The Shape of Things Not Coming

[another bob]

Greetings, Friends!

As this year unfolds, there are a few matters that seem to weigh on people's minds, and so I consulted the Oracle via transpersonal metalink (details in part 2), to get a better idea of what to expect:


1. Since, in the scheme of universal manifestation, this is a rather low-level War/Prison planet infested with Negatives pushing the envy/hatred agenda, we can expect ongoing strife playing out in regional and domestic conflicts, but there will be no major war this year

2. There will be no pole reversal or unusual planetary catastrophic event this year

3. There will be plenty of greed-based monetary shennanigans as per usual, but no financial collapse of the economy this year

4. There will be no mass awakening, dimensional ascension, or "timeline coincidence" this year

5. Nothing unusual will happen (such as 3 days of darkness) on Dec. 21 of this year

6. There will be no nuclear attack on the USA this year

7. Earth will not divide into 2 separate realities or dimensions this year

8. The so-called PTB (who are not actually in charge) will not be exposed and deposed this year

9. Those who are actually in charge will remain in charge this year (and for the foreseeable future)

10. There will be no major depopulation mechanism unleashed this year

11. There will be no ET disclosure this year, nor ET invasion or take-over, since they've already owned the place long before humans were even dreamed up

12. There will be no significant changes in how we live this year


Cheers! :yo:

[jorr lundstrom]

Bob. Wot about carrots? Will it be a good season for growing carrots? :playball:

Jorr

[another bob]

Bob. Wot about carrots? Will it be a good season for growing carrots? :playball:

Jorr


Ah, my Friend -- that's a great question, which will be addressed in part 2.

(All I will say for now is, don't toss out your Breville Juicer anytime soon!)

:yo:

[gooty64]

What about the predicted massive California tsunami, Bob?

Is it possible that you are in denial about everything?

And what about planting perennials-is there any reason to bother anymore?

[crested-duck]

I'm looking forward to part 2 !

[another bob]

What about the predicted massive California tsunami, Bob?

Is it possible that you are in denial about everything?

And what about planting perennials-is there any reason to bother anymore?

Hiya Gooty!

How about that California Tsunami, eh! Well, not happening this year, so surf in peace!

Denial about everything? What do you take me for, a French Existentialist?

Plant lots of flowers, please! It's great for curb appeal!

:yo:

[Orph]

I'm looking forward to part 2 !Not me. He's already crushed all my hopes and dreams with his first post. Don't think I can take a second one. :cry:

[goinghome2012]

I can feel an acceleration of time.

i have felt a natural high, a lot of energy and a feeling of connection to the sun and Mother Earth.

The sun, our father tells me we are going home soon. you are probably in denial and afraid to leave this reality.

Aren't you sick of this 3d reality anyways?

[another bob]

I'm looking forward to part 2 !Not me. He's already crushed all my hopes and dreams with his first post. Don't think I can take a second one. :cry:

Maybe Borden can help?

:yo:

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I can feel an acceleration of time.

i have felt a natural high, a lot of energy and a feeling of connection to the sun and Mother Earth.

The sun, our father tells me we are going home soon. you are probably in denial and afraid to leave this reality.

Aren't you sick of this 3d reality anyways?


Nope, I'm home anywhere and everywhere already!

:yo:

[gripreaper]

Aw, gosh darn it. I was hoping for a good global economic collapse, the displacement of the psychopathic world leaders, the forgiveness of all debt, the release of free energy, and of course, David Wilcock's 122 nation alliance and his connections to ET's pulling this all together!

[sygh]

What about the predicted massive California tsunami, Bob?

Is it possible that you are in denial about everything?

And what about planting perennials-is there any reason to bother anymore?

Hiya Gooty!

How about that California Tsunami, eh! Well, not happening this year, so surf in peace!

Denial about everything? What do you take me for, a French Existentialist?

Plant lots of flowers, please! It's great for curb appeal!

:yo:

I don't know about French Existentialists, but we sure do have enough existentialists to go around here, in the U.S. Do you think existentialism will grow?

[another bob]

Aw, gosh darn it. I was hoping for a good global economic collapse, the displacement of the psychopathic world leaders, the forgiveness of all debt, the release of free energy, and of course, David Wilcock's 122 nation alliance and his connections to ET's pulling this all together!

We just picked up a new toaster from K-Mart -- it's the little things that count!

:yo:

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Do you think existentialism will grow?

It depends on the foot wear, imho. For example, today I'm wearing some warm and cozy purple socks, and so questions of being vs non-being have lost their luster.

:yo:

[RunningDeer]

I can feel an acceleration of time.

i have felt a natural high, a lot of energy and a feeling of connection to the sun and Mother Earth.

The sun, our father tells me we are going home soon. you are probably in denial and afraid to leave this reality.

Aren't you sick of this 3d reality anyways?
Yes! Please I wanna go home.....

[another bob]

Yes! Please I wanna go home.....

Having never left the house you are asking for the way home. Get rid of wrong ideas, that is all. Collecting right ideas also will take you nowhere. Just cease imagining. First of all, abandon all self-identification, stop thinking of yourself as such-and-such, so-and-so, this or that. Abandon all self-concern, worry not about your welfare, material or spiritual. Abandon any desire, gross or subtle, stop thinking of achievement of any kind. You are complete here and now, you need absolutely nothing. Leave it all behind you. Forget it. Go forth, unburdened with ideas and beliefs. Abandon all verbal structures, all relative truth, all tangible objectives.

There is no need of a way out of the dream! Don't you see that a way out is also a part of the dream? All you have to do is see the dream as dream. The very idea of going beyond the dream is illusory. Why go anywhere? Just realize that you are dreaming a dream you call the world, and stop looking for ways out. The problem is not the dream. Your problem is that you like one part of your dream and not another. Love all, or none of it, and stop complaining. When you have seen the dream as a dream, you have done all that needs be done.

~Sri Nisargadatta

:yo:

[RunningDeer]

Yes! Please I wanna go home.....

"Having never left the house you are asking for the way home. Get rid of wrong ideas, that is all. Collecting right ideas also will take you nowhere..." "...The problem is not the dream. Your problem is that you like one part of your dream and not another. Love all, or none of it, and stop complaining. When you have seen the dream as a dream, you have done all that needs be done. "

~Sri Nisargadatta

:yo:

I needed that reminder. As soon as I read your first sentence, a thwack went off inside. Thanks, another bob! Sri Nisargadatta is one of my very few heroes. Nice purple sock ya got on today.

PS I have no idea what a thwack is, but it's going to be my new word. (Note to self, look up the definition of thwack.)

[crested-duck]

Thwack is the sound you instantly hear in your head when you are not paying attention where you are going, and hit your head on something you never saw coming. Thwap is usually followed by OUCH or what the F**K !

[Sidney]

I am not sure what your Oracle is Bob, with all due respect my friend, but I have to disagree with you. Simply because, I believe there already is a mass awakening beginning to take place, and I believe TPTW already have their "depopulation" strategies in place (not that we cannot eventually overcome it). (we are being poisoned, from every avenue available to them,(food,water,air,sleep deprivation,financial drain etc.etc.)).

[goinghome2012]

Blessings

I had an interesting meeting and ceremony with Shaman from Cusco, Peru on Vancouver island. He states will experience pole shift in near future. This could happen anytime. Drunvalo has mentioned this many times of a coming pole shift and perhaps along with it a dimensional shift into a new reality. As well another man who has connection with Ascended master St. Germain who now lives in calgary, i wonder why he lives there? He says there will be major earth changes coming into our near future. he says the coastlines will be flooded.
Many other speakers, videos, and visionary's tell of a similar scenarios of either a dimensional shift, three days of darkness, solar burp or explosion by dan winter and Russian Panvov, or a pole shift and or Nibiru planet x scenario.

Are all these people wrong?

Are the crop circles there just for our amusement?

Are the magnetic poles changing?

Are the mass ufo sighting just our imagination?

or Are we just in denial right until omega point?

peace and love

[another bob]

I am not sure what your Oracle is Bob, with all due respect my friend, but I have to disagree with you.

I'm sorry, Starchild, disagreements are not tolerated in this thread.

The Oracle has spoken.


Simply because, I believe there already is a mass awakening beginning to take place, and I believe TPTW already have their "depopulation" strategies in place (not that we cannot eventually overcome it). (we are being poisoned, from every avenue available to them,(food,water,air,sleep deprivation,financial drain etc.etc.)).

There are two factions fighting it out. They've been at it since way way back, and they'll be at it long after this rock turns to cinders. Sometimes one seems to be gaining dominance, then the tables turn and the other gains the upper hand. Right now the other has the upper hand.

Consider the Book of Job.

:yo:

[another bob]

Blessings

I had an interesting meeting and ceremony with Shaman from Cusco, Peru on Vancouver island. He states will experience pole shift in near future. This could happen anytime. Drunvalo has mentioned this many times of a coming pole shift and perhaps along with it a dimensional shift into a new reality. As well another man who has connection with Ascended master St. Germain who now lives in calgary, i wonder why he lives there? He says there will be major earth changes coming into our near future. he says the coastlines will be flooded.
Many other speakers, videos, and visionary's tell of a similar scenarios of either a dimensional shift, three days of darkness, solar burp or explosion by dan winter and Russian Panvov, or a pole shift and or Nibiru planet x scenario.

Are all these people wrong?

Are the crop circles there just for our amusement?

Are the magnetic poles changing?

Are the mass ufo sighting just our imagination?

or Are we just in denial right until omega point?

peace and love


Hello, Home Goer!

As we have seen from numerous threads, people say a lot of things.

How about we convene again next New Year's Eve, and see what's actually happened?

Until then, we can enjoy each day at time, tell our family and friends we love and appreciate them, and continue to be vigilant for any motives arising in us based on greed, arrogance, envy, hatred, and fear that tend to rule us without our knowledge or consent, simply because we are distracted by wishing things were other than they are.

:yo:

ps: see my thread on Prophetic Visions. Dr. Kenneth Ring, foremost nde researcher, did a survey in 1982 of numerous near death experiencers who came back with warnings about upcoming cataclysms and such, and they were all in basic agreement that the world would end as such in 1988.

[Anam Cara]

Whatever happened to saving ourselves? Why would we need someone or something to do it for us? Whatever happened to being self reliant? I guess we have to find what we can rely on within ourselves huh? Oooooo scary business. :eek:

[777]

Yes! Please I wanna go home.....
Get rid of wrong ideas, that is all. Collecting right ideas also will take you nowhere. Just cease imagining. First of all, abandon all self-identification, stop thinking of yourself as such-and-such, so-and-so, this or that. Abandon all self-concern, worry not about your welfare, material or spiritual. Abandon any desire, gross or subtle, stop thinking of achievement of any kind. You are complete here and now, you need absolutely nothing. Leave it all behind you. Forget it. Go forth, unburdened with ideas and beliefs. Abandon all verbal structures, all relative truth, all tangible objectives.

There is no need of a way out of the dream! Don't you see that a way out is also a part of the dream? All you have to do is see the dream as dream. The very idea of going beyond the dream is illusory. Why go anywhere? Just realize that you are dreaming a dream you call the world, and stop looking for ways out. The problem is not the dream. Your problem is that you like one part of your dream and not another. Love all, or none of it, and stop complaining. When you have seen the dream as a dream, you have done all that needs be done.

~Sri Nisargadatta

:yo:

That's one of the most wisdom stricken sentiments I've ever been partial to. WCBD is a switched on human from what I've read........(I use the term human loosely). I do love humble beings willing to learn and re-member. Great thread and quoted post Another Bob. The desire to go "home" is not a planetary issue because (let's be fair) a lot of us here know we've been many other places for many reasons. Recognition of the here and now (again, please excuse the semantics as they do us little favour) is All there is, whichever life we choose.

[Anam Cara]

I think I'll go plant lotz and lotz of perennials and carrots.

[another bob]

I think I'll go plant lotz and lotz of perennials and carrots.

And share your best ones with your neighbors, just because . . .

:yo:

[greybeard]

Countless numbers of people die each day --- countless babies born.
Its the end of the world for some and the birth of a world for others and on it goes.
Death is death--- birth is birth----- 2013 wont change this.
Some day I wont be here.
So where was I, what was I, before birth?

Chris

[another bob]

So where was I, what was I, before birth?

Yep!!

Cease practice based on intellectual understanding, pursuing words and following after speech. Learn the backward step that turns your light inward to illuminate within. Body and mind of themselves will drop away and your Original Face before your parents were born will be manifest.

— Dogen Zenji

:yo:

[RunningDeer]

Yes! Please I wanna go home.....
Get rid of wrong ideas, that is all. Collecting right ideas also will take you nowhere. Just cease imagining. First of all, abandon all self-identification, stop thinking of yourself as such-and-such, so-and-so, this or that. Abandon all self-concern, worry not about your welfare, material or spiritual. Abandon any desire, gross or subtle, stop thinking of achievement of any kind. You are complete here and now, you need absolutely nothing. Leave it all behind you. Forget it. Go forth, unburdened with ideas and beliefs. Abandon all verbal structures, all relative truth, all tangible objectives.

There is no need of a way out of the dream! Don't you see that a way out is also a part of the dream? All you have to do is see the dream as dream. The very idea of going beyond the dream is illusory. Why go anywhere? Just realize that you are dreaming a dream you call the world, and stop looking for ways out. The problem is not the dream. Your problem is that you like one part of your dream and not another. Love all, or none of it, and stop complaining. When you have seen the dream as a dream, you have done all that needs be done.

~Sri Nisargadatta

:yo:

That's one of the most wisdom stricken sentiments I've ever been partial to. WCBD is a switched on human from what I've read........(I use the term human loosely). I do love humble beings willing to learn and re-member. Great thread and quoted post Another Bob. The desire to go "home" is not a planetary issue because (let's be fair) a lot of us here know we've been many other places for many reasons. Recognition of the here and now (again, please excuse the semantics as they do us little favour) is All there is, whichever life we choose.

Thanks, 777
Conundrum. Depends from which level we speak. We're all of the "Oneness of One". AND we've sign on for jobs on Planet Earth. But I grow tired of this world changing before these eye minute by minute. No fear (almost no fear, it creeps in when I'm unaware), just frustration and impatience. "But thank you," she said with cheeks of blush red to 777 which is 21/3 = Godhead, the Trinity.

[another bob]

But I grow of this world changing before these eye minute by minute. No fear (almost no fear, it creeps in when I'm unaware), just frustration and impatience.

It's a paradox, eh -- when we live from what is, rather than from how we'd like things to be, or expect things to be, we always get our way.

:yo:

[TraineeHuman]

Greetings, Another. I’ve been a member of the Forum for close to four years, if one counts its previous incarnation as the old Camelot/Avalon forums. I remember how, two to four years ago, I was obviously very, very much in the minority by adopting a position similar to what you express in the opening post. (“What? How dare he refuse to be panicstricken? He mustn’t care about anything, at all.” But do I even care that at times I’m naturally skilled at seeming “different” from everybody else? Not one bit.) Back then, it would have been pointless for me to be as up front as you have been here. Most members literally believed that a big variety of megadisasters were upon them. I remember one member urging everyone to enjoy their summer break, on the grounds that it would probably be their last – or maybe, if they were very lucky, their last in the Western lifestyle and standard of living they had taken for granted. And it seemed that nearly all members agreed with that back then.

Even the whole purpose of the original Avalon Forum was supposedly to discuss and provide info on “ground crew” issues. The idea apparently was, if you weren’t a true “ground-crewer” you probably – make that certainly -- wouldn’t survive more than a year or two at best. That was because society as we knew it was supposedly going to go kaput completely.

Basically what happened was that none of the megadisasters ever materialized – or else a few remaining ones are still to materialize. I’m not really trying to gloat. One very encouraging thing that has happened is that there has been a progressive sorting out of the wheat from the chaff regarding what the real issues are and what the phony scaremongering fibs are – or were.

So, Another, as some posters have already pointed out, there are still some genuine issues of the day. These include:

• An economic system in ruins – which of course has happened many, many times in the past, e.g. at the collapse of the Roman Empire, or at the end of World War 2, to mention only two.

• Earth changes and pole reversal, which my intuition and my contacts “upstairs” say won’t happen for a couple of decades, beyond the gradual, somewhat harmless shifting of the poles and so on.

• Extreme destruction of the environment.

• Attempts or plans at major population reduction, and indeed at creating World War 3 – which the true powers “upstairs” have always been determined to prevent, it seems.

• Attempts at enslavement of the population – which have always occurred throughout the history of the last four thousand years. Today, though, the average Western individual lives like a king compared to previous generations, as far as life being physically/materially easier goes, in many respects.

• There is also the positive issue that there is a very long golden age for humanity in the near future – and many genuine clairvoyants can see it there in the probable future with great certainty.

• There are still some wildcards from the old list of 4 years ago, such as solar flares possibly disrupting the entire power grid for months in most countries (but not Canada or China, I understand, because they have taken appropriate protective measures).

Apart from the above issues, though, I agree with you that 2012 will most likely be just another year. And that people will continue to dramatize and exaggerate the disaster-value of anything they can. It’s very interesting how one researcher found that every single generation over the last two thousand years has seen significant groups of people who dogmatically believed that the times they were living in were “the End times” as supposedly predicted in the Bible.

[another bob]

Apart from the above issues, though, I agree with you that 2012 will most likely be just another year.

Hello my Friend!

Yes, I certainly do not wish to downplay the very real and pressing issues facing us, but was specifically talking about this year 2012. For example, I believe that a grid failure due to a CME is a very real possibility in the near future. In that regard, I've organized my nearest neighbors into a collective, and set aside enough water, food, medicine, and fuel to get us through a year if need be. I also feel that a much kinder and gentler version of the illusion is right around the corner for mankind, and that we can raise our vibration to some extent to assist in ushering in the next Epoch.

Always nice to hear from you!

:yo:

[RunningDeer]

But I grow of this world changing before these eye minute by minute. No fear (almost no fear, it creeps in when I'm unaware), just frustration and impatience.

It's a paradox, eh -- when we live from what is, rather than from how we'd like things to be, or expect things to be, we always get our way.

:yo:

“I AM me” until I get back to “I AM”: A spark of Me-ness is the journeyer. I play at 3D, illusionary human-ness. Who's also cognizant that its a Hugh Light Being that has stepped away from the "Oneness of One/Absolute,” into this 3D reality. Assistance-renderer for those ready to either ride the wave to the next stop on their journey, or to take it all the way home to the "Oneness of One/Absolute".

Either way, I’m a traffic director, passing out maps and GPS’s. Grabbing the occasional hand that reaches towards this Light Source, swinging him in the direction of his own choosing. I’ve been making my way back for a very long time now. Bringing as many as I possibly can along my travel throughout this “Vastness of All”. I am tired. I want to go home.

[Intranuclear]

I am trying to figure out the better way out: Positive numbers being more desirable (range is +100 to -100)
1. Earth spin speeds up and we fly into outer space (+30)
2. Earth's spin axis wobble increases 100 fold (-30)
3. Death of old age with no friends or memory remaining (-80)
4. Death by bullet (-30)
5. Death by broken heart (-90)
6. Loss of a child (-100)
7. Economic collapse (+50)
8. Nuclear war (0)
9. Death by car crash (-10)
10. Death by sickness (-10)

You know, it seems to me that the normal means of death are much more frightening than all of the predictions of doom and gloom.
Given all of the choices, I think I will take Bobs choice of living one day at a time and holding on to my loved ones.
I do wish more people choose that method of going out or home. It seems far more fulfilling than gloating about who was right when the time comes.

Cheers all.

[Quantum Logic]

I am not sure what your Oracle is Bob, with all due respect my friend, but I have to disagree with you.

I'm sorry, Starchild, disagreements are not tolerated in this thread.

The Oracle has spoken.


Simply because, I believe there already is a mass awakening beginning to take place, and I believe TPTW already have their "depopulation" strategies in place (not that we cannot eventually overcome it). (we are being poisoned, from every avenue available to them,(food,water,air,sleep deprivation,financial drain etc.etc.)).

There are two factions fighting it out. They've been at it since way way back, and they'll be at it long after this rock turns to cinders. Sometimes one seems to be gaining dominance, then the tables turn and the other gains the upper hand. Right now the other has the upper hand.

Consider the Book of Job.

:yo:

Disagreements are not tolerated? I beg to differ, as he just did. Ignoring the state of that which you know does not protect- it endangers. You are free to believe whatever you want to believe, until experience changes you. Those who seek answers from others simply choose not to seek the answers for themselves. How many in this world have said they consulted an "oracle" or "channeled" someone or something? And yet we are to take your word from this "oracle" as fact? One of humanity's greatest abilities is to affect the world around us when we gain knowledge and insight. You have chosen to not affect the world around you in any way, but simply let things happen. That is fine, as it is again, your choice. But this is only proving to those running this great experiment that stagnation and complacency of thought have risen to high levels, which will only prolong the cycle of the two sides, and as such will inherently cause the cycle again.

I, along with others, intend to use our knowledge to end the cycle- at least for ourselves. If you choose to continue to participate in it, then you have already let others decide your fate. There are things on the horizon you know nothing about, since if you did and consulted the "oracle" about them, they would have been in your list. But this knowledge is absent- simply because you choose not to learn- instead consulting something that could very well be lying to you. Can you demonstrate with your level of knowledge the specific reasons why none of the events will occur?

So I disagree with you as well- and until you can demonstrate a level of knowledge that is your own- not an "oracle"- then I will continue to learn and make a difference in the experiment. And this disagreement WILL be tolerated since you do not control my thoughts or beliefs- knowledge and experience does that for me.

Respectfully,
QL

[another bob]

I am tired. I want to go home.

Your departure date has been set prior to your birth. In the meantime, if I may suggest: discard all fictional self-images such as "traffic director", "jouneyer", "assistance renderer", etc.. Identification with names and forms are dragging you down and making you feel so tired.

:yo:

[another bob]

Can you demonstrate with your level of knowledge the specific reasons why none of the events will occur?

Yes!



So I disagree with you as well

OK!

:yo:

[Orph]

Just curious as to the shape of things not coming. Would the shape be different if it was coming? If things aren't coming, are they going or can they just sit there and be static?

[another bob]

Just curious as to the shape of things not coming. Would the shape be different if it was coming? If things aren't coming, are they going or can they just sit there and be static?

In reality, nothing happens.

Yeah, yeah, but tell that to my socks!

:yo:


ps: the title was a tongue-in-cheek play on Cliff High's doom sheet "The Shape of Things to Come"

[Wind]

Bob, you might be right. And probably you are... But at this point I cannot agree because I think that if nothing happens in the very near future that means that we have missed our window of oppportunity and it would be really depressing. At least it would be for me. But I think that something major and wonderful WILL happen this year and probably in december. But it just my opinion and yes, you may call me a dreamer! But it's not about who is right or who is wrong, now is it?. All we can do is to try to make this world a better place to live for each us. It all seems pretty dark now... But everything can change in a blink of an eye. ;)

And it seems that you have a really good sense of humour. :)

[eileenrose]

I have my feelings about this year. Let me explain what is going on.

It is what has been going on for some time, so it is hard to see. Forest for the trees type of thing.
People are losing their homes, their jobs, their financial well being and now finally their health (due to EMF smog, on a massive scale)....since the Vaccines didin't work (against the human population), Fuku radiation didn't, chem trails didn't and taking our jobs to China didn't....so now we get Smart meters.

So this is on-going and there isn't an end in sight.
No end at all. And the bank looting continues to escalate.
Countries will be next to go bankrupt. That means hostile take overs and whatever other crimes can be committed (by the monsters who unleashed this on us).

All I had to do to predict these things is to pick up a newspaper or two.
It doesn't take a genius to see where this all ends. Another doomed civilization on its final go around.

It has happen before and it will happen again. The only difference is we see it coming. What we tend to do is dismiss this information. But at any moment, humanity can change and decide to 'see' what is being revealed, about how we are corrupted by the very system that we use to support ourselves. What will we do with this information (when it finally gets into our head?)? Nothing.

As we don't know who we are and don't really care.

The few humans that do care (for whatever reasons....too long to go into here), don't know what to do, but do care.

One or two might even have the answers. But will we even listen?
I doubt that many would understand.

So that is where we are (with forums on-line) currently.
Mass education is happening....what results will come out of it depends on us readers.

[another bob]

Bob, you might be right. And probably you are...

That's what I like to hear!



But everything can change in a blink of an eye. ;)

Change is the only constant.

(Well, that, and my dog shedding)



And it seems that you have a really good sense of humour. :)

If so, it's from looking in my mirror -- ya gotta laugh!

:yo:

[Quantum Logic]

Can you demonstrate with your level of knowledge the specific reasons why none of the events will occur?

Yes!




Then please do so. You are becoming transparent when you say things like this-

"That's what I like to hear!"

Is it possible you are trying to convince yourself by having others agree with you? If you have the knowledge, present it. Otherwise this is just another thread to garner self serving support for belief in an unseen "oracle" or "channel", which we all know where that road leads.....

QL

[another bob]

....this is just another thread to garner self serving support for belief in an unseen "oracle" or "channel", which we all know where that road leads.....

Apparently my sense of humor is a bit too dry for some, although a straight face helps me out during poker games!


On another note, I was reflecting on Starseed's hunch that "something wonderful was going to happen, maybe in December". It occurs to me that something wonderful is always happening, but we typically miss it, even though it's right in front of our noses, because we're so pre-occupied with future scenarios. That's why I say, you will never become happy, you can only be happy.

:yo:

[Quantum Logic]

....this is just another thread to garner self serving support for belief in an unseen "oracle" or "channel", which we all know where that road leads.....

Apparently my sense of humor is a bit too dry for some, although a straight face helps me out during poker games!


On another note, I was reflecting on Starseed's hunch that "something wonderful was going to happen, maybe in December". It occurs to me that something wonderful is always happening, but we typically miss it, even though it's right in front of our noses, because we're so pre-occupied with future scenarios. That's why I say, you will never become happy, you can only be happy.

:yo:

I have misinterpreted your post as being serious then, so I am sorry for being so forthright. But we have been having "fun" and neglecting our responsibilities for the future for far too long, and I do not see humor in the current plight our civilization is in, which is why I responded the way I did. But you have illustrated a point I made in a previous post- that some choose to sit back and watch the world happen, while others seek to change it.

Again, I am sorry for misinterpreting your post as fact instead of humor, although I will admit Clif's predictive linguistics program is only now being taken seriously by those doing quantum research- specifically entanglement.

QL

[ViralSpiral]

specifically entanglement.

QL



Therein lies the paradox.... http://files.softicons.com/download/application-icons/led-icon-set-by-led24.de/png/16/emoticon_wink.png



Been observing. Am hungry now. :hungry:

Please Sir, may I have some toast?


:biggrin1:

[Quantum Logic]

specifically entanglement.

QL



Therein lies the paradox....

An experiment is underway to prove entanglement not just through space, but through time as well. If successful it will prove that time does not exist and is an illusion of perception. It is being performed by the same duo that maintained entanglement for 20 MINUTES.

QL

[Mu2143]

WASHINGTON, February 18, according to Japanese news network reported on the 18th, the Japanese government is planning to dispatch a Maritime Self-Defense Force fleet to the Strait of Hormuz, a fleet will be to frigates (destroyers), and minesweepers, as well as such as refueling ship. This plan has been confirmed by Japan’s defense.

http://www.cnmilitary.info/japan-intends-to-send-the-strait-of-hormuz-the-fleet-for-the-u-s-military-support/

An Iranian flotilla has arrived in a Syrian port to provide maritime training to the country’s navy, media reports. It’s only the second time Iranian warships have sailed through the Suez Canal into the Mediterranean
http://rt.com/news/iran-syria-suez-maritime-training-667/

[seantimberwolf]

I'm looking forward to part 2 !Not me. He's already crushed all my hopes and dreams with his first post. Don't think I can take a second one. :cry:

Maybe Borden can help?



I don't see how bringing Borden into this helps anyone?
It does not matter if you feel someone does not "resonate" with you.
Its there view and they are entitled to it.
I personally do not believe anything will happen but i think its due to people sitting around preying and hoping for some stupid pathetic divine ET to come and tell them what they think they already know!
People like Borden and myself are unhappy with the real state of the world, and dont take comfort in hiding from it in meditation and "love and light"

[NeverMind]

If successful it will prove that time does not exist and is an illusion of perception.

"Time" is but a name we give to duration - the very duration that makes our bodies and everything that exists... exist.
Time is being.

Of course it is perception; but that doesn't make it unreal. This mode of perception is hard-wired within us. There is no escaping from it. Not alive, that is. :)

"Time" can be much less immutable and predictable than it is usually thought.
But from our perspective, it most definitely exists.
We, and everything that is, are living proof of it.

[stardustaquarion]

I can feel an acceleration of time.

i have felt a natural high, a lot of energy and a feeling of connection to the sun and Mother Earth.

The sun, our father tells me we are going home soon. you are probably in denial and afraid to leave this reality.

Aren't you sick of this 3d reality anyways?
Yes! Please I wanna go home.....

What home? we are home...Earth is such a beauty...we are the ones that suck so we could stop being self destructive and start learning how to cooperate with each other and more importantly, co-existing peacefully and efficiently with the rest of the planetary beings

Whoever thought we can leave the mess behind and go mess somewhere else is rather unrealistic

If we can not make it down here, we would not be able to make it elsewhere. The problem is INSIDE of us and not OUTSIDE on the planet....the planet is such beautiful being and we give her such a hard time!

Just become a conscious and frugal consumer...simple :humble:

[HORIZONS]

"Our Hero is inside of us, not standing beside one of us."

[Sidney]

I have my feelings about this year. Let me explain what is going on.

It is what has been going on for some time, so it is hard to see. Forest for the trees type of thing.
People are losing their homes, their jobs, their financial well being and now finally their health (due to EMF smog, on a massive scale)....since the Vaccines didin't work (against the human population), Fuku radiation didn't, chem trails didn't and taking our jobs to China didn't....so now we get Smart meters.

So this is on-going and there isn't an end in sight.
No end at all. And the bank looting continues to escalate.
Countries will be next to go bankrupt. That means hostile take overs and whatever other crimes can be committed (by the monsters who unleashed this on us).

All I had to do to predict these things is to pick up a newspaper or two.
It doesn't take a genius to see where this all ends. Another doomed civilization on its final go around.

It has happen before and it will happen again. The only difference is we see it coming. What we tend to do is dismiss this information. But at any moment, humanity can change and decide to 'see' what is being revealed, about how we are corrupted by the very system that we use to support ourselves. What will we do with this information (when it finally gets into our head?)? Nothing.

As we don't know who we are and don't really care.

The few humans that do care (for whatever reasons....too long to go into here), don't know what to do, but do care.

One or two might even have the answers. But will we even listen?
I doubt that many would understand.

So that is where we are (with forums on-line) currently.
Mass education is happening....what results will come out of it depends on us readers.


Perfectly stated Eileenrose..I will also add that since the flouride in the water didn't work (caz people are filtering it out and communities are getting rid of it) so now they are spraying the food with it, and putting it in food as addatives. You are so right, there is no end in sight.

[RunningDeer]

I am not sure what your Oracle is Bob, with all due respect my friend, but I have to disagree with you.

I'm sorry, Starchild, disagreements are not tolerated in this thread.

The Oracle has spoken.


Simply because, I believe there already is a mass awakening beginning to take place, and I believe TPTW already have their "depopulation" strategies in place (not that we cannot eventually overcome it). (we are being poisoned, from every avenue available to them,(food,water,air,sleep deprivation,financial drain etc.etc.)).

There are two factions fighting it out. They've been at it since way way back, and they'll be at it long after this rock turns to cinders. Sometimes one seems to be gaining dominance, then the tables turn and the other gains the upper hand. Right now the other has the upper hand.

Consider the Book of Job.

:yo:

Disagreements are not tolerated? I beg to differ, as he just did. Ignoring the state of that which you know does not protect- it endangers. You are free to believe whatever you want to believe, until experience changes you. Those who seek answers from others simply choose not to seek the answers for themselves. How many in this world have said they consulted an "oracle" or "channeled" someone or something? And yet we are to take your word from this "oracle" as fact? One of humanity's greatest abilities is to affect the world around us when we gain knowledge and insight. You have chosen to not affect the world around you in any way, but simply let things happen. That is fine, as it is again, your choice. But this is only proving to those running this great experiment that stagnation and complacency of thought have risen to high levels, which will only prolong the cycle of the two sides, and as such will inherently cause the cycle again.

I, along with others, intend to use our knowledge to end the cycle- at least for ourselves. If you choose to continue to participate in it, then you have already let others decide your fate. There are things on the horizon you know nothing about, since if you did and consulted the "oracle" about them, they would have been in your list. But this knowledge is absent- simply because you choose not to learn- instead consulting something that could very well be lying to you. Can you demonstrate with your level of knowledge the specific reasons why none of the events will occur?

So I disagree with you as well- and until you can demonstrate a level of knowledge that is your own- not an "oracle"- then I will continue to learn and make a difference in the experiment. And this disagreement WILL be tolerated since you do not control my thoughts or beliefs- knowledge and experience does that for me.

Respectfully,
QL
There's a lot of gems in this thought provoking piece. Like this first quote. Knowin' ain't doin':

"You are free to believe whatever you want to believe, until experience changes you. Those who seek answers from others simply choose not to seek the answers for themselves."

How many in this world have said they consulted an "oracle" or "channeled" someone or something? And yet we are to take your word from this "oracle" as fact? One of humanity's greatest abilities is to affect the world around us when we gain knowledge and insight. You have chosen to not affect the world around you in any way, but simply let things happen.

To use oracles to make life decisions is to give up one’s self-empowerment ability. Every time one’s looks to an outside source that gift become more and more atrophied. Yet, to use oracles as a jump off point to trigger one’s own inner creativity, and inner knowing then it’s helpful; especially for someone young in understand of how this game of human experience works.

In the end, all is a game of words and concepts that can be debated from either side. Now, the one that transcends the words and listens to the silence... Whoosh.

[Sidney]

....this is just another thread to garner self serving support for belief in an unseen "oracle" or "channel", which we all know where that road leads.....

Apparently my sense of humor is a bit too dry for some, although a straight face helps me out during poker games!


On another note, I was reflecting on Starseed's hunch that "something wonderful was going to happen, maybe in December". It occurs to me that something wonderful is always happening, but we typically miss it, even though it's right in front of our noses, because we're so pre-occupied with future scenarios. That's why I say, you will never become happy, you can only be happy.

:yo:

Personally, I "miss" things, because I am sick. I have been GIVEN a horrible disease called LYME, that was BREWED UP in a LAB, by our lovely leaders. I am also Targeted, by our lovely leaders. Because OUR LEADERS have us scraping pennies to get the bills paid, it is next to impossible to eat organic nourishing food, to try to feel better. I still have a roof over my head, but that is more than alot of people have. The good in the world is disappearing little by little., (actually by leaps and bounds), and we have to stand up and say enough already. People that are raising kids these days, don't have time to smell the few roses that can actually bloom in this toxic state our planet is in, because we are too busy working 3 jobs, trying to feed our family. Not everyone is able to just enjoy the ride.

[Sidney]

I can feel an acceleration of time.

i have felt a natural high, a lot of energy and a feeling of connection to the sun and Mother Earth.

The sun, our father tells me we are going home soon. you are probably in denial and afraid to leave this reality.

Aren't you sick of this 3d reality anyways?
Yes! Please I wanna go home.....

I wanna go home too. The sooner the better.:ufo::ufo:

[RunningDeer]

Personally, I "miss" things, because I am sick. I have been GIVEN a horrible disease called LYME, that was BREWED UP in a LAB, by our lovely leaders. I am also Targeted, by our lovely leaders. Because OUR LEADERS have us scraping pennies to get the bills paid, it is next to impossible to eat organic nourishing food, to try to feel better. I still have a roof over my head, but that is more than alot of people have. The good in the world is disappearing little by little., (actually by leaps and bounds), and we have to stand up and say enough already. People that are raising kids these days, don't have time to smell the few roses that can actually bloom in this toxic state our planet is in, because we are too busy working 3 jobs, trying to feed our family. Not everyone is able to just enjoy the ride.
Wow, chills. Heart felt, honesty. Thank you, starchild111.

I just learned only a few weeks ago about how Lyme disease came to be. I had to re-read it because I thought I misread. There's a part of me that wants to give advice, but I gotta nothin' right now. Unless, one has Lymes, one can't begin to understand the your daily struggle.

So before I exit, I'll zap you, here and now, with a spark of Loving Peace, with a side order of smile.

[Orph]

Just curious as to the shape of things not coming. Would the shape be different if it was coming? If things aren't coming, are they going or can they just sit there and be static?

ps: the title was a tongue-in-cheek play on Cliff High's doom sheet "The Shape of Things to Come"I know. My response above was tongue-in-cheek too, but I guess my teeth got in the way.

[RunningDeer]

I can feel an acceleration of time.

i have felt a natural high, a lot of energy and a feeling of connection to the sun and Mother Earth.

The sun, our father tells me we are going home soon. you are probably in denial and afraid to leave this reality.

Aren't you sick of this 3d reality anyways?
Yes! Please I wanna go home.....

What home? we are home...Earth is such a beauty...we are the ones that suck so we could stop being self destructive and start learning how to cooperate with each other and more importantly, co-existing peacefully and efficiently with the rest of the planetary beings

Whoever thought we can leave the mess behind and go mess somewhere else is rather unrealistic

If we can not make it down here, we would not be able to make it elsewhere. The problem is INSIDE of us and not OUTSIDE on the planet....the planet is such beautiful being and we give her such a hard time!

Just become a conscious and frugal consumer...simple :humble:
Hello stardustaquarion, I do understand your point of view, and from the perspective you reside, and why you chose to include me as part of your post.

Though, (which is another way of saying, here's the but) I do have the need to point out that the post you referenced is limiting and leaves the canvas half empty. Peace, WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[Orph]

Not me. He's already crushed all my hopes and dreams with his first post. Don't think I can take a second one. :cry:

Maybe Borden can help?


I don't see how bringing Borden into this helps anyone?
My quote was made in jest, and I'm pretty sure bob's quote was too. Or maybe he was pulling my leg. Or perhaps it was tongue-in-cheek. Or he could've been just ribbing me. .........Awwww heck, I thought it was funny. :)

[crested-duck]

Laughing, especially being able to laugh at yourself is a good and necessary thing. Yes we live in perilous times, it's serious, but balance is key to sanity at this present time. If you woke up breathing this morning, you've been given another chance to enjoy life. Nobody knows what tomorrow will bring, we're all just guessing at it and pissing into the wind like fools anyway. Acceptance,acceptance, acceptance, forgiveness,forgiveness,forgiveness!!!

[RunningDeer]

I am tired. I want to go home.

Your departure date has been set prior to your birth. In the meantime, if I may suggest: discard all fictional self-images such as "traffic director", "jouneyer", "assistance renderer", etc.. Identification with names and forms are dragging you down and making you feel so tired.

:yo:
The frustration I experience is that to lift words off the page, destroys the original intent and essence of the message. There is the awareness that the Higher "I" and beyond that needs no words; there is play in this 3D experience. In this case, description was needed because of an earlier reference by another for clarification. People have differing degrees of understanding, so visual and descriptors was my best decision. Otherwise the page would be blank every time.

[another bob]

Greetings, Friends!

As this year unfolds, there are a few matters that seem to weigh on people's minds, and so I consulted the Oracle via transpersonal metalink (details in part 2), to get a better idea of what to expect:


1. Since, in the scheme of universal manifestation, this is a rather low-level War/Prison planet infested with Negatives pushing the envy/hatred agenda, we can expect ongoing strife playing out in regional and domestic conflicts, but there will be no major war this year

2. There will be no pole reversal or unusual planetary catastrophic event this year

3. There will be plenty of greed-based monetary shennanigans as per usual, but no financial collapse of the economy this year

4. There will be no mass awakening, dimensional ascension, or "timeline coincidence" this year

5. Nothing unusual will happen (such as 3 days of darkness) on Dec. 21 of this year

6. There will be no nuclear attack on the USA this year

7. Earth will not divide into 2 separate realities or dimensions this year

8. The so-called PTB (who are not actually in charge) will not be exposed and deposed this year

9. Those who are actually in charge will remain in charge this year (and for the foreseeable future)

10. There will be no major depopulation mechanism unleashed this year

11. There will be no ET disclosure this year, nor ET invasion or take-over, since they've already owned the place long before humans were even dreamed up

12. There will be no significant changes in how we live this year


Cheers! :yo:


Well, as promised, I have returned on Jan 1, 2013, to see how the Oracle's predictions worked out. I guess one could say the proof is in the pudding (unless it's Jello Pudding, which is mainly proof that one should skip artificial pudding, but that's another subject).

:yo:

[ViralSpiral]

Ahhhh AB, so good to see you

Happy happy and all that....


Bob. Wot about carrots? Will it be a good season for growing carrots? :playball:

Jorr


;)

Bumping this thread was a treat! Thank you!


http://www.myemoticons.com/emoticon-critic/images/hug-and-kiss/blow-a-heart.gif

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[Gardener]

Aww :) God Bless Jorr I still miss him.
In retrospect it was a bad year for carrots Jorr.


Bob. Wot about carrots? Will it be a good season for growing carrots? :playball:

Jorr

[gripreaper]

Bob, thanks for this.

As you may be aware, the prognosticators are forming their predictions for 2013, and the momentum appears to be moving in the direction of 2013 being the year that the elite implement their globalist agenda and life as we know it changes forever. 2012 was just a distraction, to keep us occupied, and to subsequently get us to keep our noses to the grindstone, as cannon-fodder for the industrial war machine and the hidden agenda, without too much awareness seeping through.

Have they been successful, or is the awakening occurring in spite of their best efforts?

[another bob]

Ahhhh AB, so good to see you

Hiya Darlin'!

Hugs your way!

And yep -- que sera sera . . .




Aww :) God Bless Jorr I still miss him.
In retrospect it was a bad year for carrots Jorr.


Hiya Gardener!

Jorr doesn't need carrots (or sticks) where he's at now!




Have they been successful, or is the awakening occurring in spite of their best efforts?

Heya Grip!

Imo, we can probably expect more of the same, with perhaps just enough variation to persuade us that we haven't seen it all numerous times already in this same virtual reality game we've been playing for aeons. Civilizations rise and fall, whole world systems come into being, thrive for a while, and then vanish, like ripples on a pond. We are not the ripples, but as long as we identify with them, then we will suffer their fate. We'll even take turns playing good guys and bad guys, until we finally see through that whole set-up and move beyond the kiddie sand box and out into the waiting multiverse.

[CdnSirian]

As I watch the Rose Parade and think about people being blown up in far away places I feel cynical and despairing for a moment.

Then I remember the healing power of roses (and all plants) and realize there are a zillion roses being paraded in many art forms and being viewed, smelled, and applauded by millions and that this happens once a year and - what if this a calculated balance being manifested by --- could it be Us meaning all of us who wish the healing for ...Us?

I don't know and therefore I cannot state that this is not true.

A Stealth Bomber is doing a fly by and the crowd is screaming...over the Korean War Memorial float. Well ya know, it has been included for a healing reason that I am not qualified to comment on. I am happy for all the Koreans (as well as everyone) who survived that war and thank them for failing to shoot my dad's a$$.

[another bob]

Then I remember the healing power of roses...



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[CdnSirian]

Then I remember the healing power of roses...



http://i49.tinypic.com/21ackdf.jpg

Gorgeous! Thank You Bob!

[another bob]

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[Ba-ba-Ra]

OMG, I love this thread, because IMO what began as dry humor (which apparently some still haven't gotten or chose to ignore as they want to explore the possibilities) has turned into a wonderful "teaching thru humor" tool and a great reflection of where we each are.

AND, it's given me many smiles and a few laughs from your responses Another Bob

[Mark]

I dunno.

I REALLY like jello-pudding.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjrtsIY4WqQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt6IyMYcyZk

Jello Pudding. You can't be a kid (or a kid at heart) without it.

Happy New Year, Bredren. :grouphug:

[Chris Gilbert]

Pretty much every prediction here was true, the only one I would somewhat contest was 8, as the TPTB are in the process of being exposed and the public is "gradually" waking up to them more every day.

[another bob]

Rahkyt;609364]Jello Pudding. You can't be a kid (or a kid at heart) without it.


Or a chemist on the Big Pharma payroll, apparently . . . :eek:

Jello Pudding Ingredients Include: WATER, XYLITOL, MODIFIED CORNSTARCH (GMO SOURCE), COCOA PROCESSED WITH ALKALI, MILK PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, HYDROGENATED VEGETABLE OIL (COCONUT AND PALM KERNEL OILS), SALT, SODIUM STEAROYL LACTYLATE (TEXTURIZER), CALCIUM PHOSPHATE, SODIUM ALGINATE, SUCRALOSE (SPLENDA), ACESULFAME POTASSIUM, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR, ARTIFICIAL COLOR.



Happy New Year, Bredren. :grouphug:


Blessings to you and yours, always, Brother!

PS: Really enjoying your posts and especially your wonderful blog!




Pretty much every prediction here was true, the only one I would somewhat contest was 8, as the TPTB are in the process of being exposed and the public is "gradually" waking up to them more every day.

Been enjoying Oliver Stone's excellent series "The Untold History of the United Snakes"

http://www.sho.com/sho/oliver-stones-untold-history-of-the-united-states/home

[Chris Gilbert]

Admittingly I did experience a sense of cleansing and deep calm on the 21st. I'm uncertain how much of that was the date though as opposed to me making more of an effort than usual to mediate right at the exact time of the solstice and see if anything was different. I've experienced far deeper states during shaktipats and nature hikes...