Ufo's and Aliens Contact 2012 (Full Documentary)

[starsha]

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[applepie]

This is an excellent documentary.

[ponda]

Great video starsha

Thanks for posting



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[Dennis Leahy]

I'm about half way through, and the thought emerges: What if one of the greatest benefits of even a semi-spiritual awakening of mankind, (that is, a recognition of the interdependence of life, the interrelation of humanity, to a point where "negative" thought and emotion such as greed and fear, falls away as unsupportive and useless)... what if the lack of this ready source (us) for harvesting the energy of these negative emotions leads not to an embracing disclosure, but rather a purging disclosure? If these critters are actually terrestrial (not necessarily in the distant past, but are now terrestrially-based) and are reliant upon negative emotion for sustenance, then they - and their control - would be starved out of existence by this awakening. Thus, the greater good of humanity is not in the meeting with these critters, but in their expulsion.

Second cup of coffee, second half of the video in progress...

Dennis

[taizen]

Early on in the documentary, he site's Dr. Greer's naivety about the benevolence of 'aliens' and that he was disregarding the negative abduction experience. Dr. Greer's stance is a mission of peace. If we are seeking peace and surrounding ourselves with meditative thoughts of peace and positive universal exploration, why would this be considered a COINTELPRO disinfo stance? I'm not disregarding the negative abduction experience. IMHO the human psyche has been trained to view the negative and give it more press time than the positive abduction experience; taking the positive abduction experience into the realm of possible hallucinogenic. I'm more prone to the idea that TPTB are to be feared more due to their history of their own abductions; reference would be related to Guantanamo Bay. Governmental abduction has now been endorsed by Pres. Obama by his act of signing the NDAA. I'd be more afraid of the Government acting out their own agenda instead of the possibility another universal race coming here to create hybrids. Common sense would dictate the 'aliens' would have honed their genetic alterations by now?! For this fact alone, I'm more convinced that the reason for the negative experiences would be caused more by the Government; possibly a multiple country governmental collaboration.
If we are to become more than what we are led to believe we are, then let's focus on the positive. The alternative science is out there to suggest we have more mental capabilities than what we are 'schooled/farmed' to believe. Why not say we human's are being abducted? Perhaps the other universal species (if indeed it is them) are doing this is due to the simple fact they are trying to discover why we (as a collective species) haven't honed our mental skills-telepathy, telekinesis, phase shifting, obe's, etc.? Maybe they are trying to discover the reasoning behind this? Again, it would lead them back to the government and learn from them the reasoning behind the suppression-the ultimate plan.
So, this leads me back to square one. Benevolent or malevolent beings? Is this really the question? No. The question is - 'they' are here, but why-good or bad? or is that being too black and white?

[starsha]

Early on in the documentary, he site's Dr. Greer's naivety about the benevolence of 'aliens' and that he was disregarding the negative abduction experience. Dr. Greer's stance is a mission of peace. If we are seeking peace and surrounding ourselves with meditative thoughts of peace and positive universal exploration, why would this be considered a COINTELPRO disinfo stance? I'm not disregarding the negative abduction experience. IMHO the human psyche has been trained to view the negative and give it more press time than the positive abduction experience; taking the positive abduction experience into the realm of possible hallucinogenic. I'm more prone to the idea that TPTB are to be feared more due to their history of their own abductions; reference would be related to Guantanamo Bay. Governmental abduction has now been endorsed by Pres. Obama by his act of signing the NDAA. I'd be more afraid of the Government acting out their own agenda instead of the possibility another universal race coming here to create hybrids. Common sense would dictate the 'aliens' would have honed their genetic alterations by now?! For this fact alone, I'm more convinced that the reason for the negative experiences would be caused more by the Government; possibly a multiple country governmental collaboration.
If we are to become more than what we are led to believe we are, then let's focus on the positive. The alternative science is out there to suggest we have more mental capabilities than what we are 'schooled/farmed' to believe. Why not say we human's are being abducted? Perhaps the other universal species (if indeed it is them) are doing this is due to the simple fact they are trying to discover why we (as a collective species) haven't honed our mental skills-telepathy, telekinesis, phase shifting, obe's, etc.? Maybe they are trying to discover the reasoning behind this? Again, it would lead them back to the government and learn from them the reasoning behind the suppression-the ultimate plan.
So, this leads me back to square one. Benevolent or malevolent beings? Is this really the question? No. The question is - 'they' are here, but why-good or bad? or is that being too black and white?

I agree i don't think these 'beings' can not be pigeon-holed into 'good' or 'bad' either. I have had multiple 'abduction' experiences myself, though only a few of them i can recall in full. Most of them are just bits and pieces of memories i can't fully 'access.' And i don't want to fall into the trap of 'assuming' that i know what they were, and what they meant, until i am confident that i do have all the facts. Some of my experiences have been pleasant, and sometimes even profound revelations result from the information given.

Some of them are not so pleasant, and actually quite scary and hostile. But interestingly, those are the ones i have learned the most from. i have learned that the 'scary' experiences are usually only 'negative' due to my own inner fears, perceptions, and prejudging the situation without having all the facts. I have learned that if i can get past my own 'inner demons' and keep my head on straight, these so called negative encounters are actually not 'negative,' it is simply an interaction with a life form that has it's own agenda as it's priority.

Like any interpersonal interaction, if the focus is on listening and understanding the other view point, much can be learned by even the most 'negative' of intentions. My rule of thumb now is to just not take it so personally, and 'wait and see.' But i do think it naive to think that these 'others' are all benevolent, i have not seen that to be true ... so far anyway. Some are nice, some are not, but usually they have their own agendas and interests as their focus. It is very rare to find a 'being', (human or 'other') that has no agenda at all and is working selflessly toward a greater harmonious goal. Though i have met a few, and it is simply indescribable to be in their presence.

[seantimberwolf]

This may be unpopular but it think this documentary hits it right on the head.
I think the whole L.A.L. (love and light) thing is a bit of a crock, love and light as real expressions of self are real.
But wishing it upon each other without fully understanding it is damaging our REAL goal and its becoming clicky and nonsensical i think.
I think the best example of this in the documentary is the simple observatory fact: is taking someone in the night and performing terrifying tests benevolent.
And are they convincing us there good beings so we generate more "MIND FOOD" for them, I have watched the whole thing and think its great, thanks for posting.

Sean

[Davy]

This documentary resonates thetruth in so many ways. I strongly challenge every one that reads this messge to watch it. I would also suggest reading The "Allies for Humanity". The Great Awakening is for us to know all truths and too understand that true knowledge is true power, ithink that the awakening is real, we have got to pull together as a planet and take back our power, I feel this is the most important thing we shouldhave on our plate, to wake up and see the truth. We have to be responsible for our selves not giving our power away to another race, wake up wake up wherever you are.

[Davy]

I believe that the new age love and light campain was infiltrated and used as diversion from the real true way to spirit ic through knwledge, hidden but being brought to light for all to see, We have got to pull together as a planet, the truth has to treachery everyone.

[Davy]

Benevelant ET's do exist they are guiding us too, it is just so are the negatve and they are very persuasive. ET's are not allowedto intervean so if they are , by offering angything, it is to keep the peace and gain our trust. We have got to wake up and learn how to help ourselves on our own as a planet united.

[starsha]

I believe that the new age love and light campain was infiltrated and used as diversion from the real true way to spirit ic through knwledge, hidden but being brought to light for all to see, We have got to pull together as a planet, the truth has to treachery everyone.

I agree, well said. :) Thank you for bringing your wisdom and knowledge here Davy.

[Phoenix1304]

I found this documentary deeply depressing. I've been stewing over it for a couple of days and want to make a few comments for others that might be feeling a similar sense of 'what's the point?, we're nothing but defenceless labrats, might as well top ourselves now.’ Something very wrong about being left in that state after viewing a film.

I was massively influenced by Casteneda's work in my youth, the original trilogy, that is. Much, much later came the book 'The Other Side of Infinity' and that too, was deeply depressing. Suddenly, the Toltec teachings I had been so interested in became very, very dark and stimulated this same feeling of hopelessness. This was the end of my flirtation with Shamanism via a third party. It is repeatedly quoted in this film to support the premise of powerlessness.

The thrust of this vid selects evidence to support the filmmaker's stance, I found myself thinking 'what makes Laura Knight Jadscyk the world's authority on ET?, the other researcher that died of a mysterious cancer (sorry can't remember the name and I'm certainly not watching it again), also had developed a most negative perspective on the subject and her husband naturally might want to blame something 'out there' for her untimely demise. Personally, I think most cancers can be put down to man's activities adulterating our food, water and environment. Usually for no more nefarious purpose than profit. And if you've ever listened to Dolores Cannon regarding hypnosis, she states that the negative memories induced by fear in many abductees, under deep hypnosis becomes something very different and, indeed, more positive.

‘They see us as nothing more than a resource, 'roaches' and batteries’ is a common perspective since The Matrix came out, I just wanted to point out that an advanced intelligence is easily misunderstood by a lower one (ever tried to help a trapped bird?). A request to our leaders for the decommissioning of all nuclear weapons (advanced intelligence) is seen as a demand for unconditional surrender by the lower which instantly goes into defence and attack mode.

The activities of ET are necessarily secretive because most of us would die of fright confronted with an alien race in full consciousness, stuck as we are in our feudal mindsets holding the absurd belief that we are not only the only life in the vast universe, but the most intelligent.

I’m really getting sick of this insinuation that those that believe in maintaining a positive mindset and practice loving kindness and compassion in their daily lives are gullible fools being deluded by evil overlords. ‘New agers’ and lightworkers are constantly under attack and ridiculed by those that don’t want to raise their consciousness and prefer to wallow in suspicion, hatred, anger and fear. Sorry, but if you want to evolve you’re going to have to learn to love and the practice will teach you the truth.

Really, this film is not helpful, and before I’m attacked for ‘not wanting to see ugly truths’, let me say that I believe most of us (maybe not Avalonians) are simply unaware of the power of thought to shape our reality and if you want to believe we are powerless human batteries for predators then so it will be for you.

On the other hand we could believe that if we can transcend the petty human proclivity to dominate and manipulate one another we might actually learn something and become fit to be in the company of higher intelligence that, in my experience, only seeks to help and not harm.

Blessings and peace to you all.

[Nerge]

I found this documentary deeply depressing. I've been stewing over it for a couple of days and want to make a few comments for others that might be feeling a similar sense of 'what's the point?, we're nothing but defenceless labrats, might as well top ourselves now.’ Something very wrong about being left in that state after viewing a film.

I was massively influenced by Casteneda's work in my youth, the original trilogy, that is. Much, much later came the book 'The Other Side of Infinity' and that too, was deeply depressing. Suddenly, the Toltec teachings I had been so interested in became very, very dark and stimulated this same feeling of hopelessness. This was the end of my flirtation with Shamanism via a third party. It is repeatedly quoted in this film to support the premise of powerlessness.

The thrust of this vid selects evidence to support the filmmaker's stance, I found myself thinking 'what makes Laura Knight Jadscyk the world's authority on ET?, the other researcher that died of a mysterious cancer (sorry can't remember the name and I'm certainly not watching it again), also had developed a most negative perspective on the subject and her husband naturally might want to blame something 'out there' for her untimely demise. Personally, I think most cancers can be put down to man's activities adulterating our food, water and environment. Usually for no more nefarious purpose than profit. And if you've ever listened to Dolores Cannon regarding hypnosis, she states that the negative memories induced by fear in many abductees, under deep hypnosis becomes something very different and, indeed, more positive.

‘They see us as nothing more than a resource, 'roaches' and batteries’ is a common perspective since The Matrix came out, I just wanted to point out that an advanced intelligence is easily misunderstood by a lower one (ever tried to help a trapped bird?). A request to our leaders for the decommissioning of all nuclear weapons (advanced intelligence) is seen as a demand for unconditional surrender by the lower which instantly goes into defence and attack mode.

The activities of ET are necessarily secretive because most of us would die of fright confronted with an alien race in full consciousness, stuck as we are in our feudal mindsets holding the absurd belief that we are not only the only life in the vast universe, but the most intelligent.

I’m really getting sick of this insinuation that those that believe in maintaining a positive mindset and practice loving kindness and compassion in their daily lives are gullible fools being deluded by evil overlords. ‘New agers’ and lightworkers are constantly under attack and ridiculed by those that don’t want to raise their consciousness and prefer to wallow in suspicion, hatred, anger and fear. Sorry, but if you want to evolve you’re going to have to learn to love and the practice will teach you the truth.

Really, this film is not helpful, and before I’m attacked for ‘not wanting to see ugly truths’, let me say that I believe most of us (maybe not Avalonians) are simply unaware of the power of thought to shape our reality and if you want to believe we are powerless human batteries for predators then so it will be for you.

On the other hand we could believe that if we can transcend the petty human proclivity to dominate and manipulate one another we might actually learn something and become fit to be in the company of higher intelligence that, in my experience, only seeks to help and not harm.

Blessings and peace to you all.

Well said. :)

I watched this the other day and it's very easy to be left in a very depressed state of mind because of it; there was little positivity in it really, or so it felt at the time.

It can make you think: 'what's the point? They can make us see what they like, think what they like, do what they like - how can be possibly combat that or know what is the truth and real?' I don't subscribe to that outlook (now), but, I do think it's important to be aware of the possibilities that some of this is in fact true - to a degree.

What I'm realising myself these days is that it's all the more important to maintain a heatlhy level of detachment when looking at these things.
Take them all on their own merits and don't get into a habbit of automatically beliveing or disbelieving something simply due to it's source or whether it fits your current 'picture'; easy to miss useful info perhaps with that approach.

Not to say this easy by any means, but at least it you file the info away and have it as a reference you can then connect the dots, as they say, and build a picture out of this whole mess. :)

[Davy]

I found this documentary deeply depressing. I've been stewing over it for a couple of days and want to make a few comments for others that might be feeling a similar sense of 'what's the point?, we're nothing but defenceless labrats, might as well top ourselves now.’ Something very wrong about being left in that state after viewing a film.

I was massively influenced by Casteneda's work in my youth, the original trilogy, that is. Much, much later came the book 'The Other Side of Infinity' and that too, was deeply depressing. Suddenly, the Toltec teachings I had been so interested in became very, very dark and stimulated this same feeling of hopelessness. This was the end of my flirtation with Shamanism via a third party. It is repeatedly quoted in this film to support the premise of powerlessness.

The thrust of this vid selects evidence to support the filmmaker's stance, I found myself thinking 'what makes Laura Knight Jadscyk the world's authority on ET?, the other researcher that died of a mysterious cancer (sorry can't remember the name and I'm certainly not watching it again), also had developed a most negative perspective on the subject and her husband naturally might want to blame something 'out there' for her untimely demise. Personally, I think most cancers can be put down to man's activities adulterating our food, water and environment. Usually for no more nefarious purpose than profit. And if you've ever listened to Dolores Cannon regarding hypnosis, she states that the negative memories induced by fear in many abductees, under deep hypnosis becomes something very different and, indeed, more positive.

‘They see us as nothing more than a resource, 'roaches' and batteries’ is a common perspective since The Matrix came out, I just wanted to point out that an advanced intelligence is easily misunderstood by a lower one (ever tried to help a trapped bird?). A request to our leaders for the decommissioning of all nuclear weapons (advanced intelligence) is seen as a demand for unconditional surrender by the lower which instantly goes into defence and attack mode.

The activities of ET are necessarily secretive because most of us would die of fright confronted with an alien race in full consciousness, stuck as we are in our feudal mindsets holding the absurd belief that we are not only the only life in the vast universe, but the most intelligent.

I’m really getting sick of this insinuation that those that believe in maintaining a positive mindset and practice loving kindness and compassion in their daily lives are gullible fools being deluded by evil overlords. ‘New agers’ and lightworkers are constantly under attack and ridiculed by those that don’t want to raise their consciousness and prefer to wallow in suspicion, hatred, anger and fear. Sorry, but if you want to evolve you’re going to have to learn to love and the practice will teach you the truth.

Really, this film is not helpful, and before I’m attacked for ‘not wanting to see ugly truths’, let me say that I believe most of us (maybe not Avalonians) are simply unaware of the power of thought to shape our reality and if you want to believe we are powerless human batteries for predators then so it will be for you.

On the other hand we could believe that if we can transcend the petty human proclivity to dominate and manipulate one another we might actually learn something and become fit to be in the company of higher intelligence that, in my experience, only seeks to help and not harm.

Blessings and peace to you all.
I agree it is very disturbing the whole realization. But just becausee we don't like hearing something doesn't mean it is not the truth. The reality is seeing with clear vision the truths with no fear, as fear will hold us back. There is a great awakening happening. I do believe in the power of love and light but we must see as clearly the dark or negative as it is what it is. This is the awkening a time for Us, as a Planet to have the power for the first time to change our world, to a time of spiritualty and Human coinnectednes relying on ourselves as a planet to stand up and learn as knowledge is the way to true spirituality. The allies for humanity is a great place to start, no fear!