Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

[Houman]

from http://www.henrymakow.com/fozsdyke.html

Satanism has two faces, so to speak: the exoteric and esoteric; the public and private. The esoteric is a passionate, life and death doctrine of absolute freedom. The exoteric is an understanding that the sheeple want slavery.

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Had a meeting recently with one of our people and he told me that in Russia the newest trend in child films is to take the young girl or boy to a fair and film them on the rides and eating ice cream and confectioneries.
Apparently the look of excited happiness just can't be faked. All big smiles and wide eyed. Then they film them getting seen too by paedophiles, including their new best adult friend who took them out for their happy time.
All pleading and tears. This new style of realism beats old American whores in school uniforms, pigtails and cosmetic freckles. I guess that's just the way it is.

[bearcow]

He has been identified as "one of the major heavy hitters of transdimensional alien parasites", I give credit to their research because it has been conducted independently and it is based on a large sample data.

it is your right to believe them as being credible and competent, is my right to not. Any "heavy hitter" operating in the astral world can take any form it wishes. For example, Isis, Kwan yin, and the energy Christians worship as mother Mary come from the same source. The form changes to fit the cultural and unconscious dynamics within the individual. Eve Lorgen chose to see the entity in the form that suited her predispositions. It does not mean it is accurate to say that the being she saw is the historical deity Horus. Large scale astral entities do not need to put implants up peoples butt's to siphon off energies



Horus-Ra is the name given to an entity (Horus = host, Ra=parasite) that appears in Eve Lorgen's and Dr Malanga's work/research with abductees,

horus

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Horus_standing.svg/220px-Horus_standing.svg.png

Ra

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Re-Horakhty.svg/220px-Re-Horakhty.svg.png

this guy
http://evelorgen.com/wp/wp-content/gallery/drawings/horus12frenk.jpg

Ok, why call it horus-ra if it looks nothing like horus or ra?

Im not saying that this being does not exist, or is not a parasitic entity siphoning off energy from human beings. Im saying this guy has nothing to do with the deity Horus.


Please spend some time going through these posts concerning what those "entities" are doing and where they are coming from before aspiring "to be like them"...


You don't know me, kindly dont presume to think you know what i know and have more genuine experience in these matters. There is a black lodge and a white lodge, the symbols are the same but they can be used in different ways.


As for archons "not interfering" the Nag Hammadi texts (http://art3idea.psu.edu/locus/Hypostasis_Archons%20.pdf) are actually stating quite the opposite (it is for a reason that "archons" means "rulers" in greek)


The nag hammadi texts make no mention of a parasite called horus-ra

You are jumbling information together from different sources haphazardly.


as for the "interpretation" of Egyptian deities you have to be careful with it, (as with all "religious" texts) you have the "interpretation" given to common people and the one given to the "initiates", in any case it should not be considered to be a "prime source of information" (because of the subjectivity associated with "cargo cults")...


the "interpretation" is for your sake, not mine

I know the hidden meanings


Horus-RA is in truth a representation of what mankind can aspire to be.

The elite are trying to say only we can be Horus-Ra



Apologies - I did not understand these last two lines - please clarify

Horus symbolizes the higher aspect of mankind's mental nature.
Ra is the divine mind.
Horus-Ra is the merging of these two principles thru the medium of the primordial feminine (kundalini)

the elite are conditioning you to believe that they are the ones worthy to rule by associating themselves with the Horus archetype. They are unconsciously trying to say that they are a living extension of the divine mind. Also they believe that the masculine principle must dominate and Horus fits that bill.

[Houman]

it is your right to believe them as being credible and competent, is my right to not. Any "heavy hitter" operating in the astral world can take any form it wishes. For example, Isis, Kwan yin, and the energy Christians worship as mother Mary come from the same source. The form changes to fit the cultural and unconscious dynamics within the individual. Eve Lorgen chose to see the entity in the form that suited her predispositions. It does not mean it is accurate to say that the being she saw is the historical deity Horus. Large scale astral entities do not need to put implants up peoples butt's to siphon off energies

please take the time to read the posts before replying... she did not see the entity, it is a being reported by abductee (the interaction is in the "physical" not in the "astral"), although they call it "Horus-Ra" (for obvious reasons) they do not
claim the being to be the one worshiped by Egyptians (although there is a natural connection to be made if you dig)



Ok, why call it horus-ra if it looks nothing like horus or ra?

read the first post... check Dr Malanga's site



You don't know me, kindly dont presume to think you know what i know and have more genuine experience in these matters. There is a black lodge and a white lodge, the symbols are the same but they can be used in different ways.

If you do have genuine experience (not "indoctrination" by your peers, or if you are one of the Olympians, but I don't think so) then please elaborate...



The nag hammadi texts make no mention of a parasite called horus-ra

They do mention the archons, again "horus-ra" is the name used by Dr Malanga...



You are jumbling information together from different sources haphazardly.


when compartmentalization and disinformation is the name of the game this is one validation method (correlation/sorting/ranking/comparing/conditioning information based on their sources, history, bias, etc...)...



the "interpretation" is for your sake, not mine

I know the hidden meanings

if you think that you know then your learning curve stops here... if you wish to have a productive discussion then you should precise where that "knowledge" is coming from and why you think that you have "the final hidden meaning/layer of the onion"...

[Houman]

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[Houman]

Horus-RA is in truth a representation of what mankind can aspire to be.

The elite are trying to say only we can be Horus-Ra.


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[bearcow]

please take the time to read the posts before replying... she did not see the entity, it is a being reported by abductee (the interaction is in the "physical" not in the "astral"),

If the witness is under hypnosis they are re-creating an event in the astral. A similar event may have happened in the physical, that does not mean the particular memories uncovered actually happened as remembered in the astral. The personal beliefs of the person doing the regression can influence the session.


although they call it "Horus-Ra" (for obvious reasons) they do not
claim the being to be the one worshiped by Egyptians (although there is a natural connection to be made if you dig)

they call it horus ra for obvious reasons yet it is not the same being worshiped by egyptians? Why confuse the issue?



If you do have genuine experience (not "indoctrination" by your peers, or if you are one of the Olympians, but I don't think so) then please elaborate...

i am not a Olympian, look at the history of my posts if you want to know my background


if you think that you know then your learning curve stops here... if you wish to have a productive discussion then you should precise where that "knowledge" is coming from and why you think that you have "the final hidden meaning/layer of the onion"...


as far as the benefits extracted from it's practical application i know, as you do that 2+2=4, without a doubt . There is no value in debating the practical validity of it. the truths that i know beyond a shadow of doubt have practical application that yield fruit for me. This does not mean that my learning curve has stopped.


Im not going to debate every point regarding all the numerous inaccuracies on this thread, you have your mind made up that it is factual. Like i said before, each reader should read with discernment. I think in this case, people gain more by trying to figure it out themselves. To see thru the veil clearly is a internal and external exercise, good luck in discerning fantasy from reality.

[Houman]

If the witness is under hypnosis they are re-creating an event in the astral. A similar event may have happened in the physical, that does not mean the particular memories uncovered actually happened as remembered in the astral. The personal beliefs of the person doing the regression can influence the session.


Some of these victims are virgins with respect to the UFO field (no personal beliefs)... they exhibit screen memories... and you speak in "conjectures" concerning re-creating an event in the astral...




they call it horus ra for obvious reason yet it is not the same being worshiped by egyptians? Why confuse the issue?

Because they see a connection with it but don't have a full proof




i am not a Olympian, look at the history of my posts if you want to know my background
and what I see indicates that you have some preconceived ideas specific to a certain group of people... I will not elaborate on that...





as far as the benefits extracted from it's practical application i know, as you do that 2+2=4, without a doubt . There is no value in debating the practical validity of it. the truths that i know beyond a shadow of doubt have practical application that yield fruit for me. This does not mean that my learning curve has stopped.

you should be explicit if you want to share information (otherwise such claims are no different than those of New Age gurus)



Im not going to debate every point regarding all the numerous inaccuracies on this thread,

Thank you



you have your mind made up that it is factual.

No I am simply not accepting claims at face value...



Like i said before, each reader should read with discernment. I think in this case, people gain more by trying to figure it out themselves. To see thru the veil clearly is a internal and external exercise,

this is always the case



good luck in discerning fantasy from reality.
this is precisely why information needs to filtered based on its source and its correlations and why I can't take yours at face value (there is enough of such things out there)...

[bearcow]

Some of these victims are virgins with respect to the UFO field (no personal beliefs)... they exhibit screen memories... and you speak in "conjectures" concerning re-creating an event in the astral...

screen memories are by definition imaginary, do you know what you are talking about?

I will not argue the point that the experience of regression therapy is triggered and mostly experienced in the astral, this is a lengthy subject and a topic to be discussed in a separate thread.


Because they see a connection with it but don't have a full proof

more like no proof

let me re-iterate that i am not saying that there is no such thing as multidimensional parasitic beings siphoning off the energies of mankind. It is a real phenomenon.


and what I see indicates that you have some preconceived ideas specific to a certain group of people... I will not elaborate on that...

because you have nothing to elaborate on. If you want to try to assault my credibility, go for it, I'm game.


you should be explicit if you want to share information (otherwise such claims are no different than those of New Age gurus)

look at my post history


this is precisely why information needs to filtered based on its source and its correlations and why I can't take yours at face value (there is enough of such things out there)...

the only group out there saying horus-ra is the "heavy hitter" behind all this is this Dr. Malanga. There are no other correlations. not in the nag hammadi texts, not in the works of crowley, not from Fritz Springmeier. not in any other occult treatise ever written. So where is your correlation?

[ThePythonicCow]

it is your right to believe them as being credible and competent, is my right to not.
Yes, of course it is your right to believe as you choose.

Sometimes we moderators suggest starting a separate thread when viewpoints are diverging far enough as to create more conflict than seems healthy for one thread.

This is such a time, if you could. Thanks, bearcow.

[Houman]

screen memories are by definition imaginary, do you know what you are talking about?


I am referring to the memories behind those implanted/screen memories...



If you want to try to assault my credibility, go for it, I'm game.
I have no interest and no time for such games...








the only group out there saying horus-ra is the "heavy hitter" behind all this is this Dr. Malanga. There are no other correlations. not in the nag hammadi texts, not in the works of crowley, not from Fritz Springmeier. not in any other occult treatise ever written. So where is your correlation?
it is also reported by some abductee working with Eve Lorgen and the correlation is in the number of "independent" people reporting similar experiences behind "screen memories"... as for correlations in occult texts (not an ID card) see posts in this thread


Bearcow: if you wish to have a productive discussion:
1 be explicit (not cryptic)
2 Give the (precise, explicit, clear, rigorous) sources of your claims (and please do not base them on the "I have special esoteric knowledge" argument)

I have no time for ball games if these 2 simple rules are not followed...

Thanks,
Houman

[the_vast_mystery]

Horus-RA is in truth a representation of what mankind can aspire to be.

The elite are trying to say only we can be Horus-Ra.


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Anyone who guesses the allegory correctly gets a gold star. ;p

[Chester]

I have a very real, multi-year and quite negative experience with the Horus-Ra entity. It will take me some time but I promise to provide this information in a post, hopefully within the next few weeks. I had my first session with Eve Lorgen this morning. Next session scheduled for early June. The story is difficult to tell but thanks to Avalon and this thread, I am close to being able to tell the story. Then the reader can decide what they want to think of archontic energies and specifically this lovely Horus-Ra thing.

I have started to write about my experience - specifically the messianic complex aspect in this post -

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45250-Jesus-the-man-JESUS-the-Archon----inspired-by-Houman--s-Horus-Ra-thread&p=490660&viewfull=1#post490660

Forgive my opinions now of messiahs (including jesus) - I do not wish to offend anyone.

[Houman]

from


Taken: Inside the Alien-Human Agenda

by

Karla Turner, Ph.D





Much of what the aliens have communicated has affected the women's attitudes on a variety of subjects. In childhood, Amy witnessed an apparent VRS (Virtual Reality Scenario) designed to destroy her faith in traditional religion, and Polly reported lessons on "changes in allegiance." Anita, Jane, and Amy also have come to feel suspicious of temporal governments, a suspicion that Jane says was "fostered" by the aliens. Such an attitude adjustment is clearly an intrinsic part of the abduction agenda, pointing to a much more involved and disturbing program than the mere taking of genetic material to revivify a degenerative alien race. Their actions concern changing our belief system as much as working, for whatever reason, with our bodies, and we do not know the motivation for this targeting of religion and government.

On the subject of human genesis, the aliens often say they are our creators, as in Angie's case, and statements about altering our species were also made to Lisa. The most provocative message, given to Amy, indicated a surprise on the part of the aliens that Amy hadn't clearly seen the situation already. "Did you think this was all by accident?" she was asked, as the aliens presented the concept of the earth as a cosmic zoo.

Such indoctrination serves to reduce our concepts of human sovereignty, as well as to bind us to them in a subservient position, as a possession. While some people accept this relationship as fact and thus allow that the aliens can legitimately do with us what they please, there are others of us who feel we possess an inherent sovereignty and right to exist without interference, no matter what our genesis. Their claims to be our creators have never been more than mere claims, anyway, unless there is proof somewhere, as a few researchers report from intelligence and military insiders.

As for information on the aliens themselves, they are less forthcoming. Lisa was told that there are "many divisions" of the beings, and Jane has observed that while some of them are interdimensional, as Polly also believes, others are actually "interplanetary travelers." An origin in Cassiopeia was stated to Angie, although the alien said their group had long ago made a "home" for themselves on our planet. Beth was told only that the aliens are here for study and to "avert a destructive process" that humanity is bringing upon the world. The most extreme communication of origin, however, was given to Pat. She was told that the aliens are angels, although not as we'd been taught to think of them, and that they will be responsible for the changing of human bodies at the time of resurrection. Jane, conversely, has been made to see, from her experiences, that the God of the Bible "is not the supreme being we have been taught to envision."



A common communication has been that the abductees are to come together or "find" others like themselves. In fact, Angie reported being brought to a group of "Chosen Ones" in an underground facility. "There were others trained like me," Amy said she was told in 1989, "and we would come together soon. Now it is time that we find each other." Beth was told that she and others must work as "spiritual" beings "for the good of humanity," and the aliens told Jane that "All good people of earth must come together to resist what is coming." It isn't certain, of course, that all the communications have come from a single source, and in fact there are frequently contradictions and inconsistencies from case to case.



The future planetary events are also a major topic for the aliens, and it is interesting to note the phrases and images they use here. For Jane, the aliens have used terms like "the awakening" to indicate coming changes in "world cultures and consciousness." This sounds positive and peaceful enough, but both Amy and Polly have been told of a coming "Armageddon," although Amy was told that Armageddon "will not be as people think it will be." Angle's abductors said that the "filth and evil" in this world will be cleansed as we are subtly changed. But for Anita and Lisa, the future changes are shown as disasters for which they must prepare to survive here on earth.

And Pat has been shown scenes of the return of Jesus, accompanied by space ships and aliens, preceding the "bad time on earth" which will destroy many of those who are not rescued. Indeed, to Amy, Beth, Jane, and Polly, the communications have indicated a war of good and evil underway, in which we have a part to play. And as for the aliens' promised assistance, Lisa has said simply, "Why should we believe they can fix our problems when they can't even control the abusive aliens among them?"

How do the women feel about their alien communications? Jane is inspired by much of what she's told, but she has not been able to initiate the communications herself. In fact, she feels that the aliens have hidden, in a way, behind their contacts. "We're not seeing the true intelligence behind all these scenes," she once said. Polly says that when she considers all she has been told, she concludes that in reality, 'They have told us nothing." And Amy has complained that in spite of all she's been told and taught, the aliens "don't give [practical] information."

Angie has come to be suspicious of much of what she has been told. 'There's no reason I should trust those aliens," she wrote, "any more than I would trust my own kind." And Anita has echoed that feeling. "I'm always amazed when I get any information from them at all," she said. "I really don't know if someone who would abduct a person could be trusted to give a truthful answer to any question."

The second issue focuses on alien technology as observed by the abductees. Besides the various instruments used in examinations, most of which are completely foreign, it is curious to note how often the aliens employ quite familiar equipment, especially needles and injections. Indeed, some researchers have said that this use of mundane technology argues against an alien force and toward covert human activity. Angie, Beth, and Polly all report getting shots, and the other women have sometimes found injection punctures without remembering how they got them. But the most common technological devices are not at all human-like: the probes. Their descriptions are often very similar-small balls of light floating or bouncing through the house-but in Amy's case the probe was rather more "spidery" in appearance.

As mentioned earlier, there is a strong interest in human brains evinced by the aliens' activities. Amy, Angie, Beth, Lisa, Pat and Polly all reported having some operation performed on their brains, and they often used the exact same descriptions, of feeling as if their skulls were opened and their brains temporarily removed.

But by far the most alarming evidence of alien technology concerns the "new" bodies and "clones" they manufacture. Whether these are really bodies for a future human "resurrection," as Pat was told, remains to be seen, for other explanations have been given. In a case privately reported, for instance, a man was told that a duplicate of his body could be used to "replace" him if he didn't "cooperate" with the aliens. Lisa, too, was told that other people wouldn't be able to distinguish her cloned body from the original, if they chose to replace her. And Angie was shown the cloned infants as part of a "novel breed" the aliens are producing.

Polly has a different take on what may be going on with the baby presentations. "What's the point?" she asked. "Not to nurture this crossbred infant, not to teach the ETs about emotional love and physical bonding, but to blow our goddamn minds. They use our bodies to get to our minds and emotions." She doesn't believe they care anything about our bodies, "except that WE care very much, so that is why our bodies are important to them: to get at our caring."

This view is echoed by Angie. When she was shown one of her "hybrid" offspring, she felt that the presentation was a test of her rather than anything to do with the baby itself. "From that particular experience, I learned that the hybrid presentation liturgy is not a bonding exercise," she concluded. "In reality it is an act of scrutiny against the mother's measure of courage and understanding. It has a lot to do with mental pain and how the mother deals with it."

Concerning the clones or hybrids themselves, she was further told that their souls are "recycled" and that they are regenerated many times. This fits in with other reports in which abductees saw the aliens destroy fetuses and were told they are not "really alive" and that their physical material will be used, not wasted. In fact, these and other reports point to the use of human genetic material to produce the Gray workers, quite possibly biological "robots" rather than living, soul-inhabited, entities.

The other major technological question concerns the implants, for which the aliens have given various explanations. When Jane received an ear implant, she was told that it affects "brain chemicals and certain subtle functions." The aliens told Angie that the implants "act as a magnet and pull information from people's brains" as well as enhancing the use of "special senses" and sending "instructions."

But Amy was given very different information about the implants by the masked alien who removed hers. Besides being shown where the implants are placed and the fact that they operate on the abductee's own electrical brain activity, she was also told how the implants are used to control abductees, punish them, and even kill them.

And although no one was told that the implants are used to create the virtual-reality scenarios, that possibility must be considered. The technology behind the VRS is a subject upon which the aliens have been silent, but the effects of the VRS are apparent. Only Amy has been given any information about the images created by aliens, when she was told that they use frightening images for control. One of the aliens told Angie that the military also uses "illusions," but this was not explained.

[Houman]

from


Taken: Inside the Alien-Human Agenda

by

Karla Turner, Ph.D



'Their consistent theme is control," she continued. "It is maddening to realize that although we strive to empower ourselves and know that we can claim and enforce our own mental sovereignty, still so often they slip by our defenses...and own parts of us which by rights we should have in our conscious possession."

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In spite of what some prominent abduction theorists tell us about avoiding thinking in terms of "good and evil" or "positive and negative" when it comes to the aliens, this simply cannot be done, nor should it be. For these women, for my husband and myself, for all abductees, knowing that we have been made a part of this agenda and that we have been implanted, trained, and programmed to participate in some future scenario, how can we not ask to what purpose our minds, bodies, and souls will be used? How can we put aside our rationality, our learned wisdom, and our ethics to trust the words and actions of beings whose nature is kept hidden from us and whose agenda involves the entire world?

...

It has been said that any species, in an environment of extreme stress and questionable survival, may develop new coping mechanisms to ensure that the species continue to exist. Could this be part of what is happening now? Certainly an intrusion of an advanced, controlling force on a widespread scale could generate enough "species stress" to trigger new response mechanisms.

Studies of human consciousness development theorize that the emergence of bicameralism-the division of the psyche into conscious and subconscious components-occurred relatively recently in human evolution, perhaps no more than five thousand years ago, in a fairly sudden way and with no known precipitating cause. Could it be that we are once again experiencing a psychic change, a movement toward "tricameralism" that will give us a new form of conscious perception? Are we developing new abilities to recognize energies and entities which have hitherto been beyond our ken, and thus new ways to respond?

...

Given the vast intrusive activities of the abduction phenomenon, we as a species may well feel such a threat or stress that a "mutational" or evolutionary leap is occurring today, developing a tricameralism of the mind, allowing us to confront the intruders and see them more clearly than they have allowed in the past. On the basis of many recent abduction reports, there is hope that our species is awakening.

[Chester]

While some people accept this relationship as fact and thus allow that the aliens can legitimately do with us what they please, there are others of us who feel we possess an inherent sovereignty and right to exist without interference, no matter what our genesis.

That was my decision on April 26th - ...no matter what my genesis... precisely

[Houman]

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[wynderer]

a thought re James Bartley saying that they choose milabs because of innate psychic ability:

extreme trauma also develops heightened psy abilities, which they well know -- it's a kind of survival mechanism in those situations -- milabs & abductees tend to be on hyper-alert status all the time, too, which also enhances psychic abilities -- but of course they want to start w/Humans already having such abilities


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[Hervé]

From the now defunct website (matrixrevealed.com) of another researcher on abductions:




MATRIX REVEALED



by ET Contact Researcher/Abductee Truman Cash



THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET (http://www.lunahelia.com/docs/cash.zip) & THE EYE OF RA (http://www.lunahelia.com/docs/cash2.zip)



ALIEN AGENDA EXPOSED BY "CHOSEN ONES"

Welcome to the MATRIX REVEALED website. This website is for truth seekers who want to understand the nature of reality on Planet Earth.

The definition of the word "matrix" as it applies to this website is "A situation within which something else originates, develops, or is contained." [American Heritage Dictionary]

There are basically two facets to the "situation" regarding Earth cultures:

1) the visible control by elitists who are implementing a Big Brother-style one world "governance"; and

2) the invisible control by beings "behind the curtain". As above--so below.

Beings that people refer to as extra-terrestrials (ETs), aliens, fallen angels, demons, etc. have created a matrix of deception in order to control the inhabitants of Earth. I discovered this matrix primarily because 1) as a truth seeker I have an insatiable desire to understand the nature of reality and 2) because I am a "chosen one".

A "chosen one" is an individual who is contacted and abducted by extra-terrestrials repeatedly from lifetime to lifetime. The term "chosen one" is a term that the ETs themselves use both to describe us, to flatter us and to deceive us. "Chosen ones" are sometimes placed in high-level positions in governments, secret societies and religions. By conducting extensive past life research with "chosen ones", the true, hidden history of Planet Earth can be discovered.

In my independent research I have discovered that a powerful, but invisible guiding hand has been steering the course of human events on this planet for many thousands of years. I call these beings Extra-Terrestrial Conspirators, or ETCs. They are the puppet masters who pull the strings of the world's elite, who in turn pull the strings of the common people. They are the hidden cause of chaos and war on Planet Earth.

The ETCs are extremely clever, and their technology appears to us as magic. With this amazing technology they have built a labyrinth so elaborate and so vast that it boggles the imagination. Like sinister cosmic spiders they have spun a silky web of deceit that seduces people to imprison themselves with ideas.
However, these beings are not infallible. Past life research is the key that unlocks the door to the Extra-Terrestrial Conspiracy and demonstrates that we are all incredible spiritual beings. Past life memory retrieval, properly done on an individual basis, can free us from the machinations of these beings and offers hope for a new world of peace and understanding.


PAST LIFE RESEARCH REVEALS HIDDEN HISTORY
I have spent over twenty years conducting past life research and trying to assemble the pieces to this incredible puzzle. Its incredibility is, in fact, one of its primary defenses. The revelations within the following pages will seem too unbelievable and too bizarre to be taken seriously by most people. However, if one takes the time to read all the material on this site, the dots will surprisingly all connect and all the pieces to this incredible puzzle will fall in place in a way that is truly uncanny.

I have found that there are people who do indeed want to know what is going on on Planet Earth and are ready to confront the unvarnished truth about alien machinations. It is for these discerning people that I present my research documentation here on theMatrixRevealed.comwebsite.

Many people are now aware of an ET group that is often referred to as "Grays". However, at center stage of the Extra-Terrestrial Conspiracy is a group of human-looking ETs who have repeatedly contacted "chosen ones" to establish religions and secret societies. I call this human-looking ET group "Serpent Staff Pleiadians" (SSPs) due to their use of the serpent/staff, winged (flying) serpent and Pleiadian symbolism.

The SSPs have contacted many "chosen ones" throughout history using Space/Time Vehicles or STVs (often called "flying saucers", "space ships" or "UFOs"). The SSPs have deceived Earth inhabitants by claiming to be Gods who must be worshipped (under threat of annihilation). One could also call the SSPs the "Illu" or "Ilu" since that is their more ancient name from which the words "Illuminati" and "Illusion" were apparently derived. {Click here (http://web.archive.org/web/20110208115750/http://matrixrevealed.com/Illuminati%20documents.htm) to view documents that prove the existence of the Illuminati (http://web.archive.org/web/20110208115750/http://matrixrevealed.com/Illuminati%20documents.htm).} This group of ETs is also referred to as the Annunaki.

I was on the Jeff Rense radio program on Sept. 24, 2010 right before Klaus Dona talked about his incredible finds including a pyramid with an all-seeing found in Ecuador. I have confirmed the origin of this SSP symbol in my second book THE EYE OF RA. Read the chapter entitled "Ra and Ptah"(book download below).

I must also point out that benevolent ETs (http://web.archive.org/web/20110208115750/http://matrixrevealed.com/Benevolent%20ETs.htm) do exist. This is a vast universe that is teeming with sentient life forms. Some of them are benevolent and caring while others are not. As below--so above.


RESEARCH DOCUMENTATION
This website consists primarily of the scanned pages of my research documentation. Book One is entitled THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET and Book Two is entitled THE EYE OF RA: The Final Degree of Illumination. I self-published Book One in the middle of my investigations in 1995. I had not yet connected all the dots at that time so I published THE EYE OF RA the following year. Therefore, I repeated "Akarat's Abduction" in both books because it really pinpointed the human-looking winged serpent group (SSPs) as the source of mainstream religions and secret societies on this planet.

I have learned effective, reliable memory retrieval techniques that allowed me to see the "man behind the curtain". To date I have recovered over 75 abduction experiences and over 120 past life experiences. I have also worked with 44 other "chosen ones" including family and friends.

My research with abductees then inspired me to conduct library research about religions, secret societies and "mythology". Nearly all of this additional research came from library books, not the internet. My library research confirmed what I had discovered through my own independent research with "chosen ones".

However, this information is not just about me, my personal experiences or research, but about the situation as it exists in reality for all inhabitants of Earth. A scientific experiment can be repeated again and again, yielding the same results. In like manner, anyone can conduct their own research using the same tools and methods that I have used in order to arrive at the same basic conclusions. Therefore, it is neither necessary nor is it desired for anyone to simply take my word for it based on blind faith.

The ETCs often inflict physical and emotional pain in order to reinforce the matrix. This is trauma-based programming. Therefore, this material is not advised for the faint at heart or people who are experiencing a major illness, either physical or mental.

I initially wrote these books on an old computer and stored them on 5 1/4 floppy disks. Since modern computers no longer use 5 1/4 floppies I have placed the original scanned pages of the books on this website. Click on the CONTENTS page link below for individual chapters of the original scanned pages and free PDF downloads.

I have had to use pseudonyms and edit out the birth names of abductees in both books (using white-out) because two of the abductees involved wanted to protect their privacy (after I had printed the books). I obtained permission from the abductees to use their information as long as I do not reveal their birth names. Since some of the abductees are family members I have also had to refrain from giving my birth name in order to protect their privacy. I recorded the memory retrieval sessions with these abductees and then carefully transcribed the recorded tapes so as to thoroughly document the research.


UNDERGROUND BASE INFORMATION
I have also edited out the location of a deep underground military/alien base where I was abducted. I have intentionally not revealed the location of this base for the following reasons:

1) This underground base is located on private property;

2) Anyone who gets close to it will have a very unpleasant experience if they get abducted (and their memory of it will be occluded);

3) It is not my intention to piss off the military/government personnel involved with aliens as I believe we need to give amnesty to non-violent people involved with the government/alien cover-up because they may not have much choice in the matter anyway;

4) I believe that I will not be harassed or attacked if I do not disclose the location of this base;

5) Disclosure of the location of this base would not serve any beneficial purpose;

6) It appears that some kind of agreement was made between the US government and deceptive ETCs and this agreement involved obtaining technology. This is understandable. It is a natural response--and usually a prudent one--for a less advanced civilization to obtain the technology of an advanced civilization that could be a threat. For example, native Americans acquired horses and eventually acquired guns from the European invaders. The right of self defense is not just a human right--it is a universal right. However, the word "invasion" would not properly characterize our current situation.

7) There are many of these deep underground bases in the US and those in the Southwest US are already well known. There are UFO researchers such as Bill Hamilton as well as researcher Richard Sauder who covers Underground Bases & Tunnels in his books. Also, the proverbial cat has already been let out of the bag in the early 1990s when researchers like abductee Dr. Karla Turner exposed the underground base connection as well as the incredible ability of ETs to deceive.

It is time to build bridges instead of walls. It is a time for healing. Trying to solve problems with secrecy, violence and wars has obviously failed to solve the world's problems; it only succeeds at traumatizing mankind and thwarting our growth as spiritual beings. That is why I support amnesty for those involved with underground bases or the government cover-up. Also, given the incredible abilities of the ETCs to control the minds of Earth humans it is possible that some of the individuals involved with such "government" projects may not be capable of saying "No thanks".

It appears that a schism has developed in military-intelligence sectors whereby some personnel do not want to continue down the same old road of man's inhumanity man. After all, shouldn't humans be on the side of humans?
Granted that it is generally prudent for a less advanced culture to obtain the higher technology of a potential adversary, it must be questioned--At what price? Should we sacrifice sanity and spiritual advancement for the technological candy from ETs? Or is it even possible to politely back out of "agreements" with manipulative ETs who lie at every turn? Are benevolent ETs waiting for humans to make the first move away from this insane, inhumane paradigm?


RESEARCH METHODS
This research is unbiased because I am not a member of any religion or secret society, nor do I have any connections with the CIA, NSA, ONI or other military/governmental agency. Also, this is not channeled information. These are just the raw, recorded memory retrieval sessions of real people. With this information truth seekers can connect all the dots in the Extra-Terrestrial Conspiracy.

Unfortunately, some abduction researchers have been injecting false data into the abduction phenomenon because they are connected with the CIA, etc. They have intentionally omitted pertinent data and phenomena as well. Also, their research is colored by their personal philosophies--their viewpoints limited by their self-imposed parameters of reality. Therefore, much of the data on this website will be new even to seasoned abduction researchers.

Unfortunately, many researchers and students of the "UFO" phenomenon get stuck in the Blind-Man-and-the-Elephant syndrome. That is, they grab on to only part of the elephant (i.e., a piece of the puzzle) thinking they have the whole picture. This phenomenon, of course, can keep one from examining other pieces of the puzzle, which may be out of one's comfort zone or may violate religious taboos. However, when one finally puts all the pieces to the puzzle together it paints a very clear and coherent picture.

I have primarily used non-hypnotic memory retrieval techniques that are in many ways more reliable, safer, less stressful and more therapeutic than hypnosis. I have structured my books and website so that truth seekers can also learn the memory retrieval techniques that I used so that they can do their own independent research. Abductees can also learn these non-hypnotic techniques to safely uncover their own abduction memories and relieve the trauma associated with abductions.

Abductions can be very traumatic and these techniques have proven invaluable in relieving the mental, emotional and physical traumas of the abduction experience. Additionally, these techniques can help abductees access and disable the mental programming that ETs use to control, disempower and deceive them. Therefore, this website is not just intended to expose the hidden source of the problem but also to provide solutions to help reverse the machinations of the ETCs.

As one progresses from chapter to chapter the reader can observe the various memory retrieval techniques used and helpful hints will be given throughout the materials to facilitate a better understanding of these techniques. For those who wish to learn these techniques (http://web.archive.org/web/20110208115750/http://matrixrevealed.com/Research%20Tools.htm), I am willing to help by answering questions and connecting people to the information they are seeking. However, one must first read both Book One and Book Two to establish a framework for discussion.


THE TIME IS NOW
I retired from the "UFO" circus a number of years ago. The time was not right to release this information to the public. I am releasing it now because I believe people are better prepared for this information due to the internet and alternative media. I've also noticed that some forums on the internet are beginning to address topics that few people would even consider in the mid-90s when I first released this information--Topics like past life ET contacts, out of body abductions and in-between lives implants.

Of course, abduction researchers like Dr. Karla Turner, Barbara Bartholic, et al, were reporting similar phenomena in the 1990s. Also, other unrelated research has validated various aspects of my research and experiences, e.g., Zecharia Sitchin's books, William Bramley (GODS OF EDEN), Dr. Edith Fiore (ENCOUNTERS), underground base engineer/abductee Phil Schneider, etc.

The Bilderbergers and other elitists appear to be making their final moves at full throttle to implement 1984-style martial law--even though they may not call it that--and a cashless society. With elitist politicians advocating control over the internet and alternative media, I feel a sense of urgency to give this information to others who will save this information to computer disk and paper in the event of future censorship.

To the best of my knowledge much of the information on this website is not available in any other book or website. Please forward the URL to this website http://www.MatrixRevealed (http://web.archive.org/web/20110208115750/http://www.matrixrevealed/) to all your friends. I need all the help I can get to get the word out and I'm not sure how much time we've got left. Also, please print out the pages to my books from this website and add them to your library. It's free.

Readers should start with the Glossary, Introduction and then Chapter One of THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET (http://www.lunahelia.com/docs/cash.zip) (Book One) and read all the subsequent chapters in their proper order to connect the dots. The first chapters may seem like ET 101 to those who are familiar with ET abductions. Therefore, experienced abduction researchers may want to skim or skip through familiar territory. The material quickly advances into subject matter that few books cover. The Extra-Terrestrial Conspiracy comes full circle in Chapter 9 of the THE EYE OF RA (http://www.lunahelia.com/docs/cash2.zip) where the final dots are connected.

The information on this website is given free of charge. No one may sell or profit from this information. However, people are welcome to print out the pages of my books and save all the pages to disk as long as they are not sold for a profit or altered.

Here is a link to download Book One, THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET: [/URL][URL="http://web.archive.org/web/20100929200655/http:/lunahelia.com/docs/cash.zip"]http://lunahelia.com/docs/cash.zip (http://web.archive.org/web/20100929200655/http:/lunahelia.com/docs/cash.zip)

Here is a link to download Book Two, THE EYE OF RA: http://lunahelia.com/docs/cash2.zip (http://web.archive.org/web/20100929200655/http:/lunahelia.com/docs/cash2.zip)

This is my gift to humankind. Please keep it free and unaltered.

Yours in the Awakening,
Truman L. Cash

[Houman]

Beings that people refer to as extra-terrestrials (ETs), aliens, fallen angels, demons, etc. have created a matrix of deception in order to control the inhabitants of Earth. I discovered this matrix primarily because 1) as a truth seeker I have an insatiable desire to understand the nature of reality and 2) because I am a "chosen one".

A "chosen one" is an individual who is contacted and abducted by extra-terrestrials repeatedly from lifetime to lifetime. The term "chosen one" is a term that the ETs themselves use both to describe us, to flatter us and to deceive us. "Chosen ones" are sometimes placed in high-level positions in governments, secret societies and religions. By conducting extensive past life research with "chosen ones", the true, hidden history of Planet Earth can be discovered.


This term "chosen one" appears in Dr Turner's research (in reference to abductees). According to Russ Dizdar some programed multiples (via Satanic Ritual Abuse) also refer to themselves as "chosen ones"

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[Houman]

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Taken: Inside the Alien-Human Agenda

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Karla Turner, Ph.D

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One of the Grays told her that she had been "altered a little" to fulfill a special purpose. The blond man said they had produced a "novel breed" from ova they'd taken from her. He told her she was a "Chosen One" and that her children and others so chosen would conquer the world through mastering the power of insinuations message she would be given in other encounters. Angie then became very sleepy and passed out until 9 a.m. the following morning, back in bed.
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In February 1989, she had another abduction in which she was called a "Chosen One" and was also shown a scene familiar from other abductee reports. One of the aliens touched her forehead, she said, and "a series of graphic images exploded" in her mind. She saw "a reddish-gold desert planet with two setting suns," a "galaxy," a "blood-red moon and a fiery orange sun exploding," and an "underground city" before she blacked out. When she regained consciousness, an alien told her their home was "Cassiopeia in the heavens" but that they had made a home for themselves on Earth before humans were created. After this, Angie passed out again and was returned home.

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The fourth alien showed her a small black box, which he gave her and asked her to look inside. She did, and again her mind "exploded" and was filled with images, this time abstract patterns of bright colors. He then told her that she would soon "have the power to make mental contact" with other Chosen Ones and would be able to "influence their minds," and then he touched her chest and she blacked out.

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The oldest man replied, but she was beginning to have a hard time understanding everything he said. She thought he said the group belonged to an organization called "High Shelf"
which worked mainly in "special underground stations." He also told her that she and other "Chosen Ones" were part of a mind-control project, to "carry instructions and temperance, via thought transference" to other people.

...

She was taken to a group of other abductees or "Chosen Ones" and was handed a small black box and told to open it. When she pulled open the lid, Angie said, "a mist of brilliant violet light" came out, covering the group of abductees and causing "a powerful electric sensation" after which she blacked out.

...
He told her that it was time for her group of Chosen Ones to carry out their "assigned tasks." This involved making contact with "certain people throughout the world" to "collect data" from their minds. And that data, in turn, would then be collected from the minds of the Chosen Ones by the aliens. All of this would be done, he said, through tiny implants in the head, devices that served many purposes. They could help the implanted people use their "special senses," for instance, and stay in contact with one another through dreams. Besides collecting data, the implants could also send instructions.
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Having been given repeated lectures about her special abilities as a "Chosen One," at one point Angie initiated an experiment with herself. "I decided to test my mental powers by giving thought transference a try," she reported. "I went to bed around 11 p.m. and concentrated long and hard to project my image into my sister's dream. During the process, I drifted off to sleep and soon found myself in a dream in which Julia was present!

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[Houman]

Here is Truman Cash's first book... the second one is too large to attach...

[Houman]

from Phillip Emmons Isaac Bonewits (deceased, former member of the illuminati's Grand Druid Council according to Springmeier, wrote that 30 years ago)

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“We believe that Neopaganism is eventually going to become a mainstream religious movement, with hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of members, and that this will be A Good Thing, both for the individuals involved and for the survival of the Earth Mother. Neopaganism is riding the crest of the “baby boom.” Many people who grew up in the 60′s and 70′s are discovering us at about the same time that they are realizing both the desperate state of our planet and the eternal relevance of our youthful ideals. Membership in the Neopagan community is quietly growing at a geometric rate, both through word of mouth and the many do-it-yourself books now available, giving us an ever-greater impact on the mainstream culture as a whole. All these Neopagans are going to need publically accessible worship, teaching, counseling, and healing. Within thirty years we expect to see indoor temples and/or sacred groves throughout North America and Europe, staffed by full-time paid professional clergy. They’ll provide the full range of needed services to the Neopagan community, with no more “corruption” than the Unitarians, the Buddhists, or the Quakers experience. We see globally televised Samhain rites at Stonehenge, and Beltane ceremonies attended by thousands in every major city. We see Neopagan clergy taking part as equals in international religious conferences with clergy from other faiths. We see our children wearing pentacles, Druid Sigils, and Thor Hammers to school as easily as others now wear crosses, Stars of David, or Hands of Fatima.”

[Midnight]

This thread has enough information that leads me to believe it is quite possible that the central idea that we are a food source for multidimensional beings might actually be correct. I am not saying that I am sure this is true, because I believe some skepticism is required when it comes to anecdotal accounts, particularly involving "high strangeness".

But when the various testimonies from many diverse sources all point to the same conclusion, I have to say I am leaning towards tentative belief.

So my question is how inclusive is this matrix, this scam?

I just read about the "chosen ones", those that are the focus of the reptilian abduction program involving a number of lives interfered with for evil purposes. Is it just the chosen ones that are ensnared in this matrix. The gnostic material suggest otherwise. I just read a book named ""Journey of Souls" by Michael Newton that describes a benevolent scenario in the between lives astral planes, where wise spirit guides help us chose the best next life. So where are the archon-reptilians in this pleasant world?

Are the Chosen Ones the only participants in the matrix? Somehow I doubt it.

[Houman]

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“I took the knife and the scalp part off and peeled the flesh off the bone and kept the skull and the scalp… If I could have kept him longer, all of him, I would have” - Jeffrey Dahmer (talking about the murder on Anthony Sears)

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[Carmody]

This thread has enough information that leads me to believe it is quite possible that the central idea that we are a food source for multidimensional beings might actually be correct. I am not saying that I am sure this is true, because I believe some skepticism is required when it comes to anecdotal accounts, particularly involving "high strangeness".

But when the various testimonies from many diverse sources all point to the same conclusion, I have to say I am leaning towards tentative belief.

So my question is how inclusive is this matrix, this scam?

I just read about the "chosen ones", those that are the focus of the reptilian abduction program involving a number of lives interfered with for evil purposes. Is it just the chosen ones that are ensnared in this matrix. The gnostic material suggest otherwise. I just read a book named ""Journey of Souls" by Michael Newton that describes a benevolent scenario in the between lives astral planes, where wise spirit guides help us chose the best next life. So where are the archon-reptilians in this pleasant world?

Are the Chosen Ones the only participants in the matrix? Somehow I doubt it.

I believe the one thing that Micheal Newton does NOT want to do, is scare people unnecessarily. For fear itself, is the problem.

the parasite problem.

Page 86, in 'journey of souls'. Or was it page 56? Anyway, this relevant passage is included in the incomplete google books limited preview, that is on the net.


ONE WORD. One line.

"WAR".

When souls get lost in the Bardo, the dark dream like spaces we occupy when dreaming and when we die, before we move on, into the light. some of us go out there and...free them. And so on.

The 'stage' or place, is called the bardo, in one system of reference. some call it the ghost world. we can interact with this world, from that place. this is the zone of remote viewing, etc. it is another dimension that overlaps.

If one is strong within the self, this is not a problem, no war or damage can take place. The achronistic parasite MUST instill fear... in order to get what it wants. This is due to the fear that emanates from the body's 'human' or avatar instinctual aspects.

which is why it is an appeal to EMOTIONS. part of our lesson plan.

Knowing these aspects, as you can then cognate, does indeed help solve the problem.

which is the WHY of their desire to totally wipe out spirituality, so there is no pre-condition of knowledge or knowing that can defeat this mechanism of their using this 'fear'. (and other negative states)

Once one knows this... then one can then move into one's strength, which, in the bardo is WILL and the power of CREATION.

The parasite wants to use this energy, kinda like how you want to eat a cow, or chicken.

Don't take it personally, invest in understanding and knowledge...and you can then be prepared.

"seek detachment", as they say.

Ponder this... and then the 'aha!' (eureka!) moment will take place..and it will all begin to fall into place, to take shape. The why and the how and all that follows..will finally take place in the self. The answers will come of their own, as the logic path flows into place, based on the observation of the data.

[Houman]

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The thigh of Malvia Keller, a victim of Richard Ramirez ‘The Night Stalker’. She had been bound and beaten around the head with a hammer and her ribs had been crushed by a table. Ramirez then drew a pentagram on her thigh with lipstick.

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[Houman]

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“Sheep’s heart, stuck with nails and pins. Said to have been used to break a spell cast by a witch over a farmer’s cattle.”

~ Miracles & Charms

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[Carmody]

Half the job, as one can see from the images... is psychology, which begets a mindstate, which emanates power.

Power or energy via will, or belief, conviction.

The meditation of evil, via similar methods of that of Buddhism or whatnot, but with other emphasis, or mindset.

A mindset based on the avatar or body's emotional connectivity issues, as an addition into an overarching force.

Basically, spiritual immaturity, tied to bodily function, as an added force --- dumped into connection to spirit.

[Houman]

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[Hervé]

Skull of a real one... from Don Nicoloff website:



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[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Hervé]

Society's Double Standard on Depravity
May 12, 2012

Depravity is widely available on TV and the Internet. While people are encouraged to indulge in depraved fantasies, they are not permitted to act them out. This creates a cognitive dissonance. Weaker souls like Michael Rafferty cross the line.

by Henry Makow Ph.D.


Canadians held their collective breath Friday as jurors deliberated whether to find Michael Rafferty, 31, guilty of the rape/murder of eight-year-old Tori Stafford April 8, 2009 near Woodstock Ont.

The suspense was heightened by the fact that an array of child porn/ molestation found on Rafferty's computer had been ruled inadmissible by the judge due to a technicality. The jury was not aware of this material.

Rafferty's lawyer had made a convincing case that Rafferty was just a bystander. His girlfriend Terri-Lynn McClintik, 21, already found guilty, had lured the child into the car and later killed her.

There was relief Friday evening when the jury found Rafferty guilty on all counts and sentenced him to life in prison with no parole for 25-years.

[...]

THE TAKE-AWAY

"As the awful autopsy images were flashed on to the screen - Tori's skull was cracked, 16 of her 24 ribs were broken by being stomped upon, and her liver was lacerated - [Rafferty] looked bored, and at one point yawned." Source (http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fm.theglobeandmail.com%2Fnews%2Fnational%2Fmichael-raffertys-evil-defies-explanation%2Farticle2430646%2F%3Futm_medium%3DFeeds%253A%2520RSS%252FAtom%26utm_source%3DNews%26utm _content%3D2430646&ei=gaSuT_FhiI6DB96KmcoJ&usg=AFQjCNFidYBNzCDQ1ikLT490k4YsVYPDmA&sig2=Ih_EcddEwwJRxFa9f8b4Pw)

There are two lessons here. The first is the judge was overly fastidious in
defending the "rights" of this child rapist-murderer.

Why? The legal system is controlled by Freemasons who, at higher levels, are believed to indulge in this kind of depravity. Was Judge Heeney protecting his own? Every lawyer and judge should be required to disclose if he is a Freemason.

Secondly, society is sending a mixed message to people like Michael Rafferty.

If the behavior is illegal, then why is it depicted and disseminated everywhere? The hidden message is "Do It!."

Tori Stafford would be alive today if Rafferty hadn't seen these depraved scenarios.

Let's be honest- the Illuminati are Satanists. Their agenda is to create demons, psychopaths, zombies and monsters.

If we really want to stop child sacrifice, we need to ban hardcore pornography and unmask the powerful people behind it.

Let's end the cognitive dissonance. If its illegal to do it, it should be illegal to depict it.

Instead it is going mainstream. (http://www.henrymakow.com/porn_in_the_war_against_you.html)


Full article here: http://www.henrymakow.com/rafferty.html

[Carmody]

I'd like to think that the judge was making absolutely sure that there was no chance of mistrial or retrial, To be sure of a solid conviction. Sometimes people need to see things for what they are.

[mountain_jim]

This thread has enough information that leads me to believe it is quite possible that the central idea that we are a food source for multidimensional beings might actually be correct. I am not saying that I am sure this is true, because I believe some skepticism is required when it comes to anecdotal accounts, particularly involving "high strangeness".

But when the various testimonies from many diverse sources all point to the same conclusion, I have to say I am leaning towards tentative belief.

So my question is how inclusive is this matrix, this scam?

I just read about the "chosen ones", those that are the focus of the reptilian abduction program involving a number of lives interfered with for evil purposes. Is it just the chosen ones that are ensnared in this matrix. The gnostic material suggest otherwise. I just read a book named ""Journey of Souls" by Michael Newton that describes a benevolent scenario in the between lives astral planes, where wise spirit guides help us chose the best next life. So where are the archon-reptilians in this pleasant world?

Are the Chosen Ones the only participants in the matrix? Somehow I doubt it.

I believe the one thing that Micheal Newton does NOT want to do, is scare people unnecessarily. For fear itself, is the problem.

the parasite problem.

Page 86, in 'journey of souls'. Or was it page 56? Anyway, this relevant passage is included in the incomplete google books limited preview, that is on the net.


ONE WORD. One line.

"WAR".

When souls get lost in the Bardo, the dark dream like spaces we occupy when dreaming and when we die, before we move on, into the light. some of us go out there and...free them. And so on.

The 'stage' or place, is called the bardo, in one system of reference. some call it the ghost world. we can interact with this world, from that place. this is the zone of remote viewing, etc. it is another dimension that overlaps.

If one is strong within the self, this is not a problem, no war or damage can take place. The achronistic parasite MUST instill fear... in order to get what it wants. This is due to the fear that emanates from the body's 'human' or avatar instinctual aspects.

which is why it is an appeal to EMOTIONS. part of our lesson plan.

Knowing these aspects, as you can then cognate, does indeed help solve the problem.

which is the WHY of their desire to totally wipe out spirituality, so there is no pre-condition of knowledge or knowing that can defeat this mechanism of their using this 'fear'. (and other negative states)

Once one knows this... then one can then move into one's strength, which, in the bardo is WILL and the power of CREATION.

The parasite wants to use this energy, kinda like how you want to eat a cow, or chicken.

Don't take it personally, invest in understanding and knowledge...and you can then be prepared.

"seek detachment", as they say.

Ponder this... and then the 'aha!' (eureka!) moment will take place..and it will all begin to fall into place, to take shape. The why and the how and all that follows..will finally take place in the self. The answers will come of their own, as the logic path flows into place, based on the observation of the data.

I really appreciate this discussion, because as I have been following along in this thread, I have been trying to integrate this information with what I read in the 2 Newton Souls books I own and read last year. I did not remember reading the quoted passage above. I also try to understand and integrate the positive 'souls in school' viewpoint of Newton's regressions with the 'Chosen Ones - alien/other-entities-control of souls over mulitiple lifetimes' reported by some of these researchers in this and similar information threads here.

[Carmody]

Half the job, as one can see from the images... is psychology, which begets a mindstate, which emanates power.

Power or energy via will, or belief, conviction.

The meditation of evil, via similar methods of that of Buddhism or whatnot, but with other emphasis, or mindset.

A mindset based on the avatar or body's emotional connectivity issues, as an addition into an overarching force.

Basically, spiritual immaturity, tied to bodily function, as an added force --- dumped into connection to spirit.

After all those images, this post got lost in the middle of that photo extravaganza. I feel it is an important post, that helps frame the whole thing that the imagery and the base components are all about. So I re- post it.

[Houman]

Half the job, as one can see from the images... is psychology, which begets a mindstate, which emanates power.

Power or energy via will, or belief, conviction.

The meditation of evil, via similar methods of that of Buddhism or whatnot, but with other emphasis, or mindset.

A mindset based on the avatar or body's emotional connectivity issues, as an addition into an overarching force.

Basically, spiritual immaturity, tied to bodily function, as an added force --- dumped into connection to spirit.

After all those images, this post got lost in the middle of that photo extravaganza. I feel it is an important post, that helps frame the whole thing that the imagery and the base components are all about. So I re- post it.

Those images are from Satanists sharing "material" on their rituals and their effects (some are quite weird and appear to show the manifestation of some "entities" )... I have tried to avoid
"some of them"...

[Houman]

I will add more images... these may not stay up forever as these are not stored on this forum's server...

[Houman]

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[The Arthen]

Amazing pictures. Thanks Houman.

[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Chester]

Posted by Houman
please take the time to read the posts before replying... she did not see the entity, it is a being reported by abductee (the interaction is in the "physical" not in the "astral"), although they call it "Horus-Ra" (for obvious reasons) they do not
claim the being to be the one worshiped by Egyptians (although there is a natural connection to be made if you dig)

Posted by bearcow
they call it horus ra for obvious reason yet it is not the same being worshiped by egyptians? Why confuse the issue?

Posted by Houman
Because they see a connection with it but don't have a full proof

maybe my experience might shed some light on this - see this post -

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45250-Jesus-the-man-JESUS-the-Archon----inspired-by-Houman--s-Horus-Ra-thread&p=491577&viewfull=1#post491577

justoneman

[Chester]

Half the job, as one can see from the images... is psychology, which begets a mindstate, which emanates power.

Power or energy via will, or belief, conviction.

The meditation of evil, via similar methods of that of Buddhism or whatnot, but with other emphasis, or mindset.

A mindset based on the avatar or body's emotional connectivity issues, as an addition into an overarching force.

Basically, spiritual immaturity, tied to bodily function, as an added force --- dumped into connection to spirit.

After all those images, this post got lost in the middle of that photo extravaganza. I feel it is an important post, that helps frame the whole thing that the imagery and the base components are all about. So I re- post it.

I caught it the first time as well as your other posts. They are good posts, thanks Carmody

[Houman]

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[Houman]

http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/karuseller/1697558752/1/tumblr_l8tokp5Z9h1qbqq5f

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[Houman]

http://karuseller.tumblr.com/post/10842628964

"I am so beastly tired of mankind and the world that nothing can interest me unless it contains a couple of murders on each page or deals with the horrors unnameable and unaccountable that leer down from the external universes."
H.P. Lovecraft

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[Houman]

http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/karuseller/1641669851/1/tumblr_lc9c4qKsSZ1qbl28f
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[Houman]

http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/karuseller/1263908050/1/tumblr_l9xqvlMwrh1qbuh18



http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/karuseller/2057277326/1/tumblr_lcqjx22Pcs1qbuh18
The caption she wrote below the image posted above:

All of the week get trampled under
I do what I should do-
I go to the gym, i through up the food. I take my meds.
And still these deamons haunts me wherever I go.
Let me be free, Just for once.

[Houman]

I have a very real, multi-year and quite negative experience with the Horus-Ra entity. It will take me some time but I promise to provide this information in a post, hopefully within the next few weeks. I had my first session with Eve Lorgen this morning. Next session scheduled for early June. The story is difficult to tell but thanks to Avalon and this thread, I am close to being able to tell the story. Then the reader can decide what they want to think of archontic energies and specifically this lovely Horus-Ra thing.

I have started to write about my experience - specifically the messianic complex aspect in this post -

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45250-Jesus-the-man-JESUS-the-Archon----inspired-by-Houman--s-Horus-Ra-thread&p=490660&viewfull=1#post490660

Forgive my opinions now of messiahs (including jesus) - I do not wish to offend anyone.

The Crucifixion Hymn -
A Manichaean hymn in Parthian (http://www.gnosis.org/library/crucihymn.htm)


... Because of Satan the select were chosen by Jesus.
He (Satan) wanted to break through the fiery waves, to burn
the whole world with fire. The noble ruler (Jesus) changed his
garment and appeared before Satan in his power.
Then heaven and earth trembled, and Sammaèl plunged into
the deep. The true interpreter (Jesus) as filled with pity because
of the Light which the foe had devoured. He had raised it (the Light)
up from the deep pit of death to that place of zeal from which it
had descended.
Honor to you, Son of Greatness, who has liberated your righteous
ones. Protect, now, too, the Teacher Màr Zaku, the great keeper of your
radiant herd.

...

Awake, brethren, you chosen ones, on this day of the salvation of souls,
the foutreenth day of the month of Mihr, on which Jesus, the Son of God,
entered Parinirvana.
Harken, all you faithful:
When the time for the perfection of the Son of Man had come, all the
demons knew it. And the lord of the sinful doctrine ... covered himself
in deceit. And the demons took cunsel with each other. The twelve thrones
above were disturbed. Poison flowed down on the lower creation,
upon the sons, and the chalce of death was prepared for him (Jesus).
The Jews, the servants of the most high God, conceived of a deception ...
They conspired against the Son of Man. They devised evil; in deception
they brought forth false witnesses. Accursed Satan, who had always
troubled the apostles, molested the herd of Christ. He turned the treacherous
Iscariot into a steed, when the Most Beloved Jesus trusted the disciples.
He (Judas) indicated him to the night-watchman by a kiss on his hand.
He delivered the Son of God to the foes. He betrayed Truth. For the
sake of a rewrd that the Jews gave, he offered up his own lord and teacher.


Note:

Most Parthians were Zoroastrians, it is interesting that this text is attributed to them and Mani (who was Persian).

Here is a video on the difference between Persians and Romans

t_WqUbpRChU

and here is one on the clash between the 2 empires
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the whole set
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWdq_lHFX68&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpfGSy-iZH8&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_WqUbpRChU&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxS6V3lc6vM&feature=relmfu

[Houman]

Amazing pictures. Thanks Houman.

I will stop here, I think that what has been posted is sufficient to get the idea...
Houman

PS: I have tried to avoid most of those showing actual human sacrifice... but I did post some anyway to make the point that although this "stuff" is "weird", it is nevertheless real and as people are having forums on cooking or ufos, the people involved in this are having similar forums on the "activities" shown in these images... (most of these forums are "locked/private" and explicit terms are replaced by implicit ones)

[Lettherebelight]

Thanks for stopping...we all know there are people who enjoy swimming in rivers of blood; doesn't mean we have to go wading in as well....sheesh!

[Houman]

Thanks for stopping...we all know there are people who enjoy swimming in rivers of blood; doesn't mean we have to go wading in as well....sheesh!

then you missed the point...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=477252&viewfull=1#post477252

From http://www.thefamilytreeandsatanism.com/

“Another evening Jordan and I were in his living room enjoying the beautiful ocean view. Jordan went into his office and brought back a goblet. He took large crystals of salt out of the goblet and formed a pentagram on the rug with the salt. It was a large pentagram. He then chanted incantations. His chanting went on for at least one hour. I just stared out the window at the view and drank my wine. I didn't know what he was doing and really didn't want to know. I was scared. After an hour or so of Jordan chanting, a horrible looking demon appeared in the middle of the pentagram. It was human looking but especially ugly. Jordan began to interview the demon, looking for an appropriate teacher for a subject at the
occult school. Most of the instructors there are actually demons,” Hannah said slowly, as though I would not believe this.

...

Hannah said, “He was probably a nephilim, especially since Steven was so excited. A nephilim is born when a human woman is bred with a demon in a satanic ritual. Conception is very rare and a live human birth is even more rare. Satanists revere these half-human, half-demon
creatures.” “What do they look like, Hannah? Like the creature-demons in the pentagram in Jordan’s living room?” She answered, “They look like normal humans, except something on their body is excessively large. Perhaps a nose, or hands, or an unseen body part. They always have an excessively large body part. The demons in Jordan’s living room were complete demons. They were not the nephilim, such as Steven took you to see.”

...

Even though Jordan was involved in everything my family was doing, somehow it seemed different with him. He seemed more real,
somehow. ‘Jordan,’ I said, ‘my family is so screwed up. They must be the only ones doing this.’ “‘Oh, yeah,’ he grinned, ‘let me show you something.’ Jordan pulled out a huge poster. It was printed out from a computer. It would fill an
entire wall and then flow across the floor of an average-size room. ‘Look at this, Hannah. This is the key master for this city. And here are all the covens under me and all the other covens I’m connected to.’ “I couldn’t believe it. It really blew my mind. They all connected through computers. Steven and my grandparents were all networked with other people like them all over the world. I couldn’t grasp it. But that’s what Jordan’s poster showed me. Virtually every city in the world was
represented. “I told him I was going to go to the police and report that he was raping me. He just laughed very loudly and said, ‘Go ahead. March right in.
Don’t be surprised if you recognize people there.’”

[Houman]

and from the original post and http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/military-abduction-milabs-and-reptilians/horus-ra/#more-1095

“The purpose the Horus-Ra energy force is not only to consume humans and other species as well–their inner core–but also destroy the purity of it. It wants people to forget the ultimate reality and connection to God. In every way this is true. And it goes with other races as well. Most of them are as lost as humans. Some are awakened like some humans are, too. That is why these New Age movements are so dangerous–they are a straight portal for these darker forces to manifest. They make people to compete who are the most spiritually gifted, most knowledgeable, who have more healing/psychic powers etc., and make the whole scam revolve around human ego, which becomes the source for the ego of the evil itself. So it’s no coincidence Jesus said: do not worship pictures/idols of god and one must leave the material behind in order to follow the route to God. The God is within. So that’s why there is so much ritual performances within the NWO network. The secretive “occult” energy makes the evil stronger, gives these people feeling of specialty and power. It corrupts the purity.”

[Lettherebelight]

Whatever...just remember the theory that some people consider that 'any publicity is good publicity'.

[Houman]

Whatever...just remember the theory that some people consider that 'any publicity is good publicity'.

In their case the rule is
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7n4EZnpRM6o/TOlP6ATm-0I/AAAAAAAAAGY/dDP2OnxkTHA/s1600/rihanna%2Bshhh.jpg

anyhow here is a little something to lighten up the atmosphere...

Ob6TTU1knUM

[Lettherebelight]

Muchas gracias, I know your intent is a noble one.

http://www.fireflyforest.com/images/wildflowers/plants/Passiflora-caerulea-1.jpg

[Hervé]

Looking at the "all-seeing-eye" and the things perpetrated around it, here is another facet of these pratices from Dr. Sue Arrigo whose articles can be found here:

http://avalonlibrary.net/Sue_Arrigo/


From:
Case 22A Were the US Troops Fed Poisonous Beverages on Purpose?
http://www.mediafire.com/?cex0oynxsj0 (http://www.mediafire.com/?cex0oynxsj0) :

Skulls and Bones Heaped High Through Recent Times



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‘John D. Rockefeller (1839-1937) laid claim to the title of being the "most ruthless American." He was a war profiteer during the Civil War ...’ See http://www.seekgod.ca/rockefeller.htm (http://www.seekgod.ca/rockefeller.htm)

This is the story of men who profited off the suffering of others. This is the story of men who intended millions to die and succeeded. This is a story of pride and eugenics, making not a Master Race, but sad men whose souls were small, dry, and deformed. Denied protective love in childhood, they sought satisfaction through money, sexual cruelty, and the worship of death. Then they invited others to rituals which destroyed their compassion and their consciences to make them like themselves. The Rockefeller Archives had one shelf of books just devoted to how to enslave others through black magic and sodomy. Their private journals left no doubt. If there is anything that the founding father’s of the New World Order should be known for, it is their use of sexual humiliation and torture to coerce others. The line between the founders of the New World Order and the Abu Ghraib prison abuses is a straight one.


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[Photo of Allen Dulles, Director of the CIA. He was a lawyer for the Nazi Brown Shirt Army, was involved in the JFK assassination, and whom we will have much more to say about in later texts dealing with the JFK assassination. This text is some of the relevant background.]

“This is at Abu Ghraib ... The women were passing messages out saying 'Please come and kill me, because of what's happened' and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It's going to come out."--Seymous Hersh http://www.boingboing.net/2004/07/15/hersh-children-raped.html (http://www.boingboing.net/2004/07/15/hersh-children-raped.html)



Were the camera rolling because they were making child pornography, or even snuff films, at US prisons for sale on the black market? Don’t you have to ask that question, when you hear that? Please see upcoming case.

[...]

As a CIA physician I examined prisoners at three US prisons in Iraq, after the US Administration said that those who committed the crimes had been arrested. I documented at those three prisons, one of them being Abu Ghraib, that the torture was ongoing. It also included the torture of many innocent women and children. [See my report which is summarized in a later case.] The sexual torture was official US covert policy as proved later by the torture memos. See the book Administration of Torture: A Documentary Record from Washington to Abu Ghraib and Beyond (http://www.amazon.com/Administration-Torture-Documentary-Record-Washington/dp/0231140525/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1214064919&sr=1-1) by Jameel Jaffer and Amrit Singh. The US Administration’s chief legal strategist, John Yoo, said that the US Administration reserves the right to torture innocent children, including by crushing their testicles or gouging out their eyes. See Permissible Assaults Cited in Graphic Detail at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/05/AR2008040502099_pf.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/05/AR2008040502099_pf.html)



Please see the 2-minute clip Impeachment 2007 - A Constitutional Duty (Seymour Hersh) http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Seymour+Hersh+ACLU+&sitesearch=# (http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Seymour+Hersh+ACLU+&sitesearch=#)


[...]

Because I was in a position in which I was called upon by DCI’s to give educated guesses, I read avidly in both the CIA’s files and the Rockefeller Archives. I had access to the later after DCI Helms ordered me as a young woman to try to keep track of what Nelson Rockefeller gave the Russians. Since the Rockefeller Family had helped fund the Boleshvik Revolution, DCI Helms had reason to want to keep an eye on the Rockefeller’s Russian dealings. Dangling a young woman in front of Nelson was one way of Helm’s doing that. Very powerful people are often not clever spies like Ames or Walker. They do not feel that they have to be exceedingly secretive since they have the power to obstruct the wheels of justice from turning.

The Rockefeller Archives are not open to the public. Since I had access to them for decades through Nelson and later David and Rodman Rockefeller, I want to say a few words about that attempted coup. I am not an unbiased source in so much as I had reason to complain about the conduct of the CIA, the Rockefellers, and the KGB towards me, in about that order. Young women are frequently the targets of sexual harassment, especially in espionage settings.

The plans for the New World Order preceded the start of WWI. Per the documents in the Rockefeller Archives the New World Order was envisioned as a way to enslave the populace to do the bidding of elite. Basically, they wanted a feudal system again in which people were dependent on the Masters in order to eat and had to obey them to live. John D. Rockefeller and his wealthy Robber Baron friends sent many letters back and forth extolling the virtues of slavery. John D. Rockefeller, Sr. had made money off of war profiteering during the Civil War.

[...]


A Robber Baron’s Delight in the Suffering of Others—1929 Stock Market Crash

Nelson Rockefeller used to brag to me that John D. Rockefeller caused the 1929 stock market collapse. It ruined his competitors, the smaller investor who were caught by surprise when it happened. He said that this forefather of his was delighted by the sight of his business rivals jumping out of Wall Street buildings to their deaths. He had told Nelson how much he enjoyed that and wanted to repeat that highlight of his life again. It was his dying request that it get repeated. This was something that Nelson told me many times, almost every time Helms sent me over to see him.

After 9-11, the Rockefellers made life-sized bronze statues of the people jumping out of the WTC as they fell to their deaths. They put them on public display in NY. The public outcry against the callous disregard of the victim’s families required them to remove them. The businessmen in the WTC towers were not the ultra wealth Robber Barons that could afford their own buildings. They were the international competitors of them. Perhaps the Rockefeller family thought the similarity of the events, both occurring near the NY Stock Exchange was sufficient to fulfill that death-bed wish of their extremely wealthy ancestor.

[...]


Many have been harmed. The honor of the whole of the human species has been harmed as a result of the atrocities that occurred. If the Rockefeller-Bush 1930’s eugenics conferences had intended the betterment of the human DNA, its results were little short of breeding denizens destined for hell.
http://www.eugenics-watch.com/eugbook/euod_ch1.html (http://www.eugenics-watch.com/eugbook/euod_ch1.html) .






(Below from: Case 25B The JFK Assassination--From the Memory Banks of a CIA Insider
Sue Arrigo, MD; Former Special Operation Advisor to DCIs)

The drawer labeled JFK in the Rockefeller Archives had the 11 files in them as I explained. I want to talk some about what was in those files as a way of releasing those men from the blackmail. The files were organized by number starting at the left end of the couch being 1. George Bush, Sr. was not so old at the time of the JFK assassination. Since the file had been started then it had material that included Skull and Bones and Bay of Pigs related type of events. Skull and Bones is a death worship cult and the Bay of Pigs was an invasion, so you can pretty well guess killing could have been a topic that the photos covered. Photos of soldiers killing are not necessarily useful black mail items. Bush, Sr. was not a soldier however. So, what about intelligence people?

There is definitely a difference between what an intelligence person in say Cuba could claim to be doing in the line of duty which is above and beyond what a civilian without that job could claim. I have already said that the Committee had ordered two hits of people who could blow Bush, Sr.’s cover as having been in the CIA before being a DCI. The question is whether the hits were to deny Bush, Sr. the excuse for the photos in which case they were likely ordered by Rockefeller? Or were the hits to hide that Bush worked for the CIA in order to hide his association with the CIA operatives who did the shooting of JFK? Bear with me a moment longer as I lay the framework for the considerations.

Prescott Bush had in essence worked for the Rockefellers in WWII as the Harriman-Bush bank had about 80% Rockefeller funds in it. See Loftus. It is quite reasonable to suppose the blackmail had long been practiced by the Rockefellers to keep their henchmen under control, given that Nelson and David Rockefeller had both had a hand in keeping those files up to date. I did find evidence in a drawer that showed that Prescott Bush had had much incriminating evidence against him squirreled away. He is long dead now. Why did the upkeep of the files not destroy that information? After all, keeping it exposed that the Rockefellers intended to blackmail him. Why keep that evidence for even a minute longer than it is useful? I thus had to conclude that it did have a utility that was just not immediately apparent to me.

I will tell you what I saw in those files and you can ponder the question with me. First off, their was about a 3 page document. It was rather like a shipping list, but it was items from Auschwitz that had been shipped on the Hamburg America shipping line of Bush’s to the States. The items had been taken off those being shipped to Auschwitz. There were lots of things like mink coats, gold watches, gold jewelry, loose diamonds and the usual. Most of the items were things that one might be able to claim that one had obtained from a pawn shop. But some of them were not. It is hard to explain why you have a jar of blue eyes in vodka and a jar of brown eyes in vodka. There is certainly no implication that Prescott Bush cut them out and put them in the jar--they were being sent to him. But even accepting them at shipping could raise eyebrows at the very least. The list did show that he had signed for the items on the invoice. The invoice was in English, so there was no plausible deniability. I thought about it and decided to try to figure out if the items had been tossed out immediately as unwanted. But before I had a chance to do that I found a photo of him dangling an eyeball above his mouth. I went back to the invoice--maybe it was a sheep eye. The invoice did not specify. I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt and conclude that it was not a human eye and that the photo was a gag in which he did not swallow it, but put it carefully back in the jar. But the next photo did not support my hypothesis. Of course, there could have been a gunman off of sight in the photo who was threatening to shoot him or another person, if he did not did what the photo showed. And he could have been injected with a drug against his will beforehand. So, I did not conclude based on that evidence that he had done what the photo showed of his own free will. In those days it was not likely that the image was digitally re-mastered at the time it was stored for black mail purposes, if my supposition in that regard was right. What is the difference between a harmless “fraternity” prank, a tasteless idiosyncrasy, and a blackmail-able offense? There may be no difference except in the mind of the person who is being black mailed. That is, if the person is comfortable with others seeing the photo, or has a ‘thick skin’ such a photo might not be blackmail material. But suppose you want to run for public office. Then an extra-marital affair, for example, may mean more than the end of a bad marriage you want out of anyway; it might mean the end of your political career. The next photo left no doubt in the viewer’s mind that publishing it in the newspaper would end a political career. It showed him with the jar of blue eyes in one hand, the other hand holding one mid air above a dog’s mouth with the dog begging. It was in such poor taste . And it looked too intentional and well coordinated for him to be dead drunk. He was standing up. I hoped that there was a gunman training a gun on him out of view threatening dire consequences. It distressed me that the jar was now only 3/4ths full when it had been completely full.

As I thought about it, I decided that printing that photo in the newspaper with a story about Prescott Bush’s role overseeing slave labor in Auschwitz per the Dutch spy who alleged that, could harm Bush, Sr.’s image. There is perhaps nothing strictly illegal about the act implied in the photo, but it is in such bad taste that it barely matters even if it was a sheep’s eye.

I went looking for the jar as there was a section of the Rockefeller Archives that has bizarre items in it. I was locked in the Archives rather like a prisoner while babysitting the dog liked me. Although I could not prove it was the same jar, it looked the same and was about a third full. When I opened it and sniffed inside, the dog stood up to beg. That seriously upset me. It was as if this dog had also been fed out of the specimens in the room. The smell was of alcohol, not formaldehyde. I screwed the lid back on the jar tightly and then went to where the treats for the dog were kept and feed him a standard dog bone. It was a real bone. I wondered why feeding him a piece of cow’s bone was something that I had never thought twice about.

Then I went back to the Prescott file. Most of the rest of the 30 or so photos were variations along the same lines. It was apparent that they had been sorted very carefully in increasing order of shock value. Someone had blackmail down to a fine art, much more subtly shaded then the way I had seen at the CIA. I wondered if there was an article in the Archives that explained it. I knew the Rockefellers quite well as a family since Helms had first assigned me to “help” Nelson Rockefeller not sell secrets to the Russians, esp. while he was Vice President. So, I knew that they liked to lock me in rooms for a while without food and come back at their convenience. Perhaps Nelson wanted to have a chance to talk to others without my listening in as my auditory memory is pretty good. Maybe once you got treated by one of them as a captive slave for an hour, they also decided to do it. It seemed rather bizarre behavior, but calling the police got nowhere. The Archives were always kept locked and the Rockefellers locked the door behind them when they were inside too. I liked to pretend that their security premiums required it to keep their bizarre items under wraps all the time.

Wealthy people, maybe people in general can have some weird behavior. See the movie based on true life about Howard Hughes called the Aviator for an example.

See Nelson Rockefeller's Presidential Power Grab Revealed at Last!! for some related background information http://www.reformation.org/rockefeller-for-president.html (http://www.reformation.org/rockefeller-for-president.html)

In that specimen room of the Rockefeller Archives there were lots of jars with eyeballs in them. They had labels on them which indicated a country and a date. For example, there was a jar labeled Guatemala with a date about 2 years after the CIA’s overthrow of the democraticaly elected President Arbenz.

There was also marked Iran from not long after the CIA re-installed the Shah of Iran so that the Rockefellers et al could get the oil. There was also one from Vietnam during the time of Operation Phoenix. As I looked at them, it occurred to me that the dark history of CIA torture and the training of torturers was being told in those dreadful jars.

Wanting to know who was sending those to the Rockefeller Archives, I went to its receiving dept. file cabinet. In it I was able to locate about a dozen invoices that listed “medical specimen-eyes”. The invoices were not so revealing as to a name of a person sending them, but the country was listed.

When I went back to the CIA, I was able to verify that the companies sending the eyes were CIA front companies. Through further research I found the name of a CIA operative at Headquarters still who had sent one of the jars and went to talk to him. Call him Jim. He was an old timer at the CIA, and like myself had been in Vietnam. He told me about the ‘good old days’ of Operation Phoenix and admitted that they did a ‘lot of carving during the interrogations’. I asked him if it was hard to cut an eyeball out of a dead body. He laughed at my innocence and said “Lady, they did not start out dead, so I can’t answer the question you asked, I can only tell you that on a living person, it ain’t hard.” I asked him if all of the CIA torturers had been trained to do that in Operation Phoenix, or if it was an ‘acquired specialty. He said, “most everyone had the training up at Catskill, but not everyone.” Alarm bells had gone off in my head. The CIA training camp called Catskill was in a remote part of upstate New York and the Rockefellers had an ultra fancy underground radiation shelter associated with it. I listened to him talk about the training he got up there, it sounded like the human medical experiments done at Auschwitz. I asked him if he still knew others in the CIA who had gone through that training with him. He searched in his files and handed me a list of about 20 names. It had a Skull and Bones emblem on the page.

By talking to a couple of other men on the list, I was able to confirm that they had learn to cut out eyes of living mammals at that Catskill camp. I will spare the reader the gory details. One even had photos of that torture procedure being done in Vietnam. It was not a medical experiment or a surgery done by physicians using sterile gowns or anesthesia. Frankly, I was horrified and felt like vomiting. He laughed at my discomfiture and said, “you get used to it”.

Later though he admitted that he still had nightmare and sometimes drowned the pain in alcohol. I asked him if the eyeballs were routinely perserved in alcohol. He said, “No, only if there was a special order.” I asked him if he knew how many jars of eyeballs had been sent Stateside. He said, “From my unit, I would say about 50.” I asked him who was the end recipient. He didn’t know, but the 3rd man I spoke to said, “Probably Nelson Rockefeller, but don’t quote me.”

Then I looked up the history of the Catskill base. It was on a piece of land donated by the Rockefellers. That sounded like a bonus for the taxpayers, except that the CIA had paid to build the Hilton of Radiation Shelters just for the Rockefeller Family on that piece of land. The CIA training center was the cover story of why the CIA needed to do that.

[write4change]

These stories of evil perpetrated by men representing my country would be far more eye opening than pages and pages of depravity lasting the centuries. The myth was that we were beyond all that not that we encapsulated it and hid it from view.

From the Matt Damon movie "We own this country, you just live here." John Foster Dulles taught in American history books as a true patriot. the question is patriotic to what?

[Hervé]

[...]

... the question is patriotic to what?

This thread is an attempt to answer that very question.

[Chester]

Whatever...just remember the theory that some people consider that 'any publicity is good publicity'.

so let's just keep sticking our heads in the sand... maybe it will go away.

Thanks Houman - in fact ... keep it rolling. It is critically important this gets in front of the faces of everyone so that perhaps enough people will wake up and we can put a stop to it - via the 100th monkey or any other means.

This is the root cause of all problems on earth at this time.

[Houman]

whatever they say, whatever they do, it is a beautiful world...

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[Chester]

specifically for Houman - I decided to read through the Horus-Ra thread again as I feel I have a better overall understanding as to what I may be dealing with and so I thought I may have missed some important items in my first run through. I just discovered this in post #25 and now I have concerns -

The FMS fails if the person’s Soul component refuses to follow our suggestions, because the abductee if basically and masochistically bound to the abduction phenomenon, for he has a personality which is completely overwhelmed and prostrate by the alien presence. It is easy to recognize the abducted person who belongs to this group, since he can be defined as pathologically depressed or as extremely self-referential.

The self-referential characteristic is, according to our point of view, the result of a reaction which is the opposite of depression (low Spirits, TN). In other words, while in the pathologically self-referential person the Spirit, (the male part of the self,) wants to drive the life’s game besides the fact that the Soul is practically absent, in the pathologically depressed person the Soul is still absent and doesn’t participate to life’s experiences, (this is true for the overwhelming majority of the abductees,) but in this case the Spiritual component is also practically overwhelmed and helpless against the alien presence within his physical body/container.

Partly through your encouragement but mostly through a need to get this stuff all out, I made my posts (and have only covered about 25% of the whole story). Just before I started to post, I had experienced a deep depression where every day I wished I would die.

This started after I came out of the last psychosis (early February of this year) and continued up until April 26th when I discovered your thread. I had the big a-ha moment and entered a pink cloud state that lasted several days. As the pink cloud wore off I started to post my story. But I now see all that as having swung on the pendulum to the other end of the spectrum as Dr. Malanga pointed out - self-referential. I was intending to complete my personal story in subsequent posts, but now I am concerned I am simply feeding the monster(s)... implying the monster(s) still have me well within their grasps.

I am in a very safe place but I am also surrounded by relatives that are clearly abductees (at least clear to me). All of them are practicing addicts in complete denial of their addictions. They are good folks but still. In that same post #25 Dr. Malanga points out how these archonic beings can get to their targets through relatives/friends that are heavily under their influence. I have no options as to where I live and I really feel confident they can no longer have their full way with me but...

should I stop with the self-referential posts or should I complete my story. It has been hard enough to open up and I fear shutting down now may stop me from completing the story.

Please, give me your opinion, thanks
Chester

[Houman]

It has been hard enough to open up and I fear shutting down now may stop me from completing the story.


Chester: You should feel free to complete your story if you wish so. Whatever your decision is, I would suggest continuing working with someone with experience in working with people with anomalous trauma (such as Eve Lorgen or one of Dr Malanga's colleague/associate).

Houman

[Houman]

from http://flashmentalsimulation.wordpress.com/tag/dr-corrado-malanga-english/

FROM “ALIEN CICATRIX 2″

by Dr. Corrado Malanga, July 2005

We are so grateful to Daniele F. and Nikola Rikov for making this translation real!

THE GLOBAL PICTURE OF THE ALIEN INTERFERENCES

In order to better explain what an alien interference is I will use a three-dimensional flowchart for the whole phenomenon, as it is already described in the book Alien Cicatrix (Still not available in English, as of today, T.N.).

Before explaining the entire sequence of the alien action process on the abductee, we need to introduce the different characters in this story. They are represented here by special objects to ease their recognition in the flowchart during the abductee’s life, when the issues related to the abductions manifest themselves. As you can see in the following diagram, which we will read starting from the bottom left corner, there’s a blue parallelepiped that represents the abductee’s body. If we proceed upwards we can find three spheres having different colors. They represent: the abductee’s Soul (red with an A on top – Anima), his/her Mind (blue with an M on top – Mente.) and his Spirit (green with an S on top – Spirito). These three entities are an integral part of the abductee, whose vital essence is completed with his body. Above, still on the left, there’s an orange cone, representing the alien’s body.

The orange cone represents, either the Five fingered alien, or the Saurian, or the Insectoid, or the Bilobate which we also called Heart shaped.

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These are the names we used also in Alien Cicatrix. At the bottom right we can see a black ellipsoid with the word LUX: this is the Light being. Going upwards we can see a toroid with the word memoria aliena (alien memory), which represents the Alien Memories, both the active and the passive ones. The AAM (AMM, Alien Active Memory) or the APM (APM, Alien Passive Memory), exclusively belongs to the alien species we already mentioned. Going still upwards there’s a transparent cylinder with the word 6 Dita – 6 fingered , which represents the extra-dimensional parasite that can have at times an artificial body (created with a machine), and characterized by a humanoid ephebic structure: white haired, with various shaped pupils and six fingers. In order to follow all of these characters, we need to use this symbology to outline the abductee’s life.

The whole picture, even if it could seem at first hard to understand, actually includes simple smaller windows having a black background, which are called CICLO VITALE (vital cycle), RIGENERAZIONE (regeneration) and COPIATURA (copying), and finally a window with a red background named supersoldati (supersoldiers).

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We’ll consider the whole scheme in detail at the end of this section, but let’s look at the starting point now: the moment when the abductee is born.

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When the abductee is born, he has a body containing a Mind, a Soul and a Spirit, having their own Consciousness, and since they are overlapping, they are not aware of being the sum of three different things.

It is now that the LUX starts to parasitise the abductee, and the also by the Six fingered alien hooks itself to the abductee.

In particular, the LUX parasites the person even before the fetus is detached from the mother’s placenta.

The Six fingered alien, as it is described in Alien Cicatrix, will intervene only later on, when it is convenient for him to make use of the abductee Soul’s resources; now it is not possible to know exactly when, but this is not particularly important. We are still in the first few days of life, or actually in the first few hours, when the newborn is already taken through a physical abduction.

At times this kind of interference takes place when the abductee is still in the mother’s womb and still connected to the placenta.

The “soon to be abductee” Consciousness tells that “those beings” need to program her/him: this programming places in the newborn’s brain the so called Alien Active Memories (AAM) in a forbidden access area.

The programming can use different techniques, depending on the alien which performs it.

As an example, the Saurian alien uses the abductee’s optic nerve as a “transmission cable”: he inserts the data in a way that looks to the to the abductee, during the hypnosis, as a series of electrical stimuli appearing as images and colors.

Now that the abductee has already been parasitized by the LUX and the Six fingered, he/she is taken again, they momentarily take out the LUX and the Six fingered in order to avoid useless interferences, and he/she gets to be re-programmed introducing an Alien Active Memory.

The AAM is the sum of an alien’s Spirit and Mind, but it doesn’t include his body, as we can see from the upper extension of the following graph:

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The abductee, in the bottom right part, is programmed using an Alien Active Memory and in the meantime they momentarily take out his Soul component (the little red ball).

The Soul is used in a regeneration cycle: it enters in the alien’s body that has his own Mind and Spirit (AAM), and revitalizes it, so to guarantee his physical survival.

Then the alien is split up: the body goes in a “fridge”, if we can say that. In the worst alien worst case scenario the alien body could be already dead, and so the corresponding AAM is then left in the the abductee’s body until it is possible to find a new place for the AAM in a newborn alien body.

So the Soul stays for just a few seconds in the assembled alien (upper left), but she must then be absolutely put back again in the the abductee’s body, which is the only one where she can permanently stay.

Now let’s see what happens when following the arrow pointing upwards on the right.

Through this operation (taking out the Soul, T.N.), repeated at least twice a year, the Soul revitalizes the alien, which in this way will not die, neither in his body, nor in his Spirit and Mind.

This revitalization cycle takes place regardless of the presence of the AAM and for all the alines who need it.

To be more clear, each abductee has only one AAM, but she supplies her energy, through her Soul to a bunch of aliens: the Saurian, the Insectoid, the Heart shaped and the Five fingered blonde (Orange). Moreover she supplies her energy, every now and then, also to the LUX and the Six fingered, who do not need to take her body away. (T.N.: since the abductee can be either a man or a woman, we use alternatively female or male third person pronouns.)

The LUX actually parasitize the abductee continuously, and the Six fingered has an optimum Mind control on the abductee, which he uses on the abductee’s mind while he is comfortably closed in his place, in his dimension, probably using a console or some kind of tool which communicates with the abductee. As we already said in Alien Cicatrix, the Six fingered alien uses a physical body only when he needs it, but he actually does not have a body, just like the LUX and the AAM which don’t have a body. He partially disconnect the abductee’s Soul and brings it to his dimension, and there, with no hurry and using the proper equipment, he draws the energy he needs. After this “milking process”, the Soul, which never totally disconnects from the the abductee’s body, not even in this lapse of space-time, gets to be normally connected again to the body of the legitimate owner until the next exploitation.

[Houman]

from http://flashmentalsimulation.wordpress.com/2012/01/13/the-cloning/

FROM “ALIEN CICATRIX 2″

by Dr. Corrado Malanga, July 2005

We are so grateful to Daniele F. and Nikola Rikov for making this translation real!

THE COPYING ( a kind of CLONING but it’s not exactly )

As we can see in the picture below, while the Soul undergoes this treatment, the abductee’s body, together with his Spirit and his Mind, are temporarily free from the Lux and the Six fingered as they undergo the “copying” process.

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Each abductee’s component is copied / cloned, except his Soul, which cannot be copied for a thermodynamic reason: one cannot indeed copy something that never dies. The thermodynamic laws do not allow it or the energy of the entire system wouldn’t be conserved (Conservation of energy law).

The Soul goes back into the original, while the copy, which is light pink-colored, is used for quite different goals. As we can see from the scheme above, the copy gets all the information of the AAM.

If the abductee was to accidentally die, the contents in his AAM would be lost, and that would be a great damage for the corresponding alien, since “maybe” they would have just an empty body left.

The alien’s Mind and Spirit would be inevitably lost, and the alien would be forever terminated. Hence the need to create a copy of the abductee to store alien contents in it. In this context, we need to also consider the revitalization procedure for the copy: the Soul gets out of the original and also enters, for a few seconds, in the copy, to bring back life to it. The copies are actually unstable, and they tend to age quickly and to easily deteriorate, (just like the sheep named Dolly, the first sheep cloned by men through a disgusting experiment performed some years ago.)

That’s the reason why, every so often during his lifetime, the abductee gets to be copied all over again.

The copying and the revitalization procedures are done in special rooms, that we called the “cylinders rooms”, already described in Alien Cicatrix.

We need to point out that each time a copy is revitalized, it automatically performed a memory backup. This is a process in which the original and the copy are being compared with the respective memories and are integrated in order to avoid inconsistent memories in the future.

Often times, when an abductee gets to be taken for a period of time which is way longer than the usual 45 minutes – because the work that the aliens need to complete is bigger and because of possible space-time distortions that cannot be excluded for the abductee – they leave one of his copies to replace the original.

If this copy was to be carefully examined by the abductee’s relatives and close friends, they would find that it is actually different, and, knowing the abduction underhand work, it would be possible to verify this, since the copy is not perfect.

But usually nobody thinks about abductions, so the family is happy through explaining the differences just saying that the person was more different than usual only that day… but then they would re-examine all of the events if using the new light shed by the alien interference phenomenon information given here.

In this way we can understand why there are some abductees who don’t remember very important events in their lives, for just a short period of time, or they cannot recognize their husbands/wives, children or their closest friends.

In this way it’s easy to explain why some scars easily come and go on the abductees’ body, or when they cannot find their piercings, or if there are two different memories for the same event. The copy, even if he is not aware of being such, must be able to correlate with the abductee’s family and environment without arousing suspects. But it also seems that the memory backup is not perfect and there are wrong fragments inserted in the copy’s memory, or the other way around.

Just like when assembling a movie it is necessary to cut a scene and attach it to another one, in this case it’s necessary to insert in the original body’s memory, at some point, the piece of memory from the copy: since our Mind, actually our brain, is a write-only hard drive, it might happen that the original has two different piece of memory which are inconsistent with each other, or that there are pieces of memory which are non-credible. Let’s consider this practical example: if the abductee is taken, then copied and his copy is placed in the car where the original was taken from, the latter (the original, T.N.) sees his copy coming down into the car, and when he remembers that event during an hypnosis session, he remembers to be up there and to see himself going down into the car, but… he was driving at first… and what happens in the middle of that sequence? There’s nothing in the middle, since the copy is the one remembering his descent in the car and then driving, while the original doesn’t have any memory about that. So they need to cut the original’s memory at a certain point, and then attach the copy’s memory; even if there was a little mistake, that’d create a big mess. Even if there was no mistake there’s a damage: they just try to minimize it.

When carefully examining these memories during hypnosis, one immediately finds out that there are inconsiderate cuts and where these are. There can be people who totally lost their memories related to years and years of life. People who don’t remember that they were married or that they performed the military service, or that they attended a certain school, and so on…

So, two different experiences differentiate the copy from the original.

Eventually the original goes back to the Earth, after introducing again the LUX and Six fingered parasites back in it. The AAM now will always stay there: only if a possible alien body will be ready to receive the AAM, this latter will be detached from the abductee and restored again in the alien body. But in the abductee’s memory there will always be a copy for the alien’s memory, which we call in this case APM, that is Alien Passive Memory. The difference between the AAM and the APM is that this last one contains only a Mind, but not a Spirit; only the alien’s Mind, and so it actually doesn’t have any Willpower. In other words, the abductee is not parasitized anymore by an alien Willpower, but he will still and always have that recollection of memories, since, as I pointed out many times already in my work, the brain works like a write-only hard drive. Let’s see now what is the destiny for the copies and the original.

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We can see the original in the center of the chart: the LUX is re-inserted and the link with the Six fingered is reactivated. The Six fingered, unlike the LUX, acts on the connection points between the Spirit and the Mind of the abductee, and it creates strong interferences through parasitizing directly the person’s Mind: it changes his behavior, character, decisions and so on… The original is now ready to go back in the human society, till the next abduction, while the aliens hope that he will not remember anything and that he does not develop an awareness of this issue, otherwise the abductions wouldn’t be possible anymore, as we will see later in this work.

Life won’t be as easy for the copy: it’s main purpose is to save a backup memory for the AAM in case this one gets to be lost if the original dies. So the copy lives almost in a suspended Animation-like state, until the possible moments in which it is necessary to replace, for short periods of time, the original. Yet we have strong suspicions that the copy is being used also for military purposes in order to create and test some kind of “decerebrated supersoldiers”, who obeys to any programming used by the military itself. I need to make clear now that I won’t talk about the relationship between the military colluding with the aliens, since this subject still requires a more in depth study which I will do only if I will have a long life, which is unlikely.

We also need to underline that the abductees’ memories really make one think: we are talking about dreams and memories in which the abductee fights during a weird military training, but a very realistic one. There’s a question in the T.A.V. (Test di Auto Valutazione – Self Assesment Test,) which is just meant to verify if such memories are present.

It is strange indeed that almost all of the abductees have this kind of memories/dreams which are pretty frequent and also seem to be very similar to each other.

The weapons used are modern but conventional; the uniforms are not.

At times the abductee says that he/she wakes up just like if he/she is living a “near death experience”, and that he/she goes and fights or escapes, or he/she is forced to practice particular exercises, like a war training or weird games… some kind of a training game. At the end of these he gets to be awarded if he was good (? – A.N.); when he kills somebody, he always does it using particular martial arts and he seems to have an unexpected level of strength and agility.

There’s no stress and no emotions involved in these war actions: there’s only the idea of having to fight without, but knowing the goals… some kind of brain program in which one doesn’t not even know why he/she is doing what he/she does. One only knows that the others (?) are the bad enemies.

What made me suspicious about these stories is that there was no stress at all: for example no fear of dying while fighting. When re-living these episodes during the hypnotic sessions, something which has never been done before, there always was a clear understanding that it wasn’t possible to die, or that dying was not important. Moreover there was the recollection of the fatigue which was necessary to perform such actions, like running, jumping, escaping and so on… but there was absolutely no fear!

These dreams seem to somehow belong to a different person, and not to the abductee himself. So it would be the decerebrated copies, or, most likely, reprogrammed copies, to perform such war games. In other words, it seems that the military is in the process of creating an army made up of abductees’ copies if they were no longer needed by the aliens; so they would reach their goal: the military would use them to keep the New World Order: an army made of zombies to serve the most important Masonic lodges and the big families of tycoons.

What seems to happen is that, when backing up the memories between the copies and the originals, some fragments about these trainings would stay in the abductees’ Mind and, while dreaming, they would subconsciously be remembered.

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Now, after considering all of the above, we can take a look again to the whole chart given, and realize that now the whole picture is much clearer.

[AnthonyBacala]

So are the mind-controlling, loosh-collecting archons waiting for us on the other side of death, or are benevolent guides there to lead us on a path (which is what I read in hypnotherapy sessions conducted by Michael Newton in his book Journey of Souls)?

That's one of the most important questions... will post on that later...

Houman,

Having read Newton's work, and seeing others still trying to make connections with that material and the material throughout this thread, I was wondering if you were still going to post more on this. I'm not sure if you have done so already.

[Houman]

So are the mind-controlling, loosh-collecting archons waiting for us on the other side of death, or are benevolent guides there to lead us on a path (which is what I read in hypnotherapy sessions conducted by Michael Newton in his book Journey of Souls)?

That's one of the most important questions... will post on that later...

Houman,

Having read Newton's work, and seeing others still trying to make connections with that material and the material throughout this thread, I was wondering if you were still going to post more on this. I'm not sure if you have done so already.

Yes, I will post on this (not done so yet...)...

[AnthonyBacala]

Yes, I will post on this (not done so yet...)...

Thank you Houman, I know you've got much, much more left to prepare and present on this forum. I really appreciate your continued efforts.

[Houman]

from http://flashmentalsimulation.wordpress.com/2012/01/18/visualization-techniques-round-table-project-rtp/

VISUALIZATION TECHNIQUES: Round Table PROJECT (RTP)

From “ALIEN CICATRIX 2″

by Dr. Corrado Malanga, July 2005

Round Table PROJECT (RTP)

The idea of building a visualization technique that produces virtual images, but uses data coming both from the long term visual memory and the real reality, meaning from the archetypal world, seemed to be a good idea to work with; this idea is actually not new, since the official science already recognized it and called it “Psychodrama”: this is very similar to what I wanted to create.

Psychodrama consist in having some persons, who psychologically need attention, acting in certain and well defined roles coming from imaginary creativity.

Each person, starting in a certain moment while acting, puts his psyche in his character, and he recognizes himself: in this way the person gets to better know his own unconscious.

The act of the unconscious being recognized by the subconscious automatically transforms a schizophrenic person into a normal one.

What is the potential of a mentally created image? Is it possible to use such an image created by the Mind to solve real problems, such as abductions? That’s right: we are talking about real problems, not about fantasies. They are real, even if some UFO experts blether they are not during their ravings.

When creating a mental image one draws information from a memory made of things which were really seen, and then really stored; but it is also possible to draw information from a memory made of things which have been archetypically “always known”.

I need to point out again that one part of the brain works analogically (a reality which is totally virtual), but there’s also a different part operated by the Mind, which works in a purely propositional way, that is archetypical.

We need to immediately say that the mental image is stimulated, during this mental creation, by certain brain and willpower components: it is just like saying that the mental image partly comes from the right hemisphere, and partly from the left hemisphere of the brain.

So we ask the abductee to imagine a scene (a mental Psychodrama, virtually created through mental images), where he plays a journalist who is about to conduct a Round Table TV show.

The topic for the day is:

Me and the ALIENS!

We ask the abductee to imagine a stage in which she is a journalist who invites to the Round Table certain characters to discuss the subject.

The characters are:

his/her Soul.

his/her Spirit.

his/her Mind.

Plus All of the other characters willing to participate.



It’s possible to participate in any way possible: by phone, video, etc., and the abductee can conduct the interviews and the show in any way he/she prefers.

It’s just sufficient to ask the abductee to imagine the above scenario.

So, we are adjusting the Psychodrama techniques to the virtual visualization techniques in order to create a virtual Psychodrama.

What happens in reality? Usually the person gets comfortable, relaxes and, while keeping his eyes closed, he starts to imagine this scene. His brain immediately looks for the data according to the specified request and in the long term memory, and if she finds them, she expresses them using three-dimensional images and symbolic behaviors (analogical-computational Mind and propositional-archetypical Mind).

What one sees and experiences is not pure fantasy, but a play of reality, which is seen simultaneously through the right and left hemispheres’ “eyes”; one gets ahead of the real-life memories and directly goes to draw information from the long term memory.

The results are amazing: the persons doing this find out that they are abductees, and that they see unpredictable characters sitting at the Round Table, like big Grasshoppers (Insectoid aliens); big two-footed beings with a snake-like tail; beings dressed in blue, with females on their side; shining beings and different kind of beings that maybe are not really here and they just connect through the phone.

The Psychodrama becomes a showcase of the alien interferences, and it repeats to the letter all the data that can be easily double checked with the experiences described during the hypnotic sessions.

What does actually happen? Simply this: the person is gathering data from his unconscious memories and he pours them in his visible area, lightly filtered by the subconscious; they are built by the same part of the brain that builds the everyday images.

Through these images (visual anchors), there comes also feelings, kinesthetic perceptions and the rest.

There are persons who have never heard anything about aliens o or Six fingered beings, and they can perfectly visualize them sitting at the Round Table; and they can interact with them during the Psychodrama!

In other words, the brain’s ability to process three dimensional space-time data creates scenarios that seem real; in these scenarios the different characters are actually playing their own part and, at the end, they can be recognized by the abductee’s unconscious Mind.

It is interesting the fact that the data is directly drawn from the abductee’s Consciousness, as well as from the memories in the brain. We are actually dealing with information and knowledge that the person is not aware of knowing, but he/she knows them since it’s his/her Mind Consciousness that knows them.

The abductee’s Soul sees itself and the other characters in the mental Psychodrama in the way the Mind is able to translate them. The unconscious Mind does not see things as they are, but in the way it thinks they are, and this “way” depends on the unconscious Mind itself, which transforms the original archetypes for “feeling and perceiving” into images and phonemes. The only differences depend on the abductee’s vocabulary.

Everybody has his/her own vocabulary, depending on his/her knowledge of the language and on his/her experiences; so, somebody calls a certain alien “Saurian”, but other people can call it “Grass snake”, or just “Snake”, in a derogatory way.

During the mental Psychodrama anything can happen. There are moments in which the Soul stands up on her chair and strikes dead the “Grass snake”, or moments in which the Light being tries to convince the Soul that everything is under control and that it’s worth for her to keep on being parasitized. In short, everybody express his/her/its own identity. At the end of the game, the abductee asks what’s the meaning of it all, since they are not aware of the things processed by their own unconscious Mind: once explained to them, everything becomes forever clear.

We should not wrongly think that this Psychodrama is entirely made up, and I don’t think so at all: the subconscious Mind assigns the roles and these are perfectly performed. Nothing can be considered unreal in the visualization: the room used for the Round Table is a three-dimensional reconstruction for a room that was already seen somewhere, and also the characters will appear and behave in a way which is consistent with the archetypical perception of the abductee’s unconscious Mind from the time when he/she dealt with them.

If somebody had precise experiences, impressed in the long term memory, they will have the tendency to use them instead of making up some fantastic data. Hence the persons who are really abductees must take these test .

The persons who are not abductees can be easily recognized, since their unconscious Mind gives information that are not consistent (non repeatable) with the abduction phenomenon.

I haven’t taken into consideration people who are mentally labile, since they get to be excluded through the use of the TAV and of the handwriting test. I can confidently use this methodology since everything is now known about the abduction phenomenon.

These tests are not meant to acquire more information about alien interferences, but they are only meant to let the abductees become aware of their own situation.

After taking on one’s own the RT (Round Table) test and understanding what kind of parasites one has – for example, an AAM, a LUX and a Six fingered – one can use the visualization technique to perform the final step: eliminating the parasites. Let’s see how and why this technique can be very effective.

It all started by chance – and this is also explained in Alien Cicatrix - through a simple self-driven meditation that eliminated an alien parasite, the Six fingered. How could a simple visualization of an Act of Will transform itself in pure Will? It would be like saying: “if I imagine I can fly then would I actually fly”. So why even if I imagine that I fly, I don’t? Usually it is easier said than done; and so it is easier thought than done. But it seems it’s not really like that, if we take into consideration the relationship between wanting and achieving. If our being consists of four basic parts: Soul, Body, Mind and Spirit, and if they manifest themselves along four coordinate axis, which are Consciousness, Space, Time and Energy, and if only the first one is real while the other three are virtual (that is they can be modified by the first one), it is up to Consciousness to use an act of will that, in the form of an archetype, will create a variation on the other three axis. The act of will gives rise to an archetype, which is like a mathematical operator that can work on virtuality and modify it. For example: 3 + 2 = 5. The virtuality of number three and of number two are modified by the plus sign (the operator), which transforms them in a different virtuality, expressed by the number five. It really seems that certain techniques, like Transcendental Meditation (TM,) can make achieve virtuality transformation processes, as it is extensively documented by the literature present in the bibliography at the end of this work.

The Soul has a very strong Consciousness, which contains the will to be, and expresses archetypes which modify the virtual reality. Transcendental Meditation, or rather, that state which allows to correlate to one’s Soul, can alter virtual reality.

This change of reality, understood as an act of will, can be used to eliminate the alien parasites from the abductees’ body!

The simple game of visualizing the Round Table (RT) can unconsciously be transformed in a mental image which gathers data both from the analogical brain (the left hemisphere) and from the propositional brain (the right hemisphere).

The activation of the right hemisphere activates the unconscious Mind, and this produces the activation of the Soul. The Soul, urged in this way, uses a proper archetype to modificate the virtual reality, and so she eliminates the alien parasite.

In order to want is not sufficient to think, but it is necessary to live one’s thought as real, so that one interacts with one’s Soul.

If we analize this under a different point of view, I had proved that there is a possibility for reciprocating the mechanism through which the Soul affects the virtual universe.

In other words, I used to consider the Soul expressing an act of will which produces an archetype through her own Consciousness axis, which modifies the rotation along the Space, Time and Energy axis (see S.S.T., Super Strings Theory). This effect is real, physical, and it is perceived by the body as a “I am feeling like…”, often times like a simple vibration in a body part (solar plexus). And this is simply caused by a purely mechanical effect, subordinate (collateral) to the whole event.

Is it possible to activate an act of will starting from virtuality, instead of starting from the Consciousness’ reality? Yes indeed! Through visualizing mental images.

Mental images use the same portion of the brain which is used by the real ones: human Consciousness cannot distinguish them.

Through the use of mental images, which draw data from the long term memory – the memory that is full of data coming in the brain from the input stage – one can activate those processes which connect you to your Soul.

We basically produce images, which in turn produce symbols, which finally produce archetypes. The Soul speaks though archetypes, and so there we have a connection with the Soul, a connection which was probably lost million of years ago and which is now working again.

In order to get to this result, I first used deep hypnosis, then NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming, T.N.), but now it is possible to simply visualize, in the proper way, talking with the Soul and… you will talk with her!

Let’s show to the Soul the alien parasites during the Round Table visualization process described above and, if the Soul wants, she will immediately eliminate the parasites.

[Houman]

from http://flashmentalsimulation.wordpress.com/2012/01/18/the-simbad-technique-directions-for-use/

The SIMBAD Technique: Directions For Use

From “ALIEN CICATRIX 2″

by Dr. Corrado Malanga, July 2005

A PRACTICAL METHOD TO USE THE SIMBAD TECHNIQUE:

DIRECTIONS FOR USE

Before starting the actual exercise it can be useful practicing the visualization of a moving image with sounds. To this purpose I created a preliminary exercise, meant to verify one’s ability to identify and live in a virtual world. This exercise ask you to imagine a cube in a fast and complex movement, coupled with a background sound, like a music.

Everybody can imagine anything they want, but for clarity’s sake, I prepared a trivial, but rather complex example to explain what I mean (see the multimedia file attached, called Rotazionecubo – cube rotation, T.N.): this is just to give a hazy idea about what a human Mind is able to imagine.

Once you are able to imagine a cube rotating on itself with different colors and an appropriate background music, you can do the following exercise, which is at the core of the SIMBAD technique:

Stay comfortable and relax: close your eyes, after making sure nobody can disturb you, and imagine you are the chairman of a Round Table TV program. Imagine the TV study and the table where the different guests that you yourself invited will sit at. The subject for the Round Table will be: You and the aliens!

You will invite your Soul, your Mind and your Spirit. Then you will invite the aliens – and you will decide who and how many of them – will sit at the table and discuss the subject with you. There will be also the opportunity to live broadcast or telecast, in case somebody didn’t want to or couldn’t be in the studio. The guests will come in through the door as you call them, with their name or with a sign in case you don’t know their name; and you will have them sit where they want. Imagine the room, the microphones, the chairs. Take your time to look at the arrangement and at the different lights in the TV study.

When everybody is sitting down, have a quick look at the way you see everybody: how do they look like? how are they dressed? what do they think of each other and how do they look to you when observing them? Take your time during this first part, while you wait to be on air for this TV show. Observe each entity’s behavior. There might be empty chairs left, or you might be needing to add more chairs. Observe the seating arrangements and mentally take note of each guest position, since you will have to make a little scheme about this, and describe all the guests. When all of the guests will be present and you are on air, the show will start: you then immediately ask each guest to quickly introduce themselves.

You must always start with your Soul; then you can follow any order, but the Soul must always start each session of comments. Remember that YOU are the chairman, so everybody must listen to what YOU say: if you break off a conversation, they all need to respect that.

After everybody’s introduction, you can start asking your questions: you can ask as many question as you want, but the Soul must always start first when giving the answers.

The first question to ask her (to the Soul, T.N.) is always required:

Do you know all the guests in this Round Table? Do you know who they are and what they want? Then, after this required question, the debate starts, and it could also last for several episodes (so you won’t get too tired).

After this first question you will ask the different characters what they think about the alien issue and you will ask to each alien, when present, what are they doing there and what are their real motivations. Ask them if there’s somebody helping them; if they are friends or enemies to each other; when are they going to complete their work, etc.: the discussion is meant to ascertain why the aliens are here and what’s their relationship with your Soul, your Mind and your Spirit. You can use the help of virtual movies. Have a big screen come down and project the movies you need. For example, if your Soul doesn’t agree with some of the guests, show the movies about “what actually happened”, and then comment on them in front of all the guests, and have them comment them too. The movies were recorded by your brain and the visual data will come from it; they will look at your experiences, now showing on that big screen because they are filmed by a camera that was in the best place to see everything. Do not be afraid to make up things: your Mind has recorded everything about what you lived and experienced, and it very well knows which images to show to the guests at the Round Table.

At the end of the show, in order to reach a conclusion, ask to your Soul if she agrees. In case your Soul doesn’t agree, then ask her to put it right, for example through eliminating the issue. If she agrees to do that, then ask her to do it right then, while on air. Visualize without any hurry the scene with your Soul is taking care of this, and taking her time to do it, or make sure that she agrees to eliminate the problem, no matter how it goes, when she thinks it is right.

If the Soul decides to eliminate the problem created by the alien right away, then visualize this scene very well, and carefully look at how it looks like while she puts into practice her “will to do it”. Then you describe that scene writing a short story.

Take your emotions into consideration during the Round Table show, and give them free play. Carefully look in the eyes each one of the characters, as if you wanted to frame them with your camera while they interact with you.

It is important, at the end, and just like with any round table, that the guests are greeted, then the Round Table will be continued to a second episode, when the same or different guests will participate and update the situation.

At the end, make a drawing and a short report for the whole experience.

I need to point out here that this exercise was created and planned just for real abductees: the false abductees can still do it in order to make sure they are not part of this phenomenon.

This visualization method is also a self-assessment type of exercise.

CAUTION! Before starting asking the questions, you need to turn on a virtual alarm tool, that will go off when you are about to fall asleep during the show. If your Soul is present, you will entrust her the task of ringing a bell if there’s something, a will or something which does not belongs to you, and which tries to make you fall asleep or distract you in any way.

FURTHER SPECIFICATIONS

The goal of eliminating the parasites implies progressively eliminating both the physical alien interferences and the Six fingered raids from his own dimension. The LUX, once eliminated, cannot parasitize again the abductee, since his Soul never goes to sleep, and she always watches over her container and never gets distracted.

The physical abductions then start to decrease, since the aliens realize that the prerequisite which is necessary to make the copies, separate the Soul and use it to revitalize the aliens themselves, are not satisfied anymore. As a matter of fact, the abductee’s Soul and her body do not answer in the same way to the alien’s requests, whatever they are, since the Real Reality is superior to the Virtual Reality, which is just its creation.

The last abductions come down to egg implants and extractions of the fetus a few months later, but this also needs to stop since the abductee woman’s body is not able to tolerate such procedures (the fetus wouldn’t be mature enough to be taken).

What is left to eliminate are the severe military interferences, and they increase at this stage because the military is interested in the APM (Alien Passive Memories,) which are still copied in the abductees’ Mind.

I think that the only way to get rid of this kind of interference would be a civil war, but since I don’t think this is a plausible solution in the short term, there’s nothing else left other than confide into the Soul’s will to find a way to make the abductee shielded and unaffected by the military technologies: you can’t actually hope that the Soul would want to strike the military.

She could do it in the blink of an eye, but her job is not to destroy, since this is contrary to her ethics and programming.

The issue of eliminating the military will solve on its own, since they “will eliminate themselves on their own“, as one of the LUX alien memories once told me during an hypnotic session with an abductee.

I will definitely be able to improve this visualization technique in the future, through making it more and more effective, but I am offering now and for the first time in the world, as a conclusion of my work, a simple methodology to eliminate the problem I was studying.

One could basically say that my task is complete now, except for some more investigations I still need to carry on, and without considering the research I intend to work on, about the military interferences.

If I won’t be able to carry on with this last step, or if I won’t have the necessary time in order to adjust a better method to get rid of the parasites (possibly also instrumental), I hope that, in any case, I have been able to give well-grounded directions to all the abductees in order to help them getting rid of their trouble.

This work is also an admonishment to all the abductees, so that they can become more aware and save themselves on their own, without waiting for some other external savior, because this won’t be the case.

[Houman]

This video explains the S.I.M.B.A.D.
technique created by Prof. CORRADO MALANGA

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[Chester]

It has been hard enough to open up and I fear shutting down now may stop me from completing the story.


Chester: You should feel free to complete your story if you wish so. Whatever your decision is, I would suggest continuing working with someone with experience in working with people with anomalous trauma (such as Eve Lorgen or one of Dr Malanga's colleague/associate).

Houman

I am working with Evie Lorgen - had my first appointment last Wednesday and have my next one scheduled for early June... Thanks Houman, I will post more of the story.

[Houman]

follow up from part 1 posted at http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=464520&viewfull=1#post464520

parts 2,3,4,5 are now available with English subtitles (cc)

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[observer]

I first encountered the work of David Icke in the mid 90s. Since then I've read a good number of the books he has written, and listened to hundreds of hours of his interviews.

This thread is the evidential trail that validates nearly everything David has been reporting since I've known about David's work.

I felt it was important to honor David with a comment....

[Chester]

I first encountered the work of David Icke in the mid 90s. Since then I've read a good number of the books he has written, and listened to hundreds of hours of his interviews.

This thread is the evidential trail that validates nearly everything David has been reporting since I've known about David's work.

I felt it was important to honor David with a comment....

Was given a copy of the Biggest Secret back in 2002. Was devastating but I knew there was a great deal of truth in it. Spent this last 10 years deprogramming/awakening. Thank You David Icke.

[G.Deluca]

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the film about malanga research with spanish subs, i can't find the english version but there is an english trailer of the film so it will probably come later on

[Jean-Luc]

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[Jean-Luc]

THE TIME IS NOW
I retired from the "UFO" circus a number of years ago. The time was not right to release this information to the public. I am releasing it now because I believe people are better prepared for this information due to the internet and alternative media. I've also noticed that some forums on the internet are beginning to address topics that few people would even consider in the mid-90s when I first released this information--Topics like past life ET contacts, out of body abductions and in-between lives implants.

Of course, abduction researchers like Dr. Karla Turner, Barbara Bartholic, et al, were reporting similar phenomena in the 1990s. Also, other unrelated research has validated various aspects of my research and experiences, e.g., Zecharia Sitchin's books, William Bramley (GODS OF EDEN), Dr. Edith Fiore (ENCOUNTERS), underground base engineer/abductee Phil Schneider, etc.

The Bilderbergers and other elitists appear to be making their final moves at full throttle to implement 1984-style martial law--even though they may not call it that--and a cashless society. With elitist politicians advocating control over the internet and alternative media, I feel a sense of urgency to give this information to others who will save this information to computer disk and paper in the event of future censorship.

To the best of my knowledge much of the information on this website is not available in any other book or website. Please forward the URL to this website http://www.MatrixRevealed (http://web.archive.org/web/20110208115750/http://www.matrixrevealed/) to all your friends. I need all the help I can get to get the word out and I'm not sure how much time we've got left. Also, please print out the pages to my books from this website and add them to your library. It's free.

Readers should start with the Glossary, Introduction and then Chapter One of THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET (http://www.lunahelia.com/docs/cash.zip) (Book One) and read all the subsequent chapters in their proper order to connect the dots. The first chapters may seem like ET 101 to those who are familiar with ET abductions. Therefore, experienced abduction researchers may want to skim or skip through familiar territory. The material quickly advances into subject matter that few books cover. The Extra-Terrestrial Conspiracy comes full circle in Chapter 9 of the THE EYE OF RA (http://www.lunahelia.com/docs/cash2.zip) where the final dots are connected.

The information on this website is given free of charge. No one may sell or profit from this information. However, people are welcome to print out the pages of my books and save all the pages to disk as long as they are not sold for a profit or altered.

Here is a link to download Book One, THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET: [/URL][URL="http://web.archive.org/web/20100929200655/http:/lunahelia.com/docs/cash.zip"]http://lunahelia.com/docs/cash.zip (http://web.archive.org/web/20100929200655/http:/lunahelia.com/docs/cash.zip)

Here is a link to download Book Two, THE EYE OF RA: http://lunahelia.com/docs/cash2.zip (http://web.archive.org/web/20100929200655/http:/lunahelia.com/docs/cash2.zip)

This is my gift to humankind. Please keep it free and unaltered.

Yours in the Awakening,
Truman L. Cash

I've read both books (a good portion of them) over the week-end and I can say it's a long time I hadn't read anything more fascinating and intriguing. Worth the many long hours spent reading.

I among other things appreciated the many words of caution/reservation about channeled material and the whole Pleiadian stuff. Also about the so called ETC's described as the masters of deception, etc.

Of course many questions arise and I find many pieces hard to swallow, so I will try to get some feedback from author Truman Cash who is apparently answering questions on David Icke's forum
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060736532&postcount=268 (April 2012)
http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060802738&postcount=310 (May 2012)

So far my acquaintance with the subject was mostly limited to the Project Camelot 2007 interview of Jim Sparks, which at the time I had found both convincing to a certain level and dubious given the overall "Save the Planet" message. An impression now reinforced by the reading of Truman Cash's books where the dark side of the abduction programs are clearly layed out.

[AnthonyBacala]

“I want people to know the truth,” he replied. “I want people to know just how deceptive their space brothers really are. I want them to know that the great and wonderful aliens are really like demons who aren’t supernatural at all, but are physical like we are-only they have the ability to hide behind superior technology. I want people to stop being so gullible like I was, and to start asking the right questions. We can’t settle for anything less than the truth, from our government and from the so-called aliens themselves.

“It bothers me deeply, Barb, to think about all the inno- cent victims, especially the children, that confront the deceit- ful force every day. Just look at all the literature and informa- tion that is put out by people who truly believe that this is a good and wonderful thing for earth and the human race. I see now how easy it is for them to deceive us. All they have to do is glitter something pretty in front of us and we buy it.

“I suppose that we want so badly for some help from any- where to assist us in cleaning up the mess on this planet, that when they bait us with their propaganda, we don’t bother to ask how, where, and when, we just start yelling, ‘Come on down!’ If there are any positive and good aliens trying to help us, then I think they will understand when I say, show me your undeniable proof of good intentions first, and then I might invite you in for tea. Until then, peddle your lies in some other galaxy, not mine and Grandy’s.”

Barbara chuckled as Ted continued.

“I remember Grandy as a strong country lady who believed very much in truth and honesty. I know she always reprimanded me if I told a fib. And I truly believe that if she were here, she would support me in telling the truth. I believe she would agree that we must swallow our pride and tell the truth, because silence will not stop the treachery. It will only enable it to continue.”

He walked Barbara to her car, thanking her again for the comfort, strength, and support she had brought him through a time of enormous turmoil.

“Let me know when you want to come back to see me for more regression work,” she said.

“Yes, I know this work is only just beginning,” Ted replied. “And it’s not a matter of just my own destiny any more, knowing that my friends and many others have had experiences, too. The truth is, the alien agenda has conse- quences for everyone. We know so little. It’s like we’re grop- ing in the dark, and things just can’t go on like this.”

“It would take great courage, though,” Barbara reminded him, “to get beyond the fear and penetrate all the illusions that mask the aliens’ ultimate intentions.”

“And even greater courage to stand up before a disbeliev- ing world and reveal the knowledge that I’ve endured so much to gain,” Ted added. “You know, the aliens, or spirits or whatever they were, kept telling me to write a book, to call it ‘The Light Worker,’ and I think that’s what I should do. Only I can’t call it by that title and play into their hands pro- moting their goodness and kindness. I’ve got to call it some- thing else, something that will be closer to the truth as I see it.”

“I’m sure you’ll come up with the right title,” Barbara said, taking her leave.

Ted waited outside for one last wave as she drove away. With Barbara’s help, he at least had a way to learn more. There were many past events that he now questioned and wanted to explore: his relationship with Maya, the Aunt Jemima apparition and the ghost of Miss Flowers, Volmo’s visits, the visions of global destruction, the night of fog, the missing time, and the desert underground facility where humans were corralled like cattle. He was healing now, and before long he would be ready for the next regression and whatever revelations it might bring. With a last glance across at the field where the UFO had landed, Ted’s resolution strengthened.

“I will have my life back,” he vowed silently to his abduc- tors. “I will dig so deeply into my past that every single thing you’ve ever done to me will be revealed. When I make my story public, when I tell the world the truth about your alien agenda, only then will I be fulfilling the real role of a Light Worker. And when I help to strip away the masquerade of the angels, working with others to find the truth, maybe it will, finally, set us free.

Just finished Masquerade of Angels by Karla Turner, about the Ted Rice case, and I have truly had my mind blown! I highly recommend this book to anyone following this thread.

This is some of my recent artwork...inspired by the notion that the truth shall set us free.

[Daughter of Time]

I watched the Corrado Malanga tapes and since I speak Italian fluently I was able to understand everything he said. Many of the things he says are widely known by the contributors of this thread. In a nutshell:

The small, thin aliens with big heads that most people are familiar with are the servants. They carry out orders from superiors. The little beings have physical bodies which are not very strong therefore they carry tazer like objects in case one of the abductees is aware of the abduction and tries to get away.

The superiors are very tall, the female around 7 feet and the males around 8 feet. They both have long, orangey hair and skin. It's a patriarcal system as the males give the commands and the females stand by and watch. When an abductee asks them what their names are they reply with a mythical god/dess name, Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Sumerian, etc.,

The high commanding officers are taller and larger than the others, their bodies are dark and they have a long, powerful tail and horns and red or yellow eyes, very similar to what is known to most of us as the devil.

Others seem to be part of some kind of military formation and their uniforms are almost idential to nazi uniforms.

Others look like giant insects, I imagine similar to the ones in "Men in Black"

Ultimately, the four videos I have watched of Malanga's describe how these aliens look, but almost nothing about what they do to the abductees.

I imagine there must be other Malaga videos out there. If I find them and they describe different alien actitivities from the above descriptions, I will translate/paraphrase his words here.

[Midnight]

So are the mind-controlling, loosh-collecting archons waiting for us on the other side of death, or are benevolent guides there to lead us on a path (which is what I read in hypnotherapy sessions conducted by Michael Newton in his book Journey of Souls)?

That's one of the most important questions... will post on that later...

Houman,

Having read Newton's work, and seeing others still trying to make connections with that material and the material throughout this thread, I was wondering if you were still going to post more on this. I'm not sure if you have done so already.Yes, I am very interested in figuring out how to reconcile Newton's description of a benevolent astral plane and an ultimately benevolent reincarnation system with the parasitical archon loosh collectors scenario.

But I am also very interested in gaining knowledge as to what percentage of the human population are being interfered with by the reptilian-grey (archon?) group. I seem to remember reading John Lear saying we were all abducted I believe it was 3 times. I presume some "insider" told him that.

So is it just the "chosen ones" that have a long history of abductions that are being interfered with by these nasty ets? Do some of us luckily get totally ignored by them? And why do I think this unlikely?

[AnthonyBacala]

Not sure if this will help all of those curious about Newton's work, but I just found this. Houman, what do you think about this material?


Destiny of Souls

by Michael Newton

67 people recall their life between lives, their time in what they believe to be 'God's heaven'. 'Heaven' is an apparent mirror-image of life on Earth with its schools, groups, places of worship, Elders to be subservient to etc. We discover the process of karma and reincarnation that is imposed upon these souls by the (Astral) Elders through the process of regressive hypnotherapy. Recommended with caution. As I have written in my articles, I believe Newton's and Modi's books are excellent revelations about how the Archons (Astral Lords) control humanity - though not written that way - by manipulating us through 'programmed' lost soul attachments (often incorrectly perceived to be Spirit Guides through our many structured beliefs). For further information please read Shopping For Spirit part 7, and 8 & 9 in particular - see articles page.

Part 7 16436

The Assemblage Point (Sacred Heart), Discarnate Spirits, Lost Souls and how the Illusion manifests in the Afterlife

How and why the Assemblage Point in humans has become blocked or locked at the rear of the heart centre.

Lost Souls - what are they, and from where do they originate? What are discarnate spirits and 'Spirit Guides' psychics talk about, and how do these 'spirits' and lost souls affect our consciousness in this physical reality?

Does, what we read about 'lost souls' and the Spirit World in many books today, have any bearing on the truth, or is it all a part of the 'illusion' yet again, to prepare us and condition us into believing what to expect when we depart the physical body? What exactly happens to our 'Soul' in the afterlife, and what does this mean for us in this physical reality? Just how can we avoid the illusory afterlife?

How the human Soul HAS DEVOLVED over thousands of years contrary to popular belief, the true origins of the Baptism of the Soul and how we can resurrect our Soul whilst we are in the physical body. Plus the True Origins of Reiki, which explains why Western Reiki IS part of the illusory reality we have created, as we discussed in Parts 1 '&' 2. This information may come as a shock to many Reiki Masters living in their ego, but will come as a welcome relief to those who are genuinely working through their heart centre for the love of all things.

Simple solutions on how we can once again become the Immortal Man our ancestors talked about, and how we can ALL, each and every one of us, recover our Christ Consciousness - the reflected purity of the Virginal Spirit, the Light - in this physical reality. Origins of the Reptilian Bloodline theory, Alien Thought Forms + A whole lot more.

Part 8 16437

A very important article explaining reincarnation, where it came from and what, or who, it applies to, and most importantly WHY. Plus, alien abduction experiences explained simply, and how 'lost souls' and 'thought-forms' from the Archons Astral Reality (illusory afterlife) that attach to our body, or 'meld' with our soul/consciousness are, are responsible for many of our physical illnesses and how these attachments can and do affect and direct our consciousness/soul and belief systems. Just whose past life are we REALLY experiencing?

Part 9 16438

Probably the most important article in this series of writings. Explains exactly how we humans are being controlled by our own creation through our belief systems, plus a whole lot more too.

[mountain_jim]

Having read Newton's Journey of Souls and Destiny of Souls, I recall that during these regressions Newton indicates another party, a guardian or guide if I recall, who prevents certain areas of inquiry or the allowance of certain answers - thus steering and perhaps controlling the information revealed.

I just found a pdf online of Destiny Of Souls, but quick searches have not turned up what I am looking for to refresh my memory.

http://arbid.co.uk/views/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/DestinyofSouls.pdf

[AnthonyBacala]

Having read Newton's Journey of Souls and Destiny of Souls, I recall that during these regressions Newton indicates another party, a guardian or guide if I recall, who prevents certain areas of inquiry or the allowance of certain answers - thus steering and perhaps controlling the information revealed.

I just found a pdf online of Destiny Of Souls, but quick searches have not turned up what I am looking for to refresh my memory.

http://arbid.co.uk/views/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/DestinyofSouls.pdf

After reading Masquerade of Angels, I believe a possibility could be that, as you have suggested, a guide(s) could have controlled the information provided. Also, it is a possibility that the information presented in the books could simply be screen memories, hiding the true nature of the individual's experience. What if Newton uncovered the truth behind the screen memories of some of his clients and chose to withhold such data, as it would clash with the "feel-good" mentality of his work? I'm not saying this is what took place, just playing detective.

Here is Journey of Souls pdf for further review.

[mountain_jim]

Having read Newton's Journey of Souls and Destiny of Souls, I recall that during these regressions Newton indicates another party, a guardian or guide if I recall, who prevents certain areas of inquiry or the allowance of certain answers - thus steering and perhaps controlling the information revealed.

I just found a pdf online of Destiny Of Souls, but quick searches have not turned up what I am looking for to refresh my memory.

http://arbid.co.uk/views/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/DestinyofSouls.pdf

After reading Masquerade of Angels, I believe a possibility could be that, as you have suggested, a guide(s) could have controlled the information provided. Also, it is a possibility that the information presented in the books could simply be screen memories, hiding the true nature of the individual's experience. What if Newton uncovered the truth behind the screen memories of some of his clients and chose to withhold such data, as it would clash with the "feel-good" mentality of his work? I'm not saying this is what took place, just playing detective.

Here is Journey of Souls pdf for further review.

Thanks for link. In this passage, Newton both indicates a client's guide blocking communication and states his own guide is directing him in these sessions. So the issue of whether these guides are truly acting in our best interest or not is a reasonable question to consider.

edit: Yes, hard to reconcile Newton's well-organized and positively structured world-view of the 'spirit world' between incarnations with multi-life abduction testimonies (of the Chosen Ones) in this thread.



The integration of a subject with their guide is a means of eliciting assistance from
these higher entities and bringing problems into sharper focus. I sometimes sense
even my own guide is directing me in these sessions.
I am cautious about summoning up guides without good cause. Facilitating
communication directly with a client's guide always has an uncertain outcome. If
my intrusion is clumsy or unnecessary, guides will block a subject's response by
silence or use metaphoric language which is obscure.
I have had guides speak through a subject's vocal chords in raspy tones which are so
discordant I can hardly understand the responses to questions. When subjects talk
for their guides, rather than guides speaking for themselves through the subject,
usually the cadence of speech is not as broken. In this case, Clodees comes through
Hester-Ross easily and allows me some latitude in working with his client.


and concerning guides:



8
Our Guides
I HAVE never worked with a subject in trance who did not have a personal guide.
Some guides are more in evidence than others during hypnosis sessions. It is my
custom to ask subjects if they see feel a discarnate presence in the room. If they do,
this third party is usually a protective guide. Often, a client will sense the presence
of a discarnate figure before visualizing a face or hearing a voice. People who
meditate a great deal are naturally more familiar with these visions than someone
who never called upon his or her guide.
The recognition of these spiritual teachers brings people into the company of a
warm, loving creative power. Through our guides, we become more acutely aware
of the continuity of life and our identity as a soul. Guides are figures of grace in our
existence because they are part of the fulfillment of our destiny.
Guides are complex entities, especially when they are master guides. The awareness
level of the soul determines to some extent the degree of advancement of the guide
assigned to them. In fact, the maturity of a particular guide also has a bearing on
whether these teachers have only one student or many under their direction. Guides
at the senior level of ability and above usually work with an entire group of souls in
the spirit world and on earth. These guides have other entities who assist them.
From what I can see, every soul group usually has one or more rather new teachers
in training. As a result, some people may have more than one guide helping them.
The personal names my clients attach to their guides range from ordinary,
whimsical, or quaint-sounding words, to the bizarre. Frequently, these names can be
traced back to a specific past life a teacher spent with a student. Some clients are
unable to verbalize their guide's name because the sound cannot be duplicated, even
when they see them clearly while under hypnosis. I tell these people it is much more
important that they under stand the purpose of why certain guides are assigned to
them, rather than possessing their names. A subject may simply use a general
designation for their guide such as: director, advisor, instructor, or just "my
friend."
One has to be careful how the word friend is interpreted. Usually, when a person in
trance talks about a spiritual friend, they are referring to a soul-mate or peer group
associate rather than a guide. Entities who are our friends exist on levels not much
higher or lower than ourselves. These friends are able to offer mental
encouragement from the spirit world while we are on Earth, and they can be with us
as incarnated human companions while we walk the roads of life.
One of the most important aspects of my therapeutic work with clients is assisting
them, on a conscious level, with appreciating the role their guides play in life. These
teacher entities edify all of us with their skillful instruction techniques. Ideas we
claim as our own may be generated by a concerned guide. Guides also comfort us
during the trying periods in our lives, especially when we are children in need of
solace. I remember a charming remark made by a subject after I asked when she
began seeing her guide in this life. "Oh, when I was daydreaming," she said. "I
remember my guide was with me on my first day of school when I was really scared.
She sat on top of my desk to keep me company and then showed me the way to the
bathroom when I was too afraid to ask the teacher."

[AnthonyBacala]

Yes, hard to reconcile Newton's well-organized-and-positively structured world-view of the 'spirit world' between incarnations with multi-life abduction testimonies (of the Chosen Ones) in this thread.

Mountain Jim, I agree. As much as I was originally affected in a positive way upon reading Newton's work, this thread has forced me to go back and reanalyze every facet of information I have taken in over the years...realizing more of it than not was nothing more than false-positives and wishful thinking, and in some cases, complete and utter BS.

But boy does that New Age material feel so good! Ha, now I see why so many(including myself for quite a while) are duped. We would rather have someone save us than accept the fact that there are things in our world as negative as the material discussed on this forum. But at the end of the day, I would rather swallow the truth, stand my ground, and make plans to change this world...much more than wishfully waiting for someone to save me who really doesn't have my best interest at hand.

Let's keep looking further into this Newton work. Discernment is key!

[Daughter of Time]

Malanca's film, posted by G. DeLuca above, is is a very good film. I'm sure everyone following this thread would like to watch it if they could understand Italian or Spanish. I am fluent in both and I wish I could translate it for you, but since I can't, I will give you a brief synopsis.

Saturnia is the young abductee. She then becomes possessed by the abductor. They think she's schizophrenic. Eventually the abductor whose name is Hexabor, takes her over completely.

Dr. Davide has been hypnotizing her. Under hypnosis Hexabor reveals some information, namely:

His kind don't like Reptilians because Reptilians are stupid since their only purpose is to feed. Hexabor's kind are intelligent because their prime purpose for abduction is mind control. Women are sexually assaulted and implanted. In men, they insert microchips in their heads in order to monitor their activities. They normally abduct young people with high potential which they use for themselves until the host is all used up.

Hexabor informs Davide that there are 13 alien races on earth. They will start a major war and take over the planet. He gives hints that all the major groups that control the planet now are alien races.

Saturnia is taken to the best exhorcist who is utterly impotent in this case as possessions are not demonic but alien.

Davide believes that aliens have no souls which explains why they abduct and possess people with highly developed souls because we have something they lack and want.

Through research Davide finds that it's all in the frequencies. -6.66 herz is the frequency which imprisons the soul. 666 herz is the frequency that liberates it.

Saturnia, who is hosting Hexabor has escaped her confinement and has wondered amongst a group of young people. David finds her and organizes a party of lights and sounds for them to dance and party to. The sound is then lowered to -6.66 herz. This is intolerable for Hexabor because there is nothing to gain at this level because his host has nothing to give at this level. Hexabor then leaves his host. Saturnia is re-united with her parents who are, unfortunately, alien hybrids.

In Davide's final speech to his audience, he tells them that the secret is in the frequency and by manipulating frequencies is how the human race will survive.

[AnthonyBacala]

From Michael Newton's Destiny of Souls:

When a soul joins with a new baby, 1 can be fairly sure the partnership will address both the soul's shortcomings and a body-mind who needs this particular soul. The planners choose bodies for us which are intended to combine our character defects with certain body tempera- ments to produce specific personality combinations. From clients who are medical doctors and physiologists, I have been given brief anatomical glimpses about souls entering the developing brain of a fetus. Case 66 is an example. Posthypnotic suggestions have enabled subjects in these professions to sketch out simplified diagrams of what they were trying to say about these linkages while under hypnosis. This has helped my understanding.

Case 66
Dr. N: I would like to know if the initial transition into the fetus is always about the same for you?
S: No, it is not. Even though I might have had x-ray vision into the mind of the child during life selection, my entry can still be ragged.
Dr. N: Give me your most recent example of a difficult entry.
S: Three lives ago, 1 joined with a very stiff, unreceptive brain. It felt my presence was invasive. This was unusual because most of my host bodies accept my presence. I'm ordinarily considered to be a new roommate.
Dr. N: Are you saying this particular host body felt you were an alien
presence that it should reject?
S: No, it was a dull mind of dense energy pockets. My arrival was an intrusion on its lack of mental activity ... there was ... isolation
between compartments of the brain ... creating resistance to ...
communication. Lethargic minds require more effort on my part. They resist change.
Dr. N: Change of what?
S: Of my being in its space, requiring some reaction to deal with this fact. I caused this mind to think and it was not a curious mind. I began pushing buttons and found it did not want to be summoned by me.
Dr. N: What did you expect?
S: From my review in the sphere (the Ring), I saw the end result of an adult mind but I didn't see all the difficulties with the baby's mind ... when it was new.
Dr. N: I see, and you are saying this mind considered your intrusion as a threat?
S: No, only a nuisance. Eventually, I was accepted and the child and I adapted to each other.
Dr. N: Let's go back to your statement about pushing buttons. Please explain to me what this means to you with a standard entry into the fetus of your choice?
S: When I enter a developing brain 1 am accustomed to joining around the fourth month—our guides give us some latitude here—but I never enter after the sixth month. When I enter the womb of the mother I create a red light of tight energy and direct it up and down the spinal column of the baby—following a network of neurons to the brain.
Dr. N: Why do you do that?
S: This tells me about the efficiency of thought transmission—the sensory relays ...
Dr. N: Then, what do you do?
S: Play my red light around the dura mater—the outer layer of the brain ... gently ...
Dr. N: Why red light?
S: This allows me to be ... especially sensitive to the physical feelings of this new person. I meld my energy warmth to the gray-blues of brain matter. Before I get there, the brain is simply gray. What I am doing is turning on the lights in a dark room with a tree in the middle.
Dr. N: You lost me. Explain about the tree.
S: (intensely) The tree is the stem. I park myself between the two hemispheres of the brain to get a ringside seat as to how this system will function. Then I move around the branches of the tree to
investigate the circuitry. I want to know how dense the energy is in the fibers around the wheel of the cerebral cortex folding around the thalamus ... I want to learn how this brain thinks and senses things.
Dr. N: How important is energy density or the lack of it in the brain?
S: A mind that has excessive density in certain areas means there are blockages which inhibit the bridges between efficient neuron activity. I want to make some adjustments in these road blocks with my energy if I can—you know—while the brain is still forming.
Dr. N: You can make a difference in how the brain develops?
S: (laughs at me) Of course! Did you think souls are passengers on a train? I stimulate these areas ever so slightly.
Dr. N: (deliberately obtuse) Well, 1 thought you and the baby ... are both in miniature by the way you exhibit intelligence in the beginning.
S: (laughs) Not until birth.
Dr. N: Are you saying that you can improve brain wave function with all (hese activities you have described?
S: That is our expectation. The whole idea is matching your vibra- tional levels and capabilities with that of the natural rhythms of the child's brain waves—their electrical flow, (with exuberance) I think my host bodies are grateful for my assistance in improving the speed of thought over bridges, (stops and then adds) Maybe this is wishful thinking.
Dr. N: What do you see in the future for the brain with continued evolution and the influence of souls as a stimulus?
S: Mental telepathy.

[tonius]

Ultimately, the four videos I have watched of Malanga's describe how these aliens look, but almost nothing about what they do to the abductees.
I imagine there must be other Malaga videos out there. If I find them and they describe different alien actitivities from the above descriptions, I will translate/paraphrase his words here.

Daughter of Time thanks for your contibution, i would like to explain further some of the work of this man. I will do it with my words,from what i have understood from him ,after having seen almost every video thats out there about his work. What is interesting is that malanga is not an abductee himself, and this fact in combination with his scientific aproach is an advantage, from the ''being more'' objective point of view. He is a professsor of chemistry in the university of Pisa, he has also published works in his area, many years ago he was part of the ''classic'' ufo studing community, the same like many in other countries, amatuers who study photos all their life without going further. He saw that something was wrong in their aproach, and things seemed to go much deeper. He got away and begin his own research.

There is a great combination of scientific mind, curiosity,courage, humility in this man, thats why from what i have learned from many sources ,like avalon, other reserches i still consider his work one of the most complete and most ''scientific'' as it can go. With scientific i dont mean the classical way, its more in the sense of a great tool if used the right way, with the only purpose being : discovering the truth in whatever form it comes. He had to learn hypnosis, and later use the nlp concepts adapted to his needs to ''communicate'' with what is deep in each of us,and its not so easy. In their sessions with hundreds of abductees all over italy, he (and his assistants) began noticing the same patern everywhere, with little changing deatils ( its understandable that when you go into the subconcious af a person whose memory has also been erased from alien technology, to have slightly different interpretations, even two persons fully awake see the same thing as different based on their interpretation of it. But the things that happened to these people during abductions were the same in core, and after so many sessions things began to be clearer.

Its interesting when he says : Its not about what you and me want or not to belive, its about the fact that something big is going here under our noses and few are willing to see what it is.

I find his work interesting because i was always interested on the bigger picture, for what is at the top of the pyramide, as far as we can see of it. What is the main result of his work , if it could be told in one sentence? : They are interested esclusivly in what we call Soul, Soul energy, that connection we have with the source of all. Everything else they do, the physical effects ,the studies of our bodies etc... are just a result of their main purpose. As now its clear, some of these beings are not physical at all, and even if the ''reptilians'' seem to at the top some of these pyramid, the pyramid seems to go further up. Its like the less you see or can understand of these beings the more dangerous ( for us ) they are, as the now famous ''ra'' seems to be. But this comes out from many other sources too.

Returning to what happens to the abductess in this process , they all talk about the same things, they see themself in kind of cylindrical conteiners and frequently nearby there is usually an alien being ,in another conteainer, usually reptilian form where they test their latest advancments in soul energy transfer, like we were batteries to them, batteries for their survival and also for their pleasure, when we say we are ''food'' to them seems literally true, although their foood has less to do with physical matter. Sometimes the abductees see a copy of them in the other cylinder, this is in the cases when more work has to be done so they have to send someone ''down'' not to arise suspicion, and these are very good copies , with the abducties memories and everything exept the soul part. Only a close person may notice the ''coldness' in the copy, but without this knowlegde its difficult to understand whats happening. What Malanga does to help abductees in this process is to connect to their soul, and make it aware of whats happening, how this beings are taking advantage of her container ( the physical body and other parts of our rapresentation in this reality) and once the soul understands whats happening there is no alien that can stand in the way.

I want to add some words of mine, my take on this :
When malanga talks about these aliens as a dying race ,with no soul connection trying desperatly to find a way to survive , at least the lower parts of this pyramid, i interpret the ''dying'' part as a price to pay for not willing to go further in the spiritual evolution, the road to the source of all, this in the bigger picture, if you try for to long to stick to a certain pradatory way of existing you are missing the point, that phase was ment to make you understand you what you really are , and ''who'' started the process shurely had a backup plan in case any ''part'' of the consciousness took this wrong direction, wrong because they know more than we do what its all about, they just like too much existing for eternity in this way. They dont accept they are part of a bigger project, like a drug addict ( their drug is negativity, thats what they are) they pretend to have the benefits of the drug while expecting to have the life span other people do. This is an analogy, as it seems, its like whent a part of our body isn't used for a long time, or not needed anymore ceasses to be alive. In this analogy the body being ''all there is''.

Having advanced technolgy doesn't mean anything what we talk about consciousness, as it itself is just an illusion, a tool that symbolicly rappresents what to that ''part'' of counsciosness is ''allowed'' to do, manifest at a certain point of its spiritual evolution, what counts is the intention,particular to each part of consciousness, in our case this group of alien races are a part of consciousness ( with part i mean a certain rapresentation of it through their intentions). No one really dies, but for them going on in the spiritual evolution is not an option, its like dying, they had all the ''time'' to ''get'' it , thats why their technology is so advanced but their spiritual understanding is not. They are addicted to the game they created (as they like us are a manifastitation of consciousness), and you cant pretend living a healthy life going against your body , snifing drugs all day (analogy).

As nothing really dies , the part that started all this game knows this ( call it god, source... doesnt matter ) so ,like in a chess game it knows the game cant go on if any piece ''refuses'' to follow the rules, and if for the piece living the game , means dying, the end of it, too much addicted to that chesboard, than of course it will do anything to stay on it, even praying on other pieces it still belives there is a way to stay more. Peices must leave for the game to go on, and all the frustration of a piece leaving is that it sees itself just a separate entity, with its unique form, forgetting its just a creation of the two players for the sake of playing, in fact it forgets its the player himself as it was the intetion of the player moving it, ''using'' it, that gave a sense to its existence to begin with. Being in the chesboard or not doesnt matter at all if there is no players moving it with an intetion, and in this anlogy what we call ''SOUL'' is the presence of this intetion, otherwise its are just a piece of wood or plastic without a purpose. And these alien beings have lost the support of the ''players'' who created them, there is no intention anymore in their movement, they are just ''fighting'' with other pieces , changing the nature of the game they wre creted for campletely,and thats whats ment by : they need our soul energy, it means they lost the support of their creator, there is no more intention behind their movements, they are ''dead' just like chess pieces without anyone playing are usless, just a decoration.

Thats how its explained how its possible that apperantly ''less evolved'' beings like us have something this ''more evolved'' beings would die for, they are just better shaped , looking chesboard pieces, they had all the time to perfect their outer look, their appereance ( analogy for their technological advancement) but they know that it doesnt matter until they are part of a real chess game with real players, and thts what we have ,''reason to be'', we are the ney players. And they will do anything to have some of this energy, this intention coming from the source, and this source doesnt care what you look like, what is worth is your moves, moves that from this alien group (alien to us) have become boring a long time ago, time for them to leave .

I know i got far but for me these is the most important part , understanding what makes us so special to them, at the point where they abduct us, direct our lives through their hybrids and human pupets, and hide us fro the rest of the ''chesboard''. Once understood this, one can go further srtuding the implications ,the effects of this, what we talk about every day, but discussing all day without understanding better the reasons of whats happening is not the way. I am aware that explaining things with words is tough, and they just merely rapresent how things realy look ''out there'' , but i trust ,like i mentioned above that what counts is our Intention to really search the truth, as far as we can, and as no intention gets wasted , eventually will come the moment we will see for what it really is, what we have so much discussed about and tried to figure out with our limited means at the moment. Its like when has has never seen the sea,been there, you can waste all life reding about it, discussing infinitely with others that have not seen it, but it takes just one minute of feeling the waves tickling your foots to have all your questions answered, all that notions, that chaos in your head, speculatins abot these beautiful part of this physical reality disappear, now you really know.

There is much of Malanga's work to talk about ,but for this post i think is enough.He has my full appreciation for what he has done, like may other sincere researchers, he has trully helped us all, not only the people who no more get abducted but even others ,to understand better that the reality we think we are part of is bigger than we imagined, imagine if what he has done alone, was done also by other so called ''scientists'', pseudo intellectuals, if this desire to search the truth became our collective intention, what a different reality we would have here.

[AnthonyBacala]

From the following case presented in Destiny of Souls:


Certainly, I have had younger souls who appear to be more inactive after body entry than case 66. This is a far sight better than agitating the child by ineptness from overzealous, inexperienced souls. The average soul probes their new host for information but in a way that has been described as "tickling the child to give it pleasure." Essentially, this is an important time for integration between body and soul with the mother also mentally entering into this process of getting acquainted. By no means is the seat of the soul limited to the brain. Soul energy radiates throughout the whole body of the child.
Case 66 is a medical doctor. My next case comes from a non-med- ically oriented client about the union of two entities to form one whole as a new life begins. Each soul has its own preferences about when and how they wish to enter the fetus. The following case gives us an indica- tion of the procedures used by a very considerate, evolved soul.
Case 67
Dr. N: Tell me what it is like to enter the mind of a baby and when you usually enter.
S: In the beginning I think of it as a betrothal. I entered my current body in the eighth month. I prefer to enter on the late side when the brain is larger so I have more to work with during the coupling.
Dr. N: Isn't there a downside to entering late? I mean, you are then dealing with a more independent individual.
S: Some of my friends feel that way, I don't. I want to be able to talk with the child when there is more mutual awareness.
Dr. N: (being dense to elicit a response) Talk—talk to a fetus—what are you saying ...?
S: (laughs at me) Of course we interact with the child. Dr. N: Take me through this slowly. Who says what first?
S: The child may say, "Who are you?" I answer, "A friend who has come to play and be a part of you."
Dr. N: (with deliberate provocation) Isn't that deceitful? You haven't come to play. You have come to occupy this mind.
S: Oh, please! Who have you been talking to? This mind and my soul were created to be together. Do you think I am some sort of foreign intruder on Earth? I have joined with babies who welcomed me as if I were expected.
Dr. N: There are souls who have had a different experience.
S: Look, I know souls who are clumsy. They go in like bulls in a china shop with their over-eagerness to get started with an agenda. Too much frontal energy all at once sets up resistance.
Dr. N: In your current lifetime, was the child at all anxious about your entry?
S: No, they don't know enough yet to be anxious. 1 begin by caressing the brain. I am able to immediately project warm thoughts of love and companionship. Most of the babies just accept me as being part of themselves. A few hold back—like my current body.
Dr. N: Oh, really? What was unusual about this fetus?
S: It wasn't a big deal. Its thoughts were, "Now that you are here, who am I going to be?"
Dr. N: I think that's a very big deal. Essentially, the child is acknowl- edging that its identity depends on you.
S: (patiently) The child has begun to ask itself, "Who am I?" Some
children are more aware of this than others. A few are resistant because, to them, we are an irritation to their inert beginnings— like a pearl in an oyster.
Dr. N: So you don't feel the child senses it is being forced to give up something of its individuality?
S: No, we have come as souls to give the child ... depth of personality. Its being is enhanced by our presence. Without us they would largely function as unripened fruit.
Dr. N: But does the child understand any of this before birth?
S: It only knows that I want to be friends so we can do things together. We begin by communicating with each other with simple things such as an uncomfortable body position in the mother's womb. There have been times when the umbilical chord was wrapped around the neck of the baby and I have calmed the child where otherwise it might have squirmed and made things worse.
Dr. N: Please continue with how you assist the baby.
S: I prepare the child for birth, which is going to be a shock when it happens. Imagine being forced out of a warm, comfortable, secure womb into the bright lights of a hospital room ... the noise ... having to breathe air... being handled. The child appreciates my help because my primary goal now is to combat fear by soothing the brain with assurances that everything will be fine.
Dr. N: I wonder what it was like for children before souls came to help them?
S: The brain was too primitive then to conceptualize the trauma of birthing. There was little awareness. (Laughs) Of course I wasn't around in those days.
Dr. N: Are you able to calm anxious mothers in any way?
S: We must be proficient. During much of my existence I had little or no effect on my mothers if they were frightened, sad or angry during pregnancy. You must be able to align your energy vibrations with both the child and the mother's natural body rhythms. You have to harmonize three sets of wave levels—which includes your own—to soothe the mother. I might even have the baby kick the mother to let her know we are all right.
Dr. N: Then at birth, I supposed the hard work of the merger is over?
S: To be honest, the merger isn't complete yet for me. I talk to my body
as a second entity up to the age of six. It is better not to force a full meld right away. We play games as two people tor a while.
Dr. N: I have noticed a lot of young children talk to themselves as if they were with an imaginary playmate. Is that their soul?
S: (grinning) That's right, although our guides enjoy playing with us as young children too. And have you also noticed the elderly talking to themselves a lot? They are preparing for separation at the other end in their own way.
Dr. N: In general how do you feel about coming back to Earth in life after life?
S: As a gift. This is such a muhifaceted planet. Sure, this place brings heartache, but it is delightful too and incredibly heautiful. The human body is a marvel of form and structure. 1 never cease to be awed by each new body, the many different ways I can express myself in them, especially in the most important way—love.

[Chester]

I have an interesting consideration regarding the difference between the picture we might get from Newton's work as opposed to Dr. Malanga's work.

The role the observer plays cannot be disregarded. No matter what techniques are used, the observer, because of the focus of their attention, is going to influence the appearance of the observation.

Then when we third party observers read the accounts presented by Newton and Malanga, we cannot help but see differences (and some quite significant) between the two data sets and that causes the logical mind to question one or the other or both as to the veracity or perhaps better stated, the believability.

It's possible both are true. What I mean by that is that if both Newton and Malanga have only good intentions in what they are hoping to accomplish - which is helping the individual undergoing the process, then in that sense it seems to me that the results are true for both practitioners.

What a mystery this all is.

It is finally dawning on me the immense personal responsibility I have (I assume we all have) in the reality we experience - specifically in relation to how this effects others.

Thank you, Houamn, AnthonyBacala, mountain_jim, Daughter of Time, G. Deluca and tonius for your recent posts. Thank you especially for the much needed translation of Dr. Malanga’s works/videos as many of us here on Avalon do not speak Italian.

[Daughter of Time]

One thing I forgot to mention about the Malanga videos is that Dr. Malanga is fully convinced that nightmares, phobias, anxiety and panic attacks, split personality and such occurrences are mostly the result of abductions and alien visitations as one is not always abudcted. One could be visited and implanted in one's own bed.

[Hervé]

Remember these?:



The following posts come from themilababductions.blogspot.com
the website no longer exists, so this is from Google Cache

Keep in mind that the following posts are from a single abductee (Kiya) and that he was never in control of his experience and that some of his memories could have been altered and he might have been experiencing the VRT (Virtual Reality Technology) mentioned by Dr Karla Turner


Kiya
[...]

from http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:O_4MYVVrOhUJ:themilababductions.blogspot.com/2011/12/stasis-tubes_25.html+themilababductions.blogspot.com+DE+dimension&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

[...]

The tube closest to me held a little brown-haired boy of perhaps 8-10 years old. His eyes were missing as was his left arm. It was the most vile thing I've ever seen and it sickened me to the core. I didn't want to look at these hacked up humans and tried to escape. I found I was paralyzed and couldn't move so I stared at my feet so I wouldn't have to look at these stasis tubes. I was standing on a metal grate catwalk. To my left was a short ladder leading to yet another level of these stasis tubes.

I was given the telepathic message to stop working these Illuminati abduction cases or "You'll end up in one of these tubes!"

From my sketchbook: The Stasis Tubes

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RIKdu3hC_T8/T0cy8VhKvlI/AAAAAAAADss/N1c44Hy2_xQ/s640/100_0272_0012.JPG
[...]

Other Milabs have made sketches of these same stasis tubes they have seen.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9N5fMs2cshk/Thx8o-3PVnI/AAAAAAAACxQ/djFxnbOhBFA/s640/soultransfer_lindaporter.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zZvLrA9dhAs/TsIe8sn_IBI/AAAAAAAAC_s/EK-7QJTlUoc/s640/9dcbbd275005.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Xx2EPRHMH7c/TsIe3bkyCTI/AAAAAAAAC_k/4RAphLtoQEQ/s640/stasistubes_kenrose.jpg
Clearly, there is ample evidence of the existence of these stasis tubes.

[...]



I am glad these "memories" are finally surfacing all over the place in which abductees often run into their "clone(s)" in one or more of these "stasis tubes".

Well, there is a slightly different perspective on these containers and their uses.

A perspective that has been ridiculed, trampled with scoffing criticisms; in short cointelpro-ed by any and all means available to the letter agencies and others when the truthful reality of something is closely approached, as exhibited with whistle blowers or the battles of debunkings / counter-debunking displayed all over the world-wide-web.

Keep the above in mind when running into the name of the author of the following first published in 1952!:



Bodies in pawn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_(Scientology)#Bodies_in_pawn)

Bodies in pawn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_(Scientology)#Bodies_in_pawn) result from an ancient "very gruesome experience" in which:

a fellow is grabbed, hypnotized, shoved into an electronic field, and then told he is somewhere else. And so he departs—most of him—and goes to the new location while still being under control of the implanters. He picks up a MEST [Matter-Energy-Space-Time = physical] body in the new location and starts living a life there, while still having a living body somewhere else. The implanters can keep his original body alive indefinitely, and control the thetan through it. If the thetan tries to flee, the hypnotizers simply cause pain to the original body, still alive in a vat of fluid, and he is immediately recalled. That's a BODY IN PAWN. It's a second body you may have, living somewhere else, right in present time. But the second body is not under YOUR direct control.
(Source magazine #105, pg.39, 1997; see also Hubbard, Research and Discovery Series vol. 10)
They can apparently cause major problems for people undergoing medical operations, as "pain, an anaesthetic or a serious accident cause him to change to the other area with a shocking impact on the other body. The other body quite commonly dies or is deranged by the sudden impact." This gives the patient a repressed feeling of having died and leaves him "very, very badly disturbed." (Scientology: A History of Man)

Now, that perspective gives off a wealth of clues regarding:


Voodoo
Parallel universes
NDEs
Time lines
Soul transfers
Add your own...
Voodoo: Where would one think the idea of pocking needles and nails into a substitute body to keep the intended recipient in line comes from?

Parallel universes: Having memories of living in two or more places at the same time.

NDEs: "Sorry pal, you've got to go back to that messed up body of yours because something happened to the one we had here... the container broke...."

Soul transfers: Easy as pie: Standard Political Operating Procedure... with post-hypnotic commands of misbehaving with the new walk-in body: "Go take control of the body of that president's wife and get her to like having s&x with little boys and girls and we'll get your husband from here to do the same with your new husband over there so we can blackmail them all." The internecine battles of secret societies....

Sci-Fi? Think again! Where do you think most of these Sci-Fi writers get their "inspirations" from? Particularly the popular ones, since they strike a few resonant chords in most people long memory.

Think of the many "super-soldiers" now coming out from under the woodpile and recounting their "dream-state" intense training in which there is no fear of anything whatsoever.

It seems to me that that's the technology that was imparted to the militaries of this planet, the ones dreaming of perfect robotic soldiers with no fear to die... hey, they've got a spare body somewhere!


Now, for the main difficulty most researchers in that field are unaware of.

The major difficulty, apart from screen memories, is that similar experiences get all lumped up together in one individual's mind. Hence there might be an actual current happening of abductions getting mixed up with past ones as recounted by Truman Cash... or not. But the now widespread reporting of UFO and abduction occurrences may be enough to strike those resonant chords of past long memories and bring them to the here and now for the individual, triggering them into enactment of past traumas.

So, for those following this thread, welcome to the mind's mine field!

[Houman]

Tonius and DaughterOfTime: Thanks for the posts (keep them coming).

It is no coincidence that Satanists are going down the same road as these entities (in their "world", they strive for a separation from the "source" by focusing the "self", they call this act "Xeper")...

from "The Dark Lord", P. Simpson

"So if Nirvana is a diffusing of self, then Xeper is a focusing of self?" "In a way, yes."

from https://xeper.org/maquino/nm/BlackMagicRL.pdf


...The Setian sees before him none of this. His initiation unfolds him into
a god - a creator of universes, not their servant, pet, or otherwise-
component. While still in physical incarnation, he distinguishes and
distances himself ever further from the OU; upon his final separation from
it he becomes fully, permanently, and immortally the font, source, primum
movens of what was formerly his SU - and now his own OU. This is a
formidable, even terrifying anticipation for non Setian intellects; their
literature abounds with warnings of the dire fate and punishment awaiting
those who, like Icarus, dare to approach, much less become gods
themselves.
But to the Setian this Xeper, this full Coming Into Being, is the ultimate
affirmation, manifestion, and fulfillment of one's conscious existence. Its
culmination is implicit and foreordained in one's very first step into the
Temple of Set.


Note: OU= Obective universe, SU= Subjective universe








Ultimately, the four videos I have watched of Malanga's describe how these aliens look, but almost nothing about what they do to the abductees.
I imagine there must be other Malaga videos out there. If I find them and they describe different alien actitivities from the above descriptions, I will translate/paraphrase his words here.

Daughter of Time thanks for your contibution, i would like to explain further some of the work of this man. I will do it with my words,from what i have understood from him ,after having seen almost every video thats out there about his work. What is interesting is that malanga is not an abductee himself, and this fact in combination with his scientific aproach is an advantage, from the ''being more'' objective point of view. He is a professsor of chemistry in the university of Pisa, he has also published works in his area, many years ago he was part of the ''classic'' ufo studing community, the same like many in other countries, amatuers who study photos all their life without going further. He saw that something was wrong in their aproach, and things seemed to go much deeper. He got away and begin his own research.

There is a great combination of scientific mind, curiosity,courage, humility in this man, thats why from what i have learned from many sources ,like avalon, other reserches i still consider his work one of the most complete and most ''scientific'' as it can go. With scientific i dont mean the classical way, its more in the sense of a great tool if used the right way, with the only purpose being : discovering the truth in whatever form it comes. He had to learn hypnosis, and later use the nlp concepts adapted to his needs to ''communicate'' with what is deep in each of us,and its not so easy. In their sessions with hundreds of abductees all over italy, he (and his assistants) began noticing the same patern everywhere, with little changing deatils ( its understandable that when you go into the subconcious af a person whose memory has also been erased from alien technology, to have slightly different interpretations, even two persons fully awake see the same thing as different based on their interpretation of it. But the things that happened to these people during abductions were the same in core, and after so many sessions things began to be clearer.

Its interesting when he says : Its not about what you and me want or not to belive, its about the fact that something big is going here under our noses and few are willing to see what it is.

I find his work interesting because i was always interested on the bigger picture, for what is at the top of the pyramide, as far as we can see of it. What is the main result of his work , if it could be told in one sentence? : They are interested esclusivly in what we call Soul, Soul energy, that connection we have with the source of all. Everything else they do, the physical effects ,the studies of our bodies etc... are just a result of their main purpose. As now its clear, some of these beings are not physical at all, and even if the ''reptilians'' seem to at the top some of these pyramid, the pyramid seems to go further up. Its like the less you see or can understand of these beings the more dangerous ( for us ) they are, as the now famous ''ra'' seems to be. But this comes out from many other sources too.

Returning to what happens to the abductess in this process , they all talk about the same things, they see themself in kind of cylindrical conteiners and frequently nearby there is usually an alien being ,in another conteainer, usually reptilian form where they test their latest advancments in soul energy transfer, like we were batteries to them, batteries for their survival and also for their pleasure, when we say we are ''food'' to them seems literally true, although their foood has less to do with physical matter. Sometimes the abductees see a copy of them in the other cylinder, this is in the cases when more work has to be done so they have to send someone ''down'' not to arise suspicion, and these are very good copies , with the abducties memories and everything exept the soul part. Only a close person may notice the ''coldness' in the copy, but without this knowlegde its difficult to understand whats happening. What Malanga does to help abductees in this process is to connect to their soul, and make it aware of whats happening, how this beings are taking advantage of her container ( the physical body and other parts of our rapresentation in this reality) and once the soul understands whats happening there is no alien that can stand in the way.

I want to add some words of mine, my take on this :
When malanga talks about these aliens as a dying race ,with no soul connection trying desperatly to find a way to survive , at least the lower parts of this pyramid, i interpret the ''dying'' part as a price to pay for not willing to go further in the spiritual evolution, the road to the source of all, this in the bigger picture, if you try for to long to stick to a certain pradatory way of existing you are missing the point, that phase was ment to make you understand you what you really are , and ''who'' started the process shurely had a backup plan in case any ''part'' of the consciousness took this wrong direction, wrong because they know more than we do what its all about, they just like too much existing for eternity in this way. They dont accept they are part of a bigger project, like a drug addict ( their drug is negativity, thats what they are) they pretend to have the benefits of the drug while expecting to have the life span other people do. This is an analogy, as it seems, its like whent a part of our body isn't used for a long time, or not needed anymore ceasses to be alive. In this analogy the body being ''all there is''.

Having advanced technolgy doesn't mean anything what we talk about consciousness, as it itself is just an illusion, a tool that symbolicly rappresents what to that ''part'' of counsciosness is ''allowed'' to do, manifest at a certain point of its spiritual evolution, what counts is the intention,particular to each part of consciousness, in our case this group of alien races are a part of consciousness ( with part i mean a certain rapresentation of it through their intentions). No one really dies, but for them going on in the spiritual evolution is not an option, its like dying, they had all the ''time'' to ''get'' it , thats why their technology is so advanced but their spiritual understanding is not. They are addicted to the game they created (as they like us are a manifastitation of consciousness), and you cant pretend living a healthy life going against your body , snifing drugs all day (analogy).

As nothing really dies , the part that started all this game knows this ( call it god, source... doesnt matter ) so ,like in a chess game it knows the game cant go on if any piece ''refuses'' to follow the rules, and if for the piece living the game , means dying, the end of it, too much addicted to that chesboard, than of course it will do anything to stay on it, even praying on other pieces it still belives there is a way to stay more. Peices must leave for the game to go on, and all the frustration of a piece leaving is that it sees itself just a separate entity, with its unique form, forgetting its just a creation of the two players for the sake of playing, in fact it forgets its the player himself as it was the intetion of the player moving it, ''using'' it, that gave a sense to its existence to begin with. Being in the chesboard or not doesnt matter at all if there is no players moving it with an intetion, and in this anlogy what we call ''SOUL'' is the presence of this intetion, otherwise its are just a piece of wood or plastic without a purpose. And these alien beings have lost the support of the ''players'' who created them, there is no intention anymore in their movement, they are just ''fighting'' with other pieces , changing the nature of the game they wre creted for campletely,and thats whats ment by : they need our soul energy, it means they lost the support of their creator, there is no more intention behind their movements, they are ''dead' just like chess pieces without anyone playing are usless, just a decoration.

Thats how its explained how its possible that apperantly ''less evolved'' beings like us have something this ''more evolved'' beings would die for, they are just better shaped , looking chesboard pieces, they had all the time to perfect their outer look, their appereance ( analogy for their technological advancement) but they know that it doesnt matter until they are part of a real chess game with real players, and thts what we have ,''reason to be'', we are the ney players. And they will do anything to have some of this energy, this intention coming from the source, and this source doesnt care what you look like, what is worth is your moves, moves that from this alien group (alien to us) have become boring a long time ago, time for them to leave .

I know i got far but for me these is the most important part , understanding what makes us so special to them, at the point where they abduct us, direct our lives through their hybrids and human pupets, and hide us fro the rest of the ''chesboard''. Once understood this, one can go further srtuding the implications ,the effects of this, what we talk about every day, but discussing all day without understanding better the reasons of whats happening is not the way. I am aware that explaining things with words is tough, and they just merely rapresent how things realy look ''out there'' , but i trust ,like i mentioned above that what counts is our Intention to really search the truth, as far as we can, and as no intention gets wasted , eventually will come the moment we will see for what it really is, what we have so much discussed about and tried to figure out with our limited means at the moment. Its like when has has never seen the sea,been there, you can waste all life reding about it, discussing infinitely with others that have not seen it, but it takes just one minute of feeling the waves tickling your foots to have all your questions answered, all that notions, that chaos in your head, speculatins abot these beautiful part of this physical reality disappear, now you really know.

There is much of Malanga's work to talk about ,but for this post i think is enough.He has my full appreciation for what he has done, like may other sincere researchers, he has trully helped us all, not only the people who no more get abducted but even others ,to understand better that the reality we think we are part of is bigger than we imagined, imagine if what he has done alone, was done also by other so called ''scientists'', pseudo intellectuals, if this desire to search the truth became our collective intention, what a different reality we would have here.

[Houman]

Not sure if this will help all of those curious about Newton's work, but I just found this. Houman, what do you think about this material?


I am not familiar with it (I have to look into it) but it would seem that you and mountain_jim are doing a good job at investigating it...

[Daughter of Time]

In Dr. Malanga's film, Hexabor, the alien who possessed the young woman, states that Satanic cults were started by an alien race and all their high priests are aliens as well as most of the members. Hexabor also informs that the reason for altering our DNA a very long time ago was so that we could look more like them, therefore they can live amogst us undetected.

In his videos, Dr. Malaga states that once abducted, there is not need to re-abduct you unless they wish to implant you with something new or do something to you that they didn't do the first time. A mere visit to your bed will re-inforce the initial programming and implant.

[Chester]

One thing I forgot to mention about the Malanga videos is that Dr. Malanga is fully convinced that nightmares, phobias, anxiety and panic attacks, split personality and such occurrences are mostly the result of abductions and alien visitations as one is not always abudcted. One could be visited and implanted in one's own bed.

Amazing... two nights ago, about 2 hours after I went to sleep, I awoke from a vivid dream. This is the first time I have ever had a dream like this that I recall (I am 54). In the dream, aliens had me somewhere where I am going to have an object inserted into me. The object appeared to be glass and was shaped like an arc and was about 3/4 of an inch long and was shiny black.

Let me add this to, in the dream were 4 or 5 of these beings that were working on me. It was like we were friends. I wasn't afraid of them. They were similar to one of the grey groups but these seemed to have souls... they felt very alive. We were connected and I had no fear of them. Still, something in me made me wake up.

Then last night about 1.5 hours after I went to sleep, I had another vivid dream and the first time I ever had this but now that I have, I "know" what it feels like to have an out of body experience. In my dream I vividly felt "me" leaving my body. I was standing in a room and "I" departed my body to my direct left. To my left was a white plaster wall only about 3 to 5 feet from my physical body. When "I" came to the wall, I had a strange sense that I was to go through the wall and "I" started to move through the wall but "I" became very afraid... I had a feeling that if I went through the wall, I might not be able to get back to my body and so I did what i always do when I get scared in a dream, I woke up.

That these two dreams come at this time in light of all the postings I have been making and revelations about my personal story and all... these two experiences which were dreams but very very vivid, is no surprise and then I read this post I quoted here.

In addition, and because I am determined to get to the bottom of all this (as if I ever will), and because of the several mentions of the work of Dr. Michael Newton I went to his website -

http://www.spiritualregression.org/

Went to the contact TNI page - then found a link called "Find a Therapist." Did a search for my area and found a gentleman named Mark V. Johnson and e-mailed him about an appointment and costs. He e-mailed me back and suggested I call instead. I called today at around 11:30 AM and we talked for over 2 hours!

He has training from both Deloris Cannon and Dr. Newton but mentioned he has incorporated his own techniques, etc. and well, to make a long story short (hard for me... I know), I have scheduled to meet with him and undergo a multi-hour session - past life regression and have plans to go for the LBL afterwards. My appointment is for June 4th. This should be interesting.

I will report whatever I can, and he does record the sessions. It will be interesting to see what comes out based on all the nutty stuff I have posted about (which is only about 1/4th of my story... just haven't been able to bring myself to cover some of the other though I believe I will reveal it all on Avalon by the end of the next few months).

Man... am I glad I found this site. You folks are amazing. Thanks for putting up with my BS when I get that way.

justone

[Daughter of Time]

justoneman, for your sake, I hope that what you reported above is only dreams - it could be only dreams. It could also be memories of a previous abduction. Reading and contributing to this thread might have triggered memories that were buried in your subconscious.

When they abduct you from your bed, it's not just the non physical essence that they take, they actually manage to de-materialize the body so it can go through walls and then re-materialize it once it is out of your home! I don't know how they do that, but it has been reported by Dr. Malanga and other experts that this is what happens.

There is a film called "The Fourth Kind" which is actually a documentary of UFO abductions in a small town in Alaska. It is extremely frightening. The footage is not dramatized, but real - abductions and possessions caught on camera! I recommend that you watch if you haven't done so yet. It is frightening. But knowledge is power. It is better to know and be frightened than to remain ignorant. The more ignorant we are, the easier it is to become and remain prey.

I personally have had many experiences like the ones you reported above. I could fill a book about my personal experiences. You are not alone.

Those beings have been preying on us for probably nearly a million years. They are very clever. But we are starting to awaken and to remember. I'm sure they don't like this because it's so much easier to prey on someone who doesn't believe they exist. This kind of communication is very important because most of the humans on this planet are still very much asleep.

As a group, we are stronger than alone. We will get to the bottom of it somehow and find a way to keep them away.

[Hervé]

Found this which is said to be actual footage not part of the movie:

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Comments:

Uploaded by jasperfinch (http://www.youtube.com/user/jasperfinch) on Mar 14, 2010
This video is case footage not recreated for the movie.
This movie is copyrighted by Universal Studios and I have nothing to do with them. This is not my video.

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I had a weird experience as a child where I awoke to a smell I'd never experienced and still haven't I couldn't open my eyes or move my arms and legs could only shout, I freaked out and my body started shaking and I blanked out, when I finally came to again I was in my bed,since I was a child I'd never thought much of it, I can't explain anything from the experience, but it was definitely a weird experience

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no it wasn't. none of the events are real, the backstory was created as a gimmick for the movie, the "found footage" is *also* faked, this movie is 100% fiction.

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Sorry but this isnt fake maybe that actress that played her was fake but all this really happened in nome, Alaska.... all real events.... i know "just cause its a movie" its realy not faked in real life..... If you really looked hard enough for the cases on the internet but i don't believe you can because our goverment wants it to be a secret .... yes i believe in aliens :D

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[Guest]

All of these little babies absolutely horrific.
This thread has been very difficult to read, but I am grateful to it and all who have contributed.
I have had to stop and go do other things or read another thread that is lighter in nature.
This is a much needed thread and I hope a lot of people will read it and see the reality of it all
and take some action in their lives or help another person(s).

Yes there are a lot of parallels in my own life.

Here are a couple of links to other threads on the same topic.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?5402-Soul-harvester&highlight=soul+harvester

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32203-Mass-genocide-of-Mohawk-children-by-UK-Queen-and-Vatican-uncovered-in-Canada&highlight=mohawk+children


Love

Nora

[Daughter of Time]

Amzer, thank you for posting the footage above. There are other cases in the film very similar to that one. From what I remember, all abductors spoke in Sumerian.

Dr. Nora Tyler video taped her cases. These beings killed her husband in bed next to her and they abducted her young daughter by levitating her right through the ceiling. The worst thing is that they blamed her for the deaths. But the abductors didn't kill her. They just drove her insane. At the end of the film she is interviewed - a very broken woman. Her daughter was never returned and her son blamed her as well. The film haunted me for days. It still does when I think about it.

Nora, I know how difficult it must be for you to read and watch these things. But the more people become aware of this reality, the greater the chance of finding a solution. There is strength in numbers.

Love and light (we need it)

[Chester]

justoneman, for your sake, I hope that what you reported above is only dreams - it could be only dreams. It could also be memories of a previous abduction. Reading and contributing to this thread might have triggered memories that were buried in your subconscious.

When they abduct you from your bed, it's not just the non physical essence that they take, they actually manage to de-materialize the body so it can go through walls and then re-materialize it once it is out of your home! I don't know how they do that, but it has been reported by Dr. Malanga and other experts that this is what happens.

There is a film called "The Fourth Kind" which is actually a documentary of UFO abductions in a small town in Alaska. It is extremely frightening. The footage is not dramatized, but real - abductions and possessions caught on camera! I recommend that you watch if you haven't done so yet. It is frightening. But knowledge is power. It is better to know and be frightened than to remain ignorant. The more ignorant we are, the easier it is to become and remain prey.

I personally have had many experiences like the ones you reported above. I could fill a book about my personal experiences. You are not alone.

Those beings have been preying on us for probably nearly a million years. They are very clever. But we are starting to awaken and to remember. I'm sure they don't like this because it's so much easier to prey on someone who doesn't believe they exist. This kind of communication is very important because most of the humans on this planet are still very much asleep.

As a group, we are stronger than alone. We will get to the bottom of it somehow and find a way to keep them away.

Well, I am certain these two experiences were dreams but they were quite vivid and that makes me consider they could be very real experiences within the astral realm.

But hey, I am way past being afraid of these beings. There's nothing they can do to me anymore. Men in Black? Bring 'em on. I mean it. I may change my mind afterwards but for now, bring 'em on.

Last night I had a very vivid dream with George W. Bush. He even addressed me by name. It was a very positive dream. This is perhaps the 4th or 5th George W. Bush dream I have had. I have also had at least 4 Bill Clinton dreams. I have only had 1 Barack Obama dream. Anyways, they were always good dreams... like they knew me and for some weird reason seemed to respect me. Last night's dream was the first time I ever got addressed directly by name by any of the presidents. What's funny too is that I met with a cousin of mine today I have not seen in 35 or so years. He mentioned he has played golf a few times recently with "W" and said he is a really nice guy, and can be quite funny.

justone

[Houman]

From http://www.henrymakow.com/subterranean_secrets_by_fritz.html


"Not only is our government focused on building deep secret cities, but so are Illuminati families."



by Fritz Springmeier
(henrymakow.com)


The beautiful artwork in ancient Spanish caves, or the catacombs in Rome remind us that man has always had an underground presence.

During the 1990's, my research repeatedly brought me in contact with individuals who stated that they had been in deep underground military bases.


Of course a number of these are openly admitted by the American government, for instance Cheyenne Mountain.

And many are not. I discovered that not only was our government focused on building deep secret cities, but the Illuminati families were also.

Furthermore, they were using technology that the public was unaware existed. The idea behind it all was to create safe and secret places for themselves.

Witnesses have described elevators going miles down, super-fast trains, back-up government agencies, genetic experiments, warehouses of stock piled materials, and a non-human human hybrid project.

But what continues to haunt me was the look one eyewitness gave me when he said, "Fritz, you don't have a clue. What is going on is beyond all you have thought of." And after that, there was a stoned-faced mask on his countenance.

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DIAMOND HEAD

My first experience with this subject was when I was a fifth grader in Hawaii. On one field trip we were taken inside the iconic Diamond Head volcano where the government of Hawaii had an unused facility in case they needed to flee a nuclear holocaust.

I realized the government had placed their survival on a higher priority than the people they supposedly served. The rest of us sheeple were to be left to die. Your tax dollars at work.

The American government secretly received a boost in their abilities to build underground when they brought over Xaver Dorsh in Operation Paperclip. He was head of the Nazi's Todt Organization which built some incredibly sophisticated underground cities for the Nazis.

Bear in mind this organization had built the Autobahn for the Nazis far in advance of our Interstate system. The American and Russian governments have kept secret how sophisticated these underground Nazi cities were.

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For years, I had tried to track these Deep Underground Military Bases and their purposes, doing such things as traveling to Dulce, NM. When I met Phil Snyder (left) who had worked on these bases, I was excited to compare my discoveries/info to his firsthand knowledge.
We were able to share information several times until he was suicided the day before we were to meet again. Afterwards, I placed my information on the 140 American DUMB bases in my Deeper Insights book in the middle of book between part 1 and part 2.

Different agencies have their own underground installations. That explains why there are so many.

The NSA, CIA, FEMA, Naval Intelligence, the Air force NORAD and others all need their own secret underground bases. Some of the work with strategic reserves, nuclear activities, secret weapons, communications and computers, and hardened defense structures are legitimate activities for underground bases.

And others, genetic manipulation (like cloning), individual mind control, population control, and lethal ways to kill populations, are not. We have truly lost control over our government. If you'll pardon the pun, it is truly out of oversight.

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BLACK OPS

Area 51, NV (left) and White Sands Missile base, NM have been large tracts of land where underground installations have allowed for exotic black ops research. Unfortunately, the information that leaks out does not sound good.

These black ops are not projects for the public good. Many of them are downright scary. Some are bizarre like keeping a severed human head alive. And instead of being U.S. government projects, many of the levels on these bases actually belong to the Illuminati and their secret world government, which has been operating since 1954.

Besides vast tracts of land in sparsely populated regions, the ocean has become a grand place to locate secret bases.

What are some of these bases like? Some have facilities for growing food. Many are connected. Spokes link areas to other areas. Hi-tech camouflage and quick shutting entrances conceal the entrances. Witnesses claim non-human species inhabit the lower levels.

My personal take on these things is that this is a modern-day example of the Nephilim that were created by interbreeding in ancient times. So we are witnessing more apocalyptic signs.

The same shivers that ran down my spine as a ten year old student when I went into the underground city at Diamond Head volcano near Honolulu continue today when I contemplate these bases and their uses.

These bases are designed so the elite could survive a nuclear war or world-wide epidemic, or a natural disaster like an asteroid hit, reversal of the earth's pole, or a galactic dust cloud which they allow us to endure while they live in safety.

Whatever disaster they see coming, they are prepared.

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[AnthonyBacala]

Not sure if this will help all of those curious about Newton's work, but I just found this. Houman, what do you think about this material?


I am not familiar with it (I have to look into it) but it would seem that you and mountain_jim are doing a good job at investigating it...

Thank you, it is interesting how things appear when you shed new light on them. Looking at this material and being able to decipher, or read between the lines of these personal cases could be another piece to this puzzle.


Case 61
Kanno is a Japanese scientist who, years ago, came to the U.S. for his advanced education. Today he prefers a life of relative isolation in labo- ratories. He suffers from a poor immune system, a common complaint among hybrid soul clients. These people are negatively influenced by too-little experience with the human body and too many alien imprints carried over from their former existences. As I have said, it may take the hybrid soul many generations of earthly incarnations before a complete memory cleansing of old body energy patterns will take place. I began our session in my customary fashion, by regressing Kanno to the time when he was inside his mother's womb. This is a good place for a spiritual regressionist to start interacting with a client's soul. While inside his mother, my subject reported that he had trepidations about his coming birth stemming from his one prior life on Earth some 300 years ago in India. I continued the regression to Kanno's death scene in India and then we crossed into the spirit world. I will pick up the dia- logue with Kanno when he meets his guide, Phinus.

Dr. N: What does Phinus say to you?
S: She says, "Welcome back, how did you like the ride?" Dr. N: And what is your response?
S: Did it have to be so terrible?
Dr. N: Does she agree with your assessment of life in India?
S: Phinus reminds me that I volunteered to have a difficult opening life on F.arth because I wanted to receive the full impact of a dis- ruptive planet. I was the poorest of the poor in India and lived in squalor .
Dr. N: Did you want to suffer this much in your initial life?
S: The life was terrible and I didn't handle it well. When a childless family took my daughter against my will by paying the owner of the shack where I lived, I became so distraught I could not function. (Kanno jerks in his chair and emotionally relives the moments after his last death) WHAT KIND OF A PLANET IS THIS ANYWAY? PEOPLE SELLING CHILDREN!
Dr. N: (at this point I do not yet know about Kanno's hybrid origins and I make a wrong assumption) This does seem as though it was a very difficult first incarnation for a new soul on Earth.
S: Who said 1 was a new soul?
Dr. N: I'm sorry, Kanno. 1 just assumed that right now you are only in your second incarnation on Earth.
S: That's true, but I'm from another dimension.
Dr. N: (startled) Oh, then what can you tell me about this other dimension?
S: We had no physical worlds as you have in this dimension. My incarnations were on a mental world.
Dr. N: What did you look like on this world?
S: I had an elongated, flowing body—spongy, with no skeletal structure. We were rather transparent forms of silvery light.
Dr. N: Did you prefer a certain type of gender?
S: We were all hermaphrodites.
Dr. N: Kanno, please explain the difference between traveling to the dimension of your origins from the spirit world as opposed to coming into our universe.
S: In my dimension movement is like going through soft, translucent filaments of light. Coming into your universe is like plowing through thick, heavy, moisture-laden fog.
Dr. N: And being on Earth for the first time—what was that like compared to your home world?
S: Having concrete tied to your feet. The first thing you notice is the heavy weight of the dense energy here compared to a mental world, (pause) It isn't just heavy—it's coarse ... severe ... I was really jolted in that life in India.
Dr. N: Is all this a little better now—are you becoming acclimatized?
S: (without confidence) To some extent. It's still pretty difficult...
Dr. N: I can see that. Kanno, what is the most troubling aspect about the human brain for you?
S: (abruptly) Ahh—it's the impulsive behavior—the physical reaction to things—without analytical thought. There is danger in connecting with the wrong kind of human being, too ... treachery ... I can't deal with this.
Dr. N: (Kanno is sweating profusely and I quiet him now a bit before continuing) Tell me about your mental world. Does it have a name?
S: (pause) It's a sound which I can't re-create with my voice, (begins reminiscing) We float in a sea of gentle mental currents ... soft... playful... so unlike Earth.
Dr. N: Then why come here?
S: (with a deep sigh) I am studying to be an Explorer-teacher. Most of my associates are satisfied to confine their efforts to one dimension. I finally told Phinus I wanted broader experience with a hard world in a completely different zone of existence. She told me she had a senior colleague who recommended another dimension with a strenuous physical world that had a reputation for producing vigorous, insightful souls (with a gallows laugh)— once you survive the lessons. This was Earth.
Dr. N: Did you get the impression there were other choices open to you?
S: (shrugs) Guides don't give you many choices in such situations. Phinus said that when I completed my work on Earth I would be strengthened in ways my friends who refused such assignments would not be. She said Earth would also be quite interesting and I accepted that.
Dr. N: Did any of your friends come with you into our dimension?
S: (flatly) I do not know.
Dr. N: (cautiously) Well, is your home dimension next to ours? S: No, I must pass through three other dimensions to get here.
S: No, I was the only one who elected to go and I almost refused to return again in this life. My associates think I am very brave. They know if I make it, I'm going to be an effective traveler.
Dr. N: Let's talk about travel, Kanno. As an interdimensional traveler, you probably know if there is a finite number of dimensions around our physical universe.
Dr. N: Kanno, it would be helpful if you would try and describe what you see as you pass through these dimensions you are familiar with in your travels.
S: The first dimension is a sphere full of colors and violent explosions of light, sound and energy ... I think it is still forming. The next is black and empty—we call it the unused sphere. Then there is a beautiful dimension which has both physical and mental worlds composed of gentle emotion, tender elements and keen thought. This dimension is superior to my original dimension and your universe as well.
Dr. N: It's now your universe too, Kanno. Tell me, does the trip through the total of four dimensions take long?
S: No, quickly—like air particles passing through a filter.
Dr. N: Can you give me a sense of the structural design between these dimensions in relation to the spirit world? You described the dimensions as spheres. Why don't we start with that.
S: (long pause) I can't tell you much. Everything is ... in a circle around the center of the spirit world. Each of these universes appears to me to be an interlocking sphere with the next, as in a chain.
Dr. N: (after failing to gain more information) How are you getting on in our universe now, Kanno?
S: (rubbing his hand on his forehead) Better. I am learning how to discharge my energy in a steady, positive stream without depleting my reserve. It helps me to be away from people for long periods. I expect to really improve after a few more lives, but I am looking forward to completing my time here on Earth. Before leaving the realm of the Explorer Soul, I should add that this sort of training involves learning about the texture of intelligent energy. I am frustrated in not being able to discover more about the properties of this energy in motion on mental worlds. Some information comes to me from those souls who have had experience on physical worlds which are also considered mental, as demonstrated by the following condensed quote:
We visit the volcanic gas world of Crion to learn by assimilation. It is a mental world with outward physical attributes. Our group of Explorers float as blobs of fluid energy in a sea of gaseous substances. We are metamor-phic and able to change shape and form into the tiny beings whose life is centered around pure thought. There is absolute vibrational uniformity here, unlike Earth.

Souls who travel interdimensionally explain that their movements appear to be in and out of curved spheres connected by zones that are opened and closed by converging vibrational attunement. Explorer trainees have to learn this skill. From the accounts 1 have heard, the interdimensional travelers must also learn about the surface boundaries of zones connecting universes as hikers locating trailheads between mountain ranges. Souls speak of points, lines and surfaces in multi- space which indicate larger structural solids, at least for the physical universes. I would think dimensions having geometric designs need hyperspace to hold them. Yet Explorer Souls travel so fast in some sort of hyperspace it seems to me the essence of speed, time and direction of travel is hardly definitive. Training to be an Explorer must indeed be formidable, as indicated by this quote from a client who travels through five dimensions between her lives:

These dimensions are meshed with one another so that I have no sense of boundaries except for two elements, sound and color. With sound, I must learn to attune my energy to the vibrational frequency of each dimension, and some are so complex I can not yet go to them. With color, the purples, blues, yellows, reds and whites are manifestations of light and density for those energy particles in the dimensions where I travel.

[Houman]

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[Houman]

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[Jean-Luc]

From http://www.henrymakow.com/subterranean_secrets_by_fritz.html
"Not only is our government focused on building deep secret cities, but so are Illuminati families."

by Fritz Springmeier
(henrymakow.com)



FYI, I wrote Henry Makov yesterday mentionning Truman Cash's works with excerpts on DUMBs. This was his immediate reply:


"Thanks Jean-Luc
I will post this later today with another article on the subject
h"

Given his religious stand, he might have changed mind. We'll see.
This was my mail to him:



Dear Henry

Even if extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, I found in the reading of both books of abductee & researcher Truman Cash interesting evidence for the existences of DUMBs with alien/military interaction, as crazy as it may sound for the honourable man. The books are tough reading (and hard to swallow) but still definitely worth the time spent (they are free for download) for any open minded people & other truth seekers.

Book One, THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET: http://lunahelia.com/docs/cash.zip
“To my utter amazement I realized the true nature of this insidious cover-up when uncovered the eyewitness testimony of an abductee who was taken to an underground base jointly manned by aliens and military / intelligence personnel. In the summer of 1994, I too was abducted and taken to an underground U . S . military/aliens base.”
+ testimony on pages on pages 60-74.

“The existence of underground U.S. military / alien bases proves that "we the people" no longer have any significant say-so in the operation of our own government under the Constitution. Although many Americans are keenly aware that there is something wrong with government and that our elected officials don ' t seem to be listening to
the common people, they are unaware of why this is happening or how it came about . Furthermore, this Machiavellian cover-up is so pervasive and so unbelievable, most Americans would think you were crazy if you told them. And it is the ETCs (for extra-terrestrial conspirators) that are the ultimate source of the cover-up . The importance of " invisibility" is why UFO sightings are kept to a bare minimum . The machinations of the ETCs are effective only because they operate behind the cloak of secrecy .” Page 192.

Book Two, THE EYE OF RA: http://lunahelia.com/docs/cash2.zip

More on underground bases abduction on pages 80-84 and 117-124

“This statement flies in the face of the firsthand "evidence" of many abductees who have experienced abductions by the military or have experienced abductions in deep underground military/alien bases where American military personnel are standing right next to or are working with Grays and other aliens in the same room. David Jacobs debunks the military/alien connection on pages 187 and 188 of his book. As an abductee/researcher I do not understand why Budd Hopkins and David Jacobs would debunk the military/alien connection when so many abductees have gone public with their experiences. Were Hopkins and Jacobs threatened by the CIA or military or other "covert ops" people to keep their mouths shut about it? Arc they knowingly participating in the cover-up? Were they programmed with MK-Ultra-style mind control not to talk about it? One can only speculate.“

“Phil Schneider was a deep underground base engineer and abductee with a very high security level. He also exposed the military/alien connection. I knew Phil personally and I am totally convinced he was telling the truth.”

Jean-Luc

[Houman]

“ Although many Americans are keenly aware that there is something wrong with government and that our elected officials don ' t seem to be listening to
the common people, they are unaware of why this is happening or how it came about . Furthermore, this Machiavellian cover-up is so pervasive and so unbelievable, most Americans would think you were crazy if you told them. And it is the ETCs (for extra-terrestrial conspirators) that are the ultimate source of the cover-up . The importance of " invisibility" is why UFO sightings are kept to a bare minimum . The machinations of the ETCs are effective only because they operate behind the cloak of secrecy .” Page 192.


There is indeed something ... very wrong... with these D.U.M.B.s

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[Bill Ryan]

From http://www.henrymakow.com/subterranean_secrets_by_fritz.html
"Not only is our government focused on building deep secret cities, but so are Illuminati families."

by Fritz Springmeier
(henrymakow.com)



FYI, I wrote Henry Makov yesterday mentionning Truman Cash's works with excepts on DUMBs. This was his immediate reply:


"Thanks Jean-Luc
I will post this later today with another article on the subject
h"

Given his religious stand, he might have changed mind. We'll see.
This was my mail to him:



Dear Henry

Even if extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, I found in the reading of both books of abductee & researcher Truman Cash interesting evidence for the existences of DUMBs with alien/military interaction, as crazy as it may sound for the honourable man. The books are tough reading (and hard to swallow) but still definitely worth the time spent (they are free for download) for any open minded people & other truth seekers.

Book One, THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET: http://lunahelia.com/docs/cash.zip
“To my utter amazement I realized the true nature of this insidious cover-up when uncovered the eyewitness testimony of an abductee who was taken to an underground base jointly manned by aliens and military / intelligence personnel. In the summer of 1994, I too was abducted and taken to an underground U . S . military/aliens base.”
+ testimony on pages on pages 60-74.

“The existence of underground U.S. military / alien bases proves that "we the people" no longer have any significant say-so in the operation of our own government under the Constitution. Although many Americans are keenly aware that there is something wrong with government and that our elected officials don ' t seem to be listening to
the common people, they are unaware of why this is happening or how it came about . Furthermore, this Machiavellian cover-up is so pervasive and so unbelievable, most Americans would think you were crazy if you told them. And it is the ETCs (for extra-terrestrial conspirators) that are the ultimate source of the cover-up . The importance of " invisibility" is why UFO sightings are kept to a bare minimum . The machinations of the ETCs are effective only because they operate behind the cloak of secrecy .” Page 192.

Book Two, THE EYE OF RA: http://lunahelia.com/docs/cash2.zip

More on underground bases abduction on pages 80-84 and 117-124

“This statement flies in the face of the firsthand "evidence" of many abductees who have experienced abductions by the military or have experienced abductions in deep underground military/alien bases where American military personnel are standing right next to or are working with Grays and other aliens in the same room. David Jacobs debunks the military/alien connection on pages 187 and 188 of his book. As an abductee/researcher I do not understand why Budd Hopkins and David Jacobs would debunk the military/alien connection when so many abductees have gone public with their experiences. Were Hopkins and Jacobs threatened by the CIA or military or other "covert ops" people to keep their mouths shut about it? Arc they knowingly participating in the cover-up? Were they programmed with MK-Ultra-style mind control not to talk about it? One can only speculate.“

“Phil Schneider was a deep underground base engineer and abductee with a very high security level. He also exposed the military/alien connection. I knew Phil personally and I am totally convinced he was telling the truth.”

Jean-Luc

Many reading this may not know that Truman Cash is now a member of the Avalon forum.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?11717-TrumanCash

I met him a few weeks ago in person for the first time (he's a friend of a friend, and the meeting was quite accidental). We got talking, I listened to his story with great interest, and I immediately directed him to this thread -- inviting him to join the forum so that he could contribute.

There are quite a few synchronous events occurring here... :)

[Jean-Luc]

There are quite a few synchronous events occurring here... :)

Good to hear Truman in now a member.

Talking about synchronicities: Before even reading your note above, I was actually just busy sending you this PM which I now gladly share:

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Any chance of a life-interview with abductee/researcher Truman Cash ?

Hi Bill

I just read (through the Houman thread) both books of researcher/abductee Truman Cash which I found breathtaking, well documented and to-the-point (even if sometimes difficult to swallow!!).

Book One, THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET: http://lunahelia.com/docs/cash.zip
Book Two, THE EYE OF RA: http://lunahelia.com/docs/cash2.zip

For many reasons, including your own past life recalls, and in case you'd feel picking up your videocam' once again (or use skype) I'd say that an interview/discussion between Truman Cash and you could be very beneficial in many respects.

Any chance of this happening one day?

I had a brief exchange of mails with Truman where coincidentally he told me he talked to you 3-4 weesk ago

Best wishes
Jean-Luc

:)

[TrumanCash]

Hello everyone. Thanks for welcoming me to the forum. I am happy to respond to questions that forum members may have regarding my research and experiences. I also want to thank Bill Ryan for establishing this unique forum.

I was abducted twice into a military/Grays underground base but I have edited out the location of the base in my book THE EYE OF RA as I think that would get me in trouble. So far "the government" has not bothered me for speaking out. I think that is because I won't reveal the exact location of the base and also because my credibility is questionable because I have revealed my past life experiences with Ra. I mean, who is going to believe someone who claims to have been Ramses II? So my lack of credibility is my protection in as far as secret government is concerned.

I am not seeking public attention so I use a pen name. I like to live a private, simple life. I only mentioned my lifetime as an Egyptian pharaoh because of the significance of the negative interference I personally witnessed by the ET group that established most of the planet's religions and secret societies. Because of my experiences I was able to establish the connection between ETs, secret societies and Satanism. I also worked with another another abductee that had similar experiences with this human-looking ET group. I have also been able to connect some of the dots between various ET groups and how they work together to keep mankind in spiritual darkness.

I also had the rare privilege of having met Phil Schneider when he was traveling around with Al Bielek. I got to handle and examine some of the "artifacts" that Phil had. Phil obviously had a lot of courage to speak out about what he knew and had experienced--a true American hero.

Truman L. Cash

[Hervé]

Hi Truman!

Welcome to Project Avalon!

Thanks to that "chance" meeting with Bill, an interview becomes irrelevant thanks to your offer of answering questions directly.; it is much appreciated.

Wish you to enjoy your journey here.

[Hervé]

Underground Bases & Nephilim are Real - Insider

May 25, 2012

"If the world feels more evil today than it did 20
or 30 years ago, you are not imagining it."


[Editor's Note: We reserve judgment and present this information for discussion.]


by Carolyn Hamlett
(henrymakow.com)

After reading "Subterranean Secrets" (http://www.henrymakow.com/subterranean_secrets_by_fritz.html)by Fritz Springmeier, I want to respond to some of the comments from your readers. I know the topic about hybrids and Nephilim is pretty far out, but not so far out when explained in terms that people are accustomed to:

From my lifetime as a former multigenerational server (http://www.henrymakow.com/the_making_of_an_illuminati_sl.html) in the organization that has been working to implement "The Plan" for the NWO, I can tell you that large underground bases do exist and that many bizarre projects such as genetic experimentation and hybridization have taken place there for many years.

In reference to "Jack's" comment, his questioning on how so many employees of such cities or underground facilities could remain quiet about them:

There are several answers to this.

1) First of all, in the military and in the organization responsible for implementing the plan for the NWO, no one is given such a responsibility unless he or she has been tested and found able to keep all activities and information secret.

2) Some military bases contract out certain projects to "civilian" companies who hire non-military personnel who are given secret clearance only after they have passed various tests, one of which is to be able to keep their work secret. My former husband worked on secret projects, yet he never divulged anything at all about the base or his work there.

3) There are people "employed" in the underground facilities who are there for life.

4) Something to keep in mind are the very real top-secret programs that existed during WWII that involved many people who were dedicated enough or fearful enough to keep it all secretive. My former father-in-law was a code breaker at a secret location known as "The Farm". The reality to all at "The Farm" was that if there was a breech of secrecy, the whole farm with all inhabitants would be blown sky high in an instant.

Another former friend of mine, a retired nuclear physicist, who also spent time at "The Farm", was also assigned to work on the "H" Bomb project at Los Alamos. He too has remained silent concerning his work.

To this very day, the details of the operations at those two places "The Farm" and Los Alamos, have remained obscure due to [enforcers who] make sure that the general public never receives the truth, and does not believe the truth if it is told.


SUPERNATURAL EVIL

Many people are talking about Nephilim, but are they ready to believe that the Nephilim are a reality? What if someone came forth to say that they know for a fact that the Nephilim are real, would this person be believed?

My bet is that people can talk all day long about Nephilim, but if someone came forward to say that they know from first-hand experience that the Nephilim do indeed exist today on earth, this person would not be believed.

Consider this: Just because you can't see it, just because you can't hear it, does not mean it does not exist.

Dogs are able to hear frequencies that are not audible to our human ears. The earth looks flat, but isn't. In this physical world, there are gases we do not see, but exist. There are radio waves, microwaves and other frequencies that we do not see or hear, but they do indeed exist.

Much of what we do not understand today is not because we are not intelligent enough as a species to understand, or that we are not spiritually "evolved" enough to grasp it.

[...]

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Full article here: http://www.henrymakow.com/

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Jean-Luc, Henry posted your mail to him as a comment below the article.

[Daughter of Time]

Mr. Cash, welcome and thank you!

I would be very curious and grateful to have some advice from you as to how an abductee can prevent further abductions and programmings and how to de-prorgram oneself.

I have not, as of yet, read THE EYE OF RA but i intent to. Perhaps it contains very valuable information about my questions.

[Hervé]

Now... in support to Carolyn Hamlett (http://http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=495303&viewfull=1#post495303)'s whistle blowing is something from far out left field, i.e., "Riding the Wave" by Laura Knight-Jadczyk:



A: Now, some history... as you know, the CIA and NSA and other agencies are the children of Nazi Gestapo... the SS, which was an experiment influenced by Antareans who were practicing for the eventual reintroduction of the Nephalim on to 3rd and/or 4th density earth. And the contact with the “Antareans” was initiated by the Thule Society, which groomed its dupe subject, Adolph Hitler to be the all-time mind-programmed figurehead. Now, in modern times, you have seen, but so far, on a lesser scale: Oswald, Ruby, Demorenschildt, Sirhan Sirhan, James Earl Ray, Arthur Bremer, Farakhan, Menendez, Bundy, Ramirez, Dahmer, etc...




Q: (L) Okay. They were preparing this breeding ground, so to speak. Obviously this was for the introduction of some other genetic strain. What was this?
A: Nephilim.

Q: (L) Well, if the Nephilim are coming in ships, 36 million of them, why bother to create half-breeds here?
A: Yes, but having an “advance party” makes 3rd density conquest much easier.

Q: (L) So, this Master Race was supposed to get everything ready...
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay, what is it about the Semitic genes that was considered to be so undesirable in the creation of this ‘Master Race?’
A: Would blemish genetic characteristics inclined to ruthlessness and domination.

Q: (L) So, you are saying that there is something, some genetic tendency or set of genes in the Semitic type that would counteract this?
A: Close.
A: The concept of a “master race” put forward by the Nazis was merely a 4th density STS effort to create a physical vehicle with the correct frequency resonance vibration for 4th density STS souls to occupy in 3rd density. It was also a “trial run” for planned events in what you perceive to be your future.

Q: (L) You mean with a strong STS frequency so they can have a “vehicle” in 3rd density, so to speak?
A: Correct. Frequency resonance vibration! Very important.

Q: (L) So, that is why they are programming and experimenting? And all these folks running around who some think are “programmed,” could be individuals who are raising their nastiness levels high enough to accommodate the truly negative STS 4th density - sort of like walk-ins or something, only not nice ones?
A: You do not have very many of those present yet, but that was, and still is, the plan of some of the 4th density STS types.

[Daughter of Time]

Thank you Amzer for the above post.

The frequency vibration you quote above resonates with Dr. Malanga's film about -6.66 herz enslaving the soul and 666 liberating it. Now, I don't know how true this is, however, it does makes one think since 666 ended up being the number of the devil which everyone would fear - yet another conspiracy to keep people away from the frequency that can actually liberate them.

[Houman]

Hello everyone. Thanks for welcoming me to the forum. I am happy to respond to questions that forum members may have regarding my research and experiences. I also want to thank Bill Ryan for establishing this unique forum.

I was abducted twice into a military/Grays underground base but I have edited out the location of the base in my book THE EYE OF RA as I think that would get me in trouble. So far "the government" has not bothered me for speaking out. I think that is because I won't reveal the exact location of the base and also because my credibility is questionable because I have revealed my past life experiences with Ra. I mean, who is going to believe someone who claims to have been Ramses II? So my lack of credibility is my protection in as far as secret government is concerned.

I am not seeking public attention so I use a pen name. I like to live a private, simple life. I only mentioned my lifetime as an Egyptian pharaoh because of the significance of the negative interference I personally witnessed by the ET group that established most of the planet's religions and secret societies. Because of my experiences I was able to establish the connection between ETs, secret societies and Satanism. I also worked with another another abductee that had similar experiences with this human-looking ET group. I have also been able to connect some of the dots between various ET groups and how they work together to keep mankind in spiritual darkness.

I also had the rare privilege of having met Phil Schneider when he was traveling around with Al Bielek. I got to handle and examine some of the "artifacts" that Phil had. Phil obviously had a lot of courage to speak out about what he knew and had experienced--a true American hero.

Truman L. Cash

Hi Truman,

Thanks for your post and thanks for joining the forum. Questions will come soon (I am first going to read your books in details).
Houman

[Hervé]

Thank you Amzer for the above post.

The frequency vibration you quote above resonates with Dr. Malanga's film about -6.66 herz enslaving the soul and 666 liberating it. Now, I don't know how true this is, however, it does makes one think since 666 ended up being the number of the devil which everyone would fear - yet another conspiracy to keep people away from the frequency that can actually liberate them.

Hi D.O.T., you typed the words right out of my keyboard!

I was going to post the same dot-connecting!

Well done on beating me to it!

See Daughter of Time's Post # 622 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=493389&viewfull=1#post493389)

[Houman]

I am not sure about that part:

a frequency is simply a number of cycles per seconds (http://www.ugrad.math.ubc.ca/coursedoc/math100/notes/trig/phase.html) and if you use a frequency generator to produce a sound
6.66 Hz and -6.66 Hz will produce the same sound (with a phase shift). In math terms this would look like this, if \omega is the frequency and \sin(\omega t) the associated signal then
then the signal generated by -\omega is -\sin(\omega t)=\sin(\omega (t+\pi/\omega)), i.e. it is the same signal shifted in time.

This does not mean that "frequencies" do not affect us (they do in terms of brainwaves, and neurofeedback is based on that principle) but I will leave that for another time






Thank you Amzer for the above post.

The frequency vibration you quote above resonates with Dr. Malanga's film about -6.66 herz enslaving the soul and 666 liberating it. Now, I don't know how true this is, however, it does makes one think since 666 ended up being the number of the devil which everyone would fear - yet another conspiracy to keep people away from the frequency that can actually liberate them.

Hi D.O.T., you typed the words right out of my keyboard!

I was going to post the same dot-connecting!

Well done on beating me to it!

See Daughter of Time's Post # 622 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=493389&viewfull=1#post493389)

[Houman]

==== Post Update ===

I will add this info on frequencies and the brain

There is a protocol in neurofeedback called the alpha-theta protocol (http://www.neurodynamic.info/uploads/Peniston_2_1_.pdf, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15820636) and it is commonly used for treating people suffering from trauma and PTSD.

It is not based on the 6.66Hz frequency but on a modulation between the alpha (8 to 12 Hz) and the theta (4 to 8 Hz) frequencies, these frequencies correspond to brain activities and this modulation allows for the conscious mind to access the sub-conscious mind (siege of the trauma)...

there is much more to that subject (neurofeedback) as it can and has been used for healing or nefarious purposes but I will leave that for another time

Houmam

[Hervé]

I am not sure about that part:

a frequency is simply a number of cycles per seconds (http://www.ugrad.math.ubc.ca/coursedoc/math100/notes/trig/phase.html) and if you use a frequency generator to produce a sound
6.66 Hz and -6.66 Hz will produce the same sound (with a phase shift). In math terms this would look like this, if \omega is the frequency and \sin(\omega t) the associated signal then
then the signal generated by -\omega is -\sin(\omega t)=\sin(\omega (t+\pi/\omega)), i.e. it is the same signal shifted in time.

This does not mean that "frequencies" do not affect us (they do in terms of brainwaves, and neurofeedback is based on that principle) but I will leave that for another time

[...]

Thinking about it, the phase shift might just be a way of expressing the cancellation of the 6.66 hz frequency as is done for "white noise" and the filtering of unwanted sounds, etc...

[Houman]

That's a constant phase shift (no white noise involved) it is like listening to the same tape but pushing the button start a little bit later in time...



I am not sure about that part:

a frequency is simply a number of cycles per seconds (http://www.ugrad.math.ubc.ca/coursedoc/math100/notes/trig/phase.html) and if you use a frequency generator to produce a sound
6.66 Hz and -6.66 Hz will produce the same sound (with a phase shift). In math terms this would look like this, if \omega is the frequency and \sin(\omega t) the associated signal then
then the signal generated by -\omega is -\sin(\omega t)=\sin(\omega (t+\pi/\omega)), i.e. it is the same signal shifted in time.

This does not mean that "frequencies" do not affect us (they do in terms of brainwaves, and neurofeedback is based on that principle) but I will leave that for another time

[...]

Thinking about it, the phase shift might just be a way of expressing the cancellation of the 6.66 hz frequency as is done for "white noise" and the filtering of unwanted sounds, etc...

[Hervé]

That's a constant phase shift (no white noise involved) it is like listening to the same tape but pushing the button start a little bit later in time...




Thinking about it, the phase shift might just be a way of expressing the cancellation of the 6.66 hz frequency as is done for "white noise" and the filtering of unwanted sounds, etc...

All right, this is what I was talking about:



Active noise control (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_cancellation)

Sound is a P-wave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-wave), which consists of a compression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gain_compression) phase and a rarefaction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rarefaction) phase. A noise-cancellation speaker emits a sound wave with the same amplitude (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amplitude) but with inverted phase (also known as antiphase (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiphase)) to the original sound. The waves combine to form a new wave, in a process called interference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interference_(wave_propagation)), and effectively cancel each other out - an effect which is called phase cancellation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_cancellation).

Therefore, the "playing" of that antiphase at that party mentioned by Dr. Malanga cancelled the nefarious frequency/"sound" used at that party.

This implies that the nefarious frequency was also "played" at that party, otherwise, you are right in that if there is not another wave/frequency to cancel it boils down to just playing that very same frequency with a 1/2 period time shift.

Hope this clarifies the matter a bit?

[Houman]

From "The programming of a planet" by Truman Cash


I find it interesting that the government was working behind the
scenes on the production of "Close Encounters of the Third Kind . "
Steven Spielberg even recruited Dr. J . Allen Hynek as a technical
adviser for the film . It is also interesting that the Grays were also
working behind the scenes of this movie . Timothy Beckley covers this
strange phenomenon in his book UFOS AMONG THE STARS. The movie
deceptively portrays abduct ions as being not only harmless, but
desirable. The subtle message conveyed is that we let our fears cloud
our perception of ETs , so they get bad press. It also portrays these
Hollywood aliens , which look somewhat like Grays, as being benevolent
and Spielberg spins an air of awe toward the aliens . Even the
abduction movie " Intruders , II which is based on a true story , ends on a
happy note and the star abductee marvels that she is chosen to
contribute to the aliens ' bizarre genetics project. Abductions in real
life rarely have a happy ending . The "screen memories II (telepathic
implants ) , which ETs often use to disguise the actual traumatic details
of the abduction, only give the illusion of innocence or benevolence.



from http://www.henrymakow.com/australian_satanist_exposes_wo.html


"A mentor" in the Satanic network set him up in the travel business and for years Frater live a life of unimaginable wealth, occultism and debauchery. He studied the blacks arts: divination, dark meditation, sacrifice, sexual vampirism, voodoo dolls and sex magic. Each day ended with a "Black Mass orgy of unforgettable and unspeakable delight."
The US-based "Church of Satan" was the public face of "an ancient body whose very existence had never before been imagined." He lists as "influential members" J.P. Morgan, Drs. James McDonald and Rene Hardy, the Kennedy's (including Jackie), Irving Berlin, Groucho Marx, Elvis Presley, Garner Ted Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Ronald Reagan, Edward Heath, Thomas Plantard de St Claire and the Bushes. He later mentions Stephen Spielberg, George Lucas and Gerald Ford as members.


=====

If this is the case then I find it "interesting" that they are releasing movies such as "The Fourth Kind" now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r25ZUxTURis

[Houman]

It is not that simple you have to know/measure the phase of the first signal before being able to cancel it with a second signal with a phase shift via superposition (the phase shift has to be relative to that of the first signal)...
Houman



That's a constant phase shift (no white noise involved) it is like listening to the same tape but pushing the button start a little bit later in time...




Thinking about it, the phase shift might just be a way of expressing the cancellation of the 6.66 hz frequency as is done for "white noise" and the filtering of unwanted sounds, etc...

All right, this is what I was talking about:



Active noise control (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_cancellation)

Sound is a P-wave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-wave), which consists of a compression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gain_compression) phase and a rarefaction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rarefaction) phase. A noise-cancellation speaker emits a sound wave with the same amplitude (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amplitude) but with inverted phase (also known as antiphase (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiphase)) to the original sound. The waves combine to form a new wave, in a process called interference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interference_(wave_propagation)), and effectively cancel each other out - an effect which is called phase cancellation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_cancellation).

Therefore, the "playing" of that antiphase at that party mentioned by Dr. Malanga cancelled the nefarious frequency/"sound" used at that party.

This implies that the nefarious frequency was also "played" at that party, otherwise, you are right in that if there is not another wave/frequency to cancel it boils down to just playing that very same frequency with a 1/2 period time shift.

Hope this clarifies the matter a bit?

[Hervé]

It is not that simple you have to know/measure the phase of the first signal before being able to cancel it with a second signal with a phase shift via superposition (the phase shift has to be relative to that of the first signal)...
Houman


[...]

All right, this is what I was talking about:



Active noise control (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_cancellation)

Sound is a P-wave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-wave), which consists of a compression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gain_compression) phase and a rarefaction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rarefaction) phase. A noise-cancellation speaker emits a sound wave with the same amplitude (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amplitude) but with inverted phase (also known as antiphase (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiphase)) to the original sound. The waves combine to form a new wave, in a process called interference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interference_(wave_propagation)), and effectively cancel each other out - an effect which is called phase cancellation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_cancellation).

Therefore, the "playing" of that antiphase at that party mentioned by Dr. Malanga cancelled the nefarious frequency/"sound" used at that party.

This implies that the nefarious frequency was also "played" at that party, otherwise, you are right in that if there is not another wave/frequency to cancel it boils down to just playing that very same frequency with a 1/2 period time shift.

Hope this clarifies the matter a bit?

Whether simple or not, it seems that Dr. malanga managed to implement it, as such it's not only a possible, plausible thing to implement but a feasible thing that has been successfully implemented,

The references:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_cancellation

Where one can find all sorts of applications and some of the patents publicly known for such applications.

[Houman]

From "The programming of a planet" by Truman Cash

"I can't express in words the horrible shock I experienced when I
realized that I was abducted not only by Grays , but our own military
people. It is one thing to read about it happening to other people,
but it is quite another matter when it happens to you personally . For
it confirms that our own government has been subverted by the
military/ intelligence establishment . It confirms that our government
is no longer "of the people, by the people, and for the people. 1I It
confirms that our own government has committed treason against its own
citizens by making a deal with the enemy and aiding and abetting them.
This reality just sort of popped up and slapped me really hard in the
face. I knew that from this point on, my life would never be the same .
I began to realize that I now had the unpleasant responsibility of
informing the American people not only of the truth about alien
abductions, but also of the military/ intelligence take-over of our
country . This is a very strange position to be in since this reality
is just too incredible for most people to take seriously."

[Houman]

They mention it in the movie but I would like to see it in Dr Malanga's writings before taking this seriously. It is also one thing to measure a "sound" (and reverse it, and as you can imagine the effects are very localized and it does not work perfectly) it is another to measure the "6.66 Hz" signal if it is not a sound or an electro-magnetic signal...



It is not that simple you have to know/measure the phase of the first signal before being able to cancel it with a second signal with a phase shift via superposition (the phase shift has to be relative to that of the first signal)...
Houman


[...]

All right, this is what I was talking about:



Active noise control (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_cancellation)

Sound is a P-wave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-wave), which consists of a compression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gain_compression) phase and a rarefaction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rarefaction) phase. A noise-cancellation speaker emits a sound wave with the same amplitude (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amplitude) but with inverted phase (also known as antiphase (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiphase)) to the original sound. The waves combine to form a new wave, in a process called interference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interference_(wave_propagation)), and effectively cancel each other out - an effect which is called phase cancellation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_cancellation).

Therefore, the "playing" of that antiphase at that party mentioned by Dr. Malanga cancelled the nefarious frequency/"sound" used at that party.

This implies that the nefarious frequency was also "played" at that party, otherwise, you are right in that if there is not another wave/frequency to cancel it boils down to just playing that very same frequency with a 1/2 period time shift.

Hope this clarifies the matter a bit?

Whether simple or not, it seems that Dr. malanga managed to implement it, as such it's not only a possible, plausible thing to implement but a feasible thing that has been successfully implemented,

The references:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_cancellation

Where one can find all sorts of applications and some of the patents publicly known for such applications.

[Houman]

Truman: I have two questions for you at this stage if you are okay with it.

1 Are you still being abducted?

2.a If no, how did you stop it? (or did it stop on its own?)

2.b If yes, did you try Dr Malanga's SIMBAD technique?

Houman

[Hervé]

They mention it in the movie but I would like to see it in Dr Malanga's writings before taking this seriously.

[...]

I am sorry I can't really help you with that one.



It is also one thing to measure a "sound" (and reverse it, and as you can imagine the effects are very localized and it does not work perfectly) it is another to measure the "6.66 Hz" signal if it is not a sound or an electro-magnetic signal...

True, the inference is that of a "party" where sound was used.

I have no idea if similar ELF as used to generate "resonating eathquakes" are also used to generate such a frequency from, let say, "GWEN towers?"

[Daughter of Time]

It is true that the 666 frequency information was in the film and not in the tapes. I have no idea if such a thing is in his writings.

However, since the film was based on Dr. Malanga's findings, then I assume that there must be some truth to it. Perhaps it is just a theory. But I imagine that Dr. Malanga must have given a lot of thought as to what the last scene of his film would be, and in the last scene the hypnotist expounds that the frequency will be our secret for keeping "them" away.

When writing a screenplay, whether fact or fiction, one always leaves the solution/explanation/resolution for the end. I imagine Dr. Malanga realized how powerful his words would be and how deeply they would resonate with his audiences, and after all his contribution to this subject, most people would take his words literally.

I know that ultimately this doesn't shed any light as to whether the frequency sound is something he actually used with his cases or whether it's a theory he feels very strongly about.

It certainly piqued my interest.

[Houman]

Truman: Still reading your book... (vol I).

One comment: you write

Somewhere between 750 and 550 B . C . a Persian prophet--an Aryan by
the name of Zoroaster--created a new religion. His "Judgement Day"
prophecy was purportedly given to him personally by the one true God,
Ahura Mazda , a human-looking bearded god who traversed the heavens in
his winged disk.

Zoroastrism is actually much older than that (1737 B.C according to some sources)... this can be seen via the fact that Zoroastrian scriptures contain much older Avestan languages than those in usage at -700BC (at that time those were dead languages and it was the role of the Magi to interpret them)...
The "750 and 550 B C" confusion has to do with the fact that it is around this time that Greek records first mention "Zoro Aster" (the shining star)

Here is a link on how Zoroastrians see themselves http://zoroastrian.angelfire.com/
I find this link interesting because they identify Jehovah with Amun-Ra (as you do in your book)...

Houman

[Houman]

From "The programming of a planet" by Truman Cash


As you will remember in Akarat 's abduction, "Ra" proclaimed a
"final Judgement Day, and all of the believers will be lifted up and
saved. This is not only a common Christian belief , but many New Agers
believe that they will be beamed up into spaceships and saved by ETs
right before a major Earth cataclysm soon to come . These revelations
come from channeled entities who usually stipulate that only those who
have achieved a higher consciousness or higher "frequency" will be
chosen for this extra-terrestrial version of the rapture . For example,
in the book PROJECT WORLD EVACUATION ( 199 3 ) , "Tuellall channels Soltec
of the Ashtar Command who sends greetings from the spaceship "The Great
Phoenix" and declares that evacuation from the planet up into
spacecraft is inevitable . Not surprisingly, some of the New Age
channeled entities bear such names as "Ra" and "Ptah". Many other
channeled extra-terrestrials have been making cataclysmic "end of the
world" prophecies , which indicates that the ETCs are alive and well
even today and are up to their same old tricks.
In September of 1993 I was abducted from my van and was told by a
female Gray that I would be beamed up and saved by them right before
great catastrophes and wars occur on Earth. Thanks , but no thanks !


...

During the Council of Nicea in the fourth century A . D . the Roman
Emperor Constantine rejected the concept of reincarnation and other
"pagan" belie f s . In Constantinople in 553 A . D . the Byzantine Emperor
Justinian proclaimed that anyone who believed in the past lives
phenomenon ( "prior existence of souls" ) would be anathematized
( accursed) by the Church , thereby reinforcing the Heaven/Hell myth in
early Christianity . Later during the Inquisition the concept of Hell
was brutally and severely reinforced by burning women and even young
children alive at the stake . The Inquisitors ' justification of this
insanity was that the eternally damned should begin their punishment in
this life so as to serve as an example to others who might start
thinking "heretical" thoughts . Today Christianity owes much of its
widespread existence to its previous modus operandi of acquiring
adherents via torture and death and the ultimate threat of eternal
punishment in Hell . When the Spanish invaded the Americas, they not
only stole all the gold of the natives (who claimed that the gold
belonged to the "Gods" that flew) , but they even resorted to cutting
off the native s ' body parts until they pledged allegiance to
Christianity . Fortunately, the Catholic Church no longer uses these
methods to gain converts . However , the discussion of the past lives
phenomenon is still considered "blasphemous" by many Christians today .


...


Let's now summarize the some of the basic characteristics of the
social implant:
1 . Social implants are based on faith. They demand blind,
unquestioning allegiance, worship, or acceptance of a God,
prophet , leader , philosophy, discipline, cause, or secret
fraternal doctrine.
2 . Social implants are held in place by using the push/pull principle
of reward/punishment , Heaven/Hell , Eternal Life/ Eternal Death,
power/victim, pleasure/pain, life/death; they appeal to emotions,
not rational thought; fear is one of the primary motivations.
3 . Social implants are accepted and agreed to voluntarily and
consciously ; they are passed down from generation to generation
and from person to person like a communicable disease.
4 . The ETCs are the hidden source of social implants.
5 . The purpose of social implantation is to control Earth humans .
Control ( ORDER) is achieved by, a ) creating conflict, war, and
d isunity ( CHAOS ) ; b} creating and establishing unworkable "deadend"
rel igious practices and philosophies to keep mankind from
discovering our true spiritual nature and the true nature of the
situation we are i n ; c ) maintaining the condition of amnesia to
keep mankind from discovering both present and past life
psychological implant s , which would lead to spiritual freedom i f
revealed.
6 . Social implants and psychological implants are mutually
reinforcing; that is, the power of the social implant is dependent
upon earlier psychological implantation, and likewise,
psychological implants are triggered and reinforced by existing
social implants




Secret societies are social implants, which have certain
identifying character istics that I have summarized below:
1 . The most obvious characteristic of secret societies is that they
are secret. This is not the same as a club or society with an
exclusive membership; secret society members are often threatened
with death if they reveal their secret s ; they take "blood oaths."
The fact that they are secret is tacit admission that they have
something to hide that i s destructive to society as a whole.
2 . The hidden source of secret societies are the ETCs .
3 . The major secret societies are structured within the framework of
one or more religions or ancient "Mysteries" that serve as
vehicles for the secret societies.
4 . The goal of secret societies is to infiltrate the political
structure of countries in order to control each country .
Political (non-religious) secret societies are formed within the
governments of nations, such as "intelligence" agencies like the
CIA and NSA or political/economic groups such as the Council on
Foreign Relations and Trilateral Commission. The ultimate goal is
to control the entire planet under an oppressive one world
government. Secret societies are and have been the vehicle by
which an elite few have gained control over the many . Only a
smal l percentage of the population are aware of the real power
structure and chain of command on Earth and of the pervasive
influence of secret societies.
5 . Secret societies often profess spiritual enlightenment , secret
knowledge , or " illumination", hence " Illuminati." According to
Zecharia Sitchin the term " Ilu"--which meant "Lofty Ones" - -was the
Akkadian word for the flying people that in later civilizations
became identified as "Gods . " Perhaps this is more than just a
mere coincidence.
6 . Secret societies are usually permeated with rituals and symbolism.
7 . Only some of the elect ( a lso cal led "Adepts and Sages" ) in the
highest echelons (degrees) of the order are aware of the true
purpose and modus operandi of the secret society . Built within
the system of degrees i s a system to separate and promote
sociopaths to the highest degrees. There are secrets within
secrets and fraternities within fraternities . Most secret
societies present a public appearance of being only a charitable
and benevolent organization; most members are unaware of the other
hidden, sociopathic side of the organization.
8 . Secret societies often share similar symbol s , rituals , myths and
titles , which indicate a common heritage or source , i . e . the ETCs .
Symbol s of violence and death are commonplace. Both secret
societies and religions use rituals and symbols that purportedly
have "mystical" value, but actually they are arbitrary and, as
Jack Wylie observed , nonsensical . Indeed , mysticism is a common
attribute of both secret societies and religions. Mysticism is
simply the result of ETCs assigning a significance to something
that is insignificant. For exampl e , the ETCs showed Akarat body
movements that he must teach others in order to properly worship
the "Gods . 1I The pentagram and the hexagram are two examples of
symbols that have been promoted as having mystical , or magical ,
powers ( i . e . " sacred geometry " ) , and one or both of these symbols
appear in such diverse social implants as Freemasonry , Judaism,
satanism, and more recently the Ashtar Command and the Raelian
movement . [The Raelian movement was founded by Claude Vorilhan
who reported being contacted by ETs in 1973 . They claimed to be
the " Elohim , " the ET group that had genetically created mankind on
Earth . Their symbol is the swastika in the middle of a hexagram.
Modern contactees and prophets will be covered more extensively in
Book Two of THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET . ] The rebirth ritual is a
common denominator of secret societies; it is intended to create
an altered viewpoint through a mystical experience of the
initiate . If the initiate actually experiences a mystical
"rebirth , " it is due to the triggering of past life psychological
implants .
9 . Social upheaval and war are often historically associated with the
activities of secret societies.
1 0 . Secret societies have helped create the world banking system, both
historically and currently .
1 1 . One of the secrets of secret societies is to branch out by taking
on different names and identities, but retaining the same unity of
purpose . In spite of this, however, sometimes secret societies
have been at odds with one another .
12 . Mysteries and secrets are the magnets that entice initiates to
venture deeper , degree by degree , into the inner mysteries , which
are seldom ever revealed. The ultimate secret is that they have
all been manipulated by the Ra/lshtar/Thoth ETC group, and it is a
game that everyone loses . The promise is " illumination , " but the
end result is de-evolution for all mankind.
1 3 . The guarded secrets are usually not written down , but rather they
are passed on verbally , person-to-person. I n this way secrets can
sometimes be communicated down through the centuries without there
being any tangible proof o f their existence or of a conspiracy .
1 4 . An attitude of elitism is indoctrinated into secret society
member s , or as Jack Wylie put it, "everybody else was crap . 1I
Murder and mayhem are acceptable and justifiable means to
accomplish goals .


...

There are those that believe that benevolent ETs are going to save
us . However , there has never been an instance in recorded history
where any benevolent ETs have successfully intervened on our behalf to
prevent a major catastrophe or to thwart the negative aliens '
manipulations. In fact just fifty years ago a major mass genocide
occurred in Nazi Germany in which an estimated eleven million innocent
people were brutally exterminated; before that an estimated forty
million people were exterminated by Stalin; not one "benevolent ET"
raised as much as a finger in assistance or even in protest ! Both of
these genocidal projects can be traced to the Illuminati , which can, in
turn, be traced to the ETCs. I've discovered from my own past life
memories that Adolph Hitler and his Nazis were hobnobbing with Grays
even before World War II . It is time for us to stop being so naive.
Of course, there are self-proclaimed "benevolent ETs" who have
appointed present-day prophets to "channel" their sugar-coated messages
concerning the upcoming evacuation of planet Earth in which "The Chosen
Ones" will be beamed up to a better life. This, however, is just
another variation of the "believe and you'll be saved" deceptions that
the ETCs have been using for millennia to hook the unsuspecting and
foster complacency. I can only speak for myself by saying that this is
one fish that has too often felt the sting of that hook , and I'll no
longer take that bait.
This is a tough planet to live on. There is no survival value in
being naive, gullible, innocent, ignorant, or being a sheep . The time
to break away is now. Not with revolution, but evolution. Not with
violence, but with understanding. The ultimate weapon is truth. The
first step of the quantum leap begins with the peaceful dissemination
of the truth . Without a proper understanding of our present situation

[G.Deluca]

the information about 666 it's just a theory he had,he never implemented this method,it's the only part that is fiction in the film,the end
he thought about this theory because he wanted to free people on a larger scale with sound,but he never had the funds,because malanga worked for more that 20 years for free

[observer]

There are many researchers today who believe the Nazis created a 'break-away civilization' through the assistance of hyperdimensional entities known as the Giza Intelligence, who were 'channeled' by Maria Orsitsch (and others) from an inner circle of the Thule Society known as the Vril Society.

Many researchers including Dr. Joseph Farrell, Peter Levenda, Jim Marrs, even our own Bill Ryan have touched on the possibility of a Nazi-led 'Break-away Civilization' with operations on the Moon, Mars, and places beyond.

Our entire social structure is orchestrated by the compartmentalization of ideas, fueled by telepathic thought. This agenda has been going-on for thousands of years.

At the point one discovers that the influence of telepathic communication from hyperdimensional entities is nothing more than these Horus-Ra Archonic Alien Parasites controlling the Mass of Humanity with implanted thoughts, it then becomes not too difficult to realize this 'Break-away Civilization' (these researchers are speaking of) is nothing more than the vehicle on which the 'Chosen Few' will ride off-planet to be 'saved' by these soul-eating reptiles.

The agenda has been working over thousands of years. The archon/reptiles are very patient with their soul harvesting operation. They have been feeding from this soul farm for thousands of years.

Source research:
[This video may not seem at all related to the subject of this thread until you have viewed it through to the end, and processed the information. It's all about 'connecting the dots'.]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV6MVsmi6z8&list=WLBF8D2B8D1C1C62AB&index=93&feature=plpp_video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DV6MVsmi6z8

Just as the archons influenced the Nazis through the Vril, these same reptiles have been controlling the present circumstances through The Nine. It's all one seamless operation dating back thousands of years.

They are very clever at what they do....

[Bill Ryan]

Truman: Still reading your book... (vol I).

One comment: you write

Somewhere between 750 and 550 BC a Persian prophet -- an Aryan by
the name of Zoroaster -- created a new religion. His "Judgement Day"
prophecy was purportedly given to him personally by the one true God,
Ahura Mazda , a human-looking bearded god who traversed the heavens in
his winged disk.


In the interest of connecting dots:

Camelot's Henry Deacon sent me this image (not a real photo!) back in 2007, and said that the Anunnaki -- who he insisted were still active on and around Planet Earth in present time -- were masters of ritual and ceremony, and many of their craft had these winged appendages to them. Henry knew this.

My understanding (from Henry) was that the wings were retractable, ornamental/symbolic and non-functional -- possibly (purely my own conjecture) to impress local Earth inhabitants back in Sumerian times.

According to Henry (who knew this also), the Anunnaki are tall -- up to 8 feet high -- and enjoy wearing distinctive, ornate costumes and head-dresses. It's also my conjecture (which I think is very likely) that much of the pomp and ceremony and ritual, employed by royal families and in royal ceremonies throughout the planet in many different cultures, was derived or learned or copied from the Anunnaki.

Note that the word "Anunnaki" simply means "those who came from Heaven to Earth". It's not the name of a race, nor it is their own name for themselves. The name was essentially publicized by Sitchin in his books and then gained widespread use. Henry did not know (or never told us) where they came from.

(Houman will agree that they have not been riding around on an icy planetoid for the last 3,500 years waiting patiently for it to return nearer to Earth! They have their own sophisticated craft and can travel anywhere they want, whenever they choose.)

http://projectavalon.net/Winged_craft_similar_to_Anunnaki.jpg

[Houman]

According to Henry (who knew this also), the Anunnaki are tall -- up to 8 feet high -- and enjoy wearing distinctive, ornate costumes and head-dresses. It's also my conjecture (which I think is very likely) that much of the pomp and ceremony and ritual, employed by royal families and in royal ceremonies throughout the planet in many different cultures, was derived or learned or copied from the Anunnaki.

Speaking of the "divine right to rule" and the "headdresses" here is a bas relief representing the investiture of Ardashir I (left) by Ahura Mazda (right, with high crown) (Naqsh-e Rustam, 3rd c. CE)

http://teachmiddleeast.lib.uchicago.edu/foundations/middle-east-exporter-of-religion/images/religion-02.jpg


Here are Schythian headdresses
http://hal_macgregor.tripod.com/gregor/Scythians.jpg


Here is the crown of Shapour
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/library/english-library/images/K%20Shapur%20I%20lrg.jpeg



===

In the persian mythology civilization (art of writing, weaving, etc...) was literally taught to men by the kings of old. This is from the Shahnameh



Now Husheng was a wise man and just, and the heavens revolved over his throne forty years. justice did he spread over the land, and the world was better for his reign. For he first gave to men fire, and showed them how to draw it from out the stone; and he taught them how they might lead the rivers, that they should water the land and make it fertile; and he bade them till and reap. And he divided the beasts and paired them and gave them names. And when he passed to a brighter life he left the world empty of a throne of power. But Tahumers, his son, was not unworthy of his sire. He too opened the eyes of men, and they learned to spin and to weave; and he reigned over the land long and mightily. But of him also were the Deevs right envious, and sought to destroy him. Yet Tahumers overcame them and cast them to earth. Then some craved mercy at his hands, and sware how they would show him an art if he would spare them, and Tahumers listened to their voice. And they taught him the art of writing, and thus from the evil Deevs came a boon upon mankind.


...


When Zohak heard this he was filled with grief, and would have broken his oath, but Ahriman suffered him not, but made him set a trap for Mirtas. And Zohak and the evil Ahriman held their peace and Mirtas fell into the snare and was killed. Then Zohak placed the crown of Thasis upon his head, and Ahriman taught him the arts of magic, and he ruled over his people in good and evil, for he was not yet wholly given up to guile.


=====

Concerning the "engineering" of world events here is an interesting example:


"During the siege of Tyre in the year 332 BC, strange flying objects were observed. Johann Gustav Droysen in his History of Alexander the Great [Geschichte Alexanders des Grossen (1833)] does not cite it intentionally, believing it to be a fantasy of the Macedonian soldiers.
The fortress would not yield, its walls were fifty feet high and constructed so solidly that no siege-engine was able to damage it. The Tyrians disposed of the greatest technicians and builders of war-machines of the time and they intercepted in the air the incendiary arrows and projectiles hurled by the catapults on the city.
One day suddenly there appeared over the Macedonian camp these "flying shields", as they had been called, which flew in triangular formation led by an exceedingly large one, the others were smaller by almost a half. In all there were five. The unknown chronicler narrates that they circled slowly over Tyre while thousands of warriors on both sides stood and watched them in astonishment. Suddenly from the largest "shield" came a lightning-flash that struck the walls, these crumbled, other flashes followed and walls and towers dissolved, as if they had been built of mud, leaving the way open for the besiegers who poured like an avalanche through the breeches. The "flying shields" hovered over the city until it was completely stormed then they very swiftly disappeared aloft, soon melting into the blue sky."


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I am also attaching some figures representing the flag of cyrus, the royal ceremony associated with Darius

[Houman]

Underground Bases & Nephilim are Real - Insider

May 25, 2012

"If the world feels more evil today than it did 20
or 30 years ago, you are not imagining it."


Many people are talking about Nephilim, but are they ready to believe that the Nephilim are a reality? What if someone came forth to say that they know for a fact that the Nephilim are real, would this person be believed?
My bet is that people can talk all day long about Nephilim, but if someone came forward to say that they know from first-hand experience that the Nephilim do indeed exist today on earth, this person would not be believed.

Full article here: http://www.henrymakow.com/


http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3tkhdvScw1r2mqpmo1_1280.jpg

[Chester]

There are many researchers today who believe the Nazis created a 'break-away civilization' through the assistance of hyperdimensional entities known as the Giza Intelligence, who were 'channeled' by Maria Orsitsch (and others) from an inner circle of the Thule Society known as the Vril Society.

Many researchers including Dr. Joseph Farrell, Peter Levenda, Jim Marrs, even our own Bill Ryan have touched on the possibility of a Nazi-led 'Break-away Civilization' with operations on the Moon, Mars, and places beyond.

Our entire social structure is orchestrated by the compartmentalization of ideas, fueled by telepathic thought. This agenda has been going-on for thousands of years.

At the point one discovers that the influence of telepathic communication from hyperdimensional entities is nothing more than these Horus-Ra Archonic Alien Parasites controlling the Mass of Humanity with implanted thoughts, it then becomes not too difficult to realize this 'Break-away Civilization' (these researchers are speaking of) is nothing more than the vehicle on which the 'Chosen Few' will ride off-planet to be 'saved' by these soul-eating reptiles.

The agenda has been working over thousands of years. The archon/reptiles are very patient with their soul harvesting operation. They have been feeding from this soul farm for thousands of years.

Source research:
[This video may not seem at all related to the subject of this thread until you have viewed it through to the end, and processed the information. It's all about 'connecting the dots'.]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV6MVsmi6z8&list=WLBF8D2B8D1C1C62AB&index=93&feature=plpp_video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DV6MVsmi6z8

Just as the archons influenced the Nazis through the Vril, these same reptiles have been controlling the present circumstances through The Nine. It's all one seamless operation dating back thousands of years.

They are very clever at what they do....

observer - nothing comes even close to ringing true like what you stated above and like what you have proposed in several of your latest posts.

I know this may be difficult for some to consider and I know that I may get ostracized from putting the following forth... but if I had to make a bet as to Yes or No to the following... I would bet Yes - so here is the following. Please, understand my preoccupation with Yeshua/Jesus is based on my own messianic complex programming with Jesus as my avatar.

The man that lived that became the Jesus of legends (perhaps this was the one many refer to as Yeshua) was just a man that was probably of the right blood line mix to be susceptible to archontic influence had been trained in one or more mystery schools and then went rogue. He had a conflict within (his own soul battle) and reached a point where he didn't care what "they" may do to him and so he started going public with his views.

The ET intelligences took advantage of the situation and used their "reality manipulation" technology (which is just manipulation of minds such that a "collective hallucination" could occur) at times where varying numbers of people would be present as witnesses to these events such that these events would be deemed as miracles. And that these miracles were viewed as "performed" by Jesus such that Jesus would be viewed as a God incarnate or something along those lines. This considers the possibility that Jesus could be viewed as one of the saviors prophesied to come by Zoroaster as we are aware of the Zoroastrian influence amongst the various factions that were at play at the time and location the Jesus legends sprang forth.

This suggests that Yeshua may have possibly been a victim to some extent of his own ego battle yet at the same time an exceptionally brave (or perhaps foolish) man that attempted to defy the secrecy vows by going public with his "sacred" knowledge/insights.

Special savior types (such as Jesus) and/or special contactees (such as Zoroaster and Joseph Smith) seem to pour gas on the fire (the constantly burning fire of the need for a religious type of explanation by the masses to explain the unexplained as well as to give the masses hope) and that these types, saviors and/or specially chosen ones (also like Enoch and Moses and Mohamed just to list a few more) keep popping up throughout the commonly known history suggests to me the likelihood that all these types of experiences are under a single umbrella - this from just one point of view.

Not that all ET/ED interaction is necessarily negative, though this may be the case.

What if the entire physical realm is a loosh farm and not just planet earth?

What if anything that incarnates into physical form is a "spirit" with an additional component that transcends physical mortality, the soul? And it is the soul which other spirits attempt to hijack?

I do not rule out anything, but when I consider "good" ETs / "bad" ETs then it seems logical to me that the only good ETs there may be would either have kicked archontic ass long ago (in the beginning) or remain completely removed from a situation unless and until that situation posses a threat to the good ETs. Having said that, why wouldn't the good ETs just blow away any sector of the universe that appears to be a potential threat?

So considering that, we knee jerk respond with this - the good ETs want us to resolve our problems ourselves as we all need to spiritually evolve naturally, independently of any outside influence (ala the Star Trek directive)... and so if that is the case, and there are positive ETs, I see no excuse they waited to help humanity on earth until now (as some suggest) and thus any ET/ED involvement, including EDs who channel... this seems logically to be part of the scam.

My conclusion along these lines is that we are spirits trapped in the material (which is our soul component) and that spirits that have not incarnated (and thus have never had a soul and are perhaps immortal) may be part of the universal mix but stay out of our realm as it's our business. And that spirits who involve themselves in our realm may be spirits that at one time entered into the material realm which gave them a soul, but through their own process of evolution have found themselves losing their ability to reproduce (as is a theory about some of the Greys) and that their belief system is that if they cannot reproduce within their DNA line, they fear their species' collective soul would perish forever. Thus they set up these soul farms and make deals with world governments such that they can harvest not only souls, but the physical body materials because they believe they have to for their own species survival.

Some have suggested these grey beings are humans from the future who fear they placed themselves in an evolutionary trap which is headed for an inevitable extinction of the species and through time travel technology have come back for several reasons, one is to try and change their fate and another is to feed upon their former species (or use the genetic material from their former species) just to survive.

So now consider this view...

the Creator (source) creates - these creations are children of source and are carbon copies, perfect, immortal and eternal - beings of spirit, mind and form (as form must exist within any type of plurality)

Then the children collectively create the "material realm" which by default creates mortality. Those who chose to enter this realm are choosing a mortal experience yet are still immortal spirits. This is the creation of the soul... the component that transcends death that is carried forth to the spirit's next experience, which theoretically could simply remain in the spirit only realm, why not.

Now, within the material realm are children who, for whatever reason, have followed a path where they focused their attention upon their own imaginations such that they lost sight of their true, inherent spiritual nature as a child of Creation.

These could be the Archons and/or the entire Archontic structure.

And they may have reached a point where their extinction (at least from their point of view) is inevitable and thus we have these "soul, mind and physical matter farms" like it appears earth may be one today. Perhaps they are so far gone into the material realm, they are unable to believe in their eternal spirit or that they simply are so attached to the realm of form, they do not want to return to a spirit only reality.

So because of their own obsession with saving themselves, they have created within innocent humanity the sub consciously driven belief in the need for a savior and have found technologies where souls can be captured and recycled back into the farm such that the soul never reaches its maturity - a maturity that allows a soul being the capability of incarnating elsewhere or no longer incarnating at all which would be a reverting back to its souless state of spirit, mind and form.

Anyways... there is the latest channeling from myself hahaha or better put, my theory of the day inspired by this thread and by observer's (and also Amzer Zo's) posts.

Again, apologies to anyone who I may offend with regards to my Jesus theory (again just a theory of the day).

Ohhh, I have to add this as I have posted about the "Christ Consciousness" energies I call "the Shine." It seems all children of creation have direct access to this which can be experienced by all the bodies - astral, mental, etheric and physical (as well as any other perceived bodies I did not list).

But that comes direct from creation (source) and is inherent and directly accessible by any child of creation... many of us have a hard time accessing the shine on this particular farm at this particular time.

It is this specific natural capability that it appears the PTBs want to all but 100% cut us off from. I suggest not fully 100% because this shine thing seems to be part of their food supply (and may actually be the juiciest thing they eat from their point of view).

justone

[TrumanCash]

Truman: I have two questions for you at this stage if you are okay with it.

1 Are you still being abducted?

2.a If no, how did you stop it? (or did it stop on its own?)

2.b If yes, did you try Dr Malanga's SIMBAD technique?

Houman

I have not tried Dr. Malanga's SIMBAD technique as I am not familiar with it.

However, I have achieved recent success in getting a brain implant removed and I have not been abducted since then. This was the same type of brain implant that I talked about in the EYE OF RA in the "Journey to Discovery" chapter. It is a horrible implant that Grays insert between my eyebrows above the bridge of my nose. It is a physical implant that goes directly into my brain. They've done this to me twice before.

For the past several years I have only experienced about one abduction every two years. During the mid-90s when I was first implanted with this brain implant I was experiencing as many as two or three abductions per week.

However, things changed several months ago and I began to be abducted about once a month (on average) and it appears that abductions in general have increased lately for some other abductees. My recent abductions started around the first of December 2011. I was implanted again with a physical brain implant, the one that goes between my eyebrows above the bridge of my nose. I was having a pretty tough time with it.

Here's what happened: I was abducted on February 29, 2012. Sperm was taken with one of their devices. I also went nose to nose, as it were, with a tall Gray and gave him a piece of my mind. I was implanted again on that night with the brain implant.

What had happened is that I got up in the night to go to the bathroom. I sat down on the toilet and then was floated up into the ship. After the sperm collection, confrontation and implantation I was floated back down on the toilet.

When I stood up and walked out of the bathroom I became dizzy and then collapsed unconscious on the kitchen floor. It was a wooden floor so I hit hard, fell over a chair, injuring my ribs, and hit my head on the floor. I went unconscious for a bit less than a minute according to a witness who had entered the room right after I fell. When I came to I didn't know who I was or where I was. It took me about a half hour or so to regain my memory. This was the second worst abduction that I have experienced this lifetime.

I was abducted again on March 25, 2012. As usual, sperm was taken. It was a particularly rough abduction, physically speaking, as my left side and lower back were injured. On March 24th, before the abduction, the Grays turned up the heat, so to speak, on my brain implant, causing excessive and unnatural drowsiness and a dull headache. This condition persisted through the following day. I therefore slept during the day and basically took it easy. I could actually feel the location of the physical implant centered in the front portion of my brain behind my forehead. I tried to read but found it very difficult to do so.

However, in April I initiated telepathic contact with the Grey that implanted me. It could also be described as remote viewing as I could vaguely "see" what was going on as well. I have had conscious telepathic contact once before with a Grey. Read "Journey to Discovery" for the details.

This Grey felt bad about implanting me but he indicated that it was his job and he had to answer to his superiors. I asked if he could remove the brain implant and I promised not be a problem for them in the future as I regain my spiritual abilities. He had to ask his superiors and finally got the okay to remove the implant. It was removed! Yahoo! However, the night that it was removed I was a bit resistive because I thought they were going to implant me again. Anyway, they took it out and I am now friends with the Grey that implanted me. I call him "Arnie".

I did not do this by myself. I was helped by two very experienced people who had been personally trained by L. Ron Hubbard. However, these two people are not members of the Church of Scientology nor am I. The techniques that I learned to recover my abduction memories as well as past life memories were also developed by Mr. Hubbard. I used the techniques in two of Mr. Hubbard's books--DIANETICS, THE MODERN SCIENCE OF MENTAL HEALTH (1950) and SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL (1951). As I mentioned in the EYE OF RA, I also once used what I call "light trance hypnosis" to verify some of my memories. It was not anything like stage hypnotism but was mostly just a relaxation technique.

I can also remember abduction incidents by simply relaxing in a quiet room without any distractions and focusing my attention on the incident. In other words I don't have to use any techniques at all--I just look at the incident.

I did not specifically ask for a complete cessation of abductions recently--just removal of the brain implant. However, I have not been abducted since the removal of the brain implant in April. Whether the abductions have permanently ceased or not remains to be seen. I certainly hope they have. However, if the abductions continue I plan to initiate telepathic contact again for the purpose of permanently ending the abductions.

Truman L. Cash

[Daughter of Time]

Truman: I have two questions for you at this stage if you are okay with it.

1 Are you still being abducted?

2.a If no, how did you stop it? (or did it stop on its own?)

2.b If yes, did you try Dr Malanga's SIMBAD technique?

Houman

I have not tried Dr. Malanga's SIMBAD technique as I am not familiar with it.

However, I have achieved recent success in getting a brain implant removed and I have not been abducted since then. This was the same type of brain implant that I talked about in the EYE OF RA in the "Journey to Discovery" chapter. It is a horrible implant that Grays insert between my eyebrows above the bridge of my nose. It is a physical implant that goes directly into my brain. They've done this to me twice before.

For the past several years I have only experienced about one abduction every two years. During the mid-90s when I was first implanted with this brain implant I was experiencing as many as two or three abductions per week.

However, things changed several months ago and I began to be abducted about once a month (on average) and it appears that abductions in general have increased lately for some other abductees. My recent abductions started around the first of December 2011. I was implanted again with a physical brain implant, the one that goes between my eyebrows above the bridge of my nose. I was having a pretty tough time with it.

Here's what happened: I was abducted on February 29, 2012. Sperm was taken with one of their devices. I also went nose to nose, as it were, with a tall Gray and gave him a piece of my mind. I was implanted again on that night with the brain implant.

What had happened is that I got up in the night to go to the bathroom. I sat down on the toilet and then was floated up into the ship. After the sperm collection, confrontation and implantation I was floated back down on the toilet.

When I stood up and walked out of the bathroom I became dizzy and then collapsed unconscious on the kitchen floor. It was a wooden floor so I hit hard, fell over a chair, injuring my ribs, and hit my head on the floor. I went unconscious for a bit less than a minute according to a witness who had entered the room right after I fell. When I came to I didn't know who I was or where I was. It took me about a half hour or so to regain my memory. This was the second worst abduction that I have experienced this lifetime.

I was abducted again on March 25, 2012. As usual, sperm was taken. It was a particularly rough abduction, physically speaking, as my left side and lower back were injured. On March 24th, before the abduction, the Grays turned up the heat, so to speak, on my brain implant, causing excessive and unnatural drowsiness and a dull headache. This condition persisted through the following day. I therefore slept during the day and basically took it easy. I could actually feel the location of the physical implant centered in the front portion of my brain behind my forehead. I tried to read but found it very difficult to do so.

However, in April I initiated telepathic contact with the Grey that implanted me. It could also be described as remote viewing as I could vaguely "see" what was going on as well. I have had conscious telepathic contact once before with a Grey. Read "Journey to Discovery" for the details.

This Grey felt bad about implanting me but he indicated that it was his job and he had to answer to his superiors. I asked if he could remove the brain implant and I promised not be a problem for them in the future as I regain my spiritual abilities. He had to ask his superiors and finally got the okay to remove the implant. It was removed! Yahoo! However, the night that it was removed I was a bit resistive because I thought they were going to implant me again. Anyway, they took it out and I am now friends with the Grey that implanted me. I call him "Arnie".

I did not do this by myself. I was helped by two very experienced people who had been personally trained by L. Ron Hubbard. However, these two people are not members of the Church of Scientology nor am I. The techniques that I learned to recover my abduction memories as well as past life memories were also developed by Mr. Hubbard. I used the techniques in two of Mr. Hubbard's books--DIANETICS, THE MODERN SCIENCE OF MENTAL HEALTH (1950) and SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL (1951). As I mentioned in the EYE OF RA, I also once used what I call "light trance hypnosis" to verify some of my memories. It was not anything like stage hypnotism but was mostly just a relaxation technique.

I can also remember abduction incidents by simply relaxing in a quiet room without any distractions and focusing my attention on the incident. In other words I don't have to use any techniques at all--I just look at the incident.

I did not specifically ask for a complete cessation of abductions recently--just removal of the brain implant. However, I have not been abducted since the removal of the brain implant in April. Whether the abductions have permanently ceased or not remains to be seen. I certainly hope they have. However, if the abductions continue I plan to initiate telepathic contact again for the purpose of permanently ending the abductions.

Truman L. Cash

Truman,

Thank you so much for this extremely valuable post. I am very grateful to you.

The issue of removing the implants i have in my brain and my left ear has been of tremendous concern for me as they are causing too many unpleasant symptoms. Medically, there is nothing wrong with me and I certainly don't show any signs of illness, but the symptoms are nasty.

I already own the books by L. Ron Hubbard which you mentioned above. I will get a copy of EYE OF RA. And whether Dr. Malanga's theory on frequencies works or not, I have started listening to Solfeggio sounds of 600+ Herz. The sounds feel like they create a shield around me.

Also many thanks to the contributors of this thread and to Project Avalon.

[Hervé]

Underground Bases & Nephilim are Real - Insider

May 25, 2012

"If the world feels more evil today than it did 20
or 30 years ago, you are not imagining it."


Many people are talking about Nephilim, but are they ready to believe that the Nephilim are a reality? What if someone came forth to say that they know for a fact that the Nephilim are real, would this person be believed?
My bet is that people can talk all day long about Nephilim, but if someone came forward to say that they know from first-hand experience that the Nephilim do indeed exist today on earth, this person would not be believed.

Full article here: http://www.henrymakow.com/


http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3tkhdvScw1r2mqpmo1_1280.jpg

That's quite a first-hand experience you are displaying there Houman... is it yours?

[Houman]

Underground Bases & Nephilim are Real - Insider

May 25, 2012

"If the world feels more evil today than it did 20
or 30 years ago, you are not imagining it."


Many people are talking about Nephilim, but are they ready to believe that the Nephilim are a reality? What if someone came forth to say that they know for a fact that the Nephilim are real, would this person be believed?
My bet is that people can talk all day long about Nephilim, but if someone came forward to say that they know from first-hand experience that the Nephilim do indeed exist today on earth, this person would not be believed.

Full article here: http://www.henrymakow.com/


http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3tkhdvScw1r2mqpmo1_1280.jpg

That's quite a first-hand experience you are displaying there Houman... is it yours?


Not my hand... not my experience...


...this picture came out of a satanist's site... it was not alone... the other ones are too "gore" to post... they appear to involve "people" (babies included) before and after sacrifice... some held in prisoners... etc...

Look at the size of the proximal phalanx of the middle finger and recall this post...http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=477252&viewfull=1#post477252

(from Linda Stone http://www.thefamilytreeandsatanism.com/)


Hannah said, “He was probably a nephilim, especially since Steven was so excited. A nephilim is born when a human woman is bred with a demon in a satanic ritual. Conception is very rare and a live human birth is even more rare. Satanists revere these half-human, half-demon
creatures.” “What do they look like, Hannah? Like the creature-demons in the pentagram in Jordan’s living room?” She answered, “They look like normal humans, except something on their body is excessively large. Perhaps a nose, or hands, or an unseen body part. They always have an excessively large body part. The demons in Jordan’s living room were complete demons. They were not the nephilim, such as Steven took you to see.”


...

from http://www.henrymakow.com/

Underground Bases & Nephilim are Real - Insider


NEPHILIM

The idea of "Nephilim" is the composite of hybridization, not only that of physical DNA, but that of a "spiritual" hybridization, the combining of human DNA and spirit with that of another "spirit" creation that does not appear to us to exist on this physical earth.
...
Someone recently asked me if I, in my lifetime have witnessed supernatural manifestations or ritual magic. My first thought was, yes, everyday from as long as I can remember, for the entire duration that I worked for the powers of darkness.

My next thought was, that I never thought the term "magic" applied to anything I ever did or experienced, that when one understands the supernatural, there is nothing magical or mysterious about it. Everything is self explanatory. So it is with the topic of what the "Nephilim" are, and whether this type of hybridization is even possible.

The topic of Nephilim is only a small part of my life experiences of serving in what I call "the organization". The project of creating physical bodies for a dark spiritual hierarchy is real. It was real enough and disturbing enough for me that I gave up my entire life, my identity, all that I and my family believed in and had worked for all of our lives.

The project of the creating these composites is literally where the supernatural evil rubber meets the physical road.

So, if the world feels more evil today than it did 20 or 30 years ago, you are not imagining it.

The presence of evil on this earth has been stepped up for the last phase of "The Plan". This presence is greater than a supernatural evil presence one may sense, but not see. We now have among us evil representatives in physical forms that do indeed look human, but are not.

They are a combination of the human and "supernatural" that are able to operate in both realms. I know that at face value it sounds like fantasy, but in time you will be shown that it is not fantasy at all.

These evil forms are all in preparation for this last phase of "The Plan", which is much more than a physical plan for global dominance over humanity.

[Houman]

and in case you missed it in these previous posts: pay attention to the hands
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0uje42H6V1qdzczno1_1280.png

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvoxdwGQsF1qelzkto1_500.jpg


look towards the left of her head

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxcvgrCapc1qb2cuvo1_1280.png

[jorr lundstrom]

This is number one of three discussions about psychopaths, and especially
on how to handle the psychopaths ie the intraspecies predators. There are
a lot about the Archons in these discussions. Thomas Malone from Grok the talk,
Thomas Sheridan and John Lamb Lash are the ones discussing.



http://www.blogtalkradio.com/grok-the-talk/2012/04/13/handling-the-psychopaths-with-thomas-sheridan-and-john-lash

Here is number two



http://www.blogtalkradio.com/grok-the-talk/2012/04/26/handling-psychopaths-2-with-thomas-sheridan-and-john-lash-1

and here number three



http://www.blogtalkradio.com/grok-the-talk/2012/05/22/handling-psychopaths-3-with-thomas-sheridan-and-john-lash-1


All is well


Jorr

[Chester]

Fascinating... and some of the questions are - if we are open minded that there be these types of hybrids - that are Human / Nephilims - could there also be Human / Other "spirit" being hybrids... and then of course we can go further with that but staying within the realm of the above, then that implies we may have on earth two or three groups -

a.) Human

b.) Human/Nephilim (and we determine these are malevolent from a purely group A POV)

and then with the above consideration of a group

c.) Human/Other "spirit" beings (that are benevolent from the POV of group A)

This, for me is the big question I can't answer for myself to my satisfaction...

is it A and B or is it possibly A, B and C

There has been zero evidence of a group C yet all sorts of folks believe in one or more C group entities that have either lived and/or are alive today.

The dilemma lies in the question of how would we know a group C entity is not simply a disguised group B entity?

Imagine a grand celestial war really happening on earth between group B and group C where group A humans are simply suppliers of the physical framework and otherwise collateral damage to the group B and even possibly group C entities though at least the group C entities might perhaps weep for us group A plain ole humans.

Personally, it seems to me the wisest assumption is that there is just group A and group B.

Betting on that there may be a group C opens one up to the potential to rely on a group C... just what the group B entities may want.

Regardless - the presence of group B on earth at this time must absolutely be the very most important factor for humanity at this time and in humanity's future.

If the only thing that can be done is to bring this all to the awareness of the rest of humanity, then so be it. Almost every other conceivable proactive decision seems to have too much potential for flaws.

Houman once mentioned that Dr. Malanga suggested the solution lies in the hundredth monkey. That boils down to awareness so that means we have to work hard at spreading the word, extremely difficult.

Wouldn't it be great if we had a website that existed which explained the issue in simpler terms, in a way the uninformed reader would at least be likely to explore deeper into the site and/or at least open their mind to the possibility? Its hard enough getting folks to consider any of this stuff... and then we have the believers in group C which may or may not exist.

If group C does not exist (but is instead group B types pretending to be group C), this makes it super hard! damn...

I have yet to hear anyone's testimony that they have had both abduction experiences (group B type interactions) and group C encounters. It always seems its one or the other. An example of encounters with group C types (as claimed by the experiencers) is Drunvalo.

I am gonna try and contact him just to see how he reacts to this dilemma... all I ever heard from him is his experiences with the "angels."

[Chester]

Truman,

Thank you so much for this extremely valuable post. I am very grateful to you.

The issue of removing the implants i have in my brain and my left ear has been of tremendous concern for me as they are causing too many unpleasant symptoms. Medically, there is nothing wrong with me and I certainly don't show any signs of illness, but the symptoms are nasty.

I already own the books by L. Ron Hubbard which you mentioned above. I will get a copy of EYE OF RA. And whether Dr. Malanga's theory on frequencies works or not, I have started listening to Solfeggio sounds of 600+ Herz. The sounds feel like they create a shield around me.

Also many thanks to the contributors of this thread and to Project Avalon.

WoW Daughter of Time - implants... please tell the experience you have here. Do you remember getting these implants? Are these physical implants? Please, tell more... thanks justone

[Dennis Leahy]

...
If the only thing that can be done is to bring this all to the awareness of the rest of humanity, then so be it. Almost every other conceivable proactive decision seems to have too much potential for flaws.

Houman once mentioned that Dr. Malanga suggested the solution lies in the hundredth monkey. That boils down to awareness so that means we have to work hard at spreading the word, extremely difficult.

...(not just directed to 'justoneman', but spurred by his comment)
What then is the proposed "solution?" Is there a consensus from folks like Truman Cash as to a plan to subvert their "Plan?" Any "solution" or "counter-plan" had better not be having all of humanity aware and/or singing the same note. Probably 0.000001% of humanity* is aware of any of this. The vast majority of humanity is in mundane, survival mode and not connected in any sort of intelligent network that they are aware of or can control.

Dennis

{edit to add}
*(I include myself in the group that is unaware. I read this stuff, and all due respect to Truman and Bill and others that have been abducted, this all reads like a comic book or a sci-fi movie script to me. It isn't real to me. It is interesting, but I just can't merely "accept" it as real or "believe" because of someone's testimony. So again, if this is real, then a solution for ridding the planet of these entities is probably not within the capabilities of an almost uniformly unaware and mundane humanity. A solution to rid this planet of these entities - and keep them away - would probably rest in the hands of some sort of powerful and benevolent ET/ED entities, which is, to me at this point, a sci-fi solution to a sci-fi problem.)

[jorr lundstrom]

justoneman wrote:


If the only thing that can be done is to bring this all to the awareness of the rest of humanity, then so be it. Almost every other conceivable proactive decision seems to have too much potential for flaws.

Houman once mentioned that Dr. Malanga suggested the solution lies in the hundredth monkey. That boils down to awareness so that means we have to work hard at spreading the word, extremely difficult.



If the solution lies in the hundreth monkey, lets try to find that
monkey. Just kidding.

Actually those Japanese Makaks started to washing their potatoes
at the same time ie when the critical mass was reached. Did the
monkeys become more aware? No, they just started to wash
their potatoes.

This is about doing, not being. Im not so sure the hundred monkey
effect works when it comes to human awareness. Thats about being
not doing.

Maharishis gang did the experiment with mass mediatation and concluded
that the crimes in the area diminished a lot as an effect of this. Thats also
about doing or not doing ie not comitting any crime. Its not in any way
proved that the criminals became more aware or more intelligent.

Just sayin.......


All is well


Jorr

[Houman]

...
If the only thing that can be done is to bring this all to the awareness of the rest of humanity, then so be it. Almost every other conceivable proactive decision seems to have too much potential for flaws.

Houman once mentioned that Dr. Malanga suggested the solution lies in the hundredth monkey. That boils down to awareness so that means we have to work hard at spreading the word, extremely difficult.

...(not just directed to 'justoneman', but spurred by his comment)
What then is the proposed "solution?" Is there a consensus from folks like Truman Cash as to a plan to subvert their "Plan?" Any "solution" or "counter-plan" had better not be having all of humanity aware and/or singing the same note. Probably 0.000001% of humanity* is aware of any of this. The vast majority of humanity is in mundane, survival mode and not connected in any sort of intelligent network that they are aware of or can control.

Dennis

{edit to add}
*(I include myself in the group that is unaware. I read this stuff, and all due respect to Truman and Bill and others that have been abducted, this all reads like a comic book or a sci-fi movie script to me. It isn't real to me. It is interesting, but I just can't merely "accept" it as real or "believe" because of someone's testimony. So again, if this is real, then a solution for ridding the planet of these entities is probably not within the capabilities of an almost uniformly unaware and mundane humanity. A solution to rid this planet of these entities - and keep them away - would probably rest in the hands of some sort of powerful and benevolent ET/ED entities, which is, to me at this point, a sci-fi solution to a sci-fi problem.)


Is that real enough?

(potentially distressing images)
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1ddaiZbRY1qhwveto1_r2_500.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr33c1GPQi1qezsxso1_500.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljxd25CmiQ1qzc1u8o1_500.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4f9zzzSRM1rvpkyso1_500.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m010bjJ7es1qguavso1_1280.jpg

[Chester]

justoneman wrote:


If the only thing that can be done is to bring this all to the awareness of the rest of humanity, then so be it. Almost every other conceivable proactive decision seems to have too much potential for flaws.


Houman once mentioned that Dr. Malanga suggested the solution lies in the hundredth monkey. That boils down to awareness so that means we have to work hard at spreading the word, extremely difficult.



If the solution lies in the hundreth monkey, lets try to find that
monkey. Just kidding.

Actually those Japanese Makaks started to washing their potatoes
at the same time ie when the critical mass was reached. Did the
monkeys become more aware? No, they just started to wash
their potatoes.

This is about doing, not being. Im not so sure the hundred monkey
effect works when it comes to human awareness. Thats about being
not doing.

Maharishis gang did the experiment with mass mediatation and concluded
that the crimes in the area diminished a lot as an effect of this. Thats also
about doing or not doing ie not comitting any crime. Its not in any way
proved that the criminals became more aware or more intelligent.

Just sayin.......


All is well


Jorr

Honestly, that's the same way I feel - the problem is... who/what will take over if we got rid of the current powers that be?

But I lean your way Jorr - you would think we, humanity, some of us of the group A set, somehow, someway gotta turn the tides on this stuff... but how? wish Houman would create a solutions, exploration thread.

added:

WoW... just saw some of the latest pics from Houman - unfreaking real BUt I know this is going on - and I also know Houman is still holding way, way back.

[jorr lundstrom]

justoneman. If you are talking about a new group of people in

power, I wanna say I dont need anyone to babysit me. I just

wanna live life and be left alone. i can take care of myself. I

can take responsibility for myself. Those who are afraid of

life, of living always want someone to blame for everything,

then they either play the victim role or the perpetrator role.

A new system, with a new group of people who hungers after

power over others wount solve anything, just a new bunch of

disrespecful idiots to keep at an armlengths distance. LOL


All is well


Jorr

[Chester]

justoneman. If you are talking about a new group of people in

power, I wanna say I dont need anyone to babysit me. I just

wanna live life and be left alone. i can take care of myself. I

can take responsibility for myself. Those who are afraid of

life, of living always want someone to blame for everything,

then they either play the victim role or the perpetrator role.

A new system, with a new group of people who hungers after

power over others wount solve anything, just a new bunch of

disrespecful idiots to keep at an armlengths distance. LOL


All is well


Jorr

Agree (and was my point) - absolutely not talking some new group in power... and this is the dilemma -

We should at least try to explore a solutions thread, even if it gets buried in the desert like the Nag Hammadi texts... maybe a future generation will discover what we left them and maybe it might help....


I honestly have no clues other than what Houman is doing - putting the information forth in our awareness... but like Dennis pointed out - .0000000001% may become aware of it and that's probably not going to cut it. Damn!

Maybe mother nature takes care of it all for us... would be ironic if the sun fried the sun god worshipers (though my family would be fried as well and that's what destroys me inside, not doing anything that might help my family and loved ones). Damn!

[jorr lundstrom]

Is that real enough?




If people do wot the archons or the neighbor or their boss or

their superior or whosoever wispers in their ears to do. Its

still people who do this things to other people.


All is well


Jorr

[jorr lundstrom]

Well John Lash in this discussion suggests that we take out the

intraspecies predatots ie the psychopats ie those who do wot they

can to kill humanity and everything else on the planet. Maybe it

all boils down to this. Them or the rest of us, choose. There is

no beautiful solution to humanities most urgent problem. And

its probably just the way it should be. Link to the discussion below


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45632-Handling-psychopaths&p=495974#post495974


All is well


Jorr

[Dennis Leahy]

If those images are not staged, what would "prove" that it isn't the work of humans - plain old, psychopathic humans? In fact, that is definitely the ("art" or real) work of psychopathic humans - whether the voice(s) they hear in their head is their own or from another entity. I do believe most humans are generally good, decent beings, but that there are some severely depraved, sick, twisted minds fully capable of torture - and that it is their own mind, they do not get to blame it on "aliens."

You completely misread my post, and your attempt to shock me with gore missed its mark. Whether the images are real or fake, they are beyond disgusting and have nothing to do with the question that I posed: What then is the proposed "solution?" I'll stay out of your thread now. Thanks anyway.

Dennis

[Houman]

Then you would have to take down a significant number of people with multiple alters... divide and conquer at his best... more bloodshed would only feed the dragon...



Well John Lash in this discussion suggests that we take out the

intraspecies predatots ie the psychopats ie those who do wot they

can to kill humanity and everything else on the planet. Maybe it

all boils down to this. Them or the rest of us, choose. There is

no beautiful solution to humanities most urgent problem. And

its probably just the way it should be. Link to the discussion below


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45632-Handling-psychopaths&p=495974#post495974


All is well


Jorr

[Houman]

If those images are not staged, what would "prove" that it isn't the work of humans - plain old, psychopathic humans? In fact, that is definitely the ("art" or real) work of psychopathic humans - whether the voice(s) they hear in their head is their own or from another entity. I do believe most humans are generally good, decent beings, but that there are some severely depraved, sick, twisted minds fully capable of torture - and that it is their own mind, they do not get to blame it on "aliens."

You completely misread my post, and your attempt to shock me with gore missed its mark. Whether the images are real or fake, they are beyond disgusting and have nothing to do with the question that I posed: What then is the proposed "solution?" I'll stay out of your thread now. Thanks anyway.

Dennis


... now you know...

from http://commonsensepoliticalthought.com/?p=13407

“We didn’t know!”

Practically an entire nation said that about what was going on within their own nation. Within miles of their own homes. Practically out in the open. Because they didn’t want to know. A whole nation of “plausible deniability.” How could this have happened? What turned so many people into such monsters? What turned millions more people into complicit enablers of the monsters? That couldn’t happen to us, could it?

Target a group of people, blame them for holding people down, turn them into non-persons, turn society against them, then exterminate them all legal-like. Hitler’s Nazi Germany exterminated these “non-persons” by the millions. The “scientist” Mengele did all manner of gruesome “experiments” on them, torturing them to death.


as for attempting to shock you... how to say this... what you have seen is only the tip of the iceberg...

[jorr lundstrom]

Then you would have to take down a significant number of people with multiple alters... divide and conquer at his best... more bloodshed would only feed the dragon...



Well John Lash in this discussion suggests that we take out the

intraspecies predatots ie the psychopats ie those who do wot they

can to kill humanity and everything else on the planet. Maybe it

all boils down to this. Them or the rest of us, choose. There is

no beautiful solution to humanities most urgent problem. And

its probably just the way it should be. Link to the discussion below


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45632-Handling-psychopaths&p=495974#post495974


All is well


Jorr


Yeah, maybe better to right them a petition asking them if they

could please stop work against life on planet earth, killing them

would probably hurt their feelings too. Maybe better to let them

roll out their global genocide agenda. Maybe someone have a

brilliant plan that transforms psychopaths into empathic humans

who live respectfully together with non- psychopaths. There seem

to be a lot of people, who goes for grownups who havent let go

of Santa.


All is well


Jorr

[Houman]

Yeah, maybe better to right them a petition asking them if they

could please stop work against life on planet earth, killing them

would probably hurt their feelings too. Maybe better to let them

roll out their global genocide agenda. Maybe someone have a

brilliant plan that transforms psychopaths into empathic humans

who live respectfully together with non- psychopaths. There seem

to be a lot of people, who goes for grownups who havent let go

of Santa.


All is well


Jorr

As long as you keep seeing "simple humans/people" behind this you will keep running in circles...

these psychopaths are the symptoms of the disease not its cause...

[Chester]

If those images are not staged, what would "prove" that it isn't the work of humans - plain old, psychopathic humans? In fact, that is definitely the ("art" or real) work of psychopathic humans - whether the voice(s) they hear in their head is their own or from another entity. I do believe most humans are generally good, decent beings, but that there are some severely depraved, sick, twisted minds fully capable of torture - and that it is their own mind, they do not get to blame it on "aliens."

You completely misread my post, and your attempt to shock me with gore missed its mark. Whether the images are real or fake, they are beyond disgusting and have nothing to do with the question that I posed: What then is the proposed "solution?" I'll stay out of your thread now. Thanks anyway.

Dennis

From my understanding - this is multi-level.

It is the work of human beings caught up in satanism

It is the work of human/nephilim hybreds

It is the work of greys

and possibly it is the work of other off world species, possibly "reptilians" and "draconians"

in addition, there is even the possibility that there are non physical entities that enter the minds of any of the above - some are simply single celled or first stage embryonic beings

and it is possible that it is the highest level of the archontic structure that intervenes in the perceived reality - that level would be the archons themselves (some legends state their are 7) -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archon

Yaldabaoth, called also Saklas and Samael
Saturn.
Feminine name: Pronoia (Forethought) Sambathas, "week".
Prophets:[9] Moses, Joshua, Amos, Habakkuk.
From Hebrew yalda bahut, "Child of Chaos"? The outermost who created the six others, and therefore the chief ruler and Demiurge par excellence. Called "the Lion-faced", leontoeides.
Iao
Jupiter.
Feminine name: Lordship.
Prophets: Samuel, Nathan, Jonah, Micah.
Perhaps from Yahu, Yahweh, but possibly also from the magic cry iao in the Mysteries.
Sabaoth
Mars.
Feminine name: Deity.
Prophets: Elijah, Joel, Zechariah.
The Old Testament title God of Hosts was thought a proper name, hence Jupiter Sabbas (Yahweh Sabaoth).
Astaphanos, or Astaphaios
Venus.
Feminine name: Sophia (Wisdom).
Prophets: Esdras, Zephaniah.
Astraphaios is beyond doubt the planet Venus, as there are gnostic gems with a female figure and the legend ASTAPHE, which name is also used in magic spells as the name of a goddess.
Adonaios
The Sun.
Feminine name: Kingship.
Prophets: Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Daniel.
From the Hebrew term for "the Lord", used of God; Adonis of the Syrians representing the Winter sun in the cosmic tragedy of Tammuz. In the Mandaean system Adonaios represents the Sun.
Elaios, or Ailoaios, or sometimes Ailoein
Mercury.
Feminine name: Jealousy.
Prophets: Tobias, Haggai.
From Elohim, God (El).
Horaios
The Moon.
Feminine name: Wealth.
Prophets: Michaiah, Nahum.
From Jaroah? or "light"? or Horus?

Note - some "dragon traditions" consider the universe created by a "primal dragon" - the chief architect (the demiurge)

This being - as depicted by the Yazidi, started with the Peacock Angel - "Melek Taus" -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidi

"In the Yazidi belief system, God created the world and it is now in the care of a Heptad of seven Holy Beings, often known as Angels or heft sirr (the Seven Mysteries)."

Notice how all these systems have 7 primal entities.

Notice how there are 7 primary "archangels" in various traditions and relgions -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_archangels

Enoch...

Gabriel, Michael, Raphael, Uriel, Raguel, Remiel and Saraqael

I am not suggesting these are one and the same... perhaps one group is the antithesis of the other. Still - just pointing out how 7 seems core to this primal or hierarchically higher level.

thus I should include here - the Seven princes of Hell -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_princes_of_Hell

Lucifer - Pride

Mammon - Greed

Asmodeus - Lust

Satan - Wrath

Beelzebub (also called Baal) - Gluttony

Leviathan - Envy

Belphegor - Vanity and Sloth

[jorr lundstrom]

As long as you keep seeing "simple humans/people" behind this you will keep running in circles...

these psychopaths are the symptoms of the disease not its cause...


Yeah, and if you listen to the discussion I refered to maybe you had

noticed taht the participants all agree on that the archons see the

psychopaths as a golden opportunity to really play out their agenda.

If you call the psychopaths a symptom, I think you have to call all

human beings who act out the archons agenda symptoms. I think

there is a huge difference between most people, being

manipulated by the archons and psychopaths gladly letting the

archons use them.


All is well


Jorr

[Midnight]

Maybe it's because I'm getting older, the chapter in Truman Cash's The Eye of Ra that I was most interested in is titled, "In-Between Lives Implants and Out Of Body Abductions".

In this chapter, Truman describes how he (we?) are trapped.

He used to be a "free being" who could incarnate (or not), but he was seduced by Earthly pleasure and joined the ranks of the trapped. And then he experiences the same sequence recalled in several sessions that describes his death and his soul leaving his body.

He is sucked (probably electromagnetically) into a tunnel of light which pulls him to an implant station, a big round sphere. His first several lives he is squeezed into a body in the light room, and later placed in a capsule and sent down to Earth (as an adult,I believe.) In later lives, he enters his mother's womb in the conventional manner.



But in both scenarios, there is an insectoid creature that appears in the LIGHT room as a loving light being, but that is only because it manipulated his mind. Before sending him on his new life, this being erased his previous life's memories, and then programmed his mind with loving thoughts about God, and with the idea "Always return to the light".

I hope my summary of this process is correct. Elements of this account are consistent with other accounts I have read. It's one more testimony that I will keep in mind as I struggle to understand the concept of the matrix, the loosh farm, etc.

Mr. Cash, perhaps you could answer several questions I have. I realize you might not be able to, because these memories were retrieved through hypnotic sessions.

1. Do you think the implant stations were physical structures, or were they "astral" in nature?

2. Do you believe that only the Chosen Ones, those that have been abducted over a number of lives by the 4 ET groups, are subject to the entrapment procedure that you described, or that ALL humans are processed by ETs in the implant stations?

3. At the end of The Eye of Ra, you say, "Yes, I believe that the truth could indeed set us free". My question is how could knowledge of the Trap System negate the powerful electromagnetic force that sucks you into the tunnel of light which leads to the implant station? You also say earlier in the chapter that, "I do believe that we have the potential for recovering our ability as powerful spiritual beings". I also believe this, but the amnesia we are programmed with makes this recovery a VERY tough challenge. How to meet that challenge is the question.

Whether you chose to respond to this post or not, I really appreciate your contribution to this and other forums, Mr. Cash.

[Chester]

As long as you keep seeing "simple humans/people" behind this you will keep running in circles...

these psychopaths are the symptoms of the disease not its cause...

YES! OK I agree - its why when all that Drake stuff ramped up and I saw all the talk of executions I jumped ship. Killing the hosts does nothing to eradicate the actual parasite behind it all - they would just find another host. Thanks Houman... I really bet this is the case. I know lots of people think I am nuts but I see the psychopaths the same as I see a sick alcoholic.

One of my fantasies is that we all try to go to the practicing satanists and work with them to find a way they could stop "drinking" - no judgement, no stupid ideas of "revenge" or "punishment" or worse - "executions"... that's ludicrous. They need help... again, I said its just a fantasy, but imagine a mass "intervention" by loving members of the human family that works with those within the human family who have this illness of the soul.

I looked at the AA stuff and saw how they saw an alcoholic as having a disease of the body, mind and spirit.. and I thought, wow, they left out the soul. And Malanga has all 4 seperate - I see that as brilliant and very likely the key. Practicing satanists are simply humans suffering from a disease that effects all four components of their very being.

Anyways... I hope I am not sounding too nuts here but this really seems true.

[ThePythonicCow]

From my understanding - this is multi-level.
Exactly.

And at each level, to the extent it is not overwhelmed by a higher level, it makes sense ... there is cyclic structure and fractal order, persistent patterns, self perpetuating activity.

We usually think of "chaos" as being the absent of structure, but more often chaos is the projection onto a given level of order in a higher level. The elder Rothschild looks out his mansion window at the distant riots, and nods ... "going down as intended" (from his level of awareness.)

As my father used to say, "the wheels of justice may grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine." He, and I, and many of us, like to believe that the ultimate, highest, orderings are benign. That may be true, in the "long" run. But the "long" run can be eons.

Meanwhile, and evidently currently on this planet, the highest levels of influence that I'm vaguely aware of are at least in part dark and evil.

[Chester]

Just imagine a center created by some of the "clued in" where a practicing satanist could go to get off the sauce - imagine if one at a time, they stop "drinking"... but that is just the first step, they then begin a program where they can reclaim their soul which allows them to reclaim all four primary components of a mortal being which is spirit, mind, soul and body. I would quit everything in my life to go live at that center and help those folks. I am certain many others would too.

They could remain anonymous... just have a desire to stop.

Imagine if by doing so, the food supply on earth becomes no longer palatable to the non earthly beings that consume our "loosh" - perhaps they go elsewhere... or perhaps even they themselves have to consider a desire to stop "drinking"

just imagine...

justone

[Houman]

It is a complex story...
Satanism is based on the worship and emulation of these entities...
according to Fritz Springmeier many satanists would like to get out but fear is keeping them in line (he has helped some to get out)...
many people are unaware of the fact that they have a satanist alter going to rituals...
(some of these people have a Christian front alter)...
some people have been demonized before birth (through moon child rituals, etc...)
...



Just imagine a center created by some of the "clued in" where a practicing satanist could go to get off the sauce - imagine if one at a time, they stop "drinking"... but that is just the first step, they then begin a program where they can reclaim their soul which allows them to reclaim all four primary components of a mortal being which is spirit, mind, soul and body. I would quit everything in my life to go live at that center and help those folks. I am certain many others would too.

They could remain anonymous... just have a desire to stop.

Imagine if by doing so, the food supply on earth becomes no longer palatable to the non earthly beings that consume our "loosh" - perhaps they go elsewhere... or perhaps even they themselves have to consider a desire to stop "drinking"

just imagine...

justone

[Chester]

In the interest of connecting dots:

Camelot's Henry Deacon sent me this image (not a real photo!) back in 2007, and said that the Anunnaki -- who he insisted were still active on and around Planet Earth in present time -- were masters of ritual and ceremony, and many of their craft had these winged appendages to them. Henry knew this.

My understanding (from Henry) was that the wings were retractable, ornamental/symbolic and non-functional -- possibly (purely my own conjecture) to impress local Earth inhabitants back in Sumerian times.
...

And to connect further dots as brought forth by Houman on another thread via an apparent expert on Zoroastrianism - it was Zoroastrianism that set the table for the "savior" that occurred 2,000 years ago and whether or not an actual man lived which became the legend Jesus... it is possible that the "savior" tag the man got was simply a further development of the program run by these beings that visited Zoroaster.

http://zoroastrian.angelfire.com/

So there could have been a highly enlightened man which, because of the pre publicity, was deemed to be the expected first of three messiah beings and the poor guy (if he even existed) had no clue what they would make of his life. I might add there are many folks that deemed the true savior was actually John the Baptist - still another variation of this possible program. I know I focus on this more than some folks may like, but imagine if the actual truth was Jesus never existed or was just some guy who got caught up in the energies of the times and all the story stuff so many buy into today is all nothing but complete fiction.

The general consensus is that about a 1/3rd of the world's population is christian - mind blowing is the possibility it was all just a creation of some obsessed ETs.

If a gun were put to my head and I had to bet if this was true or not, I would bet it was an ET creation.

justone

[Chester]

As long as you keep seeing "simple humans/people" behind this you will keep running in circles...

these psychopaths are the symptoms of the disease not its cause...


Yeah, and if you listen to the discussion I refered to maybe you had

noticed taht the participants all agree on that the archons see the

psychopaths as a golden opportunity to really play out their agenda.

If you call the psychopaths a symptom, I think you have to call all

human beings who act out the archons agenda symptoms. I think

there is a huge difference between most people, being

manipulated by the archons and psychopaths gladly letting the

archons use them.


All is well


Jorr

there absolutely is a difference but the difference is still within a larger, fully encompassing group where the operative word is "manipulated." If we get caught up in dividing up the group as to how we judge the situation, we play into the hands of the archons who are adept at divide and conquer.

It's a problem humanity faces... as a whole. And humanity holds all life on Earth hostage until we resolve the problem.

[Hervé]

From my point of view, it's the usual case of fudging the data to fit the theory and of course there were as many theories as there were groups so that, now, the actual data are irretrievable.

However, his bloodline has been actively sought after and hounded giving some indications of an actual man of flesh and blood.

An avenue of research may be offered with the Gypsy tradition of the 3 Maries who landed on France's southern shores?

Ooops... that was to add to post # 703 above.

[161803398]

It doesn't necessarily take a depraved sick mind to be capable of torture. That's the problem.

[jorr lundstrom]

As long as you keep seeing "simple humans/people" behind this you will keep running in circles...

these psychopaths are the symptoms of the disease not its cause...


Yeah, and if you listen to the discussion I refered to maybe you had

noticed taht the participants all agree on that the archons see the

psychopaths as a golden opportunity to really play out their agenda.

If you call the psychopaths a symptom, I think you have to call all

human beings who act out the archons agenda symptoms. I think

there is a huge difference between most people, being

manipulated by the archons and psychopaths gladly letting the

archons use them.


All is well


Jorr

there absolutely is a difference but the difference is still within a larger, fully encompassing group where the operative word is "manipulated." If we get caught up in dividing up the group as to how we judge the situation, we play into the hands of the archons who are adept at divide and conquer.

It's a problem humanity faces... as a whole. And humanity holds all life on Earth hostage until we resolve the problem.


Seen from the archons point of view they seem quite satisfied with
their divide and conquer game going on inside the power pyramid.

if they succed ultimately in that game they are left with the 1%
psychopaths at the top to manipulate. And those dont seem to
mind turning themselves into cyborgs with most of their bodyparts
changed against mechanical devices becoming even more
like the archons. But noone left to screw. LOL Its like Mr Anderson
when he realize that with Neo gone, he is gone too. The analogy
with AA and alcoholics isnt so good as a sober alcoholic can live
a happy life, as his/ her problem is strongly connected to a doing
ie drinking. The problem with the psychopaths isnt a problem of
doing ie its a problem of being. There are no psychopaths who
doesnt generate a psychopathic behaviour because thats his/her way
of dealing with life and other people. In the alcohlolic anology this would
be that the alcoholic cant quit drinking because thats all life consists
of. We know this isnt true, because there are many sober alcoholics.

The solution seem to be found among this 1% humans who are
outside the pyramid and cant be divided by manipulation.

In my point of view we cant count on any solutions coming from the
99% inside the pyramid, they are all totally occupied with fighting
an inside civil war, postponing life. it is those who are running in
circles today, stating they are looking for a way out, but are too
afraid to actually get out and stand on their own feet. Who prefer
to sit in their own garbage can rather than living. They are just in
for the free ride.


All is well


Jorr

[Bill Ryan]

As long as you keep seeing "simple humans/people" behind this you will keep running in circles...

these psychopaths are the symptoms of the disease not its cause...

This is correct.

In Dr Bill Deagle's extraordinary Dec 2006 Granada Forum Lecture (Part 3) he identifies the root problem. He refers to the real protagonists as Hyperdimensional Demonic Entities.

And Truman is right: Scientology techniques do deal very effectively with this difficult stuff, but do not go anywhere near the Church of Scientology... they were taken over back in the late 70s/ early 80s.

(See http://projectcamelot.org/dane_tops.html for further information about this.)

[Jean-Luc]

...
If the only thing that can be done is to bring this all to the awareness of the rest of humanity, then so be it. Almost every other conceivable proactive decision seems to have too much potential for flaws.

Houman once mentioned that Dr. Malanga suggested the solution lies in the hundredth monkey. That boils down to awareness so that means we have to work hard at spreading the word, extremely difficult.

...(not just directed to 'justoneman', but spurred by his comment)
What then is the proposed "solution?" Is there a consensus from folks like Truman Cash as to a plan to subvert their "Plan?" Any "solution" or "counter-plan" had better not be having all of humanity aware and/or singing the same note. Probably 0.000001% of humanity* is aware of any of this. The vast majority of humanity is in mundane, survival mode and not connected in any sort of intelligent network that they are aware of or can control.

Dennis

{edit to add}
*(I include myself in the group that is unaware. I read this stuff, and all due respect to Truman and Bill and others that have been abducted, this all reads like a comic book or a sci-fi movie script to me. It isn't real to me. It is interesting, but I just can't merely "accept" it as real or "believe" because of someone's testimony. So again, if this is real, then a solution for ridding the planet of these entities is probably not within the capabilities of an almost uniformly unaware and mundane humanity. A solution to rid this planet of these entities - and keep them away - would probably rest in the hands of some sort of powerful and benevolent ET/ED entities, which is, to me at this point, a sci-fi solution to a sci-fi problem.)


Having worked hard into the relatively simple & straightforward 911 arena for years (http://www.vigli.org) with the limited results that we know in terms of general awareness (well, perhaps not all that bad after all...), I would tend to agree with you, Dennis, that the task here seems to be beyond human forces.

Yet you should perhaps take the time to read Truman's booth books before any definitive jugdment and then ask yourself the question: Given this new awareness, what do we do with that?
(BTW, that's one the reason I think a life interview with Truman would be very valuable to bring this human touch in order to widen the audience, including internationnaly).

Personnaly, and beyond the difficult to apprehend abduction phenomenon (so prone to ridicule, the #1 weapon of disinformation), I feel the biggest compassion for young innocent 'systemic' victims from these sordid rituals. Probably more even than for other daily casualties from so-called suicide bombings for which I cannot do much.

I heard that pedo-pornography was on the rise like at no time before.

Although it can be a separate issue with respect to some of the most sordid facts related in this thread, I think that any well documented light and solid evidence given on these issues can be of help.

[TrumanCash]

Maybe it's because I'm getting older, the chapter in Truman Cash's The Eye of Ra that I was most interested in is titled, "In-Between Lives Implants and Out Of Body Abductions".

In this chapter, Truman describes how he (we?) are trapped.

He used to be a "free being" who could incarnate (or not), but he was seduced by Earthly pleasure and joined the ranks of the trapped. And then he experiences the same sequence recalled in several sessions that describes his death and his soul leaving his body.

He is sucked (probably electromagnetically) into a tunnel of light which pulls him to an implant station, a big round sphere. His first several lives he is squeezed into a body in the light room, and later placed in a capsule and sent down to Earth (as an adult,I believe.) In later lives, he enters his mother's womb in the conventional manner.



But in both scenarios, there is an insectoid creature that appears in the LIGHT room as a loving light being, but that is only because it manipulated his mind. Before sending him on his new life, this being erased his previous life's memories, and then programmed his mind with loving thoughts about God, and with the idea "Always return to the light".

I hope my summary of this process is correct. Elements of this account are consistent with other accounts I have read. It's one more testimony that I will keep in mind as I struggle to understand the concept of the matrix, the loosh farm, etc.

Mr. Cash, perhaps you could answer several questions I have. I realize you might not be able to, because these memories were retrieved through hypnotic sessions.

1. Do you think the implant stations were physical structures, or were they "astral" in nature?

2. Do you believe that only the Chosen Ones, those that have been abducted over a number of lives by the 4 ET groups, are subject to the entrapment procedure that you described, or that ALL humans are processed by ETs in the implant stations?

3. At the end of The Eye of Ra, you say, "Yes, I believe that the truth could indeed set us free". My question is how could knowledge of the Trap System negate the powerful electromagnetic force that sucks you into the tunnel of light which leads to the implant station? You also say earlier in the chapter that, "I do believe that we have the potential for recovering our ability as powerful spiritual beings". I also believe this, but the amnesia we are programmed with makes this recovery a VERY tough challenge. How to meet that challenge is the question.

Whether you chose to respond to this post or not, I really appreciate your contribution to this and other forums, Mr. Cash.

Thank you for your questions, Midnight. Most of the memories detailed in my books were retrieved using non-hypnotic methods.

1. The implant stations that I discuss in THE EYE OF RA are actual physical structures. It is also interesting to note that I discovered that Ra was using the same kind of flying disk that was used by the Mantis beings in the implant stations. Furthermore, immediately following my lifetime as Ramses II I was placed in a new human body in the implant station and brought to the Great Pyramid in one of these craft to become the high priest. This reveals a working relationship between the human-looking ETs that estabished most of the planet's religions and secret societies and the Mantis beings that operate the implant stations.

2. I don't think that just the so-called "chosen ones" experience implant stations. It appears that the going-to-the-light phenomenon in NDEs is a function of these implant stations vis-a-vis Earth. We also are aware of the phenomenon called "ghosts" that may hang around in the house that they used to live in--that is, spiritual beings who are just hanging out and not getting a new body right away. So I don't think this is something that happens to everyone all of the time.

Also, from a much broader perspective, we as spiritual beings have been around for a very long time when we look at it from a linear time stream perspective. Implant stations have also been around for a very long time in this universe. Therefore, recovering memories of being on implant stations is a common phenomenon amongst those who engage in extensive past life therapy.

3. It is not enough to just be aware that implant stations exist and that they implant amnesia as well. It is my experience and viewpoint that the truth does set one free but one has to address one's own truth individually. One needs to remember one's own experiences in order to disable past life and in-between lives programming. This is why past life therapy can be so valuable in liberating someone from past programming (implants) so that one can recover spiritual abilities and awareness and be more in the present time. There are also other areas to address to recover spiritual abilities and ultimately conquer amnesia. There are various methods to address these concerns and they are available on this planet at this time.

Truman L. Cash

[jorr lundstrom]

Is it possible that we agree on that even if the impulses comes
from "Hyperdimensional Demonic Entities", " Archons" or wotsoever
we prefer to call those enteties, who manipulate people to do these
things that we cant accept, to other people,its still people, who do
these things?
or, shall we mix up wots behind those actions with the one who
perform the actions?
I thought the Nurnberg trial once and for all made it clear that
everyone is responsable for wot we actually do, regardless of
wot made us do it.
I think its important that we get aware of how these entities
functions as I suppose we cant wipe them out of existence
totally.
Then if some people actually prefer to be guided by those
enteties, because this supports their own agendas is actually
another problem.


All is well


Jorr

[Chester]

From my point of view, it's the usual case of fudging the data to fit the theory and of course there were as many theories as there were groups so that, now, the actual data are irretrievable.

However, his bloodline has been actively sought after and hounded giving some indications of an actual man of flesh and blood.

An avenue of research may be offered with the Gypsy tradition of the 3 Maries who landed on France's southern shores?

Ooops... that was to add to post # 703 above.

Thanks Amzer Zo - I am getting down to the bottom of my experience and so I am going to mention for the sake of "for the record" that I am certain the "group" that has been involved in my personal "contact" experiences is the group from Sirius. I am to undergo a session on June 4th and I am not going to share my theory with the practitioner to see what comes out. 8 days from now, I am very excited. The guy I found is named Mark Johnson (found via Michael Newton's Life Between Life's site). When I contacted Mark last week, he spent 2 hours on the phone with me right off the bat and we hadn't even begun any formal work. I did not reveal anything to do with Sirius and so it will be interesting if my intuition (which has also been backed up by a lifetime of clues) is correct. justone

PS to Truman Cash - Thank You for putting these books together and making them available via PDFs

[TrumanCash]

As long as you keep seeing "simple humans/people" behind this you will keep running in circles...

these psychopaths are the symptoms of the disease not its cause...

This is correct.

In Dr Bill Deagle's extraordinary Dec 2006 Granada Forum Lecture (Part 3) he identifies the root problem. He refers to the real protagonists as Hyperdimensional Demonic Entities.

And Truman is right: Scientology techniques do deal very effectively with this difficult stuff, but do not go anywhere near the Church of Scientology... they were taken over back in the late 70s/ early 80s.

(See http://projectcamelot.org/dane_tops.html for further information about this.)

Bill, thanks for mentioning the takeover of Scientology and that people should steer clear of the church. Thanks also for the link to the Dane Tops interview on Project Camelot. I have been hearing some personal horror stories of people who have left the Church of Scientology and I am aware that the technology that Ron Hubbard developed has been twisted and perverted in the church.

I agree with Dane Tops that this was intentional in order to give the church and L. Ron Hubbard a bad reputation so as to deter people from regaining their innate spiritual abilities and awareness--certainly not something that the Illuminati would want.

Fortunately, there are people who left the church who are still using and teaching Ron Hubbard's original techniques and discoveries. As you know, these independent people usually operate under the names "Ron's Org" or "FreeZone".

TLC

[Chester]

Is it possible that we agree on that even if the impulses comes
from "Hyperdimensional Demonic Entities", " Archons" or wotsoever
we prefer to call those enteties, who manipulate people to do these
things that we cant accept, to other people,its still people, who do
these things?
or, shall we mix up wots behind those actions with the one who
perform the actions?
I thought the Nurnberg trial once and for all made it clear that
everyone is responsable for wot we actually do, regardless of
wot made us do it.
I think its important that we get aware of how these entities
functions as I suppose we cant wipe them out of existence
totally.
Then if some people actually prefer to be guided by those
enteties, because this supports their own agendas is actually
another problem.


All is well


Jorr

Jorr, you seem to make a lot of black and white assumptions. It's important to be open minded. Haven't you ever heard of this type of thing? -

A bank president and his family are abducted by a band of thieves. The thieves threaten to murder the bank president's family unless he takes some of the thieves to the bank and opens the safe for them.

In this case, is the bank president "guilty" of assisting the thieves in robbing the bank? Technically, he is. Should he hang?

Another situation to bring to your attention is the effects of a drug known in Colombia as Borrachero - technically known as scopolamine. Watch this video and then tell me if the folks who were victims of others who used this drug on them should be convicted and hung for their actions?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLfWDXKcFYo

Consider if you were born into a family which was a satanic family and you were raised to be a satanist, part of you (an alter) having full knowledge of what you are doing... but the other parts of you do not. How responsible are you for your actions?

Now consider if, indeed there are non physical (sometimes known as EDs) entities that have technologies such that they can abduct you, implant you with both physical implant devices as well as non-physical mind implants and you commit crimes incited by instructions received through these implants, how responsible are you?

It's not a black or white issue. But it is clearly something that effects ALL humanity. To weed out those amongst humanity who have some conscious clue as to their culpability in commission of heinous crimes of a satanic nature and not apply the more appropriate understanding of what we likely are dealing with - by dealing with the problem by solely holding these folks personally responsible in a manner they are treated as criminals will never ever allow us the capability in solving the problem for humanity. These folks need treatment - and it is quite similar to alcoholism in that it is a disease of the multi-faceted complex being we are - one that possesses 4 distinct components (at least) - the body, the mind, the soul and the spirit.

justoneopinion

[AnthonyBacala]

From my point of view, it's the usual case of fudging the data to fit the theory and of course there were as many theories as there were groups so that, now, the actual data are irretrievable.

However, his bloodline has been actively sought after and hounded giving some indications of an actual man of flesh and blood.

An avenue of research may be offered with the Gypsy tradition of the 3 Maries who landed on France's southern shores?

Ooops... that was to add to post # 703 above.

Thanks Amzer Zo - I am getting down to the bottom of my experience and so I am going to mention for the sake of "for the record" that I am certain the "group" that has been involved in my personal "contact" experiences is the group from Sirius. I am to undergo a session on June 4th and I am not going to share my theory with the practitioner to see what comes out. 8 days from now, I am very excited. The guy I found is named Mark Johnson (found via Michael Newton's Life Between Life's site). When I contacted Mark last week, he spent 2 hours on the phone with me right off the bat and we hadn't even begun any formal work. I did not reveal anything to do with Sirius and so it will be interesting if my intuition (which has also been backed up by a lifetime of clues) is correct. justone

PS to Truman Cash - Thank You for putting these books together and making them available via PDFs

Justone,

Mark Johnson is excellent! I have had personal contact with him recently during a group past life regression he hosted. Being that I recently came into the role of guardian for an "old" crystal skull, I was highly interested in how this connected with my past lives and other events. I found him online, and it turned out that he was scheduled to arrive from Dallas to New Orleans merely weeks later...a true synchronicity.

We spent hours together after the group regression, talking about experiences with ED's and other pyschic experiences, and much more. He was very genuine, and has had a wonderful background in the field of hypnosis. His father was also a hypnotherapist. I believe your regression with him will be highly beneficial, and I'm looking forward to hearing what you wish to share from this meeting.

Best of luck,

Anthony

[Chester]

From my point of view, it's the usual case of fudging the data to fit the theory and of course there were as many theories as there were groups so that, now, the actual data are irretrievable.

However, his bloodline has been actively sought after and hounded giving some indications of an actual man of flesh and blood.

An avenue of research may be offered with the Gypsy tradition of the 3 Maries who landed on France's southern shores?

Ooops... that was to add to post # 703 above.

Thanks Amzer Zo - I am getting down to the bottom of my experience and so I am going to mention for the sake of "for the record" that I am certain the "group" that has been involved in my personal "contact" experiences is the group from Sirius. I am to undergo a session on June 4th and I am not going to share my theory with the practitioner to see what comes out. 8 days from now, I am very excited. The guy I found is named Mark Johnson (found via Michael Newton's Life Between Life's site). When I contacted Mark last week, he spent 2 hours on the phone with me right off the bat and we hadn't even begun any formal work. I did not reveal anything to do with Sirius and so it will be interesting if my intuition (which has also been backed up by a lifetime of clues) is correct. justone

PS to Truman Cash - Thank You for putting these books together and making them available via PDFs

Justone,

Mark Johnson is excellent! I have had personal contact with him recently during a group past life regression he hosted. Being that I recently came into the role of guardian for an "old" crystal skull, I was highly interested in how this connected with my past lives and other events. I found him online, and it turned out that he was scheduled to arrive from Dallas to New Orleans merely weeks later...a true synchronicity.

We spent hours together after the group regression, talking about experiences with ED's and other pyschic experiences, and much more. He was very genuine, and has had a wonderful background in the field of hypnosis. His father was also a hypnotherapist. I believe your regression with him will be highly beneficial, and I'm looking forward to hearing what you wish to share from this meeting.

Best of luck,

Anthony

WoW Anthony! Thanks for this post... it raises even further my early gut confidence in Mark.

Is that a picture of the crystal skull you have as your Avatar pic?

[Chester]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archon

Yaldabaoth, called also Saklas and Samael
Saturn.
Feminine name: Pronoia (Forethought) Sambathas, "week".
Prophets:[9] Moses, Joshua, Amos, Habakkuk.
From Hebrew yalda bahut, "Child of Chaos"? The outermost who created the six others, and therefore the chief ruler and Demiurge par excellence. Called "the Lion-faced", leontoeides.


Hi Folks - the above is a quote out of a post I made yesterday. As a demonstration of how I have experienced the archontic energies note in my original post that I named the 7 archons and specifically italicized the chief archon intentionally as this is the term used in the Nag Hammadi for the primary "bad guy" which mant of us are aware is known as satan today.

EDIT: note in my last sentence I somehow mispelled the word, "most" as "mant." "Most" is not even close to "mant"s yet somehow I wrote mant. Why I am telling the reader about this is because I am reading in Truman Cash's Eye of Ra and had asked myself specifically (less than 2 hours ago) who the "mantis" creatures might be as somehow my intuition suggested they are in fact the specific ones behind the Ra alien intelligence and that this very same intelligence is like the top dog archonic expressions... perhaps the beings that inspire us to know the being "satan"... now read the rest of my post.

I just happened to be searching for this post a second ago as I wanted to refer to it in a document I am creating - this by clicking on a post number, one can bring up the link that goes straight to a specific post. For that reason I noticed the post number - 696... not quite 666 BUT, as close as you can get... just invert the 9.

I am very curious as to what level of reality can be influenced by a third party between the observer and the observation such that the third party can communicate (if there be such a third party). Anyone who has read enough of my posts knows that I conclude there is definitely the interaction of a third party. My question is, could that third party, in fact, be the demiurge? Or perhaps all 7 archons working in unison?

If this speculation is true, and the observer understands the possibility that there be a separate 3rd party intelligence between the observer and what is observed, then perhaps the third party no longer has to find him/her self in a victim state. Perhaps this knowledge can place the observer on at least equal footing with this third party.

This is my latest Theory O' the Day... thanks for your tolerance.

justoneobserver

[Daughter of Time]

From my point of view, it's the usual case of fudging the data to fit the theory and of course there were as many theories as there were groups so that, now, the actual data are irretrievable.

However, his bloodline has been actively sought after and hounded giving some indications of an actual man of flesh and blood.

An avenue of research may be offered with the Gypsy tradition of the 3 Maries who landed on France's southern shores?

Ooops... that was to add to post # 703 above.

Thanks Amzer Zo - I am getting down to the bottom of my experience and so I am going to mention for the sake of "for the record" that I am certain the "group" that has been involved in my personal "contact" experiences is the group from Sirius. I am to undergo a session on June 4th and I am not going to share my theory with the practitioner to see what comes out. 8 days from now, I am very excited. The guy I found is named Mark Johnson (found via Michael Newton's Life Between Life's site). When I contacted Mark last week, he spent 2 hours on the phone with me right off the bat and we hadn't even begun any formal work. I did not reveal anything to do with Sirius and so it will be interesting if my intuition (which has also been backed up by a lifetime of clues) is correct. justone

PS to Truman Cash - Thank You for putting these books together and making them available via PDFs

I have recently discovered that the group that has been messing with my DNA and altering the function of my hypothalamus and pituitary is from Orion.

I don't know if this is the same group that has been abudcting me since I was a child. But the story of my abductions is a long one. Maybe one of these days I will write it down if anyone is interested in knowing how it all happened to me.

[Chester]

Then you would have to take down a significant number of people with multiple alters... divide and conquer at his best... more bloodshed would only feed the dragon...



Well John Lash in this discussion suggests that we take out the

intraspecies predatots ie the psychopats ie those who do wot they

can to kill humanity and everything else on the planet. Maybe it

all boils down to this. Them or the rest of us, choose. There is

no beautiful solution to humanities most urgent problem. And

its probably just the way it should be. Link to the discussion below


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45632-Handling-psychopaths&p=495974#post495974


All is well


Jorr


Yeah, maybe better to right them a petition asking them if they

could please stop work against life on planet earth, killing them

would probably hurt their feelings too. Maybe better to let them

roll out their global genocide agenda. Maybe someone have a

brilliant plan that transforms psychopaths into empathic humans

who live respectfully together with non- psychopaths. There seem

to be a lot of people, who goes for grownups who havent let go

of Santa.


All is well


Jorr

perhaps the most dangerous psychpaths of all are those who don't realize they may be one... psychopathy is not an On or Off, Hot or Cold, is a psychopath / isn't a psychopath type of phenomena. Perhaps many of us have psychopathic tendencies to varying degrees. Perhaps psychopathy is actually one of many symptoms of archonic influence. Perhaps closed mindedness and/or stubborness and/or seeing this black or white and/or thinking killing off those that we would have to try and convict of being psychopathic (as if that could happen) would resolve the problem - when in reality this would just allow the actual invading entities the ability to flee to the next hosts.

[Chester]

From my point of view, it's the usual case of fudging the data to fit the theory and of course there were as many theories as there were groups so that, now, the actual data are irretrievable.

However, his bloodline has been actively sought after and hounded giving some indications of an actual man of flesh and blood.

An avenue of research may be offered with the Gypsy tradition of the 3 Maries who landed on France's southern shores?

Ooops... that was to add to post # 703 above.

Two thoughts - one... fascinating because with this consideration, the actual man may have been from an ancient bloodline that carried within the DNA the proclivity for "deeper understanding" and that the man acted upon his naturally occurring proclivity in words and deeds and what would appear to be fearlessness to some... and that it is this bloodline type that some EDs like most to manipulate and feed upon. In this case, there's nothing to take away from the man but to elevate him to savior of mankind status seems dangerous to me... still having said that, it is certainly a right of each of us to believe whatever we want about him (and if he even lived). I know that sentiment may not transmit in my posts, but its my true sentiment.

Thought 2 is that perhaps certain bloodlines carry within it the DNA possibility that the bloodline could produce hybrids of their human bloodline with an off world and possibly extra dimensional "energetic" line. Having said that, I recall coming upon information that stated some (maybe all) Sirians had three parents - not sure how that would exactly be done... imagine if a male and female human could combine with the energies of a Sirian entity to produce an exceptionally gifted human. If this could be true... would that be something good for humanity? It is intervention, yes?

This is all quite fascinating... I am wide open to anything about jesus as well as anyone else for that matter.

What's your views, Amzer Zo?

[Chester]

From my point of view, it's the usual case of fudging the data to fit the theory and of course there were as many theories as there were groups so that, now, the actual data are irretrievable.

However, his bloodline has been actively sought after and hounded giving some indications of an actual man of flesh and blood.

An avenue of research may be offered with the Gypsy tradition of the 3 Maries who landed on France's southern shores?

Ooops... that was to add to post # 703 above.

Thanks Amzer Zo - I am getting down to the bottom of my experience and so I am going to mention for the sake of "for the record" that I am certain the "group" that has been involved in my personal "contact" experiences is the group from Sirius. I am to undergo a session on June 4th and I am not going to share my theory with the practitioner to see what comes out. 8 days from now, I am very excited. The guy I found is named Mark Johnson (found via Michael Newton's Life Between Life's site). When I contacted Mark last week, he spent 2 hours on the phone with me right off the bat and we hadn't even begun any formal work. I did not reveal anything to do with Sirius and so it will be interesting if my intuition (which has also been backed up by a lifetime of clues) is correct. justone

PS to Truman Cash - Thank You for putting these books together and making them available via PDFs

I have recently discovered that the group that has been messing with my DNA and altering the function of my hypothalamus and pituitary is from Orion.

I don't know if this is the same group that has been abudcting me since I was a child. But the story of my abductions is a long one. Maybe one of these days I will write it down if anyone is interested in knowing how it all happened to me.

I know Houman is interested (as he has encouraged me many times to post about my experiences) and since he has put so much effort into this thread, perhaps we owe him what we can contribute as well. I also noticed this thread gets a great deal of attention from other members who do not post as well as dozens of guests. If just one reader has had a similar experience to yours and your post helps them then you are doing the world a favor in sharing the details of your experience. Please, post what you feel comfortable.

I hear Orion may be the most difficult of experiences, I hope you will post.

justoneman

ADDED info

If you have been dealing with the Draconions - that group is considered by some to be the first race of intelligent beings on our universe - here is a link to information provided by Alex Collier -

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles33.htm#The%20Draconians


the Draconians are the oldest reptilian race in our universe. Their forefathers came to our universe from another separate universe or reality system. When this occurred, no one really knows. The Draconians themselves are not really clear on when they got here.


The Draconians teach their masses that they were here in this universe first, before humans, and as such they are heirs to the universe and should be considered royalty. They find disgust in the fact that humans do not recognize this as a truth. They have conquered many star systems and have genetically altered many of the life forms they have encountered. The area of the galaxy most densely populated with Draconian sub-races is in the Orion system, which is a huge system, and systems in Rigel and Capella.

Note this is just info from a "contactee"

my inner voice just told me you are well aware of this info - if so... apologies

[jorr lundstrom]

Jorr, you seem to make a lot of black and white assumptions. It's important to be open minded. Haven't you ever heard of this type of thing? -
...
Consider if you were born into a family which was a satanic family and you were raised to be a satanist, part of you (an alter) having full knowledge of what you are doing... but the other parts of you do not. How responsible are you for your actions?

Now consider if, indeed there are non physical (sometimes known as EDs) entities that have technologies such that they can abduct you, implant you with both physical implant devices as well as non-physical mind implants and you commit crimes incited by instructions received through these implants, how responsible are you?

It's not a black or white issue. But it is clearly something that effects ALL humanity. To weed out those amongst humanity who have some conscious clue as to their culpability in commission of heinous crimes of a satanic nature and not apply the more appropriate understanding of what we likely are dealing with - by dealing with the problem by solely holding these folks personally responsible in a manner they are treated as criminals will never ever allow us the capability in solving the problem for humanity. These folks need treatment - and it is quite similar to alcoholism in that it is a disease of the multi-faceted complex being we are - one that possesses 4 distinct components (at least) - the body, the mind, the soul and the spirit.

justoneopinion

Im sorry justoneman. Idont recognize nyself in your description

and am quite speechless. LOL


All is well


Jorr

[Hervé]

Bill, thanks for mentioning the takeover of Scientology and that people should steer clear of the church. Thanks also for the link to the Dane Tops interview on Project Camelot. I have been hearing some personal horror stories of people who have left the Church of Scientology and I am aware that the technology that Ron Hubbard developed has been twisted and perverted in the church.

[...]

.... As you know, these independent people usually operate under the names "Ron's Org" or "FreeZone".

TLC

The alteration of the initial workable technology is currently so complete that it is used in its reverse version to create slaves.

I have been looking at the history of that church as a microcosm study of what's evolving at the big picture scale from the early whistle blowers to the current mass exodus out of these new implant stations. The current exodus is constituting an independent, non-hierarchical group (see this blog: http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/).

The similarity of the church evolution with the evolutiom of current societies is quite striking with insane governators at the top to plow-along slaves at the bottom.

The heartening part, from the church example, is that the people at the bottom of the chain do finally wake up and leave the clique of criminals all by themselves to destroy each other while taking down, along with them, the ones who feel to be under too dire of black mail consequences to leave.


[...]

these psychopaths are the symptoms of the disease not its cause...


To get back to Houman comment quoted above, whether psychopathic or archontic influence at work, the end results are the same: the stealth destruction of whatever works to improve one's life out of slavery; be it free energy or spiritual journeys of self discovery.

The key word being "stealth." Secret this, classified that, subliminal other, digitally implanted command under the hypnotic state of watching TV... all for the control of people's mind and their behaviour.

[Chester]

Im sorry justoneman. Idont recognize nyself in your description

and am quite speechless. LOL


True apologies, Jorr, if I misunderstood your posts that prompted my responce.

[jorr lundstrom]

perhaps the most dangerous psychpaths of all are those why don't realize they may be one... psychopathy is not an On or Off, Hot or Cold, is a psychopath / isn't a psychopath type of phenomena. Perhaps many of us have psychopathic tendencies to varying degrees. Perhaps psychopathy is actually one of many symptoms of archonic influence. Perhaps closed mindedness and/or stubborness and/or seeing this black or white and/or thinking killing off those that we would have to try and convict of being psychopathic (as if that could happen) would resolve the problem - when in reality this would just allow the actual invading entities the ability to flee to the next hosts.[/QUOTE]


After have been working for 30 years in psychiatry as a nurse and

more than 10 of these with people who were convicted by court to

be locked up in mental care for not determined time, Im so glad

for every bit of infomation I can get about how psychopaths function.

I think its nice when you give from your massive experience of

psychopaths. But................LOL


All is well


Jorr

[Hervé]

[...]
... the actual data are irretrievable.

However, his bloodline has been actively sought after and hounded giving some indications of an actual man of flesh and blood.

An avenue of research may be offered with the Gypsy tradition of the 3 Maries who landed on France's southern shores?

[...]

[...]

What's your views, Amzer Zo?

Think: "Gypsy"... would these people honor anyone with no psychic powers applied to the survival of the "tribe?"

Who were these non-conformists who ended up in concentration camps along with the Jews?

Key word here is "non-conformists" who have to be aligned... and "normalized."

Interestingly enough, the only ancient test, I know of, of detecting a psychopath not to be elected as tribe chief was designed by Gypsies of old. No, I am not gona describe what that test is but it certainly clearly cuts between who is STS and who is STO oriented.

[gripreaper]

To get back to Houman comment quoted above, whether psychopathic or archontic influence at work, the end results are the same: the stealth destruction of whatever works to improve one's life out of slavery; be it free energy or spiritual journeys of self discovery.

The key word being "stealth." Secret this, classified that, subliminal other, digitally implanted command under the hypnotic state of watching TV... all for the control of people's mind and their behavior.

Nicely distilled. Now that we recognize the problem and have looked at it every which way but loose, what is the next step to gain sovereignty and to embrace and evolve into spiritual practice without being harassed?

[seigiarchon]

Fascinating... and some of the questions are - if we are open minded that there be these types of hybrids - that are Human / Nephilims - could there also be Human / Other "spirit" being hybrids... and then of course we can go further with that but staying within the realm of the above, then that implies we may have on earth two or three groups -

a.) Human

b.) Human/Nephilim (and we determine these are malevolent from a purely group A POV)

and then with the above consideration of a group

c.) Human/Other "spirit" beings (that are benevolent from the POV of group A)

This, for me is the big question I can't answer for myself to my satisfaction...

is it A and B or is it possibly A, B and C
...

If you are to include all the creations of the Universe, I can assure you there are groups A-Z and beyond.

[Hervé]

To get back to Houman comment quoted above, whether psychopathic or archontic influence at work, the end results are the same: the stealth destruction of whatever works to improve one's life out of slavery; be it free energy or spiritual journeys of self discovery.

The key word being "stealth." Secret this, classified that, subliminal other, digitally implanted command under the hypnotic state of watching TV... all for the control of people's mind and their behavior.

Nicely distilled. Now that we recognize the problem and have looked at it every which way but loose, what is the next step to gain sovereignty and to embrace and evolve into spiritual practice without being harassed?

We, at PA are participating in that "next" step: Keep casting light onto these shady occurrences since widespread exposures lead to the withering of these controlling influences. Many here are seeing the advantages of "horizontal" rather than "vertical/pyramidal" structuring of any movements.

Again, there is no escaping it, it has to start with individuals gathering in groups and sharing the avenues of workable, efficient and effective implementations.

That's the general direction to be worked out in the details as is being done for sovereignty.

[seigiarchon]

justoneman. If you are talking about a new group of people in

power, I wanna say I dont need anyone to babysit me. I just

wanna live life and be left alone. i can take care of myself. I

can take responsibility for myself. Those who are afraid of

life, of living always want someone to blame for everything,

then they either play the victim role or the perpetrator role.

A new system, with a new group of people who hungers after

power over others wount solve anything, just a new bunch of

disrespecful idiots to keep at an armlengths distance. LOL


All is well


Jorr

I think you must understand something.

As long as humans remain "normal" humans without attaining the spiritual/occult/psychic powers to fight with and win against other ET/archon races, humanity will always remain at the mercy of other ET/archon races.

So in order to gain true independence and freedom, humanity must shift its focus from the external fight for freedoms like equitable human rights, unlimited wealth, ending of poverty etc..

Humanity must learn to shift their search for independence/freedom inwards and humanity must learn to evolve spiritually so that they can learn to gain the powers to protect themselves against other ET/archon races seeking to enslave Humanity.

Because no amount of laws, no legal system, no constitution, is gonna protect humanity from other ET/Archon races. If an ET/Archon wanna control you like how Loki controlled Hawkeye in the Avengers, are you gonna fling the piece of toilet paper called the US Constitution and Bill of Rights in the ET/Archons' faces and demand your rights and freedom?

Human Laws are nothing more than words created by humans with the power to enforce these words. If human lawmakers do not have the power to enforce human laws and justice, then human laws become nothing more than meaningless words uttered by petty humans.

Don't be ridiculous and naive.

[Chester]

After have been working for 30 years in psychiatry as a nurse and

more than 10 of these with people who were convicted by court to

be locked up in mental care for not determined time, Im so glad

for every bit of infomation I can get about how psychopaths function.

I think its nice when you give from your massive experience of

psychopaths. But................LOL


Perhaps when one's father was also an assassin for dark forces, one might have some first hand knowledge about psychopaths... including dozens of folks my Dad introduced me to. Considering that many of these psychopaths were able to "blend into" mainstream society... perhaps I have a wider range of the psychopath sampling from which to draw additional conclusions. Anyways, I did not intend this discussion to descend to this level so I will back off... just made suggestions Jorr, you don't have to value them.

ADDED - and for the fact my father was likely a psychopath, then I likely have some of that same foundational material within my own DNA - with a planet of 7 billion people and all the mixing that's been done, surely the psychopath "genes" are spread around pretty good.

Psychopaths that end up in mental or criminal facilities are just a tiny sampling of the psychopathic pie. Some become top military commanders, world leaders, CEOs, satanists that seem like ordinary folk to the general public and even perhaps posters on forums like this.

One does not necessarily act upon the dark side of their psychopathic proclivities - some can turn the tables on that aspect of their nature.

[seigiarchon]

... I think

there is a huge difference between most people, being

manipulated by the archons and psychopaths gladly letting the

archons use them.


Not too bad Jorr.

You are one of the rare few I have met who truly recognized the fact that there are some psychopaths in here who delight in being a slave of the Archons

[seigiarchon]

observer - nothing comes even close to ringing true like what you stated above and like what you have proposed in several of your latest posts.

I know this may be difficult for some to consider and I know that I may get ostracized from putting the following forth... but if I had to make a bet as to Yes or No to the following... I would bet Yes - so here is the following. Please, understand my preoccupation with Yeshua/Jesus is based on my own messianic complex programming with Jesus as my avatar.

The man that lived that became the Jesus of legends (perhaps this was the one many refer to as Yeshua) was just a man that was probably of the right blood line mix to be susceptible to archontic influence had been trained in one or more mystery schools and then went rogue. He had a conflict within (his own soul battle) and reached a point where he didn't care what "they" may do to him and so he started going public with his views.

The ET intelligences took advantage of the situation and used their "reality manipulation" technology (which is just manipulation of minds such that a "collective hallucination" could occur) at times where varying numbers of people would be present as witnesses to these events such that these events would be deemed as miracles. And that these miracles were viewed as "performed" by Jesus such that Jesus would be viewed as a God incarnate or something along those lines. This considers the possibility that Jesus could be viewed as one of the saviors prophesied to come by Zoroaster as we are aware of the Zoroastrian influence amongst the various factions that were at play at the time and location the Jesus legends sprang forth.

This suggests that Yeshua may have possibly been a victim to some extent of his own ego battle yet at the same time an exceptionally brave (or perhaps foolish) man that attempted to defy the secrecy vows by going public with his "sacred" knowledge/insights.

Special savior types (such as Jesus) and/or special contactees (such as Zoroaster and Joseph Smith) seem to pour gas on the fire (the constantly burning fire of the need for a religious type of explanation by the masses to explain the unexplained as well as to give the masses hope) and that these types, saviors and/or specially chosen ones (also like Enoch and Moses and Mohamed just to list a few more) keep popping up throughout the commonly known history suggests to me the likelihood that all these types of experiences are under a single umbrella - this from just one point of view.

Not that all ET/ED interaction is necessarily negative, though this may be the case.

What if the entire physical realm is a loosh farm and not just planet earth?

What if anything that incarnates into physical form is a "spirit" with an additional component that transcends physical mortality, the soul? And it is the soul which other spirits attempt to hijack?

I do not rule out anything, but when I consider "good" ETs / "bad" ETs then it seems logical to me that the only good ETs there may be would either have kicked archontic ass long ago (in the beginning) or remain completely removed from a situation unless and until that situation posses a threat to the good ETs. Having said that, why wouldn't the good ETs just blow away any sector of the universe that appears to be a potential threat?

So considering that, we knee jerk respond with this - the good ETs want us to resolve our problems ourselves as we all need to spiritually evolve naturally, independently of any outside influence (ala the Star Trek directive)... and so if that is the case, and there are positive ETs, I see no excuse they waited to help humanity on earth until now (as some suggest) and thus any ET/ED involvement, including EDs who channel... this seems logically to be part of the scam.

My conclusion along these lines is that we are spirits trapped in the material (which is our soul component) and that spirits that have not incarnated (and thus have never had a soul and are perhaps immortal) may be part of the universal mix but stay out of our realm as it's our business. And that spirits who involve themselves in our realm may be spirits that at one time entered into the material realm which gave them a soul, but through their own process of evolution have found themselves losing their ability to reproduce (as is a theory about some of the Greys) and that their belief system is that if they cannot reproduce within their DNA line, they fear their species' collective soul would perish forever. Thus they set up these soul farms and make deals with world governments such that they can harvest not only souls, but the physical body materials because they believe they have to for their own species survival.

Some have suggested these grey beings are humans from the future who fear they placed themselves in an evolutionary trap which is headed for an inevitable extinction of the species and through time travel technology have come back for several reasons, one is to try and change their fate and another is to feed upon their former species (or use the genetic material from their former species) just to survive.

So now consider this view...

the Creator (source) creates - these creations are children of source and are carbon copies, perfect, immortal and eternal - beings of spirit, mind and form (as form must exist within any type of plurality)

Then the children collectively create the "material realm" which by default creates mortality. Those who chose to enter this realm are choosing a mortal experience yet are still immortal spirits. This is the creation of the soul... the component that transcends death that is carried forth to the spirit's next experience, which theoretically could simply remain in the spirit only realm, why not.

Now, within the material realm are children who, for whatever reason, have followed a path where they focused their attention upon their own imaginations such that they lost sight of their true, inherent spiritual nature as a child of Creation.

These could be the Archons and/or the entire Archontic structure.

And they may have reached a point where their extinction (at least from their point of view) is inevitable and thus we have these "soul, mind and physical matter farms" like it appears earth may be one today. Perhaps they are so far gone into the material realm, they are unable to believe in their eternal spirit or that they simply are so attached to the realm of form, they do not want to return to a spirit only reality.

So because of their own obsession with saving themselves, they have created within innocent humanity the sub consciously driven belief in the need for a savior and have found technologies where souls can be captured and recycled back into the farm such that the soul never reaches its maturity - a maturity that allows a soul being the capability of incarnating elsewhere or no longer incarnating at all which would be a reverting back to its souless state of spirit, mind and form.

Anyways... there is the latest channeling from myself hahaha or better put, my theory of the day inspired by this thread and by observer's (and also Amzer Zo's) posts.

Again, apologies to anyone who I may offend with regards to my Jesus theory (again just a theory of the day).

Ohhh, I have to add this as I have posted about the "Christ Consciousness" energies I call "the Shine." It seems all children of creation have direct access to this which can be experienced by all the bodies - astral, mental, etheric and physical (as well as any other perceived bodies I did not list).

But that comes direct from creation (source) and is inherent and directly accessible by any child of creation... many of us have a hard time accessing the shine on this particular farm at this particular time.

It is this specific natural capability that it appears the PTBs want to all but 100% cut us off from. I suggest not fully 100% because this shine thing seems to be part of their food supply (and may actually be the juiciest thing they eat from their point of view).

justone

Justone I believe this is one of the most enlightening posts I have seen in PA. You hit the nail right on the head.

Will the Mods please put this man's post in the Avalon Hall of Fame please?

Yes you are right there is a war going on right now between groups of souls.

One group wanna ascend into a spiritual state of existence from the physical and the other group wanna remain in the material state of existence yet the end-destiny of that group of souls who wanna remain in the material state of existence will be a very harsh one.

Our souls are not meant to remain in the physical plane.

True Ascension means expressing the Desire to leave the Physical and every successive round of physical incarnation of the soul leaves the soul vulnerable to more and more negative matter in the soul until that soul disintegrates thousands of lifetimes down the road.

This means that if humanity decides to stick to a material existence and find some scientific method of prolonging their lifespans.. the artificially long separation of their souls from the Divine will cause cracks and chaos in their physical matrix and these will cause endless problems for Humanity if Humanity is stubborn and foolish enough to remain a Material Race after 2012.

[jorr lundstrom]

I think you must understand something.

As long as humans remain "normal" humans without attaining the spiritual/occult/psychic powers to fight with and win against other ET/archon races, humanity will always remain at the mercy of other ET/archon races.

So in order to gain true independence and freedom, humanity must shift its focus from the external fight for freedoms like equitable human rights, unlimited wealth, ending of poverty etc..

Humanity must learn to shift their search for independence/freedom inwards and humanity must learn to evolve spiritually so that they can learn to gain the powers to protect themselves against other ET/archon races seeking to enslave Humanity.

Because no amount of laws, no legal system, no constitution, is gonna protect humanity from other ET/Archon races. If an ET/Archon wanna control you like how Loki controlled Hawkeye in the Avengers, are you gonna fling the piece of toilet paper called the US Constitution and Bill of Rights in the ET/Archons' faces and demand your rights and freedom?

Human Laws are nothing more than words created by humans with the power to enforce these words. If human lawmakers do not have the power to enforce human laws and justice, then human laws become nothing more than meaningless words uttered by petty humans.

Don't be ridiculous and naive.


Are you sure you are talking to me?


All is well


Jorr

[Houman]

After have been working for 30 years in psychiatry as a nurse and

more than 10 of these with people who were convicted by court to

be locked up in mental care for not determined time, Im so glad

for every bit of infomation I can get about how psychopaths function.

I think its nice when you give from your massive experience of

psychopaths. But................LOL


All is well


Jorr

Jorr: Please no character assassination on this thread.
Thanks,
Houman

PS: No one is saying that psychopaths do not have a part of responsibility, they do, but the issue is much more complex than that.
If you wish to discuss this issue further please open a new thread (you could elaborate on your professional experience and I would be happy to contribute there but please let's keep this thread clean, thanks).

[AnthonyBacala]

WoW Anthony! Thanks for this post... it raises even further my early gut confidence in Mark.

Is that a picture of the crystal skull you have as your Avatar pic?

Justone,

Yes that is the actual crystal skull. It was smuggled into the States in the 70's by a German Nazi who was relocated to South America after the war. If you have any questions, feel free to pm me so I don't deter from the original function of this thread.

However, after working as the personal assistant of Joshua Shapiro, I learned an interesting photo-editing technique that reveals holographically stored information in the form of beings (both positive and negative) along with people, craft, cities, and other interesting things. I will post some of the images that depict negative entities. I am curious to see if anyone recognizes any of the entities.

[Houman]

From the "Eye of Ra" by Truman Cash.

There was a sci-fi television episode back in the fifties, wherein some "benevolent" ETs came to Earth with a message of love and peace. They presented mankind with a book entitled To Serve Man. One Earthling translated the book and eventually found out what it was-a COOK BOOK!
I am finding myself increasingly in this very same position; it is not a comfortable one. This is a planet where social implants seem to reign supreme, and it's not a pleasant task to make bologna out of everyone's sacred cows. Truth is truth, and we must earnestly seek it before we'll find it. If we' re looking for truth to be banded to us on a golden platter. then we're only going to be fed bologna. But don't take my word for it. If you don't like the message, please don't shoot the messenger. I really only have one message, though-DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH AND PAY AlTENTION TO THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!

Truman: Still reading your book (vol 2, eye of Ra). I have found the passages on your personal experiences, on Akarat's abduction abduction and on the pleiadians quite interesting (on that note, "Semjaza" is also a name that appears in the Book of Enoch). More questions will come.
Thanks for your previous answers,
Houman

[TrumanCash]

From the "Eye of Ra" by Truman Cash.

There was a sci-fi television episode back in the fifties, wherein some "benevolent" ETs came to Earth with a message of love and peace. They presented mankind with a book entitled To Serve Man. One Earthling translated the book and eventually found out what it was-a COOK BOOK!
I am finding myself increasingly in this very same position; it is not a comfortable one. This is a planet where social implants seem to reign supreme, and it's not a pleasant task to make bologna out of everyone's sacred cows. Truth is truth, and we must earnestly seek it before we'll find it. If we' re looking for truth to be banded to us on a golden platter. then we're only going to be fed bologna. But don't take my word for it. If you don't like the message, please don't shoot the messenger. I really only have one message, though-DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH AND PAY AlTENTION TO THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!

Truman: Still reading your book (vol 2, eye of Ra). I have found the passages on your personal experiences, on Akarat's abduction abduction and on the pleiadians quite interesting (on that note, "Semjaza" is also a name that appears in the Book of Enoch). More questions will come.
Thanks for your previous answers,
Houman

I am happy to answer any questions if I can. That is very interesting about the name "Semjaza" being in the Book of Enoch. It appears that the "Pleiadian" influence on this planet has both positive and negative aspects. My experiences with Ra and Ptah were obviously the negative aspect and perhaps this group of ETs were what Billy Meier was told were the "Giza Intelligence".

What my past life research with "chosen ones" reveals is the source of the planet's God-worshipping religions and secret societies. My research validates the information that Bill Cooper said he read in high-level Naval Intelligence documents about ETs being the source of secret societies and religions.

Also, my research helps to clarify what we often refer to as "mythology" and "legends" and some of the conclusions of Zecharia Sitchin. After I had uncovered the memories of some of my contacts with Ra and Ptah, I was really blown out when I read about a couple of my experiences with Ra in Sitchin's books.

Additionally, my memories were able to establish the source of Freemasonic symbolism and some Satanistic practices.

TLC

[Hervé]

[...]

ADDED - and for the fact my father was likely a psychopath, then I likely have some of that same foundational material within my own DNA - with a planet of 7 billion people and all the mixing that's been done, surely the psychopath "genes" are spread around pretty good.

Psychopaths that end up in mental or criminal facilities are just a tiny sampling of the psychopathic pie. Some become top military commanders, world leaders, CEOs, satanists that seem like ordinary folk to the general public and even perhaps posters on forums like this.

One does not necessarily act upon the dark side of their psychopathic proclivities - some can turn the tables on that aspect of their nature.

I have a bit of a hard time with this "it's all genetic and it's a disease" propagandized by money raising push for further biogenetic research because it's a misdirect to avoid a more obvious reason not to be spoken of nor investigated... Shhhhh... :


When one gets out of the "one life time shot at salvation" paradigm... one steps into multiple life times and "re-incarnation" phenomena... with a spirit/soul animating a body which, without it, makes the body a near vegetable.

From there, the "Intraspecies" argument falls off unless manufactured through personality fragmentations of the MKultra/satanic type of programming; all others fall into the "interspecies" type and the intentions of the soul/spirit driving that body. Rather than "interspecies," "interdensities" would be more appropriate in those later cases.

Accordingly, even if the body of a psychopath is in some ways handled, either jailed or through an applied death penalty; the soul/spirit is left still unhandled and ready to take up another body to continue in the same line of endeavors. If not picking up another body, these psychotic souls/spirits would tend to gather together from a vibrational perspective and the archontic realm fits that bill. A realm which seems to be bent on getting back at these silly humans.

As for the influence of one such individual on others, no need for genetics, one can check the Rockefellers history and the ones who work for them either by sympathetic resonance or because of the heavy leverage of blackmails.

The psychopathic behaviour spreads around almost like by osmosis; it infects the individuals who remain in close proximity as demonstrated by the microcosm study I referred to somewhere above. It's a very gradual shift that occurs, so gradual that it is barely noticeable yet very effective. Such a mechanism has been used by the media; shifting public "opinion" to other things... now, imagine such a treatment over millenia...

And, now, for the overtaking of major positions of influence and power:





Twilight Of The Psychopaths

by Dr. Kevin Barrett
Spanish version (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_ponerology09.htm)

from TheCanadian (http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/) Website

“Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it.”
– John Lennon, before his murder by CIA mind-control subject Mark David Chapman

When Gandhi was asked his opinion of Western civilization he said it would be a good idea. But that oft-cited quote, is misleading, assuming as it does that civilization is an unmitigated blessing.

Civilized people, we are told, live peacefully and cooperatively with their fellows, sharing the necessary labour in order to obtain the leisure to develop arts and sciences. And while that would be a good idea, it is not a good description of what has been going on in the so-called advanced cultures during the past 8,000 years.

Civilization, as we know it, is largely the creation of psychopaths. All civilizations, our own included, have been based on slavery and “warfare.” Incidentally, the latter term is a euphemism for mass murder.

The prevailing recipe for civilization is simple:
1. Use lies and brainwashing to create an army of controlled, systematic mass murderers
2. Use that army to enslave large numbers of people (i.e. seize control of their labour power and its fruits)
3. Use that slave labour power to improve the brainwashing process (by using the economic surplus to employ scribes, priests, and PR men). Then go back to step one and repeat the process.


Psychopaths have played a disproportionate role in the development of civilization, because they are hard-wired to lie, kill, injure, and generally inflict great suffering on other humans without feeling any remorse. The inventor of civilization — the first tribal chieftain who successfully brainwashed an army of controlled mass murderers—was almost certainly a genetic psychopath.

Since that momentous discovery, psychopaths have enjoyed a significant advantage over non-psychopaths in the struggle for power in civilizational hierarchies — especially military hierarchies.

Military institutions are tailor-made for psychopathic killers. The 5% or so of human males who feel no remorse about killing their fellow human beings make the best soldiers. And the 95% who are extremely reluctant to kill make terrible soldiers — unless they are brainwashed with highly sophisticated modern techniques that turn them (temporarily it is hoped) into functional psychopaths.

In On Killing (http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Psychological-Cost-Learning-Society/dp/0316330116/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208291611&sr=8-1), Lt. Col. Dave Grossman has re-written military history, to highlight what other histories hide: The fact that military science is less about strategy and technology, than about overcoming the instinctive human reluctance to kill members of our own species.

The true “Revolution in Military Affairs” was not Donald Rumsfeld’s move to high-tech in 2001, but Brigadier Gen. S.L.A. Marshall’s discovery in the 1940s that only 15-20% of World War II soldiers along the line of fire would use their weapons:

“Those (80-85%) who did not fire did not run or hide (in many cases they were willing to risk great danger to rescue comrades, get ammunition, or run messages), but they simply would not fire their weapons at the enemy, even when faced with repeated waves of banzai charges”
(Grossman, p. 4).

Marshall’s discovery and subsequent research, proved that in all previous wars, a tiny minority of soldiers — the 5% who are natural-born psychopaths, and perhaps a few temporarily-insane imitators—did almost all the killing.

Normal men just went through the motions and, if at all possible, refused to take the life of an enemy soldier, even if that meant giving up their own. The implication: Wars are ritualized mass murders by psychopaths of non-psychopaths. (This cannot be good for humanity’s genetic endowment!)

Marshall’s work, brought a Copernican revolution to military science. In the past, everyone believed that the soldier willing to kill for his country was the (heroic) norm, while one who refused to fight was a (cowardly) aberration. The truth, as it turned out, was that the normative soldier hailed from the psychopathic five percent.

The sane majority, would rather die than fight.

The implication, too frightening for even the likes of Marshall and Grossman to fully digest, was that the norms for soldiers’ behavior in battle had been set by psychopaths. That meant that psychopaths were in control of the military as an institution.

Worse, it meant that psychopaths were in control of society’s perception of military affairs. Evidently, psychopaths exercised an enormous amount of power in seemingly sane, normal society.

How could that be?
In Political Ponerology (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/polpon/politicalponerologyccr.htm), Andrzej Lobaczewski explains that clinical psychopaths enjoy advantages even in non-violent competitions to climb the ranks of social hierarchies. Because they can lie without remorse (and without the telltale physiological stress that is measured by lie detector tests) psychopaths can always say whatever is necessary to get what they want.

In court, for example, psychopaths can tell extreme bald-faced lies in a plausible manner, while their sane opponents are handicapped by an emotional predisposition to remain within hailing distance of the truth. Too often, the judge or jury imagines that the truth must be somewhere in the middle, and then issues decisions that benefit the psychopath. As with judges and juries, so too with those charged with decisions concerning who to promote and who not to promote in corporate, military and governmental hierarchies.

The result is that all hierarchies inevitably become top-heavy with psychopaths

[...]


Full article here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_ponerology08.htm

[Daughter of Time]

My abductions and related experiences:

It was a dark and stormy night... just kidding! Feeble attempt at levity since I feel such heaviness.

When i was a child we lived in the country. Around age 10 i developed a strong interest in Astronomy - utterly fascinated by the display in the sky at night. i spent time outside looking at the stars until my mother demanded I go in.

Around once a month or so I would wake up in the middle of the night - 1 a.m. to 2 a.m. and was compelled to go outside to look at the stars. There was always a star that looked larger and brighter than the rest and I would stare at it in utter fascination. Later I would go back to bed. I was slightly confused that nearly 2 hours had passed - every time. I thought maybe I misread the clock. Sometimes I didn't look at the clock as I returned to bed in a zombified state. Mainly I was concerned that my parents would find out about my nocturnal amusements, which they never did.

In the morning I would usually (not always) wake up unable to breathe through my nose because of dried blood clogging my nostrils - dried blood around my nose and lips. Sometimes the nosebleeds would last all morning. After many nosebleeds I was taken to a doctor who said either i had very weak capillaries or I picked my nose (during sleep?!?)

One morning I woke up with a blood red bruise covering the entire inside of my left arm. It looked as if a long giant leech had been placed there. Again at the doctor - he shook his head and said it would probably heal.

The nocturnal wanderings and nosebleeds and unexplained large bruises on my body continued until we moved out of that place. I was 13 - almost 14. Although the nightly wanderings and nose bleeds and bruises had subsided a great deal by that time.

My teen years were a nightmare because my very difficult, tyrannical father became more difficult and more tyrannical with the passing of time. My main aim was to survive and get very high marks in school so I would not suffer the worst of his wrath. I now wonder whether something was done to him too. But that's another story.

Unbearable traumas followed but I always managed to move on.

When I was 25 i was driving on the highway one night and turned into the city road which was to take me home. It was 9:25 p.m. Next thing I knew I was driving on a dark, unpaved country road. It was 11:35 p.m. I was discombobulated but not frightened nor anxious. i just kept driving until I saw a sign leading to a street the name of which I recognized. Once I knew where I was heading I felt tremendous relief followed by a feeling of euphoria. I knew I'd been abducted!

At home, i immediately took off all my clothes and carefully examined my body. There were no bruises nor marks except a few drops of blood on my underwear. This was not menstrual blood. But I did not feel afraid, on the contrary, I felt excited as if something amazing had happened to me. I think before releasing me they instilled the belief that something wonderful had been done to me.

The next day I reiterated this incident to the man I worked for. He was a hypnotist and believed in UFOs. But he refused to believe me and refused to hypnotize me. I never understood why.

The euphoria eventually left me and I decided to go on with my life. The years that followed very busy professionally. I was productive and sometimes proflific in my work. But traumas continued. It seemed that as long as I remained living life on a superficial level there were fewer problems. Whenever I delved into more mysterious matters such as finding out why so many strange things were happening to me, some heavy trauma would occur. So it was easier to remain superficial. But not for long. The more I sought to learn and understand, the more traumas would occur.

Years later I met a man I became very close to. He had experienced past life therapy and was a full believer of all the things I believed in. Many regressions followed. Many past life traumas were uncovered. Then one night we decided I should be regressed to that night when over 2 hours of time had lapsed while driving.

In my regression I re-lived that night. I was taken up to a spacecraft in a laboratory type of setting. They removed my eggs and inseminated them with their sperm. I imagine I have hundreds of hybrid children somewhere. I wish I knew what they're doing. Some kind of device was placed in my left ear. This devided ticks like a clock, on and off. Sometimes i hear voices in there.

My cycle was thrown completely off kilter and many more traumas followed.

Nearly 7 years ago I spent a few days on beautiful island located on one of our Great Lakes. I'd been there many times before and always loved spending time in that beautiful place. But this time I became very ill after that visit. Insomnia, which had been a problem now and then, became intolerably chronic. I think I knew i was being abducted during my sleep so i simply didn't want to go to sleep. Many more symptoms followed, too many to mention, but the worst of them is what I would describe as a chilled-to-the-bone with burning flesh type of malaise.

i spent nearly a year in and out of the hospital being tested for every virus, every malignancy, every infection, every disease, etc., but nothing was found. The symptoms continued. I thought I would die a mysterious death. I kept searching. High levels of heavy metals were found eventually. Chelation therapy followed and the metals were removed but the malaise continued.

Sometimes the symptoms get better. i still manage to function although nowhere like I used to. I still work in a very competitive field, although I don't work as much as i used to. I can't although I really try.

Sometimes the symptoms would almost disappear in spite of the very little sleep I get. Occasionally I go into a deep slumber for 10 to 12 hours. This is highly unusual. But when this happens I always wake up exhausted with that chilled to the bone with burning flesh symptom which is debilitating and incapacitating to the point that I experience utter despair.

Ironically, people think I am a picture of vibrant health as my body looks in good shape and my face doesn't look even remotely haggard.

The last communication happened merely weeks ago while I was preparing for a project.

It was 3 a.m. and I was in bed, unable to sleep. Nothing unusual here. A very powerful force gripped me in the center of my head and rendered me unable to move. it felt like a sharp light piercing me. And then the telepathic communication began:

Them: we are here to help you. We know you have worked very hard at causing a better existence for yourself. you have done well. We are here to completed your ascension.

I: isn't ascension bogus?

Them: all ascension means is that you will acquire a higher level of consciousness.

I: what does that mean for the here and now?

Them: it means that you will finally attract all the things which you have deeply desired but have escaped your grasp.

I: does this mean that the symptoms I suffer from will go away?

Them: Yes! You will go into a deep sleep and when you awaken you ascencion will be complete. You will regain perfect health. In your sleep we will adjust your DNA and your pituitary and hypothalamus which are very imbalanced at this point. We will heal you completely.

I: who are you and where are you from?

Them: we are friends and we are from Orion.

I: so you're the bad guys.

Them: on our plane we also have free will. Some of us are friends who will help you and some are here to destroy. But we are the helpers.

I: but I thought that on a plane of higher consciousness there was no evil intent at all.

Them: we have both just like you have, but we are here to help you. Go to sleep now.

At this point I lost consciousness and fell into a deep sleep.

I woke up at 5 a.m. from a most terrifying dream which I will not get into the details of, but the dream told me that I was being invaded. Many things happened in this dream which are probably significant but too long to describe at this point as I'm trying to make this post as brief as possible. At the end of the dream I was running and running and running in the dark, not knowing where I was running to. i didn't have my car keys nor my purse nor any money on me since they were all in my home which i could not go back to because the invaders were there. I awoke in utter terror.

The terror was gripping but I was immobilized. I so desperately wanted to get out of bed but couldn't move. All I felt was terror, exhaustion, and that chilled to the bone with burning flesh thing. I immediately understood that whenever i wake up with that symptoms it's because they've visited me and done who knows what to my DNA and pituitary and hypothalamus. I still don't understand why they're doing this other than to cause me utter despair. The thing in my ear is probably a device to control me in some way.

Around 5:30 I managed to move my limbs and get out of bed. I went to the sofa, turned on the lights and waited for sunrise.

I had a project to prepare for and I wasn't going to let this stop me so I decided to go back to bed around 7 a.m. knowing I'd have to take a sleeping pill otherwise I wouldn't be able to function but I was afraid to go to sleep. However, i went back to bed.

Upon going back to bed I had a visit from Yeshua. His visits are nothing unusual although they don't happen very often. His presence has always been benevolent to me and his light very soothing. I was very angry with him because if he's a being of benevolence, then why didn't he protect me? So this conversation began with him. In all conversations with him I speak with my physical voice and he replies telepathically.

I: Why did you let me go through that? Why didn't you intervene? Why didn't you protect me?

Y: What is the point of protecting you from something if you don't know what you're being protected from? You had to know. It was time for you to know. You were conscious and could have demanded that they leave. But you indulged in the communication, trusting without deep questioning first.

I: but they told me they were going to help me. They tricked me.

Y: and that's how they always got you. They've been getting you that way for millions of years. It was time you knew.

I: but they've been destroying me. What good is that?

Y: you can regain what you've lost. You can learn to keep them away now that you know what you're fighting against. You've been fighting against them life after life. It really was time you knew. You managed to overcome discarnate entities (this is true - entities used to attack me on a regular basis but I've found a way to overcome that on my own) and you will find a way to overcome this stronger force too.

I: I'm afraid to go to sleep. I want to take a pill but I'm afraid they'll come back.

Y: take your pill. They won't come back. You'll learn how to deal with this on your own. You will find the way. Intervention is futile unless you are aware of what is happening. The only way to keep them away is to learn to do it yourself. The answers are within you and you will find help. Don't despair.

I took the pill.

I: I feel utterly destroyed.

Y: you are stronger than you know.

And then I went to sleep.

After a few hours I woke up, initially frightened and unable to stop crying but eventually I became utterly enraged. I got in touch with my best friend (an ex scientologist) and told him: those!@#$%^&* monsters did so and so and i recounted the whole thing. He reassured me that no matter how terrifying, this was a turning point for me and that he fully believed I'd be able to find a way to keep them from tricking me and abusing me in the future. This is the same person who regressed me a number of years ago in regards to past lives and abductions so he knows my story almost as well as I know it.

I've cried a vale of tears since this last incident. I feel so much anxiety. it's profoundly difficult to go on with my daily commitments. it's almost impossible to socialize because nothing my friends and colleagues have to say seem to make any sense anymore. I feel lost, and maybe, a little bit found.

I've left out the details of how the beings in the spacecraft looked, etc., because I was shaking so badly when i started this post that i just wanted to get the main points out. So this is a mere nutshell of the incidents that have had the most impact on me as far as these abductions go. There is more which I won't go into right now.

I've had nightmares all my life, always being attacked by demon like monsters and occasionally the devil himself, which I now know to be just another hungry alien.

I will leave it at this. I'm trembling uncontrollably.

I have been in a state of utter anxiety since this last occurrence.

Thank you for your encouragement and support.

[AnthonyBacala]

Here are a few of the images from the technique I mentioned in my previous post about working with crystal skulls. You can see various entities within these images. Any thoughts, opinions, or reflections are welcome, especially in regards to the negative appearing beings/entities.

EDIT POST

I am also attaching a link to the full sized, hi-res images here, http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10101120896810835.3024921.23424642&type=3

[Chester]

From the "Eye of Ra" by Truman Cash.

[I]There was a sci-fi television episode back in the fifties, wherein some "benevolent" ETs came to Earth with a message of love and peace. They presented mankind with a book entitled To Serve Man. One Earthling translated the book and eventually found out what it was-a COOK BOOK!


To Serve Man - a Twilight Zone episode -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Serve_Man_%28The_Twilight_Zone%29



I am happy to answer any questions if I can.

It appears that the "Pleiadian" influence on this planet has both positive and negative aspects.

Can you point out any positive "Pleiadian" influence references?

Thanks justoneman

[Hervé]

Daughter of Time, thank you for letting your story out to the winds vibrating the world wide webb.

My thoughts with you.

[TrumanCash]

From the "Eye of Ra" by Truman Cash.

[I]There was a sci-fi television episode back in the fifties, wherein some "benevolent" ETs came to Earth with a message of love and peace. They presented mankind with a book entitled To Serve Man. One Earthling translated the book and eventually found out what it was-a COOK BOOK!


To Serve Man - a Twilight Zone episode -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Serve_Man_%28The_Twilight_Zone%29





I am happy to answer any questions if I can.

It appears that the "Pleiadian" influence on this planet has both positive and negative aspects.

Can you point out any positive "Pleiadian" influence references?

Thanks justoneman

I have had only unpleasant/negative experiences with "Pleiadians" (at least that I have so far remembered)--specifically, Ra, Ptah and the so-called "channeled Pleiadians" of the Barbara Marciniak kind (which are not "Pleiadians" at all because they admitted to me via a channeler trained by Marciniak that they are not from this universe). I cover my experiences with "channeled Pleiadians" in THE EYE OF RA in the "Journey to Discovery" chapter. These entities lied about many things.

However, there are people like Billy Meier who have had pleasant experiences with Pleiadians. However, according to Billy's books of Contact Notes, they gave him false information about the past lives phenomenon and perhaps false information about other matters as well. Also, Semjase admitted that they were cahooting with Zeta Reticulians who abduct people and that seemed okay with her.

Also, George Green talks about experiences with Pleiadians but I am sure Bill Ryan knows more about that. There are others who have reported pleasant experiences with Pleiadians that did not abduct them. I think that it is significant point that they do not usually abduct Earth humans.

TLC

[TrumanCash]

Thank you for letting us know about your abduction experiences, Daughter of Time. As a fellow abductee/contactee, I can certainly relate to what you are going through. I hope that you can find the solutions to alleviate the more negative aspects of your experiences as I have done.

TLC

[Daughter of Time]

Thank you Truman. I'm still crying but I'm beginning to feel stronger. I have just acquired EYE OF RA and that will be my next read. I read PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET sometime ago but maybe I should re-read that as well.

Thank you to those of you who have sent me encouraging, loving messages privately.

Thank you to those who have given me support on this thread.

Thank you Houman for starting this thread.

Thank you contributors.

Thank you Avalon.

I'm glad my best friend is an ex-scientologist. He left the church but has all the original books and tapes by L. Ron Hubbard which are all my disposition. That man is source of strength for me.

With deep gratitude to all of you.

[Hervé]

I may be wrong in my assessment, but there seems to be an underlying thread running along the accounts reported on PA, whether it be by Daughter of Time, Justeoneman, Truman, Houman or Alex Collier.

Alex in his lectures/interview keeps repeating what his mentors and their allies have experienced with intervening on behalf of individuals or planets population: IT DOESN'T WORK! NEVER HAS!

That's the crux of the matter and encapsulated in the saying "Give a man a fish, you feed him for one day; give him a fishing tool and teach him how to use it, he can feed himself for life."

Hence, whether it's Jeshua to DOT, the "shine" to Justone, Truman and the AH-ah moment of recognizing there is a remote part to oneself that's able to witness the whole of the manipulation and abduction of all the different bodies without being itself abducted... Tough sh*t to say the least. One has to reclaim one's own power... it just cannot successfully be handed down to one.

Of course, the first step is discovering there is some reality to all of that and I thank Houman for starting this thread and making it as real as it can get.

[observer]

I tremble to be tagged the 'Debbie Downer', here, but once one has investigated every possible nuance of the telepathic communication phenomenon, it all boils-down to one conclusion....

Maintenance of the herd....

Control of the crop....

Harvesting of Souls....

[Hervé]

I tremble to be tagged the 'Debbie Downer', here, but once one has investigated every possible nuance of the telepathic communication phenomenon, it all boils-down to one conclusion....

Maintenance of the herd....

Control of the crop....

Harvesting of Souls....

Observer, could you elaborate a little more on that investigation of telepathy? Because I am not quite following with the conclusions.

[TrumanCash]

I may be wrong in my assessment, but there seems to be an underlying thread running along the accounts reported on PA, whether it be by Daughter of Time, Justeoneman, Truman, Houman or Alex Collier.

Alex in his lectures/interview keeps repeating what his mentors and their allies have experienced with intervening on behalf of individuals or planets population: IT DOESN'T WORK! NEVER HAS!

That's the crux of the matter and encapsulated in the saying "Give a man a fish, you feed him for one day; give him a fishing tool and teach him how to use it, he can feed himself for life."

Hence, whether it's Jeshua to DOT, the "shine" to Justone, Truman and the AH-ah moment of recognizing there is a remote part to oneself that's able to witness the whole of the manipulation and abduction of all the different bodies without being itself abducted... Tough sh*t to say the least. One has to reclaim one's own power... it just cannot successfully be handed down to one.

Of course, the first step is discovering there is some reality to all of that and I thank Houman for starting this thread and making it as real as it can get.

Yes, too many people have fallen into that trap of thinking that another or others will save us. The manipulative ETs and their henchmen use variations of the we-will-come-and-save-you-and-protect-you ploy to cater to those Earth inhabitants who are all too willing to sidestep personal responsibility and allow others to usurp sovereignty. I don't know if David Icke said it first but it rings true for me--We are the change that we have been waiting for.

TLC