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childs hood end
4th February 2012, 20:02
New Children’s Rights Explained
Posted on January 28, 2012 by irelandssecretcourts
April 2012

With the passing of the 28th Amendment to the Constitution, Article 42 to allow for Children’s Rights to be enshrined in the Irish Constitution, the list below while not exhaustive, are the new rules for Parents to be aware of. These Rights are indisputable and supercede all Irish Law, Statutory or Constitutional, as defined in the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child.

■All Children will be Vaccinated for every known illness regardless of the views or wishes of the parent. Failure to comply will result in your child being removed and placed for Adoption.
■Children can no longer be viewed as the “Property” of Parents, Children are not Chattels to be owned or traded (except by Governments), the Parental Right of vindicating the “Best Interests” of every Child in Ireland now passes to the Government.
■Children regardless of age, have the Right to Contraception regardless of the Parents knowledge or wishes. Failure to comply will result in your child being removed and placed for Adoption.
■Children regardless of age have the Right to Abortion on demand, regardless of the knowledge or wishes of the Parent. Failure to comply will result in your child being removed and placed for Adoption.
■All Children regardless of age have the Right to choose their Religion, parents may only advise their child. This may be interpreted as Catholic Education or any Religious School or Institution as also being incompatible with the UNCRC. This can be contested by any child in Ireland under the UNCRC. Catholic Baptism, First Holy Communion and Confirmation may also be incompatible but remain to be tested in the Courts.
■Children have the Right to Divorce their Parents and the Irish Courts can terminate the Parental Rights of any Parent without “Due Process of Law”.
■In all disputes between Parents and Children, regardless of age, the State will decide the “Best Interests of the Child”. The State as Legal Guardian for all Irish Children will consider the Child’s wishes as paramount to the Parents. Failure to comply will result in your child being removed and placed for Adoption.
■Children will be removed from Parents and placed for Adoption regardless of the wishes of the Parent. The State as Legal Guardian reserves the Right to remove any child, at any time. for any reason and place the children with Adoptive Parents deemed more suitable than the Birth Parents. Siblings may be seperated and the Child’s Relatives have no legal Right in regard to the Child.
■The State reserves the Right to enter any home or dwelling at any time, without Warrant or Court Order to inspect, instruct Parents, gather evidence, or any activity deemed to be in the “Best Interests of the Child”.
■Any presumed Rights of Parents are null and void when a Child crosses the Threshold of a School, Hospital, Public Building.
■“Reasonable Chastisment” of a Child is now illegal. Parents may not administer “Time-outs”, “Grounding”, Slapping or Spanking, “Detention” in Schools, Withdrawl of Privleges or any form of punishment on a child under penalty of law. Failure to comply will result in your child being removed and placed for Adoption.
■The State if it is deemed necessary may administer any Drug, Medical Test, Psychological Test, May Interview or carry out a Physical Examination including “Strip-Seaching” any Child at any time without the knowledge or permission of the Parent and without the Parents present. The Examinations may be carried out by certain members of the State without a Medical Qualification. Failure to comply will result in your child being removed and placed for Adoption.
■Children in State Care whether short or long-term no longer have the Right to speak to members of the Media under any circumstances. Parents have not had this Right under the In-Camera Rule in Family Law Proceedings.
■Under the UNCRC all Irish Laws regarding Children are subject to their interpretation within the framework of the UNCRC, the UNCRC supercedes all other laws. This is subject to change at any time and will be decided by the UNCRC Committee without prior consultation of any of the 192 Countries who have ratified it.

Ammit
4th February 2012, 20:05
Bloody hell, where is the origional document for this???

Earth Angel
4th February 2012, 20:08
this is a joke right?

Carmen
4th February 2012, 20:16
It has to be a joke???

Ineffable Hitchhiker
4th February 2012, 20:16
Hi there,
could you provide a link please?

Rollo
4th February 2012, 20:17
For sure it's a joke! Fear-porn in its best again.

BlueGem
4th February 2012, 20:20
For years I have felt that Ireland has been hit hard. For a nation of just over 4 million people, I'm left wondering 'why?'.

Even a brief look at our history shows a long line of violence, suppression, and civil disputes. We have been busy. People need only to know about the shambles that was the Lisbon Treaty to come to grips with how we lost our sovereignty a long time ago. The influence of the EU and the Vatican on our little island has been quite heavy-handed.

We are a resilient people, very social and kind. But we have been foolish in the past, we are eager to look up to our figureheads as infallible sources of information. There is a sense of fear and close-mindedness in a lot of people, especially those of older generations due to Catholicism and hugely corrupt governments. There is still a lot we need to do to shake off the old ways.

This list is so disappointing.


For sure it's a joke! Fear-porn in its best again.

I hope you're right!

Maia Gabrial
5th February 2012, 15:23
What a load of crap! This sounds like legalized Pedophilia! It seems that they passed this garbage without anyone's knowledge or consent. You good Irish people need to stand up for YOUR sovereign rights (and your children's) and send this crap to hell. I'd say snag each politician who passed this garbage and give them 39+ lashes until they rescind this!
And I thought it was bad in the US....

Arrowwind
5th February 2012, 15:36
Yes. My sensors say this is BS. bring forth the legal document please or dont bother us with this stuff As it stands it does nothing for anyone and I wonder about the intent behind it. Why would you post such a thing without original material to back it up?

Leon
5th February 2012, 15:40
I think the above is wrong, however it is shown like that on facebook???

This is part of that treaty:
The Twenty-eighth Amendment[n 1] of the Constitution of Ireland permitted the state to ratify the Lisbon Treaty of the European Union. It was effected by the Twenty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution (Treaty of Lisbon) Act 2009, which was approved by referendum on 2 October 2009 (sometimes known as the Lisbon II referendum).

I can only find the following:

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/07907180701699240#tabModule/

There was also no comprehensive effort to amend the constitutional protection of the family in Articles 41 and 42. Children's rights would thus remain subordinate to those of parents and the family unit. In addition, the retention of the ‘special position’ of the marital family means that non‐marital children of the non‐marital family would still be disadvantaged under the proposed constitutional framework. (ICCL, 2007a: 17). The very high threshold of proof required to trigger state intervention by the old Article 42.5 would remain – albeit that that duty currently owed by the State under Article 42.5 would be extended to ‘any child’ (rather than merely children of marital families). According to the ICCL, in reality, this proposal would mean that children of non‐marital families would be ‘equally disadvantaged’.

NewFounderHome
5th February 2012, 15:45
New Children’s Rights Explained
Posted on January 28, 2012 by irelandssecretcourts
April 2012

With the passing of the 28th Amendment to the Constitution, Article 42 to allow for Children’s Rights to be enshrined in the Irish Constitution, the list below while not exhaustive, are the new rules for Parents to be aware of. These Rights are indisputable and supercede all Irish Law, Statutory or Constitutional, as defined in the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child.

■All Children will be Vaccinated for every known illness regardless of the views or wishes of the parent. Failure to comply will result in your child being removed and placed for Adoption.
■Children can no longer be viewed as the “Property” of Parents, Children are not Chattels to be owned or traded (except by Governments), the Parental Right of vindicating the “Best Interests” of every Child in Ireland now passes to the Government.
■Children regardless of age, have the Right to Contraception regardless of the Parents knowledge or wishes. Failure to comply will result in your child being removed and placed for Adoption.
■Children regardless of age have the Right to Abortion on demand, regardless of the knowledge or wishes of the Parent. Failure to comply will result in your child being removed and placed for Adoption.
■All Children regardless of age have the Right to choose their Religion, parents may only advise their child. This may be interpreted as Catholic Education or any Religious School or Institution as also being incompatible with the UNCRC. This can be contested by any child in Ireland under the UNCRC. Catholic Baptism, First Holy Communion and Confirmation may also be incompatible but remain to be tested in the Courts.
■Children have the Right to Divorce their Parents and the Irish Courts can terminate the Parental Rights of any Parent without “Due Process of Law”.
■In all disputes between Parents and Children, regardless of age, the State will decide the “Best Interests of the Child”. The State as Legal Guardian for all Irish Children will consider the Child’s wishes as paramount to the Parents. Failure to comply will result in your child being removed and placed for Adoption.
■Children will be removed from Parents and placed for Adoption regardless of the wishes of the Parent. The State as Legal Guardian reserves the Right to remove any child, at any time. for any reason and place the children with Adoptive Parents deemed more suitable than the Birth Parents. Siblings may be seperated and the Child’s Relatives have no legal Right in regard to the Child.
■The State reserves the Right to enter any home or dwelling at any time, without Warrant or Court Order to inspect, instruct Parents, gather evidence, or any activity deemed to be in the “Best Interests of the Child”.
■Any presumed Rights of Parents are null and void when a Child crosses the Threshold of a School, Hospital, Public Building.
■“Reasonable Chastisment” of a Child is now illegal. Parents may not administer “Time-outs”, “Grounding”, Slapping or Spanking, “Detention” in Schools, Withdrawl of Privleges or any form of punishment on a child under penalty of law. Failure to comply will result in your child being removed and placed for Adoption.
■The State if it is deemed necessary may administer any Drug, Medical Test, Psychological Test, May Interview or carry out a Physical Examination including “Strip-Seaching” any Child at any time without the knowledge or permission of the Parent and without the Parents present. The Examinations may be carried out by certain members of the State without a Medical Qualification. Failure to comply will result in your child being removed and placed for Adoption.
■Children in State Care whether short or long-term no longer have the Right to speak to members of the Media under any circumstances. Parents have not had this Right under the In-Camera Rule in Family Law Proceedings.
■Under the UNCRC all Irish Laws regarding Children are subject to their interpretation within the framework of the UNCRC, the UNCRC supercedes all other laws. This is subject to change at any time and will be decided by the UNCRC Committee without prior consultation of any of the 192 Countries who have ratified it.

Where can this be read true an official fashion? So this can be proven as the new law in enforcement.

Maia Gabrial
5th February 2012, 15:53
I'm not saying this is made up crap. I'm saying that the reasoning and violation of it is downright horrible. IT'S crap and the Irish need to do something to their law makers...

Billy
5th February 2012, 16:07
to date there is no 28th amendment been intergrated into the constitution. http://www.taoiseach.gov.ie/attached_files/Pdf%20files/Constitution%20of%20Ireland.pdf

But that does not mean it may be intergrated at a later date.

I dearly hope not

BlueGem
5th February 2012, 16:15
This thread reminds me of an old joke:

Why did God invent alcohol?

To stop the Irish taking over the world!

Billy
5th February 2012, 16:30
This thread reminds me of an old joke:

Why did God invent alcohol?

To stop the Irish taking over the world!

Hmm it looks like Gods plan did not work then :p