on here & drawing, etc etc. Its just fighting this system, has made me very poorly, im not used to having to fight, as im not supposed to force anything on myself, i really do have to be careful & listen to my body everyday, however can't do this when im having to fight for my rights? x

[thew88]

Thanks, pie'n'eal for this thread I have a lot to learn.