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nf857

20th January 2012, 15:19

Im asking does anybody suffer with these illness? If not does one of your family suffer with them?

Do you always feel like there is nothing you can do about it? Do you now just survice of benefits/health insurance/welfare?

In my country they are now doing away with a system that helped anybody suffering with these illnesses, they are trying to get everybody who can't work, to work. They are putting most Job Seekers Allowance for 12 months, then if no suitable job can be found they are going to stop the benefit.

However what is more important for people to know at the time is all above illnesses are linked by a man-made pathogen, BIOLOGICAL WARFARE. I challenge anybody to do their own research into this, the biggest FINDING you will come accross, is all this illness are in the 'BRAIN' thereby affecting all other 'BODILY SYSTEMS' it is 'INVISIBLE ILLNESSES' that if you went & got an 'MRI/SPECTSCAN' would be proven.

However GOVERNMENT won't pay for this WHY? Because it would have to holds its hands up & admit 'ITS REAL' & 'ITS MAN-MADE' most people who have come to proove this have 'BEEN KILLED'.

I used to think 'NWO' could not possibly be real, i thought it was 'PROPAGANDA' trust me people it is 'NOT PROPAGANDA' it is 'REAL'.

The new government system will only now pay 'THOSE WHO ALREADY ARE DYING-TERMINALLY ILL'

those who are 'MENTIALLY HANDICAPPED' no use to the sytem, or those who have no arms and legs, no use to the system. All the descipters point to this, its sick when you have to 'BEAT THE SYSTEM' 'FIGHT THE SYSTEM' when they are supposed to be 'HELPING YOU'.

PEOPLE STAND UP FOR THIS IN ALL GOVERNMENT LEVELS, FIGHT THIS, FIGHT THE SYSTEM I BEG U ALL, for me it will NEVER BE GAME OVER, as they WOULD HAVE TO KILL ME.

I WILL FIGHT THIS TO THE END, I WILL MAKE SOMEBODY ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS, ALL PAPERWORK HAS A TRAIL, I WILL FOLLOW THAT TRAIL TO THE END, AS I HAVE SUFFERED ENOUGH BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO ME!!! X

13th Warrior

20th January 2012, 15:24

Listen here for information on treating these diseases with turmeric and stem cells:

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ROMANWKT

20th January 2012, 15:32

Hi nf857
Would you please tell us of your condition, how long have you had it and what is your daily diet.

regards to you
roman

nf857

20th January 2012, 19:35

Hi,

I have severe M.E./Fibromyalgia which affects all bodily functions, because of the linking pathogen-mutant cells replicating in my body and flooding all systems, most especially gorsel-root ganglia, stem cell research also prooves these findings, all research on M.E. proofs the overall top finding ive mentioned. When the brain is attacking itself & the rest of the body, you have no chance.

The government will not provide the anti-dote as we are all guenia pigs to them, they need to find out, which ones of us will die, which ones of us will be permanently debilited, which ones of us will be moderate, & be able to work at least part-time, this goes accross the board for all said illnesses.

Please dont think im paranoid, ive just WOKE UP is all, ive had this feeling for 8 years of suffering this strange,controversial, unexplainable, mystery, invisible illness, that doctors say they can't proove exists. I was diagnosed as having it 8 years ago. Its no wonder people are driven mad by all this, hundreds of people have committed suicide because of the disbeleif.

They note my systems as tiredness, anxiety, BULL**** REFLECTION!!!!

Tiredness does not even come close to what i fell everyday, nor does fatigue, however ALL EMCOMPASSING BODILY/ADRENAL/NEUROLOGICAL ORGANIC DISEASE DOES!!!

I feel like im dying, however im not, my body and mind have protrayed me. Im confined to my bed, not because of DEPRESSION, but because of the very REAL PHYSICAL ILLNESS that it is.

They dont acknowledge the other side of it either which is MUSCULAR/SKELETAL disorder, which trust me you never want to have to suffer, it is sheer agony, & i would rather GIVE BIRTH, than go through this PAIN everyday of my life

P.S Diet, my body doesnt eat very much, i struggle to eat or keep down food because of this illness, i used to weigh 9.5, now i weigh 7.4, classed as underweight, they dont look into that either as they think im anorexic which im not, i wish i COULD ENJOY MY FOOD AGAIN! x

chancy

20th January 2012, 20:13

Hi nf857:
Sorry to hear of your sickness. I am thinking that this documentary might be of help for your disease since it has helped so many people with various diseases.
It is called Max Gerson Therapy - Dying To Have Known - Full Length
Here is the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp8u3FWxh8Q

Health is number one on importance in life!
chancy

nf857

20th January 2012, 20:59

Hi Chany,

Thanks so much will take a look.

Nic x

TWINCANS

20th January 2012, 22:00

Hi there,
This is a disease you would not wish on your worst enemy! My husband suffered like you and now has pretty much beat it to the point that he can function normally (whatever that is!) 99% of the time. When he gets a 'bout' caused by a roaming virus then he's flat for a few days again.

But it took us abt 10 years of intensive work to do it. I took my Herbalist's Diploma to help him. He took lots of a high quality protein which we now sell so PM if you are interested. He also took a concoction of nutritional supplements etc. His/our food is mainly organic, no alcohol or anything, no pop, no garbage foods. He teaches tai chi, practises aikido with our daughter and does chi kung. He does 100 pushups a day to keep his body strong.

When he gets a 'bout' he plays computer games to compartmentalize the attacker in the brain. It works but it should be a platform or sports game requiring fast reactions. Avoid horrific visuals to minimize stress responses. Also he draws when he's not well - it seems to work a different area of the brain as well, so when he stops drawing he often feels more alert.

Also keep your chin up. It does seem that with LOTS of nutritional and strengthening work, the fungus/virus can be beaten into submission.

I hope this helps a bit.

Weirdly he's having a 'bout' now so he's playing FIFA12. He'll get on with you later if you want him to?

nf857

20th January 2012, 22:22

Hi Twincans,

Useful info, it would be great to find a cure for myself, i have certainly tried a lot already, 2 years ago i was able to exercise on the wii for 45 mins a day, & i took lots of rests periods throughout the day, also dong relaxiation techniques like meditation/yoa haitha breath help. Im thinking of going down the spiritual path of Budda when my benefits nightmare is over, im also wanting to get out of the area i live & start afresh, this will take a few years, but im envionishing a quiter life/pace to my existence just to return to some level of health as im in the 5% at the moment with extremly severe M.E., i know all above is true of this illness, so im just trying to now find the ANDIDOTE for myself lol, thanks everybody so much for all your advice im not going to stop fighting this, even if its from my own bed & my laptop x

Dawn

21st January 2012, 01:32

Hi nf857, I have had M.E. and fibromyalgia, arthritus, mersa, recurring UTIs for 20 years, Hepaitus, and cancer(believe it or not!) The operative word here is HAD. (I do not have them any more) I left western medicine for good at age 37 for curing these ills. (I was forced to continue to interact with this field (ie: western medicine) for another 9 years against my will, but that is another story.)

When I left behind the belief that they had any of my answers, or could cure me in any way, I began to find answers one after the other. Eventually I became a 'healer', which I have retired from recently. I am telling you all of this so you will have some idea of the background from which I speak.

Although you are laying all of this at the feet of the PTB, and perhaps rightly so, you will not be likely to heal until you step out of the victim role and begin to own your ability to make choices that heal. I had to do that, and eventually all clients I had needed to do it, in order to really experience wellness. I'll let you in on some simple all encompassing ways to correct everything you are dealing with.

Now, this is just a forum where people share ideas in writing, it doesn't replace going to a professional healer, because I don't have a direct interface with your body. Your body actually has the power to heal ALL of this, but you may need to learn to listen to it.

First Step: most autoimmune diseases (fibromyalgia, M.E. and so on) have at their root... PTSD. This has been documented and quite a bit of study done on it. So, one of the first steps you need is to find someone who can help you release this. There are some really good modalities out there as well as some who do not know what they are doing. Personally I had the most success with Somatic Experiencing, and eventually took a 3 year course to become a practitioner in it. Here is their website, they have practitioners all over the globe: http://www.traumahealing.com/ Other modalities that work include Hakome, rolfing (to some degree), the Heller method, and Rosen work. Talk therapy does NOT work, but makes the problem worse. With PTSD, illnesses show up 20-35 years after the traumatic incident... so the problem may have occurred when you were an infant.

Second Step: I would recommend you also treat the diseases themselves. For infections of every type perhaps the best solution is the Beck Method. It should cost you about $200-$250 to set yourself up with all the equipment you need for this. Every disease can be cured with this protocol within 8 weeks, except Herpes which takes 3 months. Google Bob Beck, and follow the links. My partner actually makes Beck devices, however I don't want to advertise them here on Avalon. Instead I found a good link for you which includes one of Beck's lectures on video: http://www.toolsforhealing.com/cd/Articles/B/BobBeck/BobBeckInfo.html

Although you can supposedly do this with MMS as well, I have personally found that it is REALLY hard to stick to his protocol. I actually stuck it out once for 4.5 months, and had to wear diapers everywhere I went, because I never knew what my body would do. I have put over 30 clients on his protocol, and NONE of them could stick it out, because of the diarrhea and vomiting that can be involved. If money is a problem for you, and you have a lot of personal fortitude, this might be the way to go. You should be able to get everything you need for this for between $20 and $30 for an entire year of self treatments. This doesn't count the cost of diapers or ruined clothes. Here's the website to begin to learn about this: http://jimhumble.biz/

Either one of the above protocols will eliminate every pathogen you have, including viruses, bacteria, protozoa, and parasites of every shape and form. I definitely prefer the Beck method myself.

Third Step: Meanwhile, you can also help yourself stay comfortable. ALL pain is caused by lack of oxygen, and/or dehydration, and/or lack of grounding.

For lack of oxygen the simple ways to help yourself are:

Dr. Wongs Essentials, Stabilized Oxygen: add a few drops to your water and your oxygen levels will soar to 99% within 5 minutes throughout your body
(http://www.totalityofbeing.com/)

For lack of water the best way I know to hydrate, is Dr. Patrick Flannagan's MEGA H+. Open one capsule and mix with a glass of water then take 2-3 capsules with this mixture. Any dehydration in your cells will be corrected in less than 15 minutes. All of us drink water, but often the cells will not absorb it, this corrects this condition.

For grounding. This is a WONDERFUL (!!!!!!) bit of info for anyone suffering from any kind of pain at all.... make sure you are in contact with the earth. There are many books, YouTube videos and web sites devoted to this that you will find a wealth of information if you Google 'Earthing'. Here is just one link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26HphzJmWKU Since we usually wear rubber soled shoes, live in homes raised off the ground, and sleep in ungrounded beds, this has become a very serious issue. If you don't earth yourself daily, the blood cells in your body will begin to stick together in clumps (called rouleux) and this means they can't get into the tiny capillaries to feed your cells. The end result of this is that your cells starve for oxygen and you feel pain. 100% of people who ground themselves loose ALL pain within 20 minutes to 1 hour! Sounds too simple to be true but it is! I use a grounded marble slab under my desk, sleep on a grounding pad wrapped around my mattress, and wear a heal wrap on my shoe made from conductive rubber. You can get these things in many places. I got mine from http://www.lessemf.com/

Summary: Well, that is a simple cooks version to help you. There are other issues, such as moving away from all grains and sugars because they are inflammatory, using special devices to remove EMFs from the electrical wiring in your home (stetzerfilters http://www.dirtyelectricity.ca/stetzer_filters.htm), getting adequate iodine and sulfur and other minerals, yada, yada, yada. These you can get help with from a good healer or natureopath.

I got well completely, you can too.

Houman

21st January 2012, 06:24

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read "there are no incurable diseases" at https://herbdocblog.com/books-dvds/ as to why and how...

Houman

Im asking does anybody suffer with these illness? If not does one of your family suffer with them?

Do you always feel like there is nothing you can do about it? Do you now just survice of benefits/health insurance/welfare?

In my country they are now doing away with a system that helped anybody suffering with these illnesses, they are trying to get everybody who can't work, to work. They are putting most Job Seekers Allowance for 12 months, then if no suitable job can be found they are going to stop the benefit.

However what is more important for people to know at the time is all above illnesses are linked by a man-made pathogen, BIOLOGICAL WARFARE. I challenge anybody to do their own research into this, the biggest FINDING you will come accross, is all this illness are in the 'BRAIN' thereby affecting all other 'BODILY SYSTEMS' it is 'INVISIBLE ILLNESSES' that if you went & got an 'MRI/SPECTSCAN' would be proven.

However GOVERNMENT won't pay for this WHY? Because it would have to holds its hands up & admit 'ITS REAL' & 'ITS MAN-MADE' most people who have come to proove this have 'BEEN KILLED'.

I used to think 'NWO' could not possibly be real, i thought it was 'PROPAGANDA' trust me people it is 'NOT PROPAGANDA' it is 'REAL'.

The new government system will only now pay 'THOSE WHO ALREADY ARE DYING-TERMINALLY ILL'

those who are 'MENTIALLY HANDICAPPED' no use to the sytem, or those who have no arms and legs, no use to the system. All the descipters point to this, its sick when you have to 'BEAT THE SYSTEM' 'FIGHT THE SYSTEM' when they are supposed to be 'HELPING YOU'.

PEOPLE STAND UP FOR THIS IN ALL GOVERNMENT LEVELS, FIGHT THIS, FIGHT THE SYSTEM I BEG U ALL, for me it will NEVER BE GAME OVER, as they WOULD HAVE TO KILL ME.

I WILL FIGHT THIS TO THE END, I WILL MAKE SOMEBODY ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS, ALL PAPERWORK HAS A TRAIL, I WILL FOLLOW THAT TRAIL TO THE END, AS I HAVE SUFFERED ENOUGH BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO ME!!! X

fathertedsmate

21st January 2012, 10:23

hi nf87, i started of with,ptsd,combat,stress,asthma,athritis,fibromialgya, those and many more were diagnosed over last 10 yrs, that was untill i took controll of my own health,just over a year ago,
i then discoverd i was full of heavy metals,chelation treatment was carried out for a month prior to metals in mouth being taken out,then i run out of money,this forced the issue i was desperate,so i gave mms a go,the effectiveness of mms was proved after using it for 4 wks then got a second test done mineral analyses DMP challenge, the doctor was in shock,he had never seen the ammount of metals dissapearing in such a short space of time and was wanting to know what i was using,his treatment was to take 18 months, mercury was down from 35mcg/l to 1.75,
i have continued since that point, all was about taking metals out and replacing minerals,vitamines and essential oils,
combinations of,marajuana,hempseed oil,vitamine c, transdermal magnesium therapy, iodine,applied transdermally,kefir,clay,mms, mms 2, and baking soda,have been used,
whilst metals were the main target,i have observed masses of calcium/plaque, taken out from inside,followed by calcium being taken out from hips,knees and feet, over the last 6 wks,calcium is being dissolved from my finger joints,most are now straight and calcium free
all ailments are gone,my eyes are now without glasses,tinnitus has nearly gone, have lost 3st in weight,most of this was down to removing,Parasites,pathogens,chemicals,toxins,yeast fungus,mould and heavy metals
most of this was done in front of psycologists and doctor, who wont accept what i have done, and was discharged from combatt stress for proving what ptsd,gulf war syndrom ets was,my doctor is now my x,he wont listen,the veterans agencys dont want to know,
what i learned from that period was,never to allow another human being,have any effect on my emotions,, the system is designed to send you over the edge,dont fight it,get even,repair yourself,then deal with them when better

ROMANWKT

21st January 2012, 12:38

I wrote this about 6 years ago when I was heavily involved, as I found out my sister had ovarian cancer, which was cured, and there are no signs of cancer in her blood to this day

Cure Autoimmune disorders

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT MEDICAL BREAKTHROUGH IT’S YOUR RIGHT TO KNOW.

For the last 100 years scientists have been aware that cells need to communicate and identify
themselves - the only problem was they didn't know what mechanisms were used. Many top
scientists have spent years trying to find out how things worked and most 'experts' believed that
proteins were the principal mechanism.

As with most of the important discoveries they happened by chance. In 1981 a scientist
working for a pharmaceutical (drug) company made a breakthrough that in the following 15
years would change the way scientists all over the world looked at this whole area of cellular
identification. Every cell in every plant and animal communicates/identifies itself by a very
special code made up of simple biologically active sugars (monosaccharides). He inadvertently
found how the body heals itself, and that was by information being passed from the cells to the
genes, then to your dna.

This field of science has already been the subject of at least 4 Nobel prizes and we anticipate
many more in the years to come. These awards do not occur when the breakthrough is made but
often 20 or 30 years later. So don't expect to hear about this in the news now - if you decide to
join us and work with us you will be at the start of a new chapter in biochemistry and in
particular the early stages of the turn away from pharmaceutical drugs and back to natural but
scientifically proven compounds.

THE STORY

When this scientist report was published, the whole pharmaceutical world got very excited and
started a worldwide race. What excited them was not so much how the body heals itself, but by
what means did the cell talk to the genes, and then talk with the dna?

The race was on and nobody was getting the answers, until one small company saw for the first
time a single human cell close up through an electron microscope in 1994. This was a new
device, and the image was electronic, they could see it by spraying the human cell with
extremely fine gold dust.

Something did not look right as they were looking at the electronic picture. They knew that the
body is made up of 75% water and the rest bone. They thought the cells would look like tiny
balloons full of fluid, but what they saw they did not recognise.

After close study they could only describe the cell looking like a round sweet that a child
dropped on the carpet that was found a week later all trodden in, then you would pull it out, and
it looks like a hairy ball.

After studying this hairy ball, they were amazed that these hairs looked like molecules, and
after further study the conclusion was that they were molecules, but different from each other,
and so after further study, they had now recognised that there were 8 different type of
molecules.
A year later a second amazing find was baffling the small company. They found that those 8
molecules were sugar, which totally knocked them sideways as we are always told through the
Medical Institutions that the body only uses sugar for energy, and so does all of life in nature.

There are over 200 known sugars in nature, but these 8 were different as they were non-
glycaemic ( would not affect a diabetic ) and seemed to be used by the cells only. It dawned on
them that these sugar molecules, known as mono-saccharides (simple sugars) must be used by
the cell for communicating.

It took some time, but one by one they started to identify these sugars by their proper names,
and from where these sugars were derived from.
Here are their names,

GALACTOSE
GLUCOSE
FUCOSE
MANNOSE
XYLOSE
N-NEURAMINIC-ACID
N-ACETYL-GLUCOSAMINE
N-ACETYL-GALACTOSAMINE

SO HERE IS A MEDICAL BREAKTHROUGH

IF THE DNA IS THE KEY TO LIFE AND A
BLUEPRINT OF WHO YOU ARE...

THEN THE OPERATING PROGRAM OF THE HUMAN BODY HAD JUST BEEN
FOUND.

What does that mean? It means that by using these 8 sugars for communicating, a damaged cell
would pass information to your genes and then to your blueprint of who you are - the DNA.
The instruction would be passed to have that cell replaced according to your blueprint.

The whole of the alphabet can be tapped by the Morse code by dots and dashes and the
software operation of a computer is run by a binary language of on's and off's, so with different
combination of these 8 sugars, the instruction runs into millions of bits of information that
keeps the body in check with the blueprint, the DNA..

They found that all communicating was done by touch, and that all the messages were
transmitted between the cells by these sugars.

Well what other purpose would that have?

HOW ON EARTH CAN YOU CARRY A CANCER FOR 10 TO 15 YEARS AND YOUR
BODY KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT IT, YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT
AND WHEN IT SHOWS UP, ITS 90% THERE AND YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR YOUR
LIFE?
HOW COME THE BODY DID NOT KNOW OR DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?
BECAUSE YOUR CELLS ARE NOT COMMUNICATING

Are you beginning to see the importance of this breakthrough?

They found that when you are communicating properly, your immune system is strong and
high, but when your cellular communication was poor, your immune system is low, and left
you in a dangerous and open position. Your body is easily attacked and vulnerable from outside
sources and from internal mismanagement.

If you went down to the sewer where there is human waste, you will find that when the waste is
separated, the residue left behind is a mass of vitamins that people have taken. These were
unsuccessfully absorbed into the body, some possibly because of low purity, but mostly they
were rejected by the body. The body will not accept what it does not recognise, your
communication is poor. You can make bricks and build a wall from the matter that people
bodies have rejected in that sewer.

Women suffering from osteoporosis have a problem with the absorption of calcium. Again the
body will reject what it does not recognise, no matter how much calcium one takes. Billions of
pounds are wasted by people, believing that they are benefiting from vitamins. The answer
would be yes they are, but only if they are communicating, and we now know for a fact that
they are not.

An average person would produce between 100 to 200 billion cells each day from their factory,
the hips, and the same amount of dead cells are removed by the body daily when you go to the
toilet.

Imagine producing billions upon billions of cells weekly with poor communication, your
immune system becomes weaker and weaker. After months and years of this, a weakness
somewhere in your body starts to produce an out of control growth of cells that have no
instructions, and they just keep on growing, you have a cancer.

The second biggest destroyer is your immune system. You had a virus, or an infection, you had
enough communication to activate your antibodies. Your immune system seems to be working,
after a few days you feel fine, and all is in order, or is it? Have the antibodies been switched off,
they were switched on, are they off?

As time goes on your un-switched antibodies go on a rampage and start to attack your body, it
starts to attack itself. They start to attack your joints, and that's called arthritis. They start to
dissolve the fatty lining on the cells of your nervous system, that's multiple sclerosis or MS for
short. They start attacking your pancreas, that's called diabetes. There are over 80 known forms
of auto-immune disorder, its destroying lives everywhere, from the very young to the old.

ARE YOU ON, OR ARE YOU OFF?

THE ONLY THING THAT KNOWS IF YOU ARE ON OR OFF IS YOUR BODY.
ARE YOU COMMUNICATING? IF YOU ARE, THEN YOU ARE OFF.
IF YOU ARE NOT COMMUNICATING PROPERLY, THEN YOU ARE STILL ON.
We now know that it takes 8 sugars to establish cell to cell communication. We now know that
the combination of 8 sugars leads to millions of possible instructions. So how do we know
which 1 of the 8 in the on or off? The answer to this is simple, nobody knows.
So why do people shove off the counter so called medicines from a chemist down their throats
being told that it will make them better, when that could be turning things ON instead of OFF?
Only by making sure that you are getting 8 of these essential sugars will you know that you are
in check or balance, only your body knows, and only when it is communicating properly.

What happens when............

YOU ARE ON WHEN YOU SHOULD BE OFF.
OR OFF WHEN YOU SHOULD BE ON

Here's a list of what's coming.

All of these conditions listed below are either manifestations of
* Incorrect communication
* Symptoms of impaired communication
* or cause incorrect communication

ADD/ADHD
Dust
Yeast
Athletic Performance
Addiction
Environmental
Alzheimer's
Quick Muscle Recovery
Adrenal Gland Failure
Food
Als-Lou Gehrigs Disease
Autism
Aging
Grass
Angina
Auto Immune Disorders
AIDS/HIV
Pollen
Anxiety
Back
Allergies
Hay Fever
Arthritis
Bacterial Infection
Animals
Seasonal
Asthma
Bi-Polar Disorder
Bladder
Body
Bones
Bone Density
Brain-Function Disorder
Breasts
Bronchitis
Bulimia
Cancer
Candida Infection
Carpal Tunnel
Cellular Death
Cerebral Palsy
Chemical Hypersensitivity
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS)
Crohn's Disease
Cystic Fibrosis
Dental Health
Depression
Degenerative Disease
Degenerative Discs
Diabetes
Down Syndrome
Earaches
Eating Disorders
Energy
Epilepsy
Fatigue
Fibroids
Fibromyalgia
Foot conditions
Gestational Diabetes
Genetic Disorders
Glaucoma
Glomerulonephrtis
Grand Mal Seizures
Gulf War Syndrome
Heart Disease
Hepatitis B & C
Herpes/Cold Sores
High Blood Pressure
High Cholesterol
Hives
Hormonal Imbalance
Hypoadrenalism
Hypoglycaemia
Hysterectomy
Immune System
Infections
Insomnia
Injuries
Lactose Intolerance
Leukaemia
Lupus
Lyme Disease
Macular Degeneration
Manic Depression
Marfan's Dyndrome
Menopause
Metabolic Disorder
Metastatic-Breast Cancer
Multiple Sclerosis (MS)
Muscular Dystrophy (FSH)
Neurological Disorders
Obesity
Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder
Osteoarthritis
Oral Thrush
Pain
Parkinson's Disease
Pericarditis (Fluid on the Heart)
Peripheral Neuropathy
PMS
Post Polio Fatigue
Pemphigus Vulgaris
Pneumonia
Poor Circulation
Prostate Cancer
Raynauds Syndrome
Bladder Infections
Arthritis
Schizophrenia
Sinus Infection
Spinal Cancer
Strep Throat
Stroke
Suppressed Immune System
Tennis Elbow
Transient Ischemic Attack (TIA)
Tourette's Syndrome
Tuberculosis
Ulcers
Vertigo
Viruses
Vasculitis

AND THAT'S STILL NOT ALL OF THE CONDITIONS, THERE ARE MORE.

These sugars are sugar proteins, and are now known worldwide as GLYCO NUTRIENTS.

Scientists found that your cells, genes, and dna are all coated with these sugars, and that these
sugars came from your fruit and vegetables. They are nutritional (i.e. FOOD).

So what does this mean? It means that your, primary food is fruit and vegetables fruit and
vegetables, fruit and vegetables. Yes we need meat and fish for easy proteins and amino acids,
but its fruit and vegetables, fruit and vegetables, fruit and vegetables..........

Then comes another amazing blow. When they checked the fruit and vegetables for the content
of these sugars, they found only 2 sugars in appreciable amounts; the other 6 sugars were
almost non-existent.

The 2 main sugars available in reasonable amounts were Glucose, which makes fruit taste
sweet, a natural sugar in all things and Galactose. Galactose principally comes from milk and
dairy produce. However, about 50% of people are lactose intolerant because they are missing
the enzyme lactase. So half the population only gets 1 of the 8 vital sugars in any quantity.

There is strong evidence to suggest that as little as 50 years ago our diets were significantly
different and there is every reason to believe that we were getting 4 or 5 out of the 8 vital sugars
in reasonable amounts in our diets. That meant that the missing ones could be converted from
the ones we had.

The reason why people eat well and are still producing bodily disorders is that,

WE HARVEST GREEN UNRIPE FRUIT AND VEGETABLES.
WE DID THIS, WE CREATED THE PROBLEM.

Harvesting fruit and vegetables before they are ripe is a major problem because it's only in the
last few days of the ripening process that the plant puts the real nutrients into the fruit or
vegetable.

You go to the supermarket and you buy fruit and vegetables which often have been harvested
green for their journey half-way around the world, and then left lying in a box for two weeks so
as to 'ripen'. They are then brought out to the store and "here you are madam - fresh fruit and
vegetables."

THIS STUFF IS NUTRITIONALLY empty.

AND SO IS THE ORGANIC STUFF, BECAUSE THEY DO THE SAME THING, AND IT'S
ONLY Marginally BETTER THEN THE NON-ORGANIC STUFF, OTHER THAN ITS
SUPPOSED TO BE LESS TOXIC.

They are all Green Harvested for exporting and importing and this has created major medical
problems for peoples' health worldwide.
Go back 40 to 50 years - did you ever hear people suffer from such horrendous diseases as they
do now?
Was cancer as rife as it is today? The answer is NO.

Was the number of children being diagnosed as obese and with diabetes approaching epidemic
proportions? The answer is NO.

Were many children suffering from ADD, ADHD, Dyspraxia and Autism? The answer is NO.

So what was different? Well the answer to that is simple - all your food was grown locally and
harvested ripe for people to buy and eat, and you only got what was in season.

NOW GO OUT THERE, WHEREVER THAT IS, AND FIND ME SOME FRESH, RIPE,
FRUIT AND VEGETABLES THAT WERE PICKED A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO?

You have to think about it - has our health improved with modern times?

The very people that we have trusted for the last 70 years with our health are now the very ones
that are behaving like ostriches. The medical profession have been so pressured into the
pharmaceutical way of thinking that they have ignored and dismissed the very importance of
good nutrition.

Did you know that the Government knows about this? Did they tell the people? WHY NOT?

Did you know that the NHS knows about this? Have they told you? WHY NOT?

Do you know that the BMA and General Medical Council were aware of this breakthrough in
1999 and yet have done nothing positive with it? WHY NOT?

Have your doctors told you about this? WHY NOT?

Have you read in the papers about this fantastic breakthrough? WHY NOT?

It all stinks to high heaven with vested interest. MONEY.

Did you know that the pharmaceutical companies invest billions all around the world and here
in England? If the pharmaceutical companies took away their financial support from medical
schools then they would cease to exist almost overnight.

They train doctors and nurses on how to use their products which keeps our caring and sharing
government from paying for properly trained people who would know about this major
breakthrough. They are kept dumb by the large pharmaceutical companies because they have
no rights to this find, so there is no profit in it for them, and they would rather see you dead
than tell you about it.

It is known that they are working on a synthetic form of these sugars and when they do manage
this THE WHOLE WORLD WILL KNOW. Meantime people are dying, nobody knows,
nobody tells.
WHAT A WORLD WE LIVE IN.

The whole of human races cells will divide 50 to 52 times after which your regeneration
process stops and you will slowly disintegrate and die.

THIS REGENERATION PROCESS CAN TAKE YOUR LIFE TO OVER 100 YEARS IF
YOU TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. You can shorten your life span by not taking care of
yourself which causes the division process to speed up to sustain life and you age and die
prematurely.

You can only heal while you are generating new cells, and as you get older the process slows
down, and healing takes longer. With children and teenagers the healing process is very fast if
they are healthy and communicating.

Your blood will be replaced approximately every 3 months, which means that the healing
process is faster the fresher the blood, if you are communicating well. Most of your skin cells
will regenerate within 28 days, deeper muscle tissues take about 3 months.

Most of your organ's cell replacement take 4 to 5 years, and your bones can take 7 years for the
cells to replace, and up to 9 years for your long bones.

The whole process of healing is done cell by cell, and that takes time. If your body is in a
chronic state with disease, death can occur before the body had a chance to repair - it takes
time.

The conclusion is that the body was NOT designed to get itself into a chronic state of illness,
and all things necessary for it have been supplied in nature to keep it from such state. Medicines
can stop, or delay, the process of death by a chronic or acute illness but will hardly ever cure
the core cause of the disease.

Only your blueprint, your DNA at the heart of every cell, knows what your disorder is, and it's
only that which can restore your body to full health.

It has been found that by the time we reach middle age we have already developed a variety of
conditions that will be responsible for our death in later years.

All these diseases and disorders can be avoided by making sure that we have these 8 necessary
sugars in our diets. If a symptom has already developed we can, in most cases, see remarkable
transformations over time as the cells start to communicate properly.

There are 4 basic necessary avenues that we have to oversee with 3 Nutrients that will sustain
good health & communication;
* Identify
* Protect & Repair
* Regulate
GLYCONUTRIENTS - identify: They are the 8 sugars that the body uses as tools for
communication or identification. They also support the body's ability to produce the most
potent antioxidant that you could lay your hands on. Monosaccharides are best derived from
food and eaten as food. Some monosaccharides, if we ate them in their final form would be
destroyed by the acidity in the stomach.

PHYTOCHEMICALS - Protect & Repair: They are made from fully ripe fruit and vegetables,
which are extremely high in antioxidants, cleanse the body throughout, and are extremely
important for your immunity.
PLANT STEROL - Regulate: The hormonal or endocrine system is what regulates everything
about your body. There are 600 varieties of Mexican yam but only 6 have a very special
compound called Dioscorea. Dioscorea has the highest amount of plant sterols of almost any
plant. You have 88 hormones in your body controlling every thing about you; your moods, your
blood temperature, all your bodily functions are all controlled by these hormones.

Medicines, steroids, and life's stresses throw your hormones out of balance which will affect
the way your are. It will affect your metabolism, which will affect your health.

Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) is the most widely sold pharmaceutical drug in the
world. What would it be worth to know that you can help your own body to produce the
missing hormones and hence have no need of drugs or their side effects? like cancer.

It must be understood that GLYCONUTRIENTS, PHYTOCHEMICALS, and PLANT
STEROLS, CANNOT and WILL NOT cure you of anything. They are ONLY THE TOOLS
that your body needs and requires to heal itself. Only the body heals, always. There are no
miracle cures, there are no wonder drugs, there are only deficiencies of the tools that your body
needs in your diet. Put the tools back into your diet and the body has the communication with
your blueprint to give instructions with the tools given to heal itself.

As I have said before, and I will say it again, the products are absolutely vital, for every man
woman and child. With the modern ways of producing food which leave all of us deficient,
what we have here is PRICELESS

THIS IS SUBMITTED TO YOU AS FACTUAL INFORMATION AND REQUIRES YOU
TO UNDERSTAND AND RE-EXAMINE YOUR APPROACH TO YOUR FAMILY'S
HEALTH.

Just an add on. I know of MMS I have it. But as good as MMS is, I does not CURE the problem.

Regards to all
Roman.

nf857

21st January 2012, 17:17

Hi Roman,

Thanks for posting this again i thought you were at risk with this lol, proof we all un-witting subjects to this, i will definitly be looking into other treatments when this benefit nightmare is over, at the moment my energies are going into my appeal, & getting as much as i can to build my case, emailing MP'S/ writing letters to GPS/Practice Managers.

Thanks to everybody, i do not have have energy to reply to you all due to the enormity of what im faced with everday & living with a now extremly severe illness. I used to b moderate & have more mobility, now because of this new system, im bedbound, so will be making people accountable in anyway shape or form i can. One of the most important things a person should know about having my condition, is no activity should be forced on a person, so it seems sick ive been deemed to work, when a miracle for me is I can do a small amount of activity ie draw for half an hour is a big accomplishment for me.

Its funny how if people have cancer and climb mount everest they are seen as hereos, however my mountain is just being able to get out of bed everyday for a while, yet im not treated as a hereo, for not giving up.

Its so easy to see why people do give up, not for the want of trying, trying and trying, giving everything thing they have got to get help, to get treatments, get their ilness recognised, only for other people knock them down again.& make them ill in the process. Tiredness does not even come into having M.E., yet they keep labelling it as such, also with this misdiagnosis of C.F.S. I have M.E., that is clear to me, why not the GPS? I would say for the moderate/mild ill they have C.F.S., M.E. is what leaves somebody bedbound!!!

I dont beleive mild M.E. acutally exisis, just misdiagnoses, as it falls into the umbrella terms of case definitions!

They have no bloody clues at all, all they see is more and more reasons as to whats going on in the bodies, yet no new diagnoses. C.F.S is confused with the medical outbreaks that happened years ago. This has nothing to do with M.E. If C.F.S was an outbreak in 1955, what has this to do with people now? Nothing they have just found its very similar in nature in some respects to C.F.S, however not M.E. , where lots more is going wrong in the body.

I think the mother whos daughter died of M.E. will be outraged right now, & whats happening for people with M.E. Also for other people as severely affected that we know of.

They are incompetant & dealing with M.E. itself these new ATOS private healthcare people, & we know how its CORRUPTION & its biggers levels.

A healthcare proffesional working there has spokeout, saying it was not about assessing the sick, but pushing the sick into work. She had set targets/percentages of people she had to put into this new grouping, & also how many people she had to get through in a day, even though so might need far more time than others, & was told she was being too soft and putting too many people in the Support Group, which is the group severly debilitied/sick should go into.

Its sick, makes me feel so ill. If healthcare proffesional can no longer do their jobs because their strings are being pulled by set targets/percentages etc we are all stuffed!!! x

fathertedsmate

21st January 2012, 17:23

Arrowwind

21st January 2012, 17:38

MMS can cure a problem if the terrain is returned to normal after the MMS detox is complete. Toxins cause many diseases from our polluted environment. If the toxins or disease has damaged the terrain then more work must be done to restore the terrain.

If the terrain is damaged and causing the disease then MMS cannot fully cure but can alleviate the condition and restore enough of balance and strength to continue on repairing the terrain. Restoration of proper diet and nutrition and gut flora is is essential along with emotional balance.

It all depends on how deep the disease is and its cause and what kind of damage the disease may have caused.

ROMANWKT

21st January 2012, 17:48

Hi Roman,

Thanks for posting this again i thought you were at risk with this lol, proof we all un-witting subjects to this, i will definitly be looking into other treatments when this benefit nightmare is over, at the moment my energies are going into my appeal, & getting as much as i can to build my case, emailing MP'S/ writing letters to GPS/Practice Managers.

Thanks to everybody, i do not have have energy to reply to you all due to the enormity of what im faced with everday & living with a now extremly severe illness. I used to b moderate & have more mobility, now because of this new system, im bedbound, so will be making people accountable in anyway shape or form i can. One of the most important things a person should know about having my condition, is no activity should be forced on a person, so it seems sick ive been deemed to work, when a miracle for me is I can do a small amount of activity ie draw for half an hour is a big accomplishment for me.

Its funny how if people have cancer and climb mount everest they are seen as hereos, however my mountain is just being able to get out of bed everyday for a while, yet im not treated as a hereo, for not giving up.

Its so easy to see why people do give up, not for the want of trying, trying and trying, giving everything thing they have got to get help, to get treatments, get their ilness recognised, only for other people knock them down again.& make them ill in the process. Tiredness does not even come into having M.E., yet they keep labelling it as such, also with this misdiagnosis of C.F.S. I have M.E., that is clear to me, why not the GPS? I would say for the moderate/mild ill they have C.F.S., M.E. is what leaves somebody bedbound!!!

I dont beleive mild M.E. acutally exisis, just misdiagnoses, as it falls into the umbrella terms of case definitions!

They have no bloody clues at all, all they see is more and more reasons as to whats going on in the bodies, yet no new diagnoses. C.F.S is confused with the medical outbreaks that happened years ago. This has nothing to do with M.E. If C.F.S was an outbreak in 1955, what has this to do with people now? Nothing they have just found its very similar in nature in some respects to C.F.S, however not M.E. , where lots more is going wrong in the body.

I think the mother whos daughter died of M.E. will be outraged right now, & whats happening for people with M.E. Also for other people as severely affected that we know of.

They are incompetant & dealing with M.E. itself these new ATOS private healthcare people, & we know how its CORRUPTION & its biggers levels.

A healthcare proffesional working there has spokeout, saying it was not about assessing the sick, but pushing the sick into work. She had set targets/percentages of people she had to put into this new grouping, & also how many people she had to get through in a day, even though so might need far more time than others, & was told she was being too soft and putting too many people in the Support Group, which is the group severly debilitied/sick should go into.

Its sick, makes me feel so ill. If healthcare professional can no longer do their jobs because their strings are being pulled by set targets/percentages etc we are all stuffed!!! x

I understand what you are saying, but please don't leave it at that and wait, please find all sugar derivatives on the web site when you can, then get in touch, screw the government, they is going to be such a backlash soon that they wont know what hit them.

I have put the info back here, but don't mention the company, read your email I had sent you.

regards and take care
roman

ROMANWKT

21st January 2012, 17:56

MMS is not there to cure the problem,romanov, only the body and mind can do that,however they require the right tools to do the job,we are electrical first and biochemistry second, heavy metals mess up the electrical system,chemicals the biological system,all interfear with the frequency the organs are operating at, the end result will be an acidic body, exactly where the medical proffesion require you,

That is correct MMS is not a cure for cancer, but will get rid of it, then you have to heal the reason for the occurrence of cancer, which means reestablish cellular communication with DNA the blue print. daily production of billions of cells with no instruction promotes growths and cancers

regards to you
roman

nf857

21st January 2012, 19:53

Thanks Romanwkt,

However im very severly ill at the moment, i will re-read your document, i dont recall seeing any company name? Have sent you an email back with some more questions? As i dont think i could afford the treatments, right now, but will certainly be looking into them, when im better financially. I hope to move house/downsize considerably as i think would help my condition a lot.

Nic x

Dawn

21st January 2012, 20:36

nf857: Its sick, makes me feel so ill. If healthcare proffesional can no longer do their jobs because their strings are being pulled by set targets/percentages etc we are all stuffed!!! x

This is not true! We are not all stuffed! We need to STOP relegating our responsibility for our health to modern medicine. It is really that simple. The tools for self healing are all around you. The information is on how to heal yourself is everywhere. The reason most cannot see it is that they have been programmed (brainwashed) to believe that health comes from a healthcare professional. There really is no problem here, you just need to take a different route.

Start with something simple, like some of the ideas mentioned in several of the posts. I know you are exhausted, but you have enough energy to go outside in the spring sunshine and lay down somewhere on the earth while allowing the sun to fill your cells. Try asking someone to make fresh vegetable juice for you. There are several products out there that target glyconutrients, find them and take them (PXP, Full-Spectrum Essential Sugars Complex from www.Swansonvitamins.com, etc).

Yes, the 'healthcare' profession is all about making money and should be called 'deathcare' profession, because they are in the business of creating illness and charging to numb it out for you. Now, just let go of the idea that they have any effect what so ever on you, and move into a place of self responsibility. Decide to have health, decide to find health, decide to discover your next step.

A couple us on this thread, including me, have told you that we made this journey. However no one but you can decide to find your path to health.

There is actually an archetype in consciousness called 'The Wounded Healer'. I'm pretty sure you've heard of this. It means that many many of us have gone through what you are experiencing. We made it out and back into health, and now we have the ability to 'heal others' in various ways. This includes the information we learned along the way, which we all give to others freely.

The journey is wonderful, but you are the only one who can take it. Step into your own power.

The 'healthcare' workers are not evil, they are just on their own path. Many have their head in the sand and pretend they do not know what is happening. Many know what they are doing, but just want the money they can glean anyway. And, behind it all are the pharmaceutical companies, who seem to be actually evil. None of this is your concern now. You got out of their net while still alive. Now you are free to take a different path. We did it, you can do it too.

nf857

21st January 2012, 20:51

Start with something simple, like some of the ideas mentioned in several of the posts. I know you are exhausted, but you have enough energy to go outside in the spring sunshine and lay down somewhere on the earth while allowing the sun to fill your cells. Try asking someone to make fresh vegetable juice for you. There are several products out there that target glyconutrients, find them and take them (PXP, Full-Spectrum Essential Sugars Complex from www.Swansonvitamins.com, etc).

No i dont actually im confined to my bed at the moment, however i may get well enough in the future again, if/when there is a sunny day.

All your suggestions are a mindfield right now, although i appreciate them. I can only start 1 at a time, when im well enought to start going down these other routes. Right now im fighting for my financial benefits so this is taking most of my energy up, then i want to move, which is going to take up all my finances for the forseeable future. So perhaps i will put up a post again when im well enough for all this.

P.S Thanks again, yes ive heard of the wounded warrior, im certainly a warrior for sure lol, it makes sense to me, please dont think im being unappreciative of your support right now, I ask you to email me, send me info via email rather than on here, as this is all things i can keep in my records, & when the time is right for me i can take your hands lol x

grapevine

21st January 2012, 21:14

nf857

21st January 2012, 22:27

My daughter, who is unemployed but doesn't want to be, went to the Jobcentre yesterday and saw "apprenticeship" opportunities for an Office Junior where SHE would have to pay THEM £2,000 for the opportunity to be a go-fer. Some companies are using the current economic downturn to make a few bucks . . . bloody disgraceful imo . .

I know i hope nobody falls for these CON-ARTISTS......they are SCUM!

Fortunatly for most people can't afford to be CONNED lol!

However this brings me to another side of the coin, thousands of peoples have lost their jobs in this country due to employing immigrants to do their jobs instead EQUAL OPPORTUNITYS, it is not OUR problem the GOVERNMENT decided to LET THEM IN, why are we the ones to SUFFER!!!

You can understand why PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS, THAT WERE WELL PAID, GOOD JOBS, wont take JOB OFFERS at a MINIMAL WAGE, we are BEING TURNED INTO SLAVES, however maybe THIS IS KARMA, WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND.

Funny how the ones that CREATED THIS KARMA arnt the ONES TO SUFFER, ah well when they come BACK AS FLIES IN OUR NEXT LIFES WE CAN ALL SWAT THEM, AS THEY WILL BE KARMA LAWS lol!!! x

CeltMan

21st January 2012, 23:28

Dawn, & FatherTedsMate,

IMO, a personal experience is worth a thousand books, or theories.

So, your experiences are IMO worth listening to.

Dawn, re 'Finding a healer', a great idea.
Here in UK, we have the NFSH (National Federation of Spiritual Healers) which is the official recognised healing body.
They have 45 centers throughout the UK, so everyone (Brit) in need should be able to access one near them.

Many yers ago, I learned a valuable lesson re 'heaing'. "To be most effective, the patient needs to commit to going to see a healer."
I did just that, driving in agony, a 40 mile round trip, when turning my neck was excruitating. 'Belladona' was the immediate answer, alleviating intense pain from 'trapped nerves'-due to a bad fall down a 7ft ditch, which had dislodged my spine/coxyx. One leg was 1.5 inches longer than other.

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Romanwkt.

Interesting observations.
I also tend to agree re the fact that 50- years ago most people's diets in UK were far superior. One bought fresh produce locally, as one needed it.
Nowadays you would be pushed to find local greengrocer shops.

I asume from your knowledge that you are a biochemist/microbiologist?

You would have some interesting conversations with my older brother. He is a senior microbiologist. But he has zero tollerence for any 'Alternative Health practices'(Unfortunately)

For myself, after many years studying Alternative Health, etc, I have concluded that it is often a balance between 'cause & effect'

An individual's DNA can also be a cause, (not to mention, any actual tampering that may have ocurred?!)
One's lifestyle, diet, mindset, sensitivity, etc are also factors.

Also, that from a personal perspective, the affects of 'Prolonged Stress' on an individual are not to be underestimated.

I also empathise with the 'many dizzying and confusing choices' that one is faced with as potential cures.

Connecting with Sauce

19th February 2012, 01:44

Dawn, & FatherTedsMate,

IMO, a personal experience is worth a thousand books, or theories.

So, your experiences are IMO worth listening to.

Dawn, re 'Finding a healer', a great idea.
Here in UK, we have the NFSH (National Federation of Spiritual Healers) which is the official recognised healing body.
They have 45 centers throughout the UK, so everyone (Brit) in need should be able to access one near them.

Many yers ago, I learned a valuable lesson re 'heaing'. "To be most effective, the patient needs to commit to going to see a healer."
I did just that, driving in agony, a 40 mile round trip, when turning my neck was excruitating. 'Belladona' was the immediate answer, alleviating intense pain from 'trapped nerves'-due to a bad fall down a 7ft ditch, which had dislodged my spine/coxyx. One leg was 1.5 inches longer than other.

The other thing to consider is that some healers, like Dawn and others can do distant healing so travel may not be needed for someone who is bed ridden. The point where a patient requests healing or asks for it, is usually the starting point for their healing to start... This is usually the point where they start to realise there is more to them than just then, if that makes sence... Usually a sign their higher self is starting to get connected or that they are starting to connect to source.

My Mum is currently doing a healing course with NFSH and it takes 2 years+ to get trained, but for me the rules and regulations don't work for me as it is too slow and restricting IMHO... I much prefer to be guided and use my intuition when I work.