If members have not already done this.........

[Tuza]

I calmly suggest maybe tottering over to PC and looking at Kerry's Blog. Dated 7 July there is a letter from an Australian source that has me quite stunned at the moment, except for the part where he subtley mentions that he hopes the guys with the auto correct technology steps in one more time to help us out.

Yes so do I, I have been saying for a while when they are allowed they have been pulling us out of the ****e.

[Elandiel BernElve]

Damn... this is big if there's truth in it, it's definately scary, even more scary is my intuition not telling me this is complete bs... thanks for the lead Tuza

We definately are still missing links and clear explanations about the massive military logistics and movement around the world....

Makes me wonder whether all those soldiers are really want to go to die for the problably insane reasons they will be asked to fight for?

[Bill Ryan]

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Please see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3980-Confusion-Reigns&p=35505&viewfull=1#post35505) on the thread CONFUSION REIGNS (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3980-Confusion-Reigns).

[blue777]

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Please see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3980-Confusion-Reigns&p=35505&viewfull=1#post35505) on the thread CONFUSION REIGNS (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3980-Confusion-Reigns).

Confusion definately Reigns, Whom do we believe?......Insanity will create massive suffering because it has no bounderies it is linked to the Abyss, therefore what is going to stop this insanity unless we change into a species in reality to a higher consciousness and corporeal bodies..meaning nothing in 3D will hurt us...and how is that going to be done?.......anyone have a clue....?
blue

[Teakai]

Confusion definately Reigns, Whom do we believe?......Insanity will create massive suffering because it has no bounderies it is linked to the Abyss, therefore what is going to stop this insanity unless we change into a species in reality to a higher consciousness and corporeal bodies..meaning nothing in 3D will hurt us...and how is that going to be done?.......anyone have a clue....?
blue

Hi Blue777, I'm not at all religious, in fact, if I could give it the time of day, I'd be anti-religion, but the answer to this is in the bible. "Put death beneath your feet". Until you can do that, you will live in fear. And fear is about ego and ego is about low vibrational frequency.

[Lost Soul]

Thank you Bill.

[blue777]

Hi Blue777, I'm not at all religious, in fact, if I could give it the time of day, I'd be anti-religion, but the answer to this is in the bible. "Put death beneath your feet". Until you can do that, you will live in fear. And fear is about ego and ego is about low vibrational frequency.

Hello Teaki
Are you saying Kerry is living in fear...she sees the oil spill scenario as armageddon Bill does not ,who is right?
everyone on the EARTH suffers from ego and fear, therefore we have to conquer FEAR AND THE EGO how do we negate something which is at the atomic level.
lol
blue

[Phil]

Hello Everyone, please forgive me I am very new at this.:eek:

I too have seen and read the information that Kerry and Bill have presented about the Oil Spill, and found the letter from the Australian whistleblower astonishing, But! I also find myself in a situation that I have found myself in many times before, who is telling the facts as they appear and NOT there interpretation of the truth, I don't want to sound like I am casting doubt on what Bill and Kerry and others have stated. I feel that these are pieces of the Huge Puzzle (Gulf Oil Spill).
I suppose the real truth will come to the surface after the pressure tests have completed :confused:

[blue777]

Hello Everyone, please forgive me I am very new at this.:eek:

I too have seen and read the information that Kerry and Bill have presented about the Oil Spill, and found the letter from the Australian whistleblower astonishing, But! I also find myself in a situation that I have found myself in many times before, who is telling the facts as they appear and NOT there interpretation of the truth, I don't want to sound like I am casting doubt on what Bill and Kerry and others have stated. I feel that these are pieces of the Huge Puzzle (Gulf Oil Spill).
I suppose the real truth will come to the surface after the pressure tests have completed :confused:

Hello Phil
therefore who is telling the truth Kerry or Bill?
lol
blue

[shiva777]

as with ALL ISSUES ...Bill and Kerry are NOT experts on any issue and their discernment has been proven to be very poor in so many issues....why give them so much credit?...they are no more awake than most others,often the more "whistleblower" or "insider"
info people get,the more confused and disoriented they become..as always it's about tuning in to your own inner guidance and your ability to do so is worth more than a million "insider" sources or "expert" info..,.as far as the oil spill issue goes..one "expert" says this,another says that..who we choose to listen to or who resonates with us is UP TO US.

I,for one,am not concerniong myself with flooding my conciousness with oil spill theories...best to remain NEUTRAL on these types of issues and in that NEUTRALITY I am not adding to the psychic pollution created by this oil spill trigger event that is aimed at distracting people and bringing down their frequency

Ask yourself,is my being distracted and freaked out by this oil spill situation helping the situation or raising the mass conciousness or is it just a pointless distraction and another method for TPTB to lower humanities frequency?...

[blue777]

as with ALL ISSUES ...Bill and Kerry are NOT experts on any issue and their discernment has been proven to be very poor in so many issues....why give them so much credit?...they are no more awake than most others,often the more "whistleblower" or "insider"
info people get,the more confused and disoriented they become..as always it's about tuning in to your own inner guidance and your ability to do so is worth more than a million "insider" sources or "expert" info..,.as far as the oil spill issue goes..one "expert" says this,another says that..who we choose to listen to or who resonates with us is UP TO US.

I,for one,am not concerniong myself with flooding my conciousness with oil spill theories...best to remain NEUTRAL on these types of issues and in that NEUTRALITY I am not adding to the psychic pollution created by this oil spill trigger event that is aimed at distracting people and bringing down their frequency

Ask yourself,is my being distracted and freaked out by this oil spill situation helping the situation or raising the mass conciousness or is it just a pointless distraction and another method for TPTB to lower humanities frequency?...

quote: Bill and Kerry are NOT experts on any issue and their discernment has been proven to be very poor in so many issues....why give them so much credit?...they are no more awake than most others,often the more "whistleblower" or "insider"
info people get,the more confused and disoriented they become..as always it's about tuning in to your own inner guidance and your ability to do so is worth more than a million "insider" sources or "expert" info..,.as far as the oil spill issue goes..one "expert" says this,another says that..who we choose to listen to or who resonates with us is UP TO US.

The problem here is if they have not the truth who has? ...also have they stopped listening to people.....is that pride or ego?

[Bill Ryan]

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What happens is that many people in the alternative community KNOW in their hearts and bones that there is something very badly wrong on Planet Earth.

But: they DON'T know exactly what that is, and in their passion and zeal they sometimes seize on the wrong thing. They pick up totally the wrong ball, and start running with it as fast as they can.

The controllers, understanding this mechanism perfectly, are quite delighted to provide wrong balls for us to run with.

That's why we have to be smarter than we sometimes are.

[Kikine]

as with ALL ISSUES ...Bill and Kerry are NOT experts on any issue and their discernment has been proven to be very poor in so many issues....why give them so much credit?...they are no more awake than most others,often the more "whistleblower" or "insider"
info people get,the more confused and disoriented they become..as always it's about tuning in to your own inner guidance and your ability to do so is worth more than a million "insider" sources or "expert" info..,.as far as the oil spill issue goes..one "expert" says this,another says that..who we choose to listen to or who resonates with us is UP TO US.

I,for one,am not concerniong myself with flooding my conciousness with oil spill theories...best to remain NEUTRAL on these types of issues and in that NEUTRALITY I am not adding to the psychic pollution created by this oil spill trigger event that is aimed at distracting people and bringing down their frequency

Ask yourself,is my being distracted and freaked out by this oil spill situation helping the situation or raising the mass conciousness or is it just a pointless distraction and another method for TPTB to lower humanities frequency?...

I agree with you! :) we have to follow what resonate with us, not follow a ''leader''. And yes, it's better to stay neutral and not lower our frequencies with that event. Doesn't mean we do not have to do something about it.

[blue777]

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What happens is that many people in the alternative community KNOW in their hearts and bones that there is something very badly wrong on Planet Earth.

But: they DON'T know exactly what that is, and in their passion and zeal they sometimes seize on the wrong thing. They pick up totally the wrong ball, and start running with it as fast as they can.

The controllers, understanding this mechanism perfectly, are quite delighted to provide wrong balls for us to run with.

That's why we have to be smarter than we sometimes are.

Kerry on her video from SOUTH AFRICA said that we are going into an Armageddon scenario,ring of fire etc......chaos...however you Bill disagree , is this a private battle or do you not trust her info?......
regards

[Fredkc]

First of all, I don't recall Bill asking, offering, or pretending to lead anyone anywhere.

In fact, his most consistent answer to this kind of thing is usually for people to read the info, and make up their own minds.

[Ross]

People...Bill Ryan is one of the few that does diligent homework, He is one that uses logic, sensibility and intelligence. This Man has been around far more than most here. He is experienced in many feilds and totally understands the position of dis-info. He like most of us can at times get it wrong and with all due credit, he is the first to see the trappings and 'caught upness' when engaging in info such as the OIL spill and the like. We are very fortunate to have him here to help with discernment issues and info.

This is a world plagued with b/s, riddled with dis-info, fully working on our weakness, our fear, our dupeness our seperation. I for one am grateful for all the work both Bill and Kerry have done. They are like us, trying to make sense of this world, the big questions...they are human beings! give them some credit, they deserve it!

Ross

[greybeard]

I have the greatest respect for the integrity of Bill. What you see is what you get.
Of course he isent an expert
An expert Is a "Has been drip under pressure" = ex spurt. Laughing
Bill is no " has been, by any definition, he does his best to bring up to the minute info
And I value his opinion though not necessarily agreeing with it.
When he is mistaken he is quick to admit it, some others have a problem with doing that.
I am indebted to him for this forum where I have made great friends, fellow travelers, that I would not have met otherwise.
A great saying is "live and let live"
I think it is the hight of ignorance and bad manners to be critical of some one who is providing a free facility that we enjoy.
Sometimes I think it is best when we have a criticism of our host to just let it go.
Bill is very patient with us all even those who break the forum rules.
We could not ask for a better host and Senior Moderator in my humble opinion.
Regards and respect for all diverse opinions
Chris

[Fredkc]

Hey Chris!

Expert: (n.) Any jerk more than 50 miles from home, with a briefcase in his hand. ;)

[greybeard]

Hey Chris!

Expert: (n.) Any jerk more than 50 miles from home, with a briefcase in his hand. ;)

You never fail to amuse me my friend and fellow sailor.
Chris

[Tuza]

I was just wondering that source from oz who sent the letter could/maybe/might be outback Jack. Mmmmh. :confused: Not sure of course.

[Kikine]

euh, i do not think it was said in that sense...the intention was not to attack someone according to me and im actually surprised by some reply. anyway, it shows how interpretations can change from one person to another!

[yiolas]

I have the greatest respect for the integrity of Bill. What you see is what you get.
Of course he isent an expert
An expert Is a "Has been drip under pressure" = ex spurt. Laughing
Bill is no " has been, by any definition, he does his best to bring up to the minute info
And I value his opinion though not necessarily agreeing with it.
When he is mistaken he is quick to admit it, some others have a problem with doing that.
I am indebted to him for this forum where I have made great friends, fellow travelers, that I would not have met otherwise.
A great saying is "live and let live"
I think it is the hight of ignorance and bad manners to be critical of some one who is providing a free facility that we enjoy.
Sometimes I think it is best when we have a criticism of our host to just let it go.
Bill is very patient with us all even those who break the forum rules.
We could not ask for a better host and Senior Moderator in my humble opinion.
Regards and respect for all diverse opinions
Chris

Chris, you never fail to amaze me with your wisdom and eloquence . Thank-you for putting things in order. As usual you said everything I would have said but only better.

Furthermore, regarding the Kerry vs Bill thing. I don't believe in the either or thing. Both have their own views. The important thing is that they are both contributing to our awakening process in a very public way. That takes a lot of courage. All of the information that they have given us are little seeds, each person can decide if they want to plant them in their own garden or not.

[Teakai]

Hello Teaki
Are you saying Kerry is living in fear...she sees the oil spill scenario as armageddon Bill does not ,who is right?
everyone on the EARTH suffers from ego and fear, therefore we have to conquer FEAR AND THE EGO how do we negate something which is at the atomic level.
lol
blue

Hi Blue 777.
I'm not saying that Kerry is living in fear.
Kerry may well be able to discuss the possibility of certain scenarios without being sucked down into the fear that might be aroused in other people.

Kerry may be right or Bill may be right, the point is that if it's going to happen - it's going to happen.
To live in fear of whether it will or whether it won't is going to keep a person locked into a lower vibration frequency.
It's an ego/primitive brain survival response. Which is all well and good when it's called upon for survival, but when one sits in fear and dread of what 'might' happen, then it's harmful and damaging and of a very low frequency.
This is what we have to awaken from to see the reality of who we really are. We are not our ego, our ego does not tell us the truth - it only has its own limited perspective of what is truth and that truth is all about ego survival.


Also, as a matter of interest, armegeddon means 'great awakening'.

[Steven]

as with ALL ISSUES ...Bill and Kerry are NOT experts on any issue and their discernment has been proven to be very poor in so many issues....why give them so much credit?...they are no more awake than most others...

This is obviously the result of frustration and a lack of awareness. If you were aware of the tremendous positive impact in the field of consciousness these two wonderful beings have done to humanity, you certainly wouldn't express this thought. They are different, human and certainly dedicated to their work. I don't agree with everything they say and it is just fine. I enjoy their work and especially Bill's presence here. I told him once and say it again, Bill brings coherence, leadership and a load of incredible information to share, it is so valuable, more than a mountain of gold.

Namaste, Steven

[PHARAOH]

Bill and Kerry are balancing each other out. It's obvious to the observer. Opposites attract. I love them both and consider all of thier contributions valid and informative.

[Majorion]

I calmly suggest maybe tottering over to PC and looking at Kerry's Blog. Dated 7 July there is a letter from an Australian source that has me quite stunned at the moment, except for the part where he subtley mentions that he hopes the guys with the auto correct technology steps in one more time to help us out.
A week ago I read this letter because a friend was worried and asked me if there were any truth to the leave Florida *warning* from this whistleblower, of course my reply was no and that everyone is where they belong, moving was neither necessary nor likely a good idea. And you know it is a fairly important topic but it seems that many people have been capitalizing on it and bringing about unnecessary concern, in my opinion. Hopefully the cap withstands the pressure and pretty soon we won't have to hear about it anymore. This oil spill story, I mean at times there were those preaching end of the world. And Kerry stated she believed the whistleblower information was credible, well the lesson here is to exercise a little journalistic responsibility and retract those kind of statements in the future which only encourage fear, and also put a big red flag on the source.

[blue777]

Bill and Kerry are balancing each other out. It's obvious to the observer. Opposites attract. I love them both and consider all of thier contributions valid and informative.

Therefore if they are balancing each other out, who is positive who is negative?

[frank samuel]

Therefore if they are balancing each other out, who is positive who is negative?

Taking my mod hat off and being a part of Project Camelot and now Project Avalon for the last 4 years or so this is my opinion. Kerry is more into the metaphysical, esoteric, channeling, this is her forte.
Bill is more practical and takes the scientific approach so the analogy that they balance themselves out is very valid.
It however has nothing with positive and negative just the approach they use base upon their particular background and experience.

Both Bill and Kerry are exposed to all kinds of information which in some cases is easy to discern and in other cases not.When you visit the Project Camelot website there's a statement posted, here's a copy paste of that statement.

We, Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan, do not necessarily agree with or endorse all of the views presented here. What Camelot is about is the investigation into the mysteries that surround us. We are all, in a sense, investigators of our world. And while we, as individuals, may not agree with everything presented on our site, we fully support freedom of thought and speech as well as the Quest for truth.

My advise just like the statement implies use discernment take the info which makes sense to you, what does not, discard it. The future is not set in stone and things can change from one minute to the next, in that way life is exciting.

Many many blessings to all.:thumb:

[PHARAOH]

Therefore if they are balancing each other out, who is positive who is negative?

They are both as are we. "Aletrnating Currents" if you will, aka "Bi-Polar". Thus the continuation of balance. It is perpetual. Are you one or the other, or are you both? I am both and will strive like most of us to remain in perpetual balance. Not easy but who ever said it would be?

[ArtyCarl]

I think Bill is right, a lot of people feel we are on the verge of something so every unusual event is jumped on as a potential instigator. The trouble is we have more smoking guns these days than a John Wayne movie. Given a little time, things will settle down and these things will fade into the background as new worries take centre stage.

[blue777]

They are both as are we. "Aletrnating Currents" if you will, aka "Bi-Polar". Thus the continuation of balance. It is perpetual. Are you one or the other, or are you both? I am both and will strive like most of us to remain in perpetual balance. Not easy but who ever said it would be?

duelism is the notion of the incarnation wheel
lol

[PHARAOH]

duelism is the notion of the incarnation wheel
lol

Then which are you??? Since you can only be one or the other. You only see in them that which you see in yourself. Reflect on this and you will see that in order for you to recognize both natures you would have to have them both natures in you.

[blue777]

Then which are you??? Since you can only be one or the other. You only see in them that which you see in yourself. Reflect on this and you too will see.

duelism is the the old paradigm, the new paradigm is linked to meeting an E.T OF THE SAME FREQUENCY AS YOU, AND MEETING ASCENDED MASTER someone who has already ascended,therefore uniting the union of opposites...i do not fall in either camp
lol
blue

[Celine]

Balance does not include falsehoods imo.

Bill offers me a balanced view of issues that are in
Tune with concerns in my mind.

I find it useless to read or watch anything that does
Not offer balance.

[PHARAOH]

To answer your question; i wont place Bill or Kerry in either positive or negative.

[Deega]

Hi members of this Tread,

I think that Bill and Kerry are experts in communication, experts in interviewing, experts in search of the facts, experts on what should be our temporal truth. I have, as others, my truth that I don’t try to leave on others shoulders!

I think that what Kerry said in her South Africa presentation is nothing to be alarm with, she mentioned that it' source was a whistleblower. She was not trying to demonstrate her expertise (it's coming from a whistleblower) on the oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico, she did not gave impression on being an expert in oil management…!

I think that in time to come, we will need to push together toward a better world and judgment will not contribute to forward our human evolution.

If someone stay neutral, it means that he probably don’t care about the cause of human emancipation, the cause of human development. Neutral means that you are not part of this world, so please, be with us, we need you. Be in this great time of a new paradigm shift, is it not a transition from dualism to UNITICITY CONSCIOUSNESS (Maya Calender), it means that we are starting a new venue where we will through time pull together in this miraculous and mysterious world that we are in.

And to Bill and Kerrey, I have been watching you since 2008, Oh! How greatful I am to your work! You have put a lot of yourself in this endeavour, you have won your shoulder (French expression) meaning that you have gain all my respect and my gratitude, and I’m very and plenty thankful.

I guess we need to pull on the same side because if we don’t, we’re playing the role of division, of stalling advancing, of breaking initiative. I’m not for this, so Bill and Kerry, all my respect and I wish that you won’t be touch by negativity and stay your course, you’re doing a great job.

All my respect, and my blessings.

Deega.

[Rimbaud]

Blue777

Dear friend! There's loads of reactionary stuff going on about the BP spill currently...If you want my opinion, I think that Kerry was bloody wrong and just scaring folk as she has been doing for a while now. I think that the cap will work..the spill will be contained, and the World will go back to its boring equilibrium...that is to say..safe and ordinary. There's alot to be said for that Dom..it means our families are safe for the time being...I don't care about myself much...but the safety of those I care about and love is my prime directive.

Huggs Blue

Rimbaud

[Buchanan561]

I just posted this on another thread about a couple of hours ago.
ET Walk-ins / Wanderers / Volunteers post no # 179 It was a long post and this was at the tail end of that post.

Then I find this thread. Forgive me but I am slow at catching up and I have only been on this forum for a few days. But with Camelot and then Avalon from the beginning. Silently. One of those silent readers who never post. But............ I had to post this here. Why? After this visitation from an entity from another dimension I have not been afraid of death. I do not fear what may or may not be coming. I left that far behind. I had another experience with an entity showing me protection by putting a protective barrier around my home. I watched as it was done. I have had many experiences as I will more than likely be sharing them as I find opening to do so within someone else's thread. Bear with me. Emma

In the spring of 1980 I had an experience. I was asleep in bed at night when all of a sudden I was awaken from my sleep and looked up and saw an infant floating above me over my bed. It had on a flowing white gown. I could see its face and hands. I acknowledged to this 'apparition' , "I see you there, who are you and what do you need of me?".
There was no answer. After the third time my asking and then mentioning to it, '"you are an infant'" it responded to me.
It said "Yes, I have come to you in the form of an Infant so you would not be afraid. I have come with a message for you."
I said "OK....I understand
The infant said, "In many years to come from now there will be terrible times in the world. And during these times you will be afraid because you will believe that there is no way you can survive. I have come as a comforter, and because I have come and spoken these words to you, you will remember my visit all the days of your life and will not forget. This is the comforter that I bring to you....." THAT YOU WILL SURVIVE."

I told the 'Infant' that I understood, and with that it disappeared.

The Infant was right. I have never forgotten nor shall I. I do not know if the infant was talking about physical survival, or spiritual survival. I tend to believe the second. And I believe that it was talking about these times we face these days. I am not afraid. I will survive because I am not of this world and neither are any of you. We will all survive so be not afraid. I am not

and .....Project Camelot, and Project Avalon and all their wonderful people, such as many of you have contributed to my knowledge and understanding of many things during the past years of these two projects. I thank Bill and Kerry with all my heart for being who they are, what they are, and for all their sacrifices for us. We are fortunate. People thousands of years ago had no such help to help them through their hellish times. Emma

[Ethereal Blue Being]

Buchanan561 this is a very calm reasuring experience this individual had of the infant floating above the bed. I agree with so many about Bill and Kerry. They compliment each other beautifully. Perhaps for those of you who may be familiar with the works of Gene Roddenbery the creator of Star Trek. On the Star Trek Series Enterprise, I see Bill as the character Captain Jean Luc Picard played by Patrick Stewart and I think of Kerry more like the Betazoid Empath Deanna Troy played by Marina Sirtis. Each has their own way of dealing with and relating to the universe. Neither is a "negative being" but they create balance. There was a reason Gene Roddenbery put them together in so many scenes. The amount of knowledge and info I have gained from Bill and Kerry's interviews and opinions has changed my concept of reality, and it continually morphs as more comes in. I am very thankful for all the hard work they've done . I hope they both know how far reaching and important their work is.

[kcw_one]

The whole Bill vs. Kerry thing isn't really a thing at all. I think it's a question of what info you resonate with. Personally I have tended to lean towards the info coming out of Avalon over Camelot Productions because the info coming out of kerry's material lately does seem to have a vibrational tone more towards the fear end of things. That is a personal preferece of course. I still have a great deal of respect for her, as I do for Bill, but for me her interviews are going in a direction that I am not interested in. The same could be said of many other contributors to the alternative media. Guys like Rense and others, even George Noory and that crew -- I don't listen to them much, even though there may be valid info in the mix, because the vibe of their interpretations etc are not a vibrational match to where I am at.

It is one thing to be informed of events going on behind the scenes, but how one responds to that knowledge is quite another thing entirely. For me, if I find I cannot find a positive thought about a piece of info, cannot find a way to feel good about how it fits into the unfolding process we are going through, I discard it. It may still hold truth, but what of it. I'd rather be clear, focused and feeling good so that I can be effective in my part in things rather than afraid and depressed.

Id advise anyone reading this to pay attention to their inner guidance on any subject inthis big confusing mess. Pay attention to how the info makes you feel. Use that as your guide.

[Rimbaud]

From my point of view..you've "nailed it" Kcw_one.

I honestly don't think that I could add another word that would describe my own feelings better than you have enunciated...Thanks for that, and best regards..

Rimbaud