100 people invited to go to mothership - Steve Beckow

[Dennis Leahy]

Nothing is in store for us down that alley except maybe a quick grope with an aged hooker, then a blackjack to the back of the head as our wallets are lifted.Sad, true, and funny. (I enjoyed your poetic prose, music.)

I think I'm going to start that other thread I've been thinking about...

Dennis

[cellardoor]

Nothing is in store for us down that alley except maybe a quick grope with an aged hooker, then a blackjack to the back of the head as our wallets are lifted.Sad, true, and funny. (I enjoyed your poetic prose, music.)

I think I'm going to start that other thread I've been thinking about...

Dennis

You've been "blossomed". What's the solution?

Catchy!

[music]

Love, hope and Friendship are to be cherished, but these are ideals that are sadly lacking from Beckows website posting explaining why "they" didn't come. This whole show has been a callous mis-use of people's emotions and expectations, and an excercise in division and diversion. I am happy that you have gained something positive from the experience, but in general, I feel these sorts of dramas are counter-productive.



We are being led by the nose away from what is important to this. This is nothing but distraction, look at the amount of post views, the number of replies, do the math and work out how much time has been wasted considering this. Then do the same for the bill wood thread, and send a dollar if you feel like it too. So aware people, and people seeking awareness, instead of following the path that leads to the end of the NWO, get sidetracked into meaningless alleys like this. Nothing is in store for us down that alley except maybe a quick grope with an aged hooker, then a blackjack to the back of the head as our wallets are lifted.

There is nothing waisted when we come together in love and hope and friendship, it is something to be cherished.

[cellardoor]

Love, hope and Friendship are to be cherished, but these are ideals that are sadly lacking from Beckows website posting explaining why "they" didn't come. This whole show has been a callous mis-use of people's emotions and expectations, and an excercise in division and diversion. I am happy that you have gained something positive from the experience, but in general, I feel these sorts of dramas are counter-productive.



We are being led by the nose away from what is important to this. This is nothing but distraction, look at the amount of post views, the number of replies, do the math and work out how much time has been wasted considering this. Then do the same for the bill wood thread, and send a dollar if you feel like it too. So aware people, and people seeking awareness, instead of following the path that leads to the end of the NWO, get sidetracked into meaningless alleys like this. Nothing is in store for us down that alley except maybe a quick grope with an aged hooker, then a blackjack to the back of the head as our wallets are lifted.

There is nothing waisted when we come together in love and hope and friendship, it is something to be cherished.

Ultimately I'm happy to be of service in other people's teacher/learner experiences. As well as my own. I started STO way back. And never looked back!

[Anchor]

A lot of people, from their posts here, seem to assume that people are crushingly upset by this - and they are not as far as I can tell - well not on this forum anyway.

[Billy]

You guys are rocking , All i can say in this moment is I LOVE YOU ALL.

Bring on all the illusions eventually together we will see through them all.

And we promise not to throw out the baby with the bath water.

peace.

[Kimberley]

I've just been directed towards this site for Lightworkers and seen this posted. You may be interested




Channeler:
Bill Wood
To all lightworkers and lightwarriors,

I am going to share with you some secrets today.

Bill Brockbrader aka Bill Wood aka sinj1n

PS...here's a fun link that explains whats happening in Earthly terms. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl6N_HO7iqU

source http://lightworkers.org/channeling/1...l-been-waiting



FYI IMHO this information is so very important... I would like to go on about all of this on this thread and this Bill Wood info... however I am only going to bring out this quote from Bill that I have been trying to remind others about for several years now... I love us all and KNOW how powerful you and I and We ALL are!!! However I know you can only lead a horse (or human) to water and you can not make them drink!!! And I love us all the same!!!


The change that is coming is that the truth is coming out and people will soon see that they have been lied to. Realizing the truth will help Humanity to understand the important things that we should be trying to achieve. We are trying to become aware of who we are and what our part is in life. We know that there is a better way of doing things deep down. We've just gotten so lazy with our thinking that we can be easily manipulated with fear. Humanity needs to be prepared so that it can develop its consciousness of itself enough to accept that what we believe about ourselves is not real. As a race, we need to stop thinking about what we can't do and start only thinking about what we can do. We need to start understanding what is possible. Because once we start understanding whats possible, we'll start understanding that anything that we can imagine is possible. Only because of what we can only possibly imagine based on our level of understanding currently. Anything that we can imagine currently can be easily done by another life form somewhere in the galaxy. Really its all just a matter of knowing how.

[WhiteFeather]

David Wilcock's Theory ,,,,,We Will All Transform As Christ Consciousness, Or Human Apotheosis, if you will. As we shed our cocoon i believe our transformation will become this type of evolutionary process. Just connecting some dots here perhaps.

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

WHAT A LOAD OF COMPLETE RUBBISH THAT BS IS!

NSA IS MY BET!

:tsk:

[lindabaker]

A black Limo? Last I checked.....Off Worlders don't drive or ride in Black Limos....nor do races collectively travel in ONE ship, they hold meetings on ONE ship...but don't travel collectively. And, why still is it being ignored that Planet Neptune isn't even inhabited by a Space Faring Intelligent Race?

actually while you mention that... i thought several times in this post, they say their ship is organic right? and is called neptune? and coincidentally ship moves just when planet moves?
Just to be lil clearer on this one, i always knew we living on a spaceship . It floats through space right? and is organic? and apparently is hollow to some minds. so who says we arent already on a MOTHERSHIP EARTH. And would be really surprised if Michael transport you on planet and says: "You know folks this is our organic spaceship, you were also on one but you werent aware" .. now that is a concept

i wont even start with things like we wil come 100% ... few hours later to stretch time comes sentence: our manifestation depends on you.

And lets say limmo. Now im not gonna be funny here but offer concept.
every single sentence which i read in those channeling is going to the direction people who tracked channel wanted to hear! EVERY single bit.
so why limmo? well try read human mind... in what vechile he would be liked to be picked from galactic federation of dunno.. galactic i guess to feel important?

so imo and from start i was appealing that source is controlled, info DOESNT exist and all is unreliable and unstable to MAX point it can be.
It is easy to spam now forum with i told ya when all saw it didnt happened. and laughing at is what our Avalonian friends doesnt deserve.

So why this guy sticks on this thread and yells that stuff.. because i wanna participate in growing of humanity, HUMANITY WONT GROW THRU ALIENS no matter who says whatever. Moment i stepped into avalon i took my part to participate with rest of great minds here to get to result. Im not cynical im very intuitious.
Im not always right, but thats why i expect to cooperate here a bit.

Thing is that this tread showed me behind that naive expectation a one great thing. You guys have really unbreakable faith and heart.
And i really respect that, dont let it broke if this falls, but stand higher.
We humans will do for what we came here.
We wanted to do it without interferrence and all that channeling and good alien that want to help us is distraction and one big disinfo.

Sit, take time, think about it. Is this what you always wanted? why you would get it? and most importand when in life you grew trhough love and cuddling, or you grow through problems and complications and contradictions.


Best to you all

I really like what you wrote...you have a lot of common sense. I do not recognize the flag above your avatar. If English is not your first language, you are doing a great job expressing yourself. Keep it up, because your thoughts transmit very well. Thank you. Linda

[Mark]

I'm gratified by the irrepressible spirits and the souls that walk the line between the dark and the light, fully cognizant that to go too far in either direction is to give up the search for eternal truths in favor of comfortable and limited illusions. A balanced perspective is necessary, I think the Buddhist 4 Noble Truths express it adequately for all, even past dogma:

The Four Noble Truths


1. Life is suffering

2. Suffering is caused by unreasonable expectations (desires)

3. Suffering ceases with the ceasing of unreasonable expectations (desires)

4. The way to reasonable expectations is the Middle Path

I commend my friends here for their balance. The way forward is not lost, nor are the truths held dear to heart mere illusion. Joy is a journey, not a destination. Bless.

[WHOMADEGOD]

If there is one thing I have learnt about our species is our resolve. The more a human spirit gets knocked down the quicker they are to rise again.

Its that indomitable spirit we all share even when we may feel all is lost we dig even deeper and simply refuse to give in.

As Snowbird intimated, this will serve as an opportunity to strengthen our collective resolve.

If this was an attempt to dishearten the truth seekers, IT FAILED!

[Seikou-Kishi]

Turn your computer surround sound way up and get ready!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcJ-wNmazHQ


I prefer this one, much worse lol :D

Puffy AmiYumi - Planet Tokyo :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZfUmdut3qg

[DreamsInDigital]

A black Limo? Last I checked.....Off Worlders don't drive or ride in Black Limos....nor do races collectively travel in ONE ship, they hold meetings on ONE ship...but don't travel collectively. And, why still is it being ignored that Planet Neptune isn't even inhabited by a Space Faring Intelligent Race?

actually while you mention that... i thought several times in this post, they say their ship is organic right? and is called neptune? and coincidentally ship moves just when planet moves?
Just to be lil clearer on this one, i always knew we living on a spaceship . It floats through space right? and is organic? and apparently is hollow to some minds. so who says we arent already on a MOTHERSHIP EARTH. And would be really surprised if Michael transport you on planet and says: "You know folks this is our organic spaceship, you were also on one but you werent aware" .. now that is a concept

i wont even start with things like we wil come 100% ... few hours later to stretch time comes sentence: our manifestation depends on you.

And lets say limmo. Now im not gonna be funny here but offer concept.
every single sentence which i read in those channeling is going to the direction people who tracked channel wanted to hear! EVERY single bit.
so why limmo? well try read human mind... in what vechile he would be liked to be picked from galactic federation of dunno.. galactic i guess to feel important?

so imo and from start i was appealing that source is controlled, info DOESNT exist and all is unreliable and unstable to MAX point it can be.
It is easy to spam now forum with i told ya when all saw it didnt happened. and laughing at is what our Avalonian friends doesnt deserve.

So why this guy sticks on this thread and yells that stuff.. because i wanna participate in growing of humanity, HUMANITY WONT GROW THRU ALIENS no matter who says whatever. Moment i stepped into avalon i took my part to participate with rest of great minds here to get to result. Im not cynical im very intuitious.
Im not always right, but thats why i expect to cooperate here a bit.

Thing is that this tread showed me behind that naive expectation a one great thing. You guys have really unbreakable faith and heart.
And i really respect that, dont let it broke if this falls, but stand higher.
We humans will do for what we came here.
We wanted to do it without interferrence and all that channeling and good alien that want to help us is distraction and one big disinfo.

Sit, take time, think about it. Is this what you always wanted? why you would get it? and most importand when in life you grew trhough love and cuddling, or you grow through problems and complications and contradictions.


Best to you all

I really like what you wrote...you have a lot of common sense. I do not recognize the flag above your avatar. If English is not your first language, you are doing a great job expressing yourself. Keep it up, because your thoughts transmit very well. Thank you. Linda
The thing is , not only are they claiming that their Ship is named Neptune, but that the Captain/Commander/President? Is FROM Neptune. This whole thing has been nothing but absolute rubbish put out by an Collective Artificial Intelligence.

[Deega]

Cellardoor, Ria, ETM and Viking, you were eager, convince, courageous and a little bit foolish to be in it. You guys have the guts and the pioneer like virtues to be of it, all my congratulations, proud to know a little of you! I feel that you will have a second chance somehow, sometimes, that is my wishes to you.

Being influenced by the Lou Baldwin abduction (history) to Uranus, I felt that this could look similar to his venture and if so, our four Avalonians would of had one great adventure that we would have a delight to read of.

In this Tread, I have read members posts who were scared of what could happened to our fellow Avalonians, and they were probably right! And in time, words, comments were not conducive in helping maintaining the excitement, support of our Avalonnaughts!, and if ever a similar situation presents itself, may we comments differently?

All the best to you.

Deega

[Seikou-Kishi]

Thanks, Pie'n'eal,

I do not feel foolish. I feel like I have learned whose posts not to bother looking at!

I continue to be astonished at how people can, in one breath (or maybe two) 1) acknowledge that you have the right to your own opinion, and they theirs, 2) imply that their point is right and yours is wrong, 3) express hope that you develop some wisdom and learn to see things as they do, as their vision is true and yours, clearly, is not, and cannot be, 4) hope that you will wise up, because, indeed, you are putting everyone else at risk by your ridiculous naivete.

And more of the same. And over and over again.

I for one am not going to change in the direction they want me to go, because I see that as being quite negative, and I do not wish to go there.

I insist I am quite capable of critical thinking, a bit more so, in my opinion, than many who have stated their opinions-as-factual-reality on this thread. And I think differently than they do. And I do not want to learn to think as they do, because to me their bias is just that -- bias.

There is more information now. I just transcribed a morning talk with Linda Dillon and Grener, and far too many poor naive idiots on the conference call for it to work right. But I need to go finish that. And I don't feel like wasting my time putting it up here. I'm feeling kind of disgusted. Not with Grener and those fellows, but with some of my fellow Avalonians. I know there are many out there of like mind and heart to mine, but they sometimes are not as out front with their feelings and thoughts. Kimberley is! Many thanks to her! And Rahkyt. And there are others. Of course, Cellardoor and Ria.

But there are also all those others.

I'm getting kind of old here, and while some of you might think I haven't learned much, I think I've learned a few important things. And the most important one, probably, is that it is a mistake to try to impose your will on other people. Even when you absolutely know that you are right, and they are wrong. Most particularly when you are absolutely sure you are right and they are wrong. Because that particular point of view is the position of a closed mind, no matter how much it professes otherwise. If you know for sure what is so, and it cannot be otherwise, how can you learn anything? I think you cannot, at least not much.

So, deeply felt appreciation to some of you, and you know who you are. And I can more comfortably now ignore quite a few of you, as you are fixed, as an immovable object, in your positions and communication is thus pointless, as I have no desire to sit at your feet and learn whatever it is you think you have to teach.

I prefer to live in the world of possibilities, not negatives, and I am quite comfortable here.

Ciao! And onward and upward!

ETM
ETM

ETM , The posts you talk about, at least , are written by real people . I would rather read these 'unworthy' posts than messages coming from 'gods' and 'semigods' which as usual fill our 'Limited' minds with wisdom and 'Hope'. I feel i am maybe one of those 'immovable objects' , in fact i am really fixed with one thing : The solution is Inside, not in Messages from 'above' nor in the conferences of d . Wilckock and not in my words too. They are fun, gossip, as much as your 'Real self' is concerned.
'
I wanted to know you better, to understand why you would feel 'disgusted', i serched through your posts,nothing could i found that talked about you ,Your ORIGINAL thought, only Ra , Wilcock and others,. Maybe i have to search better. If i can say only one thing is : please write about you sometimes, what You think.How can you be disgusted by us, and worship Ra and company.

You somehow feel threatened by our posts ,maybe because some of them remind you to point your attention more to yourself than to what 'OTHERS'. I was once there too, hours and hours of serching, i felt like Indiana Jones ,than suddenly all thet thrill disapered , at the and of the day the only proof you have is yourself. Dont take it as an attack, i talk sincerely and I tried to find a nicer way to explain myself , it seems nothing is nicer than the truth, i mean staying true to what i really think.

You are a great fan of Ra , with posts like this you risk getting under the 51% STO limit.... (disclamer : what is written in this row is a joke :) )

I appreciate anyway your talking openly, with no artificial kindness, right to the point. Thats good habit, reading about light so much we are behaving and talking like 'Photons', simplicity is the key.

I'm sure some of the waspish behaviour on this thread is from those who feel embarrassed that they were taken for a ride... or not, as the case may be.

[aranuk]

What waspish behaviour?

Stan

[lindabaker]

Assuming the trip is postponed only, and that the entities who are talking by channel are real, perhaps they truly have a messy nightmare and accommodating everyone is like trying to run a cruise ship. Or, some of you may be right, it could be a psy op. So, looking forward and thinking about what happens after things get sorted out. If it's a big joke, then fine, it helps define exactly how to go about the goal of real contact. Who should be our ambassadors? How do we discern between ET ED's who are service to self, and who are service to others? What is wrong with taking our time? It's not the channeller's fault, nobody is at fault here except those who created the lie, if that is truly what has happened. What about these liars? How do we get them gone, on their way, good riddance, see ya later bye bye. A valuable service perhaps. Think about it. Maybe is was a rehearsal of sort, and now you all know how to do it with higher grace, more confidence, and less anxiety. It's okay to have a few bumps along the way to communication. Especially something as important as this. And someone further back had a great question: What did we ever say we would offer to them? What exactly are we going to extend. Think about how it feels when your family stays too long...you love each other but you get sick of each other. I love guests. I especially love to have family. But, do I give up the master bedroom forever? Is anyone understanding what line of thinking I'm on to here?

[qbeac]

... Wouldn’t it make more sense for beckow and a couple trusted individuals FIRST make this trip and meet the galactics? Verify and document everything first and then proceed with the big trips for everyone else....
Hi blufire, I totally agree with your suggestion, very good one !!!

In case this space trip is not a hoax or a Psy Op (and we shall see), that would be a much better approach: take first a small group of selected and trusted people just to verify that the space ship and the ET beings are real, take plenty of pictures, videos, etc., show us the evidence in Steve’s website… and proceed with more people afterwards.

If plan A didn’t work, proceed with plan B right way.

And do it soon, ASAP, in the next few hours or days, not weeks or months.

In other words, please, if possible, don’t give us words (or excuses), give us proof. Thanks.

[OnyxKnight]

Cellardoor, etm, viking, ria - what happened? Its Sunday here ...

[cellardoor]

I've not long listened to the Grener explanation as to why this hasn't happened yet. Safety mainly, one point specifically refereed to my situation, that I would leave my loved ones regardless of the consequence's If this is indeed 100% genuine. That's how much this means/meant to me if true, and I guess, sorry, I know that's not the right decision. As it stands Steve Beckow has demanded that he alone goes and gets the proof.....

Not quite worked out to plan as you can see. I'm still on the fence believe it or not.

[qbeac]

People, think about it, out of the 7 billion inhabitants in this planet Earth, can’t the STO ETs (in case they are indeed STO ETs and not MIB, etc.) take at least one or two selected persons to the space ship, allow them to take plenty of pictures, videos, etc., and then post them in Steve Beckow’s website for all of us to see?

For instance, Alex Collier already went (supposedly), so why not one more person?

In case this is not a hoax or a Psy Op (and we shall see), we should not be satisfied with words anymore, we should respectfully ask and expect to see proof!

[WhiteFeather]

My perspectives on channeled messages are simple, shoot the messenger but retain the message if it may be of some use to you!

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I've not long listened to the Grener explanation as to why this hasn't happened yet. Safety mainly, one point specifically refereed to my situation, that I would leave my loved ones regardless of the consequence's If this is indeed 100% genuine. That's how much this means/meant to me if true, and I guess, sorry, I know that's not the right decision. As it stands Steve Beckow has demanded that he alone goes and gets the proof.....

Not quite worked out to plan as you can see. I'm still on the fence believe it or not.

Did you have any helicopters flying over your roof as well? This is a serious question.

[cellardoor]

My perspectives on channeled messages are simple, shoot the messenger but retain the message if it may be of some use to you!

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I've not long listened to the Grener explanation as to why this hasn't happened yet. Safety mainly, one point specifically refereed to my situation, that I would leave my loved ones regardless of the consequence's If this is indeed 100% genuine. That's how much this means/meant to me if true, and I guess, sorry, I know that's not the right decision. As it stands Steve Beckow has demanded that he alone goes and gets the proof.....

Not quite worked out to plan as you can see. I'm still on the fence believe it or not.

Did you have any helicopters flying over your roof as well? This is a serious question.

Can't say that I did. One thing I found suspicious is since I applied to go, my immune system has been shot to ****. I've had major flu, soars on my face. It's FUBAR! Damn 2nd dimensional entities! Getting over it now though.

[DreamsInDigital]

People, think about it, out of the 7 billion inhabitants in this planet Earth, can’t the STO ETs (in case they are indeed STO ETs and not MIB, etc.) take at least one or two selected persons to the space ship, allow them to take plenty of pictures, videos, etc., and then post them in Steve Beckow’s website for all of us to see?

For instance, Alex Collier already went (supposedly), so why not one more person?

In case this is not a hoax or a Psy Op (and we shall see), we should not be satisfied with words anymore, we should respectfully ask and expect to see proof!
The Andromedans/ET's/ED's that Alex Collier is in regular contact with are not the same as the Artificial Intelligence (IE Galactic Federation of Light, GF, AA Micheal, Salusa, et al) that Steve is in contact with. There is no comparing the two.

[qbeac]

The Andromedans/ET's/ED's that Alex Collier is in regular contact with are not the same as the Artificial Intelligence (IE Galactic Federation of Light, GF, AA Micheal, Salusa, et al) that Steve is in contact with. There is no comparing the two.
DreamsInDigital, you are right, the ETs Alex Collier is in contact with could be different ones than the beings-entities Steve Beckow is talking to. And I am sorry for the misunderstanding because I now realize I did not explain it correctly.

What I meant was that a human being (Alex Collier and other ones) have already supposedly been taken aboard a space ship, and that means that is not an impossible task to accomplish, nor an unworkable problem to solve (example: solving the security issues of his loved ones who remain on Earth, etc.).

So, if in the case of Alex Collier (and other ones) that task has already been done successfully, why can’t the beings Steve Beckow is talking to do the same thing and take someone to their ship too?

Let me put it this way:

We (regular people) want to know who Steve Beckow is talking to.

Are they really STO ETs, or are they perhaps MIB (men in black), or STS ETs, or AI (Artificial Intelligence), or astral beings, or whatever….???

(STO = Service To Others. STS = Service To Self)

So, that’s the first step: who is Steve really talking to? Can we trust them or not?

Grener, AAM, please, let us see you, let us take pictures and videos of you, give us solid proof that you are who you say you are and where you say you are (in a space ship).

Otherwise, without proof, your words can be interpreted as perfect excuses.

[tonius]

I wouldn't be surprised at all if one day i discover earth is the 'Big Brother' of this universe. Would explain so many wierd things going on here.

Too much Bullsh..t to handle for a tiny place like this and 'tiny' minds like ours....I said minds, not souls.

[Mad Hatter]

Ok...its now 8:00pm in Aus in Melbourne on a dreary Sunday afternoon. Having allowed 12+ hours to compensate for time differences around the planet is it unreasonable to ask the question... has anyone been picked up yet??....or should I give it another couple of hours to allow for technical difficulties.

In the meantime anyone care to explain what an organic ship might consist of.... this knowledge could prove to be highly beneficial in light of the fact that space travel does incur some fairly hefty doses of radiation of varying sorts. Thus information regarding an organic susbstance capable of withstanding such may very well have viable application in our current nuclear reactor industry. It would of course not suprise me to learn that it is corn based, given corns ability to travel through the human digestive system relatively unscathed... :p

I would also like to point out that while waiting I have enjoyed immensely a certain amount of cognnitive dissonance some input has provided...

The blanket accusation of anyone with enough gumption to question what is being put forward as true in the eyes of the beholders making extraordinary claims, that they provide extraordinary proof of such claim and then when said proof is not forthcoming (for whatever reason), lashing out with blanket statements that those questioning are closed minded is indeed extraordinary in and of itself for anyone claiming to be seeking the truth.

If you believe, good for you. Maybe I do maybe I don't. But to accuse anyone of being closed minded for asking a question or three regarding your personal stance on a matter... really...Socrates would be spinning in his grave.

Even more fascinating are those that opt to use the ignore button for posters whose input they do not happen to like. I don't know about you but I cannot think of a faster pathway to confirmation bias and lost opportunities to learn something new. It has almost always been my experience that I usually learn the most about myself from those posters with whom I initially disagree.

cheers

PS Thanks Bryn for all those links...

[ViralSpiral]

It has almost always been my experience that I usually learn the most about myself from those posters with whom I initially disagree.




http://tatfoundation.org/mirrors.jpg


Should the observer not recognize his own reflection, he would surely miss the lesson

[Tony]

Just because someone puts a different aspect
to a situation does not mean it is negative.

If one lives in constant hope,
because of a constant fear,
that is a constant negative life.

If a thing is true at every aspect,
it has to be true at any part of the circle.

Do not forget the object of this forum,
to find the truth, not arguing, and being
quick to take offence.

Being positive does not mean, pouring sweet
onto everything and hoping that is right!

It is snowing here, and the birds are on the
path eating. Usually they are squabbling,
but today they see the 'need' just to eat...

13480
...No squabbling today!

[Mad Hatter]

Should the observer not recognize his own reflection, he would surely miss the lesson

Bugger...I missed it again... one of these days I'll get the hang of putting brain into gear before mouth...:p

[Phoenix1304]

I wasn’t aware of Steven Beckow until now. Sadly, I’m only too aware of Blossom Goodchild. I felt only compassion for her (as I do now for Beckow & co.) when her tremendous excitement was dashed. She was betrayed and humiliated. Ouch. Ego is the source of humiliation, those of the critics as well as the ‘victims’. It’s not important. I didn’t believe or disbelieve her, I was aware of her ego though, and pride goes before a fall they say. She's still channelling her Galactic 'friends', who deserved nothing more than to be resolutely dumped. I stopped reading long ago. I doubt I'll pay further attention to Beckow unless he takes on the task of rooting out the deception. Puhlease, are we really supposed to believe that ET can't accommodate people and that you should carry on following this for another three months to clear your 'vasanas'. Whoever's in the heads of these channellers are absolute swine!

Not knowing anything about Beckow, his initial statement about the tour struck me as laughingly prosaic given the enormity of the event, but this would be an obvious method of disclosure and bypassing the PTW so I remained ever hopeful. Now it seems more logical to deduce that both Blossom and Beckow are being played, perhaps to test the waters for a false flag? How many will jump aboard? I confess, that if it wasn't for my fundamental distrust of channellers I'd have been signing up with the members here that did.

It seems to me that in this vast universe there has to be Federations of some planets, at least, and communion between advanced civilisations. It would be wonderful for us to benefit from the knowledge of such civilisations if enough of us can prove we deserve to thrive as a species, perhaps that’s what they’ve been waiting for. When the time comes, I imagine we will sidestep the channellers and just have open contact.

I agree that we don't need useless distractions from the very real problems facing our planet, check out the movie in my ignored post in General, 'Cultural Creatives - The Revolution' for some comfort in this regard.

In closing, I'd like to share a quote I had pinned on my kitchen wall, a hundred years ago when I was a struggling artist. I didn't know whose it was, until recently, when I saw it posted, maybe here? It seems very apposite at the moment.

"It's not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or when the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement; and who at the worst if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat." Theodore Roosevelt.

[RMorgan]

Hey guys,

Well, those who know my posts and replies here on PA, know as well that I´m a very respectful man.

So, please, take this with all due respect. I don´t mean to offend anyone, but I have to say this.

This whole situation only shows us how gullible and naive most people here at PA are. This is one of the reasons that make every new-age charlatan out there so successful.

Some people need to believe something and these people know that.

The first reaction I´ve got about this posts was: Are you serious????Ets picking you up at home for a trip, in a black limousine?????

(This is still my reaction.)

This is unbelievable!!

And, for those who will still believe Backow´s excuses about it, well, all I can say is that I´m really sorry for you. I hope you to wake up some day.

Some people will also say that it was a set up to discredit Beckow. Well, it could be, but the probabilities that this is all just fruits of his ill imagination, or that he created this situation to achieve certain still unknown results are much bigger. They are not being played; They are playing with you.

These men are always so predictable...I´m not any kind of prophet, but if you check out, there are countless threads here on PA (including this one) were I could predict the results, using only pure discernment and logic. Maybe you should try using such tools sometimes as well...

It´s so easy to blame other people for their mistakes... They could say they were victims of a CIA psy-ops to discredit them (they probably will come up with a very fantastic excuse)...Or they could just take the responsability for it, like honest men do.

Some people will say that the ETs were forced to change their plans for some reason. Well, this is not like a date you have to cancel because you´ve remembered of a dentist appointment, guys...If you can´t trust an ET race to be punctual on such an important date, you shouldn´t trust them enough to get inside their ship as well.

Please people, you have to stop dreaming (dreaming is good, but when you dream too deep, it becomes delusion). You have to wake up!

Cheers,

Raf.

PS: This thread used to be pretty busy during the last few days. Now, it´s just moving gradually towards the oblivion. For those who choose to just forget this situation, well, just get ready for the next scam. I guarantee that there´s another brand new hoax just around the corner, waiting for you.

[DreamsInDigital]

To Answer the question regarding Organic Ships/Crafts. And, granted OnyxKnight is a much more knowledgeable source on these. As, I am only basing this on what my own contacts have told me, and memories. Some races/species incorporate Organic/biological material into the construction of their crafts, some even have "living" crafts. Then there are those like most of the humanoid races that have bio-interactive controls, which in laymen terms. The ships are programmed to only operate when the pilot/owner is present because some of their DNA was incorporated into the control system during construction. I can't comment regarding the Radiological aspects of them though because that's something I'm not familiar with in relation to Organic Based Ships/Crafts. My knowledge there sits specifically with Tau Cetian Military/Intelligence Crafts/Ships and I ultimately can't comment on the technological capabilities of those as I am not permitted to.

[WhiteFeather]

I'm gratified by the irrepressible spirits and the souls that walk the line between the dark and the light, fully cognizant that to go too far in either direction is to give up the search for eternal truths in favor of comfortable and limited illusions. A balanced perspective is necessary, I think the Buddhist 4 Noble Truths express it adequately for all, even past dogma:

The Four Noble Truths


1. Life is suffering

2. Suffering is caused by unreasonable expectations (desires)

3. Suffering ceases with the ceasing of unreasonable expectations (desires)

4. The way to reasonable expectations is the Middle Path

I commend my friends here for their balance. The way forward is not lost, nor are the truths held dear to heart mere illusion. Joy is a journey, not a destination. Bless.

On Suffering:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Deq_1lg9Dlo

[jackovesk]

I guess we won't be hearing from Viking for the next 14 days..?

:pound:

[NeverMind]

think about it, out of the 7 billion inhabitants in this planet Earth, can’t the STO ETs (in case they are indeed STO ETs and not MIB, etc.) take at least one or two selected persons to the space ship, allow them to take plenty of pictures, videos, etc., and then post them in Steve Beckow’s website for all of us to see?

Or, if logistics is the problem - and even if it isn't - why not do some of the things suggested in one of my earlier posts (here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39800-100-people-invited-to-go-to-mothership-Steve-Beckow&p=419274&viewfull=1#post419274))?

Namely:

* Send a series of clear radio signals.

or

* Intercept a popular TV channel or two for a few seconds and make a statement, predicting your next moves (which you then follow through).

or

* Appear, clearly visibly and unmistakably, above international waters - not far from land, just out of reach of any individual country's authority.

or

* Make multiple simultaneous appearances on very visible public spaces all over the world.

or

* Send invitations to a smaller group, consisting of members of the media, various heads of states, and other prominent as well as private individuals, from all over the world.


It is a question from a naive Earthling, of course, but I believe it deserves to be asked.
Nay, I insist it be asked.
And replied, if it's not too much trouble. :)

[OnyxKnight]

Except for Cellardoor, yes, we wont hear from any of the others, for at least 2 weeks. They would probably wait til the last day to see if something happens.

[jackovesk]

Except for Cellardoor, yes, we wont hear from any of the others, for at least 2 weeks. They would probably wait til the last day to see if something happens.

Aint that the TRUTH..! :yes4:

[cellardoor]

Can't we do it again?.......

tut! :D

[Lifebringer]

Back on Valentines day, what better show of love.

[Jenci]

Just because someone puts a different aspect
to a situation does not mean it is negative.

If one lives in constant hope,
because of a constant fear,
that is a constant negative life.

If a thing is true at every aspect,
it has to be true at any part of the circle.

Do not forget the object of this forum,
to find the truth, not arguing, and being
quick to take offence.

Being positive does not mean, pouring sweet
onto everything and hoping that is right!

It is snowing here, and the birds are on the
path eating. Usually they are squabbling,
but today they see the 'need' just to eat...

13480
...No squabbling today!

I love that picture Tony! :)

Jeanette

[Zillah]

Here is James Gilliland's response to this situation -- I know many of you here including myself respect him, and his perspective is greatly appreciated.

(I apologize if this was shared, I cant bring it to myself to scroll through 28 pages) :) <3




We are overwhelmed with emails asking that I speak on this matter. I have already spoken yet not at length concerning the Mother Ship Neptune giving everyone a joy ride. We said there is no knowledge of any planned mass pickup or joy rides from the beings we are in contact with. We also said this does not fit into their ways or universal law of which they must work within. I find it odd that a master race would choose the name of a planet in our own solar system for their mother ship. Picking people up in black limousines that transform into space ships sounds like the old Masters of the Far East books or the Transformers. If they wanted to be discrete maybe a Volks Wagon bus or Ford Taurus might be a better cloak.

That being said there is a deeper level of understanding that needs to come into play. Training with the T.I C. Teachings of the Inner Christ and the Tibetan Foundation as well as years of study with Yogis and Lamas etc. has given the wisdom of discernment. Just because you are dead, an ET or an unseen entity does not mean you are enlightened. There are faker spirits, tricksters that love to interfere. Not having the inner sensitivity or training in healing unseen negative influences one can easily be misled. They often use flattery, you are the chosen one, special, etc. In the unified field we are all one, there is no separation and in the highest of levels there are no levels. It is called Omniscient or Omnipresence, one with everything aware of everything within your fields and some fields hold several dimensions. You can have a wealth of accurate, positive information then be misled and we all know what the masses do with one error. There are safeguards to pure channeling and they are in the books, Reunion with Source and Becoming Gods. www.eceti.org We highly recommend people reading these books before they get into channeling or delivering messages from unseen entities.

Another aspect to false information is psyopps. They will give disinformation or inside information to set up people. It will have 9 truths and 1 lie to steer information in the direction they want. They can also remote influence with trained psychics and technology. Implant messages, thoughts and feelings you would think were your own or some benevolent source. Discernment is the key. Many fall for this because they want to be the one with the breaking news, the new information often which; has to be wild and crazy never before told to humanity. The ego is very tricky and many a good soul have been mislead through the ego. All information has to come through the mind here on this dimension where it is often altered to fit within the reference points of the individual. Channeled messages will have a percentage of accuracy and it is up to us to discern whether or not the message has been influenced by a desired outcome.

There are safeguards for pure channeling the first and foremost is learning how to heal unseen negative influences then maintain a protected space holding out any intrusions. The tools are taught in the Self Mastery Classes. Always run any information through your own discernment and if it does not feel right or entirely accurate just put it on the shelf. It will return sometimes several times if it is necessary for your evolution. We all need to release the past, heal any wounds, traumas or wrong conclusions from past experiences. This includes past lives as well to be a clear channel. The more we clear the higher the percentage of accuracy. Love, Joy, Bliss, Service to Humanity and the Earth, oneness are the keys for discernment. Sometimes tough love is in order yet it is not done in competition or a need to put down another it is to heal or help them evolve. Energetically you can feel the difference. It is important to realize everyone is doing the best they can with the reference points and tools available to them. No one is infallible. Look at the intent and maintain discernment. If a mistake is made learn from it. There is a saying, I never made a mistake, I manifested a lot of things and gained a lot of wisdom.” How do you know what works without experiencing what doesn’t not knowing in advance the two? We are getting a crash course in what works and what doesn’t. The time between the thought, action and manifestation is growing shorter. Gain the wisdom from your mistakes, forgive yourself and others, continue your evolution. This is the quickest path to enlightenment. You can blame and project yet very shortly you will see three fingers pointing back at yourself for the one you are pointing at others.

Be well,
James Gilliland
www.eceti.org
www.bbsradio.com
www.worldpuja.net

[aranuk]

Hey guys,

Well, those who know my posts and replies here on PA, know as well that I´m a very respectful man.

So, please, take this with all due respect. I don´t mean to offend anyone, but I have to say this.

This whole situation only shows us how gullible and naive most people here at PA are. This is one of the reasons that make every new-age charlatan out there so successful.

Some people need to believe something and these people know that.

The first reaction I´ve got about this posts was: Are you serious????Ets picking you up at home for a trip, in a black limousine?????

(This is still my reaction.)

This is unbelievable!!

And, for those who will still believe Backow´s excuses about it, well, all I can say is that I´m really sorry for you. I hope you to wake up some day.

Some people will also say that it was a set up to discredit Beckow. Well, it could be, but the probabilities that this is all just fruits of his ill imagination, or that he created this situation to achieve certain still unknown results are much bigger. They are not being played; They are playing with you.

These men are always so predictable...I´m not any kind of prophet, but if you check out, there are countless threads here on PA (including this one) were I could predict the results, using only pure discernment and logic. Maybe you should try using such tools sometimes as well...

It´s so easy to blame other people for their mistakes... They could say they were victims of a CIA psy-ops to discredit them (they probably will come up with a very fantastic excuse)...Or they could just take the responsability for it, like honest men do.

Some people will say that the ETs were forced to change their plans for some reason. Well, this is not like a date you have to cancel because you´ve remembered of a dentist appointment, guys...If you can´t trust an ET race to be punctual on such an important date, you shouldn´t trust them enough to get inside their ship as well.

Please people, you have to stop dreaming (dreaming is good, but when you dream too deep, it becomes delusion). You have to wake up!

Cheers,

Raf.

PS: This thread used to be pretty busy during the last few days. Now, it´s just moving gradually towards the oblivion. For those who choose to just forget this situation, well, just get ready for the next scam. I guarantee that there´s another brand new hoax just around the corner, waiting for you.

Whilst you talk a lot of sense most of the time Raf, may I say you do not talk sense all the time. You accuse over two thousand members of Avalon to be gullible. Is this a nice thing to say to your family to which you belong? I think not. I think you are being rude to most people here. I am a member here and I will say that I represent the majority of members and their opinions on spiritual matters and matters of alien life in the universe. If I were to, and I have, recommend people to try and join here I would not have warned them that the majority of people here are gullible. I certainly would not have done that as it would have had a negative effect on them to join here.

Some people like you here claim to be never fooled by anyone. You seem to infer that you are incapable of being fooled by anyone. May I suggest that you are lying or at least in the few years on this planet you have never trusted anyones word on anything? I doubt that very much and if anyone dares to believe you I think they must be gullible.

There are insurance people convincing millions of people every day that they should take out policies for this and that as it makes good sense etc. People like you of course will always read the small print and say not on my life will I do such a thing. Plumbers will visit you and tell you that your heating boiler has failed because of some part has failed of which he will have to order. When you and your family are sitting at home freezing you being not a gullible person of course will not believe the plumber will you? I think not. I think you will trust him because you want your family to be warmed and have hot water.

Please do not call the majority of the good people here gullible again.

Stan

[aranuk]

I was defending the integrity of a majority of 4,911 people on this forum. That means that at least 2,456 people here. Not just the four members who were on the list. What say you? The ones that were accused of being gullible and naive.

Stan

[cellardoor]

I was defending the integrity of a majority of 4,911 people on this forum. That means that at least 2,456 people here. Not just the four members who were on the list. What say you? The ones that were accused of being gullible and naieve.

Stan

I think on the whole people were really polite and supportive of us 4, it was a credit to open debate. But I couldn't and wouldn't speak for anyone else but my self. I really appreciated the experience.

[aranuk]

Raf said you are gullible and naive. He also said that the majority of people here are as well. Well Michael are you gullible and naive? Do you think that most of us are?

Stan

[cellardoor]

I might not know it all, but not one person here knows the whole truth. Raf is another part of me and how could I not Love that? We are creators and I love the fact that we are one. I see it on Avalon it is a group mind of great potential. Every single one of us. I hope I can reach out to Raf and say that I am not as stupid as people think but that would be feeding my ego and would provoke a defensive stance. I do really wish we could just get along. I need to say aranuk thank you so much for standing in your truth, I admire that greatly in people.

Much love to you my friend

[NewFounderHome]

Well I must say then this thread did teach me several thing.

1. I'm not sure now then I would share with the others on this forum if I would have received a ticket for the trip.
2. It was sure interesting to find out the folks that would have what it takes to go into the unknown. ( congrad's to the 4)
3. It is in situation like this then we find the folks then we would have more of affinity or idea's in comun.
4. I did learn then we are not all at the same stage in our quest.
5. But at the end of the day we all want a better live and situation for us all.

[rfrankh53]

Hello friends,
I was on the list of people invited to go on this trip...for me it has been a long time intention and the deepest desire of my life to meet the galactics and reunite with family from Sirius. I have been holding this dream and desire for some time now... the date thing came up, I signed on and gave no energy to "if". It was simply, "I am at the service of disclosure in whatever way I can help...I am available. My ego stayed out of it...It was just my desire to meet them and exchange cultures. The day passed without any emotional "disappointment" I have waited my entire life for this, I already know it will happen, I just don't know when. I am aware my task is to raise my consciousness and manifest this and focus as if it has already happened. I visit the galactics in dreams and have a clear picture already. For me it is simple, when it is time it will be time. Until then I will continue in the service of the ONE...I have learned a few useful things in this process. One I need contact with my higher self. Two, I need to reach out to the Source and stop following channels, as we are ONE... I need to make contact clearer contact telepathically myself. This is happening and I seem to get this warm smile and "your on the right track." So I have to hold this vibration of love and light and continue to ask for contact. I am fine. I hold no one responsible and criticize NO ONE for the efforts to bring disclosure to the table no matter what the outcome. Channels are human too.

[TelosianEmbrace]

Just an observation on what happened to me on the day. I was on the long, long, extended last minute if there's room for one more though its never going to happen because Grener said only 100 list.:phone::hand: I lay down and tuned in. I gave permission for the Galactics to arrive. I actually felt some sort of beam scanning my body. It went up and down from my feet to my head. It felt like you feel when you are underwater with whalesong, though more prosaic. The energy moved through me, energetically, as though my physical body meant nothing.

[Eric J (Viking)]

I guess we won't be hearing from Viking for the next 14 days..?

:pound:

Ha Ha ... funny Jacko ... If you checked my last few posts you would have known that I am still here on this planet...


Well all I can say if (when) this comes around again I'll adopt the same mindset perhaps with a little more preparation in several fronts...

I must say the feeling was at times overwhelmimg to realize that I was going to meet another being from another planet. I can tell you now that at times I really thought this was going to manifest and the emotional charge I got from this will be with me within my banks...This whole episiode has confirmed with me that when this does happen and manifest ...HUMANITY WILL RISE TO THE SCALES OF UNIMAGINABLE LEVELS OF FREEDOM AND CONCSIOUSNESS...

I will press the button every time and my faith will remain intact...

I applaud Ria, Cellador and ETM for taking this stance against the overwhelming backlash which was innevitable if nothing happened... I truly hope you all saw what I saw whilst entering a little into the unknown of what might be ...

The feeling was great ... dissapointed ... a little, but not enough to say I wish I never took part...

Would I do it again...bloody well right I would (will). next time!


Hey I know you meant it tongue in cheek !! ... if it does ever happen you'll know about it my friend...

viking

~~~~~~~~


Hello friends,
I was on the list of people invited to go on this trip...for me it has been a long time intention and the deepest desire of my life to meet the galactics and reunite with family from Sirius. I have been holding this dream and desire for some time now... the date thing came up, I signed on and gave no energy to "if". It was simply, "I am at the service of disclosure in whatever way I can help...I am available. My ego stayed out of it...It was just my desire to meet them and exchange cultures. The day passed without any emotional "disappointment" I have waited my entire life for this, I already know it will happen, I just don't know when. I am aware my task is to raise my consciousness and manifest this and focus as if it has already happened. I visit the galactics in dreams and have a clear picture already. For me it is simple, when it is time it will be time. Until then I will continue in the service of the ONE...I have learned a few useful things in this process. One I need contact with my higher self. Two, I need to reach out to the Source and stop following channels, as we are ONE... I need to make contact clearer contact telepathically myself. This is happening and I seem to get this warm smile and "your on the right track." So I have to hold this vibration of love and light and continue to ask for contact. I am fine. I hold no one responsible and criticize NO ONE for the efforts to bring disclosure to the table no matter what the outcome. Channels are human too.

Thanks for coming forward Frank...makes me wonder how many here applied !

~~~~~~~~

Interesting response here at ATS

irst Ever Post From The MotherShip Neptune!!! -

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1773987/pg1

02/04/2012

It was a long tour. It's a big ship.
A literal flying city. Sorry I didn't report back sooner. I was
exhausted. The amount of wondrous things I saw and all the information
I learned can really tire one out. Anyway only a small number of folks
were actually picked up. 25 that I counted personally. It was told to
use that Mr Beckow and a lot of others could not be picked up at this
time due to the fact that Mr Beckow made all of this too public. It was
suppose to be a behind the scenes first step. But with all the
attention on Mr Beckow it was almost impossible for them to retrieve
him and most of the others as there were safety concerns. We were told
that Mr Beckow and others were put under surveillance after all this
becoming so public against the wishes of those on the Neptune. But they
said they do appreciate all the work he has done and he will be
contacted personally at the first possible time when it is safe.

Today I am allowed to take photos and
post them back to earthnet. I have a few mandatory training exercises I
need to go do but I will check back in later. This is all so surreal.
Can't believe this is actually happening. Mr Beckow made this too
public and had some unsavory intelligence types watching his every
move. There was no way they could have picked him up without incident
is what we were told. I have taken over 200 photos. However the
terminals on the ship don't have a USB port so I will ask the adviser
assigned to me my best option for uploading some of these photos the
next time I see her. You should see the clothes these people wear.
quite cool

And I can assure you this trip was
most definitely not canceled. It was revised and made smaller. You guys
gotta remember there are some very powerful people that don't want this
open contact between our space family and us to take place. Especially
by passing the 'official government channels'. Might we actually learn
the truth for ourselves without 'gov't officials' filtering it first!
this is inevitable. And from what I"ve learned what you gotta realize
is that the Earth is equivalent to a backwoods small town in the big
galactic picture. There are many billions more humans living throughout
the galaxy than on Earth.

These other humans see us as quite
naive babies actually. Like a tribe in the Amazon who has not made
contact with the rest of the world. On top of that they see most of us
as being brainwashed with lies and abused. Made to eat unhealthy crap.
Poverty. We are in quite a sad state. Hopefully this will all change
soon. As for Mr. Beckow, hopefully he learned an important lesson
about shouting things from the rooftop when they should not be.
Remember he is under surveillance. At this time it is better for him to
believe this was a failure and he is leaving public life. This is for
his own safety. When the time is right he will be told that in fact,
the trip was a success and finally be able to see the fruits of his
labors.

Anyway I have already become addicted
to the gravity free game court. so much fun floating around. the rest
of the ship has artificial gravity, but they have told us it is only at
83% of what it is on earth so it feels quite nice actually and a bit
different. You want to hear something funny. When I first tried to
post yesterday I got a message "Banned from GLP" from the ship lol. God
knows what ISP range they are using. Anyway it took a few attempts
before I was finally able to post. This isn't my normal GLP ID. So
whatever those other threads are seems like an attempt by the dark
cabal to derail this at every chance

They don't use deodorant! I forgot my
deodorant so I tried to go get some in the supply area. They said they
don't use deodorant. The lady at the counter rolled her eyes and gave
me a package that contained two small strips. really small, about a 1/4
of an inch long by 1/8 inch thick. She looked at me like I am some sort
of caveman and told me to just stick each strip inside my shirt in the
pit area and i would be fine. I asked her how it worked and she said it
was akin to what we would consider some sort of smart nanotech. where
this stuff could find the stink particles and eradicate them lol. she
didn't seem like she is the scientific type so who knows. anyway
hopefully they work!

Speaking of dinner there are
literally THOUSANDS of options to chose from. Including earth cuisine.
I tried some exotic stuff. I tried some form of seafood from some
planet they call Octuria. I tried to act polite but had to spit it out.
But alot of the stuff is very similar to what we eat. And a lot of it
isn't. We have been told that tomorrow we will be taking a tour of
this local part of the galaxy. Starting with a stop at each planet in
this solar system. So far we have just remained in orbit around the
earth. Tomorrow should make for some really interesting photo
opportunities. And I have been assured I will be able to upload the
photos I have taken. But a more interesting option is that I will be
able to use one of their 'image capturing devices' to take pictures
which somehow will make uploading them instantaneous. Exciting times
friends

02/05/2012

Last night we left the solar system
to go on a most amazing tour of this corner of the galaxy. The one
thing that I kept thinking to myself was that quote Jesus said, "In the
house of my father there are many mansions". Indeed there are. Today I
saw wonders that yesterday I could not have possibly imagined. Simply
unreal. But the thing is... it IS real. I feel much much happier. I
have a totally different perspective to what this all is. And it is
just amazing.

My fellow humans from Earth. We have
been cheated and abused in the worst possible way. We have been
enslaved through corrupt governments and are given just enough to
survive. We are brainwashed into believing this is a world of scarcity.
But I can tell you with no doubt... this is a universe of abundance. We
have been robbed of living and enjoying life and all the wonderment
that should go along with that. They have told me that indeed the
elite of the Earth have had propulsion and energy systems that would
have turned the Earth into a paradise 50 years ago. But that they have
withheld this from the masses of Earth in the name of greed and
control. Out of their fear of losing control and losing their self
appointed place of authority. NO LONGER. This will all end this year.

John Lear and Sleeper on Planet Neptune

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread289947/pg1

~~~~~~~~

viking

[starwalk]

Thank you so much for all of this information. You are on the JOURNEY now I assume and would be exited to see the galaxies form an whole new pespective. I am curious to read about your expeirences and looking foreward to this on Valentines day. Isn't that romanitic?
Eternal Love journey back to Gaya on Valentines day who... with love to Avalon

[Anchor]

LOL - That's the way - have some fun :)

[buckminster fuller]

Hey guys,

Well, those who know my posts and replies here on PA, know as well that I´m a very respectful man.

So, please, take this with all due respect. I don´t mean to offend anyone, but I have to say this.

This whole situation only shows us how gullible and naive most people here at PA are. This is one of the reasons that make every new-age charlatan out there so successful.

Some people need to believe something and these people know that.

The first reaction I´ve got about this posts was: Are you serious????Ets picking you up at home for a trip, in a black limousine?????

(This is still my reaction.)

This is unbelievable!!

And, for those who will still believe Backow´s excuses about it, well, all I can say is that I´m really sorry for you. I hope you to wake up some day.

Some people will also say that it was a set up to discredit Beckow. Well, it could be, but the probabilities that this is all just fruits of his ill imagination, or that he created this situation to achieve certain still unknown results are much bigger. They are not being played; They are playing with you.

These men are always so predictable...I´m not any kind of prophet, but if you check out, there are countless threads here on PA (including this one) were I could predict the results, using only pure discernment and logic. Maybe you should try using such tools sometimes as well...

It´s so easy to blame other people for their mistakes... They could say they were victims of a CIA psy-ops to discredit them (they probably will come up with a very fantastic excuse)...Or they could just take the responsability for it, like honest men do.

Some people will say that the ETs were forced to change their plans for some reason. Well, this is not like a date you have to cancel because you´ve remembered of a dentist appointment, guys...If you can´t trust an ET race to be punctual on such an important date, you shouldn´t trust them enough to get inside their ship as well.

Please people, you have to stop dreaming (dreaming is good, but when you dream too deep, it becomes delusion). You have to wake up!

Cheers,

Raf.

PS: This thread used to be pretty busy during the last few days. Now, it´s just moving gradually towards the oblivion. For those who choose to just forget this situation, well, just get ready for the next scam. I guarantee that there´s another brand new hoax just around the corner, waiting for you.

Whilst you talk a lot of sense most of the time Raf, may I say you do not talk sense all the time. You accuse over two thousand members of Avalon to be gullible. Is this a nice thing to say to your family to which you belong? I think not. I think you are being rude to most people here. I am a member here and I will say that I represent the majority of members and their opinions on spiritual matters and matters of alien life in the universe. If I were to, and I have, recommend people to try and join here I would not have warned them that the majority of people here are gullible. I certainly would not have done that as it would have had a negative effect on them to join here.

Some people like you here claim to be never fooled by anyone. You seem to infer that you are incapable of being fooled by anyone. May I suggest that you are lying or at least in the few years on this planet you have never trusted anyones word on anything? I doubt that very much and if anyone dares to believe you I think they must be gullible.

There are insurance people convincing millions of people every day that they should take out policies for this and that as it makes good sense etc. People like you of course will always read the small print and say not on my life will I do such a thing. Plumbers will visit you and tell you that your heating boiler has failed because of some part has failed of which he will have to order. When you and your family are sitting at home freezing you being not a gullible person of course will not believe the plumber will you? I think not. I think you will trust him because you want your family to be warmed and have hot water.

Please do not call the majority of the good people here gullible again.

Stan

Well, would "easy believers" be closer to the truth...?

Everything Raf says here I agree with, I really believe he only has at heart to see less people being fooled AND less people fooling themselves.

I really wish for more discernment and applied logic on the forum. The war raging outside is a war on information, and most of what is out there shouldn't be consumed without prior analysis, without the questioning that should NATURALLY occur in people.

All the new-age BS for instance... I have news for you, channelers are 99% english speaking peeps, and their "message" NEVER gets translated to other languages. Don't you think that if those were somehow genuine, they would make sure that the said "message" would get to all beings on this earth, or is it so that they have a thing for american imperialism..?

Let go fear, and make the effort to think things over, instead of consuming them is all I wish for us all.

Peace

[kersley]

I been depress ever since i heard the mother ship didn't show up. Is it safe to come out and have hope now?

[Daft Ada]

My fellow humans from Earth. We have
been cheated and abused in the worst possible way. We have been
enslaved through corrupt governments and are given just enough to
survive. We are brainwashed into believing this is a world of scarcity.
But I can tell you with no doubt... this is a universe of abundance. We
have been robbed of living and enjoying life and all the wonderment
that should go along with that. They have told me that indeed the
elite of the Earth have had propulsion and energy systems that would
have turned the Earth into a paradise 50 years ago. But that they have
withheld this from the masses of Earth in the name of greed and
control. Out of their fear of losing control and losing their self
appointed place of authority. NO LONGER. This will all end this year.

John Lear and Sleeper on Planet Neptune

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread289947/pg1

~~~~~~~~

viking Interesting to note that the ending implies that this is John lear and sleepers post but when you follow the link it says "TO" john lear and sleeper, which is a completely different sittuation also interesting to note all the post dates are 2007

[Eric J (Viking)]

My fellow humans from Earth. We have
been cheated and abused in the worst possible way. We have been
enslaved through corrupt governments and are given just enough to
survive. We are brainwashed into believing this is a world of scarcity.
But I can tell you with no doubt... this is a universe of abundance. We
have been robbed of living and enjoying life and all the wonderment
that should go along with that. They have told me that indeed the
elite of the Earth have had propulsion and energy systems that would
have turned the Earth into a paradise 50 years ago. But that they have
withheld this from the masses of Earth in the name of greed and
control. Out of their fear of losing control and losing their self
appointed place of authority. NO LONGER. This will all end this year.

John Lear and Sleeper on Planet Neptune

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread289947/pg1

~~~~~~~~

viking Interesting to note that the ending implies that this is John lear and sleepers post but when you follow the link it says "TO" john lear and sleeper, which is a completely different sittuation also interesting to note all the post dates are 2007

Hi Dafty .... yes that part of the message is an overpaste ... bottom 2 lines should not be there ...

This is the original link ... >>>>> http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1773987/pg1

Anyway please discern...could be some nutter having fun on ATS...makes you think though hey... I wonder what they are like ... inside the ships?!

viking

[niki]

All the new-age BS for instance... I have news for you, channelers are 99% english speaking peeps, and their "message" NEVER gets translated to other languages. Don't you think that if those were somehow genuine, they would make sure that the said "message" would get to all beings on this earth, or is it so that they have a thing for american imperialism..?



Hi,
I am new to this wonderful forum, and I'm from Asia myself, to be precise, I'm from Indonesia.
Although honestly I've followed Steve Beckow's page for just a bit while, and as well as this forum,
but I've researched quite some bits about the whole "Truth", Ascension, Disclosure, 2012, Lightworkers, Pleaidians, UFO, ET things,
moreover, my heart and soul have *somehow* yearned so much to be included in this trip.
I even emailed mr. Steve Beckow several times (through several different mediums such as his blog, website, even to his mailing list & personal email account), with a header email subject: "a 30-yrs old open-minded Truth-seeker from Indonesia who see NO other purpose than this trip",
only to still get no reply, and that in the end, only to read that the trip was postponed (unless if I've missed some other important information).

I will say this very honestly though:
as much as my heart and soul have -again, somehow- felt so 'outcast' on this beloved planet, mostly due to the human's society and many of its terrible 'materialistic' and greedy rules & pursuits), and even often feel that "I don't belong here, my HOME must probably exist somewhere else. There's NO way I'm given all these super-vivid imaginations and creativity creations by the ONE, or God, etc (as I'm a musician/composer myself), only just for the purpose of mere 'torturing' me here.
I've always, always tried to believe that there must be a PURPOSE for all of these constant yearnings and my loneliness, all my super vivid imaginations, creativity (as if they're NOT coming out from me!).

BUT (and this is in line with @buckminster fuller 's reply and some others here),
I do also somehow know that as much as we all yearn this to be coming true to reality,
the 'harsh' truth is that: we might perhaps all could just possibly seeking mere escapism from this too-often 'irrational, superficial, mundane' reality here on this planet Earth, and especially its human's society (and their imposed rules, expectations, pursuits).
I will be utmost honest here: scientifically speaking, we also KNOW of how our human's minds (& Ego) are quite 'fantastic' and 'awesome' in creating all these super-imaginations, vivid 'creative' stories, etc etc (that's why there are sooo many great, unbelievably amazing novels, movies, anime, video games, ALL come from ironically a 'mere' human's imaginations!).

But the most important question is: HOW much of them are 'real', or 'true'? or even the "Truth"?
and moreover, HOW can we know, and most importantly: discern, between what's really the "real Truth", and/or just mere human's beautiful and 'creative' personal own's imaginations & fantasy?...

Like some more 'realistic' posters that I've seen have posted before:
sometimes, it's also very important to NOT forget using our "human's greatest tools" as well: mind and logic, for Discernment purpose.
there's a LOT of misinformation out there in this earthly world (& society)!
And to be perfectly honest, this is one of the main reasons I'm just basically tired of living on this so-called human's society, as many of them -especially nowadays- will use ALL/ANY kind of purposes just to *deceive or trick* people into believing all kind of lies, mis-information, etc etc, and all of these are -sadly- often just for mere human's (or EGO)'s 'shallow' purposes! eg: fame, status, popularity, or simply just for pleasure/enjoyment of self. these things DO happen, and I've seen all these in a CONSTANT, DAILY basis! that it's even way beyond sickening.

Now, I'm not saying -however- that mr. Steve Beckow's "Neptune Trip" info was 100% lies or that he himself was just 'another' wordly/earthly scam, fraud, trickster, liar, etc etc,
but even using one's own logic, I have to pretty much concur and agree with @buckminster fuller especially about the language thing. this is common-sense, and I feel he's correct in his logic-discernment. and I'm still not even mentioning the whole "black limousine", "space bikes", and other descriptions that I would even honestly termed as "too human/earthly" descriptions. I mean, with all due respect, if we believe in ETs as being of "higher realms", then why we couldn't even 'stretch' our imaginations to think that they could've used more "out of this world" methods of picking people up?...instead of the whole black limousine, space bikes, and even spaceships things?.. is it because we're just simply "too humans", and thus can only picture or imagine the most 'human' things/scenarios as possible?..

My apology if this may come out as a bit harsh and even perhaps 'rude' or impolite to some/many here,
but here I'm just speaking out from my deepest heart and soul, no sugar-coating, and no other intention here.
My sympathy as well goes to all of you who've been somewhat 'disappointed' too by the postponing of this Trip.

Meanwhile, I will keep seeking the Truth (as I've always been here on this far corner of the planet),
but this time -to avoid another 'heart-break' and major disappointment and even further feeling disillusioned- I think I will still use the "wonderful human's tools given by The Creator",
and that is namely: logic, common sense, and discernment.

Namaste~

[Daft Ada]

Hi Viking, this is the kind of BS this person posts http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1775724/pg1 Godlike productions is now the home of John Lear, having fallen out with Open minds, which has now closed anyway as they couldn't even get on with each other.
John has a very long thread on this site called I am the real John Lear, or something like that, and this Anonymous coward has posted in john Lears thread many times and mostly all confrontational, John is usually very patient with him but I wouldn't believe a word he says and regard his thread about being on the ship as a big wind up, as that's the nature he presents in all his other posts.
There is certainly no friendly relationship between John Lear and this person and none of the posts are anything to do with John Lear or Sleeper who is a close friend of John Lears

[RMorgan]

Whilst you talk a lot of sense most of the time Raf, may I say you do not talk sense all the time. You accuse over two thousand members of Avalon to be gullible. Is this a nice thing to say to your family to which you belong? I think not. I think you are being rude to most people here. I am a member here and I will say that I represent the majority of members and their opinions on spiritual matters and matters of alien life in the universe. If I were to, and I have, recommend people to try and join here I would not have warned them that the majority of people here are gullible. I certainly would not have done that as it would have had a negative effect on them to join here.

Some people like you here claim to be never fooled by anyone. You seem to infer that you are incapable of being fooled by anyone. May I suggest that you are lying or at least in the few years on this planet you have never trusted anyones word on anything? I doubt that very much and if anyone dares to believe you I think they must be gullible.

There are insurance people convincing millions of people every day that they should take out policies for this and that as it makes good sense etc. People like you of course will always read the small print and say not on my life will I do such a thing. Plumbers will visit you and tell you that your heating boiler has failed because of some part has failed of which he will have to order. When you and your family are sitting at home freezing you being not a gullible person of course will not believe the plumber will you? I think not. I think you will trust him because you want your family to be warmed and have hot water.

Please do not call the majority of the good people here gullible again.

Stan

Hi Stan,

I´m so sorry my friend if I offended you and other people here on PA.

You know, I´m pretty good with English, but it´s not my mother tongue and, sometimes, as hard as I try to be very delicate, specially while speaking about such controversial matters, I can´t translate my feelings accurately using this language. I´m much much better with Portuguese.

I´m far from perfect. I´ve made many mistakes during my short life and I believe I´ll still make mistakes in the future...And yes, I was fooled a couple of times in my life as well.

Anyway, please, don´t get me wrong, but believing that an alien will pick you up at home in a black limousine is indeed a sign of naivety. If it´s not, I don´t know what else could be.

With all due respect, whoever believed it, should sit down for a moment and reflect about their concept of discernment.

This is my point of view and my opinion only. Some things are difficult to be said. When you have a hard thing to say, it´s equally hard to soften it with words.

Again, I sincerely apologize if I´ve offended anyone. Stan, I consider you the be a very valuable member of this forum and I respect your opinion very much.

My kindest regards,

Raf.

[OnyxKnight]

That guy on GLP is fake. He, nor anyone else, went on any trip anywhere. Maybe a fantasy ride, but that's a different kind of trip.

[aranuk]

Whilst you talk a lot of sense most of the time Raf, may I say you do not talk sense all the time. You accuse over two thousand members of Avalon to be gullible. Is this a nice thing to say to your family to which you belong? I think not. I think you are being rude to most people here. I am a member here and I will say that I represent the majority of members and their opinions on spiritual matters and matters of alien life in the universe. If I were to, and I have, recommend people to try and join here I would not have warned them that the majority of people here are gullible. I certainly would not have done that as it would have had a negative effect on them to join here.

Some people like you here claim to be never fooled by anyone. You seem to infer that you are incapable of being fooled by anyone. May I suggest that you are lying or at least in the few years on this planet you have never trusted anyones word on anything? I doubt that very much and if anyone dares to believe you I think they must be gullible.

There are insurance people convincing millions of people every day that they should take out policies for this and that as it makes good sense etc. People like you of course will always read the small print and say not on my life will I do such a thing. Plumbers will visit you and tell you that your heating boiler has failed because of some part has failed of which he will have to order. When you and your family are sitting at home freezing you being not a gullible person of course will not believe the plumber will you? I think not. I think you will trust him because you want your family to be warmed and have hot water.

Please do not call the majority of the good people here gullible again.

Stan

Hi Stan,

I´m so sorry my friend if I offended you and other people here on PA.

You know, I´m pretty good with English, but it´s not my mother tongue and, sometimes, as hard as I try to be very delicate, specially while speaking about such controversial matters, I can´t translate my feelings accurately using this language. I´m much much better with Portuguese.

I´m far from perfect. I´ve made many mistakes during my short life and I believe I´ll still make mistakes in the future...And yes, I was fooled a couple of times in my life as well.

Anyway, please, don´t get me wrong, but believing that an alien will pick you up at home in a black limousine is indeed a sign of naivety. If it´s not, I don´t know what else could be.

With all due respect, whoever believed it, should sit down for a moment and reflect about their concept of discernment.

This is my point of view and my opinion only. Some things are difficult to be said. When you have a hard thing to say, it´s equally hard to soften it with words.

Again, I sincerely apologize if I´ve offended anyone. Stan, I consider you the be a very valuable member of this forum and I respect your opinion very much.

My kindest regards,

Raf.

Thank you Raf you sound more like the Raf we all know and love here. The black limo description by Linda was cleared up with the latest chanelling and she used another metaphor saying space bike instead. Steve Beckow picked that up and asked her not to play with us with these kind of metaphors. She then appologised and said we will beam some up and send small space vehicles to pick others up. From my side I think and feel that the mis-channelled information was wrongly interpretated by her and I think that I would not trust that source for sound believability. AI maybe. I do channel myself and realise how difficult it is sometimes to put into words. In my own case I chanelled 16 childrens stories in one month in 1998 and have one book published. It can be bought in Amazon.com

Stan

[noprophet]

That guy on GLP is fake. He, nor anyone else, went on any trip anywhere. Maybe a fantasy ride, but that's a different kind of trip.

I'm fairly sure this could all be a bit of fun but you seem rather certain. It that information or opinion based?

I would be surprised of one being so quick to judge who claims such unbelievable experiences.

[RMorgan]

Dear Stan, my friend,

Channelings are a very debatable subject.

While some of them might be genuine indeed, some others might be many other things.

Schizophrenia, fantastic imagination, simple charlatanism, misused creativity, malign entities, collective telepathic interference and even, for the most bold conspiracy theorists, AIs and psy-ops.

In this case, I don´t think that such trip will actually happen. I don´t think those channelings are genuine.

ETs don´t need to be channeled. If, hypothetically, they wanted to send such message, they could do it in many much more effective ways. They could actually, send this supposed invitation personally, to each of the invited persons, instead of choosing a single person to spread the message and manage the invitees list.

Personally, I think it sounds very much like a bad script written for a b-class sci-fi movie.

Mr.Steven Spielberg has done a much better job with "Close Encounters of the Third Kind", from 1977, in which a very similar story was told. :)

I don´t even need to say this is my opinion, my point of view. Anyone has the right analyze this situation and take different conclusions, of course.

Cheers,

Raf.

[ljwheat]

I wonder? TICK tock, how? Much Time I have chosen to sit here in front of you exercising my finger’s.

Keep the masses busy, ? Dose this busy mean anything that draws my focus and holds it for what”? ten minutes, half hour two hours? Looking the other way from what?

Busy with words in my head, throwing them in front of you to get, hopefully some sort of response or recognition to something that only exists in my head were my focus, intent or image.

Getting caught up in anything outside of self empowered activity, first building the energy up, storing or projecting, keeping the energy or giving it away? In a forum, phone call, to a friend, to only have to rebuild the energy one has just given away.

Holding the light, letting it build a presence allowing it to stretch and expand beyond the limits I have learned to place on a acceptable release point, should I explode I’ve been conditioned to believe.:ballchain:

Letting go of my energy to anything outside of myself, constantly exhaling energy?

At the coast of what? Not being socially politically correct, being labeled a bump on a log, stuck up, pier pressure at a very early age to be acceptable and in the know?

At what coast has this thinking and regurgitating my awareness of being out into this matrix or has it been sucked away by design as David Icke has so well pointed out.

And now this forum, if now vigilant on content, ---can or letting it suck the energy or light out of us.--------- One addiction traded for another?

At what point dose one hold the light, or release it?

As in Star Wars when Anakin was wondering off topic, “stay here and now young pad a wan, the future has its own time and place, so to stay in the force that is here and now." Hell they could have went and shot a game of pool", or watched a good hologram, or stayed home and discussed Bill Woods to keep all of us so distracted,:whoo: do we really have all that much time on our hands,

And why? And who dose this serve, especially now? 2021:embarassed:2012

Problem- who’s? reaction-who’s, solution for who? Are we becoming yet another distraction directed at each other threw past indoctrination threw habit and conditioning?:hail:

[Virma De Ris]

Part of being aware and awake is understanding that one can be made a fool of, but the most important part of being aware and awake is to avoid or neutralize a future attempt at being made a fool of. We all want so bad to be saved in one way or another that we tend to seek outside ourselves for these heroes to appear. I blame organized religion on this as we have been conditioned to look outside ourselves for salvation from ourselves. ETs are equal to any earthling and viceversa. Don't look for a way out from them as they can also err. Also don't shoot the messenger as probably he had the best intentions at his core but don't forget that he was wrong. This are just my thoughts which I wanted to share with you all. Some might agree and some might not and that's ok with me as I simply wanted to share this with you all.

[Billy]

I wonder? TICK tock, how? Much Time I have chosen to sit here in front of you exercising my finger’s.



And why? And who dose this serve, especially now? 2021

:hail:

Cool, you can tell us if disclosure did happen in 2012 and did anyone go on the joy ride.

only kidding, i know it was a typo. but i loved it. :ranger:

[RMorgan]

Part of being aware and awake is understanding that one can be made a fool of, but the most important part of being aware and awake is to avoid or neutralize a future attempt at being made a fool of. We all want so bad to be saved in one way or another that we tend to seek outside ourselves for these heroes to appear. I blame organized religion on this as we have been conditioned to look outside ourselves for salvation from ourselves. ETs are equal to any earthling and viceversa. Don't look for a way out from them as they can also err. Also don't shoot the messenger as probably he had the best intentions at his core but don't forget that he was wrong. This are just my thoughts which I wanted to share with you all. Some might agree and some might not and that's ok with me as I simply wanted to share this with you all.

Hello Virma,

I agree with you. It´s not ethical to shoot the messenger.

However, many people have taken advantage over this situation, pretending to be a messenger just to avoid being shot. It´s a very old trick.

If, somehow, someone finds out that a person is deliberately pretending to be a messenger, to spread misleading messages for any reason, with impunity, this person should be legally prosecuted.

You know, this messenger situation is very comfortable within the alternative media scenario, because it enables an individual to exempt from his responsibilities.

Disguised as a messenger, literally anyone can claim or promise anything and, if such claims or promises do not come to happen, this person can not be considered guilty and lose credibility.

I´d rather thing that, in this case, any person should be responsible from anything that comes directly from his/her mouth, hands, body and any other physical form of communication and manifestation of intention.

Cheers,

Raf.

[blufire]

I know I will probably get nailed for what I am about to say . . . . .but really at this point I am embarrassed and somewhat humiliated . . . . . for myself in being a part of this forum and for the forum and for specifically this whole fiasco of a thread.

Channeled messages have no validity . . . . and I’m not going to say imho, I am saying I believe this. I have done my homework and read most of the messages Darla and others post and have gone to the websites and I can’t find any substance. . . . they make you feel kinda happy, hopeful and fluffy and that’s about it. Those who believe in channeled messages and messengers please point out ONE that has come true with irrefutable evidence or even just 50% proof. I’d bet my farm you can’t do it . . . . .

We say this forum is about finding the truth and making that truth known to the world as a whole. There is not one bit of truth in this particular channeled message and it is promoting a very damaging pattern. I used to be so proud when something like this would crop up and several forum members would be on it like a “duck on a june bug” . . . it would be eviscerated and tossed out on its backside . . . . what happened ???

Read back through the thread I feel strongly those of us who are negative (OMG I said the N word) toward these type of absurdities are afraid to say it. We have lost our voice or being shoved into some sort of wishy washy frame of mind and stance.

I’m for breaking this destructive pattern and I need to know if there are other forum members that feel the same way I do. I love this forum and until very recently it was the only forum I was a member of. I have yet to post once on the forum I recently joined because I have been waiting to see is there is any resemblance to the forum I remember and was so proud of.

What say you? Is there anyone who agrees with me and willing to take a stand against THIS sort of information? I’m not talking about inciting a riot here . . . . be firm and decisive, rational and logical.

Above all let’s provide some true BALANCE

[Billy]

Interesting response here at ATS

irst Ever Post From The MotherShip Neptune!!! -

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1773987/pg1

02/04/2012

It was a long tour. It's a big ship.
A literal flying city. Sorry I didn't report back sooner. I was
exhausted. The amount of wondrous things I saw and all the information
I learned can really tire one out. Anyway only a small number of folks
were actually picked up. 25 that I counted personally. It was told to
use that Mr Beckow and a lot of others could not be picked up at this
time due to the fact that Mr Beckow made all of this too public. It was
suppose to be a behind the scenes first step. But with all the
attention on Mr Beckow it was almost impossible for them to retrieve
him and most of the others as there were safety concerns. We were told
that Mr Beckow and others were put under surveillance after all this
becoming so public against the wishes of those on the Neptune. But they
said they do appreciate all the work he has done and he will be
contacted personally at the first possible time when it is safe.

Today I am allowed to take photos and
post them back to earthnet. I have a few mandatory training exercises I
need to go do but I will check back in later. This is all so surreal.
Can't believe this is actually happening. Mr Beckow made this too
public and had some unsavory intelligence types watching his every
move. There was no way they could have picked him up without incident
is what we were told. I have taken over 200 photos. However the
terminals on the ship don't have a USB port so I will ask the adviser
assigned to me my best option for uploading some of these photos the
next time I see her. You should see the clothes these people wear.
quite cool

And I can assure you this trip was
most definitely not canceled. It was revised and made smaller. You guys
gotta remember there are some very powerful people that don't want this
open contact between our space family and us to take place. Especially
by passing the 'official government channels'. Might we actually learn
the truth for ourselves without 'gov't officials' filtering it first!
this is inevitable. And from what I"ve learned what you gotta realize
is that the Earth is equivalent to a backwoods small town in the big
galactic picture. There are many billions more humans living throughout
the galaxy than on Earth.

These other humans see us as quite
naive babies actually. Like a tribe in the Amazon who has not made
contact with the rest of the world. On top of that they see most of us
as being brainwashed with lies and abused. Made to eat unhealthy crap.
Poverty. We are in quite a sad state. Hopefully this will all change
soon. As for Mr. Beckow, hopefully he learned an important lesson
about shouting things from the rooftop when they should not be.
Remember he is under surveillance. At this time it is better for him to
believe this was a failure and he is leaving public life. This is for
his own safety. When the time is right he will be told that in fact,
the trip was a success and finally be able to see the fruits of his
labors.

Anyway I have already become addicted
to the gravity free game court. so much fun floating around. the rest
of the ship has artificial gravity, but they have told us it is only at
83% of what it is on earth so it feels quite nice actually and a bit
different. You want to hear something funny. When I first tried to
post yesterday I got a message "Banned from GLP" from the ship lol. God
knows what ISP range they are using. Anyway it took a few attempts
before I was finally able to post. This isn't my normal GLP ID. So
whatever those other threads are seems like an attempt by the dark
cabal to derail this at every chance

They don't use deodorant! I forgot my
deodorant so I tried to go get some in the supply area. They said they
don't use deodorant. The lady at the counter rolled her eyes and gave
me a package that contained two small strips. really small, about a 1/4
of an inch long by 1/8 inch thick. She looked at me like I am some sort
of caveman and told me to just stick each strip inside my shirt in the
pit area and i would be fine. I asked her how it worked and she said it
was akin to what we would consider some sort of smart nanotech. where
this stuff could find the stink particles and eradicate them lol. she
didn't seem like she is the scientific type so who knows. anyway
hopefully they work!

Speaking of dinner there are
literally THOUSANDS of options to chose from. Including earth cuisine.
I tried some exotic stuff. I tried some form of seafood from some
planet they call Octuria. I tried to act polite but had to spit it out.
But alot of the stuff is very similar to what we eat. And a lot of it
isn't. We have been told that tomorrow we will be taking a tour of
this local part of the galaxy. Starting with a stop at each planet in
this solar system. So far we have just remained in orbit around the
earth. Tomorrow should make for some really interesting photo
opportunities. And I have been assured I will be able to upload the
photos I have taken. But a more interesting option is that I will be
able to use one of their 'image capturing devices' to take pictures
which somehow will make uploading them instantaneous. Exciting times
friends

02/05/2012

Last night we left the solar system
to go on a most amazing tour of this corner of the galaxy. The one
thing that I kept thinking to myself was that quote Jesus said, "In the
house of my father there are many mansions". Indeed there are. Today I
saw wonders that yesterday I could not have possibly imagined. Simply
unreal. But the thing is... it IS real. I feel much much happier. I
have a totally different perspective to what this all is. And it is
just amazing.

My fellow humans from Earth. We have
been cheated and abused in the worst possible way. We have been
enslaved through corrupt governments and are given just enough to
survive. We are brainwashed into believing this is a world of scarcity.
But I can tell you with no doubt... this is a universe of abundance. We
have been robbed of living and enjoying life and all the wonderment
that should go along with that. They have told me that indeed the
elite of the Earth have had propulsion and energy systems that would
have turned the Earth into a paradise 50 years ago. But that they have
withheld this from the masses of Earth in the name of greed and
control. Out of their fear of losing control and losing their self
appointed place of authority. NO LONGER. This will all end this year.

John Lear and Sleeper on Planet Neptune

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread289947/pg1

~~~~~~~~

viking

I see the other 24 trippers have forgotten to phone home and send photo's. deary me, what are they like :rolleyes:

[beyondmyctrl]

Anyway, please, don´t get me wrong, but believing that an alien will pick you up at home in a black limousine is indeed a sign of naivety. If it´s not, I don´t know what else could be.

With all due respect, whoever believed it, should sit down for a moment and reflect about their concept of discernment.

.

Two of the smartest things I've read on this forum in a long long time... Thanks Raf you give me hope... I wouldn't worry about your English so much , it's actually much better than a lot of people's here, including mine.

[Tarka the Duck]

I know I will probably get nailed for what I am about to say . . . . .but really at this point I am embarrassed and somewhat humiliated . . . . . for myself in being a part of this forum and for the forum and for specifically this whole fiasco of a thread.

Channeled messages have no validity . . . . and I’m not going to say imho, I am saying I believe this. I have done my homework and read most of the messages Darla and others post and have gone to the websites and I can’t find any substance. . . . they make you feel kinda happy, hopeful and fluffy and that’s about it. Those who believe in channeled messages and messengers please point out ONE that has come true with irrefutable evidence or even just 50% proof. I’d bet my farm you can’t do it . . . . .

We say this forum is about finding the truth and making that truth known to the world as a whole. There is not one bit of truth in this particular channeled message and it is promoting a very damaging pattern. I used to be so proud when something like this would crop up and several forum members would be on it like a “duck on a june bug” . . . it would be eviscerated and tossed out on its backside . . . . what happened ???

Read back through the thread I feel strongly those of us who are negative (OMG I said the N word) toward these type of absurdities are afraid to say it. We have lost our voice or being shoved into some sort of wishy washy frame of mind and stance.

I’m for breaking this destructive pattern and I need to know if there are other forum members that feel the same way I do. I love this forum and until very recently it was the only forum I was a member of. I have yet to post once on the forum I recently joined because I have been waiting to see is there is any resemblance to the forum I remember and was so proud of.

What say you? Is there anyone who agrees with me and willing to take a stand against THIS sort of information? I’m not talking about inciting a riot here . . . . be firm and decisive, rational and logical.

Above all let’s provide some true BALANCE

Yessssss!:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

I think you'd enjoy 9eagle9's posts on the "Discernment with Bill and Atticus" thread. It's along the same lines.

I'm with you.

Kathie

[beyondmyctrl]

I know I will probably get nailed for what I am about to say . . . . .but really at this point I am embarrassed and somewhat humiliated . . . . . for myself in being a part of this forum and for the forum and for specifically this whole fiasco of a thread.

Channeled messages have no validity . . . . and I’m not going to say imho, I am saying I believe this. I have done my homework and read most of the messages Darla and others post and have gone to the websites and I can’t find any substance. . . . they make you feel kinda happy, hopeful and fluffy and that’s about it. Those who believe in channeled messages and messengers please point out ONE that has come true with irrefutable evidence or even just 50% proof. I’d bet my farm you can’t do it . . . . .

We say this forum is about finding the truth and making that truth known to the world as a whole. There is not one bit of truth in this particular channeled message and it is promoting a very damaging pattern. I used to be so proud when something like this would crop up and several forum members would be on it like a “duck on a june bug” . . . it would be eviscerated and tossed out on its backside . . . . what happened ???

Read back through the thread I feel strongly those of us who are negative (OMG I said the N word) toward these type of absurdities are afraid to say it. We have lost our voice or being shoved into some sort of wishy washy frame of mind and stance.

I’m for breaking this destructive pattern and I need to know if there are other forum members that feel the same way I do. I love this forum and until very recently it was the only forum I was a member of. I have yet to post once on the forum I recently joined because I have been waiting to see is there is any resemblance to the forum I remember and was so proud of.

What say you? Is there anyone who agrees with me and willing to take a stand against THIS sort of information? I’m not talking about inciting a riot here . . . . be firm and decisive, rational and logical.

Above all let’s provide some true BALANCE

Hitting the "Thanks" button just didn't feel like enough, I'm with you all the way Blufire..

[another bob]

I know I will probably get nailed for what I am about to say . . . . .but really at this point I am embarrassed and somewhat humiliated . . . . . for myself in being a part of this forum and for the forum and for specifically this whole fiasco of a thread.

Hiya Blue!

I'd say, relax -- this forum itself is just a reflection of the nature of this realm in general. We seem to have to wade through a lot of poopadoodle just to find the rare gem, but Thank Goodness those gems are there for the finding!

:yo:

[EnergyGardener]

I know I will probably get nailed for what I am about to say . . . . .but really at this point I am embarrassed and somewhat humiliated . . . . . for myself in being a part of this forum and for the forum and for specifically this whole fiasco of a thread.

Hiya Blue!

I'd say, relax -- this forum itself is just a reflection of the nature of this realm in general. We seem to have to wade through a lot of poopadoodle just to find the rare gem, but Thank Goodness those gems are there for the finding!

:yo:

When you search within and without for the truth you will turn over quite a few rocks. If you predict that each rock will yield nothing you will be right most of the time. So why bother? Why live?

So you were right that the joyride didn't turn out as predicted, that doesn't make you or any other negative person a genius. Just negative and too quick to point out that you were right.

If you have your eyes closed in laughter of others you will never see it, even if it is right in front of you.

[OnyxKnight]

I'm fairly sure this could all be a bit of fun but you seem rather certain. It that information or opinion based?

I would be surprised of one being so quick to judge who claims such unbelievable experiences.

Sorry, I sometimes forget my own background with the material I provided here when exercising my right to critique others.

Lets say .... its an informed opinion.

[RMorgan]

I know I will probably get nailed for what I am about to say . . . . .but really at this point I am embarrassed and somewhat humiliated . . . . . for myself in being a part of this forum and for the forum and for specifically this whole fiasco of a thread.

Hiya Blue!

I'd say, relax -- this forum itself is just a reflection of the nature of this realm in general. We seem to have to wade through a lot of poopadoodle just to find the rare gem, but Thank Goodness those gems are there for the finding!

:yo:

When you search within and without for the truth you will turn over quite a few rocks. If you predict that each rock will yield nothing you will be right most of the time. So why bother? Why live?

So you were right that the joyride didn't turn out as predicted, that doesn't make you or any other negative person a genius. Just negative and too quick to point out that you were right.

If you have your eyes closed in laughter of others you will never see it, even if it is right in front of you.

Again, another misuse of the term negativity, which is becoming very fashionable in this forum (only loses to "resonate").

If a person doesn´t agree with something you say, or with what the majority say, it doesn´t mean this person is negative.

If a person agrees with everything you say, or with what the majority say, it also doesn´t mean this person is positive.

In fact, the use of the words positive/negative as adjectives implied to persons, is very very imprecise and ambiguous.

Cheers,

Raf.

[9eagle9]

Lol..I take it the ship didn't show up?

[Andreash94]

I'm starting to belive evrything is fake even our truth,realiti,startign to lose a hope that et or sombody wil come even in this year and save us ..... i caind of say weare doomed we maked this whith our oun hands and we get the paybacktime..

[EnergyGardener]

I know I will probably get nailed for what I am about to say . . . . .but really at this point I am embarrassed and somewhat humiliated . . . . . for myself in being a part of this forum and for the forum and for specifically this whole fiasco of a thread.

Hiya Blue!

I'd say, relax -- this forum itself is just a reflection of the nature of this realm in general. We seem to have to wade through a lot of poopadoodle just to find the rare gem, but Thank Goodness those gems are there for the finding!

:yo:

When you search within and without for the truth you will turn over quite a few rocks. If you predict that each rock will yield nothing you will be right most of the time. So why bother? Why live?

So you were right that the joyride didn't turn out as predicted, that doesn't make you or any other negative person a genius. Just negative and too quick to point out that you were right.

If you have your eyes closed in laughter of others you will never see it, even if it is right in front of you.

Again, another misuse of the term negativity, which is becoming very fashionable in this forum (only loses to "resonate").

If a person doesn´t agree with something you say, or with what the majority say, it doesn´t mean this person is negative.

If a person agrees with everything you say, or with what the majority say, it also doesn´t mean this person is positive.

In fact, the use of the words positive/negative as adjectives implied to persons, is very very imprecise and ambiguous.

Cheers,

Raf.

Raf,

You and others are gloating about being right that this didn't turn out as you predicted. I am pointing out that is not only negative (for gloating), believing you are right about more than you know for sure; worse you are pretending to know more than you do, as if you have proven superior knowledge simply because you turned out right on this event. Remember, a naysayer (negative person) will be right more times than wrong. That doesn't make a naysayer a genius, just negative, and that is being kind.

By pretending to know more than you do, you are not only damaging good people, but also distracting yourselves and others from the truth, which could pass you by.

[EnergyGardener]

You may recall Anchor warned all not to over-react to success or failure of the joyride. Either is a trap and a distraction.

People that build and create appreciate the complexities of completing any task or creation, especially for the first time. Any dim-witted critic can stand on the sidewalk and claim he or she knows why the intended project will not come off. Whether they appreciate why that might happen, those individuals or groups will claim higher intelligence than those actually contributing or committing toward the stated goal. So, the odds are then for the critics being right, so that when something isn't completed as predicted, those that contributed nothing in a positive way, will claim credit for being right; in effect, smarter than those that actually took a risk, that made the effort to accomplish something for the greater good. Perhaps Theodore Roosevelt first said it best in the excerpt from his speech, "Citizenship In a Republic" delivered at the Sorbonne, in Paris, France on 23 April, 1910:


It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

[anthony]

Those who believe in channeled messages and messengers please point out ONE that has come true with irrefutable evidence or even just 50% proof. I’d bet my farm you can’t do it . . . . .





Hello, i hear your frustration on this issue, i too have questioned channeled messages on quite a few occasions. over the past 3 years i have mainly read them on stevebeckows site, although i do have a dude called Kauilapele who emails me some from his blogsite.
I have to say that when i take a step back and look at the bigger picture alot of what has been channeled and posted on beckows site has in my eyes become cleary evident, the dark cabal been removed, which appears to me to be happening on mass scale now, ever increasing over the last few months, all matters relating to increased energies coming through, enabling people to seek out the truth along with raising their vibrations up and away from the lower fear based vibrations.
I see a world awakening on a mass scale, yes alot still have alot to learn myself included, the fact that me at 27 years old is now talking about subjects such as ascension when only 4 years ago i was blind as a bat has alot of credit to do with folks like steve beckow and the channeled meassages he posts.
Admittedly since steve himself has started channeling and this issue in reagards to the space voyage, steve does appear to be out of his depth, but i can also view this as a child learning new skills, which takes time.
I know as a 27year old man/boi/watever that the channeling can come across as lovey dovey and i wouldn't usualy relay them to my egotisical 'mates', they would laugh me out of the room, but i have gained alot from reading them and from my perspective over the last two years i see alot manifesting now that was said back in 2010 and earlier.
My truth at this moment is there are beings of light out there somewhere, wishing us well and edging us along but ultimatly it is us who have chosen this path and we should give ourselves a great big pat on the back (and that includes beckow and co.) for where we have got so far and where we are going in the near future.

my love to you and every1 else good,bad and ugly.

[Deega]

Thanks Blufire, you’ve stand your space all along, great!, but a few comments.


“Fiasco of a thread”, I don’t see it that way, imagined, it’s the FIRST time (at least publicly) that someone is sure that they will be part of a mission to another planet, how interesting for some members who are tired of living in this world. It’s a first that I know of…, who could say more?


“Channeled messages have no validity”, what do you make of Edgar Cayce, Nostrodamus, Jesus (?), Buddha, others, are they all fakes?, I would not say so! There is to many who pretend to be true channelers, they spoil the information transfer somehow. IMHO, I think that a true channeler should have the following qualities: be full of virtues, egoless, love, compassion, empathy, and a true believer in the magnaminity of what is real.

I remember some years ago, I had the opportunity to follow workshops on Sophrology. We were put to exercises where we had to examined (their fields of energies) a particular person ills at a distance. And we were invited to detect what were their ills. I was startled to pick up personal and discreet information on someone else at a distance. And apparently, all that I pick up were good answers, would I have the qualities to get in channeling, No!, because I didn’t had the magnaminity of what is real, lack on many virtues, had a good ego, not sufficient compassion, nevertheless, I could pick up that energy information (ills of the person at a distance). So from this simple exercise that anyone of us can do, I would think that energy transferred information is possible for some person IMHO.


“Read back through the thread I feel strongly those of us who are negative (OMG I said the N word) toward these type of absurdities are afraid to say it. We have lost our voice or being shoved into some sort of wishy washy frame of mind and stance”.

I would suggest this, for members who had registered for this event, you could of say that they were going for their death, and your words would of not had any effect on them. They were convinced that this was the real deal because one respectable person (so they say) was convinced of this would go on. You didn’t “lose your voice or being shoved”, you were afraid members would get in trouble, you’re compassionate, and you were expected to be heard…!, why!, because you thought that you were right, but don’t you think that the members (scheduled) also thought that they were right!

As you know, positive and negative are necessary qualities for our survival on Earth, and one is any lesser than the other, and I feel that your comments were important, but they were not encouraging for the members who were scheduled for the false (?) trip. How may we change the world if we cannot support the courageous?, the brave?

I would loved to know why would one advice another adult on what they should do! Is it parenting, that we know better than they, that we have had a bad experience in a similar situation, I would love to be in with them, or others, I invite your comments.

And what is it to be learned, adults make their choice and they have to live with the consequences, I don’t have anything to say, but encouraged them on this event be it real or false, in both ways, they have learned important lessons that we don’t have!

Keep up the posting, you showed that you cared, and that is great!

All the best to you.

Deega

[Billy]

Is everything and everyone not just energy, all vibrating at their own chosen "in the now" frequency, which can change frequency when we choose through experiences a lesson has been learned. no rights and no wrongs, only energy.

I hope you don't mind me repeating this.






Bring on all the illusions eventually together we will see through them all.

And we promise not to throw out the baby with the bath water.

peace.

[Kimberley]

I have decided to add my perspective here as a fun personal exercise for me. If it resonates with anyone else that is part of the fun, If it pushes someones button that is part of the fun, if it has no meaning what so ever that is part of the fun....

Bluefire what I think of you is NONE of your business. What you think of me is NONE of my business. What I think of anyone is NONE of their business and what anyone thinks of me is NONE of my business.....

However if what another thinks/is can either be a complimentary addition to my life or a contrast with something to teach me or totally neutral. Although when you get to the core of my reality it is all about me and only about me. And when you get to the core of anyone's reality it is all about them/you and only about them/you!! This is universal truth! (whether you like it or not). We humans are creators of our "reality" This is universal truth! (whether you like it or not). So you may shoot the messenger if you wish however I will not take it personally.

I love EVERYONE and I respect everyone's view. Do I agree with everyone's view? Absolutely not! We living in 3d duality and if we all thought the same thing that would be boring!!!! However please do remember that I do respect and honor and support and love each and everyone of us!! Although ultimately as I just said what I think about anything means nothing to anyone except to me, because I (and you) have free will to chose and create your/my "reality".

And I personally chose to be in each moment to the best of my human consciousness and lack of consciousness to be in love and at peace and in awe of all that is. This is fun for me and I have a great life and am so very very very grateful to be here now at this very moment in human/creatorness!!! If I did not have contrast in my reality how could I decide what I want to create or not create? So thank you to all contrast that shows up for me to take a look at and chose to agree with it or not agree with it.... that is the game, that is the fun!!! And please remember that if I agree or do not agree that is not the main point, it is if I judge it that has the most power. And for the record I have remembered how to NOT judge.

I take personal responsibility for ALL that is in my "reality" and I take NO responsibility for what is in your reality!!! Although it sure is fun to witness how humans Do create their reality. What you/I give attention to manifests in my/your reality (whether you/I like it or not).

Sooo.... part of my fun exercise is to take what Bluefire wrote and use it as an example of how manifestation works....



I know I will probably get nailed for what I am about to say . . . . .but really at this point I am embarrassed and somewhat humiliated . . . . . for myself in being a part of this forum and for the forum and for specifically this whole fiasco of a thread.

If you know you will get nailed you will! If you feel embarrassed and humiliated you will. And you judge this thread as a fiasco so for you it is a fiasco. (For me I see it as amusing and fun so that is what I see)


Channeled messages have no validity . . . . and I’m not going to say imho, I am saying I believe this. I have done my homework and read most of the messages Darla and others post and have gone to the websites and I can’t find any substance. . . . . .

Bluefire if you view that "Channeled messages have no validity" why do you continue to "read most of the messages Darla and others post "? Why give your attention to something that does not serve you?


We say this forum is about finding the truth and making that truth known to the world as a whole. There is not one bit of truth in this particular channeled message and it is promoting a very damaging pattern. I used to be so proud when something like this would crop up and several forum members would be on it like a “duck on a june bug” . . . it would be eviscerated and tossed out on its backside . . . . what happened ???

What is happening Bluefire is that yes there are those that agree with your view and there are those that do not... SO what??? And you wrote "We say this forum is about finding the truth and making that truth known to the world as a whole." I again need to remind us all that your truth and my truth may very well be 180 degrees different... and who is to judge that your truth is correct and my truth is incorrect?? I say we each as individual creators get to glean for ourselves what truth is truth for you/me!!!


I’m for breaking this destructive pattern and I need to know if there are other forum members that feel the same way I do. I love this forum and until very recently it was the only forum I was a member of. I have yet to post once on the forum I recently joined because I have been waiting to see is there is any resemblance to the forum I remember and was so proud of.

What say you? Is there anyone who agrees with me and willing to take a stand against THIS sort of information? I’m not talking about inciting a riot here . . . . be firm and decisive, rational and logical.

Above all let’s provide some true BALANCE

Bluefire you wrote "I’m for breaking this destructive pattern" that is your judgment that this is destructive... I see it as constructive!!

The point of me taking the time to write here, now is to remind us all that we are all allowed to have our differing views..that is what 3d duality is for... and to remind us that we each have free will to chose whether we are happy and having fun or whether we feel others are out to get us. Peace starts within and all emotions come from within and if you need to be validated from the outside you are not consciously controlling your reality!!!

I for one am here being peace and love and fun and harmony for me. That is the best I can be!!!

Much love to us ALL always in all ways!!!

[RMorgan]

Raf,

You and others are gloating about being right that this didn't turn out as you predicted. I am pointing out that is not only negative (for gloating), believing you are right about more than you know for sure; worse you are pretending to know more than you do, as if you have proven superior knowledge simply because you turned out right on this event. Remember, a naysayer (negative person) will be right more times than wrong. That doesn't make a naysayer a genius, just negative, and that is being kind.

By pretending to know more than you do, you are not only damaging good people, but also distracting yourselves and others from the truth, which could pass you by.

Hello my friend,

To be honest, I don´t believe I know more than I actually do. In fact, I´m perfectly comfortable with the idea that I know so little...

However, withing this little amount of things I might know (if there´s is such a thing as actually "knowing"), I´m 99,9% sure that no alien mind, which is supposed to be more intelligent than ours, would organize so badly a supposed trip within one of their ships. There are so many discrepancies involved in this plan...

I´m am not a naysayer, in fact, if I were to use your terms, I would classify myself as a fairly positive person. I believe many things and I´ve also been through many strange and unusual situations.

However, there´s absolutely no way I would believe in such a trip. It´s completely incoherent from the start to the ending of the story.

I believe you´re quite new to this forum and you haven´t been able to see most of my posts. I guess, after a while, you will be able to see that I´m a fairly balanced person (at least I try do be). Maybe you´ll even like me! ;)

If to be negative is to deny everything, and to be positive is to believe anything, I´m running away from both. I´m not a suspicious person, just like I´m not a gullible person.

Anyway, it´s you choice to believe anything you want, including that an alien will pick you up at home for a trip in a hollywood fashion. If you somehow benefit from believing this, I encourage you to do so.

Oh, and thank you for the word "gloating"; I didn´t know it before! The English language is full of amazing onomatopoeia.It´s always good to expand my English vocabulary. :)

Cheers,

Raf.

[cellardoor]

I have decided to add my perspective here as a fun personal exercise for me. If it resonates with anyone else that is part of the fun, If it pushes someones button that is part of the fun, if it has no meaning what so ever that is part of the fun....

Bluefire what I think of you is NON of your business. What you think of me is NON of my business. What I think of anyone is NON of their business and what anyone thinks of me is NON of my business.....

However if what another thinks/is can either be a complimentary addition to my life or a contrast with something to teach me or totally neutral. Although when you get to the core of my reality it is all about me and only about me. And when you get to the core of anyones reality it is all about them/you and only about them/you!! This is universal truth! (whether you like it or not). We humans are creators of our "reality" This is universal truth! (whether you like it or not). So you may shoot the messenger if you wish however I will not take it personally.

I love EVERYONE and I respect everyone's view. Do I agree with everyones view? Absolutely not! We living in 3d duality and if we all thought the same thing that would be boring!!!! However please do remember that I do respect and honor and support and love each and everyone of us!! Although ultimately as I just said what I think about anything means nothing to anyone except to me, because I (and you) have free will to chose and create your/my "reality".

And I personally chose to be in each moment to the best of my human consciousness and lack of consciousness to be in love and at peace and in awe of all that is. This is fun for me and I have a great life and am so very very very grateful to be here now at this very moment in human/creatorness!!! If I did not have contrast in my reality how could I decide what I want to create or not create? So thank you to all contrast that shows up for me to take a look at and chose to agree with it or not agree with it.... that is the game, that is the fun!!! And please remember that if I agree or no not agree is not the main point, it if if I judge it that has the most power. And for the record I have remembered how to NOT judge.

I take personal responsibility for ALL that is in my "reality" and I take NO responsibility for what is in your reality!!! Although it sure is fun to witness how humans Do create their reality. What you/I give attention to manifests in my/your reality (whether you/I like it or not).

Sooo.... part of my fun exercise is to take what Bluefire wrote and use it as an example of how manifestation works....



I know I will probably get nailed for what I am about to say . . . . .but really at this point I am embarrassed and somewhat humiliated . . . . . for myself in being a part of this forum and for the forum and for specifically this whole fiasco of a thread.

If you know you will get nailed you will! If you feel embarrassed and humiliated you will. And you judge this thread as a fiasco so for you it is a fiasco. (For me is see it as amusing and fun so that is what is see)


Channeled messages have no validity . . . . and I’m not going to say imho, I am saying I believe this. I have done my homework and read most of the messages Darla and others post and have gone to the websites and I can’t find any substance. . . . . .

Bluefire if you view that "Channeled messages have no validity" why do you continue to "read most of the messages Darla and others post "? Why give your attention to something that does not serve you?


We say this forum is about finding the truth and making that truth known to the world as a whole. There is not one bit of truth in this particular channeled message and it is promoting a very damaging pattern. I used to be so proud when something like this would crop up and several forum members would be on it like a “duck on a june bug” . . . it would be eviscerated and tossed out on its backside . . . . what happened ???

What is happening Bluefire is that yes there are those that agree with your view and there are those that do not... SO what??? And you wrote "We say this forum is about finding the truth and making that truth known to the world as a whole." I again need to remind us all that your truth and my truth may vey well be 180 degrees different... and who is to judge that your truth is correct and my truth is incorrect?? I say we each as individual creators get to glean for ourselves what truth is truth for you/me!!!


I’m for breaking this destructive pattern and I need to know if there are other forum members that feel the same way I do. I love this forum and until very recently it was the only forum I was a member of. I have yet to post once on the forum I recently joined because I have been waiting to see is there is any resemblance to the forum I remember and was so proud of.

What say you? Is there anyone who agrees with me and willing to take a stand against THIS sort of information? I’m not talking about inciting a riot here . . . . be firm and decisive, rational and logical.

Above all let’s provide some true BALANCE

Bluefire you wrote "I’m for breaking this destructive pattern" that is your judgement that this is destructive... I see it as constructive!!

The point of me taking the time to write here, now is to remind us all that we are all allowed to have our differing views..that is what 3d duality is for... and to remind us that we each have free will to chose whether we are happy and having fun or whether we feel others are out to get us. Peace starts within and all emotions come from within and if you need to be validated from the outside you are not consciously controlling your reality!!!

I for one am here being peace and love and fun and harmony for me. That is the best I can be!!!

Much love to us ALL always in all ways!!!

That was amazing!

Unconditional Love is so cool.

[Billy]

Is everything and everyone not just energy, all vibrating at their own chosen "in the now" frequency, which can change frequency when we choose through experiences a lesson has been learned. no rights and no wrongs, only energy.





I have decided to add my perspective here as a fun personal exercise for me. If it resonates with anyone else that is part of the fun, If it pushes someones button that is part of the fun, if it has no meaning what so ever that is part of the fun....


The point of me taking the time to write here, now is to remind us all that we are all allowed to have our differing views..that is what 3d duality is for... and to remind us that we each have free will to chose whether we are happy and having fun or whether we feel others are out to get us. Peace starts within and all emotions come from within and if you need to be validated from the outside you are not consciously controlling your reality!!!

I for one am here being peace and love and fun and harmony for me. That is the best I can be!!!

Much love to us ALL always in all ways!!!

Snap. I think we were writing at the same time Sister. What fun

[another bob]

I for one am here being peace and love and fun and harmony for me. That is the best I can be!!!

Much love to us ALL always in all ways!!!

That's the spirit!

Even after nearly a decade and a half visiting and participating in internet forums, it still amazes me how serious people tend to take themselves and their views. The motive to cling to positions seems to overwhelm any sense of proportion, although true peace can only be realized by abandoning all positions. That's a difficult lesson, it seems, although some sincere self-inspection will reveal that we are typically clinging to second-hand opinions in the first place. No position is true. I'll repeat -- no position is true (even this one, should I cling to it).


"A 'position,' is something that a Buddha has done away with. What a Buddha sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origin, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origin, such its disappearance; such is perception... such are mental fabrications... such is consciousness, such its origin, such its disappearance.' Because of this, I say, a Buddha — with the ending, fading out, cessation, renunciation, & relinquishment of all construings, all excogitations, all I-making & mine-making & obsession with conceit — is, through lack of clinging/sustenance, released."

Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta


:yo:

[NeverMind]

They don't use deodorant! I forgot my
deodorant so I tried to go get some in the supply area. They said they
don't use deodorant. The lady at the counter rolled her eyes and gave
me a package that contained two small strips. really small, about a 1/4
of an inch long by 1/8 inch thick. She looked at me like I am some sort
of caveman

My, my, some things never change, do they...?
So much for enlightenment. :)

[Kimberley]

Perhaps Winston Churchill first said it best in the excerpt from his speech, "Citizenship In a Republic" delivered at the Sorbonne, in Paris, France on 23 April, 1910:


It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

Hahahah this is too funny... yesterday someone posted this same quote but gave credit to Theodore Roosevelt.. and I looked up the quote and printed it out for my kitchen cabinet quote posting place crediting Theodore Roosevelt... I so love this quote, but am now wondering who is the first to write this... geez you can't trust google even when you try to confirm the credit hahahah Another lesson learned...

[EnergyGardener]

Perhaps Winston Churchill first said it best in the excerpt from his speech, "Citizenship In a Republic" delivered at the Sorbonne, in Paris, France on 23 April, 1910:


It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

Hahahah this is too funny... yesterday someone posted this same quote but gave credit to Theodore Roosevelt.. and I looked up the quote and printed it out for my kitchen cabinet quote posting place crediting Theodore Roosevelt... I so love this quote, but am now wondering who is the first to write this... geez you can't trust google even when you try to confirm the credit hahahah Another lesson learned...

My mistake! My edit reflects that. Will also do the same above.

Teddy Roosevelt is the author, repeated by Churchill second, and I believe, Kennedy third.

It is a favorite of the under-appreciated and ridiculed. Perhaps in my memory, I wrongfully believed that it must have been by Churchill at the Sorbonne out of geographical convenience. Thank you for setting me straight with your question on the original source.

You can tell that I skipped most of this thread (and missed it the first time); I do have sympathy / and can relate to those that put themselves out there. The purpose and arrangements seemed and remains very familiar to me. I also believe they/we may be proven right soon, whether that is a result of channeling or other means of communication. I do not know what to call my messages or inspiration, just "tuned in" seems good to me.

[Eric J (Viking)]

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

Hey cheers Energy...awesome...here is wisdom...

~~~~~~~~

And Kimberly great post...To those who are having fun in saying I TOLD YOU SO !...this is not the way, you should know better...!

Anyway I wonder looking at the bigger picture with what folk will think of this...I see SteveBeckow had over 100.000 people attracted to his web site one way or another.

What you need to understand is what has happened to the consciousness with this group and many newbies who have been attracted to this message ... are they now thinking of what might be? The light works at many angles and tends to seep in the minutest hole!.

Blessings to all


viking

[Daft Ada]

I disagree, if it's bollocks it's bollocks, pretending it isn't or saying nothing about it will open the door for even more bollocks as there will be no fear of repercussions. Polite reprecusions make people think and check their data before posting. I'm afraid I don't subscribe to sweetness and light no matter what, all systems need fuses and check valves.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Your wrong Dafty...but no worries.

viking

[Daft Ada]

I take it you don't agree then ;)

[Eric J (Viking)]

Lots of positive information will be gleaned from this...I don't see all negative.

viking

[Daft Ada]

Am I in the right thread :eek: Didn't someone say we are all going to go for a ride in an alien mothership? C'ommmmmmmmmmmmmmoooonnnnnn you're avin a giraffe mate. It's like the threads saying me and my exclusive followers are all going to ascend next Friday. Give me a break. Did you really expect the mothership to beam you up and give you a ten cent tour around the moon? :rolleyes:

[Eric J (Viking)]

Dafty ...

I'm not engaging in regurgitated info that you are tryng to bask in and look good...

Keep on trucking...and look above.

Good day.

viking

[Daft Ada]

Now now, what happened to the sense of fun you were talking about, there's never a need for remarks like that all you do is show members your true nature, if you don't want to play take your ball and run, but keep the name calling to yourself.

[cellardoor]

Am I in the right thread :eek: Didn't someone say we are all going to go for a ride in an alien mothership? C'ommmmmmmmmmmmmmoooonnnnnn you're avin a giraffe mate. It's like the threads saying me and my exclusive followers are all going to ascend next Friday. Give me a break. Did you really expect the mothership to beam you up and give you a ten cent tour around the moon? :rolleyes:

I think we are prisoners of our own limitations, didn't we think it impossible to get to the moon at one time?

[Daft Ada]

We've been to the moon :shocked: I've been stood in this blasted Que for two days, when did you go? ;)

[anthony]

Miracles only happen if you believe in miracles - Paulo Coelho

[EnergyGardener]

Am I in the right thread :eek: Didn't someone say we are all going to go for a ride in an alien mothership? C'ommmmmmmmmmmmmmoooonnnnnn you're avin a giraffe mate. It's like the threads saying me and my exclusive followers are all going to ascend next Friday. Give me a break. Did you really expect the mothership to beam you up and give you a ten cent tour around the moon? :rolleyes:

I think we are prisoners of our own limitations, didn't we think it impossible to get to the moon at one time?

cellardoor,

I don't think you will convince anyone that is well intentioned but against any truth to channeled messages; or those whose paid job it is to cause you to question our sanity, in order to have members of our Light Family to take steps backwards.

Keep your travel bag near the front door. To be safe, take a digital camera, a cable, a laptop, and an extra flashdrive for storage. And, I wouldn't take a good pair of shoes; then you can return with a new "imported" running pair.:cool:

[RMorgan]

Am I in the right thread :eek: Didn't someone say we are all going to go for a ride in an alien mothership? C'ommmmmmmmmmmmmmoooonnnnnn you're avin a giraffe mate. It's like the threads saying me and my exclusive followers are all going to ascend next Friday. Give me a break. Did you really expect the mothership to beam you up and give you a ten cent tour around the moon? :rolleyes:

I think we are prisoners of our own limitations, didn't we think it impossible to get to the moon at one time?

cellardoor,

I don't think you will convince anyone that is well intentioned but against any truth to channeled messages; or those whose paid job it is to cause you to question our sanity, in order to have members of our Light Family to take steps backwards.

Keep you travel bag near the front door. To be safe, take a digital camera, a cable, a laptop, and an extra flashdrive for storage. And, I wouldn't take a good pair of shoes; then you can return with a new "imported" running pair.:cool:


Hey my friend,

Please, now we have a Light family here? I guess we´re supposed to have a Dark Family as well?

I don´t think this dividing reasoning is pretty healthy, do you? I mean, this labeling stuff is proved to be wrong by history.

I also think it´s a bit paranoid to think that there are members here who are paid to cause confusion.

Why would someone pay individual forum members to cause confusion, if they could pay characters such as Steve Beckow and alike, which would make so much more damage, reaching millions of persons with just one crazy blog post? It would be also much more economically wise as well.

Anyway, this is just an observation. :)

Cheers,

Raf.

[NeverMind]

Miracles only happen if you believe in miracles - Paulo Coelho

That sounds nice, my friend, but it is not necessarily true.
I have seen miracles happen to people who scoffed at them and did not believe in miracles at all.
I have also seen people who believed in miracles go through life without ever experiencing one (as far as they knew).

I do know this: anything is possible.
I KNOW that.

But I also know that not everything anyone says is necessarily the truth. :-)

¤=[Post Update]=¤



Why would someone pay individual forum members to cause confusion, if they could pay characters such as Steve Beckow and alike, which would make so much more damage, reaching millions of persons with just one crazy blog post? It would be also much more economically wise as well.


Yes, Raf, but we have also established - based on their organisation and planning of this last "trip" - that these creatures are not the most economically savvy civilisation around. :-)

[blufire]

Deega you said: I don’t see it that way, imagined, it’s the FIRST time (at least publicly) that someone is sure that they will be part of a mission to another planet, how interesting for some members who are tired of living in this world. It’s a first that I know of…, who could say more?

Kimberely you said: I love EVERYONE and I respect everyone's view. Do I agree with everyone's view? Absolutely not! We living in 3d duality and if we all thought the same thing that would be boring!!!! However please do remember that I do respect and honor and support and love each and everyone of us!! Although ultimately as I just said what I think about anything means nothing to anyone except to me, because I (and you) have free will to chose and create your/my "reality".
I take personal responsibility for ALL that is in my "reality" and I take NO responsibility for what is in your reality!!! Although it sure is fun to witness how humans Do create their reality. What you/I give attention to manifests in my/your reality (whether you/I like it or not).

This thread has had over 30,000 views

Okay, now read what Andreash94 wrote in post #580.

I'm starting to belive evrything is fake even our truth,realiti,startign to lose a hope that et or sombody wil come even in this year and save us ..... i caind of say weare doomed we maked this whith our oun hands and we get the paybacktime..

Did anybody truly take the time to read this young man’s post? He is 17 years old from Romania. Obviously english is not his native language but he laboriously and phonetically wrote what he is feeling . . . read it again carefully…..

I'm starting to belive evrything is fake even our truth,realiti,startign to lose a hope that et or sombody wil come even in this year and save us ..... i caind of say weare doomed we maked this whith our oun hands and we get the paybacktime..

Can you hear the pain and the fear? Beckow and his channeled lies added to this young man’s fear and angst. How many of the 30,000 people that viewed this thread feel the same way this young man does??

Yes deega, there are millions who are tired of living in this world and desperately, desperately want something different. I bet part of the reason this thread has gotten so much response is for that very reason. Millions want a quick way or anyway out of their misery and they have little to no hope . . . .

Threads like this and false channelers such as beckow and the LIES he has put forth, my fear and great concern, is it is driving people closer to the edge. The really sad part is beckow is himself more than likely one of these people . . . . desperate for something better and so the illusions and false hope begin, his are just on a grander and more destructive scale.

YES I SAID FEAR . . . . .Kimberley and all the “light and love” people if you truly have deep love for your fellow human then that love and compassion should also include stark reality of what is taking place in that individuals soul.

Kimberly you say you take personal responsibility for all that is in your reality and that you take no responsibility for what is in mine and what we give attention to will manifest in our own personal reality . . . . I’m good with that.

But are we not . . . each of us to some degree responsible for CREATING reality in each others lives with our actions. Look what beckow or this message has created in Andreash94’s life. The stark reality is . . . . I believe beckow is now responsible for this as well as what little good he may have created.

The truth is I believe 100% in aliens and that they are with us and working with us now. I said in an early post I grew up not far from Brown’s Mountain . . . . and that’s all I will say about that.

And the true hope and TRUTH is we can turn this around ourselves. But it takes a FEW to get up roll up their sleeves and do the work . . . . . stop hoping that it will magically be done for us.

I have great hope and a dream and I am working on it right now as I write this post. I BELIEVE we can create good lives for ourselves NOW (those of us who have a few gray hairs) and I equally BELIEVE it is our responsibility to create a life we dream of for people like Andreash94 and those that have come to read this thread.

My question for you is what are YOU are going to do to create the life we want ‘the aliens’ to create for us?

[EnergyGardener]

Am I in the right thread :eek: Didn't someone say we are all going to go for a ride in an alien mothership? C'ommmmmmmmmmmmmmoooonnnnnn you're avin a giraffe mate. It's like the threads saying me and my exclusive followers are all going to ascend next Friday. Give me a break. Did you really expect the mothership to beam you up and give you a ten cent tour around the moon? :rolleyes:

I think we are prisoners of our own limitations, didn't we think it impossible to get to the moon at one time?

cellardoor,

I don't think you will convince anyone that is well intentioned but against any truth to channeled messages; or those whose paid job it is to cause you to question our sanity, in order to have members of our Light Family to take steps backwards.

Keep you travel bag near the front door. To be safe, take a digital camera, a cable, a laptop, and an extra flashdrive for storage. And, I wouldn't take a good pair of shoes; then you can return with a new "imported" running pair.:cool:


Hey my friend,

Please, now we have a Light family here? I guess we´re supposed to have a Dark Family as well?

I don´t think this dividing reasoning is pretty healthy, do you? I mean, this labeling stuff is proved to be wrong by history.

I also think it´s a bit paranoid to think that there are members here who are paid to cause confusion.

Why would someone pay individual forum members to cause confusion, if they could pay characters such as Steve Beckow and alike, which would make so much more damage, reaching millions of persons with just one crazy blog post? It would be also much more economically wise as well.

Anyway, this is just an observation. :)

Cheers,

Raf.

Raf,

You are now going to defend the integrity of all Avalon Members? Did you complain when people were accusing Kerry Cassidy of fraud relative to Bill Wood, and worse?

Cannot you discern that not every poster has good intentions?

This is a war. The stakes are high. The outcome does not get any bigger: A handful of people on the keyboard is cheap compared to the rest of their budget.

[aranuk]

How do you know 30,000 people read this thread? Where is the figures. I can only see how many are reading it now. 19 members and 65 guests.

Stan

[cellardoor]

Am I in the right thread :eek: Didn't someone say we are all going to go for a ride in an alien mothership? C'ommmmmmmmmmmmmmoooonnnnnn you're avin a giraffe mate. It's like the threads saying me and my exclusive followers are all going to ascend next Friday. Give me a break. Did you really expect the mothership to beam you up and give you a ten cent tour around the moon? :rolleyes:

I think we are prisoners of our own limitations, didn't we think it impossible to get to the moon at one time?

cellardoor,

I don't think you will convince anyone that is well intentioned but against any truth to channeled messages; or those whose paid job it is to cause you to question our sanity, in order to have members of our Light Family to take steps backwards.

Keep you travel bag near the front door. To be safe, take a digital camera, a cable, a laptop, and an extra flashdrive for storage. And, I wouldn't take a good pair of shoes; then you can return with a new "imported" running pair.:cool:


Hey my friend,

Please, now we have a Light family here? I guess we´re supposed to have a Dark Family as well?

I don´t think this dividing reasoning is pretty healthy, do you? I mean, this labeling stuff is proved to be wrong by history.

I also think it´s a bit paranoid to think that there are members here who are paid to cause confusion.

Why would someone pay individual forum members to cause confusion, if they could pay characters such as Steve Beckow and alike, which would make so much more damage, reaching millions of persons with just one crazy blog post? It would be also much more economically wise as well.

Anyway, this is just an observation. :)

Cheers,

Raf.

Raf,

You are now going to defend the integrity of all Avalon Members? Did you complain when people were accusing Kerry Cassidy of fraud relative to Bill Wood, and worse?

Cannot you discern that not every poster has good intentions?

This is a war. The stakes are high. The outcome does not get any bigger: A handful of people on the keyboard is cheap compared to the rest of their budget.

An eye for an eye, and the whole world is blind.

[anthony]

64KD4SeMeCU


http://anonymouschannelings.wordpress.com/2012/01/30/allendale-to-tots-an-update-on-david-and-bens-work-january-30th-2012/#more-288

Allendale said --- "Let me begin with an update of where we are with David and Ben’s work.

Potions of David’s latest article have made it to the highest level of office in your country. He is now being watched as an assistant to change. This is good, aye? For he and Ben to be credited for reporting on the change that is under foot, may take awhile but the change is noted and that, Tots is fabulous!

He and Ben are on the verge of two separate but similar discoveries. THIS will blow the last stinking fish out of the water! People who were of the cabal are defecting in record numbers. Even we on the ship are surprised by the velocity of the tide turning. Quite quickly one event will run into another and another.

hows that for channeled messages :)

[Kimberley]

How do you know 30,000 people read this thread? Where is the figures. I can only see how many are reading it now. 19 members and 65 guests.

Stan

This is the number of views this thread has had as of this moment ...Views: 31,998 ...however that is not unique views that is total views and I for one know I have come back to this thread at least 20 times... so 30, 000 people total have NOT read this thread but a lot have!!!

[RMorgan]

Am I in the right thread :eek: Didn't someone say we are all going to go for a ride in an alien mothership? C'ommmmmmmmmmmmmmoooonnnnnn you're avin a giraffe mate. It's like the threads saying me and my exclusive followers are all going to ascend next Friday. Give me a break. Did you really expect the mothership to beam you up and give you a ten cent tour around the moon? :rolleyes:

I think we are prisoners of our own limitations, didn't we think it impossible to get to the moon at one time?

cellardoor,

I don't think you will convince anyone that is well intentioned but against any truth to channeled messages; or those whose paid job it is to cause you to question our sanity, in order to have members of our Light Family to take steps backwards.

Keep you travel bag near the front door. To be safe, take a digital camera, a cable, a laptop, and an extra flashdrive for storage. And, I wouldn't take a good pair of shoes; then you can return with a new "imported" running pair.:cool:


Hey my friend,

Please, now we have a Light family here? I guess we´re supposed to have a Dark Family as well?

I don´t think this dividing reasoning is pretty healthy, do you? I mean, this labeling stuff is proved to be wrong by history.

I also think it´s a bit paranoid to think that there are members here who are paid to cause confusion.

Why would someone pay individual forum members to cause confusion, if they could pay characters such as Steve Beckow and alike, which would make so much more damage, reaching millions of persons with just one crazy blog post? It would be also much more economically wise as well.

Anyway, this is just an observation. :)

Cheers,

Raf.

Raf,

You are now going to defend the integrity of all Avalon Members? Did you complain when people were accusing Kerry Cassidy of fraud relative to Bill Wood, and worse?

Cannot you discern that not every poster has good intentions?

This is a war. The stakes are high. The outcome does not get any bigger: A handful of people on the keyboard is cheap compared to the rest of their budget.

Hi again my friend,

No, I´m not defending anyone´s integrity at all. I´m not here to judge.

All I´m saying is that these people (you know who I am talking about) are very practical with their plans.

I don´t see any reason that would lead them to pay individual forum members to cause confusion, because it simply wouldn´t be effective.

It is much easy to pay a new age/alternative media celebrity to cause confusion, because they can influence and mislead millions of people with just one article. It´s infinitely more effective.

Anyway, maybe they are not paying anyone. Probably, we´re causing all this mess by ourselves.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Billy]

How do you know 30,000 people read this thread? Where is the figures. I can only see how many are reading it now. 19 members and 65 guests.

Stan

This is the number of views this thread has had as of this moment ...Views: 31,998 ...however that is not unique views that is total views and I for one know I have come back to this thread at least 20 times... so 30, 000 people total have NOT read this thread but a lot have!!!

And Stan you find the number of views on the todays posts main forum on the thread title. :thumb:

[EnergyGardener]

cellardoor,


An eye for an eye, and the whole world is blind.

Say what?

Perhaps you should unpack your travel bag.... Do you need some rest?

¤=[Post Update]=¤

;)
Anyway, maybe they are not paying anyone. Probably, we´re causing all this mess by ourselves.

Cheers,

Raf.


Raf,

Nobody is paying me to add to the confusion. My wife would argue somebody should be...

Cheers,

EnergyGardener

[aranuk]

How do you know 30,000 people read this thread? Where is the figures. I can only see how many are reading it now. 19 members and 65 guests.

Stan

This is the number of views this thread has had as of this moment ...Views: 31,998 ...however that is not unique views that is total views and I for one know I have come back to this thread at least 20 times... so 30, 000 people total have NOT read this thread but a lot have!!!

You never answered my question. WHERE do you find this information?

Stan

[Billy]

64KD4SeMeCU

I decide to choose to resonate with this message. :p

Peace

[blufire]

How do you know 30,000 people read this thread? Where is the figures. I can only see how many are reading it now. 19 members and 65 guests.

Stan


And this is the only thing you got out of my post?

And by the way, I specifically said views . . . . . not 30,000 individual people.

[aranuk]

How do you know 30,000 people read this thread? Where is the figures. I can only see how many are reading it now. 19 members and 65 guests.

Stan

This is the number of views this thread has had as of this moment ...Views: 31,998 ...however that is not unique views that is total views and I for one know I have come back to this thread at least 20 times... so 30, 000 people total have NOT read this thread but a lot have!!!

And Stan you find the number of views on the todays posts main forum on the thread title. :thumb:

Thanks Billy. I found it!!! You can tell my age can't you. That's why I have it under my avatar because when I ask daft computer questions, everyone just sighs and says it old geezer, we better tell him.

Stan

PS Billy I still haven't managed to figure how to put my photo under my avatart yet. Maybe one of the young nerds can pm me how to do it.

[Billy]

How do you know 30,000 people read this thread? Where is the figures. I can only see how many are reading it now. 19 members and 65 guests.

Stan

This is the number of views this thread has had as of this moment ...Views: 31,998 ...however that is not unique views that is total views and I for one know I have come back to this thread at least 20 times... so 30, 000 people total have NOT read this thread but a lot have!!!

And Stan you find the number of views on the todays posts main forum on the thread title. :thumb:

Thanks Billy. I found it!!! You can tell my age can't you. That's why I have it under my avatar because when I ask daft computer questions, everyone just sighs and says it old geezer, we better tell him.

Stan

PS Billy I still haven't managed to figure how to put my photo under my avatart yet. Maybe one of the young nerds can pm me how to do it.

If anyone knows how to guide Stan to reduce his photo sizes to fit Avalon can you PM him, I cant remeber how i managed it. Windows Photo thingy. As you can tell i am a late comer to the computer also, :noidea: :focus:

[Anchor]

We are individuals at this time.

In our lives we experience this individuality, even though you may intellectually subscribe to the notion that all is one.

What is one individual, composed of energy, supposed to do when confronted by another?

Optionally nothing or something.

Nothing is boring, so lets consider what something could be...

We are composed of energy.

The only something that can be done, resolves down to an exchange of energy - there is no other thing that can be done.

In our incarnated bodies and according to the conscious awareness we possess we are variously limited in the modes of that energy exchange, and among these possibilities exist the speaking if a message or the writing of a message on a forum like this one.

The message is offered.

In any case for this energy exchange to be complete, the message has to be both offered and received.

The energy of that message can be rejected and if a person is well disciplined this can be done completely.

The problem here is that some energy loaded messages are not completely accepted or rejected, and the originator of them bears responsibility for their part in any damage done.

"Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me"

The sticks and stones that break my bones may be co-created illusions, but the words that never hurt me are not - they are real energy, created by those that utter or write them and who remain responsible for them and the consequences of them - and if I am not careful with my discernment, those words may well hurt me.

One therefore should be careful when projecting a message with a negative energy content (some kinds of orders, challenges, fearsome, dont touch that you will BURN yourself, dont talk to strangers, dont get in black morphing space limosines etc)

Yet, among this, all the orders and conditions are silly. We all have the freewill and the power, if we so desire, to do what ever we want to do. We are told - we can even transcend our self-imposed limitations!

So I've been reading this heated thread for a few days, wondering if we will be able, as a group to find a balance and a centering for this distortion in energy exchanges we are offering each other?

Perhaps it is time to consider what we are really doing as we partake in this chaotic maelstrom of energies.

Perhaps it is time to consider that in all this, we are all still, actually, dancing the dance of the creator and in so doing we are legitimately puzzling things out for ourselves, us and them - basically for ALL.

If you are feeling hurt or embarrassed by any of this thread, what has been said, what has happened, why not simply take some time to remember who you are, remember your power and remember YOU HAVE A CHOICE.

You can choose to be affected, you can choose what to accept or reject, and only you can do this, and you do have the power to be in total control of how this all goes down for you.

I have tried to write many times on the importance of yourselves, what is inside, what is the truth there and why this whole idea of unconditional trust is something that can be potentially misleading, and the only person you should really trust unconditionally is yourself - and the acceptance of the energy from anyone else, should be first subject to careful inspection and testing with your heart and your mind.

Would it be possible on threads like this one for each of us to aim for kinder words? A little more compassion for those who are having a harder time with the situation, a little more forgiveness for those that have accidentally caused harm to others with some well meant, but robust words? A little more self discipline in when we allow ourselves to be hurt by the words of another ?

Its all on US, all of US.

My ambition is to see harmony and balance in the world - and this can manifest anywhere - even on threads like this!

My Love to all

Anchor/John..

[aranuk]

How do you know 30,000 people read this thread? Where is the figures. I can only see how many are reading it now. 19 members and 65 guests.

Stan


And this is the only thing you got out of my post?

And by the way, I specifically said views . . . . . not 30,000 individual people.

I copied and pasted this from your post. quote0 How many of the 30,000 people that viewed this thread feel the same way this young man does??unquote
I wasn't trying to pick a fight with you, all I wanted to know was where did you find the information. I would want that info too some time later maybe. I wasn't arguing. But it still seems you are looking to argue.
Stan

[Billy]

How do you know 30,000 people read this thread? Where is the figures. I can only see how many are reading it now. 19 members and 65 guests.

Stan



And this is the only thing you got out of my post?

And by the way, I specifically said views . . . . . not 30,000 individual people.

I copied and pasted this from your post. quote0 How many of the 30,000 people that viewed this thread feel the same way this young man does??unquote
I wasn't trying to pick a fight with you, all I wanted to know was where did you find the information. I would want that info too some time later maybe. I wasn't arguing. But it still seems you are looking to argue.
Stan

:kiss: :grouphug: :kiss:

[Deega]

Thanks Blufire, great of you to respond, a follow-up.


Andreash94 comments that you referred “I'm starting to belive evrything is fake even our truth,realiti,startign to lose a hope that et or sombody wil come even in this year and save us ..... i caind of say weare doomed we maked this whith our oun hands and we get the paybacktime..

WE are dualistic 3rd dimensional being living in Corporate World where the Financial Patron run the show continuously. And they do it on the back of the politicians who are caught up with business interests over the people interest. Politicians make promises, don’t always delivered, and this send a sign-post of fakery. And this has been going on for years. That’s not new!

I will let the members concerned tell if they were in search of a savior.
As for me, I thought it was not going to be a real thing because the PTB would not allow it to be. I mentioned it in prior post. But it would be a great experience if one would be in a similar voyage. I don’t know if you had the chance to read the Lou Baldwin journey (ET abduction) to Uranus, one great story.

I believed we were created by the Gina_Abul (Anton Park work), a Reptilian race who were able to bioengineer human beings some hundred of thousand of years ago. And from the reading, there were two main characters, Enlil and Enki. Enki created us, he was the expert in bioengineering. Enlil was the administrator of the land, and he didn’t care about Enki creation. If Anton Park works is valid, this race of ET were using us as slaves, nothing new here also, been reading it all over the place, so I wouldn’t trust them, they (ET-this race in particular) would try to controlled us (their yesterday slaves), I wouldn’t count on them as savior.


Beckow and his channeled lies added to this young man’s fear and angst.

I don’t know Beckow, but the members seems to have great respect for him, they were convinced that he was legitimate, so when one put his faith in other, they stand their space on their conviction. I don’t know if this “channel” message has any bearing on this young man fear and angst, it might be…!, but there is a lot of things going in our life that can make a young man fear and angst don’t you think…?


Yes deega, there are millions who are tired of living in this world and desperately, desperately want something different. I bet part of the reason this thread has gotten so much response is for that very reason. Millions want a quick way or anyway out of their misery and they have little to no hope . . . .

Yes, I concur that people want something different!, but it will take decade if not century to have it done or a world cataclysm where the PTB will lose their strangle hole on us, the economic system and the societal model put on us all. Otherwise, one may dream of a benevolent ET that would come and show us the wonder of other world, the wonder of who they are, the wonder of what they can do, the wonder of our coming potential realization, the wonder of why we were created, the wonder of what you may think..! So you can see that our fellow members were eager to be a step ahead of us and were reading to take this great gamble at a potential cost of their life and all the family pain that would ensue.


I BELIEVE we can create good lives for ourselves NOW (those of us who have a few gray hairs) and I equally BELIEVE it is our responsibility to create a life we dream of for people like Andreash94 and those that have come to read this thread.

I would think that a “good live for ourselves” is part of the mind, but the mind is caught up with artificial values seeded on us by the Corporate and the Financial World, I see an awesome challenge that generation before us have try and fail, I don’t want to discourage you, but, we are dualistic 3rd dimensional being, imprisoned by a societal pact by the rulers of the world.

All the best to you.

Deega

[Zillah]

I thought I'd add Blossom Goodchild's response to this, only makes sense to do so! <3


Blossom Goodchild: Sir Steve Beckow !
February 6, 2012

http://blossomgoodchild.blogspot.com/2012/02/sir-steve-beckow.html

Ok , my twopence worth … One small step for man … One Giant leap for mankind!
MAN-KIND … and this is what we are … Loving, Kind souls of Light and that is what we shall continue to be … no matter what we are confronted with. We will not succumb to the naysayers and those who wish us ill … We WILL however shine our Light stronger and brighter than ever in the knowledge that there are souls on Earth such as Sir Steve Beckow … who are prepared to take their honour and integrity to the very edge of the cliff and indeed then TRUST and jump off … in the name of Love and Truth!

Did he fly? Yes, in the eyes of those who understand. For it is not in the ‘happening’ or the ‘non happening’ it is in the ‘doing of’ and recognising the energy that the event caused. Look around you folks … did we Lighten up the planet with excitement once again? YES WE DID. Because of the KNOWING in our very hearts that IT WAS POSSIBLE!

Oct 14th did the same. So many consider it to be a failure … a no show … not me … Knowing what I know … it changed the vibration of the planet and woke many … as indeed news of this trip did … so should it be anyone’s Truth that this was all ‘the darks ‘doing … whoo hoo , THE LIGHT won again!!

How many of us had bags packed and waiting … I did! PROUD TO ADMIT IT! I had such fun as I ‘lightly packed’ … yet oh! … How would I survive ten days without my hairdryer, especially with that press call at the end of it!

LIGHTEN UP … LIGHTEN UP … LIGHTEN UP!!!

I was ready … I had so much excitement in my inbox from those who I was going to meet, after only being in contact with them via email … oh my oh my , it was fabulous!!

Did I have doubts?? Der!!! OF COURSE … I AM HUMAN … yet as much as HUMANLY POSSIBLE I chose to remain in the Highest Vibration about the trip … I had NO DOUBTS it COULD happen … yet ,there were times I had doubts that it WOULD … and when I did … I changed my vibe … simple as that!

Memories of FEELINGS of Oct 14th 2008 presented themselves … more so in empathy for Steve … in fact he did write to me saying ‘now he knew how I felt on Oct 13th!’… And even THEN for me … members of family and close friends had NO doubts … it was me looking up at the stars at night saying ‘ You’d better ****** show up!’

Truth is …would I turn back time if I could and NOT have sent the message out? NOPE SIREE BOB! I did what I came here to do, simple as that … and Steve has done the same. The depths to which this ‘fearless’ act shall reach as time continues will become apparent … and IT’S ALL GOOD!

That’s the marvellous thing … we who KNOW … KNOW that this really doesn’t matter on another level. It’s just part of the elevation plan! WE KNOW THAT deep inside.

For those who struggle with that … think about it … If you are down and confused and angry about it … what is it that you need to look at? Certainly not Steve and his position in all of this … and indeed not Linda. To me without question … both these souls’ intentions are for the good of all. They have bravely laid themselves open to all this … with nothing other than the intent of serving humanity … so to those who choose to slag them off, I suggest you do some serious soul searching as to why you are FEELING the way you do.

I am so happy that Steve is FEELING so detached from it. Yet more proof of his enlightened Being.

OUR JOB HERE IS TO BE LOVE AND LIGHT!That’s it … how hard do you want to make it?

From what I gather there is so much that we are ‘not in a position‘ to understand … when we are in a different position … we will .

So until then … Let’s get a grip … CONTINUE DOING WHAT WE ARE HERE TO DO.

What YOU CHOOSE to consider to be TRUTH on the ‘TRIP TO THE STARS’ is your Divine right … Don’t be influenced by ANYONE’S thoughts on the matter OTHER THAN YOUR OWN. And when YOU KNOW YOUR TRUTH about it, or indeed ANYTHING … then be happy … whatever ‘your take’ on it maybe.

Do not judge others for their TRUTH on it , be it negative or positive … just KNOW YOUR TRUTH and continue forth in the Highest Vibration you can reach … in THIS moment … and in EVERY moment … keep your LOVING vibe high, so High it LIGHTS UP the skies!

There can be no plight nor fight for the Light. You are of it … you are in it … it really comes down to how high or low you choose to have your dimmer switch.

I simply cannot leave without saying:

MR STEVE BECKOW … THANK YOU … for all you have done, are doing and shall continue to do. You are one of the finest examples of how a human BEing should BE.

I cannot keep up with all that is being said and written about this topic but please let us not forget Linda Dillon. Her Being could certainly use some Golden Rays at this time too.

WE ARE HERE TO BRING LIGHT … NO MATTER WHAT OCCURS … IT IS OUR KNOWING TO BRING THIS LIGHT THROUGH AND ANCHOR IT DOWN WITHIN THIS BEAUTIFUL PLANET OF OURS.

Our planet without doubt is beautiful … yet there are plenty of humans that clearly need some working on! How can we do that? …

GOLDEN RAYS people … send out those GOLDEN RAYS …
with lashings and lashings of
Love light and Laughter to accompany it.
Blossom xxx

[cellardoor]

I love Blossom, she's so funny! :D

[blufire]

Yes, I concur that people want something different!, but it will take decade if not century to have it done or a world cataclysm where the PTB will lose their strangle hole on us, the economic system and the societal model put on us all. Otherwise, one may dream of a benevolent ET that would come and show us the wonder of other world, the wonder of who they are, the wonder of what they can do, the wonder of our coming potential realization, the wonder of why we were created, the wonder of what you may think..! So you can see that our fellow members were eager to be a step ahead of us and were reading to take this great gamble at a potential cost of their life and all the family pain that would ensue.

I would think that a “good live for ourselves” is part of the mind, but the mind is caught up with artificial values seeded on us by the Corporate and the Financial World, I see an awesome challenge that generation before us have try and fail, I don’t want to discourage you, but, we are dualistic 3rd dimensional being, imprisoned by a societal pact by the rulers of the world.

Deega, I’m trying to clarify a bit with your post and specifically the last part of which I quoted. I would like to include cellardoor and Kimberly too given that you ‘thanked’ your post.

I’m not challenging or being negative . . .I’m trying to understand . . . .

Do you really feel that we are truly powerless to change the world or specifically the abundance of the life we physically live in and need off-world intervention? Or other means outside ourselves? Or even a catastrophic financial or natural event?

I do not feel that way at all. I have literally changed my own timeline and life dramatically in just the last year. Perhaps you would like to read a thread I started a while back. http://http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32007-Deep-in-Foxfire-Hollow--meanderings-of-a-slightly-crazy-mountain-woman- (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32007-Deep-in-Foxfire-Hollow--meanderings-of-a-slightly-crazy-mountain-woman-)

I believe if one can find his or her bootstraps and give them a whole hearted tug mountains can be moved. It takes both BELIEF and ACTION.

[ljwheat]

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[Strat]

I wonder if the ETs yelled at anyone for not turning off all electrical devices during take off?

[NeverMind]

I wonder if the ETs yelled at anyone for not turning off all electrical devices during take off?

I wouldn't be surprised. Apparently their sales ladies (hey, at least they are not sales persons) roll their eyes when cavemen from Earth dare ask for deodorant.
And now, a fleet commander wants to take Beckow to court (http://the2012scenario.com/2012/02/for-the-record-no-limousines-were-intended/) or something, for talking about limos.

A very enlightened lot, they are. :)

P.S. Have I missed the part where this intergalactic traveller mentions what currencies they accept?

[Eric J (Viking)]

Just recieved this email from M Ellegion ...thought i'd share...

Galactic “Dry Runs”: Analysis of the “Cosmic Sting” Operation of the Galactic Federation of Light” by Michael Ellegion


First, I wish to state that I truly have great compassion about what Steve Beckow (and all those other fellow Lightworkers connected with him) just experienced, of this most recent Dry Run, of not being physically taken aboard the ‘Neptune’ Federation Light Ship, as they were told (“promised”) would definitely occur.

Before I go on to share with everyone my “take” and insight about this and all other earlier Dry Runs. Many of which I personally have first hand experienced (probably well over two dozen). For those who are not familiar with me I am the author of the book, “Prepare For The Landings!…Are YOU Ready?”(PrepareFortheLandings.com), and the originator of a couple of e-mails, that I sent to my e-mail list, that were also forwarded on to many other fellow Lightworkers, a couple months ago, in Dec. 2011: “Tons & Tons of Gold, N.E.S.A.R.A. and our ‘Cosmic Sting’ Operation”. I was a guest on the George Noory “Coast to Coast AM” show on Jan. 19, 2011 (which can be heard by going to my other web site, ChannelFortheMasters.com, and clicking on the image of George Noory and my book). After the show I sent an e-mail titled, “Recent UFO Sighting Confirms Authenticity of book, “Prepare For The Landings!”

I would like to state that I feel that Steve, Linda Dillon and those others connected with them, who put themselves “out on the limb” on this most recent “Dry Run” on Sat., Feb. 4, 2012, are really very courageous. Instead of criticizing and belittling them in any way, please allow yourselves to have both a discerning and open mind to what I am going to share with everyone. Why this and all of the other earlier Dry Runs in past years and decades, actually occurred, many of which, as stated, I was directly, personally involved in.

So this is why I want to emphasize—and hopefully Steve Beckow and those that were with him in this most recent Dry Run, will have a chance to read this and will not decide to give up or feel that they were “betrayed”, “deceived”, “lied to” by Grener and the others of the Galactic Federation of Light. Instead of it truly being Higher Beings of Light, it was just some kind of “lower astral entity masquerading as a Higher Being of Light”, etc. Many will judge that has occurred, as well as so many of the other very negative and skeptical comments that those who have no understanding will throw at Steve and the others that were involved in this whole thing.

Please allow yourselves to hear what I Am now very aware of—and what I was partially or mostly aware of back in 1982, when I went through and experienced my last Dry Run, after having experienced well over two dozen Dry Runs, from early 1978 until that final one of Oct. ‘82’.

In order to be able to fully understand this most recent Dry Run of Feb. 4th or any of the other past Dry Runs, and why they have occurred. One will not be able to get any real clarity if one attempts to understand from a mere mundane earth human level of the ego or intellect.

I have just experienced a very powerful Vision, which also was combined with a very important communication from my own space contacts, several days ago, early in the morning of Thurs., Feb. 2nd, specifically regarding—at least a major reason why all of these many Dry Runs have been occurring for the last 33 years.

This is also why I and Blossom Goodchild, on Oct 14, 2008, and this most recent Dry Run occurred. I will explain why this had to occur—and how Blossom, Steve & those he was connected with, and myself, actually choose to go through each of these Dry Runs prior to us having taken Earth embodiment on each of our individual & collective Missions as Volunteers from the Federation.

Ashtar first used a phrase, in a communication with me back years ago right after I first saw that famous motion picture, “The Sting” (with actors Paul Newman & Robert Redford). He briefly told me that the Ashtar Command and Galactic Federation of Light were engaged in a “Cosmic Sting” Operation of their own and involve those of us who are Volunteers in Earth embodiment, against the cabal/illuminati. Ashtar told me that like the analogy of a “Cosmic Chess Game”, the GLF would eventually close in on the dark side, and “already had their king” as in “check mate,” and the cabal does not realize this in their arrogance. It is interesting that Bill Wood, the ex-Navy Seal/Whistleblower who recently was interviewed on Project Camelot, “Beyond Project Looking Glass” mentions how Dec. 21, 2012 is to be when the planetary Ascension truly begins, had used the same analogy of a chess game and how it was a “done deal” with the cabal loosing this the game.

Ashtar stated to me that it was truly a “Cosmic Done Deal”—just as is mass planetary Divine Intervention the “Sacred Promise”—when it Truly Is God’s Will & Divine Plan, for the Federation to “Make their Move”—and not before. In the phrase from the Bible, that “no one knows the exact hour or time of the day…” when this will occur, but only when it Is God’s Divine Will and not before. This does not mean that there would not be attempts to have this happen, it just means that no matter how many times that it might be attempted, it still would definitely not occur—or rather be allowed to occur, until that exact moment, hour and date, that God or Divine Intelligence truly decided that it would, and not a moment before.

This does not mean that the Higher Forces should not prepare for it or not attempt to do it; it just means that, technically, no matter what they might try or attempt, they would also be blocked from being able to do it.

And if one thinks about it, what are the two main things that the dark forces, whether “metaphysical-spiritual” in nature such as demons, lower astral entities, etc, and/or the cabal/illuminati both not want to happen; what would be on the very top of their list of priorities that they would attempt to stop more than anything else from occurring if they could? Well, to me it has always been very obvious and a “no-brainer”; 1.) E.T. Divine Intervention/”First Contact” and 2.) the elimination of the corrupt “usury” federal reserve banking system being replaced by a NESARA type world financial system that financially liberates everyone from anymore financial servitude.

These two, in my opinion, and in the opinion of the Galactic Federation of Light, are by far the most critical and urgent of priorities that the entire combined dark-imbalanced forces would “do everything in their power and then some” to stop and sabotage in any way they could.

It doesn’t take a “brain surgeon or a rocket scientist," to know that if such an attempt was "Announced Ahead of Time," that the imbalanced forces would do all in their power to sabotage it.

This was to be one of the more "critically important” dynamics and realities that would have to be dealt with by the GLF, in order to pull off and succeed with these two very extremely important plans. It was obvious to the Federation that they would have to use some very sophesticated and subtle tactics. They may use so-called “COVERT TACTICS”, as in being part of a series of what Archangel Michael has referred to as “Cosmic Spiritual Espionage Missions of Light”, to out maneuver and outsmart these very same forces from ultimately being able to stop them in the end—as well as causing these forces to reveal and expose their own vulnerabilities through these very same sophisticated tactics.

I have been through probably well over two dozen earlier Dry Runs, from 1978 until the last one I specifically participated in, in Oct. ’82. Believe me when I state that not only the incredible number of type/quality of “Confirmations/Verifications/Sychronicities” that those of us involved in these earlier Dry Runs had experienced. While dozens of fellow contactees & channels all receiving—individually & separately--the exact, same info. & data that I was, that it was definitely going to happen each time) prior to each of these planned events.

I know how extremely disappointing it can be, especially when one announces over the media, which I did twice (in 1979 and again in 1982) in my own sincerity and dedication. I believed each time because of those numerous and powerful “Confirmations/Verifications/Synchronicities.” I and others had experienced up until then, that it was an actual “guarantee” that something was indeed going to manifest, because they always had. We always trusted and depend on our guidance. It had never been wrong before, and I was confident enough to be willing to be interviewed about this on several radio, TV shows and newspapers.

This is a very important point, which I am sure Steve and Linda Dillon, and those connected with them, learned to trust their guidance and communications. Experiencing profound moments where what you have been involved in is Confirmed and Verified, so many times throughout one’s life. The “skeptics and cynics" never seem to understand, that we who are sincere and genuine, are not doing these things for any ego grandisement, nor for so-called “fame or publicity.”


Tuella, who was a very clear and gifted Channel for Ashtar and the Federation, who I had gotten to know very well, had just published (Oct.’82) her famous book, “Project: World Evacuation by the Ashtar Command.” I refer to her book quite extensively in my own book, “Prepare for The Landings!”. This book was published by her over 30 years ago, it is still very insightful about why mass planetary Divine Intervention is definitely going to occur at some point in the near future. Tuella had actually first published this book only about two weeks prior to this Dry Run that was about to occur.

It is important to note, that before Tuella published her book, Ashtar and the other members of the Federation that she was in communication with, had told her that they would specifically have one of their large motherships physically appear up in the sky to her, over three consecutive nights in a row. This was, of course, very important, to Confirm and Verify that they were definitely going to do everything that they had Channeled through her. The three separate appearances of their large mothership was a final confirmation about the three separate main waves of “evacuations”/major appearances of the Light ships. When they would finally appear in mass, of many thousands and possibly millions of their ships coming down to both hover close to the earth and also possibly land in certain locations.

Back then, in 1982, and even up until very recently, until the underground bases gotten taken out, beginning in Aug. of 2011, along with a massive shift of human consciousness. The Federation being given more authority to more powerfully Intervene “behind the scenes”, and a new more peaceful time line of planetary Ascension has been occurring. Known as “Time Line One” that Bill Wood referred to, mass planetary Divine intervention was foreseen as an “emergency evacuation procedure.” Then, it had been planned by the Federation to take people up in this series of waves of evacuation, based upon removing those first who could handle the higher frequencies, and then on each consecutive wave, there would be more people taken up, until everyone who could handle it was physically beamed up—which at that time, only about a third of humanity would have been able to be saved. But then in the last few years, I was informed that the “old time line” or “time line two” that Bill Wood referred to had been changed to this more smoother and peaceful time line. Most of humanity would be able to make their ascension and be able to handle the higher frequencies. The "older scenario”, which was to have originally taken place over 7 to 8 years of time and the two to three weeks that each of these groups taken up would experience a “Cosmic R. & R.” Taken up to one of the large Motherships, and put through the Rejuvenation Chamber. Next, we would visit Agartha/Inner Earth, go off to visit each of our different galactic origins, and then return to Prepare the next larger group to be lifted up. Up until very recently, this whole series of “waves” was referred to as an “emergency procedure” for the human race, it was also referred to as the “Cosmic R. & R.” This will occur as described earlier, without having to be concerned about mass planetary destruction & survival as part of the scenario. Right before I had first published my book, “Prepare for The Landings!”, in early 2009, I had updated this aspect of the whole scenario, but was told, at least as of a few years ago, that there would still be three main waves of ships appearing over the planet and would take those who wanted to have a chance to have open contact, and of being able to experience Reunion with our Cosmic Extended Family. So the only major change in this whole thing was the fact that no longer would they refer to this as an “emergency’ scenario," even though that had definitely involved “Cosmic R. & R.” as well. Once it finally does occur--it would exclusively be termed ”first contact” and would also involve the initial, if possible “Disclosure” by the government.

This basic information, about the three main “waves" and mass appearances, along with a much smaller “secret wave" of them suddenly showing up, initially UNANNOUNCED, was what I had also been told, by Ashtar and other members of the Federation. It would most likely occur when they finally did “make their move” when it was truly God’s Divine Will for this to occur.

Sure enough, as Tuella shared her wonderful and inspiring experience, of having a gigantic mother ship three nights in a row, make it’s appearance to her as a Confirmation of their intent and plan to indeed fulfill what they have also termed a “Sacred Promise” and “Cosmic Done Deal”.

The “maddening thing”, 'how they would put on a show of Confirmation and Verification of their intent’, like a “Cosmic Kosher Stamp of Approval” that such an event will indeed occur. When it would come down to the wire of ever actually fulfilling this “promise”, it would never happen when it was ANNOUNCED AHEAD OF TIME. It did not matter that when this initial message or communication was then shared with others. After someone initially receives a telepathic or direct voice or written channeling, it doesn’t matter how clear that it was; after that person then shares this information with others, and it really does not matter whether those few people are near them in the same room as the person who first channeled this “planned” contact info, or whether they ANNOUNCE this planned open contact to the world over the media like I did. In other words, once the person who has received this basic message, instead of just keeping it to themselves, they then share this with their friends or it is
shared with the entire world. It does not matter; something “strange” happens to this “plan” once anyone else—at least up until now, happens to also know about this ‘plan” for having this more open or overt contact. It does not matter if it is supposed to be just one Lightship coming down, or many millions of ships—every single time, this “plan”: has always been unable to occur.

But had that person kept this knowledge, of this plan to themselves, and especially if the telepathic message or channeling occurred only a few seconds or minutes at the very most before the Higher Beings actually stated that they would show up. Rather than at least hours and especially days and weeks before they had planned to show up, these “predictions” or “prophecies” of such an event, no matter how “small” or “big”, it does not matter, had never been able to occur.

I have studied the lives of many other fellow contactees, who were having multiple series of physical
contacts, which usually meant that they would always be
telepathically told/channeled to, that a particular physical contact or encounter was to occur. They were always careful to keep these “short planned ahead of time” contacts secret so that the negative forces would not have time to stop or interfere with these contacts. There are a few very rare occasions, in which the contactee and channel, such as James Gilliland, for example, or Billy Meiers, when there were a small group of people who were all very attuned to the Higher Cosmic Energies. They had usually been meditating and getting their energies in harmony to a possible sighting, that the Lightship would manifest or appear within a few moments. The contactee briefly announcing to the group, when they had received a channeled message from their space contacts that they were going to make a sudden appearance, and they usually did.

Even though I had received some insight regarding these earlier Dry Runs, including Blossom’s on Oct 14, 2008, it really wasn’t until several days ago, that a more complete insight was revealed to me in this powerful Vision and communication that I referred to earlier, and I will attempt to summarize this.

Briefly, in this Vision, I saw myself and those of us who have experienced these many Dry Runs, together in a very important, almost “super secret” council meeting with certain personnel within the Federation.

I thought about this alittle later, it kind of reminds me of one of those original Star Trek TV series episodes, with Capt, Kirk and Spock, when they had gone on a “covert, espionage mission” against the Klingons (or Romulons ?), for the Federation. Spock suddenly took control of the Enterprise and put it on a course into enemy territory and turned himself in for court martial. It turned out, this had all been a planned secret, covert mission to expose the tactics of the Klingons (or Romulons?), and it was in fact, in that particular episode, very successful at exposing whatever secret strategies they had been after, even though most of the crew on board the Enterprise were not even aware of this covert mission; that only Kirk, Spock and a few at the Higher Level of the Star Fleet Command/Federation had been in on it.

It is very clear to me that a few of us Volunteers, who I will refer to as 'special forces’ of earth, such as the “Navy Seals and Army Rangers of the Federation” undertake a very difficult mission for the Federation. Everyone of the entire group of millions of fellow Volunteers in Earth embodiment, are in the same category, of having to “rough it” by leaving our Higher “Immortal” body in storage temporarily while coming into Earth embodiment, and leave the Higher Paradise worlds of the Federation.

This particular group of fellow Volunteers, decided to take on a more difficult challenge; a vast majority of these souls chose to literally infiltrate all of the many “alphabet soup agencies” of the cabal to help expose & document first hand about their dark agenda. Those courageous souls like Bill Wood, and other Whistleblowers and “White Hats” who have been interviewed on Project Camelot, and even some like Cathy O’Brien.

200 to 300 former black ops, I met and interviewed back in the ‘80s & ‘90’s, long before Project Camelot existed, have all helped to get the Truth out. Some of these particular individuals also told me how they had experienced a lifting of their “Cosmic Amnesia Veils.” Remember being on the Merkabah Federation Light Ships and preparing to come into Earth embodiment having programmed themselves while on board the Light Ship, with the Higher Elohim Consciousness Technology. Helping them break through the MK-Ultra & Operation Artichoke mind control programs that they had gone through. They knew that part of their mission was to connect with me so that I could share their experiences with others and this would help expose the plans of the cabal.

In addition to these military agents, there were a few of us who would incarnate into civilian levels who would help to
“covertly”--expose the tactics of the dark forces. By publicly--- in a series of attempts, to Announce specific planned dates of “First Contact” scenerios, over a number of years and decades, that the Galactic Federation of light would definitely be openly landing. We knew, considering how determined the entire “negative network of dark forces” was to stop this very thing, especially when these forces could always feel the sincerity and dedication of all of us Lightworkers. Then the dark forces would definitely take many different and varied actions & strategies, to sabotage these numerous attempts, and each time, more “tactical data” would be discovered by the Federation, about forces that often were more sutble, covert and hidden away from view.

We knew that one of the two most critical priorities of the negative forces would be the stopping at all costs, of any attempt to actually openly ANNOUNCE—and especially ACCOMPLISH—such an event ahead of time. This was the reason that a few of us would be willing to covertly “set up,” being able to FOOL/OUTSMART these negative covert forces—or else it would eventually occur in one of these attempts. In other words, either way, we would persevere, because every time one or more of us would sincerely announce one of these attempts, this would guarantee that the dark forces would expose their own tactics more thoroughly.

I do not feel that it somehow really matters now, since we are in the long awaited and powerful year of 2012. For many of us from our space contacts it is too late for the dark forces to ever be able to stop what is already an inevitable Victory of the Light. We have succeeded at stopping the cabal from their plans of mass human genocide and every other twisted thing they had attempted to manifest in the old time line.

These many Dry Runs actually caused the dark forces to subtly show the Federation, exposing their most secret, cunning and covert tactics that they normally do not reveal to those of the Light. It was this very thing that had been hoped, which each time they acted “behind the scenes”, they revealed “psychological” weaknesses and secrets about themselves that had never been able to be detected before in any other way, by the Higher Forces.

Part of these tactics, like the observance, of unmarked government vans parked near Steve Beckow, is just one of the “more obvious” presence of forces—even of this “late date” of early 2012. They still want to hide in the shadows” and make it “impossible,” that we could be able to openly and peacefully, announce such an event as one or more ships openly coming down to either land or hover very close overhead.

Other past attempts that I went through to “initiate" open contact, I was aware later and informed by Ashtar and the rest of the “Company of Heaven’ that had they Really come down to become Cosmically “up close and personel” with us. Those who waited covertly near by, were determined to create an incident that could have been mistakingly interrupted as an “alien invasion” scenario. They were ready to literally start firing upon us with their back engineered laser weapons.

In final analysis, it is obvious, that as far as any other future attempts by we civilians to openly Announce contact—at least for awhile, until either official Disclosure occurs. The concept of a “Secret Wave,” of Federation Light Ships suddenly and “covertly” arriving on the scene, so that there is no time for the organized negative forces to create any interference, are obviously the only way that our long awaited & Promised “Cosmic Homecoming is going to occur. It will ultimately occur, I have total faith about that, for it is indeed a “Sacred Promise” and “Cosmic Done Deal” of it all happening; it is only a matter of time, and it will finally occur. As we Lightworkers continue to ground the Light and help to shift the energy upon Mother Earth until it DOES occur, as I always like to say, “Keep Your Eyes On the Skies!” and, oh yes…”Prepare For The Landings!”

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viking

[Kimberley]

WOW perfect information!!!
Galactic “Dry Runs”: Analysis of the “Cosmic Sting” Operation of the Galactic Federation of Light” by Michael Ellegion

Would a new thread be in order? what would be a good title?

This pulls so many of the pieces together~~ Bill Wood Steve B the underground bases and most importantly the “Cosmic Done Deal” !!!

Much love!

[Phoenix1304]

Perhaps Winston Churchill first said it best in the excerpt from his speech, "Citizenship In a Republic" delivered at the Sorbonne, in Paris, France on 23 April, 1910:


It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

Hahahah this is too funny... yesterday someone posted this same quote but gave credit to Theodore Roosevelt.. and I looked up the quote and printed it out for my kitchen cabinet quote posting place crediting Theodore Roosevelt... I so love this quote, but am now wondering who is the first to write this... geez you can't trust google even when you try to confirm the credit hahahah Another lesson learned...

Hi Kimberley, it was me that posted it. I had it in my kitchen for years, it was a great comfort! I only recently discovered it was Theodore Roosevelt and that seems to be the overwhelming consensus when I checked Google. I know a few good Winston Churchill quotes, but this isn't one of them as far as I know!

[blufire]

Viking . . . .Is Michael Ellegion a channeler and is this a channeled message?

[RMorgan]

Hey friends! :)

The creator of the article (post 632) writes the words "dry run" about 20 times...

Is she/he trying to impose something, or plant an excuse into our heads?

I could certainly find better words for it, instead of "dry run".

This "dry run" idea is indeed very dry, because it can´t slip down my throat...

Oh, by the way, I loved this "Cosmic Spiritual Espionage Missions of Light” thing! So funny! :)

Cheers,

Raf.

[jackovesk]

Just recieved this email from M Ellegion ...thought i'd share...

Galactic “Dry Runs”: Analysis of the “Cosmic Sting” Operation of the Galactic Federation of Light” by Michael Ellegion


First, I wish to state that I truly have great compassion about what Steve Beckow (and all those other fellow Lightworkers connected with him) just experienced, of this most recent Dry Run, of not being physically taken aboard the ‘Neptune’ Federation Light Ship, as they were told (“promised”) would definitely occur.

Before I go on to share with everyone my “take” and insight about this and all other earlier Dry Runs. Many of which I personally have first hand experienced (probably well over two dozen). For those who are not familiar with me I am the author of the book, “Prepare For The Landings!…Are YOU Ready?”(PrepareFortheLandings.com), and the originator of a couple of e-mails, that I sent to my e-mail list, that were also forwarded on to many other fellow Lightworkers, a couple months ago, in Dec. 2011: “Tons & Tons of Gold, N.E.S.A.R.A. and our ‘Cosmic Sting’ Operation”. I was a guest on the George Noory “Coast to Coast AM” show on Jan. 19, 2011 (which can be heard by going to my other web site, ChannelFortheMasters.com, and clicking on the image of George Noory and my book). After the show I sent an e-mail titled, “Recent UFO Sighting Confirms Authenticity of book, “Prepare For The Landings!”

I would like to state that I feel that Steve, Linda Dillon and those others connected with them, who put themselves “out on the limb” on this most recent “Dry Run” on Sat., Feb. 4, 2012, are really very courageous. Instead of criticizing and belittling them in any way, please allow yourselves to have both a discerning and open mind to what I am going to share with everyone. Why this and all of the other earlier Dry Runs in past years and decades, actually occurred, many of which, as stated, I was directly, personally involved in.

So this is why I want to emphasize—and hopefully Steve Beckow and those that were with him in this most recent Dry Run, will have a chance to read this and will not decide to give up or feel that they were “betrayed”, “deceived”, “lied to” by Grener and the others of the Galactic Federation of Light. Instead of it truly being Higher Beings of Light, it was just some kind of “lower astral entity masquerading as a Higher Being of Light”, etc. Many will judge that has occurred, as well as so many of the other very negative and skeptical comments that those who have no understanding will throw at Steve and the others that were involved in this whole thing.

Please allow yourselves to hear what I Am now very aware of—and what I was partially or mostly aware of back in 1982, when I went through and experienced my last Dry Run, after having experienced well over two dozen Dry Runs, from early 1978 until that final one of Oct. ‘82’.

In order to be able to fully understand this most recent Dry Run of Feb. 4th or any of the other past Dry Runs, and why they have occurred. One will not be able to get any real clarity if one attempts to understand from a mere mundane earth human level of the ego or intellect.

I have just experienced a very powerful Vision, which also was combined with a very important communication from my own space contacts, several days ago, early in the morning of Thurs., Feb. 2nd, specifically regarding—at least a major reason why all of these many Dry Runs have been occurring for the last 33 years.

This is also why I and Blossom Goodchild, on Oct 14, 2008, and this most recent Dry Run occurred. I will explain why this had to occur—and how Blossom, Steve & those he was connected with, and myself, actually choose to go through each of these Dry Runs prior to us having taken Earth embodiment on each of our individual & collective Missions as Volunteers from the Federation.

Ashtar first used a phrase, in a communication with me back years ago right after I first saw that famous motion picture, “The Sting” (with actors Paul Newman & Robert Redford). He briefly told me that the Ashtar Command and Galactic Federation of Light were engaged in a “Cosmic Sting” Operation of their own and involve those of us who are Volunteers in Earth embodiment, against the cabal/illuminati. Ashtar told me that like the analogy of a “Cosmic Chess Game”, the GLF would eventually close in on the dark side, and “already had their king” as in “check mate,” and the cabal does not realize this in their arrogance. It is interesting that Bill Wood, the ex-Navy Seal/Whistleblower who recently was interviewed on Project Camelot, “Beyond Project Looking Glass” mentions how Dec. 21, 2012 is to be when the planetary Ascension truly begins, had used the same analogy of a chess game and how it was a “done deal” with the cabal loosing this the game.

Ashtar stated to me that it was truly a “Cosmic Done Deal”—just as is mass planetary Divine Intervention the “Sacred Promise”—when it Truly Is God’s Will & Divine Plan, for the Federation to “Make their Move”—and not before. In the phrase from the Bible, that “no one knows the exact hour or time of the day…” when this will occur, but only when it Is God’s Divine Will and not before. This does not mean that there would not be attempts to have this happen, it just means that no matter how many times that it might be attempted, it still would definitely not occur—or rather be allowed to occur, until that exact moment, hour and date, that God or Divine Intelligence truly decided that it would, and not a moment before.

This does not mean that the Higher Forces should not prepare for it or not attempt to do it; it just means that, technically, no matter what they might try or attempt, they would also be blocked from being able to do it.

And if one thinks about it, what are the two main things that the dark forces, whether “metaphysical-spiritual” in nature such as demons, lower astral entities, etc, and/or the cabal/illuminati both not want to happen; what would be on the very top of their list of priorities that they would attempt to stop more than anything else from occurring if they could? Well, to me it has always been very obvious and a “no-brainer”; 1.) E.T. Divine Intervention/”First Contact” and 2.) the elimination of the corrupt “usury” federal reserve banking system being replaced by a NESARA type world financial system that financially liberates everyone from anymore financial servitude.

These two, in my opinion, and in the opinion of the Galactic Federation of Light, are by far the most critical and urgent of priorities that the entire combined dark-imbalanced forces would “do everything in their power and then some” to stop and sabotage in any way they could.

It doesn’t take a “brain surgeon or a rocket scientist," to know that if such an attempt was "Announced Ahead of Time," that the imbalanced forces would do all in their power to sabotage it.

This was to be one of the more "critically important” dynamics and realities that would have to be dealt with by the GLF, in order to pull off and succeed with these two very extremely important plans. It was obvious to the Federation that they would have to use some very sophesticated and subtle tactics. They may use so-called “COVERT TACTICS”, as in being part of a series of what Archangel Michael has referred to as “Cosmic Spiritual Espionage Missions of Light”, to out maneuver and outsmart these very same forces from ultimately being able to stop them in the end—as well as causing these forces to reveal and expose their own vulnerabilities through these very same sophisticated tactics.

I have been through probably well over two dozen earlier Dry Runs, from 1978 until the last one I specifically participated in, in Oct. ’82. Believe me when I state that not only the incredible number of type/quality of “Confirmations/Verifications/Sychronicities” that those of us involved in these earlier Dry Runs had experienced. While dozens of fellow contactees & channels all receiving—individually & separately--the exact, same info. & data that I was, that it was definitely going to happen each time) prior to each of these planned events.

I know how extremely disappointing it can be, especially when one announces over the media, which I did twice (in 1979 and again in 1982) in my own sincerity and dedication. I believed each time because of those numerous and powerful “Confirmations/Verifications/Synchronicities.” I and others had experienced up until then, that it was an actual “guarantee” that something was indeed going to manifest, because they always had. We always trusted and depend on our guidance. It had never been wrong before, and I was confident enough to be willing to be interviewed about this on several radio, TV shows and newspapers.

This is a very important point, which I am sure Steve and Linda Dillon, and those connected with them, learned to trust their guidance and communications. Experiencing profound moments where what you have been involved in is Confirmed and Verified, so many times throughout one’s life. The “skeptics and cynics" never seem to understand, that we who are sincere and genuine, are not doing these things for any ego grandisement, nor for so-called “fame or publicity.”


Tuella, who was a very clear and gifted Channel for Ashtar and the Federation, who I had gotten to know very well, had just published (Oct.’82) her famous book, “Project: World Evacuation by the Ashtar Command.” I refer to her book quite extensively in my own book, “Prepare for The Landings!”. This book was published by her over 30 years ago, it is still very insightful about why mass planetary Divine Intervention is definitely going to occur at some point in the near future. Tuella had actually first published this book only about two weeks prior to this Dry Run that was about to occur.

It is important to note, that before Tuella published her book, Ashtar and the other members of the Federation that she was in communication with, had told her that they would specifically have one of their large motherships physically appear up in the sky to her, over three consecutive nights in a row. This was, of course, very important, to Confirm and Verify that they were definitely going to do everything that they had Channeled through her. The three separate appearances of their large mothership was a final confirmation about the three separate main waves of “evacuations”/major appearances of the Light ships. When they would finally appear in mass, of many thousands and possibly millions of their ships coming down to both hover close to the earth and also possibly land in certain locations.

Back then, in 1982, and even up until very recently, until the underground bases gotten taken out, beginning in Aug. of 2011, along with a massive shift of human consciousness. The Federation being given more authority to more powerfully Intervene “behind the scenes”, and a new more peaceful time line of planetary Ascension has been occurring. Known as “Time Line One” that Bill Wood referred to, mass planetary Divine intervention was foreseen as an “emergency evacuation procedure.” Then, it had been planned by the Federation to take people up in this series of waves of evacuation, based upon removing those first who could handle the higher frequencies, and then on each consecutive wave, there would be more people taken up, until everyone who could handle it was physically beamed up—which at that time, only about a third of humanity would have been able to be saved. But then in the last few years, I was informed that the “old time line” or “time line two” that Bill Wood referred to had been changed to this more smoother and peaceful time line. Most of humanity would be able to make their ascension and be able to handle the higher frequencies. The "older scenario”, which was to have originally taken place over 7 to 8 years of time and the two to three weeks that each of these groups taken up would experience a “Cosmic R. & R.” Taken up to one of the large Motherships, and put through the Rejuvenation Chamber. Next, we would visit Agartha/Inner Earth, go off to visit each of our different galactic origins, and then return to Prepare the next larger group to be lifted up. Up until very recently, this whole series of “waves” was referred to as an “emergency procedure” for the human race, it was also referred to as the “Cosmic R. & R.” This will occur as described earlier, without having to be concerned about mass planetary destruction & survival as part of the scenario. Right before I had first published my book, “Prepare for The Landings!”, in early 2009, I had updated this aspect of the whole scenario, but was told, at least as of a few years ago, that there would still be three main waves of ships appearing over the planet and would take those who wanted to have a chance to have open contact, and of being able to experience Reunion with our Cosmic Extended Family. So the only major change in this whole thing was the fact that no longer would they refer to this as an “emergency’ scenario," even though that had definitely involved “Cosmic R. & R.” as well. Once it finally does occur--it would exclusively be termed ”first contact” and would also involve the initial, if possible “Disclosure” by the government.

This basic information, about the three main “waves" and mass appearances, along with a much smaller “secret wave" of them suddenly showing up, initially UNANNOUNCED, was what I had also been told, by Ashtar and other members of the Federation. It would most likely occur when they finally did “make their move” when it was truly God’s Divine Will for this to occur.

Sure enough, as Tuella shared her wonderful and inspiring experience, of having a gigantic mother ship three nights in a row, make it’s appearance to her as a Confirmation of their intent and plan to indeed fulfill what they have also termed a “Sacred Promise” and “Cosmic Done Deal”.

The “maddening thing”, 'how they would put on a show of Confirmation and Verification of their intent’, like a “Cosmic Kosher Stamp of Approval” that such an event will indeed occur. When it would come down to the wire of ever actually fulfilling this “promise”, it would never happen when it was ANNOUNCED AHEAD OF TIME. It did not matter that when this initial message or communication was then shared with others. After someone initially receives a telepathic or direct voice or written channeling, it doesn’t matter how clear that it was; after that person then shares this information with others, and it really does not matter whether those few people are near them in the same room as the person who first channeled this “planned” contact info, or whether they ANNOUNCE this planned open contact to the world over the media like I did. In other words, once the person who has received this basic message, instead of just keeping it to themselves, they then share this with their friends or it is
shared with the entire world. It does not matter; something “strange” happens to this “plan” once anyone else—at least up until now, happens to also know about this ‘plan” for having this more open or overt contact. It does not matter if it is supposed to be just one Lightship coming down, or many millions of ships—every single time, this “plan”: has always been unable to occur.

But had that person kept this knowledge, of this plan to themselves, and especially if the telepathic message or channeling occurred only a few seconds or minutes at the very most before the Higher Beings actually stated that they would show up. Rather than at least hours and especially days and weeks before they had planned to show up, these “predictions” or “prophecies” of such an event, no matter how “small” or “big”, it does not matter, had never been able to occur.

I have studied the lives of many other fellow contactees, who were having multiple series of physical
contacts, which usually meant that they would always be
telepathically told/channeled to, that a particular physical contact or encounter was to occur. They were always careful to keep these “short planned ahead of time” contacts secret so that the negative forces would not have time to stop or interfere with these contacts. There are a few very rare occasions, in which the contactee and channel, such as James Gilliland, for example, or Billy Meiers, when there were a small group of people who were all very attuned to the Higher Cosmic Energies. They had usually been meditating and getting their energies in harmony to a possible sighting, that the Lightship would manifest or appear within a few moments. The contactee briefly announcing to the group, when they had received a channeled message from their space contacts that they were going to make a sudden appearance, and they usually did.

Even though I had received some insight regarding these earlier Dry Runs, including Blossom’s on Oct 14, 2008, it really wasn’t until several days ago, that a more complete insight was revealed to me in this powerful Vision and communication that I referred to earlier, and I will attempt to summarize this.

Briefly, in this Vision, I saw myself and those of us who have experienced these many Dry Runs, together in a very important, almost “super secret” council meeting with certain personnel within the Federation.

I thought about this alittle later, it kind of reminds me of one of those original Star Trek TV series episodes, with Capt, Kirk and Spock, when they had gone on a “covert, espionage mission” against the Klingons (or Romulons ?), for the Federation. Spock suddenly took control of the Enterprise and put it on a course into enemy territory and turned himself in for court martial. It turned out, this had all been a planned secret, covert mission to expose the tactics of the Klingons (or Romulons?), and it was in fact, in that particular episode, very successful at exposing whatever secret strategies they had been after, even though most of the crew on board the Enterprise were not even aware of this covert mission; that only Kirk, Spock and a few at the Higher Level of the Star Fleet Command/Federation had been in on it.

It is very clear to me that a few of us Volunteers, who I will refer to as 'special forces’ of earth, such as the “Navy Seals and Army Rangers of the Federation” undertake a very difficult mission for the Federation. Everyone of the entire group of millions of fellow Volunteers in Earth embodiment, are in the same category, of having to “rough it” by leaving our Higher “Immortal” body in storage temporarily while coming into Earth embodiment, and leave the Higher Paradise worlds of the Federation.

This particular group of fellow Volunteers, decided to take on a more difficult challenge; a vast majority of these souls chose to literally infiltrate all of the many “alphabet soup agencies” of the cabal to help expose & document first hand about their dark agenda. Those courageous souls like Bill Wood, and other Whistleblowers and “White Hats” who have been interviewed on Project Camelot, and even some like Cathy O’Brien.

200 to 300 former black ops, I met and interviewed back in the ‘80s & ‘90’s, long before Project Camelot existed, have all helped to get the Truth out. Some of these particular individuals also told me how they had experienced a lifting of their “Cosmic Amnesia Veils.” Remember being on the Merkabah Federation Light Ships and preparing to come into Earth embodiment having programmed themselves while on board the Light Ship, with the Higher Elohim Consciousness Technology. Helping them break through the MK-Ultra & Operation Artichoke mind control programs that they had gone through. They knew that part of their mission was to connect with me so that I could share their experiences with others and this would help expose the plans of the cabal.

In addition to these military agents, there were a few of us who would incarnate into civilian levels who would help to
“covertly”--expose the tactics of the dark forces. By publicly--- in a series of attempts, to Announce specific planned dates of “First Contact” scenerios, over a number of years and decades, that the Galactic Federation of light would definitely be openly landing. We knew, considering how determined the entire “negative network of dark forces” was to stop this very thing, especially when these forces could always feel the sincerity and dedication of all of us Lightworkers. Then the dark forces would definitely take many different and varied actions & strategies, to sabotage these numerous attempts, and each time, more “tactical data” would be discovered by the Federation, about forces that often were more sutble, covert and hidden away from view.

We knew that one of the two most critical priorities of the negative forces would be the stopping at all costs, of any attempt to actually openly ANNOUNCE—and especially ACCOMPLISH—such an event ahead of time. This was the reason that a few of us would be willing to covertly “set up,” being able to FOOL/OUTSMART these negative covert forces—or else it would eventually occur in one of these attempts. In other words, either way, we would persevere, because every time one or more of us would sincerely announce one of these attempts, this would guarantee that the dark forces would expose their own tactics more thoroughly.

I do not feel that it somehow really matters now, since we are in the long awaited and powerful year of 2012. For many of us from our space contacts it is too late for the dark forces to ever be able to stop what is already an inevitable Victory of the Light. We have succeeded at stopping the cabal from their plans of mass human genocide and every other twisted thing they had attempted to manifest in the old time line.

These many Dry Runs actually caused the dark forces to subtly show the Federation, exposing their most secret, cunning and covert tactics that they normally do not reveal to those of the Light. It was this very thing that had been hoped, which each time they acted “behind the scenes”, they revealed “psychological” weaknesses and secrets about themselves that had never been able to be detected before in any other way, by the Higher Forces.

Part of these tactics, like the observance, of unmarked government vans parked near Steve Beckow, is just one of the “more obvious” presence of forces—even of this “late date” of early 2012. They still want to hide in the shadows” and make it “impossible,” that we could be able to openly and peacefully, announce such an event as one or more ships openly coming down to either land or hover very close overhead.

Other past attempts that I went through to “initiate" open contact, I was aware later and informed by Ashtar and the rest of the “Company of Heaven’ that had they Really come down to become Cosmically “up close and personel” with us. Those who waited covertly near by, were determined to create an incident that could have been mistakingly interrupted as an “alien invasion” scenario. They were ready to literally start firing upon us with their back engineered laser weapons.

In final analysis, it is obvious, that as far as any other future attempts by we civilians to openly Announce contact—at least for awhile, until either official Disclosure occurs. The concept of a “Secret Wave,” of Federation Light Ships suddenly and “covertly” arriving on the scene, so that there is no time for the organized negative forces to create any interference, are obviously the only way that our long awaited & Promised “Cosmic Homecoming is going to occur. It will ultimately occur, I have total faith about that, for it is indeed a “Sacred Promise” and “Cosmic Done Deal” of it all happening; it is only a matter of time, and it will finally occur. As we Lightworkers continue to ground the Light and help to shift the energy upon Mother Earth until it DOES occur, as I always like to say, “Keep Your Eyes On the Skies!” and, oh yes…”Prepare For The Landings!”

~~~~~~~~

viking

Good to see you back in the 'Land of the Living' Viking...

Quick Question: Do really 'Honestly' believe this 'BullSh#t'..!

The Positive - Neutral - Negative within me says to leave this 'Crap' in the 'Bottom of the Bowl' or press the 'Flush Button' to rid yourself of the stench once and for all...!

Dry-Run..:pound:

IMHO - The very Division of such 'Hyperbole' & Dis-Info is continuing to create a 'Huge Splinter' in the Alternative Community just as it has been planned..!

[jaybee]

IMHO - The very Division of such 'Hyperbole' & Dis-Info is continuing to create a 'Huge Splinter' in the Alternative Community just as it has been planned..!

woah what's going on..:twitch:....I agree with you....:p

[ljwheat]

:juggle::alien:Oh, yes this explains everything, how long has the Day’s Of Our Lives’ been running on TV over 50 years now. Any good Soap with this history of running must have really good writers, and a good staff of director’s plus monitor the rating’s to know when to spice it up, or kill off an actor, when ratings suddenly drop.

Yes this dose explain a lot of things.:alien::juggle:

[Eric J (Viking)]

Do really 'Honestly' believe this 'BullSh#t'..!!

LOL glad your happy I'm back Jacko ...remember a good harvest needs a lot of manure ! I'll keep shovelling Jacko >>>

Blufire...he wrote that himself...not channeled ...

Happy days folks... :-)

viking

[Kimberley]

Viking . . . .Is Michael Ellegion a channeler and is this a channeled message?

Yes Michael is a channeler and NO "Galactic “Dry Runs”: Analysis of the “Cosmic Sting” Operation of the Galactic Federation of Light” by Michael Ellegion is NOT a channeled message."

Go here to read michaels bio http://channelforthemasters.com/

by the way I never heard of him until seeing his article this morning that Viking posted.

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And to those that think this is all bs you are welcome to your opinion however for the record I do not feel it is all bs and find it very interesting so can't we just please agree to disagree??

Please stop criticizing those of us that find this of interest. Thank you!

Much love to us all!!

[aranuk]

WE must be very cautious with what we read. But keep an open mind. If we don't know everything there must be room in our minds for something new, surely. This statement from Viking at least gives us more information about the trip to Neptune scenario and gives an explanation hitherto the confusion.

Stan

[blufire]

How about the part where he says he personally has been on a couple dozen of the ‘dry runs’ . . . . but wait . . . . you need to buy his book.

This reminds me so much of when I was a little girl and the carnivals we would go to. Does anyone else remember the ‘carnie shows’ or the ‘freak shows’? There was always a morbid fascination and desire to go see the ‘two-headed baby cow’ and ‘the world’s smallest man’. The hawkers would stand outside the tents with the elaborately painted banners to entice you ‘to come in and see the show’.

The hawkers scared the wits out of me. Welcome to the new freak shows

By the way the freak shows brought in by far the most money for the traveling carnivals.

“There’s a sucker born every minute” P.T. Barnum







Galactic “Dry Runs”: Analysis of the “Cosmic Sting” Operation of the Galactic Federation of Light” by Michael Ellegion
Before I go on to share with everyone my “take” and insight about this and all other earlier Dry Runs. Many of which I personally have first hand experienced (probably well over two dozen). For those who are not familiar with me I am the author of the book, “Prepare For The Landings!…Are YOU Ready?”(PrepareFortheLandings.com), and the originator of a couple of e-mails, that I sent to my e-mail list, that were also forwarded on to many other fellow Lightworkers, a couple months ago, in Dec. 2011: “Tons & Tons of Gold, N.E.S.A.R.A. and our ‘Cosmic Sting’ Operation”. I was a guest on the George Noory “Coast to Coast AM” show on Jan. 19, 2011 (which can be heard by going to my other web site, ChannelFortheMasters.com, and clicking on the image of George Noory and my book). After the show I sent an e-mail titled, “Recent UFO Sighting Confirms Authenticity of book, “Prepare For The Landings!”

Good to see you back in the 'Land of the Living' Viking...

Quick Question: Do really 'Honestly' believe this 'BullSh#t'..!

The Positive - Neutral - Negative within me says to leave this 'Crap' in the 'Bottom of the Bowl' or press the 'Flush Button' to rid yourself of the stench once and for all...!

Dry-Run..:pound:

IMHO - The very Division of such 'Hyperbole' & Dis-Info is continuing to create a 'Huge Splinter' in the Alternative Community just as it has been planned..!

[svein magne]

wow ,,,,,,

[Deega]

Thanks Blufire, a few comments on your posts, I'm a bit off topic, but your questions aligned my view.


Do you really feel that we are truly powerless to change the world or specifically the abundance of the life we physically live in and need off-world intervention? Or other means outside ourselves? Or even a catastrophic financial or natural event?

We don’t have much power on the Financial World, the RULERS of the World, and here a few comments to substantiate this. If you take a look at our recent past history, what do you see…? For example, start with the year 1900 and on, we have had the first world war financed by the Financial Business and Banking System of both the Germain, the Commonwealth Nations and the US, it’s as if there was a willingness on both side to get at it.
From this war, a World Organizations was put up such that, a war happening would not be known for century. Unfortunately, a few decade after, the second World War was started.

Also, I have to mentioned the Bolchevick Revolution where thousand upon thousand were killed or disposed of by Lenin, Stalin Regimes. Weren’t they (Russians) themselves WISHING for a better World, I would think so! And the aftermath of the second WW, a Marshal Plan was put forward to bring a living standard in Europe, I think it did that, but may you tell if people are happier with their system of government, their banking system, etc., unfortunately, I would think not.

If we continue, the Cuban Revolution that put in place Fidel Castro, was it a successful dramatic change, I think so, may we say today that the Cubans are content, satisfied with this Revolution, I don’t know, I’m not on the ground.

And what may we take from the Russian changeover with Gorbatchev, are the Russian people more well off…?, I wonder!

And all the different revolutions that we have seen in this century, are people better off…?, IMHO, NO! because the fundamental principles of our System are flawed. Would another revolution do the thing?, for a very short period, it would, but then unsatisfaction would sets in and IMHO, the reason it’s so, is, we are dualistic 3rd dimensional being, it seems to me we are DNA programmed that way by our creators.

IMHO, I think that we have the ability to change ourselves, we have the opportunity to influence on others, but, we aged and can’t hold the line for long, and who’s going to continue the process…?, so I think that is a challenging task at the individual level. On the societal level, as long as the Financial System is in control, I can’t see coming a better world!


I do not feel that way at all. I have literally changed my own timeline and life dramatically in just the last year. Perhaps you would like to read a thread I started a while back. http://http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32007-Deep-in-Foxfire-Hollow--meanderings-of-a-slightly-crazy-mountain-woman-

I have read your introductory Tread. Great of you, very interesting and I think that most of Avalonians have had similar thoughts and ACTIONS. In reading the thousand of posts here, I'm led to say that many have changes somehow their life and this is great, and I wish they can keep on that way.

Fortunately, we are mystery, we are miracle, we are gods soul/spirit in an animal body, what we may do is probably limitless, but unfortunately, we are in a Society where the standing of living is conditioned by the Financial World. Nevertheless, individually, we can do so many things from the inside ourselves and we may for a short time influence others, yes!, but, we are so anxious for a better world, that we may at times choose avenues that may give us difficulties, that we call “experiences”.

One may change from the inside, getting acquainted with LOVE, first for ourselves, then to others, and keep the process going such that you will raise gradually your vibrations to a point where you will feel the power of the unconditional.

Another thing which is important is the fact that we were raised with a notion that we will somehow die in the future, and what if we carry that burden that has an emotional grip on one, at least, I think that this may have an influence on who we are, where we are going, etc.

All the best to you Blufire.

Deega

[jackovesk]

Viking . . . .Is Michael Ellegion a channeler and is this a channeled message?

Yes Michael is a channeler and NO "Galactic “Dry Runs”: Analysis of the “Cosmic Sting” Operation of the Galactic Federation of Light” by Michael Ellegion is NOT a channeled message."

Go here to read michaels bio http://channelforthemasters.com/

by the way I never heard of him until seeing his article this morning that Viking posted.

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And to those that think this is all bs you are welcome to your opinion however for the record I do not feel it is all bs and find it very interesting so can't we just please agree to disagree??

Please stop criticizing those of us that find this of interest. Thank you!

Much love to us all!!

There is a 'Very Good' reason 'Why' Bill Ryan wrote this Disclaimer



Project Avalon and Bill Ryan do not endorse the information presented in this section
and accepts no responsibility for psychological, spiritual or metaphysical effects
either negative or positive to individuals who read these threads.
User discretion is advised.
We ask that following any post of these messages that a link to the source
be provided so that readers may follow up on the authenticity of the message and/or messenger

I agree with you Kimberley...

If your really into this 'Stuff' (Go For It) there is a 'Channeling Thread' specifically designed for it...

Where it belongs...:)

[blufire]

You have never heard of him Kimberly because every charlatan out there is going to be jumping on this ‘band wagon’ to make as much money as they can and while they can and further themselves on the backs of susceptible people.

I am not criticizing you personally . . . . .I am criticizing these people that are taking advantage of as many as they can.

Just look carefully at what ‘fruit’ is coming from any of these messages or any information that comes our way. Watch, wait and think . . . what is being left in the wake of these events.




Viking . . . .Is Michael Ellegion a channeler and is this a channeled message?

Yes Michael is a channeler and NO "Galactic “Dry Runs”: Analysis of the “Cosmic Sting” Operation of the Galactic Federation of Light” by Michael Ellegion is NOT a channeled message."

Go here to read michaels bio http://channelforthemasters.com/

by the way I never heard of him until seeing his article this morning that Viking posted.

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And to those that think this is all bs you are welcome to your opinion however for the record I do not feel it is all bs and find it very interesting so can't we just please agree to disagree??

Please stop criticizing those of us that find this of interest. Thank you!

Much love to us all!!

[cellardoor]

Viking . . . .Is Michael Ellegion a channeler and is this a channeled message?

Yes Michael is a channeler and NO "Galactic “Dry Runs”: Analysis of the “Cosmic Sting” Operation of the Galactic Federation of Light” by Michael Ellegion is NOT a channeled message."

Go here to read michaels bio http://channelforthemasters.com/

by the way I never heard of him until seeing his article this morning that Viking posted.

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And to those that think this is all bs you are welcome to your opinion however for the record I do not feel it is all bs and find it very interesting so can't we just please agree to disagree??

Please stop criticizing those of us that find this of interest. Thank you!

Much love to us all!!

There is a 'Very Good' reason 'Why' Bill Ryan wrote this Disclaimer



Project Avalon and Bill Ryan do not endorse the information presented in this section
and accepts no responsibility for psychological, spiritual or metaphysical effects
either negative or positive to individuals who read these threads.
User discretion is advised.
We ask that following any post of these messages that a link to the source
be provided so that readers may follow up on the authenticity of the message and/or messenger

I agree with you Kimberley...

If your really into this 'Stuff' (Go For It) there is a 'Channeling Thread' specifically designed for it...

Where it belongs...:)

It's a reasonable request. And one that had been dealt with earlier. And might I point out that this was the only intervention made by the moderator team throughout the whole thread. I was trying to brake down barriers regardless of the out come of this thread, not because I think I think I'm right, but because we all deserve an equal say free from the disclaimer of gullibility. So If the moderator team now think this thread would cause problems to our unity then I'm all for putting the barriers back up. I did think we got along splendidly though. Regardless.

[jcocks]

I think while we're waiting for mass landings for the GFOL or whatever specific group floats your boat, we're missing very important changes that are happening right here right now, because we're being sidetracked from paying them the attention they should be given.

Really, pay attention to the way you feel now, pay attention to the way your dreams feel and what happens in them. Be in the *NOW*, and take notice. I believe the changes, the shift, could be happening right under our noses...and the magicians are pointing our attention elsewhere so we don't notice... Because we're expecting something when we should be dropping all expectations for this time and just expereiencing what is happening without judgement...

Which is of course so very hard to do, as we have been programmed to judge pretty much from day one.

[Kimberley]

I agree with you Kimberley...

If your really into this 'Stuff' (Go For It) there is a 'Channeling Thread' specifically designed for it...

Where it belongs...:)

However as I already said... "Galactic “Dry Runs”: Analysis of the “Cosmic Sting” Operation of the Galactic Federation of Light” by Michael Ellegion is NOT a channeled message.

So why is it not welcome in this thread it is not a channeled message?

Avalon posts hundreds of threads about David Wilcock material (not in the channeled material section) and he is a channel too? What is the difference?

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[cellardoor]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39702-Allies-of-Humanity-Book-3-about-to-be-released...

[qbeac]

Hi everyone, these are two possible different explanations for what may have happened with the space trip. I do not know whether either one of them is true or false, and I don’t have enough time now to research them more in depth, but I think it is important at least to take them into consideration just in case either one of them could be correct (or false).

I haven’t read the last posts, so I don’t know if anybody has already explained these two possibilities or hypothesis. Anyway, here are the links just in case you still don’t know about them:

Hypothesis 1:

Complaint Review: Linda Dillon
http://www.ripoffreport.com/financial-services/linda-dillon/gifting-circle-pyramid-circle-ad6dx.htm

Hypothesis 2:

Galactic “Dry Runs”: Analysis of the “Cosmic Sting” Operation of the Galactic Federation of Light”
By Michael Ellegion
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DiscerningAngels/message/65049

-------------------

A brief personal comment about those two hypothesis.

With regards to Linda Dillon, how can we be sure that that article is correct and not part of a desinfo campaign to discredit her? That could be the case or it could be not, I don’t know. Therefore, it should be researched further.

With regards to Michael Ellegion’s article, it is one of the best logical explanations I have read so far, and which would explain what has really happened. But I am not sure whether it is correct or not. I simply say it has logic and it is at least one of the possibilities.

In summary, to me this whole matter about the space trip is very confusing and I still am not sure what has really happened.

Therefore, it seems to me this event should be analyzed in the most scientific way possible, just like what Sherlock Holmes would do.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hi Qbeac ...

I have read the M Elligion article and yes its pretty good in my opinion...its posted further up the thread ...

Cannot see any article on the link with regard to Dillon??

viking

[RMorgan]

Hi everyone, these are two possible different explanations for what may have happened with the space trip. I do not know whether either one of them is true or false, and I don’t have enough time now to research them more in depth, but I think it is important at least to take them into consideration just in case either one of them could be correct (or false).

I haven’t read the last posts, so I don’t know if anybody has already explained these two possibilities or hypothesis. Anyway, here are the links just in case you still don’t know about them:

Hypothesis 1:

Complaint Review: Linda Dillon
http://www.ripoffreport.com/financial-services/linda-dillon/gifting-circle-pyramid-circle-ad6dx.htm

Hypothesis 2:

Galactic “Dry Runs”: Analysis of the “Cosmic Sting” Operation of the Galactic Federation of Light”
By Michael Ellegion
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DiscerningAngels/message/65049

-------------------

A brief personal comment about those two hypothesis.

With regards to Linda Dillon, how can we be sure that that article is correct and not part of a desinfo campaign to discredit her? That could be the case or it could be not, I don’t know. Therefore, it should be researched further.

With regards to Michael Ellegion’s article, it is one of the best logical explanations I have read so far, and which would explain what has really happened. But I am not sure whether it is correct or not. I simply say it has logic and it is at least one of the possibilities.

In summary, to me this whole matter about the space trip is very confusing and I still am not sure what has really happened.

Therefore, it seems to me this event should be analyzed in the most scientific way possible, just like what Sherlock Holmes would do.

Hello my friend,

I understand your point of view and respect it very much.

However, there´s no way to analyze such situation neither scientifically or logically, because, if such situation happens to be true, it will deny almost everything we know about science and, if it´s true, it will also defy the most exquisite sense of logic as well.

This whole thing is exclusively in the field of the belief system (until it actually happens and undeniable evidence is made public), and both science and logic are mere adjuncts in such field.

If you choose to believe such trip, it´s ok.

If you choose to believe that the trip was genuine, but it didn´t happen for any reason, it´s ok as well.

However, beware; These so called "dry runs" could happen 200 times, and they would possibly come up with 200 excuses for it.

Anyway, if you still choose to believe it, it´s your right to do so.

My best regards,

Raf.

[Daft Ada]

Looks like John got to hear about this, he makes it clear he's not involved.

Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
The following missive has been travelling through out the universe with a story that is absolute nonsense. Normally I would play along for a little fun. But in this case I think that would only muddy the waters as I think this is clearly a disinformation attempt to discredit me. I mean, why bother? Anyway, have a nice read but its only nonsense. the original spelling has not been corrected. I've never heard of a Mr. Beckow.

John Lear February 7, 2012


It was a long tour. It’s a big ship.

A literal flying city. Sorry I didn’t report back sooner. I was exhausted. The amount of wondrous things I saw and all the information I learned can really tire one out. Anyway only a small number of folks were actually picked up. 25 that I counted personally. It was told to us that Mr Beckow and a lot of others could not be picked up at this time due to the fact that Mr Beckow made all of this too public.

It was supposed to be a behind the scenes first step. But with all the attention on Mr Beckow it was almost impossible for them to retrieve him and most of the others as there were safety concerns. We were told that Mr Beckow and others were put under surveillance after all this becoming so public against the wishes of those on the Neptune. But they said they do appreciate all the work he has done and he will be contacted personally at the first possible time when it is safe.


Today I am allowed to take photos and post them back to earthnet. I have a few mandatory training exercises I need to go do but I will check back in later. This is all so surreal.

Can’t believe this is actually happening. Mr Beckow made this too public and had some unsavory intelligence types watching his every move. There was no way they could have picked him up without incident is what we were told. I have taken over 200 photos. However the terminals on the ship don’t have a USB port so I will ask the adviser assigned to me my best option for uploading some of these photos the next time I see her. You should see the clothes these people wear. quite cool

And I can assure you this trip was most definitely not canceled. It was revised and made smaller. You guys gotta remember there are some very powerful people that don’t want this open contact between our space family and us to take place. Especially by passing the ‘official government channels’. Might we actually learn the truth for ourselves without ‘gov’t officials’ filtering it first! this is inevitable. And from what I”ve learned what you gotta realize is that the Earth is equivalent to a backwoods small town in the big galactic picture. There are many billions more umans living throughout the galaxy than on Earth.

These other humans see us as quite naive babies actually. Like a tribe in the Amazon who has not made contact with the rest of the world. On top of that they see most of us as being brainwashed with lies and abused. Made to eat unhealthy crap. Poverty. We are in quite a sad state.

Hopefully this will all change soon. As for Mr. Beckow, hopefully he learned an important lesson about shouting things from the rooftop when they should not be. Remember he is under surveillance. At this time it is better for him to believe this was a failure and he is leaving public life. This is for his own safety. When the time is right he will be told that in fact, the trip was a success and finally be able to see the fruits of his labors.

Anyway I have already become addicted to the gravity free game court. so much fun floating around. the rest of the ship has artificial gravity, but they have told us it is only at 83% of what it is on earth so it feels quite nice actually and a bit different. You want to hear something funny. When I first tried to post yesterday I got a message “Banned from GLP” from the ship lol.

God knows what ISP range they are using. Anyway it took a few attempts before I was finally able to post. This isn’t my normal GLP ID. So whatever those other threads are seems like an attempt by the dark cabal to derail this at every chance

They don’t use deodorant! I forgot my deodorant so I tried to go get some in the supply area. They said they don’t use deodorant. The lady at the counter rolled her eyes and gave me a package that contained two small strips. really small, about a 1/4 of an inch long by 1/8 inch thick. She looked at me like I am some sort of caveman and told me to just stick each strip inside my shirt in the pit area and i would be fine. I asked her how it worked and she said it was akin to what we would consider some sort of smart nanotech. where this stuff could find the stink particles and eradicate them lol. she didn’t seem like she is the scientific type so who knows. anyway hopefully they work!

Speaking of dinner there are literally THOUSANDS of options to chose from. Including earth cuisine. I tried some exotic stuff. I tried some form of seafood from some planet they call Octuria. I tried to act polite but had to spit it out. But alot of the stuff is very similar to what we eat. And a lot of it isn’t. We have been told that tomorrow we will be taking a tour of this local part of the galaxy. Starting with a stop at each planet in this solar system. So far we have just remained in orbit around the earth. Tomorrow should make for some really interesting photo
opportunities. And I have been assured I will be able to upload the photos I have taken. But a more interesting option is that I will be able to use one of their ‘image capturing devices’ to take pictures which somehow will make uploading them instantaneous. Exciting times friends

02/05/2012

Last night we left the solar system to go on a most amazing tour of this corner of the galaxy. The one thing that I kept thinking to myself was that quote Jesus said, “In the house of my father there are many mansions”. Indeed there are.

Today I saw wonders that yesterday I could not have possibly imagined. Simply unreal. But the thing is… it IS real. I feel much much happier. I have a totally different perspective to what this all is. And it is just amazing.

My fellow humans from Earth. We have been cheated and abused in the worst possible way. We have been enslaved through corrupt governments and are given just enough to
survive. We are brainwashed into believing this is a world of scarcity. But I can tell you with no doubt… this is a universe of abundance. We have been robbed of living and enjoying life and all the wonderment that should go along with that.

They have told me that indeed the elite of the Earth have had propulsion and energy systems that would have turned the Earth into a paradise 50 years ago. But that they have withheld this from the masses of Earth in the name of greed and control. Out of their fear of losing control and losing their self appointed place of authority. NO LONGER. This will all end this year.
John Lear and Sleeper on Planet Neptune

[cellardoor]

Looks like John got to hear about this, he makes it clear he's not involved.

Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
The following missive has been travelling through out the universe with a story that is absolute nonsense. Normally I would play along for a little fun. But in this case I think that would only muddy the waters as I think this is clearly a disinformation attempt to discredit me. I mean, why bother? Anyway, have a nice read but its only nonsense. the original spelling has not been corrected. I've never heard of a Mr. Beckow.

John Lear February 7, 2012


It was a long tour. It’s a big ship.

A literal flying city. Sorry I didn’t report back sooner. I was exhausted. The amount of wondrous things I saw and all the information I learned can really tire one out. Anyway only a small number of folks were actually picked up. 25 that I counted personally. It was told to us that Mr Beckow and a lot of others could not be picked up at this time due to the fact that Mr Beckow made all of this too public.

It was supposed to be a behind the scenes first step. But with all the attention on Mr Beckow it was almost impossible for them to retrieve him and most of the others as there were safety concerns. We were told that Mr Beckow and others were put under surveillance after all this becoming so public against the wishes of those on the Neptune. But they said they do appreciate all the work he has done and he will be contacted personally at the first possible time when it is safe.


Today I am allowed to take photos and post them back to earthnet. I have a few mandatory training exercises I need to go do but I will check back in later. This is all so surreal.

Can’t believe this is actually happening. Mr Beckow made this too public and had some unsavory intelligence types watching his every move. There was no way they could have picked him up without incident is what we were told. I have taken over 200 photos. However the terminals on the ship don’t have a USB port so I will ask the adviser assigned to me my best option for uploading some of these photos the next time I see her. You should see the clothes these people wear. quite cool

And I can assure you this trip was most definitely not canceled. It was revised and made smaller. You guys gotta remember there are some very powerful people that don’t want this open contact between our space family and us to take place. Especially by passing the ‘official government channels’. Might we actually learn the truth for ourselves without ‘gov’t officials’ filtering it first! this is inevitable. And from what I”ve learned what you gotta realize is that the Earth is equivalent to a backwoods small town in the big galactic picture. There are many billions more umans living throughout the galaxy than on Earth.

These other humans see us as quite naive babies actually. Like a tribe in the Amazon who has not made contact with the rest of the world. On top of that they see most of us as being brainwashed with lies and abused. Made to eat unhealthy crap. Poverty. We are in quite a sad state.

Hopefully this will all change soon. As for Mr. Beckow, hopefully he learned an important lesson about shouting things from the rooftop when they should not be. Remember he is under surveillance. At this time it is better for him to believe this was a failure and he is leaving public life. This is for his own safety. When the time is right he will be told that in fact, the trip was a success and finally be able to see the fruits of his labors.

Anyway I have already become addicted to the gravity free game court. so much fun floating around. the rest of the ship has artificial gravity, but they have told us it is only at 83% of what it is on earth so it feels quite nice actually and a bit different. You want to hear something funny. When I first tried to post yesterday I got a message “Banned from GLP” from the ship lol.

God knows what ISP range they are using. Anyway it took a few attempts before I was finally able to post. This isn’t my normal GLP ID. So whatever those other threads are seems like an attempt by the dark cabal to derail this at every chance

They don’t use deodorant! I forgot my deodorant so I tried to go get some in the supply area. They said they don’t use deodorant. The lady at the counter rolled her eyes and gave me a package that contained two small strips. really small, about a 1/4 of an inch long by 1/8 inch thick. She looked at me like I am some sort of caveman and told me to just stick each strip inside my shirt in the pit area and i would be fine. I asked her how it worked and she said it was akin to what we would consider some sort of smart nanotech. where this stuff could find the stink particles and eradicate them lol. she didn’t seem like she is the scientific type so who knows. anyway hopefully they work!

Speaking of dinner there are literally THOUSANDS of options to chose from. Including earth cuisine. I tried some exotic stuff. I tried some form of seafood from some planet they call Octuria. I tried to act polite but had to spit it out. But alot of the stuff is very similar to what we eat. And a lot of it isn’t. We have been told that tomorrow we will be taking a tour of this local part of the galaxy. Starting with a stop at each planet in this solar system. So far we have just remained in orbit around the earth. Tomorrow should make for some really interesting photo
opportunities. And I have been assured I will be able to upload the photos I have taken. But a more interesting option is that I will be able to use one of their ‘image capturing devices’ to take pictures which somehow will make uploading them instantaneous. Exciting times friends

02/05/2012

Last night we left the solar system to go on a most amazing tour of this corner of the galaxy. The one thing that I kept thinking to myself was that quote Jesus said, “In the house of my father there are many mansions”. Indeed there are.

Today I saw wonders that yesterday I could not have possibly imagined. Simply unreal. But the thing is… it IS real. I feel much much happier. I have a totally different perspective to what this all is. And it is just amazing.

My fellow humans from Earth. We have been cheated and abused in the worst possible way. We have been enslaved through corrupt governments and are given just enough to
survive. We are brainwashed into believing this is a world of scarcity. But I can tell you with no doubt… this is a universe of abundance. We have been robbed of living and enjoying life and all the wonderment that should go along with that.

They have told me that indeed the elite of the Earth have had propulsion and energy systems that would have turned the Earth into a paradise 50 years ago. But that they have withheld this from the masses of Earth in the name of greed and control. Out of their fear of losing control and losing their self appointed place of authority. NO LONGER. This will all end this year.
John Lear and Sleeper on Planet Neptune

D'you have a link please Daft ada? Thanks :)

[Daft Ada]

There you go http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1468214/pg161 There is more stuff about it at the end of that page

[cellardoor]

There you go http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1468214/pg161 There is more stuff about it at the end of that page

Fantastic thank you!

[EnergyGardener]

There you go http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1468214/pg161 There is more stuff about it at the end of that page

Fantastic thank you!

Cellardoor,

If John Lear is on Terra, considering Steve Beckow's latest channeling that he was on the Neptune, he will likely retire for more than a month. And that would mean your rain-check on your Neptune ticket isn't good?

Will the real John Lear.....?

Love to you all,

[truth4me]

After reading everything ......it was nothing but BUNK! E.T's would not have done it like this. GFL is BUNK! The benevolent ET's are out there but they aren't the GFL IMHO ......get back to spirituality people that's the key! this 100 people on a starship is B.S all the way. Wake up sleepy heads.............................

[cellardoor]

There you go http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1468214/pg161 There is more stuff about it at the end of that page

Fantastic thank you!

Cellardoor,

If John Lear is on Terra, considering Steve Beckow's latest channeling that he was on the Neptune, he will likely retire for more than a month. And that would mean your rain-check on your Neptune ticket isn't good?

Will the real John Lear.....?

Love to you all,

Yes I realise, I have sent it to the 2012 team. You know I'm not here to follow any one. I regard Steve as a Friend, I have never pinned my hopes on this I mean it's all just words on a screen right? I do however constantly keep an open mind, and as I always say there is no truth but I AM. We can wait for the responce from 2012 or we can get on with our lives. It's all good in the hood:)

[Camilo]

Well,well,well, where are the reports from the space travelers???...did they get lost???......or never took off???

[meat suit]

Well,well,well, where are the reports from the space travelesr???...did they get lost???......or never took off???

never took off, apparently....
my psycologist friend tells me that 'packaging reality within illusion, makes live easier'

[Camilo]

Well,well,well, where are the reports from the space travelesr???...did they get lost???......or never took off???

never took off, apparently....
my psycologist friend tells me that 'packaging reality within illusion, makes live easier'

That's called:"delusion"

[crested-duck]

When this thread started I said I would have to see it to believe it and I would wait to comment. Well how did that new batch of snake oil taste to all you channellers? Did you spend money you could'nt afford to buy a new book too? The channelled section of PA needs to be put in the rubbish with all the BW/DW/BF trash that's floating around here. Just how gullable and foolish are you and how long are you going to lie to yourselves with channelled crap to keep you confused and ignorant of truth in this world. Do'nt be mad at me for calling you a fool and pointing out the obvious truth about this channelled nonsense. Be mad at yourself for being gullable and learn from making this mistake how not to be had again next time around the block.

[noprophet]

To those dancing on graves; you need a hobby.

[meat suit]

When this thread started I said I would have to see it to believe it and I would wait to comment. Well how did that new batch of snake oil taste to all you channellers? Did you spend money you could'nt afford to buy a new book too? The channelled section of PA needs to be put in the rubbish with all the BW/DW/BF trash that's floating around here. Just how gullable and foolish are you and how long are you going to lie to yourselves with channelled crap to keep you confused and ignorant of truth in this world. Do'nt be mad at me for calling you a fool and pointing out the obvious truth about this channelled nonsense. Be mad at yourself for being gullable and learn from making this mistake how not to be had again next time around the block.


anybody can predict the future afterwards....

[hexenomega]

yeah,
beautiful, if it was genuine, i doubt whether any visitor would chance their butt on taking a trip with any human at the moment, considering the collective mind of humanity, even the peace loving ones, they probably got a broadband connection and see what we see, sorry if i'm a bit negative, but i'm in a very dark place at the minute, it's known as the earth
love all, always
hexen

[ghostrider]

john lear is on one of the ships and just got word out about the trip. John said he counted 24 others that went with them.

[Solstyse]

john lear is on one of the ships and just got word out about the trip. John said he counted 24 others that went with them.

Does John Lear talk to you directly? where did you get this information?

[jorr lundstrom]

Its kind of being invited to Cinderellas party. Fairytales. LOL

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt81/sakasvattaja/IReallyDontCare-12002.jpg


Jorr

[D-Day]

john lear is on one of the ships and just got word out about the trip. John said he counted 24 others that went with them.

No, he isn't there on the ship.
And no, he is not there with 24 other people.
When is this ridiculous story gonna die?!

[Limor Wolf]

In John lear's words :
" The following missive has been travelling through out the universe with a story that is absolute nonsense. Normally I would play along for a little fun. But in this case I think that would only muddy the waters as I think this is clearly a disinformation attempt to discredit me. I mean, why bother? Anyway, have a nice read but its only nonsense"


John's friend wrote to him:

"Sorry to bug you again, but these guys I know... the alien cult in Canada, took the prank that you were on board a spaceship, and they are now believing it. Check this out, your name is referenced here: [link to the2012scenario.com]

This is a very large group of people now believe you went on board a spaceship and you are returning with some celestial message.

So, I guess take what you will from it. It may be worthwhile to come out and try to explain to these people that no such thing happened.

Or, if you're feeling mischevious you can play along. But they have a very fragile sense of reality. My guess is the people in charge are deliberately fooling the public in a very malicious way


http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1468214/pg161


Nothing else to add...

[kersley]

john lear is on one of the ships and just got word out about the trip. John said he counted 24 others that went with them.

Does John Lear talk to you directly? where did you get this information?

Please do tell how you came to this information?

[meat suit]

john lear is on one of the ships and just got word out about the trip. John said he counted 24 others that went with them.

No, he isn't there on the ship.
And no, he is not there with 24 other people.
When is this ridiculous story gonna die?!

ouuchhh my head......my heeeaaadddd.....:confused:

[InCiDeR]

Damn... I missed the takeoff... :laser:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_3jV5FcVqpE8/SSzYbnOp6VI/AAAAAAAAFqg/-SlM23TiHUI/s400/WDW+1978+E+ticket.jpg

[D-Day]

john lear is on one of the ships and just got word out about the trip. John said he counted 24 others that went with them.

No, he isn't there on the ship.
And no, he is not there with 24 other people.
When is this ridiculous story gonna die?!

ouuchhh my head......my heeeaaadddd.....:confused:

It has been said... that sometimes the truth hurts.
My thoughts on that... oh well, deal with it!