Kerry's new Video on project Camelot

[Snowbird]

I just now finished watching Kerry Cassidy's presentation in South Africa which is currently on the Project Camelot home page.

At right around the 28-minutes mark, she begins to tell what she/they have learned from a BP whistleblower. This information travels WAY beyond the capping off that has purportedly taken place. What she is informing the S. African audience is mind-boggling.

It isn't fear that reigns, its confusion.

There are obviously many very talented and dedicated BP employees, some of whom have decades of experience in the oil industry. They understand a functioning cap when they see one.

Are we then, after reading about this capping effort, to dismiss what others are saying and making very damning claims that what is really happening is vastly more sinister than what meets the ear?

Please watch that video and hear it for yourself.

[ascendingstarseed]

I listened to Kerri's presentation, if her source is correct it certainly raises questions as to the credibility behind claims that capping the well will stop the flow of oil into the Gulf. My questions arose due to the fact that from the start of this crisis BP has lied about everything and all their attempts to stop the leak failed miserably, especially when they were performing the very same procedures that failed in shallow waters during the Gulf leak back in 1979. I just can't help but think that this is another ploy to buy more time by placating the public by appearing to exhaust all efforts to fix the problem, it wouldn't surprise me if this effort fails too. The blatantly sociopathic behavior from BP exec's warrants extreme caution when attempting to evaluate whatever it is that they say or do.

Another big question is what about other purported leaks from fissures? Last month Florida Senator Bill Nelson was filmed saying that fissures appear to be another problem they're dealing with, it seem as though very recently another major leak was discovered within five miles of the DWH well-from-hell.

One big problem here is the source of our news - mass media. The oil industry has enormous control over mass media through advertising dollars and in some cases ownership of broadcast and print media sources, so companies that have enough money can shape they news in whatever way they wish. All it takes to kill a story is for the CEO to pick up the phone and make threats to pull tens of thousands, even millions of advertising dollars if the story airs. Journalists know what they can and cannot say over the air for fear of losing their jobs like Dan Rather, when he got fired it was the shot that ran was heard throughout the entire industry and it said tell the truth - you lose your job.

So what are we supposed to believe?

[bluestflame]

for all we know the live footage we've been shown could be anywhere under the ocean under any oilrig with similar hardware . just for instance

¤=[Post Update]=¤

the rock fissure's ommission from latest media release just don't sit right

[wynderer]

good question, Ascending Starseed -- 'So what are we supposed to believe?' -- i start from the premise that the Georgia Guidestones & the DIA murals give a good overview of the NWO plans for Earth & her humans -- then i add 'anyone connected w/the military-industrial-ET complex lies as a matter of course' [all the way down to the level of the BP peons, strutting around on the beaches w/their guns & badges while breathing in Corexit etc that will kill them]

in this case, the Gulf oil attack, i figure BP & buddies have accomplished whatever it is they wanted to do, & now will feed the masses assurances that it's ok --maybe they will successfully cap it -- meanwhile that part of the seabed has been weakened enough to serve the NWO purposes for further plans

the NWO includes beings who can make long-term plans -- over centuries & longer in some instances -- for people who got overwhelmed w/the 'negativity' of what happened in the Gulf -- you might want to try to get off the planet soon, because you ain't seen nothing yet

i am not sitting here thinking, 'What can i write that will be really negative & will bum out the maximum number of people?' -- i can't help what i see & know -- it nearly drives me batty sometimes, this apparently ingrained human belief that if you ignore something, it will go away -- during these batty times, i have toyed w/the idea of walking thru town wearing a big sandwich board reading on both sides, WAKE UP, STUPID PEOPLE!

[Bill Ryan]

I just now finished watching Kerry Cassidy's presentation in South Africa which is currently on the Project Camelot home page.

At right around the 28-minutes mark, she begins to tell what she/they have learned from a BP whistleblower. This information travels WAY beyond the capping off that has purportedly taken place. What she is informing the S. African audience is mind-boggling.

It isn't fear that reigns, its confusion.

I stopped listening to it at the point where we got to the 'rivers of fire' heading to Yellowstone and setting off the volcanoes on the west coat and down into South America.

Not going to happen, folks, not on this timeline or any other.


BP, fueled by greed and self-interest, may indeed have over-ridden warnings of instability in the GOM. They took some crazy risks and are almost certainly criminally negligent.
The well pressures are well-documented at a relatively modest 11,900 psi.
There's a LOT of methane, but it will not ignite.
The problems are those of very serious toxicity (including from Corexit, the brand name of the dispersant that Kerry was trying to remember).
Seismic surveys indicate that the GOM seafloor is essentially sound. That's WHY they went ahead with the pressure test. Reports that the Thomas Jefferson survey vessel found an enormous gash in the sea floor several miles away have never been documented. I believe this is an invented story (and there have been many). The latest report from the Thomas Jefferson is here (http://www.noaa.gov/sciencemissions/PDFs/tj_deepwaterhorizon_responsemissionreport_june3_11_2010final.pdf)... take a look.
The incident MAY have been allowed or encouraged to happen, either via engineering or occult means. There are a lot of unanswered questions. I think the truth will come out. We don't know it all yet.
The engineers are really doing their best to stop the flow of oil. They will succeed.
I'm as sure as I can be that things changed (for the better) several weeks ago. Kerry's presentation was a little while back (she's been back in Los Angeles for three weeks) - at a time when alternative media hysteria was flowing at an even greater rate than the oil.
I don't blame Kerry for this presentation, but it might not have been smart to release it at this stage without more fact-checking, and in the light of the fact that so much (including the timeline, literally or metaphorically) has changed between then and now. Everyone in the alternative media has been (or should be!) learning from this. I've learned a huge amount personally and a considering writing about it. It's been an extremely valuable experience.

[Arpheus]

Thank you bill!

[tone3jaguar]

[QUOTE=Bill Ryan;35505]I stopped listening to it at the point where we got to the 'rivers of fire' heading to Yellowstone and setting off the volcanoes on the west coat and down into South America.

Not going to happen, folks, not on this timeline or any other.


Thanks for the heads up, now I know not to listen to it at all. Kerry, Kerry, Kerry, Is she just evangelizing for attention now or what?

[golden lady]

Thank you Bill, as always, for your reasoned response and for keeping a level head. Its so easy to get carried away and loose our heads with all the hyped confusion. Lets just hope BP dont loose theirs, well not just yet anyways!!
Love and peace to you and yours.

[HORIZONS]

I've learned a huge amount personally and a considering writing about it. It's been an extremely valuable experience.
[/LIST]

Bill, I think that would be a great idea. I myself am looking within me as to how I can personally learn and grow from all of this that has transpired since the spill occurred - as I try and do with all my experiences - and as such, I would really appreciate reading your perspectives and learning curve :) about this issue. This may be a big help as we enter into the next stages of this spill - the clean up, the toxic issues and the economic issues.
Best regards,
Rich

[onawah]

Thanks Bill. Keeping our wits about us will surely help in this situation and help us to be discerning, as to what is hype and what is truth.

[ascendingstarseed]

I appreciate the info and your level headed response Bill to Kerri's presentation, thanks!

[Rimbaud]

Friends,

From my point of view I am totally amazed that Kerry has posted her lecture in South Africa, within the Camelot Portal. I found myself cringing with embarrassment several times during her talk. The end result being that I am more confused than ever.

On one hand we have Bill..the guy that I would most want to discuss evidence with..talk about climbing..hiking..mountain living etc& etc. Then we have Kerry.

I'm absolutely convinced that She's a wonderful Lady, but I feel somehow, somethings not quite right with her!..

Consider and discuss if you want

[Scott]

I stopped listening to it at the point where we got to the 'rivers of fire' heading to Yellowstone and setting off the volcanoes on the west coat and down into South America.

Not going to happen, folks, not on this timeline or any other.


BP, fueled by greed and self-interest, may indeed have over-ridden warnings of instability in the GOM. They took some crazy risks and are almost certainly criminally negligent.
The well pressures are well-documented at a relatively modest 11,900 psi.
There's a LOT of methane, but it will not ignite.
The problems are those of very serious toxicity (including from Corexit, the brand name of the dispersant that Kerry was trying to remember).
Seismic surveys indicate that the GOM seafloor is essentially sound. That's WHY they went ahead with the pressure test. Reports that the Thomas Jefferson survey vessel found an enormous gash in the sea floor several miles away have never been documented. I believe this is an invented story (and there have been many). The latest report from the Thomas Jefferson is here (http://www.noaa.gov/sciencemissions/PDFs/tj_deepwaterhorizon_responsemissionreport_june3_11_2010final.pdf)... take a look.
The incident MAY have been allowed or encouraged to happen, either via engineering or occult means. There are a lot of unanswered questions. I think the truth will come out. We don't know it all yet.
The engineers are really doing their best to stop the flow of oil. They will succeed.
I'm as sure as I can be that things changed (for the better) several weeks ago. Kerry's presentation was a little while back (she's been back in Los Angeles for three weeks) - at a time when alternative media hysteria was flowing at an even greater rate than the oil.
I don't blame Kerry for this presentation, but it might not have been smart to release it at this stage without more fact-checking, and in the light of the fact that so much (including the timeline, literally or metaphorically) has changed between then and now. Everyone in the alternative media has been (or should be!) learning from this. I've learned a huge amount personally and a considering writing about it. It's been an extremely valuable experience.


Wow that's interesting because the "Rivers of Fire heading to Yellowstone" is exactly where I shut it off as well.

[Anchor]

Take what resonates, leave the rest.

What are you confused about?

[Rimbaud]

John maybe I shouldn't have used the word " confused"...."conflicted" would have been better. My own experiences have more resonance with me long long before Camelot...If there's any confusion, I guess it's the question of Kerrys outlandish comments in her latest presentation...i find alot of it to be eccentric and not based on scientific fact. I could list my complaints if you wish..I'd rather not, because I'd be here for a while. I'm just rather fed up with the scaremongering that is going on right now...The BP well is capped; and all seems to be ok in the World right now.

I like Kerry, but She actually needs a BP cap on her recent comments, as not only is she fundamentally incorrect on many assumptions, but she also seems to thrive on "National Enquirer" types of schlock horror stories...per examle..asking Dr Greer if the World was running out of oxygen ..this year!

As you suggest, I do indeed take what resonates with myself; my family and friends..all over the World. I see enough horror in the World without adding nonsense into the equation.

Best Regards,

Rimbaud

[Anchor]

John maybe I shouldn't have used the word " confused"...."conflicted" would have been better.

I think we got thread merged! I am glad you realised I was addressing your comment :)

Its all good.

I must admit have not listened to Kerry's stuff for a while now.

For example I tried the Ashayana Deane video, but couldn't finish it. My resonance test was failing more than it was passing the material. This is obviously a personal view and your mileage may vary, but when you get to the point when you feel like you are wasting your time, it is time to go and do something else.

John..

[Rimbaud]

Hi John,

I'm glad that you spotted the merged threads, as I was wondering what was going on after my last post to you. I must say I agree with you in many ways...for instance I was intrigued with the Tellinger "Adams Callender" material..but now I know he's doing a new book on how to change you life by "a few simple rules" I'm rather more sceptical. After reading this...it's obvious that many folk have either heard or read Kerrys South African speech, whereas I thought it was new.

I'm going to go out on a limb now and speak from the heart by saying that I thought that it was the most insane rambling that I've ever heard from a pseudo public person. I thought that she was inarticulate and just plain odd...I'm sorry to say this, as I rate Kerry very highly. I don't like to take sides; but whereas Bill Ryan always seems to take a grounded stance...Kerry goes off in directions that I can neither comprehend, or have any wish to follow. There is a chance that I'm not as "enlightened" as I should be...I think that I am, but I guess I'll have to wait and see!

Cheers John
Rimbaud

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

Just for the record - i enjoyed her concise presentation... She does serve a purpose and bridge the gap between those that know and those that don't.

I agree - no one should prophesy anymore - we don't need that, we do need "what could happen" scenarios though - and she does present a few of these...

[Rimbaud]

John..you're spot on there and I completely concur with your comment

Rimbaud

[Snowbird]

Friends,

From my point of view I am totally amazed that Kerry has posted her lecture in South Africa, within the Camelot Portal. I found myself cringing with embarrassment several times during her talk. The end result being that I am more confused than ever.

On one hand we have Bill..the guy that I would most want to discuss evidence with..talk about climbing..hiking..mountain living etc& etc. Then we have Kerry.

I'm absolutely convinced that She's a wonderful Lady, but I feel somehow, somethings not quite right with her!..

Consider and discuss if you want

I wonder though if Kerry is describing the 3 dimensional earth after the great shift(s) have taken place.

[jeannacav]

I enjoyed Kerry's talk and I liked hearing her perspective of Camelot from the last 4 years.
I seem to remember that this character rang her 3 times during the night before to get her attention to tell this scary story.

It is par for the course.
I was able to watch the whole thing through and discern what was designed to produce fear and what was normal.

So, we see it for what it is. (I am referring to the scary story.)
We do NOT stare at it.
We turn to our true dream for a free and sovereign humanity and a healthy planet.
We stare at THAT.


thank you,

jeanna

[kinsuemei2]

Well I feel that Kerry is doing what she believes, and one thing i'll say about Kerry right now, there is no quit in that woman, despite the uphill iceskate she is facing and the total nonsense you lot through at her because of her belief. This is why Avalon did not work, only on man understood the ideals and goals and that was King Arthur, in our case Bill, and whilst things can get rocky and tensions heat up as they always will in this area of research and exploration of life. He still leads by example, and most of you do not follow that lead very well.

I still see you lot like a pack of dogs attacking and snarling after a story you think might be bunk or coming up with exuses for behaviour by blaming it on not being enlightened enough to understand and the bottom line is many of you are just elitist snobs that think you have the market cornered on things due mearly to a book you have read or judging somebody elses material.... now this is not all of you but some, and its just rediculous.
So you think Kerrys easy to fool and has been taken in, how about her mandate of just doing the interview and she might not agree with whats presented, but the fact that she is out there DOING something, you all need to watch your mouths and give the woman her due.

Bill and Kerry busted their asses for you lot over the best part of four years and all they get is whining an grief for the most part and they used their own money and did not ask for anything in return, we have countless hours of videos interviews and good work, from both these people. And I respect them both for different things that they bring to the table, you say something is weird about kerry, well guess what walk into a room full of strangers because every time you point the finger there are three pointing back at YOU!, I get it you don't like her new videos or think she is being taken for a ride, or will say anything and you think its for ratings... unbelieveable!

The bottom line is one follows the path of spirituality, and the other follows the path of grounded science abeit science that is being altered and chnaged everyday, as new horizons unfold. But your daming them both without realising it, because until DARPA give us the blueprints for the human soul or even how the brain operates they way it does then the spritual question is still to be found.science fails us but life astonish's us, when the lights go out, science is won't save you from the frightened peope cold and hungry, only their spirt and nature will. one chases the earth , and one chases the clouds, you all tell me what you are chasing, because at LEAST they know.

[blue777]

Well I feel that Kerry is doing what she believes, and one thing i'll say about Kerry right now, there is no quit in that woman, despite the uphill iceskate she is facing and the total nonsense you lot through at her because of her belief. This is why Avalon did not work, only on man understood the ideals and goals and that was King Arthur, in our case Bill, and whilst things can get rocky and tensions heat up as they always will in this area of research and exploration of life. He still leads by example, and most of you do not follow that lead very well.

I still see you lot like a pack of dogs attacking and snarling after a story you think might be bunk or coming up with exuses for behaviour by blaming it on not being enlightened enough to understand and the bottom line is many of you are just elitist snobs that think you have the market cornered on things due mearly to a book you have read or judging somebody elses material.... now this is not all of you but some, and its just rediculous.
So you think Kerrys easy to fool and has been taken in, how about her mandate of just doing the interview and she might not agree with whats presented, but the fact that she is out there DOING something, you all need to watch your mouths and give the woman her due.

Bill and Kerry busted their asses for you lot over the best part of four years and all they get is whining an grief for the most part and they used their own money and did not ask for anything in return, we have countless hours of videos interviews and good work, from both these people. And I respect them both for different things that they bring to the table, you say something is weird about kerry, well guess what walk into a room full of strangers because every time you point the finger there are three pointing back at YOU!, I get it you don't like her new videos or think she is being taken for a ride, or will say anything and you think its for ratings... unbelieveable!

The bottom line is one follows the path of spirituality, and the other follows the path of grounded science abeit science that is being altered and chnaged everyday, as new horizons unfold. But your daming them both without realising it, because until DARPA give us the blueprints for the human soul or even how the brain operates they way it does then the spritual question is still to be found.science fails us but life astonish's us, when the lights go out, science is won't save you from the frightened peope cold and hungry, only their spirt and nature will. one chases the earth , and one chases the clouds, you all tell me what you are chasing, because at LEAST they know.

If we are going to be banned we might as well be banned together. Bill is the rational side of the pairing science etc ,( left hand brain).....he is not a King and Kerry the right hand of the brain,intuition, metaphysical (who is being compromised) therefore the union of opposites light and sound , left and right brain creates the King.........both science and spirituality will gel into one , REALITY , LOVE TRUTH AND REASON......LION ,BULL MAN AND EAGLE.....A HIGHER LEVEL OF CONSCIOSNESS.......therefore beware you do not fall into the EGO TRAP........

[kinsuemei2]

I love you Blue because you are REAL!!

[blue777]

I love you Blue because you are REAL!!

Thank God /Goddess for that at least someone is listening
lol
blue

[Rimbaud]

Snowbird,

I remain to be convinced that kerry wasn't just doing a group scare! I don't doubt that she believes what she says...but that talk was the end of the line for me as far as she goes..I refuse to cloud my mind with such negativity.

Rimbaud

[Rimbaud]

Blue 777, you're true to yourself as ever and I applaud you for your stability...I'm glad that you're my friend and sit "in the mix" so well... I aspire to being more like you every day especially in the fact that you do what we all want to do really...combine eloquence with real action.

Well done Blue..you're a credit to us all.

Rimbaud

[Rimbaud]

Well I feel that Kerry is doing what she believes, and one thing i'll say about Kerry right now, there is no quit in that woman, despite the uphill iceskate she is facing and the total nonsense you lot through at her because of her belief. This is why Avalon did not work, only on man understood the ideals and goals and that was King Arthur, in our case Bill, and whilst things can get rocky and tensions heat up as they always will in this area of research and exploration of life. He still leads by example, and most of you do not follow that lead very well.

I still see you lot like a pack of dogs attacking and snarling after a story you think might be bunk or coming up with exuses for behaviour by blaming it on not being enlightened enough to understand and the bottom line is many of you are just elitist snobs that think you have the market cornered on things due mearly to a book you have read or judging somebody elses material.... now this is not all of you but some, and its just rediculous.
So you think Kerrys easy to fool and has been taken in, how about her mandate of just doing the interview and she might not agree with whats presented, but the fact that she is out there DOING something, you all need to watch your mouths and give the woman her due.

Bill and Kerry busted their asses for you lot over the best part of four years and all they get is whining an grief for the most part and they used their own money and did not ask for anything in return, we have countless hours of videos interviews and good work, from both these people. And I respect them both for different things that they bring to the table, you say something is weird about kerry, well guess what walk into a room full of strangers because every time you point the finger there are three pointing back at YOU!, I get it you don't like her new videos or think she is being taken for a ride, or will say anything and you think its for ratings... unbelieveable!

The bottom line is one follows the path of spirituality, and the other follows the path of grounded science abeit science that is being altered and chnaged everyday, as new horizons unfold. But your daming them both without realising it, because until DARPA give us the blueprints for the human soul or even how the brain operates they way it does then the spritual question is still to be found.science fails us but life astonish's us, when the lights go out, science is won't save you from the frightened peope cold and hungry, only their spirt and nature will. one chases the earth , and one chases the clouds, you all tell me what you are chasing, because at LEAST they know.

kinsuemei12,

I'm assuming that you are equating me to a "snarling pack of dogs" simply because I levelled a concern against kerry recently...you didn't mention me by name (thankyou), but nevertheless I assume it was me that you were referring to. If I'm wrong then please correct me on these pages.

You tell me how both Bill and Kerry bust their asses over "us lot" which is precisely why for two years I contributed financially to their cause..I contributed substantially under different PayPal accounts so as to remain anonymous. I don't see that at any time I have "whined" as you put it...or caused them grief...unless you regard raising pertinent questions and queries as raising grief. Are you telling me that we should blindly accept what we're told in order to believe it...This is precisely what Bill and Kerry told us NOT to do .

You attest to your spirituality as you feel you know better than anyone else, thereby nullifying another's quest that may be in a different direction to your own...does that make yours superior? I still don't know if you were talking about me...but if you are, then you'll see that I didn't damn anyone at all...I may have put my support more into Bills camp than Kerrys..but if you read my earlier posts..you'll read that I was trying my best for a reconciliation between the two of them.

Unless you can show me financially that you have supported Camelot as I have over the years...then I suggest that the pack of dogs you describe, are those who lick up the scraps of the efforts of others and then shout about it without contributing anything. other than words.

Rimbaud

[kinsuemei2]

I was talking in general about the negative posts not the honest inquires into Kerry's nature, I don't stand for spirituality or science but I do think people should not be called gullible or unstable because their rhythm beats to the tune of a different drum, so I was not targeting you and well so what you helped, good man after all it was a donation right? Well then my hat is off, but how many others can make such a claim, do you see what I am getting at? you merely posed an honest question, whilst many others on this site and others have just acted badly.

And dude why you taking this personally? I am directing to this to the people who are exercising intolerance, and you want to attack my spirituality? brother I have taken more **** on this site than most others and I am still here, because I don't care what you or anybody else thinks of me, I can live with me thats all I need to know.

But what I am saying is and I think what I did say is the negativity directed towards Kerry is wrong because she supports her beliefs if you have a problem with that then its your problem, I don't think its wrong defending a woman that believes in something, because unless you defend it every day no change gets made. and I am adding to the fact that science has its uses and spirituality has its uses, and they are tow different paths that co exist on the same journey...

now I am not talking about you when I say pack of rabid dogs or whiny ass people, but we know they are here and they do talk an incredible amount of ****, and Rimbaud I would called you out if I had a problem with you, trust me I would. I am just trying to show that just because somebody has embraced something that is not of the norm they should not be attacked for that, and to my knowledge you have never attacked Kerry, you have voiced a concern so chill out! but others have ATTACKED and they are the people I am pissed off with.

Because don't swan about saying how awake people are when they have exchanged one box for a another, you know what I mean? they have opened their minds then placed themselves in another set of defined rules that say if this does not equal this it can't be true.. thats not progress, thats substitution, I understand what Bill means on his last interview we have to be careful with what we view and put out, but also we have to keep our minds open or why the hell are we wasting our time?

And Rimbaud I got no issues with you brother if you have an issue with me talk to me lets sort it out, I am nothing if not approachable.

[3(C)+me]

Rimbaud,
you like to pick fights don't you? Get people riled up over..this time it is Kerry.
You criticise and make statements about her but who are you to judge anyone?
How about looking at your self. Let's see how long that will last.

You are bashing kerry in order to get people to fight. It's a mind game and you are really good at this.

I love and appreciate both Kerry and Bill and I will not choose sides, it is immature and childish.
Great video as always by Kerry, and if peoeple watched the whole thing she said at there are many possible outcomes and we can change all of it and nothing is set in stone.
So much for her weird remarks. I think your remarks are much weirder and more suspect than hers. At least she is being transparent.
Your remarks are immature and childish.

[Rimbaud]

Rimbaud,
you like to pick fights don't you? Get people riled up over..this time it is Kerry.
You criticise and make statements about her but who are you to judge anyone?
How about looking at your self. Let's see how long that will last.

You are bashing kerry in order to get people to fight. It's a mind game and you are really good at this.

I love and appreciate both Kerry and Bill and I will not choose sides, it is immature and childish.
Great video as always by Kerry, and if peoeple watched the whole thing she said at there are many possible outcomes and we can change all of it and nothing is set in stone.
So much for her weird remarks. I think your remarks are much weirder and more suspect than hers. At least she is being transparent.
Your remarks are immature and childish.

cccme,

No you're completely wrong if I may say...I absolutely hate picking fights in any way shape of form with anyone ever! I have always been a peacemaker both at college and ever since. If you're accusing me of picking fights then I must disagree with you...Ask Tommy, (kerrys friend) how I offered a space in my Hotel in the Pyrennees for both Kerry and Bill to reconcile their differences..That offer still exists although idiotic partisan comments such as yours won't help in any way. Unfortunately you are not "in the link" sufficiently to know this...which means actually you're "out of the link" so please stop interfering where it's not wanted or needed. And to conclude..transparancy isn't your sole reserve...you're a very rude specimen..I don't know who you are, but one thing is for sure...manners were never taught to you.

Rimbaud

[cloud9]

Oh Dear, not again!
Why it's so difficult to understand that we have ideas and opinions but they don't have to be the same ideas and opinions of others?

[3(C)+me]

Please reread your remarks on this thread, very rude.
Why did you start this thread, how can bashing someone be postivie????

[3optic]

Please reread your remarks on this thread, very rude.
Why did you start this thread, how can bashing someone be postivie????

It seems you may have imbued Rimbaud's words with an intent that just doesn't read to me, cccme. You may note that he is very specifically criticizing Kerry's lecture and not her personally. I pay close attention to how these posts are framed. It is one thing to say, "your position is hysterical and crazy" quite another to say, "You are hysterical and crazy". It is well within the parameters of this forum, and common courtesy to critique a person's work so long as it doesn't become a personalized attack. I don't think the line was crossed here.

[Elixer]

Indeed. It always seems strange that when comments are taken personally, the discussion takes a turn for the worse. Not very interesting for those that are not as personally involved.
Might I suggest to use a PM system to work those things out?

I love Camelot and Avalon. I thought the Bill - Kerry combination was a little like the Lennon - McCartney one, in that the magic seemed to happen because of them working together.
If Kerry is Paul, then she too might have been replaced by a clone (just kidding ;-)

Kerry has put out quite a few videos since the split, but very few 'resonated' with me, I must say.

I thought it was a bit strange for her to just put out the Asha Deane videos without any comment. That was not a guerilla style interview, that was offering a platform to someone with information that might be very good, but that at the same time kicks a lot of others against the shins. It raises questions that have not been answered yet. It even gave rise to some conflict on the forums, if I read it right.
I think that video should have been mitigated by a personal disclaimer or comment, as they saw fit to do with the Patrick Geryl stuff.

Also, the video with Aaron McCollum was very strange. I'm not sure what to make of that guy. He too could merely be an attention seeker with an active imagination. I don't know.
In that video though, Kerry looked very sad, as if she was crying. My paranoid mind came up with a scenario where Aaron forced her to do the video or face some super-soldier consequences. I don't necessarily believe this scenario, but since there was no personal comment or input of any kind really, it remains possible. She probably had a case of the flue...
I haven't really seen anyone comment on this. Did I miss that?

So her whole approach doesn't sit too well with me. This has nothing to do with choosing sides, or personal attacks, but with resonance.
It seems she's more interested in just putting stuff out there, increasing her visibility, than to actually inform and educate the people.
Still she, like Bill still brings stuff to people's attention that you don't see much of elsewhere. So I'll keeping watching both their stuff.

This South Africa presentation didn't spark any particular chord with me either way, though. It seems she had a short time to speak and wanted to get as much out there as possible, which I think she did.
But it is in the same vein as the other stuff. She drops bombs and leaves the audience with the fallout. I wonder if that is even responsible.
I had the same feeling when I watched 'nutopiansg' (http://www.youtube.com/user/nutopiansg) on youtube. He seems more interested in unburdening himself than in helping people.

I hope Kerry reads these things and takes them as positive criticism. All though it is not nice to be critisized, it is one of the best and fastest ways to grow, develop and become better at it.

-Alex

[blue777]

Oh Dear, not again!
Why it's so difficult to understand that we have ideas and opinions but they don't have to be the same ideas and opinions of others?

That is my thoughts completely , and you better agree with it
lol
blue

[blue777]

I just now finished watching Kerry Cassidy's presentation in South Africa which is currently on the Project Camelot home page.

At right around the 28-minutes mark, she begins to tell what she/they have learned from a BP whistleblower. This information travels WAY beyond the capping off that has purportedly taken place. What she is informing the S. African audience is mind-boggling.

It isn't fear that reigns, its confusion.

There are obviously many very talented and dedicated BP employees, some of whom have decades of experience in the oil industry. They understand a functioning cap when they see one.

Are we then, after reading about this capping effort, to dismiss what others are saying and making very damning claims that what is really happening is vastly more sinister than what meets the ear?

Please watch that video and hear it for yourself.

The key to all this lies in "spirituality " not rational thought as all negative thought patterns work in the spiritual field...
QUOTE
It isn't fear that reigns, its confusion.

Obviously you are calling Kerry confused,spiritual insight is an area which has Universal keys AND THEY ARE HARD TO OBTAIN
lol..love of light
blue

[kinsuemei2]

Well Elixer I know Aaron very well and he is very commited to changing the world, people harp on about him being dolphin boy when he genuninly cares about them, and he did not force Kerry to do another interview he did not want to do another but he talked himself into it in the first so he could hardly back out as alot of his supporters did want the second interview, and thethruthcollective.com is awesome, the guest's are great the information is cool, I think its good the youngsters have a platform what you expect a 17 year old thats just woken up to watch Bob Dean for 3 hour? you can I can but many people can not, but it turns out an enitre school or assembly hall of full sail students watch listen and learn with Aaron so it's working and I am happy to be a part of that no matter what anybody says about me they are not in my shoes and they don't know what they are talking about.
Kerry is awesome and Bill is awesome, if you don't like them don't watch them they have both dropped bombs, so lets not get selective memory.

[Ahkenaten]

Wait a minute - I have to interject into this thread that isn't "Kinsuemi2" that guy why brought that fake story to Project Camelot about that woman/whistleblower who was supposedly killed or something that caused so much agida in this website and between Bill and Kerry months ago? If so, why is he permitted to continue to post under any name - he is disruptive and his motives may be as an agent provocateur, seeding this website with dissension under the guise of making mild protestations on behalf of whomever, always in the name of the highest motives mind you. As for his friendship with 'Dolphin Boy' - Kinsuemi2 (does this moniker actually mean "U CAN SUE ME TOO!"?) well perhaps both Kinsuemi2 and Dolphin Boy are closely acquainted with 'McUltra' (apparently a subversive Irish organization) - by the way even the SF Gate reported yesterday that there are natural deep blue holes in the seafloor in the Caribbean, one of which, coincidentally actually is called "Star Gate," check it out. Oh, Kinsuemi2, if you don't like this than U CAN SUE ME TOO.

[Bill Ryan]

Well Elixer I know Aaron very well and he is very commited to changing the world, people harp on about him being dolphin boy when he genuninly cares about them, and he did not force Kerry to do another interview he did not want to do another but he talked himself into it in the first so he could hardly back out as alot of his supporters did want the second interview, and thethruthcollective.com is awesome, the guest's are great the information is cool, I think its good the youngsters have a platform what you expect a 17 year old thats just woken up to watch Bob Dean for 3 hour? you can I can but many people can not, but it turns out an enitre school or assembly hall of full sail students watch listen and learn with Aaron so it's working and I am happy to be a part of that no matter what anybody says about me they are not in my shoes and they don't know what they are talking about.
Kerry is awesome and Bill is awesome, if you don't like them don't watch them they have both dropped bombs, so lets not get selective memory.

I agree with you about this part:


I think its good the youngsters have a platform what you expect a 17 year old thats just woken up to watch Bob Dean for 3 hour?

But the 17 year olds are like energetic sponges, wanting to soak up all they can from anyone who will tell them what they think is really happening.

BECAUSE OF THIS, we have a HUGE responsibility to get facts right and to educate them ACCURATELY and SHOW THEM HOW TO BE GOOD RESEARCHERS - ideally by example.

It's dead easy to take a bright, eager 17 year old and fill his or her mind with a different kind of junk that's just as useless and just as false and just as much of a time-waster as anything the Illuminati could dream up to get us chasing our tails and going absolutely nowhere.... while they proceed with their plans.

I posted these images below of the "Gulf of Aden Stargate" - actually, a very ordinary but quite large dust storm - on the Avalon blog a couple of days ago. Here they are again.

This is one VERY SMALL case study about how much better the alternative media can do - if they want to. And I'm with Ahkenaten (see the post immediately above) - to reiterate, we ALL have a responsibility to be MUCH smarter than we have been.

Why? We may not have the luxury of time to mess around with a bunch of nonsense information that bears no relation to reality.


they have both dropped bombs

Please say more.




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http://projectavalon.net/aden_dust_storm_stargate.jpg

[Ahkenaten]

As for the Star Gate in the Gulf of Aden, that infamous poseur and disinformation agent Sorcha Fall was ranting about that well over one and a half years ago....and "she" (actually "she" is a he) also was ranting recently about the idea of someone nuking that well in the Gulf leading into all kind of apocalyptic scenarios including the spreading volcanic firestorm leading to the blow-up of the Yellowstone Caldera and ultimately the explosion of the entire Ring of Fire! Sounds almost like a - HOLLYWOOD MOVIE SCRIPT!! He, we can do better than being led around by our noses by the usual fakes and imposters - reality is truly strange and TPTB are so threatened by the emerging truths that now they have assigned the job of messing with alternative news to shape the outcome of current events on top of their regular work in the mainstream babble box to special agents working in blogs, on websites in forums, in fact they are everywhere. It is all about shaping the informational envelope people - the clever invention of the Hegelian Dialectic is alive and well so be vigilant and critical......................as Bob Dylan put it years ago - "Don't follow leaders and watch the parking meters."

[Snowbird]

The key to all this lies in "spirituality " not rational thought as all negative thought patterns work in the spiritual field...
QUOTE
It isn't fear that reigns, its confusion.

Obviously you are calling Kerry confused,spiritual insight is an area which has Universal keys AND THEY ARE HARD TO OBTAIN
lol..love of light
blue

Well, no. I am not calling Kerry confused. I have never thought of Kerry as a confused person. I happen to think highly of Kerry. Therefore, the only person who I could possibly be calling confused, is me.;)

[kinsuemei2]

I was only referring to the Anglo Saxon mission and how it could have been viewed... I know you said you did not believe it would happen, but the Georgia guide stones are real and their mandate seems to be heading slowly in that direction, I see a lot of eyes after that video turned to Iran, and it appeared to be political viewers as much as the rest of us, it's like when you tell the people not to worry the first thing they do is start to worry.

But.. your right, a lot of things have been put here to make us chase our tails and I really am at a point where, I know what I have experienced, but off the back of that I actually don't really know what is going on, and you made a good point when you spoke of the 'I don't know' box that we all have, well I feel mine has got much bigger in the last few months.

[Elixer]

A lot Has been put out there to make us chase our tails. I think this includes the Georgia Guidestones.
Many people mention them and they're all certain that the guidestones spell out 'their' agenda for us. There seems to be little disagreement about this in the alternative media. I happen to disagree.
I think the guidestones are not meant for us.

They are meant for a new emerging human (or alien) population, after an apocalypse. To help them relearn language and to guide them as to how best to manage life on planet Earth. A manual to life on Earth, if you will. Viewed in that light, they are not evil at all and the message is actually a positive one, in my view.

See, the stones don't say, bring the population down to 500 mljn. They say, 'maintain' the population under 500 miljn.
I have never heard anyone mention this other perspective, yet to me it seems obvious that this is possible.
I might create a new thread for this, because there are still a lot of questions (like, what is that timecapsule they mention and how will it be opened and at what date exactly...?)

Straying further and further off topic.... ;-)
-Alex

[kinsuemei2]

Thats a great perspective of the stones Elixier!

[Rimbaud]

It seems you may have imbued Rimbaud's words with an intent that just doesn't read to me, cccme. You may note that he is very specifically criticizing Kerry's lecture and not her personally. I pay close attention to how these posts are framed. It is one thing to say, "your position is hysterical and crazy" quite another to say, "You are hysterical and crazy". It is well within the parameters of this forum, and common courtesy to critique a person's work so long as it doesn't become a personalized attack. I don't think the line was crossed here.

Thanks for your support my friend.. I think that I should bail out of this discussion for a while ( despite having started it)...it seems that there are some very emotive folk around right now; so I don't want to upset anyone else.

Rimbaud

[partsdale]

"That is my thoughts completely , and you better agree with it
lol
blue"

priceless...

[Rimbaud]

partsdale,

Are you being cynical about Blues comments in any way? I bloody well hope not!

Rimbaud

[perfectresonance]

I still see you lot like a pack of dogs attacking ... you all need to watch your mouths and give the woman her due.



Bill and Kerry are flawed human beings, as are we. But by their fruit we shall know them. Many people in the world, and on the Internet, produce volumes of material at no charge. The fact they do so freely and at no charge is something to be grateful for, but isn't the basis to simply accept the content as being useful or having innate quality.

That Kerry and Bill worked together for that length of time is simply amazing, now that we can see their natural styles so clearly. The questions of quality vs quantity is clearly on display.

Some people are happy to take in the voluminous output from Kerry, and look for the gems amongst the rubble. I find that both Bill and Kerry are poorer for going their own way: Bill could loosen up a bit, and Kerry needs to reign things in. But that's just my preference.

So we will discuss their fruit, and not the people. The most explicit example of something produced by Kerry recently that as nearly ZERO quality is the radio "interview" with John Lear. It was a waste of everyone's time.

(paraphrased)
KC: "Do you know anything about <topic>?"
JL: "No"

KC:"have you heard anything about <topic>?"
LJ: "No"

KC:"what do you think about <topic>?"
JL: "Don't know. COULD be true..."

and so on. People have been using the words cringe worthy. She could have been interviewing any of us and it would have been nothing better than the opinion piece John Lear produced. In the end even Kerry was moved to ask (I paraphrase): "Do you hear ANYTHING these days? Are you still in the loop?", and Lear answers "no, not really".

I call it an insult to my intelligence and my time.

So if you can take your filters off and see that Kerry's work, her fruit, is being questioned, and not her beliefs or her methods, then your criticism will find a much better target in the minds of a reasonable person.

(tongue in cheek) Now, if we can only get Bill to admit Deagle is nothing more than entertaining at best, we're just about there. :angel:

[Celine]

perfectresonance ...

i may not completly agree with you , but thank you for stating your opinion in a very balanced way.

it resonated perfectly with me...

hehe

love
celine

[John Parslow]

Hello again Bill

Once again you have shown a cool brain under that cool hat. I also watched Kerry's presentation in S.A. and was somewhat surprised by the alarmist feel of the whole thing. Having looked at the latest 'evidence' (not sure if that is the correct word) available, I totally concur with your thoughts but spare a thought for poor Kerry, she is only doing what she thinks is the right thing ...

Love and peace. JP

[blue777]

Hello again Bill

Once again you have shown a cool brain under that cool hat. I also watched Kerry's presentation in S.A. and was somewhat surprised by the alarmist feel of the whole thing. Having looked at the latest 'evidence' (not sure if that is the correct word) available, I totally concur with your thoughts but spare a thought for poor Kerry, she is only doing what she thinks is the right thing ...

Love and peace. JP

I think Kerry sees the negative timeline if we choose this road to travel on..................
blue

[partsdale]

partsdale,

Are you being cynical about Blues comments in any way? I bloody well hope not!

Rimbaud

Quite the opposite!
I was amused to the point that I felt I wanted to express it.
It seemed to be a very well placed little nugget of humor, and the proper use of those is a highly valuable skill/art.
I'm surprised and a little troubled that I was unclear.
Live and Learn I suppose.
Thanks and nice to meet you!

[blue777]

"That is my thoughts completely , and you better agree with it
lol
blue"

priceless...

Thankyou ...a compliment is worth a thousand hats!!!!hello rimbaud it was a joke about what cloud9 said...look back at page 4
love of light
blue/dominic

[Caren]

Hi Partsdale,
It's nice to meet you too. Don't be troubled..there is no problem here. Your intent was a positive one and not unclear. You actually gave Blue quite a nice compliment. :0)
Have a nice day.
caren
By the way, many of us here value humor...

[blue777]

Hi Partsdale,
It's nice to meet you too. Don't be troubled..there is no problem here. Your intent was a positive one and not unclear. You actually gave Blue quite a nice compliment. :0)
Have a nice day.
caren
By the way, many of us here value humor...

I will have to wait another 1,000 years to get another one
lol
blue/dominic

[Caren]

Hi Blue,
That is funny! I don't think it will take that long. You are one of a kind and this place wouldn't be the same
without YOU!....hehe...(another compliment!) See, you are loved.
always a fan, caren

[Rimbaud]

Bill I know that you're in the States right now, but like you I'm an ex Colonial who arrived at "Steamer Point" in Aden and I personally saw when I was nine years a water spout that in these days would have been put down to an ET event. In those days ..probably like you when you were a kid..we used to come back to the UK every three years on a P&O tub...this one was called the "Oronsay"(sic)...I can remember seeing extraordinary things mid ocean that folk could hardly believe these days. things that mariners see all the time. I personally have been through the Gulf of Aden three times in my life and the water spouts...desert storms and sand "devils" are very well known.

I don't want to debunk any deeply held views..however I simply don't believe that anything weird is happening there that can easily be explained away. I don't believe Aarons story, I think that he's taking advantage of kerrys increasing gullibility. This is my view alone and I stand by it simply to express my point of view.

Rimbaud

[Rimbaud]

Blue/ Dom,

Actually you don't need too many compliments on this site being one of the nicest, most open minded people here. For sure you're indigo and I'm proud to know you

Rimbaud

[Caren]

Hello dear Blue,
Why I believe you just got another very nice compliment!

How very kind of you Rimbaud. All the best to you both,
caren

[partsdale]

thats 2000 hats by my count!

[Caren]

Hello to you partsdale,
I believe its 3000 hats, eh Blue?!..