Some simple rules for interaction with aliens

[Eric J (Viking)]

Found this on my travels...

Feel free to add, agree, or disagree with any of the points or opinion...this is an fresh canvas...

1. Listen for extra details. Don't assume you/we know all about aliens.

2. Don't appoint yourself a representative of humankind. Seven billion people here expect you to respect the global responsibility. Don't make yourself look ridiculous by saying you're an ambassador. You can't possibly be—unless named by an elected representative global assembly.

3. Don't offer information that can be used to (possibly criminally) manipulate humankind. Don't prime aliens on strategies for easy ways to "handle" humans. Some aliens, i.e. so called "gray" related colonizers, have been known to ask about just that. If you do inform them that way, other neighboring aliens and humans will cite you for naively violating your own people.

4. Remember, and be sure to remind aliens that humans are in the process of a fast burst of change, so it takes time for new, alien-related ideas to sink in. Remember how long it took you to feel comfortable with how aliens think and behave?

5. Always think and act as though the interaction includes other humans. Otherwise, you may stray unwittingly or the aliens may try to inflate your ego, thus making easy, stupid play of you. Please, report what you learn to other humans---allow their inputs and critiques in order to better test and refine your observations.

6. Get rid of all violent or misplaced metaphor in your communications with aliens (and in mind communications with humans). That makes for a much greater, more agreeable and trusting community (more individuals interacting with common purpose).

7. Remember that alien mind and technology looks at and perceives the whole cloud of your thinking, not just a linear string of words you emphasize. If you can, try to arrange your thoughts so that there are different, increasingly more subtle envelopes, or clouds of considerations surrounding any thought. Aliens can be expected to have mastered the ability to communicate those secondary and/or tertiary thought clouds effectively (which is probably an easier way to think, not harder).

8. Given their larger experience, expect aliens to subtly try to frame the context of the interaction. They may try to give you hints or indirectly steer your inquiry. Know when they go coldly silent for fear of saying too much---those moments are indicators of how their approach to humankind is structured.

9. Don't expect aliens to answer your every question or fill your every cup. Don't ask for material reward, which would contaminate both your and their thinking.

10. Be careful to watch for and report on any manipulative behaviors (by definition neurotic) or resource motivations among any aliens. Imagine what your human peers will think if you're perceived to be helping an alien colonizer.

11. Look and listen for indications of further, either monitoring or sub-networked aliens (other populations) either listening to, or possibly orchestrating the doings of the alien(s) you interact with. Older, more evolved populations may be bundled into it.

12. Keep in mind the fact that over time, aliens can be expected to have moderated or have genetically altered the intensity of their emotions in order to better work together. So, any gushes of, or strong emotions on your part may be seen as unusual, or, in some cases, even primitive, by aliens. Expect to see/perceive subdued, relatively dry emotions among aliens (as though the volume were simply turned down one half or less).

13. Expect to encounter aliens who value the collective social identity over individual identity. Group mind interactions will have cultivated this for long periods of their histories.

14. Finally, be aware that, due to intricate long-distance networks of interactions, aliens probably think of "civilization" as a greater cosmic complexity, rather than framing it in terms of one population or another. However, on the other hand, don't fall for aliens who tell you that they officially represent that entire, universal civilization. Look for counter-posed checks and balances between alien populations, a hoped-for (yet not always realized) universal equivalency, overall.

15. Above all else, do not abandon all critique when interacting with aliens. Instead, work to transcribe and refine your critique. Keep it alive.

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viking

[Cilka]

I am sooo ready to have a short and simple chat with our ET friends. I will show them a way from where they came from. An UNWELCOME sign is all I need for communicating with them effectively.

[D-Day]

Good list viking, here are some of mine:

Be aware that some ET's/ED's have the ability to alter their appearnce and take on differnet forms. People should be particularly wary of any being who presents itself as a religious figure or deity e.g. Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Mohammed, Saints, Angels etc. Any being who's intention it is to manipulate, deceive or control us would likely seek to explit our faith in religions by assuming the role of "religious/spiritual mentor" or higher authority. I am not suggesting that people immediately write such beings off as imposters, however I I do feel it would be in a their best interests to exercise hightened levels of vigilance/discernment in such situations.

Be wary of any being who "talks down to you" as though you are a child or expresses themselves with a condescending tone. Any beng who truly understands who/what human beings are and our purpose here would only approach us with the highest degree of respect, admiration and reverence. Contrary to what some would have us believe, humans are not the scourge of the Universe, and we are not pitifiul, unintelligent, unenlightened beings either (at least not at a Spirit/Soul level anyway)!

Be wary of any being who seeks to offer us "an easy way out" or an "escape" from all our problems. Beings who are truly coming from a place of understanding and unconditional love simply would not offer to solve all our problems for us. Such beings would be far more likely to offer us guidance, or perhaps some helpful "tools", but ultimately they would much rather have us learning and doing things for ourselves.

Above all else, we should learn to tune itno and trust the inner guidance that emanates from our hearts! If interacting with a being feels like interacting with a close family member (brother, sister, mother, father) and you feel as though it's ok to express yourself without fear of judgement or predjudice then chances are you're probably dealing with "one of the good guys".

By the same token, if you feel as though you are not allowed to express yourself or to question things, or that you're expected to blindly accept and follow instructions/directions then you may very well be dealing with a being who does not have you're best interests in mind.

[NancyV]

I guess I would not be able to or choose to abide by any of those "rules for interaction with aliens". One time I had an alien encounter when I was sitting up in bed reading in the early evening. A very hairy 7'-8' tall alien walked into my room through the wall. He seemed very grumpy and gruff with a sort of dour expression on his face. I immediately said "what the HELL are you doing here?" He was somewhat surprised that I saw him and spoke telepathically saying "It's my job, I'm supposed to watch you". It could have meant guard or observe in addition to watch. Telepathy doesn't always translate easily into words... it's more of a thought form or bundle that you understand without words.

I then said in a rather loud voice "Get the F**K out of my room! I don't want you watching me! and don't come back!" After looking at me with a slightly more grumpy expression while thinking grumbling sorts of thoughts like "Geeeez, these humans! grumble.. grumble". He then turned around and walked out through the wall. I got up and went into the hallway to see if I could still see him but he was gone. If he hadn't been so grumpy I might have wanted to talk more with him but I could feel his energy and he wasn't really happy about whatever he was doing and seemed quite irritable, so I got irritable too.

I don't think I'm capable of feeling overwhelmed no matter how powerful a being I find myself in the presence of. We humans are just as powerful as any aliens or other dimensional beings. There is no reason to feel they are any greater than you are and if they appear to you they must want something you have or they might be observing you. If I haven't given my permission to be observed and one just walks in on me, I most likely will be aggressive with my energy until I decide if I like the being enough to communicate further with it.

As far as representing earth or any government or country, I think most people would feel that encounters with aliens are personal and not an opportunity to start some kind of political negotiations. Even if you're not overly startled it still only relates to you, not to the earth, not to the government. As far as wanting anything from them?? No way. I am extremely happy being a human with the incredible powers and abilities we humans have. We have an eternal soul that is connected to and part of the Source. Who needs anything from aliens?

The hairy alien didn't return, unless he changed his form and became the golden dragon that showed up a few days later. I let the dragon hang out in my living room. It showed up almost every day and just sat behind the couch. My agreement with the dragon was that if it didn't bother me it was welcome to stay so it was there for a couple of months on and off. It's energy was calm but powerful. At the time I thought it was an other-dimensional being but I suppose it could have been an alien who shifted its shape into one it knew I would like.

[Mu2143]

Here is my advice when you are approached by ET's and you don't know who you are
tell them you do not need any help and don't take any offers they have. Otherwise you are in agreement with them.

You did not came here to this planet to have contact where you come from you already have.

[eileenrose]

I assume this is a joke?

I left this forum a year ago, came back and it has gone way way off.....

Not much to say. Other than...."live long and prosper"

[Explodey]

Interesting.... I interact with "Aliens" every other day... The only "rule" I follow is - "Do unto others..." no problems so far. :)

PS. I refer to "Aliens'" as, any being that is currently separated from myself through the filter of my own paradigm... just sayin'

X

[Tane Mahuta]

Perhaps we should learn how to interact with each other....first!!

Interesting post viking!

TM

[Lettherebelight]

It's hard to know how you would react until you are in the situation!,

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[9eagle9]

Bring your own probe, you don't know where theirs has been at.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Bring your own probe, you don't know where theirs has been at.

LOL ... well if you bump into any 'greys' make sure they're the good guys! :biggrin1:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5-UgTfglAos/Se8qXR6WHYI/AAAAAAAAARI/J87llHMbKb4/s320/alienProbe.jpg

viking

[Camilo]

I rather keep my distance from them. I honor and respect their reality and ask the same courtesy.

[Heartsong]

Good Lord! Those people I worked with for 30 years must have been aliens! Same interpersonal dynamics apply.

[Snoweagle]

Apparently, whilst considered "automatons" for hyper-dimensional super aliens exploring our reality, the "Greys" are said to be "herbivates" ie made of plant biology and chemistry.
Therefore, when accosted by them, bite their wholesome arses :-)
Has Kerry or Bill interviewed anyone that confirm flavours: as a recently converted vegan that I am, it would be a change from routine shopping to have a pantry full of delicacies that would walk to the plate. :-)

[DreamsInDigital]

I personally find threads like this difficult, specially for those of us that have regular consistent interaction with humanoid or even non-humanoid ET/ED's. I've had regular interaction/contact with a pair of ET/ED's for well over 27yrs now. But, I suppose the best thing that comes out of threads like these is they consistently show the absolute complete lack of knowledge and understanding that Terrans have about the complexity of ET/ED interaction and presence. And point out the noxious amounts of misinformation people have been force fed and are willing to believe, even when pointed out to be consistently wrong. As well the broad strokes some are willing to paint the whole gament of ET/ED's with, which to me shows how narrow minded and limited in their perspective and perception of reality they really are.

[THIRDEYE]

nancyv ty for your post and feed back...i would give and arm and a leg to expierience what you have with the ets that visited you....light love and abundance too alll...thirdeye...

[onawah]

Until many more humans have had direct Contact, this will continue to be the case, most likely.
When very enlightened beings have incarnated on Earth such as the Buddha, etc, to help banish the darkness from people's minds, they usually seek to have as much contact with as many people as possible.
It is from direct perception that we really learn, not from second hand accounts.


I personally find threads like this difficult, specially for those of us that have regular consistent interaction with humanoid or even non-humanoid ET/ED's. I've had regular interaction/contact with a pair of ET/ED's for well over 27yrs now. But, I suppose the best thing that comes out of threads like these is they consistently show the absolute complete lack of knowledge and understanding that Terrans have about the complexity of ET/ED interaction and presence. And point out the noxious amounts of misinformation people have been force fed and are willing to believe, even when pointed out to be consistently wrong. As well the broad strokes some are willing to paint the whole gament of ET/ED's with, which to me shows how narrow minded and limited in their perspective and perception of reality they really are.

[meat suit]

I personally find threads like this difficult, specially for those of us that have regular consistent interaction with humanoid or even non-humanoid ET/ED's. I've had regular interaction/contact with a pair of ET/ED's for well over 27yrs now. But, I suppose the best thing that comes out of threads like these is they consistently show the absolute complete lack of knowledge and understanding that Terrans have about the complexity of ET/ED interaction and presence. And point out the noxious amounts of misinformation people have been force fed and are willing to believe, even when pointed out to be consistently wrong. As well the broad strokes some are willing to paint the whole gament of ET/ED's with, which to me shows how narrow minded and limited in their perspective and perception of reality they really are.

hija Dreams,
you are a tease, fancy giving us some of the insights that the rest of us dont have?

cheers
meat

[pugwash84]

Learning Makaton sign language is good because it's a simple sign language for those aliens that cant talk. Don't touch them because some aliens don't like to be touched. Don't ask for OR GIVE technology, we may assume these beings are more intelligent but they might not have the same tech as us and it could be dangerous. Oh and some aliens might not know what sarcasm is (even I get confused with sarcasm, so imagine what an alien would think).

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Oh and don't stare at them in a certain place to see if they have genitals, it's not polite :D

[Fundy Gemini]

One rule not mentioned-
NEVER accept a collect call!

:-)

sorry, couldn't resist :)

[onawah]

Perhaps I should add that second hand accounts are fine, but not a substitute for first hand experience.
And witnesses en masse are another good way to really change the public's perception, as when a lot of people have the same experience simultaneously, so that individual ego filters cannot color the experience with misperceptions.
I think it's time we had a lot more of ALL kinds of witnessing.
And that most people who are aware feel we've been asked to go on faith for too long.
Faith is fine, but at some point, there has to be some tangible, verifiable proof.
There is still not enough of the latter, IMHO.
Even most of the UFO sightings may be our own black ops ships, for all we know.
It's certain that a lot of them are, and very few people actually know how numerous and sophisticated our own ships have become at this point.
There are reports that black ops have been successful in fooling people into thinking they are experiencing real ETs when in fact, they are being mind-controlled, or are seeing AI and cloned beings.
They can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but they can't fool all of the people all of the time.
I think that if ETs want the human race to really know that they exist, they are going to have to realize that at least some extraordinary measures will have to be taken to counteract these efforts from TPTW, and really give us some incontrovertible evidence that everyone can see and understand.
It will certainly upset some apple carts, but with our world teetering on the brink as it is now, I think it's safer to upset the carts then allow the same old games to continue.

[EnergyGardener]

I have little memory of my many experiences. Mostly only remember the ending, getting buzzed into paralysis, and I suspect, wiped my conscious memory of the affairs. Though while getting buzzed I was never allowed to see them, I was very aware they were standing around me.

However, when I meditate, there are always large eyes looking back into me. Will be interesting to some day soon realize how many (EDs or ETs) are always around us.

Speaking of probing, that I do have a very strong memory of that, the spinning egg-beater thing. Anyone else? Is that for boys and girls, or only boys?

[emeraldcity]

Wow Viking. Well done. This is a very clear minded summary regarding ET/Human interaction - and with plenty of wisdom too, vs the love-and-light galactic brotherhood messages which seem to throw toss out reason for hopes that ET is pure good.

I recently found a document called "The Ethics of Contact" which puts forth a standard by which all ET/Human contact can be evaluated. Maybe some of these points could be added to your 15 point summary.

The Ethics of Contact
By Marshall Vian Summers

Humanity now stands at the threshold of space. Craft of unknown origin have been sighted flying unimpeded in our skies with ever greater frequency since the end of World War II. Contact has begun, but it is Contact that is happening behind the scenes. Governments are keeping their secrets while the public remains unaware and unprepared.

Now for the first time, we have been sent a preparation and a revelation about the reality and spirituality of the Greater Community of intelligent life in the Universe. This preparation addresses the unprecedented challenges facing humanity and the great opportunity for human unity and cooperation that meeting such challenges will require.

The preparation comes from two distinct sources: the first in the form of two sets of Briefings from a network of free nations in our local Universe who call themselves the Allies of Humanity. The Allies are not visiting our world, but have sent observers in secret to observe the extraterrestrial Intervention that is occurring in our world. The two sets of Briefings present the Allies' report to humanity.

The second origin of this preparation is a vast series of prophetic communications, a New Message for Humanity, provided by the Creator of all life. Contained within this New Message is the knowledge and wisdom that humanity will need to avoid environmental disaster and the growing risk of human conflict, to establish human unity and to prepare for the complexity of living within the Greater Community.

Both of these sources, the Allies of Humanity and the New Message, reveal the real nature of the extraterrestrial presence in the world today and what humanity must know and do to prepare for what surely is the greatest event in human history.

The Allies Briefings show how the Intervention is taking place in our world and how it is seeking to achieve its goals here. Acting in a clandestine and surreptitious manner, the Intervention is engaged in a coordinated set of activities to influence human perception and to take advantage of human ignorance, conflict and superstition to gain dominance in our world without the use of force.

The Allies Briefings encourage us at every turn to take an active role in discerning and opposing this extraterrestrial Intervention. The Briefings emphasize that humanity does not yet possess the resident wisdom, unity or discernment to safely engage in meaningful Contact and that those races who could be beneficial to us in the future do not seek engagement here for this reason.

The Briefings emphasize that, almost without exception, the first races to visit the shores of emerging worlds such as our own represent resource explores and economic collectives—opportunistic groups that seek to gain access to the resources of emerging worlds, groups that are not held in high esteem amongst advanced nations in our region of space.

This Intervention it taking place at a time of growing human conflict, resource depletion and environmental change in the world. The Briefings reveal why this is taking place at this time and why humanity is in such a vulnerable position. The Intervention will present itself as powerful and enlightened organizations who are capable of saving the human family. Yet it is all a deception to an unknowing and unsuspecting humanity.

The great need before us is to prepare for the Greater Community practically, politically and spiritually. This includes informing the peoples of the world of humanity’s vulnerability in the face of the Intervention, discerning our rights and priorities as the native peoples of this world and establishing our own Ethics of Contact and Rules of Engagement concerning all present and future encounters with other races in the Universe.

Looking at the natural world and back through human history amply demonstrates to us the lessons of intervention. Nature teaches us that competition for resources is an integral part of nature. History teaches us that intervention by one culture upon another is always carried out for self-interest and has an overriding and often devastating impact upon the culture and freedom of the people being discovered.

While it is conceivable that those extraterrestrial races visiting our world may be an exception to this rule, such an exception would have to be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt by giving humanity the right to assess any proposal for visitation and to determine the Rules of Engagement. This has certainly not occurred. Instead, in humanity’s experience of Contact so far, we have had our authority and proprietary rights as the native people of this world circumvented. The “visitors” have pursued their own agenda, without regard for humanity’s approval or informed participation. The world is being infiltrated, and the growing numbers of people who have been influenced and taken by the Intervention are being persuaded that this infiltration is for humanity’s own good.

As both the Allies Briefings and much of the UFO research clearly indicate, ethical contact is not occurring. The following are only a few of the key ethical issues regarding the extraterrestrial Contact as it is occurring today:

- visitation and occupation without informed consent by citizens of this world instead of by secret government groups or other organizations

- non-disclosure of intentions and fostering secrecy and deception as opposed to openness, trust and negotiation

- breeching planetary and national boundaries with impunity

- displays of technological power over cities and military installations risking national security

- fostering human dependency through offers of technology to a less advanced or less developed native race

- violations of basic human rights in abducting people against their will and subjecting them to often terrifying procedures, resulting in psychological trauma and social isolation

- exploitation of resources, both human and biological

- behind the scenes exacerbation of human conflict


While it may be appropriate for a foreign race to share with us their experience and wisdom from afar, as the Allies Briefings have done, it is not appropriate for races to come here uninvited and attempt to interfere in and manipulate human affairs, even under the guise of helping us. Given the level of humanity’s development at this time as a young and divided race, no true ally of humanity would attempt this, for it would require them to direct, control and manipulate the minds and hearts of people.

Humanity has not had the opportunity to establish its own Rules of Engagement or set the boundaries that every native race must establish for its own safety, security, and sovereignty in the Universe. Doing so would foster human unity and cooperation because our nations and peoples would have to work together to accomplish such a task. This action would require the awareness that we are one people sharing one world, that we are not alone in the Universe and that our boundaries to space must be established and protected. This emphasis on planetary security over national security would be an evolutionary step for humanity. Tragically, this necessary developmental process is now being circumvented and the world’s peoples remain unaware and unprepared.

The Allies’ message to humanity is a demonstration of what ethical Contact really is. They are maintaining a hands-off approach, respecting our sovereignty, our native abilities and our authority while encouraging the unity and Greater Community preparation that the human family is going to need in order to establish itself as a free race amidst a vast and complex interaction between nations and worlds within the Greater Community—an environment to which we have not yet adapted.

While many people doubt that humanity has the power and integrity to meet its own needs and challenges today and in the future, the Allies assure us that we do have this power—the spiritual power of Knowledge and the power of human ingenuity—which resides within all of us and that we must now use on our own behalf, especially in the face of competition from beyond the world. No one in the Universe is going to come and save us, and those races who claim to be here for this purpose represent our greatest threat.

The preparation for humanity’s emergence into the Greater Community has been given. The two sets of the Allies of Humanity Briefings and the sacred texts of the New Message are available to readers everywhere. They can be viewed here at AlliesofHumanity.org and NewMessage.org . Many of the writings and recordings are now available free online. Together they provide the means for offsetting the Intervention, bringing an end to human conflict and preparing nations and peoples of this world to face a changing world as we stand at the threshold of space. This is the only such preparation in the world today and represents a new way forward for humanity.

In response to the Allies Briefings, a group of dedicated readers have crafted a document entitled the Declaration of Human Sovereignty. Modeled on the United States’ Declaration of Independence, the Declaration of Human Sovereignty sets out to establish the Ethics of Contact and the Rules of Engagement that we, as the native peoples of the world, now desperately need in order to foster human unity and to preserve human freedom and sovereignty.

As the indigenous people of this world, we have the right and responsibility to determine when and how visitation will occur and who may enter our world. We must let it be known to all nations and groups in the Universe who are aware of our existence that we are a self-determined race and that we intend to exercise our rights and responsibilities as an emerging race of free people in the Greater Community. The Declaration of Human Sovereignty is a beginning step and can be read online at HumanSovereignty.org .

[9eagle9]

The good news is.....you may end up doing just that.


nancyv ty for your post and feed back...i would give and arm and a leg to expierience what you have with the ets that visited you....light love and abundance too alll...thirdeye...

[Rantaak]

I disagree with the notion of telling people what to do (ethics) but I also do not believe in free will.