Sudden Realisations

[Nerge]

I'd like to share something and would enjoy hearing if others have had any similar experiences, especially in recent times. :)

I've come to realise that at several points I've had a certain thought or realisation suddenly dawn on me. Now I don't always think these are strange or perhaps out of place or new at the time but usually always at some short while after, which leaves me thinking "where the heck did that come from?" or "I've not noticed that before!".

A few examples of this:

1) Say you notice something about your body that isn't perhaps exactly how you'd like it and then having the sudden thought "ah, no big deal it's only for this particular 'body' that'll it'll be there". That was an eye opener - just an instant thought and with no drama or fear about it, just a 'that's the way it is' in a very matter-of-fact kind of way.

2) Speaking to someone and having the sudden feeling that speaking out loud is so slow and a very time-intensive/basic form of communicating. Not that the conversation was boring or the person is tiring to speak to, as you might think. Basically, with the inner realisation that 'telepathy' or sharing a 'knowing' is so much easier and faster way of doing things. Again, out of nowhere and pretty surprising - this was before delving into a more non-mainstream way of seeing things.

And then we have number 3, bit of a longer one this:

3) Perhaps one of the stranger ones and harder for me to explain (I confuse myself at the best of times ;)), is my internal thought process suddenly becoming very clear to me, which I don't believe I've conciously considered before, to my knowledge.

Now before I go into this further, this is how I (now) usually seperate thoughts - which I've recently become aware of; I'll give them two seperate names to make this easier to explain (I hope ;) ):

Language based (slower): This is a - relatively - slow and deliberate way of thinking, the same as when you read a book in your mind, it's the same as if you were to read out loud but obviously in your mind. Yes, it's relatively slow but as far as I'm aware I'm thinking in my native language when doing this - but that's a whole other topic! :)

It seems to allow the mind to slowly digest these thoughts, mull them over and express them in a way that is more familiar, like every day conversation.

Knowing based (instant): Now there's also the other way of thinking, which the best way I can describe it is 'instant knowing' - not in the sense that I can know anything on any subject, but that the idea or concept etc is there in my mind instantly - whether it's a simple or very complex one.

Okay, so those are the two types of thinking that I've began to conciously notice in recent times. In the past I never conciously made a distinction between these two ways of thinking, or at least not that I was aware of, or, of them being seperate, different and so apparent to me.

However, now when I have an instant 'knowing' it's almost like a part of my mind feels the need to put that instant thought through the slower 'language based' way of thinking. This makes me think "why are you bothering with that? You've already instantly grasped the concept, why go through that slow and laborious process?!"

It is almost as if a less sophisticated - and perhaps limited - side of thinking needs that slower process of thought to satisfy it; whether that side is what is known and referred to as the 'ego' -as they say- I am uncertain at this point.

Now I try and stick with the instant 'knowing' way of thinking now but it isn't easy; whther the slower language based way is just habbit (that I've just become aware of) or some side of mind/ego deperatley trying to cling onto that slower way of thinking, i'm not sure, but it's certainly a sudden and surprising realisation I've had. :)

It's almost like I equate the instant knowing way as being similar to the way in which telepathy may work (from what others have described); ideas, feelings and message conveyed instantly and clearly despite the complexity.

Any way; appologies if I've lost you in that, which is quite possible given my way of trying to explain this. ;)

Anyone had any sudden and surprising realisations like this or other thoughts on the subject?

P.S. I am quite sane (as far as I know :dance:), honest guv'. :)

[Jenci]

Hi Nerge,

Have you investigated what is Aware of all of this?
Jeanette

[Nerge]

Hi Nerge,

Have you investigated what is Aware of all of this?
Jeanette

Well, I've considered that this could be what is referred to as the higher-self or conciousness, and the possibility that I'm having brief experiences of this.
Although my experience of this is perhaps at a very limited and low-level - I'm no Yogi that's for sure but trying to incorporate some meditation these days. :)

[kcbc2010]

I've had two instances of this "knowing".

1) The first was former Pres. Reagan. My mind was wandering and I remember thinking "wouldn't it be cool to go to the funeral of Ronald Reagan" and then almost instantly, I said WTF was that. I mean, seriously who would think that was cool? Then, when he died a few weeks later I was freaked out because, even though I didn't know the guy, it's not like I wanted him to die.

2) Then, a few weeks before Michael Jackson died, my mind wandered and I thought about my step-sister's picture of MJ on a piece of silk. She coveted this thing during his "Thriller" period. I wondered how much $ it would be worth if he died. Then, I caught control of my thoughts and again was freaking out because I was thinking about profiting off of someone's death and was horrified because this is not normal thinking for me. However, he died a few weeks after that.

The part that was distinctly odd to me was that my mind wouldn't let me accept "new programming" about these topics. I couldn't change the information I was given. It was just that I knew it was going to happen (and, of course, my rational mind was saying 'of course, everyone dies. Everyone dies at some point.'), However, there was no rational evidence or fact that I could point to and say "see here it is. this is how I know." I find it hard to let my mind wander now, but in writing this I'm beginning to understand that this is a gift I need to accept, even if my "rational mind" wants it to be a load of cr@p.

[Jenci]

Hi Nerge,

Have you investigated what is Aware of all of this?
Jeanette

Well, I've considered that this could be what is referred to as the higher-self or conciousness, and the possibility that I'm having brief experiences of this.
Although my experience of this is perhaps at a very limited and low-level - I'm no Yogi that's for sure but trying to incorporate some meditation these days. :)


Very good :)


It appears that you have become aware of some strange experiences that you are having and you have become aware of how your mind is working and you have also become aware of something more subtle - the "knowing"

All of this is good but the mind/ego tends to try to make sense of this. It will try to draw conculsions and give explanations. Mind/ego becomes fascinated with what is going on. If you stop and notice, I would guess you will be able to see this.

So I asked the question, what is Aware of all of this?
The question is to shift your attention from the mind trying to make sense, to the Consciousness (higher self or whatever name you wish to use).
When attention is here, then you can watch the mind without watching the individual thoughts.
The more you do this, the more you will become Aware or Conscious.

Notice what happens when you shift your attention from the mind to what is Aware of it.
You could then ask the question, does this Awareness need an answer for what is going on?

It's the question which is important here, don't try to answer it. Only the mind will answer. The "knowing" already knows.
See how you get on. You may just be a Yogi :)
Jeanette

[Seikou-Kishi]

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[Nerge]

Hi Nerge,

Have you investigated what is Aware of all of this?
Jeanette

Well, I've considered that this could be what is referred to as the higher-self or conciousness, and the possibility that I'm having brief experiences of this.
Although my experience of this is perhaps at a very limited and low-level - I'm no Yogi that's for sure but trying to incorporate some meditation these days. :)


Very good :)


It appears that you have become aware of some strange experiences that you are having and you have become aware of how your mind is working and you have also become aware of something more subtle - the "knowing"

All of this is good but the mind/ego tends to try to make sense of this. It will try to draw conculsions and give explanations. Mind/ego becomes fascinated with what is going on. If you stop and notice, I would guess you will be able to see this.

So I asked the question, what is Aware of all of this?
The question is to shift your attention from the mind trying to make sense, to the Consciousness (higher self or whatever name you wish to use).
When attention is here, then you can watch the mind without watching the individual thoughts.
The more you do this, the more you will become Aware or Conscious.

Notice what happens when you shift your attention from the mind to what is Aware of it.
You could then ask the question, does this Awareness need an answer for what is going on?

It's the question which is important here, don't try to answer it. Only the mind will answer. The "knowing" already knows.
See how you get on. You may just be a Yogi :)
Jeanette

I think I'm starting to get this; I'll be sure to keep at it! Thanks for the info. :)

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I've had two instances of this "knowing".

1) The first was former Pres. Reagan. My mind was wandering and I remember thinking "wouldn't it be cool to go to the funeral of Ronald Reagan" and then almost instantly, I said WTF was that. I mean, seriously who would think that was cool? Then, when he died a few weeks later I was freaked out because, even though I didn't know the guy, it's not like I wanted him to die.

2) Then, a few weeks before Michael Jackson died, my mind wandered and I thought about my step-sister's picture of MJ on a piece of silk. She coveted this thing during his "Thriller" period. I wondered how much $ it would be worth if he died. Then, I caught control of my thoughts and again was freaking out because I was thinking about profiting off of someone's death and was horrified because this is not normal thinking for me. However, he died a few weeks after that.

The part that was distinctly odd to me was that my mind wouldn't let me accept "new programming" about these topics. I couldn't change the information I was given. It was just that I knew it was going to happen (and, of course, my rational mind was saying 'of course, everyone dies. Everyone dies at some point.'), However, there was no rational evidence or fact that I could point to and say "see here it is. this is how I know." I find it hard to let my mind wander now, but in writing this I'm beginning to understand that this is a gift I need to accept, even if my "rational mind" wants it to be a load of cr@p.

Exactly. :)

It's not easy going but the fact that more are becoming aware of this is a good sign and something we can all work on. :)

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Hey Nerge, I get number 2 all the time. I've mentioned it to my family before now and my mother said when I was a very young child, say, 4 at the oldest, I complained when I couldn't get them to understand me and that I was "thinking it as loudly as I can" lol. I always had this sense of impatience that I had to take my thoughts and string them out into cumbersome, ungainly words. Oh, I loved words as a child but in the way an artist likes colours, not in the way a mechanic likes nuts and bolts; they were nice, they just were just pretty damn inefficient.

With regards the instant knowing: I sometimes enter this state of mind in which the world seems very small. When that happens, the world around me seems vibrant and energetic and should I have a gap in my knowledge that I need to fill, I can, in that state of mind, coax my mind into finding the information I need. Basically what happens is the 'I' behind my eyes steps back and views inside my head, and sees that inside my head is a cloud of information in an energetic form, but that this cloud is completely intermixed with a cloud of identical information-energy outside my head. The only distinction of the two being the walls of my skull. Then, the centre of my head starts worming a pink beam of light through this energetic cloud of information, snaking in one direction, twisting, etc., until it hits on something far off in the distance, then my mind brings the beam back through the course it took and as soon as the pink light is squarely within the centre of my head again, I have the knowledge I sent it out for in the first place.

When I was a kid, I entered one of these states for a few days accessed information which allowed me to design a method of water purification for sub-Saharan Africa in the form of a self-contained unit which used the heat of the sun as a power source, and also oriented itself through-out the day to maximise the gain from the sun. When the state wears off, I become very tired and sleep for around 24-hours. When I wake up, I can be in a comparative state of mind which is the opposite: I feel much less connected to the world, small, weak, vulnerable and ineffectual. The latter state normally means I destroy whatever I had worked on, but either way I never have the energy to implement them. The plans for that water purifier I designed as a child I still have somewhere, but in all these years I've just not been able to bring myself to do anything with them.

I say "Should I have a gap in my knowledge I need to fill"... it actually never works like that. When I get in that state of mind, whatever I would want to go for in my normal state doesn't matter and what I actually do get seems pretty random to me. It's like I get into that state for a purpose and I'm allowed to access my 'course materials' lol, and once I'm done that's it. It actually happens less and less these days, which I'm not too upset about because those times were to die for but the hangovers were murder lol.

That sounds pretty amazing, you should definitely try and go with the water purification idea, the more stuff that's out there to help people in need the better - hopefully more knowledge like this will soon be put to good use. :)

[minkton]

Yes! telepathy is sooo fast. It's a transmission, maybe we start of clunkily 'speaking' telepathically, but as you go along it becomes a 'surge' without any need for articulation.

The right side of the brain is language free. Entirely. It likes images, quite. And it knows everything!