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AlternativeInfoJunkie
19th January 2012, 23:21
I have been watching the 2012 republican primary. I plan on voting for Ron Paul but I am worried that the OWO will tamper with the results in my state and other states. Maybe we could set up a survey system in each state where we independently call up and verify who each person voted for in the primary / caucus / and/or election. We could try to get an answer from every registered voter and if someone refused to say who they voted for we could mark that down. I think most people would be happy to participate though to help make sure that our elections are not tampered with. I think if we could pull it off it would definitely make election fraud easier to identify! I am of the opinion, based on the difference between the polls and the actual outcomes of the primaries and caucuses that there has been some tampering already. Santorum's pre-caucus polls did not suggest that he would come in as strong as he did in iowa. What do you guys think?

Douglass
19th January 2012, 23:32
I am from Ohio and I also plan to vote for Ron Paul. Not two weeks ago I was thinking of the same solution. I know of a lot of Paul supporters here who could possibly help. Maybe we could contact his campaign and ask them of ideas or if they would be interested in helping. I think its a great idea. I am willing to help out. I will research a bit and do some thinking.

Douglass
19th January 2012, 23:37
Is there a law against setting up a public poll the same day as the election? I mean so many people do not vote in the states, the ones that do wont mind doing two. Its a crazy idea but this is a crazy world.

AlternativeInfoJunkie
20th January 2012, 00:01
Is there a law against setting up a public poll the same day as the election? I mean so many people do not vote in the states, the ones that do wont mind doing two. Its a crazy idea but this is a crazy world.

I don't think it's illegal. I'm sure establishment types wouldn't like it though. Hey I have a meeting with other Ron Paul supporters next thursday. I will bring this topic up at the meeting and let you know what they say. Do you think it would be easier to do it the day of the primary / caucus? It would probably be more effective. I think it might be easier to do by phone though. Hey thanks for your response! Maybe together we can get enough people behind the idea to make a difference.

DreamsInDigital
20th January 2012, 00:10
I think also if you guys could forward the information to Ron Paul's campaign office about the plot to rig the election and install Jeb Bush, if then RP gets it out to the public, it might help. I also think that what you guys are proposing is a good idea. But, wanted to suggest that for someone that knows how to forward the information from Henry Kissenger. That other thread another poster put up here in the forums where HK spilled the beans to china.

jagman
20th January 2012, 00:39
Election fraud is going to happen. It is out of our hands.The PTB have given us three choices. Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich or Barrack Obama
All three are owned. I will not be voting for Ron Paul although I do agree with Mr Paul on a number of issues Stopping the Wars, Ending
the FED, Having both Houses of Congress actually vote on going to war,You know To actually abide by our Constitution! But Here is the turd in the
punch bowl for Ron Paul supporters. A majority Americans find his stances on foreign policy to be naive. But I personally wish him well.

Douglass
20th January 2012, 01:57
Is there a law against setting up a public poll the same day as the election? I mean so many people do not vote in the states, the ones that do wont mind doing two. Its a crazy idea but this is a crazy world.

I don't think it's illegal. I'm sure establishment types wouldn't like it though. Hey I have a meeting with other Ron Paul supporters next thursday. I will bring this topic up at the meeting and let you know what they say. Do you think it would be easier to do it the day of the primary / caucus? It would probably be more effective. I think it might be easier to do by phone though. Hey thanks for your response! Maybe together we can get enough people behind the idea to make a difference.



Absolutely. I realize the slim possibility of RP being elected president but I supported him in 2008 and I am going to again. I really think he is a truthful human being and even if he doesn't get elected president he is part of a huge movement of millions of Americans who believe in the possibility of a country that operates on foundations of freedom, defense(not colonialism) justice, and sound economics that operates as a useful tool that works for every person.

I will update you as I think and dig further.

Peace and Freedom

markpierre
20th January 2012, 06:15
Election fraud is going to happen. It is out of our hands.The PTB have given us three choices. Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich or Barrack Obama
All three are owned. I will not be voting for Ron Paul although I do agree with Mr Paul on a number of issues Stopping the Wars, Ending
the FED, Having both Houses of Congress actually vote on going to war,You know To actually abide by our Constitution! But Here is the turd in the
punch bowl for Ron Paul supporters. A majority Americans find his stances on foreign policy to be naive. But I personally wish him well.

The majority of Americans are held in abject fear. They're not even aware of it. Hopefully enough of them are too dulled down to vote at all.

But I was told by a healer long ago, when I was complaining about the impossible situation we seemed to face. The healing of the world is an old old conversation.
I was way ahead of myself and my experience then, but now it's here and imminent.

"The way we heal the world" she said, "is one mind at a time".

Can we borrow from that idea and say, 'one vote at a time'? One inspired free human at a time?
The moment you set yourself free in your mind.....you're free. When you discover the difference between alive and unconscious, you're alive.

The more support Ron Paul has, the more influence he and what he has awoken in the world will have on your future. Elected, or even just a huge pain in the ass of the ptb. That's a very big deal.
It's not Ron Paul we're choosing, he's a symbol. It's each of our personal determination to be free.
How determined are you?

I'd think that integrity would demand that we all make our choices with conscience. Not concession, not strategies that ensure net failure.

That one single maybe irrelevant vote for a potentially hopeless cause may well be your healing.

The moment you drew your circle and refused to bow. That's a big deal too.

All of those things that you agree with in Ron's platform you can be assured you will never have, especially if you vote against them.
Yet all of those issues are the make or break of not just American society, but of the whole of humanity living in civility and promise.

Promise isn't hope....promise is certainty. Hope is living without certainty.
What sounds more appealing?

The next best option is to pray that devastation for humanity is quick and decisive. Does WW3 seem reasonable to you? Voting against it sound naive?

I'd be voting with my conscience at this point in time, because there very literally is no time left.

I wish you luck with your future, if you're depending on luck. You'll be lucky to survive if things continue unchecked.