100 people invited to go to mothership - Steve Beckow

[meat suit]

a bit of excitement at Steve Beckows site...

" Above a hundred people will be leaving Saturday, Feb. 4, 2012, to board the Neptune, the mothership of Grener of Ashira, from Neptune, the President of the Intergalactic Council, for a 10-day tour of the fleet and a trip to another planet. We’ll be returned on Feb. 14 (or sooner if people have other obligations)."

http://the2012scenario.com/2012/01/bring-your-toothbrush-important-communications-for-invitees/#more-93245

hello all, page 1 - 21 before event...page 21 onwards for - after event......

[gooty64]

Will it be televised?

[Fundy Gemini]

How interesting :wizard:
Should be some interesting stories in a couple weeks :-)

[buckminster fuller]

the2012scenario.com
....

stop watching television now...

[RMorgan]

a bit of excitement at Steve Beckows site...

" Above a hundred people will be leaving Saturday, Feb. 4, 2012, to board the Neptune, the mothership of Grener of Ashira, from Neptune, the President of the Intergalactic Council, for a 10-day tour of the fleet and a trip to another planet. We’ll be returned on Feb. 14 (or sooner if people have other obligations)."

http://the2012scenario.com/2012/01/bring-your-toothbrush-important-communications-for-invitees/#more-93245

Hahahahahahahahaha!! Ok...

I just hope it doesn´t end up like one of those collective suicide sects...

[Eric J (Viking)]

Yes I was just reading this... interesting times or stark raving mad...hey it didn't stop me from applying !! LOL ...

channeled here
http://www.counciloflove.com/2012channelings/013112trip.mp3

viking

[cloud9]

I hope the lucky ones can tell us all about the trip and possibly have videos and pictures!

[Revere]

Will it be televised?

Ofcourse, payper view...LOL Will it be televised? Good one!

Peace,
-R-

[meat suit]

Yes I was just reading this... interesting times or stark raving mad...hey it didn't stop me from applying !! LOL ...

channeled here
http://www.counciloflove.com/2012channelings/013112trip.mp3

viking

awesome!!! are you our man on the inside......

[RMorgan]

Are you serious guys? Is any of you really believing it?

Do you think that if such thing would actually happen, it would be published in a blog, for everyone (including the government) to see?

Come on guys...

Cheers,

Raf.

[meat suit]

Are you serious guys? Is any of you really believing it?

Do you think that if such thing would actually happen, it would be published in a blog, for everyone (including the government) to see?

Come on guys...

Cheers,

Raf.

what are you on about? you got 6 fingers.....:p

[enfoldedblue]

I believe it was Steve Bekow's channel who also said that on 11 11 11 his followers would be actually ascending out of this dimension...there were many details as to exactly how it would happen, how to proceed, and what to expect etc. I remember at the time thinking wow Steve Bekow is setting himself up for a big fall, when his followers find themselves waking up in their own beds in the same reality. But I guess he found a way to worm outta that one the next day. Will be interesting to see how this one unfolds.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Yes I was just reading this... interesting times or stark raving mad...hey it didn't stop me from applying !! LOL ...

channeled here
http://www.counciloflove.com/2012channelings/013112trip.mp3

viking

awesome!!! are you our man on the inside......

LOL ...promise I'll bring my camera !

http://www.trollforest.com/spaceship6.jpg

viking

[Carmen]

Yes, as my granddaughter just said "Look, he's got two pinkies"! They are for real RMorgan?

[Metaphor]

How much will he charge for the tickets? Will there be second hand tickets available on ebay?

[RMorgan]

I believe it was Steve Bekow's channel who also said that on 11 11 11 his followers would be actually ascending out of this dimension...there were many details as to exactly how it would happen, how to proceed, and what to expect etc. I remember at the time thinking wow Steve Bekow is setting himself up for a big fall, when his followers find themselves waking up in their own beds in the same reality. But I guess he found a way to worm outta that one the next day. Will be interesting to see how this one unfolds.

Do you know how it will unfold?

Nothing will happen, he´ll find an absurd excuse and lots of people will still follow him.

I just hope no one is giving him any money for this "trip".

Cheers,

Raf.

[Cidersomerset]

Don't forget the photos and vids..........

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Rjw1cSF5L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

[jackovesk]

(Moooon River, Wider than a mile)...:pound:

[Billy]

Make sure they take the battery chargers for the video camera's, They must surely have a power point somewhere in the mother ship. I wonder if they will get charged duty on any presents they bring back. :photo: :whistle:

I hope they dont break down, nothing worse when you have looked foreward to a get away for so long :doh:

[joedjemal]

Well, it looks like there will either be a lot of new information in a couple of weeks or a lot of disappointed people.

According to the transcript cameras and phones (and dogs) are permitted so we'll see.

I like the touch where the guy says if it doesn't happen his mail will be going to the Himalayas.

I'd love it to be real, think of all the information a galactic civilisation would produce.

Won't hold my breath though.

[gooty64]

I would hope there is a way to work in disclosure around the BIG trip,

Kerry? Steven Greer? Geraldo?

[blufire]

Jeez Louise . . . . at least these things are coming in a few days or weeks time now instead of months and years.

Wasn’t there a thread about predictions and announcements like these and a tally of coming true or not and exposing the stupidity?

[meat suit]

Well, it looks like there will either be a lot of new information in a couple of weeks or a lot of disappointed people.

According to the transcript cameras and phones (and dogs) are permitted so we'll see.

I like the touch where the guy says if it doesn't happen his mail will be going to the Himalayas.

I'd love it to be real, think of all the information a galactic civilisation would produce.

Won't hold my breath though.

can you imagine...first on the mothership and the dog makes a mess....still better than taking HIllary C.

I really like all your posts btw. Joedjemal!

[christian]

Hahahahahahahahaha!!

That was my first reaction, too :biggrin1:

I do believe that people go on journeys with ETs, astral as well as physical, but the way it is presented and announced in this case makes me think, that this might not be genuine, but of course I don't know and don't intend to pee on anyone's parade.
:rapture:

[Daft Ada]

I would love it to be real too, and I would love to be on it. oink! Oink! zoooooooooooooom! ahhh! another flying Pig

[mojo]

The website the material came from shares this description.

Steve Beckow

Steve Beckow is owner of The 2012 Scenario and lives in Vancouver, B.C., Canada. He attended the University of British Columbia and the University of Toronto, graduating with a Masters degree in Canadian History. Steve is a member of Mensa Canada.

He studied in three Ph.D. programs but was uncomfortable remaining within disciplinary boundaries or paradigms. One dissertation was rejected as being outside his chosen field. Another proposal (on enlightenmment as the purpose of life) was rejected as being outside the university’s paradigm of empirical materialism.

He began his career as a Cultural Historian for the National Museum of Man (now the Canadian Museum of Civilization) where he published articles redefining the fields of cultural history, popular culture, and artifact studies. He finished his working life as a Member of the Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada, his chief interest being gender issues.

Steve has written around 25 books and a few hundred articles, many of them pseudonymously. He has several websites. Their subjects include enlightenment, the common ground of spirituality. life on the spirit planes, global gender persecution, automation, the truth of 9/11, the dangers of depleted uranium, and the 2012 scenario. His books and articles are available without cost and may be reposted freely.

His spiritual disciplines included Gestalt, encounter groups, spiritualism, the est Training, rebirthing, Zen, Vipassana meditation, and Enlightenment Intensives.

In 1977, Steve had an out-of-body experience which dissipated the fear of death. In 1987, he experienced a vision of the total journey of an individual soul, from God to God, which demonstrated to him that the purpose of life was enlightenment. That experience is written up here. It took nearly 20 years to fully express in words what he saw in eight wordless seconds that day.

He has enjoyed several transformational or direct experiences of Self, none of which he considers “enlightenment.” Today, Steve lives a life of voluntary simplicity and research as a non-denominational and happily-married “urban monk.”

His earlier writings can be found at The Essays of Brother Anonymous The Purpose of Life is Enlightenment is located here. For additional material on the 2012 scenario, see First Contact.

[cellardoor]

Hay people! I was a bit unsure if I should say this here or not, so please be gentile.
I've got a golden ticket.
I'm just as in the dark as anyone else on this one, but all I can say is that I have a deep love and respect for Steve, and I'm just hope to God this manifests.

[DreamsInDigital]

Which star System is this race that is doing it from? Anyone Know?

[Billy]

Hay people! I was a bit unsure if I should say this here or not, so please be gentile.

I've got a golden ticket.
.

:whoo: All the best cellardoor. Please keep us informed, If it does not manifest we are all here, if it does :whoo: is all i can say.

Looking foreward to more updates.

much love

Billyji

[meat suit]

Hay people! I was a bit unsure if I should say this here or not, so please be gentile.
I've got a golden ticket.
I'm just as in the dark as anyone else on this one, but all I can say is that I have a deep love and respect for Steve, and I'm just hope to God this manifests.

awesome dude ! its a win-win situation...if this thing comes off...wow....if it doesnt, then it was always going to be nothing but a joke....
i am just worried that Steve and his crew, all lovely people as far as I can tell, will have to retire if this goes as 11.11.11

[RMorgan]

Hay people! I was a bit unsure if I should say this here or not, so please be gentile.
I've got a golden ticket.
I'm just as in the dark as anyone else on this one, but all I can say is that I have a deep love and respect for Steve, and I'm just hope to God this manifests.

That´s great! I don´t believe this will come to happen...But who knows...

Just in case, make sure to keep us updated about this one.

If it doesn´t happen, well, we´ll see another man´s reputation going straight down the drain.

If it happens, make sure to bring us some tangible, solid proofs, if it´s not a problem for you, my friend. :)

Cheers,

Raf.

[cellardoor]

Which star System is this race that is doing it from? Anyone Know?

Grener is from Neptune but the galactic federation supposedly consists of thousands of different star nations, it was said we'd be going to
the Pleiades as there are many beings who originate from there aboard the ship.

[Billy]

Which star System is this race that is doing it from? Anyone Know?

Grener is from Neptune but the galactic federation supposedly consists of thousands of different star nations, it was said we'd be going to
the Pleiades as there are many beings who originate from there aboard the ship.

Can i stowaway in your suitcase. This is brilliant. I love it. I do know it is possible, but whether it happens only (time) 2 weeks will tell.

I will imagine it happening, that always helps.

peace

[cellardoor]

Hay people! I was a bit unsure if I should say this here or not, so please be gentile.
I've got a golden ticket.
I'm just as in the dark as anyone else on this one, but all I can say is that I have a deep love and respect for Steve, and I'm just hope to God this manifests.

That´s great! I don´t believe this will come to happen...But who knows...

Just in case, make sure to keep us updated about this one.

If it doesn´t happen, well, we´ll see another man´s reputation going straight down the drain.

If it happens, make sure to bring us some tangible, solid proofs, if it´s not a problem for you, my friend. :)

Cheers,

Raf.

Bless you, my intention is to spread this far and wide after it happens. Avalon will be one of my first ports of calls, although I'm sure the invitation has got to Bill. Of course yes this could be a disaster, but if not. you have my word I'll be here. I plan to bring back technology as irrefutable proof. Plus many pictures and Vids to delight the eyes.

[DreamsInDigital]

I'll refrain from commenting on that one, my opinions, thoughts and feelings towards the Pleiadians, well. Anyway, hope you can get some great photos.

[OnyxKnight]

a bit of excitement at Steve Beckows site...

" Above a hundred people will be leaving Saturday, Feb. 4, 2012, to board the Neptune, the mothership of Grener of Ashira, from Neptune, the President of the Intergalactic Council, for a 10-day tour of the fleet and a trip to another planet. We’ll be returned on Feb. 14 (or sooner if people have other obligations)."

http://the2012scenario.com/2012/01/bring-your-toothbrush-important-communications-for-invitees/#more-93245

The extraterrestrials named their craft with a human-derived name for our Roman god of the Seas? Right. Pard my skepticism on this one.

There is also no intelligent life of space-faring level on Neptune.

I'll make sure I have my popcorn on February the 4th to watch the backlash they get from making such tickling statements in times like these.

[cellardoor]

Which star System is this race that is doing it from? Anyone Know?

Grener is from Neptune but the galactic federation supposedly consists of thousands of different star nations, it was said we'd be going to
the Pleiades as there are many beings who originate from there aboard the ship.

Can i stowaway in your suitcase. This is brilliant. I love it. I do know it is possible, but whether it happens only (time) 2 weeks will tell.

I will imagine it happening, that always helps.

peace

Well, I plan on travelling light so, if you can fit in a rucksack then by all means.:)

[Star Tsar]

Hay people! I was a bit unsure if I should say this here or not, so please be gentile.
I've got a golden ticket.
I'm just as in the dark as anyone else on this one, but all I can say is that I have a deep love and respect for Steve, and I'm just hope to God this manifests.

How have you there no email address?

[Darla Ken Pearce]

For those who think the government controls actions of these Celestial Beings, well this is surely a wrong notion. Galactics can and do materialize anywhere, anytime and they do it in plain sight. They have the most advanced technology and power of God for recording all events that take place on or within Earth and in every other space in the Universe. The Zetas and Greys gave all others a bad rap.

Now, if the Spaceship crew demands ID's and boarding passes, or to go through scanners ~ my advice is not to go aboard! :wizard:


Project Avalon is well represented on this exciting venture, so we will have an inside scoop. In fact, the government cannot control these actions nor this disclosure at all. Since the governments remains too crooked to deal with our changing reality and a Celestial presence, the people shall do it for them and bring back the evidence themselves. Government technology is not advanced enough to even track these Motherships must less affect them, they are Kindegardeners in comparison. Actually there is no real comparison to these Celestial Beings.

One last note about Steve's Ascension statements on 11-11-11. What makes you think people who have ascended can't wake up in their own beds? It happens everyday. Only your vibration is changed. You don't morph into an angel or something and fly away, you are already one with amnesia. Your frequency is uplifted. Your perspective is uplifted, you just get a lot happier and you find greater joy in your life. You look at the world around you in a different way and it's much more colorful like someone fine tuned the color rays. Bliss comes within reach.

There is not only a mass ascension coming but individual ones taking place all the time, as well. Once you reach a certain level, your frequency is uplifted into a higher dimension while you are in still in physical form. To think otherwise is simply due to a lack of understanding in these matters. Soon all will be known and understood. Stay tuned.

[mojo]

His books and articles are available without cost and may be reposted freely.


was rejected as being outside the university’s paradigm of empirical materialism.


experience which dissipated the fear of death


Steve lives a life of voluntary simplicity and research as a non-denominational and happily-married “urban monk.”


There is cause enough to doubt...yet the quotes speak something about character

[cellardoor]

Hay people! I was a bit unsure if I should say this here or not, so please be gentile.
I've got a golden ticket.
I'm just as in the dark as anyone else on this one, but all I can say is that I have a deep love and respect for Steve, and I'm just hope to God this manifests.

How have you there no email address?

I'm sorry I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean my email?

[Star Tsar]

No on the website they say they have removed address for application so how do you have a "golden ticket" Cellardoor?

[etm567]

Ofcourse, payper view...LOL Will it be televised? Good one!

Peace,
-R- bull s**t

Not true.

If it happens, that his precisely the point: to push disclosure.

[cellardoor]

No on the website they say they have removed address for application so how do you have a "golden ticket"?

Ah, I got the email quite soon after the interview with Grener, they are just setting up another account for some people to confirm their names. This is how the E.T's know were we live. I know, sounds mad. But that is what's happening.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Did you put your name forward etm, I was thinking you might.

Peace and love

[Star Tsar]

Gotcha!
I gotta get on that ship....

[cellardoor]

Gotcha!
I gotta get on that ship....

Not sure if there is any more spaces but if this goes to plan. They'll be doing more trips I'm sure.

[etm567]

I believe it was Steve Bekow's channel who also said that on 11 11 11 his followers would be actually ascending out of this dimension...there were many details as to exactly how it would happen, how to proceed, and what to expect etc. I remember at the time thinking wow Steve Bekow is setting himself up for a big fall, when his followers find themselves waking up in their own beds in the same reality. But I guess he found a way to worm outta that one the next day. Will be interesting to see how this one unfolds.

Gee, I wonder how missed that? Granted, I could have, but I don't think I did. And I transcribe all those "messages." People were disappointed about not feeling anything on 11.11, but I don't think any of them expected to ascend. In fact, I think, but I'm not sure, that it was one of Steve's contacts that originally said 11.11 itself wasn't to be such a big deal. But I could certainly be wrong.

Anyway, I'll tell you all about it, if it happens!

¤=[Post Update]=¤



Do you know how it will unfold?

Nothing will happen, he´ll find an absurd excuse and lots of people will still follow him.

I just hope no one is giving him any money for this "trip".

Cheers,

Raf.

Gee, your attitude is so inspiring!

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I would hope there is a way to work in disclosure around the BIG trip,

Kerry? Steven Greer? Geraldo?

That's precisely the point. I don't know who the "opinion makers" are that they plan to invite, but there will be some. He also said there would be some "naysayers" invited. So we shall certainly see, in just a few days.

Should I ask my daughter to post here whether I leave on Saturday or not?

[Debra]

Fascinating. If this is real. Because you never know, if you didn´t RSVP. Seriously, if this is real, I am not happy that more of us were not included in getting an invitation in the first place!

[etm567]

So maybe we'll get to meet? Ria is coming too, I think. ;)

ETM

[cellardoor]

Fascinating. If this is real. Because you never know, if you didn´t RSVP. Seriously, if this is real, I am not happy that more of us were not included in getting an invitation in the first place!

It was a little ad hock. I think it was just a case of first come first serve after AA Michael said more are welcome. Originaly it was only supposed to be steve and the team. About 25.

[Cilka]

If I was invited my one way ticket would be donated to a good cause, I would give it to Mr. Harper, the mutant leader of Canada.

[etm567]

Which star System is this race that is doing it from? Anyone Know?

Grener is from Neptune but the galactic federation supposedly consists of thousands of different star nations, it was said we'd be going to
the Pleiades as there are many beings who originate from there aboard the ship.

Hmm, I didn't get that. Unless I missed something. Last I heard it was undecided, because there are folks from everywhere on that ship, and they all think their home planet is the most beautiful and the most deserving of a visit.

There was something about an invitation from Grener back in 1999, which I didn't quite follow.

And the way this happened with Grener was interesting, too. Steve does a radio show on Monday nights, An Hour with an Angel, and usually Linda Dillon channels Archangel Michael. This week, Steve had wanted to talk to Ashtar. But he heard from Suzy Ward that she had been contacted and that this fellow Grener, who is the President of the Intergalactic Council (a different body from the GFL, I think) had asked to speak to him.

ANd then this request came from Steve. It was his idea, not Grener's, but Grener happily accepted the suggestion as a good way to push disclosure.

ETM

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Of course I did! But, you know, I do the transcripts. So by the time I sent an email asking to come, I had already received an invitation from Steve, which I had not yet noticed. (For doing the work, I guess.)

My daughter is not happy about this at all. She's afraid Russian slave traders are going to kidnap me.

[etm567]

His books and articles are available without cost and may be reposted freely.
was rejected as being outside the university’s paradigm of empirical materialism.
experience which dissipated the fear of death
Steve lives a life of voluntary simplicity and research as a non-denominational and happily-married “urban monk.”
There is cause enough to doubt...yet the quotes speak something about character

In my opinion, Steve is as solid as they come. He always doesn't react -- I mean, he never just reacts. He always thinks and ponders and works something through before responding, and it's always a very well-reasoned, measured response. There's a word I'm struggling for, but not finding. He may not considered himself to be enlightened, but he's as close as anyone I've ever come into contact with. Of course, as always, that is just my take.

ETM

Gee, I have to run an errand, but want to continue this... I shall be back soon, though. Can't wait to meet Cellardoor and Ria! And Steve!

[cellardoor]

So maybe we'll get to meet? Ria is coming too, I think. ;)

ETM

Indeed. Small world hay? Gonna get some well needed healing hopefully. If it makes any difference 11/11/11 was the defining moment that led me to being on this list, ascension is a process. Always has been always will. And I have a feeling if this pans out, that process is going to be accelerated 10 fold. I was on Tor hill that day, and had a magical experience. 11/11/11 for me was most fruit full. Those who seek shall find. Those who don't bother that's up to them.

[Billy]

Which star System is this race that is doing it from? Anyone Know?

Grener is from Neptune but the galactic federation supposedly consists of thousands of different star nations, it was said we'd be going to
the Pleiades as there are many beings who originate from there aboard the ship.

Can i stowaway in your suitcase. This is brilliant. I love it. I do know it is possible, but whether it happens only (time) 2 weeks will tell.

I will imagine it happening, that always helps.

peace

Well, I plan on travelling light so, if you can fit in a rucksack then by all means.:)

If you have room for a wee piece of clear quartz crystal, then i will be there. but only if you can fit the crystal in your rucksack. :yes4:

[enfoldedblue]

I believe it was Steve Bekow's channel who also said that on 11 11 11 his followers would be actually ascending out of this dimension...there were many details as to exactly how it would happen, how to proceed, and what to expect etc. I remember at the time thinking wow Steve Bekow is setting himself up for a big fall, when his followers find themselves waking up in their own beds in the same reality. But I guess he found a way to worm outta that one the next day. Will be interesting to see how this one unfolds.

Gee, I wonder how missed that? Granted, I could have, but I don't think I did. And I transcribe all those "messages." People were disappointed about not feeling anything on 11.11, but I don't think any of them expected to ascend. In fact, I think, but I'm not sure, that it was one of Steve's contacts that originally said 11.11 itself wasn't to be such a big deal. But I could certainly be wrong.

No need for sarcasm. As I said 'I believe it was Steve...." I did not say "it was..." thus implying I could be wrong. 11 11 11 was a long time ago and I read a lot of material, so there is every chance that i am mistaken. You obviously are in a position to know more about this than me. My apologies if I am mistaken (which it appears I probably am). Thanks for the heads up :)

xx

[seko]

What seems right is just to do something useful within our own lifes and let them come back with the results from that trip whatever be the outcome of this matter

[cellardoor]

You're right etm nothing decided, Pleiades was mentioned.

[WhiteFeather]

Interesting, I may take the 2nd flight out myself, Cant leave earth without a two weeks notice,,, Lets see what culminates on the first maiden starship voyage. To those whom are going, Keep us posted, and drop by Avalon to give us a play by play on your adventure, I hope there is Wifi on board so we can Skype perhaps.

Heres The Transcript:
http://the2012scenario.com/world-disclosure-day/trip-to-greners-neptune-feb-4-2012/transcript-of-an-hour-with-an-angel-with-grener-jan-31-2012/

[cellardoor]

Which star System is this race that is doing it from? Anyone Know?

Grener is from Neptune but the galactic federation supposedly consists of thousands of different star nations, it was said we'd be going to
the Pleiades as there are many beings who originate from there aboard the ship.

Can i stowaway in your suitcase. This is brilliant. I love it. I do know it is possible, but whether it happens only (time) 2 weeks will tell.

I will imagine it happening, that always helps.

peace

Well, I plan on travelling light so, if you can fit in a rucksack then by all means.:)

If you have room for a wee piece of clear quartz crystal, then i will be there. but only if you can fit the crystal in your rucksack. :yes4:

How about I bring you back some crystal technology instead? Lol

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Interesting, I may take the 2nd flight out myself, Cant leave earth without a two weeks notice,,, Lets see what culminates on the first maiden starship voyage. To those whom are going, Keep us posted, and drop by Avalon to give us a play by play on your adventure, just hope there is Wifi on board.

We're told there is Wifi or at least means to contact home. So yes expect updates!

[WhiteFeather]

Cellardoor, will you be going on this voyage as well?

[cellardoor]

Yes I will:)

[Star Tsar]

Interesting, I may take the 2nd flight out myself, Cant leave earth without a two weeks notice,,, Lets see what culminates on the first maiden starship voyage. To those whom are going, Keep us posted, and drop by Avalon to give us a play by play on your adventure, I hope there is Wifi on board so we can Skype perhaps.

Heres The Transcript:
http://the2012scenario.com/world-disclosure-day/trip-to-greners-neptune-feb-4-2012/transcript-of-an-hour-with-an-angel-with-grener-jan-31-2012/

Dude they said we can bring our equipment but they've got theirs and they wanna share!

[Mulder]

I hope the 100+ passengers don't have to drink the Kool-Aid or commit suicide first like the Heaven's Gate Crew did in the 1990s. I personally would NEVER go on a spaceship because I'm afraid I'd not be able to return. Not that the Earth is good, but because their planet might be worse!

[cellardoor]

I hope the 100+ passengers don't have to drink the Kool-Aid or commit suicide first like the Heaven's Gate Crew did in the 1990s. I personally would NEVER go on a spaceship because I'm afraid I'd not be able to return. Not that the Earth is good, but because their planet might be worse!

Well we asked them so I'm not worried about being taken away, as for suicide, that would be quite pointless wouldn't it? I personaly see this as the light workers disclosure project. If it doesn't transpire then we can just add it to the list of other failed attempt us "little people" have made. But I am forever optimistic. We'll see.

[Star Tsar]

I agree cellardoor our lives are filled with danger but a lil gamble can spice things up...

[schneider]

Looks like someone is taking "disclosure" into their own hands. If the governments won't tell us what is going on, then we the citizens will have to do it. Just a thought.

[cellardoor]

I agree cellardoor our lives are filled with danger but a lil gamble can spice things up...

He who dares rodders, he who dares!

[Star Tsar]

I agree cellardoor our lives are filled with danger but a lil gamble can spice things up...

He who dares rodders, he who dares!

You know it makes sense!

[cellardoor]

http://the2012scenario.com/2012/02/the-maiden-voyage-of-a-lifetime/


The Maiden Voyage of a Lifetime
By Vina

See previous articles and transcripts for information on this Voyage to the Stars.

I’d like to paraphase some things that AAM said to members of the Bridge Fund/2012S team yesterday. This reading has not been referred to so far because these words came in a BF group reading.

AAM stated that the upcoming trip will solidify our team’s mission and purpose, unity and community and gives us an opportunity, in a deeper way, to know that we are all supported both here on Earth and beyond.

He reminded us not to allow outside ‘overwhelm or bombardment’ to influence our own energy levels and our own unique spiritual journeys. There may be moments of anxiety, doubts, fears, judgments and many ‘what if’s,’ he said, but these shadows of fear keep us away from living in the moment and succeeding in our evolving assignments. It can hamper and interfere with the refinement and possibility for us to be fully present in the moment of a most amazing experience.

Remember, he said, this is not just about the individual, but the rising collective spirit and how we are here to support each other, whether it be to validate each other’s experience, assume roles as forerunners, bridging new worlds or to just weep in joy and dance among “soul-journers.”

Now is not the time to be divided or issue ego judgments against each other. More than ever, the Light requires us to stand strong in solidarity, soul kinship and galactic friendship among our family on Earth as well as our star brothers and sisters.

If you have been confirmed as one of many embarking on this trip, he said, know that you will be jump-starting the process of Disclosure. There is no room for half-heartedness or reticence. This journey is for those who are ready and eager to have the veils ripped off, AAM stated.

We are at a critical juncture and turning point on this planet. Each of you have been given a wonderful opportunity to be part of a massive game changer, AAM told us. Envision yourselves as the first group of pioneers and explorers – each with the capacity for restoring faith and trust, for ourselves, for each other and for a world gone slightly astray.

You may have a desire to visit areas of special interest onboard – if you are keen on science, health, the arts or any other areas of personal interest, send the desire or request and set the intent to do so. There will be healing chambers for those that have any health concerns or ailments and opportunities to connect with others while exploring the vast realms above. (Others will be able to partake of these on future trips.)

If you wish to partake or become a co-creator of new star technologies or enhance intergalactic communications, step forward, he encouraged us. If you want to be further involved in any way, on board ship or upon your return, make that intention known. Your mission should you choose to accept it, is to spread the joy and glee, be an advocate of intergalactic relations and to be your wonderfully unique multi-dimensional selves. Many of you will be in positions of strategic communication and liaisons upon your return and become opinion leaders in various fields of interest.

Now is the time.

No more hiding behind the bushels and lurking around. Many of you are still hiding your light, not wanting to appear wacky and woo woo, wondering what others may think of you, fearing ridicule. If we buy into that pandemic, AAM told us, it will hold us back. Instead, continue to work on aligning ourselves to the higher vibrations of love in the 5th dimension – vibrations of absolute trust, utmost compassion, unswerving faith and total belief.

Many of us have toiled and extended ourselves for a long time in work for the Light, for very little reward. Many of us have been disillusioned and spiritually beaten down. Your time has come. In the lead up to our exciting journey, our suggestion would be for any doubts and fears to be released. We need to be vigilant of our energies and the energies of those around us.

Energies and intent should veer towards being in the higher vibrations. Our galactic family are not here or coming to ‘save us’ per se, but to share and be a part of our journey and existence. There has been much talk of ‘being rescued’… but accessing and remembering our unique and collective divine blueprints and sacred soul contracts is a path we take via heart-based higher states of consciousness – individually, collectively with the help of other beings, here and in realms beyond Earth, AAM said.

The limited 3D human egoic mind constantly questions, assumes, judges – wanting answers to feed the mind. It has been subjected to limited levels of comprehension, but there is a vast wealth of multi-dimensional aspects that we have yet explored and yet, many of us have begun the journey home, inward and outward, above and beyond.

There is nothing wrong with being discerning and reserving judgment, but there also comes a time, especially for those of us on this journey of ascension, when we need to allow ourselves to surrender to a higher force within our cosmic heart of hearts and trust in our higher multi-dimensional internal guidance system of our higher soul and source code. Many are on this path in varying degrees.

Remember, not everyone will be on the exact same step or rung of the ladder as us, he reminded us. If we see one of our brothers or sisters in front or behind, intuitively, we know to either lend a hand if they need a bit of help or to ask for assistance, should we need it ourselves. This is a time to support each other, but not be weighed down by the denser vibrations of others. We hold the space for love and equanimity, but we do not take on their problems energetically.

We are finally joining the galactic community – a right we have always had, but one that has slightly been encumbered for too long. Consider this to be the beginning of homecoming.

Disclosure does not need to come from our governments. Disclosure starts with us.

There will be joy and jubilation, he said. You will meet new friends from all over and indeed, be re-united with soul / star families. Along with other members of the 2012 Scenario and Bridge Fund team, I look forward to meeting and re-uniting with many of you.

You will return as bright emissaries of a brilliant and brave new world!

Love and Intergalactic Guts n Groove,

Vina

[etm567]

The Maiden Voyage of a Lifetime :ufo: :whoo: :ufo:
By Vina

See previous articles and transcripts for information on this Voyage to the Stars.

.... ....

We are finally joining the galactic community – a right we have always had, but one that has slightly been encumbered for too long. Consider this to be the beginning of homecoming. :bounce: :bounce:

Disclosure does not need to come from our governments. Disclosure starts with us.

There will be joy and jubilation, he said. :amen:

You will meet new friends from all over and indeed, be re-united with soul / star families. :party:

Along with other members of the 2012 Scenario and Bridge Fund team, I look forward to meeting and re-uniting with many of you. :yes4:

You will return as bright emissaries of a brilliant and brave new world! :clap2:

Love and Intergalactic Guts n Groove,

Vina[/QUOTE]I'm ready! .........................

ETM

[cellardoor]

humanity is ready as well!!!:)

[WhiteFeather]

A song for our brave space travelers on Avalon. We wish you success in the stars. ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57nWiRENz04&feature=channel_video_title

[Cjay]

I would love to go and I am still waiting for my invitiation.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3344/3545308334_feeda285f1.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyDVi2Bl4os

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyDVi2Bl4os

[WhiteFeather]

I agree cellardoor our lives are filled with danger but a lil gamble can spice things up...
will you be going on this space journey to the stars as well?

[Craig]

We’ll be returned on Feb. 14 (or sooner if people have other obligations)

like what other obligations can there be that supersede this?

dentist, doctor? is there is one don't go and let someone else go for the full 10 days?

[DreamsInDigital]

I find it interesting how one of the most reliable sources in this whole thread, OnyxKnight's posts just seemingly got completely ignored in this. Specially when he provided some important and solid information.

[DarMar]

hmm it didnt even started and yet there is limits ... 100 people?
Nice concept, browsing the web, reserving ticket for mothership and 10 days of joy!

send us some postcards

[gooty64]

Thank you for that Craig. I am really laughing now. I was thinking the same exact thing but, I was trying to behave about that-so THANK YOU!

"Hey quick ET captain guy, can you swing back to earth for my Jazzercise class?"


We’ll be returned on Feb. 14 (or sooner if people have other obligations)

like what other obligations can there be that supersede this?

dentist, doctor? is there is one don't go and let someone else go for the full 10 days?

[NeverMind]

I plan to bring back technology as irrefutable proof. Plus many pictures and Vids to delight the eyes.
Oh, who cares about that! Bring me a perfume - whatever Mrs. Grener is using would be fine.
Their duty-free shop must be awesome.

:)

[Andreash94]

can i join the trip too?:wizard:

[gripreaper]

So, how do you get an invitation? Is there an itinerary, like swing by the Pleiades and Orion, go look at some Draconian's, visit the councils, or stop by the central sun? What are the accommodations like? Will there be the need for food or will you live on life force only? Will all blockages in your energy fields be removed and the veils of forgetfulness completely lifted? Why only 100 people?

[lelmaleh]

Can you give us a heads up if there is a round two?

[Dennis-G]

Did you see the part where he said there are stores on the ship, but they didn't need to bring money?

Buy now, pay later . . . at interstellar interest rates. :scared:

Just another promotional ploy. Those marketers are everywhere these days! :p

[TelosianEmbrace]

Steve has just posted 'My Stand in this Matter' over at www.the2012scenario.com in which he takes full responsibility for what follows, one way or the other. My heart goes out to him. He's a courageous man. I would wish that either way we continue to find inspiration in Steve's courage and persistence.

[Anchor]

Steve has just posted 'My Stand in this Matter' over at www.the2012scenario.com in which he takes full responsibility for what follows, one way or the other. My heart goes out to him. He's a courageous man. I would wish that either way we continue to find inspiration in Steve's courage and persistence.

At the time I read it, it was as follows:


Our initial request to Grener to allow twenty people to come on board the ships has grown to at least 120 people, all of whom are willing to embark on an adventure with us.

It has also resulted in a tremendous discussion behind the scenes among lightworkers.

That discussion has almost entirely been amicable, but very serious.

I won’t be naming any of the people with whom I’ve had discussions and I’ve told them so. I will not be publishing anything more than the most general of summaries of what has been discussed.

At the same time, any lightworker with whom I’ve had a discussion is welcome to publish anything I’ve said to them.

I’ll summarize their concerns here. I do so believing that this much is allowable and will not identify or harm anyone.

Some people are concerned that our alleged discussions with Grener, Archangel Michael, etc., jeopardize the credibility that all others associated with the Light have labored so long and hard to build.

Some lightworkers point out that no prediction anyone has ever made has come true. Why then would this one?

Others say that they themselves have sources that would have confirmed this matter if it was true. And those sources have by and large not. (Fran Zepeda’s appear to have, but so far that is all.)

It’s time for me to declare myself and my stand in this matter.

If this event does not shape up as I have been told it would by my sources, the responsibility will be entirely mine. All the mistakes made are my mistakes. I will not offer you excuses. I will not try to shift responsibility or mince words. I have initiated these events and I will carry the burden if they fail to come true.

I am staking all on this event – all the credibility I have gained from you for all the work of the past three years, all the support I have garnered, and all the goodwill you have given me.

Several teams of volunteers work this site, moderate the discussion group, and man the Bridge Fund. And they do it because they’ve placed faith in the quality of my own discernment and have chosen to go with the sources that I’ve said I find credible.

I’m very grateful for the faith they have placed in me and I will do all I can to warrant that faith. But others are not responsible if this effort fails. I alone am.

Please don’t get me wrong. I’m not blowing my horn or seeking something from you. I have, except for one or two exceptions, never sought anything from you and I seek nothing now.

I’m simply saying that I’m completely responsible for what follows. No one hoodwinked me, forced me, lied to me, or anything of the sort. I chose this course of action completely. I’m not a victim in any way.

We’ll know by late Saturday evening whether or not this roll of the dice was successful. If unsuccessful, I will retire from this work and carry the responsibility for the failure of this effort with me and with me only.

To the lightworkers who are worried that I am endangering their own credibility, I hear you. I can appreciate your apprehensions. I love you and respect your concerns.

For me personally, this gamble is worth it. I’m not saying it is for you. For me, it is High Noon and the galactics will either show up and offer us tangible proof that all this is true or they won’t.

I’m casting aside fear, which has never served anyone anyways. I have no reputation I choose to protect. I seek only to serve the Light and, if I must depart because this effort fails, I will serve the Light by departing.

With that, I invite you to go forward with me (with us), act with determination but maturely and wisely, and let’s see what comes of our best effort. In four days we’ll know.

There are a number of possibilities that occur to me - and this is not exhaustive - on reading that: he is fed up with channelling and wants to organize a dramatic exit; or he has been got at, and in order to prevent some threat being carried out will act to discredit the GFL; or he genuinely has told the truth, and now his fate hangs in the balance; or even more dramatically he has had a Crisis of faith in the GFL and has engineered this as a put up or shut-up.

Even if he is telling the truth, his channel could have been compromised and this is the STS kill-shot to take out another channeller's credibility.... and not just him, but a whole load of other channelers for the GFL and those that faithfully copy the messages over the internet.

High stakes...

Which ever of these things have happened by assuming total and complete responsibility, he is acting in a very honourable manner; and I tip my hat to that.

I am not saying this to discredit anyone, I am just saying there will always be the doubting Thomas and there will never be cast iron proof, until we have got the point ourselves were if they did show up, it would be like: "Whatever, Hi ET, want a sandwich?"

Obviously it will be great if the space-bikes come and everyone gets to go, and then come back, especially the Avalonians who have requested places; to report back first hand.

Even if it does go to plan, those who return will still face derision, accusations of being part of a mass psi-op. There will be all sorts of efforts to discredit what you may have assumed to be a slam-dunk proof of the GFL or otherwise. You will face imposters, shills and charlatans.

I do hope that everyone is going into this one with their eyes open and neutral expectations - because if you are not, then you may miss some vital details, and face unexpected outcomes no matter if the ride is on, or otherwise.

John..

[WHOMADEGOD]

My boss says he wont give me the time off...must be a freemason!

[Anchor]

My boss says he wont give me the time off...must be a freemason!

Did you tell him why you needed it :)

[etm567]

There are a number of possibilities that occur to me - and this is not exhaustive - on reading that: he is fed up with channelling and wants to organize a dramatic exit; or he has been got at, and in order to prevent some threat being carried out will act to discredit the GFL; or he genuinely has told the truth, and now his fate hangs in the balance; or even more dramatically he has had a Crisis of faith in the GFL and has engineered this as a put up or shut-up.

Even if he is telling the truth, his channel could have been compromised and this is the STS kill-shot to take out another channeller's credibility.... and not just him, but a whole load of other channelers for the GFL and those that faithfully copy the messages over the internet.

High stakes...

You raise some excellent points. But I'm pretty sure that Steve Beckow doesn't "pretend." He's absolutely up front and transparent. He means precisely what he says. He has accepted channeled information for a long time, and is pretty fussy about which channels he accepts. Of course, his channel could become corrupted precisely as any of them can. But he is willing to stick his neck out on this subject.

The information that has been coming in on disclosure has seemed to be saying that we need to do a bit more on our end. So Steve found a way to make that a real possibility at least. It might work.

Obviously the mainstream media very likely won't pay much attention, but this should be good enough to get some attention from the alternative media, and it should be good enough to convince some naysayer types.

By the way, Grener did say (or was it Michael?) that they would invite some opinion-shaper types, and some naysayers. Who those are, we do not know. Or maybe Steve does know by now, but I have no idea.

Personally I have an idea or two for our return to get the message out a little bit. I also think non-US media might be more receptive. Or maybe I should say non-G8 media? Still, that's a lot of people! The BRIC countries, at any rate, and I would guess Japan and Russia. Sub-Saharan African media might be quite receptive.

Well, we'll soon see, won't we?

ETM

[meat suit]

thank you Anchor, thats a great post......(no matter if the ride is on, or otherwise. John..)

there is another possible scenario for this whole show, which has occurred to me before as a way to make sense of all the years of channelings.
and that is: maybe all these promised events are to create a critical mass of 'ready for contact' people on the planet. look at the amount of views and comments on this thread in the short time and look there are 3 or more Avalonians with tickets that they were being quiet about before....
if this 'trip' is another 'soft nudging' the collective of earths people towards contact then I assume the initiators will be pleased with the general excitement in the community.

as a real disclosure approach, this 'trip' would be the best way to proceed, much better than 'landings' imagine 100 guys with video and gadgets come back in a week....there would be no way for the mainstream media to ignore this....

I am happy to be part of the critical mass......

[Eric J (Viking)]

thank you Anchor, thats a great post......(no matter if the ride is on, or otherwise. John..)

there is another possible scenario for this whole show, which has occurred to me before as a way to make sense of all the years of channelings.
and that is: maybe all these promised events are to create a critical mass of 'ready for contact' people on the planet. look at the amount of views and comments on this thread in the short time and look there are 3 or more Avalonians with tickets that they were being quiet about before....
if this 'trip' is another 'soft nudging' the collective of earths people towards contact then I assume the initiators will be pleased with the general excitement in the community.

as a real disclosure approach, this 'trip' would be the best way to proceed, much better than 'landings' imagine 100 guys with video and gadgets come back in a week....there would be no way for the mainstream media to ignore this....

I am happy to be part of the critical mass......

Hi Meat

Yes I agree excellent post Anchor.. and also agree with the critical mass scenario ...if this doesn't manifest, it's ok... this idea is within peoples minds and the consciousness will spread further...more and more people want this to happen...

If this doesn't happen now it will happen very soon.

I sincerely wish this to happen, it would be great to have feedback here with all the stories from Avalonians ... take those thoughts to where you want to go folks.

viking

[cellardoor]

Does anyone have any questions or requests that they would like me to put to the Federation if I do end up going? I'll gladly write them down and take them with me, to report back later. I was thinking it would be a good Idea to set up a skype interview with a crew member whilst I'm there, If any Mods see this post, and I end up going, please could we arrange something, I will be reporting from the ship so this would be possible. Perhaps if bill did the interview this could go major viral. Any other Ideas are welcome.

[joedjemal]

Does anyone have any questions or requests that they would like me to put to the Federation if I do end up going? I'll gladly write them down and take them with me, to report back later. I was thinking it would be a good Idea to set up a skype interview with a crew member whilst I'm there, If any Mods see this post, and I end up going, please could we arrange something, I will be reporting from the ship so this would be possible. Perhaps if bill did the interview this could go major viral. Any other Ideas are welcome.

If it happens please ask how we can avoid mass famine as the current systems fail. How do we get round the fact that the power crazed are blocking any meaningful work on this? Also ask if we could have access to whatever they use as an internet. Is some sort of translation system possible?

[Anchor]

I sincerely wish this to happen, it would be great to have feedback here with all the stories from Avalonians ... take those thoughts to where you want to go folks.

I actually hope the mainstream doesn't take note of this until afterwards. If the ride is on, then I think a few of the usual challenges to the MSM reporting the truth will happen. However, the second and the third "rides" with increasing numbers should fix that.

There is a point to be taken here, and I will take it.

I am going to refrain from contemplating/visualising any of the negative scenarios from this point forward until after the stated leaving date (which is the 5th Feb 2012 for me in Australia).

Not long to wait.

PS: Can any Avalonians please state if they

1) Applied
2) Got a confirmation ( boarding pass ;) )

[Billy]

Can i stowaway in your suitcase. This is brilliant. I love it. I do know it is possible, but whether it happens only (time) 2 weeks will tell.

I will imagine it happening, that always helps.

peace

Well, I plan on travelling light so, if you can fit in a rucksack then by all means.:)

If you have room for a wee piece of clear quartz crystal, then i will be there. but only if you can fit the crystal in your rucksack. :yes4:

How about I bring you back some crystal technology instead? Lol[COLOR="red"]



Yes please bring back a piece of off world technology if you can.

I have great admiration for Steve for putting himself way out on a limb and willing to take all the responsibilty and redicule If yet again, Our galactic family do not turn up.

But as i said in the earlier post, I know this happening is possible, It has happened in our distant past on a one to one to many of our ancestors. And it has to just be a matter of time before some have the great privilage for it to happen again. Hopefully that time is in a few days.

I thiink the only way we can assist in manifesting this great happening is for as many as possible to give permission from a consciousness level.

All the best to the galactic travellers. Here on Avalon and those we do not as yet know.

peace

[cellardoor]

Does anyone have any questions or requests that they would like me to put to the Federation if I do end up going? I'll gladly write them down and take them with me, to report back later. I was thinking it would be a good Idea to set up a skype interview with a crew member whilst I'm there, If any Mods see this post, and I end up going, please could we arrange something, I will be reporting from the ship so this would be possible. Perhaps if bill did the interview this could go major viral. Any other Ideas are welcome.

If it happens please ask how we can avoid mass famine as the current systems fail. How do we get round the fact that the power crazed are blocking any meaningful work on this? Also ask if we could have access to whatever they use as an internet. Is some sort of translation system possible?

It'd be my pleasure. I know they have replicators that would sort out food shortage in a second, perhaps I could bring one back and put it to good use. I'm not sure if they use conscious interface AI so perhaps this technology is our next step up, one thing i do intend to do is document everything, and hopefully do a bit of PR for the GF. So we can make an informed choice whether or not we wish to accept these technologies to help with our situation. They will not give unless we agree you see.

[cellardoor]

Can i stowaway in your suitcase. This is brilliant. I love it. I do know it is possible, but whether it happens only (time) 2 weeks will tell.

I will imagine it happening, that always helps.

peace

Well, I plan on travelling light so, if you can fit in a rucksack then by all means.:)

If you have room for a wee piece of clear quartz crystal, then i will be there. but only if you can fit the crystal in your rucksack. :yes4:

How about I bring you back some crystal technology instead? Lol[COLOR="red"]



Yes please bring back a piece of off world technology if you can.

I have great admiration for Steve for putting himself way out on a limb and willing to take all the responsibilty and redicule If yet again, Our galactic family do not turn up.

But as i said in the earlier post, I know this happening is possible, It has happened in our distant past on a one to one to many of our ancestors. And it has to just be a matter of time before some have the great privilage for it to happen again. Hopefully that time is in a few days.

I thiink the only way we can assist in manifesting this great happening is for as many as possible to give permission from a consciousness level.

All the best to the galactic travellers. Here on Avalon and those we do not as yet know.

peace


Mass conscious permission is essential in my opinion you're spot on! The last thing we need is for this to turn out to be a fearful event.

[seantimberwolf]

I saw the words ARCH ANGEL MICHEAL, and stopped reading and came back to earth.
Did i miss anything? :alien:

I saw a De'Lorien the other day, does not mean i want to drive it a 88MPH!

SeanTimberwolf

[cellardoor]

I saw the words ARCH ANGEL MICHEAL, and stopped reading and came back to earth.
Did i miss anything? :alien:

I saw a De'Lorien the other day, does not mean i want to drive it a 88MPH!

SeanTimberwolf

Yes this is all based on channelled material, I wouldn't want anyone to think otherwise;)

[OnyxKnight]

Smart move

[cellardoor]

Smart move

I'm sorry apparently I've missed a post of importance, that you might have some info to add. Please could you direct me to it. Thank you.

[seantimberwolf]

Smart move

I'm sorry apparently I've missed a post of importance, that you might have some info to add. Please could you direct me to it. Thank you.

Sounds like its mean't in general terms, in the sense that the whole thing is a bit "tin foil hat"
Sean

[Eric J (Viking)]

I sincerely wish this to happen, it would be great to have feedback here with all the stories from Avalonians ... take those thoughts to where you want to go folks.

I actually hope the mainstream doesn't take note of this until afterwards. If the ride is on, then I think a few of the usual challenges to the MSM reporting the truth will happen. However, the second and the third "rides" with increasing numbers should fix that.

There is a point to be taken here, and I will take it.

I am going to refrain from contemplating/visualising any of the negative scenarios from this point forward until after the stated leaving date (which is the 5th Feb 2012 for me in Australia).

Not long to wait.

PS: Can any Avalonians please state if they

1) Applied
2) Got a confirmation ( boarding pass ;) )

Hi Anchor...yes I applied ...haven't heard anything as yet. I think I jumped on the bandwagon a little too late...but given the oppurtunity I would not hesitate...

Just one thing to all those who are the lucky ones...if this manifests...ask and embed these thoughts and questions within your mindset...

"are you for the good and best interest of mankind and are you from the 'light', if you are not I command you to leave my space and body NOW" if they are from the 'light' you'll know. Cosmic law will be in effect.

viking

[778 neighbour of some guy]

MULTIPASS TO FLOXTON PARADISE:target:

13385

YEAH SURE:wacko:

[cellardoor]

Smart move

I'm sorry apparently I've missed a post of importance, that you might have some info to add. Please could you direct me to it. Thank you.

Sounds like its mean't in general terms, in the sense that the whole thing is a bit "tin foil hat"
Sean

No I'm sure someone mentioned a specific post by Onxy, never mind. But yes tin hat exactly. But I've always taken the position that channelled material is no more or less reliable than whistleblower testimony, especially black ops. It's all speculation, I'm just following my heart. I'm mean even David Icke uses mediums, and has admitted hearing beings, same for Ben Fulford, he hears his dead mason grandfarther. So each to his own I say. It's all about choice, freewill in 3d is a state of confusion.

[NewFounderHome]

Hay people! I was a bit unsure if I should say this here or not, so please be gentile.
I've got a golden ticket.
I'm just as in the dark as anyone else on this one, but all I can say is that I have a deep love and respect for Steve, and I'm just hope to God this manifests.

Congratulation.

I hope it does manifest for you. I wish this is true!!! It would be good for all.

[Billy]

a bit of excitement at Steve Beckows site...

" Above a hundred people will be leaving Saturday, Feb. 4, 2012, to board the Neptune, the mothership of Grener of Ashira, from Neptune, the President of the Intergalactic Council, for a 10-day tour of the fleet and a trip to another planet. We’ll be returned on Feb. 14 (or sooner if people have other obligations)."

http://the2012scenario.com/2012/01/bring-your-toothbrush-important-communications-for-invitees/#more-93245

The extraterrestrials named their craft with a human-derived name for our Roman god of the Seas? Right. Pard my skepticism on this one.

There is also no intelligent life of space-faring level on Neptune.

I'll make sure I have my popcorn on February the 4th to watch the backlash they get from making such tickling statements in times like these.

I think this is the post that was mentioned

[cellardoor]

a bit of excitement at Steve Beckows site...

" Above a hundred people will be leaving Saturday, Feb. 4, 2012, to board the Neptune, the mothership of Grener of Ashira, from Neptune, the President of the Intergalactic Council, for a 10-day tour of the fleet and a trip to another planet. We’ll be returned on Feb. 14 (or sooner if people have other obligations)."

http://the2012scenario.com/2012/01/bring-your-toothbrush-important-communications-for-invitees/#more-93245

The extraterrestrials named their craft with a human-derived name for our Roman god of the Seas? Right. Pard my skepticism on this one.

There is also no intelligent life of space-faring level on Neptune.

I'll make sure I have my popcorn on February the 4th to watch the backlash they get from making such tickling statements in times like these.

I think this is the post that was mentioned

Brilliant! thanks I'd be glad to answer that. Anyone who has looked at the ancient aliens theory would entertain the possibility that the Greek gods we're in fact E.T's and that these ET's may have given then knowledge about the solar system and perhaps even given the planets names. Also Grener stated that there was once a race living on Neptune before the great war. His ship is called Neptune. Mock all you like this is still within the realm of plausibility.

[blufire]

cellardoor, you say you are just as in the dark as anyone else . . . do you truly not see how illogical and dangerous this is? You are involved in something of this magnitude and you haven’t demanded specifics or at the very least a clear understanding?

Love and compassion does not mean you become a feather weight and meek and hand over your responsibility and accountability for yourself and those around you.

I have red flags at full mast and waving vigorously

There are those of us who have had personal contact and OnyxKnight is the most notable on PA . . . . read his thread

This is dangerous and damaging on so many levels and especially to those who are legitimate contactees

I guess I should include etm567, Ria

And so when this does not happen how are we here on PA going to react? Just laugh it off as another hoax or do we take it to task and make a stand? What is our responsibility and accountability for those in our community who are legitimate? Do we simply stand aside and let them get swept away with the rest of the hoaxers?

Those of you who have a ‘ticket’ what are you going to do or say when this doesn’t come to pass? You are involved now and accountable so I feel you should ‘man-up’ to your now personal responsibility to the rest of this community.



Hay people! I was a bit unsure if I should say this here or not, so please be gentile.
I've got a golden ticket.
I'm just as in the dark as anyone else on this one, but all I can say is that I have a deep love and respect for Steve, and I'm just hope to God this manifests.

[NewFounderHome]

a bit of excitement at Steve Beckows site...

" Above a hundred people will be leaving Saturday, Feb. 4, 2012, to board the Neptune, the mothership of Grener of Ashira, from Neptune, the President of the Intergalactic Council, for a 10-day tour of the fleet and a trip to another planet. We’ll be returned on Feb. 14 (or sooner if people have other obligations)."

http://the2012scenario.com/2012/01/bring-your-toothbrush-important-communications-for-invitees/#more-93245

The extraterrestrials named their craft with a human-derived name for our Roman god of the Seas? Right. Pard my skepticism on this one.

There is also no intelligent life of space-faring level on Neptune.

I'll make sure I have my popcorn on February the 4th to watch the backlash they get from making such tickling statements in times like these.

Hi OnyxKnight, can you elaborate on your post.

Thanks.

[cellardoor]

cellardoor, you say you are just as in the dark as anyone else . . . do you truly not see how illogical and dangerous this is? You are involved in something of this magnitude and you haven’t demanded specifics or at the very least a clear understanding?

Love and compassion does not mean you become a feather weight and meek and hand over your responsibility and accountability for yourself and those around you.

I have red flags at full mast and waving vigorously

There are those of us who have had personal contact and OnyxKnight is the most notable on PA . . . . read his thread

This is dangerous and damaging on so many levels and especially to those who are legitimate contactees

I guess I should include etm567, Ria, Anchor(?)

And so when this does not happen how are we here on PA going to react? Just laugh it off as another hoax or do we take it to task and make a stand? What is our responsibility and accountability for those in our community who are legitimate? Do we simply stand aside and let them get swept away with the rest of the hoaxers?

Those of you who have a ‘ticket’ what are you going to do or say when this doesn’t come to pass? You are involved now and accountable so I feel you should ‘man-up’ to your now personal responsibility to the rest of this community.



Hay people! I was a bit unsure if I should say this here or not, so please be gentile.
I've got a golden ticket.
I'm just as in the dark as anyone else on this one, but all I can say is that I have a deep love and respect for Steve, and I'm just hope to God this manifests.

Like I say, I'm just following my heart, I do not expect anyone to take what I say as truth, I just ask for an equal say and if that means sticking my neck out so be it. I'll take all thats coming to me if this doesn't happen but as I've stated many times I do not know my self if it will. What I'm attempting to do here is set a platform for if it is true. I welcome any criticism and fully expect it. I just ask to be treated as a normal person going on faith, as we all do to some extent, and as a person with feelings. I'm only speaking for myself. If you are a light worker and do not agree with this by all means say, many many have. I do not blame anyone for dissociating themselves with this. But I have made my choice, and I intend to stick to it.

Much love

[Anchor]

I guess I should include etm567, Ria, Anchor(?)

I am not precisely sure what you meant there, but to clarify, I am not a "contactee". I am however a wanderer and fully accepting of my ET origins. My mission here has not included the need to contact anyone from my group, not in a way that I recall anyway.

John..

[blufire]

John, I think I got you mixed up with Viking (??) . . . . I am not clear on just who is involved with this other than cellardoor

My apologies . . . .





I guess I should include etm567, Ria, Anchor(?)

I am not precisely sure what you meant there, but to clarify, I am not a "contactee". I am however a wanderer and fully accepting of my ET origins. My mission here has not included the need to contact anyone from my group, not in a way that I recall anyway.

John..

[Billy]

This is dangerous and damaging on so many levels and especially to those who are legitimate contactees


And so when this does not happen how are we here on PA going to react? Just laugh it off as another hoax or do we take it to task and make a stand? What is our responsibility and accountability for those in our community who are legitimate? Do we simply stand aside and let them get swept away with the rest of the hoaxers?

Those of you who have a ‘ticket’ what are you going to do or say when this doesn’t come to pass? You are involved now and accountable so I feel you should ‘man-up’ to your now personal responsibility to the rest of this community.


Why should contactees feel threatened by this adventure?

If the happening does not happen i would expect fellow PA members to react with understanding, respect and compassion. or is that asking too much.

I think cellerdoor is being responsible as far as one can before the event, By announcing on an open forum that He/she may be partaking on this journey.

Why feel threatened bluefire.

EDIT: just looked at cellerdoors profile and i see he is a he.

[joedjemal]

Ok, let's assume that this is the real thing (big assumption but regardless) and they're willing to share technology and have replicators that can use commonly availble materials as feedstocks and that they have some sort of portable free energy device. One energy device and a replicator capable of replicating itself and the power device (and presumably having an onboard library of other things like food and clothing) would solve all the most immediate problems of the world pretty quickly depending on the time needed and the materials needed to achive replication. If it were me, that is what I'd ask for (first, my next request would be my own ship so I could grab some friends and go and look for myself)


Edit: of course if it's yet more bulls*it then that's pretty much the end of all this federation stuff

[RMorgan]

cellardoor, you say you are just as in the dark as anyone else . . . do you truly not see how illogical and dangerous this is? You are involved in something of this magnitude and you haven’t demanded specifics or at the very least a clear understanding?

Love and compassion does not mean you become a feather weight and meek and hand over your responsibility and accountability for yourself and those around you.

I have red flags at full mast and waving vigorously

There are those of us who have had personal contact and OnyxKnight is the most notable on PA . . . . read his thread

This is dangerous and damaging on so many levels and especially to those who are legitimate contactees

I guess I should include etm567, Ria, Anchor(?)

And so when this does not happen how are we here on PA going to react? Just laugh it off as another hoax or do we take it to task and make a stand? What is our responsibility and accountability for those in our community who are legitimate? Do we simply stand aside and let them get swept away with the rest of the hoaxers?

Those of you who have a ‘ticket’ what are you going to do or say when this doesn’t come to pass? You are involved now and accountable so I feel you should ‘man-up’ to your now personal responsibility to the rest of this community.



Hay people! I was a bit unsure if I should say this here or not, so please be gentile.
I've got a golden ticket.
I'm just as in the dark as anyone else on this one, but all I can say is that I have a deep love and respect for Steve, and I'm just hope to God this manifests.

Hi sister,

Well, who am I to say if this is a hoax or not. If we go with the probabilities, I can say that there is at least a 90% chance that it´s a hoax or scam, however, anything is possible.

Anyway, this is how it works for me. Whenever I hear someone making bold claims and promises about something like this, I stay neutral. However, if this claim or promise doesn´t happen, this person goes straight down to my charlatan list, which is growing bigger and bigger every day.

Unfortunately, not all persons are sound enough to do that, and keep believing such persons even if they are proved to be liars several times. What can I do about it? I guess I can´t do nothing.

I´m not referring to this alien trip specifically, because I really don´t know if it will happen or not (probably not). If this trip doesn´t happen, I´m not even interested in hearing Beckow´s excuses. He will go instantly to my blacklist. That´s what happen in the reputation business. That´s what happens in every kind of business in the world. Once anyone loses his good reputation, it´s over. It shouldn´t be different in this alternative media/info/business scenario.

Anyway, I warn everyone involved with this case to be very careful. It´s fine to trust a stranger when you´re behind a computer, but when things become physical, it can be dangerous. I don´t even need to say how many similar "trips" went wrong, some of them went deadly wrong. So, please, don´t enter in a car if you´re asked to do so, don´t take any medicine or liquid or food before this trip if you´re asked to do so, don´t give any money if you´re asked to do so. To resume, please, don´t do nothing stupid if you´re asked to do so.

If this trip comes to happen, I´ll be very happy for you. If it doesn´t, I´ll make sure to make everyone remember it whenever a new post about Beckow appears on this website. I wont allow anyone to forget that.

Once again, I must say I´m very suspicious about this case. I can´t see any reason for such a BIG thing being made public, if it could be kept in secret and revealed just to the people involved. It seems someone might be using people as bait for something, or at least to draw attention.

Cheers and good luck,

Raf.

[taizen]

Don't forget to bring a towel. :)

[GaelVictor]

Anyone want to play this game?

I'm going on a holliday and i take with me: a toothbrush!

[Billy]

Ok, let's assume that this is the real thing (big assumption but regardless) and they're willing to share technology and have replicators that can use commonly availble materials as feedstocks and that they have some sort of portable free energy device. One energy device and a replicator capable of replicating itself and the power device (and presumably having an onboard library of other things like food and clothing) would solve all the most immediate problems of the world pretty quickly depending on the time needed and the materials needed to achive replication. If it were me, that is what I'd ask for (first, my next request would be my own ship so I could grab some friends and go and look for myself)

I think i would settle for one of the levitating scooter vehicles they have to scoot around the skys here on earth, just dreaming :p
we may need driving lessons before we venture on to spaceships.

[cellardoor]

Ok, let's assume that this is the real thing (big assumption but regardless) and they're willing to share technology and have replicators that can use commonly availble materials as feedstocks and that they have some sort of portable free energy device. One energy device and a replicator capable of replicating itself and the power device (and presumably having an onboard library of other things like food and clothing) would solve all the most immediate problems of the world pretty quickly depending on the time needed and the materials needed to achive replication. If it were me, that is what I'd ask for (first, my next request would be my own ship so I could grab some friends and go and look for myself)

It would mean a complete return of sovereignty for every individual on the planet, no strings attached. Worth a try don't you think? It's fun to think about at least. Terence Mckenna talked about the merging of matter and mind as an inevitable step in evolution I don't think he was far from the truth:) There will be a point of singularity where technology and consciousness merge. All our inventions are patented, we have unlimited potential now. But that tech will never see the light of day unless we do something drastic, and I'm tired of sitting on the sidelines. Waiting for that to happen.

[Eric J (Viking)]

John, I think I got you mixed up with Viking (??) . . . . I am not clear on just who is involved with this other than cellardoor

My apologies . . . .





I guess I should include etm567, Ria, Anchor(?)

I am not precisely sure what you meant there, but to clarify, I am not a "contactee". I am however a wanderer and fully accepting of my ET origins. My mission here has not included the need to contact anyone from my group, not in a way that I recall anyway.

John..

Hi Blufire ...

No, not me...the only time I ever get to board these ships is perhaps in my sleep time!! buggers aren't they!!

I spoke to Ria this mornng and she has not recieved a 'ticket' so far ... I think there was etm and another here on Avalon as well as Celadoor...perhaps they can confirm...

viking

[cellardoor]

cellardoor, you say you are just as in the dark as anyone else . . . do you truly not see how illogical and dangerous this is? You are involved in something of this magnitude and you haven’t demanded specifics or at the very least a clear understanding?

Love and compassion does not mean you become a feather weight and meek and hand over your responsibility and accountability for yourself and those around you.

I have red flags at full mast and waving vigorously

There are those of us who have had personal contact and OnyxKnight is the most notable on PA . . . . read his thread

This is dangerous and damaging on so many levels and especially to those who are legitimate contactees

I guess I should include etm567, Ria, Anchor(?)

And so when this does not happen how are we here on PA going to react? Just laugh it off as another hoax or do we take it to task and make a stand? What is our responsibility and accountability for those in our community who are legitimate? Do we simply stand aside and let them get swept away with the rest of the hoaxers?

Those of you who have a ‘ticket’ what are you going to do or say when this doesn’t come to pass? You are involved now and accountable so I feel you should ‘man-up’ to your now personal responsibility to the rest of this community.



Hay people! I was a bit unsure if I should say this here or not, so please be gentile.
I've got a golden ticket.
I'm just as in the dark as anyone else on this one, but all I can say is that I have a deep love and respect for Steve, and I'm just hope to God this manifests.

Hi sister,

Well, who am I to say if this is a hoax or not. If we go with the probabilities, I can say that there is at least a 90% chance that it´s a hoax or scam, however, anything is possible.

Anyway, this is how it works for me. Whenever I hear someone making bold claims and promises about something like this, I stay neutral. However, if this claim or promise doesn´t happen, this person goes straight down to my charlatan list, which is growing bigger and bigger every day.

Unfortunately, not all persons are sound enough to do that, and keep believing such persons even if they are proved to be liars several times. What can I do about it? I guess I can´t do nothing.

I´m not referring to this alien trip specifically, because I really don´t know if it will happen or not (probably not). If this trip doesn´t happen, I´m not even interested in hearing Beckow´s excuses. He will go instantly to my blacklist. That´s what happen in the reputation business. That´s what happens in every kind of business in the world. Once anyone loses his good reputation, it´s over. It shouldn´t be different in this alternative media/info/business scenario.

Anyway, I warn everyone involved with this case to be very careful. It´s fine to trust a stranger when you´re behind a computer, but when things become physical, it can be dangerous. I don´t even need to say how many similar "trips" went wrong, some of them went deadly wrong. So, please, don´t enter in a car if you´re asked to do so, don´t take any medicine or liquid or food before this trip if you´re asked to do so, don´t give any money if you´re asked to do so. To resume, please, don´t do nothing stupid if you´re asked to do so.

If this trip comes to happen, I´ll be very happy for you. If it doesn´t, I´ll make sure to make everyone remember it whenever a new post about Beckow appears on this website. I wont allow anyone to forget that.

Once again, I must say I´m very suspicious about this case. I can´t see any reason for such a BIG thing being made public, if it could be kept in secret and revealed just to the people involved. It seems someone might be using people as bait for something, or at least to draw attention.

Cheers and good luck,

Raf.

Many thanks and blessings:) I promise I'll keep my discernment cap on. But I have no fear at this present time. All taken into account though;)

[EnergyGardener]

CellarDoor,


Does anyone have any questions or requests that they would like me to put to the Federation if I do end up going? I'll gladly write them down and take them with me, to report back later. I was thinking it would be a good Idea to set up a skype interview with a crew member whilst I'm there, If any Mods see this post, and I end up going, please could we arrange something, I will be reporting from the ship so this would be possible. Perhaps if bill did the interview this could go major viral. Any other Ideas are welcome.

1. Please request multiple 10-day trips for Avalonians, our family members and pets. This would be helpful for many important reasons, including ET and Lightfamily synchronization. The second to last week of March works for me.
2. Please ascertain the requirement of Earth Safe Zones, and/or if they will provide removal for ascended (and otherwise selected) humans?

Please provide yourselves (as we shall ourselves) for the events that follow per Anchor's points:


Obviously it will be great if the space-bikes come and everyone gets to go, and then come back, especially the Avalonians who have requested places; to report back first hand.

Even if it does go to plan, those who return will still face derision, accusations of being part of a mass psi-op. There will be all sorts of efforts to discredit what you may have assumed to be a slam-dunk proof of the GFL or otherwise. You will face imposters, shills and charlatans.

I do hope that everyone is going into this one with their eyes open and neutral expectations - because if you are not, then you may miss some vital details, and face unexpected outcomes no matter if the ride is on, or otherwise.

John..

CellarDoor, Ria and ETM, Congratulations again, Positive Will, Discernment (gut check at the Space-bike pickup) and Godspeed.


EnergyGardener

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Don't forget to bring a towel. :)


13386

Good one;)

[seantimberwolf]

Don't forget to bring a towel. :)


13386

Good one;)

OK!! is that a real t-shirt.
I may have to purchase this. AMAZING lol

[cellardoor]

CellarDoor,


Does anyone have any questions or requests that they would like me to put to the Federation if I do end up going? I'll gladly write them down and take them with me, to report back later. I was thinking it would be a good Idea to set up a skype interview with a crew member whilst I'm there, If any Mods see this post, and I end up going, please could we arrange something, I will be reporting from the ship so this would be possible. Perhaps if bill did the interview this could go major viral. Any other Ideas are welcome.

1. Please request multiple 10-day trips for Avalonians, our family members and pets. This would be helpful for many important reasons, including ET and Lightfamily synchronization. The second to last week of March works for me.
2. Please ascertain the requirement of Earth Safe Zones, and/or if they will provide removal for ascended (and otherwise selected) humans?

Please provide yourselves (as we shall ourselves) for the events that follow per Anchor's points:


Obviously it will be great if the space-bikes come and everyone gets to go, and then come back, especially the Avalonians who have requested places; to report back first hand.

Even if it does go to plan, those who return will still face derision, accusations of being part of a mass psi-op. There will be all sorts of efforts to discredit what you may have assumed to be a slam-dunk proof of the GFL or otherwise. You will face imposters, shills and charlatans.

I do hope that everyone is going into this one with their eyes open and neutral expectations - because if you are not, then you may miss some vital details, and face unexpected outcomes no matter if the ride is on, or otherwise.

John..

CellarDoor, Ria and ETM, Congratulations again, Positive Will, Discernment (gut check at the Space-bike pickup) and Godspeed.


EnergyGardener

Duly Noted energy Gardner thanks

[WhiteFeather]

But if this does in fact occur, would be startling to say the least. Reverberations throughout the Universe this will be.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Cellar, i have serious respect for your candor and openess of mind, and truly hope for you will have the holiday of your life, make sure to bring a camera on your ride.

When all of this DOES come to pass by some means, you'll have something to show for it, until then, stay cool and wait and see what happens, i am sure nobody here wants to rain on your parade but just wishes you good judgement, as do i.

Until then, may the Schwartz be with you.

[gooty64]

Here's to the "Galactic 120" .

Bon Voyage!

We need some help, down here on Earth...

-NlT-ELVWk0

[Virma De Ris]

...and here I thought that V was cancelled. It's also good to know that they're be back for Valentine's Day as it would be disastrous to miss such an important date... Oh wait it is an important date as it is my birthday after all. :p

[cellardoor]

I can see kimberley on the thread:) What do you make of this? Did David take Steve up on the offer? Lol

[Ammit]

Not that I want to dissmiss this as farcical but, I hope if true you enter aboard this starship via a door and not a tube that drops you into a machine to mangle you and draw off all your bodily fluids to supply the starship crew with sustenance for their long voyage.

Will be putting in plenty of PA time during those days you are away..........

[etm567]

I sincerely wish this to happen, it would be great to have feedback here with all the stories from Avalonians ... take those thoughts to where you want to go folks.

I actually hope the mainstream doesn't take note of this until afterwards. If the ride is on, then I think a few of the usual challenges to the MSM reporting the truth will happen. However, the second and the third "rides" with increasing numbers should fix that.

There is a point to be taken here, and I will take it.

I am going to refrain from contemplating/visualising any of the negative scenarios from this point forward until after the stated leaving date (which is the 5th Feb 2012 for me in Australia).

Not long to wait.

PS: Can any Avalonians please state if they

1) Applied
2) Got a confirmation ( boarding pass ;) )

I don't know if you applied, or if you are going, but the departure date in Australia is the 4th. At least, it is for anyone in Australia who is going. This was mentioned specifically. And yes, the 4th in Australia will be a day before it is here, or something like that....

ETM

[cellardoor]

Not that I want to dissmiss this as farcical but, I hope if true you enter aboard this starship via a door and not a tube that drops you into a machine to mangle you and draw off all your bodily fluids to supply the starship crew with sustenance for their long voyage.

Will be putting in plenty of PA time during those days you are away..........

LMAO! I hope not too. Thanks though.

[WhiteFeather]

Here's to the "Galactic 120" .

Bon Voyage!

We need some help, down here on Earth...


-NlT-ELVWk0


Nice video! Kids got talent.

[WhiteFeather]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scBY3cVyeyA&feature=related

[G.Deluca]

i'll believe it when i will see some proof :D but i would be happy to be proven wrong,at least we will have reliable witnesses

[Kimberley]

I can see kimberley on the thread:) What do you make of this? Did David take Steve up on the offer? Lol

Ok ...you beat me to the punch cellardoor :-) I just found this thread an hour ago and was reading the whole thing before commenting.

First off I would be so thrilled if this trip happens. I do not think it is anything to fear or make fun of. I know all is possible :-) And I will have no ill will toward anyone if it does not. As a matter of fact I think if it does not happen and Steve thinks he needs to bow out because of that is sad... Does anyone remember the Bloosom Goodchild October 14 2008 incident?

Anyway cellardoor David who? Did I miss something?

I want to offer to be a/the communication earth bound contact if any of you are interested. I have all the recording tools both audio & video and we could even do a live audio show at anytime. All those interested please message me your skype and e-mail info so we can stay directly in contact.

I have more to say but need to attend to something...I'LL be back soon...

[crested-duck]

George Kavassalis says beware the channellers! My instincts always tell me not to waste my time with that too. If something good comes from this "trip" scenario, I will change my tune about this subject.

[DreamsInDigital]

George Kavassalis says beware the channellers! My instincts always tell me not to waste my time with that too. If something good comes from this "trip" scenario, I will change my tune about this subject.
I agree. This whole thing concerns me, specially being connected with that AI GFL. I say out of respect for others, I will not post my comments, thoughts on this whole situation.

[taizen]

I would like to reiterate another previous post. If you are asked for papers, signatures, or anything that seems remotely of human requirements, I would NOT go (no matter how tempting). On another thread, it was posted- 'Would you get into the vehicle of a stranger?' Just use common sense. Also, don't forget about the return. What would you do if you saw the MIB waiting for you on your doorstep? Don't take candy from strangers.

Just out of curiosity, what would one bring on a trip like this anyway? What is the driving motivation for going? Are you bringing back proof (remember what happens to proof- many times it is ripped to shreds by debunkers). I personally like the recording devise used by jodi foster in Contact. 18 hours of static for what seemed to be instantaneous time on earth. What would you talk about? What questions do you have?

[cellardoor]

I can see kimberley on the thread:) What do you make of this? Did David take Steve up on the offer? Lol

Ok ...you beat me to the punch cellardoor :-) I just found this thread an hour ago and was reading the whole thing before commenting.

First off I would be so thrilled if this trip happens. I do not think is is anything to fear or make fun of. I knwo all is possible :-) And I will have no ill will toward anyone if it does not. As a matter of fact I think if it does not happen and Steve thinks he needs to bow out because of that is sad... Does anyone remember the Bloosom Goodchild October 14 2008 incident?

Anyway cellardoor David who? Did I miss something?

I want to offer to be a/the communication earth bound contact if any of you are interested. I have all the recording tools both audio & video and we could even do a live audio show at anytime. All those interested please message me your skype and e-mail info so we can stay directly in contact.

I have more to say but need to attend to something...I'LL be back soon...

Earth bound contact I like it! yes if you like. Steve said he would bow down after this if it doesn't happen, so this really could be the end of an era. I do think it's sad because Steve is only trying his best to move things along for the community. I remember blossom well! This is why I was so shocked to her Steve play this hand. I can only assume he has had some kind of personal confirmation in the past from AA michael. Who knows, but he really isn't a fool. He's a cleaver man. Very puzzling. Anyway I meant David Wilcock. I thought for some reason you knew him, am I getting you mixed up? Haven't speant much time on Avalon Lately. Sorry if I did.

Love and Peace

Thanks for the request

Michael

[cellardoor]

I would like to reiterate another previous post. If you are asked for papers, signatures, or anything that seems remotely of human requirements, I would NOT go (no matter how tempting). On another thread, it was posted- 'Would you get into the vehicle of a stranger?' Just use common sense. Also, don't forget about the return. What would you do if you saw the MIB waiting for you on your doorstep? Don't take candy from strangers.

Just out of curiosity, what would one bring on a trip like this anyway? What is the driving motivation for going? Are you bringing back proof (remember what happens to proof- many times it is ripped to shreds by debunkers). I personally like the recording devise used by jodi foster in Contact. 18 hours of static for what seemed to be instantaneous time on earth. What would you talk about? What questions do you have?

Ok, all I can say is that the only thing I have given is my name, no ID as such. As for what to bring, they've said just bring a tooth brush if you wish. Apparently you get clean just walking through the door ways:) Questions would be mainly to clear up all of this Annunaki stuff our history as from the akashic records for a start. Also free energy and how best we can provide the world with it, the names and faces of all top Illuminati members. Knowledge of what happens when we die. That sort of stuff, you know. Open to suggestions by the way.

[blufire]

I’m apologizing up front with what I am about to say . . . .

I’m sorry but this is an absurd farce . . . . If this is to be some sort of ‘First Contact’ then I’m disturbed to say the least in who is being chosen to represent me let alone the human race. Is anyone going with some sort of valid credentials other than being a ‘lightworker’

Those of you who say you have a ticket know little to nothing of what to expect.

Do you have a list of what to pack? How to prepare for intergalactic travel? What to expect? Have you received anything in writing? Or is everything been left completely open ended so there will be no accountability? Post it here on PA if you do . . . .give us something . . . .anything . . . . to substantiate this

Again I ask, when this does not happen what are we here on PA going to do . . . . .anything? I feel it is time to take a stand against this type of thing; it takes away any validity we may have gained or will be able to substantiate in the future.

billyji you said, “If the happening does not happen i would expect fellow PA members to react with understanding, respect and compassion. or is that asking too much”. Yes it is asking too much. Where is the respect, understanding and compassion for those who have and continue to have legitimate personal Contact? This sort of farce is an insult to them and any future true First Contact for ALL of humanity. WE are constantly being asked to acquiesce to this sort of thing and I am saying no more . . . .

[Billy]

Anyway cellardoor David who? Did I miss something?

I want to offer to be a/the communication earth bound contact if any of you are interested. I have all the recording tools both audio & video and we could even do a live audio show at anytime. All those interested please message me your skype and e-mail info so we can stay directly in contact.

I have more to say but need to attend to something...I'LL be back soon...

Great idea Kimberley,

[cellardoor]

I’m apologizing up front with what I am about to say . . . .

I’m sorry but this is an absurd farce . . . . If this is to be some sort of ‘First Contact’ then I’m disturbed to say the least in who is being chosen to represent me let alone the human race. Is anyone going with some sort of valid credentials other than being a ‘lightworker’

Those of you who say you have a ticket know little to nothing of what to expect.

Do you have a list of what to pack? How to prepare for intergalactic travel? What to expect? Have you received anything in writing? Or is everything been left completely open ended so there will be no accountability? Post it here on PA if you do . . . .give us something . . . .anything . . . . to substantiate this

Again I ask, when this does not happen what are we here on PA going to do . . . . .anything? I feel it is time to take a stand against this type of thing; it takes away any validity we may have gained or will be able to substantiate in the future.

billyji you said, “If the happening does not happen i would expect fellow PA members to react with understanding, respect and compassion. or is that asking too much”. Yes it is asking too much. Where is the respect, understanding and compassion for those who have and continue to have legitimate personal Contact? This sort of farce is an insult to them and any future true First Contact for ALL of humanity. WE are constantly being asked to acquiesce to this sort of thing and I am saying no more . . . .

First I cannot claim to be anything else than just a normal person.
Secondly I have literally been thinking about this all of my life. I do know what to expect yes, and I would go further in saying that I am an eternal being and that the death of my physical body will most defiantly not be the end of me. Perhaps that is why light workers are going, we can look past fear. Also I might add that many opinion leaders and sceptics have been invited, and the rest of the places have been given to us so called lightworkers. Although I do not like labels I just use this term for ease of communication here.
Thirdly act how you like. You have every right. If you feel the need to persecute me on Sun if I'm here that is your divine right. But please I would always advise against negativity as you will only be hurting yourself in doing so, for we are one beloved. I have an email but I will refrain from posting it here as the process is not quite completed. I will post if nothing happens.

Peace

[noprophet]

Safe journeys, here's to the hope of the beginning of something big.

No matter how it plays out it is still information.

Good luck to those going.

[Jean-Marie]

This is text from an email from James at the ECETI Ranch

Having already been on a ride and other out of body experiences on the ships this senario is possible yet it is often all about ones spiritual maturity and advancement when it comes to contact and one on one experiences. I guess this Saturday we will find out if this offer by offworlders to take people on board is for real. I have not personally received any validation. I did however see a very large ship in the West last night traveling West at a very low altitide. Tried to film it have not looked at the film yet but it would not show up on the view finder?

[Billy]

Cellardoor if you are privileged to go onboard I have a question that you can ask on my behalf.

Who is or was Yahwey, Full ID please, If this being still exists etc. Many thanks

[Kimberley]

CellarDoor (Michael)

Yes David W is a friend of mine... there are a lot of David's in the world... so was asking for clarification... and I am not aware that he was given an invitation...was he?

I also wanted to add to this discussion that I personally do not have any desire to go off on a trip on a space craft. This is something that I have thought about seriously way before now. 25 years ago I so wanted to be taken off this planet because of all the war and hate and greed and such.... However I now know that I chose to be here now and I remember why I chose to be here and I signed up for hanging in for the long haul.

I also know that we humans each have different roles to play and are on different paths. I advise everyone to follow their own inner guidance and not listen to what others have to say is "good" or "bad" to do or to not do. We are not all in the same place. Yes George K. (also a friend of mine) advises against going into the craft and I respect that and I persoonaly do not want to go onto a craft at this point in time (not untill I had a million % guarenttee that I would be returned that is becase of course on one hand I would love to go) however I have "work" to do here now!

SO I support the decisions of others and if someone feels guided to go onto a ship who am I to advise not to . I do not know what is best for anyone except for me and trust and support others to follow their inner guidance not mine.

SO in the mean time this is a fun scenario to ponder and play with and wait to see what happens.

Much love to us all!!

[blufire]

I make a motion this thread be moved from “General Discussion” into the “Channeled” section with appropriate disclaimer.

After all this is channeled information and event.

Anyone second my motion??

Mod?

[Kimberley]

I make a motion this thread be moved from “General Discussion” into the “Channeled” section with appropriate disclaimer.

After all this is channeled information and event.

Anyone second my motion??

Mod?

I do not agree with this request. I am not channeling, cellardoor is not channeling etc... this is a general topic about an event that is being talked about all over the web.. not just here..

[Billy]

I make a motion this thread be moved from “General Discussion” into the “Channeled” section with appropriate disclaimer.

After all this is channeled information and event.

Anyone second my motion??

Mod?

Information that came from a channeled source about an event that is said to be a real life event. the thread is about the event that is to take place, I do not suppose it matters what threads this one should be on.

I leave that up to the MODS

[lizmac]

Well, it looks like there will either be a lot of new information in a couple of weeks or a lot of disappointed people.


According to the transcript cameras and phones (and dogs) are permitted so we'll see. I like the touch where the guy says if it doesn't happen his mail will be going to the Himalayas.

I'd love it to be real, think of all the information a galactic civilisation would produce.

Won't hold my breath though.

Not cats though, now that is Galactic Discrimination! Mine will have something to miao about that!

[blufire]

Meat suit’s OP is regarding Steve Beckow and his website. Beckow receives channeled information and this ‘trip’ is from a channeled source

This is not your thread or cellardoor’s



I make a motion this thread be moved from “General Discussion” into the “Channeled” section with appropriate disclaimer.

After all this is channeled information and event.

Anyone second my motion??

Mod?

I do not agree with this request. I am not channeling, cellardoor is not channeling etc... this is a general topic about an event that is being talked about all over the web.. not just here..

[Billy]

Meat suit’s OP is regarding Steve Beckow and his website. Beckow receives channeled information and this ‘trip’ is from a channeled source

This is not your thread or cellardoor’s





Anyone second my motion??



I do not agree with this request. I am not channeling, cellardoor is not channeling etc... this is a general topic about an event that is being talked about all over the web.. not just here..

You did ask if anyone seconds your motion Bluefire, no one has, but are we not allowed to say if we do NOT second your motion??? bit one sided

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello,

Please keep a cool head and don't attack each other :). Obviously there are different strong opinions about this.

I will not move this thread as I don't feel strongly it should be in the channeled section.

In my opinion this thread is very funny and should remain here for all to read later on the 5th of February when most likely the tag [HOAX] will be added to the title. Until then, what can I say? Say your good byes and make preparations :p

[noprophet]

You should be careful about projecting your fears onto a thead then attacking it in attempt to dissolve them.

That ish can be handled internally.

[Dennis Leahy]

I make a motion this thread be moved from “General Discussion” into the “Channeled” section with appropriate disclaimer.

After all this is channeled information and event.

Anyone second my motion??

Mod?
I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but until the tractor beam starts lifting folks, this is indeed humans discussing channeled information. The minute any predictions from the channeled information becomes real, then move the thread into "General Discussion."

If a group of 100 people all have an out-of-body experience on Feb 4th, and (without hearing each others story) debrief, and we find out that everyone had the same out-of-body inter-dimensional experience, then I'd say this is either true (but not what we expected) or the black-ops boys have gotten very good at targeting people and implanting experiences.

I sense that cellardoor has a pretty good sense that nothing may happen, and will not be emotionally crushed. I actually think it's pretty brave to even entertain the notion of being among the first jumping onto an alien vessel, voluntarily. I promise not to tease cellardoor or anyone else with a ticket, but on Feb 5th I think it is fair to start a discussion about just exactly why "someone" wants people to believe that aliens are going to solve our problems.

Dennis

[Ilie Pandia]

I've just read the entire thread and noticed that we have a member who is going.

Even though I am pretty sure nothing will happen, I do appreciate cellardoor for stepping forward and taking this risk. It's kinda of a big risk either way :).

Cellardoor, regardless of what happens I think you're in for some "learning" as they say. So I guess you're our "reporter on the field", and you have my support!

[meat suit]

Meat suit’s OP is regarding Steve Beckow and his website. Beckow receives channeled information and this ‘trip’ is from a channeled source

This is not your thread or cellardoor’s



I make a motion this thread be moved from “General Discussion” into the “Channeled” section with appropriate disclaimer.

After all this is channeled information and event.

Anyone second my motion??

Mod?

I do not agree with this request. I am not channeling, cellardoor is not channeling etc... this is a general topic about an event that is being talked about all over the web.. not just here..

guys, this is my first post here!!! I understand that i can only post in 'general' for now. whoever is in charge keeping this place tidy...and tidy it is...please put it where you see fit.

[ljwheat]

I hope the lucky ones can tell us all about the trip and possibly have videos and pictures!

I'm sure all the photo's will be fuzzy and blurrrrrrrrr'd, or Mass hypnosis ploy and told this and that happened, now remember and click wake up. Snap!

[Billy]

Nice to be back on topic, Thank you Ilie,

[OnyxKnight]

Smart move

I'm sorry apparently I've missed a post of importance, that you might have some info to add. Please could you direct me to it. Thank you.

Sounds like its mean't in general terms, in the sense that the whole thing is a bit "tin foil hat"
Sean

I agree that the whole thing sounds too wish wash to be true. At least to me. Maybe I'm wrong. In fact, I hope I'm wrong, because this would mean official first contact on a non-individual basis.

The "Smart Move" post was directed at Sean by the way, commending that he refused to read any further after he saw a few worrying terms often used in the new age disinfo campaigns.


No I'm sure someone mentioned a specific post by Onxy, never mind. But yes tin hat exactly. But I've always taken the position that channelled material is no more or less reliable than whistleblower testimony, especially black ops. It's all speculation, I'm just following my heart. I'm mean even David Icke uses mediums, and has admitted hearing beings, same for Ben Fulford, he hears his dead mason grandfarther. So each to his own I say. It's all about choice, freewill in 3d is a state of confusion.

I'm on the fence with channeling. I have had some experience with it, concerning my sessions with Logos. But I actually met the source of the channelings later - so I guess that helped a lot.

Also lately I've been getting a lot of streams of information so I carry a notebook with me almost all the time so I can have something to write it down and analyze what's been received. It doesn't seem to come from one source, but its all around.

This is why I do hold some trust to channeled material, but I always read it with caution, and filter the information I feel is wrong. That being said, today many claim to be channeling ETs and interdimensional beings, but rarely do any of the information correlate, and focus is usually maintained on religiously dictated choruses focusing on new age wish wash.

I think people need to develop better discerning skills when it comes to channeled material (or whatever type of material they stumble upon really).




Brilliant! thanks I'd be glad to answer that. Anyone who has looked at the ancient aliens theory would entertain the possibility that the Greek gods we're in fact E.T's and that these ET's may have given then knowledge about the solar system and perhaps even given the planets names. Also Grener stated that there was once a race living on Neptune before the great war. His ship is called Neptune. Mock all you like this is still within the realm of plausibility.

I'm not a mocker (although I should have presented my case better than "popcorns + juice" .

I'm just warning people. I think the guy may be well-intentioned, but whoever is his source of information of this (maybe personal extraterrestrial contacts?), that's the shady part. That's where my alarms go nuts.

Few things to consider before taking this seriously - especially those who are "lucky" enough to be offered a ticket, like you:

1 - channeled material (the faint first alarm)

2 - GFL (major alarm - for obvious reasons - bad track record)

3- Archangels (major alarm - for obvious reasons)

4 - Taking select number of people on a trip via tickets, then returning them home (Another major alarm - is this a funfair?)

The word 'Neptune' has no extraterrestrial origin. The Greek equivalent of the god's name on the other hand, may have. Neptune is the name the Romans gave him.

Yes, the ancient astronaut theory, I promote it too. It doesn't really confirm that Neptune is a name given to our planet by extraterrestrials.

I never said there is no life on Neptune by the way. I just said space-faring, humanoid, human-looking, blonde and blue-eyed people are most definitely not the case.





This is dangerous and damaging on so many levels and especially to those who are legitimate contactees


And so when this does not happen how are we here on PA going to react? Just laugh it off as another hoax or do we take it to task and make a stand? What is our responsibility and accountability for those in our community who are legitimate? Do we simply stand aside and let them get swept away with the rest of the hoaxers?

Those of you who have a ‘ticket’ what are you going to do or say when this doesn’t come to pass? You are involved now and accountable so I feel you should ‘man-up’ to your now personal responsibility to the rest of this community.


Why should contactees feel threatened by this adventure?

If the happening does not happen i would expect fellow PA members to react with understanding, respect and compassion. or is that asking too much.

I think cellerdoor is being responsible as far as one can before the event, By announcing on an open forum that He/she may be partaking on this journey.

Why feel threatened bluefire.

EDIT: just looked at cellerdoors profile and i see he is a he.

Thanks for the post Blufire. I agree almost entirely. I just feel that this guy is being manipulated, along with us too. Used as a tool maybe. I feel he is well-intentioned, but whoever is behind the idea of the whole thing is not.

The best way for somebody to discredit him, is to arrange this. He also makes a bold move by not only accepting and believing in this, but also forwarding it to so many people on the net. Truly courageous, but I feel a dire mistake he will regret later.

Or maybe like another Avalon member suggested (which I also believe is a very plausible theory), is that he is doing this so that he can discredit the GFL thing once and for all, when nothing happens.

Billyjj - I think what Blufire means is that we are going to get the same treatment, more or less. because with every flop or failure that has started like this, more and more people become more skeptical of extraterrestrial contact occurring on our planet. Some even skeptical that any extraterrestrial have visited us/are visiting us.

I tend to agree with her there. Especially when you have two people who claim contact from the same ET civilization, but saying different things but only one makes a prediction and it doesn't happen. What are you going to do? Believe one more than the other? If so, under what criteria?

Most people would sign off both alleged contactees, because of the disappointment.


Ok, let's assume that this is the real thing (big assumption but regardless) and they're willing to share technology and have replicators that can use commonly availble materials as feedstocks and that they have some sort of portable free energy device.

We have the technology to create replicators, even now. The technology is just not available publicly. If it was, and I had access to it (along with a more deeper knowledge of molecular chemistry), I myself can build a custom-made replicator machine.




Hi OnyxKnight, can you elaborate on your post.

Thanks.

Sure, just which part of my post are you asking clarification of?

[lindabaker]

I sincerely wish this to happen, it would be great to have feedback here with all the stories from Avalonians ... take those thoughts to where you want to go folks.

I actually hope the mainstream doesn't take note of this until afterwards. If the ride is on, then I think a few of the usual challenges to the MSM reporting the truth will happen. However, the second and the third "rides" with increasing numbers should fix that.

There is a point to be taken here, and I will take it.

I am going to refrain from contemplating/visualising any of the negative scenarios from this point forward until after the stated leaving date (which is the 5th Feb 2012 for me in Australia).

Not long to wait.

PS: Can any Avalonians please state if they

1) Applied
2) Got a confirmation ( boarding pass ;) )

Hi Anchor...yes I applied ...haven't heard anything as yet. I think I jumped on the bandwagon a little too late...but given the oppurtunity I would not hesitate...

Just one thing to all those who are the lucky ones...if this manifests...ask and embed these thoughts and questions within your mindset...

"are you for the good and best interest of mankind and are you from the 'light', if you are not I command you to leave my space and body NOW" if they are from the 'light' you'll know. Cosmic law will be in effect.

viking

BUMP. Thanks Anchor and Viking

[Mark]

Good luck Cellardoor, and anybody else who is going. We look forward to your report back, if you choose to do so! Bless! :peace:

[cellardoor]

I've just read the entire thread and noticed that we have a member who is going.

Even though I am pretty sure nothing will happen, I do appreciate cellardoor for stepping forward and taking this risk. It's kinda of a big risk either way :).

Cellardoor, regardless of what happens I think you're in for some "learning" as they say. So I guess you're our "reporter on the field", and you have my support!

Thank you for your understanding support Ilie Pandia, much appreciated. I'd like as well to thank you for the hard work you and all the mods put into this site.

Blessings

[Billy]

Why should contactees feel threatened by this adventure?

If the happening does not happen i would expect fellow PA members to react with understanding, respect and compassion. or is that asking too much.

I think cellerdoor is being responsible as far as one can before the event, By announcing on an open forum that He/she may be partaking on this journey.

Why feel threatened bluefire.

EDIT: just looked at cellerdoors profile and i see he is a he.


Billyjj - I think what Blufire means is that we are going to get the same treatment, more or less. because with every flop or failure that has started like this, more and more people become more skeptical of extraterrestrial contact occurring on our planet. Some even skeptical that any extraterrestrial have visited us/are visiting us.

I tend to agree with her there. Especially when you have two people who claim contact from the same ET civilization, but saying different things but only one makes a prediction and it doesn't happen. What are you going to do? Believe one more than the other? If so, under what criteria?

Most people would sign off both alleged contactees, because of the disappointment.



Hi Onyxknight, Firsly do you personally feel threated by this, If the event is BS would it destablize your own personal beliefs that manifested from your owm personal experiences ?

If the event does not happen (i hope it does) would that not be more of a purification process, seperating the wheat from the chaf as they say. What is disinfo and one step closer to the truth.

I can only see two positives here, If it happens. Great news
If it does not happen. One more lie becomes transparent, another one bites the dust. The chaf blows away in the wind and we are left with purer wheat,

peace

[cellardoor]

Smart move

I'm sorry apparently I've missed a post of importance, that you might have some info to add. Please could you direct me to it. Thank you.

Sounds like its mean't in general terms, in the sense that the whole thing is a bit "tin foil hat"
Sean

I agree that the whole thing sounds too wish wash to be true. At least to me. Maybe I'm wrong. In fact, I hope I'm wrong, because this would mean official first contact on a non-individual basis.

The "Smart Move" post was directed at Sean by the way, commending that he refused to read any further after he saw a few worrying terms often used in the new age disinfo campaigns.


No I'm sure someone mentioned a specific post by Onxy, never mind. But yes tin hat exactly. But I've always taken the position that channelled material is no more or less reliable than whistleblower testimony, especially black ops. It's all speculation, I'm just following my heart. I'm mean even David Icke uses mediums, and has admitted hearing beings, same for Ben Fulford, he hears his dead mason grandfarther. So each to his own I say. It's all about choice, freewill in 3d is a state of confusion.

I'm on the fence with channeling. I have had some experience with it, concerning my sessions with Logos. But I actually met the source of the channelings later - so I guess that helped a lot.

Also lately I've been getting a lot of streams of information so I carry a notebook with me almost all the time so I can have something to write it down and analyze what's been received. It doesn't seem to come from one source, but its all around.

This is why I do hold some trust to channeled material, but I always read it with caution, and filter the information I feel is wrong. That being said, today many claim to be channeling ETs and interdimensional beings, but rarely do any of the information correlate, and focus is usually maintained on religiously dictated choruses focusing on new age wish wash.

I think people need to develop better discerning skills when it comes to channeled material (or whatever type of material they stumble upon really).




Brilliant! thanks I'd be glad to answer that. Anyone who has looked at the ancient aliens theory would entertain the possibility that the Greek gods we're in fact E.T's and that these ET's may have given then knowledge about the solar system and perhaps even given the planets names. Also Grener stated that there was once a race living on Neptune before the great war. His ship is called Neptune. Mock all you like this is still within the realm of plausibility.

I'm not a mocker (although I should have presented my case better than "popcorns + juice" .

I'm just warning people. I think the guy may be well-intentioned, but whoever is his source of information of this (maybe personal extraterrestrial contacts?), that's the shady part. That's where my alarms go nuts.

Few things to consider before taking this seriously - especially those who are "lucky" enough to be offered a ticket, like you:

1 - channeled material (the faint first alarm)

2 - GFL (major alarm - for obvious reasons - bad track record)

3- Archangels (major alarm - for obvious reasons)

4 - Taking select number of people on a trip via tickets, then returning them home (Another major alarm - is this a funfair?)

The word 'Neptune' has no extraterrestrial origin. The Greek equivalent of the god's name on the other hand, may have. Neptune is the name the Romans gave him.

Yes, the ancient astronaut theory, I promote it too. It doesn't really confirm that Neptune is a name given to our planet by extraterrestrials.

I never said there is no life on Neptune by the way. I just said space-faring, humanoid, human-looking, blonde and blue-eyed people are most definitely not the case.





This is dangerous and damaging on so many levels and especially to those who are legitimate contactees


And so when this does not happen how are we here on PA going to react? Just laugh it off as another hoax or do we take it to task and make a stand? What is our responsibility and accountability for those in our community who are legitimate? Do we simply stand aside and let them get swept away with the rest of the hoaxers?

Those of you who have a ‘ticket’ what are you going to do or say when this doesn’t come to pass? You are involved now and accountable so I feel you should ‘man-up’ to your now personal responsibility to the rest of this community.


Why should contactees feel threatened by this adventure?

If the happening does not happen i would expect fellow PA members to react with understanding, respect and compassion. or is that asking too much.

I think cellerdoor is being responsible as far as one can before the event, By announcing on an open forum that He/she may be partaking on this journey.

Why feel threatened bluefire.

EDIT: just looked at cellerdoors profile and i see he is a he.

Thanks for the post Blufire. I agree almost entirely. I just feel that this guy is being manipulated, along with us too. Used as a tool maybe. I feel he is well-intentioned, but whoever is behind the idea of the whole thing is not.

The best way for somebody to discredit him, is to arrange this. He also makes a bold move by not only accepting and believing in this, but also forwarding it to so many people on the net. Truly courageous, but I feel a dire mistake he will regret later.

Or maybe like another Avalon member suggested (which I also believe is a very plausible theory), is that he is doing this so that he can discredit the GFL thing once and for all, when nothing happens.

Billyjj - I think what Blufire means is that we are going to get the same treatment, more or less. because with every flop or failure that has started like this, more and more people become more skeptical of extraterrestrial contact occurring on our planet. Some even skeptical that any extraterrestrial have visited us/are visiting us.

I tend to agree with her there. Especially when you have two people who claim contact from the same ET civilization, but saying different things but only one makes a prediction and it doesn't happen. What are you going to do? Believe one more than the other? If so, under what criteria?

Most people would sign off both alleged contactees, because of the disappointment.


Ok, let's assume that this is the real thing (big assumption but regardless) and they're willing to share technology and have replicators that can use commonly availble materials as feedstocks and that they have some sort of portable free energy device.

We have the technology to create replicators, even now. The technology is just not available publicly. If it was, and I had access to it (along with a more deeper knowledge of molecular chemistry), I myself can build a custom-made replicator machine.




Hi OnyxKnight, can you elaborate on your post.

Thanks.

Sure, just which part of my post are you asking clarification of?

All very precise and extremely well put points, thank you.

[etm567]

John, I think I got you mixed up with Viking (??) . . . . I am not clear on just who is involved with this other than cellardoor

My apologies . . . .





I guess I should include etm567, Ria, Anchor(?)

I am not precisely sure what you meant there, but to clarify, I am not a "contactee". I am however a wanderer and fully accepting of my ET origins. My mission here has not included the need to contact anyone from my group, not in a way that I recall anyway.

John..

Hi Blufire ...

No, not me...the only time I ever get to board these ships is perhaps in my sleep time!! buggers aren't they!!

I spoke to Ria this mornng and she has not recieved a 'ticket' so far ... I think there was etm and another here on Avalon as well as Celadoor...perhaps they can confirm...

viking

I think Ria was confirmed. I think she was just about the last. But she needed to confirm with them.

She won't be getting a ticket. They are going to post a list, and if those of us who were invited -- and Ria was invited, I think? -- do not see our names there, we can do something about it.

All of this info is posted on the2012scenario.com, where anyone who is interested can read it.

I know about Ria because she contacted me, and I contacted Steve and gave him what I thought was her email address, but it didn't work, so he contacted me again, and I think they finally got together.

ETM

[GaelVictor]

Take along some U.S. fifties holarin' music with you, just in case..


GSbigjiKLoU

[Billy]

so to update, I am i correct in saying we have two Avalonians Confirmed for the journey. ETM and Cellardoor?

[etm567]

I've just read the entire thread and noticed that we have a member who is going.

Even though I am pretty sure nothing will happen, I do appreciate cellardoor for stepping forward and taking this risk. It's kinda of a big risk either way :).

Cellardoor, regardless of what happens I think you're in for some "learning" as they say. So I guess you're our "reporter on the field", and you have my support!

Hi, Ilie,

FYI, I'm going too (if this happens), as I think I've posted on this thread many times. Am I in some way invisible? And I think Ria is also going.

And if it does take place, PA will hear a great deal from me about it. :)

ETM

¤=[Post Update]=¤


so to update, I am i correct in saying we have two Avalonians Confirmed for the journey. ETM and Cellardoor?

Yes. And I believe Ria is too. She got an "invitation," which is what counts as a "golden ticket" or a boarding pass. Whether or not she has confirmed to Steve, I do not know. I hope she has, and I look forward to meeting both Ria and Cellardoor.

ETM

[cellardoor]

so to update, I am i correct in saying we have two Avalonians Confirmed for the journey. ETM and Cellardoor?

Yes, that's right although the confirmation comes when the list is posted, I have and I'm sure etm has finalised our names with the new account. Which will then be cross ref with the invitations given out. So not long till we know for absolute sure but it's safe to say we're in yes.

I can't speak for Ria though, If she could PM me that'd be great.

[Ilie Pandia]

FYI, I'm going too (if this happens), as I think I've posted on this thread many times. Am I in some way invisible? And I think Ria is also going.


Ah sorry ETM. From what I read I got that you were considering going but not sure yet... So we have two reporters of the events to be unfolding. Awesome!

[lindabaker]

The vocabulary in the "invitation" is the same as writer of the Ashtar Command and Sananda (Jesus in the spaceship) material. It is a decades old deliberate joke on the new agers by members of the religious right having a bit of fun. Let it be that it remains a bit of fun only. Now, in my experience this "author" talked about the Galactic Federation of Light. Then, a new name was mentioned, and now a President. Is this the same group? Who can explain the switch of names? Perhaps it was changed from Commander to President to make it sound better? Our debates were not hidden from view.

If we are talking about an entirely different group of benevolent visitors through these same channels, then I give it a chance of being legit. Otherwise, it's playing into their silly game. Again, if it remains a bit of fun, then that's okay, too. If any harvesting is about to be involved, please know that these may be psychopathic wealthy people who think they are right. They see non religious folks as needing a lesson of sorts. Or it could go deeper into a layer behind the religious folks, that of controllers who want to take the bravest and brightest first. I have never seen a reptilian shapeshifter that I know of. I hear that they do exist. Please know that those of us who are concerned care about you, the ones with the tickets.

I bumped what Viking said what to ask. Please take heed.

[another bob]

This is text from an email from James at the ECETI Ranch

Having already been on a ride and other out of body experiences on the ships this senario is possible yet it is often all about ones spiritual maturity and advancement when it comes to contact and one on one experiences. I guess this Saturday we will find out if this offer by offworlders to take people on board is for real. I have not personally received any validation. I did however see a very large ship in the West last night traveling West at a very low altitide. Tried to film it have not looked at the film yet but it would not show up on the view finder?

Lou Baldin recently mentioned that there are currently some large craft originating from Venus, "brazenly" parked a few hundred miles above Earth, and that they are communicating with a few folks on this planet. He also qualifies them as "renegades", fyi. I'm wondering if that fellow who takes the cool photos of space craft has gotten some snaps of them?

:yo:

[cellardoor]

CellarDoor (Michael)

Yes David W is a friend of mine... there are a lot of David's in the world... so was asking for clarification... and I am not aware that he was given an invitation...was he?

I also wanted to add to this discussion that I personally do not have any desire to go off on a trip on a space craft. This is something that I have thought about seriously way before now. 25 years ago I so wanted to be taken off this planet because of all the war and hate and greed and such.... However I now know that I chose to be here now and I remember why I chose to be here and I signed up for hanging in for the long haul.

I also know that we humans each have different roles to play and are on different paths. I advise everyone to follow their own inner guidance and not listen to what others have to say is "good" or "bad" to do or to not do. We are not all in the same place. Yes George K. (also a friend of mine) advises against going into the craft and I respect that and I persoonaly do not want to go onto a craft at this point in time (not untill I had a million % guarenttee that I would be returned that is becase of course on one hand I would love to go) however I have "work" to do here now!

SO I support the decisions of others and if someone feels guided to go onto a ship who am I to advise not to . I do not know what is best for anyone except for me and trust and support others to follow their inner guidance not mine.

SO in the mean time this is a fun scenario to ponder and play with and wait to see what happens.

Much love to us all!!

Sorry Kimberley I've only just seen your post, this threads becoming a bit of a monster. Easy to get lostLol

Yes I heard David Wilcock will be getting an email and most likely Bill Ryan, if not a visit from a crew member, so we are told. I know crazy! Thank you for your kind words, they are much appreciated. I have taken George K's opinion into account as well. I'm not sure if he'll be getting one I don't think there is much point:) Time will tell.

Thanks again

[etm567]

I hope the lucky ones can tell us all about the trip and possibly have videos and pictures!

I'm sure all the photo's will be fuzzy and blurrrrrrrrr'd, or Mass hypnosis ploy and told this and that happened, now remember and click wake up. Snap!

Is that what you really wish for us? Gee, your kind thoughts are appreciated....

I wonder if some people naturally share certain attributes? Do you think that those that are most afraid of looking foolish may be the first to jump in with ridicule of others?

ETM

[OnyxKnight]

@ another bob - Venusians = Alpha Centauri renegades

[cellardoor]

@ another bob - Venusians = Alpha Centauri renegades

Onyx I was just looking at the etymology of the word Neptune and there really is no clear derivatives and it's origins are highly deputed. So nothing conclusive I'm afraid.

[etm567]

The vocabulary in the "invitation" is the same as writer of the Ashtar Command and Sananda (Jesus in the spaceship) material. It is a decades old deliberate joke on the new agers by members of the religious right having a bit of fun. Let it be that it remains a bit of fun only. Now, in my experience this "author" talked about the Galactic Federation of Light. Then, a new name was mentioned, and now a President. Is this the same group? Who can explain the switch of names? Perhaps it was changed from Commander to President to make it sound better? Our debates were not hidden from view.

If we are talking about an entirely different group of benevolent visitors through these same channels, then I give it a chance of being legit. Otherwise, it's playing into their silly game. Again, if it remains a bit of fun, then that's okay, too. If any harvesting is about to be involved, please know that these may be psychopathic wealthy people who think they are right. They see non religious folks as needing a lesson of sorts. Or it could go deeper into a layer behind the religious folks, that of controllers who want to take the bravest and brightest first. I have never seen a reptilian shapeshifter that I know of. I hear that they do exist. Please know that those of us who are concerned care about you, the ones with the tickets.

I bumped what Viking said what to ask. Please take heed.

From what I can see, you have not read what is publicly available to read about this, and so you are misrepresenting what has taken place.

I'm fully aware of the hoaxed GFers, particularly those associated with the Ekkers and 9-foot Reptilian Hatonn, the Phoenix Journals, the Contact newsletters, and George Green. And no, this is not that, and the language is not the same at all.

If I could digress here: I put a lot of faith, perhaps too much, in the Law of One, or the Ra Material. In Book One, Ra is asked specifically about Jesus, where he came from, where he is, and if he will be coming back as some of our religions seem to say. His answer was extremely clear: The bit about him returning to Earth was misunderstood. He would be here, nearby, to communicate with us on Earth through channeled messages at this time, but he would not return to Earth. And what was meant more generally by "the return" was the return of the Ascended Masters.

I realize many of you who point at all GFL messages as all being the same (which they obviously are not, if you would sit down and compare them) also claim that the Ascended Masters are part of this hoax. First off, I think you are quite guilty of what you are accusing me and others of being, which is being unwilling or unable to make distinctions between different sources of information, or perhaps to tell apples from oranges.

There was a very big, well organized and obviously fake project that went on for many years purporting to be the GFL, which I referred to above. You can tell by reading some of the material what nonsense it is. But not all of it is quite so obvious. I'm aware of that, and I've discounted that material, and I judge it is not the same source. Are you aware of that, and have you made any serious attempts to compare the material from different sources, and, perhaps some vocabulary that someone actually used?

But to take that information, that yes, there are hoaxers, and then make the leap that all GFL messages are hoaxes, that there are no Ascended Masters -- something which has been talked about by religions all over the world for thousands of years, I think -- and that the being that was Jesus is not real, or could not be real, or wouldn't waste his time talking to us, or what it is precisely that you are saying, is a mighty big leap, and I think it is one that was taken not very carefully.

Most likely, I am not alone as a reader of channeled information who has spent years looking at the various kinds of it and striving to learn to tell the difference. I certainly haven't figured it all out. There is some that I have decided is probably pretty decent, and there have been times when I've changed my mind about it. I'm always open to the possibilities that it is false. So to assume that I just take everything as truth without any thought or care is an astonishing assumption on your part -- precisely the kind of assumption you are suggesting that I and others like me have made in this particular situation.

So while I don't accept any messages from Dharma, aka Doris Ekker, and Jesus/Sananda in the GFL spaceship overhead with the 9-foot reptilian Commander Gyeorgos Ceres Hatonn -- who spews vulgar racist propaganda that is unmistakable -- does not mean that Jesus could not be here, somewhere, or even in a spaceship, or maybe in another dimension. How could I know for sure? But then, how can you know for sure? Truly, I do not believe either you or I have all the answers. And I am willing to take a risk for myself, personally.

And as there is no "invitation" that you could have read to say that the vocabulary is the same as some, unidentified writer of Ashtar Command and some version of Sananda (as you are not specific, and as there are very many of them, I cannot identify what you are referring to), I must respectfully disagree with you and ask that you take more care when you make such charges and perhaps back them up with some evidence, like quoted material with sources. Could you quote the invitation you are referring to? But wasn't it Steve Beckow's idea? Please, show me the words you are talking about.

Many thanks,

ETM

[etm567]

@ another bob - Venusians = Alpha Centauri renegades

Hi, OnyxKnight. I know you aren't crazy about the Law of One, but as we have talked about, it is the material that is available to us here on Earth, whereas the material you prefer isn't really. So that is what we have. And Ra says that at some point they came from Venus, but in another dimension. They are no longer there, as they have become a group memory complex, or group social memory complex -- sorry, I forget the terminology.

But I am always open to hearing what you have to relate to us from your experiences. And I'm curious about why you are so iffy about the Pleiadeans -- is there something specific you can share with us, apart from them having moved Earth?

I admit I haven't finished reading your thread about your experiences, but I am working on it.

Thanks,

ETM

[blufire]

Cellardoor and etm and maybe ria. Could you at least provide some information on why you signed up for this?

Why do you trust this . . . .even possibly with your life?

What preparations is beckow suggesting you do? Or what has the aliens told beckow you should do and expect?

Are you allowed someone to be with you during the time you are ‘taken away’?

Why do they have to have your address? Wouldn’t they ‘know’ where you are?

Give us something to start building a foundation or platform to report your experience whether it manifests or not. Then I feel it would be more plausible and helpful in moving forward from this event.

I’m not being sarcastic or difficult . . . I’m serious . . . please be a little more forthcoming on why you are so sanguine in moving forward with this with little to no clarifications.

I understand trust is a huge factor here . . . . so why do you trust these aliens and beckow?

I want to trust and believe but I am not a very naïve or gullible person.

Trust is earned and then respected.

I have been accused of feeling threatened a couple times here (billyji). . . .I am in no way threatened by the thought of First Contact and actually if one knew of my history that would be clear. I grew up two mountain ranges from Brown’s Mountain.

OnyxKnight hit it pretty much dead on. I ask again . . . have you read his thread?

[another bob]

@ another bob - Venusians = Alpha Centauri renegades


Look familiar?

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or ...

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Btw, love your stuff -- you and Omnisense are what first hooked me on this site (PA). Thanks!

:yo:

[Deega]

Thanks Cellardoor, very interesting comments all the way.

It seems that you are so convince this event will go forward, you are ready to give your life to it, is it courage or a search to a better world? I guess it must be both!

And since you seem satisfied without much guarantee you’ll be back on Earth Febuary the 14th, here, I wish you the best of flight (if it happens), the best experience, the best learning you might bring back that you may share with others upon return.

And if it happens, and you come back to our world with all this experience and great health, that will be awesome, and this is my wishes to you and others that will be in. If for some reason, you’re caught up in a situation where your life is in danger, you won’t be able to tell of it, but you have made a choice out of search of soul betterness. And if it is a hoax, you will be frustrated but you will overcome.

All the best to you.

Deega

[Mark]

Why is everybody so intent upon eviscerating others who make different choices based upon their belief systems? If you're not going, why are you all so worried about it? Can't you just keep it moving instead of continuing to create negative energy based upon your own relative belief systems? Is it necessary to share your fears and lend negativity, really? Is the fear of this actually being possible so great that it must always and forever result in the same types of comments in every thread relating to anything pertaining to extra-terrestrials, ultra-dimensional communications and channeling? Not speaking to anyone in particular here, but in general about the trend of shifting energy downwards and attempting to convince others that their beliefs are invalid. Nobody here is asking to be saved by anyone else on this bulletin board. Everyone's opinions and beliefs are as valid as everyone else's.

Castigating someone because they believe differently from you is not a positive way to move forward or a way to make what you believe stand out as anything more than an attempt to proselytize and gain adherents to your own belief system, even if it is not a church or scientific framework. Imho. It is possible to share your unique viewpoint without minimizing someone else's or making them seem as if they are crazy or stupid.

Discussing these things as if you're asking someone from a country foreign to yours, politely and with real curiosity, is a much more friendly and neighborly way of moving forward and engaging in conversation than confronting them with your beliefs about their country, as if you've actually been there and know more about it than they do. Our belief systems are our own, personal countries, planets, solar systems, galaxies and universes ... each of us being the creator-soul that we are.

[joedjemal]

Either way we get information. If it's real we might well get hd video live from a ship, if not it's yet another nail in the coffin for channelling and we have to try and work out what on earth (or off earth rather) those things we see flying around are and who's in them.

I'm interested to see either outcome. I'd prefer the ship though, a potentially much richer information source than yet another negative result.

[Billy]

Cellardoor if you are privileged to go onboard I have a question that you can ask on my behalf.

Who is or was Yahwey, Full ID please, If this being still exists etc. Many thanks

Just bumping in case it was missed.

Adding,

Could you ask them to "fly you to the moon" :whistle: fly past some anomilies that NASA cover up, Take some good footage for the world to see.

[Kimberley]

Sorry Kimberley I've only just seen your post, this threads becoming a bit of a monster. Easy to get lostLol

Yes I heard David Wilcock will be getting an email and most likely Bill Ryan, if not a visit from a crew member, so we are told. I know crazy! Thank you for your kind words, they are much appreciated. I have taken George K's opinion into account as well. I'm not sure if he'll be getting one I don't think there is much point:) Time will tell.

Thanks again

Hey dear sweet cellardoor no need to EVER be "sorry" to me :-) you are loved!!!

So where did you hear that David W and Bill R were going to be getting invitations? I have been trying to keep up with this story not just here but on all the other sites that are reporting/talking about this... ????

And for the record as much as I would love this trip to happen I am prepared for the let down if it does not happen... been there done that more times than I want to remember.... I so want you cellardoor, ria, & etm to PLEASE KNOW that if this does not happen it was not meant to happen at this time... and if it does not happen it is not a reflection of you or your views in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM!!!! I know I am not alone in telling you that you are loved by SO VERY MANY for your bravery whether this happens or not!!!

Thank you !!! Love you!!!

[lindabaker]

etm, I am not taking "that leap" rather I am asking that question. Respectfully.

[lindabaker]

To answer your questions, etm, "Are you aware of that" No, I was not aware that you personally had clearly stated in this thread your personal decision that you think it is a different source. Thank you. This thread is huge and I must have overlooked it.

, and have you made any serious attempts to compare the material from different sources" Yes, serious and not just an attempt. I have compared word usage and syntax.

, and, perhaps some vocabulary that someone actually used? Bushels is one of the key words.

[Billy]

Trust is earned and then respected.

I have been accused of feeling threatened a couple times here (billyji). . . .I am in no way threatened by the thought of First Contact and actually if one knew of my history that would be clear. I grew up two mountain ranges from Brown’s Mountain.

OnyxKnight hit it pretty much dead on. I ask again . . . have you read his thread?

Hi Bluefire, I understand that you do not feel threatened by first contact, We all look foreward to that i think.

The feeling threatened was in response to your emotional reaction within this thread earlier. You became defensive therefore in my eyes felt threatened.

But all is well now, as far as Onyxknight's thread if it is this one then yes, i have read and joined in. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15909-My-ET-contact-experiences--discussions-Q-A-panel-etc.-&p=242566#post242566 But maybe there is another thread, could you give a link to the thread please.

Peace

[gripreaper]

Has it escaped anyone else here that this weekend is "Super Bowl" weekend, where hundreds of thousands of people get together to watch earth's ritual? I'm invited to share the game with about 25 other friends, eat exotic foods, drink libations, and talk about anything and everything while checking to see who wins the betting pool. I'm not quite sure how to handle this.

"Hey Bob, did you hear about the spaceship that came and picked up a 100 people and took them on a galactic tour? What do you think about that Bob?"

If it does happen, it will be a game changer (pun intended) and if it doesn't happen it will be a game changer. Maybe you guys could talk them into buzzing the stadium.

[cellardoor]

Cellardoor if you are privileged to go onboard I have a question that you can ask on my behalf.

Who is or was Yahwey, Full ID please, If this being still exists etc. Many thanks

Just bumping in case it was missed.

Adding,

Could you ask them to "fly you to the moon" :whistle: fly past some anomilies that NASA cover up, Take some good footage for the world to see.

Oh yes of course, I'll ask thank you xxx

[kersley]

Will it be televised?

I'm sure it will be.. I have my video recorder on pause ready to record, not something we wanna miss..lol

[cellardoor]

Sorry Kimberley I've only just seen your post, this threads becoming a bit of a monster. Easy to get lostLol

Yes I heard David Wilcock will be getting an email and most likely Bill Ryan, if not a visit from a crew member, so we are told. I know crazy! Thank you for your kind words, they are much appreciated. I have taken George K's opinion into account as well. I'm not sure if he'll be getting one I don't think there is much point:) Time will tell.

Thanks again

Hey dear sweet cellardoor no need to EVER be "sorry" to me :-) you are loved!!!

So where did you hear that David W and Bill R were going to be getting invitations? I have been trying to keep up with this story not just here but on all the other sites that are reporting/talking about this... ????

And for the record as much as I would love this trip to happen I am prepared for the let down if it does not happen... been there done that more times than I want to remember.... I so want you cellardoor, ria, & etm to PLEASE KNOW that if this does not happen it was not meant to happen at this time... and if it does not happen it is not a reflection of you or your views in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM!!!! I know I am not alone in telling you that you are loved by SO VERY MANY for your bravery whether this happens or not!!!

Thank you !!! Love you!!!

Awe, Love you too Kimberley, I see your beautiful soul:)

Believe me I've seen many lightworkers stick there neck out like this and get shot down, and I remember the Blossom saga to well (By the way she's channelling the GFL again!). I didn't ever think I'd have to put myself in this position but I've weighed up the options and I think It is worth it in the end. I truly do not know if this will pan out but I do know Steve, he is putting his faith on the line, literally betting his lifes work, as a spectator I find it highly unlikely that Steve will pull a stunt like this without having some personal confirmation. So here I am, going on faith and a good dose of star wisdom, hoping for the best.
David's name was mentioned by Steve B as one of the opinion leaders who would be approached so I assume Bill Ryan will be asked too. Not sure though. I don't know whats more exiting! Possibly seeing the ET's or seeing our beloved public figures from the truth movement. I think the word is starstruck Lol

[Billy]

Cellardoor if you are privileged to go onboard I have a question that you can ask on my behalf.

Who is or was Yahwey, Full ID please, If this being still exists etc. Many thanks

Just bumping in case it was missed.

Adding,

Could you ask them to "fly you to the moon" :whistle: fly past some anomilies that NASA cover up, Take some good footage for the world to see.

Oh yes of course, I'll ask thank you xxx

Thank you, How about this. Just for starters, :p
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or this
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[Jeffrey]

a bit of excitement at Steve Beckows site...

" Above a hundred people will be leaving Saturday, Feb. 4, 2012, to board the Neptune, the mothership of Grener of Ashira, from Neptune, the President of the Intergalactic Council, for a 10-day tour of the fleet and a trip to another planet. We’ll be returned on Feb. 14 (or sooner if people have other obligations)."

http://the2012scenario.com/2012/01/bring-your-toothbrush-important-communications-for-invitees/#more-93245

Will Elvis be in attendance? If so I'm in, and I'm sure my mom will want to go too.

[ginnyk]

Hello, this is my first post. It's been interesting just lurking and getting to know you. I have been following this thread with great interest because I have been reading Steve's articles for ages. An interesting thought just popped in. In astrology, Neptune is known as the planet of confusion, illusion and delusion. Hmmmmm?

[lindabaker]

Why is everybody so intent upon eviscerating others who make different choices based upon their belief systems? If you're not going, why are you all so worried about it? Can't you just keep it moving instead of continuing to create negative energy based upon your own relative belief systems? Is it necessary to share your fears and lend negativity, really? Is the fear of this actually being possible so great that it must always and forever result in the same types of comments in every thread relating to anything pertaining to extra-terrestrials, ultra-dimensional communications and channeling? Not speaking to anyone in particular here, but in general about the trend of shifting energy downwards and attempting to convince others that their beliefs are invalid. Nobody here is asking to be saved by anyone else on this bulletin board. Everyone's opinions and beliefs are as valid as everyone else's.

Castigating someone because they believe differently from you is not a positive way to move forward or a way to make what you believe stand out as anything more than an attempt to proselytize and gain adherents to your own belief system, even if it is not a church or scientific framework. Imho. It is possible to share your unique viewpoint without minimizing someone else's or making them seem as if they are crazy or stupid.

Discussing these things as if you're asking someone from a country foreign to yours, politely and with real curiosity, is a much more friendly and neighborly way of moving forward and engaging in conversation than confronting them with your beliefs about their country, as if you've actually been there and know more about it than they do. Our belief systems are our own, personal countries, planets, solar systems, galaxies and universes ... each of us being the creator-soul that we are.

Everyone has the right to ask questions. Our spiritual teachers tell us so. If we are being scolded for asking sincere questions, then, that is what worries me the most. Are some of them stupid questions? Perhaps. Having lived in a foreign country for years, I understand (and have witnessed) lack of respect of other cultures. Questions are not necessarily the act of confronting others with our personal beliefs. It's more like a Please give me more info. We do have the right to ask bold and broad questions, do we not? If questions are causing negative reactions in those being questioned, then that is something we should also examine. If loving light beings are truly that, they know that seeking further info is not the same as proselytizing one's own belief structure. That is the continuation of duality thinking. Respect is earned. Those who think that questions are an attack, are misunderstanding. If an archangel is truly an archangel, they will welcome all inquiries. How is it minimizing other beliefs to simply not know, and to ask? Respectfully.

[gripreaper]

Yes I heard David Wilcock will be getting an email and most likely Bill Ryan,

A Galactic Tour on a mothership with the Galactic council leader, and David Wilcock? This just keeps getting better.

You guys better buzz the Super Bowl Stadium!

[noprophet]

Everyone has the right to ask questions. Our spiritual teachers tell us so. If we are being scolded for asking sincere questions, then, that is what worries me the most. Are some of them stupid questions? Perhaps. Having lived in a foreign country for years, I understand (and have witnessed) lack of respect of other cultures. Questions are not necessarily the act of confronting others with our personal beliefs. It's more like a Please give me more info. We do have the right to ask bold and broad questions, do we not? If questions are causing negative reactions in those being questioned, then that is something we should also examine. If loving light beings are truly that, they know that seeking further info is not the same as proselytizing one's own belief structure. That is the continuation of duality thinking. Respect is earned. Those who think that questions are an attack, are misunderstanding. If an archangel is truly an archangel, they will welcome all inquiries. How is it minimizing other beliefs to simply not know, and to ask? Respectfully.

A question is simply the vehicle of an intention. We will be on our way to a very confused state of semantics to think that all questions are simply intended to derive an answer.

[meat suit]

Hello, this is my first post. It's been interesting just lurking and getting to know you. I have been following this thread with great interest because I have been reading Steve's articles for ages. An interesting thought just popped in. In astrology, Neptune is known as the planet of confusion, illusion and delusion. Hmmmmm?

Welcome ginnyk!!! this then is the first reply to your first post in my first thread......got no idea about astology personally....

[schneider]

I haven't read the entire thread but I was thinking it would be nice to see if planet x is out there, if a superwave is coming, if the galactic core is going to have/or is having an affect on us. Oh also I noticed that the planet Neptune is just about to enter the sign of Pisces, an event that happens every 165 years. The ship shares the same name. It looks like Neptune enters Pisces on Saturday, the same day that they take off. Interesting.

[tonius]

Why is everybody so intent upon eviscerating others who make different choices based upon their belief systems? If you're not going, why are you all so worried about it? Can't you just keep it moving instead of continuing to create negative energy based upon your own relative belief systems? Is it necessary to share your fears and lend negativity, really? Is the fear of this actually being possible so great that it must always and forever result in the same types of comments in every thread relating to anything pertaining to extra-terrestrials, ultra-dimensional communications and channeling? Not speaking to anyone in particular here, but in general about the trend of shifting energy downwards and attempting to convince others that their beliefs are invalid. Nobody here is asking to be saved by anyone else on this bulletin board. Everyone's opinions and beliefs are as valid as everyone else's.

Castigating someone because they believe differently from you is not a positive way to move forward or a way to make what you believe stand out as anything more than an attempt to proselytize and gain adherents to your own belief system, even if it is not a church or scientific framework. Imho. It is possible to share your unique viewpoint without minimizing someone else's or making them seem as if they are crazy or stupid.

Discussing these things as if you're asking someone from a country foreign to yours, politely and with real curiosity, is a much more friendly and neighborly way of moving forward and engaging in conversation than confronting them with your beliefs about their country, as if you've actually been there and know more about it than they do. Our belief systems are our own, personal countries, planets, solar systems, galaxies and universes ... each of us being the creator-soul that we are.


Rahkyt , if you walk by someone who is going to jump from a cliff ,who is really convinced is doing the right thing , what would you do ? Wouldn't you at least give your version,or at least make sure he knows exactly what he is going into ? Maybe his reasons are better than yours but, at least now You, both, have more information, from which to come to a decicion.We have to discuss all the possibilites , no exlusion , and i would never DARE tell someone else what to type in his keyboard. 'NEGATIVITY' is a very realative term.

I can put the word love , light etc... all over my post and yet give nothing real, and maybe in another post were i am more passionate , more 'Negative' as you call it, express true Caring. If someone explains thoroughly what he is trying to communicate ,i wouldn't care less if he is not polliticaly correct, i am not here to feel 'good' about myself, in fact i would loved to be 'shocked', at least i i understand where i have to work more in myself. I sometimes see more caring in these kind of 'nagative' posts you talk about than in some others full of 'Precious' words and 'Nicely' written yet with nothing to give. You see, for me the 'Negative' you talk about is maybe the opposite. Who is right? We are both wrong, that negativity is created only in the mind of the one reading the word .

You maybe have a feeling that i am being 'negative' , well for me is just crude sincerity,so people write whatever comes in your mind,many have suffered and lost lives for being 'negative ' to someone in this world, being it Goevernments or Churces.If we are afraid of 'Negativity' coming from a bunch of Pixels on a screen than good luck to us with Et-s and psychopaths.

As for your question : If you're not going, why are you all so worried about it? ... No comment

[lindabaker]

Everyone has the right to ask questions. Our spiritual teachers tell us so. If we are being scolded for asking sincere questions, then, that is what worries me the most. Are some of them stupid questions? Perhaps. Having lived in a foreign country for years, I understand (and have witnessed) lack of respect of other cultures. Questions are not necessarily the act of confronting others with our personal beliefs. It's more like a Please give me more info. We do have the right to ask bold and broad questions, do we not? If questions are causing negative reactions in those being questioned, then that is something we should also examine. If loving light beings are truly that, they know that seeking further info is not the same as proselytizing one's own belief structure. That is the continuation of duality thinking. Respect is earned. Those who think that questions are an attack, are misunderstanding. If an archangel is truly an archangel, they will welcome all inquiries. How is it minimizing other beliefs to simply not know, and to ask? Respectfully.

A question is simply the vehicle of an intention. We will be on our way to a very confused state of semantics to think that all questions are simply intended to derive an answer.

Sometimes questions are simply intended to derive an answer. Not everyone has a predetermined agenda to put forward their own beliefs. Couldn't it be true that there are those with a neutral stance at this time? I ask all seers to look into my intention as an example of this principle. I simply want to know. I am not familiar with this Steve Beckow information. Is it okay to not know, and to ask? Sheesh.

[Kimberley]

Ok again for the record to reflect... I Kimberley Jaeger find this potential for some of my brothers and sisters to go off planet and be able to report to us when they are off planet and after they return to be such a fun potential!!!

If this does not happen I will still love the idea of it!!! I am a dreamer and I am not the only one... I expect that some day you will all join me/us and we will live as ONE!!!

SO cellardoor, ria & etm if you are interested in giving me your skype and e-mail info I would welcome the opportunity to be your earth communication contact!!!

And if you would like to talk with me plz let me know...I am a much better talker than typer... I live in USA EST and have unlimited calling to US & Canada and have skype minutes and am able to call via skype all over the planet... so if I can be of assistance I am here for you!!!

Much love to us all in all ways always!!! XOXOXO

[Mark]

Only hit dogs bark. I addressed a general trend here on PA that I highlighted on this thread. If you are among those who felt like you had to respond to my post, then perhaps you need to address your inner feelings about your response, and why you think that my post was directed at you.

Its great and fine to ask questions and have them answered. More power to you all. But sometimes, when folks ask questions they don't really care what the answer is because they already think they know so their question is really a setup to state their own opinions and possible disbelief. Again, if you are questioning in the spirit of really finding out the answer, that is wonderful, awesome, great. I'm sure those who are going and those who believe that it is possible to go are quite willing to answer your questions if they are respectful and friendly. If not, then there is something that came across in your writing and apparent intentions that displays something else entirely.

[Limor Wolf]

After reading this thread,I admit I am left without words,or maybe,shall I say -no suitable words. Whatever I will say now,will not bring the light,love & radiant blessings so please continue your way if your afraid of doing some realistic thinking and indulge in a little bit of earthly criticism .This is not to embed a nail in this wheel of excitment.However,I need to ask: What is going on here? a little promise and a 'so called' opportunity to have a ride on a foreign craft and most are ready to jump in?

[noprophet]

Sometimes questions are simply intended to derive an answer. Not everyone has a predetermined agenda to put forward their own beliefs. Couldn't it be true that there are those with a neutral stance at this time? I ask all seers to look into my intention as an example of this principle. I simply want to know. I am not familiar with this Steve Beckow information. Is it okay to not know, and to ask? Sheesh.

Absolutely their are neutrals, I did not intend to paint you otherwise.
It is definitely a case-by-case basis.

The question becomes one of trusting our intuition. What is ego response and what is our unity connection.
A useful discussion would be methods of deriving this.

[etm567]

I sense that cellardoor has a pretty good sense that nothing may happen, and will not be emotionally crushed. I actually think it's pretty brave to even entertain the notion of being among the first jumping onto an alien vessel, voluntarily. I promise not to tease cellardoor or anyone else with a ticket, but on Feb 5th I think it is fair to start a discussion about just exactly why "someone" wants people to believe that aliens are going to solve our problems.

Dennis

Does that mean you are going to tease me? I'm perfectly aware that it is pretty unlikely, although something I would love to have take place. I would never pass up an opportunity like this one, just in case it is real! Because if it were, and I didn't go because I was afraid of being teased, then I really would feel foolish. Granted, I'll still feel foolish if it doesn't happen, but I won't regret giving it a chance.

ETM

[etm567]

Here's a little bit of an update:

In a recent channeling, Grener has accepted a proposal from Steve that they will take two friends of Steve's for a quick trip to the ship sometime tomorrow, in order to confirm for other folks that this is indeed real, so that people can cancel appointments and work and such in good faith that this isn't nonsense.

Grener also has clarified that this is not going to be any kind of an "astral" visit. It will be a real, 3D, human experience. He says they do the astral invitations and visits all the time anyway.

ETM

[cellardoor]

Interesting development; Two people have arranged to go in a scout ship on friday in order to bring back photos as proof for all who will be following.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Lol Jinx etm

[EnergyGardener]

I sense that cellardoor has a pretty good sense that nothing may happen, and will not be emotionally crushed. I actually think it's pretty brave to even entertain the notion of being among the first jumping onto an alien vessel, voluntarily. I promise not to tease cellardoor or anyone else with a ticket, but on Feb 5th I think it is fair to start a discussion about just exactly why "someone" wants people to believe that aliens are going to solve our problems.

Dennis

Does that mean you are going to tease me? I'm perfectly aware that it is pretty unlikely, although something I would love to have take place. I would never pass up an opportunity like this one, just in case it is real! Because if it were, and I didn't go because I was afraid of being teased, then I really would feel foolish. Granted, I'll still feel foolish if it doesn't happen, but I won't regret giving it a chance.

ETM

The process to incarnate on Earth at this time was very likely not an easy task that we thus far have accomplished.

Hitching a ride around the galaxy, by comparison, is likely much less difficult, unless we believe it to be. We can appreciate the skepticism; we are hoping that it works out for you, your entire group, Steve and for ourselves: That outcome will change all of our lives, validating not just the travel opportunity for all humans, but the ramifications of disclosure, expedited relearning and ascendance.

[cellardoor]

I make a motion this thread be moved from “General Discussion” into the “Channeled” section with appropriate disclaimer.

After all this is channeled information and event.

Anyone second my motion??

Mod?
I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but until the tractor beam starts lifting folks, this is indeed humans discussing channeled information. The minute any predictions from the channeled information becomes real, then move the thread into "General Discussion."

If a group of 100 people all have an out-of-body experience on Feb 4th, and (without hearing each others story) debrief, and we find out that everyone had the same out-of-body inter-dimensional experience, then I'd say this is either true (but not what we expected) or the black-ops boys have gotten very good at targeting people and implanting experiences.

I sense that cellardoor has a pretty good sense that nothing may happen, and will not be emotionally crushed. I actually think it's pretty brave to even entertain the notion of being among the first jumping onto an alien vessel, voluntarily. I promise not to tease cellardoor or anyone else with a ticket, but on Feb 5th I think it is fair to start a discussion about just exactly why "someone" wants people to believe that aliens are going to solve our problems.

Dennis

It's a date my friend:) Of course I might have to leave you hanging;)

[lindabaker]

Sometimes hit dogs bark, and sometimes there are defenders of those dogs. I must be one of those. Everyone has the right to ask and everyone has the right, I 'm thinking, to attempt to hide their personal agendas within those questions. When we see the agenda, we see the area that needs tuning. I am defending the right to ask, even and especially, any negative question and for the moment, even those people who do so. Hah! Maybe that's my agenda. From all of this comes the ability to further our discernment skills and response - ability. I do admit to being one to draw out the crux of the matter. That way, some but not all, issues come up for discussion now, and can be dealt with now. I mean, as if there aren't going to be major things to be discussed with the larger general public upon the return. Assuming that there will be audio and video! Thinking ahead on how to best address the general (stunned?) disbelief of many. Unity connection will come with complete understanding. "I have only come here seeking knowledge. Things they would not teach me of, in college." Time to get your chops up, and I am here to help.

[Mark]

As per my previous post:


Its great and fine to ask questions and have them answered. More power to you all. But sometimes, when folks ask questions they don't really care what the answer is because they already think they know so their question is really a setup to state their own opinions and possible disbelief. Again, if you are questioning in the spirit of really finding out the answer, that is wonderful, awesome, great. I'm sure those who are going and those who believe that it is possible to go are quite willing to answer your questions if they are respectful and friendly. If not, then there is something that came across in your writing and apparent intentions that displays something else entirely.

I find it useless to engage straw-man arguments or respond to points I never addressed, so I will leave it at this and look forward to whatever comes from this adventure! Good luck, one and all!

[cellardoor]

Sometimes hit dogs bark, and sometimes there are defenders of those dogs. I must be one of those. Everyone has the right to ask and everyone has the right, I 'm thinking, to attempt to hide their personal agendas within those questions. When we see the agenda, we see the area that needs tuning. I am defending the right to ask, even and especially, any negative question and for the moment, even those people who do so. Hah! Maybe that's my agenda. From all of this comes the ability to further our discernment skills and response - ability. I do admit to being one to draw out the crux of the matter. That way, some but not all, issues come up for discussion now, and can be dealt with now. I mean, as if there aren't going to be major things to be discussed with the larger general public upon the return. Assuming that there will be audio and video! Thinking ahead on how to best address the general (stunned?) disbelief of many. Unity connection will come with complete understanding. "I have only come here seeking knowledge. Things they would not teach me of, in college." Time to get your chops up, and I am here to help.

Is there something I've missed, sorry,I'd be happy to answer your questions to the best of my ability. On return we will all be dropped off at a centralised location with full media coverage, at least that is the plan. Audio and video equipment can be taken. It looks as though a film crew will be going back up after we come home to make a documentary! Serious. Then it's up to the ones who wish to get the word out to start putting the Data online for all to see. That's as far as I know anyway. Hope that is ok for you.

Peace and love always

Michael

have a listen to this link for all the final details http://www.counciloflove.com/2012channelings/020212grener.mp3

[tonius]

Rahkyt, The massage, intention, of my post, so there is no doubt about it, was only one: People, write whatever comes in your mind !

We are getting lost in words, i see you have already made up your mind for the meaning of what i wrote. I consider replying a kind af dialog, and as you saw i had something to say, sorry for that.
I tried to explain as well as i could so let me be more clear : YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TELL OTHERS HOW AND WHAT TO WRITE. You see, even if i am beeing so 'Negative' i am with this statement on YOUR side too, in the next post you can reply and SAY whatever you want , you can even report my negativity, and i will still respect it.

I would really have appreciated more a sincere reply from you ,just a 'F..uck you' ( sorry for the language) , rather than that same phrase, HIDDEN between others proverbs or fake kindnees. It was clear you had made up your mind too, than why not just say what you really FELT. I hope this time i was more precise.

[Billy]

Does that mean you are going to tease me? I'm perfectly aware that it is pretty unlikely, although something I would love to have take place. I would never pass up an opportunity like this one, just in case it is real! Because if it were, and I didn't go because I was afraid of being teased, then I really would feel foolish. Granted, I'll still feel foolish if it doesn't happen, but I won't regret giving it a chance.

ETM

Yes :clap2: Nothing gained, nothing lost, as they say

I give permission for the venture, :high5:

[etm567]

so to update, I am i correct in saying we have two Avalonians Confirmed for the journey. ETM and Cellardoor?

Yes, that's right although the confirmation comes when the list is posted, I have and I'm sure etm has finalised our names with the new account. Which will then be cross ref with the invitations given out. So not long till we know for absolute sure but it's safe to say we're in yes.

I can't speak for Ria though, If she could PM me that'd be great.

Not meaning to confuse anything any more, but... I did just transcribe part of another one of these sessions. And I did send that email in with my ful name in the subject line, to grener11@gmail.com, and I did get a confirmation from Steve, but that may be just because I was in communication with him about the transcript.

Grener did (as I have posted elsewhere, just a few minutes ago) agreed to take up two of Steve's friends tomorrow, so that they can come back with photos and confirm that this is real. Sounds good. I still am guardedly hopeful and tentatively very excited, but it is certainly best if we think positive thoughts! :) They will most likely pick us up in a black limousine.... (ha ha!) Or will it just look like a black limousine? Me, I'm seriously looking forward to the healing chambers, and wish my daughter would come along (as she is ill, too), but she is every bit as skeptical as the most skeptical here at Avalon, and will do no such thing.

We will all be returned together to a central, pre-approved location, where hopefully we will be met by some members of the press.

ETM

[Mark]

On return we will all be dropped off at a centralised location with full media coverage, at least that is the plan. Audio and video equipment can be taken. It looks as though a film crew will be going back up after we come home to make a documentary! Serious. Then it's up to the ones who wish to get the word out to start putting the Data online for all to see.

The plans themselves are amazing, I have to say. One thing is for sure, whatever happens, there is going to be quite the flurry of attention given to these events that will result in either increased interest or total disenchantment for those doing the watching. I admire the boldness of the endeavor and the confidence of those involved, considering the resistance from so many.

[cellardoor]

so to update, I am i correct in saying we have two Avalonians Confirmed for the journey. ETM and Cellardoor?

Yes, that's right although the confirmation comes when the list is posted, I have and I'm sure etm has finalised our names with the new account. Which will then be cross ref with the invitations given out. So not long till we know for absolute sure but it's safe to say we're in yes.

I can't speak for Ria though, If she could PM me that'd be great.

Not meaning to confuse anything any more, but... I did just transcribe part of another one of these sessions. And I did send that email in with my ful name in the subject line, to grener11@gmail.com, and I did get a confirmation from Steve, but that may be just because I was in communication with him about the transcript.

Grener did (as I have posted elsewhere, just a few minutes ago) agreed to take up two of Steve's friends tomorrow, so that they can come back with photos and confirm that this is real. Sounds good. I still am guardedly hopeful and tentatively very excited, but it is certainly best if we think positive thoughts! :) They will most likely pick us up in a black limousine.... (ha ha!) Or will it just look like a black limousine? Me, I'm seriously looking forward to the healing chambers, and wish my daughter would come along (as she is ill, too), but she is every bit as skeptical as the most skeptical here at Avalon, and will do no such thing.

We will all be returned together to a central, pre-approved location, where hopefully we will be met by some members of the press.

ETM

Hum I didn't get a confirmation and nether did two of my friends one who knows Steve quite well. I don't remember him saying any confirmations apart from the list which will be posted. But let me know if you find out please. Thanks allot.

[RMorgan]

On return we will all be dropped off at a centralised location with full media coverage, at least that is the plan. Audio and video equipment can be taken. It looks as though a film crew will be going back up after we come home to make a documentary! Serious. Then it's up to the ones who wish to get the word out to start putting the Data online for all to see.

The plans themselves are amazing, I have to say. One thing is for sure, whatever happens, there is going to be quite the flurry of attention given to these events that will result in either increased interest or total disenchantment for those doing the watching. I admire the boldness of the endeavor and the confidence of those involved, considering the resistance from so many.

I agree. These are very bold plans and claims. I also admire everyone who is ready to go on this supposed trip. It takes a lot of courage to go for a ride on an alien spacecraft.

This thing might be real. There´s a slight probability.

However, if this whole thing is proven to be a hoax or a scam, the perpetrators should be legally prosecuted. You know, it´s the only way to stop this torrential amount of hoaxes and scams in the alternative scene.

Cheers,

Raf.

[meat suit]

On return we will all be dropped off at a centralised location with full media coverage, at least that is the plan. Audio and video equipment can be taken. It looks as though a film crew will be going back up after we come home to make a documentary! Serious. Then it's up to the ones who wish to get the word out to start putting the Data online for all to see.

The plans themselves are amazing, I have to say. One thing is for sure, whatever happens, there is going to be quite the flurry of attention given to these events that will result in either increased interest or total disenchantment for those doing the watching. I admire the boldness of the endeavor and the confidence of those involved, considering the resistance from so many.

indeed!
I wonder what number of observers there will be to this by saturday night......maybe 100k worldwide?
what a make or break event.....or maybe this really is the 'critical mass generator event'

If this is real.....then this world changes forever within 2 days.......gasp ........

[etm567]

I sense that cellardoor has a pretty good sense that nothing may happen, and will not be emotionally crushed. I actually think it's pretty brave to even entertain the notion of being among the first jumping onto an alien vessel, voluntarily. I promise not to tease cellardoor or anyone else with a ticket, but on Feb 5th I think it is fair to start a discussion about just exactly why "someone" wants people to believe that aliens are going to solve our problems.

Dennis

Sorry to respond twice, but I just realized that I did not respond to something you said that I do think deserves a response. And that is "...I think it is fair to start a discussion about just exactly why 'someone' wants people to believe that aliens are going to solve our problems."

That is said over and over and over and over again. All channeled information is not the same. it does not all say the same thing. It does not all say that "the ETs are going to beam us up and save us," or that "the ETs are gonig to go away with the cabal," or that "the ETs are going to solve all of our problems for us." So, is that a straw man or a red herring? When you always make the same accusation, irrespective of what was said in this particular, specific case?

In fact, in this case, the point is quite the opposite: that some human beings, specifically Steve Beckow and some of his friends, decided to take it upon themselves to suggest this, so as to push disclosure from our end, rather than wait for our governments to do so or for our "space brothers and sisters" to land en masse on the White House lawn, which they are not going to do. It is an effort on the part of some human beings to bring some movement to the issue instead of sitting here and waiting for them to do something.

No tractor beam was ever promised or referred to by any of these channels. Maybe you have them mixed up with someone else? I perhaps am being a little grumpy, but honestly, the reaction that comes from so many is so incredibly predictable! You all say the same thing! As if everyone who ever channeled anything said the same thing! And they do not. Hmmmph. How about turning up your hearing aid? Or listening more carefully? Or reading more carefully? Or trying to make a distinction here or there, which I'm very sure you are more than capable of doing? No.

What is so confusing about this is that all of you on that side of the discussion, the reasonable, logical one, will point out that disinformation is deliberately planted for a number of reasons, one of which is to discredit people and channels. Why bother to discredit channels if none of them are creditable? If there is an effort to discredit them, then there must be some that are legitimate, no? If there are some that are legitimate, how do we tell which ones they are?

I know how I've gone about doing it for myself, and I have put some effort into it. So hold your fire before you accuse me of blindly accepting what any channel anywhere says, and think about giving a little credit now and then to efforts made by people like Steve Beckow (you might have to check him out before you could very fairly judge him), or even think about making some distinctions for yourself rather than tossing out a blanket condemnation. When it comes down to it, really, is there much difference between blanket condemnations and blanket acceptances? I think they are both faulty.

So, for about the tenth or twentieth time it feels like, no tractor beam, no beam me up, Scotty, no solving all my problems for me or for all of mankind. Something else, something different. Could be, couldn't it?

ETM

[Camilo]

Yeah right!......gimme a break!.... you guys are so deluded. Have a nice trip!

[Seikou-Kishi]

We’ll be returned on Feb. 14 (or sooner if people have other obligations)."

Lol, I'm sorry but what is it these people think would trump being taken to a different planet for ten days?

"Oh yes, I'd love to visit your homeworld, but I'll not stay long because there's some wet paint I really must watch dry."

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

Serious people?

Is this another exercise in Charles like?

Why are there so many gullible and weak willed people falling for this?

Oh and I believe many strange and wonderful things - but c'mon you got to be joking.

[Cidersomerset]

'Brilliant'..... we may have three 'Avalonauts'.......I know very little of the 'Galactic council' but I believe they are connected to the Plaiedians.??

Now I strongly resonate with the Billy Meier case, so from that i hope this is genuine and you have a great time and I wish i was going as well...

http://www.welcomethelight.com/wp-content/uploads/lightshippic.jpg

Good luck CellerDoor ,Etm567 and Ria if you end up going......and I reiterate most

peoples request...Please bring back unquestionable proof that you went.....

Great opportunity ....Steve

[gripreaper]

The implications of this, if real, are staggering. No more elite paradigm of trying to rally the planet into one world government against evil ET's, no more BS about stellar technology not being available to us and fossil fuel technology being at the pinnacle, no more religious indoctrination about earth humans being gods chosen people and the only one's in the universe, no more lies from the secret government.

The news outlets are going to be hounding you for interviews, details, confirmations, etc. Your life will never be the same,and neither will ours.

You should bring back an interstellar and galactic treaty from the Senior Federation Council leaders which outlines in a document what the intention and agreement should be between the two parties outlining the ongoing guidelines of the relationship. This should be approved by at least two thirds of the participants in both parties and endorsed, documented, and witnessed by the Great Central Sun Council, as well as the Plieadian and Sirian Councils, or any other councils whose interest in such an agreement would be breached without full disclosure and voted upon with a ballot measure.

Then, you should still do a "fly over" the Super Bowl so there is no doubt in anyone's mind that this is the unveiling and opening for truth to unfold in all the hidden sectors and disciplines of the planet and their controllers.

[Cognitive Dissident]

It's funny because I always thought Steve Beckow was such a thoughtful commentator and would never fall for something like this.
Some predictions from me on this:

1) Nothing will happen, no space trips on 4 February (unfortunately!)
2) Steve will provide sincere and humble apologies and stop posting...
3) ... for about 3-6 months, after which time he will pick up on some thing beginning which is really important and metaphysical, which is getting ready to happen on 21 December 2012...

Like I said, amazing, as Steve was always talking about discernment and vasanas. For sure, something is pulling his strings, that he is not even aware of, here.

[WhiteFeather]

I will be on the second voyage, not enough time to inform my insignificant other. Patience is a virtue. I will wait till they return from the maiden voyage.

[cellardoor]

The implications of this, if real, are staggering. No more elite paradigm of trying to rally the planet into one world government against evil ET's, no more BS about stellar technology not being available to us and fossil fuel technology being at the pinnacle, no more religious indoctrination about earth humans being gods chosen people and the only one's in the universe, no more lies from the secret government.

The news outlets are going to be hounding you for interviews, details, confirmations, etc. Your life will never be the same,and neither will ours.

It's gonna be a circus thats for sure. But it's a move that could blow the cabal away like dust in the wind, which is one of my main motivations for doing this. I am completely sincere when I say that every second that passes is a tragedy under the rule of these tyrants, that my heart bleeds for the poor impoverished souls who suffer needlessly so that some old men can feed their lust, I find it repugnant and more unbearable by the day. Something needs to happen right? We light workers have been searching for the answers just like everyone of you, this is our attempt and hope that love is much, much stronger than fear could ever be. I just pray that we're right. And I thank everyone for being so understanding.

Namaste

[Limor Wolf]

In continuation to my post #210

Well,I am lately not allowed to finish my posts,and they are mysteriously 'sending' themselvs on their own,I am not even allowed to edit them.how interesting :)

I will persistently plead to all participating members here,that are much fond of channeling to at least listen to the question arised by Marshal Vian summers relating to the ET contacts,you awe yourselvs and everyone else that much.The complete fantasy that THEY will come and take us away for a nice around the galaxy trip is not so bothering to me as the fact that some here are willing to take this step,without making any assesment,without considering all the implications involved,with plenty of willingness on your behalf to GIVE your power away.

To be quite honest,dear fellow Avalon members,I wish I was capable of Ilie's sense of humor right now,but this thread actually makes me sad.my feelings are that it will not be the Charles's and the psyops of the world that have the potential to take this forum down,no,they actually can't.the only one's that can,are us.and trusting by this thread,this is becoming a possibility..why the harsh words,you ask?,Well,because by judging some of the responses here,there is no 'lets stop and reflect',what actually are the consequences for such an act - to volunteer and go on a craft,May I ask,why are you so willing to submit yourself to those that you know nothing about,not even the smallest detail on them or more importantly towords their real Agenda on earth, besides whatever it is they delivere to us via channels.If we are considered (at least by ourselvs) to be an inteligent people,and if we demand (and rightly so) to see proof and credentials from any whistleblower who dares to try and put out some information,yet we require nothing from the so called ET's ,Is it not considered a double standard? are you actually thinking it through? are'nt you letting your hopes and emotions lead the way? of course,they might be our lovely saviors,well,there is nothing wrong with getting a tip here and there,but we MUST try and make ammends ourselvs,otherwise we will pay dearly.

As a sort of contactee myself,let me share some insights with you- A- we are being supported by those who do not consider intervening,they whisper on our ears and assist us with knowledge and supplying possibilities to wich its upon us to decide how to act. they do not physically intervene at this point,knowing that we dont know,and can not make any smart decisions at this time (and I believe we are proving it once and again..) B- what will be the use if we will get rid of the PTB only to submit ourself and this precious earth to yet another controled/decision making system wich is not us. Is that what we came here to do? Is this how we want things to develop?

When the time will come,and I am sure to say,it will not be this week- the 4th of february ! We better try and start response to any initiated contact with following negotiations,after we are having a more or less organized picture of what we as earthlings want to achieve,what are our goals,what are our limits,where do we draw the line and believe me,all this can be done with greetings and a smile. we need to be able to refuse the contact if its not spiritually oriented enough,as as we all know and feel,that the earth and its inhabitants are to develop a higher state of consciousness,safe to assume,a higher state of technology as well,but that is the secondary 'side effect',all I am asking of you is to please hold your horses! dont jump so fast.By all means,be willing for an off world contact,but not with giving up on your rights,on your freedom...it was done in 1954 by Eisenhower and it was a grave mistake,now,it seems those decisions will not be done by any government,but by the people,or shall we say,some people. Dear friends,YOU are not doing Avalon forum ,or on a larger scale our earth society any favor. First - you believe such non-sense as this type of announcment, second- you are willing to leave your common sense aside while attempting to go cruising on the 'Concordia spaceship'... not even knowing the Captains name,or his intended itinerary (but why is that important,right?),and third - you are improvising without any consolidated plan.Now ,that does not sound promising,is it?

However,to all the Blossom Goodchilds,I wish with all sincerety all the very best of luck,your learning will be soewhat painfull,but essensial,maybe we all learn this lesson together,but I personally wish us to think a couple of steps ahead,there is so very much that is on the line.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_4O4duEPP0&feature=related


With care

~*&^~*&^

Limor

[WhiteFeather]

I agree,,,,We all incarnated here for a purpose, please try to remember the original mission. Hint: Assisting Mother Earth on her new transformational shift. And lets hurry, i want to go back to my home planet ASAP. I have 10 kids that miss me very dearly there.

[cellardoor]

In continuation to my post #210

Well,I am lately not aloud to finish my posts,and they are mysteriously 'sending' themselvs on their own,I am not even aloud to edit them.how interesting :)

I will persistently plead to all participating members here,that are much fond of channeling to at least listen to the question arised by Marshal Vian summers relating to the ET contacts,you awe yourselvs and everyone else that much.The complete fantasy that THEY will come and take us away for a nice around the galaxy trip is not so bothering to me as the fact that some here are willing to take this step,without making any assesment,without considering all the implications involved,with plenty of willingness on your behalf to GIVE your power away.

To be quite honest,dear fellow Avalon members,I wish I was capable of Ilie's sense of humor right now,but this thread actually makes me sad.my feelings are that it will not be the Charles's and the psyops of the world that have the potential to take this forum down,no,they actually can't.the only one's that can,are us.and trusting by this thread,this is becoming a possible timeline..why the harsh words,you ask?,Well,because by judging some of the responses here,there is no 'lets stop and reflect',what actually are the consequences for such an act - to volunteer and go on a craft,May I ask,why are you so willing to submit yourself to those that you know nothing about,not even the smallest detail on them or more importantly towords their real Agenda on earth, besides whatever it is they delivere to us via channels.If we are considered (at least by ourselvs) to be an inteligent people,and if we demand (and rightly so) to see proof and credentials from any whistleblower who dares to try and put out some information,yet we require nothing from the so called ET's ,Is it not considered a double standard? are you actually thinking it through? are'nt you letting your hopes and emotions lead the way? of course,they might be our lovely saviours,well,there is nothing wrong with getting a tip here and there,but we MUST try and make ammends ourselvs,otherwise we will pay dearly.

As a sort of contactee myself,let me share some insights with you- A- we are being supported by those who do not consider intervening,they whisper on our ears and assist us with knowledge and supplying possibilities to wich its upon us to decide how to act. they do not physically intervene at this point,knowing that we dont know,and can not make any smart decisions at this time (and I believe we are proving it once and again..) B- what will be the use if we will get rid of the PTB only to submit ourself and this precious earth to yet another controled/decision making system wich is not us. Is that what we came here to do? Is this how we want things to develop?

When the time will come,and I am sure to say,it will not be this week- the 4th of february ! We better try and start response to any initiated contact with following negotiations,after we are having a more or less organized picture of what we as earthlings want to achieve,what are our goals,what are our limits,where do we draw the line and believe me,all this can be done with greetings and a smiles. we need to be able to refuse the contact if its not spiritually oriented enough,as as we all know and feel,that the earth and its inhabitants are to develop a higher state of consciousness,safe to assume,a higher state of technology as well,but that is the secondary 'side effect',all I am asking of you is to please hold your horses! dont jump so fast.By all means,be willing for an off world contact,but not with giving up on your rights,on your freedom...it was done in 1954 by Eisenhower and it was a grave mistake,now,it seems those decisions will not be done by any government,but by the people,or shall we say,some people. Dear friends,YOU are not doing Avalon forum ,or on a larger scale our earth society any favor. First - you believe such non-sense as this type of announcment, second- you are willing to leave your common sense aside while attempting to go cruising on the 'Concordia spaceship'... not even knowing the Captains name,or his intended itinerary (but why is that important,right?),and third - you are improvising without any consolidated plan.Now ,thats not sounds promising,is it?

However,to all the Blossom Goodchilds,I wish with all sincerety all the very best of luck,your learning will be soewhat painfull,but essensial,maybe we all learn this lesson together,but I personally wish us to think a couple of steps ahead,there is so very much that is on the line.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_4O4duEPP0&feature=related


With care

~*&^~*&^

Limor

Let me ask you this. If the benevolents do not intervene, why did they take Bill and change his time line so that we can be sitting here now having this conversation? Why have they shut down missile silos? Why do we have so many positive contactees? And why do people like Bob Dean say, there are good guys out there, do not worry your children are going to the stars?
In my opinion Summers is pushing the very same agenda as Hollywood. Fear. I've taken his view into account just like George K, in fact I've seen most of the PA back catalog and I'm still going with a smile on my face. I am not afraid, fear is a 3d construct, one of the most dense emotions. I know in my heart there is good out there. And my heart is the only real thing I listen to. I have thought long and hard about this and covered all the bases and I can assure you I have done my homework.

[aranuk]

Hello, this is my first post. It's been interesting just lurking and getting to know you. I have been following this thread with great interest because I have been reading Steve's articles for ages. An interesting thought just popped in. In astrology, Neptune is known as the planet of confusion, illusion and delusion. Hmmmmm?

Ginnik you only mentioned the negative side of Neptune. Why? You're obviously not an astrologer I can tell. Perhaps you can tell us of the positive keywords for Neptune.


After you respond Sir, I will let you in on a few secrets of Astrology you are not aware of.

Stan

[etm567]

Everyone has the right to ask questions. Our spiritual teachers tell us so. If we are being scolded for asking sincere questions, then, that is what worries me the most. Are some of them stupid questions? Perhaps. Having lived in a foreign country for years, I understand (and have witnessed) lack of respect of other cultures. Questions are not necessarily the act of confronting others with our personal beliefs. It's more like a Please give me more info. We do have the right to ask bold and broad questions, do we not? If questions are causing negative reactions in those being questioned, then that is something we should also examine. If loving light beings are truly that, they know that seeking further info is not the same as proselytizing one's own belief structure. That is the continuation of duality thinking. Respect is earned. Those who think that questions are an attack, are misunderstanding. If an archangel is truly an archangel, they will welcome all inquiries. How is it minimizing other beliefs to simply not know, and to ask? Respectfully.

I absolutely agree with you. But there seems to be something else going on a great deal of the time beyond people simply asking questions. SOmehow, most of them seem to have an element of ridicule, or of flabbergastedness, or seem to imply: What is wrong with you, that you would go along with this? Just what kind of fool are you?"

And then there's this:

"Oh, but you might cause some of your foolishness to rub off on us 'legitimate contactees!' That's not fair!

Personally, I think Rakhyt is making a fine point. If byou don't approve, say, "I don't approve," but then add "of couse, you must do as you choose," without pre-judging it. But no, there are judgments from one end of this thread to the other, implying a number of things, none of them ... respectable? All with some negative connotations. And that is why people say, why must you be so negative? Why must you judge, if you disagree?

I agree with that. Why can't you disagree without judging me? Why can't you just say you don't agree? Or say why you would choose what you would for yourself, without taking it upon yourself to speak about what someone else is choosing to do or not to do, for themselves? It is, after all, up to each one of us individually, and there is no need for other people to do what you think best. Is there? I mean, it is at least possible that you are mistaken, isn't it? Or are you omniscient in some way?

Sorry, I'm getting grumpier and grumpier. Obviously I have a very long way to go.... and to grow....

ETM

[etm567]

Hello, this is my first post. It's been interesting just lurking and getting to know you. I have been following this thread with great interest because I have been reading Steve's articles for ages. An interesting thought just popped in. In astrology, Neptune is known as the planet of confusion, illusion and delusion. Hmmmmm?

Ginnik you only mentioned the negative side of Neptune. Why? You're obviously not an astrologer I can tell. Perhaps you can tell us of the positive keywords for Neptune.

It is also very psychic and visionary -- two sides of the same coin? I don't think people get to be visionary without risking something, actually. At the very least, ridicule.

ETM

[etm567]

Hum I didn't get a confirmation and nether did two of my friends one who knows Steve quite well. I don't remember him saying any confirmations apart from the list which will be posted. But let me know if you find out please. Thanks allot.

I probably only got it because I was exchanging emails with him anyway.

Did you see if they ever put that list up? Although Grener seems to say it isn't important? But then again he said it was. Right now, I'm confused and cooking dinner. this thread is too long, and I have a feeling I am responding hours behind...

ETM

[cellardoor]

Hum I didn't get a confirmation and nether did two of my friends one who knows Steve quite well. I don't remember him saying any confirmations apart from the list which will be posted. But let me know if you find out please. Thanks allot.

I probably only got it because I was exchanging emails with him anyway.

Did you see if they ever put that list up? Although Grener seems to say it isn't important? But then again he said it was. Right now, I'm confused and cooking dinner. this thread is too long, and I have a feeling I am responding hours behind...

ETM

I see... no I haven't seen the list yet. My girlfriend just freaked out when I mentioned a black Limo. But what can I say? 'Oh it's ok cause I've read it in a channel'. Lol, just doesn't cut the mustard. Ah well, it might be worth it. Enjoy your meal. What you havin? I'm a chef. Could give you a few tips:)

[etm567]

In continuation to my post #210

Well,I am lately not aloud to finish my posts,and they are mysteriously 'sending' themselvs on their own,I am not even aloud to edit them.how interesting :)

I will persistently plead to all participating members here,that are much fond of channeling to at least listen to the question arised by Marshal Vian summers relating to the ET contacts,you awe yourselvs and everyone else that much.The complete fantasy that THEY will come and take us away for a nice around the galaxy trip is not so bothering to me as the fact that some here are willing to take this step,without making any assesment,without considering all the implications involved,with plenty of willingness on your behalf to GIVE your power away.

To be quite honest,dear fellow Avalon members,I wish I was capable of Ilie's sense of humor right now,but this thread actually makes me sad.my feelings are that it will not be the Charles's and the psyops of the world that have the potential to take this forum down,no,they actually can't.the only one's that can,are us.and trusting by this thread,this is becoming a possible timeline..why the harsh words,you ask?,

Limor

I have indeed listened to MV Summers, and given it much consideration. Why is there always an assumption that we who say yes are uninformed, not thoughtful, or intellectually challenged?

I think MV Summers is probably being used by the bad guys. He will convince you to be afraid of the good guys, who are not right here, who are out there. Now, if and when those guys come, if you trust Mr. Summers, you will think they are evil and are out to eat your soul. And you will, or may, turn to the bad guys here on Earth who would love to have you ask them for protection. And they will certainly promise to protect you. No problem. And they, my friend, seriously want only to keep you enslaved, as you have been, right here on Earth.

I think that is perfectly clear. I could provide more reasons, or what my reasons are, but I am tired of the argument. I am not an idiot. I think. I make choices. I read a whole lot. Why so many of you fancy yourselves so splendidly more intelligent or perceptive or reasonable I cannot fathom. But please, please yourself. Do what you choose. Do not ask me to go along with Marshall Vian Summers, I do not want to remain in slavery here on Earth any more. I'm sure his intentions are good. But I think he is misguided.

So, thank you for your input, but respectfully, I must disagree.

ETM

(Grumpier and grumpier.... Sorry.)

[Limor Wolf]

Originally posted by Cellardoor:"Let me ask you this. If the benevolents do not intervene, why did they take Bill and change his time line so that we can be sitting here now having this conversation? Why have they shut down missile silos? Why do we have so many positive contactees? And why do people like Bob Dean say, there are good guys out there, do not worry your children are going to the stars? In my opinion Summers is pushing the very same agenda as Hollywood. Fear. I've taken his view into account just like George K, in fact I've seen most of the PA back catalog and I'm still going with a smile on my face. I am not afraid, fear is a 3d construct, one of the most dense emotions. I know in my heart there is good out there. And my heart is the only real thing I listen to. I have thought long and hard about this and covered all the bases and I can assure you I have done my homework. "

Cellardoor,you and I ,we are the likes.we share the same hopes,we wish for the same goals,we have pretty much similar aspirations.In a way,I find your naivety charming.no disrespect .You claim to have made your homework,yet,at the same time you say that 'they' have changed the timeline on earth,well,they did not.we did.please think long and hard if the concerned voices around here are giving our responses the way we do because of fear or negativity or because of holding a more full perspective. There is lots of good out there,and there is also the usual playing interests,just as we have here. I will not tell you what to think,or how to act,but I do say outloud that I have expected from Avalon members a much more rational and mind critical assesment on any information being thrown at us at this time.my bad.

[kersley]

Only hit dogs bark. I addressed a general trend here on PA that I highlighted on this thread. If you are among those who felt like you had to respond to my post, then perhaps you need to address your inner feelings about your response, and why you think that my post was directed at you.

Its great and fine to ask questions and have them answered. More power to you all. But sometimes, when folks ask questions they don't really care what the answer is because they already think they know so their question is really a setup to state their own opinions and possible disbelief. Again, if you are questioning in the spirit of really finding out the answer, that is wonderful, awesome, great. I'm sure those who are going and those who believe that it is possible to go are quite willing to answer your questions if they are respectful and friendly. If not, then there is something that came across in your writing and apparent intentions that displays something else entirely.

After reading your post here on this thread, I have to admit I'm one of those you mentioned.
I feel hurt, sad and shame.. I am excited about this news, All this talk lately about how we are creators, how we are powerful beings, how our DNA is changing, How is this world going be a better place if all we do is debunk others?
The government is doing a fantastic job at this, why are we helping them? I can see the Bush, Rothschild's, and the rest sitting there watching us on Avalon with pathetic grin on their faces, saying, they're not buying it, so it's not going to happen.. Why don't we believe and make it happen? Our thoughts create our reality right? I am very ashamed of myself..
Thank you for bringing me back to where I should be..

[etm567]

I'm very sorry, but I cannot begin to figure out what this means:


Sometimes hit dogs bark, and sometimes there are defenders of those dogs. I must be one of those. Everyone has the right to ask and everyone has the right, I 'm thinking, to attempt to hide their personal agendas within those questions. When we see the agenda, we see the area that needs tuning.

I believe you have the right to ask any sincere questions you want. At this point, down at this end of the thread, I'm not looking at any straightforward questions from you (I don't mean to imply there are not any, but I do not see them here, and the thread is so long I do not know if they are there earlier or not), but I am responding to a lot of semi-hysterical pleas from all those who fancy themselves smarter, wiser and better informed to consider all the harm I may be doing.


I am defending the right to ask, even and especially, any negative question and for the moment, even those people who do so. Hah! Maybe that's my agenda.

Sorry, I still don't understand what you mean. YOu say you have the right to question sincerely. Of course you do. I don't think sincere questions provoke a reaction from most people. But there's lots of other stuff on this thread.... And I'm not at all sure the people who are doing that are even aware of it.

So, I'm going away now before I make myself into a real ... nasty word? I'm tired. I'm looking forward to this trip, if it happens, and if you don't like that, don't go!

Good night.

ETM

[cellardoor]

Originally posted by Cellardoor:"Let me ask you this. If the benevolents do not intervene, why did they take Bill and change his time line so that we can be sitting here now having this conversation? Why have they shut down missile silos? Why do we have so many positive contactees? And why do people like Bob Dean say, there are good guys out there, do not worry your children are going to the stars?
In my opinion Summers is pushing the very same agenda as Hollywood. Fear. I've taken his view into account just like George K, in fact I've seen most of the PA back catalog and I'm still going with a smile on my face. I am not afraid, fear is a 3d construct, one of the most dense emotions. I know in my heart there is good out there. And my heart is the only real thing I listen to. I have thought long and hard about this and covered all the bases and I can assure you I have done my homework. "

Cellardoor,you and I ,we are the likes.we share the same hopes,we wish for the same goals,we have pretty much similar aspirations.In a way,I find your naivete charming.no disrespect intended.You claim to have made your homework,yet,at the same time you say that 'they' have changed the timeline on earth,well,they did not.we did.please think long and hard if our other voices around here like mine are giving our responses the way we do because of fear or general negativity or because of holding a more complete perspective.
There is lots of good out there,and there is also the usual playing interests,just as we have here.
I will not tell you all what to think,or how to act,but I do tell outloud that I have expected from Avalon members a much more rational and mind critical assesment on any information being thrown at us at this time.my bad.

Thanks for correcting me about Bill Limor your absolutely right, but one would not exist without the other, it is a joint effort, just like this venture. but it was not humans who shut down the missiles was it? There most defiantly is or has been negative races involved with us. I do not deny that, what I rely on is my inner guidance and I strongly feel I am safe as do all the other participants involved. And yes I have done allot of homework, if I am still perceived as wet behind the ears because I do not listen to the drivel coming from Summers mouth so be it. I'm happy with that at least.

[BlueGem]

all I can say about this topic is this:

those who might feel jealous or sceptical about the people who say they're going... that's just what you need to do.
those who might feel a sense of entitlement or recognition about this.. that's just what you need to do.

whatever the reasons you yourself feel most comfortable with justifying what happens in your life, accept them.

[Erich]

"legitimate personal Contact"? And with a capital, C. Wow. All of these letters and accountability and valid this and that, even insults- much more frightening/disturbing to me than anything else....