Question for Remote Viewers and fellow Telepaths

[DreamsInDigital]

If this is the wrong forum can one of our lovely mods/admins move it to the right forum please?

Ok, aside from thinking this will make an interesting topic, with the cross over aspects of some telepathic and remote viewing subject. When the two work hand in hand. I have an question for remote viewers and fellow Telepaths.

When talking to someone Telepathically, sometimes I can "see" them also. And it depends on the person to the varying degree how clearly this is. Is that just something specifically Telepathic, or is it considered also Remote Viewing, combination of both? What?

[CdnSirian]

I have been reading Ingo Swann recently. From how he describes his work, I think he would call it both. Telepathy extends to bilocation. Yet not determined - are you over there? Or remotely viewing it? Technical nit-picking. Part of his story is here:

www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_telepathy.htm posted -- somewhere else on PA recently. Forgot where.

[Kristo]

When I 'tap in' I see everything too. I don't know much about remote viewing but they seem synonymous. I read a book about RV once by an ex military guy who was trained in it. Very dry, technical, boring. It sort of turned me off to the term RV, because my telepathy is all about feeling. I'm sure you'll understand. However, toMAYto- toMAHto :)

Peace,
Kris

[Selene]

That’s an excellent question, DreamsInDigital.

Yes, in fact the “crossover” or blending from one mode of understanding to another is more the norm than the exception. There’s no one-size-fits-all description of any psychic phenomenon. The experiences don’t come in neat little boxes, each distinct from the other. They blend, they morph. You can “see” sounds and “hear” colors and “feel” structures while in telepathic or RV or any other mode. Images can flash rapidly in your mind’s eye while a single word echoes somehow, a scent lingers, or you think suddenly of a number, all at once. Trying to categorize any psychic experience into boxes is usually more trouble than it’s worth.

It’s very, very personal and only you can learn to understand your own inner landscape and thereby to recognize how your own senses work.

At any rate, I hope this is helpful.

Cheers,

Selene

[eileenrose]

If this is the wrong forum can one of our lovely mods/admins move it to the right forum please?

Ok, aside from thinking this will make an interesting topic, with the cross over aspects of some telepathic and remote viewing subject. When the two work hand in hand. I have an question for remote viewers and fellow Telepaths.

When talking to someone Telepathically, sometimes I can "see" them also. And it depends on the person to the varying degree how clearly this is. Is that just something specifically Telepathic, or is it considered also Remote Viewing, combination of both? What?

So do you talk to people telepathically, or are you asking a question about it?
I am confused.

"Seeing" someone remotely is what I do a lot. I see the information (of their reality) that I choose to look upon. I usually am asked to do a healing remotely. Sometimes I just get a sense of who they are (intellectually/spiritually).
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notes:
I have no idea how anyone else does their RV or telepathic work or whatever they feel they are doing. I have to have specifics to compare. Most people are already empathic, they just refuse to deal with those feelings. So they never 'get upgraded' to telepathic, let alone Remote Healer or Remote Viewer.

eileen

[DreamsInDigital]

I talk to people telepathically, and am asking questions about it. But, also I figured since it's an interesting topic I'd make a thread about it so that others can learn along with me. And we can all collectively have a 'conversation' about this. :)

[ponda]

Interesting topic


i would guess that at our level any telepathic,remote viewing etc experiences that we receive would be like taking little baby steps towards the bigger picture of what is possible and lies beyond.

As Selene stated it's probably going to be a little bit different for everyone and some people will have say remote viewing experiences,some telepathic,some healing,some intuitive,some misc etc

iv'e had a few mainly telepathic type experiences.You can talk to whoever it is by using mind talk and sort of get a response or acknowledgment that the communication was received.The receiver can also get your message actually before you have finished formulating it into a verbal type of mind talk.You sort of just think what you want to say and the message is received straight away.No need for language,just thought.

Sometimes i can feel when someone logs into me.You can just sort of feel a conscious presence inside you.Sometimes you can feel if they are positive or negative.Sometimes you just know that they are positive or negative.Sometimes i have felt the other beings emotional response to something that i have said to them.This has only happened a few times.

The incoming messages can be delivered in a few different ways in my experience so far.I very rarely get any incoming dialogue.They don't say much.The negs talk a bit but it's almost always lies and fear mongering.Anyway sometimes you get a sort of written sentence in your mind,sometimes you get mind talk that isn't you BUT could very easily be confused with being your own.Then there is this difficult to describe way that is sort of a combination of written,mind talk and just knowing.Hard to put into words but seems to be the most common.I have also had a few experiences with an incoming message that you don't hear or see in your mind but you just know what it is.Again no need for language.This has only happened a few times.

[Rantaak]

Most excellent post, my fellow Orgy fan!

Remote viewing and telepathy are indeed phenomena of illusive disparity. I believe that the third eye is responsible for catalyzing the sensory aspects of our visions and channeling, possibly even the symbolic and recollective-analytic aspects as well but the fourth integral aspect may require critical thinking, dissociation, meditation, or some combination thereof. The third eye (and I am referring to the pineal gland in the brain) actually has rods and cones on it, just like the more obvious eyes which present our ever-so-telling iris for all perceptives to see and utilize as a conduit to engage in soul-gazing. In fact, the same "wires" that connect the outer eyes to the brain for download and analysis are also connected to the pineal gland, bridged only by a thin and watery membrane. It is possible that there are certain neurotransmitters which facilitate the use of these glands, blooming away their long and overdue atrophy. It is currently believed in the academia of "science" that neurotransmitters play some role in the chemical functionality of our consciousness.

In my experience, moments of telepathy, remote viewing (in other dimensions and densities as well), and general clairvoyance have presented themselves in the four aforementioned forms. What I have observed this to mean is that the information can be visual, even if it is just a fast-moving scintillating non-euclidean form of energy that somehow captures the entire spectrum of the experience or relationship being perceived. It can also be auditory, though I've heard some very strange things in the forms of voices that I'm not entirely certain of the validity of. Most of them have been valid, but some of them are just too darn weird for me to have the guts to attempt to validate. The rote can also make its way into the controlling awareness of my body in a purely integral form, meaning that the information is being focused on by the subconscious mind in such a way that I am able to operate on it without being consciously aware of it.

This latter form of informational "download" or utilization which most bizarrely manifests in clairvoyance is, I believe, the most common in most if not all people. We are so psychic and we don't even know it! We've all just been hypnotized to generalize these obvious signs of magic as being absurd or "crazy" (that particular word/idea is quite misused and misunderstood, I think) and so our most abundant methodologies of trying to utilize them are absurd, silly, often ritualized and actually counter-productive to our intentions. I mean, have you ever heard of Sylvia Brown? My god...:pound: I should note that I have been a practitioner of hypnosis and such, so I am aware of how it works and how invisible it can be made to be. It works a bit like developmental psychology, oddly enough, so can be used to quite literally "make" a person.

It is interesting to see how the integral / subconscious form of clairvoyance manifests the way that we dream.

[mountain_jim]

A related link that has risen to the top of topics at ATS today:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread806980/pg1



Big Name Neuroscientist Announces Telepathy as Proven Fact!

Well well, look what we have here. Dr. Michael Persinger, the famous Neuroscientist at Ontario University, an Atheist hailed by skeptics for his "God helmet" experiments as being evidence against NDE's being evidence for an afterlife, has turned the tables on his skeptic admirers by announcing that he has now discovered a proven telepathic link in his experiments. See his interview below.

www.skeptiko.com...

Neuroscience Researcher and Laurentian University professor, Dr. Michael Persinger, demonstrates telepathy under laboratory conditions.

Claims of telepathy, ESP and other psi phenomena are a mainstay of popular culture but taboo in neuroscience research circles. Fortunately, Dr. Michael Persinger of Canada’s Laurentian University has never been afraid to venture where other researchers fear to go. In the 1980′s Persinger made headlines with his “God Helmet”, a device that stimulates temporal lobes with a weak magnetic field in order to produce religious states.

Now, Persinger has discovered the same type of brain stimulation can create metal states conducive to human telepathy. “What we have found is that if you place two different people at a distance and put a circular magnetic field around both, and you make sure they are connected to the same computer so they get the same stimulation, then if you flash a light in one person’s eye the person in the other room receiving just the magnetic field will show changes in their brain as if they saw the flash of light. We think that’s tremendous because it may be the first macro demonstration of a quantum connection, or so-called quantum entanglement. If true, then there’s another way of potential communication that may have physical applications, for example, in space travel.”

While Persinger’s experiments could prove groundbreaking, he remains doubtful about his controversial findings reaching his colleagues, “I think the critical thing about science is to be open-minded. It’s really important to realize that the true subject matter of science is the pursuit of the unknown. Sadly scientists have become extraordinarily group-oriented. Our most typical critics are not are mystic believer types. They are scientists who have a narrow vision of what the world is like





Michael Persinger: 'No More Secrets' with Telepathy
Posted by Greg at 02:53, 17 May 2011

Dr Michael Persinger of Laurentian University quickly became the science darling of skeptics and atheists a decade ago with news of his 'God Helmet', which appeared to show that 'sensed presence' of supernatural entities (and/or 'God') may be simply due to magnetic disturbance of the brain. Since then however, Persinger has not made himself an overly attractive science reference for skeptics as he has been involved with, and claims to have achieved positive results in, experimental parapsychology.

Earlier this year, Persinger gave the following lecture, titled "No More Secrets". In it, he detailed his theories on the connection between magnetic fields and the brain, in particular how this relationship could facilitate telepathy and remote viewing. He notes particular experiments and individuals (Ingo Swann, Sean Harribance) that seem to give evidence supporting his theories, and makes some fairly extraordinary claims which I'm sure will lead to some debate

9l6VPpDublg

[mountain_jim]

Not as far along yet as I intend to be in these areas, though I proved bilocation to myself many years ago, viewing myself in a near-sleep state sitting in a company car, from an imaged vantage point about 100 feet up and over.

Also during a consciousness experiment with friends in college, I 'received' the emotion of fear being experienced from a friend bout 50 feet behind me as a smell and set of vibrations seemingly received via the spinal cord acting as a receiving antenna with the instant understanding of what this 'feeling' meant.

These days, it seems I am in the process of 'allowing' ego-fear-of-death-and-dissolution blockages to fall away and let the remote viewing and astral travelling experiences flow without ego-blockage restrictions. At least that's where I believe I am at. :)

[pugwash84]

Me and my Mum have a special link and when I was a child and I was at a sleep over, I got very upset because I missed my Mum and my Mum knew I was upset and went around to pick me up. I don't have telepathy with words but I am very empathetic and I know what people are feeling a lot of the time. It is very hard feeling what other people feel because if they are not feeling good emotion it hurts me emotionally too and if I feel more than one persons emotion I feel so drained emotionally that it makes me ill. I remember once my Mum was trying to sneak Bisto gravy in the house and I hated Bisto gravy and I shouted to my Mum that I didn't like it and she was in the kitchen putting it away. I left her baffled as to how the heck I knew what she was doing lolol. It works the other way too though because if a lot of people are happy then I feel really happy too. I remember my step dad dislocated his finger and I said to him to let me have a look at it and I somehow knew what was wrong with it and I pulled his finger. He was getting so mad at me because it hurt him but I pulled his finger back into place and stopped it hurting. He was puzzled because I was only about 10 then and knew what to do. I think if you are helped as a child to explain emotion it may be easier to explain what feelings are being felt but I never really had the vocabulary to explain what I felt and how my brain worked. So it stayed a mystery to everyone, they just thought I was a bit of a strange child but wasn't nasty about it they just accepted it as part of my personality. I actually think that everyone can do this, just some are more sensitive than others. I think that each persons telepathic abilities will be different too, so some will see pictures and some see colours and some feel emotions instead xx

[BlueGem]

I still need to learn a lot about this subject, but what I can say so far is that I usually just 'feel' things, especially emotions. Sometimes other people's emotions and intent cloud my own, and this can be quite draining, so I'm working on that! Also, I am astutely aware of how happiness and stress are very contagious, which is interesting. I have read that this can correlate to the type/colour aura you have? If anyone could expand that would be great!

Haven't really 'talked' to people as such, but bridges are definitely beginning to form if you catch my drift. As for seeing things simultaneously to these feelings, i think I'm a long way from that!

My two cents...

[Kari Lynn]

Very interesting topic, thankyou for starting it.
When young, and not knowing the reason for my "gifts" or what they were. That is simply what I called them. "GIFTS"
Now that I am being helped/trained by persons who are military trained ARV's. I say I am a remote viewer.
I think the difference lies in the perception of what you are doing.
Example:
When young, I did what I did without thought, guidance, or training. No special techniques or assistance. I just drifted so to speak though visions and sounds and feelings. They were accurate, but of no specific direction or purpose.
In comes the military and some scientists, who want things neat and tidy. To be able to reproduce results in same manner over and over with uniform techniques. This is where remote viewing comes in. To adapt certain perameters to keep all remote viewers using same technique and same perameters to see the target set before them.
That is my take on it anyway. I think Remote Viewing is the use of all the extra sensory perceptions, but in structured set perameters.
I know that many Advance Remote Viewers and psychics will say, Everyone can learn to do this. But they've also said that, not everyone does. Whether they are limited or prohibited by their own limitations and perceptions, religions, or DNA, I don't know.
And then there are those that try and try. Have the desire, and training, yet can't consistently reproduce or perform. It comes hard for them, while for others it seems second nature and easy.
Myself, I fall into both catagories. There are times when no matter how hard I try and want to see something, I can't. Other times, when I least expect it and without even a conscious effort, I'll see the whole moving picture as if I were there. (bilocation)
I can't pin point this to any one reason. I've had agencies give me locations to remote view, and I have done it. And other times, when doing excersizes, I can't do it.
I can't attribute it to anxioty or stress, because there have been times when I was under duress and got my most accurate views.
I also have problems trying to hear and see at the same time (for the guys, yeah, still a problem)
And even though for the most part, being in this state is non physical, so you can pass through walls, and be limitless, I have always been told that you can't read alphabet words, or see numbers. I used to always think. "Bunk! That's just because you put limits on yourself."
And then one time I happened to be Instant Messaging a friend. He lives on the east coast, while I in mid state. I saw his shirt. It was dark navy blue, with white lettering on it. I could see it plain as day, but for the life of me, I couldn't see how those white letters were formed to make a word. I couldn't read it. I could tell they were white, but nothing more. AUGH! So that's why I haven't won the lottery yet! lol When I get it figured out how to work past that, you'll be the first to know. In big bold excited letters! lol.

[Selene]

I am astutely aware of how happiness and stress are very contagious….. I have read that this can correlate to the type/colour aura you have?

This is really two questions, BlueGem. Emotions, like happiness or stress are indeed “contagious” – that is, passed easily from one person to another via the natural and ongoing process of harmonization of our mutual energy fields (auras) when we are together, in groups, or even thinking about another. (Good topic for Valentine’s Day, BTW)

Our personal auras are mutually reciprocal, continually adapting fields that sense and adjust the state of our own energy in order to allow us to adapt most easily to our changing personal environment. That means, in practical terms, that the various frequencies (sorry, there is no better terminology) within our aura will seek balance by harmonizing or adapting to the stronger or more coherent frequencies around us. If someone nearby is experiencing a powerful emotion – of any type – this ‘more coherent frequency’ will automatically ‘entrain’ weaker signals into its field. You may feel that shift – you somehow feel better or worse for being with that person. We’ve all experienced that.

The lesson is to pursue your own spiritual practices – however you define them - whether meditation, athletics, fine art, music or just walking around – whatever helps keep you centered and comfortable within yourself. This is the best way to optimize and make more coherent your own energy field, so that your own strong sense of peace or happiness can become an invisible aid to those around you. Know yourself.

The second question: does this correlate to the type/color of your aura? It’s the other way around, actually: The color of your aura is determined, broadly speaking, by your emotional state. (This is an oversimplification of course, for those of you who are experienced at seeing auras, but…) These color-links are sensed by most people, actually, even if they don’t consciously acknowledge it. It’s even part of the language. We’ve all heard: “Seeing red” for someone who is very, very angry or even passionate, “Blue” for someone depressed (actually, it’s a rather muddy grey-blue), “Yellow” for fearful, “bright” for intellectually gifted, etc. These literary terms are reflective of our perceptions.

The colors of your aura, therefore, change frequently, even though a particular ‘base tone’ might be your personal ‘neutral’ state.


There are times when no matter how hard I try and want to see something, I can't. Other times, when I least expect it and without even a conscious effort, I'll see the whole moving picture as if I were there…. I can't attribute it to anxiety or stress, because there have been times when I was under duress and got my most accurate views.
I also have problems trying to hear and see at the same time…

That’s for sure Kari Lynn. There’s no on/off switch that I’ve ever found, either. There have been times when I’ve been tired, distracted, overfed and – bang! – the message will hit me like a truck.

And other times…… man…… it’s a desert out there…… chirp….chirp…. LOL

The best overall tool I’ve found (and forgive me for repeating myself here) is still my regular, daily personal spiritual practice. My tools for centering myself, my ‘me’ time, what I do without reference to any other activities. With that I can very quickly, within the space of a breath or two, bring myself naturally into my center, into my balance point to begin exploring outward. There is no more useful skill than knowing how to meditate, in my opinion. Awareness begins with self-awareness.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Selene

[BlueGem]

Thanks Selene,

I usually find it very helpful to hear from someone with first-hand experience, rather than just reading some random article or book.

:)

[Carmody]

A related link that has risen to the top of topics at ATS today:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread806980/pg1



Big Name Neuroscientist Announces Telepathy as Proven Fact!

Well well, look what we have here. Dr. Michael Persinger, the famous Neuroscientist at Ontario University, an Atheist hailed by skeptics for his "God helmet" experiments as being evidence against NDE's being evidence for an afterlife, has turned the tables on his skeptic admirers by announcing that he has now discovered a proven telepathic link in his experiments. See his interview below.

www.skeptiko.com...

Neuroscience Researcher and Laurentian University professor, Dr. Michael Persinger, demonstrates telepathy under laboratory conditions.

Claims of telepathy, ESP and other psi phenomena are a mainstay of popular culture but taboo in neuroscience research circles. Fortunately, Dr. Michael Persinger of Canada’s Laurentian University has never been afraid to venture where other researchers fear to go. In the 1980′s Persinger made headlines with his “God Helmet”, a device that stimulates temporal lobes with a weak magnetic field in order to produce religious states.

Now, Persinger has discovered the same type of brain stimulation can create metal states conducive to human telepathy. “What we have found is that if you place two different people at a distance and put a circular magnetic field around both, and you make sure they are connected to the same computer so they get the same stimulation, then if you flash a light in one person’s eye the person in the other room receiving just the magnetic field will show changes in their brain as if they saw the flash of light. We think that’s tremendous because it may be the first macro demonstration of a quantum connection, or so-called quantum entanglement. If true, then there’s another way of potential communication that may have physical applications, for example, in space travel.”

While Persinger’s experiments could prove groundbreaking, he remains doubtful about his controversial findings reaching his colleagues, “I think the critical thing about science is to be open-minded. It’s really important to realize that the true subject matter of science is the pursuit of the unknown. Sadly scientists have become extraordinarily group-oriented. Our most typical critics are not are mystic believer types. They are scientists who have a narrow vision of what the world is like





Michael Persinger: 'No More Secrets' with Telepathy
Posted by Greg at 02:53, 17 May 2011

Dr Michael Persinger of Laurentian University quickly became the science darling of skeptics and atheists a decade ago with news of his 'God Helmet', which appeared to show that 'sensed presence' of supernatural entities (and/or 'God') may be simply due to magnetic disturbance of the brain. Since then however, Persinger has not made himself an overly attractive science reference for skeptics as he has been involved with, and claims to have achieved positive results in, experimental parapsychology.

Earlier this year, Persinger gave the following lecture, titled "No More Secrets". In it, he detailed his theories on the connection between magnetic fields and the brain, in particular how this relationship could facilitate telepathy and remote viewing. He notes particular experiments and individuals (Ingo Swann, Sean Harribance) that seem to give evidence supporting his theories, and makes some fairly extraordinary claims which I'm sure will lead to some debate

9l6VPpDublg

I have a friend who was in Persinger's classes and original experiments on willing students, with 'The God Helmet'. This friend said that the experience was......powerful..and lasted about a week, as it slowly faded.

I find this interesting as the one time I tried Salvia, the experience was intense..and it faded..over approximately a week.

As for Persinger, the friend said that it was weird as feelings go, to see the back row of the classroom seats..filled with attendees in Military uniforms, and suits. Observers from foreign governments, major corporations, and military - owned most of the back row of the classes..as quiet observers. (not a huge bunch of guys by any means, but their presence was a definite ebb and flow)

[Carmody]

This is really two questions, BlueGem. Emotions, like happiness or stress are indeed “contagious” – that is, passed easily from one person to another via the natural and ongoing process of harmonization of our mutual energy fields (auras) when we are together, in groups, or even thinking about another. (Good topic for Valentine’s Day, BTW)

Our personal auras are mutually reciprocal, continually adapting fields that sense and adjust the state of our own energy in order to allow us to adapt most easily to our changing personal environment. That means, in practical terms, that the various frequencies (sorry, there is no better terminology) within our aura will seek balance by harmonizing or adapting to the stronger or more coherent frequencies around us. If someone nearby is experiencing a powerful emotion – of any type – this ‘more coherent frequency’ will automatically ‘entrain’ weaker signals into its field. You may feel that shift – you somehow feel better or worse for being with that person. We’ve all experienced that.

Cheers,

Selene

This can help clear up the thinking that posulates the idea of 'energy vampire'.

What we are speaking of, under the idea of the above thinking..is that the person with the intense negativity is possibly 'bubbled' in their negativity (in their castle, fling arrows or radiating) and radiating it, with force. thus their more potent field entrains all around into a negative state. Thus, the psychology of fear/anger and unknowing.... radiating as psychic energies.

The trick is to be UP..in their presence and radiate peace out to them. If they cannot face that or cannot pick it up, or refuse to do so..well..then..withdraw at that time. Don't put more risk into it. They are the only ones who can deal with their ego block.

Live, exist, and radiate as an example, but don't kill yourself doing it with some one or some energy that has blocked themselves. The time or point in time is obviously not correct and repeating does little more than maintain and entrain.

Change the equation when the time feels right. When stuck, this is the hard part to remember.

[000]

I've given this a bit of further thought. The key factor to know with all Psi is that none of them are separate. Much like a radio tunes into different stations a being tunes into different sets of frequencies which the body then interprets as perception.

There are three prime realms one must consider. The realm of the perceived physical, the realm of quantum flux and the realm of pure consciousness data.

When one as a being is interlaced with a perceived physical body one is in a very dense state where many sets of frequencies are tightly packed and not often in total coherence or harmony with each other. Most folks on this planet of the 7 Billion~ have not taken it upon themselves to form completely coherent sets of frequencies. They have not given themselves a much needed tune up or harmonization. They have been trained through aeons to be more noise/chaos based. When one's frequencies are in that state and not harmonized it is very difficult to tune into any of the available extra sensory faculties.

All Psi skill sets are related to each other although they each have their own distinct uses. Telepathy is something which can more easily be tuned to when in a 'physical' body. It is something that even the most detuned of people still have active to some degree (i.e. sensing when someone is about to call them on the phone or write an email). The frequencies it uses seem to be capable of working through a lot of dense noise.

With the skill set that is referred to as remote viewing, the bandwidth is a bit wider and the frequency set more intricate than telepathy alone. When you are bilocating in the realm of consciousness more of your energy body will be required to duplicate itself to gain more data.

What happens when one remote views is they are accessing consciousness data which is already within them holographically however, when that is done, one's energy body also holographically comes into existence at the 'location' of the consciousness data. The key is to query the field of consciousness for what you are looking for. Since it is infinite you will find what it is you are looking for but it may not be on the same timeline your energy body nexus is within. So there is a lot of discernment involved.

Most remote viewers are trained in CRV (controlled remote viewing) where the visual impressions are not yet fully 'visual' but are more sensed in the way one would feel an object in the dark. When things become more visual and you can begin to clearly see them in your energetic eye, even more bandwidth is required and your energy body is doing most of the data input/output. For your body to be able to perceive this it must be in a harmonic state with little to no chaos. This is why it is important to keep a decent diet and to keep a very quiet mind. It requires a lot of focus but also a lot of 'letting go' at the same time. It is not a focus that you force but a focus that you slide into much like sliding out of body into the dream state at night.

Now, at night when one is out of body and is in far less dense versions of the multiverse, consciousness data can be acquired much more smoothly and accurately. However, it still takes the same kind of sliding into focus as when awake. This is where lucid dreaming comes in very handy. There is no 'ceiling' to how far one can take lucid dreaming skills and eventually, when well practiced, they evolve into full out of body Psi skill sets. Some beings will experience and utilize these skill sets more automatically because they have used them prior to being interlaced with a physical body.

In this life I have had to re-integrate all skill sets within my body to be able to use them properly. It has been about finding the lower harmonics of the same frequency sets used out of body as an energy being and tuning my body to transceive those lower harmonics and use my energy body to transpose them into their natural frequency sets,

What I don't like to do is give names to any of the skill sets because there are so many of them. There are an infinity of methods one can use to transceive consciousness data and when a being begins to practice, those methods can become customized and more unique than a snow flake. What I refer to as remote viewing may be very different from what someone else refers to as remote viewing. An example being that I do not use CRV, rather preferring my own methods because they work best for my energetic situation.

There is another aspect to this too which is being on the receiving end of Psi transmissions. To be able to receive them one must know which stations, which sets of frequencies, to tune into. At first it can be a bit challenging in a body and it requires silence and stillness of mind. Once you receive a transmission from an individual or a group who are using preferred frequencies and/or sidebands you get a 'taste' for it. Every 'station' has its own unique flavour which you will be able to discern with practice.

In my own experience here in this life, I learned some of the key 'flavours' I had to tune into and harmonize with by using very small amounts of various psychedelic substances. DMT was the one which I was guided to use as a final 'patch in' to the private lines I now use frequently to communicate with family, friends, colleagues et al who decided not to incarnate in bodies for this particulate set of missions. I do not use these substances any more aside from infrequent micro-doses of MDMA when I need to re-harmonize or fine tune. Alternately I also use it to 'scramble' my signal if I need to get out of a consciousness data cloud quickly.

Otherwise, I smoke a very small amount of cigarettes per day and drink coffee and tea. I moderate their use to stay within a certain frame of frequencies which I must stay in until the rest of the local consciousness system and quantum flux catches up at which point I will no longer need them. Such is life when incarnation is a direct leap from life as an energy being to life within a physical being. I'm not 'used to' the natural set of frequencies in this physical realm so I attenuate to them while they are changing to a more comfortable level. I also live a life which is for the most part isolated and other than my online friends and colleagues I do not have what one would call a 'social life' and that is exactly how it must be in my case for now.

In any case, remember that all Psi skill sets are connected in one way or another (i.e. remote viewing is also remote influencing on a much more subtle level as one cannot bilocate without effecting, to some degree, what one is bilocating to). They are connected and infinite just like the electromagnetic wave spectrum is infinite and connected. Waveforms are the 'quantum flux' realm and the nexus where they all meet is in the realm of pure consciousness data, the zero-point.

Hope this helps, I know words are limited in their descriptive capability but I gave it a go.

[Selene]

Excellent description, 000! One of the best and clearest I've ever come across.

Thanks very, very much.

Cheers,

Selene

[ivaray]

Hope it is never too late to add to the discussion post..... Thanks for sharing the whole lecture by Perssinger. I am aware of his work through religion and science field of study. I really enjoyed the end of the whole lecture--imagine a new literacy, where by which you could transform the world into a peaceful place. Can you imagine you could feel pain or joy of the others? No more secrets….. Certainly, the idea is appealing if one desires the new humanism, which I do. Though, this idea sounds stunning if you think in terms of privacy…. Hmm… We would not need to write any longer diaries. Perhaps, no more poetry? Would we substitute the poetic aspect of our lives by the instant telepathy energy transformation? This seems to me the possible down-side.... I think I have a better idea. We will all become poetic!

[eileenrose]

Hi Ivaray,
You mention "would we substitue the poetic aspect of our lives by the instant telephathy energy transformation"

I will say, not having watched this video (I know...I will be dammed in my next lifetime), that I am pretty good at remote viewing and getting the hang of limited telepathy (though it has no words associated with it-is my feeling....ie you can't put it in a box and label it) and you have to be in the energy flow patterns that are emanating around us....sort of like you are the flow and the flow is you (or river of life or whatever terminology you have for 'being with what is'), which pretty much takes all your energy.

I feel creative and am creating, but not necessarily from a need by ego to be heard/felt/seen. ie you are less into pleasing others and more about pleasing/pleasuring yourself.

so I do whatever rocks my boat....and tend to worry (less and less) about what others feel/think/do about it.

Which can put you at odds with the rest of society (if they don't like your ideas/worth).

But again, as ego is mute (it is one or the other, over laden ego or ego-less and telepathic....again, using words that don't really fit together here), life becomes self expressing. You are just along for the ride.

The trick is to get yourself out of the way.
eileen rose

[ivaray]

You might be right, I might be wrong, or we might be beyond those polarizing words... I admire everyone who can go beyond the self or ego-shell, and I admire your superiority. I just do not know how to get "out of the way" while I have all bits of my consciousness together and being fully alert... I corrected my post with a possibility that we all might become more like poets, more poetic, transforming images and feelings with no firewalls... Actually, I think I am the most times "out of the way" when I write something close to poetry or read mind opening books, enjoy music... If we all become more poetic, this might be fun and a pleasant experience for all humanity! I am the optimist generally, I am more melancholic when verses take me over.... I am like a river flow when I am poetic, I am against the stream when I am fully awake and aware of the present human predicament. I wish I can go, like you do, straight to the middle and achieve unity of opposites without walking blindfolded on the rope over the scary canyon.

[eileenrose]

You might be right, I might be wrong, or we might be beyond those polarizing words... I admire everyone who can go beyond the self or ego-shell, and I admire your superiority. I just do not know how to get "out of the way" while I have all bits of my consciousness together... I corrected my post with a possibility that we all might become more like poets and more poetic... Actually, I think I am the most times "out of the way" when I write something close to poetry... If we all become more poetic, this might be fun and a pleasent experience for all humanity! I am the optimist generally, I am more melancholic when verses take me over.... I am like a river flow when I am poetic, I am against the stream when I am fully awake and aware of the present human predicament. I wish I can go, like you do, straight to the middle and achieve unity of opposites without walking blindfloded on the rope over the scary canyon.

I was watching a TV movie and on the side taking it apart (at the seams) because the special effects they offered were inaccurate (to my thinking). But not being a physics major, I finally just shrugged and enjoyed the show (after bugging several people about it....who could care less....ah...the uneducated masses....oh well).

So I am just reading you and you asked "any telepath" to answer your question and I, as a little bit of one, did. And now I am going back to enjoy the show.

There isn't anything to fix. There isn't anywhere to go (with this line of questioning).

Find the right question (more like: what is your passion?) and begin living.
The rest will follow (if you stay true to who you are....what makes you feel alive....).

eileen rose

[ivaray]

"I wish I can go, like you do, go straight to the middle and achieve unity of opposites without walking blindfolded on the rope over the scary canyon."-- The scary canyon being an ability for remote viewing used by advanced technologies--for the "bee-hive" centers of powers and thier new collective data gathering--which purpose is unknown and fully transparent to us.
I agree that bliss is within, or where is your passion....Is this very being of you detached from the self and just happens? It might be, all poetic/art work is very much intuitive, similar to shamanic trance like state. When I say poetic, I really refer to the old Greek etymology of "poiesis," which means a human ability to “make something,” be creative, sincere, benevolent, spontaneous, generous, the source of all worlds we are able to create....

I appreciate your responses.

[Hughe]

@ivaray

Have you been to altered state of mind or completely loose yourself?
The closest things to this state is feeling high by drug or orgasm during sex. These are mechanical, short pulse of pleasure and fades away quickly.
Going to the altered state by meditation or other methods put oneself into oneness with the world and your mind is so clear. You exist without limitation of physical body. It's not the Out of Body state or astral travel. Being in active as observer in this state makes you do amazing things. Being passive probably rejuvenate body which eventually leads into active mind.

[Selene]

Dear Ivaray, it seems to me that quite possibly you may be getting a bit ahead of yourself in your spiritual growth and putting too much focus on your mind’s ideas in favor of your actual life experience. This is not unusual; it’s perfectly okay. But it can confuse you and cause you to metaphorically trip over your own two feet while busily chasing moonbeams.


"I wish I can go, like you do, straight to the middle and achieve unity of opposites without walking blindfolded on the rope over the scary canyon."-- The scary canyon being an ability for remote viewing using advanced technologies for the "bee-hive" centers of powers based on a new collective data gathering, which purpose is unknown and fully transparent to us…

Reading about –or thinking about – any activity will never replace actually doing it. Any more than reading a recipe can replace tasting the actual food. The largest part of our useful knowledge comes from our actual experience. But you know that, I’m sure.

Anyone who wants to learn to play the violin – regardless of their inherent talent or desire to play music – will need to go through the necessary process of learning how to hold a bow and coax pleasant sounds out of recalcitrant strings. With hours of squeaky noises at first, to be sure. And hours and hours of practice thereafter.

Psychic skills are no less amenable to actual practice. The music will come, but you need to do the work.

Start from where you are. And it doesn’t really matter where that is. The next step for each of us is the next step. Trust your own intuition. We are all here putting one foot in front of the other on our own path forward.

I hope this is helpful. And thank you as well, Eileenrose, for your excellent insights here. Please continue!

All my best wishes,

Selene

[mahalall]

Very insightful knowledge contained within this thread- thankyou,
With reference to Michael Persinger's: 'no more secrets' lecture, if you were trying to hide or hide something, one might want to impair the perceptual viewers right hemisphere?
light still passes through the haze of clouds!