Is pain the medicine we need to evolve.??

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Hi..

If you put a group of people together on a planet, you give them free will and let them go.
What do you get?? Thousands of years in harmony and people who are wise beyond our understanding?
Naaa I dont think you have much to learn down "here" in harmony.
Why!? I think our minds are limited down here. I think the next step/stage our minds will be past our understanding right now.
And to live in harmony, will be essential with a mind like that.

Or do you get "our" situation we got here now, you learned the hard way how things can be,
then you wake up to the truth in the end?

If we whent the hard way, aren't the psychopathic leaders of this world necessary to our common goal?
What goal!? To learn and evolve beyond fear,greed..etc To be able to see past your own needs and help others?
To be ready for the next step?

Does that mean that some need more pain to wake up!??
I don't think we are talking about the children who are starving to death every day now.
I think we all know what sleepers I am talking about.
Maybe the leader really doing us a favour without knowing it themselfs!?
Is quite clear that irony is where “the literal meaning is opposite to the intended.

Are we about to become part of the watchers in the skies on other 3D planets?
with the understanding that we can never interfere! because they need to go through what we did and learn from that!?

I'm just brainstorming...

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[transitionalman]

Yes. Bill Wood said "We are the caterpillar transforming into the butterfly. All the other races have gone through this before and are watching the inevitable occur. But to us this process is unknown lol. Beautiful post : )

[stardustaquarion]

I think the problem started with the salvacionist agenda, that is 3000 ya aprox http://www.metahistory.org/Lexicon/lexicon_Z.php

Since then, we had conquests rather than cooperative living, wars and more wars and more wars...and all in the name of Melchizedek...sad...we lost the plot...we stopped enjoying life and our bodies to seek escape from this reality because this reality became unberable to us

[Herbert]

Something is supposed to be happening here on Earth which has never ever happened before in the entire history of this Universe. We are told that for that reason nobody knows what is going to happen. If that is true and that is why so many off-worlders are watching and interested in this transformation, then this must be something spectacular. We've all experienced lots of pain in many forms over many lifetimes to reach this point of so-called graduation. Did we go through all the pain with a noble goal in mind? The intention is to create a chain reaction of growth through the Universe which will be initiated by Earth graduates. It is precisely because we have experienced pain that we know the value of joy.

I will add that it is precisely because of our ignorance (the experience of isolation) that we can create infinite variety. Perhaps our ultimate purpose is to become the problem solvers of the Universe. Our youthful exuberance will return when the pain is gone. It will act like a slingshot.

[eileenrose]

Paul Lowe covering a little of this "do we need the pain in order to awaken from our sleep" issue some of us are in the middle of having.

If you listen or read him here is an audio he recorded a few weeks ago (if you are new to his work, there a few new videos I can link or you can go to www.newrealities.com where they host a blog, of sorts, of some of his latest writings).

"Pain is Part of the Process" ...Title

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbeRG5r64T4

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I am usually happy with the pain level I am at....as it renders the conditions necessary that I need to awaken. When it is too much, then I ask for assistance (from a higher power) or take medications (that probably only put it off a little longer).

[Mark]

As uncomfortable as it may be, too many are still too comfortable in their lives. Too many are still going about their daily toils as if everything is all good. Too many are still benefiting and enjoying a system built upon inequality and subjugation. If these are the days indeed, then all of that will have to crumble. Those living in the West, in Europe, N. America, down under, will have to have their lifestyles downgraded to experience the kind of life that the rest of the world who does not enjoy being near the top of the pyramid experiences. We in the West do live near the top of the pyramid, make no mistake. Look up the top 5% in wealth the world across and be amazed at how well you or people you know are doing. Many don't know what real material hardship is. At a certain stage, emotional pain accompanies it. But that is the door through which many say it is necessary to go in order to move past consumer and elitist mentalities. Folks don't really want to think about all that. Let alone experience it.