Aleister Crowley

[pugwash84]

Hello everyone, this is the first time I've heard of Aleister Crowley but I was reading a book today and he sounded odd and unusual and he was a mason too so he claimed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley
Aleister Crowley (/ˈkroʊli/ kroh-lee; 12 October 1875–1 December 1947), born Edward Alexander Crowley, and also known as both Frater Perdurabo and The Great Beast, was an influential English occultist, astrologer, mystic and ceremonial magician, responsible for founding the religious philosophy of Thelema. He was also successful in various other fields, including mountaineering, chess and poetry. In his role as the founder of the Thelemite philosophy, he came to see himself as the prophet who was entrusted with informing humanity that it was entering the new Aeon of Horus in the early twentieth century.
I like to read up on unusual people and he seemed very unusual. I found it odd that I had never heard of him before and was wondering if you guys knew about him.

[Debra]

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Hello everyone, this is the first time I've heard of Aleister Crowley but I was reading a book today and he sounded odd and unusual and he was a mason too so he claimed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley
... wondering if you guys knew about him.

[super t]

Google O.T.O, for example V for Vendetta comic is full of his quotes. Beatles had him on their album cover, Jimmy Page from Led Zeppelin owns his house nowadays and so on...has influenced many crackpots, Hitler for example.

[GaelVictor]

Good old Aleister "Do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the law'' Crowley, yes he was a famous member of the O.T.O. Ordo Templi Orientis, founded in 1895 in Austria.
He was a tenth degree member, in charge of Britain, and rewrote some of the initiation rituals.

''Love is the law, love under will''

I think he suffered from a big EGO, did some black magic that backfired, and in the end got addicted to heroin. I think he lacked discipline, although he was a insightfull and creative man.

[noprophet]

Best way is through the horses mouth.



I find myself obliged, for these and many other reasons, to abandon altogether any idea of conceiving an artistic structure for the work or formulating an artistic purpose. All that I can do is to describe everything that I remember, as best I can, as if it were, in itself, the centre of interest. I must trust nature so to order matters that, in the multiplicity of the material, the proper proportion will somehow appear automatically, just as in the operations of pure chance or inexorable law a unity ennobled by strength and beautified by harmony arises inscrutably out of the chaotic concatenation of circumstances.

At least one claim may be made; nothing has been invented, nothing suppressed, nothing altered and nothing "yellowed up". I believe that truth is not only stranger than fiction, but more interesting. And I have no motive for deception, because I don't give a damn for the whole human race --- "you're nothing but a pack of cards."


http://niontron.com/aleister-crowly.pdf

[pugwash84]

wow thank you, he is very interesting, I think the more I hear about him the more intrigued I get :)

[seehas]

crowley influenced many lodges and many people arround the world, he also was a friend of jack parsons and ron hubbard.
he created many new rituals or worked old ones out of the dust, specialy sexual magikk he discribed as very very powerfull.
there are also rumors of barbara bush beeing crowleys daughter.


another very interesting topic at crowley is the fact that he could be the man that draw the first picture of a so called "grey".

when he meditated in the cheops pyramid a grey-beeing appeard and he dictated him the book "the law". if im not wrong.

http://www.boudillion.com/lam/lam02.jpg

this link is also pretty good about this topic -> http://www.boudillion.com/lam/lam.htm

[Anchor]

AC has come up on this forum more than once.

Fascinating character - more by the bad PR he managed to accrue and the reactions he causes in people to this day.

[percival tyro]

Hi pugwash84, all that I know of him is by reading one of his books years ago. "Eight lectures on yoga" 1985 by falcon press. USA. Yoga for yahoos.... When he gave a series of lectures to royalty and the aristocracy. He started " It is my will to explain the subject of Yoga in a clear language, without resort to jargon or the enunciation of hypotheses, in order that this great science may be thoroughly understood as of universal importance". Believe it or not it's a very grounded book, well worth seeking out. Only 80 pages. I've read it many times over.

[Anchor]

Hi pugwash84, all that I know of him is by reading one of his books years ago. "Eight lectures on yoga" 1985 by falcon press. USA. Yoga for yahoos.... When he gave a series of lectures to royalty and the aristocracy. He started " It is my will to explain the subject of Yoga in a clear language, without resort to jargon or the enunciation of hypotheses, in order that this great science may be thoroughly understood as of universal importance". Believe it or not it's a very grounded book, well worth seeking out. Only 80 pages. I've read it many times over.

Me too, and it is an excellent example of mastery in the use of the English language.

[christian]

There is a very informational thread about Crowley:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?4705-Aleister-Crowley-Questions

[taurad]

The BIG BEAST!!!

also

The Wickedest human!!!

i've always been drawn to this "creature", since teen...quite a character...definitely shaped the world we live in...

a couple of weeks ago smn send me this 3-part doc...here it is for your viewing:

Do What You Want"..? (Exposing Satanism in Society)

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[unicorny]

I read somewhere that George bush (junior) may be his grandson as his mum is his illegitemate child . does anyone have any idea whether this may be true, I'd be interested to know

[thunder24]

im pretty sure it was g.h.w.'s wife barbra that is crowley's supposed child....supposedly a moon child....

do what though wilt, be the whole of the law= even "good" people do what they want, no?
peace

[unicorny]

im pretty sure it was g.h.w.'s wife barbra that is crowley's supposed child....supposedly a moon child....

do what though wilt, be the whole of the law= even "good" people do what they want, no?
peace

yeah thats what i meant i amended my post but that was before i saw yours do you know if her mum did spend time with him i heard it was just a hoax but wasn't sure if that was just disinfo

[jagman]

E.A. Koetting is a expert on Crowley, He gave an interview on Coast a few months back ( I will try and find it )
http://www.spiritualgateway.net/

[mountain_jim]

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/04/george-w-bush-barbara-bush-and.html

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7065/364/320/Aleister-Crowley-32KB.jpg



George W. Bush, Barbara Bush, and Aleister Crowley

Few people understand that one of the most notorious individuals in British history may have contributed to the lineage of our current president. Aleister Crowley, a.k.a., "The Great Beast 666" -- the infamous practitioner of "sex magick" whose motto was "Do What Thou Wilt" -- came to know a great many remarkable people, including the maternal grandmother of George W. Bush. "Know," in this case, may be taken in the Biblical sense. Evidence points to the disturbing possibility that he was the true father of Barbara Bush, the former First Lady and mother to George W. Bush.

The story may seem difficult to believe at first, until one learns more about the social inter-relations that tied together these unlikely parties. Specifically, we must focus on a fascinating woman named Pauline Pierce, born Pauline Robinson -- whose third child was named Barbara.

Most sources divulge little about this woman. We learn more about her husband Marvin Pierce, the president of the McCall Corporation, which published McCall's magazine and Redbook. He married Pauline, a beautiful young socialite, in 1919. Their first child, Martha, was born the next year; the second, James, was born in 1921. At this time, Aleister Crowley inhabited what must have seemed a very different world, as he embarked upon the great communal experiment of the Abbey of Thelema in Italy.

Pauline, however, had a hidden side -- what we might call (without intending any judgment or insult) a wild side. We get a whiff of it from this Wikipedia entry:
W magazine once described her as "beautiful, fabulous, critical, and meddling" and "a former beauty from Ohio with extravagant tastes"...

Rumors that Pauline had an affair with Dwight D. Eisenhower have never been verified... Still, gossip tabloids from the '40s often associated her with prominent men in politics and film.
I have not yet been able to acquire independent confirmation of the Eisenhower liaison, although I personally see no reason to doubt that it existed. However, we may well have reason to believe that she began her "experimental" period before the 1940s.

A sixth-level initiate within the OTO (the Ordo Templi Orientis, the mystical society that Crowely came to head in the 1920s) first set me down this research path by revealing that Pauline Robinson had befriended an woman named Nellie O'Hara, an American adventuress who, at some point during her European travels, met the famed writer Frank Harris. Despite his advancing years, Harris still maintained a reputation for sexual excess that rivaled Crowley's. During this period (1919-1927), Nellie and Frank Harris lived as man and wife, although they could not actually wed because Harris' second wife was still alive and would not grant a divorce.

Harris and Crowley were good friends. Not only that: At this time, and not for the last time, Crowley was very much the proverbial "friend in need."

During the Abbey period, a Crowley follower had accidentally died during a magickal ceremony. The incident created a firestorm of unwanted publicity (the sensationalist British press labeled Crowley "The Wickedest Man in the World"), which prompted Mussolini's government to expel Crowley and his followers from Italian soil. By 1924, he lived in poverty in France, where Frank Harris kindly took him under his roof. This arrangement inevitably brought Crowley into contact with Nellie.

Crowley's diaries, to which I have been given access, clearly indicate that he depended on Harris for financial assistance:
January 3rd 1924 - "No luck about cash yet: but F.H. promises 500 fr to-morrow - so that I can bolt to Paris. One step onward to the Establishment of the Law of Thelema.
The money soon ran out, and AC (as his associates called him) soon had to ask his friend for further assistance. At this time, Harris was writing his multi-volume "erotic autobiography," My Life and Loves; he also purchased a newspaper, The Evening Telegram. But he lacked the resources and management skills to make the enterprise a success, and soon found himself in a financial position no better than Crowley's.

Despite his parlous economic circumstances, Crowley focused his attention on sex magick. Not many years previously, he and a follower named Jeanne Foster (a.k.a. Soror Hilarion) had conducted a sex-magickal rite designed to give birth to a child destined to carry on Crowley's work. I have not been able to determine whether he conducted similar experiments with Nellie, although given the polyamorous proclivities of all the parties involved, one should not discount the possibility.

Nellie's friend Pauline no doubt scandalized her social circle by traveling to France on her own and leaving two very young children in the care of nursemaids. However, her correspondence with her friend -- whose life in France with a famous literary figure must have seemed quite glamorous -- can only have inspired a sense of wanderlust. Her husband, increasingly bound to his duties with the McCall Corporation, did not share this spirit of adventure.

Thus it was that four individuals came together: Frank Harris, Nellie O'Hara, Pauline Pierce, and Aleister Crowley. Anyone who has studied Crowley's life will understand that what happened next was, in a sense, inevitable.

Crowley's diaries for this period record the initials "PVN," a cryptic reference to his favorite sexual position, which some of his partners found distasteful. (The letters derive from the Latin for "By way of the Infernal Entrance.") This is a common annotation in the records of Crowley's magical practices. We also find the strange initials "ECL." After researching the matter for some time, I have come to the conclusion that this is a reference to the practice known as "Eroto-Comotose Lucidity."

Before proceeding, I should emphasize that the year 1924 has a special significance in the Crowley chrnology. At this time, he is said to have undergone the "supreme ordeal" connected with his attainment of the Grade of Ipsissimus, the highest magickal achievement within his order. The exact nature of this ordeal remains mysterious. I believe that an important clue can be found in his description of the rite of Eroto-Comotose Lucidity:
The Candidate is made ready for the Ordeal by general athletic training, and by feasting. On the appointed day he is attended by one or more chosen and experienced attendants whose duty is (a) to exhaust him sexually by every known means (b) to rouse him sexually by every known means. Every device and artifice of the courtesan is to be employed, and every stimulant known to the physician. Nor should the attendants reck of danger, but hunt down ruthlessly their appointed prey.

Finally the Candidate will into a sleep of utter exhaustion, resembling coma, and it is now that delicacy and skill must be exquisite. Let him be roused from this sleep by stimulation of a definitely and exclusively sexual type. Yet if convenient, music wisely regulated will assist.

The attendants will watch with assiduity for signs of waking; and the moment these occur, all stimulation must cease instantly, and the Candidate be allowed to fall again into sleep; but no sooner has this happened than the former practice is resumed. This alteration is to continue indefinitely until the Candidate is in a state which is neither sleep nor waking, and in which his Spirit, set free by perfect exhaustion of the body, and yet prevented from entering the City of Sleep, communes with the Most High and the Most Holy Lord God of its being, maker of heaven and earth.

The Ordeal terminates by failure---the occurence of sleep invincible--- or by success, in which ultimate waking is followed by a final performance of the sexual act. The Initiate may then be allowed to sleep, or the practice may be renewed and persisted in until death ends all. The most favourable death is that occurring during the orgasm, and is called Mors Justi.

As it is written: Let me die the death of the Righteous, and let my last end be like his!
If he did undergo this "ordeal" in 1924, then we must presume that his key associates of that time -- including Nellie and Pauline -- functioned as his assistants.

Pauline returned to America in early October of 1924. On June 8, 1925, she gave birth to a girl named Barbara. Barbara Pierce married George H.W. Bush, who eventually became the 41st President of the United States.

But who was Barbara's father? The chronology indicates that it could have been Crowley, but it could just as easily have been Marvin Pierce. The truth regarding Crowlean sexual rituals is disclosed only to the highest initiates of the OTO, in a document misleadingly titled "Emblems and Modes of Use."

Is Aleister Crowley the father of Barbara Bush? Even she may not know for certain; indeed, I have no way of knowing whether she has ever been told that this possibility exists. However, more than one person has noted the resemblance -- and this resemblance is not just physical. Many will recall the former First Lady's haughty and thoughtless remarks in the aftermath of the Katrina disaster. Those "in the know" were reminded of Aleister Crowley's similar reaction to the loss of life which occurred during the ascent of Kangchanjunga, an expedition he commanded: "This is precisely the sort of thing with which I have no sympathy whatsoever."

I leave the matter for the reader to decide.

[percival tyro]

Too true Anchor. To be able to communicate to other people precisely what you have in mind must be liberating. I don't know whether he had a big ego or whether he just wanted to let his light shine.

[minkton]

I think he had a huge ego. And a lot of chauvinism. He was a Victorian, with a deeply repressive upbringing. His throwing off of his personal shackles is a large part of what he did. Ironically, he was Patriarchal, himself, immensely. But not born in a period when male consciousness raising was on any menu. He was also very aware of creating an image for himself, very much a PR merchant. You have to strip away the PR and push to one side the sadism toward women and the psychopathic pathology to just see his work for what it is, without the 'glamour'.

[Mike Gorman]

A.C's book 'Diary of a Dope fiend' was a brilliant read-not what you'd expect from the supposed 'wickedest of Men', he actually proposes
self control. His 'Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law' and 'love under Will' are often misunderstood to mean -do what ya want...
He explained that to love without engaging your Will is not to love, but to be a victim, something many of us have discovered?
Despite his fearsome reputation I think Aleister was a true Philosopher and Psychologist-yes he messed about with Majik-at least he
looked into matters a bit more discursively, Interesting man no mistake.

[Cartomancer]

Crowley was one of the most influential occultists of the twentieth century. He took the Ordo Templi Orientis and molded into an order that practices sexual rituals and rites. Other members of this order were said to include Ron L. Hubbard, the founder of Scientology, and Jack Parsons who founded the Jet Propulsion Labratory that later became NASA.

The movie "Eyes Wide Shut" is said to depict some of the activities of this order. Stanley Kubrick the director of the movie was suspected to be an adept of this order and may have been killed for exposing them in the movie. Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin is also said to be a member of the OTO.

[Anchor]

Too true Anchor. To be able to communicate to other people precisely what you have in mind must be liberating. I don't know whether he had a big ego or whether he just wanted to let his light shine.

Both I think.