A Very Sad Time

[Mandala]

I wondered if any of you had experienced anything like this.

My husband just called to say the roommate of one of my daughter's close friends had come by to tell her that her friend hung himself on Valentine's Day last night. He wanted her to hear it from him. Her heart is broken, there was no note and as of yet none of the friends recognized any signs or indications that the young man was in trouble.

As I shared this story with another young man I spoke with tonight, he told me within the last few months he had 5 friends between 21 and 35 that have committed suicide.

A therapist came last Monday and spoke to my class and said his organization had gotten a call about a ten year old who hung himself a few weeks back.

I am so afraid we will hear of more people either by choice or by life plan to leave early due to the stress and challenges we are facing.

I hope the final outcome for all of us will be a positive outcome no matter what happens and what we go through. I wish the best for all reading this, may peace and love be with you all.

A very sad mandala

[Guest]

I am sorry to here of this Mandala.

Praying for them and their families is a good thing.

I offer a prayer to the person, their family and friends.

Love

Nora

[jessamy99]

Dear Mandala,

This is so sad, to hear of a young person who feel there is no way out.
I too send prayers to all those young people who feel so trapped by their situations.

With love, Jessamy

[jcocks]

Yes, I've known a few people who have died recently, one by suicide...

It's getting really difficult to be here I'm finding. I myself have found myself getting more down than I have felt in my life. I'm a strong person, so I can wait it out, but many people would not be able to overcome the feeling. I can't even say why I'm feeling so down at times these days....

It must just be the times we're living through, but I know for a fact that things are looking up, and soon...

[etheric underground]

I ,up until a little while ago use to look at suicide as the most selfish of all acts.
I have since learnt a lot about it and my conclusion is this...
We are here by choice..
We chose to come here against all the odds and bravely have gone where many, many beings
universally would not touch.
For this we are highly regarded and will go on to teach many the ways to unify in the face of adversity.
My belief after working with suicidal people, including my mum,niece and cousin is that
suicide is the last resort and an unwritten withdrawl from our contract.
by this, I do not condone suicide as it has the ripple effect on all all of humanity through grief
and misunderstanding...BUT.
If a person does not see that there soul contract is plausible and they are not learning there lessons,
I now understand a little better why they opt for this removal from this game reality.

[noprophet]

A friend of mine shot himself a few months back, another about two years before that.

I'm 25 now and I can't help but feel that this society stands in opposition to me and others in my age group. Most of us were raised by kids from the sixties with revolution in our music and truly want to see a better world, yet we stand in front of a monolith with a choice of death or assimilation.

My friends may have taken the better option.

[mosquito]

That's heartbreaking Mandala. Any other words are too trite.
My love to your daughter and her friends

Philip

[Sierra]

This is a very rough time to be young. They have no experience to help buffer. They haven't experienced yet, "This too shall pass." Add all the end time fear mongering into the mix. This poem says best what I think it feels like:

The Second Coming
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
W.B. Yeats - 1919

My love to the family.

[another bob]

If a person does not see that there soul contract is plausible and they are not learning there lessons,
I now understand a little better why they opt for this removal from this game reality.

Yes, well said, but my understanding is that they are usually popped right back into another vehicle to complete that contract. After all, there was a reason for the contract in the first place, and so it's a bit like, "Pay me now, or pay me later." The more we postpone, the higher the tab, since interest accumulates. Keep in mind, this is not a matter of some sort of judgment, as portrayed in relgious fantasies, but more like the impersonal functioning of the totality, aka Dependent Origination (understood in this case as: Mental states based in aversion and delusion will give rise to actions that lead to consequences of increased suffering and decreased happiness.)

Of course, there are a number of causes for suicide such as mental illness, but underlying many suicides appears to be a "failure to imaginatively identify with other beings", as noted by the sociologist Emile Durkheim. One experiences one’s self as isolated and unloved. Objectively neither of these things may be true, but subjectively the experience can be intense and seem inescapable. To overcome it one must strive to make that imaginative leap to identify with people. One must go out to people, search one’s own experience and use it to empathize with others.

I also understand that there will be many here on earth that will choose to leave in the near future, given the challenges which loom ahead.

In any case, Prayers for all desperate and unhappy beings!

:yo:

[EnergyGardener]

Mandala,

Thank you for sharing your grief. This is a helpful reminder for all of us to tell everyone we love that we do indeed.

EnergyGardener

[goinghome2012]

Blessings to the soon departed.

we are all eternal spirits, we move on from this 3D reality to other experiences, the only sad thing is that they are going to miss the Great shift, dimensional shift into 4th and 5th.

That is why we are here!!!!!!

peace and love

[eileenrose]

Hi Mandala, suicide is an interesting solution (to not liking life).
You mention: "I am so afraid we will hear of more people either by choice or by life plan to leave early due to the stress and challenges we are facing. "

First of all, I usually think they are the lucky ones because their suffering is over. It takes real courage to stand up every day (for me). But is brave to end your life as well (get over the fear of death ideas). I don't know how to call it myself. Up to each of us to decide (stay or leave). Not really (in my judgement) anyone else's decision.

[Mandala]

Thank you for your kind responses and words of wisdom, they are appreciated. If only we could have do-overs on our biggest mistakes or decisions we would like to un-do. I appreciate you guys taking the time to be here. It does matter. Thank you, Mandala

[another bob]

If only we could have do-overs on our biggest mistakes or decisions we would like to un-do.

Another way to look at is that we are here to make mistakes -- that's how we learn and grow. Moreover, we're given plenty of time to get it right, that's what our many lives are for. Sometimes, failing turns out to be the best thing that could happen to us, although we usually need the benefit of retrospection to realize it. In the end, everybody turns out fine. There is only God. Glory to That!

:yo:

[Lifebringer]

We must leave them a better world. One that a soul feels like living. Since I was a teenager, there have always been dark periods of loneliness in a childs life, where they want to leave this one. I don't know whether its remembering a better time in another life, and seeking to just get away from this ugliness throughout life. I do know, that if a child is allowed to have a normal progressive environment where the needs are met and the wants earned, they are more confident in theirselves, and the loneliness is filled with getting out there and making changes in the world.

This is our mission, to show the children today, that soon they will be leaders and the training on seeking truth in all life and governments in your name, only you are responsible, if you don't vote to at least get your intentions out there for return.

I have seen that some of the anger has penetrated some social sites and to get to a wayshower, they will go after their children on a social site, if too much info is given about family members.

WE have oru work cut out for us, and it's time to envision a better world outcome for them, and let it blossom to a future.

[Anchor]

I have heard it said, that to a Buddhist: Suicide is a temporary solution to a permanent problem.

Personally, I think Suicide is a very sad thing - both for what it implies about the situation that led up to it, and the impact it has on those in that persons sphere of knowing; and ultimately all of us.

My prayers also for those affected.

[spiritwind]

I wondered if any of you had experienced anything like this.

My husband just called to say the roommate of one of my daughter's close friends had come by to tell her that her friend hung himself on Valentine's Day last night. He wanted her to hear it from him. Her heart is broken, there was no note and as of yet none of the friends recognized any signs or indications that the young man was in trouble.

As I shared this story with another young man I spoke with tonight, he told me within the last few months he had 5 friends between 21 and 35 that have committed suicide.

A therapist came last Monday and spoke to my class and said his organization had gotten a call about a ten year old who hung himself a few weeks back.

I am so afraid we will hear of more people either by choice or by life plan to leave early due to the stress and challenges we are facing.

I hope the final outcome for all of us will be a positive outcome no matter what happens and what we go through. I wish the best for all reading this, may peace and love be with you all.

A very sad mandala

It does seem many in my corner of the world are opting out at this time as well. I have a teen age daughter who lost her father at 14 to cancer and has experienced more deaths in her 17 years here than I had experienced up into my 40's. I see into her world only from the outside but know, because she talks to me a lot, that the pressures are more intense than they have ever been. Another gifted friend of mine who has worked with at risk youth for many years started a kind of support group a while back for teens and young adults. I asked her what the most pressing issue was that seemed to be on their minds and her response kind of surprised me. More than any other time since I have been alive here the youth are questioning whether this “reality” we all seem to be experiencing is even real. I imagine that question alone could cause some deep seated fears to arise for some. They all seem to experience tremendous anxiety and have varying degrees of success in covering it up. I know that is not all youth, but just predominantly my experience as of late and I have lived in a variety of places over the last few years. It is not uncommon for young girls to even cut themselves to relieve their anxiety, which is something I had not commonly heard of until the last few years. Many receive medication of varying kinds for their anxiety and depression and I'm not sure that isn't adding to the overall problem in the long run. Just here in my home town this last week a 22 year old man went berserk and supposedly killed the 32 year old wife of the family he was staying with along with her 8 and 10 year old sons and then committed suicide himself. No one seems to know what happened. I work as a night audit at a local hotel and see young people all the time who come in intoxicated, on drugs, sometimes all beat up, maybe no place to go, trying desperately to get a hold of someone to help. It's heart breaking. Anyway, not to go on and on, but yes, I can relate to how bewildering it can feel at times when you experience loss, especially when it just seems to keep coming at you. I lost my grandfather and a good friend on the same day just last week. Paradoxically, although I miss and mourn those who have passed, I have learned to appreciate and value this life here more than ever. I guess it's all in your perspective. It's certainly better than hating every moment of it. And I would have to say that the most recent upswing in my daughter's over all attitude I would have to attribute to her realization that she really does have a choice and it really is okay to be happy in spite of how this world is. Thanks for sharing your experience.

[conk]

Attention Deficient Disorder drugs are often the reason. vile poisons, those.

[mind-scape]

Oh dear Mandala...
I'm very sorry to hear of this. Please know that you and yours are in my thoughts.

"I wondered if any of you had experienced anything like this..."

I do understand, in my own way, this kind of pain. It's a pattern that I've come across in this life many times, be it through losing others, or through talking to others who were struggling with suicidal thoughts. When I was 14, I nearly lost my mother due to an attempted suicide. I'd actually been the one to find her and the one who stayed with her while help was arriving. A few years later my younger cousin ended his life in a similar fashion. He was 13.

Many beautiful people seem to be chosing to leave our dear planet, especially in recent times.
At an energetic emotional level it makes sense. We are in the midst of a massive reality shift and it's incredibly difficult to find solid ground sometimes. Especially when you know that in essence, the ground doesn't actually exist. That it's you who creates it. The concept itself is simple, but it can be difficult to balance when the static is so loud. And my dear, we are thriving in a world of static.

Stay bright, friend.
Stay strong. We stand together.

[Ria]

It has reach epidemic proportions amongst our young adults, its a full time job for parents to keep them from going off the rails, after all we are living in an insane asylum, with various levels of poisoning, the world being run by psychopath, no prospects, a costly all most pointless education system, homelessness. I have questioned my self as to what am I doing here, it is hardly surprising, and a terrible indictment of our times. I encourage all I can, to hold on, dramatic changes for the the better are coming, as well as encourage to see what can be done.

I will light a candle for your friend.
'Go in peace my love,
your friends are waiting,
hold the earth in your heart,
we are waiting,
open your eyes,
we are one'.

[kcbc2010]

My soul aches when I hear these sorts of things. One of my teachers told us that when men/boys commit suicide that it's usually a rash decision, not thought out at all. I, honestly, can't imagine dealing with some of the issues that our young people are dealing with at such a young age. Our kids aren't little adults, but we often act like they are. So, I can kind of understand why the younger ones would do it.

However, as adults, we are supposed to have coping skills or know how to get help if we have problems that we don't know how to deal with. I wish I could remember the name of the book, but it was written by a psychologist in the UK who was frustrated that young adults he saw tended towards hopelessness and didn't seem to have any "soul" sense. That all they seemed to care about was what they could see and feel. A lot of people here on Avalon don't necessary believe in the Christian version of God, but we all seem to agree that there is a spiritual side to life that can't be denied.

I'm 36 and I've seen a lot of people choose to focus on the physical world because there's just so much distrust in what you can't physically see. Sad....praying for all of you.