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tonius
26th January 2012, 12:07
Disclosure or not disclosure ,3d or 4D,benevolent or malevolent, are these really the important things?What do they have in common? They keep you distracted from yourself,its talking about probabilities,about the mechanics of the illusion.Its alien mania,will they kill us,will they hug us.
First whatever alien race comes to 'shake hands' first probably isn't on our side.Abduction stories are very clear in revealing their intentions,and the ones with happy ending are rare.Benevolent evolved beings know well how important it is to let things roll on their own and not interfere.
It would be kinda cheating wouldn't it.It would be like those quiz shows where you ask for a hint so you can give the wright answer.How can we expect a hint when they dont know the answer .They are part of the illusion , so whatever they have to say is just THEIR interpretation of the show(illusion).Of course it may be interesting,fascinating,curiose but not more than whatching Bear Grylls eating a spider ,from the 'Self Knowing' point of view.

Why?

Because what it comes to REdescovering who you are (this the most important thing for me) ,looking outside ,up,down,left ,wright ,watching Bear Grylls or waiting for aliens to give you a tour of the galaxy will only delay your discovery, take your attention away from your Real Self. 'Alien Mania' is becoming the new 'Iphone mania',we seem no diffrent from ''the ones'' we call 'asleep',we just cant wait for 'IT' to come,be it alien,iphone,or the so called shift. As long as we are in the illusion we are all asleep,just diffrent layers of it.Comes in mind the movie 'Inception'.In this observation i include myself,there was a time i found this gueesing game interesting.

Its about us ,sharing our experinces,our journeys having real soul to soul communication .Here lies our real power,the power of love,the power of that deep intuitive knowing,that no corrupted Government or ''energy sucking alien'' can overcome,as long as we trust it.
So sorry if i dont give a damn about 'Alien Disclosure' ,i am concentrated in 'Self Disclosure',its long gone the time i thought getting in an underground bunker to save my ass was the priority.I have searched a lot ,like most here in this forum,filtered and compared information from many sources,but the more i search 'there' the more i understand the real answer is ''here''.We are focusing so much in aliens and galactic federations ,and technical assumptions on things we hear from others.Ask yourself,are you still in the ''want to play more'' position,or in the ''cut to the chase position''.'I guees it depends on the way we see things.

Its like we understand we are part of the Matrix (illusion) but somehow it manages always to play us,make us want more .Maybe thats its role,make the journey more complicated and as long as possible.So,you tired of 3D? it gives you 4D,than 5D and so on.And there i thought school was over,silly me:eek: Waiting for shifts,aliens and galactic federations to tell us what to do.There it is its power,make us belive there is a kind of general path.
What if you could skip classes? Of course if you belive otherwise ,that will be your reality.What if i want to graduate immediately,should i go to the ''school'' principal? And who is he,where is he?
Oh ,wait ,i am the principal,its a f..ing illusion.I say it because i feel it,i deep inside know it,everything is possible why not give ourselves a chance.The more we concentrate on them the more power we give them.I know there is still more to understand but what i know strongly is that me discovering myself doesn't have to do with dimensions,its like i feel almost already connected.We should we belive in the prison we created.When i say 'we' i mean also me,you,as divison is an illusion.Just the fact there are more evolved beings doesnt mean we should play the game of belive or not,who guessed it better and who not,its like we want to go to the source but still wait a little more,''lets see how we can create a ferrari from thought,we can fly,cool'' ,than we go.Who cares if we shift to fourth or fifth dimension,its like going to a better prison,thats what we want ?, an upgrade.Oh but he ,she ,they said we have to go gradually,there must be a reason,sure... Thats right,you ''HEARD'' it,it didnt come from inside but from OUTSIDE.Lets create our stairs not take the ones others have created.

For what i know i dont know anything,but still seems to me closer to the Truth than some inergalactic 'Dummie's Guide'on how to make it to the 11th level.But we have to play,we are learning...are we sure ??,i mean are you sure you came here by your choice to learn.I am not.It may be ,but ,lets see. It seems the more words one puts to this situation the more complicated it becomes.Until you are there,witch is nowhere(i mean at the source),you are only guessing if you try to predict or divide your path in dimensions,levels or choosing federations.All i can do is understand more and feel the onennes all around me as much as possible.I dont know where this total lack of fear comes,but i assure you it seems more real than the keyboard i am typing on.I dont need some mechanism based on Illusion (Lie) ,some shift or harvest process guided by some hidden hand to tell me when i am ready.Ready for what ,to go where i have always been. Call me crazy but my connection to the self (source) seems strong even here,yes right,in the this 'filthy' 3rd dimension ,as much as 'flying saucers' and multiple selves(in different dimensions) are interesting i live it to who wants to play some more my deep intuition tells me i dont need to make great plans for my future,my aim is to go back to ,become nothingness(god,conscienceness,however you want to call it) not hang up with aliens or get lessons from 'Evolved Beings' on how they 'Almost' know what this is all about.

Not saying i figured it all out,far from that,just that this strange peace,deep trust, is getting me ''drunked''.So maybe its the 'alcohol' speaking :eek:. I like the spiritual ,deep inner truths side of avalon,and hope doesn't become the press office of channelers (i know some of them have good intentions) and galactic federations bombarding with eternal 'truths',disinfo, and horoscopes. You are eternal ,untouchable ,all knowing ,get over it.We deal with things as they come,meanwhile lets concentrate on the things of real Value.Just rediscover it ,stop the fear game. They give many explanations,make you think things should be complicated,all b...it. Its simple,discover your own truth,your way not through this twisted path created by OTHERS.Maybe this is a prison,maybe just a school,maybe we got lost in our own creation,maybe i am just writting to myself,everything is possible soo......where to go?
My answer is inside,that is the only certainty i have the rest is just speculation,maybe well convincing and constucted but still based on 'IF's .So lets talk more about that 'truth' we each see and feel every day inside us,how it evolves,what it says, rather than waiting for ASHTAR and company to recrute us ,and tell us who we are(With all respect to Ashtar if its real) Let that witch is not based in IFs ,guide our journey.

treeman
26th January 2012, 12:12
Not 'Aliens' but 'Visitors or ET's, etc'...

Kindred
26th January 2012, 13:09
Disclosure or not disclosure ,3d or 4D,benevolent or malevolent, are these really the important things?What do they have in common? They keep you distracted from yourself,its talking about probabilities,about the mechanics of the illusion.

Because what it comes to REdescovering who you are (this the most important thing for me) ,looking outside ,up,down,left ,wright ,watching Bear Grylls or waiting for aliens to give you a tour of the galaxy will only delay your discovery, take your attention away from your Real Self.

Its about us ,sharing our experiences,our journeys having real soul to soul communication .Here lies our real power,the power of love,the power of that deep intuitive knowing,that no corrupted Government or ''energy sucking alien'' can overcome,as long as we trust it.

.Lets create our stairs not take the ones others have created.



Yes... I agree whole-heartedly! Thank You!

The Law Of (1)
"The greatest temple of man is inside him; it is there that he can communicate at any time with the creator, his creator, using meditation and concentration through the intermediary of his Higher Self."

(Mathew 6:22)
"The Light Of The Body Is The Eye"
If Therefore Your Eye Shall Be Single
Your Whole Body Shall Be Full Of Light

tonius
26th January 2012, 13:20
I wouldn't dare call just 'visitors' beings who feed on our energy, prey on our soul,implant us , and manipulate us whenever given the chance .
ET(Extraterrestials) wouldn't be also the best choice. Who knows ,there may be native earth beings under our feet (hollow earth) ,native reptilians come in mind,which may as well contribute to our misery.As if we were not doing enough ourselves.
I hope you didnt stop just at the title of the thread treeman,terminology was not the scope of my thread.Its about how much we Really know,or think that we know.

Tony
26th January 2012, 13:34
Folks around here, aren't from round here. There are a lot of people around here that thinking they aren't from here.

Everyone is a alien, we all go planet hopping...or from dung pile to dung pile?!