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Muzz
15th February 2012, 10:44
From Alex Jones interview with Ed Asner -
On this Monday, February 13 edition of the Alex Jones Show, Alex talks with film, television, stage, and voice actor and former president of the Screen Actors Guild, Ed Asner. Mr. Asner will play the chairman of a new investigation of the September 11th attacks in the film "A Violation of Trust," formerly "Confessions of a 9/11 Conspirator." The film will pit the 9/11 Commission Report and the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) reports against the work of 9/11 researcher Dr. David Ray Griffin and the scientific research highlighted by leading 9/11 truth organizations, including Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth.
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Navy Seals Say False Flag to be Blamed on Iran May Happen at Anytime: Ed Asner
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
February 14, 2012
Appearing on the Alex Jones Show on Monday, Emmy Award-winning actor Ed Asner said Navy Seals have told him military action against Iran is forthcoming and will be preceded by a false flag attack. more (http://www.infowars.com/navy-seals-say-false-flag-to-be-blamed-on-iran-may-happen-at-anytime-ed-asner/)
spiritguide
15th February 2012, 12:47
The candles are being lit one by one and soon will be a flood of light to eliminate the darkness we are experiencing. Shine on brothers and sisters and we shall disolve the chains that bind.
:peace:
Calz
15th February 2012, 16:06
Every needs to hear this one (thanx Muzz).
Clearly not the only source but the drumbeats are growing louder by the day and here we are *ONCE AGAIN* with that sinking in quicksand feeling watching this all unfold and not being able to stop it. Making the information go viral has helped in the past ... who knows this time. This is a programmed reality for them. Many "white hat types" in the military to be sure ... but even there (and one mentioned in this vid) many admirals and generals have mysteriously retired making one wonder how many of those "good guys" are left in a position to really matter.
Stakes are *way* higher this time.
This is the "big show" the cabal has been building towards for many many years.
Caveat and perhaps a *possible* ray of hope out of all this nuggetry is remembering how often our "benevolent brethren" have shut down/taken offline nukes over the last few decades. One wonders if all out world war did, indeed, start to break out if that would literally force disclosure???
Some spiritual sources have suggested humanity will not be allowed to destroy the planet this time ... fwiw
:noidea::pray:
DreamsInDigital
15th February 2012, 16:39
Far as I understand it, that is the case. That the NWO just will absolutely not be permitted to "wage war". And that if Israel even "thinks" they are going to do anything "naughty" they're going on "lock down." And, that if China or US even try to start anything, they will reap the full blast of "hell from above" without innocent lives being lost.
mojo
15th February 2012, 16:57
Would they be so arrogant as to perpetuate an invasion and think they will get off scott free?...a non-interference policy may become null and void if false accusations are aimed at beings that are benevolent, and those beings might then reveal the sinister plans of tptb. It would be suicide to start a false flag unless they wanted to destroy most of humanity imho.
Alie
15th February 2012, 17:25
I guess I should be grateful for ring side seats, but this is very nerve racking to me. The other night, I listened to James Martinez interview with astrologer, Dadhici (http://www.achieveradio.com/archplayer.php?showname=Cash%20Flow%20with%20James%20Martinez&sn=66&ShowURL=http://audio.achieveradio.com/cash-flow/2012-02-14--1200---Cash_Flow.mp3), which was quite interesting. But even more interesting (and dovetails with this thread) is Dadhici's forecast for 2012 (http://www.astrology.com.au/blogs/?p=359) regarding war and planetary alignments.
conk
15th February 2012, 17:45
Far as I understand it, that is the case. That the NWO just will absolutely not be permitted to "wage war". And that if Israel even "thinks" they are going to do anything "naughty" they're going on "lock down." And, that if China or US even try to start anything, they will reap the full blast of "hell from above" without innocent lives being lost.Er, ah, has anyone looked around us? The world is descinding into hell. When does the intervention occur? When will war end? It does not appear that the train is slowing any either.
Calz
15th February 2012, 17:55
Far as I understand it, that is the case. That the NWO just will absolutely not be permitted to "wage war". And that if Israel even "thinks" they are going to do anything "naughty" they're going on "lock down." And, that if China or US even try to start anything, they will reap the full blast of "hell from above" without innocent lives being lost.Er, ah, has anyone looked around us? The world is descinding into hell. When does the intervention occur? When will war end? It does not appear that the train is slowing any either.
I can only offer personal "opinion" ... but would venture to speculate there is more going on "behind the scenes" than we are aware.
Allegedly we had "help" with some of the nuclear disasters (most obvious of late Japan). No I can offer no proof. No the disaster was not stopped from happening but the worst case scenario from the fallout was.
Anyway ... that leads to the "big question" along that line of thought in that *if* world war starts to erupt what (if any) would be the response from our "benevolent friends"??? That would be the "rubber meets the road" time and what I was alluding to in my earlier post about a *possible* forced disclosure (or not).
Clearly there is more than "3D swordplay" going on here ... the politicians are simply pawns in the bigger scheme.
IMHO
Ilie Pandia
15th February 2012, 18:22
My "conscious vote" goes into this not succeeding. In fact I'll put my vote into this being exposed fast and therefore dropped as an option :). And hopefully more military people will awaken and choose to disregard those unlawful orders, or better yet, leave the military and go home and grow some organic food.
toad
15th February 2012, 18:38
I dont get all these false flag predictions, we don't need a false attack to go hit Iran, I think the US and Isreal have made that pretty clear, a preemptive strike seems like the most obvious course of action, Iran will retaliate which will then motivate further courses of action. It seems fairly dead set that we will attack them, atleast as far as the rhetoric goes; I believe even if Iran stopped their programs and allowed anyone in to see we would still attack them.
Calz
15th February 2012, 18:43
@ Ilie - I sure hope you are right :nod:
@ toad - Reptile mindset is very predictable and the false flag is the "blueprint" that has been used for most conflicts for very many years now.
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BREAKING: West May Strike Iran By Summer: Russian Military Chief
Political crises and war – could spin rapidly out of control...
by Robert Bridge
If Makarov is correct in his estimations, the situation in the region – overwhelmed as it is with political crises and war – could spin rapidly out of control. Indeed, some are warning that an attack on Iran could trigger a dangerous game of dominoes across the Middle East, possibly even culminating in another world war.
Thus, Russia’s top military commander may be right: the overstretched US military and its budget-broke NATO allies may find themselves fighting yet another senseless war with unknown consequences very soon.
Russia’s top military boss says an attack against Iran, which the west suspects of developing nuclear weapons, could begin as early as summer.
Thus far, tensions between Tehran and the west have been confined to the battlefield of heated rhetoric. Russia’s highest ranking military officer, however, predicts it may be just a matter of time before the verbal grenades get real.
The Russian General Staff is closely watching the situation, and is not ruling out the possibility of a coordinated attack on the Islamic Republic, General Nikolai Makarov, head of the Russian General Staff, told reporters on Tuesday.
"Iran is a sore spot,” Makarov noted.“I think a decision will be made by the summer."
If Makarov is correct in his estimations, the situation in the region – overwhelmed as it is with political crises and war – could spin rapidly out of control. Indeed, some are warning that an attack on Iran could trigger a dangerous game of dominoes across the Middle East, possibly even culminating in another world war.
In the slide towards escalating violence, there have been a string of disturbing incidents, including alleged cyber attacks against Iran, as well as the downing of a sophisticated US drone, which Iran says it guided to the ground after electronically hacking into the vehicle.
Then there are the mysterious assassinations.
In January, Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan, 31, who supervised a department at the Natanz uranium enrichment facility, was killed by a car bomb in northern Tehran.
Exactly two years earlier, Masoud Ali Mohammadi, a senior physics professor at Tehran University, was killed when a bomb-rigged motorcycle exploded beside his car as he was about to leave for work.
Iran blamed Israeli intelligence for the killings.
In the latest ratcheting up of tensions, Israel on Monday blamed Iran for masterminding attacks against Israeli embassies in Tbilisi and New Delhi.
This game of tit-for-tat can readily explode into all-out conflict, which would be a worst-case scenario not just for the region, but for the entire world.
In November, US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta warned that military action against Iran could have “unintended consequences” in the region.
Panetta, like his Russian counterpart, believes that the decision to attack Iran may be imminent.
Washington Post columnist David Ignatius wrote earlier this month that Panetta "believes there is a strong likelihood that Israel will strike Iran in April, May or June before Iran enters what Israelis described as a 'zone of immunity' to commence building a nuclear bomb."
Russia is adamantly opposed to any military action against Iran, though Moscow has supported UN Security Council sanctions against Tehran in an effort to force the Islamic Republic to cooperate with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
Meanwhile, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is working overtime to get US President Barack Obama onboard the campaign against Iran. And it will not hurt his fierce lobbying efforts that Washington is preparing for presidential elections in November.
Thanks to the hawkish neoconservative philosophy that has hijacked traditional conservative thinking (which, to his credit, Ron Paul genuinely represents), President Obama can expect to be accused of “going weak on Iran” if he proposes anything short of war.
Thus, Russia’s top military commander may be right: the overstretched US military and its budget-broke NATO allies may find themselves fighting yet another senseless war with unknown consequences very soon.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29281
ThePythonicCow
15th February 2012, 19:36
From Alex Jones interview with Ed Asner -
At 2:20 in the video in the first post on this thread, Alex says "the Chinese President saying prepare for war with the US".
I suspect this goes back to what was reported in Pravda (and elsewhere no doubt) a couple months ago: Chinese Navy ready for war (9 Dec 2011) (http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/09-12-2011/119902-chinese_navy-0/)
China's neighbors are concerned about media reports citing the Chinese leader Hu Jintao, who allegedly ordered the PLA Navy's command to "prepare for a war." According to him, in the coming years the Navy should "complete its modernization, gather all the forces to prepare for a war and strengthen national security." This was said at a meeting of the top military and political leadership of the country on December 6.
For China famous for its wise and prudent policy this is, mildly put, rather strange. However, as pointed out by foreign experts, the statement of the leader of China was reprinted by many Chinese newspapers. However, there is a possibility that journalists made a mistake in the translation. British analysts say that the statement of the Chinese leader can be translated from Chinese both as "armed struggle" or "military conflict", but the essence does not change much.
Resurrecting that story now, and putting it in the context of "war between China and the US" seems to me to be misleading. So far at least, based on my (very very meager) understanding of China, they focus their military aggressiveness closer to home, on securing territorial security and on resolving territorial disputes in their favor.
I suspect we are being prepared for war, but not by national interests in either China or the US. Rather we are being prepared for war by those with global control ambitions.
GlassSteagallfan
15th February 2012, 23:15
According to LaRouche, the coming war with Iran is to provoke Russia and China into conflict. The idea is to damage Russia and China so they will not become the world power after the American-European monetary system fails. Depopulation is part of the plan too.
WhiteFeather
15th February 2012, 23:50
Every needs to hear this one (thanx Muzz).
Clearly not the only source but the drumbeats are growing louder by the day and here we are *ONCE AGAIN* with that sinking in quicksand feeling watching this all unfold and not being able to stop it. Making the information go viral has helped in the past ... who knows this time. This is a programmed reality for them. Many "white hat types" in the military to be sure ... but even there (and one mentioned in this vid) many admirals and generals have mysteriously retired making one wonder how many of those "good guys" are left in a position to really matter.
Stakes are *way* higher this time.
This is the "big show" the cabal has been building towards for many many years.
Caveat and perhaps a *possible* ray of hope out of all this nuggetry is remembering how often our "benevolent brethren" have shut down/taken offline nukes over the last few decades. One wonders if all out world war did, indeed, start to break out if that would literally force disclosure???
Some spiritual sources have suggested humanity will not be allowed to destroy the planet this time ... fwiw
:noidea::pray:
I agree 1000% Calz,,,,,The Custodians (Whom Are The Original Creators IMO) have invested a lot of time on this garden we call earth, and yes many weeds have grown here since its inception, im sure they will intervene as they have done so in the past. They do not want to see this harvest destroyed. And the weeds will be pulled out so the garden doesn't become ruined. Intervention is Imminent. And Yes, IMHO,,,,The Nukes will become Milk Duds. They have No more valid moves. IT IS CHECKMATE, End Game. They are finished.
etm567
16th February 2012, 00:24
Far as I understand it, that is the case. That the NWO just will absolutely not be permitted to "wage war". And that if Israel even "thinks" they are going to do anything "naughty" they're going on "lock down." And, that if China or US even try to start anything, they will reap the full blast of "hell from above" without innocent lives being lost.
Well, I'm certainly happy to hear you say that. That is what I had believed, but, you know, I had gotten that info from that nefarious "channeled information" that is not to be trusted! :amen:
Glad to hear it any way it comes. Thanks.
ETM
By the way, do you know what the Anunnaki look like? I was watching those Bases 10 videos and twice, TWO TIMES she started to say and her interrupted her. He may have been doing that to interfere with her programming or something, I certainly don't know, but he was definitely driving ME crazy.
DreamsInDigital
16th February 2012, 01:41
The way I understand it, Annunaki was/is a general term for ET/ED's, not a specific race which is a misnomer.
onawah
16th February 2012, 02:14
DiD, OnyxKnight said in another thread that he thought another 911-type event might be a good thing because it would wake a lot more people up.
And went on to say he thought a lot of his ET contacts might be getting fed up with humanity's apathy and stupidity, and might just leave us to stew in our own juices rather than continuing to assist in the massive clean up that needs to take place.
I wonder what you have to say about that, and any other forum members who have made claims to direct, ongoing contact with ETs.
I have been having email conversations with medium Suzy Ward, who claims she is bringing through messages from her deceased son Matthew from a higher dimensional plane.
Her latest message says that Earth is on the threshold of 4D and that in a year or so, any beings of negative intent will no longer be able to survive here.
See:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39869-Message-from-Matthew-February-1-2012
I would certainly like to believe that, but I take all such information with a wait and see attitude.
And I am having difficulty imagining what that would look like.
It seems like it would be very chaotic at first, at least, as it must also involve the breakdown of so many systems that are currently running things on the planet.
While I would much prefer that to the kind of chaos and misery another 911 type event would cause, which I find inconceivable in the way of any kind of solution, the latter scenario is almost equally hard to believe in, at least, not unreservedly...
Have you had any input from your contacts along these lines?
Thanks for your input.
DreamsInDigital
16th February 2012, 02:38
Onawah, my apologies for not replying to you sooner, it's been hectic on many fronts, but I will definitely send you PM regarding this and the other stuff you inquired about. But, just a general "out in the open" comment. It's down to the very individual teams, groups, factions etc which ones are or are not involved and their specific thoughts/opinions regarding the situation. I know the ones I'm directly in contact with are very heavily involved with the fight for liberating the planet and it's people. And, I'm aware of several other groups including their allies, though I was asked specifically to not name names/systems etc publicly in the interest of protecting them from any potential nefarious attacks from the opposition possible. That are also heavily involved in supporting the "good guys." How ever, they (the ET/EDs) have vehemently expressed many warnings to the PTW/NWO that they will not be permitted to start WW3 and can be expected to follow through on their "warnings".
I don't talk to OnyxKnight's ET/ED's that he talks to , so I can't comment directly regarding them and their thoughts/opinions regarding this current situation.
onawah
16th February 2012, 02:50
Thanks DiD.
It looks like "another 911" could be brewing in Japan if there is another big quake there, regardless of whether such a quake might be engineered or not, so much damage has already been done.
See:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2100901/Stricken-Fukushima-Daiichi-nuclear-plant-dire-risk-massive-new-earthquake-scientists-warn.html#ixzz1mVTtNzQO
Dutchsinse has a video on his youtube site now where he is showing high radioactive reading from snow falling in St. Louis, MO.
Suzy Ward says that as the planet ascends into 4D, radioactivity, GMOs, vaccines, etc, will no longer be able to affect those of us going along with her.
But that is another scenario I am wondering about, and wondering how many will die in the interim...
And how far into 4D we have to be before we become impervious?
Children are more susceptible to such things, and so I also wonder what the timeline looks like for them.
Some are coming in with DNA upgrades, but others, I suspect, will be dying like flies.
Of course, that's been happening for a long time on planet Earth, but it sure will be nice when it stops...
DreamsInDigital
16th February 2012, 02:55
Honestly at this point, I don't know..and I don't know of my contacts do either. They have made it very clear and issued warnings and have more than enough "fire power" and "muscle" and "technology" to follow through on the warnings that have been issued and not even break a sweat. There is so much "difference" of opinion even on whether the transition will be to 4D, 5D, or just a general collective raise of consciousness, etc. So I know there are several of us contactes that try to avoid commenting to far on "that" spiritual fluff. Specially when there are more important mitigating circumstances at hand that must be dealt with first. How ever there at least seems to be a general concentric opinion that it is going to get better and we will enter a time of peace and prosperity.
jackovesk
16th February 2012, 03:14
According to LaRouche, the coming war with Iran is to provoke Russia and China into conflict. The idea is to damage Russia and China so they will not become the world power after the American-European monetary system fails. Depopulation is part of the plan too.
Connecting-The-Dots - LaRouche is IMHO Spot-On when he says...
"the coming war with Iran is to provoke Russia and China into conflict"
Why you ask..? Because of this...
Henry Kissinger Quote:
"The United States is baiting China and Russia, and the final nail in the coffin will be Iran, which is, of course, the main target of Israel. We have allowed China to increase their military strength and Russia to recover from Sovietization, to give them a false sense of bravado, this will create an all together faster demise for them."
"Out of the ashes we shall build a new society, there will only be one superpower left, and that one will be the global government that wins. Don't forget, the United States, has the best weapons, we have stuff that no other nation has, and we will introduce those weapons to the world when the time is right."
I think Kissinger let the cat out of the bag...:yes4:
We know the Black Projects within the Military Industrial Complex have been hiding their (Advanced Weaponary), just waiting for the (Critical Moment) to bring it forth and (Crush) the opposition..! Making them so Fearful they know they stand absolutely (No Chance) against such Weaponary..!
Kissinger let the real (SECRET the TRUMP Card) out of the bag, hence the Story was (Erased) off the net..!
Strategies will be changed because of this...:yes4: My bet is if things really do heat up..? Mr Kissinger & his OWO friends might just find themselves in the Obituaries before they can say 'Global Government'..!
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40497-Henry-Kissinger-If-You-Can-t-Hear-the-Drums-of-War-You-Must-Be-Deaf-..-
onawah
16th February 2012, 03:24
This really should be given as the preamble, since it was in the original message, otherwise it could be misleading, and Avalonians deserve to know the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth:
Preamble:
Quote Whilst listening to Dr. Bill Deagle on the Jeff Rense Show he read this article out in full to the audience and stated - "Although this article is supposedly meant to be satirical, it is the 'Truth'..!"
Why you ask..? Because of this...
Henry Kissinger Quote:
"The United States is baiting China and Russia, and the final nail in the coffin will be Iran, which is, of course, the main target of Israel. We have allowed China to increase their military strength and Russia to recover from Sovietization, to give them a false sense of bravado, this will create an all together faster demise for them."
"Out of the ashes we shall build a new society, there will only be one superpower left, and that one will be the global government that wins. Don't forget, the United States, has the best weapons, we have stuff that no other nation has, and we will introduce those weapons to the world when the time is right."
I think Kissinger let the cat out of the bag...:yes4:
We know the Black Projects within the Military Industrial Complex have been hiding their (Advanced Weaponary), just waiting for the (Critical Moment) to bring it forth and (Crush) the opposition..! Making them so Fearful they know they stand absolutely (No Chance) against such Weaponary..!
Kissinger let the real (SECRET the TRUMP Card) out of the bag, hence the Story was (Erased) off the net..!
Strategies will be changed because of this...:yes4: My bet is if things really do heat up..? Mr Kissinger & his OWO friends might just find themselves in the Obituaries before they can say 'Global Government'..!
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40497-Henry-Kissinger-If-You-Can-t-Hear-the-Drums-of-War-You-Must-Be-Deaf-..-
jackovesk
16th February 2012, 03:36
This really should be given as the preamble, since it was in the original message, otherwise it could be misleading, and Avalonians deserve to know the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth:
Preamble:
Quote Whilst listening to Dr. Bill Deagle on the Jeff Rense Show he read this article out in full to the audience and stated - "Although this article is supposedly meant to be satirical, it is the 'Truth'..!"
Why you ask..? Because of this...
Henry Kissinger Quote:
"The United States is baiting China and Russia, and the final nail in the coffin will be Iran, which is, of course, the main target of Israel. We have allowed China to increase their military strength and Russia to recover from Sovietization, to give them a false sense of bravado, this will create an all together faster demise for them."
"Out of the ashes we shall build a new society, there will only be one superpower left, and that one will be the global government that wins. Don't forget, the United States, has the best weapons, we have stuff that no other nation has, and we will introduce those weapons to the world when the time is right."
I think Kissinger let the cat out of the bag...:yes4:
We know the Black Projects within the Military Industrial Complex have been hiding their (Advanced Weaponary), just waiting for the (Critical Moment) to bring it forth and (Crush) the opposition..! Making them so Fearful they know they stand absolutely (No Chance) against such Weaponary..!
Kissinger let the real (SECRET the TRUMP Card) out of the bag, hence the Story was (Erased) off the net..!
Strategies will be changed because of this...:yes4: My bet is if things really do heat up..? Mr Kissinger & his OWO friends might just find themselves in the Obituaries before they can say 'Global Government'..!
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40497-Henry-Kissinger-If-You-Can-t-Hear-the-Drums-of-War-You-Must-Be-Deaf-..-
You just Don't get it do you Onawah..?
Logic & Commonsense tells me this is the 'Truth'...
I can't tell you how many times when I (Hit the Bullseye) the numerology numbers stack up aswell...:yes4:
Time: 3.14 = 8 (POWER) & Post 21 = 3 (CONTROL)
You think what you like, but I won't be getting into a 'Debate' with those who have not done their homework..:)
onawah
16th February 2012, 03:41
Don't get what, Jackovesk?
I get that people don't want to be lied to, given half truths and have their minds manipulated.
That goes 100 times more so for Avalonians giving half truths to other Avalonians.
What you quoted was a satire.
Whether it approximated the truth or not was not my point.
My point was that we are asked on this forum to be truthful as much as possible.
There is enough manipulation going on in the world.
We need honesty here if we are going to provide an alternative to the massive lie campaign afoot.
I don't think that's really asking too much.
jackovesk
16th February 2012, 04:01
Don't get what, Jackovesk?
I get that people don't want to be lied to, given half truths and have their minds manipulated.
That goes 100 times more so for Avalonians giving half truths to other Avalonians.
What you quoted was a satire.
Whether it approximated the truth or not was not my point.
My point was that we are asked on this forum to be truthful as much as possible.
There is enough manipulation going on in the world.
We need honesty here if we are going to provide an alternative to the massive lie campaign afoot.
I don't think that's really asking too much.
My point was that we are asked on this forum to be truthful as much as possible.
That's exactly what I was doing - Giving you the 'Truth As I Know It'...
Have you Clicked on the Link of the original story and asked yourself Why? Within a Day or 2 it has been (Erased) from the Net..???
I regulary listen to the Jeff Rense Show & Alex Jones Show...
Dr.Deagle IMHO was stating the Truth when he said the 'Article' in question (WAS NOT) satirical & was the TRUTH...
Lyndon LaRouche was on the Alex Jones Show and I heard him state those word as GlassSteagallfan stated...
Then with Common Sense & Logic, I was Connecting-The-Dots for those interest in finding out the TRUTH...
Then you come along (with as little as 2 Clicks of Mouse & 5mins of Reading) saying its just (BS/Satirical) and fob-off what has taken me at least 5 hours of research to reach and informed conclusion &/or opinion...
I you wonder Why? I am not bothering to start as many 'Threads' as I used too...
With that kind of 'Discernment' I'm starting to think Project Avalon' Deserters & Critics are correct..!
sygh
16th February 2012, 04:56
Every needs to hear this one (thanx Muzz).
Clearly not the only source but the drumbeats are growing louder by the day and here we are *ONCE AGAIN* with that sinking in quicksand feeling watching this all unfold and not being able to stop it. Making the information go viral has helped in the past ... who knows this time. This is a programmed reality for them. Many "white hat types" in the military to be sure ... but even there (and one mentioned in this vid) many admirals and generals have mysteriously retired making one wonder how many of those "good guys" are left in a position to really matter.
Stakes are *way* higher this time.
This is the "big show" the cabal has been building towards for many many years.
Caveat and perhaps a *possible* ray of hope out of all this nuggetry is remembering how often our "benevolent brethren" have shut down/taken offline nukes over the last few decades. One wonders if all out world war did, indeed, start to break out if that would literally force disclosure???
Some spiritual sources have suggested humanity will not be allowed to destroy the planet this time ... fwiw
:noidea::pray:
Oh, we can stop it alright. I, for one, am not going to sit idlely by for this one. NO MORE WAR!!! Nope. I will scream it and say it, and spread the word, and tell others to spread the word...
IN fact, everyone get on facebook, the newsvine, get on you IPADS, and start posting NO MORE WAR all over the place and don't stop. Do it every day as often as possible. NO war with Iran, no Israeli war with Iran. No more war in Syria, etc, etc, etc...
We need to get this EVERYWHERE. Paint it on billboards, paint it on overpasses. Write it everywhere!
onawah
16th February 2012, 05:12
Yes, but you left out one little detail, which is that those words were from a satire.
Why did you feel it was necessary to leave that out?
Did you think we on Avalon are big fans of Henry Kissinger?
That we think he might not say actually think or say such things?
I don't for a minute doubt that we would, which makes it all the more puzzling to me that you
would leave out that one little, vital piece of information.
UPDATE EDIT: APOLOGIES, MEANT TO SAY "I don't for a minute doubt that HE would (meaning Henry Kissenger), which makes it all the more puzzling to me that you would leave out that one little, vital piece of information."
Don't get what, Jackovesk?
I get that people don't want to be lied to, given half truths and have their minds manipulated.
That goes 100 times more so for Avalonians giving half truths to other Avalonians.
What you quoted was a satire.
Whether it approximated the truth or not was not my point.
My point was that we are asked on this forum to be truthful as much as possible.
There is enough manipulation going on in the world.
We need honesty here if we are going to provide an alternative to the massive lie campaign afoot.
I don't think that's really asking too much.
My point was that we are asked on this forum to be truthful as much as possible.
That's exactly what I was doing - Giving you the 'Truth As I Know It'...
Have you Clicked on the Link of the original story and asked yourself Why? Within a Day or 2 it has been (Erased) from the Net..???
I regulary listen to the Jeff Rense Show & Alex Jones Show...
Dr.Deagle IMHO was stating the Truth when he said the 'Article' in question (WAS NOT) satirical & was the TRUTH...
Lyndon LaRouche was on the Alex Jones Show and I heard him state those word as GlassSteagallfan stated...
Then with Common Sense & Logic, I was Connecting-The-Dots for those interest in finding out the TRUTH...
Then you come along (with as little as 2 Clicks of Mouse & 5mins of Reading) saying its just (BS/Satirical) and fob-off what has taken me at least 5 hours of research to reach and informed conclusion &/or opinion...
I you wonder Why? I am not bothering to start as many 'Threads' as I used too...
With that kind of 'Discernment' I'm starting to think Project Avalon' Disserters & Critics are correct..!
jcocks
16th February 2012, 05:44
My gut feeling tells me we will get so close to war that we will be able to taste it... We will get so very close it will scare EVERYONE..
But, make no mistake, it will ***NOT*** be allowed to happen. There will be a "miracle", and war will not be allowed to occur. Instead, we will hurtle at breakneck speed towards a much more positive, almost unimaginable, future.... My gut tells me to clear your expectations and be ready for *ANYTHING*,and I do mean *ANYTHING*. This will be quite the ride.
Franny
16th February 2012, 06:04
I donʻt know if this is significant or not but Iʻm not far, as the jet flies, from several air bases and the last hour or so has been very busy overhead with military traffic. There is the usual commercial traffic, but the military is much busier than usual. There is also a snowstorm and high winds adding to the fun.
Once in a great while military fighters fly so low that I instinctively duck as Iʻm sitting at my desk. Not tonight, but itʻs uncommonly active.
Hoping your gut keeps you well informed jcocks :)
Calz
16th February 2012, 09:06
I donʻt know if this is significant or not but Iʻm not far, as the jet flies, from several air bases and the last hour or so has been very busy overhead with military traffic. There is the usual commercial traffic, but the military is much busier than usual. There is also a snowstorm and high winds adding to the fun.
Once in a great while military fighters fly so low that I instinctively duck as Iʻm sitting at my desk. Not tonight, but itʻs uncommonly active.
Hoping your gut keeps you well informed jcocks :)
The pieces are being moved into place.
Whether or not the cabal's grand illusion will transpire or not who knows ... but the more ordinance that is placed into position the harder to step back. Even if nukes are "not allowed" a whole lotta damage can be done.
Oft quoted advice ... "hope for the best but prepare for the worst" comes to mind.
Have not seen much to stop the dominos falling. Syria may as well already be at war. Libya ... well you know the audit trail.
Calz
16th February 2012, 22:22
Not to belabor the point or bring anyone's energy down ... here is a well written, sober(ing) and realistic look at the situation from a relatively reliable and balanced source.
Doesn't go way down the rabbit hole on the "Gog-Magog" history and I question whether or not complete capitulation to the West would actually cause a stand down (remember Sadam offered such in Iraq with no result).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_&_Magog
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IRAN ESCALATION: All the Elements for War Are Coming Together
by Tom Burghardt
Global Research, February 12, 2012
With all the bluster of late in Western media that President Obama is assiduously working to "restrain" Israel from launching a preemptive attack on Iran, recent developments should put paid the lies of this dog-and-pony show.
Last Sunday during an interview with NBC News, the president made it clear that "all options" regarding plans for a joint U.S.-Israeli attack "are on the table." Far from distancing his government from the strident rhetoric emanating from Tel Aviv, Obama added that the administration is working "in lockstep" with Israel to "prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon."
Never mind that unlike Israel, which is estimated to possess upwards of 200 nuclear weapons, as a signatory of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty Iran is perfectly within its rights under international law to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes.
Indeed in December 2003, the Islamic Republic signed an additional protocol authorizing IAEA inspectors to make intrusive, snap inspections of their nuclear facilities and have expressed a willingness to negotiate an end to the Western-manufactured "standoff."
In our Orwellian Empire however, "diplomacy" is a convenient cover--and political talking point--for war and regime change. "Again," Obama told NBC News, "our goal is to resolve this diplomatically. That would be preferable. We're not going to take options off the table, though."
The president followed-up his threats on Monday when he signed an executive order freezing "all Iranian government and financial institutions' assets that are under U.S. jurisdiction," Bloomberg News reported.
According to the White House, Obama took the additional step towards cratering Iran's economy and cited "'deceptive practices' of the Iranian central bank in hiding transactions of sanctioned parties and its failure to prevent money laundering, concluding that Iran activities pose an 'unacceptable risk' to the international financial system."
If only Obama's "neocon-lite" regime had taken similar measures to rein-in the fraudulent and patently "deceptive practices" of the big Western capitalist financial firms that continue to pose an "unacceptable risk" to the economic and social well-being of the global proletariat!
Nigel Kushner, the CEO of the London-based Whale Rock Legal told Bloomberg that "the practical impact is less important than the message it sends to Iran." The analyst went on to say that the new executive order is "a declaration of economic warfare, to the extent that it's not already been declared," Bloomberg averred.
Accordingly, the asset freeze blocks "all property and interests in property belonging to the Iranian government, its central bank, and all Iranian financial institutions, even those that haven't been designated for sanctions by the U.S. Treasury Department," and is one more sign that "hope and change" fraudsters in Washington have taken these steps as deliberate provocations.
This is spelled out quite clearly by neocon Mark Dubowitz, the executive director of the oxymoronic Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD), which has rightly been described as the successor organization of the infamous Project for the New American Century.
Last summer, an exposé of the organization by Eli Clifton at Think Progress revealed that FDD's über-rich donors include individuals who, like Obama, march "in lockstep" with Israel's Likud party.
According to Clifton's research, FDD sugar daddies include: U.S. Healthcare CEO Leonard Abramson, the head of the Abramson Family Foundation ($822,000); Edgar M. and Charles Bronfman, heirs to the Seagram liquor fortune (($1,050,000); Home Depot cofounder Bernard Marcus ($600,000); mortgage backed securities "pioneer," Lewis Rainieri ($350,000); "hedge fund mogul" Michael Steinhardt ($850,000) and Ameriquest owner and former Bush administration ambassador to the Netherlands, Roland Arnall ($1,802,000).
"Most of the major donors," Clifton wrote, are active philanthropists to 'pro-Israel' causes both in the U.S. and internationally," who "helped promote the 'Bush doctrine' which led to the invasion of Iraq" and are doing so today with the ginned-up crisis over Iran.
Dubowitz told Bloomberg that Obama's new executive order was "the logical next step in the 'administration's economic war on the Iranian regime'." He gloated that "freezing assets of Iran's central bank and its government institutions, including the National Iranian Oil Company, makes them 'subject to much tougher enforcement by the U.S. government and the global financial sector'."
In response, Foreign Ministry spokesperson Ramin Mehmanparast told Tehran Times Tuesday, that "the issue of sanctions pursued by Western countries and U.S. officials is not a new issue. The issue... is regarded as a hostile measure and indicates that officials of Western countries, particularly the Americans, have not yet come to know our great nation."
"If illogical pressure and inhumane methods are used to hinder the progress of the country and to prevent it from achieving its rights," Mehmanparast said "they (countries that impose sanctions) will definitely not receive a pleasant response from our nation."
Military Build-Up Accelerates
War is not pursued by economic means alone, however.
On the military front, Navy Times reported last week that the "essence" of a massive war game carried out along the U.S. east coast, "Bold Alligator 2012" was "planning, staging and getting them here--and not a few platoons, not a Marine Expeditionary Unit but an entire Marine Expeditionary Brigade that could number upwards of 14,500 Marines and sailors."
According to the right-wing Israeli publication Debkafile, the "Bold Alligator" drill "is the largest amphibian exercise seen in the West for a decade, staged to simulate a potential Iranian invasion of an allied Persian Gulf country and a marine landing on the Iranian coast."
As part of the exercise, three Marine Corps gunship carriers that practiced an amphibious landing and attacked a "hostile" mechanized enemy division which had "invaded its neighbor."
Practicing alongside their U.S. counterparts, "French, British, Italian, Dutch, Australian and New Zealand military elements are integrated in the drill."
Debkafile reported that "Bold Alligator" is "led by the USS Enterprise nuclear carrier with strike force alongside three amphibian helicopter carriers, the USS Wasp, the USS Boxer and the USS Kearsage."
"On their decks," the Israeli publication averred, "are 6,000 Marines, 25 fighter bombers and 65 strike and transport helicopters, mainly MV-22B Ospreys with their crews. Altogether 100 combat aircraft are involved."
Coinciding with naval exercises currently underway in the Persian Gulf, when the "Bold Alligator" war games end, "the participants are to be shipped out to Persian Gulf positions opposite Iran. Altogether three American aircraft carrier strike groups, the French Charles de Gaulle carrier and four or five US Marines amphibian vessels will be posted there," Debkafile's military sources report.
As war drums beat louder, researcher Rick Rozoff at Stop NATO revealed that during a January 30 meeting, President Obama "met with his Georgian counterpart Mikheil Saakashvili in the Oval Office at the White House for an unprecedented private meeting between the heads of state, a tête-à-tête initiated by Washington."
Rozoff reports that "Obama had summoned the ambitious and erratic Georgian leader to Washington to propose a quid pro quo: The use of Georgian territory for American attacks on Iran in exchange for the U.S. exercising its not inconsiderable influence in Georgia--with a population of only 4.7 million the third largest recipient of American foreign aid--to assist in securing Saakashvili's reelection in next year's presidential poll."
The move was denounced by former Georgian President Eduard Shevardnadze, "who was overthrown by Saakashvili's self-styled Rose Revolution in 2003," a U.S.-financed "civil society coup" that installed an American-educated puppet in power in Tbilisi. Shevardnadze warned, "I don't rule out that to retain the [presidential] chair Saakashvili may join a military campaign against Iran, which would become a catastrophe for our country."
"Georgian analysts and opposition party leaders seconded Shevardnadze's suspicions, specifying that the Saakashvili regime would provide air bases and hospitals, of which a veritable proliferation have appeared in recent months, for such a war effort."
"A Georgian opposition analyst estimated that 30 new 20-bed hospitals and medical clinics were opened last December and that new air and naval sites are being built and modernized, military air fields in Vaziani, Marneuli and Batumi most ominously," Rozoff wrote.
Similarly, The Jerusalem Post, citing a piece that appeared Saturday in The Times, reported that Azerbaijan, which shares a long border with Iran, "is teeming with Mossad agents working to collect intelligence on the happenings within the Islamic Republic."
"This is ground zero for our intelligence work," an anonymous Mossad intelligence operative told The Times. "Our presence here is quiet, but substantial. We have increased our presence in the past year, and it gets us very close to Iran. This is a wonderfully porous country."
One might say, a "wonderfully porous country" for staging terror attacks, as NBC News revealed last week.
According to Richard Engel and Robert Windrem, "deadly attacks on Iranian nuclear scientists are being carried out by an Iranian dissident group that is financed, trained and armed by Israel's secret service, U.S. officials tell NBC News, confirming charges leveled by Iran's leaders."
That group the Mojahedin-e Khalq (MEK), designated a Foreign Terrorist Organization by the U.S. State Department, enjoys considerable support amongst Washington's power elite as The Christian Science Monitor disclosed last summer.
Indeed, "a high-powered array of former top American officials," from Rudy Giuliani to Howard Dean, "have been paid tens of thousands of dollars to speak in support of the MEK."
While Obama administration officials have tried to distance the U.S. secret state from the Mossad's assassination program, as Richard Silverstein noted on the left-wing Tikun Olam web site: "One aspect of this report, however, is misleading. The U.S. officials who confirm Mossad involvement in these plots carefully note that the U.S. is not participating. That, unfortunately is not quite true. The Bush administration allocated $400-million for this black ops war against Iran. A good portion of this is suspected of funding Israel's efforts. So it is highly likely that we are the paymasters for this effort and our denials ring hollow."
But the Iranian terror cult's connections to the CIA don't stop there. In fact, "law enforcement officials have told NBC News that in 1994, the MEK made a pact with terrorist Ramzi Yousef a year after he masterminded the first attack on the World Trade Center in New York City," Engel and Windrem wrote.
"According to the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, Yousef built an 11-pound bomb that MEK agents placed inside one of Shia Islam's greatest shrines in Mashad, Iran, on June 20, 1994. At least 26 people, mostly women and children, were killed and 200 wounded in the attack."
Yousef, the nephew of reputed "9/11 mastermind" Khalid Sheik Mohammad, was the top bombmaker for Osama Bin Laden's Afghan-Arab database of disposable Western intelligence assets, also known as Al Qaeda, who had a long history of close collaboration with the CIA and Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence agency before "going off the reservation" in the early 1990s.
These connections, and links, to Western destabilization operations are hardly historical relics of Washington's anticommunist jihad against the former Soviet Union, as Peter Dale Scott pointed out in The Asia-Pacific Journal: Japan Focus last summer.
Scott noted that "Americans have used al-Qaeda as a resource to increase their influence, for example Azerbaijan in 1993. There a pro-Moscow president was ousted after large numbers of Arab and other foreign mujahedin veterans were secretly imported from Afghanistan, on an airline hastily organized by three former veterans of the CIA's airline Air America."
And today, with foreign fighters flooding into Syria, including Libyan jihadist elements armed and trained by the CIA and MI6, it should hardly come as a shock that Al Qaeda's "emir," Ayman al-Zawahri, in a reprise of Islamist-backed efforts in alliance with the CIA in Afghanistan during the 1980s "urged Muslims in Turkey, Iraq, Lebanon and Jordan to come to the aid of Syrian rebels confronting Assad's forces," Reuters reported Sunday.
Western operations against Syria are viewed as a prelude to an all-out attack on Iran as Michel Chossudovsky and other analysts describe in a new series published by Global Research.
Indeed, U.S. war planners have presented regional military commanders with a target list that include "beyond Iran's nuclear facilities, communications systems; air defense and missile sites; Revolutionary Guard Corps facilities; munitions storage facilities, including those for sea mines (remember the Strait of Hormuz); airfields and aircraft facilities; and ship and port facilities, including midget submarines, missile boats and minelayers," The Washington Post disclosed.
"Aircraft employed," the Post averred, "would include B-2 stealth and B-52 bombers, fighter-bombers and helicopters, along with ship-launched cruise missiles."
In other words, Washington is contemplating a massive air and sea bombardment followed by a land invasion, as the "Bold Alligator 2012" drill suggests, with the express purpose of forcing "regime change" in Tehran.
As analyst Peter Symonds pointed out in the World Socialist Web Site, "While the US and its allies insist that Iran must satisfy 'international concerns' about its nuclear programs, the demands for 'clarification' are endless."
"IAEA inspectors visited Iran on January 29-31 and are due to return for further discussions later this month," Symonds wrote. "No report has been released, but the US and international media nevertheless accused Tehran of 'obfuscation' and 'time wasting'."
Ominously, Haaretz reported that a new dossier "to be issued next month by the International Atomic Energy Agency on Iran's nuclear program is expected to be harsher than the last one, which the IAEA released in November."
According to Haaretz, "the agency's board of governors is scheduled to convene on March 5 in Vienna, the same day on which Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is due to give a speech in Washington at a meeting of the annual policy conference of the pro-Israel lobby AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee."
Netanyahu is also scheduled to meet with Obama where talks on the "international response" to the "threat from Tehran" will take center stage. Isn't that a coincidence!
"The reality," the World Socialist Web Site noted, "is that nothing short of complete capitulation to all Washington's demands--not only on the nuclear issue, but its relations with the Syrian government and groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas, as well as its alleged 'interference' in Iraq and Afghanistan--would end the US build-up to war."
"In short," Symonds observed, "Washington is pressing for a regime in Tehran that bows to American economic and strategic interests in the Middle East and Central Asia on every significant issue."
"For all the talk about 'diplomacy' and 'sanctions,' the World Socialist Web Site warned, "the US is recklessly setting course for a war with Iran that threatens to engulf the Middle East and spread internationally."
The clock is ticking...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29247
Rocky_Shorz
16th February 2012, 22:49
heavy not for bedtime reading...
Rocky_Shorz
16th February 2012, 23:04
now on the hopeful side, Iran is starting to understand they are in the bullseye...
The dueling assessments came the same day the European Union confirmed it received a letter from Iran’s top nuclear negotiator, Saeed Jalili, about resuming negotiations with the U.S., France, Britain, Germany, Russia and China. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has said the international community wants serious engagement over questions raised about Iran’s program, not talks for the sake of talking.
The latest rhetoric over Iran’s disputed nuclear program stokes tensions with the U.S. and its allies that already have spurred fears of a military confrontation and hit oil markets.
Oil Reacts
Oil rose to a one-month high after reports yesterday that Iran halted crude oil shipments to Europe months before an EU embargo takes effect July 1, and as U.S. inventories declined for the first time in four weeks. Futures climbed 1.1 percent as Iran’s Press TV said the Persian Gulf state halted crude exports to Italy, Spain, France, Greece, Portugal and the Netherlands.
The state-run Fars news agency said Iran summoned the ambassadors from those countries to the foreign ministry to protest sanctions and warn them, without cutting exports. Oil for March delivery rose $1.06 to $101.80 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange, the highest settlement since Jan. 10. Prices have increased 21 percent in the past year.
“This is the kind of news that gets traders juices flowing,” Michael Lynch, president of Strategic Energy & Economic Research in Winchester, Massachusetts, said in a phone interview. “The Iran situation has gone from lukewarm to a simmer.”
link (http://www.iranfocus.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=24614:us-calls-iran-nuclear-breakthrough-claim-hype-as-oil-rises-on-concerns&catid=4:iran-general&Itemid=26)
this is all about driving up oil prices...
jackovesk
17th February 2012, 19:19
otnay neoay foay ouyay asha nyay inday foay luecay hatsoeveray, loodybay isgracefulday..!
Calz
18th February 2012, 09:51
otnay neoay foay ouyay asha nyay inday foay luecay hatsoeveray, loodybay isgracefulday..!
OMG ... they have taken Jacko :haha:
We have lost yet another good one ... :cry:
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Ascension
19th February 2012, 17:57
otnay neoay foay ouyay asha nyay inday foay luecay hatsoeveray, loodybay isgracefulday..!
not one of you has any din? of clue whatsoever, bloody disgraceful. Yeah, I am so confused now I don't know where to turn. The more I read, the more confused I get. My problem is I don't know who is lying, who is telling the truth, who is a disinformation agent, who is out trying to extract money, who is a scam artist, who is a government shrill, who is simply a complete dweeb, who is regurgitating information, who is truly receiving information from external sources, who cares about the well being of the planet. Yeah, pretty much confused to the point of giving up unraveling this mess we call planet earth.
Just going to life my life as decently as possible, giving love and respect to others until whatever comes, comes.
Calz
19th February 2012, 19:05
otnay neoay foay ouyay asha nyay inday foay luecay hatsoeveray, loodybay isgracefulday..!
not one of you has any din? of clue whatsoever, bloody disgraceful. Yeah, I am so confused now I don't know where to turn. The more I read, the more confused I get. My problem is I don't know who is lying, who is telling the truth, who is a disinformation agent, who is out trying to extract money, who is a scam artist, who is a government shrill, who is simply a complete dweeb, who is regurgitating information, who is truly receiving information from external sources, who cares about the well being of the planet. Yeah, pretty much confused to the point of giving up unraveling this mess we call planet earth.
Just going to life my life as decently as possible, giving love and respect to others until whatever comes, comes.
Hmmm ... purpose of the forum is to bring people together to help learn the truth.
If you are confused why such harsh words for everyone who has contributed to this thread?
Hmmmm???
Well nothing is etched in stone but we can learn from history and look for patterns.
Okay?
Have a history lesson.
fRZSzdQuOqM
Ascension
19th February 2012, 19:08
Calz, my confusion was in no way directed at people posting in this forum. I was trying to decipher Jackovesk's pig latin and comment that I am confused by all the stories out there. How did you take that defensively?
Calz
19th February 2012, 19:12
Calz, my confusion was in no way directed at people posting in this forum. I was trying to decipher Jackovesk's pig latin and comment that I am confused by all the stories out there. How did you take that defensively?
Thanks for clarifying that.
Your words were "Not one of you" so that seemed to be pointed at all those participating in the thread.
Wasn't being "defensive" ... was trying to help.
That short video is really quite good.
:grouphug:
jackovesk
20th February 2012, 02:34
otnay neoay foay ouyay asha nyay inday foay luecay hatsoeveray, loodybay isgracefulday..!
not one of you has any din? of clue whatsoever, bloody disgraceful. Yeah, I am so confused now I don't know where to turn. The more I read, the more confused I get. My problem is I don't know who is lying, who is telling the truth, who is a disinformation agent, who is out trying to extract money, who is a scam artist, who is a government shrill, who is simply a complete dweeb, who is regurgitating information, who is truly receiving information from external sources, who cares about the well being of the planet. Yeah, pretty much confused to the point of giving up unraveling this mess we call planet earth.
Just going to life my life as decently as possible, giving love and respect to others until whatever comes, comes.
Calz, my confusion was in no way directed at people posting in this forum. I was trying to decipher Jackovesk's pig latin and comment that I am confused by all the stories out there. How did you take that defensively?
Calz, my confusion was in no way directed at people posting in this forum. I was trying to decipher Jackovesk's pig latin and comment that I am confused by all the stories out there. How did you take that defensively?
Thanks for clarifying that.
Your words were "Not one of you" so that seemed to be pointed at all those participating in the thread.
Wasn't being "defensive" ... was trying to help.
That short video is really quite good.
:grouphug:
Don't worry Ascension, Calz was'nt having a go at you...:nono:
He was more likely having a go at me & rightly so...:yes4:
Just trying to keep it real...:noidea:
Rgs,
Jack
Quantum Logic
20th February 2012, 03:03
jackovesk-
You are correct in stating they change plans when possible discovery is imminent. But consider this- they may not change the present, but the past. Think of the ramifications of that to all events from the point of change. Besides, there is a new 9/11 false flag that is already underway. Check this out-
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2011/november/malware_110911/malware_110911
They even used 9&11 date combo again!Then this-
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and then this-
http://pastebin.com/NKbnh8q8
What do you think?
QL
jackovesk
20th February 2012, 03:18
jackovesk-
You are correct in stating they change plans when possible discovery is imminent. But consider this- they may not change the present, but the past. Think of the ramifications of that to all events from the point of change. Besides, there is a new 9/11 false flag that is already underway. Check this out-
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2011/november/malware_110911/malware_110911
They even used 9/11 again!Then this-
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and then this-
http://pastebin.com/NKbnh8q8
What do you think?
QL
If I click on anyone of these links am I going to get some kind of Malware/Virus on my PC..?
I try to avoid clicking on Govt. sites due to tracking cookies...
Perhaps you should just Copy & Paste the text so I can read it, then I will reply...:)
Kindred
20th February 2012, 03:37
I Strongly feel that the World's People will be 'awakened' in such an overwhelming way that the 'powers' won't have much choice in anything they might attempt. Furthermore, this 'awakening' will be felt - Experienced - by Every Human, such that We Cannot Mistake it's Origin.
It will be the Mercy that will be shown to All. Those who recognize this Mercy for what it IS, will chose the Correct Path of Unity.
Those who forsake this Mercy, will be subject to the Judgement.
In Unity and Peace
Calz
20th February 2012, 04:03
otnay neoay foay ouyay asha nyay inday foay luecay hatsoeveray, loodybay isgracefulday..!
not one of you has any din? of clue whatsoever, bloody disgraceful. Yeah, I am so confused now I don't know where to turn. The more I read, the more confused I get. My problem is I don't know who is lying, who is telling the truth, who is a disinformation agent, who is out trying to extract money, who is a scam artist, who is a government shrill, who is simply a complete dweeb, who is regurgitating information, who is truly receiving information from external sources, who cares about the well being of the planet. Yeah, pretty much confused to the point of giving up unraveling this mess we call planet earth.
Just going to life my life as decently as possible, giving love and respect to others until whatever comes, comes.
Calz, my confusion was in no way directed at people posting in this forum. I was trying to decipher Jackovesk's pig latin and comment that I am confused by all the stories out there. How did you take that defensively?
Calz, my confusion was in no way directed at people posting in this forum. I was trying to decipher Jackovesk's pig latin and comment that I am confused by all the stories out there. How did you take that defensively?
Thanks for clarifying that.
Your words were "Not one of you" so that seemed to be pointed at all those participating in the thread.
Wasn't being "defensive" ... was trying to help.
That short video is really quite good.
:grouphug:
Don't worry Ascension, Calz was'nt having a go at you...:nono:
He was more likely having a go at me & rightly so...:yes4:
Just trying to keep it real...:noidea:
Rgs,
Jack
Clueless I am regarding Latin of any animal strain ...
Having a go at no one I was ...
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Latin Dictionary and Grammar Aid
otnay
otium : free time, leisure, ease, peace, repose.
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neoay
neo : to spin, interweave. (to spin thread and yarn).
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foay
fodio : to prick, sting, jab.
foede : fouly, in a filty manner
foedis-e : foul, fithly
foedus : foederis : compact, covenant, agreement / law
foeteo : to smell bad
foetidus : smelly, stinking
foetor : a bad smell, a stink
foliatus : leafy
folium : leaf
folliculus : small bag, small purse, little sack
follis: a leather bag, purse, bellows, puffed-out cheeks
fomentum : poultice / alleviation
fomes : fomitis : tinder
fomeus : smoky, smoke-filled
fons : fontis : fountain, spring / fresh water / source, origin
fonticulus : small spring, little fountain
for : fari : fatus : (deponent) say, speak, talk about
forabilis : penetrable
foramen : foraminis : hole, opening, aperture
foras : outside, without, out of doors / + dare = to publish
forca : pitfall, snare, trap
forceps : pincers, tongs
forda : a cow with calf
fore, forem : future infinitive of sum.
forensis, e : legal.
forensis : relating to the forum / relating to legal business
forfex : scissors, shears
foris : out of doors, outside, abroad / from abroad, from outside
foris : a door, opening, entrance
forix : fornicis : arch, vault / arcade / an arched sallyport
forma: forma, shape, beauty.
formalis : having a set or standard form, / formal
formamentum : conformation
formator : a former, fashioner, maker
formatura : forming, fashioning, shaping
formica : ant
formidilose : dreadfully, teribly
formidilosus : causing dread, fear, terror
formido : formidonis : dread, terror / dreadfulness / scarecrow
formido : to be terrified, frightened, afraid
formo : to shape, form, fashion.
formose : beautifully
formositas : beauty
formosus : beautiful, well-shaped
formula : physical beauty / formula / rule, principle
fornacalis : relating to an oven
fornacula : a small oven
fornax : fornacis : oven, furnace, kiln
fornicatus : arched, vaulted
foro : to bore, pierce, make a hole, penetrate
fors fortis : chance, luck, fortune.
fors-itis : chance, luck.
forsit forsan forsitan : perhaps, probably.
fortasse : perhaps.
forte : by chance, by luck, accidentally.
fortis : strong, brave, powerful, robust, steadfast, courageous
fortiter : strongly, bravely.
fortitudo : physical strength, courage, moral bravery.
fortuito : (used as adverb) accidentally, by chance
fortuitus : accidentally, by luck, casual
fortuna : fortune, luck, fate, chance.
fortunate : fortunately, happily
fortunatus : fortunate, lucky, happy.
fortunatus : fortunate, lucky / wealthy, rich
fortuno : to make happy, to bless, to prosper
foruli : book-case
forum : market place, town square.
forus : gangway of a ship
fossa : ditch, trench, channel, moat
fossio : fossionis : an excavation
fossor : a digger, ditcher, sapper / fool, boor, clown
fossura : digging, delving, sapping, ditching
fovea : a pit, trap for game, pitfall
foveo : fovi : fotum : to foster, support, encourage
foveo : fovi fotum : to cherish / to warm, keep warm, caress.
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asha
ascia : carpenter's axe, mason's trowel.
ascio : to take up, adopt as one's own.
ascisco : to receive, admit/ adopt / take up, approve.
asper : rough, harsh, severe.
asperitas : roughness, severity/ harshness, fierceness.
aspernatio : contempt
aspicio : to look at, behold, gaze at, see.
asporto : to carry off, take away.
assentator : flatterer, sycophant, yes-man.
asser : a stake, pole.
assus : dried, roasted, grilled.
assero : 3, claim, defend
assimilares : 5 adj, similar
assimulo : simulate, immatate, represent
assuesco : (-sueui, -suetum) to accustom, to accustom oneself
astrum : star, constellation.
astus : m, cunning
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a *a 1 fem sing abl
a *a 1 neut plur acc
a *a 1 neut plur nom
a *a 1 fem sing nom
n *a neut. nom. pl. 2
n *a fem. nom. sing. 1
n *a : neut. acc. pl. 2
n *a : fem. abl. sing. 1
n *a neut. acc. pl.
v *a 1 sing. pres. imperative act. : (you) GO!
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inday
indagatio : investigation.
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foay
fodio : to prick, sting, jab.
foede : fouly, in a filty manner
foedis-e : foul, fithly
foedus : foederis : compact, covenant, agreement / law
foeteo : to smell bad
foetidus : smelly, stinking
foetor : a bad smell, a stink
foliatus : leafy
folium : leaf
folliculus : small bag, small purse, little sack
follis: a leather bag, purse, bellows, puffed-out cheeks
fomentum : poultice / alleviation
fomes : fomitis : tinder
fomeus : smoky, smoke-filled
fons : fontis : fountain, spring / fresh water / source, origin
fonticulus : small spring, little fountain
for : fari : fatus : (deponent) say, speak, talk about
forabilis : penetrable
foramen : foraminis : hole, opening, aperture
foras : outside, without, out of doors / + dare = to publish
forca : pitfall, snare, trap
forceps : pincers, tongs
forda : a cow with calf
fore, forem : future infinitive of sum.
forensis, e : legal.
forensis : relating to the forum / relating to legal business
forfex : scissors, shears
foris : out of doors, outside, abroad / from abroad, from outside
foris : a door, opening, entrance
forix : fornicis : arch, vault / arcade / an arched sallyport
forma: forma, shape, beauty.
formalis : having a set or standard form, / formal
formamentum : conformation
formator : a former, fashioner, maker
formatura : forming, fashioning, shaping
formica : ant
formidilose : dreadfully, teribly
formidilosus : causing dread, fear, terror
formido : formidonis : dread, terror / dreadfulness / scarecrow
formido : to be terrified, frightened, afraid
formo : to shape, form, fashion.
formose : beautifully
formositas : beauty
formosus : beautiful, well-shaped
formula : physical beauty / formula / rule, principle
fornacalis : relating to an oven
fornacula : a small oven
fornax : fornacis : oven, furnace, kiln
fornicatus : arched, vaulted
foro : to bore, pierce, make a hole, penetrate
fors fortis : chance, luck, fortune.
fors-itis : chance, luck.
forsit forsan forsitan : perhaps, probably.
fortasse : perhaps.
forte : by chance, by luck, accidentally.
fortis : strong, brave, powerful, robust, steadfast, courageous
fortiter : strongly, bravely.
fortitudo : physical strength, courage, moral bravery.
fortuito : (used as adverb) accidentally, by chance
fortuitus : accidentally, by luck, casual
fortuna : fortune, luck, fate, chance.
fortunate : fortunately, happily
fortunatus : fortunate, lucky, happy.
fortunatus : fortunate, lucky / wealthy, rich
fortuno : to make happy, to bless, to prosper
foruli : book-case
forum : market place, town square.
forus : gangway of a ship
fossa : ditch, trench, channel, moat
fossio : fossionis : an excavation
fossor : a digger, ditcher, sapper / fool, boor, clown
fossura : digging, delving, sapping, ditching
fovea : a pit, trap for game, pitfall
foveo : fovi : fotum : to foster, support, encourage
foveo : fovi fotum : to cherish / to warm, keep warm, caress.
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luecay
lues : plague, pestilence, calamity.
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hatsoeveray
habeo habui habitum : to have, hold, possess / consider, regard.
habito : to have frequently / dwell, reside / take possession
habitus : disposed, in a certain condition.
hac : (fem. sing. abl.) He who lives BY THIS (the sword) . . .
hac : this side, this way, here.
hactenus : hitherto, up to this point, so far.
hae he : (fem. plur. nom) THESE (speeches) were very fine.
haec hec : (fem. sing. nom.) THIS (sword) is more expensive.
haereticum : n, heretical
hanc : (fem. sing. acc.) She wasted THIS (her youth).
harum : (fem. plur. gen.) The city wall had four OF THESE (gates).
has : (fem. plur. acc.) They gave THESE (their lives) for the Faith.
Hasnonium : Hasnon.
haud : no, not at all, by no means.
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loodybay
loci : (pl.) passages in literary works.
loco : to place, put, position.
locupleto : to enrich, make wealthy.
locus : place, location, situation, spot. [monastery]
loginquitas : distance, remoteness, isolation.
longe : far.
longe lateque : far and wide.
longus : long
loquax : loquacis : talkative, loquacious, garrulous.
loquor : locutus : to say, speak, tell, declare.
lorica : hauberk [a coat of chain mail], a knight's service.
loricatus : wearing armor, armored.
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isgracefulday
is ea id : this, that / he, she, it.
iste ista istud : that / sometimes pejorative.
Bugger ... me thinks I will need to use the force ...
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