100 people invited to go to mothership - Steve Beckow

[cellardoor]

Flight list is up etm http://the2012scenario.com/2012/02/flight-list-voyage-to-the-stars/#more-93684

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I'm on. Woohoo!!!

[DarMar]

Limor, there are some strong words from you on this and i agree with most if not with all.

This thread really stumbled me and i was stunned of what i did read there. Im aware of whole my life how easily people can be manipulated but this is really sad for me to see here. I really dont have intention to crush on anyone's dream and didnt want to get much into this thread cause i was thinking there will be all ok and people will see.
Im really sad .. page by page to see what i see here. Few times it crossed my mind "what the heck i am doing here?".

To me it looks simle like this:
to be able to help on greater plan with humanity one must be able to help HIMSELF first. this cannot be rerouted other way sadly.

To go onto ship without any knowledge of who and why is really iresponsible decission. And which leads me to point that person cannot take care of himself. Which also leads me to point that there is yet alot to learn.And even if there is great and loving will to help and participate is really directed in wrong direction.

What is the real point in floating in mothership for ten days?
to me it looks like taking child in car trip arround country ... ofc its fun, but what else is there except fun? evidence?
I personally dont need evidence, especially one like this. I dont need them to show me their point of view.

funny enough along this nice typing here with you nice people here was listening to one nice interview... I find Dan Burisch very credible guy and just what i did i connected first line from this interview with this post.
I personally know there will be shipment of people from this planet. This is one way to do it. Its hard for me to believe that i choose this planet to incarnate to leave it?

To cut long story short i link what im listening, maybe some more thoughts on this.
I4xQDDKUV_g

Hugz

[OnyxKnight]

funny enough along this nice typing here with you nice people here was listening to one nice interview... I find Dan Burisch very credible guy and just what i did i connected first line from this interview with this post.
I personally know there will be shipment of people from this planet. This is one way to do it. Its hard for me to believe that i choose this planet to incarnate to leave it?

To cut long story short i link what im listening, maybe some more thoughts on this.
I4xQDDKUV_g

Hugz

Dan Burisch? Really?

He is one of the least credible people from the myriad of interviews done so far. This became even more evident after his change of attitude towards all-things Camelot/Avalon.

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Hello, this is my first post. It's been interesting just lurking and getting to know you. I have been following this thread with great interest because I have been reading Steve's articles for ages. An interesting thought just popped in. In astrology, Neptune is known as the planet of confusion, illusion and delusion. Hmmmmm?

Ginnik you only mentioned the negative side of Neptune. Why? You're obviously not an astrologer I can tell. Perhaps you can tell us of the positive keywords for Neptune.

After you respond Sir, I will let you in on a few secrets of Astrology you are not aware of.

Stan

How about we leave astrology out of this thread altogether, and focus more on astronomy and astrobiology - topics more pertinent to this discussion, and the plausibility of the claims made by Steve.

[RedeZra]

the Bible hints to the return of the fallen angels

mind manipulating manifesting spirits

those who taught budding humanity splitting of atoms genetics war and weaponry


so Scripture wise it's not aliens from a galaxy far far away but angels from the netherworld or hell

but why do they travel in spaceships ? well how else would they fool us ?

[DarMar]

This became even more evident after his change of attitude towards all-things Camelot/Avalon.

that fact made me to question some things even more.
Hey m8 this spaceship trip changes my attitude also on some things ..not all of them, but made me more aware of some things

[cellardoor]

the Bible hints to the return of the fallen angels

mind manipulating manifesting spirits

those who taught budding humanity splitting of atoms genetics war and weaponry


so Scripture wise it's not aliens from a galaxy far far away but angels from the netherworld or hell

but why do they travel in spaceships ? well how else would they fool us ?

I'll take a bible and a cross with me hows about that?:) If it makes any difference Jesus/sananda will be there so we're told. Ah I can't believe I just said that. It is what it is. What can I say? I don't read the bible.

[Dennis Leahy]

I sense that cellardoor has a pretty good sense that nothing may happen, and will not be emotionally crushed. I actually think it's pretty brave to even entertain the notion of being among the first jumping onto an alien vessel, voluntarily. I promise not to tease cellardoor or anyone else with a ticket, but on Feb 5th I think it is fair to start a discussion about just exactly why "someone" wants people to believe that aliens are going to solve our problems.

Dennis

Does that mean you are going to tease me? I'm perfectly aware that it is pretty unlikely, although something I would love to have take place. I would never pass up an opportunity like this one, just in case it is real! Because if it were, and I didn't go because I was afraid of being teased, then I really would feel foolish. Granted, I'll still feel foolish if it doesn't happen, but I won't regret giving it a chance.

ETM

No, ETM, it means I did not read carefully enough and did not realize that more from Avalon (you and Ria) were planning on making the trip.

Now, stream of consciousness, my current thoughts are:

Only if humanity CANNOT shake off the shackles of oppression by ourselves, without intervention, and we are stuck or circling the drain in one of the following scenarios:

a.)there really are nefarious and powerful aliens on Earth already, who are aiding the nefarious Global Rulers - and humanity cannot ever stop them...

or

b.) the nefarious Global Rulers have gotten to the point in the chess game where humanity cannot win - and humanity cannot ever stop them...

Then I would be OK with a helping hand from: beings from the future, beings from another dimension, beings from the spirit world, or white hat aliens.

Maybe this is a stupid human emotion, like pride, but I don't want to be bailed out if we can handle this ourselves, or if our 'mission' on Earth is to handle this ourselves - and we can succeed if humanity pulls together. (However, if I signed up to be reincarnated into a world where suffering of billions of fellow humans is the norm, forever, and just part of the grand stage, then I cannot wait to get the hell out of here and I have no intention of coming back.)

Given that one of the scenarios above (we NEED help) is true is the only reason I would hope this is real and that they do help us.

The last possibility that would be a positive outcome is that they are not here to "fix" anything - just making species to species contact. As if we are like some tribe hidden deep in the Amazon forest that has never had contact with outsiders. Probably other ET races do visit each other and interact, so why not us as well. If this was simply disclosure and the first (big, public) contact from another race that respects our human sovereignty, I would be thrilled beyond words. I suspect all of us would.

So, allow me to leave it at that. Those would be (off the top of my head) positive scenarios. It's not like we have to wait for 50 years to find out. We'll talk either on the 5th or the 15th. Sound fair?

Dennis

[Mandala]

Ok again for the record to reflect... I Kimberley Jaeger find this potential for some of my brothers and sisters to go off planet and be able to report to us when they are off planet and after they return to be such a fun potential!!!

If this does not happen I will still love the idea of it!!! I am a dreamer and I am not the only one... I expect that some day you will all join me/us and we will live as ONE!!!

SO cellardoor, ria & etm if you are interested in giving me your skype and e-mail info I would welcome the opportunity to be your earth communication contact!!!

And if you would like to talk with me plz let me know...I am a much better talker than typer... I live in USA EST and have unlimited calling to US & Canada and have skype minutes and am able to call via skype all over the planet... so if I can be of assistance I am here for you!!!

Much love to us all in all ways always!!! XOXOXO

Kimberly, I'm right there with you. I hope this is true, but if it doesn't happen, bless you for following your heart and dreams.

I would love for this to be the shock of the century and turn out to be something wonderfully transforming. Who am I to judge you folks. Much love to all.

[Dennis Leahy]

I sense that cellardoor has a pretty good sense that nothing may happen, and will not be emotionally crushed. I actually think it's pretty brave to even entertain the notion of being among the first jumping onto an alien vessel, voluntarily. I promise not to tease cellardoor or anyone else with a ticket, but on Feb 5th I think it is fair to start a discussion about just exactly why "someone" wants people to believe that aliens are going to solve our problems.

Dennis

Sorry to respond twice, but I just realized that I did not respond to something you said that I do think deserves a response. And that is "...I think it is fair to start a discussion about just exactly why 'someone' wants people to believe that aliens are going to solve our problems."

That is said over and over and over and over again. All channeled information is not the same. it does not all say the same thing. It does not all say that "the ETs are going to beam us up and save us," or that "the ETs are gonig to go away with the cabal," or that "the ETs are going to solve all of our problems for us." So, is that a straw man or a red herring? When you always make the same accusation, irrespective of what was said in this particular, specific case?

In fact, in this case, the point is quite the opposite: that some human beings, specifically Steve Beckow and some of his friends, decided to take it upon themselves to suggest this, so as to push disclosure from our end, rather than wait for our governments to do so or for our "space brothers and sisters" to land en masse on the White House lawn, which they are not going to do. It is an effort on the part of some human beings to bring some movement to the issue instead of sitting here and waiting for them to do something.

No tractor beam was ever promised or referred to by any of these channels. Maybe you have them mixed up with someone else? I perhaps am being a little grumpy, but honestly, the reaction that comes from so many is so incredibly predictable! You all say the same thing! As if everyone who ever channeled anything said the same thing! And they do not. Hmmmph. How about turning up your hearing aid? Or listening more carefully? Or reading more carefully? Or trying to make a distinction here or there, which I'm very sure you are more than capable of doing? No.

What is so confusing about this is that all of you on that side of the discussion, the reasonable, logical one, will point out that disinformation is deliberately planted for a number of reasons, one of which is to discredit people and channels. Why bother to discredit channels if none of them are creditable? If there is an effort to discredit them, then there must be some that are legitimate, no? If there are some that are legitimate, how do we tell which ones they are?

I know how I've gone about doing it for myself, and I have put some effort into it. So hold your fire before you accuse me of blindly accepting what any channel anywhere says, and think about giving a little credit now and then to efforts made by people like Steve Beckow (you might have to check him out before you could very fairly judge him), or even think about making some distinctions for yourself rather than tossing out a blanket condemnation. When it comes down to it, really, is there much difference between blanket condemnations and blanket acceptances? I think they are both faulty.

So, for about the tenth or twentieth time it feels like, no tractor beam, no beam me up, Scotty, no solving all my problems for me or for all of mankind. Something else, something different. Could be, couldn't it?

ETM
Hi ETM,

Please see my reply to your first reply to me. That was a fresh viewpoint, more positive. Really, the most positive I can be on this. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. If we were sitting down at coffee together, I don't think my words would impact the same. Text on monitor is harsh with no inflection, facial and eye contact. The 'tractor beam' comment was my attempt at being clever to say "physically real" rather than "believed." Again, I did not intend to tease anyone, but I can see that it probably felt that way.

I think it takes a lot of guts to let people know that you plan to make this trip. You made yourself vulnerable. One way or the other, you're allowing yourself to provide a public witness to the event or the non-event, and for that I thank you.

Dennis

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

Flight list is up etm http://the2012scenario.com/2012/02/flight-list-voyage-to-the-stars/#more-93684

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I'm on. Woohoo!!!

So will you be giving us up to date information about this? ie. can you just write a quick "just left now" when the spacebikes show up to collect you?

Also what will you feel if this does not transpire?

Cheers!

[OnyxKnight]

Hi Onyxknight, Firsly do you personally feel threated by this, If the event is BS would it destablize your own personal beliefs that manifested from your owm personal experiences ?

If the event does not happen (i hope it does) would that not be more of a purification process, seperating the wheat from the chaf as they say. What is disinfo and one step closer to the truth.

I can only see two positives here, If it happens. Great news
If it does not happen. One more lie becomes transparent, another one bites the dust. The chaf blows away in the wind and we are left with purer wheat,

peace

Hi again Billyjj

Me personally? No. I don't feel threatened. I was never out to prove anything, so this would not hit me in a bad way if it doesn't turn out as it is predicted that it will. But others may suffer from it.

I think others might though. They could loose support, reputation, people who digest their material etc.

If nobody is there to listen, for what purpose are they disseminating the material (for what purpose are we all, disseminating the materials we have?). If that happens, I'll also stop posting any updates, and work on the remaining projects I have undergoing. I would only fade in the background and work that, without any extraordinary claims like ET contact.

I do see your point though - about the two positives. But those are two positives for non-contactees. If my reputation (and other contactees reputation) suffers so that a larger group of people become more discerning and better at judging a material for its validity (and maybe start educating themselves in various subjects, in order to be better analyzers of the data presented by contactees and the like), then I'm prepared to make such a sacrifice.




Hi, OnyxKnight. I know you aren't crazy about the Law of One, but as we have talked about, it is the material that is available to us here on Earth, whereas the material you prefer isn't really. So that is what we have. And Ra says that at some point they came from Venus, but in another dimension. They are no longer there, as they have become a group memory complex, or group social memory complex -- sorry, I forget the terminology.

But I am always open to hearing what you have to relate to us from your experiences. And I'm curious about why you are so iffy about the Pleiadeans -- is there something specific you can share with us, apart from them having moved Earth?

I admit I haven't finished reading your thread about your experiences, but I am working on it.

Thanks,

ETM

Its not that I'm not a fan of the 'Ra Material' - I'm just not a big fan of channeled material, period.

That being said, the 'Ra Material' does have things in common with how I view things (I have never took the time to completely cross reference that material with my own, so this is only in terms of small things that I have read thus far about it)

The general philosophy, if I'm not wrong is - all is one, everything is interconnected - it will eventually join a once source of all, and there is no right and wrong, good or evil, just different viewpoints and identities? Right?

If so, that's basically more or less how I view things (as do most other folk from above).

Using the word dimension complicates things beyond measure - and its why a lot of mainstream people say that the alternative communities use terminology they don't understand. No offense, that really is the case.

Its a matter of parallel universe. Things that have to do with quantum models of space-time, where a distant timeline, has allowed life on Venus not only appear, but to flourish and evolve into something people now call "Ra" (?).

I doubt it has to do with the Egyptian god. The name is most likely used as some sort of metaphor or symbol for something that I don't think anyone has done some serious thinking of.

The problem with communicating with intelligences identifying as 'we' (collective minds) is that they find individuality 'alien', so they might as well paint it as "immature", "temporary stage", "imperfect", "error-prone" etc., which is basically what that material has described our way of identifying ourselves. Correct me if I'm wrong - I'll retract what I have said.

And what exactly do you mean they are not there anymore? They are on another world now?


About the "Pleiadians" - they still push religious dogma, radical thinking, eugenics and Social Darwinism, global myths, and high end political power and control.

They were the ones that changed the orbit of our planets few times, and quite a few times cause a geomagnetic pole reversal. They are not exactly "life-friendly" as they portray themselves to be. Their manipulation with this planet has resulted in mass extinctions, always acting when they didn't see things fit. There have been enough of those since our sun is an unusual variable star (you wont find this in astronomy books, yet all characteristics point to that), and cases violent solar flares from time to time that have a negative effect on life-bearing planets.

They also have claimed more than once - that we are their direct genetic offspring (ask them how come our males don't get pregnant like their own - it ain't evolution at work) which is not true.

They also produced the Aldebarans - a very violent and militaristic colony, that became a culture on its own, and was the main player behind the Thule and Vril mess, and the whole rise of Nazism. They filled Hitler's head with all kinds of esoteric crap that lead to the man he became and history got to meet. Before Hitler - they were busy with the Vikings. Enough said.

I also think that the whole Pleiadians thing is a cover. I think these people come from a much closer place. The only human-looking presence in the Pleiades star cluster's habitable stars, which is very small, is with 3 meter tall humanoids with red skin complexion. Not the 6 foot, blonde, Caucasian, blue eyed people who I recently compared with the people that are present in Alphha Centauri, and both cultures are identical.

I don't remember the exact year, but it was in the 50s - I have the book in electronic form - a contact happens in ..... I think it was South Africa, where a person was contacted by these people, and when the contact ended, before they left, they told him they would be contacting a one-armed man living in Switzerland. Now how many one-armed people living in Switzerland who have had contact with extraterrestrial beings do we know of?

So good old Billy Meier comes forth with the Pleiadians story soon after. Whoever contacted him probably wasn't satisfied with him as a person and they ceased contact - making him desperate and resorting to falsifying evidence to make himself look credible. The material provided by his "Pleiadians" is very different to the material that I read on the guy who got contacted living in South Africa, in the 50s.

Take from that what you will. I have my suspicions about them even before I got to know all this. Things seemed fishy. I just got the confirmation later on.


the Bible hints to the return of the fallen angels

mind manipulating manifesting spirits

those who taught budding humanity splitting of atoms genetics war and weaponry


so Scripture wise it's not aliens from a galaxy far far away but angels from the netherworld or hell

but why do they travel in spaceships ? well how else would they fool us ?

Question - Do angels / spirits bleed? Or die?



@ another bob - Venusians = Alpha Centauri renegades

Look familiar?

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or ...

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Btw, love your stuff -- you and Omnisense are what first hooked me on this site (PA). Thanks!

:yo:

I'm afraid I don't recognize either of the anomalies in the video, nor do I have a good explanation for them - But you stirred up some interest for me in these, so thank you. I'm especially intrigued by the first video. I'll try and find if there have been similar sightings.

[DreamsInDigital]

The anomaly in the first video is chemtrails later hit by HAARP Frequencies, that's what produced the ridges.

[aranuk]

funny enough along this nice typing here with you nice people here was listening to one nice interview... I find Dan Burisch very credible guy and just what i did i connected first line from this interview with this post.
I personally know there will be shipment of people from this planet. This is one way to do it. Its hard for me to believe that i choose this planet to incarnate to leave it?

To cut long story short i link what im listening, maybe some more thoughts on this.
I4xQDDKUV_g

Hugz

Dan Burisch? Really?

He is one of the least credible people from the myriad of interviews done so far. This became even more evident after his change of attitude towards all-things Camelot/Avalon.

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Hello, this is my first post. It's been interesting just lurking and getting to know you. I have been following this thread with great interest because I have been reading Steve's articles for ages. An interesting thought just popped in. In astrology, Neptune is known as the planet of confusion, illusion and delusion. Hmmmmm?

Ginnik you only mentioned the negative side of Neptune. Why? You're obviously not an astrologer I can tell. Perhaps you can tell us of the positive keywords for Neptune.

After you respond Sir, I will let you in on a few secrets of Astrology you are not aware of.

Stan

How about we leave astrology out of this thread altogether, and focus more on astronomy and astrobiology - topics more pertinent to this discussion, and the plausibility of the claims made by Steve.

Onyxknight why did you pick on me dear boy? Why didn't you comment on Ginnyk's post, he was the one who introduced astrology. He made comments about the negative side of Neptune. If I made negative comments about you, would you think that was fair? Do you not think your positive aspects should be taken into consideration before anyone judges you?

ASTRONOMY FACTS ONLY: Neptune was discovered in 1846 just before it went into its own sign Pisces. It takes Neptune 165 years to orbit the sun. Neptune will return to its own sign Pisces on 4th February 2012. What a coincidence eh? So the coincidence is that the galactic federation mothership is called Neptune and it will be picking people up on the 4th of February when it returns to the exact moment that Neptune enteres the first second, minute, degree of the sign it rules Pisces. I think the galactic spaceship understands this physical cosmological event as special to the people of Earth. Maybe this is why tey named the mothership Neptune. What else do you not understand?

Now for an astrological comment whether you like it or not Onyxknight. Neptunes positive energies are: imagination,vision,spiritual powers, it govers rythym which includes vibrations and frequencies,the unconscious, sleep. I could go on. I do NOT think all this is sheer coincidence. I think it is meaningful. Good luck to Cellardoor, etm and Ria have fun and report back.


Stan

[DreamsInDigital]

Modern Astronomers "Discovered" Neptune in the 1800's, but many ancient cultures prior to that, thousands of years ago knew about Neptune existing.

[aranuk]

Same with Uranus and Pluto.

I agree DiD!

Stan

[tonius]

I hope that the 100 that will come back from the 10 day trip are really the ones that got in the mothership ,not copies. If they are, and they surely will give positive feedback, more will voluntieer to be Copied ar served as ''dinner'' without even knowing.( Just one possibility...,we alrady have copies, clones governing us) .

Would any of, who has really , critically done his homework, think that benevolent beings would just come with a mothership to offer a tour to curious 'humans'.
If their purpose is to help us reach a higher level of conscience, you think they would use this way, ''show of'' their cool gadgets.What than ? It would be like someone here on earth, expected you to be more 'aware' by letting you drive a Ferrari.If you are ''asleep'' before you get in that mothership , looking at Neptune from the first row wont 'awake you more'. We can call it the ' the mothership awareness induction' and we can take all the 7 billion people on erath,trip by trip toward 'higher consciousness'.
Why someone would step into this ? .., for the same reason you see people in Queue , at 4 am , waiting for the '' exlusive début '' of the next Iphone.


I really look forward to the day when people will have the same enthusiasm, when they discover the 'Neptune' inside, and talk as much about.
We dont really let go of confusing 'cool' stuff with the search for our True nature.

14 pages of posts ...wow...we really have nothing better to do (me included ), and they haven't yet began their trip.

[DreamsInDigital]

Same with Uranus and Pluto.

I agree DiD!

Stan
Now, here's another interesting bit. Venus and Mercury were moons of one of the other planets, I think Uranus? Anyway, there are two of our planets that USED to be moons of one of the other planets. I just forget precisely which ones.

[Anchor]

Flight list is up etm http://the2012scenario.com/2012/02/flight-list-voyage-to-the-stars/#more-93684

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I'm on. Woohoo!!!

So will you be giving us up to date information about this? ie. can you just write a quick "just left now" when the spacebikes show up to collect you?

Yes please, seconded!

[J0urney]

Good luck to everyone lucky enough to go on this trip. I would love to be there with you but never knew it was happening. Have a safe and wonderful adventure. Bring back lots of photos. My entire family sends their best.

Any news on when the next one will be?

[fifi]

originally posted by aranuk
Good luck to Cellardoor, etm and Ria have fun and report back.

How many Avalon members are on the flight list? We are eagerly waiting for your updates.

[fifi]

Transcript of Archangel Michael and Grener’s Instructions to Attendees
http://the2012scenario.com/2012/02/transcript-of-archangel-michael-and-greners-instructions-to-attendees/


Archangel Michael: I am Archangel Michael, warrior of peace, warrior of love. And I step forward first not that Grener is not anxious to talk to you, because he is, but I also wish to speak to you, my beloved ones, my warriors of blue, my warriors of peace, even though you are of every ray and every color. I claim you this day once again as my brothers and sisters, and my brothers and sisters of hope, of strength, of endurance, of power and of peace, of calm and of serenity.

Of course there is great excitement in the air, for what you are talking about in terms of this undertaking of the formation of your grassroots delegation for Gaia, for Earth, to take your place at the Intergalactic Council is very exciting. And yes, many approach you, each with their own agenda, for how could it not be their own agenda?

And if they are excited, if they are afraid to be left behind, if they are afraid once again to be disappointed or to be discounted, then simply embrace them, my friends, embrace them in your arms, as I do and as the Universal Mother does, as Jesus/Sananda does, and yes, even as Grener does. For we all hold you, and we reassure you that, if not now, not on this journey, this journey of joy, do not worry. Your time and your turn will come. And it will become a journey of love. And you will not be one of many because the focus will be on you; you will not be lost in the shuffle.

But I also speak to each of your hearts, and not just those who are gathered this day on this phone call, but all of you. I speak to your hearts of faith, of trust, of love. You have held the torch. Do not look away, do not turn away. For it is doubt that creates the false veils that create illusions that you are not capable of going forward, that you are not capable of creating peace on Earth, that you are not capable of this undertaking. And, my beloved ones, that is simply not of truth!

You have stood by me in the darkest of hours. And so now what I am asking of thee is for you to stand by me in the brightest of hours. I have no doubt that you will, but I wish to reassure, and I wish to say I am with you in this undertaking, and I am with you in this journey.

Now, before I step aside for Grener, do any of you have queries of me?

Steve Beckow: Yes, I do, Lord. If you’re going to be stepping aside, perhaps I could ask you a few questions before you do.

AAM: Yes. Go ahead.

SB: All right. Now, some of these are questions that have come up for readers, some of them are questions which I think I should ask, but they’re not necessarily questions that I have. There have been messages in the last few days purporting to come from you – I won’t mention the name of the transmitter – one from SaLuSa in the past day and one from Matthew today, and they have not mentioned the matter of our going to the Neptune. Could you comment on why that would be, please?

AAM: Because they have not clearly asked about it and they have also not been included in this foray. It is not that they are so much overlooking it, it is simply not within the realm of what they are doing.

SB: Okay. Now, you realize that one of the messages purports to come from you?

AAM: Yes, I do. But you also understand that I talk about a lot of things. And I speak about many different kinds of journeys. This is not the focal point of the universe, and this journey, although it is historic, it is momentous, it is a journey of light and a journey of love, it is not the focal point of what is going on. The focal point of what is going on is the human race, the collective emerging out of the illusions of darkness and embracing the light, not only of anything that we have to communicate, but the light of who they are, the light of their own being.

So there are channels that are very, very interested in this intergalactic business, shall we say, and then there are those to whom it is not front and center, nor does it need to be. It is not the entire purpose even of what you do, dear heart. And another reason why we are not having everybody speak of it – and perhaps now is the time; this would have been in Grener’s field, but I will speak to it – there has been a great deal of controversy about this. There has been a great deal of controversy even before this was even spoken of, or the invitation asked and accepted. And so what we are doing is limiting it basically to one area and to one channel.

SB: All right, Lord. It’s just good to have that explanation from you.

Now, I need to say something, and I hope you won’t be disappointed with me or upset with me, but I need to have it be a matter of public record. You remember October 14, 2008 and how disappointing that was. I need it to be stated on the public record that if this does not come off for any reason I’ll be retiring from this field. I accept full responsibility for it, and in order that the person who caused this not continue to be around and embarrass people, I will be going back into private life. I just need you to know that, and everybody else to know that, okay?

AAM: That would be a tragedy.

SB: I can’t see how I could remain, if this did not happen.

AAM: I understand fully what you are saying, and I understand, dear heart, the logic and the heart feeling that you are giving to us. And we also understand the line in the sand that you are giving us. But let us also say that the contribution that you make, and the foundation that you have built, and the information that you share is far beyond what any individual can be anticipated to provide. So for you to take responsibility would be ludicrous, dear heart. The responsibility does not rest with you, it rests with us. And that is what we want to have very clear.

The only human factor that we would wish to address – and it would never be in terms of blame or fault – it would be doubt. And, dear heart, you have never been one that has been in doubt. So we state our case publicly as well! We feel that it would be a tragedy if, for any reason, not just this, that you chose to leave the public arena, because you are the communicator and you are the voice of integrity. And you say, ‟Yes, lord, but how can I claim to be the voice of integrity if what I say does not come to pass?” And what I say to you, [is that] what you say will come to pass. But we understand. And we know that you would always be of the light, and always be of the love, and that our bond, my dear brother, can never be broken.

SB: I know that, Lord. Thank you.

Two more questions relating to things that have happened. Some light workers – and I have no desire to share names or cause anyone any embarrassment, I’m simply interested in the question itself – have said that we’re risking the credibility of all light workers by taking this step, that their own sources have not referred to it and that no predictions have come true in the past.

I don’t believe that, but I think our listeners would want to have that kind of comment addressed, if you would.

AAM: This does not speak to the credibility either of predictions – and that is a topic we have spoken a great deal about – but let us concentrate on the heart of the matter, and that is the credibility of light workers. And of course there are many millions and millions of light workers who really have no expressed interest or direction in terms of being part of an intergalactic journey or being connected with their star brothers or sisters. Their journeys are more of healing, more of teaching, more of what you would think of as love, light, hope, faith.

The credibility is not at risk. The credibility would be at risk if such an invitation, real or not, if such an invitation was issued to humankind, to the light workers, and nobody responded. Then I would say, yes, the credibility of the light worker community is on the line, for where is the faith, where is the hope, where is the trust? It is the one thing that the Universal Mother and Father have asked of all light beings, particularly in this year of rapid change, is to step forward into action in clarity.

Now, for some that means having the courage to simply answer the question, “Yes, I believe in change, yes, I believe in God, yes, I believe in our star brothers and sisters, and I do not believe in greed and lust and unfairness.” And for some it means taking the courage to a different level, not a higher level, but a different level, and saying, “Well, I would like to be part of that group that, on behalf of Earth, takes the jaunt to go and meet with our star brothers and sisters.” The credibility is in the stepping forward, in the willingness to commit, not on what you do or don’t do in terms of completion of this single act. That does not represent the entire community. That is simply not so.

You are being asked – you, the collective, in different ways, and in different assignments pertinent to your individual missions, have been asked to do incredible, remarkable, unusual things. So, for some it is to go to the stars. For some it is to act as an undercover agent. For others, it is to sit with the sick and dying and to show them the light. For others, it is to work in the community and hold that light. There are many ways in which all of the light workers are undertaking the tasks at hand.

That would be very false. It would be unrealistic to judge an entire movement and group, millions of people, by the singular act of a few. That would not be of love, and that most certainly would not be of the higher dimensions. That would be of old Earth, of people acting as judge and jury, of holding on to guilt and blame and fault. No, you do not wish to see any of this.

SB: All right, Lord. Thank you. Now, some light workers have criticized Linda for accepting money for her work, and they’ve said she couldn’t possibly be reaching the light if she does that, and have discounted her messages saying they’re not coming from you and they shouldn’t be listened to. I’ve addressed that online, but perhaps you could say a few words on the subject as well. And I might add that the particular light worker has softened in the face of the overall discussion. But if you could just address that notion, please.

AAM: Yes, and we will address it no only for Linda, but we will address it for many light workers. The direction that Linda has, particularly in this matter, comes from her particular guide Nathanial and Archangel Gabriel who dictate basically to her how much to charge and when to do so. What many who level this charge also do not understand [is] how much she does for free, for gratis, and the hours and the dedication that [have] been put in. But that does not matter, because we know and she knows.

This one, and many, we ask to remain on Earth. Now, particularly for Linda, this was a struggle. For a long time she simply wished to come home, to return home to our beloved side, to her beloved Jesus, to her beloved Mother, and to not continue. And for many years, the feeling of being a voice in the wilderness was very hard. But nevertheless, she continued. And we did not want her or any light worker to live in the old paradigm of lack, of limitation, of such a scarcity of resources.

This one, the public does not know her history. They do not know the many accidents and illnesses that she has gone through in her life, how much she has lost, not only financially but in terms of those she has cherished and loved and who have not agreed with her path. And that is not just true of Linda. It is true of so many.

How would you choose that she exist in the world when we are asking her to stay? What better way to anchor her feet on Gaia, yes, than to make her be of the world? And in part that means earning a living, eating human food, having human emotions, victories and fears, defeats – all of this. There are so many who say, “I want to be a light worker, but I can’t because I have to do my job.”

Now, that is erroneous, because what they are not seeing is as a light worker they take their light into their job, whether it is a lawyer or an accountant, a doctor, a dentist, or a collector of garbage, it does not matter. But if they are a gifted healer or a gifted channeler, a gifted communicator, and they are of an age where they have no other support, then we say, charge for what you do, because what you are declaring is value.

You are not charging for the information! You are charging for your time, so you can survive and continue on. The information is beyond price. The downloads, the healings – they are beyond price. You cannot say, well, this one is worth $50, and this one $500 – that is absurd! But we want people, light workers, to survive.

So that is the answer.

SB: All right. Thank you for that, Lord. Now, I have four short questions – well, the first one’s not necessarily short, but I have four questions and then we’ll let you go. All right?

The first question is about that person that you know about, and that is a gentleman, a young man named Sahar, who was jailed under questionable circumstances and now is in a psychiatric hospital. I know he’s going to listen to this. Is there anything you can do for him? And if not, would you please give him a message?

AAM: The message is, do not give up hope, Sahar. And the message is, you are not insane. And yes, we will maneuver behind the scenes to assist you in receiving and maintaining your freedom.

SB: All right, Lord, thank you. I’m sure that will buoy him up a great deal.

Now, a reader would like this answered from you particularly.

“I have a special request, am posting in regards to the healing ship or tune up that AA Michael discussed , would love to know more about this & when this would be available to all, as my three year old grandson suffers from Dravets syndrome, a rare and debilitating form of epilepsy, requiring daily medication to partially control seizures. Would you be able to run it by Archangel Michael?”

Could she come on this ship with a three-year-old, Lord?

AAM: First of all let us suggest to you and tell you, without any hesitation, is that the healing chambers have been available to those on planet who have made themselves aware of it for quite some time. And so it is not something new, it is simply something that is coming to the attention of your readers. And so what we would suggest, in fact, we think that this would be a very difficult trip for the three-year-old, because – it would be difficult. So begin to ask at night that this sweet one be beamed up.

But one of the things that Grener is going to talk to you about is later there will be many, many, many visits to the ship as well, and to the healing ships. Because those are also stand-alone. Yes, there are healing chambers within the mothership, but there are also healing ships whose sole purpose is to rehabilitate and revitalize. So simply asked to be beamed up to one of the healing ships and you will be.

SB: Okay, Lord. That’s wonderful to hear. Now, this is a very delicate matter. I don’t quite know what to say, and I do need guidance. There’s a mother who has a child, I think he – I don’t know how old he is, he might perhaps be five or something around that – who fears the Galactics. And my question is should we allow her to bring her child on board?

AAM: No.

SB: No. Okay, now, should we allow her to come on board without the child and take the chance that her child will feel that her mother’s been abducted?

AAM: No. What we would suggest is that first the child receive the healing that is necessary. This one has very strong past life memories of the intergalactic wars and being annihilated several times. So yes, the fear is a bleed-through, and the child has clear vision and so is aware of the Galactics and even the Intergalactics. So no, first the healing, then the visitations.

SB: Well, that’s very helpful to know that. I’m sure the mother too will be glad to actually know the reason for this. Those are my questions of you, Lord, and I hate to see you go. But!

AAM: Dear Steve, do you know that I would say the same to you?

SB: Thank you, Lord. I’m looking forward to seeing you soon.

AAM: Go with my love. All of you, go with my love. Farewell.

SB: Farewell.

Grener of Ashira
Grener: I am Grener of Ashira, of Neptune.

SB: Hello, Grener, welcome.

G: And welcome to you, and to all of you. We have gone from zero to one hundred, have we not?

SB: Much more than that, Lord. [laugh] And I’m going to be asking you to raise that number, too.

G: Let us explain what our rationale was for suggesting around 150. And it was not simply because of accommodations here, for as you know the Mothership is organic and very large. So we are able to accommodate many.

But the plan has been that this initial group, this initial gathering, was to be very – from our perspective – cozy, collegial, coming to know each other. And yes, of course, there is an agenda and a structure, but really in a casual way that was not in any way akin to a three-ring-circus.

That was the idea, that there would be a cadre, a fellowship, that would return to Earth as one – by the way, and we did not talk about that because we felt that we would talk about it when you were on board – but that you would return as one and that this connection of your community would be so strong that you would support each other through the coming changes.

When you change that to many hundred, it becomes a very different dynamic.

And the other part is we wanted to keep you, mostly, together as a group — and, certainly on the Neptune — because there is enough to see, to do, to learn, to exchange… Understand we see this entirely as an exchange. but we also want to welcome you, to welcome this delegation to the IG council.

But also to have, yes, what I have called “a joy ride,” because it is to be done in joy. Not in frenzy, not in desperation, not in fear, not in doubt, for there is no room for any of that, because that begins to feed the fear of the collective, and that cannot, that is against our law, we cannot do that.

What we are suggesting – and you can tell me what you think, for I have been a negotiator for many years, but I have also been a fleet commander, so you know that I also have a habit of getting my own way (laughter). But what we are thinking is that, and you have already touched on it, anyway, because not all of your delegates can come full time… that those who have made a request may not come for the full 10 days.

The core grouping will be with us for the full length. And then others will have the opportunity. And we are not going to say “Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday” for all this group. We will just say, “Be available….” and if it means missing something you had planned on Earth, so be it. Which is more important to you?

So, these, the group that is the second group and third group and fourth group, we will lift them up for a visit while the primary delegation is still there and going on… then, thereafter, after the original intent is grounded, there will be many, many, many visits.

Of course, the idea is that we are opening the doors. So that there is not a division, that we will begin to visit back and forth. And let me tell you, Steve… there have been as many requests on our side, as well as yours, and long before this delegation was formulated, we consistently have requests from crews onboard ship to have permission to go and be a delegation to Earth. This has been a sore point for many! So we don’t laugh at what you are going through. (Laughs.)

Now, you may begin your questions, or you may respond to my suggestion.

SB: Well, I think it is a wonderful suggestion. I just wonder, particularly with BZ, I just wonder what kind of a logistical situation this will present for her. We’ll have to figure out some way of handing this logistically… BZ, do you want to ask Grener a question on that?

G: Let us make it very simple.

SB: OK.

G: Because the emails and the phone calls are flooded. People, first of all, people are already letting us know. We do not interfere, and we certainly do not invade people’s privacy, but we are made aware the moment you are made aware. and it is important for Linda to also hear this.

As soon as the email or the phone calls come, think of it as a party line or a cc.We are getting the request as well.

So, you may keep your lists, because in human form, people wish to be reassured that their request has been heard, received and considered. And that is what they need to know. And that we from our side are accommodating as much, as many, and as rapidly as we can.

But people cannot sit in doubt. They have need to sit in the feeling of excitement and upliftment. So, that is the, the ticket.

SB: All right, how will they know when you are going to come?

G: They won’t!

SB: Ummn, some of them work, some of them have children…

G: Oh, we are going to take that into account, we will let them know. And for some it will be during their sleeping hours, and we suggest they will be very willing to give up a night’s sleep to come on board.

SB: When you say during their sleep hours, you don’t mean they won’t remember it…

G: No, we do not, and this is a very good question and it is a question many have asked. this is a physical, human conscious experience; this is not an astral invite. We extend those all the time; so, yes, people will have the conscious knowing of being present and the conscious memory of what has transpired.

SB: All right. Will you, then, in regards to the first group: Will you allow us a little leeway to take into account people who say something that, that communicates to us that they really should be on this first trip.

We will take that into account. Now you also know that there are some that will self-eliminate, even though they are on that list. But there will be enough people, do not worry. And yes, we will give you that leeway.

All right. Here is another request: Will you allow someone from, well someone, to come to your ship today or tomorrow as a scout, to be able to go there and say, “I saw the Neptune, I am back here, it is real,” etc., so that those people among our readers and listeners who won’t believe it until they hear that kind of report can be reassured, … but also, to give reassurance to the people who are going to be cancelling appointments and cancelling work shifts in order to be on this the trip, they will then know by today or tomorrow that this is real, someone has seen the ship, and they will have reassurance that they can cancel their work shifts…

G: You are, you are repeating what Linda has said to me. (laughter) And yes, because it is an act of faith to cancel appointments to cancel responsibilities and commitments, and we understand that. We absolutely understand that.

Who are you nominating?

SB: Well, uh, I have two people whom I could nominate: One has just turned on his microphone; the other, though I’d hate to miss her, is BZ.

G: We will accept these two. And then, if this does not occur, you will know not that this is a farce, but that we need to re-plan this. But no, we will accept this, and we will do it within the next day, so that people have, and when we say day, we mean by the end of … well, you are already in the middle of your Thursday, by midday Friday.

G: Yes.

SB: So, I will tell people to cancel their appointments Friday afternoon. So, let me just get this straight. So, you will take both BZ and Dave…is that correct?

G: What an unusual combination! Yes, we will.

SB: Yes, and how will they know to be ready for this?

G: They don’t need to do anything, but when they have someone, do not be fearful, but when they are contacted, they will know that it is simply time to go.

SB: And how long will they be away?

G: Oh, it will be a very rapid turnaround. It will be an hour or two.

SB: Good. (Laughter.) That is about how long I think this project can spare them. (Laughter) That is wonderful. Thank you very much. Now, there are small… Oh, BZ and Dave? Is that good?

G: BZ and Dave. That is your scouts.

D?: We would like to take photographs, so Steve can put it on the site as we have left. Is that possible?

G: Yes, you can do that.

D: Thank you.

SB: OK, BZ?

BZ: Yes, I’m good.

SB: You’re good.

G: Yes, you are, dear heart!

SB: (Laughs) As a matter of fact! Next question — and I have about 8 more to go, for you…
There’s a small number of prominent light workers, who have worked hard for disclosure and who should be a part of this, but who honestly that believe this is not a credible matter. And I honor their beliefs, so they won’t probably come along.

But once we reach the ships, or even once Dave and BZ and Dave come back, they’ll see right away it is a credible effort. Supposing they don’t? Supposing we are already on the ships. Would you be willing to drop back and get the and bring them aboard?

G: It will depend. We are not trying to run a shuttle service. and you are also asking us to have the other 328 pop back and forth as well. So, it is possible, but it is not a guarantee.

SB: All right, how about if we limit it to three people.

G: Yes, you can do that. Now, I also want to tell you: We have said that this is an envoy of people who are credible and who have been involved. And we have names that you do not have, so don’t worry about that, either. So, yes, you can ask for three.

SB: OK, that’s good… All right, so, next question. Oh, yes, and you’ve already answered this, but I just need confirmation, if you wouldn’t mind. We may make a mistake; we may have a person’s name that we give you (an email handle) instead of their real name. Can you reassure us that if we make a mistake, that it won’t interfere with this person coming on board, the person won’t be left behind.

G: No, we know who they are. We have very good tracking systems.

SB: All right, that is wonderful. Uh, how will people be picked up? You said a limousine would be coming, and I am stuck here thinking a black limousine will be coming to our apartments or houses. How exactly will these people be picked up?

G: It is very likely to be a black limousine.

S: (Laughter). OK, you were being accurate and truthful.

G: Yes.

SB: OK, that’s very good to know. And how will they be returned?

G: You will be returned enmasse; and this is something that we had planned to discuss while you were onboard. You will be returned enmasse to a central location that we all mutually decide upon while you are onboard ship. Because that is where the press will be delegated to meet you, as well.

SB: Fine. And if there are some people who don’t want to meet the press?

G: Then they can go home quietly. But understand, those who have been selected have made the commitment they are willing to speak and to be the voice for the Disclosure.

SB: All right. I’ll make sure that people know that, ahead of time, if anybody doesn’t.
Now, a request from Geoff West. He’s asked, and I make this request from him because others may also have this request, so Geoff has been the first to state it. Geoff has asked to be permitted to remain onboard the Neptune and produce documentaries. Would that be acceptable to you?

G: No. Now, Geoff can return and produce documentaries. But it is very important — that is why we want you to have lists. It is very important that there is no shadow of someone remaining on board; because the forces that wish to be fear mongerers will say someone was abducted, and held against their will. So, Geoff, you can come back and we will welcome you with open arms. But first, you go back.

SB: All right, I’m sure Geoff will be fine with that. Are cats welcomed?

G: If a cat wants to come, they are welcome. Same as dogs.

SB: All right, that’s good. I’m sure BZ will be reassured. OK, I am reviewing my questions, here…

G: It will be a treat you know, for many of us, and particularly for us Hessians; we love cats. We will be chatting away, and do not be offended if you think we are spending too much time with the cats. (Laughter)

S: That is wonderful. I have asked all my questions… cannot think of any others. If anyone else on the panel that’s listening here, would like to ask a question, please do….

D’Arcy: I have a question. Hello?

G: Hello.

D: Hello. With my work situation, I anticipate, it looks like I will not be able to come until Wednesday, and I just want to hear from you that that is OK.

G: That is OK. But you will not be a temporary visitor, you will be with us the rest of the time, correct

D: That’s what I plan on. I am working on it, with work.

G: Whatever works for you, we are prepared to accommodate. There was discussion, you know, among us, and with this channel, to re-limit the size, and even delay until the furor had died down. But that was over-ruled.

And you are ready to come. All of you! And we are ready to receive you.

SB: Wonderful.

D: Looking forward to seeing you, so much!

SB: And we can… people can phone home from the ship, is that correct?

G: They will have a way to phone home; it is not your traditional phone, but that is how it will be picked up on the other end.

SB: All right. The cost is not astronomical,is it? (laughter)

G: There is no cost, dear heart!

SB: All right, anyone else before we close?

BZ: This is BZ, I just want to say we appreciate your patience with the animals; and we hope you are doing well with all the arrangements you make for us and all the accommodations you are making for us, and we appreciate you.

G: You are welcome, sweet BZ, and I will see you shortly, will I not? You will be greeted by the commander of the ship… who happens to be my son, but he has earned this position as he is very eager to tell everybody.

D’Arcy: I just want to say thank you as well, and I am looking forward to seeing you tomorrow

G: Go in peace, my friends

SB: Thank you, Grener…

G:… and go with my love. Farewell.

SB: Farewell.

Steve Beckow really puts his neck on the line here, and if this doesn't turn out well, I will be very sad to see him leaving his work as a lightworker. He has such a dedicated commitment to bring out the Truth.

[joedjemal]

Steve Beckow really puts his neck on the line here, and if this doesn't turn out well, I will be very sad to see him leaving his work as a lightworker. He has such a dedicated commitment to bring out the Truth.

Even if it doesn't happen he's bringing out the truth. If it doesn't happen it will show that this channel isn't real or is untrue. I joined the yahoo group, there's a great deal of excitement. If this is yet another anticlimax there will be a lot of badly upset people. We'll know later today in any case.

[RedeZra]

so Scripture wise it's not aliens from a galaxy far far away but angels from the netherworld or hell


I'll take a bible and a cross with me hows about that?:) If it makes any difference Jesus/sananda will be there so we're told.

good thinking ; )

bring some holy water in a bottle and baptize the mothership

and if you smell sulfur and it wasn't you then it's probably them


Sananda might be onboard but he is the Anti one

you can read about it in the Bible

[Ria]

Hi folks, I am not here for a debate.
All I can say is that I was guided to go.
I assume many would go, if you thought it completely safe.
Well I would kick my self, if I missed the most important thing to happen, based on unknowable fears.
I have concerns for my family, yes.
There are people I love and care about, some one has to put there toe in the water.
Others have,[ but not in numbers] reporting how wanderfull it is.
I wont to know, confirm I did know all along, we will be witness for each other.
Potentially it appears there are about 290 going.
I thank those who wish us well.

[Limor Wolf]

I reckon I will not be miss popularity here (but that is fine by me) : No ship will come.
(not this time around,and not like that)

Have you heard about this 'news' on Kerry's blog? on David Icke's?

And for a good reason.not only a scenario like this won't happen - people who are suppose to deliver this message later on to the media and in actuality carry a disclosure,will not be chosen out of having a lot cast on the internet...more likely it will be those who the benevolent ET's work with for years.
I do not intened to make anyone feel bad...I can understand those wishfull thinkings,I really do,and I appreciate all of you for being who you are.I am honored to share this space with you,but this is not the way,and will not be...when the time comes

respectfully

~*&^~*&^

Limor

[Referee]

Hi folks, I am not here for a debate.
All I can say is that I was guided to go.
I assume many would go, if you thought it completely safe.
Well I would kick my self, if I missed the most important thing to happen, based on unknowable fears.
I have concerns for my family, yes.
There are people I love and care about, some one has to put there toe in the water.
Others have,[ but not in numbers] reporting how wanderfull it is.
I wont to know, confirm I did know all along, we will be witness for each other.
Potentially it appears there are about 290 going.
I thank those who wish us well.

Have a good trip. Maybe I will see you there who knows how these things work. If not I wish you all safe travels!

[Ria]

Limor, you say it is not the way, how do you know it is not. What makes you think, you are the authority on this, and how things are done, or should be done.
I am not assuming anything, I am willing to take a leap of faith.
I do not need the OK from Kerry or David or hide behind their skirts and they can not baby sit every one.
And I don't mind if I have egg on my face.
Please don't fret, be at peace.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hi folks, I am not here for a debate.
All I can say is that I was guided to go.
I assume many would go, if you thought it completely safe.
Well I would kick my self, if I missed the most important thing to happen, based on unknowable fears.
I have concerns for my family, yes.
There are people I love and care about, some one has to put there toe in the water.
Others have,[ but not in numbers] reporting how wanderfull it is.
I wont to know, confirm I did know all along, we will be witness for each other.
Potentially it appears there are about 290 going.
I thank those who wish us well.

I thought you were not going Ria... have you had confirmation via email?

edit...It's ok I just spoke to you ... laters ;-)

viking

[kersley]

Limor, you say it is not the way, how do you know it is not. What makes you think, you are the authority on this, and how things are done, or should be done.
I am not assuming anything, I am willing to take a leap of faith.
I do not need the OK from Kerry or David or hide behind their skirts and they can not baby sit every one.
And I don't mind if I have egg on my face.
Please don't fret, be at peace.

My sentiments exactly Ria. who would miss an opportunity like this is ? All my life i dreamt of being taken away like this. Maybe my turn will come soon? I hope so.
I'm so happy for you and the others. How excited you must be?
Please do come back and share your experience with the world..
K

[Ria]

Kersley will do, all being well we may need as-simulating time, don't know yet, and thank you.

[jaybee]

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a little song for you all to sing as you leave.......:p


xZFQJQE2DpI


oh noes...those black-op b*****ds have made it go all crackly...:eyebrows:


toodle-pip....:wave:


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[cellardoor]

Flight list is up etm http://the2012scenario.com/2012/02/flight-list-voyage-to-the-stars/#more-93684

¤=[Post Update]=¤

I'm on. Woohoo!!!

So will you be giving us up to date information about this? ie. can you just write a quick "just left now" when the spacebikes show up to collect you?

Yes please, seconded!

I will try my best but I plan on leaving pretty early, the plan is to give you updates from the ship. I'd really like to give you lot hourly updates but my broke ass can't afford an iphone or any phone with the internet, so I'm just gonna have to settle with letting you know when I'm there. Hope that's ok.

In response to the question I seen about how I would feel If this is false. I would feel a deep sadness for Steve, for the loss of his work but life goes on and like I said earlier in the thread, we can just add this to the list of other failed disclosure attempts, made by people with big hearts. Personally I will need to re-evaluate my perspective, but that's ok. It's got to the point with channelled material where even the most passionate readers are fed up with the apparent lack of evidence, so this really is a cross roads for me. I decided to go all in because after years of personal validation in regards to positive E.T's I feel they are guiding me to come out of the wood work so to speak. So in a way Kerry is right. I feel I have been working with the E.T to get to this point, so who knows?

[Billy]

So today at midday two scouts will be having a quick pre trip. Cool. Midday in what timezone will that be. 11.11 am GMT here now :-) can someone confirm later that this has happened ?


All right. Here is another request: Will you allow someone from, well someone, to come to your ship today or tomorrow as a scout, to be able to go there and say, “I saw the Neptune, I am back here, it is real,” etc., so that those people among our readers and listeners who won’t believe it until they hear that kind of report can be reassured, … but also, to give reassurance to the people who are going to be cancelling appointments and cancelling work shifts in order to be on this the trip, they will then know by today or tomorrow that this is real, someone has seen the ship, and they will have reassurance that they can cancel their work shifts…

G: You are, you are repeating what Linda has said to me. (laughter) And yes, because it is an act of faith to cancel appointments to cancel responsibilities and commitments, and we understand that. We absolutely understand that.

Who are you nominating?

SB: Well, uh, I have two people whom I could nominate: One has just turned on his microphone; the other, though I’d hate to miss her, is BZ.

G: We will accept these two. And then, if this does not occur, you will know not that this is a farce, but that we need to re-plan this. But no, we will accept this, and we will do it within the next day, so that people have, and when we say day, we mean by the end of … well, you are already in the middle of your Thursday, by midday Friday.

G: Yes.

SB: So, I will tell people to cancel their appointments Friday afternoon. So, let me just get this straight. So, you will take both BZ and Dave…is that correct?

[aranuk]

Is it going to be midday in California or London? Where is Steve Beckow?

Stan

[bennycog]

phew, wow what a read :)
i commend you dudes for coming out and saying your going to attend this 'event' because i would never havetold anyone until i set foot on that ship..
i am so pleased with the way you guys are constructing yourself here too, with all the questions and laughing ( hopefully not at you but just on the subject)
you three are positive and keeping in your minds "this may never happen but damn to hell i'll give this a go" and your imagination is whirling i would think mine would be.

ill cross my fingers for you as i have always dreamt one day of doing intersteller travel.. and dreaming is as close as i thought i would ever get..
i feel wierdly dejavu about all this too and have no idea why, as i read the many posts on this thread, it felt like i had read through it all before. it brought back no other memory for me though..
dejavu is something i have always been good at haha..

once again i will say thank you for giving us something beautiful to think about.. and nothing happening will not make you become outsiders ok?
no fear no foul :)
love ta ya dudes

[cellardoor]

Is it going to be midday in California or London? Where is Steve Beckow?

Stan

Well they are 8 hour behind the UK so mid day for them will be 20:00 for us. By the way it was said they'd be back by mid day so they be leaving earlier.

[etm567]

Cellardoor,you and I ,we are the likes.we share the same hopes,we wish for the same goals,we have pretty much similar aspirations.In a way,I find your naivety charming.no disrespect intended.You claim to have made your homework,yet,at the same time you say that 'they' have changed the timeline on earth,well,they did not.we did.please think long and hard if the concerned voices around here are giving our responses the way we do because of fear or negativity or because of holding a more full perspective. There is lots of good out there,and there is also the usual playing interests,just as we have here. I will not tell you what to think,or how to act,but I do say outloud that I have expected from Avalon members a much more rational and mind critical assesment on any information being thrown at us at this time.my bad.

Yes, that's it. You're saying all the negative things you are saying because you hold "a more full perspective." Cellardoor's naivete is charming? You are downright insulting. You know more, right? You are smarter, better informed? Well, I say maybe you are not. Maybe you think you know more, and you do not. That is why we say people are entitled to their own opinions. You don't even know me. Why should I believe you have more knowledge, when you can't even put spaces after your commas, or spell? Geesh....

Personally, I find your assessment downright irrational and limited, of the knee-jerk variety, not real critical thinking at all. Or when it comes to the critical thinking part, I find your assessments rather lacking in depth. But then, that is just MY opinion, which obviously is very different from yours. And we are both entitled to have them.

But then I also am very irritated when reading your posts because you won't use the spacebar for some reason, or write in sentences, which makes it physically more difficult for me to actually discern what you are trying to say. What does that say about your critical thinking abilities, when supposedly you are attempting to communicate to people halfway around the world?

ETM

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Is it going to be midday in California or London? Where is Steve Beckow?

Stan

He is in Canada, Vancouver I think. Wherever he is, it is Pacific Time here in the US. I'm on the East Coast, so he is three hours behind me.

ETM

[cellardoor]

Steve Beckow 3/2/2012:


We had 80,000 hits on the 2012 Scenario website yesterday. We expect over 100,000 today.

:jaw:

A little nervous now Lol

[lindabaker]

Bon voyage, mes amis. Wave at us! Y'all come back now, hear? (old joke)

[Billy]

Steve Beckow 3/2/2012:


We had 80,000 hits on the 2012 Scenario website yesterday. We expect over 100,000 today.

:jaw:



A little nervous now Lol

The world is indeed watching, TPTW will be pooing in their pants. Just wait until the scouts return Cellardoor, Your nerves will be excitingly strong, Let it be so. :wizard:

[Tony]

Have they mentioned anything about rectum probes?

[DarMar]

this one will be such a reality slap to some people that i hope they finnaly open their eyes and see thing as they are not they wish it was.
instead of focusing minds towards iPhone and our master space command some will maybe understand that position that they are in, many archangels would swap places for yours. Hey you should teach them but you will still have to learn that one, thats why you r here, remember? no? maybe you will with time remember.
And while your guts jumping up and down from exitement while waiting for non happening, remember life goes even if few people are paused.

i suggest that after non happening you take those 10 days for yourself anyways ... it seems its very needed for some

[Billy]

Have they mentioned anything about rectum probes?

Why Tony, Would you like one brought back for you :p

[cellardoor]

This is a great introduction to Steve's work for anyone not familiar, needless to say I agree with it also:


We had 80,000 hits on the 2012 Scenario website yesterday. We expect over 100,000 today.

If you consider what’s happening from the point of view of the movement to push ET/UFO Disclosure forward, we live at a moment in history that is monumental, beyond any that I can think of at any other time in our past.

People are flocking to this website and the occasion should not be missed to lay before them what we are doing here, what we most fervently want to see happen. So for the person who has come to this website for the first time, let us state exactly what’s going on here.

We are disclosing the presence of extraterrestrials in large numbers around our planet, who have come here on a mission of peace and benefit to the entire globe. We have taken a stand that we will not tolerate silence and the covering-up of their presence any more and we are willing to stake all that we have and all that we are to remove that curtain of denial.

Extraterrestrials began visiting this planet in large numbers after we terrestrials began exploding nuclear bombs in World War II. Apart from killing our own selves in large numbers, we were also causing interdimensional damage with our weapons.

The Earth had come of age and was now handling serious weapons and the galactics came to rein us in.

They put a ban on the explosion of nuclear weapons in space. They met with our world leaders and offered to help us advance technologically and explore space, if we would only agree to stop exploding nuclear bombs and turn to the ways of peace.

Not all extraterrestrials who visited this planet were friendly. Some service-to-self Greys and reptilians, who had been visiting the planet for centuries, had it in their minds to enslave us. They joined with the dark forces on Earth, whom we conveniently lump together under the name “Illuminati,” and began a program to dominate the world, reduce the population from 7 billion or so to 500 million, and enslave the survivors.

The friendly, service-to-others extraterrestrials, in space coalitions like the Galactic Federation, approached our governments but were rebuffed. They were aware of the program for world domination that the Illuminati and their off-planet masters had devised.

In addition they were aware of and served a Divine Plan for a worldwide transformational shift at the end of the cycle in Earth’s history that closes on winter solstice, Dec. 21, 2012. They set about to curb the dark forces and to prepare us for that global shift.

In this they were opposed by the shadow government and its military forces. But the friendly galactics, along with Earth’s own spiritual hierarchy of ascended masters and celestials, have drawn a line in the sand and stopped the Illuminati from winning in their program of enslavement.

We see around us Illuminati structures falling in the military, finance, media, education, medicine, religion and all other institutions that the Illuminati controlled. The galactics have informed us through channeled messages, which is their favored way of communicating with us (not our favored way), that they intend to bring in a global prosperity program once the Illuminati have been dislodged and prepare us for our global shift.

But the Illuminati have hidden the existence of the galactics and the galactics follow the universal laws which say that they cannot force themselves on us. So we’ve been in a stalemate as far as the Disclosure of the galactic presence around our planet has been concerned.

Now because lightworkers on the Internet, in discussion groups, and on conference circuits have said “no” to the continuation of the cover-up, it’s about to rapidly fall apart. Lightworkers stand now one day away from a meeting between terrestrials and extraterrestrials aboard the mothership, the Neptune, the flagship of President Grener of the Intergalactic Council.

As incredible as it sounds, this meeting has been brokered by an archangel, one known to us from his actions on behalf of our ancestors in the Bible and universally known for his other benevolent deeds, and that is Archangel Michael.

Though many raise their eyebrows that such a thing is possible, we lightworkers have now succeeded in bringing the matter of Disclosure to world attention. We’ve broken through the barriers to Disclosure. You who stand a day away from the meeting with extraterrestrials aboard their ships are the wayshowers and pathfinders of a new generation. You succeeded in doing what no other generation has been able to do so far – to break through the curtain of silence.

So I salute you and I ask that people visiting this site (The 2012 Scenario) not go away failing to see what you, what we all, are doing here. We’ve stood up to the dark forces. We’ve risked our lives, our fortunes, and our reputations to bring this matter of ET/UFO Disclosure before the public. We stand on the brink of succeeding in holding an epoch-making event, a rendezvous and meeting with people from other galactic civilizations.

Tomorrow history will be made and all of us here, those going and those holding the space for the rest of us, have had a hand in making it. The genie can never again be put back in the bottle. The secret is out. We are not alone in this universe. We share it with other human and non-human life forms, most ever more civilized and wiser than we are.

And we are about to open that new book and begin a new life as a global society. Nothing can stop us now. We’re bringing down the curtain on an old way of life and raising it on a new. Tomorrow the New Age starts and you have had a hand in starting it.

[Anchor]

Whatever happens, for all those involved, those going, those watching, those hoping this is real, those convinced it isn't; but especially for those that have taken this by the horns and stepped up to the plate for an opportunity to change themselves and the world for ever.

It is not blind stupidity to hope for the best at this point. There is always hope. This is now, and this is where the rubber may hit the road in a spectacular fashion - and I dont want to speculate until its done and we are dealing with the after effects - whatever they may be.

I know ET helpers are there, but in this case I don't know how this will go down, I know I want it to be true and that this is it, finally a massive truth placed in plain, non-government controlled view, and I want this to go down, because in my opinion it could change the world for the best.

So I don't know how this will go down, but I do know this: faith and belief are some of the biggest guns in our toolbox, and I think it is only right to wish those who are committed to the choices they have made and this "ride" to have the best outcome possible.

Bloody good luck mates!

May you all be blessed, guided and protected, by the light and the love of the one infinite creator; and may the support of all those that wish you and all of us, the highest and best outcome possible, be manifest now.

So say we all?

Let's hear it.

[bennycog]

so say we all anchor ...

[Billy]

Tomorrow history will be made and all of us here, those going and those holding the space for the rest of us, have had a hand in making it. The genie can never again be put back in the bottle. The secret is out. We are not alone in this universe. We share it with other human and non-human life forms, most ever more civilized and wiser than we are.


I would say today,
Does it matter if it is two scouts going for an hour or 150 people going for 10days. I look foreward in hearing back from the scouts who are allowed to take footage. That will do it for me, And i would say everyone else. Debunkers and all

[Anchor]

[There are currently 68 users browsing this thread. (24 members and 44 guests)]

LOL - 68 down, a few billion to go.

[cellardoor]

Is there a way to get automatic updates for the thread, i'm tiring of hitting the refresh button all the time.

[cellardoor]

Sorted I think.

[kersley]

@CELLARDOOR & RIA...
I'm expecting you both to be gone when I'm back from work this evening.. Or is it tomorrow(Saturday)?
I do hope this is true. If so we will wake up with a brand new attitude. a new dream. a new life.
it is frezzing out there but the sun is shinning like it was summer. what a beautiful and exciting day..

[Tony]

You are part of an experiment, or documentary. :boink:

[jaybee]

.

I hope all the guests are enjoying this little vignette.....LOL

;)

[RMorgan]

You are part of an experiment, or documentary. :boink:

Now that´s a real possibility indeed, Tony. :)

However, I still don´t agree with playing with people´s good faith and naivety for any end.

In my opinion, this is an experiment to see if a large group of people, strongly thinking and believing on traveling in an alien craft, could somehow physically manifest such event.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Eric J (Viking)]

In my opinion, this is an experiment to see if a large group of people, strongly thinking and believing on traveling in an alien craft, could somehow physically manifest such event.

Cheers,

Raf.

Certainly....Why not.

viking

[nf857]

I agree, i would love to go, if it were real, ive been housebound/bedbound with severe M.E./Fibromyalgia/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome for 8 years now, would be so nice to have a holiday and be healed from this awful disease x

[ktlight]

nf857, if it is real, I pray that they detour and collect you too.

[bennycog]

.

I hope all the guests are enjoying this little vignette.....LOL

;)

a vignette of avalon

strong, sensational'istic, unleashed, poetic, proud,
ravenous, insistent, spritually innovative and protective.

theres our scene.. the worlds our orchestra :) 'individually ofcourse'.. manifest at will..

[Anchor]

I agree, i would love to go, if it were real, ive been housebound/bedbound with severe M.E./Fibromyalgia/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome for 8 years now, would be so nice to have a holiday and be healed from this awful disease x

I read in a message a bit further back that you can ask them to heal you anyway. Can't hurt to try? Why not mentally ask "them" for healing tonight before you go to bed...

[cellardoor]

nf857, if it is real, I pray that they detour and collect you too.

By all accounts there are some people with illnesses due to be going. They have been promised healing, so if it is real nf8 please try your best to get on the next flight. I may be able to put a good word in for you;) Please don't hold your breath though, I'm still non the wiser that this is real so until then I will send you my light blessed bright spark of the creator.

[blufire]

Why is no one . . . . not even beckow, the aliens, mike, the people that are ‘going’ on this trip even remotely addressing the fact that if this (trip) were to happen or if/when disclosure does happen it would cause complete and utter chaos, pandemonium and rioting all over the earth. It would be disastrous probably for many years.

Before the free energy, healing centers, pristine earth and all the other ‘promises’ that are being made . . . .tens of thousands will die from all the chaos and fear.

There is no way around this . . . . it will happen if and when the aliens disclose their existence and involvement in our planet.

Etm you can’t even handle that limor doesn’t (in your opinion) use proper punctuation or perhaps may misspell a word, then how in the world (if this trip were to happen) are you going to handle being thrust into a global nightmare and spotlight.

We as a planet and as humanity are not even remotely ready for this . . . . . what even this is

[jackovesk]

Have some of you gone completely 'Bonkers' or are you just that 'Bored' and have nothing else better to do with your time..?

Before the 'Attacks' come, just think about what I said for a second..!

Rgs,

Jack

[jaybee]

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I hope all the guests are enjoying this little vignette.....LOL

;)

a vignette of avalon

strong, sensational'istic, unleashed, poetic, proud,
ravenous, insistent, spritually innovative and protective.


you forgot to add...'and heavily infiltrated'

which means guests and genuine members have to keep their wits about them at all times.

sad, I know...but that's how it is in Internet Land.

cheers


.

[cellardoor]

Why is no one . . . . not even beckow, the aliens, mike, the people that are ‘going’ on this trip even remotely addressing the fact that if this (trip) were to happen or if/when disclosure does happen it would cause complete and utter chaos, pandemonium and rioting all over the earth. It would be disastrous probably for many years.

Before the free energy, healing centers, pristine earth and all the other ‘promises’ that are being made . . . .tens of thousands will die from all the chaos and fear.

There is no way around this . . . . it will happen if and when the aliens disclose their existence and involvement in our planet.

Etm you can’t even handle that limor doesn’t (in your opinion) use proper punctuation or perhaps may misspell a word, then how in the world (if this trip were to happen) are you going to handle being thrust into a global nightmare and spotlight.

We as a planet and as humanity are not even remotely ready for this . . . . . what even this is

Well that's just a matter of opinion, one which I respectfully disagree with. I have faith in people, and there ability to handle truth. That is the philosophy here at Avalon and I wholeheartedly agree with it. It's up to the more educated enlightened souls to cushion the blow, but once they see how happy, and unafraid we are, I'm sure the outcome will be fine.

[Cognitive Dissident]

It is hard to believe that people really think that this trip will happen tomorrow, or spend a lot of time debating the what if.

Bottom line, these are extraordinary times. But such an event? Unlikely.

However let us see, and above all stay calm and don't rush into judgements or into spacecraft... better to sit down and have a nice cup of tea instead. And why not video that and put it on YouTube?

I also have a lot of respect for Steve Beckow. I hope he doesn't stop his public work when this event doesn't happen.

[joedjemal]

Why is no one . . . . not even beckow, the aliens, mike, the people that are ‘going’ on this trip even remotely addressing the fact that if this (trip) were to happen or if/when disclosure does happen it would cause complete and utter chaos, pandemonium and rioting all over the earth. It would be disastrous probably for many years.

Before the free energy, healing centers, pristine earth and all the other ‘promises’ that are being made . . . .tens of thousands will die from all the chaos and fear.

There is no way around this . . . . it will happen if and when the aliens disclose their existence and involvement in our planet.

Etm you can’t even handle that limor doesn’t (in your opinion) use proper punctuation or perhaps may misspell a word, then how in the world (if this trip were to happen) are you going to handle being thrust into a global nightmare and spotlight.

We as a planet and as humanity are not even remotely ready for this . . . . . what even this is

Dunno about that, looks like we're already facing chaos, rioting and pandemonium because of the collapse of the existing systems. Almost everybody I know believes there's something visiting us. I'm just not convinced yet by this channelling thing.

We'll know one way or another in about 7 hours and if nothing happens then for me it's bye bye gfl forever.

If something does happen I'd like a long chat with some of them. I really don't like the flavour of all these lords and masters. How does that suggest equality? Best take a close look I think.

[RMorgan]

Why is no one . . . . not even beckow, the aliens, mike, the people that are ‘going’ on this trip even remotely addressing the fact that if this (trip) were to happen or if/when disclosure does happen it would cause complete and utter chaos, pandemonium and rioting all over the earth. It would be disastrous probably for many years.

Before the free energy, healing centers, pristine earth and all the other ‘promises’ that are being made . . . .tens of thousands will die from all the chaos and fear.

There is no way around this . . . . it will happen if and when the aliens disclose their existence and involvement in our planet.

Etm you can’t even handle that limor doesn’t (in your opinion) use proper punctuation or perhaps may misspell a word, then how in the world (if this trip were to happen) are you going to handle being thrust into a global nightmare and spotlight.

We as a planet and as humanity are not even remotely ready for this . . . . . what even this is

Hey sister,

Well, you may be right, or not.

I´m not sure if such event would in fact provoke generalized chaos all over the world.

Every day, I get impressed on how (negatively) tolerant, resigned and passive the human being can be.

We´ve gone trough many absurd things, like world wars, every kind of disaster, atomic bomb attacks, economic crisis, genocide and many more terrible things, and, yet, the human race is always somehow ignoring reality and behaving "normally".

Also, anyway, we can´t forget that chaos is somewhat necessary in order to create order and harmony. Just like when we´re assembling a 3.000 pieces puzzle, we first shuffle all the pieces in order to, later, gradually put every single piece in the right place. Just like improving a house, sometimes you have to destroy to rebuild and improve.

This chaos situation, provoked by a major disclosure event, is, as far as I know, only a theory, and a very old one, by the way. It could be right, or it could be wrong. There are so many variables involved here...

Cheers,

Raf.

[Anchor]

Why is no one . . . . not even beckow, the aliens, mike, the people that are ‘going’ on this trip even remotely addressing the fact that if this (trip) were to happen or if/when disclosure does happen it would cause complete and utter chaos, pandemonium and rioting all over the earth. It would be disastrous probably for many years.

Maybe they don't agree with that assessment ?

Also...do you think 2012 wont be chaotic anyway? Surely you aware of the rapid paced changes going on in the world?

[Billy]

Why is no one . . . . not even beckow, the aliens, mike, the people that are ‘going’ on this trip even remotely addressing the fact that if this (trip) were to happen or if/when disclosure does happen it would cause complete and utter chaos, pandemonium and rioting all over the earth. It would be disastrous probably for many years.



We as a planet and as humanity are not even remotely ready for this . . . . . what even this is

This would be your very own fear based perspective and opinion Bluefire,

Have we not been living with a bit of pandemonium and chaos for a few hundred if not thousands of years now. nothing new there, First contact is going to happen sometime so why not now, Many are not ready but many are. And the ones who experience first contact i am sure will be there for those that are confused. I will not be going but i am surely going to be there to calm the storm. nothing like a good storm to clear the air.

Have no fear be prepared is all i can say.

[truth4me]

@ another bob - Venusians = Alpha Centauri renegades


Look familiar?

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or ...

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Btw, love your stuff -- you and Omnisense are what first hooked me on this site (PA). Thanks!

:yo:WOW! what ever that first one was on that 2:00 video was pretty awesome..........I think things are fixing to get interesting....

[Kimberley]

Why is no one . . . . not even beckow, the aliens, mike, the people that are ‘going’ on this trip even remotely addressing the fact that if this (trip) were to happen or if/when disclosure does happen it would cause complete and utter chaos, pandemonium and rioting all over the earth. It would be disastrous probably for many years.

Before the free energy, healing centers, pristine earth and all the other ‘promises’ that are being made . . . .tens of thousands will die from all the chaos and fear.

There is no way around this . . . . it will happen if and when the aliens disclose their existence and involvement in our planet.
We as a planet and as humanity are not even remotely ready for this . . . . . what even this is



Wow how interesting we have a similar concern for the people of the world however I see it happening in a different way... Isn't it great how we all do NOT see things in the same way!!!

"Why is no one . . . . not even beckow, the aliens, mike, the people that are ‘going’ on this trip even remotely addressing the fact that if this (trip) were to happen or if/when disclosure does happen it would cause complete joy and dancing and partying all over the earth. It would mean a non stop party probably for many years.

Before the free energy, healing centers, pristine earth and all the other ‘promises’ that are being made . . . .tens of thousands could die from all the partying and lack of sleep.

There is no way around this . . . . it will happen if and when the aliens disclose their existence and involvement in our planet. However I guess that is just a sacrifice we are going to have to deal with."

[mountain_jim]

Concerning Bekow's latest, I am reminded of the saying: "In for a penny, in for a pound."

Best wishes to Bekow and to you all taking this leap of faith. Or being 'Blossomed', however it turns out. :)

[cellardoor]

Concerning Bekow's latest, I am reminded of the saying: "In for a penny, in for a pound."

Best wishes to Bekow and to you all taking this leap of faith. Or being 'Blossomed', however it turns out. :)

LMAO! Jim. Being "Blossomed". Love it:) That word has to go in the dictionary if this thing fails

[Eric J (Viking)]

Ok ...thought i'd wait a while before I mentioned that I am on the list as well...I've been thinking the pros and cons of what might be, and whether this is genuine or not...

Well the way I see it is that we are the ones who can manifest this into reality...if we have been given the opportunity to decide with our consciousness, then this would be a pretty good way to test the waters, and in order to valuate our awareness and consciousness...after all we have the capability to create whatever we want.

If our thoughts are suppresed like they have been for eons and we channel our thoughts within the reality that has been presented to us from mainstream, then we most certainly will not be escaping the 'prison planet' , as our thoughts will be confined to tittle tattle daily orchestrated mechanical 3d reality.

Yes I know it sounds totally bananas and absurd to some, BUT you will never get to the higher realms with this conditioned mind set.

Anyway, so I have decided to embrace this vision fully and if this happens it will be the catalyst for huge HUGE change. I dont want to go into what could be, you only have to use your imagination.

If this is a test bed for future plannings than again I will embrace what I need to do.

In the meantime...

http://www.biblehelp.org/images/space%20ships.jpg

http://digitalseance.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/adamski3.gif

http://www.pickthebrain.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/meditate.jpg

viking

[cellardoor]

Welcome aboard Viking;)

[lindabaker]

Viking! Amazing! Awesome is an understatement! As we have been Avalon friends for a long long time, I am glad to see this happen for you. I see so few of the early members, and who would have thought I'd be the one to be here to witness your courage? May I tell others who have gone on to other forums? This is really blowing my gaskets this morning, OMG, Viking, you promise to send a message? Please? Linda

[Eric J (Viking)]

Viking! Amazing! Awesome is an understatement! As we have been Avalon friends for a long long time, I am glad to see this happen for you. I see so few of the early members, and who would have thought I'd be the one to be here to witness your courage? May I tell others who have gone on to other forums? This is really blowing my gaskets this morning, OMG, Viking, you promise to send a message? Please? Linda

Crack on Linda ...

Blessings

viking

[tonius]

Viking, it was nice knowing you....:heh:

Anyway, jokes apart, i wish you good luck.

[Mad Hatter]

Obviously some here are not backward in coming forward with your opinions, me included, but when these slide into derision about someones intelligence because of your pre conceived ideas that writing style regarding punctuation, spelling, spaces, commas etc. are somehow a measure or reflection of someones IQ then I'm here to point out that you may want to reflect on the fact English may not be that persons first, second or third language for that matter. A display of such arrogance on an international forum could lead some to assume your own IQ is no bigger that your boot size... just sayin

In the event that this proposal eventuates I would like to know, before hand if possible, via those in contact if the ship to be used for the joy ride(s) is driven by a Zero Point Energy based propulsion system since recent research I have come across seems to imply that use of this technology for providing said joy rides would be frowned upon in certain circles due to potential ecological impacts it can have on the universe as a whole let alone the localised impact on our Sun when viewed in terms of E = Delta T x C squared.

PS On the record for those going, you do not have my consent (nor that of any member of my family) to negotiate anything with any entity on behalf of me or my family.

[RMorgan]

PS On the record for those going, you do not have my consent (nor that of any member of my family) to negotiate anything with any entity on behalf of me or my family.

That´s a good point, my friend. I agree with you 100%.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Billy]

Therefore todays update is that we have 4 Avalonions partaking on the venture, Cellardoor, Ria, ETM and Viking. :clap2: Nothing ventured nothing gained, Or how some say in Scotland, Nothing Gained nothing lost.

All the best guys, And may the force be with you all.

EDIT: it must be near the hour for the scouts to head out?

[Eric J (Viking)]

PS On the record for those going, you do not have my consent (nor that of any member of my family) to negotiate anything with any entity on behalf of me or my family.

That´s a good point, my friend. I agree with you 100%.

Cheers,

Raf.

Thats fine.

I wouldn't dream of it. ;-)

viking

[gooty64]

Hey, to the Avalon four -part of the Galactic 120, best wishes and safe travels.

Please forgive my sarcastic side from earlier posts. I support this venture and wish you only well!

rLCk066o9sU

[schneider]

i had a feeling you had a ticket, viking. bon voyage to the 4 brave and fearless avalonians leaving on the greatest journey of their lives. send lots of pictures and enjoy your travels. :dance:

[Seikou-Kishi]

Cellardoor,you and I ,we are the likes.we share the same hopes,we wish for the same goals,we have pretty much similar aspirations.In a way,I find your naivety charming.no disrespect intended.You claim to have made your homework,yet,at the same time you say that 'they' have changed the timeline on earth,well,they did not.we did.please think long and hard if the concerned voices around here are giving our responses the way we do because of fear or negativity or because of holding a more full perspective. There is lots of good out there,and there is also the usual playing interests,just as we have here. I will not tell you what to think,or how to act,but I do say outloud that I have expected from Avalon members a much more rational and mind critical assesment on any information being thrown at us at this time.my bad.

Yes, that's it. You're saying all the negative things you are saying because you hold "a more full perspective." Cellardoor's naivete is charming? You are downright insulting. You know more, right? You are smarter, better informed? Well, I say maybe you are not. Maybe you think you know more, and you do not. That is why we say people are entitled to their own opinions. You don't even know me. Why should I believe you have more knowledge, when you can't even put spaces after your commas, or spell? Geesh....

Personally, I find your assessment downright irrational and limited, of the knee-jerk variety, not real critical thinking at all. Or when it comes to the critical thinking part, I find your assessments rather lacking in depth. But then, that is just MY opinion, which obviously is very different from yours. And we are both entitled to have them.

But then I also am very irritated when reading your posts because you won't use the spacebar for some reason, or write in sentences, which makes it physically more difficult for me to actually discern what you are trying to say. What does that say about your critical thinking abilities, when supposedly you are attempting to communicate to people halfway around the world?

ETM

We can all express ourselves without getting hostile. Limor said "no disrespect" and tried to frame her comments in a respectful manner. Her comments were surrounded by lexical hedging to help take any sting out of her comments, while yours seemed to me to be out-right confrontational. You pick apart Limor's punctuation but apparently have no respect for the fact that she is communicating in a language that is not her mother tongue. We should love to speak her language as well as she speaks ours :-(

[cellardoor]

PS On the record for those going, you do not have my consent (nor that of any member of my family) to negotiate anything with any entity on behalf of me or my family.

This is a matter of utmost importance. You have my word that if anyone tries anything of the sort I will blow the whistle on this whole thing, absolutely no one person or group should do any negotiating. This is strictly an introduction. And I'm sure the council feel the same way. As far as I'm concerned it is forbidden. I hope that helps put your mind at rest. I'd be glad to inquire about your question though.

Much love

Cellardoor

[ViralSpiral]

Ok ...thought i'd wait a while before I mentioned that I am on the list as well..

Can I have your bank account details please?

http://www.millerfilm.com/spacelinks/wink_emoticon.bmp

Good luck everyone.

See you in the ethers.




p.s. I'm with Kimberley. Where focus goes, energy flows. If we are to be the change we want to see, we need to move beyond fear.
I understand that there will be chaos. Will we ever be ready?

[Mad Hatter]

PS On the record for those going, you do not have my consent (nor that of any member of my family) to negotiate anything with any entity on behalf of me or my family.

This is a matter of utmost importance. You have my word that if anyone tries anything of the sort I will blow the whistle on this whole thing, absolutely no one person or group should do any negotiating. This is strictly an introduction. And I'm sure the council feel the same way. As far as I'm concerned it is forbidden. I hope that helps put your mind at rest. I'd be glad to inquire about your question though.

Much love

Cellardoor

Thank you for that. I wish you and all participating in what may well be one of mankinds greatest historical moments the best of luck.

[Deega]

Cellardoor, Ria, ETM and Viking, all the best to you, and I pray that this Trip happens!

Early in this Tread, I send all the best wishes to you all participating, but there is one thing that we Avalonians need to do. We need to focus our intention for this event to occur, prior to the presume departure, I would be willing to meditate, sending caring vibrations to all of you, and also to the group of ET participating, if we could do the same altogether, this would have a stronger loving push, are we ready to give a hand here to our fellow Avalonians?

I feel that this is important because of this, who stand to lose if this goes through? The PTB, the Financial World and probably some lower races of ET. Right now, they know that this event is communicated in Avalon and “The 2012 Scenario Web Site”, “The Council of Love” and others that I’m not aware of. So, IMHO, they might react such that event don’t happened! Then our sending caring vibrations, sending protecting shield to our Avalon friends and Gener would surely be helpful.

Cellardoor, Ria, ETM and Viking, do you know the time of departure? From that information, how about, a group of Avalon members send protection shield for the incoming craft and our Avalon friends!, we do care about our fellow Avalonian, may we work together on this, please state your intention to do this tomorrow an hour before departure. Or maybe, you have a better way to help here, please share!

All the best to you.

Deega

[cellardoor]

Cellardoor, Ria, ETM and Viking, all the best to you, and I pray that this Trip happens!

Early in this Tread, I send all the best wishes to you all participating, but there is one thing that we Avalonians need to do. We need to focus our intention for this event to occur, prior to the presume departure, I would be willing to meditate, sending caring vibrations to all of you, and also to the group of ET participating, if we could do the same altogether, this would have a stronger loving push, are we ready to give a hand here to our fellow Avalonians?

I feel that this is important because of this, who stand to lose if this goes through? The PTB, the Financial World and probably some lower races of ET. Right now, they know that this event is communicated in Avalon and “The 2012 Scenario Web Site”, “The Council of Love” and others that I’m not aware of. So, IMHO, they might react such that event don’t happened! Then our sending caring vibrations, sending protecting shield to our Avalon friends and Gener would surely be helpful.

Cellardoor, Ria, ETM and Viking, do you know the time of departure? From that information, how about, a group of Avalon members send protection shield for the incoming craft and our Avalon friends!, we do care about our fellow Avalonian, may we work together on this, please state your intention to do this tomorrow an hour before departure. Or maybe, you have a better way to help here, please share!

All the best to you.

Deega

Deega that is such a wonderful request, bless you a thousand times! Thank you so much. I 100% believe this could have a massive effect. The Maharishi effect is well documented and extremely beneficial to the cause.

Times of departure are unknown that's in the hands of the ET although I have made a mental request that I hope was picked up on. I do know that we won't all be going at the same time though.

xxx

[bodhii71]

This, is by far the most interesting thread I've ever read on the internet, lol.
The enlightenment threads a close second.
I'm ready for a new paradigm.
Good luck, and send some messages to the forum when time permits.

[David Trd1]

[takes a bite then passes popcorn......]

[jackovesk]

Ok ...thought i'd wait a while before I mentioned that I am on the list as well...I've been thinking the pros and cons of what might be, and whether this is genuine or not...

Well the way I see it is that we are the ones who can manifest this into reality...if we have been given the opportunity to decide with our consciousness, then this would be a pretty good way to test the waters, and in order to valuate our awareness and consciousness...after all we have the capability to create whatever we want.

If our thoughts are suppresed like they have been for eons and we channel our thoughts within the reality that has been presented to us from mainstream, then we most certainly will not be escaping the 'prison planet' , as our thoughts will be confined to tittle tattle daily orchestrated mechanical 3d reality.

Yes I know it sounds totally bananas and absurd to some, BUT you will never get to the higher realms with this conditioned mind set.

Anyway, so I have decided to embrace this vision fully and if this happens it will be the catalyst for huge HUGE change. I dont want to go into what could be, you only have to use your imagination.

If this is a test bed for future plannings than again I will embrace what I need to do.

In the meantime...

http://www.biblehelp.org/images/space%20ships.jpg

http://digitalseance.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/adamski3.gif

http://www.pickthebrain.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/meditate.jpg

viking

Bon Voyage (Viking) my Space Brother,

Make sure to let them know about the rest of us Avalonians...

Equally - If by some 'Miracle' this Adventure/Manifestation does'nt eventuate as planned..?

...and your still here on 3D - Prison Planet..!

Whatever you do, tell us the 'TRUTH' or I'll sic Auntie Jack onto you..! :pound:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnEOr1MgwTM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnEOr1MgwTM

[Eric J (Viking)]

LOL ...Thanks Jacko...

The 'truth' is all I'm looking for so humanity can be set free.

edit....heres one for you Jacko...great words>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>turn the volume up!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2-blWgVk-A

viking

[lindabaker]

Viking: a message from Floyd:

"Ask him are they entitled to duty free goods whilst on board and if so to get me a bottle of single malt. Ta."

[Little Ishta]

Has anyone realized that today is the day that Neptune enters Pisces? And its staying there for the next 14 years? Funny how this coincides with this trip to Neptune.;)

[cellardoor]

Has anyone realized that today is the day that Neptune enters Pisces? And its staying there for the next 14 years? Funny how this coincides with this trip to Neptune.;)

is that really true? Now that would be a coincidence!

[lindabaker]

Little Ishta, I was thinking the same thing...Pisces, yoo hoo, what a concept!

[Little Ishta]

Has anyone realized that today is the day that Neptune enters Pisces? And its staying there for the next 14 years? Funny how this coincides with this trip to Neptune.;)

is that really true? Now that would be a coincidence!

Yes it is true!
“Neptune begins its 15 year transit of Pisces on February 3, 11:03 am PST, 7:03 pm Greenwich." LOL I thought it was 14 yrs.... make that 15 years. I stand corrected.

Here's the link where I got the little quote from
http://www.mysticmamma.com/neptune-in-pisces-2012-new-14-year-cycle-begins-february-3-2012/

[cellardoor]

Has anyone realized that today is the day that Neptune enters Pisces? And its staying there for the next 14 years? Funny how this coincides with this trip to Neptune.;)

is that really true? Now that would be a coincidence!

Yes it is true!
“Neptune begins its 15 year transit of Pisces on February 3, 11:03 am PST, 7:03 pm Greenwich." LOL I thought it was 14 yrs.... make that 15 years. I stand corrected.

Well I'll be damned, I'm not to good with this subject so correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't pisces have a connection to christ, the symbol of a fish, the walking on water, turning water to wine so on so forth.... I might be barking up the wrong tree so forgive me if I wrong.

xxx

[Kimberley]

http://aquariansolutions.blogspot.com/2012/01/neptune-into-pisces-no-boundaries.html



It seems as if people have been on edge, waiting for something big to happen since 2011. The excitement has been growing since January 23rd. the day of the Aquarian New Moon and the commencement of the year of the Water Dragon. It is no secret that Neptune, the archetype of transcendence, dissolution and wild imagination will be enter Pisces his home sign on Feb. 3, 2012. This is only an introductory article to set the stage, more will follow in the next few days. After all the qualities and things relating to Neptune range from abdications to alien to adultery to angelic entities to boats of all kinds to clairvoyance to divination to mediums to melodramas to paranoia to ports to religions attitudes to sleeping disorders to theurgies to wizards to zeniths.

Timeline: last year on April 4, 2011 Neptune made a brief appearance in Pisces till Aug. 4th. 2011. Yes this giant gas planet ruling dreams, hallucinations, heightened sensitivity, altered states and the paranormal among a few states. Neptune the planet is huge being 17 times the mass of Earth and with an orbital period of 164.79 years. In astrological terms, Neptune signifies he strange or weird and with 12 Moons and severe weather patterns this makes sense. These weather anomalies are driven by the strongest sustained winds of any planet in the Solar System, with recorded wind speeds as high as 2,100 km/ Neptune who is god of water and the sea in Roman Mythology is connected to the symbols of the Trident, Fish, Dolphin, Horse and Bull. Poseidon in Greek Mythos. Poseidon was known as an "Earth-Shaker" In his benign aspect, Poseidon was supposedly able to create new islands and offering calm seas. When he became angry from being offended or ignored, he struck the ground with his trident and caused chaotic springs, earthquakes, drownings and massive shipwrecks. In fact we are seeing the water theme proliferating or should we say flowing? We are hearing about aquataxis, interviews with with Occupy Oakland Lake Merritt Aquapiers, water taxis for visitors to the America's Cup or wild theories about the USS Enterprise heading to the False Flag?
Finally all the waiting is over, Neptune will enter Pisces, his home sign for a 14+ year stay on Feb. 3, 2012. Neptune stays in Pisces till January 26, 2026 when the next stop is Aries. On that day there is also a grand earth trine forming. This will be the first long journey since Feb. 17, 1948.
Chart below is set for Greenwhich UK @ 7:04 PM UT, when Neptune enters Pisces:
Virgo is rising @ 8 degrees 26 with this appropriate Sabian Symbol: "A man making a futuristic drawing." The Ascendant is opposing Neptune-Chiron-Vesta in Pisces as the Virgo analysts leave their skepticism at the door. Mercury the ruler of this ingress chart is in Aquarius moving toward the Sun reflecting a major news announcement.

[joedjemal]

Has anyone realized that today is the day that Neptune enters Pisces? And its staying there for the next 14 years? Funny how this coincides with this trip to Neptune.;)

is that really true? Now that would be a coincidence!

Yes it is true!
“Neptune begins its 15 year transit of Pisces on February 3, 11:03 am PST, 7:03 pm Greenwich." LOL I thought it was 14 yrs.... make that 15 years. I stand corrected.

Here's the link where I got the little quote from
http://www.mysticmamma.com/neptune-in-pisces-2012-new-14-year-cycle-begins-february-3-2012/

That's almost exactly the time when the two scouts are supposed to leave

[cellardoor]

Has anyone realized that today is the day that Neptune enters Pisces? And its staying there for the next 14 years? Funny how this coincides with this trip to Neptune.;)

is that really true? Now that would be a coincidence!

Yes it is true!
“Neptune begins its 15 year transit of Pisces on February 3, 11:03 am PST, 7:03 pm Greenwich." LOL I thought it was 14 yrs.... make that 15 years. I stand corrected.

Here's the link where I got the little quote from
http://www.mysticmamma.com/neptune-in-pisces-2012-new-14-year-cycle-begins-february-3-2012/

That's almost exactly the time when the two scouts are supposed to leave

That is just Weird!!!

[ViralSpiral]

Space travelers, you may need a copy of this


http://www.bookcollections.co.uk/i/restaurant-end-universe.jpg


Wooohooo!
Bon voyage!

http://www.brothersinhonour.com/images/smilies/smiley_hosanna.gif

[Little Ishta]

Has anyone realized that today is the day that Neptune enters Pisces? And its staying there for the next 14 years? Funny how this coincides with this trip to Neptune.;)

is that really true? Now that would be a coincidence!

Yes it is true!
“Neptune begins its 15 year transit of Pisces on February 3, 11:03 am PST, 7:03 pm Greenwich." LOL I thought it was 14 yrs.... make that 15 years. I stand corrected.

Here's the link where I got the little quote from
http://www.mysticmamma.com/neptune-in-pisces-2012-new-14-year-cycle-begins-february-3-2012/

That's almost exactly the time when the two scouts are supposed to leave

:jaw: How interesting :rapture:

[mountain_jim]

I was aware of the Neptune significance of this date, thanks to the thread and links that Carmody provided a few days ago - and the fact that I am a Pisces supposedly makes this time even more intense. (Though I am sure not nearly as intense as for those with the 'tickets' in this thread) :)

later edit: thread mentioned above

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38950-The-mechanistic-aspects-fundamentals-of-Astrology




http://deniselefay.wordpress.com/201...etary-motions/

Notice that Neptune enters Pisces on February 3, 2012 (until April 2025). This is a very important energetic and consciousness shift in 2012 for everyone, but especially so if your Sun is in Pisces, or if you’ve got Pisces Rising (ASC), or have a Virgo Sun, or Virgo Rising. This sign change by Neptune—along with the final Saturn in Libra retrograde period from February 7 – June 22, 2012—is an important phase for everyone in 2012 with resolving duality in ourselves and becoming integrated, unified individually (Saturn in Libra retrograde). Neptune in Pisces will be helping each of us perceive, feel, see, experience and know Source/The All That Is and our Higher Selves in direct, personal and intimate ways; absolutely no religious or spiritual middlemen (priests, pastors, fathers, gurus, shamans, masters, healers etc.) required for us to make this direct mystical connection consciously.

During 2012 many of us will exit the old 3D system of 12 and enter the new 5D system of 13 where we are consciously aware of the fact that we are aspects of Source/The All That Is and we have an increasingly conscious working relationship with our Higher Selves and need no one to interpret or define reality for us.

[Billy]

73qNW12Yx_0


Didn't know what time it was, the lights were low
I leaned back on my radio
Some cat was layin' down some rock'n'roll lotta soul, he said
Then the loud sound did seem to fade
Came back like a slow voice on a wave of phase
That weren't no D.J. that was hazy cosmic jive

CHORUS
There's a starman waiting in the sky
He'd like to come and meet us
But he thinks he'd blow our minds
There's a starman waiting in the sky
He told us not to blow it
'Cause he knows it's all worthwhile
He told me:
Let the children lose it
Let the children use it
Let all the children boogie

I had to phone someone so I picked on you
Hey, that's far out so you heard him too!
Switch on the TV we may pick him up on channel two
Look out your window I can see his light
If we can sparkle he may land tonight
Don't tell your poppa or he'll get us locked up in fright

[Mightyram]

For all of those who fingers crossed are hopefully about to embark on the journey of a life time, we solute you.
No matter what happens, this thread has been one of the most interesting reads of my life so far and surely every single member on here would give almost anything to swap places with the select few,but it's surely not about WHO goes but about the message they tell to humanity upon their safe return.Good luck to you all.........:cool:

[aranuk]

I'm excited by the build up going here. When should we hear from the two scouts? About 8pm Greenwich in UK? I really can't wait an hour so I'm going to have a nap. I hope I hear good tidings when I return here.

Stan

[Billy]

I'm excited by the build up going here. When should we hear from the two scouts? About 8pm Greenwich in UK? I really can't wait an hour so I'm going to have a nap. I hope I hear good tidings when I return here.

Stan

A wee siesta for Steve,
Yes i am thinkng about the scouts also, It is to be all completed by midday today, and now it is after 7pm GMT, Therefore in their timezone they should at least be onboard now. I hope all is fine and dandy.

Any updates

[Maia Gabrial]

How were these people chosen?

[woodshreder]

According to the instructions on SB 2012 site Everyone will be picked up in a black limo on Sat the 4th ..We know its Sat in Australia, Any sign of black limos pulling into driveways there ?...Seems as though there should be someone willing to post they are being picked up before they leave ...

[mojo]

I wanted to see if there was any activity in the skies recently that might be part of the preparations to pick people up. This was filmed in Germany yesterday.
R_s099gVkAk

edit: Here is the analyzed and slowed version;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JGU0U1kjuM

[joedjemal]

Well, according to the site the scouts were supposed to be back by now, no word yet.

[joedjemal]

I wanted to see if there was any activity in the skies recently that might be part of the preparations to pick people up. This was filmed in Germany yesterday.
R_s099gVkAk
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edit: Here is the analyzed and slowed version;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JGU0U1kjuM

I think those are aircraft with their landing lights on you can make it out in the small window on the analysed one.

[Billy]

Lucy in the sky with diamonds takes on a new meaning now.

[cellardoor]

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTN-KkA0OsVtvMXZMRzw1yuPGA4_E4CEp6ZgPs6j9Tq6Z2v1G0F1A

[DarMar]

How were these people chosen?

it writes all of it in this post but this is my personal view:

first you get brainwashed than you apply by yourself ... that easy

[Wind]

Is this a joke?

[Billy]

A wee message from Greg Giles about saturday's trip here. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39952-Saturday-s-Joyride-Greg-Giles-February-3-2012

EDIT

It seems this is Greg's own thoughts, and not channeled, so i will post part here.

So many today are now debating on whether or not Saturday's joyride will actually take place. There are those that want a clear answer to this question and require proof that this event will happen. They try to analyze and calculate any evidence that may lead them to the answer to this question, though again, their left brains will surely disappoint.

There are others, the dreamers, the intuits, who believe this event will take place, they feel it, and are already making plans to be a part of the next cosmic field trip. Archangel Michael urges us to end our debating between ourselves and unite as one.

To come together and join these two seemingly opposing sides of our collective and strengthen our bond as the one we truly are. One living organism-one brain. We must bridge the gap between these two seemingly opposing sides of ourselves just as we must bridge the gap between the left and right hemispheres of our brain. As above-so below.

We must now come together as one and focus our divine powers of manifestation and create this event, not bicker and argue about whether it will happen or not. We have the ability to make Saturday one of the most significant days in the history of our planet. We have the power to do this.

Here here :clap2:

[cellardoor]

I love you all by the way. And even though I've been quite ill over the last few days, this has given me the fantastic opportunity to spend some time with the folks here, who I admire greatly for there open mindedness, and their grace for allowing this to play out so amicably. The best thing I think I've learnt about being a light worker is acceptance, and holding the space. Those are the things I will take with me what ever happens. So thank you all. See ya on the other side;)

[joedjemal]

A wee message from Greg Giles about saturday's trip here. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39952-Saturday-s-Joyride-Greg-Giles-February-3-2012

"Potential to manifest"?

It is, or it is not. They exist and are coming or they do not.

I've been watching all those hopeful people in the yahoo group chatroom cheerfully waiting for this to happen.

It was said that the takeoff was going to be photographed and published. That was supposed to be a couple of hours ago.

I have a feeling that this is going to be another bust for the gfl etc. Give it another hour or two. The site staff member in the chatroom said that galactics don't keep time like we do. Don't see how you can run a technological civilisation if you can't keep appointments but let's give it a bit longer.

[mountain_jim]

from the extended quote at the link (more there than what appears above)


it is about reclaiming our divine powers of unlimited manifestation.

[S-L]

It looks like it's not happening. But even if it did, a question: would this be a good thing? How do you know you can trust them? It's like native americans climbing aboard Columbus' ship and going back to Britain... well, would the British do this to help them, or for their own self-interest?

Why are people so (rightly) suspicious of governments and their ilk, and yet seem to trust Aliens so easily?

[Eric J (Viking)]

http://the2012scenario.com/2012/02/its-the-final-countdown/#more-93909

It’s the Final Countdown....

As I write this, it is the wee hours on Saturday morning here in Australia.

The anticipation is building. Serendipitous signs and synchronicities have been flowing steadily and fluidly since yesterday. The usual sightings of my favourite numbers 44 and 444 have been everywhere – TV commercials, car licence plate numbers, building numbers – ever so fleetingly, you’d miss them if you blinked.

Yes, in a few hours, I may be among the first worldbridgers to be escorted to a grand galactic reunion.

Can I contain myself? Just barely – but in another sense, energetically? Absolutely!

If you read Steve’s last post on “The Monumental Act …., you will know that the 2012 Scenario site reached an all time high of 80,000 hits yesterday – for the first time ever. I won’t re-hash what he wrote, but these are certainly exciting times!

Equally important is how we ALL come together, elevating our vibrational levels of consciousness and love. We are no longer novice fringe dwellers, standing at the edge of the event horizon. We have donned our 5D bio suits and are now on the precipice of being fully fledged epic explorers weaving our own unique brand of magic into our every day existence as galactic citizens.

We have stepped up to the plate as multi-dimensional beings seeded here on Earth with a mission – whatever that may be. Some write, some paint, some sing, some heal, and some need only smile radiating their soul essence in this wonderful kaleidoscope of community. We come together, reflecting each other’s sparkle and brilliance!

These are momentous times indeed. The quickening and awakening is happening in super quantum ‘time’. You are either on board .. or not. You have either heard the clarion call .. or you have not. We have all chosen to be here on Earth at this time. Whether or not we remember the reason why is not so important – as following the call of our soul, our highest personal source code.

Somewhere in that divine act of remembering is a grace bestowed upon all of us. A sacred covenant that can never be broken – perhaps forgotten, but we only need dust away the cobwebs of etheric veiled memories to reveal the splendour and glory of who we all are. We are all a part of a fractal tapestry of Bliss and Divinity.

Whether or not this maiden voyage happens or not – and it WILL (either way, now or later) – if we ALL maintain diligence and consciously hold the energetic resonance of the highest outcome for all, this will be a huge achievement. We are setting the precedent for action. It is time to drop the old 3D paradigm like a dirty rag or a cheating partner .. and embrace a brave new empowered world of vigour and veracity, of integrity and authenticity, of guts and fortitude.

Your role in this is paramount. YOU and your participation are a valued and integral part of this movement. In the past few days, we have been inundated with so much love and support (as well as ridicule) for stepping up beside us and we encourage you to continue to hold the space in the next few hours by keeping your energies high and your vibrations open to love. AAM said the ONLY thing impeding this mission is human doubt. How we individually and collectively handle this will determine the outcome of the mission. The majority must be in strong conviction that we are all poised for success or else it could hamper our overall efforts.

Grener, AAM and the galactics are quite possibly tuned in to see how we are doing as a collective spirit. They are most likely assessing whether or not humanity can actually cope with Disclosure. YOUR efforts are needed in order for this to truly manifest and transpire. Do what you feel needs to be done. Clear the space. Set the intention. Chant. Sing. Smudge. Dance. Meditate.

Are we ready? Yes! We are more than ready. The team here are on standby. We are all frequency conduits – we either accelerate the process or inhibit it by our thoughts and vibrations. If you were not confirmed for the first voyage, please do not be disheartened. Remember there will be other flights. Your current vibrational homeostasis is imperative right now for this mission. The entire light worker community can no longer appear fragmented or divided. As co-creators and manifestors, we have the perfect opportunity to show our galactic brethren that we are all united. We are all One. We have the ability to share in each other’s joy and successes.

You have the power to sway the balance. One person CAN make a difference to the collective efforts. Never underestimate your ability to do so. The group collective consciousness is an energy field which aids in ascension. The amplification of your intent and energies, whether or not you are on the list, will make incredible headway for us all. We suggest monitoring your levels of energy and vibration carefully with impeccable compassion and faith in the next few hours to ensure it is alignment with our goal.

Yes, there has been much controversy behind the scenes – we all have free will and are entitled to our own opinions, so let’s respect each other differing views and points of difference and steer clear from the petty squabbles and intellectual diatribes, which run fierce in a 3D world. If your current reality prevents you from paving an alternative route out of this matrix and 3D complex, do not interrupt those trying to do so. Nothing changes at the same level of thinking or paradigm in which it was created. The new earth is an energetic zip code in our hearts. The sooner we all open up and let each other in by embracing courage in the face of adversity .. the faster we move into a glorious expansion of multidimensional realities.

If we fall, we will pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off and try again. A baby doesn’t give up the first time it falls when learning to first walk. It stumbles many times. Einstein did not stop after his 100th failed attempt. Evolution happens in quantum leaps and bounds. You may call us names, attack our reputation – but it will say more about your character than it does about our faith, determination and commitment. Once any of us hold a strong belief in any thing, there comes a time when we will be sorely tested to stand true in defence of this belief, with every conviction in our heart and soul, in the face of adversity and against all odds.

I ask you to look deep inside your hearts, to support the underdog, not with your harsh levels of criticism and conjecture, but to appeal to your discerning senses and to sincerely wish everyone a blazing path to success and infinite wisdom.

This is in your hands, just as much as it is in ours and our star brothers and sisters. They are just as eager to play and share with us as we all were, back in kindergarten. We need to be able to meet each other half way – this means in intent, vibration and action. Each and every single one of us are catalysts of transformation. How you ‘show up’ to support yourself, each other and this global galactic community reveals the Soul that you are.

YOU are divine delegates in possession of a treasure trove of infinite intelligence.

It is time to claim your place as a galactic citizen in this vast galaxy.

I’ll see you on the cosmic dance floor at the homecoming dance!

~~~~~~~~

viking

[Wind]

Of course it would be a nice thing to happen, but some aspects of the message resemble too much the whole "rapture" thingy. Why would only 100 people get "invited"? Now I do believe that some kind of ascension does happen at the end of this year or the beginning of 2013 (you may call naive and I'm proud of it! : ), but this seems just too good to be true. I witnessed the whole Blossom Goodchild-event many years back and it was a major letdown for many people and it left an impact of pessimism to many people.

Now I don't say that this message might not be genuine, but quite often the channeled messages are mixed with the ego of the channeler and that has many times lead to disappointment. But I do want to believe, I really do. However, the only true source that I have ever trusted is Ra channeled through Carla Rueckert. She never got her ego mixed with the channelings and everything that Ra says is pure fact and David Wilcock can confirm this.

[D-Day]

It looks like it's not happening. But even if it did, a question: would this be a good thing? How do you know you can trust them? It's like native americans climbing aboard Columbus' ship and going back to Britain... well, would the British do this to help them, or for their own self-interest?

Why are people so (rightly) suspicious of governments and their ilk, and yet seem to trust Aliens so easily?

Good points.

For me, the following words immediately spring to mind... psy-ops, propaganda, programming, brainwashing, mind control, manipulation, deception, alterior motive, agenda, discernment.

Make of that what you will.

[gripreaper]

"Through Miss Zepeda, Archangel Michael advises us that Saturday’s ‘Joy Ride’, as it has become known, does have the potential to manifest dependant on our collective, as well as individual consciousness. "

http://ascensionearth2012.blogspot.com/2012/02/saturdays-joyride.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AscensionEarth2012+%28Ascension+Earth+2012%29

Oh, ok. If your intention isn't strong enough and focused enough, then it wont go off. So, it's ya'll fault because you did not have a strong enough resolve to make it happen. Thanks Archangel Micheal, the divine being from the 13th dimension for putting that disclaimer in for us.

Who woulda thunk that us powerful beings couldn't get enough moxi together to pull it off?

[Billy]

So today at midday two scouts will be having a quick pre trip. Cool. Midday in what timezone will that be. 11.11 am GMT here now :-) can someone confirm later that this has happened ?


All right. Here is another request: Will you allow someone from, well someone, to come to your ship today or tomorrow as a scout, to be able to go there and say, “I saw the Neptune, I am back here, it is real,” etc., so that those people among our readers and listeners who won’t believe it until they hear that kind of report can be reassured, … but also, to give reassurance to the people who are going to be cancelling appointments and cancelling work shifts in order to be on this the trip, they will then know by today or tomorrow that this is real, someone has seen the ship, and they will have reassurance that they can cancel their work shifts…

G: You are, you are repeating what Linda has said to me. (laughter) And yes, because it is an act of faith to cancel appointments to cancel responsibilities and commitments, and we understand that. We absolutely understand that.

Who are you nominating?

SB: Well, uh, I have two people whom I could nominate: One has just turned on his microphone; the other, though I’d hate to miss her, is BZ.

G: We will accept these two. And then, if this does not occur, you will know not that this is a farce, but that we need to re-plan this. But no, we will accept this, and we will do it within the next day, so that people have, and when we say day, we mean by the end of … well, you are already in the middle of your Thursday, by midday Friday.

G: Yes.

SB: So, I will tell people to cancel their appointments Friday afternoon. So, let me just get this straight. So, you will take both BZ and Dave…is that correct?

Right thats it, If you see Grener tomorrow can someone give him an earthly timepiece for a gift, with an alarm clock. :clock:

[DreamsInDigital]

According to the instructions on SB 2012 site Everyone will be picked up in a black limo on Sat the 4th ..We know its Sat in Australia, Any sign of black limos pulling into driveways there ?...Seems as though there should be someone willing to post they are being picked up before they leave ...
A black Limo? Last I checked.....Off Worlders don't drive or ride in Black Limos....nor do races collectively travel in ONE ship, they hold meetings on ONE ship...but don't travel collectively. And, why still is it being ignored that Planet Neptune isn't even inhabited by a Space Faring Intelligent Race?

[joedjemal]

As far as I'm concerned if they can be prevented from doing what they promised by doubt then they don't exist.

Spiritual growth is about discipline and learning and hard work not spaceships carrying archangels.

Time to forget about channelers and get back to my garden and meditation I think.

I feel sorry for the people who got invited and for Steve as well I think.

This looks like manipulation to me, can't say who caused it but a lot of people on a spiritual path will have been put off by it and qui bono?

The controllers.

[woodshreder]

According to the instructions on SB 2012 site Everyone will be picked up in a black limo on Sat the 4th ..We know its Sat in Australia, Any sign of black limos pulling into driveways there ?...Seems as though there should be someone willing to post they are being picked up before they leave ...
A black Limo? Last I checked.....Off Worlders don't drive or ride in Black Limos....nor do races collectively travel in ONE ship, they hold meetings on ONE ship...but don't travel collectively. And, why still is it being ignored that Planet Neptune isn't even inhabited by a Space Faring Intelligent Race?


Don't shoot the messenger

Saturday (Feb. 11), as some of you believe.

The galactics will come some time on Saturday, usually at the time you decide but not absolutely always. They will pick you up (believe it or not) in a black limousine.

For Australians, for whom our today is your tomorrow, AAM says that you will be picked up on your Saturday, which will be our Friday. So for everyone it is Saturday, Feb. 4.

[Anchor]

For me, the following words immediately spring to mind... psy-ops, propaganda, programming, brainwashing, mind control, manipulation, deception, alterior motive, agenda, discernment.

You do realize that this cuts both ways don't you ?

[D-Day]

For me, the following words immediately spring to mind... psy-ops, propaganda, programming, brainwashing, mind control, manipulation, deception, alterior motive, agenda, discernment.

You do realize that this cuts both ways don't you ?

Of course.
But I think it all depends on how one is viewing the situation.
Perhaps both sides are playing for the same team.?

[DreamsInDigital]

According to the instructions on SB 2012 site Everyone will be picked up in a black limo on Sat the 4th ..We know its Sat in Australia, Any sign of black limos pulling into driveways there ?...Seems as though there should be someone willing to post they are being picked up before they leave ...
A black Limo? Last I checked.....Off Worlders don't drive or ride in Black Limos....nor do races collectively travel in ONE ship, they hold meetings on ONE ship...but don't travel collectively. And, why still is it being ignored that Planet Neptune isn't even inhabited by a Space Faring Intelligent Race?


Don't shoot the messenger

Saturday (Feb. 11), as some of you believe.

The galactics will come some time on Saturday, usually at the time you decide but not absolutely always. They will pick you up (believe it or not) in a black limousine.

For Australians, for whom our today is your tomorrow, AAM says that you will be picked up on your Saturday, which will be our Friday. So for everyone it is Saturday, Feb. 4.
Dear, I'm not trying to...otherwise I'd have used this if I was :laser: lol. Just, pointing out some indiscrepencies. I've very much refrained from commenting to thoroughly on this thread for the simple fact that others have covered my thoughts most adequately including OnyxKnight, to some degree anyway. But, now an Limo? No where in the history of other researched Contacts, and including my own personal contacts. I have ever heard of them using a LIMO that's about as fishy smelling as the local harbor fish market on a hot day. I have 27yrs of physical, telepathic and trans-dimensional contact experience. Nearly at least half that in research. Just Saying.

[Anchor]

I have 27yrs of physical, telepathic and trans-dimensional contact experience. Nearly at least half that in research. Just Saying.

So you wouldn't need a Limo, what about the rest of them? :)

[778 neighbour of some guy]

I wanted to see if there was any activity in the skies recently that might be part of the preparations to pick people up. This was filmed in Germany yesterday.
R_s099gVkAk

edit: Here is the analyzed and slowed version;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JGU0U1kjuM

Well i'll be damned, those are flying limo's ;)

[Billy]

According to the instructions on SB 2012 site Everyone will be picked up in a black limo on Sat the 4th ..We know its Sat in Australia, Any sign of black limos pulling into driveways there ?...Seems as though there should be someone willing to post they are being picked up before they leave ...
A black Limo? Last I checked.....Off Worlders don't drive or ride in Black Limos....nor do races collectively travel in ONE ship, they hold meetings on ONE ship...but don't travel collectively. And, why still is it being ignored that Planet Neptune isn't even inhabited by a Space Faring Intelligent Race?


Don't shoot the messenger

Saturday (Feb. 11), as some of you believe.

The galactics will come some time on Saturday, usually at the time you decide but not absolutely always. They will pick you up (believe it or not) in a black limousine.

For Australians, for whom our today is your tomorrow, AAM says that you will be picked up on your Saturday, which will be our Friday. So for everyone it is Saturday, Feb. 4.
Dear, I'm not trying to...otherwise I'd have used this if I was :laser: lol. Just, pointing out some indiscrepencies. I've very much refrained from commenting to thoroughly on this thread for the simple fact that others have covered my thoughts most adequately including OnyxKnight, to some degree anyway. But, now an Limo? No where in the history of other researched Contacts, and including my own personal contacts. I have ever heard of them using a LIMO that's about as fishy smelling as the local harbor fish market on a hot day. I have 27yrs of physical, telepathic and trans-dimensional contact experience. Nearly at least half that in research. Just Saying.

Im not so sure about that Dreams. :cool:

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[Maia Gabrial]

How come only 100 people? I hear they have 300. Why not take them all?

[gripreaper]

Turn your computer surround sound way up and get ready!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcJ-wNmazHQ

Lyrics:
10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
We're leaving together
But still it's farewell
And maybe we'll come back
To earth, who can tell?
I guess there is no one to blame
We're leaving ground
(Leaving ground)
Will things ever be the same again?

It's the final countdown
(The final countdown)

Ohh
We're heading for Venus and still we stand tall
'Cause maybe they've seen us and welcome us all, yeah
With so many light years to go and things to be found
(To be found)
I'm sure that we'll all miss her so

It's the final countdown
(The final countdown)
The final countdown
(Final countdown)
Ohh ho ohh

The final countdown, Ooh
It's the final countdown
(The final countdown)
The final countdown
(Final countdown)
Ohh

It's the final countdown
We're leaving together, Ooh
(The final countdown)
We'll all miss her so
It's the final countdown
(Final countdown), Ohh
It's the final countdown
Yeah

[778 neighbour of some guy]

How come only 100 people? I hear they have 300. Why not take them all?

They were out of stretch limo's.

[jaybee]

For me, the following words immediately spring to mind... psy-ops, propaganda, programming, brainwashing, mind control, manipulation, deception, alterior motive, agenda, discernment.

You do realize that this cuts both ways don't you ?

Depends how you look at it.
Perhaps both sides are playing for the same team.

perhaps they are...

I think some of the PSYOPS for this forum will be to make Project Avalon look duh stooopid. And full of narcissism, immaturity and gullibility.

To put people off.

And it looks like that is going into full swing.

(That and creating division and negativity.)

And I see we have a new guru on the block...Pila.

:cool:

ps...so sorry if my words have an adverse effect on the Archangel's

manifestation/joy-ride.

[/sarcasm]

:p


pps...I can also see that some are just having a bit of fun with this...:)


.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Its saturday for ten minutes already, someone missing yet?

Damn limo's, always late, its so hard to find a decent driver nowadays.

Maybe its the cash cab.

[Sebastion]

How come only 100 people? I hear they have 300. Why not take them all?

They were out of stretch limo's.

Now I don't care what anybody says, that's funny right there!

[WHOMADEGOD]

If this is about disclosure, why advertise to a community that doesnt need the proof, this should be presented to the general public. So its legit, and the volunteers come back with amazing stories to tell, then who will listen, the same people who volunteered, it would acheive nothing. This does not make any sense, not much of a disclosure...

[etm567]

No, ETM, it means I did not read carefully enough and did not realize that more from Avalon (you and Ria) were planning on making the trip.

Now, stream of consciousness, my current thoughts are:

Only if humanity CANNOT shake off the shackles of oppression by ourselves, without intervention, and we are stuck or circling the drain in one of the following scenarios:

....

The last possibility that would be a positive outcome is that they are not here to "fix" anything - just making species to species contact. As if we are like some tribe hidden deep in the Amazon forest that has never had contact with outsiders. Probably other ET races do visit each other and interact, so why not us as well. If this was simply disclosure and the first (big, public) contact from another race that respects our human sovereignty, I would be thrilled beyond words. I suspect all of us would.

So, allow me to leave it at that. Those would be (off the top of my head) positive scenarios. It's not like we have to wait for 50 years to find out. We'll talk either on the 5th or the 15th. Sound fair?

Dennis

Well, please allow me to say once again, I have never had the impression that this was about "saving" or "rescuing" us. More like saying hello at a really important time. And if they WOULD help us with healthy technology for the Earth, that I believe we have been denied for many decades, that would be great.

And if they WOULD help chronically ill people like me get better, that would be great.

And if they WOULD clean up radiation and garbage like that, I also think that would be a very useful contribution for them to make.

To tell the truth, there have been times when I wished they would just swoop down and round up all the bad guys and take them away. But they won't do that.

Honestly, from here New Jersey, I do not have a good grasp of what things are actually like in the rest of the world, in terms of how much control the cabal holds. What I do know is that here, in what used to be the good old USA, they really do own the media lock, stock and barrel, as well as almost all of our voting machines. That gives them pretty darned near total control. Yet, we are making headway, and I do believe there are some heroic white hats who may be really working to restore our constitutional democracy and maybe take away that nasty corporate personhood.

But getting back to "spacemen," it seems to me that you and I basically have very different views of what it is the "galactics," if we can call them that, have said they would do for us. Or maybe it's just that the galactics I listen to aren't the same ones that you are familiar with, the ones that promise to beam us up and save us from the nasty earthquakes and tsunamis at the end of the world. Maybe that's the source of the confusion?

But then, that is actually kind of funny. Because if, for instance, you sort of read between the lines in the Ra Materials when they describe what has happened, or may happen, at the time of what they call "the harvest," they actually do not come swooping down to save all the poor humans. They do not. No, it seems like when those periodic violent planetary changes take place, they stand back and watch while the local residents depart the physical plane, and should their assistance be needed, they re there to collect stray souls, or bits of souls, give them some TLC, and make sure they don't get lost or waylaid in the confusion. But they do not intervene in order to keep any souls in their bodies.

Once upon a time, according to Ra, there was another planet in our solar system, named Maldek. And, one sad day, its inhabitants blew it up. Ra either was there or came to answer a call, and they collected the distressed souls who no longer had a planet to associate with, and who were in a very bad way. They applied love and comfort, and after a period of some time, Ra brought the homeless souls here to Earth, where they incarnated as one of the several forms of Bigfoot.

Other souls in this solar system who have needed assistance were on this planet, the unhappy victims of the atomic blasts in Hiroshima and Nagasiaki. According to Ra, they were in a very bad way for a very long time, all knotted up together in what Ra describes as a "tangle of fear." After collecting all the stray bits and pieces of souls, Ra applied the first aid of love for decades, unstintingly, until finally the souls could allow themselves to be untangled. As of the early 1980s, when Ra was telling this story, those souls were still recovering and were not yet in any shape to incarnate. Apparently, atomic blasts are very destructive to souls as well as to 3D physical matter.

So, from what they have said, it seems that, apart from emergencies, they're here to teach us, guide us and love on us. And at this particular point in time, they are hoping to be able to offer us congratulations upon our graduation. But if we do seem to be on the verge of starting World War III with nuclear weapons, potentially blowing ourselves -- quite literally -- to "kingdom come," they will intervene, as they seem to have been doing for some years now. And I personally am thankful for that. They will not allow that worst case scenario to come to pass at this time, and thus they will not need to collect the blasted shreds of our immortal souls and stick them back together again, unlike poor old Humpty Dumpty.

But to get back to reality,you wouldn't really expect the three of us to say, "No, thank you, we three human beings pass on this opportunity, because we see that we must stand on our own two feet"? You don't really expect us to do that, do you?

Put yourself in our shoes. Pretend that there is a possibility, just a possibility -- but it is at least possible, isn't it? -- that you could hop onto a sky bicycle and be taken aboard a starship belonging to some distant neighbors for a nice, sociable visit. You could spend some time in the healing bays or check out the science ships, or do whatever you most wanted to do with your time. What would I do? I would spend time in the library, I think, learning the true history of our solar system. I don't know if I would be getting this information from a book or a person or a piece of technology, but I do so want to learn our story!

And then, to get to see the stars again! Or, not the stars, the whole sky, the cosmos! :o I haven't gotten a good view of the Milky Way in many, many years. But I remember what it used to make me feel like to see it, on a clear, dark night. It was a very special feeling, one that I would like to have again. My daughter has never seen the night sky like that. And here in suburban New Jersey, it isn't very likely to happen any time soon, unfortunately.

Would you say no? Seriously?

If the chance that this will take place is just one out of twenty, that's fine for me. Or one out of a hundred. Why not?

Gee, I'm almost 60. I was laughed at and needled plenty when I was young, and at that time it bothered me. It will bother me this time, if it happens, but I can honestly say I do not care as I did when I was a teenager! Thank goodness.

ETM

[Billy]

How come only 100 people? I hear they have 300. Why not take them all?

They were out of stretch limo's.

Now I don't care what anybody says, that's funny right there!

It made me giiggle also. Whatever happens or does not happen, Keep Laughing :heh:

Peace

EDIT: I just saw ETM's post above and want to say i have been Waitng since i was 5yrs old to join my universal family again, And the only way i will know if they are my family, is to meet them. Then discern.

I would go, without a doubt.

[aranuk]

There is no communication with Steve Beckow at the moment. All is quiet from him. Nothing being reported about the journey of the two scouts that he proposed to the GFL. The chat group has a few enquiries on the two scouts. Nobody has said anything about the two scouts being actually picked up and transported to spaceship Neptune. Nothing from what I have heard or read. I would have expected Steve to have at least said something about the 2 scouts having at least been picked up a few hours before mid-day that was 6 hrs ago. Nothing at all of their return. No videos, no pics, nothing to show. Why send 2 scouts in the first place? Where did the 2 scouts live? were they in America and close? Like in the same city, town? If they never left Earth then there is nothing to be worried about. If they did leave, why have they not returned yet, they are overdue by a few hours. Is there something gone wrong. I am worried in the same way as I would be if astronauts were gone and there was no communication from NASA.

Stan

[cellardoor]

There is no communication with Steve Beckow at the moment. All is quiet from him. Nothing being reported about the journey of the two scouts that he proposed to the GFL. The chat group has a few enquiries on the two scouts. Nobody has said anything about the two scouts being actually picked up and transported to spaceship Neptune. Nothing from what I have heard or read. I would have expected Steve to have at least said something about the 2 scouts having at least been picked up a few hours before mid-day that was 6 hrs ago. Nothing at all of their return. No videos, no pics, nothing to show. Why send 2 scouts in the first place? Where did the 2 scouts live? were they in America and close? Like in the same city, town? If they never left Earth then there is nothing to be worried about. If they did leave, why have they not returned yet, they are overdue by a few hours. Is there something gone wrong. I am worried in the same way as I would be if astronauts were gone and there was no communication from NASA.

Stan

as of 3.30 pm pacific the scouts were still there.

[gripreaper]

And then, to get to see the stars again! Or, not the stars, the whole sky, the cosmos! :o I haven't gotten a good view of the Milky Way in many, many years. But I remember what it used to make me feel like to see it, on a clear, dark night. It was a very special feeling, one that I would like to have again. My daughter has never seen the night sky like that. And here in suburban New Jersey, it isn't very likely to happen any time soon, unfortunately.

ETM

May I suggest you and your daughter grab a couple sleeping bags and head out to the country and sleep under the stars for a weekend? i can't imagine anyone who has not had this experience.

[DarMar]

A black Limo? Last I checked.....Off Worlders don't drive or ride in Black Limos....nor do races collectively travel in ONE ship, they hold meetings on ONE ship...but don't travel collectively. And, why still is it being ignored that Planet Neptune isn't even inhabited by a Space Faring Intelligent Race?

actually while you mention that... i thought several times in this post, they say their ship is organic right? and is called neptune? and coincidentally ship moves just when planet moves?
Just to be lil clearer on this one, i always knew we living on a spaceship . It floats through space right? and is organic? and apparently is hollow to some minds. so who says we arent already on a MOTHERSHIP EARTH. And would be really surprised if Michael transport you on planet and says: "You know folks this is our organic spaceship, you were also on one but you werent aware" .. now that is a concept

i wont even start with things like we wil come 100% ... few hours later to stretch time comes sentence: our manifestation depends on you.

And lets say limmo. Now im not gonna be funny here but offer concept.
every single sentence which i read in those channeling is going to the direction people who tracked channel wanted to hear! EVERY single bit.
so why limmo? well try read human mind... in what vechile he would be liked to be picked from galactic federation of dunno.. galactic i guess to feel important?

so imo and from start i was appealing that source is controlled, info DOESNT exist and all is unreliable and unstable to MAX point it can be.
It is easy to spam now forum with i told ya when all saw it didnt happened. and laughing at is what our Avalonian friends doesnt deserve.

So why this guy sticks on this thread and yells that stuff.. because i wanna participate in growing of humanity, HUMANITY WONT GROW THRU ALIENS no matter who says whatever. Moment i stepped into avalon i took my part to participate with rest of great minds here to get to result. Im not cynical im very intuitious.
Im not always right, but thats why i expect to cooperate here a bit.

Thing is that this tread showed me behind that naive expectation a one great thing. You guys have really unbreakable faith and heart.
And i really respect that, dont let it broke if this falls, but stand higher.
We humans will do for what we came here.
We wanted to do it without interferrence and all that channeling and good alien that want to help us is distraction and one big disinfo.

Sit, take time, think about it. Is this what you always wanted? why you would get it? and most importand when in life you grew trhough love and cuddling, or you grow through problems and complications and contradictions.


Best to you all

[aranuk]

There is no communication with Steve Beckow at the moment. All is quiet from him. Nothing being reported about the journey of the two scouts that he proposed to the GFL. The chat group has a few enquiries on the two scouts. Nobody has said anything about the two scouts being actually picked up and transported to spaceship Neptune. Nothing from what I have heard or read. I would have expected Steve to have at least said something about the 2 scouts having at least been picked up a few hours before mid-day that was 6 hrs ago. Nothing at all of their return. No videos, no pics, nothing to show. Why send 2 scouts in the first place? Where did the 2 scouts live? were they in America and close? Like in the same city, town? If they never left Earth then there is nothing to be worried about. If they did leave, why have they not returned yet, they are overdue by a few hours. Is there something gone wrong. I am worried in the same way as I would be if astronauts were gone and there was no communication from NASA.

Stan

as of 3.30 pm pacific the scouts were still there.

Hi Michael, still where? On Starship Neptune? or still in their homes? Which? And where did you read, hear this?

Stan

[cellardoor]

There is no communication with Steve Beckow at the moment. All is quiet from him. Nothing being reported about the journey of the two scouts that he proposed to the GFL. The chat group has a few enquiries on the two scouts. Nobody has said anything about the two scouts being actually picked up and transported to spaceship Neptune. Nothing from what I have heard or read. I would have expected Steve to have at least said something about the 2 scouts having at least been picked up a few hours before mid-day that was 6 hrs ago. Nothing at all of their return. No videos, no pics, nothing to show. Why send 2 scouts in the first place? Where did the 2 scouts live? were they in America and close? Like in the same city, town? If they never left Earth then there is nothing to be worried about. If they did leave, why have they not returned yet, they are overdue by a few hours. Is there something gone wrong. I am worried in the same way as I would be if astronauts were gone and there was no communication from NASA.

Stan

as of 3.30 pm pacific the scouts were still there.

Hi Michael, still where? On Starship Neptune? or still in their homes? Which? And where did you read, hear this?

Stan

yep still on earth, it's not long been posted on the site. Apparently vina in aus will be emailing before she goes, but thats all i know

[cellardoor]

Need sleep now. Getting up at 5, expecting to leave by 6, If nothing happens I wont be online until after 6pm gmt, if I go I'll post from the ship ASAP. Thanks again for everything, and especially for respecting my point of view. I will not let this get to me. It was always gonna be one of two things, I've known that from the start. The jury is still out for me, I'll be expecting.

[aranuk]

Well then, we now have a report that they are still here on planet Earth. This means they were NOT picked up by either a small space ship or a black limo then. In fact the plan is not going forward as Steve expected it to be. Why didn't Steve let the world know what didn't happen today? I wonder. hmm. He has announced it all with quite a loud trumpet if I can say so. He could say it quietly I presume. I was very excited about all this, but now with a lack of communication from him, I am now settled down.

Stan

[cellardoor]

oh by the way they have a ustream occupygalactics

Night night

[NewFounderHome]

http://the2012scenario.com/2012/02/message-from-aa-michael-humanitys-voyage-to-the-stars/#more-93964

In terms of a report, the scouts are still here as of 3:30 p.m. Pacific time. The Australians, we believe, have not left, but there is an outside chance they may have. Vina also may be sleeping. Vina will post an email immediately before leaving so we’ll know. Everyone here is on pins and needles.

I told AA Michael in yesterday’s interview that if the galactics did not deliver this time, I would not remain in public life. So they do know. And I repeat it here: No excuses this time around. We want Disclosure now. It is High Noon and time to provide us with tangible proof of so many matters that we only know about from paper.

[Dennis Leahy]

The last possibility that would be a positive outcome is that they are not here to "fix" anything - just making species to species contact. As if we are like some tribe hidden deep in the Amazon forest that has never had contact with outsiders. Probably other ET races do visit each other and interact, so why not us as well. If this was simply disclosure and the first (big, public) contact from another race that respects our human sovereignty, I would be thrilled beyond words. I suspect all of us would.

Dennis

Well, please allow me to say once again, I have never had the impression that this was about "saving" or "rescuing" us. More like saying hello at a really important time. ...

But getting back to "spacemen," it seems to me that you and I basically have very different views of what it is the "galactics," if we can call them that, have said they would do for us. Or maybe it's just that the galactics I listen to aren't the same ones that you are familiar with, the ones that promise to beam us up and save us from the nasty earthquakes and tsunamis at the end of the world. Maybe that's the source of the confusion?
...

But to get back to reality,you wouldn't really expect the three of us to say, "No, thank you, we three human beings pass on this opportunity, because we see that we must stand on our own two feet"? You don't really expect us to do that, do you?

...

Would you say no? Seriously?

...

ETM
It seems like you're quoting my words, but not reading them. I highlighted a few.

And, as I have already said, I have no intention of making fun of the 3 of you. If I'm going to make fun of anyone, it will be the type of person that sits on their butt on the couch, remote control in hand, watching "reality" TV rather than actually living in our current reality, and dreaming of a better one, and working towards that dream.

Dennis

[aranuk]

here is the latest from AAM


Message from AA Michael: Humanity’s Voyage to the Stars
2012 February 3
Posted by Steve Beckow

I’ve hesitated to post this message, but so many people have asked that it be posted that I’m doing so now. Some parts of it I’m not sure I accept, but there are other parts that are quite interesting.

In terms of a report, the scouts are still here as of 3:30 p.m. Pacific time. The Australians, we believe, have not left, but there is an outside chance they may have. Vina also may be sleeping. Vina will post an email immediately before leaving so we’ll know. Everyone here is on pins and needles.

I told AA Michael in yesterday’s interview that if the galactics did not deliver this time, I would not remain in public life. So they do know. And I repeat it here: No excuses this time around. We want Disclosure now. It is High Noon and time to provide us with tangible proof of so many matters that we only know about from paper.

Message from AA Michael: Humanity’s Voyage to the Stars

Feb. 3, 2012

http://radiantlyhappy.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/message-from-aa-michael-humanitys.html

Dear Ones,

I AM AA Michael,

Today everybody watches Steve Beckow and “the voyage to the stars” he is organizing which is supposed to commence on Saturday this week.

Well, there are many options still open, and it has to be seen whether they will happen or not.

It all depends not on us who have proposed our meeting and invited you, but it depends entirely on you all who are participating in what ever way you have your attention on this event.

Everybody is adding with their thought and emotional energy to it, and also with their energy of physical action.

All of this creates a new pattern and depending on this pattern as a whole, we will carry out this project or not.

It is not Steve alone who is responsible, this is a thoroughly wrong perception he has, because everything is, as all happenings are on your world (and in other worlds), always a group process. Everybody involved therefore is responsible for the outcome. Whether they participate directly or they are observing from far.

Whatever they think and whatever energy they produce, it all adds to the overall outcome. You ARE and act as one humanity, whether you are aware of it or not, and there is in reality no separation. In so far, everybody is responsible for the result.

So you will understand that we do not look at you as single individuals, we look at you as a combined force of energies which are patterned as thoughts, emotions, actions and which include all your energy bodies.

What we have initiated by our invitation serves several purposes:

One, to set actively in motion a new pattern regarding humanity’s involvement with us, your space family. This pattern is the womb of which a new constellation of our interconnectedness can be born, a new understanding how in reality things evolve and that there are always many different parts involved who all must fit together so that tangible results can be achieved.

The second purpose is to make more people aware of our presence and how natural our friendship and mutual meeting would be. It is like visiting your human family from another country, only that we are off your planet. You will soon get fully used to it. In reality nothing is new and most of you will quickly remember your past natural exchanges with your space family.

The third purpose is to actually change and awaken certain dormant codes of your galactic consciousness. By inviting you on our ships, these codes of the visiting group will be triggered and activated, which in turn will awaken also successively these codes in your human family altogether. In your past humanity always has been interacting with your space family. And this memory is still stored in your cells. This memory will be awakened again.

There is another purpose in addition to the other ones: we are eager to directly communicate with you, because this communication will set in motion, as you are residents and physical offsprings of your Mother Earth, a further opening of Gaia’s atmosphere to cosmic influence which will have an important influence on Her’s and your imminent ascension process.

By directly communicating with us, not only your own Galactic heritage will be strengthened and reactivated, but – as a chain reaction – also earth’s still asleep star seeds will awaken. This is a process which will free Gaia further from her galactic isolation as a planetary body and connect her directly to universal energy points, which in turn empowers her and your ascension process.

You see, you are all inherently connected not only to your human family and to your planet, but of course also to your surrounding universe. And our meeting will initiate and reinstate the actual inherent connectedness between earth and the galaxy.

Nothing is separate, but most of you are used to consider not only your human brothers and sisters as separate beings, but also your own planet, and therefore also all your space brothers and sisters and other planets and universes.

In truth we are all created from one single source field, in which we are one and single, and this singleness of the totality of creation, is felt in the heart which we all share.

We come in love, and this invitation is an invitation of love, and the uniting of what has been seemingly separate for so long.

Our invitation stands, but it is up to you whether you who are participating in thought, emotion and action are able to transcend the idea of separation and fear. Whether you, as a group consciousness, bear the clarity and determination of unity and love in which we desire to unite.

And this exactly is the main purpose of our meeting. This uniting force which we must all share in our hearts so that we can stand face to face.

I greet you with love and respect!

I AM AA Michael

[Billy]

Well then, we now have a report that they are still here on planet Earth. This means they were NOT picked up by either a small space ship or a black limo then. In fact the plan is not going forward as Steve expected it to be. Why didn't Steve let the world know what didn't happen today? I wonder. hmm. He has announced it all with quite a loud trumpet if I can say so. He could say it quietly I presume. I was very excited about all this, but now with a lack of communication from him, I am now settled down.

Stan

Now come on Stan, You know it's never over, until it's over.
Be settled anyway.

All the best everyone

Enjoy playing, Keep smiling :grouphug:

[aranuk]

That's a cop out don't you think?

Stan

Edit: I was referring to the channelled message from AAmichael I posted.

[cellardoor]

That's not Linda BTW. Just thought I'd point that out. thanks.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

here is the latest from AAM


Message from AA Michael: Humanity’s Voyage to the Stars
2012 February 3
Posted by Steve Beckow

I’ve hesitated to post this message, but so many people have asked that it be posted that I’m doing so now. Some parts of it I’m not sure I accept, but there are other parts that are quite interesting.

In terms of a report, the scouts are still here as of 3:30 p.m. Pacific time. The Australians, we believe, have not left, but there is an outside chance they may have. Vina also may be sleeping. Vina will post an email immediately before leaving so we’ll know. Everyone here is on pins and needles.

I told AA Michael in yesterday’s interview that if the galactics did not deliver this time, I would not remain in public life. So they do know. And I repeat it here: No excuses this time around. We want Disclosure now. It is High Noon and time to provide us with tangible proof of so many matters that we only know about from paper.

Message from AA Michael: Humanity’s Voyage to the Stars

Feb. 3, 2012

http://radiantlyhappy.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/message-from-aa-michael-humanitys.html

Dear Ones,

I AM AA Michael,

Today everybody watches Steve Beckow and “the voyage to the stars” he is organizing which is supposed to commence on Saturday this week.

Well, there are many options still open, and it has to be seen whether they will happen or not.

It all depends not on us who have proposed our meeting and invited you, but it depends entirely on you all who are participating in what ever way you have your attention on this event.

Everybody is adding with their thought and emotional energy to it, and also with their energy of physical action.

All of this creates a new pattern and depending on this pattern as a whole, we will carry out this project or not.

It is not Steve alone who is responsible, this is a thoroughly wrong perception he has, because everything is, as all happenings are on your world (and in other worlds), always a group process. Everybody involved therefore is responsible for the outcome. Whether they participate directly or they are observing from far.

Whatever they think and whatever energy they produce, it all adds to the overall outcome. You ARE and act as one humanity, whether you are aware of it or not, and there is in reality no separation. In so far, everybody is responsible for the result.

So you will understand that we do not look at you as single individuals, we look at you as a combined force of energies which are patterned as thoughts, emotions, actions and which include all your energy bodies.

What we have initiated by our invitation serves several purposes:

One, to set actively in motion a new pattern regarding humanity’s involvement with us, your space family. This pattern is the womb of which a new constellation of our interconnectedness can be born, a new understanding how in reality things evolve and that there are always many different parts involved who all must fit together so that tangible results can be achieved.

The second purpose is to make more people aware of our presence and how natural our friendship and mutual meeting would be. It is like visiting your human family from another country, only that we are off your planet. You will soon get fully used to it. In reality nothing is new and most of you will quickly remember your past natural exchanges with your space family.

The third purpose is to actually change and awaken certain dormant codes of your galactic consciousness. By inviting you on our ships, these codes of the visiting group will be triggered and activated, which in turn will awaken also successively these codes in your human family altogether. In your past humanity always has been interacting with your space family. And this memory is still stored in your cells. This memory will be awakened again.

There is another purpose in addition to the other ones: we are eager to directly communicate with you, because this communication will set in motion, as you are residents and physical offsprings of your Mother Earth, a further opening of Gaia’s atmosphere to cosmic influence which will have an important influence on Her’s and your imminent ascension process.

By directly communicating with us, not only your own Galactic heritage will be strengthened and reactivated, but – as a chain reaction – also earth’s still asleep star seeds will awaken. This is a process which will free Gaia further from her galactic isolation as a planetary body and connect her directly to universal energy points, which in turn empowers her and your ascension process.

You see, you are all inherently connected not only to your human family and to your planet, but of course also to your surrounding universe. And our meeting will initiate and reinstate the actual inherent connectedness between earth and the galaxy.

Nothing is separate, but most of you are used to consider not only your human brothers and sisters as separate beings, but also your own planet, and therefore also all your space brothers and sisters and other planets and universes.

In truth we are all created from one single source field, in which we are one and single, and this singleness of the totality of creation, is felt in the heart which we all share.

We come in love, and this invitation is an invitation of love, and the uniting of what has been seemingly separate for so long.

Our invitation stands, but it is up to you whether you who are participating in thought, emotion and action are able to transcend the idea of separation and fear. Whether you, as a group consciousness, bear the clarity and determination of unity and love in which we desire to unite.

And this exactly is the main purpose of our meeting. This uniting force which we must all share in our hearts so that we can stand face to face.

I greet you with love and respect!

I AM AA Michael

Disclaimer? Allready?

[DreamsInDigital]

So you wouldn't need a Limo, what about the rest of them? :)
Ofcourse not, and neither would REAL Off Worlders. Real Off Worlders don't require Limos nor would they use them.

@ Billy
That's basically the point I was trying to make, and you did it so eloquently.

[aranuk]

That's not Linda BTW. Just thought I'd point that out. thanks.

But Steve posted it on his site. Why did he do that?

Stan

[S-L]

Serious question. How can Steve tell the difference between AA Micheal communication and communication from other sources purporting to be AA Micheal? Does he have that level of discernment? Does anyone? And how do you know? The voluminous information we have on ET abductions is that they are all quite skilled in mental telepathy and mind control. They can easily project images, thoughts, and even feelings in the mental environment. How can Steve tell the difference between communication from AA Micheal or from these beings on the purported Neptune Mothership. What if it's a setup?

There have been gifted individuals here and there, but on a collective level we have no skill in the mental environment. Only our most adepts can match the skill our alien intruders possess. There is no negativity here. There is no fear. It's simply not a skill humanity has developed to a any real degree. For Steve to confidently state that these are communications from AA Micheal is not necessarily wrong or suspicious or dubious, but one should consider the message, then act accordingly. Consider the nature of the message: "don't worry, we're all family" "it's all good, we're space brothers" "we just want to help you" "enough of you have to want our presence here for it to happen" ...

You know, we're dealing with another intelligent species. They are more technologically advanced than we are. They visited us, not the other way around. On any number of level, we are at a disadvantage here. Do you know what the most terrifying thing is? The thing even our most acclaimed scientists dare not seriously think about? Even most people who accept the reality of ET contact? What if they're like us? Not pure, not evil, not demons, not angels... but just self-interested? We live on a real jewel of a planet. It's a prize. Why are they here? Why are they abducting people in the darkness? Why are they so secretive? Why are they trying to lull us into a position of trust and weakness? These are legitimate questions!

Who here can say why they are doing this? They traveled from a distant star to come here and help us activate our DNA? Really? Did we travel across the Atlantic to help a distant tribe progress spiritually and technologically? Doesn't this ring WRONG to you? Where are our natural survival instincts as a species? They are abducting us left and right! Thousands upon thousands all over the world...

[OnyxKnight]

And lets say limmo. Now im not gonna be funny here but offer concept.
every single sentence which i read in those channeling is going to the direction people who tracked channel wanted to hear! EVERY single bit.
so why limmo? well try read human mind... in what vechile he would be liked to be picked from galactic federation of dunno.. galactic i guess to feel important?l

LOL

I understand the need to blend in human surroundings, so the use of cars. But they chose a limmo? Seriously?

Its very eye-catching. Especially if people who know you and live near you have never seen you drive in one.

That's not exactly blending in lol. They would more likely pick something that doesn't stand out much, and looks stylish (they don't have our sense of style - so why use it? They don't have even the concept of style!)


For crying out loud - I am always picked up in a freaking red yugo. You don't get more economical than that around here lol

For some of you who are scratching you heads reading that, here's how it looks like:

http://autopolis.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/red_yugo_gv_in_junction_triangle_toronto_canada.jpg?w=600&h=450

[etm567]

OL

I understand the need to blend in human surroundings, so the use of cars. But they chose a limmo? Seriously?

Its very eye-catching. Especially if people who know you and live near you have never seen you drive in one.

That's not exactly blending in lol. They would more likely pick something that doesn't stand out much, and looks stylish (they don't have our sense of style - so why use it? They don't have even the concept of style!)


For crying out loud - I am always picked up in a freaking red yugo. You don't get more economical than that around here lol

For some of you who are scratching you heads reading that, here's how it looks like:

http://autopolis.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/red_yugo_gv_in_junction_triangle_toronto_canada.jpg?w=600&h=450

Come on! They didn't say a stretch limo! Just the plain black kind that takes you to the airport. They're not very "eye-catching." Just you basic comfortable black sedan.

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

Why am I having Blossom Goodchild flashbacks all of a sudden?

hehe

[OnyxKnight]

Have any of you considered to at least ask the question - how are you going to survive Neptune's atmosphere? Assuming you are going to be at least close enough to the extraterrestrials to be able to communicate. Lets pretend that even though by the GFL standards, they look like us, they are living on Neptune, somehow, and they have adapted to it long time ago. A breathing apparatus is not enough, nor is a suit (the pressures there are ridiculously high), and don't get me started on gravity pull - you do realize that even in orbit - the gravity could be quite larger than what you are used to on Earth?

If they said Neptune's moon(s) instead of Neptune itself - it would have made more sense. Like Triton, for example, which has quite a lot of extraterrestrial ruins, so xenoarcheologists are gonna be busy there when visiting. If they said Triton, I might have been less skeptical about this. But they haven't.

[NeverMind]

I can't believe you people are discussing limos, of all things... :)

To be perfectly honest, I initially thought this was some sort of internal joke here.
I gather it was not.
In view of that, I'd like to point out a few things that, to me personally, seem considerably more indicative than the blessed limos of how seriously this initiative should be taken.

Let's imagine we are extraterrestrials who want to approach Earthlings, either for their own benefit (whatever that might be) or just for kicks.

Obviously we would have to proceed in a manner that is intelligible to those poor creatures down there. But we would probably also want the communication to be effected as efficiently as possible.

In order to do that, which of the tactics below would YOU choose?
(Choose as many as you like.)

1.) Send a series of clear radio signals.

2.) Intercept a popular TV channel or two for a few seconds and make a statement, predicting your next moves (which you then follow through).

3.) Call a press conference.
(Why not?)

4.) Send invitations to the media, to various heads of states, and to other prominent as well as private individuals, from all over the world.

5.) Appear, clearly visibly and unmistakably, above international waters - not far from land, just out of reach of any individual country's authority.

6.) Make multiple simultaneous appearances on very visible public spaces all over the world.

OR...

1.) Find a blog (preferably in English only) among the gazillion blogs that Earthlings use on their internet and announce to the readership of that blog - who need no convincing of your existence, because they already believe in you - that there are some places up for grabs on your spaceship. First come, first served.

Which, do you think, would be the most and the least efficient manner of making yourself known to Earthlings?

Judging by the disappointingly predictable "disclaimer" (already? as somebody else here said :)), these pranksters, whoever they are, aren't particularly sophisticated minds - not even if the intended goal was to make fun of this "galactic federation" thing, whatever it is.

P.S. Let it be clear that this is in no way intended to offend anyone. I feel very, very sorry for all those who were disappointed.
Heck, I feel sorry for all of us. And I am not referring to this hoax.

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

Nearly 3pm Australia time .......

.....any one?

[truth4me]

Steve Beckow said he would withdraw from public life if this doesn't happen......we shall see....

[cellardoor]

quick update it's 6:15 am, still here, so are the scouts. Looking doubt full at the moment, big shrug.

[cellardoor]

Emergence Will Only Cost Us Everything
2012 FEBRUARY 3
Posted by Steve Beckow


How many people have I talked to this evening who are cleaning out, clearing out, finding themselves, finding their center?

How many people have confided to others that they’re going on an expedition to a spaceship and reaped the whirlwind? How many are facing the choice of standing for truth or accommodating?

And all through this the theme emerges that it isn’t success or failure that matters, but whether or not we emerge in the face of our challenges.

Are we afraid to go on an adventure to the stars? Will we brave the criticism of our family and friends? Can we stand the glare of publicity? Will we yield to others’ criticisms over our course of action?

Is this about the galactics and Disclosure or is it really about us? Is it about the flavorless people we’ve become in our quest to conserve the good estimation of others? Is it about our fear of giving up our “big chance” at fame, riches, and power, or whatever else we’re clinging to?

What does it mean to emerge? And must we emerge before we take on any challenge? If we don’t emerge when we set off for that ship, will it just be one more adventure that we were never present to anyways? Will it make a difference in our lives or just be one more luxury liner we took a trip on?

What really matters? What’s it all about? Why are we doing this anyways?

There’s a part of ourselves that you can call our exterior, our surface consciousness, our everyday mind and everyday heart that isn’t us. And in order to remain in contact with that, we have to compromise, accommodate and fit in.

Then there’s a part of ourselves that you can call our interior, our deeper consciousness, our non-ordinary mind and non-ordinary heart that really is us. And in order to come in contact with that, we have to give up compromise, accommodation and fitting in. We have to give up every thing, every attachment, every desire but that.

Every time we take on something out of the ordinary, stand out from the crowd, or take a step in the direction of our own freedom, truth and honor, we encounter the drag of conformity and the dead pull of the herd mentality.

We can go on this voyage of discovery and remain in our shells and not emerge. But I don’t think it will do us a stitch of good.

Let’s face it. If we’ve signed on to meet our galactic family, we have by that mere fact alone given up the chance of remaining on the surface of things and living by compromise and accommodation. The very act of stepping forward and saying we want to go was the death knell of that.

Even if you stated you wanted to go and couldn’t go, you still voted for the end of superficiality.

If the world then turned around and bit us, threatened us and abandoned us, what did we expect? A hero’s welcome? A bouquet of flowers for threatening the status quo?

We’ve become subversives of the most threatening type. Close encounters with the emergent personality, with authenticity and truth.


How much will emergence cost us? Only everything.

Welcome to your new life. Welcome to the end of comfortable conformity, to the demise of hiding, passing and getting by. Welcome to the new life where the only strength you can rely on is your own inner strength, the only truth you can bank on is the truth that will not let you sleep and be denied.

Welcome to the roundtable. Welcome to yourself. Welcome to the only home we’ll ever have.

http://the2012scenario.com/2012/02/emergence-will-only-cost-us-everything/

[Dennis Leahy]

Welcome to yourself. Welcome to the only home we’ll ever have.
So.... this was a social experiment? A test to see who has the fearlessness (or overcame fear) to jump off of Castaneda's cliff?

Dennis

[ViralSpiral]

Welcome to yourself. Welcome to the only home we’ll ever have.
So.... this was a social experiment? A test to see who has the fearlessness (or overcame fear) to jump off of Castaneda's cliff?

Dennis


It would seem...

Reflections in a petri dish

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ksLHwVR7gZs/Tu_TlETLAlI/AAAAAAAAA5s/LgixVhQHE4U/Merry%2BChristmas%252C%2BNerds%2521%2BHere%25E2%2580%2599s%2Bsome%2BChristmas%2Bfungus%2Bon%2Ba%2Bpe tri%2Bdish..png




I say:BRING IT ON!

[Tony]

Here's something for you to watch while you are waiting... the 1939 version of Gullible's...:o sorry, Gulliver's Travels...

ihjo4MSTU1w

Of course, they could have been and gone: due to a misunderstanding of the laws of getting things in proportion in the universe, their spaceship was unfortunately swallowed by a small dog called Clive.

Sorry about that.

[Carrie]

Are we being given the opportunity to break through the highly filtered perceptions of the collective reality? This certainly brings to my mind the accounts of the early Native Americans unable to see the tall sailing ships of Magellan's fleet, until at last their Shamans began to vision them. It may take a bit to break through the collective reality to allow the new vision in. What an exciting time! We as a collective have a multitude of perceptions on any aspect, all relevant from our individual placement within the collective. Some are comfortable on the edge and some are not. Some and not comfortable in the middle, but are on the edge. Stability and movement, both vital to life. I'm willing to keep looking till we see.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Here's something for you to watch while you are waiting... the 1939 version of Gullible's...:o sorry, Gulliver's Travels...

ihjo4MSTU1w

Of course, they could have been and gone: due to a misunderstanding of the laws of getting things in proportion in the universe, their spaceship was unfortunately swallowed by a small dog called Clive.

Sorry about that.

I hope dearest Clive will not become the first intergalacticly constipated small dog from swallowing that ship.

Best wishes and good health from me to Clive.

When in need of help, may the Great Cosmic Supreme Laxative be with him, always.

[Ria]

Still here, I can speculate add infinitum, no point. A lot helicopter activity through the night?

[Mad Hatter]

Mad Hatter dons his doubting thomas cap...



Welcome to yourself. Welcome to the only home we’ll ever have.
So.... this was a social experiment? A test to see who has the fearlessness (or overcame fear) to jump off of Castaneda's cliff?

Dennis

Lol...I'd have said the lemming test but thanks for the tip on how to put it more eloquently should I have a need in future.

Up until now and out of respect for those involved, I have remained neutral to the best of my ability so as not to have a negative impact on proceedings.

/SARCASM

That was then...but post the AAM (Arch A-hole Mickey) disclaimer... this is now...

Can anyone tell me if the Beckow site runs click throughs on adverts??

The reason I ask is that IIRC 80,000 hit$ in a day being the most ever might turn into a tidy sum for someone looking to retire from the alt-community business and I have certainly come to believe that for a lot involved it is a business.

How could I be so cynical I hear some say.... pretty simple really the 'potty' is still empty and our space friends sitting on it have had more than enough time to take a dump virtual or otherwise.

Of course it may turn out that Mr Beckow has done those who care to look at it from a certain perspective, an immense favour. That being here is yet another abject lesson in how BLIND FAITH is still a problem humanity needs to address. Personally I would have thought Malleus Maleficarum was sufficient enough but it seems not...

For those who feel this approach is overly harsh then perhaps you should petition the mods to move the entire thing under say Perfection Lumiere in the Chanel section wherein I will respectfully leave it alone but as long as it remains as a subject under General discussion then it should rightfully be open slather for those seeking the truth behind such matters.

To that end and keeping an open mind of course...

Where are the scouts and what did they report?
Did the Limos turn up and if so where they driven by MIBs?
Any MSM press reports of large IFNs (Identified Flying Neptunes)?
If the time compression argument is to be put forward (and no small dogs got involved) then I take it air to ground comunications where also impacted so we would need to rely on hand held video devices for evidence. Where might that be?
Which you tube channel holds the streaming vids?

I am very happy to eat crow if and when required, in the meantime, hmmm....crickets

/SARCASM

[Eric J (Viking)]

Welcome to yourself. Welcome to the only home we’ll ever have.
So.... this was a social experiment? A test to see who has the fearlessness (or overcame fear) to jump off of Castaneda's cliff?

Dennis

Yes it would appear that way ... still cannot understand his angle on this...?

viking

[Eric J (Viking)]

Another update here....

Update

I can tell you that at 11:00 p.m. Friday, with an hour to go, this site had 110,000 hits, which means in my books that a lot of people want Disclosure.

I’ve just had a chat with Linda Dillon who has worked a 15-hour day and is too fatigued to channel at this moment. She said, whether or not the scouts went today, she has asked management all day about it and their words to her were “stay in trust and pack.”

But Linda did offer to dedicate her Saturday morning conference call to a session with the galactics on our trip. She’s permitting me to ask questions. The number is 1-559-546-1301 and the access code is 534452#. The time is 8:00 a.m. Pacific time and 11:00 a.m. Eastern time. We will make a transcript.

Linda also added, and I agree, that the shadow government, who undoubtedly were listening in on our call, should see and know how many people are ready, really ready, for Disclosure and if they were wise they’d disclose first before we really lose impatience at their foot-dragging. Well said. So tomorrow we’ll hear more. I don’t think you need to fear missing the taxi while listening to Linda’s call.

I also chatted with a well-known channel who said her galactic source, which I quote regularly here, knows Grener well. I don’t have her permission to quote her and so I’ll leave it at that.

It’s Friday, 6:00 p.m. on the West Coast of North America, 1:00 p.m. in Australia, and 3:00 a.m. in Zurich.

The scouts (BZ and Dave) have not left Edmunds.We asked to have scouts go so that we could have an early warning system. And the early signs are definitely not what we would have liked. Not conclusive, but not inspiring either.

Kurt in Australia says there are no signs of galactics there yet. We haven’t heard from Vina or Stephen yet in Oz. We do know that the galactics plan to take people one by one. And we do know that Vina, having been up all night, was resting. But again not what we would have liked to have heard or seen.

So nothing conclusive yet but also nothing inspiring. We’re waiting for the first breakthrough to report.

I also have a call in to Linda, who seems to be away from home at the moment.

Meanwhile we continue to work our way through the email, fixing any errors we can find and answering people’s questions.

I haven’t found myself in a position like this before and, if you’ll permit me, I’d like to share.

As I’m coming to see, the learning isn’t only in our successes; it’s also in our failures. Not like we’ve failed yet but failure is a possibility we always have to face.

I’m very much aware that many of you have reposed your faith in me. I know that, if this does not materialize, you’ll have cancelled appointments, turned down shifts, told people, as we’ve heard, that you’re waiting for a limousine to take you to a spaceship, all as a consequence of your having put your trust in me.

I understand what it will cost if the galactics are a no-show. And I feel the weight of that intensely.

It won’t work for me to shift blame, prevaricate, plan an escape route, or make excuses. If this does fail, the community needs the one who suggested it to step up to the plate and assume responsibility or there will be an even greater breach of credibility. I intend to shoulder that responsibility fully if we fail in this attempt to bring the galactics here or us there.

I’ve been reading your emails of support all day and I understand the huge amount of support there is. I really do. It isn’t necessary that someone walk the plank for you and I know that. You may even think I’m abandoning you.

I’m not. It’s simply that if someone among lightworkers does not accept the responsibility, and accept it solely and unflinchingly, the naysayers will heap scorn on everyone and on the cause. This way it’s just one person’s bad judgment. And misplaced faith. The cause will not be harmed.

I’m not afraid to accept responsibility and accept it solely. That will be for me the next way I can serve.

Success or failure is not really the important issue for me. How we are in either situation is the important issue. And as far as I’m concerned, it’s the only issue.

Meanwhile we wait and continue with our plans. The galactics have one more day to arrive. I have full faith that they will. I don’t know what the future holds. But I trust them and serve them.

~~~~~~~~

viking

[joedjemal]

I've been reading channeled material since about 2004. I gave it the benefit of the doubt for quite a long time because I liked some of what I was hearing. All sorts of promises were being made and all sorts of dates were announced for things to happen but they didn't happen and kept on not happening.

There's not one scrap of evidence that all this is anything but an orchestrated group delusion so I lost patience and started examining the contradictions in it all. For a group that say we are all one there are an awful lot of lords and masters for a start, they're hierarchical and militaristic. They are intolerant of dissent. If you don't join in with the group think you are excluded.

One of my earliest lessons was that things on the astral lie. My tarot deck played out in some astonishing displays of syncronicity at times but it lied as often as it told the truth so I gave up on it.

That's why I'm incredibly wary of anything I learn from that world.

This event will teach that lesson to a lot of people who've been through this. Right brain is all very well but without the left it's meaningless. You have to apply both intuition and logic to see things clearly.

The lessons we have to learn are here in the physical and I suspect that any spiritual growth will only manifest into anything major after we die. Of course magical things do happen, but it takes only a single sceptical observer to stop them happening. Those sorts of events are subtle and fragile and achieving the right mindset to manifest things is incredibly difficult. I've made many experiments over the years you have to apply will whilst keeping your conscious mind out of it or it doesn't happen. It's literally a zen process.

If anyone else has in mind manifesting visits with aliens I suggest that they do it in private first, get some physical evidence (the more the better) and only then start offering the public visits. The thing has to be real first.

I'm bored with the gfl and the others maybe this will help bring a few more people into reality so we can physically create the world we want. Everybody seems to forget the doing part of manifestation. Oh well.

[Billy]

good day everyone, So from an hour ago there has been no pick ups. Like i said nothing ventured nothing gained. If you do not step out of the norm, then everything remains normal. whatever that means.

Joe through personal experience it is very difficult not to feel humbled when in the presence of an ascended being. I know this first hand just because i decided one day to step outside the norm and venture out. Which led to yet another wonderful experience on my journey of the soul. The unconditional love and acceptance i experienced was so overwhelming i thought i was going to die of love. The scent was a million roses was also overwhelming and beautiful. I was ridiculed by my friends and family before i ventured out on this journey, But i took that in my stride as most of the ridicule was concern disguised. And if i had not ventured out then i would not have gained the experience of a life time.

So i am with everyone here who were willing and decided to venture out, Like i said before. I would have done the same myself yet again, no doubt there. And i know without a doubt is that your willingness to participate has been heard.

I cannot see how this could have been a social experiment? A test to see who has the fearlessness (or overcame fear) to jump off of Castaneda's cliff? as everything is energy and i am sure the energy of the consciousness of humanity would have been monitored to see how much resistance or readyness was in place before the arrangements took place. but there again when the arrangments are announced then the energy consciousness field changes, and maybe that was the unknown.

I repeat what i said in a previous post, I can see only two positives here, One that if it happens, all good. If it does not happen then a purifiction proccess has taken place. seperating the wheat from the chaf.

Either way. keep smiling.

peace

I look foreward to Linda's update later.

[joedjemal]

good day everyone, So from an hour ago there has been no pick ups. Like i said nothing ventured nothing gained. If you do not step out of the norm, then everything remains normal. whatever that means.

Joe through personal experience it is very difficult not to feel humbled when in the presence of an ascended being. I know this first hand just because i decided one day to step outside the norm and venture out. Which led to yet another wonderful experience on my journey of the soul. The unconditional love and acceptance i experienced was so overwhelming i thought i was going to die of love. The scent was a million roses was also overwhelming and beautiful. I was ridiculed by my friends and family before i ventured out on this journey, But i took that in my stride as most of the ridicule was concern disguised. And if i had not ventured out then i would not have gained the experience of a life time.

So i am with everyone here who were willing and decided to venture out, Like i said before. I would have done the same myself yet again, no doubt there. And i know without a doubt is that your willingness to participate has been heard.

I cannot see how this could have been a social experiment? A test to see who has the fearlessness (or overcame fear) to jump off of Castaneda's cliff? as everything is energy and i am sure the energy of the consciousness of humanity would have been monitored to see how much resistance or readyness was in place before the arrangements took place. but there again when the arrangments are announced then the energy consciousness field changes, and maybe that was the unknown.

I repeat what i said in a previous post, I can see only two positives here, One that if it happens, all good. If it does not happen then a purifiction proccess has taken place. seperating the wheat from the chaf.

Either way. keep smiling.

peace

I look foreward to Linda's update later.

I'll bet you it was an internal experience though and not a physical face to face one. I've met quite a few strange entities in my time, some apparently good others not so good but I couldn't have touched any of them.

I don't deny that you experienced exactly what you said you did but this episode was an entirely different kettle of fish.

I know that there is a subtle world beyond this one, I spend a great deal of time there but physical reality is its own thing and still has to be dealt with however much time is spent in the subtle world and there is an awful lot of deception there you have to be careful.

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

You can trace the GFL back to its original sorce. Ashtar = Van Tassel = Theosophical Society = Madame Blavatsky

Perhaps its well over due that this scam was put to bed once & for all. Just look how this channelled stuff has been allowed to worm its way from its box & away from the Disclaimer & onto General Discussion.

[Billy]

I'll bet you it was an internal experience though and not a physical face to face one.

I don't deny that you experienced exactly what you said you did but this episode was an entirely different kettle of fish.

I know that there is a subtle world beyond this one, I spend a great deal of time there but physical reality is its own thing and still has to be dealt with however much time is spent in the subtle world and there is an awful lot of deception there you have to be careful.

No it was both, Externally physical and visual and internaly wonderful and life changing. Yes discernment and care at all times, but a leap of faith into the unknown does no harm now and then. I can confirm that from experience.

Peace

[Jenci]

Perhaps its well over due that this scam was put to bed once & for all. Just look how this channelled stuff has been allowed to worm its way from its box & away from the Disclaimer & onto General Discussion.

I agree, Bryn.

This is a pys ops perpetrated by "them". The idea that the trip has not happened is because people doubted or didn't do enough to manifest it, is the predictable response of this psy ops.

It's a perpetual cycle of fear and hope to keep people trapped and away from waking up.

There is an opportunity here though, for this community. Many people may feel disappointed and lost after all of this. How can we help them wake up and break free of this conditioning?


Jeanette

[Cjay]

I am disappointed by the negativity in this thread, though I understand it.

We are all yearning for and impatient for disclosure. If we weren't, we wouldn't be reading this thread. I believe disclosure will come soon. Will it be within days, months or years? I don't know. I think disclosure will be gradual, over many years. All I can say for sure is that it will be worth the wait. Hang in there, friends.

Don't hang all of your hopes on this one event, whether it happens or not. And please, no more petty bickering. This is a time to be humble, not irritable, arrogant or righteous.

[Tony]

I am disappointed by the negativity in this thread, though I understand it.

We are all yearning for and impatient for disclosure. If we weren't, we wouldn't be reading this thread. I believe disclosure will come soon. Will it be within days, months or years? I don't know. I think disclosure will be gradual, over many years. All I can say for sure is that it will be worth the wait. Hang in there, friends.

Don't hang all of your hopes on this one event, whether it happens or not. And please, no more petty bickering. This is a time to be humble, not irritable, arrogant or righteous.

Hello Cjay,

You are right, we all have a longing. But this can be used against us. We are been taken advantage of for a very long time.
If a flying saucer came down now, I'd be the first to enter and play with the shiny dials.

But it 'is' all a distraction from what is going on, here on the earth.

It is all...make...believe.

[GaelVictor]

All Truth lies within, the rest is vanity.

[Maia Gabrial]

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
How come only 100 people? I hear they have 300. Why not take them all?
They were out of stretch limo's.

Yeah, but if these limos were really scout ships disguised as limos then they could pick up all 300! :becky:

[Eric J (Viking)]

Well all I can say if (when) this comes around again I'll adopt the same mindset perhaps with a little more preparation in several fronts...

I must say the feeling was at times overwhelmimg to realize that I was going to meet another being from another planet. I can tell you now that at times I really thought this was going to manifest and the emotional charge I got from this will be with me within my banks...This whole episiode has confirmed with me that when this does happen and manifest ...HUMANITY WILL RISE TO THE SCALES OF UNIMAGINABLE LEVELS OF FREEDOM AND CONCSIOUSNESS...

I will press the button every time and my faith will remain intact...

I applaud Ria, Cellador and ETM for taking this stance against the overwhelming backlash which was innevitable if nothing happened... I truly hope you all saw what I saw whilst entering a little into the unknown of what might be ...

The feeling was great ... dissapointed ... a little, but not enough to say I wish I never took part...

Would I do it again...bloody well right I would (will). next time!

Blessings to all

viking

[joedjemal]

I'll bet you it was an internal experience though and not a physical face to face one.

I don't deny that you experienced exactly what you said you did but this episode was an entirely different kettle of fish.

I know that there is a subtle world beyond this one, I spend a great deal of time there but physical reality is its own thing and still has to be dealt with however much time is spent in the subtle world and there is an awful lot of deception there you have to be careful.

No it was both, Externally physical and visual and internaly wonderful and life changing. Yes discernment and care at all times, but a leap of faith into the unknown does no harm now and then. I can confirm that from experience.

Peace

Do you mean solid so you could have touched them? I've seen a cloud come to life just a few feet in front of me and give me a wicked grin, that was real world but also subtle. I've seen bright balls of light and even semi-transparent humanoid figures. I've seen humanoid shadows climbing across the ceiling but none of them could have been touched although they could affect real things. A jinn followed me around in Tunisia, knocking keys out of my hands and slamming doors and knocking over peoples drinks but I couldn't have touched him. He was only partly in this reality.

That's what I think these entities are.

[Billy]

I'll bet you it was an internal experience though and not a physical face to face one.

I don't deny that you experienced exactly what you said you did but this episode was an entirely different kettle of fish.

I know that there is a subtle world beyond this one, I spend a great deal of time there but physical reality is its own thing and still has to be dealt with however much time is spent in the subtle world and there is an awful lot of deception there you have to be careful.

No it was both, Externally physical and visual and internaly wonderful and life changing. Yes discernment and care at all times, but a leap of faith into the unknown does no harm now and then. I can confirm that from experience.

Peace

Do you mean solid so you could have touched them? I've seen a cloud come to life just a few feet in front of me and give me a wicked grin, that was real world but also subtle. I've seen bright balls of light and even semi-transparent humanoid figures. I've seen humanoid shadows climbing across the ceiling but none of them could have been touched although they could affect real things. A jinn followed me around in Tunisia, knocking keys out of my hands and slamming doors and knocking over peoples drinks but I couldn't have touched him. He was only partly in this reality.

That's what I think these entities are.

I do not want to get to much off topic here, My comments were to reasure those that had made the commitment that nothing ventured is nothing gained. And a leap in faith into the unknown, does no harm. It takes courage to make that sort of decision.

But to answer your question, If i could have touched star/light travelling to earth, then yes it was physical to touch, but ones the star/light had arrived it became invisible to me but not to a few privilaged others around me, But the presence was overwhelming, and the aroma of a million roses was physical and went deep inside me, This was on top of a mountain with no vegitation whatsoever only rocks, there is more but another time and thread maybe, The being was Mother mary.

now :focus:

[joedjemal]

I'll bet you it was an internal experience though and not a physical face to face one.

I don't deny that you experienced exactly what you said you did but this episode was an entirely different kettle of fish.

I know that there is a subtle world beyond this one, I spend a great deal of time there but physical reality is its own thing and still has to be dealt with however much time is spent in the subtle world and there is an awful lot of deception there you have to be careful.

No it was both, Externally physical and visual and internaly wonderful and life changing. Yes discernment and care at all times, but a leap of faith into the unknown does no harm now and then. I can confirm that from experience.

Peace

Do you mean solid so you could have touched them? I've seen a cloud come to life just a few feet in front of me and give me a wicked grin, that was real world but also subtle. I've seen bright balls of light and even semi-transparent humanoid figures. I've seen humanoid shadows climbing across the ceiling but none of them could have been touched although they could affect real things. A jinn followed me around in Tunisia, knocking keys out of my hands and slamming doors and knocking over peoples drinks but I couldn't have touched him. He was only partly in this reality.

That's what I think these entities are.

I do not want to get to much off topic here, My comments were to reasure those that had made the commitment that nothing ventured is nothing gained. And a leap in faith into the unknown, does no harm. It takes courage to make that sort of decission.

But to answer your question, If i could have touched a falling star/light then yes it was physical to touch, but ones the star/light had arrived it became invisible to me but not to a few privilaged others around me, But the presence was overwhelming, and the aroma of a million roses was physical and went deep inside me, This was on top of a mountain with no vegitation whatsoever only rocks, there is more but another time and thread maybe, The being was Mother mary.

now :focus:

Similar then. Astral entity. I think that this is presicely on topic. Because I think these entities take on attributes formed by human belief.

They can influence all your senses but it's an illusion. They tell you what you want to hear but it's not real. Exactly like the galactics.

Edit: I call them the Fey, not evil but often mischevious.

[Limor Wolf]

Originally posted by Viking: "The feeling was great ... dissapointed ... a little, but not enough to say I wish I never took part...
Would I do it again...bloody well right I would (will). next time!"

Than nothing was learned... ( sigh)


Originally posted by Jenci: "There is an opportunity here though, for this community. Many people may feel disappointed and lost after all of this. How can we help them wake up and break free of this conditioning?"

Thank you Jenci for putting it so well and with the right subtle tone.it seems to me that we as individuals are the only ones to help ourselvs,no one can do it for us,and this is true for everyone as well. Greetings

[Billy]

I'll bet you it was an internal experience though and not a physical face to face one.

I don't deny that you experienced exactly what you said you did but this episode was an entirely different kettle of fish.

I know that there is a subtle world beyond this one, I spend a great deal of time there but physical reality is its own thing and still has to be dealt with however much time is spent in the subtle world and there is an awful lot of deception there you have to be careful.

No it was both, Externally physical and visual and internaly wonderful and life changing. Yes discernment and care at all times, but a leap of faith into the unknown does no harm now and then. I can confirm that from experience.

Peace

Do you mean solid so you could have touched them? I've seen a cloud come to life just a few feet in front of me and give me a wicked grin, that was real world but also subtle. I've seen bright balls of light and even semi-transparent humanoid figures. I've seen humanoid shadows climbing across the ceiling but none of them could have been touched although they could affect real things. A jinn followed me around in Tunisia, knocking keys out of my hands and slamming doors and knocking over peoples drinks but I couldn't have touched him. He was only partly in this reality.

That's what I think these entities are.

I do not want to get to much off topic here, My comments were to reasure those that had made the commitment that nothing ventured is nothing gained. And a leap in faith into the unknown, does no harm. It takes courage to make that sort of decission.

But to answer your question, If i could have touched a falling star/light then yes it was physical to touch, but ones the star/light had arrived it became invisible to me but not to a few privilaged others around me, But the presence was overwhelming, and the aroma of a million roses was physical and went deep inside me, This was on top of a mountain with no vegitation whatsoever only rocks, there is more but another time and thread maybe, The being was Mother mary.

now :focus:

Similar then. Astral entity. I think that this is presicely on topic. Because I think these entities take on attributes formed by human belief.

They can influence all your senses but it's an illusion. They tell you what you want to hear but it's not real. Exactly like the galactics.

Edit: I call them the Fey, not evil but often mischeivous.

If you think this is ontopic then i will continue,
I had NO beliefs concerning Mother Mary before this experience, I was not a Catholic, I did not know the Catholic faith, What she said was not what people wanted to hear. And not everyone present, 30 of us, had the same experiences, I was the only one who saw the light travelling down, I was also the only one whe experienced the aroma. And according to the child vissionaries who could see her. I was the only one who she came over to and kissed on the forehead. Which i felt but could not see.

Yes those beings seem to be able to transmute matter performing illusions. For example children moving/levetating up a steep rocky mountain at an impossible speed, not an illusion, the sun falling to earth, A 30ft concrete cross on a mountain top spinning round and changing colour, which i witnessed knowing it was an illusion of some sort

But hey it did not take the fun out of it and was an amazing experience to be part of and witness. Life changing for me.

peace

[DreamsInDigital]

I agree, Bryn.

This is a pys ops perpetrated by "them". The idea that the trip has not happened is because people doubted or didn't do enough to manifest it, is the predictable response of this psy ops.

It's a perpetual cycle of fear and hope to keep people trapped and away from waking up.

There is an opportunity here though, for this community. Many people may feel disappointed and lost after all of this. How can we help them wake up and break free of this conditioning?


Jeanette
Hmm, maybe an grand announcement from the Mods/Admin that The Galactic Federation of Light, and it's related "attachments" like AA Michael, The Ashtar Command, et...al. Are nothing more than an collective Artificial Intelligence and Psy-Ops program, and will no longer be permitted on this forum? It seems like those of us with experience and knowledge etc, can talk all we want and point out undeniable facts concerning the matter, yet get vehemently ignored. Yet, official authority members "speak" and are listened to with wide open ears, eyes, minds.

[Virma De Ris]

It's rather sad that again this sort of tactic has achieved its purpose: confusion, anger and disappointment. In reality this is what happens when we look for outside forces to take care of our responsibilities.

The following Einstein quote comes to mind: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

What if we are the butt of the joke? Have you ever thought of this?


Blessings to all!

[blufire]

I am not posting here today to rub salt into a very raw and painful open wound.

But, there is something that is disturbingly obvious to me especially in this thread. If you read all the way through you will find there is not ONE mention of what we, as the human race of this planet can do for the galactics or aliens.

All you will read is what we want . . . . .actually . . . . are demanding from them.

What do we have to offer? We do not approach ‘them’ as equal partners or with resolve to do our part or actually our responsibility.

We have become a pathetic welfare planet . . . . more than that a planet of Takers. We demand disclosure, demand free energy, demand free medical or healing chambers, demand demand demand . . . .want want want . . . .take take take . . . me me me

Read back through this thread . . . not one mention of how we will take responsibility for our actions or roll up our sleeves and do our part or more importantly clean up our own pathetic mess.

So now that it is clear that this has been a farce from the get go are we going to go sit in the corner and pout? Or are we individually and then collectively take a long hard look in the mirror . . . get up roll up our sleeves and get the work done.

Isn’t that the premise behind being what many here call a “lightworker’? We have come back at this time, dimension, and this planet to do a job. WE . . . each of us . . . made that agreement and feel that constant nagging of ‘we are supposed to be doing something or I know I have come here to do something and I can’t figure it out.

Simply, it is to get up. . . man up . . . and do something!! It is not fancy, shiny, ethereal, mystical or magical. It is “get you ass in gear and get it done”.

Stop waiting for the gravy train to come in or the next dimension to come in and swoop us away to never never land.

This is it folks . . .make it special and it is special. When you pull yourself out of your “woe is me attitude’ and do something for your fellow man, fellow inhabitant of our planet, for the planet . . . . then you will see the magic . . . . you will feel and live the life we demand and expect from everybody else but ourselves.

I’m parking that big ole’ shiny limo right in front of everybody’s door that is reading this post . . . . are you gonna get on?

[joedjemal]

I'll bet you it was an internal experience though and not a physical face to face one.

I don't deny that you experienced exactly what you said you did but this episode was an entirely different kettle of fish.

I know that there is a subtle world beyond this one, I spend a great deal of time there but physical reality is its own thing and still has to be dealt with however much time is spent in the subtle world and there is an awful lot of deception there you have to be careful.

No it was both, Externally physical and visual and internaly wonderful and life changing. Yes discernment and care at all times, but a leap of faith into the unknown does no harm now and then. I can confirm that from experience.

Peace

Do you mean solid so you could have touched them? I've seen a cloud come to life just a few feet in front of me and give me a wicked grin, that was real world but also subtle. I've seen bright balls of light and even semi-transparent humanoid figures. I've seen humanoid shadows climbing across the ceiling but none of them could have been touched although they could affect real things. A jinn followed me around in Tunisia, knocking keys out of my hands and slamming doors and knocking over peoples drinks but I couldn't have touched him. He was only partly in this reality.

That's what I think these entities are.

I do not want to get to much off topic here, My comments were to reasure those that had made the commitment that nothing ventured is nothing gained. And a leap in faith into the unknown, does no harm. It takes courage to make that sort of decission.

But to answer your question, If i could have touched a falling star/light then yes it was physical to touch, but ones the star/light had arrived it became invisible to me but not to a few privilaged others around me, But the presence was overwhelming, and the aroma of a million roses was physical and went deep inside me, This was on top of a mountain with no vegitation whatsoever only rocks, there is more but another time and thread maybe, The being was Mother mary.

now :focus:

Similar then. Astral entity. I think that this is presicely on topic. Because I think these entities take on attributes formed by human belief.

They can influence all your senses but it's an illusion. They tell you what you want to hear but it's not real. Exactly like the galactics.

Edit: I call them the Fey, not evil but often mischeivous.

If you think this is ontopic then i will continue,
I had NO beliefs concerning Mother Mary before this experience, I was not a Catholic, I did not know the Catholic faith, What she said was not what people wanted to hear. And not everyone present, 30 of us, had the same experiences, I was the only one who saw the light travelling down, I was also the only one whe experienced the aroma. And according to the child vissionaries who could see her. I was the only one who she came over to and kissed on the forehead. Which i felt but could not see.

Yes those beings seem to be able to transmute matter performing illusions. For example children moving/levetating up a steep rocky mountain at an impossible speed, not an illusion, the sun falling to earth, A 30ft concrete cross on a mountain top spinning round and changing colour, which i witnessed knowing it was an illusion of some sort

But hey it did not take the fun out of it and was an amazing experience to be part of and witness. Life changing for me.

peace

I believe you. The Fey are masters of illusion. I've had quite a few encounters with them and they can be amazing and beautiful.

If I'm right about this, I can tell you what they want of us, they want us to get our acts together and stop trashing the planet. They are an emanation of Gaia. They can't save us though, we have to do that.

I'm satisfied I know what's going on with the UFO phenomenon now. I think we should listen to them.

[Kimberley]

Hey it is Sunday in many parts of Australia now...

To our friends of Avalon that were on the list for the trip I say I love you more today than yesterday and not as much as tomorrow!!! I mean it!!

For me this was a fun mental emotional exercise and hey when I say exercise I mean it we are creators in training so we need to exercise our imaginal vision and this was a great fun exercise that will help us all be stronger for the next excise!!!

I too agree with "nothing ventured nothing gained". So congratulations for what you have ventured and gained!! And how your venture has been my/our venture also!! Thank you!!

I am going to do my best to record the conference call at 11 am est so I will get back to you later with that.; (if I can)

Much love to us all always in all ways !!!



Linda did offer to dedicate her Saturday morning conference call to a session with the galactics on our trip. She’s permitting me to ask questions. The number is 1-559-546-1301 and the access code is 534452#. The time is 8:00 a.m. Pacific time and 11:00 a.m. Eastern time. We will make a transcript.

[Mad Hatter]

For a bit of fun Mad Hatter dons his semantic cap


All Truth lies within, the rest is vanity.
Umm...within what :confused: Would a book written by you, expressing the truth as you know it to be, housed in a library be just vanity cos if I want to be really pedantic what you are saying here is no truth could be shared in that manner...;) (you could well be right!!)


a leap of faith into the unknown does no harm now and then.
I'd argue it is required to get out of bed everyday...:p


You can trace the GFL back to its original sorce. Ashtar = Van Tassel = Theosophical Society = Madame Blavatsky
Any further pointers to more info on this statement ?? :ear: (I like nugget hunts...)

[NeverMind]

Welcome to yourself. Welcome to the only home we’ll ever have.
So.... this was a social experiment? A test to see who has the fearlessness (or overcame fear) to jump off of Castaneda's cliff?

Dennis

I would say, just living through life on this Earth is proof enough of fearlessness. :-)


Are we being given the opportunity to break through the highly filtered perceptions of the collective reality? This certainly brings to my mind the accounts of the early Native Americans unable to see the tall sailing ships of Magellan's fleet,

I once had to write an article about this topic, so I researched the origins of this story. It never happened.
However, I do agree with you that perception certainly can be limited. Very much so.



Can anyone tell me if the Beckow site runs click throughs on adverts??

The reason I ask is that IIRC 80,000 hit$ in a day being the most ever might turn into a tidy sum for someone looking to retire from the alt-community business and I have certainly come to believe that for a lot involved it is a business.

That was my first thought when I saw the figure, "80 000 clicks".
I did briefly visit the website, but I don't remember seeing any AdSense or other commercial advertisements.


Of course magical things do happen, but it takes only a single sceptical observer to stop them happening.

Not necessarily. I have seen the opposite happen. :-)
But that's a whole different story.


You are right, we all have a longing. But this can be used against us. We are been taken advantage of for a very long time.
That's why I said I felt sorry for all of us.
Because of that pure, childlike longing that is disappointed again and again (and again, I don't mean this particular situation).

[Limor Wolf]

Cellardoor,you and I ,we are the likes.we share the same hopes,we wish for the same goals,we have pretty much similar aspirations.In a way,I find your naivety charming.no disrespect intended.You claim to have made your homework,yet,at the same time you say that 'they' have changed the timeline on earth,well,they did not.we did.please think long and hard if the concerned voices around here are giving our responses the way we do because of fear or negativity or because of holding a more full perspective. There is lots of good out there,and there is also the usual playing interests,just as we have here. I will not tell you what to think,or how to act,but I do say outloud that I have expected from Avalon members a much more rational and mind critical assesment on any information being thrown at us at this time.my bad.

Yes, that's it. You're saying all the negative things you are saying because you hold "a more full perspective." Cellardoor's naivete is charming? You are downright insulting. You know more, right? You are smarter, better informed? Well, I say maybe you are not. Maybe you think you know more, and you do not. That is why we say people are entitled to their own opinions. You don't even know me. Why should I believe you have more knowledge, when you can't even put spaces after your commas, or spell? Geesh....

Personally, I find your assessment downright irrational and limited, of the knee-jerk variety, not real critical thinking at all. Or when it comes to the critical thinking part, I find your assessments rather lacking in depth. But then, that is just MY opinion, which obviously is very different from yours. And we are both entitled to have them.

But then I also am very irritated when reading your posts because you won't use the spacebar for some reason, or write in sentences, which makes it physically more difficult for me to actually discern what you are trying to say. What does that say about your critical thinking abilities, when supposedly you are attempting to communicate to people halfway around the world?




Sorry etm567 for my late response, I am having computure problems (malware) wich does not currently allow me to put spaces between sentences, or to edit it later-on on my home computure. I do appologise for the inconvenience of reading my posts, also for my many mistakes and improper english, I have hardly excercised my english up till two years ago and this is one of the things that I try to improve by participating in this forum (besides a lot more else :)

I will stand for your right to have your opinion and I will stand for my right too.you are not the first to imply that I have a shred of patronising in my messeges,that is totaly unintentional on my part as I dont believe for one tiny second that I have more of 'anything' than anyone else (besides some more grey hair -) but if more people will turn my attention to it, I will have to self examine myself.

I do not appologise for expressing contradicting thoughts to what was happening here on this thread,I believe it is a risk for our forum,and much more importantly for our society and our future to act and think so impulsively and be motivated mostly by personal emotions and less by general common sense, and I will probably express it a lot more in the future, as I visioned that after the 'battle' of trying to wake people up to the very different reality of our world (NWO,controlling agenda etc) ,the next challenge will be the 'battle' (sorry for the word) to make our first steps in the galactic neighborhood with as much as realistic (yet friendly) approach and less with the pink glasses that might not reflect the situation in its true colors. Much as you,I would also love to meet our fellow brothers and sisters from the stars, from other dimensions, from close to source, and excersie real unity .its about time as well ~ but as in every family, there are sometimes disagreements, and some unknown intentions and it might be wiser to learn about it and try and be more catious untill we are better acquainted with our earth story, with our abilities and mostly with the various different species out there...a little more patience and knowledge. We are somehow not only representing ourselvs,as some here seem to think,It is always better be safe than sorry.

==edit==

I will try from now on to put spaces after the comas, I think this was a beneficial correction,thank you etm567 for that, I hope I did better this time :-)

Blufire- what an excellent post, I can sign every word on it with both hands


~*&^~*&

Limor

[WhiteFeather]

Did our members board the craft yet? Please q me in. This thread is humumgous, i don't feel like sifting thru the posts right now. Lmk.

[aranuk]

does anyone know how to tune in to Steve Beckow interviewing Grener at 4pm greenwich uk time?

Stan

[Jenci]

I've just been directed towards this site for Lightworkers and seen this posted. You may be interested




Channeler:
Bill Wood
To all lightworkers and lightwarriors,

I am going to share with you some secrets today. That way everyone will know that I am, in fact, for real and that I am giving a 24 hour heads up on what is about to happen. I am happy to announce that 'The Day' that we have all been waiting for is here. That 'Day' is in fact an event. A simple act of free will in accordance with Universal Law that creates change throughout the world. I have long awaited this time but I had to wait for the time to be right and the sign to appear.

That sign appeared on January 25, 2012 when Salusa May...finally...spoke to me.

http://lightworkers.org/channeling/1...25january-2012

And this is how long that I have been waiting for that sign.

http://lightworkers.org/channeling/1...ng-you-tell-me
The cat's name is Zeus. He's an African Serval and a very important part to my mission. The car is a 2003 BMW M3 that was stock when we bought it and I heavily modified myself. Many answers will be forth coming in my interview tomorrow , Saturday February 4, 2012 at 5 pm PST on http://www.projectcamelot.org.

I think that everyone will clearly understand the words that spoke back on July 3, 2011 and understand what has been occurring over the course of the past several months to bring about the change that I discuss in my posting. Unfortunately, the posting was largely ignored at time. It is now, however, more readily understood at this time by the human race. As you see towards the end of the posting, I spoke to Salusa directly for help and help has been continuously there for me since. It is now my understanding that it is time to move forward. I am asking you my brothers and sisters to come with me so I will reveal a piece of information to you before everyone else hears it in an effort to reenforce your faith of the coming times that have long been promised.

In the second interview/the livestream interview, I spoke out of practically no where of someone that I felt very connected to named Eva. I dont know exactly when in the interview I said it but it is pretty clear that I mentioned her. Realize that she contacted me after my first interview and we had only exchanged two emails at this point. I was extremely distracted with the events that were occurring in my life and only wanted to get to safety which I did immediately after the second interview. I only spoke with Eva after I reached my sanctuary here in 'the land where peace began'. Eva is the mystery guest that will be appearing during my interview. She will stating that during that exact moment when I spoke of her during the interview, she was stating her love for me to her son openly. She will also be speaking of many other interesting events in her life that have led up to this time on the Earth. She has been just as driven by forces that neither of us completely understand. We do however feel very strongly. If you have any doubts about what is occurring on the planet right now, I strongly suggest you watch the interview tomorrow to determine mine and hers sincerity and our desire and ability to catalyze the changes that we have all been waiting for.

I will leave you, my brothers and sisters, with this note. With my understanding of Universal Law and the necessity of the free will of all of us, I have announced that I ask everyone that hears my message to donate a dollar to change the world. Please understand that this is not an effort to solicit money. As a matter of fact, I have already used most of the money that I have been given already to create a miracle. I haven't used a dime for myself. The donation of the dollar is an act of free will that radiates throughout the universal and announces to our brothers and sisters not of this world that we are ready to accept the change that they offer us. Only then it can be given. The donation is only the easiest way for me to organize this change. If you truly can not contribute, simply email a heartfelt message to me of your desire for change and that will be just as well. billwood1022@gmail.com On Saturday, I will be talking about some truly remarkable news. For most people on this planet, the announcement of this news will not come easy but I believe that the people that are drawn to this message thus far will be ready to hear it all and accept the truth of it.

So if you feel that you would like to participate in the change that I am proposing, please follow the link below and donate a single dollar. You may donate more if you wish knowing that it will all go to something beautiful but a dollar is all that is necessary. After you do, I will be speaking to those that do on Saturday and you will understand who you are and the simple tasks that you will be asked to complete to affect the changes that we have all, for so long, anticipated and have been promised. Most importantly, you will have renewed hope and knowledge that you were the first among the human race that chose change.

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/websc...=5Q8BQTHSVZ3CA

If you havent seen my interviews or want to understand more, here is my blog. http://thetreeoflibertymovement.blogspot.com/

The donate button along with the explanation is there as well. I will tell everyone this as well. The donation idea is working. As a matter of fact, it is working very well and will continue to work even better after my next interview. I do, however, believe those of us that use Salusa's words as guidance in our lives will be a critical part of the changes that I am about to proposal. Please follow your hearts and determine before Saturday's interview if my message resonates with you. This is the change that we have all been asking for. The only question now is if you will support the changes.

My heartfelt thanks go out to all of you. Wish me courage for this next part of my journey.

Bill Brockbrader aka Bill Wood aka sinj1n

PS...here's a fun link that explains whats happening in Earthly terms. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl6N_HO7iqU

source http://lightworkers.org/channeling/1...l-been-waiting

[ViralSpiral]

Each side of the coin has a reverse side.

[magicmanx]

I am not posting here today to rub salt into a very raw and painful open wound.

But, there is something that is disturbingly obvious to me especially in this thread. If you read all the way through you will find there is not ONE mention of what we, as the human race of this planet can do for the galactics or aliens.

All you will read is what we want . . . . .actually . . . . are demanding from them.

What do we have to offer? We do not approach ‘them’ as equal partners or with resolve to do our part or actually our responsibility.

We have become a pathetic welfare planet . . . . more than that a planet of Takers. We demand disclosure, demand free energy, demand free medical or healing chambers, demand demand demand . . . .want want want . . . .take take take . . . me me me

Read back through this thread . . . not one mention of how we will take responsibility for our actions or roll up our sleeves and do our part or more importantly clean up our own pathetic mess.

So now that it is clear that this has been a farce from the get go are we going to go sit in the corner and pout? Or are we individually and then collectively take a long hard look in the mirror . . . get up roll up our sleeves and get the work done.

Isn’t that the premise behind being what many here call a “lightworker’? We have come back at this time, dimension, and this planet to do a job. WE . . . each of us . . . made that agreement and feel that constant nagging of ‘we are supposed to be doing something or I know I have come here to do something and I can’t figure it out.

Simply, it is to get up. . . man up . . . and do something!! It is not fancy, shiny, ethereal, mystical or magical. It is “get you ass in gear and get it done”.

Stop waiting for the gravy train to come in or the next dimension to come in and swoop us away to never never land.

This is it folks . . .make it special and it is special. When you pull yourself out of your “woe is me attitude’ and do something for your fellow man, fellow inhabitant of our planet, for the planet . . . . then you will see the magic . . . . you will feel and live the life we demand and expect from everybody else but ourselves.

I’m parking that big ole’ shiny limo right in front of everybody’s door that is reading this post . . . . are you gonna get on?

Bluefire…..

Fabulous post…..

Sigh! .... I very rarely post these days……

Today we sit in front of a computer screen and spend our time trying to be the greatest Keyboard Warrior of the forum, when in fact we are actually looking into the window of the Collective Human Consciousness and the greatest library of knowledge bequeathed to modern man at the mere click of a button and unless one lifts one’s head away from the screen and looks around ………we see absolutely nothing and learn zero of our real lives around us.

John Lear hits it right on the mark when he says……..

Live your life with Integrity, without envy ….. greed or hate.

[DreamsInDigital]

It would be nice to see those that doubted that we were trying to point out the fallacies of the GFL and this trip recognize us for being reasonable and logical about this situation and just trying to help. It still surprises me to this day how gullible some people are, it's 2012.

[Tony]

Feeling silly? DON”T.
You trusted and it didn't work out.

Your response shows a pure heart.
I really truly mean that, it's purer than mine!

This is why we need the head as well as the heart.
It is the true meaning of the unity of the two truths.

When the heart and mind work together,
nobody can ever pull the wool over your eyes again.

We are always learning, there is no end to it.
But it can appear a little painful, as the inner conflict
produces a moment of expansion.

While others like myself smile, you move on.

[aranuk]

from Steve Beckow

As of 4:00 a.m. Saturday morning, I haven’t heard that anyone in Australia has left.

People have set up emails that they will launch the minute someone shows up to escort them to the Neptune and, as far as I’m aware, when I survey my groaning inbox, I see no emails.

I’ll be speaking to Grener at 8:00 a.m. Pacific time, 11:00 Eastern time, which I think is 5:00 p.m. Zurich time and 3:00 a.m. Sydney time (better check those last two times).

That will be Linda’s biweekly conference call, which she is allowing us to use to talk to Grener. You’re welcome to listen in. No, there won’t be questions permitted, I’m afraid.

The number is 1-559-546-1301 and the access code is 534452#.

We will make a transcript.

I’ll be asking Grener why the scouts in the U.S. and no one in Australia reports being taken up, although that was said to be the plan.

I’ll be informing Grener that he has sixty minutes with us on the air and even in that time the galactics can pick up someone, given that it’s Saturday, and tell us then and there that the first person has been picked up. (No, I don’t mean pick up someone specially for the show. I mean pick up someone on the flight list and tell us it has happened.)

I’ll be asking him why sources like SaLuSa say that nothing can stop the Light, that they can deliver the Plan, no matter what situations change, and yet time and again lightworkers who take them at their word, at least on the surface, appear to be left in the lurch.

“Trust in us and God that events are going to proceed as promised, and do not worry as to the timing as it will occur in a way that is exactly correct for the desired outcome. Also be assured that the end times will work out as planned, and that responsibility is ours and everything is totally prepared.” (1)

“When you think about the worldwide problems that exist, and the extent of the changes that are coming know that it is quite an undertaking even for us. However, we have unlimited resources and have complete confidence in our ability to deliver the plan.” (2)

“As we have stated, the whole mission has been carefully planned with you in mind, as we quite clearly know your full needs. The world’s population is vast, yet to the Galactic Federation it presents no problems when you bear in mind we have millions of ships at our command. So although time continues to pass by quickly, there is no real problem as far as we are concerned.” (3)

The galactics’ delivery on their promises does not appear to be crisp. Even if they were to come now, they still did not keep at least the first of their promises and that cannot be reassuring to us who depend on them to play their part.

We deserve crispness in the delivery on promises. The world, if it is to take the galatics on their say-so, deserves to see that kind of impeccability.

If they do not appear this time, just as they did not on Oct. 14, 2008 and afterwards, they risk giving terrestrials the impression that they leave their allies in the lurch, that being an ally of the galactics is a risky venture. I personally will not allow this to happen without the galactics receiving our protest.

I know and I will tell Grener how many of you have risked telling your children and friends why you will be away for ten days and, if the galactics fail to come through, they risk putting you through tremendous upset – seemingly for nothing.

I’m sure they will have an explanation for why they failed to appear, but explanations are no substitute for delivering on promises.

Their word simply will not be heeded and people will not be willing to risk for them if they do not show themselves able to deliver today, when so much of the world is watching and so many of you are risking.

Again, no one is seeking fame or fortune from any of this, so I’m not going to say “Don’t miss this program.” It isn’t about me, just as I know it isn’t about you. So you can miss this program if you like and nothing will come of you missing it.

But it is about our faith in the ability of the galactics to deliver on their promises and the trust that they ask the whole of humanity to place in them.

So the session is there for you to hear what the galactics have to say.

I am not afraid of the dark but equally I am not afraid of the Light. And neither need you be.

Stan

[Lost Soul]

Where are the scalpers?

[angel in disguise]

Does anyone else remember the Blossom Goodchild incident?

[aranuk]

I;ve never heard about it. What happened?

Stan

[etm567]

Thanks, Pie'n'eal,

I do not feel foolish. I feel like I have learned whose posts not to bother looking at!

I continue to be astonished at how people can, in one breath (or maybe two) 1) acknowledge that you have the right to your own opinion, and they theirs, 2) imply that their point is right and yours is wrong, 3) express hope that you develop some wisdom and learn to see things as they do, as their vision is true and yours, clearly, is not, and cannot be, 4) hope that you will wise up, because, indeed, you are putting everyone else at risk by your ridiculous naivete.

And more of the same. And over and over again.

I for one am not going to change in the direction they want me to go, because I see that as being quite negative, and I do not wish to go there.

I insist I am quite capable of critical thinking, a bit more so, in my opinion, than many who have stated their opinions-as-factual-reality on this thread. And I think differently than they do. And I do not want to learn to think as they do, because to me their bias is just that -- bias.

There is more information now. I just transcribed a morning talk with Linda Dillon and Grener, and far too many poor naive idiots on the conference call for it to work right. But I need to go finish that. And I don't feel like wasting my time putting it up here. I'm feeling kind of disgusted. Not with Grener and those fellows, but with some of my fellow Avalonians. I know there are many out there of like mind and heart to mine, but they sometimes are not as out front with their feelings and thoughts. Kimberley is! Many thanks to her! And Rahkyt. And there are others. Of course, Cellardoor and Ria.

But there are also all those others.

I'm getting kind of old here, and while some of you might think I haven't learned much, I think I've learned a few important things. And the most important one, probably, is that it is a mistake to try to impose your will on other people. Even when you absolutely know that you are right, and they are wrong. Most particularly when you are absolutely sure you are right and they are wrong. Because that particular point of view is the position of a closed mind, no matter how much it professes otherwise. If you know for sure what is so, and it cannot be otherwise, how can you learn anything? I think you cannot, at least not much.

So, deeply felt appreciation to some of you, and you know who you are. And I can more comfortably now ignore quite a few of you, as you are fixed, as an immovable object, in your positions and communication is thus pointless, as I have no desire to sit at your feet and learn whatever it is you think you have to teach.

I prefer to live in the world of possibilities, not negatives, and I am quite comfortable here.

Ciao! And onward and upward!

ETM
ETM

[Tony]

I do like a good illusion.

EQi8Mycmb2Y

[NeverMind]

Does anyone else remember the Blossom Goodchild incident?

Of course, it was only three years ago.

[joedjemal]

Thanks, Pie'n'eal,

I do not feel foolish. I feel like I have learned whose posts not to bother looking at!

I continue to be astonished at how people can, in one breath (or maybe two) 1) acknowledge that you have the right to your own opinion, and they theirs, 2) imply that their point is right and yours is wrong, 3) express hope that you develop some wisdom and learn to see things as they do, as their vision is true and yours, clearly, is not, and cannot be, 4) hope that you will wise up, because, indeed, you are putting everyone else at risk by your ridiculous naivete.

And more of the same. And over and over again.

I for one am not going to change in the direction they want me to go, because I see that as being quite negative, and I do not wish to go there.

I insist I am quite capable of critical thinking, a bit more so, in my opinion, than many who have stated their opinions-as-factual-reality on this thread. And I think differently than they do. And I do not want to learn to think as they do, because to me their bias is just that -- bias.

There is more information now. I just transcribed a morning talk with Linda Dillon and Grener, and far too many poor naive idiots on the conference call for it to work right. But I need to go finish that. And I don't feel like wasting my time putting it up here. I'm feeling kind of disgusted. Not with Grener and those fellows, but with some of my fellow Avalonians. I know there are many out there of like mind and heart to mine, but they sometimes are not as out front with their feelings and thoughts. Kimberley is! Many thanks to her! And Rahkyt. And there are others. Of course, Cellardoor and Ria.

But there are also all those others.

I'm getting kind of old here, and while some of you might think I haven't learned much, I think I've learned a few important things. And the most important one, probably, is that it is a mistake to try to impose your will on other people. Even when you absolutely know that you are right, and they are wrong. Most particularly when you are absolutely sure you are right and they are wrong. Because that particular point of view is the position of a closed mind, no matter how much it professes otherwise. If you know for sure what is so, and it cannot be otherwise, how can you learn anything? I think you cannot, at least not much.

So, deeply felt appreciation to some of you, and you know who you are. And I can more comfortably now ignore quite a few of you, as you are fixed, as an immovable object, in your positions and communication is thus pointless, as I have no desire to sit at your feet and learn whatever it is you think you have to teach.

I prefer to live in the world of possibilities, not negatives, and I am quite comfortable here.

Ciao! And onward and upward!

ETM
ETM

ETM, I want to be wrong. I want them to exist and be exactly what they say they are, I want to visit and see for myself, but it's been years and years of promises without a single photograph. So many promises and nothing at all to show for it but more words.

We're running out of time. The global mess is collapsing now and the elite just keep getting worse. All those people who are waiting for the galactics to save them could be creating their own tribes, be growing their own food, be creating some real love and light instead of waiting for the next batch of words from the channelers.

Can you blame us for disbelieving when yet another promise is broken?

Come back with some video from inside the ships and I'll eat my words but as it stands it doesn't look good.

Joe

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

You can trace the GFL back to its original sorce. Ashtar = Van Tassel = Theosophical Society = Madame Blavatsky.....

Mad Hatter...
Any further pointers to more info on this statement ?? :ear: (I like nugget hunts...)


Hi, a basic search will reveal:

George Van Tassel (http://www.rense.com/general70/tass.htm) is the original channeller of Astar
Contactees (http://www.answers.com/topic/contactees)
George Van Tassel - Ashtar Galactic Command (http://www.galacticfederationoflight.info/george-van-tassel.html) later known as The Galactic Federation of Light
The Wisdom Newsletter (http://www.wisdomstudies.com/wisdom_newsletter2.htm)
The Theosophical Society (http://www.theosophical-society.org.uk/) (england)
Theosophical Society (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosophical_Society) (wiki)
Helena Blavatsky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helena_Blavatsky) (wiki)
Helena Blavatsky - Blavatsky Net - Theosophy (http://www.blavatsky.net/)
Master Jesus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Jesus)
THE HISTORY OF - Man made UFO's (http://www.echoesofenoch.com/museum%2012historyUFOs.htm)
Ascended Masters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascended_master)
St. Germain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Germain_%28Theosophy%29) (Theosophy)
Theosophy and the Human Dino (http://theosophy.homestead.com/ascension.html)
Blavatsky Ascended Masters (http://www.crystalinks.com/ascendedmasters.html)
Ascended master (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascended_master) (Blavatsky(wiki))
George Van Tassel (Ascended Masters) (http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_ashtar_command.htm)
ASHTAR ~ A TRIBUTE (http://www.ascendedmastersspeak.com/BOOKS.Tuella.ashtar.1.htm)
UFO CULTS (http://www.greatdreams.com/ufos/ufo-cults.htm)


The list is nigh on endless. All roads run back to Madame Blavatsky & her Theosophical Society

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/Theosophicalseal.svg/291px-Theosophicalseal.svg.png

[noprophet]

If you actually want to understand the connections - not just the surface connections - but the real theosophical connections with all this stuff you would actually have to start reading the secret doctrine (http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd-hp.htm).

Sadly most people who are very critical of the organization never bother to actual read this work - mainly because it is massive.

[Billy]

latest from Steve. He has not given up yet.

Posted by Steve Beckow

Linda and I are just seeing at the moment if she can reschedule her morning appointments to allow me an immediate discussion with Grener. I’ve asked her not to postpone the discussion even for a few hours because once the rumor mill gets started, it will be difficult to counteract and may take the initiative away from us.

So I will have word on that as soon as possible. I will be asking Grener at least to take a small group of us in a very public manner to the Neptune in the hopes that that smaller mission will at least furnish lightworkers with the tangible evidence they need that this whole scenario is not somehow make believe.

The arrangement of speaking with Grener via Linda’s biweekly conference call has not worked in the manner we expected. I’m not sure that Linda could find my line to unmute and when we unmuted everyone, there was no possibility that just one person could be heard. So I shall be speaking to Linda and Grener privately as soon as can be arranged today.

Those that were on the call heard Grener say that the plan that had been worked out was not manageable for a number of reasons and had to be postponed in favor of a different plan. The different plan is to take people on board the ship in small numbers.

Grener did not discuss the reasons yet, at least not in a way that was clear enough for me to communicate here, knowing that the first way those reasons are stated will be the way they will be forever understood. I will wait till I have a very clearer understanding from Grener before stating them. He did say that the group had grown too large (originally conceived to be 150, it was larger than 300). But that was not the only reason and probably not the most important.

I can only speak for myself that I would have no problem if people were to go on the Neptune in small numbers. That might be an even better plan than the present one was. But what would be critical is that at least the first small group, and it can be as small as three, go on the ship today. And I am going to advise Grener that that first visit needs to be as public as possible.

I believe that lightworkers need some sign, some tangible proof that all this is happening and, if we can only have some indisputable event occur, at least a part of this mission will have been satisfied.

I can well imagine the disappointment that many people feel. I also know that there are people who’ve told their children or other loved ones that they intended to go aboard the ship and have met with fierce reactions. In some cases sons and daughters have said they will never speak to their parents again if they go.

Others have cancelled work shifts and appointments. From our point of view this is not at all a satisfactory outcome.

Moreover the naysayers will have a field day, as will the maintstream press, in painting this as another weird and outrageous example of moonbeams and fairy dust. And if this does occur, it may sweep all good intentions aside and override any attempts at realizing Grener’s Plan B.

If it does, I will have to leave public life. Not because you want it or I want it but because, if the movement for Disclosure is not to be injured, then the mad crowds of naysayers out there will need a target. Without a target, they will target everyone. With a target, they may focus on that one person and the movement as a whole can be saved from harm. That may be the only way I can serve for the moment at least.

For me it isn’t a question of fairness or abandoning anyone. It’s a question of what to do to head off a worse outcome.

Without someone to attach responsibility to (and “responsibility” is a neutral way of referring to what may be slung around), the people who protest may go after everyone who claims to work for the light, believes in the existence of extraterrestrials and UFOs, or works for Ascension.

I hope that doesn’t become the case but if it does I’m ready to dissociate myself from this work and shoulder the responsibility, not for a flight that did not materialize, or even that did not materialize in the form we were first promised, but for inflaming the other folks in society who don’t share our dream or our intentions.

But before that happens, I’ll be asking Grener to give us one concession and that is to take three to five of us up now. At least give the terrestrials a very public demonstration that terrestrials of the common folk have met with extraterrestrials of the assembled fleet. Show the world that this is happening. Give us proof.

If the galactics will not do even this, then I fear that in the time it takes to get Grener’s Plan B underway, the damage will be already done. The wolves will start baying. The dark will fan the flames of moonbeam idiocy.

Project Blue Beam won’t even be needed for the damage that may be done to people who placed their faith in the galactics and have again, as on Oct. 14, 2008, been left to bear the brunt of a change of plans.

If the galactics will not even permit a very public team of terrestrials to go very publicly to the ships right now and show the world that this is real, then I fear there will be no way to stop the furor. It is that furor that will force my hand and I will walk away from this, not because I want to, but because someone will need to.

[Limor Wolf]

Thanks, Pie'n'eal,

I do not feel foolish. I feel like I have learned whose posts not to bother looking at!

I continue to be astonished at how people can, in one breath (or maybe two) 1) acknowledge that you have the right to your own opinion, and they theirs, 2) imply that their point is right and yours is wrong, 3) express hope that you develop some wisdom and learn to see things as they do, as their vision is true and yours, clearly, is not, and cannot be, 4) hope that you will wise up, because, indeed, you are putting everyone else at risk by your ridiculous naivete.

And more of the same. And over and over again.

I for one am not going to change in the direction they want me to go, because I see that as being quite negative, and I do not wish to go there.

I insist I am quite capable of critical thinking, a bit more so, in my opinion, than many who have stated their opinions-as-factual-reality on this thread. And I think differently than they do. And I do not want to learn to think as they do, because to me their bias is just that -- bias.

There is more information now. I just transcribed a morning talk with Linda Dillon and Grener, and far too many poor naive idiots on the conference call for it to work right. But I need to go finish that. And I don't feel like wasting my time putting it up here. I'm feeling kind of disgusted. Not with Grener and those fellows, but with some of my fellow Avalonians. I know there are many out there of like mind and heart to mine, but they sometimes are not as out front with their feelings and thoughts. Kimberley is! Many thanks to her! And Rahkyt. And there are others. Of course, Cellardoor and Ria.

But there are also all those others.

I'm getting kind of old here, and while some of you might think I haven't learned much, I think I've learned a few important things. And the most important one, probably, is that it is a mistake to try to impose your will on other people. Even when you absolutely know that you are right, and they are wrong. Most particularly when you are absolutely sure you are right and they are wrong. Because that particular point of view is the position of a closed mind, no matter how much it professes otherwise. If you know for sure what is so, and it cannot be otherwise, how can you learn anything? I think you cannot, at least not much.

So, deeply felt appreciation to some of you, and you know who you are. And I can more comfortably now ignore quite a few of you, as you are fixed, as an immovable object, in your positions and communication is thus pointless, as I have no desire to sit at your feet and learn whatever it is you think you have to teach.

I prefer to live in the world of possibilities, not negatives, and I am quite comfortable here.

Ciao! And onward and upward!

ETM
ETM

There is only one suitable response to your post etm567- love,love and more love!
(But of course,you will probably find it patronising)


(from the one ready to sit at anyone's feet
but to be quite honest,rather look at eye level)

Much love,
(have I already said that ? :) )

~*&^~*&

Limor

[blufire]

Those of you who are supporting beckow and the channeled messages and specifically this ‘one’, please help me to understand something.. . . . .please understand I am not challenging you or being sarcastic . . . I am truly trying to understand the thinking behind this kind of event and/or messages.

The magnitude of this is massive with equally massive repercussions for everyone in the alternative community. We will not survive as a unified community with many more of these type ‘events’.

Wouldn’t it make more sense for beckow and a couple trusted individuals FIRST make this trip and meet the galactics? Verify and document everything first and then proceed with the big trips for everyone else.

There just seems to be no common sense or any kind of wisdom in any of this. And now he is continuing with the same thing and drawing this out even more.

He now just appears so terribly desperate . . . . it is a very hard, very sad thing to watch. (this is a response to billyji post #476)

Shouldn't somebody step in and help him???

[Billy]

Wouldn’t it make more sense for beckow and a couple trusted individuals FIRST make this trip and meet the galactics? Verify and document everything first and then proceed with the big trips for everyone else.


Shouldn't somebody step in and help him???

I agree 100%, this to me would have been the prefered way foreward.

I am not sure in what way we could help, apart from letting him know that we are there for him. sending two scouts ahead was a last minute plan, but would have been better planned from day one.

peace

[Eric J (Viking)]

Another update here....

OK, I’ve had a discussion with Archangel Michael and Grener of Ashira through Linda for this past perhaps 40 minutes.

Here is the audiotape of my discussion with Archangel Michael and Grener. The transcript will follow.

http://www.counciloflove.com/2012channelings/020412grener2.mp3

Grener has said that there were three reasons why the trip could not go forward as planned, but will go forward in smaller groups instead. One was difficulties around the safety of those we leave behind. One was the unmanageableness of a large group. And the third was the fact that many people who were coming still have things to clear if their trip was to be successful.

I think what they want to do is to select from the larger group those people who are ready and bring aboard other people after they’ve had a chance to clear a few more vasanas, as we all will do in the weeks and months ahead. But of course I don’t know for sure. This is just my guess.

At first I asked to have our own small group go and was told that a different group was going, I think, today.

I said that we lightworkers needed some visible, tangible proof to give to others, both colleagues, family and friends, to show that this scenario is true. If we can’t all go at once at this moment and show it’s true, then at least bring back that tangible proof to others.

Archangel Michael said that the small group going today would furnish that proof. But how many times in the past have I been a “nice guy” and allowed someone else to overrule me only to find that the people sent can’t write, or can’t write clearly, or don’t want to share photographs, or don’t want to risk exposing their names. So what looked like a well-laid plan can go completely off the rails. I don’t want that to happen this time.

Even though my inner voice said it would look egotistical for me to say I want to go, I know I can write clearly and well and convey what I see on the ships. And I know I will share my own photographs freely and allow my name to be used. So I know that I will bring back proof that can be distributed freely.

So I pushed hard to be allowed to go on this trip – not necessarily for long, but for just long enough to demonstrate the reality of this whole business which so far we only know on paper.

I asked that this happen as fast as possible so that we don’t lose the momentum and our grip on the ball to the naysayers. Once the flood of recrimination comes in, we may lose the initiative. And they agreed that they would act with despatch.

So I apologize (and Grener apologized as well) to all the people slated to go on the trip who let go of shifts and cancelled appointments and to others who told their loved ones they were going, only to reap the whirlwind in response. We’ll go aboard the ships, just not in the time frame we planned on.

I don’t know how people will be selected. Grener said he knew your schedules and would bring you aboard at a time that would fit into them. No, I don’t get the sense that you have to be on a list to go, but I think you have to have agreed that you want to go.

And the black limousines! The galactics’ two-seater and four-seater space vehicles can assume whatever shape they want and can be made to look like cars and then shift into a space-travelling configuration. So, no, they are not actual “black limousines.”

I will see that the galactics don’t use humorous descriptions like that in the future which people hear, including other galactics, and use to denigrate the effort. When Grener used the phrase “space bikes,” I asked him not to but to give me a generic and neutral term for whatever he was referring to. We’ll have to do that from now on, I fear – avoid humorous descriptions and concentrate on clarity.

I personally am satisfied that if I can be permitted to go up onto the Neptune in a timely fashion and bring back photos, artifacts and other evidence of the reality of the ships and the galactics that I can steer my way through the recrimination that may arise without needing to go off into exile.

The rest you can listen to on the tape or read when Ellen and Ruth have a transcript for us.

~~~~~~~~

viking

[DreamsInDigital]

Cheep excuses that's all they are...

[onawah]

What is most disturbing about this scenario and others like it, is that so many people continue to assume that the sources of their (dis)information, which continue to give them false hope over and over again, are genuinely benevolent ETs, but that they just aren't delivering what they could deliver, for some unfathomable reason.
And then it seems they often blame themselves for not being good enough, and this feeds into a lot of destructive self hatred and lack of self worth.

Why is it that they do not conclude instead, as the people who are sure there are indeed benevolent ETs and EDs that are here to help us as they may, but that they would never get up to such transparent shenanigans, nor make promises to be fulfilled on such and such a date?

Why do they insist on believing only in the most unlikely of scenarios instead of accepting that help can be given only when it is truly necessary and when it is truly wise to give it, for the good of all concerned? Why can they not see that benevolent and wise ET/EDs would not be so unwise as to make promises that they might not be able to keep? But that that does not mean that such beings do not exist?

It doesn't seem that difficult to make such a leap to reason and logic.

And what is also disturbing is that (and this case with Steve Beckow is a very good example), when their hopes that these Hollywood-like scenarios don't materialize, they also leap to the opposite conclusion, and blame it on the imaginary ET/EDs for not following through instead of looking to themselves and their propensity for being deceived?

It is this kind of behavior that does the most harm to the Disclosure movement.

Though Beckow says that the Disclosure movement is his primary concern, I would be more convinced of this if he would actually become an advocate for using much more discernment re channeled information, and make a thorough investigation of what have been his sources up until now, rather than dropping out of sight, as he claims he will do.

I would like to nominate him for a new role; using his connections and apparent dedication and resources to following the money trail to some of the sources who have been promising so much and delivering so little.
And doing some research on psyops, and on mind control especially, and bringing THAT kind of information to his followers.
If he is sincere.

That would certainly be a lot more difficult, and for believers in pie in the sky and the easy way out, such a choice is usually not the way.

But it would certainly be a good thing if those who have fallen for this kind of disinfo and have awakened to reality had a champion who could help to awaken many more.

There is a huge grey area here, of course, since so much that the real ET/EDs are doing is not obvious to us, thus making proof of their existence and their help very difficult.
And the disinfo agents are skillful in their operations, and do not seem to have much difficulty at least when it comes to deceiving the gullible and naive and the wishful thinkers.

I think it is the fears of these people that the worst scenarios might actually occur--WW3, etc., that cause them to hope for escapist scenarios.
When they see that the worst hasn't happened and that Gaia's journey to 4D continues apace, then the blinders will gradually fall away.

Although of course, what happens is still largely up to us in the here and now.
I think it is that responsibility that terrifies them the most.
It's so much easier to believe in a savior who will take care of everything for us.

Those of us who are awake and aware of this, will no doubt continue with the work of awakening and becoming more aware, and gently prodding those sleepers out of the gray areas and into the light.
Though hopefully that will not be so necessary in time, as the higher frequencies continue to manifest.

Meanwhile, I think it's important to understand that Fear is what keeps the sleepers asleep, and when attempts are made to scare them awake, or insult and ridicule them into awakening, the opposite effect is often achieved.
Those who attempt to awaken others by healing fear with more fear and abuse may be in more dire straits than the "believers".
And so these two groups have created a little hell where they go on tormenting each other, when what they need to find instead is common ground.

Perhaps 2012 will be the year when they find it.

[tonius]

Thanks, Pie'n'eal,

I do not feel foolish. I feel like I have learned whose posts not to bother looking at!

I continue to be astonished at how people can, in one breath (or maybe two) 1) acknowledge that you have the right to your own opinion, and they theirs, 2) imply that their point is right and yours is wrong, 3) express hope that you develop some wisdom and learn to see things as they do, as their vision is true and yours, clearly, is not, and cannot be, 4) hope that you will wise up, because, indeed, you are putting everyone else at risk by your ridiculous naivete.

And more of the same. And over and over again.

I for one am not going to change in the direction they want me to go, because I see that as being quite negative, and I do not wish to go there.

I insist I am quite capable of critical thinking, a bit more so, in my opinion, than many who have stated their opinions-as-factual-reality on this thread. And I think differently than they do. And I do not want to learn to think as they do, because to me their bias is just that -- bias.

There is more information now. I just transcribed a morning talk with Linda Dillon and Grener, and far too many poor naive idiots on the conference call for it to work right. But I need to go finish that. And I don't feel like wasting my time putting it up here. I'm feeling kind of disgusted. Not with Grener and those fellows, but with some of my fellow Avalonians. I know there are many out there of like mind and heart to mine, but they sometimes are not as out front with their feelings and thoughts. Kimberley is! Many thanks to her! And Rahkyt. And there are others. Of course, Cellardoor and Ria.

But there are also all those others.

I'm getting kind of old here, and while some of you might think I haven't learned much, I think I've learned a few important things. And the most important one, probably, is that it is a mistake to try to impose your will on other people. Even when you absolutely know that you are right, and they are wrong. Most particularly when you are absolutely sure you are right and they are wrong. Because that particular point of view is the position of a closed mind, no matter how much it professes otherwise. If you know for sure what is so, and it cannot be otherwise, how can you learn anything? I think you cannot, at least not much.

So, deeply felt appreciation to some of you, and you know who you are. And I can more comfortably now ignore quite a few of you, as you are fixed, as an immovable object, in your positions and communication is thus pointless, as I have no desire to sit at your feet and learn whatever it is you think you have to teach.

I prefer to live in the world of possibilities, not negatives, and I am quite comfortable here.

Ciao! And onward and upward!

ETM
ETM

ETM , The posts you talk about, at least , are written by real people . I would rather read these 'unworthy' posts than messages coming from 'gods' and 'semigods' which as usual fill our 'Limited' minds with wisdom and 'Hope'. I feel i am maybe one of those 'immovable objects' , in fact i am really fixed with one thing : The solution is Inside, not in Messages from 'above' nor in the conferences of d . Wilckock and not in my words too. They are fun, gossip, as much as your 'Real self' is concerned.
'
I wanted to know you better, to understand why you would feel 'disgusted', i serched through your posts,nothing could i found that talked about you ,Your ORIGINAL thought, only Ra , Wilcock and others,. Maybe i have to search better. If i can say only one thing is : please write about you sometimes, what You think.How can you be disgusted by us, and worship Ra and company.

You somehow feel threatened by our posts ,maybe because some of them remind you to point your attention more to yourself than to what 'OTHERS'. I was once there too, hours and hours of serching, i felt like Indiana Jones ,than suddenly all thet thrill disapered , at the and of the day the only proof you have is yourself. Dont take it as an attack, i talk sincerely and I tried to find a nicer way to explain myself , it seems nothing is nicer than the truth, i mean staying true to what i really think.

You are a great fan of Ra , with posts like this you risk getting under the 51% STO limit.... (disclamer : what is written in this row is a joke :) )

I appreciate anyway your talking openly, with no artificial kindness, right to the point. Thats good habit, reading about light so much we are behaving and talking like 'Photons', simplicity is the key.

[cellardoor]

Wow this thread's still got some legs :)

¤=[Post Update]=¤

89 guests. How's it goin? I know, the application.... nightmare:)

[onawah]

I haven't been following the latest on the Bill Wood thread, so this is new to me.
So is Bill Wood a channeler?
Is there more about this on the other thread?
The lightworkers.org links don't seem to work.
Thanks.


I've just been directed towards this site for Lightworkers and seen this posted. You may be interested




Channeler:
Bill Wood
To all lightworkers and lightwarriors,

I am going to share with you some secrets today. That way everyone will know that I am, in fact, for real and that I am giving a 24 hour heads up on what is about to happen. I am happy to announce that 'The Day' that we have all been waiting for is here. That 'Day' is in fact an event. A simple act of free will in accordance with Universal Law that creates change throughout the world. I have long awaited this time but I had to wait for the time to be right and the sign to appear.

That sign appeared on January 25, 2012 when Salusa May...finally...spoke to me.

http://lightworkers.org/channeling/1...25january-2012

And this is how long that I have been waiting for that sign.

http://lightworkers.org/channeling/1...ng-you-tell-me
The cat's name is Zeus. He's an African Serval and a very important part to my mission. The car is a 2003 BMW M3 that was stock when we bought it and I heavily modified myself. Many answers will be forth coming in my interview tomorrow , Saturday February 4, 2012 at 5 pm PST on http://www.projectcamelot.org.

I think that everyone will clearly understand the words that spoke back on July 3, 2011 and understand what has been occurring over the course of the past several months to bring about the change that I discuss in my posting. Unfortunately, the posting was largely ignored at time. It is now, however, more readily understood at this time by the human race. As you see towards the end of the posting, I spoke to Salusa directly for help and help has been continuously there for me since. It is now my understanding that it is time to move forward. I am asking you my brothers and sisters to come with me so I will reveal a piece of information to you before everyone else hears it in an effort to reenforce your faith of the coming times that have long been promised.

In the second interview/the livestream interview, I spoke out of practically no where of someone that I felt very connected to named Eva. I dont know exactly when in the interview I said it but it is pretty clear that I mentioned her. Realize that she contacted me after my first interview and we had only exchanged two emails at this point. I was extremely distracted with the events that were occurring in my life and only wanted to get to safety which I did immediately after the second interview. I only spoke with Eva after I reached my sanctuary here in 'the land where peace began'. Eva is the mystery guest that will be appearing during my interview. She will stating that during that exact moment when I spoke of her during the interview, she was stating her love for me to her son openly. She will also be speaking of many other interesting events in her life that have led up to this time on the Earth. She has been just as driven by forces that neither of us completely understand. We do however feel very strongly. If you have any doubts about what is occurring on the planet right now, I strongly suggest you watch the interview tomorrow to determine mine and hers sincerity and our desire and ability to catalyze the changes that we have all been waiting for.

I will leave you, my brothers and sisters, with this note. With my understanding of Universal Law and the necessity of the free will of all of us, I have announced that I ask everyone that hears my message to donate a dollar to change the world. Please understand that this is not an effort to solicit money. As a matter of fact, I have already used most of the money that I have been given already to create a miracle. I haven't used a dime for myself. The donation of the dollar is an act of free will that radiates throughout the universal and announces to our brothers and sisters not of this world that we are ready to accept the change that they offer us. Only then it can be given. The donation is only the easiest way for me to organize this change. If you truly can not contribute, simply email a heartfelt message to me of your desire for change and that will be just as well. billwood1022@gmail.com On Saturday, I will be talking about some truly remarkable news. For most people on this planet, the announcement of this news will not come easy but I believe that the people that are drawn to this message thus far will be ready to hear it all and accept the truth of it.

So if you feel that you would like to participate in the change that I am proposing, please follow the link below and donate a single dollar. You may donate more if you wish knowing that it will all go to something beautiful but a dollar is all that is necessary. After you do, I will be speaking to those that do on Saturday and you will understand who you are and the simple tasks that you will be asked to complete to affect the changes that we have all, for so long, anticipated and have been promised. Most importantly, you will have renewed hope and knowledge that you were the first among the human race that chose change.

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/websc...=5Q8BQTHSVZ3CA

If you havent seen my interviews or want to understand more, here is my blog. http://thetreeoflibertymovement.blogspot.com/

The donate button along with the explanation is there as well. I will tell everyone this as well. The donation idea is working. As a matter of fact, it is working very well and will continue to work even better after my next interview. I do, however, believe those of us that use Salusa's words as guidance in our lives will be a critical part of the changes that I am about to proposal. Please follow your hearts and determine before Saturday's interview if my message resonates with you. This is the change that we have all been asking for. The only question now is if you will support the changes.

My heartfelt thanks go out to all of you. Wish me courage for this next part of my journey.

Bill Brockbrader aka Bill Wood aka sinj1n

PS...here's a fun link that explains whats happening in Earthly terms. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl6N_HO7iqU

source http://lightworkers.org/channeling/1...l-been-waiting

[mountain_jim]

Does anyone else remember the Blossom Goodchild incident?

I referred to this back on page 17

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39800-100-people-invited-to-go-to-mothership-Steve-Beckow&p=418693&viewfull=1#post418693


Concerning Bekow's latest, I am reminded of the saying: "In for a penny, in for a pound."

Best wishes to Bekow and to you all taking this leap of faith. Or being 'Blossomed', however it turns out.

[Tarka the Duck]

I haven't been following the latest on the Bill Wood thread, so this is new to me.
So is Bill Wood a channeler?
Is there more about this on the other thread?
The lightworkers.org links don't seem to work.
Thanks.

Here you go Onawah - a link to the current Bill Wood thread.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40009-Is-Bill-Woods-Brockbrader-GLF-channeller-lightworker

[joedjemal]

This all keeps getting crazier. Surrounded by layer on layer of illusions.

[cellardoor]

My old friend SaLuSa's made an appearance. Hope Bill Wood's not tryin to cash in on his name. Interesting development anyhow.

[OnyxKnight]

Alright ...

-It's 9:47 PM, Saturday night here, so most of you are either entering Sunday as you read this, or you are hitting 3 PM. Nonetheless, at very least - You are waaay into your Saturday day. So what the hell is going on? I see Cellardoor still here, online. Aren't you supposed to be on your trip?

Should I hit the "flop" label on this one already?

[cellardoor]

Absolute no show. Just cheacking up on the situation. As you can see, Steve Beckow is convinced this will play out. It's still 13:00 where he is, and he's demanded he goes up first, Bill Wood has admitted channelling SaLuSa!! You gotta admit, this is so much better than the super bowl. Wouldn't miss it for the world! Flop all ya like. ;)

[Wind]

I hope that people would stop believing in things like this, they get disappointed all the time and some might even get depressed. This is just ridicilous and irresponsible in my opinion. First I thought that it was kind of absurd and funny, but it's really not right to play with peoples feelings and hopes. I'm sure that Steve Beckow means no harm, but he should refrain from what he is doing just like Blossom did.

I don't know if we as a community of "truthers" have any reputation to keep, but promises like this sure do ruin it bit by bit.

[DreamsInDigital]

Salusa, GFL, Ashtar Command, AA Michael, et-all all come from the same single AI source.

[Lettherebelight]

This all keeps getting crazier. Surrounded by layer on layer of illusions.

No doubt!

But I still say a big thanks to our four intrepid Avalonians, who were willing to go for it. They always say that Truth can be stranger than fiction. Who knows?

The Bill Wood involvement is taking on a rather suspicious tone; it could all be just a ruse, so that no one is looking at what is going on in Syria today...and its connection to Iran, best buddies with Syria...get it my friends?

Thanks to Bryn ap Gwilym for highlighting the connection with all of this with Madame Blatavatsky, high priestess and guru of the Illuminatii.

Actually, thanks to everyone here...Blufire, Joedjemal, Pie'n'eal...everyone. We may have differing opinions on all of this, but together we form an intelligent, unified take for the betterment of the world.

[Jenci]

Try these
http://lightworkers.org/channeling/135413/i-just-might-have-good-news-everyone-has-been-waiting-you-tell-me
http://lightworkers.org/channeling/152108/announcement-changes-we-have-all-been-waiting


I haven't been following the latest on the Bill Wood thread, so this is new to me.
So is Bill Wood a channeler?
Is there more about this on the other thread?
The lightworkers.org links don't seem to work.
Thanks.


I've just been directed towards this site for Lightworkers and seen this posted. You may be interested




Channeler:
Bill Wood
To all lightworkers and lightwarriors,

I am going to share with you some secrets today. That way everyone will know that I am, in fact, for real and that I am giving a 24 hour heads up on what is about to happen. I am happy to announce that 'The Day' that we have all been waiting for is here. That 'Day' is in fact an event. A simple act of free will in accordance with Universal Law that creates change throughout the world. I have long awaited this time but I had to wait for the time to be right and the sign to appear.

That sign appeared on January 25, 2012 when Salusa May...finally...spoke to me.

http://lightworkers.org/channeling/1...25january-2012

And this is how long that I have been waiting for that sign.

http://lightworkers.org/channeling/1...ng-you-tell-me
The cat's name is Zeus. He's an African Serval and a very important part to my mission. The car is a 2003 BMW M3 that was stock when we bought it and I heavily modified myself. Many answers will be forth coming in my interview tomorrow , Saturday February 4, 2012 at 5 pm PST on http://www.projectcamelot.org.

I think that everyone will clearly understand the words that spoke back on July 3, 2011 and understand what has been occurring over the course of the past several months to bring about the change that I discuss in my posting. Unfortunately, the posting was largely ignored at time. It is now, however, more readily understood at this time by the human race. As you see towards the end of the posting, I spoke to Salusa directly for help and help has been continuously there for me since. It is now my understanding that it is time to move forward. I am asking you my brothers and sisters to come with me so I will reveal a piece of information to you before everyone else hears it in an effort to reenforce your faith of the coming times that have long been promised.

In the second interview/the livestream interview, I spoke out of practically no where of someone that I felt very connected to named Eva. I dont know exactly when in the interview I said it but it is pretty clear that I mentioned her. Realize that she contacted me after my first interview and we had only exchanged two emails at this point. I was extremely distracted with the events that were occurring in my life and only wanted to get to safety which I did immediately after the second interview. I only spoke with Eva after I reached my sanctuary here in 'the land where peace began'. Eva is the mystery guest that will be appearing during my interview. She will stating that during that exact moment when I spoke of her during the interview, she was stating her love for me to her son openly. She will also be speaking of many other interesting events in her life that have led up to this time on the Earth. She has been just as driven by forces that neither of us completely understand. We do however feel very strongly. If you have any doubts about what is occurring on the planet right now, I strongly suggest you watch the interview tomorrow to determine mine and hers sincerity and our desire and ability to catalyze the changes that we have all been waiting for.

I will leave you, my brothers and sisters, with this note. With my understanding of Universal Law and the necessity of the free will of all of us, I have announced that I ask everyone that hears my message to donate a dollar to change the world. Please understand that this is not an effort to solicit money. As a matter of fact, I have already used most of the money that I have been given already to create a miracle. I haven't used a dime for myself. The donation of the dollar is an act of free will that radiates throughout the universal and announces to our brothers and sisters not of this world that we are ready to accept the change that they offer us. Only then it can be given. The donation is only the easiest way for me to organize this change. If you truly can not contribute, simply email a heartfelt message to me of your desire for change and that will be just as well. billwood1022@gmail.com On Saturday, I will be talking about some truly remarkable news. For most people on this planet, the announcement of this news will not come easy but I believe that the people that are drawn to this message thus far will be ready to hear it all and accept the truth of it.

So if you feel that you would like to participate in the change that I am proposing, please follow the link below and donate a single dollar. You may donate more if you wish knowing that it will all go to something beautiful but a dollar is all that is necessary. After you do, I will be speaking to those that do on Saturday and you will understand who you are and the simple tasks that you will be asked to complete to affect the changes that we have all, for so long, anticipated and have been promised. Most importantly, you will have renewed hope and knowledge that you were the first among the human race that chose change.

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/websc...=5Q8BQTHSVZ3CA

If you havent seen my interviews or want to understand more, here is my blog. http://thetreeoflibertymovement.blogspot.com/

The donate button along with the explanation is there as well. I will tell everyone this as well. The donation idea is working. As a matter of fact, it is working very well and will continue to work even better after my next interview. I do, however, believe those of us that use Salusa's words as guidance in our lives will be a critical part of the changes that I am about to proposal. Please follow your hearts and determine before Saturday's interview if my message resonates with you. This is the change that we have all been asking for. The only question now is if you will support the changes.

My heartfelt thanks go out to all of you. Wish me courage for this next part of my journey.

Bill Brockbrader aka Bill Wood aka sinj1n

PS...here's a fun link that explains whats happening in Earthly terms. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl6N_HO7iqU

source http://lightworkers.org/channeling/1...l-been-waiting

[cellardoor]

I hope that people would stop believing in things like this, they get disappointed all the time and some might even get depressed. This is just ridicilous and irresponsible in my opinion. First I thought that it was kind of absurd and funny, but it's really not right to play with peoples feelings and hopes. I'm sure that Steve Beckow means no harm, but he should refrain from what he is doing just like Blossom did.

I don't know if we as a community of "truthers" have any reputation to keep, but promises like this sure do ruin it bit by bit.

What is truth?

[music]

We are being led by the nose away from what is important to this. This is nothing but distraction, look at the amount of post views, the number of replies, do the math and work out how much time has been wasted considering this. Then do the same for the bill wood thread, and send a dollar if you feel like it too. So aware people, and people seeking awareness, instead of following the path that leads to the end of the NWO, get sidetracked into meaningless alleys like this. Nothing is in store for us down that alley except maybe a quick grope with an aged hooker, then a blackjack to the back of the head as our wallets are lifted.

[Wind]

What is truth?

I don't know. That's why I'm searching for it!

[Mightyram]

Cellardoor.

It's situations like these where you truely get to see a persons true colours,and whatever the outcome of this venture you should hold your head up high.
It is people like you and the others who show the guts and courage to put their neck on the line for what they believe in and without it i'm sure this planet would be left with very little hope at all.
Luckily their are many others like yourself who will probably be one of the many that drag humanity into the future kicking and screaming whilst so many others will choose to sit back behind a keyboard and condemn everything that sits outside of their comfort zone.

Myself and i'm sure many others salute you......:cool:

[cellardoor]

We are being led by the nose away from what is important to this. This is nothing but distraction, look at the amount of post views, the number of replies, do the math and work out how much time has been wasted considering this. Then do the same for the bill wood thread, and send a dollar if you feel like it too. So aware people, and people seeking awareness, instead of following the path that leads to the end of the NWO, get sidetracked into meaningless alleys like this. Nothing is in store for us down that alley except maybe a quick grope with an aged hooker, then a blackjack to the back of the head as our wallets are lifted.

There is nothing waisted when we come together in love and hope and friendship, it is something to be cherished.