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astralflyer
28th January 2012, 02:50
(reposted from my reply)

In the past 2 years I have been on many spontaneous astral travels whilst being conscious, mostly in the daytime and fully re-countable. I guess this really started years and years ago unbeknown to me at the time (i didn't really know what "astral travel" was), but i never managed to get fully out of the body and independent for reasons I'll make clear.

In the past I had a few "incidents" which I couldn't understand, and where pretty scary. Sometimes before sleep yet not awake I could hear a faint buzzing noise which got louder and louder until it kinda filled my entire being inside and out, like a huge swarm of bees, this was very scary and is really indescribable to anyone who hasn't experienced it. So i guess i got scared and snapped out of my trying to get to sleep, had a coffee and went back to bed later. This continued for years (although scarcely, usually if I hadn't eaten for a while or was ill)

Anyhow, on a few of the instances there was a gentle but very clear voice telling me not to be scared, kinda coming from behind me so I went through "the buzzing" which grew to a crescendo then stopped suddenly, followed by a soft "clunk" noise then an awful sensation of falling, similar in sensation to that which you occasionally get in dreams. Again i got scared and the whole thing stopped.

Years past, this would happen once in a blue moon, then last year things really began to move up a gear, after a great trauma in which i lost all my family, home, job... well everything... I was left with... me in my raw state, no place to go, no past, no future. I guess you could say I was "in the now" albeit reluctantly. Anyhow, I get this strange feeling usually during the daytime, kinda like a heavy tiredness but not actually a physical or mental tired, its hard to describe. A voice would suggest that I go lie down for a minute, which I do, on my back, hands by the side or on the solar plexus. Within a very short space of time the buzzing noise comes (the rise of the Kundalini Energy), whilst in a conscious yet relaxed state, only this time accompanied by a very defined voice asking me to "go through it, don't be frightened", and again through the horrible falling sensation the same voice, same message.

Then it happened. I was actually out the body, literally, fully conscious, fully awake and wow did it feel good, much more conscious and awake than in the body yet this is impossible to describe. The "guide" voice was still there and said to "think" where you wanted to go, so naturally the first thing wanted to do was go see my children, and wow you can fly, i mean really fly - they weren't far off the mark with "Superman", and you can see, really see 360 degrees. Over and under cloud layers, zipping over towns like the speed-up footage of a low flying jet. Seeing a few things that are, well, strange like black teardrop shaped "craft" "parked" up just above the cloud layer (the only report I have seen of these very unique looking craft were from Pane Andov), but I'm not really interested in them and continue on the journey to see my children, landing in a petrol (gas) station near their school a little like Arni in the start of Terminator movie (only i was clothed....and I'm not built like Arni.

One of my children is extremely clairvoyant with amazing powers Spiritual so I know if i contact him he will be able to see and hear me and pass the message on to the other two. Anyway, needless to say this trip was the first of many, I cannot go into detail about what was said or what i saw on that level only that they miss me tremendously. There was a trip which was very strange, it happened in a hotel in Rishikesh, India, on the banks of the Ganges in mid March 2011. Briefly I was approached by a tall, slim older gentleman in a pristine suit, fine grey hair and blue eyes, who asked me if i knew who he was, to which I stupidly replied "errr, are you evil?" he laughed gently and said no, then handed me a greetings card. The envelope was black, jet black and he gestured for me to deliver it across the street to a house, which turned out to be my "old" house, he said something weird "its your anniversary", but it wasnt. I walked to the house and heard my children playing inside, but outside was the intended recipient, to which i handed this strange envelope, much to their abject fear and shock.

The strange man and envelope and the black craft was the weirdest thing that happened, if you like weird stuff. Everything else is pretty normal in terms of the Earth, buildings, people etc. I found it impossible to make most people actually hear or see me despite my best efforts. Only some could interact with me; those who are astral travelling or those in the third dimension who have clairvoyant skills.

Sometimes everything is... a little different, physically I mean. The same town, same roads yet, a little different somehow. The general architecture would be the same, same size, same classification of design yet built slightly differently. This makes me think that the astral travel I was having was to the 4th dimension, or a parallel world, I guess this subject matter was aired in the Matrix movie.

I guess whats most impressive is the feeling you have when you get back, like every cell in you body is "buzzing" and "fresh" or "clean" like you have never felt. Thats really amazing, like gravity has little effect and you seem to glide effortlessly around. Sad to say this wears of after 30 minutes to an hour then you feel like you are walking around in treacle again, pushed down by gravity with limited senses and a head full of.... thoughts.

Im no regular Pane Andov wormhole-diving ET-bashing astral superman, and I have little interest in so-called ETs, so I guess its not really that exiting, (apart from black helicopter circling my house for 7 years, usually at some un-Godly hour in the morning! or the military drone aircraft I caught monitoring my home just before Christmas 2011. Sometimes when they is excessive spy-copter activity my body "freezes" and I cannot move a muscle! but I fight it with all my strength, as soon as I muster the mental energy to move as little as a finger, it releases me.

Although I have spoken to Pane about the black teardrop things above the clouds, he informs me, in his typically concise manner, "not to worry they are from the moon, but they are all going to leave soon" (whatever that means). Since these trips I have read Pane's "Extroadinary Powers in Humans" and must say it really is the only text I have come across which is genuine and written from personal experience . You can still find it on free pdf download, but would suggest this one deserve a place on the bookshelf.

Anyway, I can categorically say that this 3D life is NOT real, and in order to escape it we must let go of it, totally, and surrender. If we are still here, then we must still have an attachment to it, and conversely if we attached to it then we cannot move on. Its really surprising just how many attachments we have. I don't really believe there is an easy way to astral travel, no handbook, no technique, no pill, potion or "tool", for me it came with surrender, being in "the now" and finally realizing that everything in my life past and present and future is....fake, a con, an illusion, never really happened and doesn't exist and that absolutely nothing material, no-matter how small, can do anything other than take you away from your true self.♥.

P.S. I'm finding there is more than a little confusion about the subject of "Astral Travel" and "Astral Projection". According to experience, "Projection" is the process whereby a "travel" is done within the mind of the practitioner, and not actually leaving the confines of the body. In Astral Projection it is not possible to interact with or communicate with people on or through the astral / 4th dimension, but moreover it can better be described as "Remote Viewing".

Again, a great text which may help people understand these experiences is Pane Andov's "Extroadinary Powers in Humans" pdf. I know there are countless books on the subject, but again, if it has a glossy cover with fancy artwork, and the author is selling techniques, potions or lotions, then avoid.


All my Love.

AF

Carmen
28th January 2012, 04:32
Thank you Astralflyer, a fascinating account. Love to hear more of your adventures.

sercetu
28th January 2012, 19:59
Here I found a very good site about astral projection.

There is an explanation of the afterlife territories and you can download for free the audio tapes for astral projecting:

http://focus-4.es.tl

Jake
28th January 2012, 20:36
AF, I said it once, and I will say it again, You are most welcome here. The OBE experiences in my own life definitely have an ET element to them, too. I did not experience the a full, conscious exit until I was 17 years old. But between the ages of 4 and 17, I was experiencing a panorama of strangeness, especially regarding paralysis and vibrations and other intense energy body events. When I was 13, I had a brush with a small group of greys that showed up in my bedroom during one of these events. Very menacing and very scary! At the time, I did not associate them with aliens. I thought they looked like something that crawled out of some swamp or something. Again, that was before I had experienced the full exit projection. I can't help but think that that experience augmented the overall experience for me, for many years.

Many similarities between pre-cursor OBE and what is often reported by abductees, no? Strange lights, paralysis, intense fear, menacing presence, etc... Needless to say, I developed quite the 'fear/panic' reflex. Nowadays it is all very different, as I know what is going on. But when I was a child, I had no reference point for my experiences, and they terrified me.

These days I put a major emphasis on the developement of my energy body. I do energy work every day. I keep it seperate from meditation (clearing my mind of all thought and receiving presence) or any type of trance work. I had a 13 year crash course on the energy body and the subtle systems within. For me, energy work is like excercise for your energy body.

One of the side effects of my experiences were the dream state lessons that came along with it all. Very lucid dreams that were designed to teach me about moving energy, flying, using emotion to trigger energetic flow. I would very often find myself Out of Body, trying to navigate or fly or whatever, and I would hit snags,, loss of vision, loss of control, can't fly or move, etc... At which point I would be 'kicked' to the lucid dreaming states for a 'lesson review'. Believe it or not, it was happening just like that.

Even last night,,, I felt the familiar tinge of energy sweep my body (much less intense these days) as soon as I thought about exiting, I found my self in a very lucid dreaming state. (I have been concentrating on my brow center during energy work lately, giving that energy center extra attention.) anyways,, I found myself immersed in another lesson about how to release, and/or stimulate energy in my brow center. It was very vivid, yet still within the dreaming states. I did not phase/shift into the ObE state(s), but I did learn much about the response of my brow center to direct stimulation.

I have been to the moon, (after many times trying), I went to the Pyramids at Giza to explore, (although it was not in our time period!?). I was once taken aboard a craft to a planet (seemed so far away) and shown an event there that was so powerful that it stays with me, even today. I have spent MUCH time trying to get the attention of others, while out of body. I love the alive, electric feeling of the astral 'winds'. I have looked back at my physical body, many times, shaking my head and smiling, knowing that the poor fellow (me) still dares to doubt the reality of what is happening. I have faced down shadowy, wispy creatures, and I have seen many many different craft in the astral. I have also been man-handled by etheric entities, I mean downright beaten and left for dead. I even woke up with bruises on my ribs once from an astral beating. I was able to thwart a robbery at my house once because I was out of my body, and saw them trying to get into my house. I regularly try and freak out the cats in the neigborhood. :)

I have seen the teardrop shaped craft that you refer to. They travel side by side, and look quite strange when you try and focus on them. I have seen other types of craft too. There are blue ones that look like large jax, (you know that game with the bouncy ball and the little jax?) except for they were more triangle than square. I have seen large craft that fill the entire sky, hovering right there in the astral. I flew up to meet one once,, it sent down a smaller craft to meet me half way. I flew up as high as I could and was hovering in the air with this green and orange light craft. I was terrified. I lost consciousness and woke later in bed sobbing. Something must have happened. I have been to many different astral 'realms' and experienced how they 'learn' there. (Yes there is a training ground element to OBE) I have experimented endlessly. I love the different textures of different things when I put my hand through them. Soooo mannnnyyy OBEs!!! I often walk around in a strange state, not knowing wether or not I am out of body.

Which leads me to another point...


I can categorically say that this 3D life is NOT real, and in order to escape it we must let go of it, totally, and surrender.

I don't really believe there is an easy way to astral travel, no handbook, no technique, no pill, potion or "tool", for me it came with surrender, being in "the now" and finally realizing that everything in my life past and present and future is....fake, a con, an illusion, never really happened and doesn't exist and that absolutely nothing material, no-matter how small, can do anything other than take you away from your true self.♥.

Amazing that we have the potential to realize these things on our own, no?? And without the 'help' of religion or government or science or money. I have always said that what will unshackle us from these human belief systems will be the unified knowledge that we are more than our human bodies, more than our human existences, and that THIS world is the reflection,,, not the other way around.

I once had an opportunity to look an alien in his eyes,,, I was warned NOT to. I realized in a flash that this alien was ME. There is a lot more going on than meets the I...
I had another opportunity once to ask an alien if it was real,,, it responded,,, "We CAN be!"... Ha! I love it...

Interesting that you know Pane Andov. I know Robert Bruce, (Author of Energy Work and Astral Dynamics) I have had many conversations about the multi-dementional aspects of self. Rest assured that it is all rolling out beautifully... We are waking into a new reality,,, Mastery of the Astral is a major avenue of discovery, and the potentials are endless.

Welcome aboard,,,, (no pun intended) ;)

astralflyer
29th January 2012, 11:38
Wow Jake, thats some Astral Bashing experience you have had there! I'm intrigued whether your experience was naturally induced by the rise in kundalini, or whether induced by some third party source, ET maybe? since if there is the slightest doubt, fear or negative intention in any experience I have had, I come back into the body instantly.

I know that any contact with ETs on the astral plane would pretty much scare me witless, yet alone getting beat up by one. I have encountered one in the 3D Earth plane which occupied the body of a women, and was extremely aggressive with it's mind - it wanted to know about human emotions and love. Once it fired a beam of energy waves from it's head and knocked me clean off a chair - always looking down at the ground and away from view while it "charged up". Dont know what kind though, I never heard of a grey shapeshifting, so I guess it was a rep?

778 neighbour of some guy
29th January 2012, 11:58
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778 neighbour of some guy
29th January 2012, 12:32
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29th January 2012, 12:36
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astralflyer
29th January 2012, 17:35
Thanks 665, I'll check this guy out. He mentioned the humming noise and falling sensation so I guess he's the real-deal, however he also mentions the "silver cord", yet, like Pane Andov, personally I have never seen this silver cord. I really am beginning to think that there may be different types or classifications of Astral Travel. From the (genuine non-flower) people I have spoken with, there can be a variety of scenarios:

> Extreme and sudden shock, as in a car accident, whereby the astral body is instantly forced out, without any prior sensations. (Bat of of Hell lyrics)
> Extreme grief and the single-minded will to be with the loved one/s.
> Powerful Meditation techniques
> "ET" / 4th dimension entity abduction (not nice, you wouldnt want to go there!)

There seems to be various classifications of experience also:
> Silver cord / completely free
> Interstellar Travel (questionable? I'm under the impression there is a force-field around 40miles above the surface of the Earth preventing this and also preventing man from ever reaching the moon re:Pane, however there may be "wormhole" conduits through this barrier)
> Astral Projection / remote viewing or actual Astral Travel
> Travel through different "parallel" Earths in different dimensions (I have experienced this)
> OBEs on operating tables with "white light or tunnel" - I'm not sure whether this can be classified as an actual Astral experience.

Also I think there are many among us who think they have had an Astral Travel but are unsure, since the subject of Astral travel remains more fairy-story rather than fact in the collective human consciousness, and therefore can attract many fantasists and doubters. One thing I do know is when you have had an Astral Travel experience you Really know about it - coming back into the body is like walking through treacle and this gravity stuff is awful, not to mention terrible vision and hearing, and that thing people call language is a real pain. ☼AF☼

jackovesk
29th January 2012, 18:04
@ astralflyer

Did you come 'Thumping' back into your body..?

The sound is similar to when you close a prestige/solid car door..?

Wind
29th January 2012, 18:22
I so envy you guys! I can get to that vibrational state where my third eye starts to whirl, but I can't get further than that! What should I do and does it have it to do something with my calcified pineal gland?

Btw. Has anyone here been able to access the Akashic Records?

jackovesk
29th January 2012, 18:34
I so envy you guys! I can get to that vibrational state where my third eye starts to whirl, but I can't get further than that! What should I do and does it have it to do something with my calcified pineal gland?

Btw. Has anyone here been able to access the Akashic Records?

1st thing, don't try so hard, let it happen...

2nd thing, before you go to sleep cover yourself in protective 'White/Gold' light & try saying to yourself "I am going to enjoy my Out of Body Experience" tonight...(This is probably the easiest way to do it at 1st)

...and keep a voice recorder handy &/or pen and paper handy to record your Dream/Experience

Re: Akashic Records - You already have access to them...

Re: Calicified Pineal Gland - No, makes no difference...

Hope that helps a little...

Rgs,

Jack

Wind
29th January 2012, 19:10
Hope that helps a little...



Thanks, it does.

Jake
29th January 2012, 21:19
AF,, Yes , Interesting that some folks will see the 'silver cord' and others will not. In all of my experience, I also have never seen the silver core. I have, of course, heard about it. I asked Robert (Bruce) about it once and he said that, of course, this experience is personal, and will differ from person to person, yet he suspects that I will see it at some point. I guess we will see. Yes, Robert is the real deal. Very knowledgeable and informative. He goes into alot of detail about the astral environment and the mental process. He coined the term RTZ (real time zone) to explain the parallel realm that we initially find ourselves in after leaving our bodies. He also coined the term 'reality fluctuation' to explain the small differences that we will sometimes find between the RTZ environment and the real world environment,,, (doors or windows out of place, small roads or buildings or trees that show up, but are not there in the physical.) He also came up with the 'mind split' effect, which explains bi-location and the nature of multiple aspects of self. I would definately check out Astral Dynamics. Or, just check out the vids from Astralbob,,,, same guy!!!

Starseed,, It is best to try and 'relax into' the sensations as opposed to try and force them. Deep physical relaxation is important. There are different 'exit techniques' that can be applied once you find yourself in a heightened energetic state, such as the vibrations. I am with Jacko on the Pineal gland issue. I do not think that it matters. It is alive and well, rest assured. Robert Bruce is also the author of a book called Energy Work. I suggest everyone checking out his web site www.astraldynamics.com and read about energy work. Very helpful practice when it comes to setting the stage for OBE and/or Astral Projection.

We all project at some level during sleep. The trick is to be awake and aware when it happens. Practice inducing and sustaining gentle levels of trance, through meditation, first. Mind-Awake/Body-Asleep!!! I don't have all of the answers, but I do have my piece of the puzzle.

astralflyer
29th January 2012, 22:04
@ astralflyer

Did you come 'Thumping' back into your body..?

The sound is similar to when you close a prestige/solid car door..?

Yes, an excellent analogy, and when leaving there is a soft "clunk" ....

jackovesk
30th January 2012, 13:14
Speaking of 'Out of Body' experiences 'Astral Travel' last night..!




"This is the 'Quiet' before the 'Storm'..!"

"A 'Storm' is 'Coming' and its going to be 'Big One'..!"

"Whatever 'Form' it takes (Positive or Negative), I do not know..?"

"But a 'Storm' is 'Coming' that I do 'Know'..!"