Secret Of Whitney Houston's Death!

[ktlight]

"The tragic early death of singer Whitney Houston. The reality that prescription drugs are posing a greater danger to society than illegals drugs and many other public ills."

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[Maia Gabrial]

IMO ALL drugs are dangerous.... What we need to realize is that our bodies were designed to heal themselves. Stay away from all Drugs and GO NATURAL!
Thanks, ktlight. Just wanted to get this off my chest.... :becky:

[ktlight]

IMO ALL drugs are dangerous.... What we need to realize is that our bodies were designed to heal themselves. Stay away from all Drugs and GO NATURAL!
Thanks, ktlight. Just wanted to get this off my chest.... :becky:

Sometime bodies need a bit of assistance, and my first choice would be herbal plantlife.

[Rantaak]

IMO ALL drugs are dangerous.... What we need to realize is that our bodies were designed to heal themselves. Stay away from all Drugs and GO NATURAL!
Thanks, ktlight. Just wanted to get this off my chest.... :becky:

I don't care for pharmaceuticals, myself. Strikes me as odd that there are so many things that grow in nature that are called, "drugs," for some reason.

[nf857]

IMO ALL drugs are dangerous.... What we need to realize is that our bodies were designed to heal themselves. Stay away from all Drugs and GO NATURAL!
Thanks, ktlight. Just wanted to get this off my chest....



Tell that to somebody whos just been run over by a car, see if they can agree that drugs won't help, god peeps what do you think prescription drugs are, products derivived from natural produce i.e aspirin!!! Its the chemical they put in them that are harmful, not the actual good part of them that they do!!!

People take prescription drugs, because the can't afford the natural products, when i look out my window, i dont see a nice big field full of nautral herbs and produce i could just go and pick for myself, i see another concrete house accross the road, i would have to order natural produce now, & who knows what they put in that as well. Its all money making peeps, its all corrupted, un-less you have picked the thing yourself, it doesnt matter if its prescription or bought in a holland and barrett its all the same.

OMG sorry for the rant folks, go natural, its not realistic in reality, to give you a little idea of why this gets my goat, is that i suffer Extreme Fibromyalgia/Severe M.E., no amount of natural products can touch the pain and constant never ending deblitating fatigue, even the drugs dont touch the pain at times, which have natural sedative in them, along with natural painkiller, spliced with chemicals that get into your blood stream faster than the natural produce, if there is a natural produce that could cure all ailments,diseases, pains etc, its suppressed technology, that we will never get our hands on.

Natural products work for things like a migraine, stress, normal aches and pains, not disease derived from harmful chemicals and toxins that get into your blood-cells n take over all your cells in your body, & attack your brain cells causing lesions to your brain. Rant over feel free to comment, tough day today.



don't care for pharmaceuticals, myself. Strikes me as odd that there are so many things that grow in nature that are called, "drugs," for some reason.



Exactly, love the comment, if only we didnt have responsiblities, we could all smoke weed, eat some magic mushrooms and get high, life is just a dream, what you gonna do lol.

I think the reason why natural products worked better back in the day, is because there was no alternative, i.e positive thinking, praying, chanting, channeling, using the outside energies from higher dimensions was what did it, i think, you look at native americans, you seem them geting high and doing chants etc to cure somebody on deaths door, next day they have a miraculous recovery, now do you think the chanting or dancing did it? The herbs? What? The herbs helped, however it helped in the fact it tapped into the universal natural abilities we all have that & dont realise we have, i.e twenty people visit the astral plane, all asking for the same thing, always results are positive, do you think this is because of some crazy magic, or because we as humans are in control of our own destinys, we can bend time, as time does not exist, we can change our destinys whenever we want, we just have to realise we can, however this makes it all sound so easy, in reality its not, its just another money making market, the suppressed DNA cells have a lot to do with it, but key is the massive other percent of the brain we dont use, that people like genuise IQ'S do, indigo children, autistic children etc, all these so called myths and lengends are all really natural phenomena, thats what PTB dont want us to know about, why because if it got in the wrong hands that kind of power it could inihilate the earth xxx

[Maia Gabrial]

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
IMO ALL drugs are dangerous.... What we need to realize is that our bodies were designed to heal themselves. Stay away from all Drugs and GO NATURAL!
Thanks, ktlight. Just wanted to get this off my chest....

Sometime bodies need a bit of assistance, and my first choice would be herbal plantlife.

I agree, ktlight. The article I read last night backs you up.
Last night, I was on a section on Lit Corner called "Aghartha In the Hollow Earth" which was by Dianne Robbins. The description of Inner Earth sounded like a paradise because they live respecting all life, including what they ate. These are people who live 100's, even thousands of years in the same body with good health. The article tells much more.
After finishing this wonderful article, I wished so much that our world could be a paradise like theirs.

Well, anyone interested in what it says about the Hollow Earth can read here:

http://litcorner.net/component/article/41/3351?start=6

(This was just one of 7)....

[Maia Gabrial]

If I'm not mistaken, Fibromyalgia was created and designed by a Pharmaceutical company; so they can offer their medication for it. Forgive me, I don't remember where I read this, but give me time. I've known someone whose had it too; and felt a helpless sense of sympathy for them. I'm REALLY sorry for your pain, too, nf857. The fact of the matter is that your body's been caught up in the web of lies and greed of TPTW.

My belief is that if our bodies were not tampered with as they are, they'd be healthy all the time. Our bodies were meant to be healthy. This is part of the truth they've hidden from us. (Yeah, I'm one of those "conspiracy nuts" which btw I'm proud of!) I don't endorse Big Pharma or the FDA. Belief me, the antidotes exist for every health issue on the planet, but they won't share them. I'm for organic produce, even though I don't have access to it all the time. Money is the main reason which makes me think that organic foodgrowth is a money making scheme, too. However, that one's to our benefit.....

Only in the last 5 years or so have I tried to stay away from manmade drugs for relief:becky: I've turned to alternative ways and so far, I've been successful.
I have to proudly say that I've learned quite a few things from the people on this forum. Some of them are very knowledgeable about herbs and healing.... Love you guys!

[Dorjezigzag]

Pharmacy has really lost its way and needs to face the statistics.
I think one of the main reasons I have not needed to go to the doctor for so long is because I have not gone to the Doctor for so long.
I think most people in the wider society would consider the approach of many people on this forum to health as being flaky, but when you are honest with the FACTS who is really Flaky?

[Rantaak]

don't care for pharmaceuticals, myself. Strikes me as odd that there are so many things that grow in nature that are called, "drugs," for some reason.



Exactly, love the comment, if only we didnt have responsiblities, we could all smoke weed, eat some magic mushrooms and get high, life is just a dream, what you gonna do lol.

I think the reason why natural products worked better back in the day, is because there was no alternative, i.e positive thinking, praying, chanting, channeling, using the outside energies from higher dimensions was what did it, i think, you look at native americans, you seem them geting high and doing chants etc to cure somebody on deaths door, next day they have a miraculous recovery, now do you think the chanting or dancing did it? The herbs? What? The herbs helped, however it helped in the fact it tapped into the universal natural abilities we all have that & dont realise we have, i.e twenty people visit the astral plane, all asking for the same thing, always results are positive, do you think this is because of some crazy magic, or because we as humans are in control of our own destinys, we can bend time, as time does not exist, we can change our destinys whenever we want, we just have to realise we can, however this makes it all sound so easy, in reality its not, its just another money making market, the suppressed DNA cells have a lot to do with it, but key is the massive other percent of the brain we dont use, that people like genuise IQ'S do, indigo children, autistic children etc, all these so called myths and lengends are all really natural phenomena, thats what PTB dont want us to know about, why because if it got in the wrong hands that kind of power it could inihilate the earth xxx

I'm going to have to disagree here and say you're dead wrong. "Having responsibilities," in the context you've used it in, really means "being asleep." Our ultimate responsibility is to our consciousness, and if our consciousness is to benefit from having plant allies, then it will. All things, even food, have the potential for abuse. You can consume something to "Git f***ed uppp!" or you can consume it to utilize it as a tool for enhancing the brains facilitation of neurotransmitters. In a responsible case, this can actually result in becoming further responsible. Whether that means becoming more aware or perceptive, connecting with our higher selves, waking up the pineal gland, etc. I'm not saying shamanism is the only path by any means, each person has their own cup of tea (and some of them make it out of plants that grow in the amazon jungle), but if you're saying that cannabis and psilocybin are recreational time-wasters like television and alcohol, you might want to do some more "research" in those areas.

I think Joe Rogan said something like, "Pot doesn't make you lazy. Being lazy makes you lazy." This is absolutely true. Bland people, the ones who ultimately allow evil to exist by their inaction, are as such because they have no desire to be any other way.

The reason that the medicines you're trying to use aren't working is because the problem is not a chemical problem in your body. It is a psychological energetic problem. If you want to heal, you have to address the root of the issue. The reason I understand this is because my awareness is expanded. The only reason that people have the tendency to tell other people what they think is right for them is that buried deep within their awareness is an insecurity or fear about that idea. My personal choice is to stay out of the business of others and let them make their own personal choices.

Ultimately, this all relates back to the original confusion that started this thread. Everything has the potential for abuse. Anything that has power (potential energy) can be used for good, for evil, or for balance. If you've read The Lord of The Rings, The Hobbit, Silmarillion, or even just seen the movie, you should understand what I'm talking about. The ring is not inherently evil. The potential relationships it creates were evil. And yet, someone must bear the ring. Not everyone has to bear the ring. Only a select few.

:wizard: There's even a scene in the movie when Gandalf is doing research at the beginning. It cuts to him brewing a potion. Hmm... Wonder what he's going to do with that?

[Mark]

I like this secret better. I do hear y'all re the pharmaceutical industry though, as part and parcel of the control system and oft employed murder incorporated.

Superbowl, Whitney and the Grammys: A Three Part Ritual (http://warriorvisionaries.blogspot.com/2012/02/superbowl-whitney-and-grammys-three.html)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyOGOFYTYkI&feature=player_embedded
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyOGOFYTYkI&feature=player_embedded

Mark Dice, the guy who used to call all radio hosts asking suspect guests to talk about Bohemian Grove, gets the picture about the three part ritual being played out during the past week. Mark's skanky references aside (Nicki is just as much a victim of this as are the listeners. I am pretty convinced she is an MK), the boys have indeed been busy.

First the satanic Superbowl, with the invoking of the Goddess via handler and High Priestess Madonna, the initiation of Nicki Minaj and MIA and black mass sing along invocation of Lucifer. Then we have the ritual blood sacrifice of Whitney Huston, to energize the ritual of the Grammys (those that know how all this works, spotted this one immediately). Then the ceremony of the Grammys itself, where a very creepy tribute to Whitney was carried out by Jennifer Hudson under a pyramid of white light (all seeing eye symbolism) followed by Nicki Minaj's "coming out" performance for Roman Zolanski.

Lets take a look at the Grammys first. The Whiteny tribute. I say creepy because it is very odd that they would choose to dress Jennifer so that she looked like a bad copy of Whitney.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiIajQGHqnQ&feature=player_embedded
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiIajQGHqnQ&feature=player_embedded

There were many ways to pay tribute, but it was chosen to bring forward, through the pyramid of light, a younger made to be look alike singer, who incidentally had received an award a few years ago, which had been presented to her by Whitney.This tribute was a passing of the torch, from one diva to the one that will replace her. Many initiations going on this week it seems.

The tribute was followed by Nicki Minaj's performance, which was overtly satanic. First of all, Nicki has been talking for some time about her "possession" by the "boy" named Roman Zolanski. While it is clear that Nicki has split personalities and alters, she explains herself during an interview, that Roman was "conjured". Roman is a demonic/astral that was ritually conjured so that it could work through Nicki, not an alter ego.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc6VkKImq9w&feature=player_embedded
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc6VkKImq9w&feature=player_embedded

Also often they make reference to Roman Zolanski in the same sentence as Slim Shady. Nicki says in one her interviews for example..." Roman... Roman has gone to play with Slim Shady". Slim Shady is the demonic being that is in possession of Emminem. When one sells ones Soul, seems one acquires on of these demonics as part of the deal, so they can occupy the premises and run the show. They often write the songs and lyrics too. The dark side has its own version of channeling. Watch "The Music Industry Exposed" for more information on this topic, a video series which is essential for understanding much of what is going on under the label of entertainment.

So Roman is a demonic being and Nicki tells us that the Grammy performance was his coming out party. See link to her stating this in her post Grammy interview here. None of this is hidden: they are TELLING you, what they are doing. They have to, its part of their belief system that they have to do so, so they can be exonerated from the karma. Their thinking is: they told you, so the responsibility is yours if you dont take action. They are really quite smug also about how much they tells us and how much we still do not see. So here you are being told that this was a ritual, that Nicki is possessed and that this was the coming out party of the astral critter that lives inside her. Pay attention.

Also note that during Nicki's performance ritual, two of the darkest demonic movies of all time were called into play: The Exorcist and Rosemary's Baby. The Exorcist was a movie in which a real astral doorway was opened, allowing for a very large demonic to come through. Bad stuff happened on that set, and as an intuitive that can see things, this is a movie I had trouble watching. In fact, when I re-watched it, several years ago, I interacted with the demonic they were calling through ...it was not pretty and one of the darkest entities I have had the displeasure to encounter. Many horror movies are just excuses to open doorways and download dark beings into the earth plane. Something else we have been conditioned to think is fun.

The name Roman itself refers to Roman Polansky, and while Mark Dice nails it that this is the name of a famous pedo-satanist, most likely Roman Polansky was framed for not playing the game all the way. They are all pedo-satanists and most of them don't get caught. If he got caught, it is because there was a score to settle or something to silence. However the choice of Roman Zolanski for the name of Nicki Minaj's "boy" is still significant, as Roman P. was the director of Rosemary's Baby, a movie about tricking a mortal woman into birthing the son of Lucifer himself, played in the movie by nobody less but a hooded Anton Lavey, founder of the Church of Satan.

The movie Rosmary's Baby was also filmed in the Dakota Hotel, where John Lennon was subsequently killed. And was connected to another blood sacrifice, that of a pregnant Sharon Tate, wife of Roman Polanski, who was killed (sacrificed most likely for the advancement of Roman's career) by Susan Atkins and the Charles Manson family. With Charles Manson claiming he was instructed to carry out the killings by the lyrics of a Beatles song. The Beatles being a Tavistock creation, with many occult connections, and probably the first experiment in shaping a generation via mass media music programming. And Manson being most definitely a possessed one, carrying out hits on behalf of the boys and most likely MK programmed himself. It is very likely the Beatle's lyrics were his "trigger". Listen to last year's show with Robert Phoenix plus myself on FAR radio to go deeper on the topic of the 60s music, Roman P., Manson and more.

Now that we have connected these dots, you can begin to see that none of this is random. It is not by chance that Nicki's demon is called Roman and that his coming out party had exorcist and possession movie themes. We are being show the quality of the energy coming through, which is top of the food chain dark. The Superbowl Ritual, amongst other things, initiated Nicki; a blood sacrifice was then carried out with the demise of Whitney; and now the demonic that works through Nicki is out in the open to play. And as usual everybody cheers and claps. "What an original performance! She has a major in theater, wow!" ...Know that even this is mind control, as people have been conditioned for a while now to believe that all this dark crap that is being foisted upon us is art.

The dark ritual posing as art trend started with Gaga. And it continues on. Unfortunately people have become so dumbed down that they don't really know what real art is any more. And even said dumbing down is by design. See Education 2000 references in Tranceformation of America for the details of that plan. The dumbing down of America and Europe has been on the agenda at least since the early 80s.

A side note. Singing in her alter voices is Nicki Minaj's trademark. She signs as Barbie. She sings as her mother-alter Martha. As the faerie-godmother-alter. And even as a child-alter at times. Aside form this being a clear MK signature, we are being conditioned to believe that it is "fun" to have multiples. And normal. We are being conditioned to accept the splitting of the psyche as hip. Just like we are being conditioned that it is hip to be a hoe. That it is hip to make dark art. To care only about sex, fame and money. That it is hip to be part machine or part computer (transhumanist agenda). And that soldiers, war and riot police are sexy.

If you think this elite sponsored music is harmless, think again. If you can see through it, the spell is broken. But imagine being young and impressionable. This is NOT programming you want in your young one's heads. Especially when it also allows for the opening of astral/4D/5D doorways, that allow much invasion by nasty energies.

A few years ago, a young teen came to me who was suffering of bipolar and hearing voices. Her grandma brought her to me as she was having trouble staying on her meds and was wondering if I could help her. After talking to her for a bit, it comes out that just before she started experiencing symptoms for the first time, around 11 years old, she had carried out a ritual during which she had sold her soul to you know who. She said she got the idea from a TV Show and thought it may be a cool thing to do, that would give her powers. She was not sure if it worked, so she repeated the ritual several times. Very soon after that the symptoms started and she was diagnosed. Voices included. Coincidence. I think not.

Young people are impressionable. And they do silly things out of the innocence of not knowing. The boys know this. Which is part of why music is as it is right now. We need to learn to see what is put in front of us. And we then need to learn to say no to what is being planted in our mind and energy. We need to acknowledge the game being played, so we can counteract it. Lets ask Source/Primary Creator that all the dark energies that were invited without the free will consent of humanity, into the Earth plane this week be cleared and removed. And the effects of these rituals reversed to the degree that is for the highest good of all. That is a good place to start.

[nf857]

If I'm not mistaken, Fibromyalgia was created and designed by a Pharmaceutical company; so they can offer their medication for it. Forgive me, I don't remember where I read this, but give me time. I've known someone whose had it too; and felt a helpless sense of sympathy for them. I'm REALLY sorry for your pain, too, nf857. The fact of the matter is that your body's been caught up in the web of lies and greed of TPTW.

My belief is that if our bodies were not tampered with as they are, they'd be healthy all the time. Our bodies were meant to be healthy. This is part of the truth they've hidden from us. (Yeah, I'm one of those "conspiracy nuts" which btw I'm proud of!) I don't endorse Big Pharma or the FDA. Belief me, the antidotes exist for every health issue on the planet, but they won't share them. I'm for organic produce, even though I don't have access to it all the time. Money is the main reason which makes me think that organic foodgrowth is a money making scheme, too. However, that one's to our benefit.....

Only in the last 5 years or so have I tried to stay away from manmade drugs for relief I've turned to alternative ways and so far, I've been successful.
I have to proudly say that I've learned quite a few things from the people on this forum. Some of them are very knowledgeable about herbs and healing.... Love you guys!



Exactly, weve had the same realisation, i knew it M.E was a biological warfare agent way before i had my awakening, im not saying proper natural produce is not good for you, of course it is, im just saying thats an even bigger deception, its more costly than the drugs they hand out for free, they put you on benefits, so you cant afford to get the natural produce thats way overprized, its all one big corruption.

Somebody mentioned natural earth, underground cities, ive heard of them, hollow earth theory i can, quite beleive it, people underground are not effected by all this harmful radiation, chemicals toxins, & yes thats why herbs cured people the,as they didnt have traumatic deaths, or diseases, if something in the ground made you sick, there was always an immediate cure right next to it, garden of eden, adam and eve, picked the wrong apple, now we are paying the price. Next time im coming back as eve & i will pick the apple from the tree of life next time, i promise, jokes asides, i think its important to have some humour here, otherwise wed all go mad from all this madness.

I.E Who can afford the natural produce respectivley, than the very people who dont need them in the first place, the untouchables, i think they are all controlled by the duality theory in good/evil, whoever the true evil is, it took hold of them, demons, repitilians, whatever they are, they have won in the duality of the mind in these crazy arse psychos, who do all this for false power, false gods, satan himself, false promsies, total delusions . My body is so broken down, every bodily function is effected and my brain will eventually die out, there are more and more lesions on it everyear, how many nautral products would see me right-none as the lord or counsiousness didnt bank for un-natural disease so did not provide a cure for these mutations in his creation, we shall all have to tell him or one-consiousness its all wrong, all wrong all wrong, however if there was really something he could do to stop it he would, thats why the scientific theories go some way at explaning all this, its all allusion of the mind, our minds are our prisions, thats why the brainwashing, mind control works so well, i think we have to get outside of the box of this reality to be able to do anything positive, thats why the beings that appear to be positive and good, teach to raise the vibrations of your frequency levels, as its the perfect defence agaist the psyops and mind control thats happening, that way we can actually do something positive when our frequencies lift higher than PTB, or at least the puppets. Im just so thankful i woke up to all this before i died this time round, the hardest thing is faith, not belief in a god or religion or any indoctrination for that matter, the faith is believe in yourself, thats the biggest leap one has to take, its the only leap out of this evil dull frequency we all live on, stop listening to t.v or radio, even truth radio can have mind-control in it, totally switch off the minute you can, meditate on a clear channel, listen to your own voice, its the only one true voice, these channelled messages are ourselves in the future, we all have ourselves in the future, thats why we all could have a channeler if we wanted to hear and trust our own voices, its easier for me as ive been here lots of times before, my psychic abilities have got more and more prominent, i think i use more than the average 10 percent brain in intuitiveness IQ tests i get genuis level, these are your basic psychological tests, who knows maybe i was the brainchild for psychological testing in a prevoius life lol, joking again, we all have this ability in us, we just have to use the right brain, not the left, get training in using your right brain, i seem to always have in this life, definitly on the autistic sprectrum, my bf used to say, how can somebody who is so intelligent as you, can be so dumb the next, referring to me not having any common sense or logical reasoning sense naturally, no these are things that are acquired at school, hes the dummy, real sense is in the right brain, after all do we really need this left hand side of our brains, maybe they were added on later to control us in this seemingly false side of our brains lol, please forgive my ramblings, im heavily sedated at the moment, all of you should know me enough by now to appreciate the difference, its almost like a trance state, but its the only thing that helps my pain xxx

[nf857]

I'm going to have to disagree here and say you're dead wrong. "Having responsibilities," in the context you've used it in, really means "being asleep." Our ultimate responsibility is to our consciousness, and if our consciousness is to benefit from having plant allies, then it will. All things, even food, have the potential for abuse. You can consume something to "Git f***ed uppp!" or you can consume it to utilize it as a tool for enhancing the brains facilitation of neurotransmitters. In a responsible case, this can actually result in becoming further responsible. Whether that means becoming more aware or perceptive, connecting with our higher selves, waking up the pineal gland, etc. I'm not saying shamanism is the only path by any means, each person has their own cup of tea (and some of them make it out of plants that grow in the amazon jungle), but if you're saying that cannabis and psilocybin are recreational time-wasters like television and alcohol, you might want to do some more "research" in those areas.

I think Joe Rogan said something like, "Pot doesn't make you lazy. Being lazy makes you lazy." This is absolutely true. Bland people, the ones who ultimately allow evil to exist by their inaction, are as such because they have no desire to be any other way.


No youve made some crazy arsed assumptions in what i mean here, totally and utterly. If i smoked pot it would relax my muscles yes, but it would certainly not make me lazy, if you knew my life story, & the conditioning i had growing up, you would know i could never be lazy in a millon years, no matter how much i smoked of the stuff. I was just taking the subject out of context a bit, making it a little more light-hearted when i mentioned responsibilities, of course all responsibilties our only to ourselves, not what we are conditioned in beleiving. Im well aware the good drugs from the bad ones beleive me, i take the bad ones everyday of my life, i cant afford the good ones. Being not lazy is what burnt my systems out, as i never knew how to relax, however suggesting that there is some natural alternative to a multi-system disorder, with immune disorder, adrenal gland disorder, brain degenrative disorder, damage of the mitacondrial heart valve, caridovascular dysfunction, gut dysfunction, light/noise dysfunction, abnormal hormanal axis, memory impariments, speech impairments, i could go on, im all ears??? There is no natural alternative to the cure for this, because the retro-virus caused by this has caused all the cells to mutate and start attacked our brain cells, thats why all the signals to the bodily systems are wrong.


The reason that the medicines you're trying to use aren't working is because the problem is not a chemical problem in your body. It is a psychological energetic problem. If you want to heal, you have to address the root of the issue. The reason I understand this is because my awareness is expanded. The only reason that people have the tendency to tell other people what they think is right for them is that buried deep within their awareness is an insecurity or fear about that idea. My personal choice is to stay out of the business of others and let them make their own personal choices.


Really? Do you want to tell that to 250,000 people just in my country alone then??? When we know it has to do with a retro-virus which is a man-made chemical toxin, made by a plant to test on un-witting subjects just like gulf-war and aids, please i ask you to do your research. Psychological energetic problem, in other words its all in my head, OMG, another conditioned mind. Your awareness might be expanded, but your knowledge is not my friend, please dont be offended im just being honest, dont talk to me about an illness and disease and extreme disability that you obvously no nothing about. If its your personal choice to stay out of others business, please do that. Its ok to try and help people if you understand them & know exactly what you are dealing with, beleive me ive been awoke for many years now, & have been dealing with my own awareness for years. Ive tired everything known to man there is to try when it comes to healing, the only thing thats helped me is accepting this awful condition for what it is, not trying to hide or run away from it, or excuse it, or fight it, all these things were making me far worse, after eight years ive finally accepted it, then people on here keep telling me there is a natural alternaive, dont you think that FLORENCE NIGHTINGALE would have known about the natural alternative or the thousands of others who suffer this, if there was some alternative cure???


Ultimately, this all relates back to the original confusion that started this thread. Everything has the potential for abuse. Anything that has power (potential energy) can be used for good, for evil, or for balance. If you've read The Lord of The Rings, The Hobbit, Silmarillion, or even just seen the movie, you should understand what I'm talking about. The ring is not inherently evil. The potential relationships it creates were evil. And yet, someone must bear the ring. Not everyone has to bear the ring. Only a select few.

There's even a scene in the

Yes i know, if you read another of my post, you would see i already understand all this, thats what i was talking about further down. However Chosen Few, i dont beleive that, that flies in the face of SUPERIOR, or it GIVES YOU POWER. Its just yourself thats all it is, look in the mirror, duality, good/evil in us all, however why, if we are pure beings, why is there evil, because we are all corrupted, by PTB, thinking you could be a CHOSEN FEW IS CORRUPTION, hence why Lord of The Rings is Backwards at coming forwards, the chosen few are the PTB, in CONTROL OF THE RING, if you want to relate this to a fictional story, theres truth in a lot of fiction i see that, however when you are truely awake, theres truth in everthing when you take it down to its core level.

My body/brain is as damaged as somebody who had been in a bad car accident, just about keeping life on machines, however its drugs in my case, can you tell me if you got knocked down by a car tommorow, what awareness is going to bring for you or your natural alternatives??? Sorry i know that last statement is harsh, however im bringing awareness to people who are ignorant of what Severe M.E/C.F.I.D.S/Fibromyalgia/Immune Dysfunction/Multi-System Disorder/Neruological Disorder, Endocrime Disroder list goes on ACUTALLY IS x

[Peace of Mind]

Have you ever really watched a drug commercial? They tell you their problems prevents symptoms. But the symptom is your body’s way of telling you it’s working out the issues. Get rid of the symptoms and you weaken the immune system and delay the actual healing process. Drugs are administered only as a means to cope with discomforts of healing. They do not heal. Pain is in the mind…control the mind…control the pain. The mind makes the body.

How do you keep it in your conscious to sell/give someone in need something that will create other illnesses? I haven’t heard of a prescribed drug yet that didn’t have side effects.
When you watch these commercials they give you a picture of well being, smiling faces, happiness….. but at the end of the commercial some voice is swiftly giving you a bunch of side effects…the voice sounds like a speed reader going for a world record. This should be a clear warning sign.

Furthermore, they make these insane names for their products and ingredients hoping you will be impressed by their newly made up names/words and gain your trust. They know how the average mind reacts to this. It makes them look smart …but the really smart ones never put something into their body that will cause other issues…especially if they can’t even pronounce the ingredients.

Peace

[nf857]

Have you ever really watched a drug commercial? They tell you their problems prevents symptoms. But the symptom is your body’s way of telling you it’s working out the issues. Get rid of the symptoms and you weaken the immune system and delay the actual healing process. Drugs are administered only as a means to cope with discomforts of healing. They do not heal. Pain is in the mind…control the mind…control the pain. The mind makes the body.

How do you keep it in your conscious to sell/give someone in need something that will create other illnesses? I haven’t heard of a prescribed drug yet that didn’t have side effects.
When you watch these commercials they give you a picture of well being, smiling faces, happiness….. but at the end of the commercial some voice is swiftly giving you a bunch of side effects…the voice sounds like a speed reader going for a world record. This should be a clear warning sign.

Furthermore, they make these insane names for their products and ingredients hoping you will be impressed by their newly made up names/words and gain your trust. They know how the average mind reacts to this. It makes them look smart …but the really smart ones never put something into their body that will cause other issues…especially if they can’t even pronounce the ingredients.

Peace

No i stay well away from tv totally now, lol, but yes its awful and your right here to a point, im the subject though unfortunaly so pain being all in the mind, yes i agree with, however its not the mind thats the problem, its the brain, i have lesions all over my brain, that creats never-ending suffering, pain, abuse, to my body, my brain and body constantly attacking itself, my mind is fine, im still here, and acceptance of all this, has been my best medicine, however my pain levels are that bad, i have no choice but to take the only drugs that have worked for me after 8 years of suffering, im just prolonging my life really, its a degenrative disease, with a shorter life span. I know people have been able to cure themselves of cancer, however thats when the cancer is local, when the cancel is in every cell you dont stand a chance.

I dont trust anybody who thinks disease is all in the mind, & that there is some way of healing that, healers, what are they? People who can tap into the universal mind? Well i can heal myself to do this thanks, claivoyants? Im psychic myself, so no thanks, espeically when one contradicts another lol totally lol! Its all just corruption, ive accepted my lot in life, i enjoy my limited life and shorter life span im going to have in this life, im happy, content, lifes not a dream, but its certainly not a nightmare, you would think so after all of what i go through everyday, however only sick people would want to make money of the back of somebody who is suffering an extremley debilatating condition, claiming to be a healer, discernment is key to this, not that im accusing anybody on here off being that, however nobody upto now understands what my condition is, so until they do, there is no point in listening to suggestions, as they have to know what they are talking about first x

[nf857]

Pharmacy has really lost its way and needs to face the statistics.
I think one of the main reasons I have not needed to go to the doctor for so long is because I have not gone to the Doctor for so long.
I think most people in the wider society would consider the approach of many people on this forum to health as being flaky, but when you are honest with the FACTS who is really Flaky?



Lucky for you im happy you dont have to see a gp like i do, you obviously dont go to a doctor cos you dont need one. x

[Mark]

Hm, this is a good one too. So many secrets. And so many waking up to them.


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[Peace of Mind]

Have you ever really watched a drug commercial? They tell you their problems prevents symptoms. But the symptom is your body’s way of telling you it’s working out the issues. Get rid of the symptoms and you weaken the immune system and delay the actual healing process. Drugs are administered only as a means to cope with discomforts of healing. They do not heal. Pain is in the mind…control the mind…control the pain. The mind makes the body.

How do you keep it in your conscious to sell/give someone in need something that will create other illnesses? I haven’t heard of a prescribed drug yet that didn’t have side effects.
When you watch these commercials they give you a picture of well being, smiling faces, happiness….. but at the end of the commercial some voice is swiftly giving you a bunch of side effects…the voice sounds like a speed reader going for a world record. This should be a clear warning sign.

Furthermore, they make these insane names for their products and ingredients hoping you will be impressed by their newly made up names/words and gain your trust. They know how the average mind reacts to this. It makes them look smart …but the really smart ones never put something into their body that will cause other issues…especially if they can’t even pronounce the ingredients.

Peace

No i stay well away from tv totally now, lol, but yes its awful and your right here to a point, im the subject though unfortunaly so pain being all in the mind, yes i agree with, however its not the mind thats the problem, its the brain, i have lesions all over my brain, that creats never-ending suffering, pain, abuse, to my body, my brain and body constantly attacking itself, my mind is fine, im still here, and acceptance of all this, has been my best medicine, however my pain levels are that bad, i have no choice but to take the only drugs that have worked for me after 8 years of suffering, im just prolonging my life really, its a degenrative disease, with a shorter life span. I know people have been able to cure themselves of cancer, however thats when the cancer is local, when the cancel is in every cell you dont stand a chance.

I dont trust anybody who thinks disease is all in the mind, & that there is some way of healing that, healers, what are they? People who can tap into the universal mind? Well i can heal myself to do this thanks, claivoyants? Im psychic myself, so no thanks, espeically when one contradicts another lol totally lol! Its all just corruption, ive accepted my lot in life, i enjoy my limited life and shorter life span im going to have in this life, im happy, content, lifes not a dream, but its certainly not a nightmare, you would think so after all of what i go through everyday, however only sick people would want to make money of the back of somebody who is suffering an extremley debilatating condition, claiming to be a healer, discernment is key to this, not that im accusing anybody on here off being that, however nobody upto now understands what my condition is, so until they do, there is no point in listening to suggestions, as they have to know what they are talking about first x

Yes, trust is probably our species biggest issue. As you said, this is your problem and only you can deal with this… in the best way you know how.

I wish you well and may your thoughts focus on self healing. Keep the courage and let the empowerment that follows serve you.

Peace

[nf857]

Yes, trust is probably our species biggest issue. As you said, this is your problem and only you can deal with this… in the best way you know how.

I wish you well and may your thoughts focus on self healing. Keep the courage and let the empowerment that follows serve you.

Peace



Glad you understand Peace, yes trust in this day and age is a massive issue, especially if you go in with all the conspiracy theories, one thing it has taught me is to trust myself, i keep meditating everyday, i keeping living only in my now, not for tommorow, or next week, i deserve to live in my moment, not waiting around for a magical cure or wasting my time,energy,little money i have on placebos, or healings, you can't heal something that can't be healed, psychologically ive done lots of healing, however my physical arrangement, is not something that can be healed unfortunatly for me x

[Peace of Mind]

if it means anything to you or not...You will be in my prays,nf857...
still wishing you well

peace

[Camilo]

Let's let her RIP.

[Lifebringer]

I use natural oraganic materials to make fertilizer and my sun flowres grow to 23 ft tall, tomatoes abundant and cucumbers forarm size. It's made of banana peels, coffee grounds, egg shells,1/4 sand for airation in the soil and maple or oak leaves. Any vegetable scraps or fruit peels except citrus peels. Turn the mixture in a sealable packing plastic tub, every week or so, or over the winter as compost, and when the first signs of spring occurr, add two bags or one full tub to a 10 ft, by 10 sq ft area for a garden. Plant after first rain and warm days with night temps no lower than 45 degrees.

Watch er' grow. The soil smells so rich and healthy.
PS. Earth worms love it and their biowaste is also excellent fertilizer.

[conk]

nf857, you are so incredibly wrong on this subject I don't know where to start? Just incredibly ignorant.

Please research the discourse between A. Beauchamp and L. Pastuer. The Rockefeller family essentially "invented" the phamaceutical paradigm by siding with the criminal, thieving Pastuer (who admitted he was wrong on his deathbed). Thus, the era of petro-chemical drugs was born. The pharma companies are frauds and criminals who flood the media with ghost written information glorifying drugs and their supposed effectiveness. LIES, LIES, LIES! Pharma drugs are only marginally more effective than placebo, but have a huge number of side effects. Natural products, plants, herbs, etc., are very effective with ZERO side effects.

Let's take just one of the most popular drugs, Statins. The NNT (number of patients needed to treat for positive outcome) is 250. That means 250 people must be subjected to the outrageous side effects for 1 person to realize percieved benefit! Take the same 250 people and feed them red yeast extract and 250 of them will see their cholesterol numbers drop dramatically, WITH NO SIDE EFFECTS!

Pharma drugs are the height of insanity by any measure. They will kill you friend. Do not support this idea any longer.

Love and blessings, Conk