Fritz Springmeier discusses the Top Illuminati Dynasties that Run the NWO with Alex J

[Mulder]

I really enjoyed this interview as Fritz talked about the NWO and how there is a computer system in Europe called "the Beast" and how it will be connected through the Internet to eventually monitor what everyone buys and sells, and could in time prohibit a person from not only buying and selling, but will "delete" their whole existence from the Internet! Although, the interview was mainly about the illuminati and how they operate e.g. marrying within their own families, Hilliary Clinton's rank in the illuminati, etc.

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Fritz has written or co-written these books on the illuminati:
1. The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave.
2. Deeper Insights into the Illuminati Formula
3. Bloodlines of the Illuminati. --> An excellent read!

[schneider]

It would be nice if Alex could let the guest finish his sentences. I must get the book. I liked how he explained their ability to disassociate when being tortured and that a normal individual would probably die. What a strange group of people but I get the feeling they are suffering more than we are. In fact I don't think these people are capable of experiencing true joy. That vibration emanates from the heart and these people don't have one.

[Mulder]

It would be nice if Alex could let the guest finish his sentences. I must get the book. I liked how he explained their ability to disassociate when being tortured and that a normal individual would probably die. What a strange group of people but I get the feeling they are suffering more than we are. .

But the Illuminati have caused the World a lot of suffering - e.g. look at all the Wars in the middle ages - old letters have been found saying "my surfs are too upperty & I need a war to make them remember their place." Not to mention things like AIDS, Interest on loans,... truely a list of horrors.

[jackovesk]

Not to take anything away from the 'Good Info' here...:yes4:

For some reason that name 'Fritz' always cracks me up..! :pound:

Bit like the names Skip, Scooter, etc...

....PS Update...

This is a 'Must Watch' interview..!

[sandy]

Just as they don't experience joy they probably don't experience suffering either>>>>>>>that's why they can slip into multiple personalities easier than a normal individual. Maybe if they felt pain they might find empathy but keeping the bloodlines stops this genealogy from changing and the threat of any infiltration of new blood and genealogy.

[TelosianEmbrace]

The Illuminati Formula... is one of the most groundbreaking books when it comes to getting some understanding of how the Illuminati operate. When Fritz got out of jail in March of last year I personally wrote him an email to thank him for his part in uncovering this den of vipers. He was sailing really close to the wind for a number of years, and his reply was humble and thankful. I publicly wish Fritz the best for the future.

Now, time to watch the vids!;)

[freebird111777]

I'm just having a hard time understanding these evil people! We were warned, but who knew this all would be happening in my lifetime...I am awake and I am ready to defend.

[Seikou-Kishi]

It's even in the British papers that the royal family eats body parts?

Lol, not in any paper I've read.

[CdnSirian]

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/illuminati_formula_mind_control.htm You can read one of his books here.

[modwiz]

The third video here, in the first 4 or so minutes where he describes the bloodlines' unique dis-associative abilities, was a very important part for me. This is crucial for them in a few ways, and a way they are able to speak on TV and other media and appear normal.

Appearing normal is integral to their survival because if their true malevolence was on display, they would have been exterminated for the parasites they are a long time ago. They would need small armies to travel anywhere because legions of people would be out to kick their asses instead of kissing them, as is now the case. It is all window dressing that is enabled by the compartmentalizing of personalities. This ability to hide their true natures is a survival mechanism.

[WhiteFeather]

It's even in the British papers that the royal family eats body parts?

Lol, not in any paper I've read.

Agreed but the queen spits out the bones, you know the bones that they found on her property last month.

[Seikou-Kishi]

It's even in the British papers that the royal family eats body parts?

Lol, not in any paper I've read.

Agreed but the queen spits out the bones, you know the bones that they found on her property last month.

Oh I'm not saying it's not true, just that it might have been memorable if one of the papers had accused her and hers of cannibalism... though maybe they don't see it as cannibalism if they don't consider we're the same.

[ThePythonicCow]

dis-associative abilities
Success in corporate management requires much the same ability. One must speak "sincerely" to different audiences (colleagues, higher management, employees and staff, customers, vendors, boards, investors, ...) saying sometimes conflicting things, and almost always hiding some things, even from one's own awareness (the key to "sincerely" fooling someone else is first fooling oneself.)

That is the nature of corporations: dis-associative and amoral.

I worry sometimes that corporations, as a form of organizing human activity, are as harmful to this planet and to us humans as are the individual elite bastards in power.

[DNA]

The Illuminati Formula... is one of the most groundbreaking books when it comes to getting some understanding of how the Illuminati operate. When Fritz got out of jail in March of last year I personally wrote him an email to thank him for his part in uncovering this den of vipers. He was sailing really close to the wind for a number of years, and his reply was humble and thankful. I publicly wish Fritz the best for the future.

Now, time to watch the vids!;)

Your recomendation means a lot TE, I'll give it a listen to tonight. Thanks

[jackovesk]

I'm just having a hard time understanding these evil people! We were warned, but who knew this all would be happening in my lifetime...I am awake and I am ready to defend.

Good Girl...:clap2:


I am awake and I am ready to defend.

...and help 'Wake Up' family & friends :yes4:

Welcome to Avalon...freebird111777

Rgs

Jack

[TelosianEmbrace]

If you want to get more than just a few sound bytes, maybe you'd like to read "the Illuminati Formula Used to Create An Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave".
www.emhdf.com/Monarch-mind-control.pdf
It is a truly shocking exposure of the precise science of mind control and intriguing reading. The layering and interrelation of the systems is brilliant. If only such minds were working for the good of all.

[DNA]

If you want to get more than just a few sound bytes, maybe you'd like to read "the Illuminati Formula Used to Create An Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave".
www.emhdf.com/Monarch-mind-control.pdf
It is a truly shocking exposure of the precise science of mind control and intriguing reading. The layering and interrelation of the systems is brilliant. If only such minds were working for the good of all.

That's a good place to start. I always recomend Cathy O'Brian's work in explaining this stuff. I think she does a good job of not only explaining the MKultra stuff, but, she does a good job of laying a lot of this at the feet of the neocons, who in turn are really furthering a nazi-esque gambit with similar ethics.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g4zB1j_AkBg

[jackovesk]

Warning: This Video details some of the 'Horrific' description of genital mutilation Cathy O'brien was victim to...Later to be witnessed by none other than 'Hillary Clinton' herself..!

http://darrylslibrary.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/obrienc-tranceformation.jpg?w=604

Cathy describes a mutilation inflicted on her by one of her handlers, where the inside of her vagina was made to resemble a grinning witch’s face. It was hard to believe until I stumbled upon an actual video of it being examined by a doctor.

:director: Do Not Watch if you are too sensitive...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te0ZX-uzfDg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te0ZX-uzfDg&feature=related

It’s no surprise that this book is self-published. What publisher would dare to take it on and risk prosecution? For me, therein lies the most convincing aspect of the story. There are countless high-profile people named and shamed in this book, and yet here it is in publication with not a single charge laid against Cathy and Mark. Why? Is it perhaps because it’s a true account and to draw attention to it through a legal battle would only bring the awful truth out into the public eye? Or should I perhaps give the government the benefit of the doubt and simply say they are innocent until proven guilty?

Whole story here...

http://darrylslibrary.wordpress.com/2009/01/10/trance-formation-of-america-by-mark-phillips-cathy-obrien/

http://my.telegraph.co.uk/discoveriesandrevelations/nery/2349/hollywood-and-the-malicious-intention-to-continue-with-the-nazi-legacy-can-you-trust-your-kids/

[grapevine]

I really enjoyed this interview as Fritz talked about the NWO and how there is a computer system in Europe called "the Beast" and how it will be connected through the Internet to eventually monitor what everyone buys and sells, and could in time prohibit a person from not only buying and selling, but will "delete" their whole existence from the Internet! Although, the interview was mainly about the illuminati and how they operate e.g. marrying within their own families, Hilliary Clinton's rank in the illuminati, etc.


Fritz has written or co-written these books on the illuminati:
1. The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave.
2. Deeper Insights into the Illuminati Formula
3. Bloodlines of the Illuminati. --> An excellent read!

No. 3 Bloodlines of the Illuminati - is selling on Amazon UK for £158 - a ridiculous amount. Does anyone have a link to somewhere cheaper? Many thanks - linda

Update: I just listened further on the tape and was given the inforwars website. The book is priced at $49.95 but of course there is a lot of postage on top of that which would still make the book a little pricey. Does anyone know of somewhere in the UK I could buy this book? Mtks

[jackovesk]

I really enjoyed this interview as Fritz talked about the NWO and how there is a computer system in Europe called "the Beast" and how it will be connected through the Internet to eventually monitor what everyone buys and sells, and could in time prohibit a person from not only buying and selling, but will "delete" their whole existence from the Internet! Although, the interview was mainly about the illuminati and how they operate e.g. marrying within their own families, Hilliary Clinton's rank in the illuminati, etc.


Fritz has written or co-written these books on the illuminati:
1. The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave.
2. Deeper Insights into the Illuminati Formula
3. Bloodlines of the Illuminati. --> An excellent read!

No. 3 Bloodlines of the Illuminati - is selling on Amazon UK for £158 - a ridiculous amount. Does anyone have a link to somewhere cheaper? Many thanks - linda

Bloodlines of the Illuminati
Item Id: B-BOI-FS-1

$ 49.95

http://www.infowarsshop.com/thumbnail.asp?file=assets/images/bloodlinesilluminati.jpg&maxx=300&maxy=0

http://www.infowarsshop.com/Bloodlines-of-the-Illuminati_p_83.html

[grapevine]

Thanks Jack - I was updating while you were posting. . .

[9eagle9]

I've noticed books of this nature being expensive and hugely expensive on Amazon even for used. It's because they can't pick a mainstream or even offshoot Indie publisher to distribute them and getting them out there is horribly expensvie when you want to provide a decent format to the persons reading. Independent publishing to distribute even 20, 000 books which isn't a lot would be so expensive , too bad too. Part of the whole schism to prevent those who have something to say from saying. Also these are less inclined to get thier knickers in a bind over pdf publishing.

thanks for posting the pdf Embrace, going to read it this evening.

I'd not mind reading the pdfs of the other two if anyone can find them.

[CdnSirian]

I've noticed books of this nature being expensive and hugely expensive on Amazon even for used. It's because they can't pick a mainstream or even offshoot Indie publisher to distribute them and getting them out there is horribly expensvie when you want to provide a decent format to the persons reading. Independent publishing to distribute even 20, 000 books which isn't a lot would be so expensive , too bad too. Part of the whole schism to prevent those who have something to say from saying. Also these are less inclined to get thier knickers in a bind over pdf publishing.

thanks for posting the pdf Embrace, going to read it this evening.

I'd not mind reading the pdfs of the other two if anyone can find them.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/illuminati_formula_mind_control.htm --another one of his books...

[9eagle9]

Thank you for posting that other pdf Cdn-S. I'll read that one when I'm done recovering from this one.

I've not ever read this particular author's work that I can remember but have read a lot advanced occult mind control that falls into alignement with this. And then of course through my own experiences with our brainwashed population at large. Haven't kept up on but even though it is so vastly disturbing, I'm glad I was able to come back to this. Reading this after so many years of experiencing and observing has made me see things with a lot more clarity than when it just used be an 'informational thought I had".

Over the last few weeks I had been gnashing my teeth over country music how objectifying it is, and how the subliminals in much of it make me feel like someone is scratching at my brain wanting to come in. and how when I've asked people to who loudly playing country music to please turn it down, they can't. They turn it down and then a moment their mind brainlessly has the hand creeping back up to turn up the volume control. This pdf tells me I had a good reason for feeling that way even though it infilitrates all music genres across the boards it has a speical emphasis in country music. .

And I see how this sort of brainwash is reflected in today's society on much less extreme level and re emphaiszing how this mind control has infiltrated the New Thought / New Age paradigms. A natural progression making peoplle think they've actually moved on from a less dogmatic world view--and they really haven't. . I had posted earlier about people having a hard time publishing this sort of stuff. And it makes me go back to really examining our spiritual leaders. I know so many people who have great information on a grass roots level and I always think 'these people need to be heard, they need to be famous." it comes back to me why they are not and never will be. Not so much as it won't be allowed but it won't be accepted. In knowing these people they have shared with me their sense of great aloneness in doing this work, and I share that sentiment with them.

However I began noticing about 5 years ago that are most widespread 'spiritual' leaders in the circles of new age are giving over information that is alignment with this work. Doreen Virtue is one of them. Her work has mass appeal espeically to the Indigo Movement. Mass public appeal in the new age movement but the core of is this sort satanic 'let's create an alternate inner world' where everyone is REALLY a dolphin. When I express this sort of stuff even on this forum, and I did recently another member quickly moved to make it known that I was exaggerating. It was an automatic response, not moving under one's own volition. I want to cry when I see things like that. Not because is accusing me of exaggerating but because I'm reminded daily "you are living in a world where others are not moving under their own volition," that are so few 'real' people out there.

And the thing is I wasn't exaggerating the proof is in the books that Virtue publishes. The proof is out there. It is safer for us to think I'm exaggerating than to go find the proof. The peace will be broken, but its not peace its a artifical lulling , enchantment we are experiencing.

But its always a place where people are herded back to a place of artifical peace. By the same people who claim to be on the path of self knowingness. And you can't say anything, because you're the bad guy then for disturbing the peace. I often been accused of being a handler , a programmer, I get an accusation a week. I must be part of the NWO. Name some one who isn't? We're all in this order together. I hit trigger points in people by expressing this and this tells them nothing. It tells me everything.

The deprogrammers are under attack not by the NWO but by the population even in the alt media and alt spirtuality circles.

It is a such a conundrum how we are going to get out from under this if people keep choosing it or deferring it to 'exaggeration ". How do we have any hope of bringing this down when the very people who claim they want it brought down are mindlessly supporting it for this artifical enchantment of peace. We are supporting it from the bottom up.

I'm only my own experience, I can know when I see manipulation in others, but I cannot know their experience and why they keep choosing this consumer level of Monarch mind control. Why I had to go into myself and find it and pick it out peice by peice but its wrong and troublemaking for me to suggest other's do so. Why? It's all part of the program. The contingency it's called. There's people out there who know this. People who really know this won't ever be famous.

People sneer and ask me 'if you really knew something you'd be murdered".

They don't need to murder the few because "The Contingency" protects them. The Contingency was emphasized in the pdf I read.

And in this forum we see others attacking anyone when it's suggested you can't trust what is imbedded in our external information. Let go of the external information and get back into yourself, find out what is there inside of you that could be a psychological trigger --we all have them. When it is gone, you will see reality for yourself. We are generationally brainwashed at the very least. Granted most of the population is not out mindlessly assasinating or being sex slaves or have alter personalties but that doesn't mean this very thing doens't exist inside of us on a much less extreme scale. But just enough to make them 'think' they are free.

Even in the alt media and alt spirituality circles the religious aspects of what is referred to as Satanism in these works, will attack anyone who suggest a means of getting out of it. Freedom of speech. Well freedom of speech and media is the channels they work through. Censorship is wrong but Censorship is the very thing that protects this. We have to make the choice to become self censoring.

This is why this work is so impossible to get out there even for those who 'think' they are very much seeking truth. They deny it when they see it even as they ask , or demand it.

I come from a druidic family I know how information is passed generationally, I have information on druidism my life experience doesn't account for. I didn't read it, I didn't learn, no one taught it to me but i see what I know verified in works like this. I'm not dissing druidism either , it is something that was corrupted and perverted to serve the masters of the world. Most occult knowledge has been perverted to serve the many instead of how it was intended to serve ourselves. I see this generational conditioning in racehorses and throughbreds DAILY. It exists, our programming is in our genetics til we start cracknig the codes.

How information is passed through the blood, how brainwash is passed through genetics. Why there are only so many people on earth who are reisistant towards it and those people...how are they going to help if the very people who claim they want to get out from under this are attacking them.

Reading this alternately gives me hope and despair, for my part knowing that some people are really on the right track with this and the despair that time is short and there's just too few, and those who know what to do can never get it out there.

[Ria]

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It is frustrating at the best of times, they do not wont to believe what is really going on, it is all to much for them, do not give up on them, more importaintly do not give up your truth. You are a torch bearer. They will shift, they will see........every thing in time.

[9eagle9]

Thank you Ria, there are days that seem like watching others interact in so much of the brainwash we've been fed is like watching people engage in what could be described as satanic ritual / veneration all day long. Like any other person I have to put it in a box but now and again that box has to be opened and the contents examined,

But thank you.

[truth4me]

How much do the azz wipers make ? Is that out there are what......David Icke just might be on to something don't you think........Their own private azz wipers...... well,momma say's it be's that way sometime....

[9eagle9]

I'm not sure I really understand your comments in reference to azz wipers and what David Icke knows. Care to expand on that?

[Mulder]

I've just heard a second interview between Alex Jones and Fritz. I found it very painful listening to Alex "hogging" all of the time, however, Fritz was able to make some points without being interrupted.
It was interesting to hear how some families are made into millionaires by being given monopolies and being allowed to trade with the enemy (e.g. Oanasis' ships were never sunk in WW2).
Here's the links:
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[Mulder]

And here is a third interview taken on 3 Feb 2011

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[Mulder]

I've just listened to this Michael Tsarion interview. He talks about how we are slaves to the NWO & don't know it like Fritz did.

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