Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit [Archive] - Page 13

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12th June 2014, 07:49

The whole discussion (W. Van Duyn's Socratic method of conveying his thoughts via directed questions, posts and "liked" answers)
https://www.facebook.com/william.vanduyn.5?fref=ts

William Cornelis Van Duyn: What does "Illuminati" (plural of Latin illuminatus) mean to you?

Nathan Llewpas: A cool secret club only special secret people get to join. I heard they don't have good dental plans though. Do you think they'll accept my resume if I asked to join?

David Willis: Cute question

Bigotes De La Mancha: Enlightened one, the rough translation. To me it means light worshippers. Light representing the intellect or the Grand Architect aka the Liber Pater, Dionysus, the liberator. After all man was held in the garden of Eden by a controlling and vindictive God and they were set free. Given the freedom of choice, life on their own and liberty.

Not exactly my own personal beliefs

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Marcos Dutra: Most people believe it is a group of families who follow Lucifer in exchange for generational occult power and wealth. Their objective is to enslave people in the banking and political system, promote wars and cultural change in order to spread satanic values, destroy family values and traditional religion and establish a new world order so their antiChrist can one day rule over the globe. In this, they are fueled by occult rituals and human sacrifices, and have the help of the fallen angel hierarchy. They have received the promised to become gods and reign with Lucifer in his coming kingdom.
This is a widespread perception that will be hard to change. It will require more than a good PR campaign.

Daphne Creek Dyer: I have never knowingly met an Illuminatus. We can all regurgitate everything we have read and watched. I believe that Mr. Frtiz Springmeier is the most reliable and trustworthy source on the Illuminati. The meaning, I fell, will be different for many due to non-transparency. If you are an Illuminatus, please, enlighten us.

Etienne Davignon: Illuminati comes from lluminationism. It is a doctrine according to which the process of human thought needs to be aided by divine grace. It is the oldest and most influential alternative to naturalism in the theory of mind and epistemology. It was an important feature of ancient Greek philosophy, Neoplatonism, medieval philosophy. (liked by Rothschild)

Daphne Creek Dyer: What are your goals, as an Illuminatus, Etienne Davignon, to help make this world a better place for all humans?

Etienne Davignon: Daphne Creek Dyer. My duty is to support William Cornelis Van Duyn. (liked by Rothschild)

Daphne Creek Dyer: I respect your duty. Then my questions is directed towards Mr. William Cornelis Van Duyn. Thank you for responding, Mr. Etienne Davignon

Anan Takafumi: "Illuminati" mean to Wisdom and Guangming

Kristy Bates: Illuminated/enlightened ones...to ultimately protect the truth. (liked by Van Duyn)

Zack Moore: To me, it means wisdom hidden from humanity. What does it mean to you, Mr. Van Duyn? Naturally YHWH was not a perfectly benevolent god, what is rationalized because of this?
The knowledge of Lucifer is the knowledge of excess. Has excess served the world well?

Koifi Derwydd: the word means one bestowed with lux (light). the connotation of the word varies widely, and not just based on the conduct of those who bear the light. All 'matter' is sustained by the constant absorption and emission of light, which is the maaswerk or matrix within which the design we call life is woven. Light may clarify or blind the viewer. It is not a neutral or inherently beneficial force; rather, like all forces it is subject to the laws of periodicity, proportion, consonance and dissonance. Many have commented that in occult circles 'Lux' , has the connotation of etheric energy or occult energy in the blood and hormones flowing out during sex magic or a sacrifice. Perhaps all living beings are transceivers of subtle light. Those who comprehend and percieve the dynamics of such light often do not choose to share their knowledge with the profane; indeed, it often seems that they spend all their time manipulating human consciousness and biochemistry to suppress the growing awareness of such topics. Any priesthood or hierachy is doomed and made obsolete by the illumination of the congregates, thus we are given 'religions' and scientific priests to maintain the separation between the adept and the profane which creates a kind of pneumatic engine or a voltage potential of power which priesthoods require to maintain them and their activity.

William Cornelis Van Duyn: Kristy Bates What would be the reason to "protect" the Truth?

Lee Neely: The hierarchy of Lucifer.

William Cornelis Van Duyn: Lee Neely. No! Wrong direction. Forget the devils, lucifer and satanism...

Joel A. Rodriguez: How about the creator, God. Is that the right direction? (liked by Van Duyn)

Koifi Derwydd: who is controlling access to the light? neoplatonists. . .let's just say they have a long-term concern with creating social and racial hierarchies. . .whether it be in 'the republic' or brahmin caste of hindus. . .they tell you they are concerned that you might burn your eyes if you saw the truth. . .it's an ongoing thing. http://upload.wikimedia.org/.../Platon_Cave_Sanraedam... (liked by Van Duyn)

Zack Moore: If everyone knew the truth to be self evident, wouldn't it eliminate all philisophical disagreement and material despairity in the world in time? The only reason I can think you would "protect" (hide) the truth is to ensure it does not get fully corrupted for the time it's keeper decide it is ripe for release. Awfully cryptic for vanguards of the Truth. (liked by Van Duyn)

Kevin Clarkson: Illuminati means the enlightened ones to me. The Philosopher Kings. The Illuminati derive their power through knowledge and that makes them just as the rightful rulers.
Marcos Dutra, I agree with your facts but I disagree on the perception these facts build up to.
Yes the Illuminati have been in charge of the wars. But they have also been in charge of all the good in the world too. Like food, modern medicine, and law & order. Their good has far out-weighed their bad.
Have you seen the show Game of Thrones? In the show, they kill people on the daily! I'm gracious everyday that the Illuminati has advanced our society so much that regular day life is not like Game of Thrones!
Lucifer has gotten a bad wrap. Bigotes De La Mancha puts Lucifer in the same positive perspective that I also put him in. Lucifer could very well be aliens too that are helping guide us.
The Aztecs and Mayans also practiced human sacrifice. This one is a little harder to argue but basically... the illuminati has provided for the food, safety, and security of everyone in USA, Europe, and other parts of the world. That's 1 billion+ people. I'll give them a pass if they have human sacrificed a few people in comparison to that. I believe it was done to build brotherhood sorta like a gang initiation. I know that is dark but the Illuminati's good over history far outweighs it's bad. (liked by Van Duyn)

Kristy Bates: My opinion on that, Mr. Van Duyn, is that sometimes the truth is too much for people to comprehend.
I really appreciate your hard work. (liked by Van Duyn)

Zachary Gomez: Enlightened via occult gnosis.

Kristy Bates: Not many things can protect the truth. (liked by Van Duyn)

William Cornelis Van Duyn: What is God? Who is God? How can you define God?

William Cornelis Van Duyn: Zachary Gomez:Gnostic ideas influenced many ancient religions that teach that gnosis (variously interpreted as knowledge, enlightenment, salvation, emancipation or 'oneness with God') may be reached by practicing philanthropy to the point of personal poverty and diligently searching for wisdom by helping others.

Zachary Gomez: Right. That makes sense and I'm aware of the ancient mystery religions. So you would say that pride is a virtue?

Kevin Clarkson: I don't believe in the Christian, Biblical God. I believe in aliens. The closest alien I consider to be the all-powerful, all-creating, #1 God would be this being I heard about called The One Infinite Creator. I define a God as a creator. In my view, I consider YHWH and Lucifer to be different alien groups and I consider them sub-creators.

Joel A. Rodriguez: How can you define God? Same way as you can define love

Joel A. Rodriguez: I agree that God is the creator Kevin Clarkson.

Bigotes De La Mancha: Well I would believe that to most enlightened beings, God is the self, before expression, before perspective skews what is whole and pure. God is singularity but when viewed in physicality becomes dual natured. Both positive and negative, both light and dark for one cannot exist without the other. There is no way to truly define God. Da'at. Gnosis.
Again not necessarily my beliefs. God is love and love is real. (liked by Van Duyn)

Bigotes De La Mancha: Agape

William Cornelis Van Duyn: Joel A. Rodriguez Imagine God is Creation-Knowledge-Balance. Take the creations of artists, the knowledge of wise people and the Balance of Love and tolerance: we would be a part of God! Wouldn't God be a part of us? (liked by Rothschild)

Mehmet Ozdogan: All right! I said bye yesterday, and I was not planning to be back, but the reason why I said bye has been obsolete because of this post because I thought the subject of Illuminati must be gone into in this platform more important than anything else. So, thanks for the post. Dear Etienne Davignon, thanks for your explanation, and it is a reasonable one which will help to clear the minds of many people who think Illuminati is devil business. This is why I insisted yesterday that especially this platform must be well used to show to the public what Illuminati is in reality so that many outrageous conspiracy theories will be wiped away. I might have expressed myself with a little bit of hot temper as I really am passionate about true love of wisdom which in fact means philosophy, and I have seen in my research that the very origins of Illuminati is also quite deeply related with such love of wisdom contrary to the prevalent image of devil business it has in the eyes of public today. So, please know dear William that it was all about my personal passion for the wisdom and the very desire to know deeply about Illuminati, and nothing personal. I hope I did not break your heart as that is really the last thing I would like to do in this world for any human being, and I hope you are not angry at me. I am sure you have enough tolerance for such matters as long as the other party is sincere, and I really am sincere. Thanks again for this important post.

Ben Noyes: William Cornelis Van Duyn do you believe we live in a fallen world due to Lucifer deceiving us as stated in the Biblical Genesis account? And we now see death & suffering because of the consequences of sin and disobeying the creator? Or do you believe the creator is the author and creator of good and evil and there is an intentional balance of good and evil? I'm going to assume you don't believe Jesus was God manifest in the flesh? Cheers

Mehmet Ozdogan: "enlightenment, salvation, emancipation or 'oneness with God') may be reached by practicing philanthropy to the point of personal poverty and diligently searching for wisdom by helping others." William Cornelis Van Duyn. I would like to question this a little bit If I may. Can 'enlightenment' be reached if there is any motive behind our actions? In another words, if I help the others, or if I renounce all my wealth by helping others to the point of poverty with a motive in the background to reach enlightenment, then is my action true renunciation, or merely a kind of business deal in which I will give away all my wealth and in return get god?

Mehmet Ozdogan: And, I do have a question here which I think is quite important. Is there democratic freedom within Illuminati or absolute obedience to the leader?

Cathy Tsering: ahem, Mehmet, aren't you forgetting something? How about apologizing for calling me a lawyer? lol (liked by Van Duyn)

Marcos Dutra: The real question is: who is God? Yahweh, with Lucifer as a created fallen angel, or the Pleroma/Ein Sof, with Lucifer as his main emanation.
Both alternatives will say that God is balance, beauty, etc, so defining God by His attributes won't tell us much about the reality. The root of the subject is epistemological: from where do we get knowledge about God? From direct revelation and incarnation, as the Bible teaches, or by spirit guides? Gnosis is not about behavior or philanthropy, it is a spiritual experience that always ends up with a contact with spirits, even though gnostic sects may recommend this or that code of conduct. These spirits may be good, as gnostics believe, or deceiving evil angels, as Christians and Muslims preach.
Regarding God's character in his creation: a watch reveals the craftsmanship and skill of the watchmaker, but it obviously isn't the same as its creator, not does it partake of his nature. Not a good argument for monism.
I suggest for those interested the book "One or Two" by Peter R Jones, perhaps the best explanation of gnostic thinking so far.

Mehmet Ozdogan: "That's 1 billion+ people. I'll give them a pass if they have human sacrificed a few people in comparison to that." No Kevin Clarkson. That is absolutely unacceptable as such atrocious act has nothing to do with enlightenment which is the original philosophy of Illuminati. It is easy to talk, but think about yourself being the sacrifice. In ancient times, of course humanity in his ignorance might have been involved with such actions, but in our age those who seek illumination in the real sense like Illuminati can not be involved with such things because true wisdom has nothing to do with killing another human being. On the contrary, true wisdom serves the prevention of any kind of killing. I guess some sects have been in Illuminati that practiced such things, and as far as I know Mr.Van Duyn has been doing great effort to purge such groups within Illuminati naturally facing great threat and difficulty, and he does deserve a big thanks for such purge which I think a great wise step which brings Illuminati one step closer to its ultimate goal.

Marcos Dutra: Mehmet in order for Mr Van Duyn to do what you say, Lucifer would have to retire or change his nature, both impossible events. He is very coherent in his hatred of humankind. Any disloyalty would be punished with death.

Mehmet Ozdogan: You see how much passion I have for this thing called love of wisdom. I can hardly stop typing Thanks again for your patience and tolerance William. But, your such tolerance will be seen and be appreciated greatly in the eyes of public which will again change the Illuminati image in public. You must have so much tolerance and love my dear friend, as it is not easy to be the head of the illumined ones

Scott Longman: Arrogance

Mehmet Ozdogan: “Neither a lofty degree of intelligence nor imagination nor both together go to the making of genius. Love, love, love, that is the soul of genius.”
― Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Mehmet Ozdogan: Marcus, the very origins of Illuminati has nothing to do with Lucifer or that kind of stuff, just like the very origin of the truth of Jesus has nothing to do with what majority of Christians believe in today. So called Christians have done so many evil things, killed so much as well like killing many poor women thinking they are witches. So, shall we judge the whole of Christianity as being evil because of such atrocious acts ? Of course not! And for the same reason we can not judge Illuminati as a whole, and I think we should support any such efforts like Mr.Van Duyn is doing to take Illuminati back to its original philosophy which is all about love of true wisdom and creative and free humanity. ""let him who is without sin, cast the first stone" Jesus. Let us not judge.

Mehmet Ozdogan: Sorry Cathy if I hurt you, but please believe I had no such intention. Just take it as a bad joke please

Mehmet Ozdogan: "Imagine God is Creation-Knowledge-Balance. Take the creations of artists, the knowledge of wise people and the Balance of Love and tolerance: we would be a part of God! Wouldn't God be a part of us?" William Cornelis Van Duyn. I guess we would be gods then rather then being a part, as god must be an indivisible whole

Cathy Tsering: just a joke Mehmet, no worries....

Anan Takafumi: God dualism. Buddha monism. (liked by Van Duyn)

Anan Takafumi: Beyond good and evil, population. (liked by Van Duyn)

Harry Connor Jr.: The term “Illuminati” is subjective.
One's understanding of what it means to be illuminated depends on the eye of one's perception. Here is my humble attempt.
No one man or group can fully define the term, for it is a relatively modern term, yet it has very ancient roots.
A mere few hundred years of the use of the modern term, “Illuminati”, compared to over tens of thousands, and perhaps even hundreds of thousands of years of civilizations that have come and gone, cannot accurately define it.
However, the idea of “light”, or “mental and spiritual illumination” is not modern. In fact it is very ancient. Acceptance or denial of any view depends on the preconditioning form of education, or the depth of ignorance of an individual, and not necessarily on knowledge, or Gnostic chains of evidence, for there are gaps in all.
There is the modern view, with its variations, that is essentially a secular view, depending on who is expounding it. Granted there are those who would say it is more than that, containing mysteries and secrets to properly functioning societies.
There is the near ancient view, also with its variations, containing myths, which the secular mind for the most part, rejects. These views also can contain secrets to alternative forms of societies.
Then there is the far ancient view, hidden, occultic, and veiled in great and profound mysteries, which perhaps, with great care and good fortune, the spiritual mind may search out.
Again, it depends on the view. It all turns on one's perception.
The eye of perception will determine the light that enters the body of the man, for it is “precept on precept, and line upon line”.
“The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!”
In all cases, from the far ancient to the modern, the “illuminated ones”, have used two powers.
SUPERIMPOSITION and MISDIRECTION. This is a light that is in fact a “great darkness”.
By these they have ruled over the people through essentially two classes.
The KINGS and the PRIESTS; both classes using forms of the two powers to effect their rule.
The proper term for this is the Greek term Nikolaitēs, to Conquer the Laity, or be victorious over the people. The truly illuminated mind that is honest with itself, knows that this is true. History proves it, making it undeniable.
Some have been benevolent, some malevolent. There is a benevolence that appears malevolent, and a malevolence that appears benevolent. Only the discerning mind can separate the two.
The singular term Lucifer, the “light bearer” is a misnomer, for the light that is born by this fiction is in fact darkness. There is no singular Lucifer, there are only the corporate Ha Shatan, or “those who oppose” the true light, raising up every lofty idea possible to oppose the true light, using SUPERIMPOSITION and MISDIRECTION to achieve this end.
Because they cannot be perceived by the natural eye, they are denied, and in this lies their subtle power. To remain hidden is to be occult. To be occult is to be non-existent to the unilluminated mind.
Two great and malevolent powers do the Ha Shatan wield, and by these do the KINGS and PRIESTS of the earth, their natural agents, hold their place, if they are honest enough to admit it, for whether they know it or not, they are nothing more than place-holders for the real Ha Shatan. This fact will offend their pride. Some illuminated ones embrace it.
These two great and malevolent powers are DEATH and DESTRUCTION. By them they tell LIES, wage WAR, commit THIEFTS, and DESTROY Human lives. With these two powers they have covenanted in exchange for wealth and power to live as gods over men.
Human BLOOD and ENERGY are the fuels that maintain their place in both the seen and unseen worlds. All kingdoms and religions are maintained by these, however subtle their SUPERIMPOSED forms or MISDIRECTIVE labels.
The truly illuminated mind will agree.
The unilluminated mind is in denial of this, preferring to believe a lie, for mankind do love their delusions, for in them they hold to a form of happiness or godliness, to whatever degree they are willing to accept, for one man's floor is another man's ceiling.
The mental pain of a cognitive dissonance to difficult to bear, the UN-renewed mind quickly returning to the familiar comfort of their delusion, whatever form it may take.
The true light is FREEDOM. Freedom from want, freedom from war, freedom from fear. All humanity instinctively knows this, and has rebelled against it's oppressors throughout history.
You will know a tree by it's fruit. This tree of illumination is predatory. Its fruit is self evident.
Either make the tree good or make the tree bad. If the tree is not made good, the axe will be laid at the root of it, and not by man, for everyone, despite their hubris, is under a greater authority, for death comes to us all, and is the great leveller that no man can resist.
To understand this, and to meditate upon it, to consider it deeply, may bring the true light to a humble soul.
Not to is to walk in darkness, thinking it is the light. Yet,“how great is that darkness!” (liked by Van Duyn and Rothschild)

Jeff M Stevens: I think the various comments here have covered the possible meanings based on my superficial understanding from what is available for nonmembers to read and "conspiracy exposes". But more importantly is what will it mean - will it be an organization/secret society/occult fraternity which is focussed on maintaining concentrated power via wealth and manipulation or will it be a tool/force to assist in the upward spiral of humanity with its influence and vast resources? I suppose that is in the hands of its leadership to decide.

Daphne Creek Dyer: Jeff M Stevens, I also want to know what all of this means and where it will lead us. Mr. Van Duyn, you have asked the question,"What does the Illuminati mean to us?" This is a hard question to answer and the many responses you have received validates the intricacy of the question. It may also mean you have a curiosity about us as we do you and the Illuminati. You see, we (I only speak for myself) are seekers of knowledge and truth as well, otherwise, we would not even know of your existence. But I have not had access to the vast knowledge and upper echelons of education that you have and, I would suppose, most of those you know. I have not been educated in ancient knowledge and wisdom, thus, I have had to spend years doing my own research using great discernment to get to the point where I am. I hope you understand that the majority of us have been mislead from childhood--get-em while they are young as they say. In the United States, I was not taught in a holistic fashion. Every discipline was separated and connections were not made. We have been lied to by our education system, our politicians, our government, our media, our healthcare system. And on and on it goes. You stated in your speech that the media is now your enemy but in my eyes, the media has protected you (The Bilderberg Group) for 60 years. We have 5-6 big media corps that control newspapers, magazines, entertainment, news etc. What I see around me is garbage and I am astonished that they believe we believe what they are shoving done our throats. Once one opens one's eyes and places the thousands of pieces of the puzzle together, it is very hard to be deceived. So I conclude with this question. Since all of the presidents, kings, world leaders and such are the puppets of the all powerful Illuminati, why is the world so wrong instead of so right? I understand polarity, duality and the necessity of evil. I, for one, found the light out of my own darkness. I want to understand beyond that. As always, with respect. (liked by Rothschild)

Kevin Hill: @Daphne, in my opinion it's "wrong" because man simply chooses to construct his world in a negative light. When will we take individual responsibility for ourselves and stop blaming everyone else? It begins with you, me. Man can have the Heaven as intended he only has to decide it. God created all, therefore ALL comes from Love. Negativity is given to us as a choice or a catalyst during this great, separation experience. Man decides for himself which path to follow. So far, we've not done well as we've forgotten so much and man has yet to live up to his full potential.[/B (liked by Van Duyn and Rothschild)

[B]William Cornelis Van Duyn: Kevin Hill I am delighted to read your comments. I do agree with you. Kevin, what would you do to change man's negative behaviour? How would you approach them?

Moses Elijah: Illuminati: 'those who have had their eyes opened'

Harry Connor Jr.: I'm hearing echos of New Age Autosoterism. Every society has expounded these at one time or another, and all have fallen. Will our time be any different? Babylon, Persia, Rome; to name a few. Until the essential nature of the human being is changed, there will be nothing new under the sun. What had been will be again. This view is not negativity. It is reality. So, the truer question would be, "How do you change the nature of man?"

Jeff M Stevens: @ William - I am assuming you are speaking of a Qabbalistic approach where our earthly experience is a means for our own evolution through challenges, resistance etc and by taking "ownership" of that as a karmic debt and life lesson we chose in this incarnation instead of the "bad" things done to us by others. This way we focus on our own spiritual alchemy and living in harmony with the Tao/Source/Godhead instead of being ruled by emotional reaction to external events.

Daphne Creek Dyer: @Kevin Hill. I find it intriguing you used the word "catalyst" for our choice of free will. Do you believe God was given an ultimatum during the great separation experience? Yes,Yes,Yes, people have choice between positive and negative AND how they react to it, that is blatantly apparent. I have no refutation on that issue. I take responsibility for myself and others should as well, including those who create false flags in order to create war for their greedy means. Genocide. British petroleum and all oil spills. Decimating rain forests...bla bla bla--no one is listening. Did you not read that I am speaking of the governments. world leaders, Rockefellers, Rothchilds, the movers and shakers of this world who have billions of dollars to do as they wish without any regard to humans or the well-being of this earth. Was Mr. Van Duyn being facetious when he said that these very people were the Illuminati's puppets. If not, then when is the Illuminati going to take responsibility? Correct me if I am wrong, if seems you and Mr. Van Duyn have the same philosophy. Gnosticism, Hermetic Philosophy and the Kybalion, and that God is a sub-level logos and not the Ultimate Creator. I may be off base but you did not fully understand my last post either. (liked by Rothschild)

Mehmet Ozdogan: By the way, I came to this FB page because I thought it can be a house of wisdom as it is alleged to be owned by the head of the illumined ones who are supposed to have lots of tolerance, love, compassion and kindness which implies talking to serious lovers of wisdom, or just merely saying I am not interested in true wisdom, but in fun. That is ok too, but then the image of Illuminati will even be worse than before in public eyes, because before at least there was a mystery of an unknown thing, and if now people begin to know that there in fact is nothing much behind that mystery in terms of intelligence, philosophical depth and wisdom, then that will be the total destruction of Illuminati. That is why I mentioned before it is a serious thing to come out into the light after hundreds of years of existence behind the close doors, and if not handled well, it will destroy the image of Illuminati,, and it is that image that sustains the power. So, in that sense again relying on the tolerance of the house host, I want to say that unless serious philosophical talk and love of wisdom is not welcomed by the host himself in this house, then such guests shall leave. Based on that, I will appreciate if the host will be kind enough to let me know whether such people are welcome in his house, or they should leave. I do not mind to be honest. I do not like to stay in a place where I am not wanted it does not matter whose house that is. I will for sure be welcomed to the house of truly illumined ones as they feel and know instinctively who truly loves wisdom. And, they can be very poor illumined people as well rather than the so called illumined with enormous wealth and who is gathering more and more wealth through his funds and then who at the same time talks about giving away all one's wealth in the help of others to the point of having nothing Good talk! But, the truly illumined one acts rather than talking I guess. If true wisdom and those who are serious and sincere in the search for such wisdom are not sincerely welcomed as good guests by the host of this FB page, then this very page will act as the most destructful force to the kingdom of illuminati. Those who have the heart of the wise will hear these words.

Mehmet Ozdogan: Those who pretend to have the heart of the wise will delete them

Mehmet Ozdogan: Sorry

Mehmet Ozdogan: As I said before I like truth which is love of wisdom. I madly fell in love with Sophia long time ago, and I am almost about to be terribly disappointed, in terms of love of wisdom , about the fact of Illuminati after visiting this house that is said to be hosted by the very leader of the so called illumined ones. I began to wonder whether this is a fake page run by someone who is playing a game because my idea of Illuminati was really about truly intelligent and wise people flowering with the very original wisdom of their founders. Strange!

Mehmet Ozdogan: I am bored to be honest. It still is very banal. Ciao

Charles Jacob Rothschild: Mehmet Ozdogan If you dont understand the topics or accept it with your own ears, don't invent it with your small mind & share it with your big mouth.

Mehmet Ozdogan: I wonder how you could tag my name Charles as I am not your FB friend

Mehmet Ozdogan: Anyway such vulgar tone of language can not belong to an illumined person, can it? Is this the tone to be used in talks of wisdom? Obviously not! Therefore, not only I am bored, I think I have wasted my precious time as well. Bye!

Mehmet Ozdogan: A free human consciousness is flowering sirs. That might as well be called god A new age is approaching for human kind. Perhaps you have been feeling the immense strength of it for some time, and what you felt is only the tip of the iceberg gentlemen. When the total explosion of that free human consciousness takes place universe will be a new universe. It is that big that which is coming. Clock is ticking, and fear can not change the destiny but true wisdom can, and that is why I very friendly tried to give you some suggestions about what is on the way, and the wise way of dealing with that which is coming soon. Neither a vulgar tone of language, nor ignoring wisdom can deal with the magnitude of approaching explosion because that explosion of free human consciousness will be such an immense of an earthquake in its magnitude that it will shake the very foundations of the universe.I met lately so many people whose intelligence and wisdom is overwhelming in comparison to mine. So many of them are there now. They look very ordinary from outside though that it is almost impossible to tell their difference. I think I have done my best by trying to warn kindly. And, I really was very sincere and friendly in my words. And, I really have no prejudice or anger against Illuminati. I can be friends to them like I can be a friend to the poor. But, I am sincerely bored a bit, and I do not think vulgar language will help the flowering of wisdom at all nor do I think I did anything to deserve such language. This is for sure not the path to the coming new age of humanity. Therefore, sincerely Good Bye gentleman! Take care

Charles Jacob Rothschild: Mehmet Ozdogan Good Heaven! You are so shakespearean and don't make assumptions. Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want. Communicate with others as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings and drama. With just this one agreement, you can completely transform yourself including others.

Mehmet Ozdogan: I already asked a few legitimate questions, but they have not been addressed to? Let me ask you then in this case

Mehmet Ozdogan: 1-What do you think is at the origin of human problems, and what is way of dealing with that? I guess this is a very legitimate question to be asked Illuminati, as they are powerful enough to deal with such matters, right?

Mehmet Ozdogan: 2-Is there a sense of democratical freedom within Illuminati itself or absolute obedience to the leader?

Mehmet Ozdogan: By the way Charles, if may call you Charles, I think you are a good man. I sincerely think it because of your nice Aura, and also I have seen a video of how peaceful you have reacted to a vulgar confrontation on the street by a conspiracy journalist. Having said that, I guess I deserve an apology for your a bit vulgar language towards me I do not mind, nor did I get hurt, but I think there is a better and friendly way of communication and I sincerely think you have the goodness and the wisdom in your heart to know such way of communication.

Charles Jacob Rothschild 1- The Seven Sins are the origin of human disaster. 2- Freedom and Democracy are a human illusion! Those two elements do not exist.

Mehmet Ozdogan: "1- The Seven Sins are the origin of human disaster." So, what is the wise way of dealing with this, or there is no way of dealing with it at all and we are eternally doomed to live with this disaster?

Marcos Dutra Mehmet: I don't make the statement that gnosticism and western esoterism are basically Lucifer worship as a Bible thumping fanatic, but based on the study of their own works and testimony from former participants. Gnosis or enlightenment is a spiritual experience that must come from somewhere, and gnosticism teaches that it is Lucifer that brings this light through meditation, astral projection and direct dialogue. Lucifer and his angels supposedly appear and talk to high ranking occultists. Lesser-rank spirits do give advice and commands to followers all the time in many religions, as a very casual observation of occult practices may show you.
Therefore, everything boils down to a matter of trust:
-would you trust Yahweh as God revealed in the Bible and in the incarnation of Jesus Christ as truth, based on credible historical facts and a testimony of amazing love for mankind through his sacrifice,
- or will you believe that Lucifer has been terribly misunderstood, that he only has good intentions for mankind and that Yahweh only wants us to stay ignorant, even though throughout history Lucifer has been blamed for the most horrible atrocities.
I would not have problems against a group of powerful rich men who wanted to do the best for mankind. Who would? The worst thing that could happen would be for them to fail. But, as it is obvious by Mr Van Duyn's statements and background, this is a religious, spiritual endeavour they are participating. And if they are trusting the wrong side, and they let vanity and pride take control energized by an evil spiritual being, the consequences for the world and even for themselves may be catastrophic, even if their intentions are the best.

Marcos Dutra: Mr Rothschild, when you refer to the seven sins, are you talking about transgressions to the seven Noahide laws? Thank you.
Mehmet Ozdogan: 2-When it comes to Democracy, I might agree with you to a certain extent, but why do you think Freedom is an illusion?

Mehmet Ozdogan: I think I put forward my questions as clearly as possible as you suggested, and now the ball is at your side to answer to prevent drama and misunderstanding in your own terms Thanks for your understanding!

Jeremy Francis: "Illuminati" is both an incorrect term and used to disinform those who attempt research of it. No matter what their personal beliefs are, the PTSNB above all are knowledge hoarders and kleptocrats. They have and will steal civilization's ideas, then use them to become more powerful over us. If you don't like that, and attempt to change this oligarchical system technologically, they will kill you if you won't be recruited.
These are people who are schooled in the arts of retaining power generationally. They will do whatever it takes to keep being the alpha dogs of this planet, and do. And they'll certainly starve us off(in more ways than 50) if they need to. The plans are operational, the single thing that's saved us is everyone wants to keep their hands clean of planetary genocide, at least of white people, whom they consider distant cousins.
They will admit they are here, but not what knowledge they have. This would be handing over the reins, if you will. Instead, they will try to bring you into their oligarchical collectivism, any way they can. And Will.
They like to fancy themselves as stewards of the planet. They need to take look around. Perhaps a new approach is needed. Look at what hoarding knowledge has brought not just you, but everything that has been affected by oligarchical rule. Indeed none of our hands are clean to what's been done to the planet and each other, but some are more guilty than others. We all know what will save everything, so let's not step around the elephant in the room: a complete disclosure of technological knowledge the population is not allowed to have. Its only by working together can we work together. We all have input with no mysterious secrets, in complete honesty, no bs.
With all due respect, in my humble opinion.

Cathy Tsering: While spending a bit of time among the Navajo/Dine community I developed a particular appreciation for their communication style. A great deal of importance is placed on listening and understanding a particular person or topic from several angles over time. I don't know if I ever in 10 or so years heard a Navajo blurt out the first thing that comes to their mind. You observe and let things sit a bit, pause, and then respond. There is some discipline and respect involved. There is no perception that what they have to say is absolutely correct and indisputable. There is in the least a bit of flexibility. Sometimes we perceive people as simple and yet they are extremely complex and have much to teach us. Other times those we perceive as complex have very little understanding of anything that matters. (liked by Van Duyn)

Jeff M Stevens: Let us say, playing Devil's Advocate , that all the terrible things attributed to the Illuminatti are absolutely true and that either because of growing compassion within the group or due to external pressures from entities such as the White Dragon Society etc, there is a modification of the group's motivation and agenda and they do indeed wish to assist in the collective betterment of mankind - so now what? Obviously most would be skeptical and assume this is all another Obama-esque PR campaign to make us let our guards down while other things are then implemented (chipping of citizens, depopulation or other forms of populace control) because so many of us think the organization either hoards power and control out of pure dynastic greed or genuinely serves some extra-dimensional force which thrives on misery and chaos. But if the goal is a true global spiritual awakening and not a collective submission to serfdom how will the organization's vast resources and power do that? Simply throwing money at the "problem" won't fix it as it will simply encourage more sloth and self
absorption. But up until now hardship and powerlessness in the masses has also fed this by a desire for escapism from their day-to-day sense of hopelessness and despair. How can the Illuminati become a genuine source of inspiration and aspiration to the masses without it being superficially embraced out of materialism and hedonism?

Kevin Clarkson: Lord Rothschild laying it down LIKE A BOSS!!!! (liked by Van Duyn)

Kevin Hill: @William, Remove the veil so that man may gaze upon his own reflection and discover his own balance. For a time the populace will be like angry children whose toys have been taken away but mankind must be courageous enough to use his own reason in order to self illuminate.

Limor Wolf

12th June 2014, 21:38

I feel very blessed when reading the last posts on this thread (besides the very last two Houman posted which I haven't read yet), beginning from Daughter of time. I am usually feeling quite unable to verbalize on these matters, such is the programming I was given - I am not allowed to talk, nor to engage when it comes to the intricacies of the inner world, of our reality-matrix, of our government and it's off worlds involvments and connections.. But I am able to observe and acknowledge the courage and integrity of spirit of those of you who are walking the warrior path...

Abductions, Mkultra, divine support, government survellience, synchronicities, deep anxiety, childhood programs, isolation, joy of the spirit, inner strength, trauma, wierdnesses, satanic rituals, feeling differnt, being psychically used for sinisiter purposes and as opposed for benevolence as well, exraterrestrials, extradimensionals, energy beings and the future of our planet, living a limited life, a Truman show, absolutely unable to do what others can, and an outside appearence of an avarage citizen so no one pays attention.

I touch base with you, Dot, in more ways than you may know, including father-daughter relationship, the processing of forgivness, deep inner understanding of where we are going and the needed process of elimination, cleaning, and clearing. Done not only on behalf of the individual.. I feel that your openess is invaluable and it helps not only yourself, but it helps others as well, if only for the mere fact that it gives a reassurence for some of us that we are not alone, I personally listen to you and learn about your path and I can sense about other's as well and feel content and at peace with what I verify and come to understand.

Not to over dramatise anything, the ordinary is still there in every moment in every day, and routine has it's own purpose. But this trail consists of pain and sorrow, of elation and magnanimity, agony and miracles all together in one breath .. and yet so simple, clear, embracing, understandable and familiar. It is all just rolling as it should be.

My intent in writing this is nothing but to say 'thank you' to all here, just like Justone, Donc and others, my way to Houman's thread was not a result of any casual strolling. It was inevitable, and one that goes along other processes in my life. I recieved this tingling (more like a medium strike of lightening), a feeling that I should be here for a reason, even though not quite aware to what this thread is about, however, I knew it was meaningful. And so, wires are being pulled via people, and the subtleness and gentleness of it stands in sheer contrast to the attempts of demolition and the efforts of prevention..

If for any reason, some of the players that are doing the 'deep dark' role are aware to this thread, I would like to convey this to them -
You are known and appreciated for playing your part of the game, it is nothing but a dead end that is pursued by you, walking it is up to you but you do not have the permission to take hostages. We will turn our energy from you, will reclaim our independency, and aqcuire the knowledge of this existance, it will be borne via wisdom and cooperation. Chain of events in this existance seems to be one of an energetic subjugation for so called higher forces, that makes every role player within this reality and it's tangents (knowingly or not), a prisoners for higher forces than them, breaking this chains may come from the bottom this time. We will reclaim our world, reclaim our universe and reclaim our sovereignty. You are all invited to do the same

All the best

Limor

Houman

13th June 2014, 01:38

are aware to this thread,

They are...

Houman

13th June 2014, 02:11

From Van Duyn's facebook

"William Cornelis Van Duyn: Freedom can't exist in a political vacuum. Your government must assure and protect your rights. You are the voice of democracy.
Is Freedom compatible with Democracy?"
....
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e87/Magicdwags/INDIAN%20GREAT%20PEOPLE/KONDIARONK/huron3_zps777dfb3b.jpg

From Chief Adario

"
Adario, a seventeenth-century Huron chief, was also known as Kondiaronk (his Huron name) and The Rat (so called by the French). He had a high reputation for bravery and sagacity, and played a prominent part in Frontenac’s War (1689-1697) — a series of conflicts between the French and English, and between the French along with their Indian allies and the Iroquois. His skill in diplomacy and confederating the tribes made him an acclaimed peacemaker. He died in Montreal during an important peace conference in 1701. Adario travelled widely and said of his travels: "I have been in France, New York and Quebec, where I Study’d the Customs and Doctrines of the English and French." The following discourse took place between Adario and Baron de Lahontan, a Frenchman, explorer and Lord Lieutenant of the French colony at Placentia in Newfoundland. Lahontan has just explained to Adario that without punishing the wicked and rewarding the good, murder and robbery would spread everywhere, and the white man would soon be the most miserable people upon the earth. Adario, in turn, interprets his understanding of the white man’s law.

Nay, you are miserable enough already, and indeed I can't see how you can be more such. What sort of Men must the Europeans be? What species of creatures do they retain to? The Europeans, who must be forced to do Good, and have no other Prompter for avoiding of Evil than the fear of Punishment. If I asked thee, what a Man is, thou wouldst answer me, He’s a Frenchmen, and yet I’ll prove that your Man is rather a Beaver. For Man is not entitled to that character upon the force of his walking upright upon two Legs, or of Reading and Writing, and showing a Thousand other Instances of his Industry....

Who gave you all the Countries that you now inhabit, by what Right do you possess them? They always belonged to the ALGONKINS before. In earnest, my dear Brother, I’m sorry for thee from the bottom of my soul. Take my advice, and turn HURON; for I see plainly a vast difference between thy condition and mine. I am Master of my Condition and mine. I am Master of my own Body, I have the absolute disposal of my self, I do what I please, I am the first and the last of my Nation, I fear no Man, and I depend only upon the Great Spirit. Whereas, thy Body, as well as thy Soul, are doomed to a dependence upon thy great Captain, thy Vice-Roy disposes of thee, thou hast not the liberty of doing what thou hast a mind to; thou art afraid of Robbers, false Witnesses, Assassins, etc., and thou dependest upon an infinity of Persons whose Places have raised them above thee. Is it true or not?

"

http://d.gr-assets.com/authors/1168729178p5/432.jpg
From Ayn Rand

"We are fast approaching the stage of inversion: The stage where government does as it pleases, while the citizen may act only by permission; which is the Stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force."

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ac/Poster_for_film_%22Atlas_Shrugged_Part_II%22_(2012).png
From Atlas Shrugged (Ayn Rand)

“If there are degrees of evil, it is hard to say who is the more contemptible: the brute who assumes the right to force the mind of others or the moral degenerate who grants to others the right to force his mind. "

Limor Wolf

13th June 2014, 04:34

are aware to this thread,

They are...

Classical response - good
Quantum response- it matters not

Back to reading the rest of the posts ~

Best,

Limor

Chester

13th June 2014, 11:54

are aware to this thread,

They are...

Classical response - good
Quantum response- it matters not

Back to reading the rest of the posts ~

Best,

Limor

It is my view that it matters. In fact, I base my view upon my own experience with the quantum field. By engaging the quantum field, I have experienced profound results.

My choice is to give up ("It matters not") or act. Isn't to post at all an act?

It matters... everything matters... it matters to those who come after us. Let's do our best.

Limor Wolf

13th June 2014, 13:09

donk

13th June 2014, 19:09

So I listened to the (incredibly tragic) Laurel Aston interviews, and I was wondering about the following new (to me) information:
-comic books as “deeds/leases” for slaves
-radiation used to purge memory
….and how about “smileys” and Prince Kareem AgaKahn (I have no idea how to spell either, she talks about this in the second youtube)
Is there more information about any of this anywhere?

Houman

13th June 2014, 20:28

-radiation used to purge memory

Not clear if this was electro-magnetic radiation/ electron beam radiation/ x-ray radiation or micro-wave radiation (all of these are known to cause memory loss)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1290816

Biull Eksp Biol Med. 1992 Nov;114(11):483-4.
[The effect of ultrahigh-frequency electromagnetic radiation on learning and memory processes].
[Article in Russian]
Krylova IN, Dukhanin AS, Il'in AB, Kuznetsova EIu, Balaeva NV, Shimanovskiĭ NL, Pal'tsev IuP, Iasnetsov VV.
Abstract
Low-intensity electromagnetic field (12.6 cm, 2375 MHz, power density 1 mW/cm2) produced retrograde amnesia in the rat passive avoidance test. No effect was registered of microwave irradiation on the open field behavior and the pain sensitivity. Functional activity of the m-cholinergic receptors decreased, but their number increased in the brain cortex. It is suggested that cholinergic system plays an important role in the effects of electromagnetic field on memory processes.

====

Article Citation:
Thomas G. Wheeler and Kenneth A. Hardy (1985) Retrograde Amnesia Produced by Electron Beam Exposure: Causal Parameters and Duration of Memory Loss. Radiation Research: January 1985, Vol. 101, No. 1, pp. 74-80.

Retrograde Amnesia Produced by Electron Beam Exposure: Causal Parameters and Duration of Memory Loss
Thomas G. Wheeler and Kenneth A. Hardy

The production of retrograde amnesia (RA) upon electron beam exposure has been investigated. RA production was evaluated using a single-trial avoidance task across a 104 dose range for 10-, 1-, and 0.1-μsec pulsed exposures. The dose-response curve obtained at each pulse duration showed significant RA production. The most effective dose range was 0.1-10 rad at a dose rate of 106 rad/sec. By employing a 10 rad (106 rad/sec) pulse, a memory loss of the events occurring in the previous 4 sec was demonstrated. The conclusion was that the RA effect might be due to sensory system activation which provided a novel stimulus that masked previous stimuli.

donk

13th June 2014, 20:37

Yikes! Thanks!!

What was that "smiley" cult and prince she was talking about? How bout comic books as sex slave "deeds"? Anyone ever heard of that?

Chester

14th June 2014, 23:59

This thread remains the most important thread on the Avalon Forum. I am making this post to make a point and I am hoping this point can be picked up on.

Thich Nhat Hanh

26020

The point of the above post was to show Thich Nhat Hanh's "capensis" head.

These three posts a few pages back inform about this - Post 1 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=815717&viewfull=1#post815717) - Post 2
(http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=815736&viewfull=1#post815736) - Post 3 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=815764&viewfull=1#post815764)

My only point is that it seems to me each creature of creation has its own ability to choose good or evil, to act good or evil.

Houman

15th June 2014, 02:05

Chester

15th June 2014, 03:34

Everyone in my (bloodline - both sides) family has suffered. My father, dead - "suicide" at age 44. My children's mother attempted suicide 5 times then moved under a tree on a desert island to sell herself for crack... she was "rescued" years later but is loony as can be... will never be the same.

My oldest son, 23 - a full blown alcoholic that somehow goes to work each day. My second oldest, 20 - just bailed on his 10 year probation to escape the state so he can smoke weed and drink. My youngest, 18 - drove him where ever after quitting college and his job - both actions done in the last 1.5 months.

My mother is the most unhappy human I ever met and has no clue thus I have little hope... she is an "atheist" by the way. Have you ever known a happy atheist that is approaching the end of their life?

My only full blood sister is and has been an emotional basket case her entire life (in part and to my deepest regret because of me).

My almost successful suicide attempt just 2.5 years ago... this thread truly changed my life because the information here allowed me to see (and understand) what has been going on.

My choice has been to fear waking up or to continue to wake up.... You (Houman) mentioned early on how those who are close to you are targets... They have always been. Its like "something/someone" saw me coming. Makes no sense.

After listening to Laurel Aston I see... It has been generational. I wonder why I am not angry? I wonder why I don't blame a "them?" I know why. It sustains an old, repetitive archetypal drama and the only solution that makes sense to me is to no longer engage with it.

This is where William Cornelis Van Duyn might start... by a disclosure of these practices upon so many of the Earth's families. I bet he or folks he knows personally have experienced generational SRA.

What a dilemma.

For me, I don't have to "forgive" because the requirement of forgiveness can only be subsequent to judgment. I don't judge it. I understand it. Choices were made by folks long ago and this is what we have now. But the children of these folks... William, Etienne, Charles Jacob - maybe they might say, as I have said to my mother... "Can't we stop passing on this family illness?" So far my mother hasn't even acknowledged it... sadly.

And this explains my current "avatar picture" - I had to put up a wall. But even a wall, with age... can produce life.

Houman

15th June 2014, 04:25

….and how about “smileys” and Prince Kareem AgaKahn (I have no idea how to spell either, she talks about this in the second youtube)
Is there more information about any of this anywhere?

FN3oVRYIYmI

Hazelfern

15th June 2014, 16:07

""Within limitless realms dwells
incorruptibility. Sophia, who is called Pistis, wanted to create something, alone without her
consort; and her product was a celestial thing. A veil exists between the world above and the
realms that are below; and shadow came into being beneath the veil; and that shadow
became matter; and that shadow was projected apart. And what she had created became a
product in the matter, like an aborted fetus. And it assumed a plastic form molded out of
shadow, and became an arrogant beast resembling a lion. It was androgynous, as I have
already said, because it was from matter that it derived."

Hello Houman, just getting started on this thread. I am late no doubt but it is never too late. As I make my way through the pages I may ask you a question or several. This being the first: where is the above quote taken from? -Nonin, a fellow warrior.

Houman

15th June 2014, 16:23

Hazelfern

15th June 2014, 16:25

http://evelorgen.com/wp/tag/primordial-man/
By Dr. Corrado Malanga

This is a recent translation of a 2010 article by Dr.Corrado Malanga. This is only part of the entire article, and more is to come in the future. This article discusses the relevance of myth and archetypal beings such as Adam Kadmon, also known as “The Primordial Man” within the alien abduction phenomena. This figure has arisen in alien abduction testimonies as a kind of Father god figure who has both a beloved and malevolent aspect. He is the head heirarchial figure who, according to Dr. Corrado Malanga, created the aliens who are interacting with humanity, in search of capturing our souls. This being may be what the ancient Gnostics called the Demiurge or Yaltabaoth. In earlier articles the mention of “Archons” has been proposed as being the same power behind alien abductions, specifically “aliens as transdimensional parasites” theory.

Could the Primordial Man figure be the Father God of Abrahamic religions? Is this the figure who our soul returns to after our earthly sourjourn? And if we are to become free of the cycle of rebirth, as Buddhist philosophy teaches, is this the figure who we must bypass to be free of the Matrix of earthly karmic life cycles?

The idea of Primordial Man in the abduction scenario is new to me. I have very little conscious memory of my personal experience, only one very revealing episode where I was able to punch through my fear and witnessed 2 separate aspects of myself. One observing and the other reacting to the situation that defies explanation. The idea of a compliance chip is the only explanation. So, I have to agree that my personal freedom is at stake, along with many others I assume. What could be more important than the freedom of our souls ~ nothing.

Hazelfern

15th June 2014, 16:50

Houman,

An amazing amount of research here. I just wanted to say thank you. Many, many thanks.

Houman

16th June 2014, 04:30

Why would a bank give its customers Dumb Dumb suckers? :sarcastic:

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Chester

16th June 2014, 23:27

The whole discussion (W. Van Duyn's Socratic method of conveying his thoughts via directed questions, posts and "liked" answers)
https://www.facebook.com/william.vanduyn.5?fref=ts

....

Harry Connor Jr.: I'm hearing echos of New Age Autosoterism. Every society has expounded these at one time or another, and all have fallen. Will our time be any different? Babylon, Persia, Rome; to name a few. Until the essential nature of the human being is changed, there will be nothing new under the sun. What had been will be again. This view is not negativity. It is reality. So, the truer question would be, "How do you change the nature of man?"

The excerpt above is from an incredible post... all sorts of responses I hope to make... starting here.

How do we change the nature of man? There is an assumption in this question. The assumption implies something is wrong with man. So let's look at it. What is man's nature? Man is a complex being but to break it down as simply as possible, man is a bio-computer within which a "spirit being" can inhabit. And this is known by various groups of creatures of creation who, for various reasons, enjoy manipulating the bio-computer such that the "spirit being" which inhabits the bio-computer experiences difficulty in maintaining their sovereignty and from there, can become ill (and act in a way that is destructive to others and/or itself) or give up self operation such that another type of being (entity, ensouled or perhaps not) can take over the bio-computer or at least greatly influence the actions of the particular bio-computer.

So we are all born in the last, say... 100 years, but there's a legacy handed through the DNA of experiences of a particular lineage of a bio-computer and yet, due to all sorts of technologies employed consciously (by direct interaction) by some "spirit beings" or imposed (in all sorts of ways, energy weaponry on the list) upon some by other "spirit beings" to inhabit that vehicle for the purpose of changing or influencing an abandonment of what some see as a more "natural process" - what may be RHP reincarnation, etc.

I don't think the question should be, "How do you change the nature of man?" I think the question should be, "Should those of us who are able to recognize how we maliciously manipulate others stop doing so?" Because if we answered, "Yes," to this question and then followed through with this action, man would change because of his nature.

So it seems to me the ball is in the court of the families who have controlled the truth of our history such that no one (outside of a few) has any real clue how we got here and why, regardless of whose "fault it is" because if man has his share of responsibility for being in this position (which I 100% believe is the case) then it would help for man to know this.

And so a possible, real solution is what I would call an 11/9. A sort of "reverse new Pearl Harbor" where a massive and total disclosure from those in the know to the rest of us here via a website available to all that breaks down all that is known by the Illuminati families of our actual history... all that has been done to "manage" the non-insiders. And then I would apologize for the actions of some of our ancestors.

I am an odds maker by trade and I make odds high that I am in one of those fringe bloodlines (probably produced through some illegitimate births in the past) and I say this because of the massive evidence of generational "SRA" (which is a name I actually do not like for what I am attempting to point out but that reason is for a separate discussion). My point is, I can speak of this "family illness" from experience. An illness for me because I am not 100% thus had manifested what was called bi-polar behavior. Well, when I woke up to it and made a choice, oddly, for me, the darkness and horror has melted away. Sadly this darkness reactionarily seeks to enter those close to ones who have broken through (but that also is another matter for a separate discussion). So if I can do it, so can anyone. Trust me... you couldn't be any lower. And for this reason, I want to bet on Van Duyn because (and I could still be a stupid "human" fool) I would rather bet on someone who I feel wants to help move things in a positive direction than not... but that's just me.

So now what do you want? The illuminati still holds cards. This latest coming forth regarding Bilderberg by William Cornelis Van Duyn (as well as his role revelation) is (for me) excellent though I am not so sure "blessing Hillary" as the next director of the US corporation (which is what many folks believe occurred at the most recent Bilderberg) is all that wonderful. Apologies I strayed...

I did note somehow a culling of over 50% of the families from the official Illuminati and I also noted lots of attention paid to the strange, "accidental" death of David Rockefeller's son, Richard (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/14/nyregion/richard-rockefeller-killed-in-new-york-plane-crash.html?_r=0), on William's Facebook page as if there was a message being delivered (or... as my wife says, "you watch too many movies").

Anyways, all I can do is "be the change" with regards to my family and loved ones (and thus stop passing through the family illness) and make an occasional post on the Avalon Forum. If there's more I could do... let me know. If the suggestion feels right, I am on it.

Chester

17th June 2014, 21:48

and this excerpt from Ben Fulford's newsletter -

"Which brings us to note it is unlikely to be a coincidence that on Friday the 13th, on the day of a full moon closest to the Summer Solstice, a day of extreme occult symbolism, Richard Rockefeller, son of David Rockefeller, died in a plane crash.

This is what MI5 had to say about this crash: “the Piper crashed about 10 minutes after take-off which means that it could have reached pressurization altitude. Any problem with this process may have caused the pilot oxygen starvation. Alongside fuel cut-off and explosion, this is a trusted method of aviation sabotage.”

The WDS was not involved in this incident in any way and extends its condolences to David Rockefeller and his family.

However, a CIA source, for his part, says that all senior cabal members are targets."

Houman

18th June 2014, 00:36

Healing homes
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Houman

19th June 2014, 06:59

The process of healing
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Chester

19th June 2014, 17:05

Apologies to cross post... perhaps I should have made this response (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72145-Project-Avalonians-you-should-be-proud-of-this--MSM-is-in-its-Death-Throes-recent-polls-show--&p=845347#post845347) here in this thread -

Houman

20th June 2014, 06:23

Trauma and recovery
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donk

20th June 2014, 14:40

Yikes, just watched this:

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Houman

20th June 2014, 17:47

From William Cornelis Van Duyn
https://www.facebook.com/notes/william-cornelis-van-duyn/the-lips-of-wisdom-are-closed-except-to-the-ears-of-understanding/1432052493737244

"
The lips of wisdom are closed, except to the ears of Understanding
June 20, 2014 at 9:52am

Where fall the footsteps of the Master, the ears of those ready for his Teaching open wide

From old Egypt have come the fundamental esoteric and occult teachings which have so strongly influenced the philosophies of all races, nations and peoples, for several thousand years. Egypt, the home of the Pyramids and the Sphinx, was the birthplace of the Hidden Wisdom and Mystic Teachings. From her Secret Doctrine all nations have borrowed. India, Persia, Chaldea, Medea, China, Japan, Assyria, ancient Greece and Rome, and other ancient countries partook liberally at the feast of knowledge which the Hierophants and Masters of the Land of Isis so freely provided for those who came prepared to partake of the great store of Mystic and Occult Lore which the masterminds of that ancient land had gathered together.

In ancient Egypt dwelt the great Adepts and Masters who have never been surpassed, and who seldom have been equaled, during the centuries that have taken their processional flight since the days of the Great Hermes. In Egypt was located the Great Lodge of Lodges of the Mystics. At the doors of her Temples entered the Neophytes who afterward, as Hierophants, Adepts, and Masters, traveled to the four corners of the earth, carrying with them the precious knowledge which they were ready, anxious, and willing to pass on to those who were ready to receive the same. All students of the Occult recognize the debt that they owe to these venerable Masters of that ancient land.

But among these great Masters of Ancient Egypt there once dwelt one of whom Masters hailed as "The Master of Masters." This man, if "man" indeed he was, dwelt in Egypt in the earliest days. He was known as Hermes Trismegistus. He was the father of the Occult Wisdom; the founder of Astrology; the discoverer of Alchemy. The details of his life story are lost to history, owing to the lapse of the years, though several of the ancient countries disputed with each other in their claims to the honor of having furnished his birthplace--and this thousands of years ago. The date of his sojourn in Egypt, in that his last incarnation on this planet, is not now known, but it has been fixed at the early days of the oldest dynasties of Egypt--long before the days of Moses. The best authorities regard him as a contemporary of Abraham, and some of the Jewish traditions go so far as to claim that Abraham acquired a portion of his mystic knowledge from Hermes himself.

As the years rolled by after his passing from this plane of life (tradition recording that he lived three hundred years in the flesh), the Egyptians deified Hermes, and made him one of their gods, under the name of Thoth. Years after, the people of Ancient Greece also made him one of their many gods--calling him "Hermes, the god of Wisdom."

The Egyptians revered his memory for many centuries-yes, tens of centuries-- calling him "the Scribe of the Gods," and bestowing upon him, distinctively, his ancient title, "Trismegistus," which means "the thrice-great"; "the great-great"; "the greatest-great"; etc. In all the ancient lands, the name of Hermes Trismegistus was revered, the name being synonymous with the "Fount of Wisdom."

Even to this day, we use the term "hermetic" in the sense of "secret"; "sealed so that nothing can escape"; etc., and this by reason of the fact that the followers of Hermes always observed the principle of secrecy in their teachings. They did not believe in "casting pearls before swine," but rather held to the teaching "milk for babes"; "meat for strong men," both of which maxims are familiar to readers of the Christian scriptures, but both of which had been used by the Egyptians for centuries before the Christian era.

And this policy of careful dissemination of the truth has always characterized the Hermetics, even unto the present day. The Hermetic Teachings are to be found in all lands, among all religions, but never identified with any particular country, nor with any particular religious sect. This because of the warning of the ancient teachers against allowing the Secret Doctrine to become crystallized into a creed. The wisdom of this caution is apparent to all students of history. The ancient occultism of India and Persia degenerated, and was largely lost, owing to the fact that the teachers became priests, and so mixed theology with the philosophy, the result being that the occultism of India and Persia has been gradually lost amidst the mass of religious superstition, cults, creeds and "gods." So it was with Ancient Greece and Rome. So it was with the Hermetic Teachings of the Gnostics and Early Christians, which were lost at the time of Constantine, whose iron hand smothered philosophy with the blanket of theology, losing to the Christian Church that which was its very essence and spirit, and causing it to grope throughout several centuries before it found the way back to its ancient faith, the indications apparent to all careful observers in this Twentieth Century being that the Church is now struggling to get back to its ancient mystic teachings.

But there were always a few faithful souls who kept alive the Flame, tending it carefully, and not allowing its light to become extinguished. And thanks to these staunch hearts, and fearless minds, we have the truth still with us. But it is not found in books, to any great extent. It has been passed along from Master to Student; from Initiate to Hierophant; from lip to ear. When it was written down at all, its meaning was veiled in terms of alchemy and astrology so that only those possessing the key could read it aright. This was made necessary in order to avoid the persecutions of the theologians of the Middle Ages, who fought the Secret Doctrine with fire and sword; stake, gibbet and cross. Even to this day there will be found but few reliable books on the Hermetic Philosophy, although there are countless references to it in many books written on various phases of Occultism. And yet, the Hermetic Philosophy is the only Master Key which will open all the doors of the Occult Teachings!

In the early days, there was a compilation of certain Basic Hermetic Doctrines, passed on from teacher to student, which was known as "THE KYBALION," the exact significance and meaning of the term having been lost for several centuries. This teaching, however, is known to many to whom it has descended, from mouth to ear, on and on throughout the centuries. Its precepts have never been written down, or printed, so far as we know. It was merely a collection of maxims, axioms, and precepts, which were non-understandable to outsiders, but which were readily understood by students, after the axioms, maxims, and precepts had been explained and exemplified by the Hermetic Initiates to their Neophytes. These teachings really constituted the basic principles of "The Art of Hermetic Alchemy," which, contrary to the general belief, dealt in the mastery of Mental Forces, rather than Material Elements-the Transmutation of one kind of Mental Vibrations into others, instead of the changing of one kind of metal into another. The legends of the "Philosopher's Stone" which would turn base metal into Gold, was an allegory relating to Hermetic Philosophy, readily understood by all students of true Hermeticism.

In this little book, of which this is the First Lesson, we invite our students to examine into the Hermetic Teachings, as set forth in THE KYBALION, and as explained by ourselves, humble students of the Teachings, who, while bearing the title of Initiates, are still students at the feet of HERMES, the Master. We herein give you many of the maxims, axioms and precepts of THE KYBALION, accompanied by explanations and illustrations which we deem likely to render the teachings more easily comprehended by the modern student, particularly as the original text is purposely veiled in obscure terms.

The original maxims, axioms, and precepts of THE KYBALION are printed herein, in italics, the proper credit being given. Our own work is printed in the regular way, in the body of the work. We trust that the many students to whom we now offer this little work will derive as much benefit from the study of its pages as have the many who have gone on before, treading the same Path to Mastery throughout the centuries that have passed since the times of HERMES TRISMEGISTUS--the Master of Masters--the Great-Great. In the words of "THE KYBALION":

"

"When the ears of the student are ready to hear, then cometh the lips to fill them with Wisdom."

So that according to the Teachings, the passage of this book to those ready for the instruction will attract the attention of such as are prepared to receive the Teaching. And, likewise, when the pupil is ready to receive the truth, then will this little book come to him, or her. Such is The Law. The Hermetic Principle of Cause and Effect, in its aspect of The Law of Attraction, will bring lips and ear together--pupil and book in company. So mote it be!
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Houman

20th June 2014, 18:30

The reality of spirituality
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Flash

21st June 2014, 00:44

Here is the pdf version of the book The Kybalion

http://www.hermetics.org/pdf/kybalion.pdf

My problem comes from whom has published it: THE YOGI PUBLICATION SOCIETY
MASONIC TEMPLE
CHICAGO, ILL

not from the book itself, which however made me think that the content maybe left hand path. in fact, my real question is "is the kybalion and mostly Hermes guideship from the called left hand path or the right hand path?".

I thought for a while that Hermes seems to be quite thorough in terms of spiritual evolution, a bit similar to Pythagoreans teachings. Am it wrong? Where they from different sources and paths?

Limor Wolf

21st June 2014, 15:04

With the latest intiative of the new found openess, the extention of a hand, the sharing, the public transparency (Bilderberg meeting Copenhagen 2014), Van Duyn, Fritz Springmeier, Facebook..

This is a post I made a few months ago on the 'Crimea.. Putin, and World War III' thread, following a discussion that mostly saw the moves that Putin has taken as such that opposes the new global order aspirations, it may not bare any resemblance to the situation of 'rapprochement' happening here (no doubt an outcome of recivieng instructions out of a very calculated process), but the illusion is apparently the same illusion. Please feel free to translate it from one situation to another

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69621-Ukraine-Crimea-Syria-Israel-Iran-Putin-and-World-War-III&p=816586&viewfull=1#post816586

"I watched this video Kerry Cassidy posted yesterday and wrote down my thoughts. I have every reason to believe that these are more than just my own direct thoughts. Saying that, I will post it here.

Putin's current role is to create identification of the population with one leader and by that to deepen the polarity as well as to keep us in the never ending loop of a ping pong game that is known to be played by (and with) our 'leaders'. They use Putin to express what's going on and put it on the surface for the sake of their future moves and future spins. the illusions of sides is always working well and is a known trap that was made to answer our secret wishes that there is someone there in a position to make an impact who is caring for us. From one testimony young Putin was being trained by CIA, who knows, for what it matters, he is not a white dove carrying an olive branch in his mouth. These political actors, knowingly or not, are programmed to give their replicas, to take a stand which is all part of the intricacy of the Matrix we live in. his expression of support in the UN is the same old game play as was orchastrated with the public in the times of Obama's first elections. We need to spot that and disattach our energy from their energy ciruitory, since more than anything it is a frequency battle. It will all be rising to the surface in the near future to allow us to see where we live in, what is the nature of this reality and the deception involved in most of the aspects of our lives, from the tiniest to the grandest so we can get outside of our limited situation to the broader perspective where we have the potential to be equal participants. The reason they are pushing people's buttons is because it is so easy to be pushed. this is our (collective) program to be released from.

We must remember that these energies who are pulling the strings are not only a masters in technology, but masters in human psychology, in manipulations of perceptions and behaviour. Very few at this time can understand this to the core.

With regards to the NWO plans for WWIII that about to tie the global reality into one bundle, Russia is putting a facade that - 'we don't want to participate and be armed with destructive weapon, but as others do then we also must..' This is done again for the sake of further conditioning of the public opinion towards WWIII as simply being 'inevitable'. They are using some psychological means on the mainstream public as much as on the alternative media which are all working too well. That is, unless we somehow manage to internalize and disattach.

Limor ~

Limor Wolf

22nd June 2014, 18:22

Limor Wolf

22nd June 2014, 18:54

Courtesy of Jean Luc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VumaWumENEk

Chester

26th June 2014, 02:48

Flash

26th June 2014, 03:44

gripreaper

26th June 2014, 03:52

There are mankind, who do not and never knew enlightenment
And there are celectial beings, these is who most of us are, and they desire this knowledge for themselves

Programmed by deception - Solaris BlueRaven

"There are these other races of which were quite hostile and power hungry. They were seekers of power yet not the linage to inherit the source by any creator or universe. Some call these races reptiles. I can tell you they are the race of man. The race of man was never fallen. It was simply stated never ascended. You see in this day where DNA activation is clear who is ascending onto a higher level and who and what is not. If you look closely you will notice that churches, religions, governments and those who work in shadow areas are not capable of ascension and are stopping at nothing to attempt to deter the evolution of the star linage on this planet.

You might ask yourselves how on earth it came to this. Why did we not see it?.. it is what it is, a fabric of lies constructed by entities completely out of touch with the universe

Mankind was never fallen. Mankind was never ascended. He did not do something to obtain his personal extinction. He merely acted out on personal will and imposed his personal will on every life form he came into contact with. Right now down to a dictatorship no celectial race would tolerate. He murdered anyone with a star people lineage and is now at the mercy of his own madness. He has deceived pure hearts with a church which is nothing more than a reflection of a false god and agenda called a coroperation.

There have been a rash of genetic experementation which has become a grotesque abuse of power. There have been those in the illusion of power on a global scale targeting anyone who exudes free will and confidence. The witch hunt have began on the hands of those who have proclaimed themselves corporate gods.

I laugh at those with the high tech telescopes in search of something they will never have communication with. Those of us who are of the star people do not need a telescope. We are the scope and lens and our bodies are the hosts of those grand designs.

As easy as it is to get sucked into their drama and illusion do not give them any power. They are frauds and charlatans in the industry or corporate corruption. They will fade like the water in the desert. Their imprints will be absorbed into the abyss and their children will become extinct. Simply put their seeds are universally snuffed out.

This may sound harsh, yet the universe does not take to bullies and neither do I. I know what is out there. They do not. I know how the inteligent universe functions and the species associated. They do not. I know what is acceptable by universal law. They have violated this law which makes them rogue outcasts.

These rogue entities prey on the compassion of those of us who are empathic to life. Yet they have taken advantage of this and have used an oppressive trait of guilt to sway those into surrendering to their wrong doings. Not anymore.

The harm done to the animals alone on this world is warrant enough to authorise an extinction of those who are mankind inside the vehicles.

The masses are programmed since birth. They are programmed to believe in a reality which is not valid in any dimension or universe. Be lucid and aware that you have control on this timeline and in every state of consciousness you participate with. Do not believe in any form of lies which are constructed as they are conjured by deceivers.

Do not give them control or power. Do not shower them with love or offer to assist them as I can guarantee it will be a trap. Do not remorse for something you are not responsible for. At least many like myself can leave this blue world knowing we did not continue the cycle. We did something to awaken the masses and put an end to the illusions in honor of our universal home and this blue sentient world."

They don’t own the earth. They don’t own you and me. They don’t own all their stupid secret symbols. They don’t own the present, they don’t own the future. They don’t even own themselves. They’re usurpers, in every sense of the word. And absolutely nothing to fear. That these invading power freaks striving to control the world should try to lay claim to some secret knowledge and power source that’s superior to everything else is a fraud. That they so feverishly endeavor to bring on world changing events that result in national clampdowns and population reduction is their personal nightmare in the making. And we need to see it for what it is. A spiritual charade. While we have to deal with their very real machinations they’ve unleashed in their attempt to destroy the earth and most of its inhabitants for whatever sick reason they’ve conjured, they have no truly superior super powers to fear. Just an ugly willingness to tap in to sorcery tools that make them lords over their own ugly fabrications. The nightmare is theirs, not ours. We just have to deal with the fallout from their insanity. But we can do so consciously and with great peace of mind and heart in spite of all of their efforts to induce fear. The fact is, there is no secret but that which is willfully withheld or deliberately ignored. And to the conscious, nothing is hidden that cannot be revealed. The fact that they have to hide it rather than conscientiously share whatever they claim to know is evidence in itself as to their dark nature and self-serving intentions. You’d think humanity would see the continued suppression of empowering and healing knowledge and information and start to catch on, but alas, the conditioning has been very effective. But not for much longer. Their matrix of power is unraveling as we speak. Don’t let the sabre rattling and scare tactics fool you. Their days are almost over.

Limor Wolf

26th June 2014, 08:02

They don’t own the earth. They don’t own you and me. They don’t own all their stupid secret symbols. They don’t own the present, they don’t own the future. They don’t even own themselves. They’re usurpers, in every sense of the word. And absolutely nothing to fear. That these invading power freaks striving to control the world should try to lay claim to some secret knowledge and power source that’s superior to everything else is a fraud. That they so feverishly endeavor to bring on world changing events that result in national clampdowns and population reduction is their personal nightmare in the making. And we need to see it for what it is. A spiritual charade. While we have to deal with their very real machinations they’ve unleashed in their attempt to destroy the earth and most of its inhabitants for whatever sick reason they’ve conjured, they have no truly superior super powers to fear. Just an ugly willingness to tap in to sorcery tools that make them lords over their own ugly fabrications. The nightmare is theirs, not ours. We just have to deal with the fallout from their insanity. But we can do so consciously and with great peace of mind and heart in spite of all of their efforts to induce fear. The fact is, there is no secret but that which is willfully withheld or deliberately ignored. And to the conscious, nothing is hidden that cannot be revealed. The fact that they have to hide it rather than conscientiously share whatever they claim to know is evidence in itself as to their dark nature and self-serving intentions. You’d think humanity would see the continued suppression of empowering and healing knowledge and information and start to catch on, but alas, the conditioning has been very effective. But not for much longer. Their matrix of power is unraveling as we speak. Don’t let the sabre rattling and scare tactics fool you. Their days are almost over.

This restored response may fit here, I posted it a year and a half ago at the - 'Artificial Intelligence and the Invisible Plague' thread and it may parallel with gripreapers words above, then back to Houman's dictation of this thread's tempo and content : )

"We are dealing with disruptive technology and this technology is directed against us as collective and as individuals. I doubt if it is anything new, I know it is not. It is simply that now they have the need to step up their game and get the devils out of the closet so to speak. I woke up this morning with real grasp of what we can do, and that we have the ability to create inspite of this Electromagnetic waves that are directed against us, and the confusing thoughts that are implanted in us as if it is ours and the feelings that accompany this pretty dark agenda.

This is not a version of 'The Secret', nothing superficial in it's concept, we might be required to do a tough job in this 3D world and planet, some high waves arise across to stop our movement towards the desirable direction, We are manifestors, however, we have great ability to manifest due to the vast collection of emotions that we own which adds to the collective's toolbox. An inability of the other 'party' to feel emotions makes them battle us and want to diminish our abilities, put us to their own use and service instead of to join forces. we could learn quite a lot from their extremely brilliant thinking abilities, they have things they can learn from us, It could have been a great learning curve, instead it is a farce of some unknown creator that created all those diversified worlds and put them together to manage with one another : ) a bit untasteful joke. There is no doubt we are equals to them and not inferior. For now, they are feeding themselvs from us, we are their food source, and to tell the truth no one wants to starve to death when their food gather itself and aim to move to another role.

I do feel that we can get into their heads as much as they get into ours, but with a different approach, without any attempt to control or manipulate or return the battle in any way. In fact solely for the purpose of study and research and to be able to put our own limits and be assertive on what we are willing or not willing to do. At the same time we might like to formulate the vision as well as some tangible understanding of how we would like to see this world evolutionize, in fact, this actually might be their hidden role, to help us to do just that. unbeknowest to them or to us. this might be the wierd way of the evolution of worlds in the cosmos.
All copywrites reserved to the creator, acssess to the complaints box only at the end of this game.

This thread is important since it allows us to map and study their brain, see where their plans are going and internally not agree with it. Our brains have the chance now to develop much further because of the great resistance. Strong muscles are acquired by practice, it is called endurance training. the technology is not (yet) the problem only the operators and manifestors behind it. This is what they see with their minds eye, the question is what DO WE see? what are our own desires and where would we like set our limits.

Once upon a time we knew how to draw, We forgot how to use this ability and some attempts are made to prevent us from taking a color, a brush and a painting page in our hands, everything is done so we will not have the desire or strength or enough energy to reach all those and excersice and excersice, and eventually lead the way. problems are mounted on our door step. But we are creators. A creation must come from a gut wish, from deep inside the intestines, from knowing wrong from right from keeping the eyes on the road, creative worlds can not be controlled."

Cheers,

Limor

Chester

26th June 2014, 15:40

In reference to post #3033 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=845801&viewfull=1#post845801) above, I am wondering how some of the participants of this thread may respond to the following questions.

Is the Kybalion "good" or "evil" or something else?

Is Hermetic philosophy "good" or "evil" or something else?

Because William Cornelis Van Duyn (the current "Head of the Illuminati) seems to appreciate the Kybalion (and thus it should be concluded he has gained from by his actions on Facebook is promoting the principles of the Hermetic philosphy) does this make him "good" or "evil" or something else?

Based on the responses I hope to obtain, I have more questions. I hope folks will engage in this discussion.

It is very hard for me to believe Justone that Van Duyn is the current head of the Illuminatis and is a known figure. Illuminatis heads are not public Sam, their minions are, but not the heads.

So i would take what a self claimed false head has to say with a grain of salt. I would take anything the illuminatis have to say with a grain a salt, knowing that lies are prévalent at all levels.

In other words, i do not see this avenue as a good potential to seek answers to your questions

I have some very good points to make but if you are unwilling to indulge my request, then perhaps an opportunity will be missed. Regardless of whether you or I or anyone else "believes" he is the Head of the Illuminati has zero to do with the questions. In fact, if I would be indulged a bit here, this might be further revealed.

I have found that closed mindedness assists the controllers in retaining their control. It supports their view of "the swine." Sadly, I must open my mind to the possibility that some of their views are valid. I am making efforts to rise above this paradigm and have a way of so doing, yet it requires open mindedness. If I were indulged in my questions, you would be very surprised where this would lead. I also thought I had your trust and this response does not emulate that trust.

Chester

27th June 2014, 04:17

And just to add context, it is important that folks who might comment on my recent post of questions have followed the last 1/2 dozen pages of this thread. If they have done so, they will understand why I referred to William Cornelis Van Duyn as "the Head of the Illuminati" in quotes.

Just to make sure it is understood even more clearly we have all heard of all sorts of descriptions as to what the Illuminati is.

Many folks perceive the organization to be a phantom.

There was a claim by someone who went by the name Hidden Hand that the Illuminati "Head" is actually an off world born "soul group" that calls itself the Luciferic soul group and that it gives orders to the earth born 12 or 13 families (I don't recall which) as to what they are supposed to do.

If folks have been following what William has stated they will know that he claims there has been a purging of 7 of the 13 families from "the Illuminati." He also stated that it was his ancestors who made sure the Eye of Horus was on the US One Dollar Bill. We also know that he gave Fritz Springmeier the list of attendees to this year's Bilderberg meeting as well as scripts of words he spoke as the apparent individual in charge of running this meeting.

What does all this mean? I have a dozen or more questions about it myself.

But my question of the moment is - Will we get anywhere regarding the future of planet Earth and how that effects our children by remaining disengaged in dialogue?

Is it better to focus all our energies on bringing up something that actually isn’t relevant to the attempted dialogue that clearly is meant only to end the dialogue?

Are we going to get anywhere by derailing attempts at dialogue, by focusing on what can be disagreed with or what can be contended with or how evil "they" are and by constantly stating, “Look at all the evil "they” do to 'us'" etc etc. Don't we know enough about all this already?

I attempted to kick off some productive discussions. I have some good responses to provide regarding how things might go but can't do this without participation. I would hate to conclude what some within the so called "Illuminati" conclude... and that is that mankind as it is now on Earth is a lost cause. Let's don't keep returning the same finger pointing responses because where has this gotten us?

And do not make the mistake of concluding that I am blaming us non-illuminati or whatever word you might label us as to be the ones at fault here. At least at fault alone. I see our situation as all of our doing, the insiders as well as the periphery as well as the masses of humanity that have little or no clue what is and what has been going on.

So I ask another question which I must preface by regurgitating history.

2 1/2 years ago I found myself so lost that I wasn't even capable of killing myself. I was in a massive several month long deep depression. I was beyond despair because I was incapable of killing myself. I had been hearing voices from what told me it was "God" that I had to kill myself to save the world and I couldn't do it. How pathetic I felt.

It was this thread that gave me hope that what I had been experiencing was not delusions, was not "God" and that there was an explanation behind it all. That gave me enough hope to seek solutions. Some of you folks that followed some of my posts know what I went through. I am still in process of change, but I can say this about myself today... I don't hear those voices anymore. I am not controlled by my dreams. I do not live in any fear at all whatsoever. The only thing that holds me back from being even more open (and brutally, in your face honest) is that I don't want to push others away who may otherwise benefit from a more humble approach.

I have done the work. No, its not over, but I do not suffer energetic attacks nor does anyone try and silence me or kill me. For example, anyone here know about Sam Jenkins? Bases 26... look it up. Sam Jenkins believes he is an ongoing victim of directed energy weaponry. I believe he has reason to believe this. I felt that if I was able to overcome all the demonic, energetic weaponry attacks that I could perhaps help the guy. I contacted Sam. I Skyped with Sam for 1.5 hours. I was unable to help him. But I tried... I did my best. I offered to share with him my experience and how I overcame these same issues.

Why are they not attacking me anymore? Is it because of the person I have become? Is it because of the work I have done? Is some incredibly benevolent and all powerful group of beings protecting me? I have no clue... but I am no longer under any noticeable attack. Perhaps in a few days I may state otherwise after making this post... but I make odds very low on that one.

I speak out about Satanic Ritual Abuse and about the "purported" (I must use that word because I have never seen nor experienced this) Animal and Human Ritual Sacrifice. I speak about this because it seems to me that this activity, if it actually occurs as many, many witnesses and experiencers have stated and if it is actually performed by some within the very well known segments of the elite (who may also view themselves as Illuminati) then I would like William Cornelis Van Duyn to address this issue.

Anyone who understands the effects of magic, the effects of ritualized magical ceremonies which produce such energies as the ones that come forth from murdering a live being in such a horrific fashion has to understand how critical it is this specific practice be addressed, explained, justified. Do I think it can be, frankly no... but unless it is at least admitted to - that we are told by someone informed like William Cornelis (is this perhaps why 7 of the 13 families were kicked out??)... that this practice actually occurs (and I make odds high it does), then how the heck are the rest of us non participants supposed to believe the “Illuminati” is turning over a new leaf? And this is just one issue amongst dozens but to me, this is the big one because it is the most outrageous and can be no less a massive illness of the mind, the emotions, the body and most importantly of all, the spirit. And just like in a home with a sick, practicing alcoholic... the entire family becomes ill. As our whole planet is ill. Simple to see.

If this practice is being conducted by our rulers, and the ending of this practice is not the number one item on the agenda of change, then nothing else will matter (all and only my opinion). Nothing else will change (again, just my opinion) as it cannot be afforded by those who are addicted to this practice for the human race to wake up and throw off the shackles of mind controlled enslavement.

So my questions that have so far been deflected or ignored a few posts above were meant to lead to the bigger questions... Is it the belief systems of a group of folks who also happened to gain a great deal of temporal power that we see as playing a foundational role to their actions? Or could those systems simply be deflections from what is really going on?

Why else is our planet so screwed up?

Besides the SRA and SRH&AS what else is really going on? Could it be all and only greed? Sometimes it seems it is just that. A small group of folks wanting to hang on to what they have. First and foremost is the known pleasures derived from "owner mentality" power over others. And then we have the incredibly luxurious wealth and the ability to go anywhere in the world and live in utter opulence while 1/3rd the world worries how it will eat that day. You have to be kidding me if you tell me this can’t be fixed. Those who could don’t which tells me they won’t. I looked at the 100 most wealthy folks in the world. If they donated 10% of their wealth to a fund, that fund could generate enough interest to maintain its principle versus inflation and from the interest alone, the entire world could be comfortably fed. Or would this then create a collapse of the fiat money system of most of the world of today? I wonder.

But then, if we know anything about metaphysics, we know it takes a group of willing slaves for there to be slave owners. At least that is my firm opinion. In fact, my own current state of relative sovereignty only came about by my action of taking full, 100% responsibility for everything in my life. I now live a wonderful life - as far as my own limited experience goes... a magical, wonderful life with a single exception. I suffer from caring and so I open my eyes to the world and to what is going on and thus I act in ways I believe can generate positive changes.

That is what my posts intend.

Anyways, is it possible we might have a dialogue here such that we might be able to bring by consensus some legitimate responses to William Cornelis Van Duyn? I want to give him a chance, but who the heck am I? Nobody. But who are we? At least here on Avalon? We are a pretty amazing group of folks who form a decent collective... and a collective (at least on this thread as stated by Houman) is being read by some in this Illuminati. Do we let our egos divide us? Or can we somehow generate some real consensus generated dialogue back to this man and the group he claims to lead?

Chester

1st July 2014, 19:08

I guess that you can look at it from the point of view of Game Theory with more than 2 players in the game. If a "house divided against itself cannot stand", perhaps the same principle applies to "humanity" involved in a game with negatively oriented non-human entities. So from the point of view of Game Theory it is in the interest of all human parties to reach some level of win-win cooperation rather than a lose-lose mutual destruction.

Now this being said, Monsanto is still around, babies are still being injected with neurotoxins, we are all breathing and drinking aluminum and fluoride, SRA are still going on, the focus of the mainstream media remains on debasement and perversion rather than elevation, children are still dying or becoming orphans through engineered wars, the technology that could liberate humankind from serfdom is still kept under seal...

Therefore "only by their actions we will know them": if the people who are in contact with FS are really at the top of the pyramid, if they have the power that goes with it, and if they have the degree of benevolence of a Cyrus (who btw was not a pagan king, quite the opposite, but this is another story) then we will see it through their actions and not their words (it is simple logic).

Houman

Why... when we may have an opportunity for some direct dialogue (paraphrased from a previous Houman reply - "Yes, they are reading this thread") are we not doing so?

As one of the "non-elite" I would say that Houman's list above contains valid, measurable goals "we" need to see addressed but surely this is not all. At the same time, I would assume the PTBs also have their own list which they validate from their point of view.

My guesses are that most members who have participated in this thread do not believe "the controllers" (as Bill has called them) have any desire (much less ability) to make any changes "we-'non-elite'" could be satisfied with. Maybe the odds are almost zero but there is no way I will make the assumption it is zero.

Why could we not make up a list of step by step, measurable achievements "we" require and give "them" the chance to make their own list too? Then both the controllers and the controlled could take steps together to achieve the goal of changing the format of planet Earth from a controller/slave paradigm to something we all could agree is more palatable?

Chester

2nd July 2014, 00:17

from Fritz's Blog
(http://pentracks.com/blog/category/hope/)

Fritz,
This is a first step in my life. I know that my decision is right to send you my speech. I have this urge to open the whole system, and to show the openness. It will take some years to make the population understand…
It is a premiere for you too. I wish you good luck and strength. You’re a man of courage.
W.

Chester

5th July 2014, 17:48

If I were one of the elite, like William Cornelis Van Duyn, I may perhaps consider saying this.

Our (the Illuminati families) ancestors held knowledge we have not shared with the masses of humanity freely and openly. Perhaps part of that reason was there was no easy way so to do. Some within our families felt this information was sacred and that it might be dangerous to make it available to all. Yes, some who held power also intentionally kept this knowledge private so they could maintain their control over the masses. But we now have the internet. Also, some of us (myself included) are interested in sharing this information with the entire public. This is why I shared my appreciation for the Kybalion and why I am promoting the Hermetic Principles.

I believe if we in the Illuminati have expectations of the masses of humanity then it is only fair we share with humanity all we know. This should also include revealing what we know (and have held private) of the history of Earth. In fact, all occulted knowledge/information should be made available to each and every one. In addition, any disinformation (if known to be) should be eliminated from this information release and we should all vow to avoid dissemination of any known disinformation.

We, the Illuminati, also understand that the masses of humanity have realistic expectations of us (as they should) and we are open to discussing each and every measure that can be taken. But this can only be done if first, everyone admits we are all in a mess and we all (or at least all our ancestors) hold some responsibility for us finding ourselves in this collectively generated mess.

For simplicity sake, we could categorize humanity into three parts. The Illuminati (our families and those who consciously choose to participate cooperatively within our network), the awakened who are not a part of our families or network and the rest of humanity that has yet to awaken to what has been going on for thousands of years - the management of Earth via our Illuminati families.

We believe that for a successful, peaceful transition away from occulted Illuminati rule to occur, the world must be provided the truth of Earth's history (and any known history beyond just Earth and beyond just Human) and be offered the opportunity to understand our philosophies. In addition we, the Illuminati, believe that to accomplish this goal, we need the help of the awakened. This is, perhaps, a big step for the awakened to take. It calls first for understanding. Then, it calls for the awakened to find representatives who, along with our representatives would create realistically achievable goals and a measurable road map to achieving these goals. And finally it calls for trust. Through this process, the truth of our history and the truth of the philosophies of those who have ruled humanity can be provided to all such that all (depending on their individual capacity and inclination) can become part of the awakened. The idea is that eventually we have one "class" (if you will) where all have true, equal opportunity to contribute or not as to where we go as a collective from here.

There is no way a five or six paragraph statement can cover all matters of relevancy but we have to start somewhere.

Houman

6th July 2014, 03:15

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/06/19/illuminati-human-sacrifice-denver-friday-june-20-21-8pm/

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There is not sufficient information to determine with certainty whether William Cornelis Van Duyn is (or not) who he says he is...
but, in the end, it is not that important...

What really matters is what people think, their intent/desire and the focus of their thought... any change/action stems out of the combination of a thought and an intent hence the effort to control both to maintain status-quo...

Leaders (hidden or not) stem from the population... once enough people change themselves, their hearth and focus their thought and desire on a new paradigm, it will happen...

Houman

6th July 2014, 03:25

Tom Campbell on the nature of fear

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Chester

6th July 2014, 14:47

What really matters is what people think, their intent/desire and the focus of their thought... any change/action stems out of the combination of a thought and an intent hence the effort to control both to maintain status-quo...

Leaders (hidden or not) stem from the population... once enough people change themselves, their heart and focus their thought and desire on a new paradigm, it will happen...

Good. If I am reading this correctly, it appears you are pointing out how critical it is that each and every one of us first take personal responsibility.

So if we be an individual who complains about the world as it is but this individual's heart remains essentially the same - as one's experience (which expands to the world) reflects back to each and all of us today, then we should not expect any new, positive paradigm change any time soon.

Maybe if the few who are truly awakened and who truly, day in and day out, bring forth this new paradigm in their words and actions because it is genuinely generated from their heart and thus emanates from their thoughts... if these truly awakened continue consistently to be this change then perhaps more and more of the dead asleep will begin to open their mind about these agendas. Most folks, when they see something they like, want some too.

And maybe if more and more of the dead asleep begin to wake up then perhaps the above noted Rockefeller scenario will fall apart.

So your call, Houman, is to the individual. Bill constantly reminds us of the same from Ghandi - "Be the change..."

It is very disheartening the complete lack of dialogue (other than complaining about "the evil them") here on Avalon regarding what (to me) actually matters most - our own individual, personal responsibility. What is at stake? The future of us all which includes the surface dweller non-insiders like my family, most of my friends, most of my neighbors and most of the rest of the planet and all our descendents. Oh... and put me on that list too (but last).

Chester

7th July 2014, 02:54

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Uncanny - the "boss guy" in the video looks just like William Cornelis.

Houman

7th July 2014, 19:55

Uncanny - the "boss guy" in the video looks just like William Cornelis.

Yes, he does...

Houman

8th July 2014, 06:44

NYPD Sergeant and noted demonologist Ralph Sarchie
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spiritwind

8th July 2014, 16:53

TheVoyager

9th July 2014, 07:48

NYPD Sergeant and noted demonologist Ralph Sarchie
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I actually didn’t watch this to the end. Almost 4 years ago I actually had the audacity to say yes to a young man who had been dabbling in the dark side. He asked me for help and I thought he was sincere. I knew I didn’t have the background by myself, so I enlisted 4 other women to assist. He had not told me everything about his involvement and I clearly overstepped my abilities (and so did everyone else). There were repercussions and I will not do this again. I will say it was a learning experience of the high strangeness kind.

It looks to me this guy Sarchie is playing with fire. From what he says in the video footage he doesn't show enough knowledge to be safely dealing with these issues and is exposing himself to it. He who enters the game of another is subject to the rules and the laws of that game.
Up to date Holographic Kinetics still may be the safest, the most efficient and the fastest way to deal with this kind of issues.

Chester

17th July 2014, 13:16

It looks to me this guy Sarchie is playing with fire. From what he says in the video footage he doesn't show enough knowledge to be safely dealing with these issues and is exposing himself to it. He who enters the game of another is subject to the rules and the laws of that game.
Up to date Holographic Kinetics still may be the safest, the most efficient and the fastest way to deal with this kind of issues.

Everyone starts somewhere. If he is (as I suspect we all are) perfect creatures of creation, immortal and eternal, then does he (or anyone else for that matter) have any true, lasting problems?

All I am saying is that I went through my own battles with "the dark side energetics" and discovered how to move past the paradigm where these "dark energetics" effect me (me in this case includes my loved ones). I made my mistakes along the way. Maybe he has to do the same.

The paradigm can truly become a "thing" of one's past if one is truly willing to do the work to make it so.

TheVoyager

17th July 2014, 17:00

Chester

18th July 2014, 01:36

Justone, my comment was meant as an observation, not as a cryticism.

It looks to me this guy Sarchie is playing with fire. From what he says in the video footage he doesn't show enough knowledge to be safely dealing with these issues and is exposing himself to it. He who enters the game of another is subject to the rules and the laws of that game.
Up to date Holographic Kinetics still may be the safest, the most efficient and the fastest way to deal with this kind of issues.

Everyone starts somewhere. If he is (as I suspect we all are) perfect creatures of creation, immortal and eternal, then does he (or anyone else for that matter) have any true, lasting problems?

All I am saying is that I went through my own battles with "the dark side energetics" and discovered how to move past the paradigm where these "dark energetics" effect me (me in this case includes my loved ones). I made my mistakes along the way. Maybe he has to do the same.

The paradigm can truly become a "thing" of one's past if one is truly willing to do the work to make it so.

Your response suggests my comment was misinterpreted. I would be glad to elaborate on this with you here or via PM if you like. In fact, your comment stimulated mine. My response had no intention of implying I took your comment as criticism. This thread can and does bring out sensitivities.

So now my direct opinion - Sarchie is well intentioned. Yet I believe he uses tools to deal with demonics that I perceive are archaic and actually fan the flames of a dying paradigm - the supernatural, spiritual war. From my investigation of Steve Richard's methods, I agree 100% they are far superior as they deal with the "dark" thought forms directly and without the need for some "magical" techniques (with "magical" props) which derives their rights of power from some orthodoxy generated by men who sought to consolidate power (and cut out women in the process) just over 1600 years ago.

But is he in danger? My view is no. In fact, my view is no one is unless they buy into the possibility a prefect creature of creation ever could be in "danger." That idea is no longer part of my daily paradigm and that was what I was hoping to convey.

TheVoyager

18th July 2014, 07:01

Yes, everyone starts somewhere, I agree on that justone.
There is also a saying: The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
There are many well intentioned people out there, for instance just have a look at the energy healing area. But what do those people really do? What is really happening in energy sessions? Do those practitioners question themselves when they see, feel or observe something that their being, their essence, their Spirit is uncomfortable with?
Do they question themselves what is really happening when they go through initiations and open themselves to outside forces and give them a permission to access them (and manipulate them) for their agenda. Some do. Many don't.

Is he 'in danger'? My point of view is that very probably he is. He who enters the game of another is subject to the rules and the laws of that game. And therefore can be hit by what the other one carries in their tourus field.
You need to be in charge of the game in order to be able to make any changes, in order to change the rules, if so desired.
How do you stay in your game? How do you not enter the game of another? By having the knowledge, the understanding of how the games are being played.

Justone, my comment was meant as an observation, not as a cryticism.

It looks to me this guy Sarchie is playing with fire. From what he says in the video footage he doesn't show enough knowledge to be safely dealing with these issues and is exposing himself to it. He who enters the game of another is subject to the rules and the laws of that game.
Up to date Holographic Kinetics still may be the safest, the most efficient and the fastest way to deal with this kind of issues.

Everyone starts somewhere. If he is (as I suspect we all are) perfect creatures of creation, immortal and eternal, then does he (or anyone else for that matter) have any true, lasting problems?

All I am saying is that I went through my own battles with "the dark side energetics" and discovered how to move past the paradigm where these "dark energetics" effect me (me in this case includes my loved ones). I made my mistakes along the way. Maybe he has to do the same.

The paradigm can truly become a "thing" of one's past if one is truly willing to do the work to make it so.

Your response suggests my comment was misinterpreted. I would be glad to elaborate on this with you here or via PM if you like. In fact, your comment stimulated mine. My response had no intention of implying I took your comment as criticism. This thread can and does bring out sensitivities.

So now my direct opinion - Sarchie is well intentioned. Yet I believe he uses tools to deal with demonics that I perceive are archaic and actually fan the flames of a dying paradigm - the supernatural, spiritual war. From my investigation of Steve Richard's methods, I agree 100% they are far superior as they deal with the "dark" thought forms directly and without the need for some "magical" techniques (with "magical" props) which derives their rights of power from some orthodoxy generated by men who sought to consolidate power (and cut out women in the process) just over 1600 years ago.

But is he in danger? My view is no. In fact, my view is no one is unless they buy into the possibility a prefect creature of creation ever could be in "danger." That idea is no longer part of my daily paradigm and that was what I was hoping to convey.

Chester

18th July 2014, 23:44

Perhaps I find myself alone now.

I may be the only "human" on Earth at this time who is alive in his body and who experienced a total death of their soul without the body dying. Of course, what I just said probably sounds completely ridiculous to anyone who may read it, but this is the only words I can find to accurately describe what I experienced.

Its funny too, because this thread was the ground from which the seed of a new soul sprang forth after a total collapse of the prior soul and an almost three month long true "dark night" which ended on April 26th, 2012 when I found this thread. Since that time, I have grown a new soul from the ground up.

Because I had this experience, I do not believe anyone ever is in any danger whatsoever. I am no longer in any danger ever, whatsoever. No one bothers me. No dark forces ever bother me any more than a pesky mosquito. I am happy to share how I have accomplished this but of course, it would only be sharing my experience. In fact, I would not recommend the path I took to anyone (in hindsight).

This is the primary reason (but not the only reason) I have this view.

Another reason is this - Either I am (as we all are) perfect creatures of creation... (as all creatures of any and all creative forces that began this creation and happen to be within this creation experience)... perfect creatures of creation, immortal and eternal or I am not.

If I am (we are) not, then what does any of this matter anyways?

Now, I cannot know if I am this for certain, but I can bet on the fact that I am and thus I live my life as if I have won my bet. This allows me to take risks with essentially no fear.

Let me clarify something about what I mean by "perfect."

I am perfect.

Perfectly imperfect.

When I make a mistake... I make it perfectly.

No one can make a mistake any more perfectly than I.

The above allows me to take risks fearlessly. This does not mean foolishly or willy nilly. But my individuated journey ends only if and when I decide.

So with this view, is there really and truly any "danger?"

Thanks to this view, I am able to boundlessly be the change.

TheVoyager

19th July 2014, 09:57

Justone, I doubt very much you are alone in your experience. As a matter of fact, I know you are not.

Let me clarify something. You and only you are in charge of your game. The problem is that we have been tricked and fooled that this is not true and most of the population is led to believe that we are at the mercy of the 'outside world'. We've been playing this for so long that we've forgotten that this is a bold lie. But our essence, our spirit, did not forget it.

Once you know and understand the laws of the creation, then you know how to play it without being in danger. Because you ARE the creator. Literally. When one seeks protection that is like a big red flag to 'dark forces', as you called them. It is like signaling them, here I am, I am scared and I don't remember how this game is being played and I believe you have/can have a power over me. Once you hand out your power (consciously or by being tricked) then, of course, the outside forces get the power over you, or better said, you handed them the access to your game. Once done that, they can manipulate you and let you belive that you have no power. Why? Because they very well know that only by keeping one in a constant fear (hm, can we see that in our society?) they can keep the access to our vehicles (physical bodies).

But wait… our essence is the spirit, that spark of life that IS, that is the alpha and the omega, the start and the end of everything… So how come we are so manipulated? Because we are being programmed from the very start when we arrive in this physical mortal world into a genetically manipulated vehicle, so that the connection with our essence, our spirit, which is connected to our heart and we can hear it as our voice of intuition, would be as weak as possible. This essence, our spirit, is so powerful, that these dark forces are afraid of it. They are afraid of us. So they flip the coin and make us being afraid of them, but it's very probable that this fear is coming form them being in us (having an access to our bodies, to our game), if that makes any sense to you.

I haven't read all your posts but I guess that what happened to you was that one day you've had enough and you've decided by your sheer determinism that you wanted to take back control of your life. Well guess what? When one really really does that, things start happening. Big things. Because we start aknowledging that we are the creator of our game and therefore we can do all the changes we please to do.

It goes without saying that from then on there is a big internal battle going on because when we decide: 'that's enough, I've had enough' (and really mean it!) what we did is that we've just broken the agreements we've done in the past with the 'dark forces' (knowingly or by being tricked). And these forces will not leave our etheric field, our game, without trying to do everything to keep having the access to our game and therefore being able to manipulate us for their agenda.

We are the creators of our game (our life), and of all the games we create.We can change the games we are the creators of or are in charge of, but we cannot do that to other peoples games. You could change your game and therefore you've changed your life. For what you've decided that you wanted to be.

I am going to say it again. When we enter the game of another, we are then subject to the laws of that game. When we enter other people's games, as well intentioned as we might be, and if we do not get the permission to take over that game, then we can make no changes to that game. The opposite, we open ourselves to get hit by what is in the game that we've just stepped in.

You may get more insight into the basics of what I've just written above in the Maths and Geometry section of Steve Richards' web page:
http://www.holographickinetics.com/#!maths-and-geometry/cerz

Perhaps I find myself alone now.

I may be the only "human" on Earth at this time who is alive in his body and who experienced a total death of their soul without the body dying. Of course, what I just said probably sounds completely ridiculous to anyone who may read it, but this is the only words I can find to accurately describe what I experienced.

Its funny too, because this thread was the ground from which the seed of a new soul sprang forth after a total collapse of the prior soul and an almost three month long true "dark night" which ended on April 26th, 2012 when I found this thread. Since that time, I have grown a new soul from the ground up.

Because I had this experience, I do not believe anyone ever is in any danger whatsoever. I am no longer in any danger ever, whatsoever. No one bothers me. No dark forces ever bother me any more than a pesky mosquito. I am happy to share how I have accomplished this but of course, it would only be sharing my experience. In fact, I would not recommend the path I took to anyone (in hindsight).

This is the primary reason (but not the only reason) I have this view.

Another reason is this - Either I am (as we all are) perfect creatures of creation... (as all creatures of any and all creative forces that began this creation and happen to be within this creation experience)... perfect creatures of creation, immortal and eternal or I am not.

If I am (we are) not, then what does any of this matter anyways?

Now, I cannot know if I am this for certain, but I can bet on the fact that I am and thus I live my life as if I have won my bet. This allows me to take risks with essentially no fear.

Let me clarify something about what I mean by "perfect."

I am perfect.

Perfectly imperfect.

When I make a mistake... I make it perfectly.

No one can make a mistake any more perfectly than I.

The above allows me to take risks fearlessly. This does not mean foolishly or willy nilly. But my individuated journey ends only if and when I decide.

So with this view, is there really and truly any "danger?"

Thanks to this view, I am able to boundlessly be the change.

spiritwind

20th July 2014, 00:58

I apologize ahead of time for the length here.

I think I can kind of relate to what you are saying Justone. Since I have been on Avalon I realize that I am almost not the same person. In part I think that is because, in my case, I have allowed myself to go crazy. I will try to explain what I mean.

It really became apparent that something was never going to be the same after certain previously unknown aspects of myself came to light, starting in November of last year. Interestingly enough, we are no longer (as of yet) experiencing strange semi corporeal beings in the house since the elderly lady with severe Alzheimer’s passed away, so maybe that was all related to her kind of not being there.

But somewhere in there I have begun to view myself and all my experiences much differently. One of the things, and why I say I allowed myself to go crazy, is that there seems to be some type of integration process going on. See, I think the bad guys (those who try to thwart our development while claiming they are helping us) use synthesis, which is not the same as integration.

So, I decided that I would just follow certain types of thinking to see where it would go. All the many people, past lives, whatever you want to call them, are indeed in me, like a chorus of beings. But, I also decided to see what would happen if I didn’t judge any of them to be bad. Low and behold, I feel like we are all starting to work together and I am more able to access information about them that actually seems to be more of a good thing than bad. I’ve always been solution oriented, but now it seems that those solutions are coming to me from beyond my normal experience in this life.

See, I have been aware of several of these for a long time, like the early pioneer woman who was married to a preacher, gathered and used herbs and was a midwife as well. All those things have always been there for me in this life with ease, having 2 babies at home, an interest in herbs since I was 19, and a definite religious bent when I was younger. There are several others. But now I have had to add some to the mix that are not so ordinary. I’m not sure everyone is ready to make room for this type of thing. I don’t know if you ever saw the movie “the Dark Crystal” but it kind of reminds me of what I was trying to explain.

What I am leading up to is that I think for some of us this is a good process. I feel more balanced and able to handle the changes in my life than ever. And more massive change has just been put in our path again so I get to see how well I actually do this time. And I have not always been this person. Kind of weird, when I see the stability of my fellowman actually deteriorating. I say this because I work in a hotel again, same one I left last spring, just a couple days a week, and it seems more people than ever are not holding it together very well and regressing to quite childlike behavior (tantrums, yelling etc.).

As far as my earlier post about having participated in an attempt to help someone who felt he was going crazy and plagued by all kinds of paranormal phenomena, I think I am now ready to say a little more about that. I actually applaud the man in the video, but I also don’t think he has come up against what I experienced. I think the picture is much bigger than that.

I will actually share what this young man himself had to say:
“On The Darkness: I have spoken to my friend just now and she does agree with you on this (when I told him I thought this was actually quite serious). And quite frankly, I do too. It's very hard to pull myself away, however. Once it's on me, it's hard to pull away. This is not the first time it's happened and you know that. There is something completely addicting about the occult that makes me want to feed on it. More. And more. And more. I don't like it. But I can't stop. I am ravenous for it. For the thrill. But no longer. I want it away. I can't shut my eyes in peace. I can't listen to the night in serenity. No more matches. No more lighters. I'm done with these arsonist tendencies. Please, do help.”

This was his commentary about what I said about the way he was treating my daughter:
“I believe maybe this Entity living in me is blocking me from seeing clearly. My friends agree I've been very off lately. And I'm easily angered, and ****** might have said something about me lashing out to her on the phone. That, even on my part, was truly uncalled for. It seems that the Darkness does not want her to interfere. I hope It doesn't seek you the same way. I need your help. I am blinded and I need to see.”

And this is what my friend who has a good connection to the unseen world had to say when consulted:
“ I sat with the energy this morning and tuned into ****** and this is what I got. The kid has no idea what he is dealing with. He likes the high of what he perceives to be the occult or whatever he is playing with. He thinks he is in control or at least likes the adventure and exploration of the dark side. It's rebellious, a fad, group oriented to a degree but because of his willingness to participate, part of him has been contained elsewhere. It's like taking a layer of skin that holds everything he is, has been put in a jar and used to influence his being to whatever end "they" want to use him. Anger is a mechanism to and for control, it bleeds over into everything around you and therefore that darkness spreads where ever it can.

I went to the origin of this force and asked for him to be released and any hold they had on ******. This is a huge force, located in southern Calif with lines going up the middle and west coast side, almost looked like fault lines. It was like as many people "they" could get and hold onto and create a friction within themselves, this friction or energy spreading on the surface of the planet as well as within the planet created this tremendous force of possible destruction. I know this may sound weird, but it is what I saw. I had to take many, many layers off of **** to get back to the core of himself and reintegrate his true self with that which I retrieved from them. So whatever work you are going to do down there with him, hopefully this will make it better. Just remember we all have free will and as long as **** is attracted to this kind of energy, no matter what we do for him, he will attract it to himself and "they" will take advantage of that.”

I wouldn’t exactly say I’m getting used to strangeness or want a weird life, but I know I cannot live in fear on any level anymore and I will continue to push myself to face any and all that surface. I have not posted before about this out of fear for others and because I did have some repercussions from my involvement. But as long as things continue to be hidden in dark places, out of the light of day, they can continue to have a hold over us, IMO. Thanks for letting me share this. I think this is the right place for this.

Chester

20th July 2014, 19:02

For TheVoyager (and any other interested readers).

Everything I am about to write uses metaphor. Each statement also suggests an underlying world view I possessed at the time.

When I joined Avalon (December 15, 2011), I was in the midst of a massive archontic attack. The attack began when I was in my late teens when I received my first messianic suspicions. Then came the the final, full on attack (in late Dec. 2011). My error was that I thought the voice in my head was the voice of God. It was this same source that gave me synchronistic clues that "it" was related to Horus, was related to Ra and also happened to be related to the amoeba shaped object I experienced seeing when I was 6 years old (this post). (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44353-My-possible-abduction-experience)

I failed in my mission to save the world by killing myself... yes, this was the twisted message I received from one of "them."

Because I was unable to kill myself to save the world, I experienced a complete, utter death of my entire soul structure. I sunk into an almost 3 month long true "dark night" experience.

On April 26th, 2012 I discovered this thread - specifically post #1. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=430802&viewfull=1#post430802) In this post, I learned that there was a "being" which was proficient at implanting a messianic complex and was known as the Horus-Ra entity.

Because of this post, I finally had an explanation as to what I had experienced, "who/what" was involved with it and relief that it wasn't "God" after all. At the time I was living with my ex-wife's father and his wife. Moments after the reading of this post sunk in, I went out into their living room and announced to both of them "depression over!" And it was.

So at that moment I was a being with a body, a mind and the life force of Spirit and with a newly planted seed for a new soul. Since that day, primarily through my participation on this forum, I have grown a new soul. My soul has recently reached a state of acceptability and I am at peace.

I am not only the change I want to see. I simply be "me."

I am not my own worst enemy. I see "enemy" only if I choose to play the game of us/them. I usually don't. I only engage in the discussion of that sort of dynamic when the one I am in conversation with is anchored in that dynamic. I then always seek the opportunity to present the possibility there is no "them..." only us.

Us (to me) is all creatures that have sprung forth from creation. I do not care what intermediate "creator being" may be involved in the creation of any creature found within creation. It is still all and only us.

I see three primary levels of "being" which can only be seen from within form.

a.) There is the infinite creative source of all.

b.) There are sparks (urges) that come forth from this source which form their own expression of individuation. I see these as "creatures of creation."

c.) There are experiential realms which an individuated expression can enter (and which likely requires some sort of container (a body) which interfaces with the realm and other containers). I see these as single, contained experiences of a creature of creation.

I like to believe that each creature of creation is as source in every way and that through each creature's own free will choices generates its individuation and unique experience.

I like to believe that each creature of creation can choose at anytime to become re-absorbed by source if it so desires. I, personally, am enjoying the experiential realms and so I do not foresee choosing self annihilation any time soon. Again... I am speaking of my individuated self... that spark. I see the soul as a container I build through my choices, assumptions and experiences. My recent obliteration of my previous soul was not accompanied by my desire to no longer experience. Thus my spirit remained and a "new me" has come forth.

Here is my cosmology (as I currently see it). The infinite creator got bored with being the all that is. The urge that sprang forth from this boredom created all possibility within form. Unfortunately on of the possibilities was instant self annihilation. Consequently Love was born to counter this possibility.

For me, Love is the glue that binds experience to eternity and this is what we know (when manifest) as Life.

Since I am happy to be b.) and c.) - which I see metaphorically as The Child - I realize that I (my individuated spirit) has made all choices that brought me to the very place of here and the very moment of now. This means I must accept 100% responsibility for every single thing in my life.

Having come to the above conclusion, I made that decision to accept 100% responsibility. Because of my cosmology and because I have taken 100% responsibility for everything in my life, I never find myself entrapped in anyone else's game. I do find myself enjoying co-created games but never am I ever in a game where Love is not present - ever.

I currently know one other being that appears in human form that may share the above views... but that would be for her to claim.

spiritwind

20th July 2014, 19:19

For TheVoyager (and any other interested readers).

Everything I am about to write uses metaphor. Each statement also suggests an underlying world view I possessed at the time.

When I joined Avalon (Dec. 2011), I was in the midst of a massive archontic attack. The attack began when I was in my late teens when I received my first messianic suspicions. This was the final, full on attack. My error was that I thought the voice in my head was the voice of God. It was this same source that gave me synchronistic clues that "it" was related to Horus, was related to Ra and also happened to be related to the amoeba shaped object I experienced seeing when I was 6 years old (this post). (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44353-My-possible-abduction-experience)

I failed in my mission to save the world by killing myself... yes, this was the twisted message I received from one of "them."

Because I was unable to kill myself to save the world, I experienced a complete, utter death of my entire soul structure. I sunk into an almost 3 month long true "dark night" experience.

On April 26th, 2012 I discovered this thread - specifically post #1. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=430802&viewfull=1#post430802) In this post, I learned that there was a "being" which was proficient at implanting a messianic complex and was known as the Horus-Ra entity.

Because of this post, I finally had an explanation as to what I had experienced, "who/what" was involved with it and relief that it wasn't "God" after all. At the time I was living with my ex-wife's father and his wife. Moments after the reading of this post sunk in, I went out into their living room and announced to both of them "depression over!" And it was.

So at that moment I was a being with a body, a mind and the life force of Spirit and with a newly planted seed for a new soul. Since that day, primarily through my participation on this forum, I have grown a new soul. My soul has recently reached a state of acceptability and I am at peace.

I am not only the change I want to see. I simply be "me."

I am not my own worst enemy, I am my only enemy if I choose to play the game of us/them. I usually don't. I only engage in the discussion of that sort of dynamic when the one I am in conversation with is anchored in that dynamic. I then always seek the opportunity to present the possibility there is no "them..." only us.

Us (to me) is all creatures that have sprung forth from creation. I do not care what intermediate "creator being" may be involved in the creation of any creature found within creation. It is still all and only us.

I see three primary levels of "being" which can only be seen from within form.

a.) There is the infinite creative source of all.

b.) There are sparks (urges) that come forth from this source which form their own expression of individuation. I see these as "creatures of creation."

c.) There are experiential realms which an individuated expression can enter (and which likely requires some sort of container (a body) which interfaces with the realm and other containers. I see these as single, contained experiences of a creature of creation.

I like to believe that each creature of creation is as source in every way and that through each creature's own free will choices generates its individuation and unique experience.

I like to believe that each creature of creation can choose at anytime to become re-absorbed by source if it so desires. I, personally, am enjoying the experiential realms and so I do not foresee choosing self annihilation any time soon. Again... I am speaking of my individuated self... that spark. I see the soul as a container I build through my choices, assumptions and experiences. My recent obliteration of my previous soul was not accompanied by my desire to no longer experience. Thus my spirit remained and a "new me" has come forth.

Here is my cosmology (as I currently see it). The infinite creator got bored with being the all that is. The urge that sprang forth from this boredom created all possibility within form. Unfortunately on of the possibilities was instant self annihilation. Consequently Love was born to counter this possibility.

For me, Love is the glue that binds experience to eternity and this is what we know (when manifest) as Life.

Since I am happy to be b.) and c.) - which I see metaphorically as The Child - I realize that I (my individuated spirit) has made all choices that brought me to the very place of here and moment of now. This means I must accept 100% responsibility for every single thing in my life.

Having come to the above conclusion, I made that decision to accept 100% responsibility. Because of my cosmology and because I have taken 100% responsibility for everything in my life, I never find myself entrapped in anyone else's game. I do find myself enjoying co-created games but never am I ever in a game where Love is not present - ever.

I currently know one other being that appears in human form that may share the above views... but that would be for her to claim.

Uh, yeah. I must say that is indeed the general outline I currently subscribe to. I'm not sure I'm quite there yet on the 100% responsibility, but I am working on it. I am sure this is not everyone's philosophy, but I have long leaned in the direction that on some level I must be creating this reality I am experiencing. I don't think I'm doing it by myself though, as everything relates to everything else. But I have definitely identified that how I choose to perceive any situation I am experiencing does indeed affect the outcome. And there is always a choice, even if not recognized at the time. Hard to be in a loving peaceful state when fearful and angry. They kind of don't go well together. No matter what the future holds though, I know I will be okay. Learning to love and understand what that really means is my religion these days. Nothing else is more important.

Chester

21st July 2014, 02:26

William Cornelis Van Duyn - from his Facebook page -

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Journey-of-William-Cornelis-Van-Duyn/579888658776123?hc_location=timeline

I feel hate and anger in me..... What Putin did with the plane ttack eraly this morning. Ich hasse Russen... und Putin .... Wat zal hij doen? alleen om contol te hebben over Ukraine? voor wat kost? — at NATO HQ, Brussels.

Why would Putin do something like this? There is zero to gain for Putin from being involved in something like this.

Strange the timing... just a few days after BRICS began.

2 + 2 = ???

Jean-Luc

21st July 2014, 15:55

From Henry Makow's website today and with its final remark, which is exactly what I was thinking while reading this article, i.e. that its makes me think of what's happening in Gaza right now.
http://henrymakow.com/2014/07/Shocking-Depth-of-Illuminati-Depravity%20.html

Shocking Depth of Illuminati Depravity

July 21, 2014

Two books by satanic ritual abuse survivor
Kerth Barker reveal Illuminati engage in blood-drinking and
cannibalism. He is credible as a survivor but
his history of the Illuminati contains little insider insight.
However, his references to Illuminati culture and this amusing

YouTube on how the Illuminati make money are eye opening.

See also: Kerth Barker On Satanism

by Jeanice Barcelo
(henrymakow.com)

If you are one of the many people who would like to understand the inner workings of the satanic Illuminati, Kerth Barker's books are a must read.

angelic defenders.jpgKerth is a survivor of satanic ritual abuse. In his first book, Angelic Defenders & Demonic Abusers: Memoirs of a Satanic Ritual Abuse Survivor, Kerth describes, as a child, being forced into a pedophilic prostitution ring where he was programmed to sexually service high-level Illuminati members and initiates. Some of the sexual acts were photographed and/or filmed. These photos and films were not only sold for extremely high prices, but were also used to blackmail politicians and other public servants in order to force them to acquiesce to the mandates of the Illuminati.

A victim of trauma-based mind-control, Kerth was exposed to some of the most horrendous and harrowing experiences known to humankind. He was repeatedly tortured and traumatized and made to split into two separate personalities - one a mundane Christian named Kerth and the other a female satanist named Kathy. Kathy was the cross-dressing "girly-boy" that attended satanic rituals and performed sexual acts for her/his Illuminati "owners." Kerth was the "normal" Christian boy that attended school regularly and went to church with his family on Sundays.

Kerth describes some of the torture and manipulation that he was subjected to in order to get him to split into two personalities. He also describes some of the insane activities that he was forced to participate in as a child. This book leaves no doubt that there are seriously perverted and wicked individuals at the top of the Illuminati pyramid and they have no moral conscious or any feelings whatsoever about the trauma and violence they inflict on other people, especially children.

Thankfully, Kerth finds powerful non-satanic human and angelic allies as he moves through childhood and into adolescence. These allies help him break away from the satanists and they introduce him to a special form of therapy - called Fabian Therapy - that ultimately helps him reclaim his memories, his mind, and his soul. Kerth now works furiously to expose the Illuminati and to help free those who are wanting to get out.

In his second book, entitled Cannibalism, Blood Drinking, and High Adept Satanism, Kerth takes us on a journey into the underworld of Satanism. It is here that we meet two incestuous, inbred sisters who are not only proud of the fact that they are "aristocratic cannibals," but whose home is a virtual prison compound where they keep slaves and brain-dead, inbred servants who are forced to cater to their every whim. Kerth describes the sisters' penchant for consuming human blood and body parts, as well as the cruelty, violence, and depravity of these extremely insane "people." He also shares insider information regarding the fact that these two psychopaths serve the Illuminati by working in positions of importance within the United Nations.

We also learn that some Illuminati have an addiction to adrenalized blood drinking. This addiction forces them to kidnap and torture their victims before they murder them and drink their blood. Kerth has compassion for these very damaged people and he has been trained in a special form of therapy that can help blood drinking addicts recover from their addiction.

Many of these Satanists DO NOT engage in cannibalism or blood drinking but rather manipulate people through hypnotism and well-developed methods of psychic control.

NETWORKS OF MUTUAL BLACKMAIL

Satanism derives much of its power and tenacity from carefully constructed networks of mutual blackmail and self-perpetuating inter-generational patterns of child abuse that often parasitize the families of its practitioners.

In that respect, Satanists are hardly in control of their own lives - they are more like cogs in a machine than free individuals. Unfortunately, these machines can, and have been programmed to do some very nasty things. And this includes attempting to destroy the world and, if necessary, taking themselves out with it. There is no sanity to their logic or their behavior. It is completely depraved.

Be forewarned that some of the material in CANNIBALISM is extremely hard to read and I am quite certain that, for Kerth, it was very hard to write. Yet for all of us, The Truth remains that if we hope to overcome the psychopathy and evil that now grips our planet and threatens all of life, we must understand the enemy and know how they work. I think we owe Kerth an enormous debt of gratitude for coming forward with this information and I trust that many will find what he shares invaluable.

For more information, please visit http://angelicdefenders.theshamecampaign.com/

Jeannice's website is http://birthofanewearth.com/
Barker's website is ThoughtCrime Radio
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First Comment by Alex:

I was reading through Geoffrey Ashe's "The Hell-Fire Clubs", and I came across a quote from a well known French nobleman, Donatien Alphonse Francois, that perfectly sums up our ruling elite's attitude on this matter:

"The strong individual, when he despoils the weak- when, that is to say, he actively enters into the enjoyment of those rights which Nature has conferred upon him, and exercises them to the full- reaps pleasure in proportion to the extent to which he realizes his potentialities. The more atrocious the harm he inflicts upon the helpless, the greater will be the quiverings of voluptuous delight which he will feel... Such a man glories in the tears which his hand wrings from the unfortunate whom he persecutes; and the more he persecutes, the happier such a despot will feel- for it is thus that he makes the greatest use of those gifts Nature has bestowed on him."

Donatien was known by his peers as "the Divine Marquis", but is better known by his title of nobility: the Marquis de Sade.
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Thanks Alex,

Reminds me of what is happening in Gaza. - Henry - See more at: http://www.henrymakow.com/#sthash.El6PDFbs.dpuf

Chester

22nd July 2014, 02:55

Kerth Barker

Note around the 19 minute mark... some within the Illuminati are performing therapy on those who have suffered from the trauma based programming. I think Kerth calls it "Fabian Therapy."

There are several inferences Kerth makes that suggest there is a split within these groups regarding the dark activities -

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Houman

25th July 2014, 17:10

Flight Engineer shares his life-changing spiritual experience

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Daughter of Time

26th July 2014, 03:20

Lying in bed recently, tossing and turning; turning and tossing - wishing I could find a way to sleep like a human being should sleep instead of experiencing this ongoing agony of being awake when my body and mind need rest.

Fully awake but wishing to sleep, I closed my eyes and experienced what felt like a projection directed at my mind. There was no presence in my room, just a mental projection.

I saw an insectoid type of being with a face very similar to a fly, blue-black in color, erect body with legs and arms - very tall - about 7' to my perception. It was wearing a type of seemingly light armor the same color as its skin. It carried a cylindrical type of weapon almost the size of a rifle, the mouth of the weapon about 2" in diameter. Then I noticed there was an entire army like formation behind this being and they all looked identical.

The being looked very stern, not angry, no specific expression, just sternness. He then pointed his weapon to my head, where the third eye is located. I understood that this weapon served the purpose of splintering or fragmenting the essence or life force of the person so that the fragments of the essence could be consumed. I wondered what would become of me now. I telepathically pleaded to let me be because I cannot afford to lose any more of my essence. The being communicated that I could afford to lose much more but there is so much food out there that it really wasn't necessary to take any more from me. He (I say "he" because it felt like a male energy) then lowered his weapon. I was relieved and asked how I could retrieve what has been taken from me. He said they do not give back what they take (no big surprise here). He then turned around and walked away. I opened my eyes and felt relatively calm, not frightened as expected, but remained awake wondering how "real" these experiences are. Simon Parkes states that they are "all" real regardless of whether one physically sees these beings or dreams about them or senses them otherwise!

So many thoughts are being projected into my mind that cause me a great deal of worry and grief. Externally I seem to be in total control of my life. Internally I am utter turmoil and still fail to do all the things I've set out to do.

Shamans claim to be able to do soul retrieval. I wonder how it is possible to retrieve life force if it has already been consumed. Can anyone enlighten me on this? I have been thinking of finding a shaman who might help me recover and reclaim the lost parts of me. But I don't know who I can trust. How does one know if someone who proclaims to be a shaman can be trusted?

I wondered whether I should share this story, whether it's important enough to be shared, but since it's another bizarre incident in my bizarre life then I felt I should and this is the thread this story belongs to.

I wish the being had stayed longer provided that the weapon would have remained lowered. I had so many questions I would have wanted to ask. Of course, answers may not have been forthcoming, but at least I wanted to try.

So many questions... where does one find the answers? Where does one find the light to diffuse the darkness?

As always, with love!

Daughter of Time

Chester

26th July 2014, 20:27

One of the things I notice many of us do is we dismiss good ideas and/or possibly good/correct information from sources who sometimes are assumed to have made false assertions. We say, if they are wrong about this (or if I cannot agree with this) then everything that comes from this source is worthless.

If anyone happens to have a closed mind regarding both the interviewer and interviewee in this following video, you may miss some potentially important information as well as potential proposed approaches to dealing with the problems of pesky non-3D entities.

Check out from the 20 minute mark -

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Daughter of Time

29th July 2014, 17:30

TheVoyager

29th July 2014, 19:42

Daughter of Time, as I know you'd need to find the reason why you got implanted in the first place, then enfold space time and create a new time line, so it can never happen again in your future cycles of time, and get rid of what it got access to you at the moment of the original agreement (of entrapment) and get rid of the implants.

In other words, removing an implant and not dealing with how it got access to you in the first place would not solve the problem if the one who put it there in the first place still have an access to you. You need to go back to the cause of the effect, that is to the moment of invasion of the force that handles the implants and change that dimension.

And so the search continues. How to get out of this hellish sea of manipulations, programmings, implants, etc., etc., etc.,

I'm still thinking about finding a shaman but I haven't quite decided about that.

Recently, the removal of implants has come to my attention. Physical implants must be removed physically therefore one must travel to where this procedure can be done. But to my understanding, the truly damaging implants are the non physical ones since they are carried from one lifetime to the next. There are those who claim they are able to remove these implants while you remain in your home and the procedure is done while you sleep.

I've consulted someone I trust who knows a great deal about my history and all the unsavory things that some of us are subjected to and he feels it might be unwise to seek removal of etheric implants since usually, during these procedures, one is re-implanted with something else which might solve the current issues but create other issues in their place.

I am at a loss as to what to do!!!

If any readers of this post have any information on implant removal and potential success and/or damage ocurring from having the procedure done, I hope you will share it here.

Thank you.

With love,

Daughter of Time

Houman

1st August 2014, 22:28

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/the-david-icke-videocast-gaza-and-the-psychopathic-mind/

The David Icke Videocast: Gaza and the Psychopathic Mind
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/30/chris-gunness-breaks-down_n_5634920.html
UN Official Chris Gunness Breaks Down On Air After School Bombing
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barrosini

2nd August 2014, 04:57

Chester

2nd August 2014, 23:00

- the Mind (more similar to the conscious mind)

- the Spirit (” ” to the subconscious mind)

- the Soul (” ” more similar to the unconscious mind)

What is to be ment with "Spirit...,more similar to subconscious mind"?, and the diferentiation of "spirit" and "soul"..?, or the atributes of intelectual properties to matters of spirit?
huh...:confused:

For what it is worth - I have asked this question a zillion times. I have read a zillion books. No one can know. No one in 3D. We can come up with what "we think these things are." We can rely on outside sources to "tell us what they are.." But there is no publicly known method for proving any of these things exist in the forms their various definitions provide.

So here is what I did. I decided what each of these terms means for me. I also have a rule - I can change my mind.

So here is how I define these terms today.

We are (metaphorically) "children" of a Source beyond imagination... each of us, a "spark" of/from this Source.

Each "spark" is an individuated, energetic impetus that has free will to continue. I call this energy, Spirit. Thus I see our individuated being as "a Spirit."

As a Spirit moves through experiences, this Spirit accumulates knowledge, lessons, etc. from these experiences. The accumulation of knowledge and experiences forms "the Soul." The purpose of the Soul is to allow a Spirit to move from experience to experience while retaining the essential knowledge and lessons from previous experiences. The Soul is the container of these essential experiences. The Soul ensures that as a Spirit releases a "bodily container" (such as a body in physicality), that Spirit is able to retain the essential experiential data. When a Spirit incarnates into the next experience (and this does not have to be as a being in physicality... it can be in any conceivable paradigm where form springs forth), that Spirit is able to pull through in its formative time span (for a human this is about 6 or 7 years of life) all of these essentials such that the Spirit being can continue its potentially eternal journey from the same "experiential place" it left off from at its last transition point.

A transition point is a point where a Spirit being moves from one realm within form to another. It could be the point of "bodily death" in a prior physical realm incarnation. It could also be the point that Spirit being is at in its eternal journey just prior to incarnating into a new "bodily" experience. Experiences can be gained and logged into the Soul both during incarnations of some sort as well as well in the less dense realms we may refer to (from the POV of physicality) as "spiritual realms."

The mind is simply where all the thoughts reside. I find the mind to be passive in the now moment. When the mind is active it is either reviewing the past or projecting something about the future. I use my mind as a tool. In the past, I lived all and only in my mind. Fortunately, this is no longer so much the case.

Emotions arise and appear linked to the being's Soul and/or bodily container and/or our individual mind generated beliefs. They assist the mind in assimilating an experience and bringing the essence of an experience into the data banks of the Soul.

It seems the most reliable mode of operation is a balanced blend of emotion and mind. It is also my opinion that the less trauma a Spirit being has experienced, the more the emotions of love are experienced. The more trauma a Spirit being experiences, the greater the odds are that fear dominates the emotions and mind of the Spirit being.

Of course, we all have the capacity to grow through any experience and thus what was once traumatic can transform into an incredible character building experience.

The Body - This is the container and individuated Spirit being utilizes for a single experience within a specific realm. The Body comes forth from all but nothing and one day dissolves into nothing. It is temporary.

So - wrapping my lengthy post up with a review.

I am Source.

I am a spark from Source which desires experience. I am a Spirit being.

My experiences grow my Soul.

Sometimes my experiences take me into realms of form whereby I take on another "container" - a Body.

This complex experiences Emotions and thoughts (the Mind).

This is my opinion as to who/what we are.

As for conscious, sub-conscious and unconscious... I see all those as the Mind/Emotion complex.

I see us all like icebergs in the ocean. There is a small part that rises above the water (this is the conscious part - the part we live and interact with in our waking state and partially in the dream state - of our overall consciousness). Most folks only recognize thoughts from this part of the mind. But the biggest part of the iceberg (perhaps 90% or so) resides below the surface of the water. This is still a part the individuated Spirit being's own mind but most of us are so disconnected from this part of our consciousness that we call it the sub conscious. What we call the unconscious is the deepest part of the sub conscious.

Now notice that this is an iceberg and that the iceberg is floating in the ocean. The ocean is made up of water. So is the iceberg. And the iceberg is constantly shedding some of itself and/or adding to itself and it is all water. So the metaphor implies the sub conscious mind mixes with a common pool of thoughts and emotions which we all share in the vast ocean of consciousness. This is why some folks experience a large amount of psi experiences and yet many do not because they live almost fully in the part of the mind that the "above the water iceberg" represents. My theory as to why many of us do not is because most folks are convinced that all that really matters is what goes on in their waking state, conscious mind and most also are pretty much close minded that we are all connected (much less one all-connected ocean of experience.)

I did not intend to write an epic post but it just poured out.

And a final note - this is all and only my own personal description and usage of all of the above noted terms. And the final, final point... it may all change tomorrow.

Houman

6th August 2014, 02:45

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=395_1406240704

Ex IDF Fighters, they now refuse to remain silent and speak to Paris Match

Micha, Dana, Noam, and Mikhael fought for the IDF. This is the first time that Israeli officials openly express their protest about abuses inflicted in the Gaza Strip between 2000 and 2009.

Grenades to scare
"We tumbling in a Palestinian village 3am and starts throwing stun grenades in the streets. For nothing to fear. We saw people wake up terrified ... We are told that it scares away potential terrorists. Anything ... By rotation, we did that every night. Routine. We were told "Good operation." We did not understand why. "

Wanting a Hospital
"One night we ordered to break into a Hebron clinic belonging to Hamas. Are confiscated equipment: computers, phones, printers, other things there for thousands of shekels. The reason? Touching Hamas portfolio just before the elections to the Palestinian Parliament, he will lose. The Israeli government officially announced that he would not try to influence the election ... "
« On a tué un type par pure ignorance »
"We did not know that during Ramadan, the faithful out in the street at 4 in the morning with drum to wake people up, they eat before sunrise. It identifies a type in an alley holding something, it cries out "stop". Here, if the "suspect" does not stop immediately, the procedure requires summations. "Stop or I'll shoot", then air is drawn, then the legs, etc.. In reality, this rule is never applied. He was killed, period. And pure ignorance of local rites. "

Farmers in tears
"Our excavators stand a separation barrier in the middle of a field of Palestinian fig. The farmer comes into tears! "I planted this orchard for ten years, I waited ten years it bears fruit, I took advantage for a year, and there they uproot me" It n 'there is no solution replanting. There is compensation only from 41% of confiscated land. If it is 40%, you have nothing. The worst is that maybe tomorrow they will decide to stop the construction of the barrier. "

Making his stripes, become soldier
"We installed checkpoints surprises. Anywhere, it is never clear. And suddenly it stops everyone, their license is checked. There, there, women, children, old people, for hours, sometimes in full sun. We adopt innocent people who want to work, find food, not terrorists ... I have done for five months, eight hours a day, it broke me. So I decided to make my stripes commander. "

"Our mission: to annoy, harass"
"We are in Hebron. Because terrorists are local residents and our mission is to hinder terrorist activity, operating this route is through the town, into abandoned houses, or random inhabited houses - there is no intelligence that we pilot - the search, the sack ... and find nothing.Weapons or terrorists. The people eventually get used. They are angry, depressed, but used because it lasts for years. Suffering among the civilian population, it make life, and know that it is useless. This creates such a feeling of worthlessness. "

"Collective punishment"
"My most immoral acts? Blowing up houses terror suspects, arrest hundreds of people en masse, blindfolded, bound hand and foot, take them by truck; penetrate into houses, brutally lift families; sometimes we returned to the house to explode; you never knew why such house, or what suspects arrested. Sometimes we order was given to destroy the bulldozer or explosives into the village as a collective punishment for harboring terrorists. "

"Protecting aggressive settlers"
"We landed in the Nablus district to ensure the safety of the settlers. We discover that they have decided to attack Hawara, the neighboring village, Palestinian. They are armed, throw stones, supported in this by a group of French Jewish Orthodox filming, taking pictures. Result: we find ourselves caught between Arabs surprised, terrified, and our obligation to protect the settlers.An officer tries to push the settlers in their land, he received blows, there is fire, it drops. We do not know what to do: retain, protect Palestinians, protect us, an absurd and crazy scene. We ended up returning to the attackers home. Ten Arabs were wounded. "

Murdering an unarmed man
"We are stationed in a house that has emptied its occupants are suspected terrorists, is monitored, it is 2:00 in the morning. One of our snipers identifies a guy on a roof walking. I watch it with binoculars, it was in the 25-26 years is not armed. Is informed by radio that we close the commander: "This is a watchman. Get it. "Shooter obeyed. I call it murder. We had the means to stop it. And it is not a unique case, there are dozens. "

Heather2017

6th August 2014, 14:45

And so the search continues. How to get out of this hellish sea of manipulations, programmings, implants, etc., etc., etc.,

I'm still thinking about finding a shaman but I haven't quite decided about that.

Recently, the removal of implants has come to my attention. Physical implants must be removed physically therefore one must travel to where this procedure can be done. But to my understanding, the truly damaging implants are the non physical ones since they are carried from one lifetime to the next. There are those who claim they are able to remove these implants while you remain in your home and the procedure is done while you sleep.

I've consulted someone I trust who knows a great deal about my history and all the unsavory things that some of us are subjected to and he feels it might be unwise to seek removal of etheric implants since usually, during these procedures, one is re-implanted with something else which might solve the current issues but create other issues in their place.

I am at a loss as to what to do!!!

If any readers of this post have any information on implant removal and potential success and/or damage ocurring from having the procedure done, I hope you will share it here.

Thank you.

With love,

Daughter of Time

Hi Daughter of Time and Avalon family. I think for most of us, there's a lot of inner work involved with becoming and remaining free of manipulation, mind control and implants. Others can assist with the process.

While I still have a long way to go, learning how to shield myself (and others with permission), command my space and cancel contracts and agreements has been helpful. Also focus on clearing fear and negative ego, emotional healing and building a strong spiritual house.

Within the Energetic Synthesis (http://www.energeticsynthesis.com/) community, we use the Hieros Gamos System (http://www.energeticsynthesis.com/index.php/hgs), which has an alien implant module. (Some sections of the HGS are public and some aren't yet--ongoing process.)

Yes, it's important when removing implants to clear related memories and influences and protect against further intrusion. Recently had a session with someone who helped me remove a really nasty suppressor parasite entity. If you'd told me five years ago that I'd be posting that information in a forum, I wouldn't have believed it.

Has there been some backlash? Yes, we can expect interference whenever we make progress. Such is the life we signed up for on this planet at this time. Still totally worth it and better than the alternative. :biggrin:

Happy to chat further via PM.

Big hugs to you and all the brave souls working to make things better.

Love,
Heather

shadowstalker

9th August 2014, 04:26

- the Mind (more similar to the conscious mind)

- the Spirit (” ” to the subconscious mind)

- the Soul (” ” more similar to the unconscious mind)

What is to be ment with "Spirit...,more similar to subconscious mind"?, and the diferentiation of "spirit" and "soul"..?, or the atributes of intelectual properties to matters of spirit?
huh...:confused:

For what it is worth - I have asked this question a zillion times. I have read a zillion books. No one can know. No one in 3D. We can come up with what "we think these things are." We can rely on outside sources to "tell us what they are.." But there is no publicly known method for proving any of these things exist in the forms their various definitions provide.

So here is what I did. I decided what each of these terms means for me. I also have a rule - I can change my mind.

So here is how I define these terms today.

We are (metaphorically) "children" of a Source beyond imagination... each of us, a "spark" of/from this Source.

Each "spark" is an individuated, energetic impetus that has free will to continue. I call this energy, Spirit. Thus I see our individuated being as "a Spirit."

As a Spirit moves through experiences, this Spirit accumulates knowledge, lessons, etc. from these experiences. The accumulation of knowledge and experiences forms "the Soul." The purpose of the Soul is to allow a Spirit to move from experience to experience while retaining the essential knowledge and lessons from previous experiences. The Soul is the container of these essential experiences. The Soul ensures that as a Spirit releases a "bodily container" (such as a body in physicality), that Spirit is able to retain the essential experiential data. When a Spirit incarnates into the next experience (and this does not have to be as a being in physicality... it can be in any conceivable paradigm where form springs forth), that Spirit is able to pull through in its formative time span (for a human this is about 6 or 7 years of life) all of these essentials such that the Spirit being can continue its potentially eternal journey from the same "experiential place" it left of from in its last transition point.

A transition point is a point where a Spirit being moves from one realm within form to another. It could be the point of "bodily death" in a prior physical realm incarnation. It could also be the point that Spirit being is at in its eternal journey just prior to incarnating into a new "bodily" experience. Experiences can be gained and logged into the Soul both during incarnations of some sort as well as well in the less dense realms we may refer to (from the POV of physicality) as "spiritual realms.

The mind is simply where all the thoughts reside. I find the mind to be passive in the now moment. When the mind is active it is either reviewing the past or projecting something about the future. I use my mind as a tool. In the past, I lived all and only in my mind. Fortunately, this is no longer so much the case.

Emotions arise and appear linked to the being's Soul and bodily container. They assist the mind in assimilating and experience and bringing the essence of an experience into the data banks of the Soul.

It seems the most reliable mode of operation is a balanced blend of emotion and mind. It is also my opinion that the less trauma a Spirit being has experienced, the more the emotions of love are experienced. The more trauma a Spirit being experiences, the greater the odds are that fear dominates the emotions and mind of the Spirit being.

Of course, we all have the capacity to grow through any experience and thus what was once traumatic can transform into an incredible character building experience.

The Body - This is the container and individuated Spirit being utilizes for a single experience within a specific realm. The Body comes forth from all but nothing and one day dissolves into nothing. It is temporary.

So - wrapping my lengthy post up with a review.

I am Source.

I am a spark from Source which desires experience. I am a Spirit being.

My experiences grow my Soul.

Sometimes my experiences take me into realms of form whereby I take on another "container" - a Body.

This complex experiences Emotions and thoughts (the Mind).

This is my opinion as to who/what we are.

As for conscious, sub-conscious and unconscious... I see all those as the Mind/Emotion complex.

I see us all like icebergs in the ocean. There is a small part that rises above the water (this is the conscious part - the part we live and interact with in our waking state and partially in the dream state - of our overall consciousness). Most folks only recognize thoughts from this part of the mind. But the biggest part of the iceberg (perhaps 90% or so) resides below the surface of the water. This is still a part the individuated Spirit being's own mind but most of us are so disconnected from this part of our consciousness that we call it the sub conscious. What we call the unconscious is the deepest part of the sub conscious.

Now notice that this is an iceberg and that the iceberg is floating in the ocean. The ocean is made up of water. So is the iceberg. And the iceberg is constantly shedding some of itself and/or adding to itself and it is all water. So the metaphor implies the sub conscious mind mixes with a common pool of thoughts and emotions which we all share in the vast ocean of consciousness. This is why some folks experience a large amount of psi experiences and yet many do not because they live almost fully in the part of the mind that the "above the water iceberg" represents. My theory as to why many of us do not is because most folks are convinced that all that really matters is what goes on in their waking state, conscious mind and most also are pretty much close minded that we are all connected (much less one all-connected ocean of experience.)

I did not intend to write an epic post but it just poured out.

And a final note - this is all and only my own personal description and usage of all of the above noted terms. And the final, final point... it may all change tomorrow.
your right epic, truly epic on so many levels

Houman

14th August 2014, 20:03

Stew Webb and Preston James 17Sep2013 on the top layers
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Houman

20th August 2014, 14:12

http://www.naturalnews.com/046535_mmr_vaccines_autism_cdc_whistleblower.html
CDC Whistleblower
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DNA

20th August 2014, 14:43

http://www.naturalnews.com/046535_mmr_vaccines_autism_cdc_whistleblower.html
CDC Whistleblower
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The MMR Vaccine given to infants is shown to cause autism twice as much in the black population as the while population?

This is being linked with,,,,am I getting this right? A modern eugenics program?

Please tell me I"m misunderstanding this.

I was aware of the correlations in so far as autism and the MMR, but not in a possible eugenics application.

I want to avert my eyes and say I do not understand, and that I do not believe. Unfortunatly,,,I can not.

Houman

23rd August 2014, 00:59

Charlotte Iserbyt on the Common Core
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Houman

23rd August 2014, 01:48

An update on the CDC whistle-blower http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?74107-Breaking-CDC-whistleblower-Thompson-in-grave-danger-now

Breaking: CDC whistleblower Thompson in grave danger now (http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/08/22/breaking-cdc-whistleblower-thompson-in-grave-danger-now/)

Aug22 (http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/08/22/breaking-cdc-whistleblower-thompson-in-grave-danger-now/), 2014 by Jon Rappoport (http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/author/jonrappoport/)
www.nomorefakenews.com (http://www.nomorefakenews.com/)

William W Thompson, PhD…the CDC whistleblower…was escorted off the premises of the CDC campus yesterday afternoon. This is what a source has just told me.

Therefore, the CDC knows Thompson is the whistleblower.

He’s in danger.

I’ve also been told that the Autism Media Channel, which had posted the video revealing Thompson’s name and outing him, is gone. The site is suddenly gone.

Threats of various kinds, at the very least, will now be applied to Thompson. Legal action, perhaps arrest, perhaps worse.

When it comes to vaccines and protecting that empire, the games are very serious. Deadly serious. The gloves come off.

People have to understand this, if Thompson disappears or shows up dead “as a suicide.”

Since Thompson isn’t, as of this moment, stepping forward himself to provide full disclosure on his past actions, and since his name is already out there….the best protection he has is other people.

Other people making his name and his dangerous situation known. That has to happen now.

Prior to this morning, Thompson had been standing in the shadows as an anonymous source, admitting that he cooked data to hide a connection between autism and the MMR vaccine.

Now other things are known. In 2007, he published a study on the effects of mercury (thimerosal) on babies and very young children—and he concluded that there were both positive and negative effects, but the effects on both sides were very small.

The study was used by the press and the government to trumpet the idea (the lie) that everybody could rest easy; vaccines containing mercury weren’t harming anyone.

Now, this, too, comes under scrutiny. If Thompson was lying about the MMR vaccine, did he also lie about mercury and its toxic effects? Did he intentionally underplay those effects? Did he cook the data in that study, too?

Thompson has been working at NCIR, the CDC’s National Center for Immunizations and Respiratory Diseases—until yesterday.

NCIR includes, in its mission statement, the following: “prevention of disease, disability, and death through immunization…” In other words, it’s a PR agency that promotes vaccines. Actual science about vaccine dangers would be cut off at the pass.

Thompson is looked at as a threat to this agenda.

His unwillingness to come all the way forward, speak his name, tell the whole truth has boomeranged on him. Predictable.

Psychiatric detention and drugging, threats of lawsuits for violating “confidentiality agreements,” arrest, “you’ll never get a job again,” and “sudden suicide” are all possibilities.

Shining a very bright light on Thompson and his situation is his best hope now.

Jon Rappoport

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About the extent of the CDC fraud and incrimination:

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Published on Aug 22, 2014
SENIOR GOVERNMENT SCIENTIST BREAKS 13 YEARS OF SILENCE ON CDC’S VACCINE-AUTISM FRAUD

AFRICAN AMERICAN BOYS WILLFULLY EXPOSED TO HIGH RISK OF AUTISM FROM MMR VACCINE

Houman

23rd August 2014, 02:05

On the common core by Dr Duke Pesta

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Houman

23rd August 2014, 02:24

"Story-Killers: How the Common Core Destroys Minds and Souls" by Terrence O. Moore
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MissKat

25th August 2014, 16:19

I am so grateful for all this information. I have been searching Ancient Texts on how to get these parasites out of our lives. This will be sooooo helpful. I havent had time to absorb all of this, but I am going to really research.
Also, I am wondering, I had read that these parasites have a connection to Mercury. Could this be why our vaccines and dental fillings are laced with Mercury? Mercury will build up in the body, so I am just wondering if anyone else has wondered this? I havent read the whole thread yet, so maybe someone has already addressed the subject. If so apologizing.

Houman

5th September 2014, 21:38

At last...

video at http://vimeo.com/104141199
From http://www.activistpost.com/2014/09/bombshell-cdc-whistleblower-goes.html

Bombshell: CDC whistleblower goes further: mercury causes autism
Jon Rappoport
Activist Post

The brief explosive video is posted at autismmediachannel.com on the home page: “CDC Whistleblower William Thompson on Thimerosal.”

Beyond admitting to fraud in a 2004 CDC study that exonerated the MMR vaccine, Dr. William Thompson, a CDC scientist, asserts there is a connection between mercury (thimerosal) in vaccines and autism.

Thompson states that giving a vaccine containing mercury to a pregnant woman is something he would never do.

Couched in science-speak, Thompson winds up his remarks with this: “There is biologic plausibility right now to say thimerosal causes autism-like features.”

For a scientist at the CDC to make this admission, after millions and millions of dollars have been spent by that agency and the US government to conclude mercury has no connection to autism…it’s extraordinary, to say the least.

The PR mantra declaring thimerosal safe has been repeated thousands of times by major media outlets—and now a researcher on the inside has repudiated it.

Experts and other con artists will try to parse Thompson’s words, but the meaning is clear.

Only a mindless idiot or an overt killer would inject a vaccine containing mercury into a human being.

Meanwhile, the major media blackout on Thompson’s revelations continues. The collusion in a vast crime is their mission.

Jon Rappoport

Pris

6th September 2014, 06:12

Only a mindless idiot or an overt killer would inject a vaccine containing mercury into a human being.

Jon Rappoport

...let alone injecting a so-called 'vaccine'.

Houman

7th September 2014, 00:44

Houman

7th September 2014, 00:50

Only a mindless idiot or an overt killer would inject a vaccine containing mercury into a human being.

Jon Rappoport

...let alone injecting a so-called 'vaccine'.

Given the correct information yes... sadly this world has been built upon lies and it is becoming increasing lethal to those who won't think by themselves...

Houman

8th September 2014, 16:38

Dr. Andy Wakefield with A. Jones on the CDC cover-up

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Houman

13th September 2014, 04:48

Houman

13th September 2014, 05:18

One day this nation will wake up from its cognitive dissonance and realize the horror of what has been done to its children...
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araucaria

13th September 2014, 06:04

The "dying Nasa scientist" (now dead?) in his video no 3 presented a sequence of images that could be interpreted as follows

1 Bush Jr
2 9-11
3 ISIS?
4 City being blown up
5 Iran
6 Nuclear explosion
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1) The Greek quotation on the voting slip I believe is from the New Testament (Mark 4.23) (akouein akoueto are from the verb to listen/hear, as in acoustics).
New International Version
If anyone has ears to hear, let them hear."

New Living Translation
Anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand."

English Standard Version
If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear.”

New American Standard Bible
"If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear."
http://biblehub.com/mark/4-23.htm

2) The sound track is the Meditation from Jules Massenet’s opera Thaïs:

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The meditation marks the moment when the courtesan Thaïs finally rejects her nihilistic lifestyle after a monk tells her that he loves her according to the spirit rather than the flesh, and that his love will last forever instead of a single night.

Makes sense.

Pris

14th September 2014, 19:18

One day this nation will wake up from its cognitive dissonance and realize the horror of what has been done to its children...
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Great video on the vaccine issue! The only part I disagree with is that all children 'have the right to attend public schools' (spoken by the brave young boy). I agree with home schooling of course. The public school system right now is controlled by the same people who want us all vaccinated. It's all set up to harm us and 'dumb us down'.

Limor Wolf

20th September 2014, 15:11

Child of Rage

Child of Rage is a CBS Television movie made in 1992 starring Ashley Peldon and Mel Harris. The film is based on the true story by Beth Thomas, who suffered from reactive attachment disorder as a result of being sexually abused as a child. This is so sad and no child in the world should have to go through this. Please love and take care of your children.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szcsT3pOuBw

Atlas

20th September 2014, 16:19

The "dying Nasa scientist" (now dead?)

his name is Duncan Trussell and he is alive and well.

All the proof about the Dying Nasa Scientist is on my page. It is the work of a mentally sick internet prankster Duncan Trussell

I dug a little deeper into some of the videos. The video with the puppet called Lil Hobo and the bleeding woman in the chair is the exact video called "Lil' Hobo-The Loneliest Probe." This video was uploaded to youtube 6 years ago. At the end of that video the credits say it was written by a guy called Duncan Trussell.

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http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=26543.15

Limor Wolf

20th September 2014, 17:20

From Huffington Post -

Florida Satanic Church Is Now Passing Out Children's Coloring Books In Public Schools

Have you ever wondered what a Satanic children's coloring book might look like? Well, thanks to the great state of Florida you can now know for certain.

Behold, the "The Satanic Children’s Big Book of Activities," a coloring book that is being disseminated across Orange County public schools, according to Raw Story.

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2076824/thumbs/o-SATANIC-COLORING-BOOK-1-570.jpg?6

We first encountered the unusual children's lit on artnet News, who aptly illuminated this story surely falls into the "only in Florida" category.

The details: Last month a Christian group received permission to distribute Bibles and other religious materials to their students, leading atheist groups to appeal for an equal opportunity. It wasn't long before the Satanic community hopped on board as well.

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2076838/thumbs/o-SATANIC-COLORING-BOOK-2-570.jpg?3

If a public school board is going to allow religious pamphlets and full Bibles to be distributed to students -- as is the case in Orange County, Florida -- we think the responsible thing to do is to ensure that these students are given access to a variety of differing religious opinions, as opposed to standing idly by while one religious voice dominates the discourse and delivers propaganda to youth," the Satanic Temple’s spokesperson, Lucien Greaves, explained in a statement.

"I am quite certain that all of the children in these Florida schools are already aware of the Christian religion and it’s Bible, and this might be the first exposure these children have to the actual practice of Satanism. We think many students will be very curious to see what we offer."

Intrigued? You can purchase the book for $9.95 here. For a very different, yet equally unconventional, take on a coloring book, check out Ryan Hunter and Taige Jensen' hilarious "Coloring Book for Grownups."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/19/satanic-coloring-book_n_5846640.html

sms

22nd September 2014, 23:14

Sorry, I have had to delete this post.

...

Houman

27th September 2014, 19:51

Sorry, I have had to delete this post.

...

Too bad, it was quite interesting. I would love to hear about your personal experiences.
Houman

Chester

30th September 2014, 02:35

Sorry, I have had to delete this post.

...

Too bad, it was quite interesting. I would love to hear about your personal experiences.
Houman

I have been away and am sad I missed sms' post.

Houman

10th October 2014, 06:13

Anna Breytenbach, on animal communication...

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http://vimeo.com/94709579

Limor Wolf

10th October 2014, 06:52

Diabolo became Spirit

Timely. And very well understood. Thank you, Houman ~

Houman

10th October 2014, 17:25

Diabolo became Spirit

Timely. And very well understood. Thank you, Houman ~

The full video is at
http://vimeo.com/94709579

Jean-Luc

10th October 2014, 17:49

Diabolo became Spirit

Timely. And very well understood. Thank you, Houman ~

Yes indeed. Powerfull.

spiritwind

10th October 2014, 19:04

Diabolo became Spirit

Timely. And very well understood. Thank you, Houman ~

Yes indeed. Powerfull.

I agree. Powerful indeed. Thank you for this, Houman.

Pris

11th October 2014, 02:40

Diabolo became Spirit

Timely. And very well understood. Thank you, Houman ~

Yes indeed. Powerfull.

I agree. Powerful indeed. Thank you for this, Houman.

This brought tears to my eyes. Beautiful. From me too, thank you.

Houman

13th October 2014, 06:54

Lecture by Anna Breytenbach on "inter-species communication" via thoughts, intuition, feelings and mental images...

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spiritwind

13th October 2014, 15:52

I haven’t even watched this yet (above video) but hopefully it will be slow at work and I can watch it tonight. I am firmly in the camp of communicating with thoughts, words and pictures between many different kinds of beings, terrestrial or not. My experience has encouraged this approach. I now live out where there are many species all around us. We have moose, elk, bear, cougar, lynx, raccoon, coyotes, maybe even wolves. Many who have lived out here also have stories about Bigfoot sightings. Plus we keep seeing strange lights in the sky that are not drones, airplanes, stars, or satellites. They move around in little loop-de-loops kind of like a kid playing with an etch-a-sketch.

When I share this with others, they mostly respond with “aren’t you afraid?”. Strangely, I do not feel fearful. We also have a small herd of goats. I figure if something really wanted to mess with us we are already sitting ducks (although I do put the goats in the barn at night). So, I just broadcast my intentions and send out pictures and thoughts to the various beings. We even had something come roaring through the woods a few nights ago that had all the animals in the surrounding area quite excited. A lot of speculation, but other than branches broken, there were no identifying foot prints. My friend whose property we are staying on is wondering why there is more activity since we have been here. I really don’t know, but it does seem to follow us wherever we go.

Every day I broadcast my intention to live peacefully with all life. No way to tell for sure if this makes a difference, but I believe it does. I could tell many stories, not as dramatic as the one about Spirit, but pretty amazing non-the-less.

I am looking forward to something good to watch tonight.

Pris

13th October 2014, 17:52

Plus we keep seeing strange lights in the sky that are not drones, airplanes, stars, or satellites. They move around in little loop-de-loops kind of like a kid playing with an etch-a-sketch.

Lol! This is exactly what I saw once a few years back standing on my balcony looking up at the night sky -- a loop-de-loop. There were these two little 'stars' that moved towards each other, did a tight loop-de-doop, and then zoomed off in opposite directions. Pretty freakin' cool! :cool:

Houman

16th October 2014, 20:53

Effects of nutritional imbalances on the brain (10 parts, this is no 7)

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Chester

18th October 2014, 03:37

Well... the animal I encountered wasn't named Diabolo... he is named Hendrix (yes... as in Jimmy) - He laid a lick down on my right calf. It was quite a metaphysical experience. It happened just two days after I watched the full length Vimeo video of the Animal Communicator - the bite occurred on Wednesday, October 15th.

This is the dog type - Presa Canario

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perro_de_Presa_Canario

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This is what I get for thinking Hendrix understood my benevolence.

View from on top of my calf -

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View from underneath my calf -

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It was strange too, as Hendrix simply - all 120 pounds of him - bit and held. It was even stranger when I bent down to open his jaws which came open easily. It was strangest when I felt a few of his fangs slowly extracted from my flesh and muscle.

My friend (who had obtained Hendrix as a guard dog since she was robbed at gunpoint a year or so ago in her home) was incredibly embarrassed. I told her it was ok and that she is fortunate this happened with me as I held no anger towards Hendrix nor my friend.

I then "communicated" with Hendrix. He was jealous of the attention my friend gave me for the hour or so just prior to his "communication" to me (in the form of his bite). He also had been trained in an abusive way by the folks who had him prior to his joining my friend and his response was in relation to the anger he still holds from his early life experience.

I recall when Jurg Olsen of the Jukani Wildlife Sanctuary spoke of when Spirit had sent him to the hospital for a week and feel fortunate I experienced only one bite. Again... the most amazing part is when I reached down to open his mouth and he released me in the strangest way... almost as if he partially regretted what he had just done.

Chester

28th October 2014, 00:21

I had to edit away this video as though I share some of the views... the underlying dynamic which John Lash suggests is not a paradigm I wish to promote nor within which I care to participate.

Houman

3rd November 2014, 04:09

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christian

15th November 2014, 22:34

Toy wand has hidden picture of demonic child cutting herself with a knife

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Pris

15th November 2014, 23:31

Toy wand has hidden picture of demonic child cutting herself with a knife

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Whoa... that's disturbing. :shocked:

It's amazing what they'll try to get away with. I'd like to know who is behind the manufacture of that thing.

TargeT

15th November 2014, 23:40

Toy wand has hidden picture of demonic child cutting herself with a knife

it says "Evil stick" I think that must be a Halloween item or something?

definitely a strange product

probably just some wierd asain import, they have some strange ideas on toys, here's a break down:
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palm13

23rd November 2014, 18:25

Chester

24th November 2014, 15:15

Dear maurice

THIS IS THE MESSAGE TO MAURICE ( I KNOW YOU WILL FIND IT)
ive experienced heavy lizard attack in last 3 years. that has thrown me into spiritual highway and made me really strong and knowledgeable.
yesterday I read Maarit interview on Horus Ra entity and found similarities in my case (on Eve Lorgen site) And that got me thinking - are lizards that bad? what if we need each other to grow? what if their negativity helped me to gain, and I could help them to grow? After all they are also souls experiencing life at the moment. it reminds me a lot OBAMA-JOAN RIVERS case. Where Joan said that Obama is gay and Michelle is tranny (what she really said to our higher self was "YOU ARE NOT YOUR BODY"). And then she was dead after one month - which could be Obamas response to our higher self: THERE IS NO DEATH. and a letter Obama wrote to Joans daughter (word by word): "Not only did she make us laugh, she made us think. That's one of those things that people now are realizing." I find that fantastic game played between higher souls.
I have compassion for lizards and Horus Ra. Shouldnt I?

For me, your post here is fascinating as I have come to the same question myself. You (psalm13) won't know this unless you had a month to read this thread, but I found this thread on April 26, 2012 and the finding of it pulled me right out of a massive, 2.5 month long "dark night of the soul" style depression. The "voice" I had been hearing in my head that I had thought was "God" yet that had told me in different conversations it was associated with Horus and Ra and that had implanted (since I was 6 years old) a "savior complex" into me may actually have been a "horus-ra" entity.

Yet now... 2 1/2 years later, I have come to look upon my life experience with this "energetic being" much differently than I did the day I found this thread and began research.

My view now is what I have to label as a Gnostic Jungian view.

If interested... I explain all this in this thread -

How I Have Interpreted the Gnostic Creation Myth and how I Apply This in my Life as a Solution (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77190-How-I-Have-Interpreted-the-Gnostic-Creation-Myth-and-how-I-Apply-This-in-my-Life-as-a-Solution)

naste.de.lumina

5th December 2014, 12:16

Fascinating Subject, difficult to prove by 'rumors' from a third party such as Karen provides, imo, but would have been great if could be backed up by science/Archeology somehow, and get a viable link to people who live today which share the same DNA.

Klaus Dona was talking about the elongated skulls interviewed by Bill Ryan in 2010, Bill was making an interesting comment on present day Annunaki and the size of their jaw (not quite their cone head)

From 03:20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cie6AaT9RGs

Perhaps this is the physical link that connects the coneheads with the current nobility / elite. Many questions can be answered with this narrative.

The House of Este was a family of Italian nobility, who held the title Duke of Modena. They are the ancestors of many royal houses.

British royalty

All British monarchs since George I of the United Kingdom have been descended from the House of Este. George's father, Ernst August, was a member of the house of Welf, who are descended from the House of Este.

Also, the Jacobite "pretenders" James Francis Edward Stuart, Charles Edward Stuart and Henry Benedict Stuart were descended from the House of Este. This was due to the mother of James Francis Edward, a Modenese princess, Mary Beatrice d'Este.

The following British consorts are also descendants of the House of Este-

Queen Mary Beatrice (Mary Beatrice d'Este) (1658- 1718), the wife of James II of England, who was also James VII of Scotland (reigned 1685- 1688).

Queen Caroline (Caroline of Brunswick) (1768- 1820), the wife of George IV of the United Kingdom(reigned 1820- 1830), as her mother was the sister of George III of the United Kingdom.

Queen Alexandra (Alexandra of Denmark) (1844- 1925), the wife of Edward VII of the United Kingdom (reigned 1901- 1910), as her mother's family, the German princely house of Hesse- Cassel, were descendants of George II of the United Kingdom.

Queen Mary (Mary of Teck) (1867- 1953), the wife of George V of the United Kingdom (reigned 1910- 1936, was the great- grand- daughter of George III.

Philip (b. 1921), the husband of the reigning queen, Elizabeth II (reigning since 1952) is a descendant of Queen Victoria's. Also, his grandfather was the brother of Queen Alexandra.

OtherEdit
As descendants of Queen Victoria, the royal families of Norway, Sweden, Spain (through the paternal grandmothers of the reigning kings), and Denmark (through the present queen's mother).
Source: http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_descendants_of_the_House_of_Este

Princess Ginevra d'Este - c. 1435-1445 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portrait_of_a_princess_%28Pisanello%29) - Louvre

http://www.perceptions.couk.com/imgs/Ginevra-d%27Este.jpg

Medal of Leonello d'Este (1441-44)
https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6089/6059304141_77231d244d_m.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6205/6059855534_459dcf8257_m.jpg

CONEHEAD SKULL FOUND IN FRANCE (PHOTO) (http://www.ecanadanow.com/science/2013/11/19/conehead-skull-found-in-france-photo/)

A 'coincidence' significant is that the tombs of coneheads invariably present aristocracy and wealth signals. We only find rich coneheads. The poor are always round heads. Royalty and coneheads seems to be an intimate connection.

Jovian

15th December 2014, 19:08

I’m just starting into this valuable thread, having read only the past ten pages or so. I was initially directed from an outside link that pointed to replies in this thread, regarding Van Duyn’s “reaching out” to Springmeier.

On one hand, I do appreciate Springmeier’s approach—that in respecting and not judging, you can make connection. I get it, I do. This is the way we are now realizing we can make efficient and effective progress. Love heals all wounds. Here we are, able to dissect William’s words and character, because of the groundwork Fritz has laid.

As others have stated, though, there are still all kinds of crappy, unspeakable things happening that are attributable to the type of mindset that the participants in this “Illuminati” have perpetuated and prospered from, for ages, whether or not their hands are the ones that actually perpetrate the dirtiest deeds. Those members who have some kind of conscience accessible within themselves need to be shaken into awareness in order to make real shifts. We’ve heard stories of other supposed insiders wanting to help shift things…I suspect there are a lot behind the scenes.

I can understand Limor’s cynicism, that this is possibly an empty gesture, and simply ‘throwing us a bone.’ If we are in the eleventh hour, and the “archons” believe they’ve got the game essentially in the bag now, then they indeed feel no threat in “externalizing the Hierarchy." They will finally simply control overtly, with ‘coneheads’ and scales visible, as in times past. ...Not that I think any of us should have to remain hidden, in a mutually respectful, cooperative society. :cantina:

As we know from Springmeier’s work, souls within the families are themselves highly programmed, just to be able to exist in their particular worldview and to accept the overlaying entities that they unconsciously allow to operate through them. Van Duyn’s B’berg meeting intro sounds simply like more of the same circuitous doublespeak that we have seen for generations from these players who think they have all the answers about how the “poor slobs” of this world need—and according to them, want—to be governed and directed. On the other hand, the ever-optimistic part of me I daresay senses the aspect of him that wants to identify and be in kinship with those they “govern.”

"Bilderberg is no conspiracy, but people and conspiracists with their infantile fantasies see it as such. None of you, and I don’t care how powerful you are, sit around the table in a dark room, holding hands, staring at a crystal ball, planning the world´s future."

He is just another unwitting puppet himself, if he has been programmed to remain unaware of what’s really going on. If so, these types are the ones who need to educate themselves, as to what is really going on behind the curtain. Obviously, they didn’t have dark enough consciences to be invited to be privy to the innermost circles of control.

In that way, I do feel for him. A soul who was told he was “a chosen one” and is playing his part, thinking he’s part of a special, elect group. Managed and manipulated in untold ways since birth. Stuck in his role for this lifetime, and how many others? :ballchain:

"No president, no king, no dictator, nor prime minister dares to criticize my name nor the Bilderbergers, and they know they are the puppets of the powerful Illuminati working from behind the scenes."

Well, the ego is clearly a vulnerable spot of entry here. Did Fritz find this in his graphology? I was also a “chosen one” in other times. Fat ego successfully hooked and given so-called power…. Funny how we all say the same things, when in that position. …But in such a hierarchical system, there is always some other power, pulling your strings. :hail:

I wonder what makes a spirit vulnerable to having this experience. Perhaps a sense of needing to feel special, because at their very core they feel like nothing inside? I had to do a lot of work to slough off that mindset myself, that I was entitled in this world, that I was exceptional for some reason, and to realize I was just another “powerless,” anonymous human this time around. Though they may be very long-lived, they are roles we are playing in this game--the awareness of which helps you gradually get in touch with your spirit—the part that truly carries on through time and space.

Now I am striving to be a truly free, sovereign soul, escaping all agreements made across time and space. Yes, a lot of work, but the only game worth playing right now.

"Human Mind Control. Human Minds affect the planet. This is how it is measured. It means immortality for the Soul of humankind. We are able to enjoy the universal principles. It allows people to innovate, to believe, and to harmonize the relation between man and nature."

Sounds like the usual tactic of acknowledging that hidden agendas of theirs are reaching common awareness in society, so they grab control and try to spin it. If he has read Fritz’s work, then he knows there is real torture being inflicted upon people, for generations—including hundreds and thousands of babies and children—in order to create controllable minds to do the bidding of the dark cabal seeking to engage the New World Order. I agree that we all have to take responsibility for our part in creating our realities, but this is no unfounded conspiracy. Victims who have escaped their programming are sharing the same stories, over and over.

I am thinking of Susan Ford’s (“Brice Taylor”) book, Thanks for the Memories, in which she explained how Kissinger seemed to endlessly marvel at the level that mind control technology was at, and at his own handiwork, in programming her ‘mind files’ to access during meetings, through the years; yet she said he didn’t seem to want to know about the dirtier aspects of torture and trauma that were required, in order to create this amazing "human robot."

Enjoying the perfect hamburger created from us ‘meatsacks,’ but not wanting to see the grotesque processes going on in the meat processing plant to create it. …The ends justify the means, right?

If we are to remain in this game for a while longer, is it indeed possible that we would see a wise and compassionate "ruling" class making true shifts in the way they play their part? If they are indeed doing their own inner work and self-examination as we are doing, we might have a chance.

The following is the final portion of a meditation that I’ve found useful, on ending all soul contracts and becoming a sovereign being. The full text can be found elsewhere on this site, posted by eaglespirit, who said it came from the “ELF Transmissions.”

Declare yourself to be a sovereign being, one that retains full rights and responsibilities, full power and authority over yourself and your reality, including and founded upon the principles of self-governance, self-responsibility, self-generating capacities, self-sustaining life force and self-correcting processes as you return back to wholeness and balance. A true sovereign being embodies and lives upon these principles, and honors the life force and equivalent foundational principles in all other beings, not projecting their power and authority outside of themselves and taking full responsibility for all their acts and deeds, thoughts and manifestations. Upon that foundation we become free and sovereign beings and can no longer be controlled by outside forces, and upon that foundation first our individual reality will begin to rearrange itself to accommodate this new found freedom, and then the larger whole will in turn begin to entrain itself around the center point of such higher organizing principles as we come more fully into ourselves.

Know thyself and to thine own Self be True. :wizard:

Houman

16th December 2014, 02:57

Which one came first? A morally immature/degenerate society or a morally immature/degenerate leadership? One thing is for sure, moral degeneracy/immaturity, lack of courage, lack of empathy, true caring is what has allowed them to gain access to power/leadership and preserve it. They thrive on it! They know that cognitively dissonant people entertained to death with the mundane will progressively lose the ability to "truly care" and will progressively descend into an abyss of total corruption where humans are transformed into demons.

Jovian

19th December 2014, 01:49

In the interest of understanding the ‘enemy,’ or at least the minions of the enemy, there was a strange, fascinating message board that existed between 2004 and 2006, that purported to be a reptilian forum, the "Lizard Command Center."

It existed as reptileagenda.com. In it, “they” did exhibit quite an inhuman perspective. It seemed to be an outlet for banter and inside joking about all the ways the wool was being pulled over our (humankind's) eyes.

Even the site name seemed an example of "hiding in plain sight," as well as making fun, in that there does exist a similarly-named site called reptilianagenda.com that seeks to present evidence of reptilian manipulation.

There were a handful of ‘reptilian’ participants there, often with avatars of known people from our culture, or cartoonish images of reptiles.

It seems clear that they realized it would be discounted as absurd and the handiwork of nothing but clever human pranksters. They can indeed be rather funny.

I have remembered and thought about it occasionally through the years. It is still visible through archive.org.

http://web.archive.org/web/20040929105420/http://www.reptileagenda.com/

Some sample threads...

Here, member “Sasser” gloats about a computer virus he claims he was responsible for. Indeed, the young man who was ultimately held responsible for this virus at the time named the virus Sasser. (EDIT: To clarify, this doesn't necessarily mean causation, as the entity named Sasser first posted on the board after the virus became public.)

With all the in-fighting going on today on the board, I thought I'd cheer y'all up with some happy news of what I've been up to.

Namely, my unwavering, one-lizard cyber assault on the fleshbags.

Um...I'd stay off the microsoft websites, if I were you, though. Cyber viruses aren't too bright and I wouldn't want one of the Elders getting infected by mistake!

That's all I got.
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Sasser Frzssst
Draconian disciple

"Dreams can come true ... if you only believe!

Here, one member posts about the death of Reagan, followed by some replies:

Our heartfelt condolences go out to the remaining family members of a truly great humanoid. A true Prince among fleshbags.

Through him, we were able to advance our plans more efficiently and faster than previously thought possible. The glory he has brought us is astronomical. I am sorry that it was his time, but his last act shall further embolden us, as the meatlings will certainly canonize him and in so doing, further our agenda.

May he seek the rest he deserves.

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Ganttth Stttet
High Priest of Norr

Yes, this was one mammal who really knew how to stroke some tail. We fondly remember the day he advised me against repairing the Gorbachev suit---"just say it's a birthmark." Ha, he sure knew his humans!

Of course, Our conversations grew less entertaining after We ate his brain, but We simply could not resist. Ahhh, the taste of obedience.

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Krizzgach hames ssstrolzh!

Ssstrolzh!

First, we have decided to maximize on the popularity of and sympathy for our most successful and loyal pawn. His "death" will be announced at the proper time as to heighten humanoid emotions, foster sympathy for the current regime, and further divide the common chattel. Plan for a summer humanoid funeral ceremony, followed by an appropriately garish tribute at the Republican National Convention.

Second, my very visible skin-suit profile may become detrimental to our cause. Should that occur, the appropriate measures will be taken and I will take a less public role. However, fear not. No matter what we have reported in our liberal Zionist "media," I will not truly go anywhere. All change will be cosmetic ONLY. There was some confusion last time around, and we want to avoid that this grzzzle.

In regards to the impending, pre-determined "election," I understand there may be some confusion, so let me address some concerns. Remember, no matter what you read or what is reported, all is progressing according to Herod's will. Current events force us to remain somewhat flexible in our plans regarding the humanoid election cycle to determine the "presidential" figurehead, but do not forget: this is why BOTH candidates remain in our thrall. So, no matter what your feelings are on the matter, please just remain patient and remember that we are all on the same team.

As always, we thank you all for your vigilance, your determination, and your loyalty. Herod remains very proud of the work that you do and asks that you stay focused in the coming d&xxz^zas.

Drkkkkle Chrzzzzlte [This member used a snarling Dick Cheney photo as avatar –Jovian]

Another post around the 4th of July:

First, mazel tov on another successful grzzzzle of "Independence"! Hahaha. Shower them with beer, loud noises, and bright, colorful explosions, and the flesh bags will believe anything.

Second, mazel tov to Agent 82 C on successfully revealing our vice presidential selection for your campaign. It was a nice touch to pre-print the signs. [Link under Agent 82C is to John Kerry article. – Jovian]

That is all.
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Ganttth Stttet
High Priest of Norr

Lizards RULE!

Tell me about it. I can't believe nobody noticed how badly the skin suit fit me while I sang with the Pops. I guess I put on a little in the middle over the past ten years, but I thought I would be found out for sure.

Not that I was scared of a half million humans, mind you, that's hatchling's play. But who wants to create an incident when you don't need to? Oy, they're dumb.

Might as well jump,
Szzzzzecky
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Szzzzzecky Green [A la Shecky Green, the comedian – Jovian]

Another post, from Agent NYY#1:

I hope my masters enjoyed the past week of watching their genetic manipulation pay off over our enemies in grey. May it be written that the 26th world series championship shall bring final victory for you all.

Thank you for sparing Derek Jeter's beautiful face.
George S.
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Start spreading the news....

Agent NYY#1 [Avatar is George Steinbrenner – Jovian]

I know you all know this already, but I've been getting a lot of traffic lately on this particular topic on my snopes site, so I just wanted to remind everyone:

Aspartame is totally NOT safe and is a very potent weapon which has been used to great effect against the humanoid interlopers. Just like flouride.

Just remember, despite what we have our Zionist doctors and scientists say, aspartame ain't kosher!

peace y'all!
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Sasser Frzssst
Draconian disciple

Tell me about it! I once ate a human who used aspertame, and boy were his arms tired! AWOOOGA!

But seriously, what is the rule with eating the aspertame infected? Can we simply spit out the lesions, or should we avoid them altogether? If that's the case, I humbly recommend that we double up the Atlantis breeding program, because the way this is catching on we'll be out of surface dwellers to eat by next Yom Ha Chachazzzr^^gl.

Please take no offense.
Szzzzzzecky
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Szzzzzecky Green

What's green, scaly, and is gonna whoop some Grey ass...if they have asses?

US!

I got a million of 'em!

Here, member "Lsssphtmm Thhhhhshlp" links to Eve Lorgen’s site, and photo. (Ironically, this is where I first heard of Eve):

Damned if there's something that I vaguely remember about this one. Still, Alien Love Bite?? ROTFLMAO! Szzzzzecky?
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Webmaster for the NWO
Recording Secretary of the Kylie Minogue Fan Club

I pose a question to you, my brethren.

Obviously, the true nature of reality is dependent upon the words that create it, which is why only we understand the true power of language ... but that is not the purpose of this post.

My query is this:

Why do the inferior races perpetuate the power of words by focusing so much energy on the word itself, and not the meaning behind the word? Do they not understand that their obsession with words in fact advances our reptillian purposes, and further divides the fleshbags, making them ripe for culling? Perhaps this is truly why they are inferior. For they do not understad their inferiority. Perhaps they are upset because they truly know they are inferior. Of course, all humans are inferior to lizards. So the point is moot. We say whatever we wish because we rule the earth and soon the meatbags will be culled.

This has been a rhetorical exercise, but feedback is welcome. Dissenting opinions will, of course, be ignored.

That is all.
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Ganttth Stttet
High Priest of Norr

Lizards RULE!

Chester

25th December 2014, 01:07

In the past, Helve drew my attention to a few very interesting questions. One is the quite accepted "chakra system" (system suggests technology, no?) and the other is something mention by L. Ron Hubbard called "the R6 implant." I also recall that Truman Cash has tackled the R6 but I cannot recall if he removed it by that point. Truman also mentioned there is an additional implant I think he called "The Universal Implant."

Anyways, I was turned on to this video and in the past I had not aligned well with the being who is interviewed here. But we all grow and the being I experience in this video and the discussion he has with the being conducting the interview is fascinating and feels quite directly on target. In this conversation, George Kavasillas explores the subjects I mentioned above and I recommend folks give it a listen.

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The primary point I took from listening to this video is how critical it is that we access our true heart which seems to essentially be the portal to our true soul.

Chester

28th December 2014, 14:16

For Houman - Thank You for this thread.

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EDIT: Replaced version with one that works

Jovian

2nd January 2015, 21:18

Thank you, Justone. This is the first I've heard of George Kavassilas. I don't think I'm quite ready for the big conjunction he claims we are on the precipice of--still have some "equal and opposite reactions" in response to past actions in this realm to experience-- but his vision as shared in this video sounds fair enough.

George's biography page on his site tells a fascinating story:

http://www.ourjourneyhome.com.au/George-Kavassilas

After a lifetime of feeling more aware of "how things are" than others, and not quite feeling he fits in with the system here, and years of depression and sickness; and being in contact with benevolent as well as malevolent beings, including having abductions, through his life; he eventually believed his path was to share his experience and wisdom with the world. It was at this point that George had the experience in 2003 that he describes in the video.

HOWEVER, what followed was this...

"Even though george was exploited from a very young age by malevolent beings, after returning from this experience, he was targeted by a group calling themselves the Galactic Federation of Light (GFL). They intentionally took that experience away by screening his recall and twisting his memories. The reason for this was so that they could assimilate george into their structure and paradigm with the intention of using him to promote their propaganda. As a result, in July of 2004, george held a series of talks which was filmed and released to the public with george claiming to be a representative of the GFL. It took him several years of realisations and soul searching to re-connect to his true essence and memories of the actual experience which took place. The most difficult and challenging aspect for him was overcoming the internal divide that the GFL created not only between the heart and the head but also between the lower self and higher self. After achieving even more clarity, he felt that it was absolutely necessary to speak out, as humiliating as it was, and go public to admit that he had been manipulated. "

This is a remarkable account and courageous admission.

Though discussing the idea of "galactic friends" is still somewhat walking a tightrope for some, considering the duplicitous matrix we are in, I'd hope that most of us here are savvy enough at this point about the limited mirror of a "New Age" being offered by "false god" on this earth. Though, for some it is still a deep and vast hole, for sure. In my own quest, I’ve certainly started down many of the appealing paths that we can say make up the new age. I tend to view all my ventures and inquiries as part of my journey to the truth. In analyzing even the deluded nature of some of the paths and why I was drawn to them, I can understand better an aspect of myself

I would caution not to ignore that there are levels of participation within the game of the ‘false god’ entity beyond this earth plane that perhaps are more subtle. George himself mentions this particular energy is active throughout this universe. As well, even at the higher level of awareness of blending with one’s supposed ‘galactic family,’ we still have subtle levels of egoic and karmic motivations, as George mentions. He even mentions in the video of being aware that he still has screened memories.

George, despite all his previous experiences, still got duped by the "GFL." He seems to be remarkably willing to continue to give himself over to trust these non-physical experiences and perceptions with abandon. That point alone is somewhat alarming. On his website, he says "The Spiritual Hierarchy and Galactic Council of Light of which I am a part of is not the same as a group calling themselves the galactic federation of light." ...Well, at least we've cleared that up.

The aspect of channeling or otherwise obtaining "other-worldly" wisdom can be an especially tricky one, that reaches beyond the clearly old-hat programs of the Alice Bailey "Ascended Masters" and Great White Brotherhood bit. All good deceptions involve a good smattering of truth, and George's info seems to include a lot of the general knowledge that most of us already have at this point. Though, I thought that we might all realize by now that anything that includes a concept of "hierarchy" pretty much goes into the waste bin.

I mention all this in light of his claim in the video that “we are on the precipice of integrating and imploding all our dimensions.” He also has other bold assertions on his site, including some corrections to our currently "accepted versions" of history. I've got my own sense of "knowing" about history my "soul" has apparently been involved in, so if I claim he's deluded, then I may have to call myself deluded in some ways as well. I'm just not as willing to make proclamations that I have "THE Truth" about such significant things, based solely upon some "inner knowing" or "journeys to other realms" such as George does. This and George's making predictions, including timetables for future events, are clear red flags for George.

Despite his lucid, reasonable presentation in this video, there seems another persona that emerges in his website messages. And finally, seeing his true character emerge, in reading his arrogant exchanges in the "Notable Correspondence" section under the "Free Content" tab, has me perceiving him as eerily similar to other savvy modern gurus with some alluring information, yet with clear personality disturbances, such as Laura Knight-Jadczyk, (who runs around ironically accusing everyone else of being a sociopath with no soul).

Proclaimed on his homepage..

“The time of THE GREAT CHANGE is upon us, and is the outcome for those who embarked on a journey eons ago. All who have chosen to be here at this time are about to experience a transformation of a magnitude that few on Earth can currently comprehend, and of which multitudes in the Universe regard in the highest esteem – the transformation of our Divine Mother Earth and her Humanity into Beings of Light and Universal Creators.”

*Wow—sounds fantastic!* …I’d like to believe something like this is upon us. It is certainly not a new idea, among other ‘channeled’ materials. Clearly, most of us participating here at PA seem to feel we are in the important stages of “something.”

All of this--George's self-delusions included--still falls under the domain of valuable learning, in my perspective. I've had to edit this post severely, after reading George's site. Even at that, I think I've given him much more space here than he's worth. Though perhaps there is more to learn in evaluating his story. It is interesting for me to note that we can be taken in by someone who can present so well, and yet they are concealing such a different side. Even viewing other interviews of his, there is a different arrogant side that is clearly evident. I'd like to understand just what type of entity or force has these types by the throat such that they seem to refuse to see what they are "possessed" by. You'd think he'd have learned something, after the GFL debacle he describes.

So, Justone, I'd assert that there was a reason for your initial perception of not aligning with George.

Who knows…Maybe someday soon I’ll be sharing about my own encounters with my “galactic family” and a similarly hopeful message. For the moment, I've learned through years of backing myself out of this game that I've clearly been invested in it deeply, and for a long "time," and that there are layers upon layers to it. And perhaps for that reason I respect the savvy intelligence of the ‘false god’ side of the equation, that for now I am tending to err on the side of caution about my current ability to assert what future might lay beyond this incredible game.

Houman

18th January 2015, 12:32

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Limor Wolf

18th January 2015, 18:58

Illuminati infiltration of Christianity - A conversation between Fritz Springmeier and Timothy Alberino

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY-BPJXf-Vg

Some points from the interview :

* The Illuminati are satanic organisational structure

* Free masons are connected to the Illuminati

* Their agenda is of creation of one world religion

* The use of Hegelian language

* There is already a world government, the aim is to make it visible (By issuing WWIII)

* Infiltration of the church with witchcraft, masonic thoughts and philosophies.

* Billy Graham is a programmed multiple personality

* Lucifer is the high power behind Free masonry - (known to the 32nd degree masons)

* There is a confrontation coming to this planet (of a supernatural nature)

Seeker of Knowledge

19th January 2015, 09:49

I wanted to share this with you for the sake of discussion. This video is about George shapeshifting. Comments below the video are very interesting to say the least.

Eve Lorgen has been on the front lines for a very long time. She doesn't seek the lime light and never has. She is a true warrior.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gybd-ljoG8

Seeker of Knowledge

19th January 2015, 10:27

What I find very interesting about these "reptilian" posts are the spelling and grammar. Wiolawa knew this language. And how ours has been manipulated by them. Wiolawa has not been active on the net for awhile now, you can still find her research and info on line. She was probably the front runner to all this information, long before Icke and any others came along and they never even touched on it. There's more to this forum than meets the eye.

Nine

28th January 2015, 03:42

Christine

7th February 2015, 00:04

I think that the readers of this thread may be interested in attending this on line video conference!

Love Bite: A Dark Side of Cupid Roundtable
http://www.risemultiversity.org/love-bite-roundtable.html

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Limor Wolf

7th February 2015, 10:01

Limor,

Who funds Tim Alberino?

From the video you posted about the evangelicals...

The purist teaching of Jesus was to love ones enemies and the grand purpose of religion is to divide humanity so that only hate for the other is what's left!

There is no out group only humanity.

I believe that there is more to us and that we could be powerful creators instead of our constant victim hood!

Just an opinion...

Thanx

Nine

Hi Nine,

I certainly agree with your bottom line. I have no knowledge on how Tim Alberino is financing his broadcasts, but as long as the interview has the quality of information and the added value to it, it may be worthwhile listening (At least in my eyes)

I know that you have the 'inside' perspective on evengelical Christianity, and it is admirable when one examines their childhood bringing and conditioning they were brought up with. Personally I believe that distortion to the teaching of Jesus is well embedded both in the church and with the Luciferians, as it is continually strengthening and stabilizing the constant tug of war between those two seemingly 'ends'. While in reality (even with our blinders on we can still figure that out) creation is Niether Or, it contains the flow of every type of energy and is not condemning one way or the other, However, some good bounderies still needs to be defined.

An interesting question to ask is, who gave humanity the sacred texts and scriptures, and why there is such an eagerness now to play the 'Revelation' games, with all that it involves..

Is the real choice exists only between 'holier than thou', or 'rot in hell'.. these two seem to be the dualistic options we were mostly presented with on this planet (by whom, cui bono..), either via religion or via new age etc.(even science seems to be following one of those paths nowadays) and both are restricted in their own right, Imo, and leads towards servitude. While the third option (and fourth and fifth, there should be no limit) is embodied with Consciousness, that has no walls of definitions and which broadens the mind and spheres of existance into much grander unexplored fields where Creation ('godness') and the self-responsibility connected to it are within someone's inherent capability, rather than with someone or something outside of it.

Jesus (who represents consciousness) apparently knew that

~ Limor

Nine

8th February 2015, 07:00

Limor,

I am still in the evangelical church due to family obligations and so I do understand them but however, love to an evangelical is so very conditional. To them loving ones enemy is about an enemy who is a fellow christian and not about love for humanity in general.

In the Alberino video he only talked about the take over of evangelicalism by the Illuminati only in terms of the weakening of the fundamentals of the Christian faith...whatever those are which seem to change generationaly. The video itself was a way of trapping a fundamentalist in his thinking and to not ever consider another perspective spiritually speaking and so it is a trap even though telling much truth and so it is more "in group" and "out group" thinking with the in group reaping the benefits of church life and the out group cast out hence the saved or the unsaved and so on. As spies say that is a limited hang out....

Limor, humanity is on the brink of either destruction or great abundance and so I guess the choice is ours and so I am trying as best I can to look at faith in a much broader and more inclusive way or put another way to include all humans as part of that fabulous in group!

I see much ideology on Avalon as at church or social situations and I believe loving ones enemies means reaching out to the out group or to the lost and to bring them back and of course love is what Jesus taught as a great and possibly the greatest spiritual master!

If the zero point field is the God-head and is in fact divine then good and evil would have a very different meaning and so thinking in other terms and thinking above ones ideology to a greater good for all humanity is IMO true spirituality and of course just an opinion...

Here is just one more humble opinion...they play the revelation games because their true! True in that humanity might not be a sentient species and the end might truly be near but of course I am of the opinion that folks will wake up but if not life does certainly go on!

I believe that this thread and the Frazier thread are simply tied together and energy itself is the bigger issue....

thanx

Nine

Houman

21st February 2015, 07:37

This post has been deleted, due to a DCMA take down notice delivered on 7 April 2015 to our web hosting provider, Singlehop, on the grounds that it contained "CHILDREN'S DATA & PRIVATE DATA".

Limor Wolf

21st February 2015, 08:33

Incredbly difficult to watch, incredibly important to do so.. I will pass this on. Things have gone beyond a guinea pig level to a very dliberate mutilation of human beings, innocent children included. Silent prayers of healing and strength is sent to these beautiful childern who desreve nothing more than a healthy and firm basis for life for it to abundantly grow from. We all deserve it.

Anger is a justified emotion when viewing these pictures and seeing the casualties

Taking self responsibility and informing, is hopefully the right conclusion.

Houman

23rd February 2015, 17:04

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Houman

23rd February 2015, 17:04

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Houman

23rd February 2015, 17:09

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Houman

28th February 2015, 23:38

Daniel Dennett on the evolution of belief and the emergence of religious behavior
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Nine

1st March 2015, 07:25

Dear Houman,

On your posted video in your last post you ask is religion man made?

And of course the answer is that it was man corrupted for sure and of course I believe that there was a real Jesus and that his teachings caused much mayhem in the middle east of his day much as of today and of course I can not invest an hour plus of my time with your video I am so sorry to say and yet I would love to watch it but I believe that a bigger issue exists other than organized religion which is a grave threat to humanity....

You know that I think that American evangelicals are supper crazy yet I am married to one...should one divorce over such absurdity?

Or should one love as Christ loved his church willing to lay his life down for the other and of course this is historical Christian theology that has been lost upon our American culture and replaced with what...the love of war....

I have chosen the path of love for the other and so I picked a local evangelical church to attend...they are of course demonized as heretics who have left the faith ....my kind of folks....
They have a cool coffee shop and let one sip their coffee during church service...my only comment to make the experience better would be if they had a full open bar...as it were...

As the battles rage in the middle east with the endless wars many evangelicals are simply waking up to the fact that all is not as they have been told and the all is that our own American government has sponsored a monstrous program of genocide in the middle east in order to secure those last drops of easy oil and of course the science says that this is so for anyone that I would listen to any who...

The sermon I heard tonight was about both willfulness and willingness and an examination of the life of Moses as a moral leader as crazy as that sounds...

And the bottom line was that if we are willful we are in service to self and if willing we are in service to the other and that was a very enlightened message for any evangelical church....

And so Jesus said to love ones enemies....and so from an evangelical stand point one must be confused since we have the saved and the unsaved and one must always ask who is the enemy that one is to love?

I am extremely hopeful for the future....

thanx...

Nine

Houman

1st March 2015, 17:45

Hi Nine,
I found his talk and analogies interesting. Spirituality and (organized) Religion could, and perhaps should, be seen as two different phenomena. It would seem to me that one emerges from inner understanding/perception (and surfaces as moral/intellectual elevation and true intent) and the other progresses from the outside-in and creates (possibly destructive) automated (non)thinking patterns and could be manipulated as a powerful form of herding.
This is not a criticism of the figure of Jesus Christ (who, "incidentally", had some very harsh words about teachers of religious law...)
Houman

Limor Wolf

1st March 2015, 18:14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSdA9kJ8pUY

Houman

1st March 2015, 22:18

1 more week...

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/15-16/bill/sen/sb_0251-0300/sb_277_bill_20150219_introduced.htm

Senate BillNo. 277
Introduced by Senators Pan and Allen
(Principal coauthor: Assembly Member Gonzalez)
(Coauthors: Senators Beall, Block, De León, Hall, Hertzberg, Hill, Jackson, Leno, McGuire, Mitchell, Stone, Wieckowski, and Wolk)
(Coauthors: Assembly Members Baker, Chiu, Cooper, Low, McCarty, Nazarian, Rendon, Mark Stone, and Wood)
February 19, 2015
An act to add Section 48980.5 to the Education Code, and to amend Section 120325 of, and to repeal and add Section 120365 of, the Health and Safety Code, relating to public health.
LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL’S DIGEST

SB 277, as introduced, Pan. Public health: vaccinations.

(1) Existing law prohibits the governing authority of a school or other institution from unconditionally admitting any person as a pupil of any public or private elementary or secondary school, child care center, day nursery, nursery school, family day care home, or development center, unless prior to his or her admission to that institution he or she has been fully immunized against various diseases, including measles, mumps, and pertussis, subject to any specific age criteria. Existing law authorizes an exemption from those provisions for medical reasons or because of personal beliefs, if specified forms are submitted to the governing authority.

This bill would eliminate the exemption from immunization based upon personal beliefs. The bill would make conforming changes to related provisions.

(2) Existing law requires the governing board of a school district, at the beginning of the first semester or quarter of the regular school term, to make certain notifications to parents or guardians of minor pupils including, among others, specified rights and responsibilities of a parent or guardian and specified school district policies and procedures.

This bill would require the governing board of a school district to also include in the notifications provided to parents or guardians of minor pupils at the beginning of the regular school term the immunization rates for the school in which a pupil is enrolled for each required immunization. By requiring school districts to notify parents or guardians of school immunization rates, the bill would impose a state-mandated local program.

(3) The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that reimbursement.

This bill would provide that, if the Commission on State Mandates determines that the bill contains costs mandated by the state, reimbursement for those costs shall be made pursuant to these statutory provisions.

Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: yes. State-mandated local program: yes.

The people of the State of California do enact as follows:
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SECTION 1.

Section 48980.5 is added to the Education Code,
2to read:
3
48980.5.

The notification required pursuant to Section 48980
4shall also include the immunization rates for the school in which
5a pupil is enrolled for each of the immunizations required pursuant
6to Section 120335 of the Health and Safety Code.
7
SEC. 2.

Section 120325 of the Health and Safety Code is
8amended to read:
9
120325.

In enacting this chapter, but excluding Section 120380,
10and in enacting Sections 120400, 120405, 120410, and 120415, it
11is the intent of the Legislature to provide:

12(a) A means for the eventual achievement of total immunization
13of appropriate age groups against the following childhood diseases:

14(1) Diphtheria.

15(2) Hepatitis B.

16(3) Haemophilus influenzae type b.

17(4) Measles.

18(5) Mumps.

19(6) Pertussis (whooping cough).

P3 1(7) Poliomyelitis.

2(8) Rubella.

3(9) Tetanus.

4(10) Varicella (chickenpox).

5(11) Any other disease deemed appropriate by the department,
6taking into consideration the recommendations of the Advisory
7Committee on Immunization Practices of the United States
8Department of Health and Human Services, the American Academy
9of Pediatrics, and the American Academy of Family Physicians.

10(b) That the persons required to be immunized be allowed to
11obtain immunizations from whatever medical source they so desire,
12subject only to the condition that the immunization be performed
13in accordance with the regulations of the department and that a
14record of the immunization is made in accordance with the
15regulations.

16(c) Exemptions from immunization for medical reasonsbegin delete or
17because of personal beliefsend delete.

18(d) For the keeping of adequate records of immunization so that
19health departments, schools, and other institutions, parents or
20guardians, and the persons immunized will be able to ascertain
21that a child is fully or only partially immunized, and so that
22appropriate public agencies will be able to ascertain the
23immunization needs of groups of children in schools or other
24institutions.

25(e) Incentives to public health authorities to design innovative
26and creative programs that will promote and achieve full and timely
27immunization of children.
28
SEC. 3.

Section 120365 of the Health and Safety Code is
29repealed.
begin delete
30
120365.

Section 120365 is added to the Health and Safety Code,
16to read:
17
120365.

(a) Immunization of a person shall not be required
18for admission to a school or other institution listed in Section
19120335 if the parent or guardian or adult who has assumed
20responsibility for his or her care and custody in the case of a minor,
21or the person seeking admission if an emancipated minor, files
22with the governing authority a letter or affidavit that documents
23which immunizations required by Section 120355 have been given
24and which immunizations have not been given pursuant to an
25exemption from immunization for medical reasons.

26(b) When there is good cause to believe that the person has been
27exposed to one of the communicable diseases listed in subdivision
28(a) of Section 120325, that person may be temporarily excluded
29from the school or institution until the local health officer is
30satisfied that the person is no longer at risk of developing the
31disease.
32
SEC. 5.

If the Commission on State Mandates determines that
33this act contains costs mandated by the state, reimbursement to
34local agencies and school districts for those costs shall be made
35pursuant to Part 7 (commencing with Section 17500) of Division
364 of Title 2 of the Government Code.

CORRECTIONS:

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Houman

9th March 2015, 05:05

MARK PASSIO
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Houman

11th March 2015, 21:00

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Mark Passio on Natrual Laws

Houman

15th March 2015, 05:23

"The end of all evil" by Jeremy Locke
http://api.ning.com/files/DGhaQe0o0DSznWf1fMIv37UiQ5B9*FDTYdFjPrdcGmzLxmE9NJz3-uNZT7vxt7WpFU7lGzLmojK5QDtG4NmNXK*MJMjPW3w8/EndofallEvil.pdf

http://api.ning.com/files/DGhaQe0o0DSznWf1fMIv37UiQ5B9*FDTYdFjPrdcGmzLxmE9NJz3-uNZT7vxt7WpFU7lGzLmojK5QDtG4NmNXK*MJMjPW3w8/EndofallEvil.pdf

arwen

16th March 2015, 19:33

Dear Houman,

I am fairly new to the forum (3 months old :) ), and Bill referred me to this thread. I am about halfway through, and I cannot thank you enough for this truly excellent presentation of the data, most of which I know to be true, and other parts, I learned a lot from. I am not complete with the thread yet, but wanted to post this short video, and to ask your opinion of it. Thank you again, so much for presenting this outstanding compilation, which weaves together the strands and builds a really clear picture of what we need to deal with, in order to truly improve life for all on this planet.

Former 32nd Degree Mason Bill Schnoebelen talks about the reason high-level Masons engage in ritual child abuse, mostly with boys:

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Houman

16th March 2015, 21:40

Hi Arwen,

Thanks for your post. Sadly this ritual abuse is going on, these people are actually posting
these things on Deepnet (the invisible portion of the net, and these include ritualized torture and murder).

I am not familiar with the “energy vampirism” and the “accessing of other dimensions” part of it, I only know that you don’t need abuse to “access” other dimensions, you are doing it when you are dreaming and the Monroe institute has been training people to do it using auditory stimuli of the brain (there is now increasing evidence that we are living in some computed reality so accessing is analogous to changing the data stream). The “living forever” part is another mind control BS (all of these people die as physical degenerates, Crowley included).

Houman

PS: According to Laurel Aston when some of these people are near the end they will go through a ritual where they will rape a young girl and have their own throat sliced at the moment of orgasm (believing that “their” soul will pass on the child being conceived)…

Sophocles

16th March 2015, 21:51

From the book «Occult Theocracy» (first printed in 1933) by Lady Queenborough (Edith Starr Miller), p. 575-576:

Calling himself «The Master Therion», Aleister Crowley is also known under the name of Frater Perdurabo and, from his own extravagant writings, we know that he looks upon himself as a reincarnation of Eliphas Levi etc. etc.

To give the reader a feeble idea of the perversion of the O.T.O. (Ordo Templi Orientis) we quote the following:

«The blood is the life. This simple statement is explained by the Hindus by saying that the blood is the principal vehicle of vital Prana. There is some ground for the belief that there is a definite substance, not isolated as yet, whose presence makes all the difference between live and dead matter.

It would be unwise to condemn as irrational the practice of those savages who tear the heart and liver from an adversary, and devour them while yet warm. In any case it was the theory of the ancient Magicians, that any living being is a storehouse of energy varying in quantity according to the size and health of the character. At the death of the animal this energy is liberated suddently.

The animal should therefore be killed within the Circle, or the Triangle, as the case may be, so that its energy cannot escape. An animal should be selected whose nature accords with that of the ceremony,- thus, by sacrificing a female lamb one would not obtain any appreciate quantity of the fierce energy useful to a Magician who was invoking Mars. In such a case a ram would be more suitable. And this ram should be virgin -the whole potential of its original total energy should not have been diminished in any way. For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim.

For evocations it would be more convenient to place the blood of the victim in the Triangle, the idea being that the spirit might obtain from the blood this subtle but physical substance which was the quintessence of its life in such a manner as to enable it to take on a visible and tangible shape.»

Link to the book: http://www.whale.to/c/occult-theocracy.pdf

Flash

16th March 2015, 23:26

Disgusting depravity

They seed their eternal misery.

I cannot even have pity

Houman

17th March 2015, 00:05

Mark Passio - Cosmic Abandonment
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arwen

17th March 2015, 10:09

Thank you Sophocles for that additional confirmation and link, which I have downloaded.

And thank you Houman, very much, for your reply. I completely agree that the belief that consuming anothers' anima will lead to life extension/immortality is total BS (if anything, it leads to the exact opposite!), and that we can easily access higher dimensions using a variety of clean technologies that do not entail stealing life force from others.

I just wanted to add that this belief is not only found in the Anglo-Euro-American dark occult groups, but is also widely prevalent in Africa, and here in South Africa. The so-called "muti murders (http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/muti-killings-is-a-way-of-life-in-rural-areas-1.470603#.VQf8KOHLq8g)" are widespread, as this article (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/africa-witchcraft-returns-to-haunt-new-south-africa-1139937.html) explains. I worked in government here for a while, a few years ago, for 10 years, and know that anyone challenging this practice is immediately labelled a "racist" for criticizing the ritual sacrifice of animals, children and adults, which they claim is integral to African Traditional culture.

Nothing could be further from the truth, and Credo Mutwa is one of the few lone testiments to the fact that this is not intrinsic to Traditional African culture, but is an additive that was inserted around the same time all these blood-thirsty "gods" and "goddesses" started appearing all over the world demanding blood, and inserting the falsehood that human blood and body parts, as well as ritual torture and sacrifice, could bestow magickal powers.

I'll stop there for now, and continue through this thread, which is one of the most important I have ever come across.

Sophocles

18th March 2015, 10:32

WOEIH 51 (WhatOnEarthIsHappening Podcast #51) The Occult Season of Sacrifice w/ Mark Passio - Full

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drneglector

25th March 2015, 18:55

Hello fellow Avalonians...

Lot of good links to Mark Passio here, good stuff!

Here is one more from Passio`s pod casts (pod cast #017).
Its the story of a victim of trauma based mind control, calling himself "Neo", who's from a multi generational satanic family. A family, on the mothers side, that goes thousands of years back to the old religion, the ancient mystery religion from Babylon. This is a callous and VERY DARK insight to what these sick people expose children to, told by Neo, who's been exposed to seven years of torture, ritual abuse and rape in his childhood.

Its the darkest story I ever heard and its not recommended for faint-hearted people!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eERXh89ViQ&index=17&list=PLOMeqiktComZUGgl49QWn2_h_QgCsOxHE

Here's the link to Passio`s homepage, the pod cast section, where you can download the actual interview on mp3 and the pictures that goes a long with it. All the pod casts are recommendable though.

http://www.whatonearthishappening.com/podcast?start=150

Houman

27th March 2015, 13:37

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You Might Just Be a Satanist – Mark Passio

Houman

27th March 2015, 15:35

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Mark Passio The Interference Of The Species (origins of government/religion/money)

arwen

5th April 2015, 21:59

A video with Sacha Stone, on the topic "From Satanism to Sovereignty", a fascinating discussion on how the very foundations of our society are built on energy-harvesting Satanism, and how we can move towards Sovereignty. Jay Parker is one of the guests, and he refers to Mark Passio as well.

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ThePythonicCow

7th April 2015, 20:15

As explained here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81361-Four-suppressed-posts-from-Houman-s-Horus-Ra-thread&p=950285&viewfull=1#post950285), the above four posts were deleted, due to a DCMA take down notice delivered on 7 April 2015 to our web hosting provider, Singlehop, on the grounds that they contained "CHILDREN'S DATA & PRIVATE DATA".

Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit -- Post #3135 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=935066&viewfull=1#post935066)
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danegeroussacredgeometry

18th April 2015, 19:07

Nag Hammadi Codices:
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html

“The Archons came to Adam. When they saw Eve talking to him they said to each other, ‘What sort of creature is this luminous woman?’ … Now come, let us lay hold of her and cast our seed into her, that she may become soiled and unable to access her inner light. Then those who she bears will be under our charge… But Eve, being a free power, laughed at their decision. She put mist in their eyes [and escaped them].” (The Origin of the World, 116)

Thank you for taking the time to put down all this information in an easily accessible and understandable way. I will spend a good deal of time researching all this!

Houman

25th April 2015, 05:35

California's SB277 mandatory vaccination bill passes Senate committee after votes rigged, public testimony silenced
http://www.naturalnews.com/049449_SB277_California_Senate_mandatory_vaccination.html#ixzz3YID1Xdu6

http://topnews.in/health/files/Chicken-Vaccines-Mutate.jpg

Houman

25th April 2015, 22:26

Where is the data demonstrating to so called "safety" of vaccines? Well at the Vaccine Sadety Datalink (VSD)
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Activities/vsd/accessing-data.html
Is the database open for anyone to look into?
Nope, it is considered restricted data http://www.cdc.gov/rdc/ (even access to just raw numbers without identifications is restricted, so much for transparent science...)

How do you access it? It is based on a 3 step process

1 Submisson of proposals to NCHS RDC
2 Submission of proposal to VSD participating sites Institutional Review Boards (IRBs)
3 Access of VSD data

This is for the old data (before the "epidemic" of neuro-degenerative diseases in children)... how do you access the new one? well according to
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Activities/vsd/data-sharing-guidelines.html

"Please note: data for new vaccine safety studies are available only through December 31, 2000. Therefore, the RDC will not accept proposals requesting VSD data after December 31, 2000, for new vaccine safety studies. Access to VSD sites’ data after December 31, 2000 for new vaccine safety studies may be accessed through establishing a formal collaboration with the VSD site(s); however, such collaboration is at the discretion of the VSD site and outside the scope of the RDC data sharing program and CDC authority. "

So much for transparent science... and undeniable proof...

Houman

26th April 2015, 05:29

From The End of All Evil by Jeremy Locke

Democratic culture teaches the rule of law. It teaches that law
created by majority rule is morality. Any law, any demand, any
punishment is moral when implemented by the majority.
Perversions of democracy such as democratic republics and
super-majorities are no different. Any law able to be passed by
representative, majority, super-majority or any other group
becomes morality.
If you can convince 50% of a people to enslave themselves or
their neighbors, is it moral? If you can convince 66%, 75%, 99%
or everyone, is it morality? The affliction of law is a game to
evil. Evil seeks control over people in order to destroy their
worth. It does not care who enslaves whom, or why.
There is no morality in law. Democratic teaching says that as
soon as the legal voting block approves a law, it is right and
proper to inflict it upon a people. Why should the destruction of
your freedom be acceptable just because someone else says so?
Does evil become righteous when more people desire it? Would
evil be righteous if all people desire it? Tyranny by one king is
the same as tyranny by a hundred million kings. It is the nature
of compulsion in law that is evil; how the law is achieved is
meaningless.
Hiding tyranny in the constructs of representative government
and majority rule is commonplace in our modern world. After so
many millennia of royalty and warlords, people have learned to
see some of the evil in tyranny. Thousands of years were
required to discard the notion of nobility and divine right of rule.
Today many in the world have an understanding that there is no
birthright to rule over others as a king. But the deviousness of
evil has pushed that burden upon individual concepts, instead of
upon itself. Evil teaches modern peoples that royalty and
dictators were a mistake, but that submission to your neighbors
is right.
In early US history, the majority allowed the enslaving and
systematic dehumanization of Africans. Did the law of democracy moralize slavery? Theories such as “majority rule”
are inherently evil. Evil would have you believe that evil is
good, and that freedom is anarchy.
From the position of a free individual, it is horrendous to
watch members of a democracy not only swallow the “rule of
law” as inflicted in all manner and form upon their lives, but
also to witness the selfsame victims inflict differing versions of
morality upon their neighbors.
Some people believe that democracies are a safe and proper
form of government since the majority of people are decent.
They believe that the majority will set proper rules for the
minority. This belief teaches two lies. First, that there is nobility
in law; that it is right to force the minority to obey. Second, that
the minority, if left to themselves, will destroy the lives of
everyone else. The minority are controlled and forced by a
system of police and law to conform to the correct manner of
behavior defined as crime. None of this has anything to do with
defending the liberty of the majority. It is about controlling the
minority. It is about conditioning the majority to the taste of evil.
The thirst for power over others is the lure of democracy.

Houman

26th April 2015, 05:36

From The End of All Evil by Jeremy Locke

Authority principle
The authority principle describes the behavior of people who
live under the rule of law. The authority principle shows that
people obey anything and anyone that they believe is an
authority. Though the who, the why and the what have changed
in history, the behavior of people is the same; they obey.
When people are taught that obedience is principle, they obey.
When they are taught that the source of worth and knowledge is
found in another person, rather than in themselves, they obey.
This is the rule of law, and it teaches people that their will is
subjective to the will of law and those who control the law.
Examples of authorities are governments, bullies, mafias,
thieves and kings. People obey authority in their lives either out
of fear of violence, or because culture conditions them to accept
obedience as proper and good. Authorities always use both tools.
The most successful authorities do not have to use violence as
often because of the strength of their cultures. Both culture and
violence enforce authority.
Under authority, people have obeyed law to the atrocities of
history. The murders, raping and looting under chieftains, kings,
emperors, communism and Nazis were not perpetuated by small
groups of men. They were performed by thousands and even
millions of peoples. These people would not have committed such egregious evils on their own. If a random person had
commanded them, they would have refused. So why, at the
behest of a perceived authority, do they obey?
Obedience to authority is the authority principle. People will
obey authority no matter what is asked of them. They obey
because they have been lied to. They have been falsely taught
that principle is found in law. In history, it is difficult to imagine
why some cultures are so much more violently depraved than
others. Authority is the reason. Cultures with the least influential
authority are the most peaceful, and by definition, the most free.
Cultures with the most influential authorities are the most
violent, and by definition, slaves.
Anytime you are compelled to act in obedience to authority,
you are being influenced by this principle. Evil uses the
authority principle to condition people to obey without
questioning what, why or whom they are obeying. Destroying
your identity to gain power over you is the modus operandi of
evil.

Houman

26th April 2015, 16:25

From http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/could-proposed-mandatory-vaccine-laws-survive-legal-challenges/

Could Proposed Mandatory Vaccine Laws Survive Legal Challenges?

As Health Impact News has recently reported, there is a national push to remove vaccine exemptions for school-aged children, and new laws and regulations are being proposed all across the U.S. for mandatory vaccinations.

Some of the rhetoric surrounding this push to get vaccine products more distribution in a declining market due to more people waking up to the dangers of vaccines, has bordered on the absurd. Arthur Caplan of the NYU Langone Medical Center, who seems to enjoy the limelight the pro-pharmacy mainstream media willing shines on him, recently made outrageous statements stating that parents of vaccinated children should sue parents who choose not to vaccinate their children if their vaccinated children end up getting sick. However, more sane voices of reason, such as George Annas, the Department Chair of Health Law and Bioethics at Boston University and bioethics at Boston University, and Sara Rosenbaum, a Health Law and Policy professor at George Washington University, have recently stated that such lawsuits are not ever likely to make their way into civil courts. (See: Why the Vaccine Debate Is Unlikely to Land in the Courtroom – ABC News.)

But what about public health policy? The “vaccines for everybody and force them if we have to” proponents like to quote a Supreme Court decision way back in 1905, Jacobson v. Massachusetts, in Cambridge, Massachusetts, where a certain segment of the population (excluding small children) were required to take a smallpox vaccine or pay a $5 fine, as a justification for mandating vaccinations against one’s will.

Much has changed since 1905, however. For one thing, WWII and the atrocities by the hands of medical doctors in Nazi Germany have occurred since then, and the Nuremberg tribunals and court trials which the United States played a prominent role used the Nuremberg Code. The Nuremberg Code disallowed experiments on human subjects without their full and informed consent.

Also, the status of vaccines and vaccine injuries in the U.S. legal system changed dramatically in 1986 with the passing of the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act. Congress gave legal immunity and protection to U.S. pharmaceutical companies who manufacture vaccines. Today, you can no longer sue the manufacturer of a vaccine if you are injured or if someone is killed by that product. You have to fight for compensation in a national Vaccine Court, which to date has paid out billions of dollars in damages, and yet probably only reflects a small percentage of the claims out there. (See: March 2015 Settlements in Vaccine Court: 117 Vaccine Injuries and Deaths.)

So what are the legal challenges to now legislating mandatory vaccinations to a population that no longer has the right to legal redress against the manufacturer of potentially faulty vaccine products that are known to maim and kill people? Is it Constitutional to remove the right to informed consent, and the right to refuse such a product if it is administered by force?

I asked Mary Holland, a research scholar and professor at NYU School of Law to address that question.

No forced Vaccination
Killing the Messenger: U.S. Vaccine Law and Policy

by Mary S. Holland
Health Impact News

Who likes bad news? Nobody, but most of us in our day-to-day lives can’t avoid it. Whether a family member has become ill or a friend has lost a job, we find out, and we have to deal with it.

Not so in U.S. vaccine law and policy. Vaccine injury denial or ‘killing the messenger’ is standard policy. Although touted as safe and effective, vaccines are legally actually “unavoidably unsafe,” like all prescription drugs. While the federal government acknowledges in theory that vaccines can cause injury and death, actual casualties have been neatly tucked under the rug, beyond the scrutiny of almost all courts, medicine and the media.

Law is not the only factor suppressing the truth of vaccine harm – money, media, medicine and politics have all played roles. But law is a central reason for what has gone wrong. Current attempts to strip away state vaccine exemption rights will only kill more messengers, both literally and figuratively.
Why are there Compulsory Vaccination Mandates if Vaccines are “Safe and Effective?”

Why do we have compulsory vaccination mandates in the first place? If vaccines are as safe and effective as we’re told, why aren’t market forces enough?

Refrigerators have certain risks, yet they are a boon to public health, and the overwhelming majority of people have them sans mandates. So too bathrooms and running water. So why are vaccines different? This is a question worth pondering when we think about the significance of opt out rights.
Herd Immunity: A Viable Theory to Justify Mandatory Vaccinations?

The standard comeback is that herd immunity requires as many subjects as possible to participate, and this is only possible with compulsion. The theory of herd immunity comes from naturally-acquired immunity, not vaccine-induced immunity, but it suggests that if the vast majority of people in a population are immune to a disease, then the disease cannot spread. Pro-vaccine advocates use the theory to justify universal vaccination mandates.

The problem with the theory is that it is indeed a theory, and there have been many, many disease outbreaks in highly-vaccinated populations, and even those with 100% uptake. When we see outbreaks like the recent measles case in Disneyland, there are likely other issues involved than simply those pesky unvaccinated children; there are likely problems with vaccine effectiveness, changing viral strains, or simply the reality that vaccines don’t work to achieve immunity in every person.
A Very Limited Legal History of Mandated Vaccines in the U.S.

But taking a step back, mandates started in the U.S. with smallpox epidemics. Smallpox was a deadly, airborne disease. States had different policies on whether it was lawful to compel people to take vaccines to prevent the disease and stop its spread. The smallpox vaccine then as now had a mixed reputation, with many questions about its safety and efficacy.

In 1905, the Supreme Court ultimately ruled that it was within a state’s police powers to compel vaccinations in the context of an infectious disease epidemic. Jacobson v. Massachusetts, now more than one hundred years old, is the bedrock of today’s vaccine laws, although a great deal in the world has changed since then. Cambridge, Massachusetts required that all citizens (but notably not all children because they were considered too vulnerable) take a smallpox vaccine or pay a $5 fine.

Reverend Jacobson objected, as did many others, on the grounds that requiring him to take the injection violated his rights to due process and equal protection under the Constitution. The Supreme Court decided that a duly elected legislature could impose a vaccination mandate, so long as it was necessary, applied to all equally and avoided undue harm.

Thus, Jacobson provides the basis for medical exemptions from vaccine mandates in all 50 states. But the decision did not create religious or philosophical exemptions. Forty-eight states created religious exemptions later in the 19th century, and 19 adopted philosophical ones. In 1922, in Zucht v. King, the Supreme Court upheld a vaccination mandate exclusively for children to be able to attend school, again in the context of smallpox.

Both these decisions are a far cry from today’s recommended childhood vaccine schedule of 70 doses of 16 vaccines by the time a child reaches age 18. Neither of them on their face justify today’s reality. The landmark Jacobson decision requires that there be “an emergency,” “imminent harm,” and a disease that “imperil[s] an entire population.” The Supreme Court even warned that mandates could be so arbitrary and unreasonable that they would force courts to intervene.
1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act: Free Pass for Pharmaceutical Companies

Congress greatly exacerbated the problem of no feedback loop when it passed the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act. It passed this Act after the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had already started recommending routine vaccines for children. At that time, the CDC was recommending that all children receive the measles, mumps, rubella, polio, diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis vaccines for school admission.

The mass vaccination campaigns caused severe injuries and death to some and led to expensive tort litigation against vaccine manufacturers and doctors. Companies and doctors complained, and manufacturers threatened to leave the marketplace. Congress capitulated, granting almost blanket liability protection to vaccine makers and healthcare professionals who administer vaccines.

I can think of no other product that the government both mandates and indemnifies.
Are Vaccines Safer Today Now that Pharmaceutical Companies Cannot be Sued?

In exchange for its liability-altering statute, Congress created a National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program and committed to make vaccines safer. Neither of these other goals has worked out as Congress intended. The government and industry spend very little money on vaccine safety research. In addition, industry and government have led multi-year campaigns to tarnish and silence messengers with bad news on vaccine safety. Such public vilification serves as a strong deterrent to other would-be vaccine safety researchers.

Under the 1986 Act, victims of injury may not sue a manufacturer or doctor in any court; they must first file in the NVICP within three years. On the upside, one’s lawyer’s fees are paid by the government in the NVICP. On the downside, most people miss the three-year filing deadline because they don’t know the NVICP exists. Ordinary rules of civil procedure and discovery do not apply. There are no juries of one’s peers. And the government has winnowed down the number of litigators willing to work in the forum by contesting their government-paid fees.

Although Congress intended the NVICP to be speedy, non-adversarial and work on the basis of presumed injuries, it is now generally slow, highly contentious, forces 90% of claimants to prove injury and still rejects most claims. Furthermore, while the compensation program decisions themselves make clear that autism, among other maladies, is a vaccine injury, the government refuses to acknowledge this reality.

Closing the feedback loop on bad news a bit further, the Supreme Court in 2011 in Bruesewitz v. Wyeth ruled that no courts may hear claims for defective vaccine designs, unlike for other products. Neither the NVICP nor ordinary courts have the jurisdiction to decide if a vaccine on the market is unreasonably unsafe; only federal regulatory bodies can now second-guess themselves and take vaccines off the market that they put there in the first place. You will not be surprised to know that this has never happened.
Mandated Vaccines Have Increased under Pharmaceutical Legal Protection

So the legal reality today is this: Depending on what state you live in, your state is probably mandating from 30-50 childhood vaccines, some against non-contagious, non-circulating or sexually transmitted diseases.

If your child suffers an adverse reaction after a vaccine, like seizures, paralysis or even death, you may not go to an ordinary court to sue the manufacturer for a defective product or the doctor for malpractice. You must go first to the NVICP and there, almost certainly, try to prove that your child’s injury was due to the vaccine and was not coincidental. Thereafter, you will likely decide that it’s not worth the candle to proceed in civil court because you will have found that proving injury is virtually impossible given the vast numbers of unanswered questions in vaccine safety science.
Informed Consent – Global Standard for Ethical Medicine

So what of informed consent, you say? Isn’t it true that prior, free and informed consent is the global standard for ethical medicine?

Yes, it is.

The legal framework for informed consent has been the norm since the 1920s in the United States and gained ground quickly after World War II when the Nuremberg Code disallowed experiments on human subjects without their full and informed consent. Since then, many international agreements and declarations have broadened human rights protections for informed consent in medical treatment as well as medical experimentation.

If you go for a surgery, you will spend at least an hour filling out informed consent forms. But not so for vaccination, because of Jacobson v. Massachusetts and the 1986 Act. Indeed, you will not be asked to sign anything, and you may or may not even be given a skimpy two-paged Vaccine Information Sheet as the 1986 Act requires.

Vaccine law and policy, given the known safety and efficacy risks, are grossly out of step with informed consent law and practice.
2015 Mickey Mouse Antics: Attacks on Religious and Philosophical Exemptions

To date, the saving grace for those who choose not to vaccinate has been the existence of religious and philosophical exemptions. But in the aftermath of the so-called measles epidemic affecting less than 200 people out of a population of 320 million with no deaths, legislators with industry backing are attacking non-medical exemptions in dozens of states. The National Vaccine Information Center’s Advocacy Portal tracks bills on vaccination; this is the best source of information on what’s happening about exemptions at the state level.

Based on Jacobson alone, the constitution protects only medical exemptions, but that understanding may be outmoded. More recent Supreme Court precedents about other medical procedures, including abortion, euthanasia, sterilization, and forced psychiatric medication, acknowledge that bodily integrity is a fundamental right and that courts must review state interventions with heightened scrutiny.

Furthermore, modern informed consent norms do require that people have the right to refuse vaccination. This is the norm in most countries similar to our own, including the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Japan, to name a few. Those countries achieve comparable levels of vaccine uptake as the U.S. but without the same level of coercion. Those countries also have at least as good, if not better, states of public health.

Source: Infant mortality rates regressed against number of vaccine doses routinely given: Is there a biochemical or synergistic toxicity?

Source: Infant mortality rates regressed against number of vaccine doses routinely given: Is there a biochemical or synergistic toxicity?

Conclusion: U.S. Vaccine Policy has had Tragic Consequences

The lack of feedback about vaccine injury and lack of accountability for vaccine manufacturers and medical practitioners have had tragic consequences. Precisely how many children have suffered is almost impossible to tell, given the lack of information about injury, medical ignorance and institutional denial. But telling, related statistics include that the U.S. is 34th in the world in infant mortality and that 1 in 2 U.S. children suffers from some chronic condition, be it autism, ADHD, asthma, allergies, or learning disability.

The world was not like this thirty years ago before Congress adopted the 1986 Act. While non-medical exemptions are no panacea, their preservation allows us a semblance of consent in this country. Without them, we will have an unprecedented kind of medical coercion with likely tragic consequences.

It’s time to stop killing the messenger.

Mary Holland is a Research Scholar and teaches at NYU School of Law. She has authored several articles on vaccine law and policy and is a co-editor of the book Vaccine Epidemic: How Corporate Greed, Biased Science and Coercive Government Threaten Our Human Rights, Our Health and Our Children (Skyhorse Publishers).

Houman

26th April 2015, 16:41

Congressional Briefing on the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program

Published on Dec 12, 2013

On November 7th, 2013, members of the vaccine injury community held a briefing for congressional staffers to present many of the problems in the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program in preparation for hearings in the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

Professor Mary Holland, Head of Graduate Legal Studies at NYU, and Rolf Hazelhurst
Father in one of the test cases In the Omnibus Autism Proceeding, and Assistant District Attorney General, State of Tennessee, present the case against the VICP and call for reform.

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Limor Wolf

26th April 2015, 20:25

From Dispelling Wetiko

Breaking the course of Evil, By Paul Levy

" Today.. it is as if the powers of darkness are coming out of hiding in the shadows and are emerging from below, increasingly unmasked so as to reveal themselves. The powers of the underworld are giving shape to and in-forming our world as they incarnate in visible form all around us. Instead of the spirit coming down from the celestial realm, it is as if spirit, in it's darker aspect, is emerging and rising up within and as the material world itself. As a species we are experiencing an undeniable uprising of the dark, destructive forces of the collective unconsciousness. As thinking, reflecting, conscious human beings, we can no longer deny the dark stirring of the unconscious as it plays itself out ever more conspicuously on the world stage. These overwhelming psychic forces are active powers that can not be fitted into our rational world order, explained away by our reason, nor argued out of existence. If we are not in denial, it is obvious that the powers of the underworld, as if they have a severe "control process", are attempting to centralize power and global control over our entire species in a way that is devoid of any pretence of democratic legitimacy, compassion or redeeming charm whatsoever. We are being confronted with the naked darkness of the soul, and asked, make that demanded , to come to terms with and face up to this darkness. The dark side of our nature, or we could even say shadow of god, is revealing itself and incarnating through the unconscious of humanity.

The "good news" is that a deeper realization is potentially available to us at such uniquely challenging moments of time as we are currently living through. The fact that archetypal, demonic energy like wetico is manifesting in fully visible form in our world right now is an expression that this particular energy is available to assimilation in a way that it previously was not. Before an archetypal energy like wetico can be integrated consciously, , it always materialize itself and manifest physically, forcing it's subject(s) into it's own form. When an unconscious, demonic content such as wetico is ready to be metabolized, it causes the universe to self organize in such a way so that it can manifest in fully embodied, corporeal form as the "medium" to potentially transform itself if enough consciousness is available to effect this transformation. This physical universe then becomes the stage which upon the energy bound up in the infinitely regressing feedback loop animating wetico disease is dreamed up, accessed, and potentially transmuted. It is only when these deeper energies become incarnated into the physical realm can the energy bound up in the compulsion to re-create the deeper archetypal pattern be accessed, unlocked, and liberated. This emancipation is the teleology- the underlying purpose, or goal-of the repetition compulsion of trauma.
This realization occurs within and is accomplished by the agency of our consciousness, through the medium of the fully embodied world, which is the very thing being revealed. "

Houman

27th April 2015, 00:38

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Dr. Mark David Geier discuss the CDC's VSD database

from
http://www.bolenreport.com/Mark%20Geier/attack%20on%20geiers.htm

The Attack on Mark and David Geier...

Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen

Saturday, May 21st, 2011

An attorney friend of mine, Bob Reeves, a mainstay in the mercury in health care wars, called me last April 28th, 2011 and asked me to look into some strange occurrences regarding Mark Geier MD and his son David Geier. As everyone knows, the Geiers are severe critics of the fact that Thimerosal (mercury - deadly toxic to humans) has NOT, despite false claims and misrepresentations from the vaccine industry, been removed from vaccines.

Bob asked me, as a Crisis Management Consultant, to analyze the situation and give him, and the Geiers, my Opinion and make some Recommendations. This, below, is the Public Version. The Private Version is much grittier.

Who are these Geier guys?

In short, they are the nemesis of the world-wide vaccine industry.

(1) Last January 27th, 28th, 29th, 2011 the Geiers, along with their colleague Lisa Sykes attended, by invitation as an official NGO, the United Nations Environment Programme - Intergovernmental Negotiating Committee to prepare a global legally binding instrument on Mercury (INC2). There, they officially presented, to the shocked international delegates, convincing evidence that mercury in vaccines, HAS NOT actually been removed, and represents a serious threat to the people of Planet Earth. The Geiers have since been invited to present again at the next conference in Nairobi, Kenya, in October, 2011.

(2) The Geiers have been a mainstay in the State legislative actions banning Thimerosal in vaccines across the US, and the world. More than half of the States are involved in Thimerosal ban legislation. Already, New York, Delaware, Iowa, Missouri, Illinois, California, and Washington state have legislated those bans.

(3) The Geiers, through their non-profit corporation CoMeD recently sued the FDA for, as attorney Bob Reeves say "The failure of the FDA to follow their own regulations and require testing for the safety of vaccines."

(4) Press Releases - the Geiers, through their organizations, have issued Press Releases documenting mercury in vaccine issues. There are five of them. You can read them by clicking on each one: One, Two, Three, Four, Five.

(5) Their peer reviewed studies, over a hundred, cover a broad range of Thimerosal caused issues including two extremely shocking revelations: (a) Thimerosal in vaccines is 300 times more toxic to the human brain than the bacteria in the vaccines it is designed to destroy, (b) there is a Thimerosal substitute that is twenty times more destructive to bacteria and it has NO affect on the human brain. You can find many of these published papers here.

(6) Mark Geier MD testifies in Vaccine Court on behalf of brain damaged children. Article.

(7) Both Geiers testified to the IOM on the problems of Thimerosal in vaccines. Testimony.

(8) Both Geiers have been active attempting to force the US Center for Disease Control (CDC) to make vaccine adverse reaction data available to the public. The CDC will NOT let anyone see that data. Do you wonder why? Link.

(9) David Geier was appointed by the Governor of Maryland to the Maryland Commission on Autism, and as such, has significantly effected the quality of treatment recommendations offered to Autistic children in the State of Maryland.

(10) Mark and David Geier, because of their research into the question "Why do boys get Autism at a rate higher than girls," found that Thimerosal interacts with testosterone, increasing it in children, causing "precocious puberty." They then found that the use of the drug Lupron reduces those effects, and significantly reduces incidents of violence, and acting-out, in Autistic children, sometimes almost removing Autistic behavior.

(11) The Geiers set up, with every health insurance company in the US, pre-approved protocols, using Labcorp testing, for the use of Lupron, and the payment for that testing and that drug, directly to the lab and pharmacies on a case-by-case basis.

The Geiers, because of their activities, are a MAJOR thorn in the side of the vaccine industry.

Major...

The Attack...

On April 27th, 2011, Mark Geier MD got a post-office delivered letter telling him that a secret hearing had been held by the Maryland Board of Physicians, and they had decided in that secret meeting (no records kept) that, suddenly, he was "a danger to the public," and that "because of that his license was being immediately suspended." A further, one hour, hearing was scheduled for May 11th, 2011 where neither Mark Geier MD, nor his attorney, would be able to examine any of the State's so-called witnesses (the State refuses to release the names), nor would they be allowed to produce any witnesses, nor testimony, of their own. More, at no time before either of the hearings, would the Maryland Board of Physicians tell Mark Geier MD what he was supposedly accused of.

The Maryland Board did, of course, release the information to the media, including the usual quackbuster nutbags, with one major new edition not well known to the North American Health Movement - one I will tell you about below.

Of course, one of my first questions was "Hasn't the State of Maryland ever heard of Due Process?" The answer, after a few weeks of investigation is "Yes, of course they have, but they are intentionally ignoring it."

In short, the State of Maryland Board of Physicians has no case, what-so-ever, against the Geiers, and certainly without any doubt, there was no reason for any immediate suspension, nor a suspension of any kind, of Mark Geier's license to practice medicine. The charges that David Geier has been practicing medicine without a license are not well founded

There is an organized scam going on here. This is an attempt to discredit the Geiers in a way similar to what was done to Andrew Wakefield MD in Britain. There are clear violations of "due process."

So, what really happened?...

As you can imagine, the Geiers have some critics (understatement of the year). Of course, Stephen Barrett has done an extra-nasty piece on them. Which means, that Barretts Parrots did the same. But Barrett, for once, is not the key character in this story, although some of Barrett's hangers-on make an appearance. There is one major player, and a whole host of interesting supporting roles. So let's get to the story.

On August 14th, 2006 a woman named Lisa Randall filed a long, complicated, Board Complaint (attached) against Mark Geier MD, using, as the basis for her complaint, a series of articles about the Geiers written by another woman named Kathleen Seidel.

Lisa Randall is the mouthpiece for the multi-million dollar funded vaccine promotional group Vaccine Safety Working Group.

Kathleen Seidel is one strange bird - an apparently unemployed librarian(?) with no visible income, she claims on her blog/website that brain damage "is a gift" and that physicians, or parents, who claim otherwise, should be punished (play the Twilight Zone music here). She is, to me, a whack-job cyberstalker, who fits right in with the pseudo-skeptics I describe below. The Geiers made the mistake of NOT legally reining her in a long time ago.

A second complaint was filed in 2006 by a doctor who had referred a patient to Mark Geier MD. This doctor didn't like the course of the treatment, but the patient's parents were completely happy then, and now.

A third complaint was, I think, filed by a "plant." A woman brought her child into the clinic for evaluation in 2005. She was sent, with her child, to the lab. She never went. Three years later (2008) she's back in the office, claiming she wants to restart. Mark Geier MD ordered an ultrasound on the child, which a technician performed. Once again, the woman and her child were sent to the lab for tests. She went there but would only allow one of the tests. She was never heard from again until her name was identified on the third complaint.

These were the only legitimately filed complaints. The first was filed in 2006, the last in 2008. There are no others on file, and no others were ever presented to Mark Geier MD. But, no one knows how many under-the-table complaints were filed. I suspect, however, that there were a steady stream - all filed, or instigated, by vaccine interests.

On the basis of these three complaints the Maryland Board of Physicians subpoenaed a copy of EVERY lab report ever ordered by Mark Geier's Maryland clinic, including those ordered by other physicians in the practice. From those the board gleaned a very comprehensive list of Geier's patients, all of which, it seems, they called, fishing for any unhappy patients. They found none. In fact, they found the opposite.

In five years of investigation no charges were ever filed. The Board representatives made it clear that the so-called charges were spurious, and that no action would be taken. And there were no new complaints - at least public complaints.

So, what changed?

On January 12, 2011 Joshua F. Scharfstein took over as the head of the Maryland Department of Health and Mental Hygiene. The employees of the Maryland Board of Physicians are all completely under his authority. Scharfstein is openly, and publicly, a proponent of mercury in vaccines. He has, in the past, gone out of his way to act on behalf of vaccine manufacturers. His earlier actions show that he, personally, considers the Geiers to be Public-Enemy-Number-One. He is a Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics, a group completely financed by the vaccine industry.

Scharfstein, who you will remember, was the number two person at the FDA, just under Margaret A. Hamburg, M.D.
Commissioner of Food and Drugs. The Scharfstein SCANDAL is still being talked about. Rumors float around suggesting that Scharfstein was, in fact, ejected from his FDA post for repeatedly bungling his assignment, and embarrassing President Obama. Attorney Charlie Brown, the head of the National Counsel Consumers for Dental Choice says:

"A reputable publication has once again recognized that FDA’s bungling of the mercury amalgam rule is subverting President Obama’s promised reforms of the way Washington does business. The President has expressed concern that "[e]xposure to mercury leads to serious developmental problems in children as well as problems affecting vision, motor skills, blood pressure, and fertility in adults." The President also said, “More than five million women of childbearing age have high levels of toxic mercury in their blood and approximately 630,000 newborns are born every year at risk. The EPA estimates that every year, more than one in six children could be at risk for developmental disorders because of mercury exposure in the mother’s womb.” However, the two persons he appointed to run FDA, Margaret Hamburg and Joshua Sharfstein, give carte blanche to the amalgam industry to sell mercury fillings with no consumer disclosures or warnings -- even to market it under the deceptive term “silver fillings.”

An article entitled “Obama Losing at FDA, Too” published in November 4’s FDA Webview concludes that the President’s FDA is “losing for the… failure to deliver on its promises.” The amalgam rule, “based on defective science,” shows “the Obama team’s grip on the bureaucracy below … is simply too weak.” According to FDA Webview’s respected editor Jim Dickinson, the amalgam rule could defeat “Commissioner Margaret Hamburg’s No. 1 priority: restoring public trust in FDA.” The article in particular criticizes Deputy Commissioner Joshua Sharfstein for refusing to stop the rule from going into effect, and for buck-passing the decision down to the agency’s “most dysfunctional center,” the Center for Devices, and specifically to its leading amalgam propagandist, dentist Susan Runner. As a result of such actions, “confidence in the Obama ‘change’ agenda is vanishing broadly.”

Scharfstein, it has been noted, was known for his avoidance of scrutiny by Congress. Brown says of this:

"FDA, too, is defying the President’s promise to bring transparency to government decisions. Last week, along with Freya Koss of the Pennsylvania Coalition for Mercury-Free Dentistry and Carol Ward, vice-president of Dental Amalgam Mercury Solutions (DAMS), I appeared at a hearing of FDA’s transparency task force. Ironically, it was chaired by the evasive Sharfstein who recently ducked out of a scheduled meeting with Congresswoman Diane Watson."

More, one simple fact supports the rumors of Scharfstein's forced exit from FDA. He was completely, and diametrically opposed to his boss Margaret Hamburg's philosophy on mercury in amalgam fillings, and in vaccines. Quoting Charlie Brown again about Margaret Hamburg:

"To your great credit, you were an activist New York City Health Commissioner. You were visibly condemnatory of mercury, calling any form of mercury exposure “highly poisonous to the brain and kidneys” (news release, June 18, 1991). Your views accord with all science on the subject – and with the regulations and policies adopted by all FDA Centers (except the Center for Devices), which (1) ban mercury in farm animals and pets, (2) warn against its consumption in fish, and (3) prohibit its use in topical applications and drugs for humans."

Hamburg had appointed Scharfstein to head an FDA Transparency Commission. Hamburg had said:

"Providing information to the public in a user-friendly and timely manner is critically important to the work of the agency and its credibility with the public. I have formed a Transparency Task Force, chaired by Principal Deputy Commissioner Dr. Joshua Sharfstein, to provide me with recommendations about how to make FDA and its processes more transparent to the public."

As you can see from the text above, Scharfstein was, in fact, AVOIDING transparency. The fox had been put in charge of the hen house.

So, how DOES the number two guy at the FDA end up in ,what in comparison to his former position, is a backwater, out-of-the-health-decision-tree position - as Secretary of the Maryland Department of Health and Mental Hygiene?

Good question...

The answer provides only two logical choices: (1) After Scharfstein's ejection(?) at FDA he found a MUCH lower level job in reach of his residence, or (2) Scharfstein's vaccine masters(?) ordered him to go after the job so as to be in a position to attack the Geiers (their worst nightmare).

Regardless...

A series of nothing Board Complaints against Mark Geier MD went nowhere for three to five years. Then in late February of 2011, about six weeks after Scharfstein took office, a secret meeting was held in the offices of the Maryland Board of Physicians, where, supposedly, a decision was made "by the Board," to declare an emergency over Mark Geier MD's medical license. I say "supposedly" because there does not appear to be any record of such a meeting. Could it be that the so-called meeting was just a staff meeting where Scharfstein, or his delegate, just gave that staff of the Maryland Board of Physicians their marching orders?

Let's talk about the players in this game...

On one side you have the Geiers, and the massive Autism movement demanding solution to their problems - a group of parents who followed the rules, took their child to the Pediatrician they trusted who vaccinated the child, and watched their child's mental functions disappear - only to be told by that same pediatrician "it wasn't the vaccines..."

On the other side you have the vaccine industry teetering on the edge of collapse, looking, desperately, for a way to keep the profits flowing. They may make a lot of money, but their costs and overhead are massive. Can you, for instance, imagine what it costs, just in the US, to lobby 50 State legislatures constantly? Then there is the massive numbers of lobbyists they need to employ just for the Federal Congress. More, flying all those Pediatricians to conferences in Hawaii, Paris, etc. isn't cheap. Then there all those ex-cheerleaders (called Detail Men) they need to keep trained to arrange birthday parties for doctor's children. Of course, even though their manufacturing costs are low, they still have to pay to have those vaccines made in those, un-inspected by the FDA (or anyone), putrid hovels in China and the third World.

But, more important for this story, there are the vaccine industry kiss-ups. Those that. perhaps, owe their very careers to the drug/vaccine industry. I will list them:

(1) Of course, Joshua F. Scharfstein. His employment history, shown on the Maryland web page, is nothing but a series of relationships with the vaccine moguls. For instance, look at these jobs - ALL vaccine promotional:

"Primary Care Pediatric Resident and Pediatrician, Latino Clinic, Boston Medical Center, 1996-2001. Primary Care Pediatric Resident, Dimock Street Community Health Center, 1997-99. Co-founder and Co-director, Docs4Kids Project, 1997-99. Part-time fellow, Massachusetts Department of Public Health, 1999-2000. Researcher and writer, World Health Organization, 2000. Fellow, American Academy of Pediatrics, 2001-. Fast track physician, Emergency Department, Children's National Medical Center, 2002-05. Adjuvant staff, Mount Washington Pediatric Hospital, 2002-05. Board of Directors, Docsfortots, 2003-05; Reach out and Read, 2005. Member, Board on Population Health and Public Health Practice, Institute of Medicine, 2007-09."

(2) Lisa Randall is the mouthpiece for the multi-million dollar funded vaccine promotional group Vaccine Safety Working Group. Need I say more? It is obvious how she fits into this story. You can find her commenting on Kathleen Seidel's blog.

(3) Kathleen Seidel. I cringe when I see how much damage this one has done - and I never noticed her, for she focuses almost exclusively on the Geiers, cyberstalking them though the internet. It is obvious how she fits into this story.

(4) The Skeptics (pseudo-skeptics). As individuals they fall into two groups: The leadership, which sometimes reveals their real identities, and the followers, who virtually never do. All of them maintain multiple internet identities with which to carry on conversations, backing themselves up, as it were, in arguments with opponents. Although not the brightest people in the world, someone has trained them in Search Engine Optimization (SEO) techniques, and they currently control Wikipedia health care articles.

In a section below I will show you how they fit into the attack against the Geiers. But, let's look at the specific pseudo-skeptic players against the Geiers:

(a) Steven Novella MD - head of the New England Skeptics. A personal friend of James Randi, who calls himself the "Amazing Randi." Novella's sub-group organizes the SEO plot (called Google-Bombing), pushing their own articles, including Kathleen Seidel's, to the first page of the search engines.

"Novella has been on my radar for a while as I put together the pieces of who the 2011 quackbuster team really are. I graph how they operate. He fits, easily, into the usual quackbuster pattern of fake resume, crap career, and, like Stephen Barrett, a molten hatred for those in the health professions who, through their own education and abilities, accomplish positive things and get deserved credit for it.

Novella claims to be a neurology professor at Yale University, and throws the name "Yale" around like he was throwing seed to the morning chickens - but, to me, that is an outright fabrication. Novella, evidence shows, works for a medical center that "rents" the name "Yale" from the University, who then, assuming the monthly payments are up to date, gets to claim that all their staff doctors are, in fact, professors at Yale (insert bad smell here)."

The reality of Novella, easily found, is that he testifies for insurance companies, and that seems to be the extent of his practice."

(b) David Gorski MD, who bills himself as "Orac" on Usenet Discussion Groups, and "MastCell" on Wikipedia, and his own blog "Respectful Insolence." Read the "Orac the Nipple Ripper" article to get a better feel for Gorski. Gorski is a co-conspirator with Novella and others to push Seidel's articles about the Geiers to the first pages of search engines.

(c) The rest of the pseudo-skeptics - the people, with "fake names" who populate the "comments" section of Novella, Gorski, Seidel, and other's blogs, using the opportunity to call the Geiers "sociopaths, child murderers, dead babies everywhere, etc." all of which is, and was, designed to defame the Geiers.

"Defamation is an act of communication that causes someone to be shamed, ridiculed, held in contempt, lowered in the estimation of the community, or to lose employment status or earnings or otherwise suffer a damaged reputation."

The efforts of the Skeptics, including Kathleen Seidel, are by definition, using defamation as a tool against the Geiers. The Courts have held that anyone who has editorial control over comments, and does nothing to control defamation, is just as liable as the author of the words. To me, Seidel's, and the other's, blog comments are a cesspool of defamatory comments designed to bring harm, including acts of violence, to the Geiers.

Unveiling the plot...

For years the usual quackbusters whined about the Geiers' activities - but their efforts went nowhere. The Geiers just went on producing excellent work. Even the formal board complaints did nothing.

Then the Geiers got invited to speak at the United Nations conference on mercury I described above. There, at that conference, were the top scientific advisors to 150 nations of the world. After the Geiers spoke all hell broke loose for the vaccine industry. Whole countries are talking about banning Thimerosal vaccines, and those same countries found out they were lied to. More, the vaccine industry could see the handwriting on the wall over vaccines since the US State Department team at the conference declared, at the conference, that the US would lead the way in the removal of mercury.

Then Joshua Scharfstein came on the scene and, suddenly, Mark Geier MD becomes "a danger to the public."

I don't believe in coincidence.

Then, of course, comes the media campaign - headed by the usual suspects in the "Skeptic" organization.

Which brings us to today...

What happens next?

The Geiers' legal team is alive and well. They have made demands for information and are pointing out that the State must do certain things immediately. This week the State MUST deliver all information including the names of their so-called expert reviewers. Then the fun will began.
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Houman

27th April 2015, 00:53

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HUGE Victory For Mark and David Geier...

Maryland Medical Board, and the Individual Employees involved, ULTIMATELY SANCTIONED by District Court - a Total Finding For the Plaintiff.

Damages Hearing to Follow.

Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen

Thursday, January 15th, 2015

I predicted that this, or something like this, would happen. The Maryland Medical Board, and the employees that work there, are and were, completely out of control. They believed, and they believe now, that they are the ultimate law of the land, that they have no oversight, and that they are immune from scrutiny by the Maryland Legislature and the court system. They also believe that they are not required to engage in "due process," and that whatever rule or procedure they make up, for the moment, is uncontestable. I have seen, in my career, Boards that exhibited bad attitude, and were, hence, brought back under control, but I had never seen before anything like the employees of the Maryland Medical Board exhibited.

But that Maryland Medical Board has just come up against reality. A very experienced Maryland Judge, Ronald B. Rubin, on December 15, 2014 decided that he had had enough of the Maryland Board, and its individual employees involved in this debacle, and took an extraordinary step to smack these people back in line. He issued a "Default Judgment" in the case, long before it ever came to trial, pointing out that he, Judge Rubin, had given the Maryland Board EVERY opportunity to comply with the law, and they failed to do so. He did it, not on the merits of the case, but on the Maryland Board's failure to comply with real "due process" in the court system itself. His eleven page Order, which is attached here, he made public.

Geiers v Maryland - Let the Lawsuits Begin... Geier Family Sues Sleazy Investigator, Prosecutor, and Corrupt/Inept Maryland Board of Physicians 12/26/12

More, and VERY IMPORTANT, is that the Judgment issued by Judge Rubin is against not just the Maryland Board as a public entity, but against INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEES, individually, meaning that there are going to be some personal houses, cars, jewelry, seized, and salaries garnisheed, until their deaths, to pay the damages. More, I predict, the Judge will, in the damages hearing, force the Board and its employees, to give the Geiers all of the discovery they sought in the first place - so that the Geiers can use it in their OTHER case. This coming time, I predict, Judge Rubin will have his courtroom packed with armed Montgomery County Deputy Sheriffs prepared to take to jail, immediately, not only the Maryland Board attorneys who fail to produce, but ALL of the named Defendants, under a "Contempt of Court" charge.
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Houman

27th April 2015, 01:40

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It is Time To End the US Vaccine Program...

This Dangerous "Vaccine Construction" Needs to be Disassembled...

We Need to Save Our Nation...

Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen

Thursday, March 12th, 2015

A few days ago members of the Oregon State Vote No On SB-422 coalition discovered that the Center For Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had created and funded a subversive organization for the express purpose of removing rights of Americans.

The CDC has apparently been funding this anti-American hate group, calling itself NACCHO, for some time, to the tune of 25 million dollars ($25,000,000) per year. NACCHO stands for National Association of County and City Health Officials.

NACCHO's Mission Statement says: "the National Association of County and City Health Officials (NACCHO) urges that personal belief exemptions be removed from state immunization laws and regulations."

Of course it is completely illegal for groups funded by government money to lobby legislators - but that fact, apparently, has no importance to a group that ignores vaccine damage to children when all that money is coming their way.

As I said before "the most insidious United States health project out there is what's called the CDC "Vaccines For Children Program." It is the basis for making our local Public Health Agencies the street-corner drug pusher - whose activities are aimed at our children."

Just yesterday it was announced that the Oregon Senator that initiated the "Jam needles in every child" bill, called SB-422, has withdrawn the bill. Smile here.

The war is on....

What caused, you may ask, the sudden shift by the Big Pharma controlled CDC, and their constituent State/County Health Departments, to attempt to create a national MANDATORY vaccine program, for not only children, but adults? Within weeks Democratic Party legislators all across the nation were jumping to do Big Pharma's bidding. Why was that?

Here is what happened - The first Half-Billion impressions on Twitter, and a short time later, a full billion impressions called #CDCWhistleblower. In short - a billion little billboards in social media pointing out that vaccines are total crap, the whole vaccine program is a fraud, and the participants in that vaccine fraud are, literally, the scum of the earth.

You can read the simple explanation of what actually happened, how it came about, and of how that all works, by clicking here.

Five to seven million new little billboards (impressions) are being created, and delivered, EVERY DAY NOW.

Pretty good campaign - and right on target. Everyone saw where the "vaccine construction," a money grubbing group made up of Big Pharma, State/Local Health Departments, and the kiss-up-to-Big-Pharma Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) SCREAMED OUT to DEMAND that Facebook and Twitter ban anti-vaxxers from their pages. (snort).

Of course this conspiring bag of wanna-be tyrants went to the Democratic Party for assistance in their ploy to remove basic rights of Americans. California's Senators Feinstein and Boxer couldn't get their political panties off fast enough, once Merck walked into the room dragging bags of upcoming presidential election cash. Empress Hillary beckons. The Democratic Party, in the mid-term elections were not just defeated, but the American electorate threw them from the boat. And, as we can see, that American electorate was right to do so.

Usually, I am an activist, and you can't shut me up. But, for now, I am just, more or less, sitting here watching the rage build in the American community. The proverbial sleeping giant has awakened - and is hungry for Big Pharma/Health Department/CDC blood. I AM VERY PLEASED. Why?

The US Vaccine Program is going to be an issue in the upcoming national presidential election. And, that is just what we want - the end of Big Pharma's stranglehold on the US citizenry.

There is NO Question - Vaccines are Unsafe and Ineffective.

The whole US Vaccine Program is a Scam.

A murderous filth-encrusted Scam designed to damage America as a nation.

I will say this again - "Here, within the US, basically five corporations are attempting to force Unquestionable Mandatory Vaccines on an unsuspecting population - Merck, Sanofi-Pasteur, Glaxo Smith Kline, Novartis, and Pfizer. None of these are US-based corporations. They are all foreign-owned - kept beyond US watchdog scrutiny. You never see their leadership, ever. Certainly not during the light of day.

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Of Course I'm Anti-Vaccine... I Have a Brain. 2/6/15

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It Is Time To Kill The Drug Lord Vampires... Get out the Silver Bullets. Sharpen the Wooden Stakes. Grab Some Garlic. Let's Go Hunting... We Need to Save Our Children... 2/25/15

But, you can see their minions. They are busy, in twenty States, trying to create panic over a hundred and two measles cases, and use that panic to get the public to create a Mandatory Vaccine program for all children, and then us. Their Mandatory Vaccines proposal is not about protecting against measles. It is about the drug lords taking control of you, your body, and your children's bodies..

Now, one in six US children are neurologically damaged. One in sixty-eight children have autism, ADD/ADHD children rage though public places. Brain damage is hidden in obscure reporting systems. Asthma is prevalent everywhere. 54% of all US children are badly sick - all of the time. In a few more years, despite advances in technology, there won't be ANY US children available to serve in our military forces. One MIT scientist, who knows what she is talking about, says that one in two children will be autistic by 2025, if the current trend keeps up.

This isn't by accident.

This is a plan of attack on America by foreign interests. And, it's working...

We need, at this point, to not only stop the current Mandatory Vaccine attack, but to completely destroy Big Pharma's ability to do anything like this again. In short. it is time to destroy the pharmaceutical industry entirely - and without question, remove the US Vaccine Program from the American Scene."

Activists - DO NOT STOP with just removing the Mandatory Vaccine Requirements.

The entire US Vaccine Program has to go.

While we are at it - let's remove Big Pharma's ability to advertise their products in the US media. The US is one of only two nations that allows Big Pharma advertising... The other is New Zealand. No where else on Planet Earth allows Big Pharma that much influence.

What the hell are we waiting for? How many more Americans need to be damaged, and killed, before we act?

The Rage?

Oh yes. I seem to be on everyone's e-mailing list. I took a few days off for a trip to the mountains, came back, and my Inbox erupted like popcorn. I was absolutely thrilled with the activity.

As my readers remember, I have been VERY critical of Autism Leadership's inability to focus on their problems, come up with a Plan, and activate that Plan. Looking out from my window on the Internet, now, gives me the impression that Attila The Hun and his Mongolian Horde, are riding over the hill, heading towards the State legislatures, the White House, and State Health Departments.

Thank God for the Republican Party.

In virtually every instance, nationwide, it was a Democrat that initiated these "remove rights of Americans" bills. In Oregon, for instance, the controversial SB-422 was introduced by a Democratic Senator Elizabeth Steiner Hayward, who, very clearly, did no research on any of the issues. But, a Republican Senator, Tim Knopp, did, and he said, about the bill:

"Sen. Tim Knopp, R-Bend, who led the opposition at the Legislature against SB 442, said letting the bill die is the "right thing to do."

He said while the debate was focused on Oregon's nonmedical exemption rate, he wanted to distinguish that figure from the vaccination rate. He said because exemptions don't necessarily mean children included in that statistic are completely unvaccinated, there doesn't seem to be an emergency.

"Ultimately, we probably need to review whether or not Oregon needs a constitutional amendment to make sure parents are in control of their kids' health care," Knopp said.

Yup. An issue for the general presidential election. Let's get going.

Stay tuned.

Tim Bolen - Consumer Advocate
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Mandatory Vaccinations?

FEMA Camps?

Dystopia - the End Result...

Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen

Thursday, March 25th, 2015

Let's start right out with where this is going. Vaccines are crap. The whole US Vaccine Program is a hoax. There is nothing wonderful about any part of it.

Vaccines cause Autism, other neurological issues, and are responsible for our entire US youth core being constantly sick. We, the so-called anti-vaccine groups, have the science - not the other way around, The Vaccine Construction involved in promoting vaccines knows this, and despite that knowledge, continue to attempt to inject barrels of foreign made filth pus into our children.

Death wielding pro-vaxxers, are, literally, human scum, and they need to be treated accordingly.

The idea being promoted by the Democratic Party, in each State, "Mandatory Childhood Vaccinations," is a program to eliminate freedom of choice and informed consent, telling us all that "Those children belong to the State not to the parents." Be glad the National Rifle Association (NRA) is keeping Empress Hillary, and her ilk, from taking American's guns away from us.

The argument over Mandatory Vaccines has drawn very clear lines between socio-political groups pitting ultraliberal "Barack Obama -The Constitution is just a piece of paper..." types against traditional American values of family, morality, ethics, kindness and individuality.

And, it is about time.

What we have here is a conflict over values. The Democrats say “WE, the state, own your child, not you. Therefore we will inject them with whatever we want” Republicans say to that “About who owns my child, and what you intend to inject into them, have you ever been shot before or is this going to be your first time?”

It gets down to a simple principal - Does the State own us, or do we own the State?

Simple choice.

More Articles About the Vaccine Hoax

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It is Time to Stop This Vaccine Nonsense... It is all One Monstrous Horror Show... 2/17/15

It Is Time To Kill The Drug Lord Vampires... Get out the Silver Bullets. Sharpen the Wooden Stakes. Grab Some Garlic. Let's Go Hunting... We Need to Save Our Children... 2/25/15

It is Time To End the US Vaccine Program... This Dangerous "Vaccine Construction" Needs to be Disassembled... We Need to Save Our Nation... 3/12/15

The political lines are being drawn.

The Democratic Party has sold out to international Big Pharma to get funding for their "We are The State. We own your children, and you" plan. And, what you may ask, is the plan? The ultimate dystopia - like Hunger Games or George Orwell's 1984. Aldous Huxley told us exactly what was going to happen in his 1932 book Brave New World - The Democrats want us to be, as described in Huxley's book, Alphas, Betas, Deltas, Gammas and Epsilons. Bill Gates, in his speeches, has told us all, exactly what role vaccines are to play. Don't remember Huxley's book? Read this - a commentary from a CRITIC of Huxley's book - someone who WANTS this kind of Bill Gates world.

Vaccine Huckster Richard Pan MD, a Democratic Party California Pediatrician who ran for, and won, a California Senate seat with a 4.6 million dollar Big Pharma backing, is quickly paying back what he owes in campaign contributions by authoring the Mandatory Vaccine bill SB277 - a huge financial windfall for Big Pharma. Pediatrician you say? Sounds impressive?

Let's look at the Pediatrician reality:

I'll be blunt. Pediatricians, these days, are con-men - their "Well Baby" program is only here to push more-and-more dangerous, useless, vaccines on an unsuspecting public. They have absolutely no other function. They are, in fact, a whole section of US medicine that we could well do without. It didn't used to be that way - but it is now.

Supposedly, Pediatricians developed as child specialists - and, to hear their representatives talk, they are the one-stop shop for all health issues pertaining to children.

Bull****...

Their organization, calling itself the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), is totally, and virtually ONLY focused on vaccine promotion. In 2010 the AAP took in $110,079,859.00 in total income. Their thirty-three (33) sub-chapters, together, took in a total of $16,109,174.00. All together they amassed $126,189,033.00 in total 2010 income. More on this in a minute.

But, go ahead and guess where all that money came from. It didn't come from membership......

Read all about that situation here in a 2011 article I wrote called "Want to Keep Your Baby Healthy? Stay Away From Pediatricians..." You will be appalled at what I found about about them, as a group.
But the Democratic Party, who, in my view, consistently think of the American population as Brave New World Deltas, suitable to work at minimum wage in the horrifying workplaces whose corporations support Democratic Party candidates, are clearly wrapping their future around Agenda 21.

But, like never before, opposition to the Democrat's forced conversion of American society from basic freedom to "Slave of the State" has arisen. And, it is loud, angry, and boisterous. The signers of the US Declaration of Independence would be proud.

A Complete Sea Change...

On November 12 of 2012, in front of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, the "picked" spokesperson for the Autism Community could not say the "V" word in testimony. But now, a little over two years later, literally, millions of people are screaming out the simple fact that the US Childhood Vaccine Program is a deadly hoax damaging the very fabric of America.

Everything about the Vaccine Program is a lie.

Everything.

Vaccines are neither Safe nor Effective.

Every State where the Democratic Party sold out families and introduced legislation in conjunction with State Health Departments is facing massive opposition. And, that opposition is getting well organized. Already, several of those bills have been defeated. In some cases those legislators are being targeted for Recall, or legislative discipline.

Anger is everywhere.

Television personality Jimmy Kimmel, who, on-air, openly mocked families with vaccine damaged children, is feeling the wrath. He is almost whining, on-air, about what he calls "Mean-Tweets." Mrs. Kimmel's 'little boy Jimmy isn't feeling the love...

Oregon Democratic Senator Elizabeth Steiner Hayward, the author of the "Hold all babies down and jam them with needles" bill, has tucked in her tail and found a place to hide - closing her Twitter and FaceBook Accounts...

The Anger Across the Nation is Incredible...

This Mandatory Vaccine issue really is developing as the cornerstone of the new American Revolution. Why? Because, BASIC political issues are on the table. it is a "right now" thing pitting basic political philosophies against each other.

On the one hand we have the basic Democratic Party philosophy - "We are the State. You will do what you are told when we tell you to do it. If you don't we have a FEMA camp for you. We are going to inject your children with whatever we want, whenever we want, so as to provide Deltas to work in chicken processing plants..."

Or, of course, we have the Republican viewpoint, explained in two quotes

(1) We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

(2) Amendment X - The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Yup. An issue for the General Presidential election.

Simply - do "We the People" own the government or does the government own us?

Let's get going.

Stay tuned.

Tim Bolen - Consumer Advocate

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The Battle of Bull Run...

The Second American Civil War Has Begun...

And It Started Over Vaccines...

Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen

Tuesday, April 21st , 2015

Tens of thousands of parents of vaccine injured children, in California, woke up one morning, not long ago, to find that their Democratic Party controlled legislature had given up any semblance of representing the people that elected them. They had become only about special interest. Money talks.

I'm surprised that the Democrats still let citizens approach government buildings in Sacramento, the State capitol, any more. (sarcasm intended).

In a busy life, the kind the year 2015 generates, it isn't hard to lose track of what's happening in your State capitol. Parents need to get to work. Get the kids to school. Buy groceries. Wait in line at the gas station. Survive.

Survive.

But now, as, not only parents of vaccine injured children are finding out, parents in general, civil rights advocates, families, churches, protectors of liberty, and anyone not in the Democratic Party grab-everything-in-sight controlled government in California, are finding that their legislators apparently represent ONLY THOSE that write checks to those same Democratic Party legislators. The Democrats control the State. There is a reason that California, along with Washington and Oregon, are known as "The Left Coast."

It's the Left Coast - with a hand out waiting for cash...

But, down below in this article, I have something to show you that is changing the course of this campaign.

SB 277, forcing children to be double-loaded with clearly dangerous-in-every-way, dubious vaccines, got California citizens' attention...

And, they went to Sacramento in droves, from all over the State, to nicely explain to their legislators, the ones they had just voted for, the problems associated with SB277. They had a RALLY on the Capitol steps.

I think those citizens honestly believed that that tactic, polite confrontation of the issue, would win the day. They thought they'd be home in time to make dinner for the kids...

They hadn't done their homework.

They came up against Freshman Democratic Senator Richard Pan MD, who, without question, is Big Pharma's, bought and paid for top lobbyist in California - a lobbyist with a vote on the Senate floor, and the ability to directly introduce legislation.

Pan, a man with no particular skills, except for some training to flail around a pediatrician practice stabbing children with pus filled needles, has, in his first month AUTHORED thirty three (33) bills none of which I'm sure he wrote, never even read, and certainly did not understand. You can view those bills here. Go take a quick glance. If you want more detail, click on each of the bill numbers.

See?

Of particular interest, besides, of course his stab-everyone-repeatedly-with-Merck-products legislation, is SB 435 called "Medical home: health care delivery model..." What is really interesting about THAT is the built-in language:

"It is the intent of the Legislature to exempt from state antitrust laws and to provide immunity from federal antitrust laws, pursuant to the state action doctrine for, any activities undertaken pursuant to this act that otherwise might be constrained by those laws."

In other words, it looks to me, Pan is setting up his sponsor with a monopoly, and protecting that sponsor, using State law, from being sued in an anti-trust action filed by the US Justice Department, or by the bill's victims.

Wow! I wonder how many small companies, now in the business Pan is creating a monopoly for friends, will be forced out of their own business with no legal recourse?

There is a team, as we sit here reading, looking up the connections between Pan's "bills" and his campaign funders - after all, a VIOLATION of the California Fair Political Practices Act is at least a Misdemeanor. Maybe more...

Hopefully, a LOT more. We'll see what happens.

Now, for the really good stuff...
Senators Ben Allen and Richard Pan addressing Senate Education Committee on SB277

There is an interesting video I am about to show you. Originally it was for insiders to watch - strategists working on solving the No on SB277 problem.

Then things changed. The decision was made to just release it.

The video shows something many of us suspected all along - that Senator Pan has a handler. That he, in fact, is such a dolt, a copy of a legislator, that he can't operate without minute-to-minute help. So much so that I looked at the videos, with him in them, to see if i could see an earpiece. He did not have one. When Pan was tripped up last Wednesday, by the chairman of Education Committee, he began to stutter and stammer, not answering questions put to him, but mouthing jingoish Paul-Offit-isms. The chairman let him come back next week, Pan was so distraught.

Clearly, this boy can't handle stress...

But, more was happening. There were those there that were watching Pan's actions closely, and photographing him, and his associates - then showing the photos around to the teams for recognition.

That's when this story unfolded.

Watch the video i am sending you to see. Keep in mind that it was not designed for a general audience. It was for a nationwide strategy group to view (YES, THERE IS ONE), and it is a little fuzzy in the beginning - but it gets VERY interesting, very quickly. It is about fifteen minutes long, but it tells a whole, complete, story. Click here.

This information sets us in a brand new direction.

The Second American Civil War has begun.

Stay tuned.
- See more at: http://www.bolenreport.com/autism/antivaccine%20yes7.htm#sthash.rnEuZdXG.dpuf

Houman

27th April 2015, 01:55

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Houman

27th April 2015, 02:29

" Today.. it is as if the powers of darkness are coming out of hiding in the shadows and are emerging from below, increasingly unmasked so as to reveal themselves...

Yes we have an infestation of cockroaches but in the end it is not about what they do but about what we are doing about it... how much we care and take action...there is no magic... unless we understand this and take care and action at a personal level the collective outcome will remain on a very dark path...

Houman

27th April 2015, 04:28

SB277 California Public Hearing - April 8, 2015 - Opposition - Part 1
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Houman

27th April 2015, 06:30

These moms are true warriors
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30th April 2015, 02:56

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From http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/dr-andrew-moulden-every-vaccine-produces-harm/

Dr. Andrew Moulden: Every Vaccine Produces Harm

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Moulden – A Search for Life and Truth

by John P. Thomas
Health Impact News

Canadian physician Dr. Andrew Moulden provided clear scientific evidence to prove that every dose of vaccine given to a child or an adult produces harm. The truth that he uncovered was rejected by the conventional medical system and the pharmaceutical industry. Nevertheless, his warning and his message to America remains as a solid legacy of the man who stood up against big pharma and their program to vaccinate every person on the Earth.

Dr Moulden died unexpectedly in November of 2013 at age 49.

Because of the strong opposition from big pharma concerning Dr. Moulden’s research, I became concerned that the name of this brilliant researcher and his life’s work had nearly been deleted from the internet. His reputation was being disparaged, and his message of warning and hope was being distorted and buried without a tombstone.

I prepared a series of articles as a tribute to a great physician and as a memorial to a courageous individual who was not afraid to speak the truth about medical corruption and a flawed healthcare system that does more to harm health than it does to cure disease.

This is the first in a series of four articles about Dr. Moulden — the man, the physician, and the powerful advocate for ending all vaccine use. In future articles, I will summarize his detailed scientific evidence, which shows how vaccine damage occurs. I will explain the common mechanisms behind vaccine damage and how vaccines harm the health of everyone who receives them regardless of whether or not they notice any adverse reactions at the time they take the shots.

Dr. Moulden stated:

What we have done to each other [with vaccines] has produced the most profound damage to humankind by humankind in the history of humanity. And the reason why we got here is partly because of:
Our arrogance in thinking that we know everything. In physiology and medicine we do not know everything!
[Our greed] to advance our own self-interest to make money, to sell products and to advance corporate alliances. Commercialization has overtaken the fundamental human value of “do unto others as you would have others do unto you.” When society turns toward this human value, then we would all be working together for the greater good of each other. [However, other values have become more important] I don’t care whose feet I step on or how I get there as long as my American dream is realized. I don’t care who has to pay for it on the way of getting there. [1]

Dr. Moulden’s Credibility

Was Dr. Moulden a crackpot as some sources claim, or was he a brilliant physician and researcher? This series of articles will set the record straight, and summarize the contribution that his work has made to medical knowledge.

When I evaluate the credibility of people who are unknown to me, I begin by seeking answers to a few basic questions. For example: Is this person offering opinion, or can he or she back up the claims with valid science? Does he have educational credentials? Are there other physicians and scientists who support his or her beliefs and recommendations? Is this person controlled by the pharmaceutical industry, allopathic medical associations, or the US FDA (US Food and Drug Administration)? And finally, what do Quackwatch and their friends have to say about the person?

Dr. Moulden had a PhD in Clinical Psychology and Neuropsychology. He had a master’s degree in child development, and was also a medical doctor. [2] His work was respected by other researchers who don’t march to the drumbeat of the pharmaceutical companies. Dr. Moulden was a threat to the pharmaceutical industry, and their Quackwatch family of 21 related websites treated him as an enemy. [3, 4]

Resigning from Medical Practice to Testify on Vaccine Safety

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Dr. Moulden resigned from his medical practice in 2007 to travel throughout North America delivering the message that every dose of any and all vaccine types causes harm to those who receive it. He stated:

As many know, I officially quit my medical career in 2007. I did this in order to travel around North America to do research into vaccine safety and to present my research on vaccine safety across Canada and the United States. I only spoke the truth. I was not well received. [5]
During those years, he showed that many cases of Shaken Baby Syndrome were actually vaccine-related damage. His testimony freed many parents from false accusations that they had abused their infants.

Retreat from Public View: Attacks and Death Threats

In 2010 Dr. Moulden disappeared from public view. He stated:

In 2010-11 I returned to my PhD training to complete a full year accredited Clinical Neuropsychology internship at the Baycrest Center for Geriatric Care in Toronto. During this time I also taught a University course on Health Medicine at York University in Toronto. I stopped talking about my research and vaccines. The Public Health Department advocated that I NOT be allowed to return to clinical medicine as they were incensed by the message (truth) of my lectures and teaching prior to ‘disappearing.’ The only way I was allowed to return to organized medicine to work with medical patients was if I signed a contract drawn up by the public health department which states: 1) I am mentally ill and therefore my research and teachings on vaccine safety were delusional. 2) I am not allowed, whatsoever, to speak or present my research or views on vaccine safety, in public, at all, as a condition of being allowed to return to clinical medicine, receiving a medical license, and for maintaining that license. [6]

Even before Dr. Moulden retreated from public view, a group of professional character assassins went to work to destroy his reputation in any way possible. They published lies and deceptions on the internet and did everything possible to bring him down. After he retreated, his websites were hacked and access to his teachings was largely destroyed. Yes, there were even death threats.

The Mysterious Death of Dr. Andrew Moulden

The death of Andrew Moulden is shrouded in mystery. Some sources say he had a heart attack and others say he committed suicide.

A colleague of Dr. Moulden who wishes to remain anonymous reported to Health Impact News that he/she had contact with him two weeks before he died in 2013. Dr. Moulden told our source and a small number of trusted colleagues in October of 2013 that he was about to break his silence and would be releasing new information that would be a major challenge to the vaccine business of big pharma. He was ready to come back. Even though he had been silent, he had never stopped his research.

Then, two weeks later, Dr. Moulden suddenly died.

Dr. Moulden was about to release a body of research and treatments, which could have destroyed the vaccine model of disease management, destroyed a major source of funding for the pharmaceutical industry, and at the same time seriously damaged the foundation of the germ theory of disease.

Death Threats Against Vaccine Critics are not Unusual[/B

In another case of vaccine damage cover-up, Dr. Garth Nicolson received death threats. He was part of a research team that became aware of biological warfare testing that was done on prisoners in Texas. The biological warfare agents later showed up in vaccines that were given to US service personnel during the Persian Gulf Wars. The result was thousands of cases of Gulf War Syndrome and vaccine-related deaths.

Professor Emeritus Garth L. Nicolson, PhD, is the President, Chief Scientific Officer and Research Professor of Molecular Pathology at the Institute for Molecular Medicine in Huntington Beach, California, and has taught in medical schools in the US and Australia. He is one of the most often cited scientists in America today.

Dr. Nicolson explained what happened to him when he and others learned about the Texas prison experiments and the vaccine damage that occurred among US troops in the Gulf War. He stated:

We were actually forced to leave Texas. I was an endowed full professor and department chair at the University of Texas and I literally had to leave Texas because it became too dangerous. Several of my colleagues died. My boss was shot in the back of the head in his office, because he was going to blow the whistle on the prison testing experiments. So, it became very dangerous. [7]

[B]Preserving Dr. Moulden’s Legacy

The powers who wish to suppress the work of Dr. Moulden have done a very good job of erasing most all of the information that was once available on the internet. Before it all disappears, I would like to take the time to summarize some of his teachings.

In this article, and in those that follow, I will condense the key points from the 6 hour video series called “Tolerance Lost.” At the moment, this is still available on YouTube.com. The information was given in three videos, which are presented on YouTube in 51 segments.

If you want to hear Dr. Moulden explain his findings, then I highly recommend spending the time watching his videos. The images of vascular and brain physiology are very instructive as are the numerous photos of children, Gulf War veterans, and other adults who display visible signs of vaccine damage.

Listen to Dr. Moulden in his own words give evidence to the mechanisms that cause vaccine damage in “Tolerance Lost.” See the evidence of vaccine damage in the faces of children.
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Listen to a presentation from Dr. Moulden that summarizes key principles of his Research.
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I have also used various other resources for preparing this summary. There are a few transcripts of interviews given by Dr. Moulden and three chapters from an unfinished book [8] that are still available on the internet. Text was collected and summarized from all of these sources.

In some cases I needed to do additional research to fill in the details that were not fully explained by Dr. Moulden in these resources. My independent research also confirmed the facts of blood physiology and neurological functioning that Dr. Moulden described.

How the Germ Theory of Disease Produced the Vaccine Era

Most people, myself included, were taught that every disease has a single cause. Thus, if we want to prevent that disease, then all we need to do is eradicate the cause of the disease. Once we do this, then the disease will disappear from the face of the Earth.

According to this theory, if there is a disease, then there must be a single cause, which could be a bacteria, virus, parasite, or some type of environmental exposure. We might not understand the process of how a microbe, for example might cause illness or death, we only need to be reasonably confident that the microbe is associated with the disease. In other words, germs cause disease and we can stop the spread of infectious diseases through the use of vaccines, which are supposed to give the body immunity against experiencing disease. In theory, vaccines create a situation in the human body where exposure to a disease causing pathogen no longer triggers the disease.

The vaccine era that started in earnest in the middle of the 1800s was a direct outgrowth of the belief in the germ theory of disease. The vaccine movement took a giant leap forward in the late 1950s after the so-called polio epidemic supposedly threatened the lives of thousands. The high visibility of the epidemic in the media produced great fear, which made Americans eager to take the polio shot and eat the vaccine-laced sugar cubes as soon as they became available.

We were told that we should be proud of the dedicated researchers and their American ingenuity which led to the creation of the first polio vaccine in the 1950s. Whether or not the polio vaccine was effective and whether it actually caused more deaths than would have been caused by the wild polio virus is still hotly argued. But one thing is clear, the marketing of that vaccine caused Americans to become believers in the health preserving power of vaccines.

Dr. Moulden Rejected the Theory that Modern Diseases are Caused by a Single Agent
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Dr. Moulden challenged the single cause germ theory of disease. He, along with a select group of other physicians and scientists, recognize that we can no longer think in terms of a single germ causing a single disease. The modern epidemic of syndromes and diseases that began to afflict us in the last half of the twentieth century, and continues to afflict us today, are the product of multiple causes that work together to bring about disability, disease, and death. The multiple causes produce multiple illnesses and syndromes.

Many, in fact most all, physicians and scientists still cling to the single cause single disease way of thinking. The pharmaceutical industry develops its drugs in the same way. Every problem, every illness, every disease can be treated by a specific substance of their creation. Of course their treatments rarely cure disease, they just treat symptoms. When the symptoms disappear, then the problem is resolved as far as they are concerned.

Dr. Moulden rejected this way of thinking, because he knew that it was failing to cure people from what ailed them. It was based on flawed and ineffective medical science. He chose not to stay within the confines of mainstream medical thinking, but insisted on getting out of the box and looking deeper than most anyone else was willing to look. People who get out of the box are always criticized, attacked, and threatened by the established order, especially when a person clearly has more training and expertise than those who are doing the criticizing.

Dr. Moulden had a PhD and a medical degree. His education focused on brain functioning and psychological/behavioral responses to brain dysfunction. He could see what other people didn’t see, because few people had his background or his tenacity to look beyond conventional medical diagnosis and treatment. He pulled together different aspects of science to create a comprehensive model of disease, which could explain numerous modern diseases.

Dr. Moulden Could not Ignore the Fact that Vaccines were the Greatest Threat to Human Health

Based on his training and clinical experience, Dr. Moulden could not ignore the fact that vaccines were the greatest threat to human health in the twentieth and twenty-first centuries. He could not ignore it, because it was literally staring him in the eyes as he looked at the faces of his patients. He could see the evidence of cranial nerve damage caused by vaccines when he observed the abnormal facial expressions and movements of the eyes of those who had been exposed to vaccines.

Dr. Moulden was convinced that the widespread use of large numbers of vaccines did not mark the beginning of a new age of disease-free living, rather they introduced a new era of universal sickness.

Vaccine Damage does not Produce just a Single Symptom

Vaccine damage does not produce just a single symptom; rather the reactions are many and varied. Additionally vaccine reactions can occur shortly after receiving the injection or they can occur years later. Often, the reactions only become noticeable after many doses of different vaccines have been given. The variability in reactions and the unpredictable time frame for reaction gives the pharmaceutical industry and the medical establishment that they control, the statistical confidence to assert that vaccines do not produce harm. If they don’t see a large number of adverse reactions of a single type within a specific short time period, then they conclude that harm was not produced.

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We are told that vaccines are so safe, that a child could receive 10,000 vaccines and not have an adverse reaction, yet the pharmaceutical industry has never done twenty-year longitudinal studies to even measure what happens to children who receive 69 or more doses of vaccine during the first 18 years of life. They have not done it and they will not do it, because they know that vaccine damage would be revealed. They also will never compare the health history of vaccinated children with unvaccinated children. It is estimated that one million children in the US have not received any vaccinations. So, it would be easy to compare vaccinated and unvaccinated children. But if this was done, the results would prove that vaccines do in fact cause illness, disability, and death.

Dr. Moulden was convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that vaccines do cause harm. He saw the evidence of disability, lifelong suffering, and premature death. Those of us who are willing to think outside of the box that has been created by the pharmaceutical industry accept the fact that vaccine damage represents a broad spectrum of conditions and syndromes, which can be traced back to vaccine use and exposure to various environmental toxins.

Damage from Vaccines and from Environmental Exposures

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Dr. Moulden understood that vaccines were a serious problem, but he also recognized that numerous environmental factors could also cause modern diseases.

The combination of vaccine use, pesticide exposure, chemicals in food, toxic chemicals in the water and air, to name a few, are all working together to destroy our health, damage our fertility, and decrease the world population. He also understood that poor nutrition increased the severity of vaccine reactions.

Primary Mechanisms in Vaccines that Cause Harm

Dr. Moulden identified two primary mechanisms that explain how vaccines and environmental toxins cause the numerous neurodevelopmental diseases that have spread through the United States, Canada, and other so-called developed countries. The two components are M.A.S.S. and zeta potential. These will be discussed in detail in the next articles. At this time I just want to introduce you to M.A.S.S. (Moulden Anoxia Spectrum Syndromes).

The damage to human health that occurs from vaccines and environmental toxins interferes with normal blood flow and triggers extreme immune system reactions. The result is oxygen deprivation at the microvascular (capillary) level. The capillaries are the smallest blood vessels in the body. It is estimated that the human body has 600,000 miles of capillaries. When blood flow is stopped and oxygen is no longer available to cells in certain highly sensitive areas, then cellular damage and normal body functioning will be damaged. When this happens in the brain and the digestive system, autism and other neurodevelopmental conditions can develop. Essentially, vaccines, certain environmental toxins, and poor nutrition can create conditions in which tiny strokes occur in microvascular regions of the body.

Let’s start by defining the words that are in the acronym M.A.S.S.

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The letter M indicates that Dr. Moulden developed the principles that explain Anoxia Spectrum Syndromes.

Anoxia

Anoxia is a condition in which the supply of oxygen to a group of cells or to an organ is absent. Anoxia is the result of restricted blood flow. Blood clots, inflamed blood vessels, and coagulated blood can slow or stop blood flow to certain areas of the body. When the blood flow is very sluggish, the flow can easily be stopped altogether or may momentarily reverse its direction. In this situation, oxygen cannot be delivered to cells and they begin to die. Cells literally can suffocate to death without oxygen. This is a key process for understanding how vaccine damage occurs.

Syndrome

A syndrome is different from a disease, because it implies multiple causes and multiple symptoms. We tend to think of learning disabilities, autism, Alzheimer’s, irritable bowel disease, Crohn’s disease, colitis, food allergies, shaken baby syndrome, sudden infant death, idiopathic seizure disorders, Gulf War syndrome, Gardasil adverse reactions, schizophrenia, Tourette’s syndrome, chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, expressive aphasia, impaired speech skills, attention deficit disorders, silent ischemic strokes, blood clots, idiopathic thrombocytopenia purpura, Parkinson’s disease, and other modern neurodevelopment disorders as being individual diseases that must have individual causes. However, if we step out of the box of conventional germ theory, where every disease has one cause, then it is possible to begin seeing illness and the recovery from illness in a very different way. Doctor Moulden brought these modern conditions together under the term MASS, because he could see that there were common mechanisms at work in all of them.

Spectrum

Spectrum indicates that we are talking about a syndrome that ranges in severity or intensity. The symptoms of MASS can range from mild to severe. The disability from MASS can range from unnoticeable to death. The word spectrum also applies to syndromes across all age groups. The syndrome can involve babies in utero, infants, children, and adults of all ages.

Exposure to the triggers of MASS also follow a spectrum. In some people, a small trigger produces a significant set of disabling symptoms. With other people, high amounts of exposure may only cause minimal changes in a person’s health at that point in time. However, the exposure to the triggers of MASS are cumulative, and it is common to reach a point after repeated exposures to one or more illness triggers where minimal exposure produces severe symptoms of disease. In some situations a point will be reached where the next exposure may become life threatening and may lead to death.

Triggers for MASS Reaction

The MASS reaction involves excessive immune system stimulation, causing immunological hypersensitivity.

This condition is most commonly triggered by the insertion of foreign substances into the body that were never intended to be put there. Vaccines with their viruses, bacteria, adjuvants, preservatives, and unintended residual biological contaminants introduce many foreign substances into the body. The entire package of ingredients in vaccines, whether intended or unintended, will trigger an immune response.

Vaccine manufacturers intend to produce an immune system response in order to achieve “immunity.” However, Dr. Moulden showed us that this immune system response has serious consequences, which threaten health and life itself. Technically, this reaction is called excessive non-specific immune hyperstimulation. This reaction produces definite harm in addition to whatever temporary small benefit (if any) that might be produced by the vaccine.

There are many triggers for the MASS reaction. In terms of vaccines, the triggers include biological agents such as living or dead bacteria and viruses or portions thereof. Vaccines also contain residue of the media that was used to culture the viruses or bacteria, for example, human fetal tissue, cells from monkey organs, mouse brains, and calves blood. They contain toxins such as latex, gluten, soy, peanut oil, MSG, formaldehyde, and various preservatives. Metals such as mercury (Thimerosal) and aluminum are particularly harmful. [9]

Regardless of the trigger, the response of the immune system is the same. However, the visible symptoms of the damage that results from hyperstimulation of the immune system will vary considerably from person to person. These reactions have been classified as different modern diseases even though the cause for all of them is related to immune system hyperstimulation.

This makes perfect sense when you consider that inorganic particles such as asbestos, prions (non-living proteins), heavy metals, and coal dust, by example, can all cause disease, cancer, disorders, and death. Yet none of these are germs. Clearly, it is something the body does in response to these foreign entities that is causing disease and not “germs and infectious diseases” in and of themselves.

MASS is a generic physiological response. It does not matter that the infectious disease agents in a vaccine have been weakened, killed, or attenuated before they are placed in a syringe and injected into the body. The key point is that something foreign to the body has been injected into it, and the body is reacting in such a way that modern diseases result. The cure and prevention of human disease is to be found in understanding the body’s generic MASS response to foreign materials that enter the body.

Dr. Moulden made it clear at numerous points that vaccines are not the only trigger for autism and other modern diseases. Vaccinations can be a direct cause of autism spectrum disorder in young children. However, vaccines given to mothers who are nursing their young children can lead to autism in their children as well. This means that a child does not need to be vaccinated to be damaged by vaccines.

The Common Thread to Modern Diseases

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Dr. Moulden was trying to draw together all of the groups that are working hard to find solutions for their specific illness of interest, so that they could work together to stop vaccine use. He understood that the autism group, the sudden infant death group, the shaken baby syndrome group, the Gardasil group, the Gulf War Syndrome group, the attention deficit disorder group, the gastrointestinal problem group, etc., all need to be working together, because all of these illnesses are on the same continuum of illness. The symptoms of the illnesses may be different, but the mechanism that causes all of these modern syndromes and diseases is the same.

Dr. Moulden stated:

You are all in the same continuum. You all need to be fighting and coming together and working together to change this system that is causing these damages to you. [10]

My Own Experiences with Modern Diseases

Over the years, I have examined numerous books and have read through many websites that discuss modern diseases. Some of these resources still cling to the germ model of disease. Thus, they are still looking for a single cause and a single treatment. I have personally had the experience of saying, “Oh, I have that problem and I have that symptom, so maybe I should try the recommended solution.” As a result, I have taken lots of supplements and have followed other recommendations to see if they would have any effect on my health. Most of the time there has been little benefit. However, I do believe that the recommendations did work for some people, so what was the problem with me?

Perhaps my symptom really didn’t match the single cause that was being targeted by the product recommendation. When we cling to the notion that each symptom has a single cause and a single solution, we waste a lot of time and a lot of money trying to fix ourselves and those we love.

I have also worked with other resources that assembled sets of symptoms for certain illnesses. When I have compared the list of symptoms that were identified for different modern diseases, the lists were very similar. How can so many modern diseases have very similar symptoms? When I started comparing lists of probable causes or triggers of modern illness, once again the lists for different modern illnesses began to look very similar. This was disconcerting. How could several different illnesses have similar symptoms and similar causes and yet be called different diseases?

Dr. Moulden explained what I was observing. He took the analysis of modern diseases and went the next step. He recognized that there are a comprehensive set of triggers for modern neurodevelopmental diseases, and that nearly all of these diseases are caused by the same triggers. Thus, he understood that multiple disease triggers can work together to cause various diseases and he was able to describe the process through which all of these diseases develop. The mechanisms of modern neurodevelopmental diseases are MASS and zeta.

Conclusion in Dr. Moulden’s Own Words

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These remarks were contained in a eulogy that Dr. Moulden wrote when his father died in 2003. The eulogy wove together events in his father’s life with his own struggles and expressed his love and gratitude for the influence of his father on his life. Dr. Moulden stated:

As I continued to express and expound my concerns that the childhood vaccines were causally linked to autism and neurodevelopmental disorders, it came to a point that the regulatory powers in my professional life were convinced that there indeed was something wrong with me and that I must be in need of treatment to “get straight.” In essence, the College of Physicians and some of my colleagues, some of whom I have never met personally, to this day, asserted “Dr. Moulden is mentally unstable and in need of treatment” – he must be ‘MAD.’ I am — I was — I continue to be MAD. I AM DAM MAD, and I have scientific proof of cause and effect on vaccine induced autism at the 99.99th percentile level of statistical confidence. That makes me MAD, in temperament, not insanity.

Despite my unwavering belief in vaccine-induced brain damages (I could measure and see it), the College of Physicians and Surgeons own independent assessors could find nothing wrong with my mental faculties other than being ‘stressed.’ I was stressed. We are causing harm…nobody seems to care. Nobody wants to rock the boat. I just want the truth to be known so parents can make informed decisions and children and infants are no longer killed or harmed. Despite the College of Medicine’s own independent psychiatric assessors (there have been several) finding that I was sane, the College was not satisfied with this and pushed for a diagnosis of some form of mental instability as only such a label would justify how I was not fitting into their dogmatic world of compartmentalized beliefs and preventative medicine panacea – one size fits all global vaccines.

Indeed, the College of Medicine went as far as stating, “Dr. Moulden must have pharmacological treatment for his delusional disorder in order for him to continue his medical practice and receive licensure.” My own lawyers took a strong stand on my behalf. In the end, it was easier to simply go along with the College and its “requests” rather than subject myself to time lost from career and training. I also learned to shut my mouth on issues of vaccination and autism. Although effectively silenced, it did not shut my curiosity, and I have continued to research my autism-vaccine model, “behind-the-scenes”, and fully intend to continue doing so provided the evidence suggests this is the right course… such is life, my father recognized this, I recognized this, and news worthy events, around-the-world, indicate, in many ways, the system is sicker than the individual.

I think I would rather change the system, to help the individual, rather than change the individual, to help myself. Ron [his father] agreed with this philosophy and in many ways lived by it.

I promised Dad that I would press on with my research until I found the absolute undeniable truth – whatever that would be before I die with the purpose of using our life histories as a backdrop for challenging science over faith, humanity over inhumanity, truth over deception, and unravel the mystery behind one of the causes of autism and schizophrenia. But dad knew what I was really up to, I was searching for proof of the existence of GOD – in medicine, by studying the brain – my secret, something hidden, from all, but my father, and our FATHER. If I ever shared this goal, I would have been deemed crazy, and all my real scientific work would be invalidated by association – another delusion I guess. [11]

John P. Thomas is a health writer for Health Impact News. He holds a B.A. in Psychology from the University of Michigan, and a Master of Science in Public Health (M.S.P.H.) from the School of Public Health, Department of Health Administration, at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
References

[1] “Tolerance Lost,” Dr. Andrew Moulden, Video series, Retrieved 12/1/2014. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZXM-TKvLN8

[2] Vaccine Errors, Chapter 2: Where we Went Wrong with Vaccines, Dr. Andrew Moulden, MD PhD; Retrieved 12/9/14. http://barbfeick.com/tolerance_lost/moulden/vaccines-Moulden.html

[3] “Andrew Moulden” RationalWiki, Retrieved 11-04-2014. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Andrew_Moulden#Death_and_purported_mental_illness

[4] “Vaccines cause “microvascular strokes” that cause autism?” by Respectful Insolence, Retrieved 11/04/2014. http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/10/16/vaccines-cause-microvascular-strokes-that-cause-autism/

[5] Retrieved 11/05/2014. http://www.drandrewmoulden.com/

[6] IBID.

[7] “Weaponized Mycoplasmas,” Dr. Garth L. Nicolson, Lecture presented at the 9th Common Cause Medical Research Foundation Conference, Sudbury, Ontario, Canada on Aug. 29-31, 2008, Published July 29, 2013, Retrieved 10/29/14. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT25HhAVhhU

[8] Vaccine Errors, Chapters 2-4, Andrew Moulden, MD PhD, Retrieved 12/9/14. http://barbfeick.com/tolerance_lost/moulden/vaccines-Moulden.html

[9] “Toxic Vaccines: The Current Science,” Presentation given by Leslie Manookian, Weston A. Price Foundation Annual Conference 2014.

[10] “Tolerance Lost,” Dr. Andrew Moulden, Video series, Retrieved 12/1/2014. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZXM-TKvLN8

[11] “A Son’s Tribute MASS Ischemia Discovered in Eulogy”, Dr. Andrew Moulden, Scribd, Retrieved 12/12/2014. https://www.scribd.com/doc/79335431/A-Son-s-Tribute-MASS-Ischemia-Discovered-in-Eulogy

Published on December 29, 2014

chriswallace

30th April 2015, 05:25

Is it true that Lucifer was infected with said dark matter? possibly carbon? After passing through a portal which he was warned against, it took him to the outer darkness. Upon his return he was cast out due to his disease to live with carbon life forms. So coming from a higher plane like say crystal, it's no wonder he probably has a chip on his shoulder now being forced to live with that which caused the problem. I once had a dream about a big sooty cloud, it said 'I am your father, change your ways before 33 or its all over'
I just thought this was totally stupid, a complete figment of the imagination untill I saw exactly the same cloud on one of the hobbit films.

Houman

1st May 2015, 05:50

In 11 parts, Andrew Moulden's conference in Montreal
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Houman

2nd May 2015, 06:06

This is from 1 year ago!
May 24, 2014
http://www.mercedsunstar.com/news/state/article3290338.html
Big money backs Richard Pan in race for state Senate

The little girl in the commercial is called Emily. She smiles infectiously as a doctor in a white coat listens to her heart. Her blond hair bounces across her back when she reaches up to give him a high-five.

By Laurel Rosenhall - lrosenhall@sacbee.com

The little girl in the commercial is called Emily. She smiles infectiously as a doctor in a white coat listens to her heart. Her blond hair bounces across her back when she reaches up to give him a high-five.

In real life, the girl’s name is Seneca. Her mom is a lobbyist and her dad is a political consultant. And the man depicted as her doctor is an assemblyman who spends more time in the Capitol than the exam room.

The ads promoting Richard Pan are hitting televisions and mailboxes across the Sacramento region as he competes in a three-way race to replace Sen. Darrell Steinberg in the state Senate. The Democrat who has long represented Sacramento in the state Legislature must leave office at the end of this year due to California’s term limits.

Pan is running for Steinberg’s seat against fellow Democratic Assemblyman Roger Dickinson and a Republican pastor named Jonathan Zachariou. Dickinson has held elected office in Sacramento for more than 20 years. Zachariou is a political novice who has never won an election. Yet the advertising blitz Sacramentans are seeing in the run-up to the June 3 primary focuses almost entirely on Pan, who worked as a UC Davis pediatrician for a dozen years before being elected to the Assembly in 2010.

That’s because Pan has raised more money than his opponents and is also benefiting from big spending by outside interest groups who are sending out mailers and airing commercials. Labor unions representing health care workers, university professors, school employees and construction workers – as well as groups that represent doctors, dentists and real estate agents – have poured more than $600,000 into independent campaigns to support Pan and slam Dickinson.

“Because Roger has been a public figure a whole lot longer, he may be ahead in the race,” said Democratic consultant David Townsend, who manages a business-backed political action committee that has given to Pan.

“The Pan supporters may have felt they needed to do more to make sure that Pan is the second candidate in that race.”

In California’s open primary system, the top two vote-getters – regardless of party affiliation – will advance to the November runoff. That means both Democrats, Pan and Dickinson, could continue duking it out for months to come.

So far, most of the ads promoting Pan highlight his career as a pediatrician before he joined the Legislature. And Seneca Mitchell – the little girl who gives him a high five in the TV commercial – is featured in many of them. Now 5 years old, she was Pan’s patient for about a year and a half before he was elected.

Seneca’s prominent role in his campaign – she also appears in at least four mailers, and Pan’s website features more than two dozen pictures of her – is part of a broader strategy that is downplaying Pan’s experience as a politician in favor of an image as a working doctor. It also illustrates Pan’s close ties to groups that lobby on health care matters.

Pan’s professional relationship with Seneca’s mother goes back several years, before he was elected and before Seneca was born. As a UC Davis pediatrician, Pan was an active member of the group that lobbies for doctors in the Capitol, known as the California Medical Association. Seneca’s mother, Jodi Hicks, was the association’s chief lobbyist.

When Hicks became pregnant and started searching for a doctor for her baby, she said she turned to Pan, whom she already knew through the medical association.

“At that point he never was thinking of being a candidate. It was a very normal patient-pediatrician relationship,” Hicks said. “We put a lot of trust in him.”

When Pan ran for Assembly in 2010, baby Seneca appeared in one of his ads. Hicks said the family still has the billboard in their house.

“Seneca thinks it’s very cool,” she said.

Now Pan chairs the Assembly’s health committee and Hicks is a partner in a Sacramento lobbying firm called DiMare, Brown, Hicks & Kessler. She routinely seeks Pan’s votes as she lobbies for clients that include associations representing family physicians, eye doctors and podiatrists. Those three groups have together given more than $20,000 to Pan’s campaign.

When Pan sought patients to appear in his campaign ads, Hicks said her daughter was excited to participate at the chance to wear make-up and ham it up for the cameras. And Hicks said she thought it was a good opportunity for the family to demonstrate its civic engagement.

“I think it’s common to have volunteers in your commercials and mail. Volunteers tend to be people who are more active in politics,” Hicks said.

“I don’t think anyone other than a few of us here in Sacramento know it’s a lobbyist’s daughter.”

State law forbids lobbyists from making donations to politicians seeking offices they work to influence. But it doesn’t stop lobbyists from volunteering on those campaigns.

Gary Winuk, chief of enforcement for the state’s Fair Political Practices Commission, said he couldn’t comment specifically on Pan’s ads. But speaking generally, he said, there would not be a problem with a lobbyist’s child volunteering for a lawmaker’s commercials.

“Lobbyists can’t donate anything of value,” Winuk said. “But personal services like walking or phone banking are not valued monetarily under the (Political Reform) Act.”

The Bee asked Pan why he chose a campaign tactic that so obviously demonstrates his relationship with a lobbyist.

“It’s more my relationship with Seneca, who is a former patient of mine. That’s what it’s really about,” he said.

Pan said he is highlighting his work as a doctor in his campaign for state Senate because it demonstrates his practical in-the-trenches approach to policymaking. Even though he’s been a full-time member of the Assembly the last four years, Pan remains a licensed doctor and volunteers most Fridays seeing patients at a health clinic in Oak Park.

“I’m someone who spent time and continues to spend time on the front lines,” he said.

“In the beginning of the week I guess I help shape the rules as an Assembly member, chair of the health committee. At the end of the week, I have to live by those rules, and my patients do, too.”

While Pan has support from major business and labor interests, Dickinson has the backing of the California Democratic Party. He’s been endorsed by Steinberg as well as several unions and Democratic clubs. And a group that lobbies for trial lawyers has recently stepped in to help him, spending $43,000 on a mailer opposing Pan.

Dickinson is framing the race as one that pits his grass-roots support against Pan’s big-money backers. He said he enjoys a good reputation with many voters after serving 17 years on the Sacramento County Board of Supervisors before being elected to the Assembly in 2010.

“I am fortunate that I don’t have to spend an exorbitant amount of money in order to be successful in June,” he said.

“I run as a ground-up community activist who became an elected official at the local level and spent three and a half decades trying to publicly serve the community where I live. I am running against someone who has had his political fortunes largely driven by the support of state-level organizations that have funded him and promoted him. I just think that’s a dynamic.”

Zachariou, the Republican pastor who heads a congregation in Davis, said he is fighting an uphill battle in a largely Democratic district, where his rivals have more money and more name recognition. Zachariou has raised just $6,150 for his campaign.

“I am not politically connected. I am still virtually unknown,” he said.

“What I’m finding in California politics is that (for) people who donate money, especially if it’s a significant amount, there is a hesitation to get behind an underdog.”

Houman

2nd May 2015, 06:17

This is from 2011
http://naturalsociety.com/merck-paid-legislators-to-pass-mandatory-gardasil-vaccine-bill/
Merck Paid Legislators to Pass Mandatory Gardasil Vaccine Bill

Key California legislators who were instrumental in the passing of legislation that would require mandatory Gardasil & hepatitis B vaccinations for children as young as 12 received financing from vaccine titan Merck. Merck of course is the creator of the Gardasil vaccine, linked to 49 deaths and countless side effects. The bill, commonly referred to as the “Gardasil Bill,” aims to keep parents in the dark over their children’s mandatory vaccinations. Current vaccine protocol requires parental permission, and family activists nationwide are speaking out against the anti-parent nature of the bill.

Politicians who received Merck funding, according to Cal Watchdog.

Senate:

Kevin De Leon, D-Los Angeles, $2,000
Ed Hernandez, D-West Covina, $2,500
Elaine Alquist, D-San Jose, $1,000
Noreen Evans, D-Santa Rosa, $1,500
Juan Vargas, D-Chula Vista, $3,500
Alex Padilla, D-San Fernando Valley, $300
Curren Price, D-Los Angeles, $1,700
Roderick D. Wright, D-Inglewood, $1,500
Lois Wolk, D-Vacaville, $2,000
Leland Yee, D-San Francisco, $1,500

Assembly:

Ben Hueso, D-Chula Vista, $1,000
Bob Blumenfield, D-Van Nuys, $1,500
V. Manuel Perez, D-Indio, $1,500
Richard Pan, D-East Sacramento, $1,000
Bill Monning, D-Santa Cruz, $1,500
Felipe Fuentes, D-Arleta, $1,500
Holly J. Mitchell, D-Culver City, $2,500
Speaker John A. Perez, D-Los Angeles, $1,500
Ricardo Lara, D-South Gate, $1,000
Mary Hayashi, D-Hayward, $1,500
Roger Dickinson, D-Sacramento, $1,000
Nancy Skinner, D-Oakland, $2,500
Jose Solorio, D-Santa Ana, $1,500
Steven Bradford, D-Inglewood, $1,500
Toni Atkins, D-San Diego, $1,000

Houman

2nd May 2015, 06:23

This is from 2012
http://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-News/September-2012/Turning-Vaccine-Exemptions-Into-Class-Warfare.aspx

It is getting uglier and uglier out there, as angry, frustrated doctors inside and outside of government work overtime to foster fear and hatred of parents making conscious vaccine choices for their children. The latest political dirty trick is to brand parents, who send their children to private schools, as selfish and a threat to their communities because some private schools have higher vaccine exemption rates.

Take pediatrician and California Assemblyman, Dr. Richard Pan, for example. He is angry that many parents and health care professionals opposed AB2109, a bill he authored and pushed through the California legislature this year. [1] Dr. Pan misled his colleagues into believing that that forcing parents to pay for a doctor’s appointment to beg a hostile pediatrician [2] or medical worker to sign a personal belief exemption form is all about education.

Educated, Articulate Parents Defending Parental Rights

Medical trade associations that helped Dr. Pan lobby the state legislature included the California Medical Association, Health Officers Association of California, California Immunization Coalition and the American Academy of Pediatrics.[3] In public hearings this year, educated, articulate mothers and fathers stood up to these powerful medical groups and defended their parental and informed consent rights.

In a syndicated Associated Press article, Dr. Pan lashed out at families sending their children to private schools and accused them of becoming too educated about vaccination. Dr. Pan said: “In private schools, these are people who have money, who are upper middle class, and they are going on the internet and seeing information and misinformation.” [4]

Vaccine Information & Vaccine Exemptions Should Be Free

Dr. Pan is correct about parents “going on the internet” to learn, for example, how he refused in his bill to allow local pharmacists to sign a personal belief exemption form because he wanted to force all parents to first pay for a medical office visit. AB2109 clearly discriminates against parents, who cannot afford to pay a doctor to sign the form. [5] Why doesn’t Dr. Pan post information he wants parents to have about vaccination on the Department of Health website so parents can become educated for free? [6]

Instead of admitting his bill is more about coercion than education, Dr. Pan attacked parents, who send their children to private schools. It looks like what doctors and medical trade groups really want to do is bully and punish parents, who hold sincere religious and conscientious beliefs about vaccination, no matter how much money they have or where their children attend school.

Doctors Engaging in Class Warfare

The same week that Dr. Pan publicly played the “class” card, he was joined by vaccinologists Dr. Saad Omer and Dr. Neal Halsey, who echoed Dr. Pan’s bigoted accusation in the same news article. Just like Dr. Pan, Drs. Omer and Halsey put the blame for higher personal belief vaccine exemption rates at private schools, such as the Waldorf Schools, on “wealthy” parents.

Dr. Omer has published a series of medical journal articles profiling parents taking non-medical vaccine exemptions and criticizing state laws that allow parents to take exemptions. [7] [8] [9] [10] According to the AP article, Dr. Omer said he “surmised that more private school parents are wealthy and have the time to spread five shots over a series of years and stay home should their child get an illness like chickenpox.”

Dr. Halsey, who I debated publicly in 1997 about informed consent to vaccination, [11] told the AP reporter that “parents who choose private schools are likely to be more skeptical of state requirements and recommendations.” With that grossly inaccurate generalization, Dr. Halsey attempted to politically stereotype parents filing vaccine exemptions in order to explain why children attending private schools that respect parental rights and health care choices -,like Waldorf schools - have vaccine exemptions.

When doctors politicize vaccine exemptions in order to engage in class warfare, they are crossing a line that reveals more about who they are than the families they are trying to stereotype and marginalize. Dr. Pan, who has assumed the mantle of lawmaker, and Dr. Omer, who enjoys six federal vaccine research grants funded by the CDC or NIH, [12] and Dr. Halsey, who has funding from SmithKline Beecham and the Gates foundation,[13] likely are not struggling to pay the rent or pay for groceries.

Doctors Want Fewer Medical Exemptions, More Power

Drs. Omer and Halsey are now calling for doctors to deny even more children medical exemptions to vaccination because they are unhappy that states with stricter non-medical exemptions have a higher rate of medical exemptions! [14] [15] [16]

So let’s get this straight – what Drs. Pan, Omer, Halsey and medical trade groups really want is for state legislatures to grant doctors police powers to force parents to violate their conscience and deeply held religious beliefs in addition to doctors having the power to deny medical vaccine exemptions to children, many of whom are already vaccine injured.

That is a lot of power. That is power without accountability or liability.

Could it be that doctors with financial ties to medical trade associations, vaccine manufacturers and government health agencies are lobbying so hard to severely restrict or get rid of all vaccine exemptions because, every day, there are more and more Americans, who know somebody who was healthy, got vaccinated and was never healthy again?

Informed Consent: A Human Right

The human right to informed consent to medical risk taking is a universal ethical principle that should be respected by doctors in every nation, especially in America, where we have a long history of respecting the right to self-determination.[17] Doctors refusing to protect children from vaccine injury and death because they do not want their authority questioned [18] should not be given the legal power to force anyone to violate their conscience or religious beliefs.

Parents, who have witnessed their children regress into chronic poor health or die after vaccination, belong to every class and every race, religion, philosophy and political party in America. Today, they are joining hands with parents of healthy children and fighting to protect medical and non-medical exemptions that it looks like doctors will try to gut or completely take away next year in states like Arizona, [19] Connecticut, [20] Maryland, [21] Oregon, [22] [23] Colorado, [24] New Jersey [25] and many more. [26]

Please sign up to be a user of NVIC’s free Advocacy Portal at www.NVICAdvocacy.org and volunteer to work in your state to defend the human right to make vaccine choices for yourself and your children.

It’s your health, your family, your choice.
[1] Richardson D. CA Bill Restricting Personal Belief Vaccine Exemption Heats Up. NVIC Vaccine E-News July 2, 2012.
[2] Wang S. More Doctors ‘Fire’ Vaccine Refusers. Wall Street Journal Feb. 16, 2012.
[3] California Immunization Coalition. Director’s Update: AB 2109 Moves on to Senate. May 30, 2012.
[4] Dreier H. Private School Vaccine Opt-Outs Rise. Associated Press/USA Today Sept. 9, 2012.
[5] Richardson D. NVIC Statement Opposing AB 2109. June 20, 2012.
[6] ONeill S. Bill Would Make It Tougher for Parents to Exempt Their Kids from Vaccines in California. KPCC Public Radio (S. CA). Sept. 13, 2012.
[7] Omer SB, Pan WK, Halsey NA et al. Nonmedical exemptions to school immunization requirements: secular trends and association of state policies with pertussis incidence. JAMA 2006; 296: 1757-1763.
[8] Salmon DA, Omer SB. Individual freedoms versus collective responsibility: immunization decision-making in the face of competing values. Emerging Themes in Epid 2006; 3: 13-15.
[9] Omer SB, Enger KS, Moulton LH, Halsey NA et al. Geographical clustering of nonmedical exemptions of school immunization requirements and association with geographical clustering of pertussis. Am J Epidemiol 2008; 168: 1389-1396.
[10] Omer SB, Salmon DA, Orenstein WA, deHart PM, Halsey N. Vaccine Refusal, Mandatory Immunization and the Risks of Vaccine Preventable Diseases. N Engl J Med 2009; 360(19): 1981-1988.
[11] You Tube. Live debate with Barbara Loe Fisher and Neal Halsey, M.D. on ”The Today Show.” NBC March 1997.
[12] Saad Omer, PhD, MPH, MBBS. Grants.
[13] Johns Hopkins Advanced Studies in Medicine. American Academy of Pediatrics National Conference Satellite Symposium Oct. 17-22, 2011. Activity Faculty: Neal A. Halsey, M.D.
[14] Moyer CS. Medical Vaccine Exemptions for Children Not Always Justified. American Medical News Sept. 10, 2012.
[15] Stadlin S, Bednarczyk RA, Omer SB. Medical Exemptions to School Immunization Requirements in the United States – Association of State Policies with Medical Exemption Rates (2004-2011). J Infect Dis Aug. 29, 2012 (published online).
[16] Salmon DA, Halsey NA. Keeping the M in Medical Exemptions: Protecting Our Most Vulnerable Children. J Infect Dis Aug. 29, 2012 (published online).
[17] Fisher BL. The Moral Right to Conscientious, Philosophical and Personal Belief Exemption to Vaccination. National Vaccine Advisory Committee May 2, 1997.
[18] NVIC. Vaccine Freedom Wall. Public reports of threats, coercion and sanctions for making informed choices about use of one or more vaccines
[19] Fehr-Snyder K. Immunization Exemption Rates on Rise Among Arizona Schoolchildren. The Republic Sept. 12, 2012.
[20] Cuda A. Vaccine Exemptions on Rise in State. Connecticut Post Sept. 3, 2012.
[21] Asaithambi R. Time to get tough on vaccine refusal. Baltimore Sun April 11, 2012.
[22] Seaman AM. More Oregon Kids on “Alternative” Vaccine Schedules. Reuters June 18, 2012.
[23] Anderson J. Religious Exemptions Tilt Immunization’s Balance. Portland Tribune. Feb. 16, 2012.
[24] Stobbe M. Colorado Second in Vaccine Refusals. Associated Press Nov. 28. 0211.
[25] Berk H. Vaccine Exemptions for Religious Reasons May Face Stricter Guidelines in New Jersey. Parentdish Mar. 16, 2011.
[26] IDSA. Increase of Religious Exemption to Immunization Requirements in New York State. IDSA Conference Poster Presentation Oct. 20, 212.

Houman

2nd May 2015, 06:54

From 2013
http://www.ageofautism.com/2013/11/who-is-dorit-reiss.html

Last week San Francisco based legal expert, Dorit Reiss, was in Washington to attend the briefing by Mary Holland and Rolf Hazlehurst on the Congressional hearing into NVICP next month, subsequently writing about the event for the pharma/government sponsored organization Every Child By Two.

Paid or not Dorit Rubinsten Reiss, associate professor of law at UC Hastings, has emerged in recent months as one of the most strident advocates of compliance with the US vaccine schedule, and is likely to be prominent in the debate over the fairness and integrity of the National Vaccine Injury Compensation in advance of the Congressional hearing in December. With this in mind Age of Autism re-publishes UK editor John Stone's account of extended exchanges with her on examiner.com last August, posing the question what exactly does she believe, and why is she doing it? Below is a Best of from last August.
Following two articles on the organization Voices for Vaccine and its two leading advocates Dorit Reiss and Karen Ernst . John Stone (UK Editor of Age of Autism) had the opportunity for a detailed exchange of views with Reiss on Examiner.com in its blog ‘Anti Jenny McCarthy petition authored by pharmaceutical industry cronies’. The position, however, is much as before.

The legal and historical status of Voices for Vaccines

Dorit tried to make light of the association with ‘Task Force for Global’ a sizeable non-profit which claims to be a partner of the Centers for Disease control which takes money from the pharmaceutical industry. In fact, VFV were started by ‘Task Force’ in 2008 which stated its intention of recruiting members of the public to act as advocates for the vaccination program. When I originally wrote about Dorit on these Karen was on in minutes stating:

Voices for Vaccines has as its fiscal agent The Task Force for Global Health. They take in our donations and cut checks for us. Many non-profits who are too small to handle their own 501(c)3 status use fiscal agents in this way; it's quite common. We have absolutely no access to their money, nor do we benefit from their money. Voices for Vaccines is not tied to any pharmaceutical corporation or to any government organization. Thus far, all of our donations have been small and have come from individuals.

However, the Task Force website states that VFV is a project of Task Force (and it subdivision Vaccine Equity) and CDC veteran Alan Hinman is named as both director of Vaccine Equity (funded by Bill Melinda Gates Foundation, Merck and Novartis) and VFV. When finally cornered on this we had the following exchange:

Dorit: The problem is that she [Karen] cannot show you a negative: how is she supposed to show you that Hinman is not controlling? I point out that if you look at what VFV does, it is very clearly Karen and Ashley's voice you hear and no one else. If you want to demonstrate links to the Task Force, I'd appreciate some evidence of control.

Me: It would be a trifle unusual for the director of an organization not to have any say in its running. BTW does VFV have an independent report and accounts - I can't see anything displayed on the website?

Dorit: Note that Hinman is not listed as director on VFV. I don't know why he is on the Task Force. And I don't know about the accounts - you'd have to ask Karen Ernst.

Me: Karen can comment here if she wants.

I do not know whether Karen is grateful to Dorit but so far she has not shown up to clarify matters. Earlier on in the exchange Dorit had seemed to have more knowledge of VFV’s financial arrangements:

Many non-profits that are small make use of a financial agent. The global task force serves in that role for Voices for Vaccines. They pay the Global Task Force for it.

Agency or Regulator Capture

Here Dorit maintains the level of obfuscation we might expect following her article on the benefits of agency capture, only surprise she does not recognise any instance of capture and all the points where the CDC and industry meet – either through Task Force or the CDC Foundation – are ineffably benign and beneficent.

Dorit: … Reading the Task Force's annual report, I see some ex-CDC among its people, and some projects in which the CDC is a funder. http://www.taskforce.org/sites.... The fact that the Task Force gets funding from CDC seems to suggest that if anything the CDC has input into their projects, not that pharma influences the CDC covertly through the Task Force. That's not good evidence of pharmaceutical control (or even influence) on the CDC. To remind you, the CDC's operations are funded by Congress

Me: Surely, it is a matter of culture. Julie Gerberding was appointed head of Merck vaccine division within a year of leaving the directorship of the CDC - that is scarcely reassuring. You may be comfortable with such things, but I am not.

It's a long time ago but Task Force according to Wiki was founded by three ex CDC execs who could thus form partnerships with both industry and the CDC.

Another commenter “Ember” intervenes:

Your article arguing the benefits of (regulatory) capture is not confusing. The term regulatory capture was originated by Woodrow Wilson to signify the phenomenon of state regulatory agencies which were created to act in the public interest but which instead advance the commercial or special interests that dominate the industries the agencies are charged with regulating. There's really nothing confusing about trying to rectify the term or the practice as a "good thing."

Dorit responds to neither point. This is a later exchange:

Me: Actually, when it comes to the issue of regulatory capture the CDC Foundation is a very interesting topic. Here is a list of the foundations corporate partners with the rubric:
"Our diverse partners understand that linking with CDC through the CDC Foundation can significantly advance public health in this country and worldwide. Often, partners become engaged early on in a project to clearly understand its objectives or participate in the program design. Several partners may jointly fund a program to ensure its successful completion.

"Corporations whose goals or philanthropic interests align with CDC’s work often partner with the CDC Foundation to advance CDC's work on a specific health threat, such as protecting patients from healthcare-associated infections, reducing tobacco use and increasing screening and treatment for chronic and infectious disease." (http://www.cdcfoundation.org/what/partners#category-299)

Of course, all the major pharmaceutical manufacturers are there (and none of them are really philanthropic organizations)

Dorit: The foundation is actually set up as a good example of the…kind of collaboration that we want to encourage and that does not really raise concerns about capture. The foundation operates outside the CDC, with a dedicated team; it does things that do not require direct regulation of companies - most of the projects are focused either on research or on activism abroad; it does not give funding partners direct access to decision making inside the CDC; it allows the CDC to do things that it would not be able to do on its regular budget to prevent health threat; and in case you noticed, funding partners include The Mayo Clinic, the World Health Organization, and others.

Me: An alternative reading is that the agency simply becomes the instrument of various industrial (and other) interests, which as I understand it you welcome. That, after all, was where we came in.

Dorit: I'm not sure where you read that I welcome an agency becoming the instrument of industrial interests - that's some serious misunderstanding of my article. But the CDC foundation certainly does not show that the CDC is an instrument of the companies. It does projects related to public health beyond the core responsibilities of the CDC, separate functionally from decision making, and I'm not sure how you can say any of the specific projects makes it the instruments of companies.

Me: It certainly does not show careful distance - it makes the CDC a conduit for trade.

To which Dorit does not respond.

Banning Jenny McCarthy from public broadcasting and whether vaccines cause autism

These two issues sit together, with Dorit’s attempt to de-legitimize and marginalize Jenny’s experience. I wrote:

Me: When I wrote an article about you a couple of weeks ago…I was disturbed at your attitude to agency capture, combined with your very hard line on vaccine compliance and an aggressive strategy to shut people out and…down who disagree - Jenny McCarthy would be a case in point.
Dorit: …I always do my best - time permitting - to respond to comments from the other sides on articles in journals, though I rarely engage on your home base, which seems needlessly provocative. I certainly do have a strong view on vaccine compliance: while I do not support mandatory laws (laws imposing fines and penalties on those not vaccinating), I support tight school attendance requirements and other mechanisms for encouraging compliance. But it is unfair to characterize this as shutting down people: nobody is preventing McCarthy - or anyone else - from voicing an opinion, and she - and you - do so in many forums. The opposition to her role on The View is because of the apparent legitimacy it confers on her opinions - not as an attempt to shut her up. She still has multiple forums to express her opinions, and I would certainly not deny her her right to free speech. On the other hand, I too can exercise my right to free speech and mobilize to get a private network not to hire her.

Me: No, that's doubletalk. Her opinions are perfectly legitimate - she speaks from experience, and she asks for the vaccine program to be made safer - what could possibly be more moderate or reasonable? The basic point is that you want a say on what is legitimate. People who don't jump into line must be excluded from public life, shoved to the margins.

It's perfectly reasonable to debate the pros and cons of vaccines in a blog and it ought to be on TV too…

Dorit:.. It's not double talk: free speech does not entitle one to a public, televised platform. Jenny McCarthy provides unfounded, problematic health advice - on vaccine and other things. I won't support shutting her up, but I do protest against putting her on the show.

Me: No, you say it is unfounded, and you want to say it is unfounded in the case of every single parent who speaks up, but you weren't there - and frankly it is a bit of a nerve. The reality is that vaccines cause brain damage and they cause autism:

After the Hannah Poling case Julie Gerberding, at the time head of the CDC but now of Merck's vaccine division was forced to admit:

“….. if you’re predisposed with the mitochondrial disorder, it [vaccination] can certainly set off some damage. Some of the symptoms can be symptoms that have characteristics of autism.”.

While Vaccine Injury Compensation Program officials told Sharyl Attkisson:

"The government has never compensated, nor has it ever been ordered to compensate, any case based on a determination that autism was actually caused by vaccines. We have compensated cases in which children exhibited an encephalopathy, or general brain disease. Encephalopathy may be accompanied by a medical progression of an array of symptoms including autistic behavior, autism, or seizures."

But apparently you know better, and you know better in every single case.

Dorit: As to the cases: encephalopathy is not autism (nor is encephalitis) (see question 6 here: http://www.neuro.jhmi.edu/neuroimmunopath/autism_faqs.htm) A mitochondrial disorder is not autism, even if some of the symptoms are similar. As these studies show, it is not clearly connected to autism: http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1471-2350-12-50.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21404085 The fact that a child has both encephalitis and autism does not negate this. And to remind you, vaccine preventable diseases also cause encephalitis - at much higher rates than vaccines - and can also be horrible to children with mitochondrial disorders. So if those conditions translate to autism, the absence of vaccines would increase rates. But they're not autism, nor contribute to it.

Liquidambar: Dorit;

Autism is just the psych term of what you got left after a vaccine injury.

Me: No one said encephalopathy is autism - straw man argument. 'Liquidambar' is right too: autism may not be the exclusive cause of autism but it is matter of the brain injury resulting in autism (which is a non-specific group of neurological impairments), and the officials admit that it happens.

Of course, now we have an autism rate of about 1 in 50 so the issue of vaccinated vs unvaccinated is very pressing.

Dorit: I wasn't there. But frankly, being there means the parent can offer excellent testimony on…what happened (allowing for the natural limitations of perception and memory that apply to every eyewitness account, especially something this charged). They are less able to address the why, because they don't have the perspective of background rates and other potential causes: those things are invisible. And I've no doubt saying this hurts the parents, and if there's one thing I regret here is that pain: it can't be pleasant to hear, again and again, you are wrong about something this important to your heart. But I will still say it, for two reasons: A. Parents who believe vaccines caused their child's autism feel guilt for allow the child to be vaccinated and bitterness at others. I think it's important to remind parents that there is no evidence for that link because it's not fair to the parents to leave them with those emotions, when it's contrary to the evidence. B. Not vaccinating leaves children at risk of vaccine preventable diseases. That's dangerous. Leaving children at that risk without evidence of a link, and with evidence to the contrary is worse. I think it's important to point out the flaws and provide the information to correct that. But I do understand that it hits a nerve, and wish there was a way to make the argument without that.

Liquidambar: Nope you were not there, as I kept vaccinating and kept seeing reactions that even the vaccine inserts says to talk to your doctor about. But something is wrong with the doctors - they did not listen untill a stroke like event

I think that is called rechallenged isn't it?

Me: Almost immediately above I have posted statements by US government official[s] admitting that vaccination can give rise to autisms - it is certainly possible and certainly happens. I guess you don't like being told your wrong or having possible guilt foisted on you either, but relevance?
Dorit: Neither statement admits that vaccine cause autism, and both point out that compensation was not for autism.

Me: In bureaucrat-speak fairyland: autism is the effect of the injury. If there was no significant effect from the injury there would be no serious compensation.

Dorit: "Symptoms that can have characteristics of autism" and "autism-like" symptoms are not autism. Symptoms cross over between conditions. The fact that I can have nausea after I broke my arm and nausea because of morning sickness does not mean a broken arm is a pregnancy.

Me: This is completely wrong. - autism is entirely defined by it symptoms. If there were any difference between "autistic behaviour" and "autism" - only possibly a matter of degree - the HHS HRSA statement resolves it by naming both (as the result of vaccine induced brain injury) and also mentioning seizures, which alas often accompany autism. But as I have also pointed out the case for a brain injury would be hard to make out if there was no resulting impairment, so in principle the impairment is acknowledged too - has to be. What Dorit does here is demonstrate her total ignorance of autism diagnosis (which doesn't stop her pontificating).

Dorit: Autism is defined by its symptoms, but it has requirement - just having some of the symptoms, or something like the symptoms is not enough. http://www.autreat.com/dsm4-autism.html

Me: And your point is?

Dorit: Encephalopathy is not autism; encephalitis is not autism; a mitochondrial disorder is not autism; the government officials did not concede vaccines cause autism, in fact they said they did not. They did point out that some of the injuries cause by vaccines can have some of the symptoms of autism. In no case did the NVICP or another court in the U.S. compensate a child on the theory vaccines caused her autism. There is no credible evidence for such a link.

Me: Dorit, if you want to argue like that its up to you, and people can draw their own conclusions about your motives, but this is what they said:

"The government has never compensated, nor has it ever been ordered to compensate, any case based on a determination that autism was actually caused by vaccines. We have compensated cases in which children exhibited an encephalopathy, or general brain disease. Encephalopathy may be accompanied by a medical progression of an array of symptoms including autistic behavior, autism, or seizures."

Now, there is more than a touch of distinctions without differences about this (as Sharyl Attkisson was pointing out) but in so far as one can make sense of it the point is there is a mechanism (encephalopathy) which results in impairment (autistic behaviour, autism, seizures) and what you have to show is brain damage occurred as a result of the vaccine. But if there was no impairment it would be hard to argue that a case needed compensating, so they are forcing a point while admitting that autism is sometimes involved.

Also, it is worth noting that in the statement "autism" and "autistic behavior" are symptoms of encephalopathy ("encephalopathy may be accompanied by a medical progression of an array of symptoms including...") and there is no mention of "symptoms of autism", which is erroneously interpolated by you in order suggest it is not proper autism. But not only is this technically silly - another distinction without a difference - what concerns parents is not whether there is some Platonic ideal of autism to which their child's disability corresponds, but their often reasonable belief that their child has been damaged.

This conversation goes round in circles a few more times with Dorit splitting the same hairs. The government did not compensate the autism, they compensated the encephalopathy which caused the autism (but then if encephalopathy didn’t cause anything why compensate it?) And at the end of it is simply not clear why Jenny McCarthy would be unreasonable in believing that her child’s autism was caused by a vaccine, or why Dorit – who says she believes in free speech – is reasonable in wanting to ban Jenny from speaking in the mainstream media. Some might call it humbug, and who would I be to disagree?

The safety and effectiveness of vaccines, the case of Andrew Wakefield etc.

Me: There are lots of things which ought to be debated here - and now you are making a show of welcoming discussion but this has not been the pattern until this point.

My own contention over vaccines is not that they don't have benefits but they are neither as effective or as safe as you or the propaganda would have everyone believe: in fact the truth is decidedly messy and we don't have proper accountability. I suspect if you had your way it would be reduced to zero. But this is done by silencing people and that is not a scientific project.
Dorit: Obviously I also disagree with your claim that vaccines are not safe and effective and I think the evidence on this is very clear cut. I'm willing to discuss specific points with you.

Me: Well, there are a great many specific points to discuss and one is aggressive campaigns against parents or professionals who have spoken up about vaccine damage - that in itself is a way of distorting the evidence base. The problem with Andrew Wakefield was not the quality of his research but the fact that he listened to parents - that was what was intolerable. But as was shown in the English High Court last year - in the appeal of his senior colleague John Walker-Smith - there was nothing wrong with the Lancet paper which the UK General Medical Council skewered all three doctors on. Of course, it was a warning to everyone else who stepped out of line.

I was particularly sickened at the beginning of the year when GAVI/Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation successfully lobbied the UN to continue the use of thimerosal in vaccines on completely spurious arguments.

I sent Dr Larson 90 abstracts of pubmed studies condemning thimerosal to no avail. It is very easy to conduct studies which don't find anything but these were 90 which did.

That's two points. It's very late at night here.

Dorit: The last point about thimerosal - as pointed out, thimerosal in vaccines has actually been studied in relation to autism, and no harm actually found. Your studies seem to be a combination of animal studies and tissue studies, and the human studies examining the issue - and examining it in the context of vaccines - are stronger. I would also add that I'm not sure why you think it's possible to fake a negative result but not a positive one. Seems that either result could be arrived at in a valid or flawed manner, depending on the methodology.

Me: No, you can fake both positive and negative but it is easy to design studies poorly to obtain indeterminate results. This critique by Brian Hooker of two recent CDC studies is very telling, and nobody of any sense came to defend them.

Dorit fails to respond to the Hooker question and moves on to Andrew Wakefield (with something of a concession):

Dorit: I think your description of the Walker-Smith decision is incomplete. It is true that the judge found the council did not have evidence that the procedures performed on the children were clinically unjustified, and that may affect Wakefield's case; but the judge's overturning of the guilt for misrepresenting the ethic's committee approval was based on Wakefield changing the article after the last draft Walker-Smith saw - basically, on Wakefield misrepresenting the facts behind his co-authors back, and that is not an exoneration of Wakefield, quite the contrary. Similarly, the Walker-Smith decision does not address Wakefield hiding conflicts of interest and the other problems.

However, silence reigns again when I demonstrate that there is nothing in the ethical approval issue to incriminate Wakefield either:

Me: I think John Walker-Smith missed it because there wasn't much to see:

"Ethical approval and consent

"Investigations were approved by the Ethical Practices Committee of the Royal Free Hospital NHS Trust, and parents gave informed consent."

The investigations needed ethical approval and had them and the paper did not have ethical approval and did not need it. The statement does not say the paper had ethical approval. Nor was it commissioned by the Legal Aid Board or based on their protocol, so no conflict there. Nor was it the convention in that period to declare court work as a competing interest.

Perhaps Dorit might like to consider how people’s lives can be unfairly and erroneously trashed when they stand up against governments or industry, and wonder whether this is really the nice side to be on.

Paul Offit and rotavirus vaccine

I did not raise this but of course Offit is one of the four professional advisors of VFV. It was, of course, a VFV predecessor of Karen Ernst (and fellow St Paul citizen) Lisa Randall who in 2008 went after Sharyl Attkisson of CBS News because of her report on Offit, through Orange County Record who, finally – in 2011 – published a retraction:

An OC Register article dated Aug. 4, 2008 entitled “Dr. Paul Offit Responds” contained several disparaging statements that Dr. Offit of Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia made about CBS News Investigative Correspondent Sharyl Attkisson and her report. Upon further review, it appears that a number of Dr. Offit’s statements, as quoted in the OC Register article, were unsubstantiated and/or false. Attkisson had previously reported on the vaccine industry ties of Dr. Offit and others in a CBS Evening News report “How Independent Are Vaccine Defenders?”

July 25, 2008.

Unsubstantiated statements include: Offit’s claim that Attkisson “lied”; and Offit’s claim that CBS News sent a “mean spirited and vituperative” email “over the signature of Sharyl Attkisson” stating “You’re clearly hiding something.” In fact, the OC Register has no evidence to support those claims. Further, Offit told the OC Register that he provided CBS News “the details of his relationship, and Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia’s relationship, with pharmaceutical company Merck.” However, documents provided by CBS News indicate Offit did not disclose his financial relationships with Merck, including a $1.5 million Hilleman chair he sits in that is co-sponsored by Merck. According to the CBS News’ documentation recently reviewed by the OC Register, the network requested (but Offit did not disclose) the entire profile of his professional financial relationships with pharmaceutical companies including: The amount of compensation he’d received from which companies in speaking fees; and pharmaceutical consulting relationships and fees. The CBS News documentation indicates Offit also did not disclose his share of past and future royalties for the Merck vaccine he co-invented. To the extent that unsubstantiated and/or false claims appeared in the OC Register and have been repeated by other organizations and individuals, the OC Register wishes to express this clarification for their reference and for the record"

Anyway Liquidambar raised the issue of Offit’s rotavirus vaccine conflict:

Liquidambar: Get paid for your work - is fine, but how often is it that you get to actually vote on your own work and force it upon everyone because it is made mandatory. He got a hefty some for his work too - 6 million I do believe.

Dorit: How can they vote to make their work mandatory?

Me: "Unlike most other patented products, the market for mandated childhood vaccines is created not by consumer demand, but by the recommendation of an appointed body called the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP). In a single vote, ACIP can create a commercial market for a new vaccine that is worth hundreds of millions of dollars in a matter of months. For example, after ACIP approved the addition of Merck’s (and Offit’s) Rotateq vaccine to the childhood vaccination schedule, Merck’s Rotateq revenue rose from zero in the beginning of 2006 to $655 million in fiscal year 2008. When one multiplies a price of close to $200 per three dose series of Rotateq by a mandated market of four million children per year, it’s not hard to see the commercial value to Merck of favorable ACIP votes.

"From 1998 to 2003, Offit served as a member of ACIP. Before and during his ACIP term, Offit was involved in rotavirus vaccine development activities, the value of which ACIP influenced. Shortly before his term began in October 1998, Offit’s first two rotavirus patents were granted by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, the first on May 6, 1997 and the second on May 12, 1998. During his ACIP term, Offit received two additional patents in 2000 and 2001"

Dorit: It's a little unclear whether your insinuations about Dr. Offit stem from your feeling that he voted on his personal interests or because you see him as representing Merck. At any case, they are incorrect:

A. Dr. Offit does not hold the patent for Rotateq - CHOP does. After the initial payment, he does not get royalties (and I am sure you don't begrudge a man payment for 25 years work, work that resulted in a vaccine with the potential to save hundreds of thousands of lives), so he does not have a financial stake in the success of the vaccine.

B. As you yourself point out, Dr. Offit stopped serving on ACIP in 2003 and the Rotateq vaccine was voted in later. He was not involved.

C. Dr. Offit does not work for Merck - as is pretty easy to find, he works in the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia and for Penn Medical School. He does not depend on Merck for his salary.
Me: I should have included the next paragraph:

"Four months before Offit was appointed to ACIP in October 1998, the committee had voted to give the rotavirus category a “Routine Vaccination” status, in anticipation of an FDA approval of RotaShield (oddly, ACIP made this vote before the FDA approved Wyeth’s RotaShield vaccine on October 1, 1998). Shortly after Offit’s term began, there were several additional votes involved in establishing the rotavirus vaccine market and Offit voted yes in every case. In May of 1999, the CDC published its revised childhood vaccination schedule and rotavirus vaccine was included. This series of favorable votes clearly enhanced the monetary value of Offit’s stake in Merck’s rotavirus vaccine, which was five years into clinical trials."

Dorit: So the vaccine was added to the schedule before Offit joined, and he had to decide on specific issues after the facts, issues related to a vaccine that was not his - was, in fact, a competitor - while his vaccine was still in trials, behind in market entry. Sorry, not very good evidence of a conspiracy or capture.

Dorit: It is true that the CDC's ACIP approves - and removes approval - from vaccines. For example, after concerns about intussusception arose from Rotashield, that vaccine was removed from the market - and removal from the market (like in this case), and non-recommendations - for example, not recommending meningococcal C for infants - is good evidence that ACIP does not blindly stamp industry recommendations and is not captured.

Me: Even better for Paul O. His product also has a big record with intussusception.

Found 914 events where Vaccine is RV5 and Symptom is Intussusception

Found 7 events where Vaccine is RV5 and Symptom is Intussusception and Patient Died

Found 266 events where Vaccine is RV5 and Patient Died

Of course, VAERS is only passive surveillance and is likely only to record a small percentage of incidents.

Dorit: Actually, to remind you, Rotateq tested for intussusception in the clinical trials, and the rate was lower for the vaccine group than the placebo group. The CDC examined the VAERS incidence, and it was found no higher than the background rate - remember, intussusception does happen naturally - which leads to the conclusion that rotateq does not cause intussusception, that we're just seeing the regular rate. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafe.... And again, this whole incidence is evidence of how seriously real problems with vaccines are treated: a serious adverse event was discovered in one out of 10,000 children with Rotashield; the vaccine was removed from market; the new vaccines were tested to make sure they don't cause the same problem. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vp.... This is pretty good evidence that there is no capture and the system works.

Me: And post-marketing monitoring? The spirit of the three wise monkey reigns!

In the UK we are just about to get rotavirus vaccine (the GSK version) so it is quite interesting to look at our Health Protection Agency charts - it seems to be fairly consistently around 15,000 lab confirmed cases a year (connected with hospital admissions). That's a lot, but what I don't see are any associated deaths (unlike the vaccines).

I should have said post-market monitoring seemed to have worked better in the case of Rotashield than Offit’s Rotateq but raising the issue that the vaccine seemed more associated with death than disease was once again met with Dorit’s silence.

I have not reported every aspect of the discussion: for instance Dorit’s hobby horse about suing parents who do not vaccinate for infection, as against the problem of vaccines that shed and spread infection (for instance the nasal flu vaccine Flumist/Fluenz), nor our exchanges about genetic research. But it was an interesting and ultimately revealing dialogue, which perhaps I enjoyed more than she did.

John Stone is UK Editor for Age of Autism.

Dorit speaking at 33:30
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Houman

2nd May 2015, 07:16

Dollars for Docs
https://projects.propublica.org/docdollars/

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Houman

2nd May 2015, 19:43

Dr Wakefield
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Hear The Silence - Dr Andrew Wakefield, The Real Story
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Houman

2nd May 2015, 23:21

The science is very clear on the subject when done published by independent researchers... vaccines are inducing chronic autoimmune diseases
http://shoemakerassociates.com/documents/girard-autoimmiunehazardsofhepbvaccine.pdf

Autoimmune hazards of hepatitis B vaccine

Girard M.

Abstract

According to Hippocratic tradition, the safety level of a preventive medicine must be very high, as it is aimed at protecting people against diseases that they may not contract. This paper points out that information on the safety of hepatitis B vaccine (HBV) is biased as compared to classical requirements of evidence-based medicine (EBM), as exemplified by a documented selectivity in the presentation or even publication of available clinical or epidemiological data. Then, a review is made of data suggesting that HBV is remarkable by the frequency, the severity and the variety of its complications, some of them probably related to a mechanism of molecular mimicry leading to demyelinating diseases, and the others reproducing the spectrum of non-hepatic manifestations of natural hepatitis B. To be explained, this unusual spectrum of toxicity requires additional investigations based upon complete release of available data.

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Strangely enough, for cost-effective as it is,
the pharmaceutical sector of vaccine development
remains far from the elementary requirements of
evidence-based medicine (EBM) [1]. Whereas personal
experience suggested that editors, even in
leading medical journal, show a regrettable selectivity
in publishing papers on this topics, this has been clearly confirmed by the huge delay between the
preliminary publication of Hernan’s et al. results on
the neurological hazards of hepatitis B vaccine
(HBV) [2] and their final paper [3] while in the
meantime, other investigations of the same team were
published and given media coverage without apparent
difficulty as they gave good arguments favouring
vaccine safety [4]; in parallel, a number of papers of
problematic relevance were published to support the
safety of HBV vaccine. . . . Another example:
whereas for any person with a minimum of medical
awareness, the auto-immune risk of vaccination (and,
even more, of multiple vaccinations) seems obvious,
it is rather strange that the classical duration of safety
studies from vaccine development does not go
beyond 4 days on average, as performing the majority
of clinical trials in high endemic countries does not
optimise the guarantee of systematic long-term
follow-up [1]. bTo be sure, vaccination is starting to
emerge as a more complex issue than previously
considered [5].

In a series of important papers [5–11], Shoenfeld
et al. have given credibility to the bugly of
vaccinationQ [5] and shown that it can certainly be
considered as ban additional player in the mosaic of
autoimmunityQ [6]. Regrettably however, clinical
evidence supporting their views is difficult to review
since, as above mentioned, the game of circulation of
information in vaccinotherapy does not comply with
the basic EBM rules of transparency, exhaustiveness
and differential validation: a number of researchers
echoed the reassuring purpose of the French agency
about the supposedly negative results of Touze´ et al.
[12] regarding the risk of multiple sclerosis (MS)
after HBV, without noticing that the statistical power
of this investigation was inadmissibly low (35% for
an odd-ratio of 2. . .) In contrast, none of them was
informed that the same agency performed two case/
control studies on the risk of lupus and of Graves’
disease after HBV which both gave statistically
significant results (February 2000 public report) but
were never published....

Take-home messages

! Modern vaccine research and development does
not comply with basic requirements of evidencebased
medicine (EBM).
! A number of clinical or epidemiological data on
the safety hepatitis B vaccine (HBV) have not
been published and do not seem to be.
! For a drug used as a prevention, HBV is
remarkable by the unusual frequency, severity
and variety of its hazards.
! There is an impressive convergence of data given
credibility to a potential of this vaccine to induce
severe and irreversible central demyelinating
disorders.

http://shoemakerassociates.com/documents/girard-autoimmiunehazardsofhepbvaccine.pdf

Houman

3rd May 2015, 06:52

The moral justification of the "greater good" is identical to that of "human sacrifice": kill a few to protect the many

http://www.whale.to/b/020105bgrove6.jpg

the people involved in the cult of vaccinology would have probably approved human sacrifice if their priest class had told them that a few randomly selected individuals must die so that the majority of the herd may be protected...

Houman

4th May 2015, 01:33

Those who forget history are bound to repeat it....

The following book is 100 years old (it contains a quite revealing debate on mandatory vaccination)
http://my.vactruth.com/library/free/vaccination_exposed.pdf

http://my.vactruth.com/library/free/vaccination_exposed.pdf

Houman

4th May 2015, 04:34

Even the Council For Foreign Relations is in the game now
http://www.cfr.org/interactives/GH_Vaccine_Map/#intro
This recent article is from 2 CFR members http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20141102/OPINION03/141109943

Houman

4th May 2015, 19:02

Recent interview of Dr Wakefield by Dr Gary Null

http://s50.podbean.com/pb/246803dfea0e21e0a8c21ca94bc1acaa/5541c2a7/data2/blogs18/276663/uploads/GaryNullShow_53_040915.mp3
http://s50.podbean.com/pb/246803dfea0e21e0a8c21ca94bc1acaa/5541c2a7/data2/blogs18/276663/uploads/GaryNullShow_53_040915.mp3

Houman

6th May 2015, 17:15

One mechanism of injury: mess up the microbiome...

The Invisible Universe Of The Human Microbiome
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The next time you look in a mirror, think about this: In many ways you're more microbe than human. There are 10 times more cells from microorganisms like bacteria and fungi in and on our bodies than there are human cells

Flash

6th May 2015, 19:44

Dr Wakefield
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Hear The Silence - Dr Andrew Wakefield, The Real Story
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I started listening to Hear the silence movie, where the mom start researching why her child has autism, looks at pictures, looks at videos, realised that he reacted at such and such a time, after vaccination, and I could not keep listening.

My daughter reacted with lots of spasm at her first vaccination at 3 months old, and I did not realised what was going on, I brought her to an ostheopath (it is written in her file) Then, later on, she said her first word on time, had bright eyes. By 21/2 years old, she had followed the North American regimen of vaccination. She was not speaking much, had 2 standard déviations below normal (this is a lot) gross motor and fine motor skills impairment and had lost eye contact.

By 4, she was diagnosed with severe receptive and emittive dyspahsia (a kind of aphasia) plus the gross motor skills impairment and a potential autism. By 7, she was refused in a school for Learning disable because they thought she was autistic. I went to the school directed and begged her to take my daughter in, saying that if it does not work, I will take her out. It did work, she was able to go through schooling.

In the meantime, I was doing exactly like that mom, researching the internet for cures, over and over again, throughout the world. I found many thing, made a ten years plan and checked at the cost, while divorcing, having the dad accusing me of making it up. The cost was very high. So i tried to see what I could do to make such expenses for thérapies and decided to go free lance to make as much money as possible, to pay thérapies. Made a lot, brought her all over, followed my plan (in part based on Jenny McCarthy's group of parents) with some déviations for lack of money. It was sooooooo tough. And lonely. Against all the medical world. Against the dad who did not want to spend much. But with soooo much love, anything for her.

And it was soooooo tough on her, so difficult. She went through hell, accepting to do what i asked, which was way over what normal children are demanded to do, because of extreme brain stimulation. She did it because she loved her mom and did not want to disappoint me (even if without eye contact). She still have light problems, but only her and I know what she went through and what little remains in impediment.

And now, I realised this could have been all avoided if I had refused the subsequent vaccines, after seeing the effect of the first one. I do feel very guilty.

I know I am boring with my story, but you would not imagine how difficult it is for the child in that situation.

When they finally can talk, at least mine, she would tell me in which kind of jail she was, how she felt like being behind her own body jail bars, looking on the outside, not able to be with it (this is now how she expresses the feelings). Those children suffer a lot.

And it is tough for moms too.

I Wonder which kind of karma those in the pharmaceutical industry, making the vaccine, researchers doing the research and signing incomplete or false data, the salesmen knowing it is not sure research, the administrators who hear the gossips, all those people who do F. .. NOTHING, how will their karma be? How will they pay for their lasting cowardness? And for the Rumsfeld and others owners, karma is a bitch.

That woman in that movie did exactly what I did, and I did even more.

AUTISM CAN BE CURED

Houman

7th May 2015, 18:33

Thanks for your post Flash, R. Kennedy gave a talk today in which he accurately mentioned that "The ONLY protections children have right now from the pharmaceutical industry malpractices are THE PARENTS and they want to Remove the parents from the equation to continue to sell unsafe vaccines by trying to pass over 101 laws across the nation simultaneously, as we speak."
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Make no mistake, the adults are right next in line, see the following "national adult immunization plan" by DHSS
http://www.hhs.gov/nvpo/national_adult_immunization_plan_draft.pdf

If people comply with these laws they will have no control over AND no understanding of what could be injected into their bodies. With the current state of technology they could literally engineer a subclass of humans based on genetic markers (or kill/sterilize whoever they want with a controlled and delayed effect). People don't understand that vaccine formulations and data are of restricted access (i.e. there is no independent nor open science in this area).

Houman

Houman

8th May 2015, 17:05

Criminal CDC vaccine researcher Merge
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Aluminum, vaccines, and fetal brain development, with Dr. Suzanne Humphries
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Obama Revision to FOIA Rules Keeps Evidence of Vaccine Dangers From Public
http://www.occupycorporatism.com/obama-revision-to-foia-rules-keeps-evidence-of-vaccine-dangers-from-public/

Houman

8th May 2015, 19:47

Meet the scientist behind 95% of the studies that CDC claims disprove link between vaccination and autism
http://www.dagens.dk/sites/default/files/field/image/Poul%20Thorsen.png

Houman

13th May 2015, 02:46

As planned now they are going nationwide... the final outcome of this situation will either wake people up or break them... it is interesting how it could also be seen as an explicit manifestation of all the warnings in Locke's book "The end of all evil" (which contains a very simple solution)

H.R.2232 - Vaccinate All Children Act of 2015
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/2232/text
Introduced in House (05/01/2015)

Note the added restrictions on medical exemptions

" “(2) EXCEPTION FOR CHILD’S HEALTH.—The funding condition described in paragraph (1) shall not apply with respect to a student if a duly registered and licensed physician submits a written certification at the beginning of the school year to the individual in charge of the health program at the student’s school—

“(A) certifying that the physician has personally examined the student during the preceding 12 months; and

“(B) certifying that, in the physician’s opinion, the physical condition of the student is such that the student’s health would be endangered by the vaccination involved; and

“(C) demonstrating (to the satisfaction of the individual in charge of the health program at the student’s school) that the physician’s opinion conforms to the accepted standard of medical care. "

The (C) point could actually be used to completely get rid of medical exemption by appointing at a federal/state level "an individual in charge of the health program"

Houman

13th May 2015, 20:33

Dr Wakefield Apr 29, 2015
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Bought the movie
http://www.boughtmovie.com/free-viewing/watch.php?

Houman

17th May 2015, 03:25

gigha

17th May 2015, 08:49

That may take a lifetime. Lol

Nag Hammadi Codices:
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html

“The Archons came to Adam. When they saw Eve talking to him they said to each other, ‘What sort of creature is this luminous woman?’ … Now come, let us lay hold of her and cast our seed into her, that she may become soiled and unable to access her inner light. Then those who she bears will be under our charge… But Eve, being a free power, laughed at their decision. She put mist in their eyes [and escaped them].” (The Origin of the World, 116)

Thank you for taking the time to put down all this information in an easily accessible and understandable way. I will spend a good deal of time researching all this!

Houman

18th May 2015, 05:05

Why CDC won't do the study comparing vaccinaed vs unvaccinated according to CDC itself

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The truth is that they have already done it... it is simply not published...

Limor Wolf

18th May 2015, 06:58

Do you know what human DNA in vaccines does to you? Well you are not the only one if you don't, the scientists in charge of the safety studies don't either...
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by the way it is in your soft drinks too...
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/07/10/this-shocking-fact-is-never-disclosed-on-any-vaccine-informed-consent-form.aspx

"why don't you listen?"... "We have failed to deliver, the curve is actually going in the wrong direction.."

It looks as if standing before any commettee these days, be it NIH or other institution is unfortunately a failure from the beginning. People's hands are tied, and their minds are under chains as well. DNA mutation as a result of injecting foreign DNA to one's own body is an outcome of (at best) ignorance on the workings of the biology and physicality level of the body and more sufficiently a deliberate act of evil, a one that ignores the statistics, ignores the risks and the damage to the immune system especially in children, as oppose to boosting it, and is accompanied by severe brain washing of society to cooperate with the enforcement of harmful substances that have nothing to do with the support of our humans body system.

This question was raised by me (in writing) at the Zurich conference in 2009, where concernes about governmental forced vaccinations were high (obviously a many years predetermined contingency plan..), and the response by Dan Burisch - a scientist who supported vaccinations at certain cases has caused quite a commotion by the audience. (From 03:00)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK7xxuJBTnE

The only answer may be to completely refuse to take any of it, at whatever cost. And to forward the excellent work that people like Dr Wakefield and many others are doing. Houman's contribution here is one of those educational attempts.

Houman

21st May 2015, 06:16

Thanks Limor. This is no accident, it is deliberate and coordinated.

Another bill has just been drafted: "Safe and Accurate Food Labeling Act" (H.R.1599), which would prohibit states from requiring the labeling of genetically engineered foods.

The problem is not with the people doing it (given that they eat feces and babies in their rituals there isn't much to expect from them) but with the complete indifference of the majority.

Houman

21st May 2015, 06:19

The Gut and Psychology Syndrome
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Limor Wolf

22nd May 2015, 04:28

The problem is not with the people doing it (given that they eat feces and babies in their rituals there isn't much to expect from them) but with the complete indifference of the majority.

There is quite a heavy control on people's minds, behaviours and perceptions for millenia, therefore there's some heavy lifting to do..

But also, If I may,

from the witness (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB6BMDB9mfw)-

"To control a duality, one must themselves also be a part of it - and the paradoxical lessons for the decievers is that the controller IS the controlled..

The "guards" must simply go on denying that they are also in prison themselves"

I will add that the ones who needs most control are often the ones who within themselves lack any of it.

arwen

24th May 2015, 09:52

Six Books (and one Blog) Bill Gates wants you to read this summer (http://www.openculture.com/2015/05/six-books-and-one-blog-bill-gates-wants-you-to-read-this-summer.html)

Extract:

On Immunity , by Eula Biss (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1555976891/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1555976891&linkCode=as2&tag=openculture-20&linkId=WWR5O5PFEUDUDDEY). When I stumbled across this book on the Internet, I thought it might be a worthwhile read. I had no idea what a pleasure reading it would be. Biss, an essayist and university lecturer, examines what lies behind people’s fears of vaccinating their children. Like many of us, she concludes that vaccines are safe, effective, and almost miraculous tools for protecting children against needless suffering. But she is not out to demonize anyone who holds opposing views. This is a thoughtful and beautifully written book about a very important topic.

Gates Foundation Vaccine Delivery (http://www.gatesfoundation.org/What-We-Do/Global-Development/Vaccine-Delivery)

Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Vaccine Empire on Trial in India (http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/bill-melinda-gates-foundation-vaccine-empire-on-trial-in-india/)

Extract:

Kumar starts out his 4 page article by focusing on the current case before the India Supreme Court regarding deaths and injuries occurring during drug trials carried out over Merck’s HPV vaccine Gardasil. Vaccine trials were conducted on thousands of girls between the ages of 9 and 15. Many of the girls fell ill, and at least 7 died, and the lawsuit is alleging that in most of these cases, the girls and their parents did not even know what kind of vaccine trial they were participating in.

Gates Foundation Uses Art to Encourage Vaccination (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/07/arts/design/gates-foundation-uses-art-to-encourage-vaccination.html?_r=0)

131 African Children Vaccinated at Gunpoint – Do Bill Gates and Paul Offit Approve? (http://healthimpactnews.com/2011/131-african-children-vaccinated-at-gunpoint-do-bill-gates-and-paul-offit-approve/#sthash.IaSP1uTg.dpuf)

Depopulation Africa: Paralyzing Vaccine Deaths 47,500 with 50 More Children Recently Paralyzed With Bill Gates Meningitis Vaccine (http://www.theeventchronicle.com/study/depopulation-africa-paralyzing-vaccine-deaths-47500-50-children-recently-paralyzed-bill-gates-meningitis-vaccine/)

With Vaccines, Bill Gates Changes The World Again (http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2011/11/02/the-second-coming-of-bill-gates/)

Enough said.

Houman

24th May 2015, 23:36

Vaccines + GMOs + Glyphosate = 50% of children born in 10 years from now will have autism
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Both the vaccine industry and Monsanto have been shielded from any liability

Is someone getting ready for the cognitively dissonant majority (http://www.nvic.org/informed-consent/promoting-vaccination.aspx ) to wake up by then? (when they realize what has been done to them and their children)
http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/targets-no-more-hesitation-gun-owners.jpg

Houman

25th May 2015, 04:16

Dr. Stephanie Seneff on Glyphosate biological effects (effects of weaponized of food). "Increasingly, glyphosate is being used as a "ripener" for wheat, sugarcane, barley and other crops leading to an alarming increase of this pesticide in our food."
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Houman

25th May 2015, 05:54

Spontaneous Integration of Human DNA Fragments into Host Genome (from vaccination)
http://s3.amazonaws.com/soundchoice/soundchoice/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/DNA_Contaminants_in_Vaccines_Can_Integrate_Into_Childrens_Genes.pdf
http://s3.amazonaws.com/soundchoice/soundchoice/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/DNA_Contaminants_in_Vaccines_Can_Integrate_Into_Childrens_Genes.pdf

Flash

25th May 2015, 12:48

Houman we must do a vaccination thread, what you found is extraordinary.

Just reading this last report make me Dizzy. Not only are they modifying the genes or our children for générations to come with contaminated human fetal cells, but also with dozens of animal cells.

Just to name a few:

15% fetal bovine serum (FBS) and 1% antibiotic-antimycotic solution
750ng of Cy3 labeled Human Cot1 DNA
Loosely adherent NCCIT (teratocarcinoma) - read cancer
HFF1 (Human Foreskin Fibroblast 1) - yes, foreskin cells, have you male child foreskin cut for religious purposes and here it comes, in the next vaccine, and you probably have never been paid for his foreskin
M059K (Glioblastoma-Double Stranded Break repair proficient) and M059J (Glioblastoma-Double Stranded Break repair deficient) - those are the different brands of DNA injected into our child, one of these impairing the DNA repair functions in the child receiving the vaccine

The experiment:
after growing the cells above Under specific températures, they modeled inflammation - because they believe those children catching autism have inflammation to start with, prior to vaccination, and put the cells together, as in the vaccine, at human body temperature

Results

Spontaneous cellular and nuclear DNA uptake was evident

For some there were:

Spontaneous Cellular uptake
Spontaneous Nuclear uptake
Incorporation in Genomic DNA
Cellular /Nuclear Uptake with LPS or saponin

THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT THE INCORPORATIONS OF THESE SCRAP DNA FROM ANIMALS AND HUMAN FORESKIN WERE NOT PLANNED AND KNOWINGLY DONE.
ADD TO THIS AN ALREADY FRAGILISED BABY THROUGH ENVIRONMENT TOXICITY AND TOXICITY OF THE MOTHER because of glycophase and Monsanto amongst others things and the time bomb is perfected.

This is the first time that I think there is nothing to do with those humans planning these and that they ought to be transferred to a mental hospital and be kept Under key. I mean spiritual as well as physical keys.

Those who had to work with autism and an array of mental / physical diseases created by these willfully planned transformation of our specie know how time consuming it is. When in this situation, you have no time for anything else and it is the women mostly, those who could do something for humanity, who are time / emotions caught with this.

Melinda

25th May 2015, 15:47

...She went through hell, accepting to do what i asked, which was way over what normal children are demanded to do, because of extreme brain stimulation. She did it because she loved her mom and did not want to disappoint me (even if without eye contact). She still have light problems, but only her and I know what she went through and what little remains in impediment.

And now, I realised this could have been all avoided if I had refused the subsequent vaccines, after seeing the effect of the first one. I do feel very guilty.

I know I am boring with my story, but you would not imagine how difficult it is for the child in that situation...

There was nothing boring about that post Flash. Not for me. You may have written your story elsewhere, but it is significant and I was moved to read it. More strength to you and your daughter.

Also, thank you Houman for your recent vaccination posts. There's a great deal of important content on this thread. Really appreciate it.

Houman

26th May 2015, 03:46

Yes Flash.They know what they are doing, this generation has a lower life expectancy than the previous one... (according to CDC)
Foreign DNA incorporation is not limited to vaccination, it also occurs with GMOs (your own cells or the bacteria in your gut can uptake these and start producing foreign proteins in your body)
The following interview of Dr. Don Huber on GMOs and glyphosate is quite informative on these mechanisms
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Timewaster

26th May 2015, 12:41

https://www.facebook.com/146634335373430/videos/vb.146634335373430/876072102429646/?type=2&theater

Poor girl looks posessed. you may have to be on facebook to watch

Houman

31st May 2015, 16:15

Dr John Rengen Virapen former Eli & co executive turned whistleblower
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Limor Wolf

31st May 2015, 18:39

Dr John Rengen Virapen former Eli & co executive turned whistleblower
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The Eli Lilly whistleblower video has caused quite a stir in the medical world, and was watched by many millions around the world, it really did a great service

Another one is Gwen Olsen who has worked in the American pharmaceutical industry for 15 years as a sales agent, and since then was a writer and speaker on the subject

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AazObF_pHSU
Dr David Ayoub - An American physician speaks about the vaccines agenda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQnTVD4CR8c

One of the most influential 'whistleblowing' articles was published by Dr Marcia Angel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcia_Angell) - A Former senior editor of the Well known and highly Prestigious "New England Journal of medicine" (http://www.nejm.org/), she exposed the corruption and brainwashing that is going on in the health system.

In the article she talks about her decades of experience with the Medical industry and the inappropriate relationship between pharmaceutical companies, the lobbyists they employ and the brainwashing and pressure on doctors to sell their drugs to the public.

The article was entitled: "Drug companies and Doctors:The story of corruption" (http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2009/jan/15/drug-companies-doctorsa-story-of-corruption/?page=1).

Marcia has an MD and also holds degrees in chemistry, mathematics and microbiology and is expertised in pathology, she was regarded in the past as one of the most influential women in the United States.

In some of her statements from the article she says:

"since the pharmaceutical industry has no direct access to people,The medical people are the link and they are heavily influenced by brainwashing. This industry rolles some enormous amounts of money on the backs of the patients.
Drug companies insist as a condition for providing funds that they will be intimately involved in all aspects of the study, they are the sponsors and they can easily tilt things in their favor, so their medications seem more reliable and secure than what they are in actuality. Therefore, it is not surprising that industry-funded studies published in medical journals, consistently biased in favor of drugs that receive positive results.On the negative results we rarely hear".

And that comes from someone who worked for the medical system for many years!

She also gave quite a few examples, one of them was how a research is being diverted:

"reasonably,many drugs that are assumed to be useful,are only slightly better than placebo,but there is No way to know for sure because this information is actually hidden.an indication for that was provided six years ago by four researchers wich insisted on having, through the 'Freedom of Information Act' the FDA review comparing between antidepressants including Prozac, Zoloft and Celexa as with that of the placebo. They found that the placebo was 80% as effective as drugs, ie the difference was so little likely that it has not much clinical significance. The public and the medical professionals on the other hand are caused to believe that these drugs are powerful antidepressants.

Dr Angle summarizes her conclusions at the end of the article in a few words:

"This issue of conflict of interest and biases in favor of companies that do the market research exists in almost every field of medicine,particularly those that rely on drugs or devices. It is simply no longer possible to believe the results of the published clinical studies, or to rely on the discretion of the doctors or the medical guidelines.I do not find any pleasure in this conclusion to which I slowly and reluctantly arrived over twenty years of work as a scientific journal editor " The New England journal of medicine."

Houman

4th June 2015, 06:38

Jeff Olsen Near Death Experience Story at IANDS
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Houman

4th June 2015, 06:51

By openly going after people's children they are catalyzing the emergence of a unified and focused group that may end up going after them
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/publicadvocate/2015/06/02/legal-actions-against-mandated-vaccines-estave-middleton-host-elkordy

Houman

5th June 2015, 03:08

https://youtu.be/p0TLsaCKCQs?t=23

Houman

5th June 2015, 22:22

Mark Passio on current moral degeneration
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Caylen

7th June 2015, 22:33

Excellent video Houman! We can get distracted on the pathway to truth. But the ultimate truth is within and that is the toughest, most agonizing path of all. If we are to be free, we must have the courage to take this path. Although each of us has to travel our path of self awareness and self actualization alone, we can act as cheerleaders for one another along the way.

UrbanAnthro

14th June 2015, 20:46

from
http://www.jayweidner.com/Archons.html

In 1947, texts were found in clay jars in Nag Hammadi in Egypt and, on these texts was a story of what the Nag Hammadi people, 2,000 years ago, thought the world was about.

....

I don't have a position on whether the Archon narrative is 'true' or not. In fact, I'm not sure what I believe in terms of ET phenomenon. My hat is firmly secure with the AI and technology front, but how and where it was developed is a complicated labrynth of storylines, decptions and half truths, as you all are aware. So, I'm just putting this out there. Is it possible that the Nag Hammadi texts were 'planted' in 1947 by Illuminati/Nazis with the intention for them to be found? This is the same year that the ET sitings and Nazi technological milestones. If they were, then they may or may not be 'tampered with.' They could be the originals or they might not be.

UrbanAnthro

15th June 2015, 16:59

ET/Archon Navigator

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UrbanAnthro

15th June 2015, 17:01

When Kundalini is raised from its dormant state, higher intelligence blossoms, and there are other effects as well. Gnostic sects such as the Ophites practiced the communal raising of Kundalini to produce an protective envelope against Archontic intrusion. In effect, they held Kundalini, the sexual-spiritual energy locked in the body structure, to be the main instrument of defense against the Archons. The Dialogue of the Savior, NHC III, 5 (85), contains this exchange:

Judas said, "Behold, The authorities (Archons) dwell above us, so it is they who will rule over us."
The savior said, "It is you who will rule over them. But only when you rid yourselves of jealousy, and take on the protection of the Light, and enter the nymphion (bridal chamber)."

**To me, this is key information....a critical key toward freedom

from
http://www.metahistory.org/gnostique/archonfiles/AlienDreaming.php

Alien Dreaming

The Enigma of the Archons

ET/Archon Navigator

jll Nov 2004

Houman

16th June 2015, 20:52

UrbanAnthro

17th June 2015, 14:09

Thank you for the learned response. It cannot be one individual. We have been deceived into accepting an individualized/atomized and distracted 'society' from which power, safety and sustainability cannot grow. From what I see, the solution cannot be through simple schemes of individualized attempts to combat mental, emotional, spiritual and physical attacks and oppression. They have successfully atomized human communities through vast and complex manipulative schemes. The result is alienation and anomie; ignorance and in turn, complicit participation in our own subjugation; and dormant and atrophied sexual and spiritual flows. Our pineal and pituitary glands are atrophied, while true knowledge is systematically and intensively hidden, selectively rationed in tiny nuggets that are wrapped in deception. Our ability to access spiritual power must come from reclaiming our communities and our collective bodies and minds.

Unfortunately, I am of the situation where it seems that the pursuit of knowledge is the only access point I have. This is a necessity of survival for many people who fear for their lives. And in turn, like for many people, for me, the individualized dance of resistance, for the purpose of survival, is brutal.

When Kundalini is raised from its dormant state, higher intelligence blossoms, and there are other effects as well. Gnostic sects such as the Ophites practiced the communal raising of Kundalini to produce an protective envelope against Archontic intrusion. In effect, they held Kundalini, the sexual-spiritual energy locked in the body structure, to be the main instrument of defense against the Archons. The Dialogue of the Savior, NHC III, 5 (85), contains this exchange:

Judas said, "Behold, The authorities (Archons) dwell above us, so it is they who will rule over us."
The savior said, "It is you who will rule over them. But only when you rid yourselves of jealousy, and take on the protection of the Light, and enter the nymphion (bridal chamber)."

**To me, this is key information....a critical key toward freedom

from
http://www.metahistory.org/gnostique/archonfiles/AlienDreaming.php

Alien Dreaming

The Enigma of the Archons

ET/Archon Navigator

jll Nov 2004

According to Locke's book (the end of evil) the solution is quite simple and doesn't require any "special powers"... just an understanding of spiritual/natural laws (which are very simple) and taking action on these (becoming moral adults and taking responsibility to reverse the current situation through focused intent/action)

Flash

17th June 2015, 17:08

From the Eyes of RA book page 11

I discovered that Ra was wearing a round, gold medallion around his neck. This gold medallion was
etched with the design of the Rising Sun.
The Rising Sun is an ancient as well as modem occultic symbol used by secret societies and conspiratorial groups. I
later remembered that there were seven tapered spikes on his headdress, indicating seven rays of light.http://www.projectavalon.net/Truman_Cash_The_Eye_of_Ra.pdf

and

http://jscms.jrn.columbia.edu/cns/2009-04-14/yolles-obamafont/obama.jpg/asset_small.jpg

Houman

20th June 2015, 03:36

On the Herv-K virus in vaccines
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http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0060605
Human-Specific HERV-K Insertion Causes Genomic Variations in the Human Genome

Houman

21st June 2015, 06:40

SB277 meeting featuring Min. Tony Muhammad, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and Dr. Brian Hooker
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Limor Wolf

21st June 2015, 07:28

SB277 meeting featuring Min. Tony Muhammad, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and Dr. Brian Hooker
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The California Bill SB277 would significantly tighten child vaccination requirements for school entry, a mandatory vaccination agenda of control and depopulation

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160SB277

"Thought I am smiling, this is not a gathering of individuals who are coming for something joyous, shall I say this is a very very evil and heinous attack on us as a human race, as as the human family, spiritual beings, without color or creed, because when the enemy comes after you they don't ask you if you are Christian, they don't ask you if you are a Jew, they don't ask you if you are a Muslim. We hear people getting shot down every day and they don't ask us- 'Hey, are you a Christian?' before they shot you, or 'Hey, are you a Muslim?' before they shot you, it doesn't happen this way.
And they definitely don't ask you when you are injected"

Houman

22nd June 2015, 03:36

""You never let a serious crisis go to waste"... I guess that it works both ways...
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Melinda

22nd June 2015, 17:08

""You never let a serious crisis go to waste"... I guess that it works both ways...
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Thank you for posting that video Houman. Almost brought me to tears.

Houman

25th June 2015, 23:21

Oh, it's on!
SB277 passed the assembly today, on George Orwell's birthday...

Houman

26th June 2015, 04:18

And now SB 792: to expand mandating vaccinations for day care and child care workers who would either have to quit their jobs if they refused the vaccination or face criminal charges.
As expected... adults are next (first child care workers, next at the workplace, then everyone...)

Houman

29th June 2015, 05:17

National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program ( NVICP) Settlement Report
for Feb-May 2014
http://www.parentalright.org/nvic.html
http://www.parentalright.org/uploads/2/0/1/3/20131043/154558_orig.jpg

To be clear... they are killing and destroying children's lives... they know what they are doing and they don't give a f... about it...

Houman

30th June 2015, 07:42

This says it all...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIumahtUwAEbSC0.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CItwXEyUcAQBbe1.jpg:large

Houman

30th June 2015, 21:48

J. Brown has signed the bill...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIxCiRLUYAAJpls.jpg:large

http://www.mensenrechten.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/the-most-dangerous-superstition-larken-rose-20111.pdf

http://www.mensenrechten.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/the-most-dangerous-superstition-larken-rose-20111.pdf

Houman

2nd July 2015, 19:21

And now AB1117 gives a monetary incentive to your Dr to give you vaccines and refuse exemptions
at 4min56s
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Houman

4th July 2015, 20:35

Private practices being outlawed (no exemption with an HMO), Dept of transportation tracking people's vax records
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Houman

9th July 2015, 01:02

Timeless Eustace Mullins

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Houman

10th July 2015, 07:00

CDC to add HPV vaccine to childhood schedule on Feb 2016 (SB277 allows them to add anything to the list of mandatory vaccines)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJLLpL5UEAAR0-W.jpg:large

Houman

22nd July 2015, 19:47

From http://www.care2.com/greenliving/u-s-government-set-to-approve-monsanto-protection-act.html#
U.S. Government Set to Approve Monsanto Protection Act

While Americans are busy enjoying their summer holidays, the U.S. House Committee on Agriculture has been busy signing off on a bill that will destroy any likelihood of labeling genetically-modified foods. Known as “HR 1599” by the government and “The Mother of All Monsanto Protection Acts” or the “Deny Americans the Right to Know” Act (DARK Act) by the public, the bill is scheduled for possible approval as early as July 23.

Houman

22nd July 2015, 19:53

http://ow.ly/3y2MHR

Selkie

22nd July 2015, 20:07

And now AB1117 gives a monetary incentive to your Dr to give you vaccines and refuse exemptions
at 4min56s
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There's the separation of church and state. How about the separation of medicine and state? It would never fly, of course, but I like to think about it.

Houman

22nd July 2015, 21:56

There's the separation of church and state. How about the separation of medicine and state? It would never fly, of course, but I like to think about it.

Benjamin Rush thought about it (Founding Father of the United States, signed the Declaration of Independence and served in the Continental Congress)

“The Constitution of this Republic should make special provision for medical freedom. To restrict the art of healing to one class will constitute the Bastille of medical science. All such laws are un-American and despotic. … Unless we put medical freedom into the constitution the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship and force people who wish doctors and treatment of their own choice to submit to only what the dictating outfit offers.”
http://thefederalist-gary.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/a-founding-father-warned-about-medical.html

heyokah

24th July 2015, 08:34

I think this also belongs here.

This is really worth our attention. Cross posted from this (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83617-Bases-46-Transhumanism-DNA-Technology-Chemtrails-Alien-AI-and-Black-Goo/page3) thread

Harald Kautz-Vella presents his detailed lecture on the two types of Black Goo, Morgellons, and Artificial Intelligence at the Bases Woodborough conference held on June 20th.

This conference presents cutting edge data of such importance some has yet to reach a text book.
Much is developing by the day.
With further new information on the A-I and the Black Goo, only being discovered in recent days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j88BcgzzcTc?list=PLR03Wazmqjc9TNV9C3etaJjD Exfia7jqL

He will present a further lecture at the Bases International conference on August 1st,

Houman

24th July 2015, 09:49

http://www.healthfreedoms.org/the-real-reason-holistic-doctors-are-being-killed-and-vanishing/
Holistic coctors killed, Nagalese introduced into body during vaccination and role of GcMAF in reversing cancer and autism

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http://www.faim.org/autism/gcmaf-treatment-cancer-autism-inflammation-viral-bacterial-disease.html

Murdered Dr Bradstreet on GcMAF
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CD7

24th July 2015, 23:27

HIGHLY INTERSTING INFO with the video about the holistic doctors.....Just today I was in a doctors office with a friend (for real lol)--for support. The doctor was discussing Hep C which my friend contracted but after testing his specific genome type, something happened and the test did not reveal the information needed, so are unable to effect a medicine for him until they receive this information about his genome....the doctor also went onto explain that Hep C affects RNA in blood which I thought was interesting as we have heard the movie theater shooter was doing research on RNA in dna (not saying he had something to do with this research) but thought it was an eye brow raiser...

Also the doctor went onto explain how Hep C cures have to be tailored to an individual blood type/genome type which is so OBVIOUSLY STRANGE TO ME and definitely raises RED FLAGS.....

Houman

25th July 2015, 17:47

Dr Bradstreet search warrant (focused on GcMAF and all patients treated with GcMAF)

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Houman

11th August 2015, 05:11

On GcMAF

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From http://www.betterhealthguy.com/gcmaf
Update July 16 2015: GcMAF is no longer available as the company that made it was shutdown by overseas regulatory agencies. As always, consult your doctor before making any medical decisions on any therapy you may be considering.

Update July 25, 2015: My use of GcMAF for my own personal health recovery, which was guided by a doctor, started in 2011 and ended in 2013. The information on this page has not been updated in some time other than the comment above. Some have contacted me recently asking for more information on GcMAF. Unfortunately, I do not have any further details and suggest that people discuss any potential medical treatment option with their doctor. I am not a doctor and am simply sharing my personal experience having explored this option a few years ago.

GcMAF (Gc protein macrophage activation factor) is an immune-regulating compound from Europe that may have benefit for those of us struggling with immune system health. It has been used in HIV and cancer for several years. More recently, doctors and researchers have been considering GcMAF for use in patients with illnesses that most of us will recognize.

From gcmaf.eu, "In its role of immune system regulator, research shows GcMAF can reverse other diseases that attack the immune system like Autism, CFS, XMRV, Lyme disease, Aids, HIV, Fibromyalgia (all of which we've begun to have success with ourselves), osteoporosis, Hodgkin’s, Lupus, MS, Parkinson’s, various bacterial and viral infections and various types of Immune dysfunction."

I first heard about GcMAF almost a year ago. At the same time, I had first learned about "nagalase", a blood test that is used to in part determine whether or not one might be a candidate for GcMAF therapy. Nagalase is an enzyme that prevents Vitamin D receptors (VDR) from being activated on the surface of the macrophage. As a result, macrophages are not "activated" and our immune systems are not able to properly respond to invaders.

Here are some points that I have learned thus far on GcMAF:

GcMAF has reportedly been tested more for safety, purity, etc. than other human blood products.
Macrophages are cultured, destroyed, and the GcMAF receptors are purified.
Treatment is via injection 1x/week for 8-20 weeks. Dose is titrated initially to avoid exacerbation or Herx responses as much as possible.
A commonly used dose is .25ml once weekly (a 2.2 ml vial should last 8 injections).
The primary test used in looking at whether or not GcMAF may be a reasonable intervention is nagalase.
Nagalase inactivates macrophages.
I personally would NEVER consider this option without having a baseline nagalase test. Normal is < 0.95. Mine was 2.9.
The practitioner I worked with suggested that 2.9 was in the range of someone with HIV or cancer in terms of the impact on the immune system. I'd like to hear from others in the Lyme community as you get test results as well to see if there is a pattern of elevated nagalase in those with Lyme disease. Whether or not Lyme itself has anything to do with nagalase elevation is something I have not been able to find anything on. We certainly all have underlying viral co-factors that are likely in play as well, but I suspect that Borrelia may also play a role in nagalase elevation.
In healthy college students, a nagalase 0.4 is not uncommon (the lower the better).
At 2.9, my practitioner was surprised that I did not have more cognitive deficits such as memory loss and other cognitive issues.
It has been suggested that ongoing antimicrobial therapy without a working immune system is like leaving the house with the door wide open inviting burglars in. By using GcMAF to activate macrophages, nagalase drops, and one may regain a functional immune system. The door is then closed to further invaders and we may no longer serve as a microbe hotel.
Maintenance therapy should not be needed once the immune system is once again properly functioning.
Activated macrophages only remain active for 7 days so any negative responses are generally short-lived. That said, some people do have strong inflammatory responses that are not believed to be typical die-off reactions.
It has been indicated that in some cases, other medications may be needed in order to manage the inflammatory response. This is another reason that one needs to be working closely with a knowledgeable practitioner before considering GcMAF in my opinion. In the CFS and GcMAF world, this more severe form of a die-off reaction is called IRIS.
VDR genetics do not seem to play a role in predicting response as earlier thought according to one practitioner that I have spoken with. That said, Vitamin D levels do correlate with the positive response rate of GcMAF. Thus, Vitamin D supplementation may be required in order to optimize outcome.
Other than die-off reactions or activation of symptoms (inflammation), no other side effects are generally expected.
Nagalase should be monitored every 1-2 months while on treatment to determine the required duration of the therapy. Target nagalase after treatment would be 0.4 to 0.6.
Elevated nagalase has a profound detrimental effect on the immune system. Elevated nagalase is often presumed to be related to microbes of viral origin or cancer. Viruses that are nagalase producers open the door to chronic infections.
Hemagglutinin contains nagalase and is also found in flagella of some bacteria so it could also be the case that some bacteria may produce nagalase.
Parents with ASD children also often have elevated nagalase.
A practitioner I spoke with likened Lyme disease to a "peat moss fire" burning below the surface. Activating macrophages should help to deal with the fire.
GcMAF should be helpful in dealing with other infections that are not of viral origin; for example, Borrelia, Bartonella, and other infections commonly associated with Tick-Borne Infections (TBIs). GcMAF is active against many cancers and many different kinds of microbes.
Neopterin is another test that is sometimes used as an indicator of immune suppression. As macrophages become activated, neopterin may rise and later fall. If one is in the normal range for neopterin and has an immune-related illness, this could be an indication that the immune system is suppressed and not responding appropriately.
People with autoimmune conditions can generally use GcMAF. However, GcMAF may be contraindicated in people with Multiple Sclerosis.
Reduction in nagalase is generally seen early in the course of treatment; within the first 3-6 weeks. In some studies, nagalase dropped by over 50% in less than six weeks.
Cancer patients may initially feel as bad on GcMAF as they do on chemotherapy, but often feel much better after the first month.
Anti-inflammatories may limited the effect of GcMAF.
Enzymes and biofilm-reducing supplements may have a negative impact on GcMAF therapy and may be best avoided. It is still too early to know what the impact may be, but one practitioner I spoke with feels that it is best to avoid these.
One should not be on any immune-suppressing agents while on GcMAF as the immune system must be partially functional in order to respond appropriately to the treatment.
A common pattern is to see elevated lymphocytes, high nagalase, and low NK cells. Once nagalase drops, it may be the case that NK cell function could be positively impacted. CD57 is a type of NK cell. It is too early to know if this proves to be true, but it is one of the things I'm quite interested in.

In November 2011, I listened to a presentation by Dr. Kenny de Meirleir on GcMAF. This video is an absolute must-watch if you are considering GcMAF. You can find it here.
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A few of my takeaways from watching this presentation include:

With compromised immune activation, increased nagalase cuts off the conversion to GcMAF - result is a deglycosylated Gc protein that cannot activate macrophages.
If you have increased nagalase, you have less GcMAF and your Gc protein is not effectively transferred into GcMAF.
Nagalase is part of the gp120 enzyme in HIV. HERV's or other viruses active in cells may produce nagalase.
Several intestinal bacteria are producers of nagalase. Editor's Note: I found this connection to be quite interesting; the gut is big.
Similar to HIV, CFS patients have many infections and reactivate endogenous herpes viruses - EBV, CMV, HHV-6, HSV-1, as well as Herpes 7.
Healthy controls have very low nagalase enzyme activity. Normal people do have some, but it should be very low. There is a clear difference in those with pathology.
395 CFS/ME patients - average nagalase in Kenny de Meirleir study was 1.72 with range of 0.28 to 4.0. Controls had < 0.69 with range of 0.35 to 0.68. Only 12/395 had normal nagalase levels resulting in 97% having increased nagalase activity.
Dr. Cheney did a small study of 50 patients. Average nagalase was 3.0 with range of 0.8 to 6.7. He has a much sicker patient population than de Meirleir.
Origin of nagalase in CFS may be: retrovirus?, herpes viruses, intestinal bacteria, HERVs.
Find Lipopolysaccharides (LPS) in the blood from gram negative intestinal bacteria (less so from gram positive bacteria). High LPS suggests increased intestinal permeability or leaky gut syndrome.LPS is one of the most immunogenic substances in the body. Extremely ill and moderately ill patients have increased circulating LPS and thus leaky gut syndrome.
Altered intestinal flora and changes in gut permeability may be a major factor in this entire clinical picture.
GVDR-Fok1 and GVDR-Bsm1 polymorphisms in CFS - response to GcMAF is dependent on the VDR gene polymorphism. VDR is involved in skeletal metabolism, modulation of immune response, and regulation of cell proliferation and differentiation. Many CFS patients have osteoporosis. Editor's Note: The VDR connection to GcMAF efficacy seems to be an ongoing topic of debate.
In 185 patients looking at VDR genetics, FF/bb is a higher responder. Ff/Bb is a moderate responder, and Ff/BB is a low responder. de Meirleir takes VDR genetics into account when giving and dosing GcMAF.
Africans are higher responders and Norwegians and Scandanavians are lower responders.
GcMAF and LPS activate macrophages. Majority of CFS patients have increased bacterial transfection from gut to blood. GcMAF stimulates macrophages through a different mechanism than LPS without the negative effects of LPS. LPS and GcMAF cannot stimulate macrophages simultaneously - it is one or the other. Affinity of macrophages for GcMAF is higher than for LPS. GcMAF will induce a "good" phagocytosis without the bad IL-1 and TNF-alpha release. "Bad" macrophage activation by LPS is diminished by the competitive action of GcMAF in the macrophages.
de Meirleir uses 100 nanogram (1/10,000 of an mg) in 1ml serum. Editor's Note: This is different than GcMAF.eu potency which is 100ng in .25ml
Can be done IV or SC once per week at dose of 25-100ng per week. The Dose depends on how activated the immune system is and the VDR genetics. If a patient is a low responder genetically and has low activation of complement in the immune system, the dose might be 100ng per week. Otherwise, much lower dosages may be used. Treatment duration is 5-40 weeks with 15 week being the average.
Symptoms such as fatigue, sleep quality, pain, neurocognitive function, recovery/less payback, digestive problems, and orthostatic intolerance improved in over 50%. Of 108 patients, 68 of these had noticeable improvement. Of these, 44 of the 68 had decrease in fatigue.
Risks - GcMAF is natural and normal people produce it. T-cell activation in patients with a Th1 -> Th2/Th17 shift could in theory develop or increase auto-immunity. That said, it has not happened once in his cases. He did have a few people that developed autoimmune thyroid conditions; but that is not uncommon in the normal patient group that he sees.
Patients with increased TGF-b1, high IL-6, high ANA, and thyroid antibodies are temporarily excluded.
Overstimulation with GcMAF can lead to IRIS - immune reconstitution inflammatory syndrome. IRIS has been seen in the past in HIV. In HIV, this is rarely discussed given the severity of the condition they are treating. IRIS occurs when the immune system is heavily damaged by viruses other co-infections are present. The immune cells start to regenerate and the immune system produces an exaggerated response to the co-infections. It is not the GcMAF itself but the result of significant co-infections. IRIS has been replicated in mice.
20-30% of GcMAF CFS patients experience IRIS. It is more common in those with co-infections and in those with activated T-cells or a low number of T cells.
de Meirleir monitors IRIS with C4a, cytokines, CD25, and HLADR+.
Attempts to prevent IRIS with a broad screen for fungal, viral, intracellular bacteria, and parasites.
Start with a low dose and titrate up slowly. In 7 patients that had IRIS, de Meirleir found active Babesia.

On GcMAF probiotic yogurt
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Houman

15th August 2015, 23:21

On the reconstitution of the core microbiome via the Bravo Yogurt... Dr Bradstreet (and others) hit the nail on its head with it...

http://drbradstreet.org/2013/07/24/bravo-probiotic-actually-a-system-for-making-a-new-ecosystem-not-merely-a-probiotic/

Bravo Probiotic – Actually a System for Making a New Ecosystem NOT Merely a Probiotic (By Dr Bradstreet)

One of the frustrating things in dealing with most chronic illnesses is related to the gut ecosystem. TV ads are now extolling the issues of a bad gut ecosystem so the message about gut flora (the protective bacteria of the intestinal track) is getting much more widely accepted. The challenges I have experienced with many patients, however, makes this far more complex than merely popping a few probiotic capsules.

In previous blogs I have written about fecal transplantation or fecal bacteriotherapy (FBT). Recently the FDA warned doctors to not attempt this without FDA approval making it all but impossible these days. It has been a successful means of changing out a bad ecosystem in the got for a better one and in cases of life-threatening infectious diarrhea it has been published in the medical literature to be life-saving.

But given the impracticality and regulatory barriers, FBT is not a viable option. So what can we do? My choice is now Bravo and you can find it on the web at www.bravoprobiotic.com. Bravo is a complex multistrain bacterial fermentation process; it is not merely a probiotic and technically it is a fermented dairy product you make in your kitchen by using their system and culture blends. And if you have been around natural health very long you know most dairy is an issue for children with autism and many other health issues. However, tests on Bravo at a major university indicate it does not contain casein and other milk proteins after the bacteria digest the milk in the process of fermentation. In my population of sensitive children it has been very well tolerated.

After answering hundreds of emails about Bravo I decided it may be easier to just post this information with detailed pictures of how I make it for myself...

From https://www.bravo-europe.com/microbiome/

BRAVO - Immune system and human healthy core microbiome reconstitution.

BRAVO is a proprietary array of live microbes that, during the fermentation of mammal milk and colostrum, naturally produce, as occurrs in milk fermented product, a number of peptides and proteins that are known from scientific literature to stimulate the immune system, to show anti-cancer and neuro-protective properties, and to improve cardiac recovery.

In addition, the live microbes contained in BRAVO reconstitute the human healthy core microbiome.

As far as definitions are concerned, some use “microbiome” to mean all the microbes in a community. We and others use it to mean the full collection of genes of all the microbes in a community. The human microbiome (all of our microbes’ genes) can be considered a counterpart to the human genome (all of our genes). The genes in our microbiome outnumber the genes in our genome by about 100 to 1.

As researchers learn more about the microbes that keep us healthy, we are coming to understand how subtle imbalances in our microbial populations can also cause disease—and how restoring the balance may lead to cures. Our new understanding may lead to more focused and effective treatments. Unlike modern antibiotics, which kill good microbes along with the bad, new natural nutritional approaches may counteract only harmful bacteria while leaving the friendly ones alone. Other approaches, such as fermented milk products, nurture friendly bacteria, helping them outcompete the harmful ones.

According to the University of Utah (http://www.utah.edu), following are just some of the health conditions that involve our microbes and for which special fermented milk products as BRAVO may prove useful.

Acne

Antibiotic-associated diarrhea

Asthma/allergies

Autism

Autoimmune diseases

Cancer

Dental cavities

Depression and anxiety

Diabetes

Eczema

Gastric ulcers

Hardening of the arteries

Inflammatory bowel diseases

Malnutrition

Obesity

For example, as far as autism is concerned, the University of Utah states:

“The search for the cause of autism has turned up several weak genetic links and many suspected environmental triggers. Now researchers have learned that microbes may also be involved. A few small studies have shown that children with autism have different microbes living in their intestines than children without the disorder. This difference could be explained by the often picky eating habits of autistic children. Or the difference could be a side effect of an underlying genetic or environmental trigger—autistic children commonly have gastrointestinal problems. Still, the connection is intriguing. The causes of autism are varied and complex, and the same measures may prevent the disease in some but not in others. By learning about the connection between autism and microbes, we have the potential to find more ways to fight the disorder.”

In addition to reconstituting the human microbiome, most of the microbial strains contained in BRAVO show per se beneficial effects in a variety of conditions and their mechanism of action at the molecular level converge in stimulating and rebalancing the immune system as well as in other health promoting effects of BRAVO.

For example, during the proprietary fermentation process, the vitamin D binding protein (VDBP) that is abundant in mammal milk and colostrum is converted into the active VDBP-derived macrophage activating factor, a powerful activator of macrophage function that also shows anti-cancer and neuro-protective properties (Nutrients. 2013 Jul 8;5(7):2577-89. J Neuroinflammation. 2014 Apr 17;11:78. Anticancer Res. 2014 Jul;34(7):3569-78. Anticancer Drugs. 2015 Feb;26(2):197-209). Interestingly, one of the strains in BRAVO, Lactobacillus Rhamnosus also activates macrophages (Microbiol Immunol. 2012 Nov;56(11):771-81) thus converging on the same immunostimulatory pathway with a synergistic effect.

The synergism between the molecules naturally present in BRAVO and the live bacteria that are also present in it, can be observed also in a range of allergic and auto-immune diseases involving an imbalance of TH1 and TH2 lymphocytes, where BP can help re-establishing such a balance.

In fact, it was recently demonstrated that an allergic/autoimmune reaction is characterized by a disrupted T- helper 1⁄T-helper 2 (TH1/TH2) balance toward a preferential allergen specifically induced TH2 cytokine profile, causing allergic inflammation. It is well recognized that chronic inflammation is a risk factor essentially for all chronic conditions (see the paragraph on the PINI score below). It is also well known that probiotic bacteria have various beneficial effects in many pathologic situation. Studies have shown that the bacteria present in the intestinal micro flora play a role in the TH1/TH2 balance and its modulation can promote the control of infectious and immune processes. In a recent study the effects of probiotic bacteria on TH1/TH2 cytokine production by peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMC or circulating macrophages) of allergic patients and control subjects were tested (Somaya M. El Sheikh et al. / American Journal of Immunology 10 (3): 116-130, 2014). This study included 24 patients allergic to date pollen and 16 healthy control subjects. PBMC of both groups were separated and cultured for 72 h with date pollen allergen in the presence or absence of Lactobacillus Rhamnosus and C- phycocyanin (a botanical extracted from Spirulina platensis). The conclusion of this study was that Lactobacillus Rhamnosus and C-phycocyanin inversed the TH1: TH2 polarization in allergic patients thus representing be promising line of treatment for all conditions where an imbalance of the immune response, with consequent chronic inflammation, is present.

In addition to the considerations outlined above, the role of the gut microbiota in the pathophysiology of cancer, neurodegerative and neurodevelopmental diseases, which is promoted by a bacterial diversity shift mediated by altered nutrition has been recently reviewed. Whole bacteria, their products, and metabolites undergo increased translocation through the gut epithelium to the circulation due to degraded tight junctions and the consequent increase in intestinal permeability that culminates in inflammation and insulin resistance. Several strategies focusing on modulation of the gut microbiota (such as administration of fermented milk products) are being employed in metabolic derangement in order to reduce intestinal permeability, increase the production of short chain fatty acids and anorectic gut hormones, and promote insulin sensitivity to counteract the inflammatory status and insulin resistance found in obese individuals.

In addition, the microbial strains contained in BRAVO are associated with the endogenous production of neurotransmitters and second messengers that are known to rebalance and improve neurological functions and neuronal connectivity. In fact, there is increasing evidence suggesting an interaction between the intestinal microbiota, the gut, and the central nervous system (CNS) in what is recognized as the microbiome–gut–brain axis. For example, recent data with Lactobacillus Rhamnosus (that is contained in BRAVO) suggest that these microbes can modulate the GABAergic system and, therefore, may have beneficial effects in the treatment of depression and anxiety (www.pnas.org/cgi/doi/10.1073/pnas.1102999108).

Therefore, BRAVO was designed with the objective of exploiting the intriguing opportunity of developing unique microbial-based strategies for the adjunctive treatment of stress-related psychiatric and neurodegenerative disorders.

As far as the role of probiotics in cancer is concerned, it is well assessed that functional foods as BRAVO, enhance bioregulation such as stresses, appetite and absorption; biodefence, such as immunity and suppression of allergies; prevent diseases, including diarrhea, constipation, cancer, cholesterolemia and diabetes; and suppress aging through immunostimulation as well as suppression of mutagenesis, carcinogenesis, oxidation processes, intestinal putrefaction, and cholesterolemia (Biosci Microbiota Food Health. 2014;33(3):117-28).

Therefore, BRAVO can be used as a food in a number of conditions where its properties can be beneficial, combining nutritional and natural immunotherapeutic approaches.

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