Would Official Disclosure really make a difference at this point?

[DreamsInDigital]

I really want to know your guys thoughts on this, it was brought up in the Bill Woods Interview last night and has been discussed for years, decades. Most of us already know aliens exist and are very much real, have been deeply involved with the earth since the dawn of time, etc. And, there are many of us out there that even have already made contact.

UK has in their Ministry of Defense site, their archives of UFO/ET incidents, US has their files , well most on either WikiLeaks or NSA.GOV. France,Spain and Germany collectively did the COMETA Report, and China has put out about ET's living among us like they have for well since ever, but in a modern light. Many South American countries even are taking a very passive stance on UFO's / ET's, been purported that University of Chili is even offering UFO/ Exopolitic Courses.

Does it really matter to you personally if Official Government Disclosure in your home country is given?

Do you think Official Government Disclosure will happen in your life time in your Country?

If It hasn't already, and / or do you think the ET's / ED's will massively disclose themselves first?

When/If The Government Of your home country discloses open/publicly, how do you think they will do it? Will It Be a joint effort between ET's and Your Government?

With ET's/ED's already showing themselves in fleets and the sky, etc. If they were to take "matters into their own hands", and publicly/openly disclose themselves to the masses. In what way could/should they do this to be most effective?

Why do you think the focus has been so much on Greys, Reptilians, Insectoids and other non-human looking ET's, when it's quite probable and likely that the Human looking Races are more prevalent than non-human races. At least when it comes to those having some connection or contact with Earth/Terra and the Terran/Human race here on this planet?

[Carmen]

Good questions. I really don't care if our government discloses to the masses the reality of ets. To me it's a personal issue and not something to be foisted on "sleeping still" people. Hadn't thought of that till you posed the question!

[DreamsInDigital]

Thanks, thats the idea. I want individuals personal thoughts on those questions. :)

[BlueGem]

I have wondered before if it is possible to become 'desensitized' to disclosure. A lot of what we see in pop-culture regarding aliens tends to be an invasion scenario. We have seen characters come to grips with the shocking revelations, and regroup to take back Earth for humanity. So to an extent, would people actually be surprised when they find themselves in this situation? Look at zombies. There are many survival guides online, and many other sources dedicated to ensuring you're prepared for a zombie pandemic.

Personally, I feel people would be a lot more open to ET contact rather than reanimation of the dead.

DID, I'm not sure if the ETs would (or should) take a blatantly active role in the disclosure. They have remained semi-anonymous for so long, I can't imagine they have been waiting for the perfect moment to reveal themselves on a large, undeniable scale. It seems a bit dramatic maybe? Simply from the fact that they are more advanced technologically and spiritually might suggest that they can see a lot further ahead into the mire of possibility to discern the most helpful and constructive form of disclosure. I can only speculate as to what that might be, but then again we are supposedly in quite a unique position here.

People are ready, or at least they think they are. Is this enough? Have we reached critical mass in terms of awakening? I suspect the shift will happen regardless of a time frame or specific date, as Inelia and others say.

I believe that a form of disclosure has been happening for quite some time. Either through people awakening, to new souls coming and infiltrating the perpetual negativity, to guidance by suggestion, or of instigating awareness of choice, we have evolved. This has occurred from the inside, sort of like a catalyst. Take our own bodies for example. There are many creams and lotions for women, aimed at hydrating and nourishing to reduce the signs of aging. But if you don't drink water, you won't be hydrated, so the creams have to work with the internal source of water to heal the skin.

The cards are down, bets are off, and we're in for a hell of a ride!

[onawah]

I used to think Full Disclosure was essential, but more and more, I think it's not really that important.
All the lies are still despicable though.
I would love to know what would happen if we did have Full Disclosure now, though, just out of curiosity.
That would make a SciFi series worth watching, if it was done properly!

[ghostrider]

I don't need an official government or document to confirm what I already know to be true. As far as I'm concerned they can just stay out of the way....just continue to fight will each other and let the awake sane minds venture out into the cosmos bringing the light of forgotten knowledge to planet earth.... let the golden age begin...hoowaa

[TargeT]

Full disclosure right now would be sort of like admiting to setting the house on fire when every room is ashes but the one your standing in...

the main thing it would do (IMO) would be to open the eyes to the hypocrites of the world to the fact that governments can & do lie.... TO THEM! just like they lie to themselfs and others (ego baby... thats just how it goes..) this unearned confidence in external power sources scares me & needs to be shaken...

what ever happened to "government fearing its people" ?

[Godiam]

Wouldn't make any difference to me, I believe it is totally naive to think we (Humans) are the only sentient lifeforms in this Galaxy, let alone the Universe (or Multiverse, other Dimensions etc.)

The goverments have been telling lies for to long now for them to even consider changing the story now, so I cannot see Disclosure coming through any official channel!

As for the Aliens themselves forcing Disclosure, I don't see that happening either, we are here on this backwater planet, to discover the universal truth for ourselves, and any interference from outside sources would place that plan in jeopardy!

HUGS.....Godiam

[BlueGem]

what ever happened to "government fearing its people" ?

True, the roles reversed some time ago. They no longer serve the people, for the people serve them.

Ghostrider, that is a really positive attitude to have. Where attention goes, energy flows and all that. Just letting the officials have it out between themselves when things really start to crumble. They choose not to choose I suppose.

[Kindling]

Great idea for a thread Dreams. Interesting responses. I think some type of official disclosure would be good because I think it would cause a huge awakening. I liked your response TargeT!!!

[WhiteFeather]

IMO....Disclosure is happening in drips and drabs. Bob Deane mentions this in his perspectives. I just wish it would move along a little quicker now. God even my Mother believes we aren't alone and shes 82. Lol

[Carmen]

I used to think Full Disclosure was essential, but more and more, I think it's not really that important.
All the lies are still despicable though.
I would love to know what would happen if we did have Full Disclosure now, though, just out of curiosity.
That would make a SciFi series worth watching, if it was done properly!
Yes onawah, there are a few persons in my family I'd love to watch the faces of if a ship landed in the back yard!!

[ViralSpiral]

Would Official Disclosure really make a difference at this point?

My reply would be yes.
I'm with Target on this one. The lie is so big that whilst it would accelerate some peoples awakening, I personally think it would impede most, thereby holding mass consciousness back.

The wave is swelling and so, eventually, disclosure will be inevitable.
I prefer the drip ;)

[TargeT]

IMO....Disclosure is happening in drips and drabs. Bob Deane mentions this in his perspectives. I just wish it would move along a little quicker now. God even my Mother believes we aren't alone and shes 82. Lol

I wonder if humanities constant impatientness is due to our already knowing the out come.... & all of this stuff in between (while probably our true purpose, learning, growth, self examination) seems extranious in the light of that knowledge.

are we ever satisfied with the pace of events? haha...

"The end of the world is a proccess, not a singular event" ~ who ever said that... RIGHT ON!

[spiritguide]

No need to question disclosure. (when/how) Those that know don't question and those that don't know don't care. After the shift all will know intuitively and welcome the fresh air of truth. It all still depends on us and what we will for ourselves in the now and future. Et's / ED's are not the issue, HONESTY and PEACE without EGO is. If there is disclosure it makes no difference to me how it's done! IMHO

[NewFounderHome]

I really want to know your guys thoughts on this, it was brought up in the Bill Woods Interview last night and has been discussed for years, decades. Most of us already know aliens exist and are very much real, have been deeply involved with the earth since the dawn of time, etc. And, there are many of us out there that even have already made contact.

UK has in their Ministry of Defense site, their archives of UFO/ET incidents, US has their files , well most on either WikiLeaks or NSA.GOV. France,Spain and Germany collectively did the COMETA Report, and China has put out about ET's living among us like they have for well since ever, but in a modern light. Many South American countries even are taking a very passive stance on UFO's / ET's, been purported that University of Chili is even offering UFO/ Exopolitic Courses.

Does it really matter to you personally if Official Government Disclosure in your home country is given?

Do you think Official Government Disclosure will happen in your life time in your Country?

If It hasn't already, and / or do you think the ET's / ED's will massively disclose themselves first?

When/If The Government Of your home country discloses open/publicly, how do you think they will do it? Will It Be a joint effort between ET's and Your Government?

With ET's/ED's already showing themselves in fleets and the sky, etc. If they were to take "matters into their own hands", and publicly/openly disclose themselves to the masses. In what way could/should they do this to be most effective?

Why do you think the focus has been so much on Greys, Reptilians, Insectoids and other non-human looking ET's, when it's quite probable and likely that the Human looking Races are more prevalent than non-human races. At least when it comes to those having some connection or contact with Earth/Terra and the Terran/Human race here on this planet?

Hello DreamsInDigital. Thanks for this thread.

I would like to see disclosure very fast. Not in 2 years but know. My thinking is then the TPTW or the service to self have had their deal long enough, this must change for the best. I just think then this has been going on for so long then we should not ask less than the truth and complete story and there is no such thing then the complete story is too much for us, that is for no won but ourselves to decide that if we can take it or not.

Keep up the great work dear friend's.

[meat suit]

full disclosure would make all the difference IMO and thats why it is urgently required.
Its like when a bunch of unattended kids are wrecking the house for hours and then mums car drives up to the front door.
we all know how quickly the kids try to tidy up, put the budgy/hamster back in the cage and get their excuses ready for when the door opens..

I cant think of a better way to instantly stop wars, murder, pollution and anything else thats going wrong here....

[kemo]

Yes IMHO. Those of us who have had no personal experience of UFO sightings or ET contact may "know" that the universe is very likely teeming with life but having what we know confirmed would be of huge significance. I had a dream a couple of nights ago on this theme in which disclosure happened - I think by the US - and I felt a great sense of relief.

Most races must go through a period of not knowing whether they are alone in the universe but perhaps suspecting that they are not. If, as I believe, the universe is indeed teeming with life then at some point there must be contact with ETs. The various ET races who visit us sure as hell know they are not the only ones and there must be some contact between races, maybe co-operation e.g. between nordics and greys according to some accounts. So contact must happen at some point and when it does it may be the most defining moment in our history. People will then be able to see our evolution and history in a whole new light and if the truth has been hidden the human race has a right to know and to know who is responsible.

Since the vast majority of people now accept the reality of extraterrestrial life it seems to me that the time is now. We've had the drip feed. How long is that supposed to go on. I can see there are major political problems so whether disclosure will happen is another matter - 50:50 or probably less.

If disclosure paves the way for ET contact the possibilties this opens up for us (hopefully) are unimaginable and - another thing - we need those suppressed technologies now so we can quit the oil business and clean this place up. I for one am ready to join the intergalactic space corps - if they'll have me - of course I may need a new body. Maybe one of those crystaline ones we've been promised (hope they don't break easily). I jest of course though I am serious about wanting to see other worlds and civilizations - who wouldn't.

I don't know about the timelines and 21.12.2012. My feeling is that it will probably pass and nothing much will happen except that some of the theories will be busted.
However the ET presence is real and as I say at some point it has to be openly acknowledged and various consequences will hopefully flow from that leading I hope to actual contact. However, I don't say this will be easy because we imagine ETs to be similar to ourselves but I think it was Whitley Streiber who said that in his abductee experiences there were no common reference points, so I'd accept that there is need for caution.

[BestLion]

Would Official Disclosure really make a difference at this point?
You bet it would! Think of the implication of telling the world that they have alien races that are millions of years old! Think of what that would do with monotheistic religions of the world? It would utterly and instantly destroy them! I just talked on the phone to a fundy Christian and she thinks the world is only 6K yrs old. And I tried to tell her that GIZA alone is MUCH older then that..but she did not agree, buys into the mainstream BS that all these monuments are less then 6,000 yrs old.
If they released this info it would just reconstruct all of human ideas, history, religion etc..
thus releasing this info would have major consequences.

[Nerge]

My take on this is that disclosure would make a huge difference, if only to wake people up from the extremely limited and narrow view many have of the world we live in and beyond.

Personally I'm finding it hard to believe we'll get any official out right disclosure from governments (but I live in hope) unless they're forced to in some way that is undeniable.

I think it's more likely that we'll get to a point where collectively we mature (soon I hope!) as a species to the point where disclosure isn't even required anymore, for we already know that truth. We stand on our own two feet and don't need to be spoon fed or treated like intergalactic toddlers. :)

So, while disclosure would be a great catalyst for change I don't believe we should rely on ET's/government or anyone else to come save the day and do the work for us - we can't be certain of their motives for a start - but we can put the responsibility squarely and collectively at our own feet.

While contact with other races and species would be cool and interesting, I think we always have to ultimately retain our own power and believe in ourselves to make the right choices; trust is earned and not blindly given. :)

[BMJ]

Thanks Dreamsindigital,
I don't know if they have or have not and DO NOT CARE. We all know UFO's and aliens exist, and so this leads ot my question. Why do so may people have a need for offical admission?

[BlueGem]

Why do so may people have a need for offical admission?

Because people are stubborn, and wilfully ignorant. Some people will simply refuse to believe cold, hard facts. Take creationists for example, they have their faith and that's fine, but it's not very constructive. I'm sure there's a reason for everything.

In our hearts we know a lot more than in our heads.

[joedjemal]

I'm hoping that one day soon we'll get a gateway to their version of the internet complete with translation software. (I'd even be prepared to learn a few more languages if necessary). If they have instantaneous interstellar travel, maybe they have instantaneous communications, they must have computers and data is data, it can be interpreted.

Then we can find out for ourselves what's going on without having to wade through swamps of bullsh*t.

[AuCo]

Official Disclosure? Hmm! Does that mean I will be told of the many things I did not know or wasn't sure if they were true? Would I be upset with the many things that I will learn? Maybe. Would you? Would he/she/they? I live in the city where a lot of people can get upset very badly over very little things. I supposed disclosure could be just there for those who want to know. And those that want to know most could be very evil too. Well, let's imagine we are the officials, then...

[EnergyGardener]

We have varying degrees of Conscious knowledge of all beings (Terrestrial and Extra Terrestrial), our Human/Terrestrial role as Lightworkers, against our adversaries: the Illuminati and it's earth partners, Governments, Bankers, Corporations, Intelligence (surveillance and disinformation) Agencies, Military Forces and Organized Religions (Vatican).

We are frustrated, some would say impatient, for many reasons, the least of which is that we at Avalon are "preaching to the choir." That internal dialogue within this forum, is not getting out to the masses as is necessary. That is why so many have commented here that there is no need for disclosure, that we already know. We share the impatience "knowing" the freedom and beauty that awaits us on the ascended side of this transition (whether we remain within our current bodies or not) and we want to get there already. We must also remember what we came here to do. Not just to "watch the show".

Disclosure will make a difference; there is urgency for it now.

But, disclosure must come from us. The Illuminati, remaining in power will do as much damage as possible. Aren't they getting ready to commence WWIII with Iran, China, Russia, then back on our "homelands"? Isn't the timing due for this disclosure, because, despite our Terrestrial families having no conscious ET experiences, they recognize something else that is as important: The government authorities that we/they thought were elected, have stolen our possessions, our treasuries, created our own wars, taken our liberties and are about to start WWIII, destruction of Western societies and operation: worldwide Camp FEMA.

Consider that the question of this Thread is perhaps the question of our Terrestrial roles on Earth. Are we going to make a difference at this point? Perhaps disclosure is our immediate (and perhaps primary) task as Lightworkers.

There are certain sensitivities to this issue of Disclosure:


1. A dramatic ET announcement setting off the panic of humans that provides for the perfect excuse of our leaders to shut off the grids, grocery stores, transportation, to accomplish one of their goals of NWO currency, slavery and population reduction.
2. Our ET families do not want to help instigate that circumstance, to overstep their authorities a become the "uninvited" instigators of the larger "Awakening". Shouldn't we, as Human Lightworkers, usher in the awakening to our human families? Is it not now time for us to "Command" to the Illuminati to leave Earth, for their earth partners to turn themselves over to authorities? This "Command", along with a brief explanation of world affairs, will be understood and will accomplish many things:


a. Awaken our Terrrestrial families.
b. Provide official "Permission" to our ET families to provide their help in a "relatively" peaceful transition to minimize services disruption and a peaceful transition to benevolent authorities. This less dramatic coordinated announcement / disclosure by us, will increase the number of Ascendanded Terrestrial being, perhaps our greatest priority as Service to Others (STO) Lightworkers.
c. Eliminate any chance the Illuminati and their Terrestrial partners the opportunity to claim they first made disclosure themselves. As liars, they will be gone; on "our" terms.

Are you ready to provide that "Command" with a brief explanation of what is going on, and start the disclosure?

If enough of you "feel" the time is right, I'll provide the latest draft in a new thread, "We Command" for your review. Several of you, my PA friends, have reviewed and helped arrive at the latest draft of both the "We Command", and supporting information.

It is my hope that you, the powerful beings that you are, will make this the next step in our "Lightworker Initiative".

[rgray222]

Disclosure has been happening for sometime now, evidenced by the Vatican, UN and countries that have started partial release for formerly classified UFO/Alien documents. Some form of disclosure (partial or limited) is essential to moving mankind along to a new level of beliefs and thinking. Once all of mankind understands that humans are not the only game in the universe it will change everything, it will shake religion to its core, rewrite the science and history books, change our understanding of physics and the universe (multiverse), expand our understanding of dimensions, the speed limit that Einstein set with the theory of relativity will go by the boards and our corporate structure and geopolitical boundaries will be radically changed forever. Sadly,many beleive this is simply too much for most of mankind to absorb overnight.

Another thing that will be unleashed by disclosure is a host of technological advances including clean renewable energy. Disclosure is essential to bringing this to reality.

For the vast majority of people on earth UFOs and alien visitations are relegated to science fiction. Most people "want" to believe that there is something more advance and a better way of life out there but "few really" believe. This is a huge distinction that only disclosure by a bonafide government can change.

Also, it is not just our leaders or the powers that be that should be held in contempt, those that have been visiting this planet through the millennium believe that they know "what is best" for mankind. It makes little or no difference if they are benevolent towards humans, they should put the truth out there and deal with the consequences.

It is one thing to know the truth and another for all mankind to believe the truth! Disclosure is a key element to moving man forward enough for us to be part of the greater universe!

[EnergyGardener]

Disclosure has been happening for sometime now, evidenced by the Vatican, UN and countries that have started partial release for formerly classified UFO/Alien documents. Some form of disclosure (partial or limited) is essential to moving mankind along to a new level of beliefs and thinking. Once all of mankind understands that humans are not the only game in the universe it will change everything, it will shake religion to its core, rewrite the science and history books, change our understanding of physics and the universe (multiverse), expand our understanding of dimensions, the speed limit that Einstein set with the theory of relativity will go by the boards and our corporate structure and geopolitical boundaries will be radically changed forever. Sadly,many beleive this is simply too much for most of mankind to absorb overnight.

Another thing that will be unleashed by disclosure is a host of technological advances including clean renewable energy. Disclosure is essential to bringing this to reality.

For the vast majority of people on earth UFOs and alien visitations are relegated to science fiction. Most people "want" to believe that there is something more advance and a better way of life out there but "few really" believe. This is a huge distinction that only disclosure by a bonafide government can change.

Also, it is not just our leaders or the powers that be that should be held in contempt, those that have been visiting this planet through the millennium believe that they know "what is best" for mankind. It makes little or no difference if they are benevolent towards humans, they should put the truth out there and deal with the consequences.

It is one thing to know the truth and another for all mankind to believe the truth! Disclosure is a key element to moving man forward enough for us to be part of the greater universe!

Disclosure by the government and the Vatican will still be lies. How are they going to explain the truths, including their technology transfer for warfare / enslavement systems, including human abduction, experiment and exclusion of non-polluting "free" energy? Their only incentive for disclosure is either to increase their control or do so as "damage mitigation" in advance of the "actual truth" as more disinformation.

They will likely use "Revelations" as their script: When and where are they going to land "Jesus" holding hands with the Pope?

[onawah]

If what Wilcock and Bill Wood were saying in the recent interview with Kerry, by 2013, all things that have remained unclear will become clear to all.
What they were talking about , I think, is not so much an event or series of events, although these will also occur, no doubt, so much as a shift in Consciousness.
"The 'C' Word", as Nassim Haramein calls it.
The one that puppet scientists, bureaucrats, corporations, etc don't want to reckon with.
If people are just going to KNOW what is true and what is not because of the exponential increase in frequency shifts, it will be impossible for non-Disclosure to continue.
And many other lies.
Of course, what this "Knowing" would mean would vary with each individual, as would the process of coming to terms with seeing one's cherished opinions come irrefutably crashing down.
It will be a process, as much as an awakening, and the results will necessarily be manifesting over time, not all at once.
But it would certainly be a good beginning for the eventuality of the ENTIRE human race finally knowing the truth about itself.

[Anchor]

I do not care about seeing UFOs or ETs. They exist for me and thats the end.

For me disclosure has happened. I think disclosure has happened for anyone that has the eyes to see it and the ears to hear it, and the mind to contemplate it.

The DISCLOSURE I want is the disclosure that we have been lied to.

If there is disclosure it wont be by ET it will be the disclosure of the lies.

It will be significant, because it will be that those who once always chose to lie, are now choosing to tell the truth.

This will not happen all at once IMO, and it is happening more, and it will, one day, reach a tipping point and that will be a good day, because we may actually really start to turn this ship around.

It think if ET were going to publicly disclose - it would be after that tipping point.

So - keep visualizing the sword of truth doing its work on the hearts of those misguided men who still choose to lie to those that they are meant to be serving.

Have some compassion for what THEY will go through in this process of their own, likely traumatic, awakening.

There are people doing this ****, brothers and sisters, and they may well have had no idea what they are doing or why they were doing it they were so blindly controlled.

[Logan]

It depends on the disclosure... if they announced "Hey we met these swell aliens and we're exchanging information with them. We have zero point energy and now money is obsolete!! Forget gas prices, we're building EVERYONE these keen hovercars that do not need gas and these will be delivered over the next 2 months to all families in the US. Welcome to paradise!!" that might make a difference for me.

I know that's not at all the way it would go down, so I don't really feel a need to have the gov't play out some disclosure thing on TV.

[AuCo]

Well, let us be specific. Pick just one thing that needs to be disclosed, officially. I have a feeling we pretty much think in disclosing it it will do humanity so much good. So let's talk about all the good things it will bring. But then do NOT forget the bad things as well, and will we be able to handle them too.

How about to save us some time, let's start with FE - free energy, where Mr Frazier has done a wonderful job WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet describing the benefits it will bring - very much admired and appreciated, btw.

Now, can we think of any bad things to disclose it TODAY?

I am thinking of the use of nuclear energy which is nothing compared to FE.