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ktlight
16th February 2012, 11:03
"Because of the many atrocities committed by the Jewish-directed Allies, not only the firestorm incineration of German civilians in many German cities, but the incineration of hundreds' of thousands of Japanese civilians in the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Operation Keelhaul, the murder of one million anti-Communist Russians who were ordered handed over to the Soviet executioners by Eisenhower, and many other horrors, it was necessary to invent a German atrocity which would eclipse these horrors. .......The "extermination" of the Jews seemed made to order.

Professor Frederick Lindemann, the Chief Advisor to Winston Churchill and the inspiration and architect of the air crucifixion of Germany was in a reflective mood after the war.

"Towards the end of his life the Prof.' (Lindemann) made a remark on more than one occasion with such an air of seriousness that he seemed to regard it as his testament of wisdom, and I accordingly feel it incumbent upon me to record it here, although not in perfect sympathy with it. 'Do you know,' he asked, 'what the future historians will regard as the most important event of this age?"' Well, what is it? 'It will not be Hitler and the Second World War, it will not be the release of nuclear energy, it will not be the menace of Communism.' These negatives seemed very comprehensive. He put on an expression of extreme severity and turned down the corners of his lips. 'It will be the abdication of the White man.' Then he nodded his head up and down several times to drive home his proposition."

Holocaust over Dresden, known as the Florence of the North. Dresden was a hospital city for wounded soldiers. Not one military unit, not one anti-aircraft battery was deployed in the city. Together with the 600,000 refugees from Breslau, Dresden was filled with nearly 1.2 million people. Churchill had asked for "suggestions how to blaze 600,000 refugees". He wasn't interested how to target military installations 60 miles outside of Dresden. More than 700,000 phosphorus bombs were dropped on 1.2 million people. One bomb for every 2 people. The temperature in the centre of the city reached 1600o centigrade. More than 260,000 bodies and residues of bodies were counted. But those who perished in the centre of the city can't be traced. Appr. 500,000 children, women, the elderly, wounded soldiers and the animals of the zoo were murdered in one night.

"Even the "hundred thousand" figure for those reported missing must be an under-estimate. There were over half a million homeless refugees in the streets of Dresden, fleeing the Red Army siege of Breslau to the East. Whole refugee families must have been engulfed by the Dresden holocaust, with nobody surviving to report them as "missing"."--David Irving

During the war, more bombs by weight were dropped on the city of Berlin than were released on the whole of Great Britain during the entire war.

All German towns and cities above 50,000 population were from 50% to 80% destroyed. Hamburg was totally destroyed and 70,000 civilians died in the most appalling circumstances. Cologne with a population greater than Glasgow's was turned into a moonscape. As Hamburg burned the winds feeding the three-mile high flames reached twice hurricane speed to exceed 150 miles per hour. On the outskirts of the city trees three feet in diameter were sucked from the ground by the supernatural forces of these winds and hurled miles into the city-inferno, as were vehicles, men, women and children.

Between 1940 and 1945, sixty-one German cities with a total population of 25 million souls were destroyed or devastated in a bombing campaign that was unquestionably initiated by the British government.

There are no final figures on the number of civilians killed as a result of the mass-bombing, but 3,000,000 would be a very restrained figure (estimate).

Destruction on this scale had no other purpose than the indiscriminate mass murder of as many German people as possible quite regardless of their civilian status. It led to bombing retaliation that resulted in 60,000 British dead and 86,000 injured. All German air attacks against Britain were in retaliation against Britain's air war. It was Germany that was at bay.

"A nation which spreads over another a sheet of inevitably deadly gases or eradicates entire cities from the earth by the explosion of atomic bombs, does not have the right to judge anyone for war crimes; it has already committed the greatest atrocity, equal to no other atrocity; it has killed - amidst unspeakable torments - hundreds of thousands of innocent people."

"As for crimes against humanity, those governments which ordered the destruction of German cities, thereby destroying irreplaceable cultural values and making burning torches out of women and children, should also have stood before the bar of justice," - Hon Jaan Lattik, the Estonian statesman, diplomat and historian."

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NeverMind
16th February 2012, 11:07
Let's put it this way: A real holocaust.
Not the only one.
But very, very real, and unspeakably base.

ktlight
16th February 2012, 11:26
Let's put it this way: A real holocaust.
Not the only one.
But very, very real, and unspeakably base.

The title states 'The real holocaust', based on the meaning of the word 'holocaust'.

NeverMind
16th February 2012, 11:30
Let's put it this way: A real holocaust.
Not the only one.
But very, very real, and unspeakably base.

The title states 'The real holocaust', based on the meaning of the word 'holocaust'.

I know.
And I replied accordingly. :)

Maia Gabrial
16th February 2012, 15:52
Many holocausts.... All are depopulation schemes.
Include the African slaves in these holocausts, will you? Something like 6 million of them. (By jewish slavers no less)....

Taurean
16th February 2012, 16:42
I wonder how the US would have dealt with the bodies if Typhoid had broken out in the Concentration Camps for the Japanese held in America ?

Mike
16th February 2012, 16:57
the author, Kurt Vonnegut, experienced the fire bombing of Dresden first hand. he and his fellow pow's, along with various German military men, sat in a underground meat locker and listened to those bombs walking around as calcimine dust fell on their scalps.

he wrote a book about it, a fictionalized account, called 'Slaughterhouse 5'. it's relatively short and very readable, with a sort of tongue in cheek sci-fi bent that may appeal to many of the Avalonians here (alien abduction of the main character, Billy Pilgrim. and time traveling) it's simply written but wildly creative, with many subtle spiritual messages that don't come off as preachy or professorial. i highly recommend it.

syrwong
16th February 2012, 17:48
The brutality surpassed anything in human history, matched possibly only by the Nanking massacre. Yet both were underreported or covered up by the western media and historians. Even the victim nations downplayed the catastrophes for various reasons.

Unfortunately for humanity in the very near future, because the evildoers were the victors, and have stayed firmly in power, we are bound to witness more holocausts, and hundred times more tragic than these ones which barely got into our consciousness.

Judging from the lies they told the pilots, I can imagine the ones who will first press the button to nuke a big city will also be told a lie, such as their country have just been nuked by the enemy.

Open Minded Dude
14th February 2025, 20:27
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