A warning from benevolent ETs about our future - over 60 years ago

[Bill Ryan]

Hi, Folks:

Recently I remembered a highly traumatic event in my last lifetime. Sit tight, dear friends, and listen to this.

I have a clear recall of many lifetimes (some of which go way back) -- including a great deal of information about my lives from 1850-1901 and 1902-1924.

But the last lifetime (1925-1952) has always been obscured. When that happens -- i.e. everything is accessible and available except a certain period -- it always means that there's something sitting there that one just cannot bear to look at.

I've been researching my own past lives for 27 years. And finally, two weeks ago, I accessed the lifetime before this one. What I could not bear to look at was this.

I was abducted, by caring, concerned and benevolent ETs, in September 1946. This was very early for such things: a full 9 months before Roswell. I was abducted with hundreds of other selected individuals. And we were all shown -- graphically, experientially and unforgettably -- a possible future Earth.

I came apart when this repressed memory returned. We humans were together shown a very terrible future. We saw burning cities: billions of people dying in agony. The entire Northern Hemisphere was laid to waste. Plants, animals, forests, seas, men, women, children – all destroyed. South America and Central to Southern Africa were spared. The nightmare vision was apocalyptic and as dreadful as one could imagine.

We had all been chosen as messengers. Returned to Earth, with full recall of this awful experience, I was driven like a soul possessed to communicate what had happened -- and what I had been shown. But this was 1946: no-one would listen.

At that time I was in my very early 20s: an earnest, intelligent and sensitive young man. I was utterly ill-equipped to deal with this. I tried to talk to everyone I knew: friends, family, my fiancée. I was shunned, rejected, laughed at: mocked first with teasing laughter, then concern, then with fear, anger and rejection. I did all I could to tell the truth. And I tell you here: knowing the future – or believing that one knows it – is not a gift, it is a curse.

I don’t know what happened after that, except that I was reduced to a degree of inner torture that I would never wish on another soul. I reincarnated as Bill Ryan in February 1953, so I didn’t live for many years after my fateful experience. I died before I was 30, and I do not yet know how that life ended.

So: enter Bill Ryan. Many of you will not know that when I was a child I had a speech impediment. It was quite serious: I could barely speak. It was basically a heavy stammer. My throat chakra had a huge, tangled, energetic blockage.

I was mercilessly teased as a child, and at school lived in permanent anxiety of being asked questions by the teacher. I was very bright, and took refuge in academia and sport: I excelled at both. But I was an unhappy child. However, as time passed, I gradually overcame my handicap to become a teacher, a team-building specialist, and finally a researcher, an investigator, and a motivational and inspirational speaker with tens of millions of views on YouTube.

Just as in all my years of personal growth I never accessed my previous lifetime, I never had any clue why I was born with a stammer. And now, suddenly, last week, it all became clear. I collapsed in huge sobs in the arms of a dear friend as the avalanching realization came that the reason I could not speak as a child was because I ended my previous lifetime not being able to speak of my terrible experience. And just as I was teased and rejected by my friends at the end of my last lifetime, I was teased and rejected by my friends as a reborn child for the same reasons: simply because I was trying to say something.

The catharsis was total. After several days, last week, I came to a state of peace… in which I now write. So much was explained: my driven interest in esoteric subjects as a child (see my Avalon Interview Part 1, in which I tell the amusing story about how I wanted to write a story about ghosts and flying saucers as a child of 8), my commitment to be a teacher, my commitment to peace and harmony on Planet Earth, my teenage interest in scientific subjects such as quantum theory, relativity and astrophysics, and finally Projects Camelot and Avalon, dedicated to raising awareness and – guess what – changing the timeline of our collective experience. I imagine that few of us really know the reasons we make what we believe are free choices in our lives.

So: here we are. And I need to draw some important words of conclusion.

I do [I]NOT believe that this future will happen, that hundreds of us were shown in 1946. [I]I think we’ve avoided it.

What we were shown was a warning: not a prediction. As Inelia described in her May 2011 Avalon interview, we’re doing really well; and as Bill Wood stated in Kerry’s Camelot interview, we may only be a handful of Grandmaster chess moves away from an unavoidable checkmate of the black pieces.

The reasons why the benevolent ETs – themselves superhumanly intelligent and psychically gifted, and also deeply caring in a kind of ultimately parental way – have been focusing so intently on Planet Earth is simply to assist us in changing our own timeline. But we ourselves have to do that: they cannot.

The ET presence is simply about that. They have been our teachers: guiding, cajoling and motivating us, in extraordinarily clever and subtle ways (including many of them incarnating as humans), to take responsibility and make free choices that will result in a new collective agreement and therefore in a new collectively experienced reality.

The entire complexity is further entangled by certain ET races that have a vested interest in disaster and/or enslavement, not liberation – and by other races visiting us from the future who are intent on avoiding or changing timelines that from their own point of view have actually already occurred… the ultimate mindbender of all.

The reason I’m posting this story is to inspire and encourage others to come forward. Others have had a similar experience:




-- Miriam Delicado
http://projectcamelot.org/miriam_delicado.html

-- Jim Sparks
http://projectcamelot.org/jim_sparks.html

-- and this guy, “William” – who told Linda Howe a staggering and important story about the possible Third World War:
http://projectcamelot.org/index_archive_1.html -- and then scroll down to 16 July 2008.
It seems to have been a theme. Tens of thousands of us (maybe even millions) may have been warned in this way. It seems to have been at least part of the reason why abductions occur. Countless people will also have had this experience (as Jim Sparks explains) – and have not recalled it.

Repeat:

Maybe the ETs have been successful in this mission of theirs. I do NOT believe that this future will happen. I think we’ve avoided it.

What we were shown was a warning: not a prediction. As Inelia described in her May 2011 Avalon interview, we’re really doing pretty well; and as Bill Wood stated in Kerry’s recent Camelot interview, it’s possible that we may be only a handful of Grandmaster chess moves away from an inevitable checkmate of the black pieces.

When I was in Tibet, the community I was part of was united by one theme and one mission: to honor, protect, and work ceaselessly for the freedom of all living beings. In my work today, I try to echo that. It's a lesson not only for me, but for us all.

[Carmen]

Thank you Bill. Wonderful that you have broken through and realized this past life that almost seamlessly catapulted you into this life. Like pieces of a puzzle coming together. You have certainly had a leading role in bringing much information to inspire and inform people eager for the changes they sense are just around the corner.

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Bill looking forward to reading this.......Thanks for sharing those harrowing memmories
it does read like a destiny you are predestined to play out and maybe we have a part to play.
thats why we are drawn here.......

As I said on other threads from a boy I thought i was here to do something.....
maybe it is to be part of the general awakening of humanity.....
anyway inspiring story so far Bill.....cheers steve...

[Ammit]

Bill, Can I ask how you manage to have clear recall of past lives, is it through meditation or with the help ot others??

[mojo]

Thank you for sharing Bill. Do you think the proceeding contact that followed was a continuation of the past life abduction experience? Is your contact continuing today?

[Wind]

Amazing! Thanks for sharing your experiences with us, Bill!

[sygh]

I was shown WWIII, and the part of it as it related most personally to me, as my son was broken from the battle, mentally, physically, and spiritually. The part I saw was being faught on U.S. soil, as the U.S. had been declared a war zone. It was on the U.S. Mexican boarder, what I consider to be "hot spot", for more reasons than one. first, it's the boarder... Second, and this is very important, water. Water is a big issue.

I also saw weapons and those were photonic in nature. The slang for the weapon was Phist, like "Phist 'em! Phist 'em all." The weapons didnt' destroy buildings, (but I might be wrong on this.) THis war is also affiliated with the ongoing and seemingly never ending war on terror. Both of my sons, (even though I have reason to believe it is my second born who I write of here) are now men, so this can happen at any time.

I do my best to make this NOT HAPPEN by sending prayers of peace out to the world and, while to some this will sound impossible, I do my best to guard the sky. I also pray over my children, as well as all children.

[WhiteFeather]

I agree Bill, I Believe we have shifted the timeline as well, Many souls that have incarnated to Gaia heard the call of The Universe, stepped up and assisted Mother Earth through many different types of Mediums/Catalysts such as anchoring energy, sending out high frequency's, living in a loving vibrational state etc. Thanks for sharing this with us. The golden age truly awaits us in this new timeline that's just around the corner. Namaste Bill, A Great Inspiring Post. Thanks for sharing this awe inspiring thread with your brothers and sisters of the universe. <:~WF~:>

[SomaSmith]

Thank you Bill. It is good to hear encouraging words for our future. I dream of a world where we " honor, protect, and work ceaselessly for the freedom of all living beings."

Thank you for all of your work and thank you for Avalon.

[nomadguy]

I do NOT believe that this future will happen, that hundreds of us were shown in 1946. I think we’ve avoided it.

Very interesting!
A quick thought
perhaps what you are saying also describes how recall came about or can come about, like a bit of whiplash mind you.
The idea being that, when we avoid certain events in time, we still pass through a sort of event horizon so then the energetic portion still happens and is felt ~ only on this current timeline, without physical dimension. :chess:

I had a strange event in 2009 where I vividly experienced, what felt like a time overlap and a huge cataclysm did occur in LA.
Then it was as if suddenly it wasn't there, like the fog rolled away and there we were continuing on.
A few of my closest friends an family members called me within minutes that morning in quite a daze that was quite similar to my own state of being which I can best describe as breathless confusion. I think it was in the fall of 2009. A day of deja-vu you might say.



to honor, protect, and work ceaselessly for the freedom of all living beings

indeed,
I feel if we can carry this image within we can create a better path in front of us.

Carry on ~

[Fred Ryan]

Wow! Reading your post gave me goose bumps.

I too had a serious stuttering problem as a child and was subjected to constant torment from my class mates. I also have more then likely been abducted, though I have no recall of what takes place during the abductions. I do, however, have a sense that some very important events will be playing out shortly and that I have a part to play.

Thanks for the post!

[ghostrider]

Thanks Bill, I do believe we have made a turn to a better future, the strange sounds heard around the world I believe is earth turning away from a timeline of destruction to a timeline of peace. a SHIFT into a new earth moving off the path that the controllers wanted for earth. BUT awake minds had a different path for earth. the cycle of control that has been here for many ages is changed for ever... all life is sacred, all living things have a right to exist in peace and freedom.... into a new heaven and a new earth we go boldly when no humans have gone before sound familiar ??

[seko]

Bill Ryan
When I was in Tibet, the community I was part of was united by one theme and one mission: to honor, protect, and work ceaselessly for the freedom of all living beings. In my work today, I try to echo that. It's a lesson not only for me, but for us all.

Forming part of this small but outstanding community we follow the same theme and mission.

We will never walk alone.

[Billy]

Many thanks Bill for sharing, I am also curious if you are recalling with regression assistance or some other method.

I had an amazing experience while i was a humanitarian aid worker during the war in Bosnia.
One day the Serbs gave back the bodies of muslim men they had massacred and had been buried for months in a mass grave. as i was watching wives, mothers trying to identify their loved ones who were all lying at the side of the road. with hardly any flesh left on them,
I said to my God. Lord your divine plan sucks. Just as i had said this a voice as clear as water answered me and said. "Well Billy. Create a better plan" That was when i realized that timelines can go in a different direction if we assist in the process. Which is what i have been trying to do ever since that moment.

You and many others have obviously been doing the same Bill. And as Inelia said. We are doing OK

Bless you all

[gooty64]

What would cause anyone to "think" that we have avoided a disastrous future or timelime?

It soounds like wishful thinking to me.

America is still in a state of "collective mental illness" and still consuming at way past a sustainable rate. Everything is corrupted and greed centered.

Oh and the next reply will be something like focus on a positive outcome, your energy flows where your focus goes.

Anyone know how to dismantle 500 nuclear power plants including the one 5 miles from my house?

My gut still says we're in for upheaval. The majority 85% or more in America are still clueless zombies fighting over the crumbs the Elite drop on our floor.

This; I don't see the disaster happening that I saw happening when I was in a past life feels pretty hollow and not too comforting- over here!

[onawah]

Thanks so much Bill. I hope your recent experience will open the floodgates to more healing revelations.
The following really sums up so much for us all.



I do NOT believe that this future will happen, that hundreds of us were shown in 1946. I think we’ve avoided it.

What we were shown was a warning: not a prediction. As Inelia described in her May 2011 Avalon interview, we’re doing really well; and as Bill Wood stated in Kerry’s Camelot interview, we may only be a handful of Grandmaster chess moves away from an unavoidable checkmate of the black pieces.

The reasons why the benevolent ETs – themselves superhumanly intelligent and psychically gifted, and also deeply caring in a kind of ultimately parental way – have been focusing so intently on Planet Earth is simply to assist us in changing our own timeline. But we ourselves have to do that: they cannot.

The ET presence is simply about that. They have been our teachers: guiding, cajoling and motivating us, in extraordinarily clever and subtle ways (including many of them incarnating as humans), to take responsibility and make free choices that will result in a new collective agreement and therefore in a new collectively experienced reality.

The entire complexity is further entangled by certain ET races that have a vested interest in disaster and/or enslavement, not liberation – and by other races visiting us from the future who are intent on avoiding or changing timelines that from their own point of view have actually already occurred… the ultimate mindbender of all.

[SomaSmith]

What would cause anyone to "think" that we have avoided a disastrous future or timelime?

It soounds like wishful thinking to me.

America is still in a state of "collective mental illness" and still consuming at way past a sustainable rate. Everything is corrupted and greed centered.

Oh and the next reply will be something like focus on a positive outcome, your energy flows where your focus goes.

Anyone know how to dismantle 500 nuclear power plants including the one 5 miles from my house?

My gut still says we're in for upheaval. The majority 85% or more in America are still clueless zombies fighting over the crumbs the Elite drop on our floor.

This; I don't see the disaster happening that I saw happening when I was in a past life feels pretty hollow and not too comforting- over here!

Hi Gooty,

I very much understand your perspective. I am living right in the middle of the evil empire. When I look at the world around me it seems hopeless. The level of ego and ignorance in the average person is off the charts. And the western world seems to be in a tail-spin. What is the worst thing that can happen? We die? I have been of the mindset that I am going to live exactly the life I choose and if external forces choose to attack, so be it. "Live free or die"

My point is... ANYTHING is possible. Maybe the friendly E.T.s or thw white hats will help with the reactors? Maybe the engineers at the plants with the support of our communities can prevent that specific disaster?

As powerful and enlightened as we all are it is easy to forget that we are looking at the universe through a pinhole. We can only comprehend a very small part of our reality. I am only writing all of this to relate to you that I share your view but I choose to focus on the possible outcome where we continue to be... In this reality/dimension/timeline or another.

Said with love and respect,

Soma

[CdnSirian]

Gooty64 - Soma just said what I was trying to get formulated into a decent answer to you. To add to it, it seems upheaval is expected, or maybe planned, looking at the recent laws passed. We may be required to be calm observers to chaos in the near future. We may feel we're just grasping at philosophic straws in order to retain a strong state of mind.

It does seem like we're on a runaway train...yet there are track switches coming up. I do not know how, when , where - I hope to have the presence of mind to stay alert and on the right train. Maybe a lame metaphor :) ...Regards.

[Intranuclear]

Bill, of all people on earth, for some reason your voice resonates most true with me. I joined the forum for this. The interviews you and Kerry made are by far the most important pieces of "information" for me. While I believe in nothing, my ears and eyes are most open to those I resonate with most. I believe in nothing because no thing in this existence is THE truth, everything is. However, some things are easier to hear due to how my own perception works for now. So I thank you for all your work and your words and your existence!

Thanks!

[another bob]

Hiya Bill!

First off, Thanks so much for your efforts! You have a true Bodhisattva spirit, and are a fine servant of humanity! Moeover, as a child, I too was shown scenes of utter nuclear annihilation. I recall walking through cities ablaze, and these experiences served to prod me in the direction of service to humanity. Because I knew of no other avenues at the time, I ended up entering a Catholic Seminary at 13, with the intent on helping as many as possible to find relief from the fear hanging over everyone and everything. I studied there for 7 years, before eventually realizing that religion was no longer an appropriate vehicle of service, and so I embarked on a search for the real truth that could relieve the suffering I witnessed all around me.

That being said, it's important to remember that none of this stuff is actually real (including "humanity" with their various white, black, or polka dot hats). There are no timelines, since the world itself is an elaborate illusion. Viewed with clear and open eyes, there’s neither birth nor death, neither appearance nor disappearance, neither creation nor destruction, neither bondage nor liberation. There’s none who works for freedom nor is there any who is liberated – this is the truth I found.

The wise know that there’s neither unity nor plurality – the world is neither one nor many. It's more like a virtual reality game, and we have taken our places here in these game bodies to test ourselves, to see what we are really made of deep down at the core. Whatever appears in life or vision is part of that test, to gauge what our reaction will be. We are not here to acquire some enlightenment that is not already true of us, and progress through various stages until we arrive at some exalted destination. We ourselves are the destination -- we go nowhere. There's never been a human being in need of honor, protection, and freedom. That's all props and stage sets for the game, the play of consciousness, the dream.

The external world has no existence independent of the consciousness which perceives it. Mere perception and practical utility cannot prove the reality of the world. For even in dreams there is perception and practical utility – water in a dream can quench the thirst in a dream as much as real water can quench real thirst. The waking state is on par with the dream state and both are real within their own order -- that's important to recognize. But from the ultimate standpoint both are unreal.

Reality is the pure Self – the ultimate subject, which is pure consciousness. But it is not the empirical self because that which has empirical existence cannot be ultimately real. The real is the consciousness, which is immanent in both the subject and the object and yet transcends them both. It transcends the trinity of the knower, known and knowledge. It has neither attachment nor connection nor relation to anything else. It is self-proved, self-existent, innate and uncaused. Even to say that it is the “unborn” is valid only from the empirical standpoint – for it is beyond the intellect.

The self-luminous Source, by the power of its own illusion (Maya), imagines itself by itself and it is this Self which cognizes the ephemeral diversity of the world, with all its drama and shifts and upgrades and downgrades, and so forth and so on to infinity. Just like a rope, which is mistaken for a snake, the Self is mistaken to be the individual subjects, the mental states and external objects that constitute our 3-D take on what's what. And just as when the rope is known, the imagined snake vanishes, likewise when the non-dual Self is realized, the duality of subject and object disappears.

The non-dual Self is realized when the individual self (soul) passes the tests it has established for itself in the 3-D program and is awakened from its amnesia. The Absolute is unborn, dreamless, sleepless, motionless, where all the categories of the intellect are merged, where all duality ceases – there’s neither going to nor coming from it. It is the Lord immanent in the universe abiding in the hearts of all. It is realized by the sages who know the essence of reality, and are free from fear, anger and attachment to any dreamy outcome arising from virtual causes and conditions.

The Absolute is like space and souls are like space placed in containers of various sizes, shapes, and descriptions. When the bottle is broken open, the space in the container merges into the open space. Likewise when ignorance is destroyed through direct recognition, the soul merge into Source. Spaces in bottles may differ in form, function and name, but still there’s no difference in space. Likewise though the souls may differ in form, function and name, still there’s no difference in Source. All elements, subjective as well as objective, are by their nature serene from the beginning, unborn and merged in the Absolute. They are so because they are nothing else than Source itself, which is unborn, uncaused -- only. In truth, there is only "This". All else is ignorance, delusion -- virtuality.

So what’s this apparent prison, this container, which is cause of our seeming bondage?

The container is nothing but ignorance. The test is to see through the delusion. Duality is the product of the intellect and when the intellect is transcended, duality disappears. What’s left is pure awareness, devoid of all thought determinations and imagination. It is the serene eternal Light behind the mind. It is incomprehensible bliss, which transcends happiness and misery. It is indescribable, unborn, changeless and non-dual.

If I was to cut to the bottom line, I'd say . . .

it's You!


:yo:


"We live in illusion and the appearance of things. There is a reality. We are that reality. When you understand this, you see that you are nothing, and being nothing, you are everything. That is all."

~Kalu Rinpoche

[gooty64]

There has to be something between "utter catastrophe" and "Oh, my timeline is happy now".

It seems pretty obvious a major precipitating event will cause upheaval, followed by period of unrest, suffering, rebuilding etc.

Right?

[christian]

You got some guts Bill :)

[Ian Gordon]

Thank you Bill, for some reason reading your words made me cry a single tear that rolled down my cheek. it also brought back memories of a "vison" i was shown of my near by city destroyed and over grown as it had not seen man kind for many years. As child I was also born with speach issue, and have experienced time loss and other things associated with abduction, but with no real cast iron foundation.....you have (once again) given me food for thought, thank you Bill

[Intranuclear]

Dear Gooty,

While on most days I completely agree with you, I am also very aware that the most effective voting mechanism is the vote with your pocket. This does not mean I vote wisely all the time. But I am painfully aware of what my not so wise votes lead to.

[Mike]

thanks for sharing that, Bill.

a nice lead in to part 2 of the Avalon interview, perhaps?

[CdnSirian]

Hiya Bill!

First off, Thanks so much for your efforts! You have a true Bodhisattva spirit, and are a fine servant of humanity! Moeover, as a child, I too was shown scenes of utter nuclear annihilation. I recall walking through cities ablaze, and these experiences served to prod me in the direction of service to humanity. Because I knew of no other avenues at the time, I ended up entering a Catholic Seminary at 13, with the intent on helping as many as possible to find relief from the fear hanging over everyone and everything. I studied there for 7 years, before eventually realizing that religion was no longer an appropriate vehicle of service, and so I embarked on a search for the real truth that could relieve the suffering I witnessed all around me.

That being said, it's important to remember that none of this stuff is actually real (including "humanity" with their various white, black, or polka dot hats). There are no timelines, since the world itself is an elaborate illusion. Viewed with clear and open eyes, there’s neither birth nor death, neither appearance nor disappearance, neither creation nor destruction, neither bondage nor liberation. There’s none who works for freedom nor is there any who is liberated – this is the truth I found.

The wise know that there’s neither unity nor plurality – the world is neither one nor many. It's more like a virtual reality game, and we have taken our places here in these game bodies to test ourselves, to see what we are really made of deep down at the core. Whatever appears in life or vision is part of that test, to gauge what our reaction will be. We are not here to acquire some enlightenment that is not already true of us, and progress through various stages until we arrive at some exalted destination. We ourselves are the destination -- we go nowhere. There's never been a human being in need of honor, protection, and freedom. That's all props and stage sets for the game, the play of consciousness, the dream.

The external world has no existence independent of the consciousness which perceives it. Mere perception and practical utility cannot prove the reality of the world. For even in dreams there is perception and practical utility – water in a dream can quench the thirst in a dream as much as real water can quench real thirst. The waking state is on par with the dream state and both are real within their own order -- that's important to recognize. But from the ultimate standpoint both are unreal.

Reality is the pure Self – the ultimate subject, which is pure consciousness. But it is not the empirical self because that which has empirical existence cannot be ultimately real. The real is the consciousness, which is immanent in both the subject and the object and yet transcends them both. It transcends the trinity of the knower, known and knowledge. It has neither attachment nor connection nor relation to anything else. It is self-proved, self-existent, innate and uncaused. Even to say that it is the “unborn” is valid only from the empirical standpoint – for it is beyond the intellect.

The self-luminous Source, by the power of its own illusion (Maya), imagines itself by itself and it is this Self which cognizes the ephemeral diversity of the world, with all its drama and shifts and upgrades and downgrades, and so forth and so on to infinity. Just like a rope, which is mistaken for a snake, the Self is mistaken to be the individual subjects, the mental states and external objects that constitute our 3-D take on what's what. And just as when the rope is known, the imagined snake vanishes, likewise when the non-dual Self is realized, the duality of subject and object disappears.

The non-dual Self is realized when the individual self (soul) passes the tests it has established for itself in the 3-D program and is awakened from its amnesia. The Absolute is unborn, dreamless, sleepless, motionless, where all the categories of the intellect are merged, where all duality ceases – there’s neither going to nor coming from it. It is the Lord immanent in the universe abiding in the hearts of all. It is realized by the sages who know the essence of reality, and are free from fear, anger and attachment to any dreamy outcome arising from virtual causes and conditions.

The Absolute is like space and souls are like space placed in containers of various sizes, shapes, and descriptions. When the bottle is broken open, the space in the container merges into the open space. Likewise when ignorance is destroyed through direct recognition, the soul merge into Source. Spaces in bottles may differ in form, function and name, but still there’s no difference in space. Likewise though the souls may differ in form, function and name, still there’s no difference in Source. All elements, subjective as well as objective, are by their nature serene from the beginning, unborn and merged in the Absolute. They are so because they are nothing else than Source itself, which is unborn, uncaused -- only. In truth, there is only "This". All else is ignorance, delusion -- virtuality.

So what’s this apparent prison, this container, which is cause of our seeming bondage?

The container is nothing but ignorance. The test is to see through the delusion. Duality is the product of the intellect and when the intellect is transcended, duality disappears. What’s left is pure awareness, devoid of all thought determinations and imagination. It is the serene eternal Light behind the mind. It is incomprehensible bliss, which transcends happiness and misery. It is indescribable, unborn, changeless and non-dual.

If I was to cut to the bottom line, I'd say . . .

it's You!


:yo:


"We live in illusion and the appearance of things. There is a reality. We are that reality. When you understand this, you see that you are nothing, and being nothing, you are everything. That is all."

~Kalu Rinpoche

Hat off to you Another Bob, and a humble bow to Kalu Rinpoche.

[Bill Ryan]

Bill, Can I ask how you manage to have clear recall of past lives, is it through meditation or with the help of others??Scientology processing. Not regression or hypnosis. A very sharp, clean and and clear ‘knife’ that (in ethical and well-trained hands) cuts through absolutely anything.

But this particular event was exposed with the loving help of a very close friend. I was unaccountably and extraordinarily upset about a social incident that had occurred, and was experiencing a disproportionate amount of pain and anger (always a clue!). My friend held the space for me and made it safe for me to reach inside and discover the real truth about what was going on. The details I then uncovered in processing the next day.


Thank you for sharing Bill. Do you think the proceeding contact that followed was a continuation of the past life abduction experience? Is your contact continuing today?Yes, I think I was being monitored (and possibly ‘upgraded’ in some way). This is also why I was with my girlfriend Angi in 1982-85, whose story I tell in my Freedom Central interview and who was like a [sort of!] version of Inelia in her demeanor of innocence, clarity and perception. (She was the one who told me, over breakfast, with the words coming through her, not from her: “The Earth is a very beautiful place: It won’t always be this way.”)

I’m only aware of one abduction experience this lifetime. That does not mean there have not been others.


I was shown WWIII, and the part of it as it related most personally to me, as my son was broken from the battle, mentally, physically, and spiritually. The part I saw was being fought on U.S. soil, as the U.S. had been declared a war zone. It was on the U.S. Mexican boarder, what I consider to be "hot spot", for more reasons than one. first, it's the boarder... Second, and this is very important, water. Water is a big issue.

I also saw weapons and those were photonic in nature. The slang for the weapon was Phist, like "Phist 'em! Phist 'em all." The weapons didnt' destroy buildings, (but I might be wrong on this.) THis war is also affiliated with the ongoing and seemingly never ending war on terror. Both of my sons, (even though I have reason to believe it is my second born who I write of here) are now men, so this can happen at any time.

I do my best to make this NOT HAPPEN by sending prayers of peace out to the world and, while to some this will sound impossible, I do my best to guard the sky. I also pray over my children, as well as all children.Please say more. Was this a dream, a vision, or an abduction experience?

[sunnyrap]

I have reason to believe I had contact when I was in college (I'm contemporary to Bill) because of a classic ufo sighting-experience on a lonely rural road one night. I'm curious how you finally managed to push through the barriers to get at your experience, Bill. I've tried life regression by license therapists, but never uncovered what happened during my missing time. Not that I've had any sense of dread about it. A few years after that, I miraculously survived a terrible car wreck while driving a lonely road in a desert that totally reoriented me to a life of a truth-seeker. I've had many dreams of aliens and ships since then--but never of any disasters befalling earth. (Though I once had a dream of a giant, dirigible-shaped alien ship with friendly aliens loading crowds of people onto it using levitation).

For whatever good effects this is worth, I have determined from my lifelong study of metaphysics that you choose the timeline/dimension you wish to experience. They're all out there ready for you to activate in your life...or not. Sometimes these choices are influenced by others' thoughts/fears hopes, wishes...or the hopes/wishes that you accepted from what others, think/believe is possible if/when you lacked the self confidence for whatever reason to make up your own.

I had a vision in my youth in which I saw a fanned array of paths erupt from each step I took. So, it seemed to me it is of tantamount importance that we strive for the best possible mental-emotional-physical balance and health and that we remain aware of our thoughts and beliefs. 'Believing is Seeing' rather than 'Seeing is Believing'. We are all very psychic, whether consciously or unconsciously, and all picking up on each other's 'transmissions'. A good practice is to constantly ask yourself, 'whose thought/belief/feeling is this?'. If it isn't yours, when you ask the question, it will dissipate. If it is yours, you can consider if you want to keep or dispose of it, but always keep focused on the future you wish to create-have. Could be earth, and we with her, is going to change in ways particular to our individual needs. If you have a taste for hair-raising high adventure, this might be intense catastrophia; if not, you may be whisked away on a pleasant cruiser. Others may just check out before hand to destinations only they desire.

Happy sailing...

[Intranuclear]

Another Bob,

If I were to follow your belief that nothing is real, then I can choose to ignore my daughter's pleas for my attention now, knowing that my choice will lead to something positive (a lesson learned) in the end anyway. After all, she is not real also. In fact, my perception of self is not real, nor is this blurb that you are reading. In fact, why even bother to post? Those reading are not real, thus you are just typing to yourself.

Sincerely, simply another point of view....

[Wind]

I have always felt that Tibet means something important to me (among many other places), but I just don't know why! I really would want to know about my past lives. The Veil of Forgetfulness exists for a reason, but it' sometimes frustrating to be just this "person" that I am now, if you know what I mean. I want to learn more...

We are so much more than a simple human beings. We are divine and we should never underestimate our true potential.

[christian]

Another Bob,

If I were to follow your belief that nothing is real, then I can choose to ignore my daughter's pleas for my attention now, knowing that my choice will lead to something positive (a lesson learned) in the end anyway. After all, she is not real also. In fact, my perception of self is not real, nor is this blurb that you are reading. In fact, why even bother to post? Those reading are not real, thus you are just typing to yourself.

Sincerely, simply another point of view....

It's all still there but it's possible to come to a higher understanding of the nature of what it is, where it came from, where it will go and what your relation to it is - all unclouded by pettiness.

It's not about ignoring, it's about understanding and transcending.

---

Bob's post is spot on, I find, but it cannot enlighten others, considering that everyone has to come to a genuine enlightenment from within.

But maybe some people get reminded of a forgotten innate knowing by him telling his view, for what it's worth, I appreciate it...

[BestLion]

That is quit amazing you have the clear gift of knowing in detail some of your past lives. seems your last life was ended short, I wonder what happened and if that event triggered the path that you took today on investigating the supernatural and other issues?
This 1939-1949 was quit an eventful time for UFos I study quit a lot about WW2 and post WW2 and i would have to say that time it seems we had many abductions, visits and assistance by ETs. In 1946 was also Operation highjump which it appears also the US Navy encountered ETs-UFOs And what is very fascinating is this operation also began in Sep 1946 the same time as your alien abduction.
Bill can you recall which species of aliens did you encounter? Or Nordics? Reptilians?
I think reincarnation is very real, and so is past lives, i have been tring to recall my past life, and once in a dream I believe I seen a glimpse of who I was before. I was a soldier of the state of Virginia, who was killed in the confederate army during the battle of 7 Days in 1862.

I have always felt that Tibet means something important
Yes, Let me note something on Tibet, The Nazis were into the occult very heavy and that movie 7 years in Tibet with Brad Pitt..was not about Mt Climbing, but about them searching for a lost city, and the birthplace of humans. The Nazis said Tibet has a very deep meaning, very spiritual, and much power there.

[Mike]

not sure if this is anything or not...

between the ages of 8-15 yrs old i had a recurring dream that went something like this:

i'm travelling in my family's station wagon, seemingly on some sort of vacation. it's sunny, and the greenery is whizzing past the windows. the strange thing is, nobody is saying a word and everyone(all 6 of us) are facing forward and sitting unusually and i think forcibly erect in our seats. i'm overwhelmed with an ominous sensation.

then, slowly, 1 by 1, my family members start vanishing. i try to scream but i can't. i try to move but am unable to. finally everyone is gone and i regain movement; and with this movement i reach over to take the wheel. then i feel tingly and odd, and there is the unmistakable sensation of floating.

the dream so frightened me that i never told a single soul.

now, this in and of itself is not all that unusual; what is, however, is the fact that my sister was having the same exact dreams i was at right about the same time - she related it to me when she was 16 and i was 18. i was shocked. even though i was certain i had not shared my dream with her in the past, it didn't stop me from asking if i had. she reaffirmed that i had not. we both were overcome with a severe case of the goosebumps;)

this may be a remarkable coincidence, but i can't help but think that it is somehow abduction-related. however, i have no furthur experiences or rememberances to suggest that it is.

[Cidersomerset]

Sounds like a possible experiance Chinaski as George Noory would say ''There is no such thing as a coincidence''.......

Best Lion Bill was abducted by Grays up mount Makalu....Floated out his tent...Now thats a exit..
and two fellow climbing buddies were in the tent with him....

http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/803464/803464,1307893142,10/stock-photo-makalu-the-fifth-highest-mountain-in-the-world-79063444.jpg

Makalu the 5th highest mountain in the world .....

I hope thats right Bill is watching..LOL...Steve

[BestLion]

Cidersomerset thanks I did have a hunch it was the greys.
I want to note something on what Bill has been talking about of a 'event being avoided,"' and also about Tibet>
Tibetan monks it is said are adept at ‘remote viewing’. Tourists visiting Tibetan monasteries have allegedly brought back stories about ETs saving Earth from the coming catastrophe in 2012.
According to these tourists remote viewers are seeing world powers in the course of self-destruction. They also see that the world will not be destroyed. Between now and 2012 the world super powers will continue to engage in regional wars. Terrorism and covert war will be the main problem. In world politics something will happen in and around 2010. At that time the world powers will threaten to destroy each other.

Between 2010 and 2012, the whole world will get polarized and prepare for the ultimate dooms day. Heavy political maneuvers and negotiations will take place with little progress.

In 2012, the world will start plunging into a total destructive nuclear war. Scientific interpretation of the monks’ statements makes it evident that the Extra Terrestrial powers are watching us every step of the way. They will intervene in 2012 and save the world from self-destruction.

When asked if these extra-terrestrials will show up in reality in 2012, the answers remote viewers are giving are: they will reveal themselves in such a way that none of us are scared. They will reveal themselves only if they have to. As our science and technology progresses, we are destined to see them and interact with them anyway.

[000]

A wonderful post, Bill, thanks for sharing your experiences :)

I have had much time spent in other realms out-of-body each night and have had countless experiences of parallel (past-present-future occurring at the same nexus in perceived linear time) timelines.

I do not record most of these experiences as I enter into them with specific purposes (timeline healing and switching most often) however I can recall many encounters of timelines where the Earth was on fire literally, other ones have had asteroid/comet impacts, events of that nature. I was never frightened in any of them and it was always curiously peaceful. However, they are only the minority of what I have experienced in those realms. I have had such tremendous experiences in future versions of this world which were of a positively vibrant and healthy world. Sometimes I have come back from those experiences with quiet tears of relief and joy and immense periods of afterglow, the residual 'aftertaste' of experiencing those futures.

I have also encountered a variety of forms of beings in those realms, humanoid and non-humanoid, of various levels of advancement, although it would be more accurate to say that they have varying 'specialties' and not so much that they were more or less advanced than each other. Their energies are really impossible for me to describe with words but they are very centred, noble and compassionate. I have encountered a minority of negative beings but in all of those cases they were dealt with in manners specific to those given situations and they have not come anywhere 'near' me since.

I have trained myself in using lucid dreaming as the base operating system to travel and work in these realms while incarnated in this current body. I have only had one nexus life on Earth previous to this one and it did come back to the surface earlier in 2011 and I had to heal some aspects of those versions of self. In that life, the body I had then died early on similar to how Bill mentioned his past life likely did not exceed 30 years of age. My past life situation was different in that I was a heroin addict punk in the 1970s~ and it may have been what killed me (possible overdose) although I am not 100% certain yet and have left that as 'pending'. Another possibility currently is that I was stabbed. The former possibility seems more likely however.

I have had abduction-like experiences, in that my energy body is bilocated and 'tweaks' are made and more recently data is input into it for use in this life which directs every move I make. I know it is purely benevolent however, as I know on the energetic level, it is my 'family', not my flesh family but my 'family' family, who are aiding me in what it is I am here to do. 'We' are not physical beings usually and I sometimes have to chuckle when I wonder, through my amnesia, what exactly was so strong that it drew me to incarnate physically when I could have done my work a lot more effectively without being incarnated in a physical vehicle? I know I am wrong about that though whenever I question it and that being physically incarnated has specific importance for a lot of beings who are here incarnated in physical bodies but otherwise would not have chosen to do so if they did not know the effectiveness of having 'boots on the ground' so to speak.

The lives prior to the two Earth lives I am not yet 'allowed' to see fully. The reasoning behind that is that if I knew too soon, it would cause such emotional upheaval that I would not wish to remain here physically. So I live a somewhat paradoxical life here. It is so very hard to put into words, as much as I wish I could accurately communicate it.

Regarding past lives, a dear friend of mine has enlightened me to the idea of a Life-Grid. This essentially is a label for all infinite versions of self. Lives lived, living and yet to be lived. All of these occur in parallel with each other at the zero point where you as a genuine immortal soul are the nexus for all of these lives and you can access all of them depending on what you are here for. In my case, I can't access all of mine, only a tiny few currently, as I mentioned because of potential emotional distress.

So, for example, my 'past' life here on Earth still exists and that version of self is still 'alive' on another braid of timelines parallel to this braid of timelines. To put it simply, what I had done earlier in 2011, in this life, and my 'nexus' awareness at zero-point (the realm of pure consciousness), is created a temporary bridge between this life and that life, which allowed my current versions of self to heal those versions of self and then seal off that braid of timelines once more from this one. It was not an emotionally pleasant experience. Imagine white hot burning melancholy... that is how I had to feel for a couple months while healing that life. It turned out well though and that pain no longer exists. It only exists in the sense that it is now a data record of the pain in that life. So now I move on to other 'missions' which I must navigate for the most part blindly, like a single-blind study, so there is no potential for error in my actions with regards to how I planned for them to unfold prior to being born.

I know it is fairly warped and intense to wrap one's head around and not easy to discuss in written or spoken word but I thought I would share anyhow :)

As I have been reiterating in a few posts lately, I sense so strongly that we are on a braid of timelines which shall lead to a world re-infused with beauty, creativity, compassion, abundance, freedom and self-responsibility. Yes, it takes work to get there, and the momentum behind this braid of timelines, the electric charge which fills them, is so great now, that it cannot be stopped. The whole of my life-grid feels that indeed this is the end of tyranny and destruction. We are all participating in dismantling it in our own ways which I am positive quite a few of us had planned before birth or at the very lead had created solid guidelines for ourselves to follow.

I know on the surface the world looks so dark lately but you are seeing the local universe purging the toxins from its system much like what occurs to you when you go on an Ayahuasca journey in the dreamtime. All of this strife, the economy coiling into itself, it is all only symptomatic of shifts going on at the zero-point level. We shall make it through this together and much like what Inelia said in her interview with Bill, there is no 'ceiling' to this. Your creative potential is limitless, especially when you put it into direct action.

I hope my post has not been too long winded, as that can be a habit of mine when there is so much information to share that has so many layers to describe. This is barely even a nutshell, but I do not want to go on for many novels worth of lines.

:ph34r::wub::ph34r:

[Brodie75]

Thank's for that Bill. I was just wondering if the messages/images you were shown by the visitors in your last life time
was similar to your abduction on the mountain. ( if you can remember)
Thanks again Bill

[LesliesFarm]

What would cause anyone to "think" that we have avoided a disastrous future or timelime?

It soounds like wishful thinking to me.

America is still in a state of "collective mental illness" and still consuming at way past a sustainable rate. Everything is corrupted and greed centered.

Oh and the next reply will be something like focus on a positive outcome, your energy flows where your focus goes.

Anyone know how to dismantle 500 nuclear power plants including the one 5 miles from my house?

My gut still says we're in for upheaval. The majority 85% or more in America are still clueless zombies fighting over the crumbs the Elite drop on our floor.

This; I don't see the disaster happening that I saw happening when I was in a past life feels pretty hollow and not too comforting- over here!

Hi Gooty,

I very much understand your perspective. I am living right in the middle of the evil empire. When I look at the world around me it seems hopeless. The level of ego and ignorance in the average person is off the charts. And the western world seems to be in a tail-spin. What is the worst thing that can happen? We die? I have been of the mindset that I am going to live exactly the life I choose and if external forces choose to attack, so be it. "Live free or die"

My point is... ANYTHING is possible. Maybe the friendly E.T.s or thw white hats will help with the reactors? Maybe the engineers at the plants with the support of our communities can prevent that specific disaster?

As powerful and enlightened as we all are it is easy to forget that we are looking at the universe through a pinhole. We can only comprehend a very small part of our reality. I am only writing all of this to relate to you that I share your view but I choose to focus on the possible outcome where we continue to be... In this reality/dimension/timeline or another.

Said with love and respect,

Soma

I'm sure that Gooty's point is not lost on any of us here. However, we already have the numbers we need so those 80 or 90 percent can come along at their own pace. We know that it is up to us and plenty of us are engaged in that effort every day.

The "powers" have led us to believe that eliminating poverty is impossible and that cleaning up the environment is an impossibly huge job. But, "they" already have the numbers on both of these projects: $200 billion. That is the number the UN computed. That isn't a fraction of what is stolen from us in a year. I am a Permaculturist and I assure you that along with my brother and sister gardeners, we will clean and beautify this planet to a level that is hard for even restoration experts to imagine. All we need is to care enough to do it. The cost is small and the reward is living in Eden.

Leslie

[CdnSirian]

000 - "Regarding past lives, a dear friend of mine has enlightened me to the idea of a Life-Grid. This essentially is a label for all infinite versions of self. Lives lived, living and yet to be lived. All of these occur in parallel with each other at the zero point where you as a genuine immortal soul are the nexus for all of these lives and you can access all of them depending on what you are here for." Thanks for posting this. I relate to it.

[Jake]

000 Said: I have had abduction-like experiences, in that my energy body is bilocated and 'tweaks' are made and more recently data is input into it for use in this life which directs ever move I make. I know it is purely benevolent however, as I know on the energetic level, it is my 'family', not my flesh family but my 'family' family, who are aiding me in what it is I am here to do. 'We' are not physical beings usually and I sometimes have to chuckle when I wonder, through my amnesia, what exactly was so strong that it drew me to incarnate physically when I could have done my work a lot more effectively without being incarnated in a physical vehicle?

Very well said! Many of our lives are reflecting this type of interaction. Yes, it is our family, better yet, it is US. I know and understand this in amazing ways. I suspect that Avalon is a haven for such individuals, seeking to recover lost memories of an existence elsewhere. Very 'DeloresCannon-esque'! I, too have been shown cataclysms, and possible futures. Definately enough to light a fire underneath me and motivate me to stand in my power and shine my light. Like Yoda, said,,, the future is always changing. (And for the better, I contend.) Having the courage to embrace our experiences will help unhinge us from the belief systems that seem to run 'amuck' on this planet. Thank you Bill, for being a leader with regards embracing your experiences and showing us how to stand in our power and shine our lights.

[SomaSmith]

000 - "Regarding past lives, a dear friend of mine has enlightened me to the idea of a Life-Grid. This essentially is a label for all infinite versions of self. Lives lived, living and yet to be lived. All of these occur in parallel with each other at the zero point where you as a genuine immortal soul are the nexus for all of these lives and you can access all of them depending on what you are here for." Thanks for posting this. I relate to it.

Synchronicity... CdnSirian, I have been trying to quote that exact paragraph from 000. I'm on my tablet pc and it gives me trouble.

Thank you 000. I very much enjoyed reading your post.

[jp11]

As a child I remember a time when I was about 4. I woke up my mother crying. She was upset because I couldn't explain to her satisfaction why I was crying...someone was there coming to get me. After she went back to bed and it was dark again that someone was back, so I cried quietly and then I remember nothing.

Years later I recalled the incident and along with other things that had occurred in my life I knew I had been taken. I have no recall of what transpired. Along that same time frame of memory I was involved in a large spiritual group. We were doing a group meditation of sorts (several hundred of us) and the direction was to help heal the earth. Instead of seeing what others described I saw a pristine, beyond imaging, magnificent, beautiful Mother Earth...crystal clear waters, glorious trees and vegetation, spacious lands and mountains... I could go on and on.

I refused to let others convince me what I saw was not what was to come. I have held onto that vision for over 25 years...and have known I have a purpose here. What it is I can't be sure :) but I would say I am here to hold steadfast to my picture of reality of what is already so and will be a reality for all to see, who so choose, at some point in our collective story. I also believe I am to be a calming influence for those who may require that, if or when things become unsettled.

And another aside I have felt observed, monitored, watched over for years and years. I finally got to the point that I gave up being embarrassed in what I thought should be private moments. :)

Thank you Bill for your continued actions and communications to assist in the creation of a world of amazing wonders for all.

There was a movie, the sequel to 2001 Space Odyssey, and the line I'll never forget is "there is something wonderful coming" and then the character laughs. Another thing that I hold onto, no matter what others choose to believe or say.

[Billy]

There has to be something between "utter catastrophe" and "Oh, my timeline is happy now".

I would say that would be the longest journey a soul can ever travel. from the head to the heart.and perception :grouphug:


It seems pretty obvious a major precipitating event with cause upheaval, followed by period of unrest, suffering, rebuilding etc.

Right?

Have we not had enough of that boring old timeline :drama:

[Conaire]

Thanks for sharing Mr. Ryan.
With utmost respect, Conaire.

[TraineeHuman]

Another Bob,

If I were to follow your belief that nothing is real, then I can choose to ignore my daughter's pleas for my attention now, knowing that my choice will lead to something positive (a lesson learned) in the end anyway. After all, she is not real also. In fact, my perception of self is not real, nor is this blurb that you are reading. In fact, why even bother to post? Those reading are not real, thus you are just typing to yourself.

Sincerely, simply another point of view....

In Indian philosophy, reality is sometimes characterised as ultimately being made of Sat, Chit and Ananda. If I remember correctly, Sat is truth. I guess another bob's post is a good summary of the ultimate truth. Any sufficiently "advanced" being would know it to be the truth.

However, Ananda means bliss. I understand such a being would also experience everything as profoundly blissful -- including the worst nuclear holocaust. Such a being, knowing the truth, would also appreciate that the other beings would definitely not experience such tragedies as blissful things.

Because such a being would be empathic, surely that being would have many motivations for working to avert such tragedies. Just one example would be that if such major tragedies happen, they will make it that much harder for the other beings to even consider the possibility that reality is blissful in its true nature, if only they could see it.

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

Bill's story is fascinating and on a personal level, moving. Yet, it does not take an alien abduction in a previous lifetime to realize we are in danger of nuclear war.... When, in meditation, one begins to experience fantastic alternate states of reality and bliss, the usual admonition is to avoid attachment to such states, as it simply leads to more ego attachment and blocks any ability to experience or understand true reality. Peace to all those seeking the Truth.

[Erich]

You're very fortunate to have this. It is not only very interesting, but confirms for you the complexity of your existence, ET, reincarnation, and gives you a clear purpose. I've been asking for some of this magic, but no luck at all.

Erich

[another bob]

Another Bob,

If I were to follow your belief that nothing is real...

Greetings, Friend!

First off, it is not my belief that nothing is real. If it was, then you are right -- why even bother to post? However, my actual words were:

The waking state is on par with the dream state and both are real within their own order -- that's important to recognize. But from the ultimate standpoint both are unreal.

Few are able to recognize the unreality of the dream while in its midst, just as few are able to recognize the unreality of the waking state while in the so-called waking state. Regardless, how we behave in either state is determined by our level of awareness. If we are coming from a limited level of realization, our behavior will reflect our ignorance predicated upon an incomplete view of "what is".

For a more detailed elaboration on what appears to be two conflicting truths about what's "real", please refer to recent threads such as:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39044-System-mechanics-of-human-potential/page2

in which the following link was offered:

http://www.lotsawahouse.org/two-truths-patrul-rinpoche-lotsawa-house

Less academically speaking, your daughter's hypothetical pleas would fall within the category of testing that I spoke of in my original post. How you react to such situations will reveal something to yourself, about yourself, regardless of any philosophical veneer you may superimpose on the episode. You're here in this apparent reality to discover that revelation about yourself, and your daughter's pleas are stage props for that process of self-awakening.

:yo:

[TelosianEmbrace]

Back to the OP.

Hi Bill. You certainly chose a difficult lifetime as that young man. From some point of view, your lifetime may seem futile, for no-one listened. Yet you seeded an alternate reality within the dark and unyielding soil of the Global Soul. :o Your energy stream was picked up upon by others and expanded, even though at the time those immediately around you were somewhat less than appreciative.

I have sensed for quite some time that there was more to the story of 'Bill Ryan' than Bill Ryan was willing to admit or acknowledge, up until now. Life flows, and continues. This revelation will inevitably lead to more personal realisations, and these shall be even more profound and come even easier. Now that you have released the past timeline of destruction, perhaps the obvious question, which has not yet been asked, is what is your vision of the future Earth you would wish to see?
www.projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32399-A-Future-Earth

If there are any who would wish to share their vision of a beautiful future Earth, I for one would love to hear it.

[Selene]

I’ve always had a half-baked theory about why widely-prophesied and published disasters, catastrophes and quakes never seem to materialize.

That is, when something dire – like Bill’s abduction visions – is conveyed to sufficiently large numbers of people in their quantum/potential form (and this was surely the ET’s intention) our instinctive reaction is to psychically scream “No way…..! No…! Stop!”. And we collectively put forward some kind of “rejection” energy that refuses to see the proposed event move forward on a timeline. The potential timeline withers.

This isn’t the same response as “buying into fear” or “fear porn”; it’s an honest and whole-souled rejection of a potential outcome in favor of, well, I-think-I-like-this-life…. It doesn’t need a fancy “you can create another new reality” momentum to work; only that large numbers reject – without clinging to it or fearing it – the unwanted outcome. Many hands make light work.

Anyway. My thought on the possible mechanics behind Bill’s (and others’) experience.

I’ve dubbed it “Quantum Pushback”.

Cheers,

Selene

[onawah]

That rejection energy is not the same as resistance, which ends up defeating itself, since it only fuels what is being resisted.

Rejection is the opposite of Acceptance.

What I would really like to see is more people waking up to is the fact that, by buying into the likelihood of possible negative future scenarios, they are actually ACCEPTING them.

Albeit in a passive way.

It's actually a step further than apathetically doing NOTHING; it's, in a very real way, a vote FOR the negative scenario.

The passiveness is deceptive--it's actually a kind of passive-aggression, ie aggression MASKED as passivity.

That dynamic needs to be examined much more closely, because it is most often done without awareness of the unfortunate consequences.

[spiritguide]

Bill,
Thank you for sharing your path, walking with you on this path just feels right.

:peace:

[Hervé]

To Bill and Bill's friend:

Well done!

Thank you for sharing.

[Mulder]

This is amazing! I feel that I'm an "old soul" and that I've had past lives, but I don't have any concrete knowledge of them. I've felt my whole life that I'm here for a purpose and that this life-time will deal with all my Karma, so I won't need to have more incarnations. Let's all start to see the World as "1/2 full, not 1/2 empty" and see what unfolds this year & beyond. I hope David Icke is right that consciousness will be like a beach-ball held under water & will have to float to the top soon.

[cowens66]

Thank you Bill,

I had tears in my eyes for the young man you were in both lifetimes. I have so much respect for how you have diligently worked through this block in what seems like a never ending quest to bring the truth to all of us.

I had a vibrational reaction while reading. It was like chills but instead of a sudden fleeting run up the back say, it was a lower frequency consistent vibration. That's the best I can do to describe the feeling.

Is it possible for you to share, at some time, more info on how one would go about finding such a well trained person to assist in past life work?

Thank you again for sharing this experience. COwens

[another bob]

Is it possible for you to share, at some time, more info on how one would go about finding such a well trained person to assist in past life work?



http://www.newtoninstitute.org/search.php


:yo:

[truth4me]

Seems to me Bill you had unfinished business that's for sure. Being born in 1953 after dying in 1952.

[WhiteFeather]

What would cause anyone to "think" that we have avoided a disastrous future or timelime?

It soounds like wishful thinking to me.

America is still in a state of "collective mental illness" and still consuming at way past a sustainable rate. Everything is corrupted and greed centered.

Oh and the next reply will be something like focus on a positive outcome, your energy flows where your focus goes.

Anyone know how to dismantle 500 nuclear power plants including the one 5 miles from my house?

My gut still says we're in for upheaval. The majority 85% or more in America are still clueless zombies fighting over the crumbs the Elite drop on our floor.

This; I don't see the disaster happening that I saw happening when I was in a past life feels pretty hollow and not too comforting- over here!

What we think we become, and its that simple. We can shift consciousness by our thoughts, we are that powerful. Listen to the positive messages, many are now resonating with this scenario. The Timeline's i do believe are a changing to our benefit, and we (The Collective) worked hard for this. As Dolores Cannon states on her Convoluted Universe Video, Some will stay on the old earth and work out their Karma, whilst the others looking to let go and live in a peaceful loving world will shift to the new earth. Something Wonderful's Going To Happen, Im taking this message in, and it resonates with me as well as many others.

[drizzt]

This is amazing! I feel that I'm an "old soul" and that I've had past lives, but I don't have any concrete knowledge of them. I've felt my whole life that I'm here for a purpose and that this life-time will deal with all my Karma, so I won't need to have more incarnations. Let's all start to see the World as "1/2 full, not 1/2 empty" and see what unfolds this year & beyond. I hope David Icke is right that consciousness will be like a beach-ball held under water & will have to float to the top soon.



i don't know if i was before or not? i have no flashes or anything. i feel like i am doing everything for the first time.

is this normal?

[Kristin]

First it's great to hear Bill tell a story honestly about himself in such a candid way. Bill, you're a healer here and the more we hear from you the more things seem to relax. But it's the expression that touches me. So much honesty and strength in being vulnerable. It brings you home to us, as a brother, as one of us. Thank you for that and good thoughts in your general direction for the integration that you are going through... and here is yet another life to add on to the others and this present one. Great healing opportunity! Thank you for your shared thoughts.

With the conversation at hand I felt compelled to share.
I've had the joy and sadness of finding that when I am in any given place I can see the timelines spread out from me like a fan. In each geographical location, if I am physically there, I can see/experience the timelines and the things that happen in them. This includes disasters to peaceful union with the planet. It's amazing and frightening at the same time. After reading up on Inelia and spending time with this particular type of "wormhole" travel, I tried with intent to go to other places in spirit to "see" what timelines the future may hold there. I've had incredible results, but not the same intense clarity as when i am physically standing in the location.

The thing that I find interesting is that the timelines are more palpable then they used to be, particularly in the last two years. There are sudden spikes and one timeline can become clearer then another, some will disappear altogether, and others will suddenly appear when there was none. I do not know why I am talking about this right now, but I feel I should just to point out that there has been a change in the last two years that I am observing that is very tangible.

On the positive end, the timelines of peaceful union with the planet have been getting stronger, clearer, and more direct in terms of the work that needs to be done to accomplish this. Meaning that the idea that we can claim back the planet and bring it back to health is becoming more of a reality. It is still wavering, but this is stronger and more prevalent, when just four years ago in many places such a timeline scenario was non existent. More readily apparent, the disaster scenarios are calming down in their intensity.

I usually do not talk about these things, but Bill inspired me to do so.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[truth4me]

This is amazing! I feel that I'm an "old soul" and that I've had past lives, but I don't have any concrete knowledge of them. I've felt my whole life that I'm here for a purpose and that this life-time will deal with all my Karma, so I won't need to have more incarnations. Let's all start to see the World as "1/2 full, not 1/2 empty" and see what unfolds this year & beyond. I hope David Icke is right that consciousness will be like a beach-ball held under water & will have to float to the top soon. There is a guy in my hometown of Blytheville Arkansas who swears he's been on earth 3000 plus years through many incarnations. Without going into much detail I've seen him do things that makes me believe that he believes that he really has been here 3000 plus years.....:faint2:

[lelmaleh]

Thank you for sharing your story Bill, I have watched your and Kerry's videos for quite some time but have never joined a forum before. I have spent much time among Native American people, one tribe in particular and have had enough of my own experiences to know of a higher level of reality. I feel like I have always "known" things and have had flashes of insight all my life where things seem quite obvious but haven't been able to share much of it because I rarely get understanding. One time when I was fasting on a mountain way out, about 20 miles down a logging road with a couple of other women a ship appeared above us. We could not see each other because we had chosen separate fasting places. All night I prayed and all night these two enormous bright lights were above us. I was so curious to leave my altar and get out to a clearer area to see what was there but we had been told to stay inside our protected places. It stayed above us without moving with no noise. I decided that they were observing us so I kept on praying and figured they could read my mind. In the morning one of the women came to where I was very agitated and insisted that we leave. I said I wasn't ready as we were supposed to stay for 3 more days and this had only been the first night. She said "did you see what was up there last night?" I said that I had so she said that was why we had to go. The third woman was also insisting. They were pretty terrified but refused to state what had happened to them. The one said she had to tell the medicine man first and then would tell me later. We drove back in silence and when we got back to the camp she went off and told the medicine man and promptly left and I never saw her again. She seemed really "freaked out" and I wondered if I had missed the whole thing as I felt calm but had really wanted to know what she had experienced. I guess I have wondered in later years if something more had happened to me and I don't remember. I have always had a deep yearning to connect with the vast mystery and am quite excited at the prospect of finally "graduating" to connect with other benevolent beings. Sometimes however I feel a bit isolated on this planet but accept that I guess it's just like that for now for I know that we are not alone. I have done some past life regression a long time ago but at the time, although I could see connections it just seemed like an interesting story. Lately however I have been wanting to explore this again and am planning on it with a Dolores Cannon trained practitioner next week. I congratulate you on becoming more whole and thank you for this wonderful place to connect with others and expand ourselves.

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

No disclaimer?

[DreamsInDigital]

No disclaimer?
What would be the purpose of a disclaimer and why do you feel it would be necessary?

[andrewgreen]

I think disclaimers are irrelevant in a truly free society. Free will in terms of making up your own mind and taking personal responsibility for it is the way forward. I think the basis of what Bill was saying was exactly that, make up your own mind and version of reality and endeavour to make it happen.

[jackovesk]

I am a great believer that 'Words' resonate & the 'Message' is heard by those that need to hear it..!

In the 'Years To Come' it will be Forums/Internet that will be studied for their 'Historical Change of Consciousness Value' and how 'Humanity Overcame' their own 'Enslavement' to the few (PTW/OWO)..!

Thanks for Sharing Bill...

Rgs,

Jack...:yo:

[Douglass]

You are an inspiration to me Bill. Thank you, NaMaStE

[Mark]

I have to say I smiled to see the couple of "no disclaimer" message above, as I wanted to read through the thread and add my voice to the chorus thanking you, Bill, for sharing your multiple life experiences. In one fell swoop you have become a part of the narrative of voices and lives that share a reason for manifesting that includes aspects of the super-reality beyond the control system:

1) alien abduction
2) future timelines/possible scenarios/prediction
3) reincarnation
4) past life blockages

By doing so, adding your experience to the many here in Avalon and elsewhere who have had similar experiences, you have thereby made it just that much easier for others to step forward. To feel comfortable sharing their tales. To feel supported and encouraged. Simultaneously, you have made it that much harder for the pure skeptic of such things as those you've experienced and shared to dismiss out of hand. To laugh at or to speak down to. Your voice is an important one in this community, needless to say, and for you to come down firmly upon this esoteric and alternative ground does the heart of many of us good. The upending of the catastrophic timeline and fear-based hysteria is a difficult one for many to let go of and of course these discussions and preparations are to an extent necessary. But the hope and open-ended potentiality of the message you've shared with us will do a lot of good in helping to lift many from the doldrums of the systemic programming that is so evident even among the so-called Awakened and Aware, the Conscious Community.

[centreoflight]

Thank for this Bill,
as you share your life you inspire me and many others to come forward. I feel that something terrible happened to me before this life, because I can't recall anything in this one which explains why I suffered so much. Like you my through cakra was very closed and I nearly used to speak when I was a child. What I used to do was listening to the transistor radio in my bed. At that time my language was German. I am born in 1955 and in this post war period there was a lot of talk about the holocaust, which impressed me very much. As a small child I decided that I will not harm anybody and that I always would remember the children, because at that time I felt that no adult would understand me.
Very often I have dreams where I am in the military and always I do not want to be there. Last night I was dreaming that I was working for the nazis. In the dream I did what I did because of fear.
There are so many atrocities which happened in the past centuries and I feel that I was involved on both sides in my past lives.
I know that I have much to share and I am committed to do so.

I CHANGE FROM FEAR TO LOVE - BY FORGIVING MYSELF AND OTHERS
I LOVE YOU ALL

[Nortreb]

Many Thanks for the inspiring Post, Bill! This helped place a large piece of the puzzle of our unique connection. ;)

All my best energy to you,

Nortreb

[Rollo]

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Thank you very much Bill for sharing your past life experience. The information you had to forward was so unbelievable that people couldn't believe it. It is interesting that today a lot has changed in this regard. People around me don't reject information on today's situation and "real life", but rather they reflect on this and start connecting the dots. The biggest problem is daily life, work, money, media, culture, etc., which distract people from "seeing".

[jcocks]

Something Wonderful's Going To Happen, Im taking this message in, and it resonates with me as well as many others.

I believe it's more than just that, I think something wonderful has *ALREADY* happened... I don't know why, I just can't accept that this year will see any disasters even close to the severity that have been foretold for these times. Something has happened that has completely mitigated that timeline, and we are now hurtling full-pelt into our galactic future. It's just not obvious yet, as the energy for it to start occurring has to "filter down" to us still... It is beginning to filter down now, but only just. Things will, if I am correct, rapidly (and I do mean *RAPIDLY*) gather pace as the year progresses....

On a 3d here-and-now level, I have the gut feeling that the PTW know that they have lost, and they're scared. They honestly believe we're going to do to them what they have done to us, they're expecting retribution... I believe one of our last tests will be to show these people compassion and forgiveness, despite all the things that have done to us and the technology they have witheld from us.

[charlesfrith]

Hello Bill,

An excellent and well received share. However one small reservation. Would not the countless numbers of people with negative ET abduction experiences find "The ET presence is simply about that" as you write a little too simplistic?

At best it should be "The benevolent ET presence is simply about that" and there's an awfully long post about benevolent appearing ET with long term control plans that isn't necessary here.

Kind rgds

charles/bangkok

[Corncrake]

Something Wonderful's Going To Happen, Im taking this message in, and it resonates with me as well as many others.

I believe it's more than just that, I think something wonderful has *ALREADY* happened... I don't know why, I just can't accept that this year will see any disasters even close to the severity that have been foretold for these times. Something has happened that has completely mitigated that timeline, and we are now hurtling full-pelt into our galactic future. It's just not obvious yet, as the energy for it to start occurring has to "filter down" to us still... It is beginning to filter down now, but only just. Things will, if I am correct, rapidly (and I do mean *RAPIDLY*) gather pace as the year progresses....

On a 3d here-and-now level, I have the gut feeling that the PTW know that they have lost, and they're scared. They honestly believe we're going to do to them what they have done to us, they're expecting retribution... I believe one of our last tests will be to show these people compassion and forgiveness, despite all the things that have done to us and the technology they have witheld from us.

I fear you are right - we should show 'compassion and forgiveness' - and the way I am feeling right now this is going to be difficult for me!

[modwiz]

Something Wonderful's Going To Happen, Im taking this message in, and it resonates with me as well as many others.

I believe it's more than just that, I think something wonderful has *ALREADY* happened... I don't know why, I just can't accept that this year will see any disasters even close to the severity that have been foretold for these times. Something has happened that has completely mitigated that timeline, and we are now hurtling full-pelt into our galactic future. It's just not obvious yet, as the energy for it to start occurring has to "filter down" to us still... It is beginning to filter down now, but only just. Things will, if I am correct, rapidly (and I do mean *RAPIDLY*) gather pace as the year progresses....

On a 3d here-and-now level, I have the gut feeling that the PTW know that they have lost, and they're scared. They honestly believe we're going to do to them what they have done to us, they're expecting retribution... I believe one of our last tests will be to show these people compassion and forgiveness, despite all the things that have done to us and the technology they have witheld from us.

I fear you are right - we should show 'compassion and forgiveness' - and the way I am feeling right now this is going to be difficult for me!

Compassion can come in some very 'efficient' forms. Doing what makes the world a better place, and not for revenge, still leaves a lot of room for 'thoughtful' action. Forgiveness will be called for, but it does not have to equal acting against our better interests for making a better future.

[andrewgreen]

Bill why do you think its significant you have recalled these memories at this time?

[Limor Wolf]

I add my voice in thanks to Bill for this uniquely insightful sharing,and to other members that join his example and feel comfortable to share what is going on with them .This is what defines Avalon in my opinion,as the special forum that it is,wich is constructed of the sum of its members and is following in the steps of its founder.I believe that our observations and discoveries have an important objective to our collective advancment as an aware community,and also to our own personal journeys. so,from the bottom of my heart - thank you all.

I do not feel I can verbalize whatever it is that is going through me right now,and there's a lot,but I am happy that others can.

Bill have touched in his experiences quite a lot of what is happening to us as well.I have noticed for quite some time,that at every certain period of time there is one thing that I chose mostly to concentrate on,for example - an urgent need to spread as much information as possible,then at other time,it might be being in a more observational mode,than its the desire for detoxing (cleaning and prepering our bodies) ,then its the intent to find out about our past lives experiences and in general ,to touch base as much as we possibly can with the wholeness of 'who we are'.

In each of those 'topics' we always find interest,curiosity and a need for more to be revealed,but there are specific periods of time wich seems like there is the need to be drawned even further,to be even more tuned in and to go a lot deeper into each one of those.

I find that my own 'procedure' very much corresponds with that of Bill's,and I can only assume that the 'wind' that blows in our backs is directing us to wherever we need to be,and whatever we need to know,according to the segment of time we are in. If we follow this knowledge,there is no possibility for us to fail. I feel it with all my heart. The only other strong desire is for the rest of society to be able to follow.

Peace and the knowledge of the universe shall prevail.As people of the earth,we are passionetly manifesting our own desire,our own vision for a different way of life,for a higher expression of consciousness and therefore,so it shall be.

My questions to Bill:


"But the last lifetime (1925-1952) has always been obscured. When that happens -- i.e. everything is accessible and available except a certain period -- it always means that there's something sitting there that one just cannot bear to look at."

Do you feel there is a significanse in finding out those pieces of your 'life' puzzle,at this time,rather than earlier? do you feel this 'organized order' I am reffering to is also present in your own life,meaning,almost nothing is randomal? (including scientology assisting you as a tool) .I know those are not good questions since they are a leading questions and are not an open questions,
but I feel reluctant to rewrite it again,and I trust your objectivity)

You make it very clear that what you have been shown (the apocalipse scenario in your 1946 'abduction'),is not the current timeline that we are in,possibly there was a success in diverting that very specific occurance for planet earth,do you feel that this 'success' is for only a certain percentage of us,or is this something that the entire society will 'enjoy' in our coming future.I will appreciate your thoughts on this subject.

slightly out of topic for this thread,but I am curious to know your reflection on this one as well.If the overall picture is that WE,as volunteers came to planet earth at this time (and probably did quite a lot of rehearsals before that -:-) to help raise its vibration,and if reason says that mostly WE are the ones that are going so called to 'be harvasted' and will be able to continue with the advancement of consciousness and with universal knowledge,does it mean that we really came here to help the planet itself and not so much the rest of the people,as it seems each soul has already has its potential intact with the level of the life lessons that it still has to experience.In other words,in your oppinion,are we here for assisting planet earth,for assisting humanity,for assisting ourselves? can there be any other reason?

I hope I am understood,at least partially.
English tough language :-)

Blessings & abundance

~*&^~*&^

Limor

[Mad Hatter]

Mad Hatter dons his observers cap...


we may be only a handful of Grandmaster chess moves away from an inevitable checkmate of the black pieces.

For those who feel there is a need for retribution of sorts keep in mind white moves first....

[Virma De Ris]

Truly inspiring Bill and truly brave too. You have encouraged me to write about some experiences I've had here on this planet.

I have recalled some past lives, from Atlantean priestess, wild west "ranger" to drug addict/prostitute. Recalling these lives have helped me understand that there is really no good or bad that is is just an illusion. I don't know if I had alien encounters before this life but I had plenty now. I've been assaulted by greys since I can remember and by assaulted I mean really bad experiences which I will not write about as I still recent them because I had no help in understanding what was happening to me. In latter years after 2003 I've been able to recall encounters with benevolent species and this has helped me heal a bit about the negative experiences I have since a child. The benevolent species have let me know in a way that I am here to experience and record experiences good or bad like a scout. I've been burned by this and have even rebelled with them pretty much telling them to f off. Still I think this was meant to happen as we are supposed to create our own future and not depend on them.

Anyways as a final thought and the last of the "directives" I was exposed to was in Dec 21 2010 with the energies of that lunar eclipse. My husband and I had a powerful kundalini experience/upgrade and a end of world scenario. To make it short a "man" told me what I've realized when seeing the catastrophic environment. We all going to make it. Nobody dies as end of world scenarios are of human invention. Just tales to create drama and feed this hologram that we call life on Earth.

I don't know if I am right but I can say that the experience helped me greatly not to fear life and not to fear what will happen in the near future.

Blessings to all!

[Limor Wolf]

Do you know how it is when we often tell a child: 'If you will not be carefull,you will fall..' or - 'if you will not pay attention,then this and that will happen..' and it almost hardly happens?

Can it be that the benevolent ET's were simply waving their fingers at us,the same way parents do, showing the messengers a possibility of a future...or probably (as Bill hinted) a future that already happend,but now they are implanting some changes in it. god damn it,I hope that the creator is much more involved somehow than only allowing free will to lead,otherwise,we might come back to him eventually with a full list of complaints.. :)

[Camilo]

Thank you Bill for this thread. I totally resonate with it and know we're on the same group of people working for the planet and humanity, in our own unique ways.

[Billy]

I have never been sure of my experience as a young child 3 to 5yrs old, of what i have always said was a dream or nightmare. This was recurring over those two years. 3 to 5 yrs old. So this would be 1957 -59. We had no TV at that time and stayed in a top floor old stone tenement building made of stone. 4th floor. Our home only had two rooms and a WC, my parents slept in the livingroom and my older sister and i had bunkbeds in the bedroom. She had the top and i the bottom bunk. just to give you the picture.

My dream would begin as a beautiful experience with beings that were of all shapes and sizes, I would be in what i thought was a huge open circular hallway, I would be standing on the floor of this hall and above me on what i thought to be a balcony of some sort which moved round and round with many beings standing on this balcony. Those beings were not from all the same race. Many different types of beings. different colours, shapes and sizes, big heads, long heads, ugly heads etc. remember we had no TV so what i saw was from my own imagination or dream state.

but i was NEVER frightened, In fact i knew i belonged with them. A family sort of feeling of belonging. We would talk but when it was time for me or them to leave, I would cry my heart out. holding my arms up to them I would be crying. Please do not leave me here, I want to come with you. I want to go home with you. Like this i would be screaming.

They would try to comfort me, Billy it is better that you stay. You can come with us but it is better that you stay. One day you will be able to come but for now it is better that you stay here. I would say they expressed a loving concern,

Then the whole scene would change, This is when my reccuring dream changed into a nighmare. I would watch myself being MARCHED through the wall of my bedroom, I say marched because i thought what surrounded me were 5 soldiers. The type you see as the queens guard at the palace with the big elongated helments. They would push me against the wall. Lift their rifles and execute me. One bullet always hit me in the forehead. That would be when i would wake up screaming and mum would rush through.
I remember asking myself. I wonder which soldier shot me. and so when it happened again i tried to watch which rifle the bullet came out that hit me. and i saw it like slow motion coming out of the one in the middle of the five that were always there then it hit me where my third eye is. The nightmare only happened everytime i returned from the beautiful experience.

One morning my sister got up and said to me. Where were you during the night? I got up for the toilet and you were not in bed, I assured her that I was definitely in bed all night. we started to argue because she said she looked under the blankets and i was not there. I just thought she was being stupid and was seeing things. but now i am not so sure.

Remember this happened time and time again over a two year period, until one day when i was 5yrs after it happened again, i sat in bed crying and i suppose i was praying, but asking that i did not want this dream, I remember saying. I like the first part but not the second part, And saying. " I do not understand and I am not ready for this yet"
The dreams stopped and i never had it again.

I mentioned this for the first time to our own Kimberley here on Avalon last year in an interview she done with me on her radio show but not in so much detail.
So this is a first for me sharing this. I feel now that the beings i was with were my universal family from many different civilizations.
And of course now 52yrs later i am ready for more. :happy:

What do you think it was, was it just a dream or something else. I was never sure. Thank you for the space to express and share Bill Ryan

peace

[treeman]

Bill.
Thank you, you are a lighthouse in this storm of uncertainty.
So grateful you are a white knight.

[mojo]

Would not the countless numbers of people with negative ET abduction experiences find "The ET presence is simply about that"

One of the measuring sticks I have always used to determine if a species was benevolent was the fact that they would not abduct people against their will. It seems that there might be a few reasons why a benevolent species might abduct.
1. A human might hurt themselves out of fear.
2. A human might injure an ET out of fear.
I'm still having difficulty with calling abductions a benevolent thing though...

[marique3652]

Would not the countless numbers of people with negative ET abduction experiences find "The ET presence is simply about that"

One of the measuring sticks I have always used to determine if a species was benevolent was the fact that they would not abduct people against their will. It seems that there might be a few reasons why a benevolent species might abduct.
1. A human might hurt themselves out of fear.
2. A human might injure an ET out of fear.
I'm still having difficulty with calling abductions a benevolent thing though...

I am in total agreement about abductions as I was an abduction experiencer repeatedly against my will, long story for another time, and no matter who tries to tell me it was a benevolent and wonderful thing, and that I must have agreed to it at a soul level, I still find that goes against what my higher self tells me. That is not an act of benevolence in my book. Also I have concerns about the concept of so called benevolents like the Ashtar Command and the GLF to the "rescue" scenarios when I read all the rhetoric and that "saving us" requires that they "get rid" of all the human governance and take over the whole governance of how the world is run. That is not my feeling of how a benevolent race or races should be, it feels more like anarchy and coups to me, and it gives me a bad feeling, like humankind would just be handing themselves over to more control, and that "what if" their motives are NOT entirely benevolent? Humankind has been know historically to have been deceived by humans and off-worlders as well. I think that blind faith about who are the "good guys" could be an epic disaster. I know many will jump on me for saying this, but I think that many abduction experiencers would agree with me in my sentiments. Not saying there are not benevolent beings out there that care about our earthly demise, but I do think EXTREME caution be used, and not just blind acceptance of channeled messages that say they are from benevolent species with only humankind's welfare in mind, as a matter of fact I do not even think about channeled messages at all as a guideline of how someone should feel or what will happen, and give no thought to all the "predictions" given by a lot of channelings, I find that a set up for disappointment, and frankly gives great concerns.

I do not totally agree with the numbered points you have made Mojo however, I do not think that #s 1 and 2 are good an valid reasons for abducting people, but I am glad to know that you think that having abductions against one's will and being rendered powerless and out of control of one's body might not be construed as a benevolent action.

[Aurvandil]

Thank you Bill for sharing this, that´s very strong and very inspiring...
Thank you of all of you for sharing your thoughts, comforting and filled with knowledge.

I think, as many of you have said, that if we continue this path of light, we can never loose ourselves.

I just found this beautiful picture that I think sums up our developing skills:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=13305&d=1327946095

Hugs to all of you!
:hug:

[Agape]

Hello Bill ,

long time no see :) Thank you for posting these very details and memories of yours.

They are important , and ring true bells with me which I do not say openly too often . The 'ET - Human Mission' concerns several hundreds of individuals directly and thousands and millions of others ..not to speak of its impact on history of human race as we know it.

One of the interesting point is timing of events ...

for example, my human mum ( I don't dare to go too deep to consequences this 'ET-Human exchange program ' had on her health, faith and life altogether but had to start somewhere there ..) was born in 1947, shortly after war, the same year of Roswell crash.

Barry King was born in 1952 . Few other friends who are now in their 60s and 70s and who prepared the previous generation for the next 'ET baby boom' which happened again some 30 years later, happened to be 'seeded' on Earth around WWII and following few years .


Remember I do not speak and I'm not concerned with, individual ufo sightings ..they happen , here and there, all the time . How many are actual intelligent ET craft approaches is questionable ..


But what I see and observe is that activities of the 'Program' extend over a span of time ..can be a decade or several years on each occasion ,
during which period practical experiments are conduced, samples are taken from several human ethnics and progressed of human race is closely checked and monitored .

Which does not necessarily include or mean making 'disclosure announcements' or 'open sightings' . Because this all story , as you have wisely noted on many occasions is about human responsibility for their own kind .


It's a synchronicity of events perhaps ..yesterday, I felt compelled to explain this point to close friend in the US who also like many, follows the 'news' on Project Camelot ( and from many other alternative sources ) and feels seriously concerned about the faith of this planet .

See if I can find my response ...to fill in few dots ...


The earth as such , a planet , evolves very slowly
it will be here one day when we won't .
But mankind has to change ..
and no matter what your religion is
all living beings are sparkle of Divine Intelligence
wishing peaceful and happy life .
Who are then those who fight and destroy
each others lives, using brute force
to protect their petty little interests ?

They are ill , mind wise .

People say ..the planet needs healing
which is rather true nowadays but the hollow
fact is that nature is powerful enough
to regenerate , even if it happens
on very primitive level
and start again almost from scratch ..

Have you seen this old movie called :
The Day Earth Stood Still ?

If not I recommend .

Mankinds future is in their own hands,
they have to change to survive .
No calendar year or astrological constellation
signifies major break through ,
if you understand the logic of it
they are all man made. The same way
religions are man made .
And reflect intelligence , dreams, troubles,
vocabulary and grammar of people of it's time .

Very few people can capture what exactly
is happening at this time ..
for mankind and it's not in the news .
Not even in the Camelot news .

But between us , I can only share ..
that what is happening around this time( century )
is important for future .

There won't be any big leaps forwards
TILL all are ready . Or at least more ready
than they are now

Know you may not understand from few words
what is it I'm talking about.
But like talking to children..you need
to take responsibility for yourself to your hands.

The intelligence of doing so will be a signal
to the higher powers .
I'm afraid they are not charmed by flower
offerings, sweet smells and promises
given in church ..
But are truly happy for true and intelligent
decisions coming from your original mind.
It signalizes that 'you' have evolved .

And are ready for more knowledge ..

save the idea for later times.

I'm not part of your usual mind stream
so also I'm mostly telling things
you are not ready for . But will be





Personal details omitted . The message is for everybody who have ears to listen ..


Further on, what Bill suggests, those catastrophic scenarios shown to people aboard ET crafts or projected to their mind ..are , without any doubt a WARNING.

I'm lucky there was no need to threaten me that way ( from the ET side of matters ..) as I'm likely , aware of what is good and not and I learn about life on Earth while I am here and of course, it pains me a lot ..to learn how painful it is to live here.



The very next thing that strikes similarity with my experience at the moment ..is the reaction Bill describes he's experienced from others after this 'abduction' and trying to relate to them what has happened .
And that somehow, it all did not fit in, the time and people were not ready and the individual ended his life somehow and took next incarnation to proceed with his true mission and it took many years again to re-learn speaking to people and accomplish his path ..


Not only i can emphatize but in fact, I feel i'm going through similar process ..cunningly , it's some 60 years later from than yet ..
society, mainstream science, and generally ..the stream of human consciousness which plays still bigger n bigger role nowadays becoming more educated , created and cooperative audience ( vis youtube channel productions as an example out of many ) is about ready to admit certain facts ..
such as '' we are not alone in the Universe'' but it may not be ready to know more than this ..
and this is where i come from ..and possibly ..where I return.


To me, as an entity, human life feels odd, no matter what you make it . And if i've already took the pain of going here , there has to be huge solid reason behind it all.

Which means ..no matter what, unless I'm shot or destructed by other means :) i feel it's my duty to leave some data here, for people that can be understood later ..so all my life mission won't be vane .


And then I think ..the inner call says .. ET go home ..





And that's about. Events and truths , no matter how truthful they are , are valid for those with adequate capability of reasoning and in-depth experience which needs so also can accept ..adequate answers ..



Peace & Blessings


:angel:

[delfine]

...............

[delfine]

Hiya Bill!

First off, Thanks so much for your efforts! You have a true Bodhisattva spirit, and are a fine servant of humanity! Moeover, as a child, I too was shown scenes of utter nuclear annihilation. I recall walking through cities ablaze, and these experiences served to prod me in the direction of service to humanity. Because I knew of no other avenues at the time, I ended up entering a Catholic Seminary at 13, with the intent on helping as many as possible to find relief from the fear hanging over everyone and everything. I studied there for 7 years, before eventually realizing that religion was no longer an appropriate vehicle of service, and so I embarked on a search for the real truth that could relieve the suffering I witnessed all around me.

That being said, it's important to remember that none of this stuff is actually real (including "humanity" with their various white, black, or polka dot hats). There are no timelines, since the world itself is an elaborate illusion. Viewed with clear and open eyes, there’s neither birth nor death, neither appearance nor disappearance, neither creation nor destruction, neither bondage nor liberation. There’s none who works for freedom nor is there any who is liberated – this is the truth I found.

The wise know that there’s neither unity nor plurality – the world is neither one nor many. It's more like a virtual reality game, and we have taken our places here in these game bodies to test ourselves, to see what we are really made of deep down at the core. Whatever appears in life or vision is part of that test, to gauge what our reaction will be. We are not here to acquire some enlightenment that is not already true of us, and progress through various stages until we arrive at some exalted destination. We ourselves are the destination -- we go nowhere. There's never been a human being in need of honor, protection, and freedom. That's all props and stage sets for the game, the play of consciousness, the dream.

The external world has no existence independent of the consciousness which perceives it. Mere perception and practical utility cannot prove the reality of the world. For even in dreams there is perception and practical utility – water in a dream can quench the thirst in a dream as much as real water can quench real thirst. The waking state is on par with the dream state and both are real within their own order -- that's important to recognize. But from the ultimate standpoint both are unreal.

Reality is the pure Self – the ultimate subject, which is pure consciousness. But it is not the empirical self because that which has empirical existence cannot be ultimately real. The real is the consciousness, which is immanent in both the subject and the object and yet transcends them both. It transcends the trinity of the knower, known and knowledge. It has neither attachment nor connection nor relation to anything else. It is self-proved, self-existent, innate and uncaused. Even to say that it is the “unborn” is valid only from the empirical standpoint – for it is beyond the intellect.

The self-luminous Source, by the power of its own illusion (Maya), imagines itself by itself and it is this Self which cognizes the ephemeral diversity of the world, with all its drama and shifts and upgrades and downgrades, and so forth and so on to infinity. Just like a rope, which is mistaken for a snake, the Self is mistaken to be the individual subjects, the mental states and external objects that constitute our 3-D take on what's what. And just as when the rope is known, the imagined snake vanishes, likewise when the non-dual Self is realized, the duality of subject and object disappears.

The non-dual Self is realized when the individual self (soul) passes the tests it has established for itself in the 3-D program and is awakened from its amnesia. The Absolute is unborn, dreamless, sleepless, motionless, where all the categories of the intellect are merged, where all duality ceases – there’s neither going to nor coming from it. It is the Lord immanent in the universe abiding in the hearts of all. It is realized by the sages who know the essence of reality, and are free from fear, anger and attachment to any dreamy outcome arising from virtual causes and conditions.

The Absolute is like space and souls are like space placed in containers of various sizes, shapes, and descriptions. When the bottle is broken open, the space in the container merges into the open space. Likewise when ignorance is destroyed through direct recognition, the soul merge into Source. Spaces in bottles may differ in form, function and name, but still there’s no difference in space. Likewise though the souls may differ in form, function and name, still there’s no difference in Source. All elements, subjective as well as objective, are by their nature serene from the beginning, unborn and merged in the Absolute. They are so because they are nothing else than Source itself, which is unborn, uncaused -- only. In truth, there is only "This". All else is ignorance, delusion -- virtuality.

So what’s this apparent prison, this container, which is cause of our seeming bondage?

The container is nothing but ignorance. The test is to see through the delusion. Duality is the product of the intellect and when the intellect is transcended, duality disappears. What’s left is pure awareness, devoid of all thought determinations and imagination. It is the serene eternal Light behind the mind. It is incomprehensible bliss, which transcends happiness and misery. It is indescribable, unborn, changeless and non-dual.

If I was to cut to the bottom line, I'd say . . .

it's You!


:yo:


"We live in illusion and the appearance of things. There is a reality. We are that reality. When you understand this, you see that you are nothing, and being nothing, you are everything. That is all."

~Kalu Rinpoche

Wise words indeed...

[Tantauri]

Bill, Can I ask how you manage to have clear recall of past lives, is it through meditation or with the help of others??Scientology processing. Not regression or hypnosis. A very sharp, clean and and clear ‘knife’ that (in ethical and well-trained hands) cuts through absolutely anything.

But this particular event was exposed with the loving help of a very close friend. I was unaccountably and extraordinarily upset about a social incident that had occurred, and was experiencing a disproportionate amount of pain and anger (always a clue!). My friend held the space for me and made it safe for me to reach inside and discover the real truth about what was going on. The details I then uncovered in processing the next day.


Thank you for sharing Bill. Do you think the proceeding contact that followed was a continuation of the past life abduction experience? Is your contact continuing today?Yes, I think I was being monitored (and possibly ‘upgraded’ in some way). This is also why I was with my girlfriend Angi in 1982-85, whose story I tell in my Freedom Central interview and who was like a [sort of!] version of Inelia in her demeanor of innocence, clarity and perception. (She was the one who told me, over breakfast, with the words coming through her, not from her: “The Earth is a very beautiful place: It won’t always be this way.”)

I’m only aware of one abduction experience this lifetime. That does not mean there have not been others.


I was shown WWIII, and the part of it as it related most personally to me, as my son was broken from the battle, mentally, physically, and spiritually. The part I saw was being fought on U.S. soil, as the U.S. had been declared a war zone. It was on the U.S. Mexican boarder, what I consider to be "hot spot", for more reasons than one. first, it's the boarder... Second, and this is very important, water. Water is a big issue.

I also saw weapons and those were photonic in nature. The slang for the weapon was Phist, like "Phist 'em! Phist 'em all." The weapons didnt' destroy buildings, (but I might be wrong on this.) THis war is also affiliated with the ongoing and seemingly never ending war on terror. Both of my sons, (even though I have reason to believe it is my second born who I write of here) are now men, so this can happen at any time.

I do my best to make this NOT HAPPEN by sending prayers of peace out to the world and, while to some this will sound impossible, I do my best to guard the sky. I also pray over my children, as well as all children.Please say more. Was this a dream, a vision, or an abduction experience?


I have also done a considerable amount of Scientology processing and found it to be a great window into my past and a source of much relief.
One point of emphasis is that like Bill, my work was done with the independent or Freezone Scientology community and NOT with the Church. An important distinction that Bill has made previously.
Terrific story, Bill, and glad to hear of your wonderful release from that event. Well done!
Much love and continued success.

[gooty64]

Wait a minute agape!


There won't be any big leaps forwards
TILL all are ready . Or at least more ready
than they are now


What about the 3% 10% or 15% "critical threshold" or "Tipping Point" to unity consciousness that the love and light crowd have promised me?

[Lazlo]

No disclaimer?

My thoughts exactly. Has anyone read this before?

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A recollection of an abduction in a past life certainly falls into the same general category of information. The most unverifiable of unverifiable information, subject to overlay by the conduit.

I'm not saying that I have a problem with the message itself, I certainly want to believe that we have avoided catastrophe. It does take courage to post such an experience, and Bill is undoubtedly sincere.

Still, I am left scratching my head on this one.

(Lazlo dives behind solid piece of furniture for protection at this juncture :behindsofa: )

[RUSirius]

thank you, Bill, I have no idea why I'm here, just my own thoughts as to why, nothing concrete. Thanks again.
Jeff

[Ivy]

Bill,Thanks for sharing.Exploring those past lives is VERY beneficial,at first scary but clears so much, allowing you to progress and serve...here's to graduation...!!!!!!

[Sierra]

The 'ET - Human Mission' concerns several hundreds of individuals directly and thousands and millions of others ..not to speak of its impact on history of human race as we know it.

One of the interesting point is timing of events ...

But what I see and observe is that activities of the 'Program' extend over a span of time ..can be a decade or several years on each occasion , during which period practical experiments are conduced, samples are taken from several human ethnics and progressed of human race is closely checked and monitored .

Which does not necessarily include or mean making 'disclosure announcements' or 'open sightings' . Because this all story , as you have wisely noted on many occasions is about human responsibility for their own kind .

It's a synchronicity of events perhaps ..

all living beings are sparkle of Divine Intelligence
wishing peaceful and happy life .
Who are then those who fight and destroy
each others lives, using brute force
to protect their petty little interests ?

They are ill , mind wise .

Mankinds future is in their own hands,
they have to change to survive .
No calendar year or astrological constellation
signifies major break through ,
if you understand the logic of it
they are all man made.
The same way
religions are man made .
And reflect intelligence , dreams, troubles,
vocabulary and grammar of people of it's time .

But between us , I can only share ..
that what is happening around this time( century )
is important for future.


I learn about life on Earth while I am here and of course, it pains me a lot ..to learn how painful it is to live here.

The very next thing that strikes similarity with my experience at the moment ..is the reaction Bill describes he's experienced from others after this 'abduction' and trying to relate to them what has happened .

And that somehow, it all did not fit in, the time and people were not ready and the individual ended his life somehow and took next incarnation to proceed with his true mission and it took many years again to re-learn speaking to people and accomplish his path ..

Not only i can emphatize but in fact, I feel i'm going through similar process ..

And if i've already took the pain of going here , there has to be huge solid reason behind it all.

And then I think ..the inner call says .. ET go home ..

And that's about. Events and truths , no matter how truthful they are , are valid for those with adequate capability of reasoning and in-depth experience which needs so also can accept ..adequate answers ..

Peace & Blessings

:angel:

I've snipped all I can bear to snip. :)

It is lovely to hear from you Agape.

I keep vibrating back and forth reading your post.

On the one hand, the pain of human existence for you. I am sorry it hurts to be here Agape. It is appalling to watch how we treat each other, Gaia, and her creatures. This is a tough planet. I am grateful you are here though. When you speak, what you say makes it self-evident to me, where my social conditioning is in effect. Please realize, I hear you and I think many people hear you. Thank you Agape.

On the other, synchronicity and timelines. I had a dream in my 20s, hanging in space, looking at the stars, my back to planet Earth (a mercy so I did not have to witness, what others have already described in their posts above), hearing a radio voice, announcing city after city and the count of their dead. I think the dream timeline is gone. The list of cities destroyed, would not make sense in today's scenario.

I think many ache to be done with this lifetime, pouring into a planet deep in darkness, and want to go home. Bootstrapping is hard work. IMO, it is working. The divide between the PTB and the rest of humanity grows clearer and clearer. We have words now to describe the consistent behavior (psychopathy) of the rulers, we now understand how they condition themselves to be who they are (very ill in the mind). We see the Monarch/MKUltra evil. We see the enormous span of time the plans have been in place by the PTB. We see this century is our opportunity to abort these plans. This information was unknown just a few short decades ago (Yeah internet!).

And ... right now it feels like when you are doing something awful that you must do, you are so close to the end, soon it will be over, and time s_t__r___e____t_____c______h_______e________s.


The heart leaps and falls. In joy and terror vibrating I feel the strings merging and becoming one and where will we be on the scale, what note will we be singing?

And then kaboing, snap the whip, leap the bungee, whether through death or enlightenment, uplift or destruction or a myriad of scenarios moving on up through the possible energetic scale to heaven_on_earth (as close as we can get through the lessons currently being wrought, sigh) ... we shall see how we did.

As Bill once said, the BIG secret the PTB are terrified we'll find out is that we have abilities, and if we do our shadow work, and activate those abilities, the PTB do not stand a chance in hell of hanging on to their goodies (make that our goodies). And even if we do fail this time around, shadow work accomplished, is shadow work accomplished and contributes to the good of all--not to mention your next incarnation.

Oh incarnating is so much fun ... :eyebrows:

Love, Sierra

P.S. One of the few flashes of past lifetimes I've ever had is when I hugged Bill after the Bill-Inelia Sacto seminar. One of the other mods said if it happened when you hugged, it is probably true, so I'll put it here. Just a brief flash, standing on a small hill with Bill and others, covered in gore, exhausted, weighing a ton, looking down at a battlefield in a bowl like meadow, sunset approaching, watching the coup de grace on the dying, stripping of equipment, looting of bodies--glad to be alive.

[another bob]

P.S. One of the few flashes of past lifetimes I've ever had is when I hugged Bill after the Bill-Inelia Sacto seminar. One of the other mods said if it happened when you hugged, it is probably true, so I'll put it here. Just a brief flash, standing on a small hill with Bill and others, covered in gore, exhausted, weighing a ton, looking down at a battlefield in a bowl like meadow, sunset approaching, watching the coup de grace on the dying, stripping of equipment, looting of bodies--glad to be alive.


The war is over --
nobody survived.

No time to mourn the dead,
sunrise over the settling dust
was too captivating for any lament.

Crimson trails of mind's lingering exhaust
scar-streaked dawn's early sky, as if
the dream of night itself exploded,
as if from now on there would be
flooding daylight only, though
even that wild wonder will
fall in time from the eyes,
till what remains is
not of time, not of mind,
yet even in its flash of vanishing --
true balm for wounded hearts.

We wake and rise and fall breathless
into this luminosity, this sky meadow
vibrant with vernal signs, hues,
and vivid budding wonders --
the ordinary evidence of everything
changing, even as we ourselves are
changed beyond our cherished dreams.

Something unspeakable, unimaginable,
falls deeper into the serene still presence
of itself, no longer fixed in desperate conflict
with itself, just drifting lazily, aimlessly,
softly over a killing floor where
nobody survives, nobody lingers
to tell brave tales of some
imagined victory.

Yes, fight on Arjuna!
Do your best!

We'll be down in Krishna's Kitchen,
cooking everybody lunch.

Today's ala carte menu will be hand-lettered
in a spicy calligraphy of love's rocket-red glare,
with combustible garnish: heads flaming in air.

Each crispy ash-head will eventually
reincarnate as a kind of moon, orbiting
its own promised world, drifting in a space
we all once hoped would be the case
when peace ruled every planet,
and love outshone the stars.



"Except for deserted wilderness what is there to protect?"

~Joshu


:yo:

[Agape]

Wait a minute agape!


There won't be any big leaps forwards
TILL all are ready . Or at least more ready
than they are now


What about the 3% 10% or 15% "critical threshold" or "Tipping Point" to unity consciousness that the love and light crowd have promised me?

It's alright ..i don't mind , personally if it's 50% , critical threshold that's correct but not unless you can promise , i mean vow to take care for the remaining 50 .

Look at the big picture ... one thing is and will always remain, working with individuals ..

Ultimately that's the way how to help society, help individuals . If you can't take care of individuals the whole of society is in bad shape .

I don't believe in crowd gatherings, teachings and revelations ..evolution , wisdom, problems and solutions , is something that happens on individual level .
Each human being, lets say you call yourself that way, i'd say each being, contains immense potential of abilities that are seldom given the space and support to open and flourish .

What would you make of each of these kids if they were granted individual care and attention, and LOVE , fitting their needs , discovering their uniqueness ..

rather than making them uniform part of one or another horrid automatic system for cheap labor ?

See what i mean ?


You are That . In spiritual sense ..and for all other purposes too ..


One of the sights that shocked me recently, let me find that page ...



http://news.yahoo.com/photos/tiny-living-spaces-1327789426-slideshow/


Before someone destroys the evidence ..i've seen couple of such territories in my life . But it's worse than i thought .. it's just horrid.

And it's authentic , you have people living in cages . Can you get them out somehow ?

How can they embrace any sort of human dignity ?


I have cried a lot but seeing this , you know, makes you feel shattered .. and i mean, please don't get back to me ( not anyone in particular i mean ) with that pseudo-christian-hindu-whatever blend of faith that those people deserve it ..

no one deserves to be left dying like a dog, in cage, without medical care, love, food, whatever, you know, no intelligent being in whole Universe deserves this.

It's only here that some of your 'missionaries' , they know who they are, teach it's all your karma ..

what a Faith really, leaving millions of innocent souls in trouble and creating another millions of new babies you can't care for neither they can,

and super-imposing kind of ritualistic belief in reincarnation on those billions ..



I know it's not you or I . It's 'them' .


I stop here at heart beat,


with apologies



Love and Peace


:angel:

[Selene]

Agape ~

You do more good than you know.

All my fondest respects and pranams, beloved sister.

Cheers,

Selene

[tonius]

I have cried a lot but seeing this , you know, makes you feel shattered .. and i mean, please don't get back to me ( not anyone in particular i mean ) with that pseudo-christian-hindu-whatever blend of faith that those people deserve it ..

no one deserves to be left dying like a dog, in cage, without medical care, love, food, whatever, you know, no intelligent being in whole Universe deserves this.

Agape , its like you took the words out of my mouth.We seem so busy looking up we are forgetting what is down here.We think going 'up' ,in other dimensions has anything to do with connecting to the source.

Lets suppose for a momment the 'Source of all' of all this is taking notes :

Earth,Mondey 31 Jannuary 2012,

Beings in this reality seems to be in real mess,not only are they in all this mess but some of them,the so called awaken one,instead of looking at what they have in front of their eyes ,in this moment are all busy guessing when the next shift will come,or when the next alien will pop up in the sky.
Wait a minute ,what shift,i didnt send any shift,must be that f..ing orions and their secret services.Humans, never learn,all again the same story.

Rules were simple,you pop up in a certain realm,where you are given some obstacles,and from there you (wich in fact is me..hahhahha ,what a laugh :p ) come 'back home' , remember who you are.
But than someone had the interesting idea,maybe the so called 'Evolved Beings' ,out of boredom, to make a game out of it .The game is called 'The Vibrator' ,the more you vibrate, the more levels you climb, the more points you get. Points than can be converted in photons (the universal corrispondent of the dollar) , the more you have the more you shine ,thats where 'Being of Light' comes from.

Than from all this game industry new jobs arise : We have the guardians of realms , a kind of universal Border Patrol whose job is to keep things separated, we have the orions and company ,a kind of universal mafia whose job is to 'break legs', terrorise or 'abduct' other beings, and in this case they dont ask your parents for money,they just drain your soul energy ,they love everything that is illegal.

We than have the Royalty ,6th density and higher. They just stay up there ,just... being... and trying to come 'home' as gently as possible withought pushing anyone because than they might be penalised and go back down with the 'common mortals'. Forgot to say, they have superpowers,kinda powerrangers,only that they insted of helping with gung fu they send letters,..with promisses..wich never seem to keep. Oh, we are coming, its just there is some traffic,and Orions have blocked the street, but we cant just vaporise them we have to Love them enogh until they drop dead.Changes are coming !,a new era is beggining....sure....but just hurry, many are getting a cold here Waiting for you outside all night.

You always asume the way to me (Source) is through there,outside,being it dimenssions or realms,forgetting the only way is from inside,

Humans, they always assume ,in fact they live in Assumptions, we can call earth the 'ASSUME LAND' ,everything real touchable is poison for our souls, a child starving : dont worry its just an illusion. In fact this all is an illusion but, US NOT ACTING on it is more real than everything. remember everything is an illusion,time doesnt exist ,so if you ignore that single event in front of you for the sake of some virtual rule (KARMA) or because you are to busy packing your luggage, for the trip to the next dimension yoy are BETRAYING YOURSELF.You become just a Random Player.

You see people starving but we cant interfere for the sake of love ,they have to deal with their karma, we love them so much we let them die.You have other things to think about,the shift is coming ,many will stay behind , youe have to Vibrate more or we are doomed to stay here.Of course only bodies die,of course they are an illusion ,but the souls in them are as real as you and me and as long as you help even one of them you are allready on the way home.

The above ,as you guessed is an allegory,mixed with a little humor,as i find it to be sometimes esier to give better understanding,I didnt write it just for you to read but also for me to see better where i am with my understanding.

Bill i owe you very much,It was your work with Kerry at Project Camelot introudeced me to all this knowledge. You are a wonderful person.I am grateful you shared your experience here specially your childhood chalanges.My opinion differs a little when Et-s come to place. I think we should ask more questions about it.

I know your experiences are far profund in the matter but lets not forget that Beings who can deal with genetics in such way,who can be invisible ,hidden and yet feed on us,manipulate us in such an incredible way can fool everyone of us,even the most Knowable and skeptic one. They know very well the dinamics of our mind,and i suppose that even when our deep intuition comes to help they have had time to prapare distortion plans ,elaborate tactics.We seem to mistaken sometimes the impression of a strong expirience with the truth of it. As for benevolent being what alawys pops in my mind is the fact that such beings understand very well how important is not to interfere,that anyone soon or later will come to the point so why would be so important to them to 'save' us,cant it be thats their massages(supposly theirs) are an invetion the same way religions needed 'hell' to justify their presence. Of course these are my opinions, i just think we should always ask questions.

What fuels all this for trips to other realms (Forgetting the one we have here) i guess is curiosty mixed with the wrong assumption that reaching the True Self has anything to do with dimensions,Vibrating more or following the advices of ET.

My question is,what can we do now ,here,on earth,not what will it be like 'There' ?

Isnt maybe that we are the ones who are 'ASLEEP' ,because we KNOW we are being manipulated and still persist playing by the rules of the ones who manipulate us.
Of course there are ET-s,we all are ET-s ,of course we are being manipuleted,of course there are other dimensions, but why dont we Create our way insted of following instructions from 'ABOVE'

I am one of those,like many here, who have passed hours searching and searching for answers,and i was so blinded and thrilled by these shifts,theories ,channelings that i got too far. I know they say many true things about how things work in this illusion,my fear is we are just copying and pasting instead of writing,we are using the rules of the illusion to get out out of the illusion.What if we just stood.What would heappen if we just dealt with what is now,exchange ideas on how We humans can concentrate in our infinite nature,spread the realisation we had to others withought mistaking it with cool journeys to other dimensions.I have that felling that even if we are manipuletad,our bodies used for genetic experiments, or told that the only way home is through 'UP' we can get home even from here. It may be that its only the way they say,but we are Creators so we not give it try,
We now know, rememberd we are infinite,why not begin from there.

[Jonathon]

Great post Bill - thanks so much for sharing this experience. Also thanks to all others for making this an excellent thread to read - lots of wonderful posts here. Thanks all!!!

[Limor Wolf]

What a brilliant post tonius,you have certainly created an original thought here and did not 'copy paste'.I agree with many of your points.
Thank you

[Alie]

I have cried a lot but seeing this , you know, makes you feel shattered .. and i mean, please don't get back to me ( not anyone in particular i mean ) with that pseudo-christian-hindu-whatever blend of faith that those people deserve it ..

no one deserves to be left dying like a dog, in cage, without medical care, love, food, whatever, you know, no intelligent being in whole Universe deserves this.

Agape , its like you took the words out of my mouth.We seem so busy looking up we are forgetting what is down here.We think going 'up' ,in other dimensions has anything to do with connecting to the source.

Lets suppose for a momment the 'Source of all' of all this is taking notes :

Earth,Mondey 31 Jannuary 2012,

Beings in this reality seems to be in real mess,not only are they in all this mess but some of them,the so called awaken one,instead of looking at what they have in front of their eyes ,in this moment are all busy guessing when the next shift will come,or when the next alien will pop up in the sky.
Wait a minute ,what shift,i didnt send any shift,must be that f..ing orions and their secret services.Humans, never learn,all again the same story.

......

My question is,what can we do now ,here,on earth,not what will it be like 'There' ?

....................

I certainly find it uncanny how so many of us are asking this same question. I work with the public and have for over a decade. It is EXTREMELY painful for me to be treated with such disregard (and often disrespect.) Recently, I came to this conclusion ...

I am to GIVE people KINDNESS & RESPECT simply because they are human, and everyone I meet is getting this, regardless of who they are, or how they act to me. I am doing the only thing that matters in my day to day dealings.

[jcocks]

After some of the heavy material in some of the threads on this board, it is truly wonderful to find a "gem" of a thread such as this (you guys should also check out the astral jorneys thread, it's another such gem that has popped up within the last few days)...

Agape, your words touch me. Yes it is so very painful to be living here at this time. I think it's becoming more painful the more we evolve, as we realise it doesn't need to be this way - it's totally unneccessary and senseless. I have found myself feeling more down than ever before in the last few months. Why does life need to be so hard for so many on this beautiful orb of ours? It doesn't.

But you know what? I can't help but see some of the victim mentality coming out when we think like that. Oh it's so hard, it's so horrible. But where does that get us? What good can we do for others when we feel so down? I would go out on a limb and say not much. What we must do in times like this is allow us to grieve, to feel for those worse off than us...but then take a deep breath, stick it deep in our hearts... And with that in our hearts, go out there and touch the lives of those whose lives are worse than ours, touch the hearts of those who are feeling down. A little kindness can go a very long way. Maybe slip a ten dollar note to the homeless man sleeping on the park bench down the road with a warm smile. It matters not what he then does with that money - It's the intent that counts.

We are so very close to truly wonderous times on this orb where beauty will be indescribable and where there will be equality for all. I can feel it in the deepest part of my soul, I *KNOW* it to be true.
It doesn't matter if you don't believe me, just wait and see. Remember this when you feel sad for the people on this planet. The more people who believe that wonderous times are just around the corner, who walk around with the intent to see them manifest in our hearts and spread love and light to those around us, the faster it come. Remember - the universe responds to intent!

pV6jGsUuh4s

[Agape]

I certainly find it uncanny how so many of us are asking this same question. I work with the public and have for over a decade. It is EXTREMELY painful for me to be treated with such disregard (and often disrespect.) Recently, I came to this conclusion ...

I am to GIVE people KINDNESS & RESPECT simply because they are human, and everyone I meet is getting this, regardless of who they are, or how they act to me. I am doing the only thing that matters in my day to day dealings.


THANK YOU. That's about it . It should be the norm but it isn't ..

somehow, I've witnessed lots of the opposite stand not only in our oldest generation whose basic socializing pattern could be defined as anything from '' treat strangers with cautions '' ..checks their colors .. to ''wait for what they have to offer '' to '' put them through as many tests of endurance as they can /not pass''

where 'strangers' may also include their children, kins, close friends who did not arrive at the right time etc etc

but I've seen very young and gifted people all around do the same to each other .


It's exactly as you say and I'd add, since being human means experiencing lots of pain from early stages of life to its transcendental end ..
treat yourself and others , with RESPECT, KINDNESS AND COMPASSION .

There is no doubt that all of these qualities are badly needed, along with honesty and preparedness to act , which can be found under the term 'troubleshooting' in our modern vocabulary ,
rather than complaining endlessly about what we can't do .




:washing:

[gripreaper]

Bill, Can I ask how you manage to have clear recall of past lives, is it through meditation or with the help of others??


Scientology processing. Not regression or hypnosis. A very sharp, clean and and clear ‘knife’ that (in ethical and well-trained hands) cuts through absolutely anything.

Could you say more and possibly link us to how we might take advantage of such a catharsis. The reason I am asking, is because I have 6 years of Primal Therapy, which linked me to childhood traumas and helped ground me and give me a sense of boundary, and I have six years of energy work, which has taught me to listen to the sensations from my chakras and to understand where the blockages are and so forth,and how energy works, but NO ONE has been able to help me with a brick wall I have come up against.

When I get close to it, it has the imprint of all of my cells as well as all of my emotions, with a rather extreme intensity. I cannot function when I go towards it. So, I keep my life force at a level which allows me to maintain homeostasis while vacillating between inner and outer attachments. I have also experienced many lifetime recalls and cleared a bunch of karmic stuff and cleared much out of my chakras. All I know for sure is that this blockage is really huge and I'm not able to access it and clear it on my own.

[Debra]

Thanks Bill Ryan. For sharing your journey into previous lives, as well as affirming the groundswell towards the creation of a more promising future for all sentient beings. I have been obsessed in recent months - literally woke up one morning last year - and decided it was time to search into my own past lives and began ordering books to explore where I should begin. However, a much more fascinating area opened up for me, the studies that investigate evidence of lives between lives. Like to know also how you personally travelled into your past lives, but I am sure there are answers within this thread. I look forward to reading the comments of others here.

[Debra]

That rejection energy is not the same as resistance, which ends up defeating itself, since it only fuels what is being resisted.

Rejection is the opposite of Acceptance.

What I would really like to see is more people waking up to is the fact that, by buying into the likelihood of possible negative future scenarios, they are actually ACCEPTING them.

Albeit in a passive way.

It's actually a step further than apathetically doing NOTHING; it's, in a very real way, a vote FOR the negative scenario.

The passiveness is deceptive--it's actually a kind of passive-aggression, ie aggression MASKED as passivity.

That dynamic needs to be examined much more closely, because it is most often done without awareness of the unfortunate consequences.

Absolutely Onawah! We need to stay conscious of how how we are thinking during this bombardment of information. Coming from Hollywood - you bet - but also from within the ranks of profile people on the alternative media scene, putting forward some pretty hard core evaluations of the future.

Switching from Duncan O´finioan to David Wilcock - for example - can be a hell of a ride.

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

No disclaimer?

My thoughts exactly. Has anyone read this before?

Project Avalon and Bill Ryan do not endorse the information presented in this section
and accepts no responsibility for psychological, spiritual or metaphysical effects
either negative or positive to individuals who read these threads.
User discretion is advised.
We ask that following any post of these messages that a link to the source
be provided so that readers may follow up on the authenticity of the message and/or messenger

A recollection of an abduction in a past life certainly falls into the same general category of information. The most unverifiable of unverifiable information, subject to overlay by the conduit.

I'm not saying that I have a problem with the message itself, I certainly want to believe that we have avoided catastrophe. It does take courage to post such an experience, and Bill is undoubtedly sincere.

Still, I am left scratching my head on this one.

(Lazlo dives behind solid piece of furniture for protection at this juncture :behindsofa: )

Thank You Lazlo.

It just struck me as a little strange that the mods/admins didn't actually pick this up.

My point of view has no bearing on what I think of the actual post content, but if this community is to maintain its reputation, everything must be equal, and this would require a disclaimer, at least in my view.

PVM

[aranuk]

Bill does it not warm your heart to see all these thanks after your post? The troops are behind you. We all appreciate your input here.

Stan

[Armen]

Again I feel that familiar zing that tells me I should chime in here. I haven't read all the posts, but have picked up on some themes. What gets me going here is the theme of voice, and the suppression of voices that have something important to say. This certainly rang true for me in reading Bill's testimony, and the emotional surge that comes with having one's voice stuffed back inside one's throat is clear and obvious to me.

For anyone who knows what it feels like to be in a position of service, and to be ridiculed and dismissed while dutifully soldiering on, it is impossible not to feel sympathetic and compelled to change the condition of those suffering under such conditions. From what I could see, many people feel this way. I know I do. I know that my contemporaries and peers feel this way too.

It has taken me a long time to decide to join this forum. Although I could relate to the community, I didn't think I had anything to contribute here because I'm not an insider blowing the whistle on some deep dark secret. The point at which I got interested, was when the conversation started moving away from what's going on within the power structures, and more towards what's going on with everyday people who are awake, aware, and active. Call them activists, catalyzers, awakeners, whatever. They are people who never functioned within the system. They are people who have been pushed to the outskirts of society in order to survive. They are everywhere, whether they hide out in plain sight, or choose to live out their exile in remote locations where they won't be harassed. Regardless of their situation, they seem irrevocably driven to make a difference, wherever they can. They doggedly push on, taking abuse, enduring ridicule, poverty, and destitute. They come in all genders, all ethnicities, and all ages. They are in every conceivable sector of human life. Some dormant, some extremely active. Many don't know that they are not alone, and once they find out they have peers, it makes a huge difference for them.

So here is my heart's question to Avalon the forum, to the moderators, and especially to Bill Ryan. I say especially Bill Ryan, because you, Bill, have managed to create a public persona. What I'm trying to get at, is that when you draw attention to something, a lot of people notice. This gives your word a lot of weight.

So here's my question. Isn't it time that we, along with all the whistleblowers, start to focus our attention on the actual, everyday ground crew members, the war horses, the awakeners the catalyzers, who are working diligently in their communities to make a difference? Isn't it time that we draw attention on this issue? That there are countless people who don't have an opportunity to speak the very important message they have to deliver?

I believe that we have to tackle the matter of recognizing and supporting the social catalysts of the world. Yes, we need powerful people to do important things in secret places, but we also need the everyday warrior too, working to keep people from walking into the dire, desolate, dark social wasteland that's all around us.

There is so much despair all around me. All the suffering that I see could easily be eased. Easily. All it takes is reconnecting people with a sense of family and community, and they begin to rehabilitate their own, natural radiance and strength. There are people who are innately skilled and generating empathy, connection, and trust among people. Many of you are probably such people. Many of you are probably educators, awakeners, and catalyzers.

Not all who are worthy are known. I think it's time to link more pieces of the chain. I think it's time to also focus attention on people who are acting in their communities to catalyze change. I think it's time to end the assumption that people who do good should be beaten on. I think it's time that we collectively learn to advocate for the value of those who work before the majority. That we advocate for the value and importance of our catalyzers. That we, respectfully, demand to be valued and respected by society for the good we do.

I interface with a lot of people who think I am strange and incomprehensible. Yet, they are compelled towards me for reasons they can't explain or always trust. From my perspective it's really simple. I give them something they can't find elsewhere. A sense of being cared for and understood. An ability to live outside of the "programmed" jurisdiction of what's necessary for survival. Yet, it is incredibly difficult for people to consciously articulate or appreciate the value of my influence in their lives. This leaves me invisible socially.

Is it such a difficult concept to grasp that we must reward actions that strengthen the integrity of society? You'd be surprised how difficult it can be to get this idea across. My point is that I believe this is a knot we must undo. We must start drawing attention to those individuals who do good work, and work on changing how people view and value "good doers".

We should not let people go through life unheard.

I could ramble on, but I think I've somehow mumbled out what I wanted to share.

Thanks for hearing me...

[sunnyrap]

The thing is, my friend, when you are doing the work you describe, it is its own thanks and reward built right in. IMHO, it's what people of service actually live on. Jesus talked of this at great length, but it takes actually embracing it, doing it, to really understand it.

[Sharma]

Hi Bill, This is an amazingly synchronistic message for, as it's 5.20 am and i've just been listening to Benjamin Fulford and David Willcocks on You Tube, discussing how the planned ' in house job ' of a flase flag alien invasion leading to massive nuclear strikes that'd kill 90 % of the earths' population HAS BEEN STOPPED !! - have a look at ' UNDERGROUND BASES NUKED !!! David Willcock September 2011.mp4 ' - absolutely amazing stuff.
To summarise, the rest of the world has turned its back on the G5, been refusing to accept dollars, and there is now massive opposition to the NWO at the highest possible levels, which has led to ' the goodies ' nuking the NWOs underground bases, so their plan to go hide and let the rest of us burn IS FINISHED - this is the game changer of all game changers !! WE'VE WON !!!!!
:high5::cheer2: I really feel the truth here, - i know that i spent most of last year feeling beyond awful and then suddenly started feeling happy again around the autumn equinox, just about the time the tables turned in our favour, so this really resonates with me.
Really hope this post comes thru OK, for the last few couple of months my PC crashes whenever i try to, i'll never get to be a full avalon member at that rate eh !! - the NWO are still up to their tricks but it's just death throws now, either they come out with their hands up and surrender and go to jail for a very long time for their crimes against humanity, or just perish, it's over one way or another. phew.
another quick bit of info, did you know that if you type illuminati backwards and add .com ( www.itanimulli.com ) that you go straight to the NSA website !!!! i've just tried it and it worked !!
One Love Always, Sharma xxx

[Satkirn]

Hey Bill and everyone else thanx for sharing your experiences, I think its great that people in PA are telling their experiences too on the topic.

I have a question Bill, Do you happen to remember you name in your past life (the one you were abducted in) Im just a curious cat, I mean have you looked yourself up? LoL

Ok wait Im also curious...Bill do you have any memory of ever rencarnating as a woman? :confused:


much Love:dance:

[Hervé]

For those of you looking into how to retrieve memories without the use of hypnosis, I think Bill mentioned somewhere the original Dianetics procedure.

Other than that, the only other one I know of is the one used by Truman Cash which allowed him to uncover the material presented in his books "The Programming of a Planet" and "Eye of Ra."

Found as .zip files here:
http://lunahelia.com/docs/cash.zip The Programming of a Planet
http://lunahelia.com/docs/cash2.zip Eye of Ra

Since Truman cash ended up re-appearing very recently on Icke's forum and willing to share how to go about it:

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060563922&postcount=150



Quote:
Originally Posted by trueseeker http://forum.davidicke.com/images/buttons_green/viewpost.gif (http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=1060560035#post1060560035)
Welcome back Truman.

I have a rather important question for you personally now i know a considerable amount of people have read both your books and probably your postings here and elsewhere.

I couldn't find many post about your "memory retrieval techniques" and if they work for those who used them (except from you, your loved ones, friends)
I hardly could find feedback for this IMPORTANT technique. So what is your feedback concerning these techniques of what you have received from people?

If so as you have stated that you could remember who you are before you where trapped in this prison for your mind and soul matrix. Can you tell us more of that state you where could all people who use that technique access their lives BEFORE they got tricked/trapped here?


Thanks

Hello Trueseeker. Thanks for your inquiry. Others have also inquired but I have been busy in other areas and have not focused on the ET material since last winter.

As soon as I can I will post some information on the techniques I used to recover both past lives and ET abductions. I had a computer crash and lost some material so I will put it together as soon as I can.

... to be followed.

[Billy]

I certainly find it uncanny how so many of us are asking this same question. I work with the public and have for over a decade. It is EXTREMELY painful for me to be treated with such disregard (and often disrespect.) Recently, I came to this conclusion ...

I am to GIVE people KINDNESS & RESPECT simply because they are human, and everyone I meet is getting this, regardless of who they are, or how they act to me. I am doing the only thing that matters in my day to day dealings.


THANK YOU. That's about it . It should be the norm but it isn't ..

somehow, I've witnessed lots of the opposite stand not only in our oldest generation whose basic socializing pattern could be defined as anything from '' treat strangers with cautions '' ..checks their colors .. to ''wait for what they have to offer '' to '' put them through as many tests of endurance as they can /not pass''

where 'strangers' may also include their children, kins, close friends who did not arrive at the right time etc etc

but I've seen very young and gifted people all around do the same to each other .


It's exactly as you say and I'd add, since being human means experiencing lots of pain from early stages of life to its transcendental end ..
treat yourself and others , with RESPECT, KINDNESS AND COMPASSION .

There is no doubt that all of these qualities are badly needed, along with honesty and preparedness to act , which can be found under the term 'troubleshooting' in our modern vocabulary ,
rather than complaining endlessly about what we can't do .




:washing:

Yes the word love can also be used for control over others, But acts of kindness to me is more important. We can resist love but who can resist acts of Kindness. Better done quietly maybe even in secret, Then the "how good am i" Ego is limited. I am convniced that it is Kindness and respect towards all brothers and sisters that assists in raising the vibrational frequency, hence assists in changing the timeline of fear and transforming it into a timeline of caring love for each other.

Peace

Hence my signature below

[bridgetlilstar]

Hi everyone!

Billyji, what you're saying resonates with me.. real love comes from a "not demanding" heart:) when we give or do something with an Ego expecting to be praised, our actions don't have the same impact as when we do things out of pure kindness and love. Consciously or not , some people are just giving to get something, they want something "back". But there are also many many people on this planet who are inspiring and are extraordinary "examples" of unconditional love. So I agree with you: if we keep an open mind (no judgments etc), and open heart and focus on positiveness, there's a good chance we might head towards Love;)

Light&love to all

Bridget

“Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.”
Rumi

[rgray222]

Hi Bill
The message from Marshall Summers seems to go hand in hand with what you have to say.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW1J6H9njtk&lr=1

[jaybee]

I interface with a lot of people who think I am strange and incomprehensible. Yet, they are compelled towards me for reasons they can't explain or always trust. From my perspective it's really simple. I give them something they can't find elsewhere. A sense of being cared for and understood. An ability to live outside of the "programmed" jurisdiction of what's necessary for survival. Yet, it is incredibly difficult for people to consciously articulate or appreciate the value of my influence in their lives. This leaves me invisible socially.
...

Nice post Armen...I especially liked this paragraph

cheers


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[Carmody]

Hi Bill,

Isn't it interesting on how..if one does not spend time processing the given life and just hops into another... that it is like the continuation of a sentence cut midpoint. For me, I left the last world, as a slave, bent over, working in the fields...having my limbs and body fail. Beaten all the time. Left in a back room, on a cold cement like floor (low cot) (also spent time on cold floors)..unable to move, too broken from the work and beatings.


Straight into this life..and thus.... the similarities of the exit...to the entrance are - quite interesting. One aspect is that according to my parents, I never bothered to walk for the first 2.5+ years of my life.

[Armen]

The thing is, my friend, when you are doing the work you describe, it is its own thanks and reward built right in. IMHO, it's what people of service actually live on. Jesus talked of this at great length, but it takes actually embracing it, doing it, to really understand it.

My response is complex and well thought out (I think), so that's why it is so long. I believe it is a valid and important argument, worth reading.

sunnyrap,

what you have posted in response to my post really sums up nicely the mentality I am confronted with on a massive scale that prevents the kind of progress that's truly possible from being made. This is a huge issue with many complex peaces, but this is precisely what I am seeking to address. I want to make it clear that I am not looking to attack you, but rather explain why I see that the view you expressed is catastrophic for true progress. I believe that people have the right to their own opinions, however this issue is an important one, and I believe that a readjustment in view would open up a lot more doors for positive change.

So here I go....

Let me start my premise by the assumption that we live in a society that is built on a psychopathic template. That means that an individual's ability to succeed depends on their ability to disassociate themselves from their feelings toward others, the result of which is a perfect breeding ground for parasites. This kind of society is counter to how we are organically designed, because most of us are actually built to be empathetic, and to feel connected to our surroundings. Most of us recognize that psychopathic behavior doesn't work out very well. From my personal perspective it's just flat out satanic. But mathematically speaking, games that seek to extract one winner over everyone else really don't serve the interests of the majority. We have been duped into disconnecting ourselves from each other, and nature, and then playing out vicious games in which we have to be pitted against each other in order to survive.

So, to speed this up, psychopathy equals weak societies that make themselves totally vulnerable to tyranny. The only way to prevent tyranny, is to have a society with strong moral integrity, and a high degree of love. This is life affirming. Now, people use the term love all the time as a solution, but what do I actually mean? I define love in this context as having the proper software installed in an individual's social operating system to be able to feel connected to other life forms around them, and through this experiential contact, capable of making choices that take the highest good and integrity of all involved into consideration. When your experience is my experience, you won't be able to exploit me; that kind of thing.

It is through the superhighways of our emotional connections that we regulate our social behaviors to keep the stability and well being of our societal body intact. To speed it up, love and morality are the only antidote to tyranny.

Now, love is not just a concept. It's not like I say to someone, "love", and they automatically are more loving. Love is a skill. It is, in a sense, a program that needs to be uploaded. The operating system that tries to install such a program has to develop the capacity to hold the kind of memory it takes to run such a program. Love has to be learned and practiced in order to become more functional. Just like you can turn a person into a psychopath by programming them, you can turn them into a highly functioning loving individual through programming. The programming looks different though. To make a psychopath you have to apply torture. You have to push the personality to the brink of disassociation. You have to delete their capacity to feel. To make a loving individual, you have to stimulate and enhance their ability to empathize and feel by relating to them in a way that shows them that their feelings and experiences have value, that they are safe, and quite enjoyable. You have to give the individual the tools to be able to navigate their feelings, and instill a sense of morality and integrity in the personality. So if you get a psychopath by torturing, you get a loving individual by loving.

So, if you can accept that we live in a psychopathic world, that this can only lead to tyranny, that the only answer to preserve sovereignty is love and morality, and that love is a skill that needs to be programmed, then I am ready for the next phase of my argument. To make it accurately, I will jump on a tangent for a second.

A firefighter is someone who performs a necessary service to society. Their job is to ensure our communities don't get burned down. There is no financial profit to be gained from their actions or presence. The benefit a community derives from having fire fighters who serve, is knowing that someone is looking out for the well being of the community in this particular way, and averting dangerous situations that can lead to unnecessary tragedy and destruction.

However, these people need some kind of infrastructure to perform their work. They need tools and equipment. They need a way to sustain their families so they can focus on what they're doing. This has a material cost. By subsidizing their work, we are investing in the well being of our community. If we left them without any means of doing their work. If we forced them to come up with their own funds by doing other work, then expected them to buy their own equipment, and then also somehow support their families, how much harder would their work be?

Now, I am aware of volunteer fire crews, and that's ok if there aren't many fires. But what happens when we have a situation where there are massive, out of control fires all over the globe? Volunteers won't be enough anymore. We would need teams with high capacity and quick responsiveness to address a preventable catastrophe.

Let's pretend then, for a moment, that we refuse to acknowledge those who show genuine concern and passion for that kind of work as doing something valuable to society. Or, we acknowledge that they have value, but that their need to be supported and enabled to do their work is selfish, and that simply doing the work without any tools or equipment, and without any way of taking care of themselves, should be reward enough.

How many people does anyone think will do the job, and how effective are they going to be? Furthermore, how much are they going to naturally learn to resent their communities for abandoning them for trying to serve?

My assessment is that progress would be an atomic fraction of what it could be if they were acknowledged and enabled.

To plug this tangent back into the larger structure of my argument, showing people how to be loving and good is full time work. The reason people are so sick and depressed, besides the chemicals, is because they lack the basic social interactions that can awaken their inherent programming to do good. This programming can only be activated through emersion, as we are designed to be connected. It is in the act of being connected that our capacity for connection develops.

If you accept my premise, then we can assume that those who are doing good in their communities are, in essence, putting out a huge, out of control, fire that will otherwise destroy human sovereignty. By denying people like that the means to provide for themselves, or even the means to say that they are serving society, we are crippling them and our own awakening. It is time that we evolve past this foolish notion that to serve means to suffer, or not to be worthy of abundance.

To put it another way, I would be alright with your sentiment if I could go to the grocery store and take what I wanted, knowing that for the grocer, serving me food is reward enough. And I could take any class I wanted knowing that for schools knowing that I'm learning is reward enough. And I could get someone to build my website knowing that helping me is reward enough. I could go to the doctor for free knowing that taking care of me is reward enough. I could go to a lawyer and get legal advice knowing that helping me is reward enough. If it was that way, I wouldn't be making my argument.

In order to get the things I need to sustain myself, I need to give something, yet I am exempt from participating in this game because I am doing good, and doing good is somehow different from everything else we do. It doesn't make sense, unless I view it from a different lens.

Shouldn't it be that weapons dealers are the ones who would have to form non profits, and write grants, and show metrics for how they are affective, or making an impact? Shouldn't it be difficult for them to operate? But it's not. It's people who try to help who are crippled with bureaucracy and poverty. It's such people who are expected to work for nothing. If I telescope this picture out and expand it, it looks to me like we have effectively been programmed to encourage corrosive, destructive behavior by agreeing to value people who produce services that are harmful, while refusing to encourage and support people who actually are meaning to uphold the mechanisms in society that will ensure the health and well being of it.

We don't value good, and we don't allow good doers to express that they need value, save the reward of doing what they do. What a brilliant way to choke the water supply from the plant of love. And that's what we get. We reap the yield of the plants we sow and water.

I am speaking here, not as an idealist, but a mechanic. There is a fundamental flaw in the thinking that doing good does not deserve material abundance. It only serves to cripple and stifle progress, if progress is defined as doing good. There is a lot more good that could be done, if we allowed good doers to advocate for their value in society, and enabled them to be abundant. Do we need more cars? Do we need more Coke cans? Do we need more banks? Why are those things not free? Then why should good doers be forced to live on nothing?

I believe that the overall sentiment here is that humanity has to wake up and learn to be responsible. I believe that most people here want to see good done. That means that what I am arguing for is in direct support of this forum and its members, in so far that I am saying that what you do has tangible value. It is incredible to me, how far our thinking has gone in the direction of making it easy for our oppressors to maintain power.

To put it in a more emotionally charged way, it is incredible to me that the slaves would argue against their own worth.

We can only make progress in so far as we are ready to put real material support behind love. That's the bottom line for me.

I thank you for reading my argument, and hearing me out...

[christian]

Armen, I find you confuse 'support' and 'reward'. Support should be given and without proper support, we will not succeed collectively. Reward is something rather ethereal in my view and comes by itself.

[Arrowwind]

I've been preparing for Armmagedon all my life,
although not within the Christian context of the word.

Armmagedon is still here among the people of this planet
and look no further than Sudan, Congo, or an abundance of other places upon our earth
including LA and many of our US border towns to the south,
for the children of Chicago

In my more recent years I have been preparing for survival.

It was a heavy burden on my heart.
But something happened to me about a year ago or so.
I remember it clearly...
I was walking up the outside stairs to get to our studio apartment.
Suddenly in mid-step I was struck
Struck by a release of tension.
Suddenly I knew all would be well
Like a renewal of faith for living
that all these terrible predictions for the planet
would not come about on a grad scale
at least not anytime soon
not for generations

I would say that I had been calling it in
calling in a release from the burden of survival consciousness

Since then my perspective has changed from survival
to sustainability

But here will always be wars and rumors of wars
for as long as people believe that war is the answer it shall be their answer
and they will inflict it upon themselves and others

and so will there be more earth changes
for the earth is a living breathing entity
and she changes

This planet will go on
and humanity will go on

It is our attachments that make us concerned for
our survival and creates fears for the future.

Regardless of it being "alright" as Inelia and Bill say
it is not alright for many yet.
Look only to Egypt
who's people has found their voice
but not their freedom.
the countless unemployed and homeless
across the globe.

But as individuals it can be alright.
We can be alright no matter what comes
One must choose to be alright.

It is a conscious choice that
you alter your internal reality.
the great teachers say that
this is how you change the outer reality

One must turn away from the fear porn
and start building a new reality
and leave the thought forms of fear porn behind
as you dedicate your living time and energy
to creating peace and sustainability

the fear porn sucks energy
and immobilizes people
from doing what needs to be done
and it is fear porn that makes our
industrial military complex go on and on and on.

Mother earth will change as she wills.
we need only read the signs and act accordingly
Death is always an option
but death is not the end, just a door
to the next experience

If you don't come to terms with that
then you will always be partially immobilized
if in your hands, your feet, or the choices you make,
or within your throat chakra to speak your truth
or any part that knows what work needs to be done
to make this planet a place worth living on for all

[Lightdrops]

Bill, I do believe this possible, as you are extremely energetic and my reading of Dr. Michael Newton and those of his foundation that do LBL's (Lives between Lives) have found many souls with numerous past lives; but your last re-incarnation was very quick, and this is why I say that you brought much of your Higher Self energy with you. Others might like to read the stories from around the globe of people submitting themselves to this LBL regression. I am glad you are also able to do this on your own. I too, born of 1947, two months prior to Roswell, have had a kind of early recall about being very critical of the Saber Jets that were on display at an airport in Bridgeport, Conn that Dad took us to see, I thought that they were very fundamental and crude to what I had experienced?

So, yes, many of us are with you on this journey of ascension and re-claiming the world for a more just and free school house eliminating the coercion and power struggles based on senseless fears.

[Alie]

The thing is, my friend, when you are doing the work you describe, it is its own thanks and reward built right in. IMHO, it's what people of service actually live on. Jesus talked of this at great length, but it takes actually embracing it, doing it, to really understand it.

I don't think that Armen meant that Sunnrap. I think he was suggesting to let us come together to MAGNIFY (or ENABLE) the voice of those that are yet to be heard.

[Mark]

Hello there, Armen. Nice to read your well-thought out post. Most of what you state in your original comment and the long one following in response are in line with the following quote:


I interface with a lot of people who think I am strange and incomprehensible. Yet, they are compelled towards me for reasons they can't explain or always trust. From my perspective it's really simple. I give them something they can't find elsewhere. A sense of being cared for and understood. An ability to live outside of the "programmed" jurisdiction of what's necessary for survival. Yet, it is incredibly difficult for people to consciously articulate or appreciate the value of my influence in their lives. This leaves me invisible socially.

I would hazard to say that, by choosing to become a part of PA you have chosen to interact with at least a few hundred others who play the exact same role in their communities. Every single one of us can relate to this, I think. Those of us who have chosen to come here and participate in the spirit of giving, understanding and as some sense of service-to-others, at least. Of course there are those that are here for purely selfish or egotistical reasons but I believe they are in the minority. Most everybody who comments regularly seems generally to be of the orientation you describe above.

With that in mind, with so many (relatively speaking) who share your basic orientation, here, in our discussions, there is much that can be left out of the conversation that you would find necessary with other folks of a more mainstream orientation. I think a large part of the argumentation and emotional flare-ups that occur here and in forums like this are because we each consider ourselves to be equal in our uniqueness, which inculcates a sense of pride for one, pride in difference, also in the ability to understand and help others in some way that we may not fully be able to understand. We're so used to playing that role that when we interact with others who are the same, we respond as if they were not the same, as if they were like those some call sheeple, or those just awakening.

In the context of Bill's original post, and to stay on topic, I will relate my response to you to Bill's 'coming out', because that is what I perceive this to be, in a sense. This is not to say that Bill never mentioned anything like this experience to anyone or that he hasn't spoken about it previously on this board, I do not know, have not done the search. But this is the first time I've ever seen Bill speak directly upon these types of experiences as being part of his personal life journey before.

In that context, I will grant those individuals who have spoken up in this thread about the topic needing a disclaimer and being placed under "Channeling", as that is where posts of such a subjective and questionable nature may generally be found, to have a point, but, at the same time, to totally miss the point of the entire thread, imho. So to recap the points I am making and draw a conclusion:

1) we are all strange and incomprehensible to people who have not shared certain types of experiences
2) we are all touchy about it, based upon our life experience, and can become somewhat stuck in a groove
3) we are happy to be among those of a similar bent
4) this is a unique opportunity for each of us to work on our egos

As we work through our experiences, we either resonate or don't to msg's like Bill's. For those of us who have had extra or ultra-terrestrial encounters, not so hard. For those who have not, harder. Translating subjective to objective is an impossible task. Yet, we can share our subjective experiences in the context of some objective experiences, such as that represented by the quote of yours that I presented above. That is why this topic needs no disclaimer, as it lies upon the boundary of subject/object, relating the types of experiences that are common to this fringe community, yet being intimately personal and experiential in nature, which is the very stuff forums such as this are concerned with. Within that context we can explore and refine our individual belief systems in the context of a relatively safe environment and others who - if not believing in us automatically, at least are strange enough to hear us out - are used to examining the incomprehensible outside of the boundaries of mainstream society.

[sunnyrap]

True enough. Its such a big relief to be in the company of those you don't have to explain yourself to. Who see you.

[Mooashoo]

Thank you Bill for being so transparent with your experience, it's very beautiful...I do enjoy hearing your perspective as well and I look forward to more of your interviews, always from a place of such respect.

Kindest regards...


PS have you met Felicia?

[Carmody]

Hi Bill,

Isn't it interesting on how..if one does not spend time processing the given life and just hops into another... that it is like the continuation of a sentence cut midpoint. For me, I left the last world, as a slave, bent over, working in the fields...having my limbs and body fail. Beaten all the time. Left in a back room, on a cold cement like floor (low cot) (also spent time on cold floors)..unable to move, too broken from the work and beatings.


Straight into this life..and thus.... the similarities of the exit...to the entrance are - quite interesting. One aspect is that according to my parents, I never bothered to walk for the first 2.5+ years of my life.


After the slave experience of the exact same thing done each day, with beatings, cold, starvation, etc..I tend to desire to NEVER repeat myself and NEVER allow ANYONE to put me in a position where I repeat myself, or work as a wage slave. Not a freaking chance. I actually start freaking out if that happens and I feel as if I am living a nightmare of a sort and I simply have to break free.


http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation01.html


(5) For instance, if the child is born in India to a very low-class family and was a member of a higher caste in its previous life, it may feel uncomfortable in its new family. The child may ask to be served or waited on hand and foot and may refuse to wear cheap clothes. Stevenson gives us several examples of these unusual behavior patterns.

In 35% of cases he investigated, children who died an unnatural death developed phobias. For example, if they had drowned in a past life then they frequently developed a phobia about going out of their depth in water. If they had been shot, they were often afraid of guns and sometimes loud bangs in general. If they died in a road accident they would sometimes develop a phobia of traveling in cars, buses or lorries.

Another frequently observed unusual form of behavior, which Dr. Stevenson called philias, concerns children who express the wish to eat different kinds of food or to wear clothes that were different from those of their culture. If a child had developed an alcohol, tobacco or drug addiction as an adult in a previous incarnation he may express a need for these substances and develop cravings at an early age.

Many of these children with past-life memories show abilities or talents that they had in their previous lives. Often children who were members of the opposite sex in their previous life show difficulty in adjusting to the new sex. These problems relating to the 'sex change' can lead to homosexuality later on in their lives. Former girls who were reborn as boys may wish to dress as girls or prefer to play with girls rather than boys.

Until now all these human oddities have been a mystery to conventional psychiatrists - after all, the parents could not be blamed for their children's behavior in these cases. At long last research into reincarnation is shedding some light on the subject. In the past, doctors blamed such peculiarities on a lack or a surplus of certain hormones, but now they will have to do some rethinking.




Dr. Ian Stevenson

The Pioneer of Reincarnation Research


Ian Stevenson is the former head of the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Virginia, and now is Director of the Division of Perceptual Studies at the University of Virginia. He has devoted the last 40 years to the scientific documentation of past life memories of children from all over the world and has over 3000 cases in his files. Many people, including skeptics and scholars, agree that these cases offer the best evidence yet for reincarnation.

[Carmody]

The entire complexity is further entangled by certain ET races that have a vested interest in disaster and/or enslavement, not liberation – and by other races visiting us from the future who are intent on avoiding or changing timelines that from their own point of view have actually already occurred… the ultimate mindbender of all.


Some of us have the 'dreams' of closing off timelines. The strongest or most likely ones, also have or pack the greatest energy and/or have the greatest level of interference in any attempts to develop an alternative. From personal memory of squeezing out timelines, I can tell you, they pack a ferocious punch, and when they finally break away or we separate from them, their downward spiral is even faster and shorter than their original projection. Last year, a few of us members have shared the recall of closing off some quite nasty ones. Then jumping black to this 'flow' or 'run down the slide' that we, as a group... are on in this time and line.

[Bill Ryan]

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Dear All:

This one-day event tomorrow (Saturday 4 Feb) is being filmed by an Ecuadorian TV Production Company. Camelot witness George Green (http://projectcamelot.org/george_green.html) is here, and will have the star slot. :)

Before he comes on stage, I'll be breaking the ice to speak about my personal experience, reported on this thread, publicly. I confess that I do feel a little nervous.

I met and had lunch with George today for the first time since the Sept 2009 Awake and Aware Conference. He hadn't aged a day, and he's here to talk about the Mission of the Ground Crew. it was a delight to see him.

George is convinced that World War III will break out this year. I feel it's been avoided (see my opening post)... but in the meantime, it makes a lot of sense to all pull together as a community and be and do the very best we can be and do: this is what the Ground Crew theme is all about.

Whatever happens, we cannot lose by being the change we want to see in the world, and letting go of at least some of our western, egoistic, arrogant individuality to admit that we benefit in every way when we find ourselves in deep co-operation with our fellow human beings. If WW III does not happen, it may still be wise to prepare against possible catastrophic financial collapse throughout the western world, and the threat of massive scale solar CMEs later this year or in 2013.


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http://vilcaportal.net/Vilcabamba_Ground_Crew_Workshop_4_Feb_2012_EN_2.gif

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

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Dear All:

This one-day event tomorrow (Saturday 4 Feb) is being filmed by an Ecuadorian TV Production Company. Camelot witness George Green (http://projectcamelot.org/george_green.html) is here, and will have the star slot. :)

Before he comes on stage, I'll be breaking the ice to speak about my personal experience, reported on this thread, publicly. I confess that I do feel a little nervous.

I met and had lunch with George today for the first time since the Sept 2009 Awake and Aware Conference. He hadn't aged a day, and he's here to talk about the Mission of the Ground Crew. it was a delight to see him.

George is convinced that World War III will break out this year. I feel it's been avoided (see my opening post)... but in the meantime, it makes a lot of sense to all pull together as a community and be and do the very best we can be and do: this is what the Ground Crew theme is all about.

Whatever happens, we cannot lose by being the change we want to see in the world, and letting go of at least some of our western, egoistic, arrogant individuality to admit that we benefit in every way when we find ourselves in deep co-operation with our fellow human beings. If WW III does not happen, it may still be wise to prepare against possible catastrophic financial collapse throughout the western world, and the threat of massive scale solar CMEs later this year or in 2013.


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http://vilcaportal.net/Vilcabamba_Ground_Crew_Workshop_4_Feb_2012_EN_2.gif

Hey Bill,
Might there be a live stream for this event?

[Ol' Roy]

Hey Bill, Would you please fill us in about what George Green says about WWIII? This could devestate the whole Northern Hemisphere. Thanks

[Bill Ryan]

Hey Bill, Would you please fill us in about what George Green says about WWIII? This could devastate the whole Northern Hemisphere. Thanks

Very briefly -- George believes that the next 90 days are crucial.

[OnyxKnight]

I was abducted, by caring, concerned and benevolent ETs, in September 1946. This was very early for such things: a full 9 months before Roswell. I was abducted with hundreds of other selected individuals. And we were all shown -- graphically, experientially and unforgettably -- a possible future Earth.

Correction: Caring, concerned and benevolent extraterrestrials don't abduct - they invite you in. They also never deal with more than one person at any given time. Maybe hypothetically a whole group of people that know each other can be contacted, but never at the same time.

Abductions are never benevolent - and mass ones especially. Given you were shown horrific scenes of the future doesn't really help in changing the definition of what I said above.



The reasons why the benevolent ETs – themselves superhumanly intelligent and psychically gifted, and also deeply caring in a kind of ultimately parental way – have been focusing so intently on Planet Earth is simply to assist us in changing our own timeline. [I]But we ourselves have to do that: they cannot.

The ET presence is simply about that. They have been our teachers: guiding, cajoling and motivating us, in extraordinarily clever and subtle ways (including many of them incarnating as humans), to take responsibility and make free choices that will result in a new collective agreement and therefore in a new collectively experienced reality.

No, unfortunately, things with extraterrestrials are never "as simple as that". Given the array of people you have interviewed, I would have thought you knew that already.

And things are never as simple as 'Timeline 1' and 'Timeline 2'. Again, given your background in physics, I personally would have thought you knew that already.

Every single move you make, or don't make, has an effect in creating multiple timelines - and this is a constant. Every millisecond the timeline you exist in originally, and experience the 'now', is separating into multiple ones based, again, on things you do, and things you don't do.

I'm also wary of this approach to collective thinking. Somebody changing the nature of how you are, is always a suspicious thing for me.

[Cidersomerset]

Hi Bill I asked Ion several months ago on James Martinez show via a email question live during the show...
Whether Israel was going to nuke Iran in the near future, his answer was yes I did post it on here
I'll have a look and see if I can find it...

Its strange because Bob Nevritt would not read it out , Its part of a funny segment where he says
something like lets see what nice emails i can ask Ion and he sees mine and says, I not reading
that out and ion queries it, and Bob Says look what he wrote is Bla going to nuke bla in the near future
Ion imediatly registered what I actually wrote and said 'yes '..he did not say much more i'll try
and find it , just thought I'd mention it for what its worth....Steve

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Thanks Paul.....

Default Re: Declassified: Massive Israeli manipulation of US media exposed .....my post 30th nov 2011 ..8.35pm

I'm listening to ION on cashflow live as usual on a weds....The last couple of weeks they have not been answering email questions, anyway Bob relaxed it and I slipped in a direct question...

Is Israel going to nuke Iran in the near future ? Bob said I'm not going to read that out ! he said will blaa nuke blaa in the near future....

Ion said yes and would trigger off the change of atmosphere in the world to H197 which is a higher radiation level which has already been started by Fukushima and is the start of us coming back into our 'godship' which is another Story which I have

put up here several times.....

46mins 30secs...


http://www.achieveradio.com/archplayer.php?showname=Cash%20Flow%20with%20James%20Martinez&sn=66&ShowURL=http://audio.achieveradio.com/cash-flow/2011-11-30--1100---Cash_Flow.mp3

Steve

PS If you don't know what I'm on about now and again when I quote Ion, just keep it in your in tray pending more info. He fascinates me whatever he/she is and if he/she is right we are looking at reality completely differently than we think !!

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I'm adding this post to the mix as it makes reference to what i think is the main reason for Ions manifestation, i don't think they are frauds and if nothing else they are a great listen!!
If any of this ties in what you have come across would be interresting to know...Steve


Default ION and assension update.. posted 13th october 2011...10.34 pm

Hi I'll just add this to the mix, I was listening to Ion on Cash flow last night, at the beginning of the show they referenced the fact that we have just had the 2nd blood moon recently, There was one last December, from their Ion said 2012 is now ........ and in the next couple of months we are going to get the 'sackcloth sun' which he/she said will be obvious when it happens ?

Its a biblical reference......Revelation 6.12

12When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood, 13and the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale. 14 The sky vanished like a scroll that is being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. 15Then the kings of the earth and the great ones and the generals and the rich and the powerful, and everyone, slave[e] and free, hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains, 16 calling to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, 17for the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?

They said this was a ref to the Earth Quake in Japan, and the release of radiation H197 in the atmosphere. Ion has made ref. That a mass exodus event from the planet is imminent, although he is not specific as there is no time ???

http://informationfarm.blogspot.com/...radiation.html


The basic story he/she has been saying for the past two years he/she( Enviroment) has been able to communicate with us via the digital meme, There is no one God, we are all Gods and eons ago we descended from our godship for a change of contrast.
We left clues along the way in the bible and other places to help us reassend. While we were on this journey when our physical bodies died 'Meat sack bodies' our non- physical which is the greater part of us went to the 'Guf' Hebrew for heaven, and we sort of reincarnated but not in the hindu sence, more as when we are in the guf we become linked so we return to mortal form with elements of other non-physicals.

Anyway we are eternal entities experiancing a mortal contrast, time is coming for us to reassand and become immortal , Eternal beings again.Thats why the Guf is emptying and why there is so many people here, even though many die every day, the turn around in the Guf is happening quicker.........

This is all to do with isotope H197 radiation triggering chromosone 14 , the only chromozone with double helix's arms and rings.Its RNA not DNA which replicates the cells so that the meatsack body will become imortal, because now every 7 years every cell in the body is replicasted until we get to 49 then they stop, and the ageing process set in. But after this assension process our bodies will be able to replicate themsevles indefinatly thru the RNA .It also has something to do with the amino acid strands of polypeptide bonds within our DNA,
and the fatty lipids.....and when activated we will become physically imortal as well as the eternal 'God' we have always been....because the RNA will replicate everycell indefinately..

This is my interpretation of What Ion has been saying , I have posted similar posts in more detail on here several times hoping someone else has been following them, but no responce I have seen yet..This is only a brief overlay ...

I don't know if this is true or not, but reasonates in me somewhere.....The credentials of the charectors on the show are good. Bill and Kerry interviewed James Martinez in nov 2009 on mp3.That is how I became aware of him, and listened to his show 'Cash flow' out of curiosity before I knew of Ions existance'
Kerrys/Bills interview was not about Ion, but James former business parter Walter Bowarte author of operation mind control......I asked Bill a few weeks ago about his thoughts on Ion, he said it was something he had heard about and was going to look into more when he had time.......Jame Martinez said a month ago he was going to be interviewed by Kerry again, but with both having busy schedules this has not happened yet !

Finally James said on last weeks show that he had been in touch with Jesse Ventura team about a possible interview about mind control and introducing Ion to a tv audiance.
All in all very interesting stuff , but the main reason for bringing it up is that, if there is anything to this it is supposed to be happening soon? as far as I can see !!!!

Cheers Steve
Ion Explaining RNA in the body....(added 9th march)
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Bob, Dr Carolyn Dean,Bobs wife and prominent medical Doctor http://drcarolyndean.com/
and James asking Ion about RNA & commenting on the article........

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Bob said ion has been creating u/tubes electronically from the cash flow archive from non physical...
just found some and was listening to one about currency....3/4 he asks another question
I sent, ( i have asked loads with various degrees of cryptic answers I am trying to decipher ..LOL)....
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By the way Ion sort of qualifies as Bob calls him the the real ET , also recently his thinks as he is non-physcial he could be pure electricity !!!!.....

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------update 8th feb 2012...
James Martinez own hour show broadcast 7th feb 2012....
Shows how awake this presenter/researcher is he is more
aware than most to what is going on,,,,,,,,,,
He keeps a relitively low profile because that is his personality,
I think he is right on the ball epecially in the financial and
media world, so his work with Bob,Carolyn & Ion makes me
believe there is more to disclosure than people realise.....

http://www.achieveradio.com/archplayer.php?showname=Cash%20Flow%20with%20James%20Martinez&sn=66&ShowURL=http://audio.achieveradio.com/cash-flow/2012-02-07--1200---Cash_Flow.mp3

[Tigressa]

Dear Bill,

If your message is this then why have your secluded yourself in the hills of Ecuador? Why have you taken refuge when the voice of the people is perhaps best heard at grass roots among the people?

I feel like you have been undermined by people close to you (Inelia?) who have taken away your ability to speak freely once again.

So subtle. Yet Charles and all the dark ones couldn't have one a better job.

[ThePythonicCow]

Hi Bill I asked Ion several months ago on James Martinez show via a email question live during the show...
Whether Israel was going to nuke Iran in the near future, his answer was yes I did post it on here
I'll have a look and see if I can find it...
Is this it: Declassified: Massive Israeli manipulation of US media exposed - Post #11 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35841-Declassified-Massive-Israeli-manipulation-of-US-media-exposed&p=367805&viewfull=1#post367805)

[ThePythonicCow]

Why have you taken refuge when the voice of the people is perhaps best heard at grass roots among the people?
Just my guess here ... perhaps the main limitations to Bill's voice are (1) in the first meter - from his inner being to his keyboard, and (2) in the last meter, from our computer monitors to our inner being. With this whiz bang Internet thingie, the distance between is trivial.

Another guess - perhaps Bill is finding Vilcabamba to be a good place to improve his end of this.

[Carmen]

Good to see George Green again. He was the first whitleblower interview I ever saw and also my intro to this forum, actually the old one! Really liked him.

[starwalk]

Thank you Bill, for the courage to share with us your personal memories.
It is such a miracle that your could bare those memories and more miraculous to be free from the fear of those ideas right now. This means that you are not open anymore for a future of believers of lies and horrorstories. We go and fy towards the golden age of peace and thank you so much for the wonderful work that you do for all.
With Love

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Paul thats great I've been looking for that on and off, and it completes the above post,
may have some relevance to what is happening in the bigger picture ??...Cheers Steve

[Senso]

Bill this is so good. . . .thank you for sharing this most important message and experience. I think we are all being bought to a point of remembering. . . .my heart sings with your words. . thank you in light always Senso

[Irishsinger]

Thanks, Bill, for sharing this powerful information. Being new to Project Avalon, I thought I'd share one hopeful scenario of unfoldment, in keeping with Inelia Benz' encouragement to empower the timeline leading toward hope and freedom. We manifest the story we tell ourselves. So amidst the necessary wake-up calls regarding the Plans of Fear (for which I am grateful), I would like to offer one scenario of how things might actually play out, aligning with the Plans of Hope that the PTB (or the Powers That Were, as David W. likes to call them) don't know about:

February 2012: A global realignment of more than 150 currencies shifts the power away from the Federal Reserve faction, triggered by the 3,000-fold revaluation of the Iraqi dinar, creating a wave of prosperity that sweeps across the globe, wiping out the American deficit, and tying each nation's currency, not to the gold standard (which makes them vulnerable to having their gold stolen, e.g., China and the Fed), but to a formula based on each nation's natural assets, i.e., oil reserves, mineral deposits, intellectual property, governmental stability. This realignment is actually sitting on the back screens of computers at banks around the world at this very moment, about to be implemented. The PTB has tried desperately to stop it. Kerry Cassidy has reported on it. James Martinez has obliquely announced it. One insider has said that only WWIII could stop it. Look for it this week or soon after.

March, 2012: Massive reform of the global banking system follows in the wake of the currency realignment. The Federal Reserve is dismantled. Confusion and political unrest in the U.S. follows this huge shake-up, as Occupy protesters rage against seemingly being shut out of the new prosperity. New media and alternative community spokespeople try to get the real story out to the masses as disinformation abounds. The PTB try to stage a comeback but are thwarted. By April things start to settle down, as the positive economic effects begin to be felt.

April 2012: Queen Elizabeth II steps down in the wake of revelations of Windsor family ties to the cabal. Princess Diana's younger son Princy Harry (who is not the son of Prince Charles) is crowned king as it is revealed that Diana herself was descended from an unacknowledged son of Queen Elizabeth the First with Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford, and that Harry is therefore royal even without Windsor blood. A movement arises to abolish the monarchy. Meanwhile, mass arrests of political, military, and intelligence figures in the U.S. and UK follow revelations of the nature and extent of the Fed cabal.

May, 2012: Several powerful Coronal Mass Ejections wake people up worldwide to the fact that we must cooperate or perish, as powerful magnetic effects batter the planet. The communications grid is damaged but not destroyed. Internet use is affected but not shut down. An emergency summit meeting takes place in Brazil to put in place a fast-responding replacement for the discredited UN to deal with the crisis.

June 2012: The story begins to emerge of how the cabal was taken down. First worldwide acknowledgment of contact with extra-terrestrials who helped defeat the cabal. Culture shock sweeps the planet, as fundamentalists in all three Abrahamic faiths have their paradigms shattered. Buddhists and Hindus take it more in stride. The discredited Catholic Church sees a mass exodus of the faithful to liberal Protestant churches or to New Age non-denominational yoga meditation sects.

July 2012: Barack Obama remains president, but is discredited. Similarly discredited, the GOP in desperation drafts Jeb Bush as nominee, but the Bush ties to the cabal are revealed, damning his candidacy. In the wake of the massive upheaval, a flat-tax, no-foreign intervention platform suddenly makes a lot of sense - Ron Paul runs as an independent with Elizabeth Warren as running mate and is stunned to find himself at the top of the polls. Meanwhile, in the UK, an amazing archaelogical find irrefutably overturns the authorship of the Shakespeare plays, providing solid documentation of Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford as the pen behind the Shakespeare name. His lineal descendant Prince Harry ascends the throne as King Henry the Ninth in an astonishing restoration of the Tudor Dynasty, as the Windsors are put out to pasture. The innocent lower echelons of the Freemasons reconnect to their pre-cabal, pre-Sabbatean, Mystery School roots, with the Shakespeare canon becoming their bible.

August - November, 2012 Earth changes accelerate, with more CME's creating worldwide panic. Spiritual effects of global revival begin to be felt, as Inelia Benz and other vibration-raisers help awaken each soul to his or her divine potential. Massive refugee problems exacerbate nationalist fears and race hatreds, creating potential for reactionary backlash, as the Powers That Were attempt a comeback. Ron Paul is elected president of the U.S., but resigns in favor of Elizabeth Warren, citing health and age concerns. As December 21st looms, doomsday fears abound, but gradually subside as the global financial reforms and the Global Settlements reach effective distribution.

December 2012: Doomsday scenarios fail to materialize, as worldwide prayer and meditation gatherings numbering in the billions create an unprecedented vibration of peace as the Solstice arrives. The planet wakes up on December 22 facing decades-long challenges of healing and reform on all levels: environmental, financial, political, spiritual.

2012 - 2025: The forces of fear and greed regather themselves at several intervals in this period. Rabid nationalists in China come to power and attempt an invasion of the U.S., but are repelled. The U.S. Constitution is substantially reformed, and decentralized government and local control of the means of production are implemented. Free energy technologies repressed by the old cabal come into play and create a new global economic model, as the oil hegemony dynamic fades into history. A new Global Council is created from regional entities reflecting cultural, geographic and religious realities. The E.T.s retreat into an advisory role. A New Age for planet Earth finally begins to flourish. Dark forces re-emerge cyclically in accordance with the planet's nature as a spiritual school. Bill Ryan retires to an environmentally restored Africa, living to a ripe and vital old age.

Ya never know...it could happen! :)

Irishsinger

[Orion142]

I could not agree more with your sentiments SomaSmith. Great words, and that is what we should all aim for as a species. After all we are all one part of the whole. The whole being the universal consciousness.

[tonyp]

Hey Bill....no need to cry>>>>just ask them them why they made you cry man....they just the same as us with a few more tricks than we have....they no different from you and I....except for the tricks......Oy the One whose goldfish bowl we all live in ...PS...I know all the physics and universe crap by the way....has a lot to answer for....one day I hope to meet the one and have a party....cos persona;;y I think the one is lonely and just wants to party.....a radical thought

[CivilDawn]

I'm interested in learning more about the Scientology Processing used to recount past life experiences. I have this itch I can't scratch and I feel like there is some important information hidden in my past lives. Google hasn't been very helpful to me so maybe some of you may know a good place to start for someone who is uneducated in the methods of experiencing past lives in this particular manner.

Would I benefit from inquiring at the Church of Scientology in my city?

Also, is this a process I can undergo by myself or would I be better off having assistance from someone trained up on this kind of stuff?

[Alie]

[QUOTE=Tigressa;421092]
I've been thinking about Vilcabamba for a few days now. I bet 99% of us will not be able to go there. But what if that were a place that draws us during the "winter of our lives"? Maybe they are the pioneers for that place. I say this because I AM in the late fall/early winter season. And I'm thinking that I don't want to go to a retirement home and play cards all day. I'd rather belong to a commune ---- hippy roots I guess.

[nomadguy]

Carlita meets George Green and Bill Ryan (from Project Camelot) through mutual friends for dinner along with Christine Anderson from Vilcabamba (audio)
http://sailingbeyondknowledge.podomatic.com/entry/2012-02-08T10_37_26-08_00
http://assets.podomatic.net/mymedia/thumb/1252968/285%3E_5758241.jpg?1328728816
Sounds like a video is likely to come out soon

:thumb:

[Sidney]

Carlita meets George Green and Bill Ryan (from Project Camelot) through mutual friends for dinner along with Christine Anderson from Vilcabamba (audio)
http://sailingbeyondknowledge.podomatic.com/entry/2012-02-08T10_37_26-08_00
http://assets.podomatic.net/mymedia/thumb/1252968/285%3E_5758241.jpg?1328728816
Sounds like a video is likely to come out soon

:thumb:

Great picture, look at all the orbs!!

[Alie]

Carlita meets George Green and Bill Ryan (from Project Camelot) through mutual friends for dinner along with Christine Anderson from Vilcabamba (audio)
http://sailingbeyondknowledge.podomatic.com/entry/2012-02-08T10_37_26-08_00
http://assets.podomatic.net/mymedia/thumb/1252968/285%3E_5758241.jpg?1328728816
Sounds like a video is likely to come out soon

:thumb:

:cool: Well worth listening to!

[Bill Ryan]

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A better photo! Note the orbs in the picture.

The presentation I gave might be valuable... audio and video will be up on YouTube in the next few days.

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_Cuenca_orbs_6_Feb_2012.jpg

[Andrew]

Thanks, was a good listen, look forward to seeing the video.

[Christine]

Hello Tigressa,

Sister Tiger, being that I am off the same lineage (La Tigra) I thought I might take up your post with some comments of my own.

Within a few short sentences you have brought up many valid questions. I am not quite sure I am up to answering them all but I can give it my best shot. So tackling one question at a time and perhaps tying some threads together to make sense.

If you have followed any of my posts you will know that I live in Vilcabamba, Ecuador. I would like to try and give an adequate personal description of this village, why here and why now. It may appear that one is hiding out in the hills of Ecuador but nothing could be further from the truth. It is becoming sharply apparent that this little village holds many keys to unlocking our common humanity and the serious questions before each and everyone of us today.

I know that Bill, like hundreds of other highly capable people have been called to Ecuador, I am sure Bill would say that this was the most unlikely of places to find himself. Parts of Ecuador and other places on our planet are going to be on the front line of the new paradigm. I don’t wish to paint that statement in any new age hazy sort of way. There is an enormous amount of work on all fronts that is being addressed here.

The projects range from delving deeper into our spiritual understanding and remembering our ancient past – who we are, why are we here and where are we going. There are groups working within the local political structure, groups working toward education, folks working on farms and implementing the best organic and bio dynamic farming techniques, many preparing for any eventuality for our physical safety and folks from just about any walk of life and educational background that one could imagine -- all drawn here to this valley.

In our last community workshop, with a show of hands, 90% of 100 people felt they were called to this area. We consciously agree that we are here to do a job.

While working diligently to be the change in the world we want to see, there is a growing dark shadow that has reached down into this area too. We are a grass roots movement including the local population who we are grateful for and dependent upon.

We would be ill advised or not aware to discard the possible repercussions of this darkness, and so with the banner of vigilance and being prepared we gather around us capable, highly ethical people to bring forth the light of truth.

I do not think that Bill has been silenced in any way. In my conversations with him we often touch on the great need for solutions in the world. The work, as I understand it now, is to cut through all old paradigm thought patterns and find the voice of Truth itself. The veil of deception has been sufficiently lifted and the need now is to ring a bell of ultimate freedom.

I understand that Bill has been going through his own metamorphic process, not to be confused with being silenced. His commitment to truth and transparency is unflagging and fearless.

I do hope this helps allay any fears you may have that a great voice has been silenced. I suspect Bill will have much to say in the near future.

Blessings to all,

La Tigra

[Mark]

It is my understanding, perhaps through Drunvalo and others, that the spiritual meridian of the world (not sure of the exact designation) has moved from the Himalayas to the Andes. I've often thought that was the reason why South America has come into such focus in recent decades. I myself and others I know have talked about, thought about and considered moving to S. America, long before I ever came to this forum so I know it is a very real phenomenon going on that is past any "cult of personality" that may exist. There is a "call" that many feel to move down South.

[onawah]

I have felt a call from Brazil, home to an amazing wealth of crystal.
Not for this lifetime, but next one, perhaps...

[Tony]

One can learn to die anywhere, London, California...or even Vilcabamba!

[another bob]

One can learn to die anywhere, London, California...or even Vilcabamba!

Aha! Your best post yet, Brother!

:yo:

[Carmody]

One can learn to die anywhere, London, California...or even Vilcabamba!

Aha! Your best post yet, Brother!

:yo:

My father's best line so far, was, "When I die, don't waste the money on a funeral. Just get the tractor, and a chain with a hook, drag my body to the back of the acreage.....and let the crows feed on me. It's just a vessel. It means nothing."

I'd be tempted to fulfill that wish, almost with a grin on my face....but the rest of the family would probably not understand. My mother thought it was hilarious, though.

[Alekahn]

Many of us are 'dying before we die' it seems. I have found it good practice, no matter our geo-location. Learning to die, learning to live into our future. Accepting all conditions and circumstances of that living and dying with courage and tenacity.

I am seriously considering a move to Colombia with a close friend and her family who has deep historical connections there. This opportunity has only recently arisen and I have to say,
it is a most complex/intense process to imagine and then act upon moving full-time to South America from the USofAmnesia. The sheer logistics of such a move are staggering in certain respects. Family and friends would resist the idea strongly. The movement of tools, gear/personal possessions, etc. is costly and tricky. Taxes, student loans, debt...and all that. It is daunting to consider.
The question arises...is there a significance to what particular continent/culture we incarnate onto/into? Does this matter any more in evolutionary terms?

Powerful choices are being made by each of us. Many have firmly made the choice and many are on the edge of whether to stay put and hold ground or to relocate geographically, uprooting to journey into an unknown space and time. And of course there are many who are 'stuck' where they are, seemingly without choice. A quandary many are facing these enigmatic days
and have been facing for quite a long period of spiraling time throughout our hidden history.

The prophecy of the Eagle and the Condor comes to mind when I envision what may come to pass, what may be possible. A re-linking and truer union?

Thank you Carmody for sharing that quote from your father. Much appreciated.

[another bob]

My father's best line so far, was, "When I die, don't waste the money on a funeral. Just get the tractor, and a chain with a hook, drag my body to the back of the acreage.....and let the crows feed on me. It's just a vessel. It means nothing."

I'd be tempted to fulfill that wish, almost with a grin on my face....but the rest of the family would probably not understand.

They would if they were Tibetan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_burial

:yo:

[charlesfrith]

What orbs? I can't see them ;)

[Limor Wolf]

I have only listened to a one hour of the Vilcabamba talk so far, Carlita the hostess ,expressed at the begining of the podcast her contention to Bill's claims for possibility of Coronal mass ejections having an interference with radio waves, satellite, internet etc. since, according to her,if one searches the behaviour of those objects they apear around the sun everyday and they are "harnessing the sun's energy ,therefore,buffering the effect of Coronal mass ejections" .

I wonder, as someone who have very little understanding in those things, wich is the more reasonable approach.. ?

In any case, the favours are now more towords Bill's approach if judging by this today's Daily Mail news item -


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2100082/Massive-sunspot-DOUBLED-size-recent-days-send-solar-storms-careering-Earth.html

We will wait and see.. hopefully not. but it is not so unreasonable to make some preperations for it. physically and mentally .
What are your thoughts?

[birddog]

Hi, I would honestly love to say that all this is behind us, but I cannot. We may be in for the fight of our lives. That does not mean that we will lose or be destroyed, but there are rough times ahead. I understand that some of the 'agencies' are telling their people to 'get ready' and be prepared at home. We all should do the same with a clean water supply..bottled water, canned food, esp, beans, tuna, salmon, first aid, flashlights, batteries, matches, radio, and keep your gas tank on your car full. Have blankets, camping gear, sleeping bags, tents, ect, together in case you and your family have to leave the area. If you meditate, please put on some soft music and 'feel the love' in the music, pull it down through your crown chakra, down into your own heart, and send it out into the world to everybody. This is more helpful then you even know, for we are raising the consciousness of the world by changing the vibration. Prayer works well in this effort too. Have you ever seen pictures of water after it has been prayed over...example...someone giving thanks for a meal or the water? The water molecules change and appear as a crystals. Now, think what happens to us when we pray, meditate and send love out into the world? Believe---We are truly unlimited if only we believe.

I believe that the light will always overcome the darkness, but a storm of great proportions may ensue before that happens.

There is so much to all of this that is going on, and there is no easy fix, but the one thing 'they don't want you to do is to raise your consciousness and become unlimited'. You may open yourself to spiritual gifts that you never knew you had. :) For my part, I hope that you do.

Get to know your neighbors...there is strength in numbers......and have a plan...be prepared. Just in case. The 'strength in numbers' is one reason that some at the top want the wars, chemtrails, floride in our water, ect. ''They" want to control us, and now we are too many to control.

[Tigressa]

Past life therapy is a wonderful way to unpack all the stored up trauma in your energy field.
It is also just so much fun. Much better fun than watching tv at night, why not watch your own personal movie? At the same time you release all this emotion and it's a total trip!

My field of interest is Crystal Dreaming - the crystals are laid in a mandala around the person making the journey. The crystals enable the person to journey quickly and safely to the place where they need to be unlock the story that needs processing.

A good facilitator keeps the ball rolling and keeps the client safe within a matrix of love. Love is very protecting.
You can get great information about your personal future and about your place in the Universe. Your past lives, future lives and where you are going.
You might have to undo some promises, unblock some walls, to get to where you need to be too.

The best part of Crystal Dreaming is you do it YOURSELF! How can you learn how powerful you really are, how simple it is to assert your power, unless you do it yourself?

There are lots of ways accessing past lives. I am sure that if people want a great past life healing and ask the Universe to help them find the best person to help with that, a wonderful experience will come to them pronto.

Love and light to all & healing to mother earth.
(Healing our own wounds, we heal our the collective!)

[Tony]

Unfortunately Vilcabama is full of old hippies, with a bit of money to protect.
What is being missed, is that if there were to be a catastrophe, the people that will be of most importance, will be the young!

..And they cannot afford to go there.

..And orbs?

[nomadguy]

Unfortunately Vilcabama is full of old hippies, with a bit of money to protect.
What is being missed, is that if there were to be a catastrophe, the people that will be of most importance, will be the young!

..And they cannot afford to go there.

..And orbs?

This is very true, thank you for bringing this up!

[HaveBlue]

I do believe in Orbs. I have seen them myself. In a pitch black room at night with no light source from anywhere that could reflect light off a dust particle. But I also believe in dust particles too. Is there a good way to tell the difference?

Bill Ryan is such a person that it is no surprise that digital pics of him would have orbs in them. It is really all the 'me too' posts that may follow that will/likely be dust particles that is the main reason for this post.
And then there'll be the ones that will try and make Bill and us 'believers' (knowers) out to be fools.
It may turn out that in order to 'get it' you have to experience such things your self.
Thanks for the pics anyway, I enjoy them and UFO pics, even the photoshopped ones like I have for wallpaper on my desktop.

[Renne]

Thank you, Bill. Brings up many thoughts of my former lifetimes. It's very, very awful experience. I actually can't recall any of them, but I can feel that I was first a child killed in a horrible torture, and then reincarnated a vicious, ruthless and really power-thirst man who killed a lot of life and did a lot of other evil things. It's not clear, but I'm sure I have done something so bad that I can't bear to look at it, no to mention forgiving myself. And in this lifetime, I was born with poor character as well as poor health. I have been ill in half of my lifetime and still carry chronics in the other half. It feels like that my body is struggling and exhausting to carry this over-weight soul.

[Yheraluna]

Bill, of all people on earth, for some reason your voice resonates most true with me. I joined the forum for this. The interviews you and Kerry made are by far the most important pieces of "information" for me. While I believe in nothing, my ears and eyes are most open to those I resonate with most. I believe in nothing because no thing in this existence is THE truth, everything is. However, some things are easier to hear due to how my own perception works for now. So I thank you for all your work and your words and your existence!

EXACTLY. I couldn't have said it better! It is more than obvious that you were meant to be doing the things you are doing, Bill. What There is a GOOD REASON that you just NOW remembered what happened. It was released to you now for a reason that I hope you understand and are taking full advantage of. In a way, it is so great that you didn't remember it until now because not knowing it probably aided your tenacity to keep searching hard for all the "answers" with such dedication and respect. This revelation is HUGE and I just know you just "graduated" from something and are now off to your next big chapter. I bet you are going to be dealt brand new and exciting things hand over fist now. I can't wait to see where this "new" road takes you. Thank you so much for sharing such a personal experience. This is going to be good... :cool:

[jcocks]

Unfortunately Vilcabama is full of old hippies, with a bit of money to protect.
What is being missed, is that if there were to be a catastrophe, the people that will be of most importance, will be the young!

..And they cannot afford to go there.

..And orbs?

And to them I would say "You are where you need to be at this time. If the universe intends you to be somewhere else, it will furnish you with the ability and circumstances to move there."..

I've got to think that way, as things just aren't lining up for me to move anywhere else right now, even if I desired to move anywhere else. The best way to handle situations is to go with the flow. I know I will move eventually, but when that time comes I know for a fact that there will be no way that I *WON'T* move, as circumstances will require that I move and the means to move and place to move to will manifest themselves when they are needed. The universe always looks after you, *TRUST* in this, for it is, I guarantee, 100% true. I have never gone without anything that I did not need. If I have gone without anything, it was because I did not *NEED* it!

[Bo Atkinson]

RE Scientology effectiveness for hidden memories, as some seem to have asked...

(I have tried to get off of all their promo lists to no avail. They will always try to sell more of their stuff to you!)

I liked some brief studies there, like what seemed to be a key memory process. (That was 1978 for me). I took the Dianetics course centering on the process called R3R. I took training to practice their "processing". I think the training seemed effective, as well as the process-for-some-people... I even tried receiving a little "student processing" but realized that it was not workable for my life circumstances: It was just too complicated to travel, too time consuming to invest plus pay for it, plus find good paying jobs, change my life plan, etc... I especially got offended by their authoritarianism. However the R3R process could be looked up, if people are curious, as to the effective "commands" for the processes. These are interesting at the least, (if taken seriously enough)..... I still hear echoing: "... was there an earlier similar incident?..." People can really open up, given the right circumstances. The "rules" for all this are critically important and very sensible, but the sort of militant-bureaucratic style of the organizations turned me off permanently.

[AuCo]

We may have avoided a terrible juncture in our path where it would have lead us to WW3 when McCain was not elected as president in 2008. After all he did promise "I'm sorry to tell you, there's going to be other wars." Recently, he said "Arab Spring is coming to China" uoHgz_78GWs at 1:15. Personally, and I know many of us will frown at what I will say, I do hope so. We are so focus on TPTB, we at times forget to pay attention to this sleeping giant.

Well things that are human-made like wars might be avoided. But I am not sure about things caused by nature herself.

I have heard many folks voiced their despite towards TPTB? Well, I am not sure of who they really are. I have heard of Alternative3, of the yellow cube mentioned in one of Dr Burisch's interviews that the human race needed to be saved from impending disaster. And only some could be saved which means most of us will perish. Was it TPTB who decides who best to save to preserve the human race? Is that wrong, I don't know, given that I know NOT what they know. Jake Simpsons was still working for them knowing it though he had to face the same moral decision every day, wasn't he?

I have a little story to share. When the North Vietnamese army was overrunning South Vietnam's resistance, my family (and many others) had to move away from their advancement. We boarded a commercial ship heading further south for Saigon. When the ship was not allowed to go into port because of heightened security, they decided to go to Singapore. The soldiers protested and the port sent some barges to unload the people who wanted to go to shore. My dad had to carry the family one by one down a rope strung down the side of the ship onto the barge below; it was night time and I saw many people fell into the dark sea and lost their lives scaling these ropes. Once on the barge, my mom did the head count and she asked where my little sister was who was 7 at the time; I was 10 and the oldest of 4, and dad said he had left her behind on the ship and that we had to move on and away from the ever growing stampede. Mom said she would not leave until dad go back onto the ship and find her which he did. Then when we were all united and found an open spot on the barge to rest, mom felt uneasy and wanted to move onto the next barge over, by means of a very narrow wooden plank loosely connecting the two rocking barges. Well dad fought back but gave in and we did move. Just when we came over to the next barge and barely sat down, the other barge floor collapsed and a lot more people died. Well, many people could not get off the ship; the next day the North took over Saigon and they ended up settling in America. My family got to shore only a couple years later wished we had stayed on the ship. I alone escaped by boat to the Philippines in 1981, sponsored the rest of the family over in early 90's, except for the one my dad almost left on the ship who got married and could not be sponsored. When my dad got his citizen ship, he filed paper to sponsor my sister and her family. He died of cancer before the visas were issued for my sister and all the paperwork could not be reinstated. Is it a strange twist of fate? I don't know. Any how, my dad reminds me of TPTB; and my mom, we fellow Avalonians.

After the North took over the South, foods were getting really scarce and I on occasions went to stay with grandma. From time to time her cousin would also come to visit and the two would talk about the future. My grandma was illiterate - couldn't read - and I do not know how she gained such knowledge. Mom told us tales of family having members incarnated from angel beings and such. Anyway, of the things they talked about, I did not recall hearing anything about WW3 or what caused it. Only that we should not live by the shoreline and stay away from the major population, and that there will be a time of chaos when people will raid the houses in search for foods, and the sea will boil and the sky will rain with fire. When my mom consulted with her about going to America, leaving her forever behind - thinking we could never return given the nature of the regime at the time. She said go and we shall return some day which to our disbelief we did. She also did say that there will be a time in America there would be so much chaos that we could not safely stay and must return. Being a 12-year old at the time, I did not think to ask her the many questions I have now. Still I hope it won't be the case for America is my second home.

Anyway, back to TPTB and the things that they do. Is it only to their benefits? I don't know. Is it the most "logical" thing to do facing the many variables at hand? maybe. Is it the most "humane" thing to do? maybe not. I've read the Yellow Stone super volcano awaiting to blow up. I've heard Duncan O' Finnioan and Dr. Bill Deagle having seen a fire canyon splitting America right down in the middle. I've read the earth is and had always grown bigger and that continents had split and drift apart. Now I heard of HARRP creating under sea earthquakes near subduction zones. Is it to relieve stress from somewhere else. I don't know. Is the Oregon tsunami worse or the Yellow Stone volcano. I don't know.

I've heard of elders of earth people sitting in the councils, to decide the best route for humanity. The Vietnamese said there are a few of theirs there. Now Vietnamese are no rich people materialistically and sure are not bankers. Are these elders TPTB? I don't know.

TPTB, hmm! Too bad Jake did not say much. :(

[Sharma]

Hiya,
I've been thinking about doing some past life work too - since first reading this post - and would like to do the process for myself rather than visit a psychic who can view the akashic records or A.N.Other person - Apparently Doreen Virtue, who's guidance and light i trust, has a CD that guides you thru the process so you can do the past life regression for yourself in the comfort of your own home - suits me, i'm very ' pipe and slippers ' !! :couch2:

[Tigressa]

Thanks for writing, I don't anything about scientology and I am always a curious soul.. ;) .
However I am clairvoyant and I was happy to meet some scientologists the other day so I could observe them.

What was interesting to me was that, while I perceived that their energy was relatively clear and it was all uniform...
It was like they all that the same energy configuration.
Energetically we come in all shapes and sizes, degrees of connection etc. Some people are very highly connected to spirit, some are boxed in and quite disconnected. This group were completely uniform.
I perceived them as have being contained by a large similar shaped boxy aura.

What I didn't like was that there none that were connected to the Source higher than the others. In fact I felt they were disconnected from the Source itself and using something as interlocuter between Source and themselves. I didn't like this. Your description of a militant-bureaucratic style of authority that controls others marries well with my observation I feel.




RE Scientology effectiveness for hidden memories, as some seem to have asked...

(I have tried to get off of all their promo lists to no avail. They will always try to sell more of their stuff to you!)

I liked some brief studies there, like what seemed to be a key memory process. (That was 1978 for me). I took the Dianetics course centering on the process called R3R. I took training to practice their "processing". I think the training seemed effective, as well as the process-for-some-people... I even tried receiving a little "student processing" but realized that it was not workable for my life circumstances: It was just too complicated to travel, too time consuming to invest plus pay for it, plus find good paying jobs, change my life plan, etc... I especially got offended by their authoritarianism. However the R3R process could be looked up, if people are curious, as to the effective "commands" for the processes. These are interesting at the least, (if taken seriously enough)..... I still hear echoing: "... was there an earlier similar incident?..." People can really open up, given the right circumstances. The "rules" for all this are critically important and very sensible, but the sort of militant-bureaucratic style of the organizations turned me off permanently.

[HaveBlue]

Bill shows his class again by totally ignoring foot in mouth disease once again. I however find some comments on this thread rather distasteful towards him. His 'abduction' by nice ETs reminds me of the time I 'abducted' a cat (of all things!) and took it to the vet where the cat was helped against it's own wishes. (here we go again)

Secondly and most importantly, Bill is not hiding anywhere. He has done his job for us all (humanity) already and nobody should look to him for answers. He is not responsible for you and your journey through life. He owes nobody here anything.

[webyourstuff]

Hi Bill-
Interesting story.

I very much know the phenomenon of that lifetime that won't blow into view!

I had done up a chart of what I can remember. From 900 ad to present it was pretty filled in.

But there was a period of time in the middle of the 1800's that I had nothing for. Finally, what I found in that empty space was a wild ride. Something worthy of your interviews, 'cept I'm not really ready for that.

Well done on all the past you are peeling cobwebs from.

[Anam Cara]

Thank you Bill for sharing this if not for the compassion alone you evoked in me. I can feel yours as well . It's wonderful how we can pass on to others what we have learned from our experiences. Perhaps, compassion for yourself was a great gift. I see it as a wonderful gift to us here, Thanks again.

[Anam Cara]

After reading a few replies to Bill's post referring to nuclear disaster, I recall a vision I had when in my early 20's. I was quite the intellectual snob then and thought the intellect was the ultimate. The vision I had was of such deadness and desolation that it scared the bejesus outta me. It was of what using only the intellect leads to, it was rational, logical and mechanical with utterly no feeling as if what it would be like being a machine. It was twofold. When a teen I used to have nightmares that terrified me as well. In them a black being with red eyes was coming at me and there was nothing I could do to defend myself against it. What horrified me the most for what I discovered was that this being was not capable of love in anyway, it was heartless I realize now I was dealing with a robotic being and that now, we do determine our future, whether it be as masters of machines or machines being our masters. It would make great sci fi anyway, if I choose to write it. Still for what they are doing with nano technology, I have found, it is good to be aware of these things if not for the fascinating science behind it alone.

[Anam Cara]

I have many pics of orbs that I have intentionally taken since 2008. They are fascinating because I discovered how I was feeling could determine what kind of pictures I would get. Orbs are great for realizations relative to the one taking the pictures and their intent. This is one thing I learned anyway. ;)

[Leon]

Very interesting, yes I have collections of past lives I know I have had at least 9...

I also know how I died in the last one or more to the point I was killed. compared to this lifetime I would sometimes rather live my last lifetime...

I would talk about it but not so easily.

[Anam Cara]

Much ado about nothing huh another Bob? Still...I appreciate what Bill has shared with us for his heartfelt kindness and care for us humans that are down to earth...I resonate with Bill's experiences...with my heart...

[knuppsli]

Thank you for these inspiring words, Bill. It is my firm belief, no,
knowledge, that we DECIDED to be here, right here, right now,
to either experience something extraordinary, or to fix something.
I even think it's both.

I think there will come a time very soon, where we will
be able/have to choose between one of these timelines
(the fork in the road, as david icke likes to say),
that are being created right now (well, at least from our human
perception of "time", which actually doesn't exist). The timeline of
enlightenement and perfect balance (between good&evil, yin&yang,
light&dark male&female etc....) or the exact opposite. BOTH timelines
DO exist, always have existed, always will exist, because they have to.
EVERYTHING and NOTHING exists.

Once I had a psychoactive experience with Salvia Divinorum
(was my decision and never regretted it, what a wonderful plant
with a square stem) and in that, albeit, short experience, I jumped
back in my own timeline to the "me" as a child, about 4 or 5 years
old. I jumped in to my childhood body and I REALIZED IT (as a child).
This just to say that we are trapped in the illusion of time and space.

Long story short, we chose to be here, we chose to read your
inspiring words, theres a reason for all these things, period.

Thank you once again, Bill

[Strat]

We saw burning cities: billions of people dying in agony. The entire Northern Hemisphere was laid to waste. Plants, animals, forests, seas, men, women, children – all destroyed. South America and Central to Southern Africa were spared. The nightmare vision was apocalyptic and as dreadful as one could imagine.

This is very interesting to me because the majority of religious text (across all cultures and continents) speak of a time of a deluge. The story of the last ice age is horrendous and your vision is nearly identical to what our last ice age would have been like.

Some folks (obviously) believe we are/were headed in this direction. Even the Mayans (correct me if I'm wrong). Apparently they would line up literally thousands of people. They would have a few priests on either side of these lines, and the priests would just go down the line killing everyone. They believed they were stalling the end of the world because the 'bad god' won a war against the 'good god' and the bad god wanted blood sacrifices. Hopefully I didn't butcher that story.

Other folks suggest this still applies, and that the wars we are involved in are part of this stalling process. Do you subscribe to this theory?




So: here we are. And I need to draw some important words of conclusion.

I do [I]NOT believe that this future will happen, that hundreds of us were shown in 1946. I think we’ve avoided it.

If I could speak frankly, why do you believe this? Intuition?

[onawah]

Strat, the Mayans you describe in your post were not operating from an enlightened consciousness.
Over time, those tribes lost touch with the wisdom of their ancient ancestors.
Anything they did along the line of blood sacrifices can be attributed to ignorance, not wisdom.

[WHOMADEGOD]

I do believe in Orbs. I have seen them myself. In a pitch black room at night with no light source from anywhere that could reflect light off a dust particle. But I also believe in dust particles too. Is there a good way to tell the difference?

Bill Ryan is such a person that it is no surprise that digital pics of him would have orbs in them. It is really all the 'me too' posts that may follow that will/likely be dust particles that is the main reason for this post.
And then there'll be the ones that will try and make Bill and us 'believers' (knowers) out to be fools.
It may turn out that in order to 'get it' you have to experience such things your self.
Thanks for the pics anyway, I enjoy them and UFO pics, even the photoshopped ones like I have for wallpaper on my desktop.

Study my Avatar, their not dust particles! Simples :-)

Blessings

Mark

[Anam Cara]

Love the orb WHOMADEGOD. Do you take pictures of them? I have been since 2008. They are fascinating!

[WHOMADEGOD]

Love the orb WHOMADEGOD. Do you take pictures of them? I have been since 2008. They are fascinating!

Hi there, yes they are incredible, but no I dont take pictures of orbs, just lucky! Now Bills pic by the tree with thousands of orbs, that is something!!!

[Anam Cara]

I don't think I am familiar with Bill's pic of orbs could you direct me to it? Thanx in advance.

[WHOMADEGOD]

I don't think I am familiar with Bill's pic of orbs could you direct me to it? Thanx in advance.

If you go to "Bill Ryans Threads" and look for the thread "Orbs" (strangely enough!), it was posted the 16 September 2011.

The pictures are the first ones posted, great thread enjoy.

[Ilie Pandia]

Hi,

Here is the link to Bill's orbs photos: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29822-Orbs&p=302342&viewfull=1#post302342

[WHOMADEGOD]

Hi,

Here is the link to Bill's orbs photos: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29822-Orbs&p=302342&viewfull=1#post302342

Thanks Illie, I would have supplied a link bit just typing on this android cell phone is tricky enough, besides half the fun is the journey not the destination!

[Tigressa]

Hola hermanita Tigra,

Excuse me for not replying earlier. It is very sweet and loving of you to want to shield Bill with your kind words, I feel it from far away.
My letter was rough it is true. My concern for him does come from a place of unconditional love for Bill and his good work - though it may seem hardly apparent.
Protecting a spiritual organisation from the darkness can be a difficult job, as I know. I won't comment further in this way other than to point out I feel fear blocks flow and metamorphosis helps flow.

Actually I am extremely familiar with El Ecuador, Vilcabama & Madre Tierra - I did not feel called to stay the country more than the 6 years I enjoyed there. ;)

Blessings in love and light to all Avalonians always,

Tigressa.





Hello Tigressa,

Sister Tiger, being that I am off the same lineage (La Tigra) I thought I might take up your post with some comments of my own.

Within a few short sentences you have brought up many valid questions. I am not quite sure I am up to answering them all but I can give it my best shot. So tackling one question at a time and perhaps tying some threads together to make sense.

If you have followed any of my posts you will know that I live in Vilcabamba, Ecuador. I would like to try and give an adequate personal description of this village, why here and why now. It may appear that one is hiding out in the hills of Ecuador but nothing could be further from the truth. It is becoming sharply apparent that this little village holds many keys to unlocking our common humanity and the serious questions before each and everyone of us today.

I know that Bill, like hundreds of other highly capable people have been called to Ecuador, I am sure Bill would say that this was the most unlikely of places to find himself. Parts of Ecuador and other places on our planet are going to be on the front line of the new paradigm. I don’t wish to paint that statement in any new age hazy sort of way. There is an enormous amount of work on all fronts that is being addressed here.

The projects range from delving deeper into our spiritual understanding and remembering our ancient past – who we are, why are we here and where are we going. There are groups working within the local political structure, groups working toward education, folks working on farms and implementing the best organic and bio dynamic farming techniques, many preparing for any eventuality for our physical safety and folks from just about any walk of life and educational background that one could imagine -- all drawn here to this valley.

In our last community workshop, with a show of hands, 90% of 100 people felt they were called to this area. We consciously agree that we are here to do a job.

While working diligently to be the change in the world we want to see, there is a growing dark shadow that has reached down into this area too. We are a grass roots movement including the local population who we are grateful for and dependent upon.

We would be ill advised or not aware to discard the possible repercussions of this darkness, and so with the banner of vigilance and being prepared we gather around us capable, highly ethical people to bring forth the light of truth.

I do not think that Bill has been silenced in any way. In my conversations with him we often touch on the great need for solutions in the world. The work, as I understand it now, is to cut through all old paradigm thought patterns and find the voice of Truth itself. The veil of deception has been sufficiently lifted and the need now is to ring a bell of ultimate freedom.

I understand that Bill has been going through his own metamorphic process, not to be confused with being silenced. His commitment to truth and transparency is unflagging and fearless.

I do hope this helps allay any fears you may have that a great voice has been silenced. I suspect Bill will have much to say in the near future.

Blessings to all,

La Tigra

[norman]

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A better photo! Note the orbs in the picture.

The presentation I gave might be valuable... audio and video will be up on YouTube in the next few days.

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_Cuenca_orbs_6_Feb_2012.jpg

"ORB" pictures are meaningless without a reproduction of ALL the technical details. The way people dive into this phenomenon so fantastically without ANY technical reference points to work with is silly.

Digital photography is still in it's infancy. Silver halide/chemical photography (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_halide ), by comparison, would still be at the Daguerreotype stage:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daguerreotype


All that has evolved with digital so far ( apart from a switch to CMOS ) is the pixel density of the recorder of the image.

CARMODY made a great point a few months back, about this. It's possible that the pixel density is now so "nano" that something else is beginning to manifest with the recorded image. Why the nano nature of our own eye retina doesn't record it also is a mystery to me but there are always strange new twists to technological developments.

It's concievable that there is a quantum "breakthrough" occuring at certain pixel densities.

It's vital we always have a full record of the technical details of all these so called "orb" pictures so that the technical details can be cross checked and narrowed down to, possibly, something that can explain this phenomenon.

Otherwise, wishfull thinkers will kick off a bogus revolution in photographic science that will only serve to muddy the waters further on down the line.

Each photo has it's own "meta data". That would be a good start. Software that will access the meta data and show it to us is freely available from open source developers. The make and model of the camera and year of manufacture would also help. Certain photo sensor manufacturers provide certain sensors to certain manufacturers of cameras etc....

[Mr.Eman]

Hi, Folks:

Recently I remembered a highly traumatic event in my last lifetime. Sit tight, dear friends, and listen to this.

I have a clear recall of many lifetimes (some of which go way back) -- including a great deal of information about my lives from 1850-1901 and 1902-1924.

But the last lifetime (1925-1952) has always been obscured. When that happens -- i.e. everything is accessible and available except a certain period -- it always means that there's something sitting there that one just cannot bear to look at.

I've been researching my own past lives for 27 years. And finally, two weeks ago, I accessed the lifetime before this one. What I could not bear to look at was this.

I was abducted, by caring, concerned and benevolent ETs, in September 1946. This was very early for such things: a full 9 months before Roswell. I was abducted with hundreds of other selected individuals. And we were all shown -- graphically, experientially and unforgettably -- a possible future Earth.

I came apart when this repressed memory returned. We humans were together shown a very terrible future. We saw burning cities: billions of people dying in agony. The entire Northern Hemisphere was laid to waste. Plants, animals, forests, seas, men, women, children – all destroyed. South America and Central to Southern Africa were spared. The nightmare vision was apocalyptic and as dreadful as one could imagine.

We had all been chosen as messengers. Returned to Earth, with full recall of this awful experience, I was driven like a soul possessed to communicate what had happened -- and what I had been shown. But this was 1946: no-one would listen.

At that time I was in my very early 20s: an earnest, intelligent and sensitive young man. I was utterly ill-equipped to deal with this. I tried to talk to everyone I knew: friends, family, my fiancée. I was shunned, rejected, laughed at: mocked first with teasing laughter, then concern, then with fear, anger and rejection. I did all I could to tell the truth. And I tell you here: knowing the future – or believing that one knows it – is not a gift, it is a curse.

I don’t know what happened after that, except that I was reduced to a degree of inner torture that I would never wish on another soul. I reincarnated as Bill Ryan in February 1953, so I didn’t live for many years after my fateful experience. I died before I was 30, and I do not yet know how that life ended.

So: enter Bill Ryan. Many of you will not know that when I was a child I had a speech impediment. It was quite serious: I could barely speak. It was basically a heavy stammer. My throat chakra had a huge, tangled, energetic blockage.

I was mercilessly teased as a child, and at school lived in permanent anxiety of being asked questions by the teacher. I was very bright, and took refuge in academia and sport: I excelled at both. But I was an unhappy child. However, as time passed, I gradually overcame my handicap to become a teacher, a team-building specialist, and finally a researcher, an investigator, and a motivational and inspirational speaker with tens of millions of views on YouTube.

Just as in all my years of personal growth I never accessed my previous lifetime, I never had any clue why I was born with a stammer. And now, suddenly, last week, it all became clear. I collapsed in huge sobs in the arms of a dear friend as the avalanching realization came that the reason I could not speak as a child was because I ended my previous lifetime not being able to speak of my terrible experience. And just as I was teased and rejected by my friends at the end of my last lifetime, I was teased and rejected by my friends as a reborn child for the same reasons: simply because I was trying to say something.

The catharsis was total. After several days, last week, I came to a state of peace… in which I now write. So much was explained: my driven interest in esoteric subjects as a child (see my Avalon Interview Part 1, in which I tell the amusing story about how I wanted to write a story about ghosts and flying saucers as a child of 8), my commitment to be a teacher, my commitment to peace and harmony on Planet Earth, my teenage interest in scientific subjects such as quantum theory, relativity and astrophysics, and finally Projects Camelot and Avalon, dedicated to raising awareness and – guess what – changing the timeline of our collective experience. I imagine that few of us really know the reasons we make what we believe are free choices in our lives.

So: here we are. And I need to draw some important words of conclusion.

I do [I]NOT believe that this future will happen, that hundreds of us were shown in 1946. [I]I think we’ve avoided it.

What we were shown was a warning: not a prediction. As Inelia described in her May 2011 Avalon interview, we’re doing really well; and as Bill Wood stated in Kerry’s Camelot interview, we may only be a handful of Grandmaster chess moves away from an unavoidable checkmate of the black pieces.

The reasons why the benevolent ETs – themselves superhumanly intelligent and psychically gifted, and also deeply caring in a kind of ultimately parental way – have been focusing so intently on Planet Earth is simply to assist us in changing our own timeline. But we ourselves have to do that: they cannot.

The ET presence is simply about that. They have been our teachers: guiding, cajoling and motivating us, in extraordinarily clever and subtle ways (including many of them incarnating as humans), to take responsibility and make free choices that will result in a new collective agreement and therefore in a new collectively experienced reality.

The entire complexity is further entangled by certain ET races that have a vested interest in disaster and/or enslavement, not liberation – and by other races visiting us from the future who are intent on avoiding or changing timelines that from their own point of view have actually already occurred… the ultimate mindbender of all.

The reason I’m posting this story is to inspire and encourage others to come forward. Others have had a similar experience:




-- Miriam Delicado
http://projectcamelot.org/miriam_delicado.html

-- Jim Sparks
http://projectcamelot.org/jim_sparks.html

-- and this guy, “William” – who told Linda Howe a staggering and important story about the possible Third World War:
http://projectcamelot.org/index_archive_1.html -- and then scroll down to 16 July 2008.
It seems to have been a theme. Tens of thousands of us (maybe even millions) may have been warned in this way. It seems to have been at least part of the reason why abductions occur. Countless people will also have had this experience (as Jim Sparks explains) – and have not recalled it.

Repeat:

Maybe the ETs have been successful in this mission of theirs. I do NOT believe that this future will happen. I think we’ve avoided it.

What we were shown was a warning: not a prediction. As Inelia described in her May 2011 Avalon interview, we’re really doing pretty well; and as Bill Wood stated in Kerry’s recent Camelot interview, it’s possible that we may be only a handful of Grandmaster chess moves away from an inevitable checkmate of the black pieces.

When I was in Tibet, the community I was part of was united by one theme and one mission: to honor, protect, and work ceaselessly for the freedom of all living beings. In my work today, I try to echo that. It's a lesson not only for me, but for us all.
Hello Bill ,
Thanks for this story , and all the good work you have done . Best Wishes

[nomadguy]

suddenly I wanted to add something here:

Since we may have possibly(highly possible in my mind) averted a catastrophe beyond measure. What future is possible then?
What new paths do we want to have? ~together. And I say that realizing not all of us in the world get a long-well. ~ WE have a monumental job on our hands as a species and there is no better time to get started than ~ now. Carry on ~

[RunningDeer]

Hello Bill Ryan,

Powerful recall. High praises on your breakthrough! Gifted speaker. Thank you for doing what you came here to do. My life has been truly impacted.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[Carmody]

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A better photo! Note the orbs in the picture.

The presentation I gave might be valuable... audio and video will be up on YouTube in the next few days.

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_Cuenca_orbs_6_Feb_2012.jpg

"ORB" pictures are meaningless without a reproduction of ALL the technical details. The way people dive into this phenomenon so fantastically without ANY technical reference points to work with is silly.

Digital photography is still in it's infancy. Silver halide/chemical photography (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_halide ), by comparison, would still be at the Daguerreotype stage:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daguerreotype


All that has evolved with digital so far ( apart from a switch to CMOS ) is the pixel density of the recorder of the image.

CARMODY made a great point a few months back, about this. It's possible that the pixel density is now so "nano" that something else is beginning to manifest with the recorded image. Why the nano nature of our own eye retina doesn't record it also is a mystery to me but there are always strange new twists to technological developments.

It's concievable that there is a quantum "breakthrough" occuring at certain pixel densities.

It's vital we always have a full record of the technical details of all these so called "orb" pictures so that the technical details can be cross checked and narrowed down to, possibly, something that can explain this phenomenon.

Otherwise, wishfull thinkers will kick off a bogus revolution in photographic science that will only serve to muddy the waters further on down the line.

Each photo has it's own "meta data". That would be a good start. Software that will access the meta data and show it to us is freely available from open source developers. The make and model of the camera and year of manufacture would also help. Certain photo sensor manufacturers provide certain sensors to certain manufacturers of cameras etc....

this reminds me that i was reading of some high level work from Either MIT or Lawrence livermore, or similar..that we have something akin to photo activated nuclear materials. nano materials that can be light activated. But, we have photo activated materials, in many cases. Photoelectric effect, solar cells, UV curing, and so on.

Now, to capture the 'light' of a given spacial/dimensional issue of some sort, in the 'pop' of a flash. What exactly a flash is is also an interesting subject on it's own. It is the literal generation of a longitudinal wave/distortion in the etheric medium, or backdrop. I believe I spoke on the potentials in the orb thread. Only as hypothesis, of course. What I proposed was a course of investigation as a hypothetical premise, and it may be the correct direction to move in.

[Zor B]

I am guessing then the implants have been removed.....am curious to number....if you do not mind sharing..........was it the Velons ?

[Cilka]

I am guessing then the implants have been removed.....am curious to number....if you do not mind sharing..........was it the Velons ?

Humanity probably did avoid a major catastrophe, but that still leaves us, the human species, behind that EARTH still needs to manage somehow. Most of the humans do not resonate with the consciousness of this planet, and this disrespectful behavior can be easily seen in humans who feel that they can take as much out of planet earth as they wish, besides they feel nothing for her and it is their right to take what has belonged to them always in the first place. Earth is not stupid, it is a living consciousness and it is hurting from all the abuse the humans have inflicted upon her. So, I guess only time will tell what will happen to the rest of us here. It is obvious that humanity is not changing for the better, just take a look and see. The reality of what is speaks for itself.

I think that we are in for a very interesting ride. Catastrophic events are off the table now, but we still have to find a way to prove to planet earth that we are worth her time and efforts.

Zor B, Velons are the ones who implant the microchips. Why would they want to remove an implant from a being they are trying to take complete control of?

[Zor B]

Was asking if the Velons were the culprits behind the implants........not if they did the removal......apologize for not being clearer in the query .

[Zor B]

Do you think the Velons are capable of being friends with us ?

[Vanir]

Thank you so much Bill for sharing such a personal and wonderful story

[thomasmann]

Hi!

The last time I tried this, It turned out interesting. I know I have to adjust my tone, so I would only like to put down the facts.
I always kept quiet about these things, it didnt take me too long to realize that its unhealthy to disclose myself.
I was attracted to you forum when I was privately researching on the web and found Inelia.
I am different, but Im not like her. I was fascinated by her description of the sorround view that caused her to fall over sometimes. It is possible that we both entered our current bodies in the same way. I also view my body as a machine and I have more control over it than regular people do.
I am legit, and I do not mean any harm to your forum - at least not intentionally. I am not a spy of any sort either. There has been accusations of such at other places, so I am just declaring the obvious.
I have started RS recently and most informations especially regarding my original are consistent.
I am from Mars originally, I believe its called Lahmu (Book of Enki). I was taken there, from another form, but that seems like an old and fuzzy memory.
What I also remembered and found evidence of is a Deluge, that was not only on Earth but it was broad spectrum. Thats when a few of us fled here deliberately.
I believe that I belong to the race responsible for the Mayan landing platforms etc.
This was the short introduction. By the way my primary job here is advancing space transport, basically long distance travel availability. I have around 16 years to do so. The other one is to find others and wake them up.
In Europe there is record of at least 2000 of us in passive mode - that means that we live regular lives and do not gather information or work on any projects.
So far in central Europe I found two people, who are here like me, but from different places. One kind I call angels, but not in a Biblical sense. The other one is more like me, but very different in mind.
I mentioned this because I found out something relevant and managed to prove it.
Simple human beings - not all - can also be "activated". It seems that we share the missing link in our genetic makeup. So there is 2000 of us and a lot more of You.
I see that you have already discovered yourselves. That was unexpected. I think - THIS IS AN OPINION - that neither of us can do this alone. Its really fuzzy on the matter of globally what happened to us, and how Mars became the way it is now. Also I have no clear picture of what we are up against, but we need mutual support to be able to achieve something.
My main idea is to expose myself, and see your reaction, and how you accept this info. If this gains your trust any more, I am going to be in Southern UK in less than four month and if you like, you can put a face and a voice and a body behind this text.
Sorry if some things dont make sense, I havent got much sleep lately.
Awaiting your reactions in hope of making new friends.

P.S.: I dont know what is your expectation from ETs. I managed to close a tap accidentally once with my mind, and sometimes I can see small future events. This had saved my life several times and Im only 18 here. But I cant fly, aint got a spaceship - yet. So Im like you - mostly.

[Billy]

Hey Bill, Would you please fill us in about what George Green says about WWIII? This could devastate the whole Northern Hemisphere. Thanks

Very briefly -- George believes that the next 90 days are crucial.

60 days down 30 to go. Happy easter everyone :hug:

[Daozen]

Ain't gonna be no WWIII, it's been called off due to lack of interest...

Thx,

Mgt

[emissary]

Beautiful
That is exactly it. It's YOU!
It is us the individuals as we think ourselves to be. This is why what is beginning to happen in terms of awakening is so important. Anyway you look at it, what will happen for humanity can only happen if the individuals of the collective can fundamentally understand that they indeed have to do serious self work. only then can any semblance of collective change occur.

I too have a message to the people. Great change is coming and those who don't believe it now will have to when it becomes a stronger presence in their reality. This change is something humanity has to prepare itself for. Those who can do the self work needed at least. Many greater realities have and are about to open up to the consciousness of people. This is what you have to be prepared for. Your consciousness needs upgrading, humanity has been at more or less the same consciousness level for far too long. Now the cosmos is bringing a climate that will demand us to evolve ourselves or the emerging realities will not be able to be integrated by our incompatible faculties.

[Senso]

thank you for sharing this.......i wish my son would read this.... many thanks

[wynderer]

Hi Bill -- thank you for your very open post -- i am sorry for what you suffered as a child -- the teasing -- but your sure showed them! now one of the best 'alternative' interviewers -- speaking articulately & fluently

[ btw, i wrote a story about 'Life on Mars' , complete w/illustrations, in the '50s when i was around 8 yrs old -- sent it to 'Jack & Jill' magazine -- it was rejected, but they sent me a bunch of Disney stuff to soften the blow of rejection]

i have read & re-read your account of being taken w/some hundreds of others where you were subjected to the trauma of seeing -- in virtual reality, i think you are saying? -- vivid movies of millions of Humans suffering & dying in horrible ways

pls understand that i am offering the following thoughts in the spirit of true enquiry, in the search for Truth that is here on Avalon

OK -- this a possible scenario that comes to mind for me -- our controllers, w/their excellent ability to assume any form they want in 4D -- they could easily have convinced you all that they were caring ETs -- the you at that time did not know all that you [ & the world in general] now know about ETs/mind control/ etc

so they basically traumatize a whole bunch of Alpha males & females & send you back into the world w/PTSD & no follow-up counseling -- obviously you are a very sensitive person -- probably all the others were too -- implanting in you the message, 'You must wake them up!' -- knowing full well , since the BigPharma/BigAg/MegaCorps plans were already drawn up ['46], & , having controlled Humans for millennia, they knew it would be easy to get them to pay for poisoned food & toxic meds , cell phones so they could sneak in the mind control towers, etc -- they knew full well that you all were being sent out on a no-win mission

so -- our controllers scan the planet as part of the coming big push to REALLY get the NWO established here -- back in '46 when they were really stepping up the pace -- Operation Paperclip etc -- they identify some who they know will be leaders in some way -- likely a whole lot of you in the UFO/ET/new physics areas --they pick you all up & subject you to trauma

including the on-going trauma of being shown what i believe IS the future -- & then watching how you all deal w/that thru your life -- i mean, how long is it going to be again before they have a chance like this? a unique combination of Human, ET, & naturally occurring galactic forces destroying a planet -- a chance to gather & store some good data!

wyn








Hi, Folks:

Recently I remembered a highly traumatic event in my last lifetime. Sit tight, dear friends, and listen to this.

I have a clear recall of many lifetimes (some of which go way back) -- including a great deal of information about my lives from 1850-1901 and 1902-1924.

But the last lifetime (1925-1952) has always been obscured. When that happens -- i.e. everything is accessible and available except a certain period -- it always means that there's something sitting there that one just cannot bear to look at.

I've been researching my own past lives for 27 years. And finally, two weeks ago, I accessed the lifetime before this one. What I could not bear to look at was this.

I was abducted, by caring, concerned and benevolent ETs, in September 1946. This was very early for such things: a full 9 months before Roswell. I was abducted with hundreds of other selected individuals. And we were all shown -- graphically, experientially and unforgettably -- a possible future Earth.

I came apart when this repressed memory returned. We humans were together shown a very terrible future. We saw burning cities: billions of people dying in agony. The entire Northern Hemisphere was laid to waste. Plants, animals, forests, seas, men, women, children – all destroyed. South America and Central to Southern Africa were spared. The nightmare vision was apocalyptic and as dreadful as one could imagine.

We had all been chosen as messengers. Returned to Earth, with full recall of this awful experience, I was driven like a soul possessed to communicate what had happened -- and what I had been shown. But this was 1946: no-one would listen.

At that time I was in my very early 20s: an earnest, intelligent and sensitive young man. I was utterly ill-equipped to deal with this. I tried to talk to everyone I knew: friends, family, my fiancée. I was shunned, rejected, laughed at: mocked first with teasing laughter, then concern, then with fear, anger and rejection. I did all I could to tell the truth. And I tell you here: knowing the future – or believing that one knows it – is not a gift, it is a curse.

I don’t know what happened after that, except that I was reduced to a degree of inner torture that I would never wish on another soul. I reincarnated as Bill Ryan in February 1953, so I didn’t live for many years after my fateful experience. I died before I was 30, and I do not yet know how that life ended.

So: enter Bill Ryan. Many of you will not know that when I was a child I had a speech impediment. It was quite serious: I could barely speak. It was basically a heavy stammer. My throat chakra had a huge, tangled, energetic blockage.

I was mercilessly teased as a child, and at school lived in permanent anxiety of being asked questions by the teacher. I was very bright, and took refuge in academia and sport: I excelled at both. But I was an unhappy child. However, as time passed, I gradually overcame my handicap to become a teacher, a team-building specialist, and finally a researcher, an investigator, and a motivational and inspirational speaker with tens of millions of views on YouTube.

Just as in all my years of personal growth I never accessed my previous lifetime, I never had any clue why I was born with a stammer. And now, suddenly, last week, it all became clear. I collapsed in huge sobs in the arms of a dear friend as the avalanching realization came that the reason I could not speak as a child was because I ended my previous lifetime not being able to speak of my terrible experience. And just as I was teased and rejected by my friends at the end of my last lifetime, I was teased and rejected by my friends as a reborn child for the same reasons: simply because I was trying to say something.

The catharsis was total. After several days, last week, I came to a state of peace… in which I now write. So much was explained: my driven interest in esoteric subjects as a child (see my Avalon Interview Part 1, in which I tell the amusing story about how I wanted to write a story about ghosts and flying saucers as a child of 8), my commitment to be a teacher, my commitment to peace and harmony on Planet Earth, my teenage interest in scientific subjects such as quantum theory, relativity and astrophysics, and finally Projects Camelot and Avalon, dedicated to raising awareness and – guess what – changing the timeline of our collective experience. I imagine that few of us really know the reasons we make what we believe are free choices in our lives.

So: here we are. And I need to draw some important words of conclusion.

I do [I]NOT believe that this future will happen, that hundreds of us were shown in 1946. [I]I think we’ve avoided it.

What we were shown was a warning: not a prediction. As Inelia described in her May 2011 Avalon interview, we’re doing really well; and as Bill Wood stated in Kerry’s Camelot interview, we may only be a handful of Grandmaster chess moves away from an unavoidable checkmate of the black pieces.

The reasons why the benevolent ETs – themselves superhumanly intelligent and psychically gifted, and also deeply caring in a kind of ultimately parental way – have been focusing so intently on Planet Earth is simply to assist us in changing our own timeline. But we ourselves have to do that: they cannot.

The ET presence is simply about that. They have been our teachers: guiding, cajoling and motivating us, in extraordinarily clever and subtle ways (including many of them incarnating as humans), to take responsibility and make free choices that will result in a new collective agreement and therefore in a new collectively experienced reality.

The entire complexity is further entangled by certain ET races that have a vested interest in disaster and/or enslavement, not liberation – and by other races visiting us from the future who are intent on avoiding or changing timelines that from their own point of view have actually already occurred… the ultimate mindbender of all.

The reason I’m posting this story is to inspire and encourage others to come forward. Others have had a similar experience:




-- Miriam Delicado
http://projectcamelot.org/miriam_delicado.html

-- Jim Sparks
http://projectcamelot.org/jim_sparks.html

-- and this guy, “William” – who told Linda Howe a staggering and important story about the possible Third World War:
http://projectcamelot.org/index_archive_1.html -- and then scroll down to 16 July 2008.
It seems to have been a theme. Tens of thousands of us (maybe even millions) may have been warned in this way. It seems to have been at least part of the reason why abductions occur. Countless people will also have had this experience (as Jim Sparks explains) – and have not recalled it.

Repeat:

Maybe the ETs have been successful in this mission of theirs. I do NOT believe that this future will happen. I think we’ve avoided it.

What we were shown was a warning: not a prediction. As Inelia described in her May 2011 Avalon interview, we’re really doing pretty well; and as Bill Wood stated in Kerry’s recent Camelot interview, it’s possible that we may be only a handful of Grandmaster chess moves away from an inevitable checkmate of the black pieces.

When I was in Tibet, the community I was part of was united by one theme and one mission: to honor, protect, and work ceaselessly for the freedom of all living beings. In my work today, I try to echo that. It's a lesson not only for me, but for us all.

[GoodETxSG]

Bill, thank you. Your experience is Your experience. No one else can interpret it for you or redefine your experience as you were there.

Being empathic and having your own psychic awareness you were able to bring those memories to the surface. This kind of think always happens for a reason and at the right time. There are no accidents or coincidences.

I look forward to you sharing more of your experiences in the future.

[wynderer]

i have continued to puzzle over this experience of Bill's --

i have a very good BS meter, & it stays completely immobile re this

& if Bill says that these were kind & caring ETs -- w/90 - 95 % of accounts of meeting 'benevolent' ETs, my meter goes wild -- again, not w/this from Bill --

& actions speak louder than words -- Bill is doing something very much in line w/what Good Guy ETs would want, imo -- getting the truth out, including some very unpleasant parts of it

also i remember him saying that both he & Kerry were getting psychic attacks -- a good indication that someone is doing something threatening to the NWO -- do you get the EMF pulses too, Bill?

i finally had one of those FLASH moments when i understood how loving ETs could have subjected Bill & the others to the trauma of being shown the scenes of a now very likely future for almost all of Humanity

& WHY they did this

all the 'living-in-my-own-little-love-bubble' posts -- the 'it's all good-ers' -- here on Avalon , on every other forum i've been on [& left because of], & of course, in my daily life --

it finally clicked for me -- the trauma that Bill & the others went thru, carrying over into this lifetime for Bill --
this is the trauma that Humans collectively have to experience in order to wake up --

i'm always trying hard to understand Humans , & it has become obvious to me that most of you go into instant denial mode when confronted w/truths such as the proof of Human mutilations

it has also become obvious to me that when you turn away -- more likely run away from even looking at the pain & suffering of so many many other beings on this planet -- when you cut that off -- compassion -- you cut yourselves off from your hearts & from any possibility of real spiritual growth

i also consider this -- one of the ways the MK Ultra & other supersoldiers are created is by traumatizing the little children -- this helps to heighten psychic skills as part of the body's survival mechanism

a mass Human awakening to the real horrors going on at this time on planet Earth, & in the future for most of you -- not the bankers taking away your precious money -- think Dulce -- such a traumatic mass Human awakening would tear open your cold hearts -- would indeed generate enough true spiritual energy to carry a whole lot more of you to the 5D Earth

[charlesgilbertwright]

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[Aurelius]

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[Chester]

Hey Bill, Would you please fill us in about what George Green says about WWIII? This could devastate the whole Northern Hemisphere. Thanks

Very briefly -- George believes that the next 90 days are crucial.

from The Crypto Terrestrials – Mac Tonnies – Page 32

“Physicist David Deutsch, for instance, advocates the still controversial Many Worlds Interpretation (MWI) of quantum theory, in which our universe bifurcates each time a sub atomic event’s wave function “collapses.” Taken to its dizzying extreme, the MWI allows for a near endless pageant of universes to encompass all conceivable outcomes.”

well past the 90 days

be in the present that creates the future of your own choice

[asalantu]

Dear Bill

Again, many thanks about your thread events witnessed related.

Now, I've a complementary warning related to concepts exhibited at there.

Althought in your vision, ET's do not show Southern Hemisphere, you cannot conclude it is free of sequels. Done burning activity at Nothern Hemisphere, pollution derived from that will give enough smoke in order to trigger a Nuclear Winter event.

Such a phenomenon (Nuclear Winter) was studied by Carl Sagan and Richard Turco and study results offered to public opinion under the form of a book: Nuclear Winter.

Effects on Alimentary Chain will be catastrophic. A general situation characterized by the "Alive ones will envy dead persons" saying, mainly done famine, radiation issues and mutative change of virus.

Sincerely,
Ángel

[deridan]

1925 & u would have been 87 in 2012.
i think about wynderes consternation of whether these were infact good ets or not,...
that not everything is planned to a minuscule second,...
that pushing out as they did, they had no idea of what the system would d o to the experiencers.
{great generation that was those of '25}

[The Mad spirtualist]

I have never experienced past life connections or had any experience with ETs that I can recall. What I have had with me All my life is this faint distant feeling of dread! I feel the urge to kill my self often feeling like there is no other way out. I feel like there is some curse on me that prevents me from being successful at ANYTHING. Friends and family have seen me try many things to improve my life but it all ends up flat.

I did a lot of research since 2005 on just about every subject that pertains to becoming more conscious and aware. I spend time here learning and sharing. The number of books I have read and things online I have read should be equivalent to a PHD! Yet I cannot seem to move my life into the positive. I was born from a woman who wanted to kill herself when I was in her womb then given up for adoption into a family that was very negative, emotional and mentally stifling.

I have been wanting to investigate past lives so I can get a better understanding. I even waited over a year to get an appointment with Dolores Canon and was prevented from making the appointment. Every time I attempt to get help something happens that prevents me from getting it! It is like clock work! I don't know what to do to change things. I have tried several things. I am at a point in my life where it seems it could go very bad or very good.

I have been financially devastated all my life struggling to make ends meet especially now it is at it's worse. I want is to understand why this is happening to me. Was I an asshole in my last life? Do I know something deep inside me that if it got out THEY would not fair well? You might know who THEY are or not. THEY in my book are the dark 4th density beings who have been controlling this planet for 300,000 years. THEY are about to lose their feeding ground and THEY are not happy about it.

Bill what you saw was the future of THEM winning the battle. All future is possible! No prediction is solid but is made in the present from the dominating vibration! As our dear friend David Icke said the only way to conquer THEM is through vibration. They can only live and feed off us if there is a vibration match. If we raise our vibration they can no longer affect us. Problem is with so many humans vibrating at such low frequencies I don't see how a positive future will arise.

The only thing that gives me faith that it will be a positive future is that we do have help from the benevolent ET's, angels and guides and they are confident in a positive future BUT they still say it is up to us which makes me feel VERY unconfident.

I am going to a past life regression session next week for the first time. He is local and has 25 years experience. I am hoping to get some answers that will put me on a positive path. I feel my potential at the door ready to go but the door a 3 feet think with 100 locks on it.

What gives me comfort is knowing this is ONLY an experience! It is only one life out millions that have and will be lived. I am an eternal spirit.

[Knowrainknowrainbows!]

Hi there fellow experiencer. I have sent a PM to you. Hope to hear from you soon.
KRKR

[geofffxdwg]

Bill you are one of the best speakers I have ever heard and listened to.You have a way with words that I comprehend 100%.Thank you Bill Ryan.:ear:I want to explain your ability in communications goes much deeper than your way with words.I'm sure you already know this but for those that don't let me explain the way I see it.You said how difficult it was for you as a child.The teacher humiliating you in front of others.I have watch some Camelot interviews where both speakers were getting frustrated and things were getting tense, even for me hoping to get a question answered before it was ignored completely.You very calmly intervened like you sensed what we the viewers were thinking and you were filming live.We were not going to see the interview for months later.Perhaps you learned how to sense this and comprehend this zone while very young and trying to stay out of the teachers spotlight.At the same time you had both speakers relax for a moment and the interview went on very well.When I say you are one of the best speakers I mean there are only a handful in the whole world.Bill Kurtis,Morgan Freeman and a few others.They are reading or have memorized a script.My father was an English teacher who earned a PHD from both Stanford and Berkeley.I was Born in Berkeley when my father was teaching logic and other graduate studies in communications.He had me correcting his students papers when I was only 7 years old so I know exactly what you mean about being cursed.I remember every single day of my entire life.I have no past life recollection.Reading books on hypnosis was nothing special.I did that long before your friend David Wilcock. I don't agree with him on Hypnosis being an induction of a state of consciousness in which a person apparently loses the power of voluntary action and is highly responsive to suggestion or direction.If you don't want to do something you won't even under hypnosis.On the other hand you can be tricked such as the mass hypnosis always going on in world.My point is you can be under hypnosis and know that you are and be aware of everything going on around you.Like meditating.Take care Bill Ryan....Sincerely...Geoff:chess:

[Bill Ryan]

:bump:

I wanted to bump this thread, in an interesting way.

From http://projectcamelot.org/index_archive_1.html: (http://projectcamelot.org/index_archive_1.html)




16 July 2008

• An extremely important report has recently been published by Linda Howe on her excellent Earthfiles (http://www.earthfiles.com/) website. The report is available here (http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1441&category=Real%20X-Files), is copyrighted, and is available to her subscribers. We present a summary of it below in our own words.



The report is part 5 in a series describing the dramatic experiences of a contactee named William, from Arizona. The contacts in question occurred in 1969, when William was 16. In parts 1-4 William, interviewed by Linda, describes his various encounters, which in themselves are fascinating and seem very credible. Part 5 is different. Here, the human-looking ETs (apparently from Tau Ceti) used a "black cube" to show him a probable future earth timeline. This was shown vividly to William, who was able to recall the details to this day and was fully conscious during his contact experiences.



He was shown the first Iraq War ('Operation Desert Storm'), and recalls a given date of December 1991. The actual start of the offensive, however, was January 1991. Linda and William discuss whether the forecast date might have been December 1990, but William thinks he was told 1991. This detail is important.



He was then shown the second Gulf War, again in accurate detail, all of which transpired as he was shown. He does not recall a given date for this.



Then he was shown the third war, which would start 18 years after the first. That places it in 2009 (or possibly, 2008). William thinks the date was springtime 2009, but is not certain.



However, he does recall the vivid details, which include a nuclear exchange between Iran and Israel, and the US becoming involved. He saw great destruction and subsequent economic collapse. Following this, he was shown large explosions in a number of American cities which were not the result of incoming missiles. The result was martial law in a number of areas in the US and (in some places) scenes and situations similar to those in the TV series Jericho.



In Part 6, the continuation of the report, William describes the effect of a pandemic flu-like virus and large areas becoming depopulated while other apparently safer or isolated areas were comparatively unaffected. The longer-term future timeline after that showed a gradual recovery and renaissance as humanity regrouped... having (apparently) learned its lesson.



The above is our paraphrase from memory. We have been careful not to infringe Linda's copyright, which we wish to honor. We encourage you to read the original reports, which contain more detail. We wrote to Linda, whom we know and whose work we greatly respect, that the material presented was so exceptional and so potentially important that we would be derelict in our duty if we did not draw attention to it.



Important note: the ETs told William that this timeline was only probable (in 1969) and was not fixed. He was told it could be changed, and whether these events transpired or not was entirely up to humanity. Those familiar with our important page here (http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html) (on Timeline 1, variant 83, as reported by Dan Burisch) will immediately see the similarities in the issues raised.



We at Project Camelot entirely support and emphasize as strongly as possible that possible and probable futures are NOT fixed: the future we want, and will experience, is co-created by us all. What will transpire is entirely up to humanity, which includes each and every one of us.


Note by Bill, 31 Aug 2013:

As we know, this event has not [yet] happened. This suggests that we are capable of influencing/changing possible or probable events that somehow have an independent existence of ourselves in the future. Like having taken a fork in the road, we're gradually moving father and farther from where the highway we were on would have taken us.

Meanwhile, it can be assumed that those who want such a war to take place are trying their best to wrest control and bring us all back to the 'original' timeline. I often find myself wondering if this is the real nature of the struggle behind the scenes for the future of the human race.

[chocolate]

All of what has been described by Bill in the post above coincides with the prediction of Nostradamus and Vanga for the period of time that is right now.
As many interested in the area of akashic records, timelines etc., is well known that nothing is fixed in stone and everything changes (like the river that is never the same).
That is one reason I don't believe in prophetic reading about wars, viruses, upheaval, etc. I do believe and know from experience that we are creating our reality right now. Or as jim would put it, we have come back to fix the timeline :).
And Bill, I think you are right- that is part of the game. To know what is good you need to have its opposite. The other parties are doing their part of the story to underline for us what we really do want to happen. My opinion only.

[OnyxKnight]

The report is part 5 in a series describing the dramatic experiences of a contactee named William, from Arizona. The contacts in question occurred in 1969, when William was 16. In parts 1-4 William, interviewed by Linda, describes his various encounters, which in themselves are fascinating and seem very credible. Part 5 is different. Here, the human-looking ETs (apparently from Tau Ceti) used a "black cube" to show him a probable future earth timeline. This was shown vividly to William, who was able to recall the details to this day and was fully conscious during his contact experiences.

I can confirm this. They do use cubicle or sphere-like devices to project hologram-like pictures of recorded events. The events are space-time-dependent (when the recording was made, and where). I was also told that this is not their own technology, but it is borrowed, from another race of human-like beings that come from a planet in the white dwarf portion of the Procyon system.

Thank you for sharing.

[jiminii]

this is why I was sent from the future. We knew LRH was in jeopardy. Somewhere else in the future the reptilians came back to put sleeper children in the Church of Scientology. So I was sent to warn him. But he knew what it was about but he didn't know about the upper powers. I had to demonstrate them so that is why they recruited me so many times. Every time I come in everything goes up. That is why he helped me when I more or less showed him I could spot all the CI (counter intentions) in the space. Every day I would spot 2 to 4 who were putting out CI. I decided to hit them and every day the exact number I spotted the night before were RPFed (put in rehabilitation project force).

I had all these abilities but I found it impossible to work with the group. The reason is the same reason I have problems with some people on this forum.

These are OT's and they have gone into past track and seen a lot. But They CAN"T HAVE SOMEONE COME IN AND CONTROL THEIR GI AND THEIR STATISTICS. (gross income).

it knocks their anchor points out It is beyond their ability to HAVE. It puts them into a position of NO CAUSE because someone else is doing it for them. I actually RAN THE BODIES. especially on the week I postulated highest evers cross the boards. Everyone went into this not stop motion like a huge machine all intertwined and I was running all of it.

So I had to leave so they could become cause again.

Ok so then LRH setup David Miscavage to take over the COS and then make sure no one got into the higher OT levels while he would prepare LRH's body in a specific way so that it could escape the force fields around the planet so he could go up to galactic central and have this area declared FREE ZONE.
No interference from other star systems and they are up there guarding the place in present time.

So that is why when the call came (spiritually), I was suppose to release this data. But I couldn't write a book. The world could tear it and me apart so I had to come to Bill Ryan's website.

That is what happened when the auditor dated me entering this body from the future. that is why I could hardly balance the body after that.

I found bill's Project Avalone and Inelia about 20 minutes after all the light hit me and settled down. But somehow we couldn't connect then. I needed some more pieces with my boss having a stroke so he could give me a message from the future about the difference between a spirit being and the viewpoint he extends into this universe to operate from.

then alex collier and the future. That opened it all up. And this just comes. It is not like I was hunting all over the internet looking for this. I would sometimes get on the internet and it would just come in almost by accident, (but we know there are no accidents in this universe).

so this is what I know. The people I can work with are the other star people like me, (they are all probably natural clears meaning they are natural OT's operating thetans, the being operating outside the body).

they are on this website too and slowing coming out of hiding as they wake up. These have no 100 quadtrillions of years of time tracks full of junk.
they are new out of the static. The only aberration is the time track of the GE that grows this body and all the other bodies or timelines they have.

So this is what we got. WE ARE IT as far as I know. So we have been holding it subconsciously or not for these last few years from our guides in the future.

I only know how I opened up all my perceptions. I don't know if it is the same way another would open up theirs. I know two things that work.

Getting your space out there the size of the galaxy or more and deciding to KNOW WHAT IS IN THAT SPACE ... for the rest it will ALL COME TO YOU USING THOSE TWO STABLE DATUMS.

jim

[Rocky_Shorz]

innocence is lost in knowing my friend...

Welcome to Avalon, where We Am...

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Note by Bill, 31 Aug 2013:[/B][/I]

As we know, this event has not [yet] happened. This suggests that we are capable of influencing/changing possible or probable events that somehow have an independent existence of ourselves in the future. Like having taken a fork in the road, we're gradually moving father and farther from where the highway we were on would have taken us.

Meanwhile, it can be assumed that those who want such a war to take place are trying their best to wrest control and bring us all back to the 'original' timeline. I often find myself wondering if this is the real nature of the struggle behind the scenes for the future of the human race.


I think it is Bill, in fact I'm sure it is. I too have seen similar visions of war, and impressions of future war that I felt sure (mostly as a child) was going to happen. For me much of it was centred around the year 1995. But as you say, humanity's endeavour to steer a different course, away from disaster, has been successful. However TPTB are still fighting aren't they, still desperately trying to bring about the vast depopulation of the human race – their original and long-sought goal – and are failing. They have triggered various events, tried and tried again to achieve this objective, and it has not worked.

Also never forget our friends in higher places... Even though our destiny is our own responsibility, they play a big part in it, and always have. They are bound by law not to directly interfere with us or our path, except only if we reach a stage where we could bring about the wanton destruction of the planet. I am firmly convinced that, in the final need, they WILL (and probably already have) stepped in (even in only subtle ways) and stopped firstly nuclear violence, which would severely harm this planet and affect others in other realms, and secondly pandemics from taking hold that could kill millions, even billions.

As you say, 'time', future time, can be changed. There are milestones along the way, like watershed events that take the shape of a profound choice. That is where timelines diverge. It’s the choices we make that create the futures we experience.

If you went back in time to the 90's for example, and gave someone a vision of 9/11 happening, thus creating awareness of the event before it happened, that will change the event from happening in the same way, or at the same time that we, on this timeline, remember it. So I have no doubt that in some other reality nuclear war has happened, did happen. But the warning that we received steered us away from it (on this timeline), kind of like dampening the causal energy that would lead to the eventual (devastating) effect.

For now I think we are over the worst danger, but uncomfortable times still lie ahead.

But the ultimate future, from this time forward, really is 'the undiscovered country'. It could be anything we want it to be. First, however, the TPTB that still remain, clinging on to that power and their crazy delusions, need to be exposed completely, called out, and held firmly to account.

[chocolate]

Yes, Star Mariner, I also have vision of the future that are really really dark. But I confront them and move them aside. I suggest we stop staring at the vision of wars and crimes, cabals, illnesses, and we start seeing more of the beauty of this world, even when it is just a pack of flowers by the curb.
I have had enough of darkness already, can't bear it anymore.

[Smell the Roses]

Thanks for this thread, Bill Ryan! It's so important for those of us who experience the world in a non-traditional way to bond together and share experiences.

I was born in 1970 and like others have stated here, I started out with unusual feelings of doom. When other kids were playing some kind of ball game on the playground (Four Square), my friend and I were the only ones not playing. We were making up elaborate fantasy role-playing games about being aliens landing on the planet. Then we would make observations of the natives there. This was an easy role for me to play. Being an actual native was not an easy role for me.

I had a definite physical experience with physical scars and missing time when I was about 8. Then I remember many things always being in the context of an Armageddon scenario. For example, when I liked a boy, I would imagine all the people around us being destroyed by natural disaster and the two of us being left to repopulate the world! Eventually I realized that this was not the typical fantasy for other young girls!

But in the late eighties when I started educating myself on a more intellectual level, I came to think that we didn't have a lot of time left. I had a lot of dreams where I was doing things like escaping in a canoe with my mother when the Great Lakes flooded, etc. Then when the Gulf War, Waco, and Ruby Ridge happened, I figured it was just a matter of time. The government was openly hostile now, so how much more would people put up with? (quite a bit, apparently). We dropped out of society at that point.

We were then scammed by an ET channel (long story). When we got out of there, I pretty much decided I must have been wrong my entire life. The world would just go on the way it was, and suffering must just be the way of it. I went on that way for about a decade.

It's only been three years or so since I have realized that my original ideas were correct, but I didn't need any validation from anywhere else to know this. I don't know why it took me so long to realize that it was OK fo me to see the world totally different than "the norm", and that I could have a specific function which would explain this.

Anyway, I do believe we averted something much worse in the early nineties. Then perhaps again in 2001 and again last year. It's been a process, but those time periods seemed like milestones. Then many of us may have interpreted ourselves as being wrong at those times in thinking that things would soon come to a head. Those who are just looking at the "news" or the "alternative news" would probably just see a steady march toward tyranny. But over the past year, this has been the first time I have actually believed that my children could have a beautiful future and not just survive. :cool:

[charlesgilbertwright]

Hey Merry Mom, good post. today, thanks. my oldest son Michael was born on Feb 14, 1970. yesterday he had a hip replacement. life sure does move on. i agree with you, we are moving into another dimension soon, i hope. Cheers, Charles

[mojo]

Hi Bill,
Found this video related to your abduction experience on the mountain and did not see it posted anywhere. Have you experienced any more activity ET or sightings related living in Ecuador?



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Not sure about the title the uploader used & only sharing for content and historical perspective.

[Bill Ryan]

Hi Bill,
Found this video related to your abduction experience on the mountain and did not see it posted anywhere. Have you experienced any more activity ET or sightings related living in Ecuador?



This very beautiful, high-altitude, very remote area (11,500 feet, with only a few dirt roads and very sparse habitation) is about an hour away from where I am. The indigenous locals see craft all the time, and call them 'brujitas', which means 'little witches'. One of my projects is to camp out up there sometime on a clear night and see what I can see. (If I don't come back, I will have gone to a better place!)

:)

http://projectavalon.net/Ecuador_Andes_Panorama.jpg

[eric1]

Thanks for your post, Bill. I have to say that I am very concerned about the Fukashima situation. Unless there is benevolent ET intervention with respect to that, I don't see how the Northern Hemisphere will be habitable in the long term. There was a big coverup with Chernobyl as well. Given this, I do believe the southern Hemisphere will be preferable although if a global nuclear war ensues, there will no doubt be problems no matter where one is. Also climate issues will be felt worldwide. The Henoch Prophecies(Billy Meier) seems to correlate with much of what you were shown. Given all this, I concur with you that nothing is written in stone, although at this late date, there is still indeed some deep cause for concern.

[eric1]

I generally agree that people should strive to stay in the positive. At the same token, there is a condition called Ostrich Syndrome which seemingly afflicts many these days---basically, let's not deal with the negative and it will simply go away on its own. People DO have to help themselves as much as they can---especially if they hope to have greater benevolent ET intervention---that's my belief.



Yes, Star Mariner, I also have vision of the future that are really really dark. But I confront them and move them aside. I suggest we stop staring at the vision of wars and crimes, cabals, illnesses, and we start seeing more of the beauty of this world, even when it is just a pack of flowers by the curb.
I have had enough of darkness already, can't bear it anymore.

[Redstar Kachina]

..........

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Bill Ryan, I wanted you to know that I was reading page 1 of this thread, lost the page, then found it again;
your story is very touching and almost frightening. The idea that past lives could render us such great obstacles in present life --

But I believe it too, at least sometimes. I've got a book about eastern meditation that mentions something about ancient European families having some bad karma.
This cycle has obviously perpetuated itself or our present would not be so tangled and confused.

I think that there is a lot we don't know about the world, and people should really try listening to some of the things you are saying here.

Carl Jung believed in past lives, didn't he? Someone very important was born within 3 weeks of his death. I don't want to say who it was, but to me that cemented the idea that people could indeed reincarnate, especially if they died with concerns for the world in general.

What's sad is that the person I suspect of having possibly been his reincarnation was murdered in 1997.
She opposed the modern tools of war and tried to help the poor and the weak.

Thank you for working so hard in this Garden.

Love,

Tesla_Wtc_solution

p.s.


“They will come back, come back again,
As long as the red earth rolls.
He never wasted a leaf or a tree.
Do you think he would squander souls?”


― Rudyard Kipling

[Centauri]

Necroooo poooooost.

Since I'm still kinda new here, I am reading like crazy.

THanks to Mr.Ryan for the shared experience! I find it so interesting that I think I will be looking for a good person to help regress me. But that is neither here nor there! The reason I post is because of post number 7 by sygh.

Bet that's looking pretty interesting now, ehhhh?

[Gatita]

I'm trying to read through this entire thread. It's slow going, as I can't currently lift my laptop, which means all my reading and posting is from my phone. Don't ever have shoulder surgery if you can avoid it. Since I haven't gone through the whole thread, yet, I don't know if Yellowstone National Park is mentioned. I think I may have had something happen to me there in 1961. If anyone reads this post, and it rings any bells, please let me know. I have clues to things, but sometimes it's like putting a jigsaw puzzle together with the pieces face down.

Cat

[FraZZleD]

Hi Bill,

In reply to your remark: "The reason I’m posting this story is to inspire and encourage others to come forward. Others have had a similar experience:"

My experience is a bit different from yours. As I remember choosing this life and what goes on prior to being born. I was with a group of 4 spirits. We travel together in each lifetime, to help each other get through our lessons. We're all looking down at all the different lives and we can see the highs and lows of each life. (We don't know how our lives will turn out because of FREE WILL). You see as we come to each cross road (high or low) we have FREE WILL to choose how we will react. The reason for the "veil of forgetfulness". We aren't suppose to remember the highs and lows so we can continue on with our lessons. We choose the lessons we wish to learn. I do remember that if I pass my lesson in this life it would be my last trip here on this planet as a human. I also knew this trip was the most important trip at this particular time. Many spirits were rushing to get here! Something huge was going to happen in this lifetime. Something so amazing that all the spirits wanted to be here to participate. Which is why the world is so populated at this time.

I chose this life and remember one of the other spirits saying "that's such a hard life do you really think you can make it? My reply was I think I can, I have to! The next spirit said don't worry I'll be right behind you I might be a few years later but I'll be there when you need me. And the last of the 3 spirits said "remember your not going to remember a thing when you get there. My reply to her was I've been doing this a long time I think I figured out a way to remember......

At about 4 or 5 years of age my memory of choosing this life came back to me while sitting on the couch. The one thing I could not remember was the lesson I chose or why everyone was rushing to get here.

When I was about 7 years old I asked my mother what a favorite number was. She said it's a number you keep for yourself. It can be your birthday because that's always a happy time. It could be your favorite baseball player like your sister has. I asked my mother what her favorite number was and she said 22 because she was born that year. Then she asked me what my favorite number was going to be and I said 38 really fast. She asked why I chose that number. I said I didn't know why it just popped in my head.

It was a month before my 38th birthday I was getting excited because I was expecting something special, it was my favorite number. But the opposite happened. I totally fell apart in my bed while I was asleep. First it started with my thumb and back, then my right foot, then it moved to my entire right arm and last but not least it hit my entire body by my 38th birthday. I was in total pain from head to toe and when the doctors said from 1 to 10 what would you say your pain level was at? I replied a 15! It was more pain than I could possibly stand. It lasted for 2 long years before it lowered to a level 8 pain then 3 more years till it dropped to a level 5 pain and 3 more years till I found my own cure. It took me a year to learn how to walk again after the level 10 pain.

After going to hell and back with all that pain I was given a reason for the pain. I was allowed the memory of choosing that lesson for my final lesson. (I saved the worst for last) I was rewarded in my sleep when I left my body and was allowed to see heaven. I was given a tour by a very nice female spirit. I saw the different levels, I heard the angels singing in the colosseum. I saw what I considered a hospital but nothing like we have here, where souls recuperate after very hard deaths. The angels watch over those souls till their souls get their strength back. I saw the akashic records or library. I went to the living museum. And much more.......

After this trip I was given a dream for 3 days in a row. I was looking at the aftermath of 911 and I felt the fear of the world. The dream was the same each night till I wrote it down on paper after the 3rd night. I woke up in fear and could not go back to sleep after each dream. I had this dream 6 months before 911 happened. It was such a mess I had no idea what I was looking at till the day of 911 and I saw that jagged building still standing. That was the building I was looking at in my dream.

About a year later after 911 I started to get schooled in my sleep. For 30 days my schooling went on with 12 spiritual beings. If anyone knows of a hypnotist I would love for them to get the information of what I was taught for 30 days. My roommate said while she was getting ready for work that I was talking up a storm in my sleep every morning and every morning I would tell her I was getting taught in my sleep. The very second I would try to write down what I had learned and it would be as clear as day when I woke up. The second my pen hit the paper my memory went away. Why would I be taught something and then not allowed to remember it?

When I told my mother what had happened with not remembering what I was taught her reply to me was when you need it, you'll know it. Why can't I know it now? Does anyone know a hypnotist?

The only think I can relate her remark to was when I was 25 years old my son burned his entire face in an accident. I grabbed him and rushed him in the front yard and kept the hose on him till an ambulance came. They knew I didn't make a lot of money and said it would be cheaper for me to take him to the hospital myself. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. They would not take one step on my property! So I told my mother to bring me the biggest bowl filled with water and I had my son dunk his face all the way to the hospital. After months of treatment the doctors couldn't believe he didn't have one burn scar and they said it was my quick reaction of getting his face wet that helped him not to scar. I had never had any burn training and I don't know why I did what I did. The thought popped in my head that fast and I reacted. So when my mother said you'll know it when you need it. Help to keep me ok with the not knowing, but now it's bothering me again. Which is why I'm replying to Bills post.

There's so much more to what's going on and I have to work tomorrow so I have to sign off.........
Will be back tomorrow.......

[charlesgilbertwright]

Hi Fraz, thanks for posting this.
go to the following page and see if a hypnotherapist is close to you.
http://newtoninstitute.org/locate-a-therapist/
if not get back to me and I will explain a relaxing breathing process that will take you to the memories you want.
well let me explain it now briefly

laying on your back
close your eyes
breathe deep
relax
keep this going several times for a miniute or two or three
then say to yourself:
on the count of three
one, two, three, i will go to that place of memory and see/hear/know/remember what i and my soul need to know now
one
two
three
what do you see/hear/know/remember
this does work
repetition helps too

Cheers,
Charles

[FraZZleD]

Thanks very much Charlesgilbertwright. I found a lady and she's not too far from me. I already sent her an email. I'll keep you up to date on what happens if anything happens at all.

[charlesgilbertwright]

great! yes let me know.

Cheers,
Charles

[Selmir1984]

Thank You....Sharing this with us ....;)

[Caylen]

Hi Frazzled, Thanks for your courage in sharing your story!
I too have had issues about "lost" memory. I fretted so much over not being able to remember events in my life, for instance that other family members could recall (I had suppressed memories due to trauma). I was frustrated that I couldn't participate in sharing family stories so I explored the importance of remembering. Later, I started to receive information at night as you have described, but I also remember teaching people in my sleep! When I awake I only remember that there was certainly a lot of activity going on! Some people have reported sensing me visiting their group meeting!
So - what to make of this? Our 3-D mind is very finite, but our soul-level being is infinite. We get "downloads" of important information that becomes accessible when we need it. Our egos want to know what the heck everything is all about, even though they can't process the concept or material. (Egos can be snoopy buggers!) If too much information surfaces before the ego is ready the person can have a breakdown.
I know from personal experience that if someone approaches me in total sincerity, things come out of my mouth they need to hear. I have no conscious awareness of where these words came from. I finally came to understand, that at least in my case, retrieving memories for the sake of retrieving memories does not serve my purpose for being here. I am at peace knowing that it will surface at the precise moment and circumstance that is appropriate. My job is to get out of my own way by staying in a state of peace.
I hope this is helpful! Good luck!

[FraZZleD]

Thanks for the message Hathor, I never thought about what you said before..... "If too much information surfaces before the ego is ready the person can have a breakdown." Makes sense.

I'll take your information as a second verification to what my mother said, "When you need it, you'll know it."

I'm still going to pursue the hypnosis area. After reading much from Dolores Cannon I know for a fact if they still don't want me to know yet, even my subconscious won't let the info out.
But if there's something I need and they know I'm ready they will inform.

I just have to wait for income tax to do it.

Love the Butterfly picture!

FraZZleD

[SabreToothMom]

Hi Bill,

In reply to your remark: "The reason I’m posting this story is to inspire and encourage others to come forward. Others have had a similar experience:"

My experience is a bit different from yours. As I remember choosing this life and what goes on prior to being born. I was with a group of 4 spirits. We travel together in each lifetime, to help each other get through our lessons. We're all looking down at all the different lives and we can see the highs and lows of each life. (We don't know how our lives will turn out because of FREE WILL). You see as we come to each cross road (high or low) we have FREE WILL to choose how we will react. The reason for the "veil of forgetfulness". We aren't suppose to remember the highs and lows so we can continue on with our lessons. We choose the lessons we wish to learn. I do remember that if I pass my lesson in this life it would be my last trip here on this planet as a human. I also knew this trip was the most important trip at this particular time. Many spirits were rushing to get here! Something huge was going to happen in this lifetime. Something so amazing that all the spirits wanted to be here to participate. Which is why the world is so populated at this time.

I chose this life and remember one of the other spirits saying "that's such a hard life do you really think you can make it? My reply was I think I can, I have to! The next spirit said don't worry I'll be right behind you I might be a few years later but I'll be there when you need me. And the last of the 3 spirits said "remember your not going to remember a thing when you get there. My reply to her was I've been doing this a long time I think I figured out a way to remember......

At about 4 or 5 years of age my memory of choosing this life came back to me while sitting on the couch. The one thing I could not remember was the lesson I chose or why everyone was rushing to get here.

When I was about 7 years old I asked my mother what a favorite number was. She said it's a number you keep for yourself. It can be your birthday because that's always a happy time. It could be your favorite baseball player like your sister has. I asked my mother what her favorite number was and she said 22 because she was born that year. Then she asked me what my favorite number was going to be and I said 38 really fast. She asked why I chose that number. I said I didn't know why it just popped in my head.

It was a month before my 38th birthday I was getting excited because I was expecting something special, it was my favorite number. But the opposite happened. I totally fell apart in my bed while I was asleep. First it started with my thumb and back, then my right foot, then it moved to my entire right arm and last but not least it hit my entire body by my 38th birthday. I was in total pain from head to toe and when the doctors said from 1 to 10 what would you say your pain level was at? I replied a 15! It was more pain than I could possibly stand. It lasted for 2 long years before it lowered to a level 8 pain then 3 more years till it dropped to a level 5 pain and 3 more years till I found my own cure. It took me a year to learn how to walk again after the level 10 pain.

After going to hell and back with all that pain I was given a reason for the pain. I was allowed the memory of choosing that lesson for my final lesson. (I saved the worst for last) I was rewarded in my sleep when I left my body and was allowed to see heaven. I was given a tour by a very nice female spirit. I saw the different levels, I heard the angels singing in the colosseum. I saw what I considered a hospital but nothing like we have here, where souls recuperate after very hard deaths. The angels watch over those souls till their souls get their strength back. I saw the akashic records or library. I went to the living museum. And much more.......

After this trip I was given a dream for 3 days in a row. I was looking at the aftermath of 911 and I felt the fear of the world. The dream was the same each night till I wrote it down on paper after the 3rd night. I woke up in fear and could not go back to sleep after each dream. I had this dream 6 months before 911 happened. It was such a mess I had no idea what I was looking at till the day of 911 and I saw that jagged building still standing. That was the building I was looking at in my dream.

About a year later after 911 I started to get schooled in my sleep. For 30 days my schooling went on with 12 spiritual beings. If anyone knows of a hypnotist I would love for them to get the information of what I was taught for 30 days. My roommate said while she was getting ready for work that I was talking up a storm in my sleep every morning and every morning I would tell her I was getting taught in my sleep. The very second I would try to write down what I had learned and it would be as clear as day when I woke up. The second my pen hit the paper my memory went away. Why would I be taught something and then not allowed to remember it?

When I told my mother what had happened with not remembering what I was taught her reply to me was when you need it, you'll know it. Why can't I know it now? Does anyone know a hypnotist?

The only think I can relate her remark to was when I was 25 years old my son burned his entire face in an accident. I grabbed him and rushed him in the front yard and kept the hose on him till an ambulance came. They knew I didn't make a lot of money and said it would be cheaper for me to take him to the hospital myself. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. They would not take one step on my property! So I told my mother to bring me the biggest bowl filled with water and I had my son dunk his face all the way to the hospital. After months of treatment the doctors couldn't believe he didn't have one burn scar and they said it was my quick reaction of getting his face wet that helped him not to scar. I had never had any burn training and I don't know why I did what I did. The thought popped in my head that fast and I reacted. So when my mother said you'll know it when you need it. Help to keep me ok with the not knowing, but now it's bothering me again. Which is why I'm replying to Bills post.

There's so much more to what's going on and I have to work tomorrow so I have to sign off.........
Will be back tomorrow.......

Thank you for posting this.. did you ever get any help with the hypnotism idea?

I also have pre-birth memories but not as clear as yours, or not as detailed anyway. I wrote about it in my thread that you commented on to direct me to this post - it's here - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?82005-Pre-birth--and-birth--memories.. - if anyone else wants to check it out and maybe has their own experiences to share.

I hope others will also have pre-birth memories.. I have to admit that I was certain that lots of people here would be able to relate to my thread but surprisingly that hasn't been the case. If I'm still unique at Avalon, I suppose I will NEVER fit in ANYWHERE, and should just accept it.. hm. No, I reject that notion - other prebirthers please do share your experiences too!

[amor]

Thank you Bob. I see that you are not a catholic but an eastern master. And to Bill, you are a brave soul striving for us all. Thank you.

[amor]

When the Destroyer passes close enough to Earth, fire burns everything over which it passes. There is a place in northern Syria where charred bones of thousands of humans were found. I believe many desert locations are due to its past passages, such as the Australian desert, the Sinai desert, the Sahara, Arizona about which the Hopi say a swath of fire burned land two hundred miles wide and went on to destroy the old area of Los Angeles where Reptilians had a settlement. I believe the Mexican desert may also have been a victim of its passage.

[jimrich]

From Bill = When I was in Tibet, the community I was part of was united by one theme and one mission: to honor, protect, and work ceaselessly for the freedom of all living beings. In my work today, I try to echo that. It's a lesson not only for me, but for us all. In psychology and spirituality, I was taught what Gandhi spoke of, "Become the change you want to see in the world." so my plan is to become: kind, fair, empathetic, loving, friendly, HONEST, sincere, helpful, willing, harmless, unbigoted, brave, caring and some other things that I'd like to "see" in the world and if the greedy Super Rich Rulers destroy everything in this world, before they leave this planet & go elsewhere, so be it. Meanwhile I am going to live the best and most useful life I can.
Your friend in the fray,
jim :heart:

[Dianamar]

The meek shall inherit what's left of the earth if they do not grow bolder.

[Doug88]

Hi Bill;
It's Doug88. Dolores Cannon was one of my mentor's. I learned past life regression/progression although I didn't practice it that often. But I did create 5 cds with etheric musician Jeremy Sills where we put entire audiences into an altered state and taught them various loving things while in that state. During my investigation into this area I read the books of Dr. Michael Newton - Journey of souls, Destiny of Souls etc. At that time 2005-2006, Michaels had regressed about 3,000 people prior to birth and then interviewed them and they were all saying pretty much the same thing, in terms of how things operate pre-life/incarnation. However, long before Michael was Hellen Wambach . I suspect that Michael may have gotten the idea from Hellen Wambach's research to regress subjects prior to birth. In any event, back in the late 1950's through to approximately 1970 Hellen regressed 10,000 plus subjects prior to birth. Interestingly all were recounting a world of total devastation and desolation. Although Hellen never wrote a book, her research assistant of 25 years, Chet Snow did. I believe it was first printed as "Mass Dreams of the Future," and perhaps later as "Dreams of Mass Destruction."

I got a copy of the book which cost approximately $200.00 with shipping, read it and discarded it because like you, I felt that, that timeline of mass destruction within the collective consciousness had changed or been surpassed. It seemed to me that those images of the world within the collective consciousness was as a result of experiences and images within the collective as a result of world wars one and two and that man-kind was inevitably going to destroy himself and the planet. However, it also seems to me that as the Level of Consciousness of mankind raised/improved, it changed the timeline of events that appeared very certain. For me, raising consciousness is everything! It is powerful and it is part of our function within this sphere of duality because when we raise our individual consciousness we change not only our experience of the world but we also draw up hundred's of thousands of others below the level of Courage (LOC 200 - See Dr. David Hawkins) This is how we become the peace. This is how we become the change we want to see in the world. (Ghandi)

[Noelle]

Hi, Folks:

Recently I remembered a highly traumatic event in my last lifetime. Sit tight, dear friends, and listen to this.

I have a clear recall of many lifetimes (some of which go way back) -- including a great deal of information about my lives from 1850-1901 and 1902-1924.

But the last lifetime (1925-1952) has always been obscured. When that happens -- i.e. everything is accessible and available except a certain period -- it always means that there's something sitting there that one just cannot bear to look at.

I've been researching my own past lives for 27 years. And finally, two weeks ago, I accessed the lifetime before this one. What I could not bear to look at was this.

I was abducted, by caring, concerned and benevolent ETs, in September 1946. This was very early for such things: a full 9 months before Roswell. I was abducted with hundreds of other selected individuals. And we were all shown -- graphically, experientially and unforgettably -- a possible future Earth.

I came apart when this repressed memory returned. We humans were together shown a very terrible future. We saw burning cities: billions of people dying in agony. The entire Northern Hemisphere was laid to waste. Plants, animals, forests, seas, men, women, children – all destroyed. South America and Central to Southern Africa were spared. The nightmare vision was apocalyptic and as dreadful as one could imagine.

We had all been chosen as messengers. Returned to Earth, with full recall of this awful experience, I was driven like a soul possessed to communicate what had happened -- and what I had been shown. But this was 1946: no-one would listen.

At that time I was in my very early 20s: an earnest, intelligent and sensitive young man. I was utterly ill-equipped to deal with this. I tried to talk to everyone I knew: friends, family, my fiancée. I was shunned, rejected, laughed at: mocked first with teasing laughter, then concern, then with fear, anger and rejection. I did all I could to tell the truth. And I tell you here: knowing the future – or believing that one knows it – is not a gift, it is a curse.

I don’t know what happened after that, except that I was reduced to a degree of inner torture that I would never wish on another soul. I reincarnated as Bill Ryan in February 1953, so I didn’t live for many years after my fateful experience. I died before I was 30, and I do not yet know how that life ended.

So: enter Bill Ryan. Many of you will not know that when I was a child I had a speech impediment. It was quite serious: I could barely speak. It was basically a heavy stammer. My throat chakra had a huge, tangled, energetic blockage.

I was mercilessly teased as a child, and at school lived in permanent anxiety of being asked questions by the teacher. I was very bright, and took refuge in academia and sport: I excelled at both. But I was an unhappy child. However, as time passed, I gradually overcame my handicap to become a teacher, a team-building specialist, and finally a researcher, an investigator, and a motivational and inspirational speaker with tens of millions of views on YouTube.

Just as in all my years of personal growth I never accessed my previous lifetime, I never had any clue why I was born with a stammer. And now, suddenly, last week, it all became clear. I collapsed in huge sobs in the arms of a dear friend as the avalanching realization came that the reason I could not speak as a child was because I ended my previous lifetime not being able to speak of my terrible experience. And just as I was teased and rejected by my friends at the end of my last lifetime, I was teased and rejected by my friends as a reborn child for the same reasons: simply because I was trying to say something.

The catharsis was total. After several days, last week, I came to a state of peace… in which I now write. So much was explained: my driven interest in esoteric subjects as a child (see my Avalon Interview Part 1, in which I tell the amusing story about how I wanted to write a story about ghosts and flying saucers as a child of 8), my commitment to be a teacher, my commitment to peace and harmony on Planet Earth, my teenage interest in scientific subjects such as quantum theory, relativity and astrophysics, and finally Projects Camelot and Avalon, dedicated to raising awareness and – guess what – changing the timeline of our collective experience. I imagine that few of us really know the reasons we make what we believe are free choices in our lives.

So: here we are. And I need to draw some important words of conclusion.

I do [I]NOT believe that this future will happen, that hundreds of us were shown in 1946. [I]I think we’ve avoided it.

What we were shown was a warning: not a prediction. As Inelia described in her May 2011 Avalon interview, we’re doing really well; and as Bill Wood stated in Kerry’s Camelot interview, we may only be a handful of Grandmaster chess moves away from an unavoidable checkmate of the black pieces.

The reasons why the benevolent ETs – themselves superhumanly intelligent and psychically gifted, and also deeply caring in a kind of ultimately parental way – have been focusing so intently on Planet Earth is simply to assist us in changing our own timeline. But we ourselves have to do that: they cannot.

The ET presence is simply about that. They have been our teachers: guiding, cajoling and motivating us, in extraordinarily clever and subtle ways (including many of them incarnating as humans), to take responsibility and make free choices that will result in a new collective agreement and therefore in a new collectively experienced reality.

The entire complexity is further entangled by certain ET races that have a vested interest in disaster and/or enslavement, not liberation – and by other races visiting us from the future who are intent on avoiding or changing timelines that from their own point of view have actually already occurred… the ultimate mindbender of all.

The reason I’m posting this story is to inspire and encourage others to come forward. Others have had a similar experience:




-- Miriam Delicado
http://projectcamelot.org/miriam_delicado.html

-- Jim Sparks
http://projectcamelot.org/jim_sparks.html

-- and this guy, “William” – who told Linda Howe a staggering and important story about the possible Third World War:
http://projectcamelot.org/index_archive_1.html -- and then scroll down to 16 July 2008.
It seems to have been a theme. Tens of thousands of us (maybe even millions) may have been warned in this way. It seems to have been at least part of the reason why abductions occur. Countless people will also have had this experience (as Jim Sparks explains) – and have not recalled it.

Repeat:

Maybe the ETs have been successful in this mission of theirs. I do NOT believe that this future will happen. I think we’ve avoided it.

What we were shown was a warning: not a prediction. As Inelia described in her May 2011 Avalon interview, we’re really doing pretty well; and as Bill Wood stated in Kerry’s recent Camelot interview, it’s possible that we may be only a handful of Grandmaster chess moves away from an inevitable checkmate of the black pieces.

When I was in Tibet, the community I was part of was united by one theme and one mission: to honor, protect, and work ceaselessly for the freedom of all living beings. In my work today, I try to echo that. It's a lesson not only for me, but for us all.

If I posted this response (or something like it) before, I apologize. I am possibly having a deja vu moment. Are you certain with you ET experience that you were shown a "possible" outcome for our planet/humanity? Could it be, as some have put out there, that we have been through this before? I'll never be able to shake that blip of an ultra-lucid memory that I had years ago -- which seem to come out of no where -- of humanity previously destroying itself or being decimated by a swift-moving cataclysm.

[ceetee9]

If I posted this response (or something like it) before, I apologize. I am possibly having a deja vu moment. Are you certain with you ET experience that you were shown a "possible" outcome for our planet/humanity? Could it be, as some have put out there, that we have been through this before? I'll never be able to shake that blip of an ultra-lucid memory that I had years ago -- which seem to come out of no where -- of humanity previously destroying itself or being decimated by a swift-moving cataclysm.

Yes, or could it be, as has been postulated before, that ALL possibilities exist and that what we call "free will" is merely which timelines we choose to weave together, either consciously, subconsciously or unconsciously, to create OUR "reality"/life experience in this incarnation?