View Full Version : Are they really Aliens??
Timreh
29th January 2012, 07:21
Maybe we can thank Hollywood and popular culture but the term “Alien” for me has a somewhat negative connotation, implying something dark, scary, monstrous and separate or different to us, I think most of us would agree that is a not entirely true.
Although Extra-Terrestrial may be a little kinder I would like to know just for fun if anyone has any ideas new or old to better represent our brothers and sisters? :ufo:
Seikou-Kishi
29th January 2012, 08:18
The folklore of the British Isles held that fairies lived beneath the ground under the hills, and that encounters with them left people with missing time and with only one foot still in 'the real world'. Maybe they're fairies. Does that sound nicer? :D
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29th January 2012, 08:28
Hi Soul...
[QUOTEour brothers and sisters? :ufo:[/QUOTE]
I think you put it very well, "brothers and sisters" Thats what we all are...
joedjemal
29th January 2012, 08:45
I've met the Fey but they aren't physical beings like us, the ones I met looked like glowing blue balls about the size of a ping pong ball and there were other types around mostly hanging around the edge of the woods. You mostly knew they were there by the glamour they cast on things, they gave my friends masks at one of our parties, made everyone look wild (animal heads shimmering lights around us, people said I was leaving light trails when I danced ) they appeared and spoke to one of my friends as humanoid and thanked her for our help defending the forest from development. We won that campaign, the company went bust trying to evict us, we were there 3 years and the forest is still undeveloped. There was nothing subtle about the encounter, we all saw it they were there continuously for months but usually you'd just catch a glimpse of them out of the corner of your eye. They didn't seem to be fully in this reality.
Timreh
29th January 2012, 09:37
Amazing story joedjemal, what an experience to share with friends?
Borden
29th January 2012, 11:18
Hi SoulAppreciation,
How about ... astral entites? How about ... elder hominids from right here that went to ground when we rose against them long ago?
Or how about both of those things? Maybe they're underground (literally and/or figuratively), and have the same ability to operate on the astral that we do, only far more evolved. Maybe all the assaults on our pineal gland etc is part of their campaign to keep us underfoot while overhead.
Joedjemal, your story is brilliant. They don't sound like the ones doing all the abducting though. You've probably read the book 'The real Middle Earth' by Brian Bates, but if you haven't I highly recommend it. It talks in depth about the non-physical entities that our (British Isles) version of the shamen (called Wodens, as in the Norse all-father) would see and communicate with after purging themselves. It's a great read, and it showed me that even stuffy old England was once a lot more vibrantly spiritual and mystical than I had ever thought. The Roman Empire largely sorted that out though, and then their new religious mask turned up and really finished the job.
I don't dismiss the idea of extra-terrestrials, but I find it the least likely explanation of what most would probably describe as 'alien'. Just my opinion and gut feeling. If there actually are visitors from another planet that are more spiritually evolved than us and want to help us out ... yeah, 'alien' would probably be a rude thing to call them!
Borden.
Timreh
29th January 2012, 12:10
Hi Borden, some good ideas there thanks..
Underground hmm.. figuratively maybe but literally, well.. I do think the earth is inhabited inside and out, seen and unseen.
Limor Wolf
29th January 2012, 12:44
Maybe we can thank Hollywood and popular culture but the term “Alien” for me has a somewhat negative connotation, implying something dark, scary, monstrous and separate or different to us, I think most of us would agree that is a not entirely true.
Although Extra-Terrestrial may be a little kinder I would like to know just for fun if anyone has any ideas new or old to better represent our brothers and sisters? :ufo:
Off-worlders
Not from earth
Visitors (when suitable)
fellow energy beings :)
The advancers
Neighbors from universe
The adults :)
Anything wich is respectful can suit me, but I agree SoulAppreciation,not so much 'aliens' or the opposite to that 'gods' .
WhiteFeather
29th January 2012, 13:16
Star Friends Works For Me/Friends From The Stars. Q. Why do we, primitive aliens who reside on earth need to put labels on everything. LoL
Borden
29th January 2012, 16:42
On topic, I feel ...
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Timreh
29th January 2012, 20:14
Star Friends Works For Me/Friends From The Stars. Q. Why do we, primitive aliens who reside on earth need to put labels on everything. LoL
WhiteFeather I like Star Friends indeed.. guess when we stop living from our heads and from our hearts the labels might dissapear?
Centauro
29th January 2012, 20:17
I really hate to be the devil's advocate, not usually that way, but I wouldn't call them brothers and sister yet... Lets meet them first, just in case...but are we ready?
Just take a look at the BORG, is that an impossible I ask? LOL
pugwash84
29th January 2012, 20:24
I wouldn't call them that, I would call them skinny,tall,white, huge dark eyed mysterys or that explains the ones I saw lolol
jagman
29th January 2012, 20:31
Brothers from another mother
Snowbird
29th January 2012, 20:48
I actually asked this same question to a 5thD Arcturian during a channeling session. I explained that we human beings are interested in an acceptable generic reference to all off-Earth civilizations. It was indicated to me that this request would be considered and that we would be given this information when the time comes for us to need it. In other words, they don't know at this point. That was my impression. And, they were going to present this to the Councils for consideration. We can call or reference the Sirians as Sirians or the Tau Cetis as Tau Cetis, but how do we address or reference those from planet DRT79? Or, those from stars and planets that have names that are in languages that we have no knowledge of? Herein is the dilemma.
As a current Human Being from Terra 3 Earth, I refer to all beings off Earth as off-Earth beings. I figure that can't do much harm.
DreamsInDigital
29th January 2012, 22:27
Generally it has been my experience that they either prefer being referred to by their system / planet name. Or, Off Worlders, Star Friends, Visitors. The two Tau Ceti I've been in contact with say they prefer either Tau Cetians or Off Worlders.
emeraldcity
31st January 2012, 03:27
Well, I wouldn't jump to "brothers and sisters" so soon. There's enough evidence of dark ET activity (abductions, mutilations, US missile tampering, mental interference, government and corperate liason and influence) to suggest they aren't really Visitors even, but Unwelcome Visitors at best.
Taurean
31st January 2012, 03:53
ET's and Aliens come from the Movie industry.
Traditionally we've always referred to them as Angels, Messengers, Creators or Gods.
How about " The Copyright Holders " :p
ljwheat
31st January 2012, 04:45
Well, I would say in a 3D world, the starting point or reference point,- the shell's we live in are all the difference,-- in definition and appearance, But the peanut in side everything is the same cernal or source. We all taste the same none the less.
You know--- marshian chicken, moon chicken, gray chicken, terrain chicken, Palladian chicken, serious chicken, the galactic federation of chicken, take your pick its all the same. And originated out of the same store. Just packaged different.
5D and up. We stop eating each other and stop playing with toys :fencing: and telling each other unbelievable story’s for thousands of years, and many,--so many life times. :frusty:
Deep, Deep, Deep, Down , we all taste like chicken. -- Source, -- LOL :shocked::ufo:
Timreh
31st January 2012, 06:54
ET's and Aliens come from the Movie industry.
Traditionally we've always referred to them as Angels, Messengers, Creators or Gods.
How about " The Copywrite Holders " :p
Beautifully put Taurean, I like your angle
Sirius White
31st January 2012, 06:59
Interdimensional beings.
Complex, oscillating biological (in some cases, plasmoid and etheric) entities inhabiting the same outer, and in some cases "inner" spaces as us.
Most that we know about in exopolitics are not aliens, have been here, on and off for millenia.
markpierre
31st January 2012, 07:32
How about.....babysitters
etheric underground
31st January 2012, 08:56
I call them my star family
Timreh
31st January 2012, 10:46
Unlikely terms to be adopted by the UN? but they have a nice ring to them (only focusing on the positive)!
Guess these are my Fav's so far..
Star Friends/Star Family
Star Dwellers
Star Guardians
Stellar Relations
Soul Brothers/Sisters
Soul Family
Off Worlders
Once again I agree with WhiteFeather's comment..
"Q. Why do we, primitive aliens who reside on earth need to put labels on everything."
Spoken words and terms really do seem primitive compared to what we are capable of.
:ufo:
markpierre
31st January 2012, 19:06
Just don't call them late for dinner.
Tangri
31st January 2012, 19:48
Maybe we can thank Hollywood and popular culture but the term “Alien” for me has a somewhat negative connotation, implying something dark, scary, monstrous and separate or different to us, I think most of us would agree that is a not entirely true.
Although Extra-Terrestrial may be a little kinder I would like to know just for fun if anyone has any ideas new or old to better represent our brothers and sisters? :ufo:
What about Strangers
pugwash84
2nd February 2012, 23:32
lol strangers makes me think back to when I was little and Mum said "Don't talk to strangers" and "Don't take sweets from strangers" lol and "Don't get in cars with strangers". I don't recall her saying don't go into a strangers space ship though lol . I think Star Children is nice and Star born and Space babies and Planet hoppers :)
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Oh I just have to say it's so human to name things :)
DreamsInDigital
5th February 2012, 00:03
Well, I wouldn't jump to "brothers and sisters" so soon. There's enough evidence of dark ET activity (abductions, mutilations, US missile tampering, mental interference, government and corperate liason and influence) to suggest they aren't really Visitors even, but Unwelcome Visitors at best.
There is only a very limited few that are involved in these Malevolent actions against humans and are aligned with governments. Most are either of Reptoid or Grey, races. With the exception of the Rogue Alpha Centauri group, which is commonly referred to as the Nords/Sweds which originated from the Alcyone/Aldebaran Systems. And are considered Malevolent races. Along with those from Orion Empire and Sirius B.
Most but not all other races are either considered Benevolent or Neutrals. And a good majority of them are working to help us out. I think the general reference in calling them Star Brothers/Sisters is in our genetic relations to them. We carry 22-23 different races DNA/Genetics in us.
Seikou-Kishi
5th February 2012, 02:15
Hi SoulAppreciation,
How about ... astral entites? How about ... elder hominids from right here that went to ground when we rose against them long ago?
Or how about both of those things? Maybe they're underground (literally and/or figuratively), and have the same ability to operate on the astral that we do, only far more evolved. Maybe all the assaults on our pineal gland etc is part of their campaign to keep us underfoot while overhead.
Joedjemal, your story is brilliant. They don't sound like the ones doing all the abducting though. You've probably read the book 'The real Middle Earth' by Brian Bates, but if you haven't I highly recommend it. It talks in depth about the non-physical entities that our (British Isles) version of the shamen (called Wodens, as in the Norse all-father) would see and communicate with after purging themselves. It's a great read, and it showed me that even stuffy old England was once a lot more vibrantly spiritual and mystical than I had ever thought. The Roman Empire largely sorted that out though, and then their new religious mask turned up and really finished the job.
I don't dismiss the idea of extra-terrestrials, but I find it the least likely explanation of what most would probably describe as 'alien'. Just my opinion and gut feeling. If there actually are visitors from another planet that are more spiritually evolved than us and want to help us out ... yeah, 'alien' would probably be a rude thing to call them!
Borden.
Hi Borden, I was a little confused by something in your post (thanks for the book suggestion though, I think I'd like to take a look too). You say that these Shamans were called Wodens after Wotan/Odin and that they communicated with nature spirits (I'm guessing wights?) but that it pretty much stopped because of the Roman Empire. My confusion is that Germanic paganism wasn't introduced in the British Isles until after the fall of the Roman Empire; it was the druids who suffered at Roman hands.
By way of reconciliation the closest I can imagine is that they were Anglo-Saxon 'mystics' whose ways were lost with the adoption of Christianity, but that would only be a guess.
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As for terminology, though, the word alien literally means somebody who "is not us". It is a way of referring to people, customs, etc., of which we are not a part. It literally translates the Greek 'xenos', meaning the same. Now pointing out that something is 'other', or 'alien' or 'xenos' is not negative unless we attach to it xenophobic connotations. Though we might refer to Sirians as Sirians and Tau-Cetians as Tau-Cetians, the only really efficient way to speak of everybody who is not part of what we consider to be Earth-Human civilisation is with the word 'alien'.
If connotations of prejudice come along with that word, it would be far easier and more logical for us to divorce such connotations from the bare bones of the word than to create a cumbersome word that, since it is a new creation, has no history we might dislike.
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