The wait for December 21, 2012

[Wind]

What should we do before the December 21st? The day when the timelines will merge. The day when the cosmic Superwave known as Nexus might arrive. Are all of us just going to wait for that magic date when we are supposedly going to ascend? Are we going to continue living our lives doing nothing? Is meditation enough? Virtually anything can happen in a year. The clock is ticking, 337 days left.

What should we do? Because we need to do something!

Please do share your thoughts and suggestions. :)


http://artsonearth.com/www/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/122-doomsday2012.jpg

[joedjemal]

Well, I think awakening or no awakening we'll still have to look after the basics. To quote an old saying "before enlightenment chop wood carry water, after enlightenment chop wood carry water".

I can see the failure of the systems of the elite, this nwo is a pipe dream that goes against fundamental reality. We're going to have to pick up the pieces when they're gone. Get gardening, then at least you'll have the seeds to get your neighbours started next year.

[G.A]

I think we should just live our lives according to our intuitions, beliefs, morals, values, etc. We should support whatever causes we believe in, if we feel so inclined. And as always, we should hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

http://pal2pal.com/BLOGEE/images/uploads/rapture.jpg

[modwiz]

I think we should just live our lives according to our intuitions, beliefs, morals, values, etc. We should support whatever causes we believe in, if we feel so inclined. And as always, we should hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

http://pal2pal.com/BLOGEE/images/uploads/rapture.jpg

I wonder if he had a smoke after? :confused:

[wolf_rt]

Good start StarSeed :-)

I am pretty much at a loss myself, as i imagine many are.
I recently lost my job, and though i could find work as a house painter, which is my main trade, i do not seem to be able to bring myself to do so.
Indeed i seem much more inclined to sit on the computer, smoking cigarettes, posting on Avalon, listening to interviews and researching 'tinfoil woo-woo'.

The only thing I'm really sure about, is that the world will be a VERY different place this time next year.
The idea of the 'converging time lines' fits very neatly into my thoughts on 2012

I think TPTB have basically missed there window for any sort of controlled depopulation.
I do feel there is still a chance that many may die due to 'natural' disasters / starvation caused by collapse / large CME's ect.

so i'm still thinking that some sort of 'prepping' is in order, even if it is only mental.

the big challenge appears to be to raise the level of our consciousness, to avoid a 'rude shock' in December.

I don't agree with the theory that 'nothing will happen' and we will gradually increase our awareness/vibration over the next 50 years or so... just doesn't sit right with me.
So something big will happen in my opinion, and i feel it is likely to be on or around Dec 21st.

I expect to see 'alien Disclosure' in the next few months.
I'm also starting to think TPTB will attempt to keep the world economies ticking along until December (when it wont matter any more). After all they have managed so far, and who would have thought?

I don't think you could go wrong planting some vegetables :-)
Detoxing the body as much as possible.
mulling over spiritual matters.
Finding forgiveness for yourself and others.
Showing love to your friends and family (and strangers, and yourself)... NOT 'showering them with love and light' - that's a crock.
Developing an objective world view, as in the A Call to Look Deeply into Our Collective Perception (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrAgb1-UKQ8) thread and video.


Hmm that's about all i've got at the moment.

[Falcor]

imo being the best me is going to be the best for the collective

so this year im taking my power back that i gave away to the world long ago. im just gonna enjoy and make the best out of every moment while doing my best to remain attached to nothing. no more worrying about money, material things, worrying how things are gonna be tomorrow, etc. sitting here worrying about whats going to happen isnt going to change anything :)

i actually feel more like myself than ever now that im making this change. im quitting my job, getting back into my passions - finally following my heart :)

cheers

[another bob]

Here at the end of the Second Epoch, it's my understanding that a lot of us will be leaving, and a few will be staying on into the next round of earthly illusion. In either case, it will be our choice as souls, whether we stay or go.

One of my favorite Old Masters, Bassui, wrote the following letter to one of his disciples who was about to die, but of course we are all about to die, regardless of whether we survive the coming years or not, and so I offer it now for your consideration, as a way to occupy yourself while waiting:

"The essence of your mind is not born, so it will never die. It is not an existence, which is perishable. It is not an emptiness, which is a mere void. It has neither color nor form. It enjoys no pleasures and suffers no pains. You may not know exactly who is suffering, but question yourself: 'What is the essence of this mind?' Think only of this. You will need no more. Covet nothing. Your end, which is endless, is as a snowflake dissolving in the pure air."


:yo:

[Aryslan]

I shall do as my signature says.

[BestLion]

I think we should just live our lives according to our intuitions, beliefs, morals, values, etc. We should support whatever causes we believe in, if we feel so inclined. And as always, we should hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
One thing to quote 'end of the world..via a phony rapture out of a twisted Bible, then to view what the Mayan calendar says..these are night and day. The Bible is about as accurate as a blind man shooting an arrow. The Mayans were so accurate on the calendar they used the Pleiades as a reference..even today we only use our sun and that is not near as accurate.
2012 should not be taken as a bible thumpin 'end of the world' those nutjobs have really messed up real data and real possibilities. Now people write off anything 'end of the world' as a rapture type stuff. These people had no religion, were making no money on their calendar and yet said 2012 Dec 21 will be an event. Unlike the Christian charlatans who want money.
I was born in 1975, I heard about 12 end of the world predictions..most via Christians..whom I didnt even sweat one drop.And the Y2K bug..which I didnt even think about..This 2012 is the most compelling of all I have witnessed in my life and study.
Thus we can't compare some stupid religion 'prediction' to this. This is an extremely accurate calendar that ends..the day we enter the cosmic center of our galaxy.

[crested-duck]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38876-Seriuos-Critical-Thinking this is how I feel!

[Unified Serenity]

Let's see, we have another end date idea and a whole new age movement that is about as cult like and a religion as any other and we have authors and researchers using each other's shoddy work to back up their own work and creating drama drama drama as to appear just as much charletans and nutjobs as anyone else throwing stones from glass houses! Gee, are they making money off of people's perceived fears trumped up by movies of massive devastation and pseudo science? Are they pumping out their books faster than a long tailed cat tries to run out of a room full of rocking chairs? It sure looks like one huge drama fest to me of either FEAR or ASCENSION! Folks, there has been a long held belief that to ascend you have to die. Now we have this idea of some blessed event that will magically transform our DNA and we will wake up as new enlightened beings.

We have people saying to just focus on positive and we will be the light. You cannot grow into light if you first do not embrace your darkness and find the balance both provide. The Age of Aquarius is nothing more than more New Age, New World Order plans to transform the world into their total control via some promises of the new man and new beliefs we are all one and we will magically walk in love and kindness toward one another. Look at your world RIGHT NOW. Do you perceive nearly 7 billion people on the verge of coming into some magical alignment in a year?

Oh, there will be changes alright. Some of the NWO will be happy to just get rid (kill off) those who won't go along with the new program. There will be upheavel under their plans, massive catastrophes, disasters, wars, and economic ruin and then we will be magically saved at the last minute and sip hot toddies on a beach somewhere for the rest of our lives.

I really think some people are deluding themselves.

[christian]

What I do not do:



overexert myself where my help is not appreciated & wait for others to change something
- participate in the rat race
- being idle waiting for something
- overwork for the good cause, 'forcing' change in others


What I do:



live the kind of lifestyle I see as healthy, harmonious, wholesome, creative and productive
- support alternative projects/communities: farming, building, the whole process of creating and maintaining, coming together learning and teaching
- enjoying life, for beauty is always everywhere
- meditate, balance, harmonize
- generally 'see a need and offer help'
- be flexible when tasks and opportunities present themselves

[BestLion]

Gee, are they making money off of people's perceived fears trumped up by movies of massive devastation and pseudo science? Are they pumping out their books faster than a long tailed cat tries to run out of a room full of rocking chairs?
Id bet 90% of people who think 2012 will be an event..have no spent 1 dime to a 2012 book-video etc..I have not spent 1 cent! If I read a book I got it online or sent to me via email PDF. I also never gave 10% of my income to some cult or doomer. unlike religion demands or cults like Billy Meier who demands 8%.
I think I'm a logical man who can view all sides and make my own conclusions. I dont give a penny to 2012 books etc. And I am hardly in a cult cause I read up on ALL sides of this..and think indeed 2012 will be an event.
As for me personally, I cut down 50% on work..and am enjoying life more. Spending time smelling the flowers, spending time with my 2 daughters. Just enjoying life now. We have this moment to live. Tomorrow indeed may never come..Enjoy the day..And if tomorrow comes..then thanks the creator 'who ever she is" (I feel the creator is feminine BTW due to the cosmos and how it works)
2012..I hope nothing! I really do I have 2 young daughters that I want them to experience life..and I am only 36 myself..but I feel uneasy about it. Esp as we roll into Dec...

[christian]

I recently lost my job, and though i could find work as a house painter, which is my main trade, i do not seem to be able to bring myself to do so.
Indeed i seem much more inclined to sit on the computer, smoking cigarettes, posting on Avalon, listening to interviews and researching 'tinfoil woo-woo'.

Now as you lost your job (same here) you're free to do something else, maybe something more productive. I'm actually thankful, my boss was a psychopath and I found a community in the making, that really needs my help, well actually they found me, but that's not the point.

There are many intentional communities world wide listed on www.workaway.info and on www.helpx.net - You can look at all the hosts for free and the price to register and contact them is reasonable. Another venue is of course www.wwoof.org, but there you register for only one country at a time and its focus is more strongly on the farming aspect.

[Unified Serenity]

The only reason I am concerned about 2012 is because of all the focus the NWO crowd has put on it. They have the ability to turn countries upside down in a heartbeat politically, economically, socially, and environmentally. If they believe now is the time for the massive Chaos portion of the drama of Order out of Chaos then buckle up because apart from astroids and space ie the sun's activity they have a lot of ability to really mess with the world! Much of the new age movement's attitudes and beliefs can be traced right back to new world order backed groups that came into power in the early 1900's.

Their words have been repackaged, glitzed up with nice new book covers and name changes. It's easy enough to prove this as I have on another thread. The new age movement and age of aquarius ideals are nothing more than worldwide ideals offered under tried and failed systems of socialism and communism. They sounded nice, but no country has been able to achieve them due to the cruelty and greed within man's heart. There are always some more equal than others. The really sad thing is I see the same attitudes within all groups no matter their so called alignment to walk in love towards one another. They are intolerant of those who disagree with them, they are vicous in word and sometimes deeds towards those who view things differently, and as far as the new age believers foundational authors whose works have been repackaged, their end game is to just get rid of those who refuse to go along with the "NEW" system. I have not noticed present day Christianity continuing to support killing off of those who disagree with it, though at one time those with intent to use it for power and control certainly also used the killing method to gain control. Maybe that's just part of the plan since the Elites set up Christianity for their next phase and the killing time was needed to get the people in line for the plan to work to it's next stage which we are now seeing come to fruition.

Thus, for the next phase which includes a One world Religion which for them is the Aquarian New Age religion and an equal One World Government to work hand in hand we have the current chaos coming which several major religions and a large part of the New Age Movement both believe must happen. Yes, millions want this calamity. They believe it will bring about their own utopia's but for different reasons. Maybe we do create this reality, and for that reason we are getting on all sides just what we deserve.

[BestLion]

[QUOTE]The only reason I am concerned about 2012 is because of all the focus the NWO crowd has put on it. [QUOTE]
NWO aint pushed 2012 on us..on contrary! They wanted to HIDE it from us. Most who told us of 2012 are alternative types who have investigated the claims. 2012 is not a NWO hoax..but more like a NWO exposes.
NWO if anything are the ones discrediting it! Saying it is a non event..and making videos like Penn and Teller to make fun of it "i posted that video here" While at the same time they are building bunkers in Denver...."nuke bombs I guess they want us to believe..yet the cold war ended 20 years ago+ ..If that was the case then why not redo the old bunkers they destroyed post cold war? Read up on all ..see all sides and you will be shocked that they are not building bunkers for nuke war but survival.

[wolf_rt]

thanks chiquetet, i did give some serious consideration to 'wwoofing' however i do have a partner who i love, who has a mortgage, ect...(though im sure she wouldn't miss my 'contribution' to the household..lol)
I would like to take a more active role in my local community, such as it is... but haven't really found a place to start... (i planted some veggies though :-))

I have worked for and voluanteered for a australian charity 'Lifeline' but i found there contribution to society as a whole to be basically nil...

Getting Local i feel is really important though.

[seantimberwolf]

Let's see, we have another end date idea and a whole new age movement that is about as cult like and a religion as any other and we have authors and researchers using each other's shoddy work to back up their own work and creating drama drama drama as to appear just as much charletans and nutjobs as anyone else throwing stones from glass houses! Gee, are they making money off of people's perceived fears trumped up by movies of massive devastation and pseudo science? Are they pumping out their books faster than a long tailed cat tries to run out of a room full of rocking chairs? It sure looks like one huge drama fest to me of either FEAR or ASCENSION! Folks, there has been a long held belief that to ascend you have to die. Now we have this idea of some blessed event that will magically transform our DNA and we will wake up as new enlightened beings.

We have people saying to just focus on positive and we will be
lO light. You cannot grow into light if you first do not embrace your darkness and find the balance both provide. The Age of Aquarius is nothing more than more New Age, New World Order plans to transform the world into their total control via some promises of the new man and new beliefs we are all one and we will magically walk in love and kindness toward one another. Look at your world RIGHT NOW. Do you perceive nearly 7 billion people on the verge of coming into some magical alignment in a year?

Oh, there will be changes alright. Some of the NWO will be happy to just get rid (kill off) those who won't go along with the new program. There will be upheavel under their plans, massive catastrophes, disasters, wars, and economic ruin and then we will be magically saved at the last minute and sip hot toddies on a beach somewhere for the rest of our lives.

I really think some people are deluding themselves.


It's nice to see a differant veiw for once thank you, I belive the war may begin between us and them fully on this date maybe later, I don't see them going down without a fight.

[joedjemal]

We don't need a mayan calendar to see all the curves are going vertical right now, coincidence? Unlikely, something profound is happening whatever form it takes. A lot of people are aware of it.

If it wasn't for what I see happening in the real world I would dismiss 2012 out of hand.

[meat suit]

how about this:
this planet is a farm, we are being farmed, farming is seasonal, this season ends 21.12.2012
its all change when the season is over.
but nothing is over until its over...

stay alert and be ready for changes

[Unified Serenity]

how about this:
this planet is a farm, we are being farmed, farming is seasonal, this season ends 21.12.2012
its all change when the season is over.
but nothing is over until its over...

stay alert and be ready for changes

You know that's very insightful and is worth exploring. Why has the NWO pushed movies and all this hype about 2012 unless they plan to use the various groups to push this date all while looking like they are against alternative truth movement yet let the truth movement all get in a dither pro or con about 2012. The NWO is backed by those groups and foundations set up to change our world. 2012 discussion is all about CHANGE, we even had the last American Election focus on what? HOPE and CHANGE was the message, but did anything change for the positive in the past three years for us besides more war, more economic destruction, more anger and the further erosion of our rights across many nations! Yet, here we sit navel gazing often about our enlightenment while nothing has changed positively in our world which is evident to the common man.

So, if there is a harvest coming it appears we are set up in our various camps to want it! Are we running off a cliff with our chosen sign hanging above it of enlightenment, ascension, armegeddon to achieve salvation, rapture, etc.. Are we being kept happily busy and in the human sacrifice to come thus playing out a very ancient game of chess? I think there is merit in this line of thought, thanks.

[NeverMind]

what should we do? Because we need to do something!

live.

:)

[meat suit]

how about this:
this planet is a farm, we are being farmed, farming is seasonal, this season ends 21.12.2012
its all change when the season is over.
but nothing is over until its over...

stay alert and be ready for changes

You know that's very insightful and is worth exploring. Why has the NWO pushed movies and all this hype about 2012 unless they plan to use the various groups to push this date all while looking like they are against alternative truth movement yet let the truth movement all get in a dither pro or con about 2012. The NWO is backed by those groups and foundations set up to change our world. 2012 discussion is all about CHANGE, we even had the last American Election focus on what? HOPE and CHANGE was the message, but did anything change for the positive in the past three years for us besides more war, more economic destruction, more anger and the further erosion of our rights across many nations! Yet, here we sit navel gazing often about our enlightenment while nothing has changed positively in our world which is evident to the common man.

So, if there is a harvest coming it appears we are set up in our various camps to want it! Are we running off a cliff with our chosen sign hanging above it of enlightenment, ascension, armegeddon to achieve salvation, rapture, etc.. Are we being kept happily busy and in the human sacrifice to come thus playing out a very ancient game of chess? I think there is merit in this line of thought, thanks.

well, how about it then all changes,,,, say in the farm enviroment the (nwo) pigs bully the (99%) chickens, but when the season is over the pigs go somwhere and the chickens go somewhere else, never to engage in that way again. I cant help thinking that it will be a totally differrent enviroment with different rules.

you could invent an underwater game where 5 divers have to share 3 air supplies, keep it going for long enough and you could have a situation where one diver has taken over 1 air supply and 4 divers have to share the other 2 air supplies. now imagine the divers have forgotten that eventually they will surface again when the game is over.
now a prophecy makes the rounds that the world ends on a specific date , the fearful divers believe that their air supply will get further reduced.........the fearless divers believe that the air will be unlimited in the new world....but because they forgot where they came from in the first place , nobody really knows.....

[christian]

how about this:
this planet is a farm, we are being farmed, farming is seasonal, this season ends 21.12.2012
its all change when the season is over.

Farmers usually cannot tell the exact date for anything for a long time in advance, for they have to adapt to the weather etc.

But your thought is interesting nevertheless, because there are very predictable cosmic movements that do change things in an instant, whether or not this correlates necessarily with anything concerning human life on earth will remain to be seen.

[BestLion]

If it wasn't for what I see happening in the real world I would dismiss 2012 out of hand.
Weill since your god give us such knowledge your forsake? You seem so enlighten on the topic and have many thanks..please tell.....? Your so wise..please tell.............us fools only read so much..

[Laurel]

I don't think you could go wrong planting some vegetables :-)
Detoxing the body as much as possible.
mulling over spiritual matters.
Finding forgiveness for yourself and others.
Showing love to your friends and family (and strangers, and yourself)... NOT 'showering them with love and light' - that's a crock.




- live the kind of lifestyle I see as healthy, harmonious, wholesome, creative and productive
- support alternative projects/communities: farming, building, the whole process of creating and maintaining, coming together learning and teaching
- enjoying life, for beauty is always everywhere
- meditate, balance, harmonize
- generally 'see a need and offer help'
- be flexible when tasks and opportunities present themselves


I completely agree with Wolf and Chiquetet.
No matter what happens, this is the best inspiration to "clean house".

[BestLion]

We don't need a mayan calendar
your such a subject matter expect. Glad I am here to listen to you!..a question where you born yesterday>? We are on the galactic center...Dec 21 2012. Change WILL happen.......

[Falcor]

its ok to agree to disagree :)

[peace]

go outside. do good. do something. don't worry so much about this. nothing will happen. if/when i'm wrong (I'm not) can only be too soon because this is peddlers selling 'magic tonic' that fixes all your physical ailments and cleans your kitchen sink.
go.
do.
something.
else.
with.
the.
energy.

addition: I'd be happy to start selling 2012 insurance to all interesed. if/when everything goes down terribly your cash will come back - until then send me your money, i'll keep you safe :doh:
get it? it's doing that with your energy.

[Unified Serenity]

If it wasn't for what I see happening in the real world I would dismiss 2012 out of hand.
Weill since your god give us such knowledge your forsake? You seem so enlighten on the topic and have many thanks..please tell.....? Your so wise..please tell.............us fools only read so much..

You are more than welcome to read:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38644-How-it-will-fall-together-as-planned

Please do not continue with ad hominem attacks as they are neither insightful nor are they respectful. I am here for sharing of ideas and communicating with others who wish to do so politely.

[joedjemal]

If it wasn't for what I see happening in the real world I would dismiss 2012 out of hand.
Weill since your god give us such knowledge your forsake? You seem so enlighten on the topic and have many thanks..please tell.....? Your so wise..please tell.............us fools only read so much..

You are more than welcome to read:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38644-How-it-will-fall-together-as-planned

Please do not continue with ad hominem attacks as they are neither insightful nor are they respectful. I am here for sharing of ideas and communicating with others who wish to do so politely.

Doesn't bother me Serenity, I've been getting up a few peoples noses recently cos I like to analyse.

Lots of exponential curves going vertical, in population, knowledge and information, money supply, ecosystem destruction, resource use etc etc etc something has to give or a phase change has to happen. And it looks like it happens this year

[Falcor]

You know that's very insightful and is worth exploring. Why has the NWO pushed movies and all this hype about 2012 unless they plan to use the various groups to push this date all while looking like they are against alternative truth movement yet let the truth movement all get in a dither pro or con about 2012. The NWO is backed by those groups and foundations set up to change our world. 2012 discussion is all about CHANGE, we even had the last American Election focus on what? HOPE and CHANGE was the message, but did anything change for the positive in the past three years for us besides more war, more economic destruction, more anger and the further erosion of our rights across many nations! Yet, here we sit navel gazing often about our enlightenment while nothing has changed positively in our world which is evident to the common man.

So, if there is a harvest coming it appears we are set up in our various camps to want it! Are we running off a cliff with our chosen sign hanging above it of enlightenment, ascension, armegeddon to achieve salvation, rapture, etc.. Are we being kept happily busy and in the human sacrifice to come thus playing out a very ancient game of chess? I think there is merit in this line of thought, thanks.

idk for me it all boils down to persepective. what is a curse to one, might be a blessing to another. what you view as nothing positive happening in recent years, i view as necessary.

it isnt always easy to watch the injustice and suffering of the world. but we must accept that it is all a necessary step of growth. our current state of affairs serve as a catalyst for us to wake up to what is important in life. at the end of the day, its not our job to change the world. its our job is to accept life on all levels, for it is all a part of the creator. those of us that see things from this perspective, understand it is more important to master the self (naval gazing enlightenment lol) and to embrace the world as it is, without resisting.

hate yet never dispelled hate, only love can do that. it is best to look upon all conflicts within and outside of yourself with love. 'its always darkest before the dawn' but in time, love conquers all :)

[ghostrider]

What should we do before the December 21st? The day when the timelines will merge. The day when the cosmic Superwave known as Nexus might arrive. Are all of us just going to wait for that magic date when we are supposedly going to ascend? Are we going to continue living our lives doing nothing? Is meditation enough? Virtually anything can happen in a year. The clock is ticking, 337 days left.

What should we do? Because we need to do something!

Please do share your thoughts and suggestions. :)


http://artsonearth.com/www/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/122-doomsday2012.jpg

the wave hits us and our dormant abilities awaken. The ptb become afraid of us and have to retreat underground. they can no longer live among awake minds. we can read their thoughts.

[Sesan]

how about this:
this planet is a farm, we are being farmed, farming is seasonal, this season ends 21.12.2012
its all change when the season is over.
but nothing is over until its over...

stay alert and be ready for changes

You know that's very insightful and is worth exploring. Why has the NWO pushed movies and all this hype about 2012 unless they plan to use the various groups to push this date all while looking like they are against alternative truth movement yet let the truth movement all get in a dither pro or con about 2012. The NWO is backed by those groups and foundations set up to change our world. 2012 discussion is all about CHANGE, we even had the last American Election focus on what? HOPE and CHANGE was the message, but did anything change for the positive in the past three years for us besides more war, more economic destruction, more anger and the further erosion of our rights across many nations! Yet, here we sit navel gazing often about our enlightenment while nothing has changed positively in our world which is evident to the common man.

So, if there is a harvest coming it appears we are set up in our various camps to want it! Are we running off a cliff with our chosen sign hanging above it of enlightenment, ascension, armegeddon to achieve salvation, rapture, etc.. Are we being kept happily busy and in the human sacrifice to come thus playing out a very ancient game of chess? I think there is merit in this line of thought, thanks.

Wellsaid Unified Serenity......well said.

[Unified Serenity]

You know that's very insightful and is worth exploring. Why has the NWO pushed movies and all this hype about 2012 unless they plan to use the various groups to push this date all while looking like they are against alternative truth movement yet let the truth movement all get in a dither pro or con about 2012. The NWO is backed by those groups and foundations set up to change our world. 2012 discussion is all about CHANGE, we even had the last American Election focus on what? HOPE and CHANGE was the message, but did anything change for the positive in the past three years for us besides more war, more economic destruction, more anger and the further erosion of our rights across many nations! Yet, here we sit navel gazing often about our enlightenment while nothing has changed positively in our world which is evident to the common man.

So, if there is a harvest coming it appears we are set up in our various camps to want it! Are we running off a cliff with our chosen sign hanging above it of enlightenment, ascension, armegeddon to achieve salvation, rapture, etc.. Are we being kept happily busy and in the human sacrifice to come thus playing out a very ancient game of chess? I think there is merit in this line of thought, thanks.

idk for me it all boils down to persepective. what is a curse to one, might be a blessing to another. what you view as nothing positive happening in recent years, i view as necessary.

it isnt always easy to watch the injustice and suffering of the world. but we must accept that it is all a necessary step of growth. our current state of affairs serve as a catalyst for us to wake up to what is important in life. at the end of the day, its not our job to change the world. its our job is to accept life on all levels, for it is all a part of the creator. those of us that see things from this perspective, understand it is more important to master the self (naval gazing enlightenment lol) and to embrace the world as it is, without resisting.

hate yet never dispelled hate, only love can do that. it is best to look upon all conflicts within and outside of yourself with love. 'its always darkest before the dawn' but in time, love conquers all :)

Hello Falcor,

Please don't misunderstand me as I have done plenty of navel gazing, but as this thread brought up some questions of what are we going to do or what are we currently doing seemingly outwardly though inward growth is of value, if it (the topics and ideas many including myself love to study here) only keeps us sitting and thinking then are we doing much to benefit the world or just waiting it out?

As for


its our job is to accept life on all levels, for it is all a part of the creator. those of us that see things from this perspective, understand it is more important to master the self (naval gazing enlightenment lol) and to embrace the world as it is, without resisting.



I am not sure what you mean by "accept life on all levels" to mean not to judge what is happening or to not try to do anything to affect our environment which includes the laws of our land and where our leaders are trying to take us. My Country has lost it's Constitution for all intents and purposes. We have the rule of a dictator and politicians who swore oaths to defend it, and yet for over 100 years they have seditiously broken that oath. I live in a Republic that most who live here think is a democracy. We have had our system attacked from within via a 5th column who uses our very system to implement unjust laws and now we have a president who thinks he can just create departments, czars, and use those departments to implement policy which is not voted on by our Congress. All of these things affect each citizen, our economy, quality of life, and our childrens future opportunity to pursue happiness or have liberty. So, I choose not to just accept what I see going on around me.

I see the clever use of changing names of past failed systems in what appear to be successful attempts to implement the changes which an old failed system wanted worldwide. They've spent over 50 years actively undermining a very successful system which built one of the greatest nations this world has ever known. Evil men abused the system of Capitalism and gave room for the changes, and yet when I study those greedy barons of industry I see further evidence of a tactic to move things along to ultimately have the people reject the capitalist system in favor of a NEW system with it's pretty new names, but same goals as the old system based on their own writings which reflect the writings of the founders of Communism. We are marching quickly to this new world order, and once there is enough chaos they have a solution. I dare say that those millions of victims of the past failed system would tell us today not to simply "embrace the world as it is, without resisting". They would scream for us to resist with all of our collective might!

They would warn us and wonder how we do not see the sea of their blood soaking into their fatherlands. They would cry and weep for us who are too blind to see it just as they were, and wonder how in such a short time we have forgotten them.

I've just watched this and find it interesting. It has 8 parts:

mdPmNTJEA6Y

[Falcor]

us - i also live in the united states. granted i am younger then most and have not 'seen' the changes you speak of, i can appreciate and mostly agree with your view points. but i do believe everything is perfect as it is, regardless of my perspective on any given subject

i understand that many have been affected, many are upset and are suffering. but, many are awakening because of their suffering. many are finally questioning their reality as a result of their suffering. many are finally learning to think for themselves and to listen to their heart. many of us are learning the true meaning of detachment through these times.

im a firm believer in the old saying what you resist persists. as long as we put more energy into the suffering and the 'nwo' agenda than into what is important in our lives, we are feeding that which we do not agree with. i think its important that we meet even that which we do not agree with, with love. and even more important for us to be the change we wish to see in the world. want more love in this world? give more love in your daily life. after all, what else can you do? :)

gandhi is a fine example, of how love conquers all :)

[Unified Serenity]

us - i also live in the united states. granted i am younger then most and have not 'seen' the changes you speak of, i can appreciate and mostly agree with your view points. but i do believe everything is perfect as it is, regardless of my perspective on any given subject

i understand that many have been affected, many are upset and are suffering. but, many are awakening because of their suffering. many are finally questioning their reality as a result of their suffering. many are finally learning to think for themselves and to listen to their heart. many of us are learning the true meaning of detachment through these times.

im a firm believer in the old saying what you resist persists. as long as we put more energy into the suffering and the 'nwo' agenda than into what is important in our lives, we are feeding that which we do not agree with. i think its important that we meet even that which we do not agree with, with love. and even more important for us to be the change we wish to see in the world. want more love in this world? give more love in your daily life. after all, what else can you do? :)

gandhi is a fine example, of how love conquers all :)

You make very good points Falcor, and love is the most important aspect in how we live our lives and deal with one another. I am asking you this sincerely, would you respond passively and with simple love if tonight someone came and ruined your car, broke into your house and ruined all you have, stole from you, beat you and if you have children or family there beat them, then went into your bank account and stole all of your money and your families money? Now imagine they did it all legally. Now imagine that you lost your job, your home, and were thrown into jail by this same person.

I want you to really read the above slowly, feel it all, not just go , "yeh yeh, I'd not resist, I'd in fact give them it all, and help them do it because I am love and those are just possessions". I really want you to imagine someone for no apparent reason walking up to you say in a bar or restaurant, slamming your head into a wall and abusing you, oh let's say sexually explicit things you would never consent to. Imagine that, would you just say accept it and love them? After all it's for your own spiritual development.

I guarantee you that the normal reaction to stop someone from abusing you is right. If someone walks up to someone and shoves them or takes a swing at them they duck or try to stop it. If someone just comes up to a person and starts beating the crap out of them they put their hands up at least to resist the beating if they can. Most would try to block the attack and might even hit them back, but not all would do that. They would instinctively try to protect themselves. How is that being less evolved? My examples are extreme, but if you look at what is being done systematically to our country, to other countries via those who control our military and also financial markets around the world, it is just that extreme.

People have worked their whole lives and have been robbed blind these last few years by those in power. Our liberties are gone, our freedom is gone, and we are headed for a solution they have crafted for a very long time. Certainly people turn inwardly for spiritual guidance during dire times. There are no athiests in foxholes when the bombs are coming towards them and bullets are flying around them. It is normal, but who is causing this negative activity? Is it truly necessary to have this happen for us to grow spiritually? If we ever get past this and do evolve then this behavior will stop? If that is so, then how will the coming generations learn to grow spiritually if we had to have the negative environment to cause us to grow? If there is an answer to that question of proper environment of love lived daily by all, then why can't that happen now, and why isn't it with the millions who are enlightened?

Honestly, I do believe we are on a divine plan, and this does all have to happen for us to truly grow to truly understand love, mercy, and responsibility as one being with the creator to continue on Her divine plan. (If you don't know much about me, I believe God is not really a male or female, but I like throwing in "HER" occaisionally just because if feels better than always seeing HIM, and I don't like "It" or "Source" because I do know God/dess and we are very much loved by God/dess). Sorry for the explanation there, I just didn't want you scratching your head about how I think regarding God or Goddess. So, it's all meant to happen, but I do not believe those doing the negative things to our world do so without being opposed, but for us to know the truth of why the things are happening and for those who can wake up to truly know why they follow what they follow and not just do so cause they liked some feel good message. I do think many in the alternative truth movement are just trying to cash in and don't really understand that the very things they say they hate could be the ultimate goal of the one's who set things into motion thousands of years ago.

[Operator]

..the day we enter the cosmic center of our galaxy.

Can you please explain what you mean ?

1. What is a cosmic center ?
2. Where did you get this idea from ?

[joedjemal]

us - i also live in the united states. granted i am younger then most and have not 'seen' the changes you speak of, i can appreciate and mostly agree with your view points. but i do believe everything is perfect as it is, regardless of my perspective on any given subject

i understand that many have been affected, many are upset and are suffering. but, many are awakening because of their suffering. many are finally questioning their reality as a result of their suffering. many are finally learning to think for themselves and to listen to their heart. many of us are learning the true meaning of detachment through these times.

im a firm believer in the old saying what you resist persists. as long as we put more energy into the suffering and the 'nwo' agenda than into what is important in our lives, we are feeding that which we do not agree with. i think its important that we meet even that which we do not agree with, with love. and even more important for us to be the change we wish to see in the world. want more love in this world? give more love in your daily life. after all, what else can you do? :)

gandhi is a fine example, of how love conquers all :)

You make very good points Falcor, and love is the most important aspect in how we live our lives and deal with one another. I am asking you this sincerely, would you respond passively and with simple love if tonight someone came and ruined your car, broke into your house and ruined all you have, stole from you, beat you and if you have children or family there beat them, then went into your bank account and stole all of your money and your families money? Now imagine they did it all legally. Now imagine that you lost your job, your home, and were thrown into jail by this same person.

I want you to really read the above slowly, feel it all, not just go , "yeh yeh, I'd not resist, I'd in fact give them it all, and help them do it because I am love and those are just possessions". I really want you to imagine someone for no apparent reason walking up to you say in a bar or restaurant, slamming your head into a wall and abusing you, oh let's say sexually explicit things you would never consent to. Imagine that, would you just say accept it and love them? After all it's for your own spiritual development.

I guarantee you that the normal reaction to stop someone from abusing you is right. If someone walks up to someone and shoves them or takes a swing at them they duck or try to stop it. If someone just comes up to a person and starts beating the crap out of them they put their hands up at least to resist the beating if they can. Most would try to block the attack and might even hit them back, but not all would do that. They would instinctively try to protect themselves. How is that being less evolved? My examples are extreme, but if you look at what is being done systematically to our country, to other countries via those who control our military and also financial markets around the world, it is just that extreme.

People have worked their whole lives and have been robbed blind these last few years by those in power. Our liberties are gone, our freedom is gone, and we are headed for a solution they have crafted for a very long time. Certainly people turn inwardly for spiritual guidance during dire times. There are no athiests in foxholes when the bombs are coming towards them and bullets are flying around them. It is normal, but who is causing this negative activity? Is it truly necessary to have this happen for us to grow spiritually? If we ever get past this and do evolve then this behavior will stop? If that is so, then how will the coming generations learn to grow spiritually if we had to have the negative environment to cause us to grow? If there is an answer to that question of proper environment of love lived daily by all, then why can't that happen now, and why isn't it with the millions who are enlightened?

Honestly, I do believe we are on a divine plan, and this does all have to happen for us to truly grow to truly understand love, mercy, and responsibility as one being with the creator to continue on Her divine plan. (If you don't know much about me, I believe God is not really a male or female, but I like throwing in "HER" occaisionally just because if feels better than always seeing HIM, and I don't like "It" or "Source" because I do know God/dess and we are very much loved by God/dess). Sorry for the explanation there, I just didn't want you scratching your head about how I think regarding God or Goddess. So, it's all meant to happen, but I do not believe those doing the negative things to our world do so without being opposed, but for us to know the truth of why the things are happening and for those who can wake up to truly know why they follow what they follow and not just do so cause they liked some feel good message. I do think many in the alternative truth movement are just trying to cash in and don't really understand that the very things they say they hate could be the ultimate goal of the one's who set things into motion thousands of years ago.


When I find myself facing an opponent who wants to harm me and mine (and I do my utmost to avoid being in that situation at all, but sometimes there's a lesson to be learned and no avoiding possible ) I study them and find their weaknesses whilst seeming passive and calm then (never with violence) I stomp on them as hard as I possibly can while trying to make sure it's impossible to hit back. I use words. Only had to do it two or three times, I cause no physical harm but they never bother me again.

If you find yourself in a situation where you must defend yourself the first blow, in whatever form it takes, must be surprising and utterly devastating or you will likely lose. But you must wait until the weakness is completely obvious.

Passive surrender means you'll get eaten alive.

The best defense in my experience is to go with the flow of the universe, if you're in kairos you'll be safe.

[merkabagirll]

SPREAD THE LOVE ... DIG DEEP ... OPEN THE HEARTLIGHT! :love:

[Unified Serenity]

us - i also live in the united states. granted i am younger then most and have not 'seen' the changes you speak of, i can appreciate and mostly agree with your view points. but i do believe everything is perfect as it is, regardless of my perspective on any given subject

i understand that many have been affected, many are upset and are suffering. but, many are awakening because of their suffering. many are finally questioning their reality as a result of their suffering. many are finally learning to think for themselves and to listen to their heart. many of us are learning the true meaning of detachment through these times.

im a firm believer in the old saying what you resist persists. as long as we put more energy into the suffering and the 'nwo' agenda than into what is important in our lives, we are feeding that which we do not agree with. i think its important that we meet even that which we do not agree with, with love. and even more important for us to be the change we wish to see in the world. want more love in this world? give more love in your daily life. after all, what else can you do? :)

gandhi is a fine example, of how love conquers all :)

You make very good points Falcor, and love is the most important aspect in how we live our lives and deal with one another. I am asking you this sincerely, would you respond passively and with simple love if tonight someone came and ruined your car, broke into your house and ruined all you have, stole from you, beat you and if you have children or family there beat them, then went into your bank account and stole all of your money and your families money? Now imagine they did it all legally. Now imagine that you lost your job, your home, and were thrown into jail by this same person.

I want you to really read the above slowly, feel it all, not just go , "yeh yeh, I'd not resist, I'd in fact give them it all, and help them do it because I am love and those are just possessions". I really want you to imagine someone for no apparent reason walking up to you say in a bar or restaurant, slamming your head into a wall and abusing you, oh let's say sexually explicit things you would never consent to. Imagine that, would you just say accept it and love them? After all it's for your own spiritual development.

I guarantee you that the normal reaction to stop someone from abusing you is right. If someone walks up to someone and shoves them or takes a swing at them they duck or try to stop it. If someone just comes up to a person and starts beating the crap out of them they put their hands up at least to resist the beating if they can. Most would try to block the attack and might even hit them back, but not all would do that. They would instinctively try to protect themselves. How is that being less evolved? My examples are extreme, but if you look at what is being done systematically to our country, to other countries via those who control our military and also financial markets around the world, it is just that extreme.

People have worked their whole lives and have been robbed blind these last few years by those in power. Our liberties are gone, our freedom is gone, and we are headed for a solution they have crafted for a very long time. Certainly people turn inwardly for spiritual guidance during dire times. There are no athiests in foxholes when the bombs are coming towards them and bullets are flying around them. It is normal, but who is causing this negative activity? Is it truly necessary to have this happen for us to grow spiritually? If we ever get past this and do evolve then this behavior will stop? If that is so, then how will the coming generations learn to grow spiritually if we had to have the negative environment to cause us to grow? If there is an answer to that question of proper environment of love lived daily by all, then why can't that happen now, and why isn't it with the millions who are enlightened?

Honestly, I do believe we are on a divine plan, and this does all have to happen for us to truly grow to truly understand love, mercy, and responsibility as one being with the creator to continue on Her divine plan. (If you don't know much about me, I believe God is not really a male or female, but I like throwing in "HER" occaisionally just because if feels better than always seeing HIM, and I don't like "It" or "Source" because I do know God/dess and we are very much loved by God/dess). Sorry for the explanation there, I just didn't want you scratching your head about how I think regarding God or Goddess. So, it's all meant to happen, but I do not believe those doing the negative things to our world do so without being opposed, but for us to know the truth of why the things are happening and for those who can wake up to truly know why they follow what they follow and not just do so cause they liked some feel good message. I do think many in the alternative truth movement are just trying to cash in and don't really understand that the very things they say they hate could be the ultimate goal of the one's who set things into motion thousands of years ago.


When I find myself facing an opponent who wants to harm me and mine (and I do my utmost to avoid being in that situation at all, but sometimes there's a lesson to be learned and no avoiding possible ) I study them and find their weaknesses whilst seeming passive and calm then (never with violence) I stomp on them as hard as I possibly can while trying to make sure it's impossible to hit back. I use words. Only had to do it two or three times, I cause no physical harm but they never bother me again.

If you find yourself in a situation where you must defend yourself the first blow, in whatever form it takes, must be surprising and utterly devastating or you will likely lose. But you must wait until the weakness is completely obvious.

Passive surrender means you'll get eaten alive.

The best defense in my experience is to go with the flow of the universe, if you're in kairos you'll be safe.

Well, if you read deeper into what I was saying, the truth of the matter is you have had all this happen to you metaphorically by these elites. Many Americans lost all their savings, many have lost their home and jobs through shady dealings via the banking system and destroying on purpose the housing market and stock market. Many have lost their jobs. Many families have been destroyed and marriages ruined. Some have committed suicide and their children and spouses are crying themselves to sleep right now. Many have turned to drugs and higher consciousness to make sense of it all only to wake up again with broken families and no jobs. My point is, the elites have done all this and more from afar through their agents all with their own fan clubs, drama, roles, and feeling so right, and even speaking against the elites while not realizing they are marching off that cliff under their favorite banner believing they are on the right path.

Those who love you do not lead you off a cliff, they do not destroy your life, and they do not destroy your society. It is all about greed, control, and finding a way to get rid of those who will never go along while at the same time never having themselves tied to these things. They set up the fights, they sit back and laugh, and they plan for the next stage. The road to hell is paved with the best of intentions to the unaware. To those aware it is just evil.

[Falcor]

You make very good points Falcor, and love is the most important aspect in how we live our lives and deal with one another. I am asking you this sincerely, would you respond passively and with simple love if tonight someone came and ruined your car, broke into your house and ruined all you have, stole from you, beat you and if you have children or family there beat them, then went into your bank account and stole all of your money and your families money? Now imagine they did it all legally. Now imagine that you lost your job, your home, and were thrown into jail by this same person.

I want you to really read the above slowly, feel it all, not just go , "yeh yeh, I'd not resist, I'd in fact give them it all, and help them do it because I am love and those are just possessions". I really want you to imagine someone for no apparent reason walking up to you say in a bar or restaurant, slamming your head into a wall and abusing you, oh let's say sexually explicit things you would never consent to. Imagine that, would you just say accept it and love them? After all it's for your own spiritual development.

I guarantee you that the normal reaction to stop someone from abusing you is right. If someone walks up to someone and shoves them or takes a swing at them they duck or try to stop it. If someone just comes up to a person and starts beating the crap out of them they put their hands up at least to resist the beating if they can. Most would try to block the attack and might even hit them back, but not all would do that. They would instinctively try to protect themselves. How is that being less evolved? My examples are extreme, but if you look at what is being done systematically to our country, to other countries via those who control our military and also financial markets around the world, it is just that extreme.

People have worked their whole lives and have been robbed blind these last few years by those in power. Our liberties are gone, our freedom is gone, and we are headed for a solution they have crafted for a very long time. Certainly people turn inwardly for spiritual guidance during dire times. There are no athiests in foxholes when the bombs are coming towards them and bullets are flying around them. It is normal, but who is causing this negative activity? Is it truly necessary to have this happen for us to grow spiritually? If we ever get past this and do evolve then this behavior will stop? If that is so, then how will the coming generations learn to grow spiritually if we had to have the negative environment to cause us to grow? If there is an answer to that question of proper environment of love lived daily by all, then why can't that happen now, and why isn't it with the millions who are enlightened?

Honestly, I do believe we are on a divine plan, and this does all have to happen for us to truly grow to truly understand love, mercy, and responsibility as one being with the creator to continue on Her divine plan. (If you don't know much about me, I believe God is not really a male or female, but I like throwing in "HER" occaisionally just because if feels better than always seeing HIM, and I don't like "It" or "Source" because I do know God/dess and we are very much loved by God/dess). Sorry for the explanation there, I just didn't want you scratching your head about how I think regarding God or Goddess. So, it's all meant to happen, but I do not believe those doing the negative things to our world do so without being opposed, but for us to know the truth of why the things are happening and for those who can wake up to truly know why they follow what they follow and not just do so cause they liked some feel good message. I do think many in the alternative truth movement are just trying to cash in and don't really understand that the very things they say they hate could be the ultimate goal of the one's who set things into motion thousands of years ago.

i appreciate the picture you are trying to paint....and i feel like i understand where youre coming from. but i honestly would not like to go there.

playing out those kind of scenarios in my head really doesnt serve me. when i find myself in that place, i realize that in the moment i am not choosing love and i am choosing fear. it can sound crazy or cultish and ill be the first to admit it lol...... but thats the way ive read it, and still the best way i can describe it. for me i feel like my insanity is worrying about things i have no control over. at some point we have to laugh at ourselves, as we can all tend to stress out our whole lives over things that might not ever affect us directly. we can let our egos stress us out and control our lives over things that we let falsely represent who we really are..... especially when it comes to material things and possessions.

the 'alternative truth movement' are often truth seekers like most of us here. a lot of us can fall into the conspiracy trap....and yes, some might be cashing in on us. absolutely. but some might just be pursuing what they find to be true. and you cant blame someone for living their truth, then we'd all be hypocrites lol........but really its on us what we interpret as subjective truth, and id hope we can agree your heart will lead you to the right answer before your brain will. unfortunately most like myself, let thinking get in the way of our lives best navigation system, the heart. we cant lie to ourselves, atleast, not for long :)

when we spend so much time worrying about it all, we miss the treasures of life, and deep down. we all know what that treasure is, we like to deny it or might misunderstand it. people have been writing about it for thousands of years, people have been singing about it for the last hundred years. if you were to ask a stranger on the street if they felt like love is the greatest treasure in life, how many do you think would say no?? :)

im always doing my best to understand what love is, and what love is not . im definitely not perfect, but i try my best to share it and let it flow through me. when you radiate love and share it with those around you, you are changing peoples lives on a local level, on a real level, now that is something special, something you can take with you when you leave. i really do believe that by touching one life you touch them all. the present moment always has love in it. it is our job to realize what it is as a collective, and i believe it is very possible to make real change happen in our world. it all starts with us as individuals, doesnt it? :)

"To understand the nature of God, it is necessary only to know the nature of love itself. To truly know love is to know and understand God; and to know God is to understand love."

btw. i dont believe millions are currently 'enlightened' alteast, not yet :)

[inzer0]

As for right now at this time, I think it's important to realize that the awakening is already well underway. The ascension has already started and is picking up pace. As for what we should do, why not grab your surfboard and ride the wave, that is certainly better then letting the wave knock you over, toss and turn and maybe even drown you... There is no need to wait for supposed dates and times when its already happening. Why push it back and assume that its not already here just because something may predict something coming. The climax of events will come when it comes, but the buildup is just as important of an adventure..
Also, do we really need prophecy to tell us that things are a mess and need to be changed? Look around and it is obvious that geopolitically and socially things are a mess, and they are a mess regardless of an end of the world prediction. however i am sure that self-fulfilling prophecy isn't helping much..
So what about this moment? i'd say continue trying to learn and grow. continue to enhance your spiritual self. continue to clean out your accumulated karmic baggage and shed the weight off your soul. and most of all continue on the quest to be a better person. If anything, that's what we should be doing anyways regardless, and if things do happen to go sour, then what better way to protect yourselves then to be spiritually clean..
on a side note though, didn't the mayans say that we would be entering the "time of no time"? perhaps that has something to do with the supposed convergence of timelines and the reason why it's apparently very difficult to see past that time. I don't claim to know what "time of no time" actually means in any scientific sense but it is interesting nonetheless.. But, with any of these types of predictions anyway, they may serve as a guide but there's no way to understand them in full unless looking back on it in retrospect. So, just carry on.. When dec 21st hits i'll probably be smoking a joint and giving admiration to the sun and cosmos, just like any other day :)

[Unified Serenity]

Falcor,

I appreciate your desire to focus as you do. I think it needs be said for me anyway that understanding the house of cards so to speak does not upset my life. On the contrary, I am more peaceful now than I ever have been for as I gain more understanding of where things began, how they have moved forward and where they are going, I feel more freedom, love and security.

For me it is not doom and gloom to know who the various players are and how they interconnect knowingly or unknowingly. One of the earliest books that I read that showed me how interconnected so much was, was a book called, "The Shadows of Power" by Perloff. That as well as my prior esoteric and religious / mystical studies combined to show a deep and rich world of secrets and the prize at the end of the long road.

We shall each run our race, we shall each deal with our life choices and there is much to be said for a simple life focused on family, clean living, social consciousness and helping our fellow man. Love in action as I call it is really beautiful. I also believe it should be understood as a great professor once instructed the sociology class I was taking on "Sex and Marriage" that just because someone raises and issue does not mean it's a personal issue for them. That being said, none of us knows the members hearts here just based on their writings. So, as I am currently highly focused on completing a work I have been pushed to finish, my eye is narrow at this time, my pursuits are fairly narrow, but my early foundation has not changed who I am nor how I interact daily with those in my life and the actions I make. I believe all actions should come from a place of love and kindness. I cannot profess to always succeed; however, I do believe following one's heart mission is what counts.

Thanks for playing along with me in this musing. I do enjoy a good conversation.

Much Love,

Serenity

[lelmaleh]

It's difficult to sit here and feel that I can't do much in the bigger world to change/heal the incredible atrocities perpetuated on this planet. I do believe that the greedy, psychopathic thinking arises from severe sexual/physical abuse experienced in childhood that is all pervasive in the nwo thinking. Trying to have control over everything when you had control over nothing as a child. I think that we would all rise up if it wasn't for the mass violence and weaponry possessed by these psychopaths. When watching the films in Egypt it appeared that they were desperate enough to rise up anyway and not fear death, like they had nothing to lose as quality of life was so poor. Maybe that's what we need, to be fearless in the face of death to do what is necessary and right. I'm not saying that I'm there but I feel like we have to be ready to face what's coming and not become so full of hate/anger that we are poisoned and absorb that hate of the psychopathic oppressors. Many Buddhist teachings talk about vanquishing obstacles, using the power of anger (I'm not sure I'm explaining this correctly) without succumbing to it-the wrathful deities. I feel like we need to take on that stance if provoked. I think to stay strong and clear about who you are is very powerful in the face of all the sick thinking. If you continue to love yourself when the psychopaths are full of self hate is maybe all we have against such destructive forces.

[jaybee]

SPREAD THE LOVE ... DIG DEEP ... OPEN THE HEARTLIGHT! :love:

thanks.....

and to the OP....no need to wait.

feel the connection with each other and all life on earth. Let the kundalini energy flow. Go with the flow.

Enjoy the quantum entanglement....:p... stay positive. (even though there may be blips of negativity here and there)

[Anchor]

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DON'T WAIT...

Why wait for a date?

Be here now!

[skamandar]

I think there is fast evolution of the humankind going on here (the body to be more precise). It is not exactly a quantum leap, but it’s happening fast enough. It is also obvious enough for pretty much every individual that there is a change unseen until now happening..
It plays out differently for each individual.
What has happened to me personally – I get some blissful feelings sometimes. I don’t give a s..t about any gurus, meditations, astral projections, mantra repeating, angels, daemons, illuminati, HAARP etc…
I drink a lot of alcohol, smoke a lot of cigarettes and eat only junk food..
I am the last person on this planet to be given LOVE and LIGHT words, as description to my personality. Kind is the last thing that I am to people.
And still – this bliss tends to come more and more often. Just like that – out of nowhere. Sometimes I am afraid I am going to get heart attack. Being extremely blissful doesn’t stop me from being the total bitch I usually am… so my personality is not affected. Just the way I feel in my body. It doesn’t make me more knowledgeable on any subject. I just tend to feel GOOD all the time. Sometimes I feel GREAT. And sometimes I feel JGGGFDFghd – and I can only hope that on 21.12.2012 this will remain my permanent way of feeling… without dying. Hope my body will learn until then not to get almost heart attacks and be fine ;)

[jaybee]

I think there is fast evolution of the humankind going on here (the body to be more precise). It is not exactly a quantum leap, but it’s happening fast enough. It is also obvious enough for pretty much every individual that there is a change unseen until now happening..
It plays out differently for each individual.
What has happened to me personally – I get some blissful feelings sometimes. I don’t give a s..t about any gurus, meditations, astral projections, mantra repeating, angels, daemons, illuminati, HAARP etc…
I drink a lot of alcohol, smoke a lot of cigarettes and eat only junk food..
I am the last person on this planet to be given LOVE and LIGHT words, as description to my personality. Kind is the last thing that I am to people.
And still – this bliss tends to come more and more often. Just like that – out of nowhere. Sometimes I am afraid I am going to get heart attack. Being extremely blissful doesn’t stop me from being the total bitch I usually am… so my personality is not affected. Just the way I feel in my body. It doesn’t make me more knowledgeable on any subject. I just tend to feel GOOD all the time. Sometimes I feel GREAT. And sometimes I feel JGGGFDFghd – and I can only hope that on 21.12.2012 this will remain my permanent way of feeling… without dying. Hope my body will learn until then not to get almost heart attacks and be fine ;)


loved your post!

I, myself do not lead a very healthy lifestyle and am not an 'obvious' spiritual person.

But out of the blue, I had a spontaenous kundalini rising experience a few years back

I am getting 'blissed out' more frequently at the moment....in very ordinary situations, like in the local shopping centre for example.

I feel I am getting good vibes from people I meet and/or pass by.

I wonder if they are responding to my 'bliss'.....


:thumb:

[Camilo]

I wouldn't be so fixed on a specific date, just enjoy the ride and be prepared for new and different, what ever that may mean.

[andrewgreen]

As much as D Wilcox speaks a lot of rubbish one of his statements about the secrets of Tibetan Buddhists is very relevant here. That no only is not fearing being extremely important but so is not hoping/

[Wind]

Have you seen this video?

NvoRat-Tl_Q
Because I honestly think that all of humanity should have seen it.

[Black Panther]

I think there is fast evolution of the humankind going on here (the body to be more precise). It is not exactly a quantum leap, but it’s happening fast enough. It is also obvious enough for pretty much every individual that there is a change unseen until now happening..
It plays out differently for each individual.
What has happened to me personally – I get some blissful feelings sometimes. I don’t give a s..t about any gurus, meditations, astral projections, mantra repeating, angels, daemons, illuminati, HAARP etc…
I drink a lot of alcohol, smoke a lot of cigarettes and eat only junk food..
I am the last person on this planet to be given LOVE and LIGHT words, as description to my personality. Kind is the last thing that I am to people.
And still – this bliss tends to come more and more often. Just like that – out of nowhere. Sometimes I am afraid I am going to get heart attack. Being extremely blissful doesn’t stop me from being the total bitch I usually am… so my personality is not affected. Just the way I feel in my body. It doesn’t make me more knowledgeable on any subject. I just tend to feel GOOD all the time. Sometimes I feel GREAT. And sometimes I feel JGGGFDFghd – and I can only hope that on 21.12.2012 this will remain my permanent way of feeling… without dying. Hope my body will learn until then not to get almost heart attacks and be fine ;)


loved your post!

I, myself do not lead a very healthy lifestyle and am not an 'obvious' spiritual person.

But out of the blue, I had a spontaenous kundalini rising experience a few years back

I am getting 'blissed out' more frequently at the moment....in very ordinary situations, like in the local shopping centre for example.

I feel I am getting good vibes from people I meet and/or pass by.

I wonder if they are responding to my 'bliss'.....


:thumb:

The truth vibrations coming in for a long time and now we are right in the middle of it.
It´s not a believe. It´s really happening. Inside us and in the world (if there is a difference...)
Nobody can stop this. Not the madmen nor our ego's can stop this. So it isn't really important
what we do as long as the intention is there to do good. As the truth vibrations come in the
more connection we will have with our higher/ real selves. Every indivual experience this in one
way or another. The only difference is that a lot of people try to look at explanations in the
in their little left brain world and as awake and aware people know 2012 isn't just a crazy
prediction.

[Meesh]

There is nothing to "wait" for if you stay present.

[skamandar]

I think there is fast evolution of the humankind going on here (the body to be more precise). It is not exactly a quantum leap, but it’s happening fast enough. It is also obvious enough for pretty much every individual that there is a change unseen until now happening..
It plays out differently for each individual.
What has happened to me personally – I get some blissful feelings sometimes. I don’t give a s..t about any gurus, meditations, astral projections, mantra repeating, angels, daemons, illuminati, HAARP etc…
I drink a lot of alcohol, smoke a lot of cigarettes and eat only junk food..
I am the last person on this planet to be given LOVE and LIGHT words, as description to my personality. Kind is the last thing that I am to people.
And still – this bliss tends to come more and more often. Just like that – out of nowhere. Sometimes I am afraid I am going to get heart attack. Being extremely blissful doesn’t stop me from being the total bitch I usually am… so my personality is not affected. Just the way I feel in my body. It doesn’t make me more knowledgeable on any subject. I just tend to feel GOOD all the time. Sometimes I feel GREAT. And sometimes I feel JGGGFDFghd – and I can only hope that on 21.12.2012 this will remain my permanent way of feeling… without dying. Hope my body will learn until then not to get almost heart attacks and be fine ;)


loved your post!

I, myself do not lead a very healthy lifestyle and am not an 'obvious' spiritual person.

But out of the blue, I had a spontaenous kundalini rising experience a few years back

I am getting 'blissed out' more frequently at the moment....in very ordinary situations, like in the local shopping centre for example.

I feel I am getting good vibes from people I meet and/or pass by.

I wonder if they are responding to my 'bliss'.....


:thumb:

Of course they are responding to your bliss!!

I've done more than 100 test up until now regarding "bliss response". I definitely recommend you to do so also.

It's a vast area of learning. It will take me too long to describe it in details, it boils up to the following:

If for example you are in a situation where everybody is nervous, unhappy and tensed and you release a bliss - the situation plays out in a very unexpected way, which at the end leaves everybody completely happy and satisfied with the outcome.

I only had 2 cases which made 1 of about 10-15 people involved just leave completely unhappy, sort of running away...
The people running away I tend to call "the rotting apple". And it makes me sick to the bones to now realize, that really there are some people.. who are beyond damaged in a way. They tend to be happy only if everybody else are miserable

[Maia Gabrial]

:pizza:TPTW want us to believe such things as they'll be in power forever. HA! Not true. NWO is crap...
They might even want us to believe we're nothing more than stupid cattle. Not true. Please don't buy into this nonsense...
Just remember that we are a very much maligned race of beings, who have been lied to about everything including our own history. Also, we have been poisoned in many ways....
Not for a second do I believe or accept that we are less than divine beings equal to everyone in the cosmos.
TPTW want everyone to fear and doubt themselves because that is the ONLY strength they have. Take that away and they have NOTHING....

[Unified Serenity]

:pizza:TPTW want us to believe such things as they'll be in power forever. HA! Not true. NWO is crap...
They might even want us to believe we're nothing more than stupid cattle. Not true. Please don't buy into this nonsense...
Just remember that we are a very much maligned race of beings, who have been lied to about everything including our own history. Also, we have been poisoned in many ways....
Not for a second do I believe or accept that we are less than divine beings equal to everyone in the cosmos.
TPTW want everyone to fear and doubt themselves because that is the ONLY strength they have. Take that away and they have NOTHING....

So very true, each and every word. Knowing them should not ever equate to believing them. Each person, including them oddly, is of the Divine and a most powerful and beautiful being, Goddess does not create junk. It's a matter of focus though once here and we individually and stay unaware, unfocused, over focuses, over manipulative, tricked, deceived, and continue our journeys. One day we will each and everyone of us know the truth and it will be free, it will be complete, and we will understand clearly. Few have gotten there.

[jaybee]

I think there is fast evolution of the humankind going on here (the body to be more precise). It is not exactly a quantum leap, but it’s happening fast enough. It is also obvious enough for pretty much every individual that there is a change unseen until now happening..
It plays out differently for each individual.
What has happened to me personally – I get some blissful feelings sometimes. I don’t give a s..t about any gurus, meditations, astral projections, mantra repeating, angels, daemons, illuminati, HAARP etc…
I drink a lot of alcohol, smoke a lot of cigarettes and eat only junk food..
I am the last person on this planet to be given LOVE and LIGHT words, as description to my personality. Kind is the last thing that I am to people.
And still – this bliss tends to come more and more often. Just like that – out of nowhere. Sometimes I am afraid I am going to get heart attack. Being extremely blissful doesn’t stop me from being the total bitch I usually am… so my personality is not affected. Just the way I feel in my body. It doesn’t make me more knowledgeable on any subject. I just tend to feel GOOD all the time. Sometimes I feel GREAT. And sometimes I feel JGGGFDFghd – and I can only hope that on 21.12.2012 this will remain my permanent way of feeling… without dying. Hope my body will learn until then not to get almost heart attacks and be fine ;)


loved your post!

I, myself do not lead a very healthy lifestyle and am not an 'obvious' spiritual person.

But out of the blue, I had a spontaenous kundalini rising experience a few years back

I am getting 'blissed out' more frequently at the moment....in very ordinary situations, like in the local shopping centre for example.

I feel I am getting good vibes from people I meet and/or pass by.

I wonder if they are responding to my 'bliss'.....


:thumb:

Of course they are responding to your bliss!!

I've done more than 100 test up until now regarding "bliss response". I definitely recommend you to do so also.

excellent!


It's a vast area of learning. It will take me too long to describe it in details, it boils up to the following:

If for example you are in a situation where everybody is nervous, unhappy and tensed and you release a bliss - the situation plays out in a very unexpected way, which at the end leaves everybody completely happy and satisfied with the outcome.

release a bliss.....I love that.......:nod:

like spinal/pineal aerobics. Build up the bliss. Release the bliss. Build up the bliss. Release the bliss.....:)



I only had 2 cases which made 1 of about 10-15 people involved just leave completely unhappy, sort of running away...
The people running away I tend to call "the rotting apple". And it makes me sick to the bones to now realize, that really there are some people.. who are beyond damaged in a way. They tend to be happy only if everybody else are miserable

'the rotting apple'......lol

yes misery does seem to be addictive for some.....like craving the thing that is bad for you. Like with allergies.

[jaybee]

The truth vibrations coming in for a long time and now we are right in the middle of it.
It´s not a believe. It´s really happening. Inside us and in the world (if there is a difference...)
Nobody can stop this. Not the madmen nor our ego's can stop this. So it isn't really important
what we do as long as the intention is there to do good. As the truth vibrations come in the
more connection we will have with our higher/ real selves. Every indivual experience this in one
way or another. The only difference is that a lot of people try to look at explanations in the
in their little left brain world and as awake and aware people know 2012 isn't just a crazy
prediction.


cheers and very well said, Black Panther.


I'm looking forward to this year......:nod:

[Maia Gabrial]

I'm looking forward to December 21st even more than ever!

[Nedsiz]

I can't hardly wait for it. I want it to be here now...... :p

[RunningDeer]

I’m not waiting for December 21, 2012. I’ve stop questioning are we there yet? For me, it’s counterproductive.

We are empowered humans. We are here to step into an new era of consciousness. Where I believe there are 'pockets of heaven' thriving - now. You don’t have to travel far. You just have to go within to find your map. With a little trust, the rest unfolds in it’s own time and in it’s own way. We all bring our unique palette with which to create this tapestry. Why wait? I say Now.

[Doctor]

I am going to live my life as if nothing will happen. This doesn't mean I want nothing to happen, but if I focus my energy on preparation, then I won't be living in the moment. I've always lived looking forward without appreciating the present. In today's messed up world, I think it's important for all of us to ask ourselves how we can improve our way of living. It's a great idea to be prepared, but don't let it consume you. I, for one, would love to see some changes made for the greater good of Earth's people. Any sort of disclosure would be fantastic. If we keep an open heart, then we can more easily accept the changes, if they were to happen.

On a side note, I'm in southern California right now and literally everything in my power is urging me to leave. I feel as though I must get out of Los Angeles as quickly as possible. I have no idea why.

[Timreh]

As we would expect.. very challenging times, I am definitely finding them very challenging.

I am guessing the changes and transition needed to take place will be ongoing rolling over well beyond Dec 21 this year, I mean we may be talking about changing or replacing governments, economy, societal structure, transport and infrastructure, ways of better managing the planet and getting many of the general public to come to terms with what is happening.. It is difficult for me to see this happening overnight?

In saying this I have learnt to open my mind to all possibilities in life so I am just “going with the flow”.
Avalon is a special part of my life, I do have an interest in all that is happening and I enjoy contributing but I am always mindful not to get too carried away hence I am not subscribing to any fear, trying to allow everything to take place and cultivate positive feelings about where I want to be.

[ghostrider]

I'm going with james horak on this one, if our leaders don't change their ways , the emv's will turn earth into a sun, and we will have a binary system. end of experiment.

[UnrealDreams]

What I'm doing...and my best advice...

In anticipation of Dec.21, or 22nd 2012, we should all focus on loving each other. Love is the single most important thing we have.
Love is the single most important aspect of life and evolution and the strongest force in the Universe.

I am personally enjoying the beauty of Earth. I am reveling in her beauty every day. Trees, people, animals, even bugs are so beautiful, majestic, and sacred. I am seeing people in a new way. I am seeing people for the enlightened beings they are about to become. When someone smiles at me it is such a strong reminder that there is so much more to human life.......we humans are nowhere near our potential. 5% of our DNA is active right now. I am in the mode of appreciating everything that the other 95% is about to bring to us.
Love everyone and every being.

There will be Earth changes in Dec 2012, and all through 2013. You must be mentally prepared for anything. The Earth is evolving, growing into a new body. Embrace the changes and know that what you want is whatever is best for all of humanity, and mother Earth. Be calm. Accept whatever happens as necessary for evolution. Even if I die during these changes, that is okay with me because they are necessary changes and I want what is best for mother Earth.
Be receptive to the changes and any outcome.

Be helpful. Now and in the great times of need you should be prepared to help anyone who needs it. If the worst establishment elite needs a meal, provide it. If the chemtrail pilot needs comforting because he lost a loved one, give it to him.
Service to others is the way forward.

Find your spiritual self. Prayer, yoga, meditation, etc. will help to prepare you for any upheaval that comes. I have been drawn to crystals at this time. I am currently in the process of discovering what crystals can do for me spiritually. Many so called "worthless" crystals and stones are of immense value right now. They can help you raise your consciousness, ground you and heal the chakras.
I reccomend you do some research on different crystal types and what they can do for you, if you are called to do so.

Rocks, plants, trees, animals, the air we breathe, the sun, the planets, and the entire universe. We are one in the same. The fabric of life is all around us. "God" is in every breath you take and he envelpoes you. We are going to see that there are no such things as "aliens". We are all visitors here. Everything in this Universe is One, connected by the great creator of life. Breathe it in...be thankful for it!!
Meditate on Oneness.

Enjoy the pleasures of life! We are human after all. Don't be afraid....rejoice in this life. Experience those things you have always wanted to experience. Do everything that is morally acceptable to you. Appreciate everything in this physical realm.
Always have good intentions.

No matter what the establishment does to us, they can't stop us from giving love at all times. Don't focus on THEM. Don't play THEIR game!! They wish to sidetrack you. Know what they are up to, if you need to, but don't fall into the trap of being fearful, anxious, and hateful.
I love the most murderous elite as if they were my brother. If they play OUR game, we will win. They have no answer for unconditional love. Love can never be defeated.

[Wind]

Have you been feeling a major shift in the energies, right now? I've been so tired... The transformation process has already started and now it's really starting to speed up. You don't want to miss this ride, that's for sure! Thank God for this opportunity. I don't know if I should cry or laugh. This is bigger than all of us, this is just something so awesome. There are no words to describe it, let us just embrace it!

Letting go is the only way...

[Guaxini]

nothing will happen i believe.

[goinghome2012]

I don't think we need to do anything, but what is important is inner healing and being

Being the love and light that you are and empower yourself, knowing who you are, an eternal, infinite, immortal soul.

In my opinion we are all going home very soon, the passage through the void or the dark rift.

In my opinion everything changes and the Golden Age cometh after 2012, that is why TPTB are desperately wanting to start ww3 before the the end of time or Dec 21, 2012 and the precision of equinoxes on Marc 23, 2013

The shift of the ages only happens every aprox 26,000 years, it must be a significant event and I don't think it is just a consciousness shift change, it will be more profound than this, perhaps even a magnetic pole shift/solar flare.

peace

[eni-al]

I don't think anything catastrophic will happen. We'll see some stuff happening near the date most likely, who knows how long the events in Syria will go on for, things going with Iran, the whole area is shaking, just a matter of time till it all topples.
Then there is the missing weapons from Libya, and the supposed solar storms building up and having a effect in the next year or two.

But who knows, maybe something will happen around the date. Someone told me over a online chat, that something will only happen now as a result of this fear of 2012, that's its in so many minds, those people will effectively cause the disaster.

Edit: Just to clarify, don't think any predicted date has relevamce though events around or after the date may ne interpreted as the whole 2012, end of the world as we know it. :)

[Anchor]

---



I have been happy.
I was happy just then.
I am happy now.
I expect that I will be happy after this moment as well.
Furthermore I will, no doubt, be happy all the way up to and past Dec the fricking 21st 2012 :)


Mainly though I am a big fan of NOW, now is where its at baby - I am nowhere else!

[goinghome2012]

I'm going with james horak on this one, if our leaders don't change their ways , the emv's will turn earth into a sun, and we will have a binary system. end of experiment.

George Kavissilas mentioned the same thing in his videos and presentations, Mother Earth will transform into a sun. That would be the perfect evolutionary experience for all of us, I hope this happens.

[Falcor]

Have you been feeling a major shift in the energies, right now?

i feel like sometimes that the energies around me are shifting......... and shifting fast. but i also stop and wonder if it is only me who is changing fast and opening up to a new way of feeling the world. the more people i talk to, the more i wonder......

either way. what do i know :P

[Lifebringer]

Have some water and life saving resourcs like antibiotics creams and salves for infectioon and tear white sheets for bandages in case of concrete injury which damages layers of epidermal layers and may have rusted metal. Keep any aspirin or medicines in a tin cookie can or plastic lidded container. Make sure there is at least 80 gallons of water per family of 4 per week. Keep condensed bleach so it lasts longer and fignts the plague type germs from decomposition of material bodies dead in the after math. WE must focus our soul/spirit on the good of this life and ask the continuance of that good, while God has it's way.

[Bill Ryan]

George Kavissilas mentioned the same thing in his videos and presentations, Mother Earth will transform into a sun. That would be the perfect evolutionary experience for all of us, I hope this happens.

If George Kavassilas really believes this, he's insane. :)

[Molope]

How the hell a planet like Earth can turn in a sun? I mean WTF!? O_o i have never heard of such thing like that if we woud transform into a sun even that i doubt we coud O.O we woud all become KFC.

[Wind]

If George Kavassilas really believes this, he's insane. :)

"In a mad world, only the mad are sane."

[danceblackcatdance]

just thinking out loud / of the box :) isn't our sun supposedly a 'portal' or stargate or something? seen plenty of videos recently of ufos, or something(s), flying in and out of the sun... maybe it's a giant flame ball to us in our current vibration and another thing completely in higher density :cool:

[Wind]

just thinking out loud / of the box :) isn't our sun supposedly a 'portal' or stargate or something? seen plenty of videos recently of ufos, or something(s), flying in and out of the sun... maybe it's a giant flame ball to us in our current vibration and another thing completely in higher density :cool:

Spot on, mate! :)

[Finefeather]

The only thing of real significance that is going to happen, will take place on December 22, 2012.

.All the books, predictions, websites, arguments, writings on the wall to do with the 2012 hypothesis, as well as many peoples integrity will be thrown out the window.
.It will take a while for this clean up to be completed because many will be hanging on just in case it happens tomorrow, or maybe next week, or " hey man, lets take another look at that Mayan calender, someone has decoded the code all wrong".
.It will be a day where many will sit back and say, "You see, I told you nothing will happen, now how in hell are we gonna get all our stuff you sold back".
.Some will start to calculate the amount of time and money they waisted in 2012 and relate it to the amount of time and money they could have spent fixing all those little things around the house, which they put off for a whole year, instead of waiting all year for the ET bus which was going to whisk then away to paradise, no wife to bitch (just a joke girls ;)), no dog to feed, just peace and luxury.
.New blogs and forums will blossom, like; "What the hell just happened to us back there in 2012 - Do you know?" and "Shocking actual truth why we never ascended in 2012 - The lift broke down". :blabla: :rolleyes:

Let me say in contrast that I am deeply aware of the reality of our journey in life and the need to unlock the mysteries and wonders of our existence.
Many are trying to seek answers by using some form of logic which works only when all the facts are known.
All the facts are not known yet, and may one day surprise us all, and much of the history and analyses has been distorted and has been reported in accordance with the state of the evolution of the messenger.
To believe you can find the answers to life by analyses and by reading every book and article on the subject is folly when the real truth is not accessible to us yet.
The nature of the universe is evolution, an ever growing complexity of probabilities and possibilities.
So how can we expect to find the answers, and more so the solutions, by looking back in time when we are moving forever deeper into the unknown heart and mind and will of God.
Our individual lives are filled with information from so many sources, we do not know which way to turn, and tomorrow there will be more new ways.

What is the answer?
I do not want to say, as is the real way, to turn inside to seek for truth because how many really know how to do this? We have heard all the great minds tell us this is the way, but many are not yet ready to give it a try.
During this great cycle we have come to exercise the mind, and understand and master the emotions which so easily push us off our course.
The emotional side of our nature is the most powerful force we have to deal with on our earth journey, we need to be able to see clearly how it influences us in our daily lives.
The power of the mind on the other hand is the ability to rationalise and become aware of the limitations we place ourselves into when we live in the sea of emotion.
To be able to fully use the mind we need to understand it's levels and complexity. Most of us are rationalising with our lower minds which are filled with intellectual garbage collected over many years of listening to the blind and studying that which is intrinsically of no value to our being. Much we enjoy to read feeds the emotional life whilst the real dweller in the body waits for your call.
The goal of our life is to expand our awareness or consciousness so that the dweller can experience the full impact of physical life with the same joy as is experienced in the upper realms from where we come. We are not all aware of this because we are living at a level of awareness where we are unable to see the light and real beauty that can be experienced on the earth despite the many challenges we have to deal with.
Most if not all of these challengers are emotional based and this is why we need to start using and exercising our minds by seeking the true knowledge of life. This will allow us to rationalise away the fears and uncertainty of our purpose on this planet.

I give you this, my opinion, from my heart and mind, and it is filled with my love for all of those who seek, and are we not all seekers?

[goinghome2012]

Maybe The sun will take us through him and engulf us!!
Low vibration or fear consciousness on planet = cooked and recycled
High vibration of love and light on planet = not cooked / dimensional shift into new world

[Adi]

George Kavissilas mentioned the same thing in his videos and presentations, Mother Earth will transform into a sun. That would be the perfect evolutionary experience for all of us, I hope this happens.

If George Kavassilas really believes this, he's insane. :)

It is very easy for individuals to simply presume that because someone mentions something like "the earth turning into a sun", they can be immediately classed as insane, with out actually going and reading into the subject more, rather than superficially glancing upon the information as presented.

From my own personal research into George Kavassilas's material, there seems to be something extremely striking about what he has to say. He has an immense wealth of experiences and information to share, a lot witch corroborates with other respected individuals in the alternative information community, and those witch Project Camelot have interviewed and documented.

So I must state that simply coming to the, what seems, a superficial conclusion that the man is insane, is simply a weak understanding of the subject.

http://www.our-journey-home.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZDcn-LJNlo




Adi

[RMorgan]

George Kavissilas mentioned the same thing in his videos and presentations, Mother Earth will transform into a sun. That would be the perfect evolutionary experience for all of us, I hope this happens.

If George Kavassilas really believes this, he's insane. :)

It is very easy for individuals to simply presume that because someone mentions something like "the earth turning into a sun", they can be immediately classed as insane, with out actually going and reading into the subject more, rather than superficially glancing upon the information as presented.

From my own personal research into George Kavassilas's material, there seems to be something extremely striking about what he has to say. He has an immense wealth of experiences and information to share, a lot witch corroborates with other respected individuals in the alternative information community, and those witch Project Camelot have interviewed and documented.

So I must state that simply coming to the, what seems, a superficial conclusion that the man is insane, is simply a weak understanding of the subject.

http://www.our-journey-home.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZDcn-LJNlo




Adi

Hey mate,

I like part of his work as well.

However, planets don´t turn into suns. It´s physically impossible.

Only stars can be suns.

http://mail.colonial.net/~hkaiter/astronomyimagesB/starlife.jpg

Cheers,

Raf.

[jackovesk]

What should we do before the December 21st? The day when the timelines will merge. The day when the cosmic Superwave known as Nexus might arrive. Are all of us just going to wait for that magic date when we are supposedly going to ascend? Are we going to continue living our lives doing nothing? Is meditation enough? Virtually anything can happen in a year. The clock is ticking, 337 days left.

What should we do? Because we need to do something!

Please do share your thoughts and suggestions. :)


Prepare yourself of the massive amount of suicides that will flood the News, if nothing Positive happens on the 21st December 2012 or shortly thereafter...

Before anyone has a go at me for mentioning such a thing, bear in mind how the PTW/OWO are using the public as 'Human Doormats' and stomping on all their Freedoms & Rights and Destroying any real 'Hope' for a brighter future...

I can forsee, many saying: "I've had enough of this CRAP" - Time to go home...:yes4:

[Molope]

What people shoud do is be awake and aware thats it.If your mind is free and you little by little start to be aware of all the situation around instead of living in hope and only that because thats exactly what NWO woud want us to live.They woud say:Yeah let them live whith some hope of things that dont have sense while we take over their lives.By changing our minds we wont be controlled by the NWO,be the change you want to be thats simple.So no ET´s will come to save our asses,no arrests,no earth turning into a sun of love and light(sorry but this one defo kills me).Its us! WE have to change to bring the change to this planet,by changing our minds into thoughs of knowledge and positive things we will change this planet.But thast what we need a change of mind not a change of dreams.

Best wishes.

[Rocky_Shorz]

through my dreams I already looked at future automobiles that don't use fuel or get plugged in...

was it real?

I'm an engineer and the technology is very simplistic and could be made now, but I don't see it happening in the next 6 months which means humans will still be here for a very long time...

at least until oil economies are replaced to allow advanced technology into the marketplace...

[Artworks]

Personally , I like insane, as long as it is not going along the negative path, it gives me comfort, because in this world that most live taking it as normal, makes no sense to me!

[Artworks]

Yes and I have had two people from work away staying with me this summer!

[Ahauchata]

My personal take on this subject, is that I don't feel that on this date the 'all of a sudden' everyone will be awake and the like is going to be; yes on the 22nd we will still have our bills, and life will go on, however to me this date is a pivotal change for the collective and the process of waking up shall continue (fingers crossed) as the date really is the end of the current Bak'tun according to the Mayan Calendar. Thus; we will be entering a new level of our evolution. Now; also I feel for those of us on the path the experience, like all experiences are dependant on the person so what might be my experience may or may not be anothers however to hold expectations well... on this end I don't hold expectations just what is I suppose.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I'm waiting for the 22nd, planning a big "We Survived" the Mayan Calendar party!!!

here at avalon, we're mostly wide awake already, what type of event will it take to snap everyone else out of it?


ETs suddenly filling our skies uncloaked...

The Dome lifting off and floating up to be a city in the sky...


what would it take to wake your friends?

[Violet]

Honestly, I'm not sure anything out of the ordinary will happen on that day.

That, or everyone's negative energy focused on that day might bring some minor surprise.

Whatever happened with the whole Olympic zionist conspiracy after all?

[Camilo]

What should we do before the December 21st? The day when the timelines will merge. The day when the cosmic Superwave known as Nexus might arrive. Are all of us just going to wait for that magic date when we are supposedly going to ascend? Are we going to continue living our lives doing nothing? Is meditation enough? Virtually anything can happen in a year. The clock is ticking, 337 days left.

What should we do? Because we need to do something!

Please do share your thoughts and suggestions. :)

http://artsonearth.com/www/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/122-doomsday2012.jpg

Follow your spirit without hesitation and see where that takes you. The believe that you have to have like a job description (to do something) is a distraction.

[thunder24]

I'm waiting for the 22nd, planning a big "We Survived" the Mayan Calendar party!!!

here at avalon, we're mostly wide awake already, what type of event will it take to snap everyone else out of it?


ETs suddenly filling our skies uncloaked...

The Dome lifting off and floating up to be a city in the sky...


what would it take to wake your friends?

where do i get my ticket for the DOME PARTY?

[Rocky_Shorz]

hey Thunder long time no see...

it's special invitation only for Domecrats... ;)

[thunder24]

LOL... mayb an independant can act like he's got a Wise-DOME so he can participate. :p

I'm on the hurry up and wait list to see what the bright light is right after december 21st. It should b interesting.

Hint... focus on a world u want to see, don't let the old get a firm grip in the new...

peace

[Rocky_Shorz]

I'm an independent too, but the poor Dems here at Avalon needed a little help, lots of strong posters behind the Repubes that had them all afraid of stepping forward...

I'll stand with friends on any issue, words on a screen...

Jesse is my old party buddy back in Brooklyn Park... ;)


uh oh, now they all know my secret.. lucky nobody reads my posts... heheh

[thunder24]

Yeah Repubes are defanilty a firey bunch. Problem is everyone gets very narrow minded come this season, and fails to look at a larger scope then the 24 hour news cycle or just the past four years.
If everyone focused on the the next 6months as much as they do this non-sense, then mayb the 21st would b a thankful ending...and the 22nd a beautiful beginning...
in ur case a truly NEW YEAR...:peace:

[Wind]

After so many failed predictions I am not one to bet for certain dates, but I now do think that December 21 might be some kind of a culmination point in human evolution. There is something different about that date. Something unexplainable. What happens after that? We can only guess.

Sources I suggest to listen (of course with a pinch of salt, as always):
Pane Andov

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Dolores Cannon

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Drunvalo Melchizedek

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James Gilliland

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And many, many other people. Also last, but not least...

Your(higher)self!

[thunder24]

if for nothing else it is a culmination because it has been engrained in our brains, so we focus on it.... for good or bad, energy is surrounding that point just by our own thoughts grouped towards it. side note, i'v seen two old documentaries that talk about the 23rd instead of 21st... just found it odd... though to think about it, with the astrological aspect with the rebirth of the sun, i would assume its a surrounding of the dates, but we shall SEE...

[Wind]

I am prepared for the fact that nothing might happen, but then again something is always happening... This time it just might be extra big, but I understand why people have been so disappointed in the past. I'm fairly new to these prediction things, but deep inside me I feel that this 2012 phenomenom is much more than just a prediction.

We'll see.

[GloriousPoetry]

Spiritual Opening

[GloriousPoetry]

December 21, 2012 is the Winter Solstice.

[Anchor]

I'm taking the day off work - thats about as far as it goes for doing anything different - but this marks the beginning of my XMAS break anyway. I always like to take the solstices off anyway as they are great days for not working.

[161803398]

Hey wait!!! I just read a book about 9/11 as Mass Ritual where something VERY important was pointed out. The BIG DAY is not the day the Sun "dies" on the celestial cross, that is, December 21, 2012. Its the day the Sun is "reborn" on December 25, 2012.

[Wind]

I think that Gregg Braden knows what he's talking about:
http://omtimes.com/2011/10/shifting-to-a-better-world/

This "2012" thing has happened many times in the past, but this time will be the most important leap in human history. This planet has been too long in the darkness and finally light will prevail.

[gooty64]

My interpretation of what the Mayans and Drunvalo Melchizedek are saying about 12-21-2012 is the we are entering a new era where the old era ends and a new era begins.

But don't expect to see anything specifically noticeable happen on 12-21-2012. Although the "I told you so's" will be quite noticeable i'm sure.

From Eckhart Tolle to Marcel Messing to Drunvalo Melchizedek to Dolores Cannon to David Icke they are all pointing to a truly amazing shift in consciousness happening from a few years back to now and to a few years ahead.

I really hope that the negativity will no longer be supported on Earth after today and 12-21-2012.
I hope some energy from the cosmos will shift and allow A New Earth to come alive and for good and right to blossom and for negativity and wrong and dark to have no place to live here anymore.

[Wind]

I'm sure you're on the right track, gooty. I won't be disappointed on 22-12-2012 becuase I know that the process might take weeks, months and maybe even years, but things will eventually get way better. It is just hard to say that how all of this is going to unfold. I expect that it has something to do with the energies coming from the Sun.

Only two months left!

[Mutchie]

Patrick Geryl is convinced that 21st dec 2012 is when the poles will flip causing the most severe cataclysm and who knows i mean they are moving. I myself am still working but i have had various days off due to ill health lately i picked up this really bad cold and was floored with it so i have spent a bit of time online myself wandering about what might happen in december ..... its a waiting game really

[KiwiElf]

Hi Mutchie,
Bit off topic, but try this for your cold: teaspoon of lemon juice, teaspoon of apple cider vinegar, and teaspoon of baking soda in warm/hot water (not necessarily together), about every hour or so. (you may be running to the bathroom a bit - but it's pretty good for a lot of ailments actually) ;)... and yes, we will just have to wait and see what happens on 21 Dec 2012.

[Mutchie]

Hi Mutchie,
Bit off topic, but try this for your cold: teaspoon of lemon juice, teaspoon of apple cider vinegar, and teaspoon of baking soda in warm/hot water (not necessarily together), about every hour or so. (you may be running to the bathroom a bit - but it's pretty good for a lot of ailments actually) ;)... and yes, we will just have to wait and see what happens on 21 Dec 2012.

Thank you i will try it ....

[aceninja]

Who knows. With our Gregorian calendar who knows what day and year it actually is or why they altered the calendar in the first place? Was the original timeline already tampered with?

What if the event visually appeared as a meteor shower? Well, it would be going on right now.

In all seriousness I do look forward to some kind of dramatic positive event but for the time being I am living for right now. I sense there is no time for living in a fantasy of preparing for an event that may or may not happen. When we keep doing that we are coasting through life fixed on an alternate reality when we have reality right now to participate in and learn from.

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Whatever was happening Dec 21 2012 was supposed to reach its CLIMAX at that date. It has been gradually happening for years apparently.

[RunningDeer]

I think that Gregg Braden knows what he's talking about:
http://omtimes.com/2011/10/shifting-to-a-better-world/

This "2012" thing has happened many times in the past, but this time will be the most important leap in human history. This planet has been too long in the darkness and finally light will prevail.

Thanks for the link, StarSeed. While reading, I discovered Gregg Braden's new book and I've downloaded it: "Deep Truth: Igniting the Memory of Our Origin, History, Destiny, and Fate".

A quote from Gregg Braden's newest book just released, "Deep Truth"

"We are drowning in information, while starving for wisdom. The world henceforth will be run by synthesizers, people able to put together the right information at the right time" This is a quote attributed to evolutionary biologist E. O. Wilson.

[Earth Angel]

two months from today we will know !!!

[Anchor]

In one month, someone will say, one month to go!

I expect the next month will fly past really quickly.

[greybeard]

Great Gregg Braden video here

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-The-Ego-what-is-it-How-to-transcend-it.&p=551545&viewfull=1#post551545

If you look through the thread you will find videos of many differing and complimentary view points.

Chris

[Kiforall]

In one month, someone will say, one month to go!

I expect the next month will fly past really quickly.

And on the last night All the tomato plants will be brought inside! (sorry couldn't resist :laugh:)

Oh Happy Days.

Zoe x

[RunningDeer]

Great Gregg Braden video here

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-The-Ego-what-is-it-How-to-transcend-it.&p=551545&viewfull=1#post551545

If you look through the thread you will find videos of many differing and complimentary view points.

Chris

Hi Chris,

I've seen that vid. It's powerful in so many ways. Well worth all the hours. I watched it over a couple of days.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[modwiz]

I find peace in knowing that the release of the first Hobbit movie on the 14th comes before. Do I have my priorities straight or what?

[Arrowwind]

And one month after, on January 21, someone somewhere will be trying to concoct a new end of the world scenario to keep us on our toes, to keep the paranoia high, to keep the stress level going, to keep us wondering, to keep us in deception, to keep us longing, to keep us pushing forward, to keep us buying books, to keep us projecting out, to keep us anywhere but in the moment.

[RunningDeer]

I find peace in knowing that the release of the first Hobbit movie on the 14th comes before. Do I have my priorities straight or what?

Rumor has it, they moved the date back just for you... :wizard:

[Anchor]

And one month after, on January 21, someone somewhere will be trying to concoct a new end of the world scenario to keep us on our toes, to keep the paranoia high, to keep the stress level going, to keep us wondering, to keep us in deception, to keep us longing, to keep us pushing forward, to keep us buying books, to keep us projecting out, to keep us anywhere but in the moment.



I am hopeful that the 21st Dec does actually mark a turning point where we start more openly acknowledging the light that is changing the world and not so much the efforts to stop that showing.

Eitherway, light has won already for this planet, not all TPTB realize yet and the next 30 years is going to be increasingly difficult for people like them.

[whenyournex2me]

Read: Eckhart Tolle's The Power Of The Now. That is all, unlock your being, and forget the mind. That which limits you, your growth. Meditation helps the energy body develop. But we are still in the material. When I Die, that is when I ascend. I don't know what will happen on the 21st on the 21st of Dec. I think the event has already occurred for me, and it did this before Dec 21. but rather around Oct 2011. That day specifically is a day marked in history for a passing of the old age, as we move into the new age.
Please remember that Apocalypse has nothing to do with End of the World, it will be here for a long time. Earth is a spiritual breeding grounds, and will continue to exist for millenia. Our spirit, Energy, Physical bodies however, may perish and all you can do I think, is love, be in love, and teach others, the now, so they can experience this as well. If it is only an internal realization, then so be it. I do not have the time today, to explain or spend on my computer here, but I will asap, when I have my things in order. Ive been traveling and am no longer in Oregon. I now know what my purpose is and every day I am struggling to unlock what I already know. to be conscious, is what we do... that is all we can do. :) hope this helps. best of luck, I love you all and I will see you on the other side.

[greybeard]

Read: Eckhart Tolle's The Power Of The Now. That is all, unlock your being, and forget the mind. That which limits you, your growth. Meditation helps the energy body develop. But we are still in the material. When I Die, that is when I ascend. I don't know what will happen on the 21st on the 21st of Dec. I think the event has already occurred for me, and it did this before Dec 21. but rather around Oct 2011. That day specifically is a day marked in history for a passing of the old age, as we move into the new age.
Please remember that Apocalypse has nothing to do with End of the World, it will be here for a long time. Earth is a spiritual breeding grounds, and will continue to exist for millenia. Our spirit, Energy, Physical bodies however, may perish and all you can do I think, is love, be in love, and teach others, the now, so they can experience this as well. If it is only an internal realization, then so be it. I do not have the time today, to explain or spend on my computer here, but I will asap, when I have my things in order. Ive been traveling and am no longer in Oregon. I now know what my purpose is and every day I am struggling to unlock what I already know. to be conscious, is what we do... that is all we can do. :) hope this helps. best of luck, I love you all and I will see you on the other side.


There are quite a few Eckhart Tolle videos on the thread linked here.
Your safe with Eckhart. (no agenda)
Chris
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-The-Ego-what-is-it-How-to-transcend-it.&p=572735&viewfull=1#post572735

[DeDukshyn]

I have my suspicions that there will be an "event" or perhaps various "events" that will occur in relationship to the spiritual evolution of mankind. This phenomen of transformation based on spiritual advancement is often called "The Miracle" and it is based on learning true forgiveness and putting that into practice (without the practice it is merely just "a good idea"). If mankind starts to shift towards this en mass by collective standards, the scale of the resultant "Miracle" could well be grand. I see a mechanism of action that in theory (from what I know and have learned - mostly sciencey type stuff), that there could wel be a grand transformative event on planet Earth.

Is this what Dec 21st 2012 is all about? I highly doubt we are collectively there yet, for this to occur anytime real soon. But I'm leaving my window open for all possibilities. I see that date as a symbolic milestone marker, but an important one.

I also have to consider the effort the elite are putting into not allowing us to advance spiritually -- vast amounts of effort and money - it is a main driving consideration of theirs. Are they trying to prevent a theoretical globally transformative "event" that they know about?

food for thoughts! ;)

My 2 cents ;)

[redlotus]

How the hell a planet like Earth can turn in a sun? I mean WTF!? O_o i have never heard of such thing like that if we woud transform into a sun even that i doubt we coud O.O we woud all become KFC.

It is easy to make a knee-jirk reaction when you hear something that is outside the box of your narrow awareness. If people on this forum claim to be "awake" - I sure hope they just mean they woke up this morning to go to work in the warm and fuzzy matrix with their comfy slave jobs, bank accounts, and are being armchair yellers...

In order to truly understand what George Kavassilas' message is - people need to listen to the whole lecture, read his new book or get his audio book.
He answers the Why? What? Where? questions for those who really want to know. If his message does not resonate, that is just fine, too.
The big difference with George is, he experienced on his own self, what he shares. If anyone of you can do that, step up to the plate and show what you have. Otherwise, you are just armchair yellers.
BTW. Planet Earth has a very strong protective shell, but beneath that shell she is a star. What will occur soon is that this planet will turn into a star (NOT A SUN)...
I am stating this, because I had experienced it in many premonitions. In fact, ask any of the new Crystal Children, any age - 14 or below, they will confirm this statement - as a matter-of-fact, simple knowing statement, without any hesitation.
Blessings to y'all...:cool:

[Wind]

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[Frigola]

Well, yes, we have to do something about 12/21/2012. Meditation, DNA reconstruction, mentalization, etc, whatever.
The main thing is to stay focused and open minded for the changes that will continue after that day.
Have you realized how the masses is getting crazy, disoriented ? I mean, people are nervous, less tolerant.
Take care youALL.
Regards

[The Truth Is In There]

It is easy to make a knee-jirk reaction when you hear something that is outside the box of your narrow awareness. If people on this forum claim to be "awake" - I sure hope they just mean they woke up this morning to go to work in the warm and fuzzy matrix with their comfy slave jobs, bank accounts, and are being armchair yellers...

In order to truly understand what George Kavassilas' message is - people need to listen to the whole lecture, read his new book or get his audio book.
He answers the Why? What? Where? questions for those who really want to know. If his message does not resonate, that is just fine, too.
The big difference with George is, he experienced on his own self, what he shares. If anyone of you can do that, step up to the plate and show what you have. Otherwise, you are just armchair yellers.
BTW. Planet Earth has a very strong protective shell, but beneath that shell she is a star. What will occur soon is that this planet will turn into a star (NOT A SUN)...
I am stating this, because I had experienced it in many premonitions. In fact, ask any of the new Crystal Children, any age - 14 or below, they will confirm this statement - as a matter-of-fact, simple knowing statement, without any hesitation.
Blessings to y'all...:cool:

if being awake means believing everything some people proclaim as their truth then i bet that most people on this forum are still asleep, and rightly so.

earth will soon turn into a star... can you explain how that would be possible? and while you're at it, what's the difference between a sun and a star? can we live on a star but not on a sun?

btw, crystal children will also confirm satan claus and the easter bunny. i wouldn't give too much credence to that.

[gooty64]

I might be a starseed too;)
shh, don't tell anyone though, it's frowned upon on here:(. :rapture:


r9uw8Yvw3LA

[Wind]

Welcome to the club, gooty. :cheers:

It's been almost ten months since I started this thread and asked that "what should we do?" I still cannot tell what others should do, but I know what I will. I'll keep shining the light to this world, no matter what happens. I am not despaired, angry or sad anymore. I'm excited about the "New Golden Age"... Yes, I know how everyone loves that term and David Wilcock here, but whatever...

I have started to accept the fact that All is well. Indeed it is, in this moment. So why not embrace it? Everything we need is inside us. Not in our minds, but in our hearts.

[atut]

21st December 2012 = the greatest hoax
people fooled > people believe > people not believe > people ignore

the people who ignore December 2012 are the winners.... they didnt waste their energy
we are losers... LOL

[Vitalux]

You can never be too sure about anything.

The only time to worry about dying is once you have died.
When that happens you probably will be quite surprise to find out you are still alive.
:confused:

[Wind]

This new information from Tolec highly resonates with me.

VcGv_3-fmyo

[scarletfire]

I'm relatively young, 32 years old and in my lifetime I've already witnessed Y2K, the Dec 3rd earthquake on the New Madrid fault that got my family camping in the woods with boxes of supplies and I can't help but suspect that on Dec 22nd all the true believers of Dec 21 doom and gloom may feel a bit silly. I used to put more stock in these prophecies but now days its obvious that things ain't quite right and that the civilized structure that we have built up could crash at any time. When you really look at it, its amazing that its lasted this long. From looking at world events it seems that TPTW are sure making a sincere effort to ignite all out war in the tinderbox known as the Israel/Palestinian/Iranian/Syrian/Egyptian, etc crisis. Perhaps the man made apocalypse will precede the cosmic one referred to in ancient prophecy, if of course that is what prophecy was in reference to. Do any of us really know for sure? What will be will be:o

[Wind]

From looking at world events it seems that TPTW are sure making a sincere effort to ignite all out war in the tinderbox known as the Israel/Palestinian/Iranian/Syrian/Egyptian, etc crisis. Perhaps the man made apocalypse will precede the cosmic one referred to in ancient prophecy, if of course that is what prophecy was in reference to. Do any of us really know for sure? What will be will be:o

Are they making the prophecies come true or are the prophecies coming true nevertheless?

Don't buy into the fear game, because that is exactly what TPTW want. The shift will be only a positive thing, but not for the top players of the dark elite.

[Etherios]

we are almost 1 month away and all the hyper energies or the changes in society havent manifest yet. I am getting more sure that nothing will happen at 21/12/2012.

TPTB are playing this card to keep us occupied and distracted from what they want to do. Things are moving fast all over the planet and some are just stuck doing nothing but waiting this date. In the end 2 things will happen :

1st the date will come and pass ... and then we will see huge numbers of people with phycological problems (nothing happened ...).
2nd we will start to realize (or some just accept) that the world we live in has changed drastically the last year (who knows - war - economic meltdown etc) and that we have been awol from this process.

I am getting really afraid/worried about what will happen on 22/12/2012 and on.

[Gardener]

I am a 2012, sceptic and by that I mean I don't buy into the hype. I have purchased my 2013 diary (page a day A4) :). This does not mean that 'things' are not changing and have been for many years, and for many years to come too no doubt. My reasoning is basically based on observable data and not on say channeled or prophecied predictions. Though I do not discount the efforts and abilities of some who like us work with what they have and with good intention.

The curent Mayan calender ends on the solstice this year and a new one begins; regardless of how the calender came about it is still man made. The gregorian calender is man made, other cultures have their specific calenders.

Cycles come and go, the 24 hour day and night cycle of the sun, (no clock required) the twelve month seasons of the year cycles of the sun and moon, (no calender required) the precession of the equinoxes the cycles of the constellations 24,000 yrs plus (varies depending who is talking) all observable and countable, one huge clock. So it comes as no surprise that tribal wise men documented and attempted to understand what may be coming in order to bring meaning and planning into their lives.

Aquarius constellation will soon be the one which rises on the horizon as dawn breaks, we are not quite there yet but we will be, and then we will be fully in that age in the precessional cycle. So it makes a lot of sense to me that when the message to the '12 apostles' at the start of the fish sign said 'look for the man carying the picture of water' this is what was being refered to.

21st December 2012 the winter solstice this year, marks the point in the depth of winter of the precession when the sun begins its journey into light on the precessional cycle and into the next age. Onwards and upwards.

Upheaval, yes I think so, many trying to prevent what cannot be prevented.

[HORIZONS]

"ATTENTION ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION - We have assumed control, we have assumed control!"

[Wind]

One month left until the magic date!

Let's wait and see. ;)

[Demeisen]

I know what I'm going to do 21.12.
I have arranged an appointment to dentist :)

Yesterday I stumbled into this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID-zDcvrHPk (sorry if it's already posted)
I suppose it's a prophecy date video that didn't happen, but that's not the point I wanted to make. There are also some intriguing points of view that may have seeds of truth in it. If something can be taken as a "truth" I believe that would be the saying that nothing in this planet is what it seems to be. This is a reverse society.

Basically what Alex Retrov says on the video is:
- All religions on this planet have been made by PTB, including New Age
- Date 21.12.2012 is not a real date, but made by PTB to keep people occupied from seeing whats really happening. Does anyone have info what this might mean?
- Mayan calendar does not have 21.12.2012 (I don't know what he means with that)
- We can't ascend, because we already exist in all levels. (Here I have to disagree in some degree. We are not aware of the higher levels we exist, thus expanding our awareness qualifies to be called as 'ascension')

I don't mean to come here and state nothing will happen on 21.12. I just wanted to share this information, which may or may not be valid. I do hope that something positive will happen. And sooner or later something must happen. But I'm not sure it's then or later. I personally believe that ascension means a new window of opportunities opening. This means humanity will have more than ever support to start evolving, to give a way to higher values like love and respect of other. As much as I hope there would be one overnight event and we wake up in a wonderland, the realist in me insists it will be more gradual process which could take years, more likely decades. Money, greed, inequality, etc. are so deep in our social structure that I don't see how it could be erased away in a flash. But definitely when more and more people wake up and learn to be responsible and take their power back, things will start happening. Until then, the 'status quo', most likely, will be maintained at all costs as usual.

[PathWalker]

I though this post might better belong in here:


Hi
I've really enjoyed reading all of this and helps put pieces together. Do you have any idea how we can best make use of the "lift" on 12/22?

1. Release your fears. The most important advice of all. If you do not release you fears. They control you. Instead you control your path.
2. Reconnect to your human soul powers (Watch some George Kavassilas videos)
3. Recognize and reorient your soul path.


Besides pen and paper what else can we do?

1. Let go you of your fears.
2. Practice mental state of gratitude for living in this time.


How can we throw off this tyranny without violence as they clearly have the upper hand in that area?

1. Internalized that the separation is illusion. They are we, we are they. We flip sides all the time. There is reason for the genetic mix. It is difficult (if not impossible) to find pure blooded human. ET are us everywhere as well.
2. Integrate polarities. Balance bias toward one polarity over the other. Just let go the drama. The polarities are there to teach us. You graduate by integrating them.
3. Practice forgiveness, release you from the polarity bonds.

It seems that the Reptilian genetics are why we are in this mess as they seem to run the planet. It seems they are already hybrids or some such combination placed in high places. I want to be free on all levels-soul, and in this life or any other level that I"m not conscious of.

As said before. Humans are hybrids of more then 32 ET races, including the reptilians. Every each person has a very unique genetic mix. The human genetic if the most valuable commodity in this universe. It is the best integration ever made.
At the graduation time, (which is practically now). We learn to recognize the truth and reality that we are not alone and connect to our true ancestory.
When you release the They/Us thought pattern, you are out of "their" control. You just stop playing the game anymore. That is exactly what will happen when the vale will lift.


I don't have that many "experiences" (a few) that I can remember but I"m never shocked or surprised at anything that I read or hear about in these areas. I just want to put the information together in order to make the best decisions and help in the most effective way. I truly appreciate your help and contributions Simon. How can we best utilize our abilities as humans to change for the highest good? and right NOW!
We all love the drama game, the story and the legends (Don't you like action movies - we are having one just now). If you want to remember who you are and the power you have. Let go of the drama, and be patient. Less then a month to go, practice forgiveness. Then you will get you answers from your soul.

The soul's greatest desire is to serve.

[Anchor]

"ATTENTION ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION - We have assumed control, we have assumed control!"

You are 100 years too early ;)

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[Spiral]

"ATTENTION ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION - We have assumed control, we have assumed control!"

You are 100 years too early ;)

Rock !



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQEgZNqa8jE


VII. The Grand Finale (18:19)
Attention all Planets of the Solar Federation
Attention all Planets of the Solar Federation
Attention all Planets of the Solar Federation
We have assumed control
We have assumed control
We have assumed control

[SilentFeathers]

Here's how some are aligning their reality......


Mayan apocalypse: panic spreads as December 21 nears

Fears that the end of the world is nigh have spread across the world with only days until the end of the Mayan calendar, with doomsday-mongers predicting a cataclysmic end to the history of Earth.

Ahead of December 21, which marks the conclusion of the 5,125-year "Long Count" Mayan calendar, panic buying of candles and essentials has been reported in China and Russia, along with an explosion in sales of survival shelters in America. In France believers were preparing to converge on a mountain where they believe aliens will rescue them.

The precise manner of Armageddon remains vague, ranging from a catastrophic celestial collision between Earth and the mythical planet Nibiru, also known as Planet X, a disastrous crash with a comet, or the annihilation of civilisation by a giant solar storm.

In America Ron Hubbard, a manufacturer of hi-tech underground survival shelters, has seen his business explode.

"We've gone from one a month to one a day," he said. "I don't have an opinion on the Mayan calendar but, when astrophysicists come to me, buy my shelters and tell me to be prepared for solar flares, radiation, EMPs (electromagnetic pulses) ... I'm going underground on the 19th and coming out on the 23rd. It's just in case anybody's right."

In the French Pyrenees the mayor of Bugarach, population 179, has attempted to prevent pandemonium by banning UFO watchers and light aircraft from the flat topped mount Pic de Bugarach.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9730618/Mayan-apocalypse-panic-spreads-as-December-21-nears.html

[Wind]

It is their choice to choose to live in fear. Instead of it I suggest to find peace & love even in the times of turmoil.

[Logan]

The cat, Hubbard, who is selling shelters is going to be laughing his way to the bank on Saturday. He's smart to take advantage of a very silly market bubble.

Love you guys, but lets be honest. Tomorrow will be a day like any other. If it is something different for you I consider it a placebo effect from all this random conjecture this thread is filled with. Lets come back down to Earth, guys.

[lookbeyond]

Good Morning, it is 21/12/12/ where i am and a lovely quiet one at that. I awoke earlier it was 2:11 and the night was exquisitely still, would hav liked to stay up and enjoy but work today.
A safe day to All,
lookbeyond

[Anchor]

I took the day off - nice long XMAS break now for me.

[yiolas]

Hi Anchor, I taking the day off too! Cheers

[Wind]

Well, now after the wait is over maybe we can start to focus on the now... No more any expectations, I'm just going to embrace every moment as they come. Life is a rollercoaster.

[Logan]

Surprisingly quiet thread after this meaningless date passed. No one backpedaling and saying the NWO delayed their fake alien bluebeam haarp plans for the next Olympics or something?

[a1exanderga11ier]

I spent my 12/21 healing others and being a source of peace and love for my co-workers -- thanks New Age sales industry! ;)

[daveywales]

Something major happened to me. Leading up to the 21st I could not still my thoughts to meditate. My dreams seemed to be of nothing. I felt switched off. I prepared the room on the 21st and sat down to meditate. Within 5 minutes my my was still and I felt something change within me. Now I can close my eyes on the bus, when my kids visit and are watching a DVD and after closing my eyes I see the dot of light within seconds. I am so switched on now. I feel the universe has made it easier to do these things. This is our time, 2013 will be the year when the scales tip from material to spiritual. Love to all, David

[Earth Angel]

How about this.....


Surprisingly quiet thread after this meaningless date passed. No one backpedaling and saying the NWO delayed their fake alien bluebeam haarp plans for the next Olympics or something?