Tania from the Avalon Forum interviews Bill Ryan about the alternative media

[Bill Ryan]

Hi, Folks:

Click here:
http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_Project_Avalon_Forum_18_July_2010.mp3
http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_Project_Avalon_Forum_18_July_2010.mp3

...for 90 minutes of interview by Tania, a longstanding Forum member, stepping up to the mike for the first time. And after the first very funny outtake (Enjoy :) - included with her generous permission), she did an outstanding job.

As I try to put into practice, in my opinion the role of the interviewer is to step back and create the space and energy for a good interview to manifest. Tania excelled at this.

The material covers the role of the alternative media, the situation in the Gulf of Mexico, what we can do to steer this planet towards a good outcome for us all - and much more.

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[theguardian]

Listening right now , Peace to both of you , good job

[Tuza]

My pc says I have to download Windows Media Player :confused: pick this recommended version, do this, do that, darn techs drive me crazy.

[Richard]

My pc says I have to download Windows Media Player :confused: pick this recommended version, do this, do that, darn techs drive me crazy.

You should be able to play it right from the OP now Tuza

[blue777]

Hello Bill great interview..however Intellectual honesty ,linked to the scientific method belongs to the Earth.,Higher Consciousness is not a scientific method ,it is an Intuitive , Metaphysical insight gained through suffering and conquering Fear and Ego , HELPED BY OUR HIGHER SELVES,which is linked to the heavens ,infinite frequencies.of harmonics....
therefore we all have to conquer the EGO and FEAR..............WALK=INS raise the frequencies.could this be the gem you are lookingt for?
regards
blue

[mike1414]

cool interview! many thanks for sharing...

loved the train interruption! :)

peace always
mike

[Operator]

Thanks, good and clear interview. I think it is indeed very timely to re-evaluate all the material that we have been bombarded with. It started to get a life on it's own.
Many researchers have said valuable things but as I have stated a couple of times before ... the more reliable they get ... the bigger the chance they will be infiltrated
or fed dis-info. Be prepared not to believe someone just because you like him/her but because you can verify what they say. The 'like' thing or building of credibility are
in some cases (unknowingly to the researcher in question) also preparations of TPTB ...

When e.g. Lindsey Williams was fed the info about the US$ 50 a barrel and it came through ... it looks like a classical example ... (and we could have known since it
was even crystal clear where the info was coming from).

[Fredkc]

Re. you're watching BBC World service, on the oil well being capped...
http://fredsitelive.com/fun/rofl.gif

You should have seen Wolf Blitkrieg on CNN for that one.
He basically did a free, 2 hour commercial for BP's wisdom and benevolence.

[sunflower]

Tania, Bill, thanks to both of you. It is reassuring to get updates from people whose integrity you can rely on and trust. (keeping in mind the Lindsey example:p)

[Agape]

Thank you Bill, you've said couple of very important things for everyone to understand , especially in the first hour ..

Recommended :P

[tone3jaguar]

Good words Bill, you are right on track with my train of thought about the whole deal.

[Fredkc]

http://fredsitelive.com/images/post/bump2.jpg

So this stays on the New Posts window.

Great job, Tania!

[Helvetic]

Well done! I realy like this statement from William Cooper what summerizes alot:

"Listen to everyone, read everything, believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research." -William Cooper

[smat]

Thanks Bill and Tania, I'm looking forward to listening to this. :)

[000]

Thanks to Bill & Tania very much for this. I am on the same page :tea:

[THIRDEYE]

bill and tonia thankyou for this excellent interview,and bill this jsut reinerates what you have said on the other post thankyou for the directions bill!!!!!love light and abundance,....thirdeye.....

[jeannacav]

I just listened to this excellent interview.
Thank you Tania and Bill.

In reference to how we all collectively create the reality we collectively experience, I want to restate something the way Alex Collier did last fall. He held both hands a little separate from each other and pointing out, and he said we need to "TURN" (and he turned his hands together to the side) into the direction we choose. (or words like that)
I think that this interview sums up so much of what we all went through this summer, and that the ptb know our power way better than we do, and are manipulating us to use OUR power for their purposes.
AND, we must never mind them and their attempts and just go in the direction we choose... using our power.

We know that if we even look at something we will create from that looking, so we don't stare.


I think we all know we want freedom and sovereignty for all Human Beings living on this beautiful pristine planet, and we can keep holding that picture while 'whatever it is' comes at us.
If we can see all their crazy stuff then say, "but this is how I want it" and picture some image that means this, we will be creating it fast and well.

Thank you everyone. I really love the people on this forum,

jeanna

[MargueriteBee]

I've had a feeling for a while that things we not as bad as presented. Just a hunch.

I would also question the economy. Is it REALLY as bad as they would have us believe? The economy where I live is doing good, no one out of work.

Anyway, thanks for a wonderful interview.

[Tuza]

Keep going all of you, we're winning I feel, their getting down because they are.

[Scott]

Great Interview
!!

[PINEAL-PILOT-IN MERKABAH]

Good words Bill, you are right on track with my train of thought about the whole deal.

bill i think we have all been on the same journey with you , what you said about the information in camelot is perfect. its exactly how i feel, this is one of the main reasons i have been lurking on this new forum a lot more. A lot of people who are new to this need to go through what we all went through as avalon started and grew. This is one of the most concise and forthright interviews you have ever done.

i think what we are getting at here is that the majority of the conspiracy media is total disinfo and tosh. i agree with you on channeling, and other new age stuff. The las tgreat thing you did as the original camelot was the exoploitics 2 part video discussion. i think most of the original avalonians saw it disintergrate from there on in and as you suspected camelot had been infiltrated. I like your fresh approach.keep up the good work.

[blue777]

If camelot is compromised, then Bill has to carry on as the rational source or left brain thinking , and the intuitive metaphysical aspect taken on by the members of this forum...right brain....the synthesis of light and sound , the union of opposites.....are you intuitive , metaphysical thinker?
lol
blue

[Bill Ryan]

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Updated Avalon main blog page (19 and 20 July) - to reflect the themes in the audio interview with Tania about the responsibility of the alternative media.

http://projectavalon.net

[greybeard]

The problem is that well intentioned people get a pet theory and ignore anything that does not confirm their theory to be right.
They are suspicious of contrary info and set out to prove it inaccurate.
The ego can always find supporting information --- for anything.
Lets face it the world is flat ---isn't it? Laughing.
Seriously though It was an excellent interview and its great that Bill is open minded and perceives when info is flawed and change his mind.
Chris

[Fredkc]

It's hard to understand how Matt Simmons is so wrong. He knows the difference between a blowout preventer and a riser. The very experienced observers on The Oil Drum Forum think that he has either lost his mind (genuinely), or has a financial interest and is deliberately trying to mislead.
Perhaps he has a large bet on wall street that BP's fortunes will take another dive ;)
Quien Sabe

[Bill Ryan]

Perhaps he has a large bet on wall street that BP's fortunes will take another dive ;)
Quien Sabe

He has - I just added the reference.

http://www.dailymarkets.com/stocks/2010/06/16/matt-simmons-shorting-at-least-8000-bp-shares-oil-spill-conflict-of-interest

http://blogs.barrons.com/stockstowatchtoday/2010/06/15/bp-simmons-still-sees-bankruptcy-massive-hole-at-the-well-bore

[Fredkc]

from the 2nd link:
Simmons has a 4,000-share short sale on BP that he picked up when the stock hit $37.
That’s in addition to a prior 4,000-share short sale he made at $48 a couple weeks prior. “It’s going to zero,” he says of BP stock.
Mind you, Simmons has an interest and a deep investment in moving beyond fossil fuels.
Link #1 also made reference the statement made by Baron's in link #2.

So he's been "shorting the stock" all the way down, while predicting doom & gloom.

I'm shocked, I tell ya... shocked.

[lightblue]

bill ryan:
Updated Avalon main blog page (19 and 20 July) - to reflect the themes in the audio interview with Tania about the responsibility of the alternative media.

http://projectavalon.net

with respect, but really, it is not difficult to lecture on how things should and/or should have not been presented as in retrospect...the fact remains - we have been misled by both the mainstream and alternative sources..the all important discernment and intuition failed us for the most part...this interview is in depth replica of bill's presentation as posted on the blog..whether we learned from this or not shall be seen in the next instance...to acknwledge we were wrong one time is not to say we can't be wrong again.... :yu:l

[Dougall]

This is outstanding! Bill Ryan has been the best source for real info on the Gulf Oil Disaster, bar none.
Just follow the facts, that story will be as amazing as any dreamed of.

[lightblue]

i think the interview was choreographed...
the interviewer served as a vehicle for bill's monologue in essence....you can tell they had each other's notes...kerry's put her observations in a similar format too...i find those uneventful :rolleyes: l

[blue777]

i think the interview was choreographed...
the interviewer served as a vehicle for bill's monologue in essence....you can tell they had each other's notes...kerry's put her observations in a similar format too...i find those uneventful :rolleyes: l

I disagree,
I thought it was a honest and well put together interview...obviously Bill has to talk more , he has more experience and knowledge to give out...
lets keep positive shall we
blue

[Bill Ryan]

I think the interview was choreographed...
the interviewer served as a vehicle for bill's monologue in essence....you can tell they had each other's notes...

You can? Anyone who knows me knows I never use notes!

I knew what I wanted to talk about, and so did Tania. We'd discussed the interview beforehand. That's normal.

The interviewer's job is to provide a format and provide support for the interviewee to tell a story or make a presentation.

It's not a police interrogation. It's not even always a conversation. Sometimes it IS almost a monologue - and that's fine. My interviews with Marcel Messing and David Icke were like that. This is not a conspiracy. :)

[lightblue]

I disagree,
I thought it was a honest and well put together interview...obviously Bill has to talk more , he has more experience and knowledge to give out...
lets keep positive shall we
blue

i am neither sad nor happy you disagree.

i am not dismissive of bill's inlsights, i do not like the format in which it was put (increasingly popular on kerry's site too)... i don't like your patronising tone either, but hey, if that's how you feel, why not air it...

using this format to sumarisie what was alreay said on the forum and elsewhere, i continue to experience as an idle step - neither backward nor forward...i appreciete you'll disagree again..

best wishes :) l

[lightblue]

bill:
It's not a police interrogation. It's not even always a conversation. Sometimes it IS almost a monologue - and that's fine. My interviews with Marcel Messing and David Icke were like that. This is not a conspiracy.

fair comment.

only, it must be said that you very skilfully and gently geared the chat with both messing and icke, to where you wanted it to go ..though charming, your interviewer here did not convince she had a similar initiative... best wishes :yu: l

[magnusthor]

Excellent interview. Would be nice to, perhaps, have an update like this every couple of weeks or so.
Any info on when the interview with Hellyer will be up, Bill?
Been looking forward to that (and updating the main page quite a few times today for this reason).
This video of his is a standard one I show when introducing people to this kind of material: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGyFWyNuF3s

[blue777]

i am neither sad nor happy you disagree.

i am not dismissive of bill's inlsights, i do not like the format in which it was put (increasingly popular on kerry's site too)... i don't like your patronising tone either, but hey, if that's how you feel, why not air it...

using this format to sumarisie what was alreay said on the forum and elsewhere, i continue to experience as an idle step - neither backward nor forward...i appreciete you'll disagree again..

best wishes :) l
:

I don't like your patronising tone either, but hey
You obviously do not know me, I do not patronise anyone...
I thought it was a honest and well put together interview...obviously Bill has to talk more , he has more experience and knowledge to give out.
Do you write in big letters to match up with your ego...
p.s..
Bill ad -libs a lot of the time , makes the interview more interesting
lol
blue..
l

[PINEAL-PILOT-IN MERKABAH]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYazOZq1Dhs&playnext_from=TL&videos=ImKaMpg0SRs&feature=sub

someone else who shares the veiw i have on corexit and its effects (worse then the spill)

[lightblue]

blue777:
:I don't like your patronising tone either, but hey
You obviously do not know me, I do not patronise anyone...
I thought it was a honest and well put together interview...obviously Bill has to talk more , he has more experience and knowledge to give out.
Do you write in big letters to match up with your ego...
p.s..
Bill ad -libs a lot of the time , makes the interview more interesting
lol
blue..

it's always best to not go off topic and not get personal...
regards :wink: l

[PINEAL-PILOT-IN MERKABAH]

bill do you have anymore updates from your sources on the oil spills/gas leaks/plumes.. cAnt seem to find any updates.. now china has quite a large one too.. i think still its the use of the (basically bio weapon) corexit thats the bad news here.

[Bill Ryan]

bill do you have anymore updates from your sources on the oil spills/gas leaks/plumes.. cAnt seem to find any updates.. now china has quite a large one too.. i think still its the use of the (basically bio weapon) corexit thats the bad news here.

Best source of reliable information is The Oil Drum Forum:

http://theoildrum.com/node/6766

Their thread system is different from this forum: when a long page has about 300-400 posts (which happens several times a day) - all different threads woven together on one page - they start a new page, which is linked at the top.

So the URL for the open thread page is always changing.

There are some very smart cookies there, and the level of debate is very high quality - they are very experienced and well-informed and do not suffer fools gladly. But if you want to understand what's really happening, read it carefully: that's the place to go.

[kinsuemei2]

Tania did a wonderful job, people love to talk about how this is arranged or if it's from the hip, seriously who cares? the fact is questions were asked and questions were answered, hell if Bill wants to talk he does not need an interview he can simply create a video blog for you-tube, and do it that way, but as it went Tania did the interview and she did a wonderful job, she let Bill talk and I felt directed the action in the right place. The interview was not to long but it was to the point, and it did not beat around the bush. whilst my own veiws on science vastly differ from Bills I believe its all going towards the same goal and perspective, so two thumbs up Bill great interview, and why on earth do people think David Icke is a freemason? Thats like the Queen of england being a east coast rapper, it does not make sense! The Freemasons make it perfectly clear what and who they want within their ranks and David fits none of those demographics in fact they tend to pull away from publicity. First he was crazy then an antisemetic now he is a Mason, next he will be a reptilian and the love and light brigade will grab their pitchforks and go after him like shrek.

[Anchor]

Bill,

I liked the interview you did with Tania. Tania did an optimal job. I was reminded of some of the better red-ice interviews.

What really captured me was what you got into in the closing 40 minutes - quite a nice "spiritual" focus and the contemplation about the nature of co-creation and that is why the (non-human) powers that be require us to be lied to and effectively "tricked" into creating thier agenda instead of that which would otherwise be our own (and a lot nicer and easier!).

Thier main tools is fear.

The control is loosening in steps, they are failing more and more, and they will fail.

John..

[iceni tribe]

Bill , that was a great interview and just reinforces my 100% faith in what you are trying to do. keep on keeping on.

[jimmer]

I listened twice, just to really get it.
lots of on the beam commentary,especially on the alternative media, bill.
and thanks tania for your good work. that took some real moxie. you did good.
I for one got swept away with the doomsday hype over the oil spill.
while I'm certain that BP has and still shields the absolute truth,
the end result was nothing like the 'nuke it' option that I was resigned to.
as bill so adroitly posed, we all need to be wary and inquisitive of 'insider' opinions/predictions/fascinations.
well noted and schooled.

[CuppaJoe]

Loved the interview. What nice voices they both have. You can tell a lot about how a person's voice makes you feel.

Maybe this duo will give us a few more interviews in the future??

Well done, Bill and Tania!

[K626]

Very refreshing and some authentic and well articulated replies from Bill.

[PINEAL-PILOT-IN MERKABAH]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVbSU0I8zL8&feature=sub&videos=LH_haMbUlgU

does anyone have a definitive answer for this.? all oil dispersed?

[Atlas]

Bill Ryan and the Alternative Media (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBGMRSUyOcI)


http://vimeo.com/178365672

[Flash]

I had never listen to this interview - I amazed I had not.

I entirely trust and know that Bill DOES NOT NEED to use notes. His brain is fast and organised enough not to need notes.

Most of well informed, brain smart and well articulate people I have met do not need notes for their speeches/interviews. They will sometimes use a very wide sketch, that is about it.

Take for example David Suzuki during his conferences, Nassim Haraneim, Joseph Farell, even Anthony Robins, and many more, none uses notes. They just know their topic by heart and can deliver or argument on it very easily. Same for high level experts in any field.

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As for my own comments, i found this interview exceptionally good, concise, articulate, and the thinking beneath it well organised and strong.

I also truly appreciate your plea to the alternative media and to the people in it to do thorough research when talking/showing/presenting something and to push away all the garbage there is on the web, garbage playing havoc with our brains and comprehension/attention abilities.

And it has only gone worst since 2010 it seems.

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I would add my own comment on the topic of alternative media. Since 2007, when I started to read some forum, and later to participate, I have seen a drift towards overwhelming disinformation, often coming from people highly emotional with little comprehension of what they are doing, having not done the effort of analysis and of taking an emotional distance. Well intentioned people, doing the wrong thing.

I also have notice a huge amount of trolls, probably often paid ones, to start some fire somewhere then to leave it to the highly emotional ones to continue spreading it. Hear me, emotions are good and necessary, as long as they are filled with consciousness. Otherwise, they remain a primitive, usable by the cabal, tool.

Finally, I have also notice that forums are on the down slope of web information gathering and circulation. Alghough analysis can go much further in a forum, information gathering and circulation is much faster and efficient with other means, namely to my dismay Facebook, twitter, etc. I have gather more coherent alternative information from these lately than from any forum. I would therefore propose to Avalon to have a facebook/twitter account, put info in there and push people to come and discuss it in forum format in here. And yes, the facebook page may at one point be closed, which would be ok, since everyone would readily understand why. And I know you all already tought of it most probably and that you may have your reason for not doing it .... sigh.

Thanks for reading me

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Oh, by the way, the translation into French subtitles is not only good, it is truly excellent. All the nuances are taken into account.






I think the interview was choreographed...
the interviewer served as a vehicle for bill's monologue in essence....you can tell they had each other's notes...

You can? Anyone who knows me knows I never use notes!

I knew what I wanted to talk about, and so did Tania. We'd discussed the interview beforehand. That's normal.

The interviewer's job is to provide a format and provide support for the interviewee to tell a story or make a presentation.

It's not a police interrogation. It's not even always a conversation. Sometimes it IS almost a monologue - and that's fine. My interviews with Marcel Messing and David Icke were like that. This is not a conspiracy. :)

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Finally, I have also notice that forums are on the down slope of web information gathering and circulation. Alghough analysis can go much further in a forum, information gathering and circulation is much faster and efficient with other means, namely to my dismay Facebook, twitter, etc. I have gather more coherent alternative information from these lately than from any forum. I would therefore propose to Avalon to have a facebook/twitter account, put info in there and push people to come and discuss it in forum format in here. And yes, the facebook page may at one point be closed, which would be ok, since everyone would readily understand why. And I know you all already tought of it most probably and that you may have your reason for not doing it .... sigh.


There is a Facebook page for Project Avalon and Bill Ryan. I believe it is bogus. Is that right Bill?

[Atlas]

@10.45: "we demand the trillions are returned"

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Lobbying delivers staggering rewards for top players
https://whipboard.co/2016/07/billions-invested-trillions-returned-congressional-lobbying-efforts/
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@6:54: "This isn't a simple hoax"


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[Bill Ryan]

Finally, I have also notice that forums are on the down slope of web information gathering and circulation. Alghough analysis can go much further in a forum, information gathering and circulation is much faster and efficient with other means, namely to my dismay Facebook, twitter, etc. I have gather more coherent alternative information from these lately than from any forum. I would therefore propose to Avalon to have a facebook/twitter account, put info in there and push people to come and discuss it in forum format in here. And yes, the facebook page may at one point be closed, which would be ok, since everyone would readily understand why. And I know you all already tought of it most probably and that you may have your reason for not doing it .... sigh.


There is a Facebook page for Project Avalon and Bill Ryan. I believe it is bogus. Is that right Bill?


Hi there, Ron: no, actually not bogus at all. Assuming you reach the right page (there may be fake versions that are bogus, of course), it's run by Mark Holford (Avalon member Lyricus (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?269-Lyricus)), but I leave it 100% to him and never visit or add anything there myself.

I do see that Mark hasn't logged into Avalon since December, so I have exactly zero idea what, if anything, is on the Avalon Facebook page. I don't even have its address to hand. I have very little working knowledge of Facebook (and even less tolerance or faith in it!), and dislike Facebook intensely, so, all told, I'm afraid I'm really not the best person to ask about it. :)

[Limor Wolf]

Bill Ryan and the Alternative Media (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBGMRSUyOcI)


http://vimeo.com/178365672

Thank you for bumping this thread, Atlas, seems like a good and concise, accurate and sensitive observtion from Bill, and not many times that I heard him relate to the Alien agenda on Earth and it's relation to all areas of our life (was it in 2012?). The planet X aspect may be looked at from a different perspective as well that is more multidimensional perheps, it is posible to land on the moon or Mars and conclude that there is no viable life out there, while it's teaming with life that rotate/vibrate in a faster way than our human eyes can grasp, and the planetary life around us is such.

It was much apprecited to hear Bill speaks about the various capacities that people have with different contributions, that 'the future is not fixed', that 'we all the time are the 'engines' that creates the future' , and that by the attention we give we vote to what will happen tomorrow. That is a beneficial universal knowledge.


Originally posted by Bill Ryan :"we have to work together on this, and we have to be willing to be wrong"

That is much appreciated as well, from here we can learn and move forward, so very true to all of us

This is a beautiful important segment. Thank you very much for that ~

[RunningDeer]

Finally, I have also notice that forums are on the down slope of web information gathering and circulation. Alghough analysis can go much further in a forum, information gathering and circulation is much faster and efficient with other means, namely to my dismay Facebook, twitter, etc. I have gather more coherent alternative information from these lately than from any forum. I would therefore propose to Avalon to have a facebook/twitter account, put info in there and push people to come and discuss it in forum format in here. And yes, the facebook page may at one point be closed, which would be ok, since everyone would readily understand why. And I know you all already tought of it most probably and that you may have your reason for not doing it .... sigh.

There is a Facebook page for Project Avalon and Bill Ryan. I believe it is bogus. Is that right Bill?


Hi there, Ron: no, actually not bogus at all. Assuming you reach the right page (there may be fake versions that are bogus, of course), it's run by Mark Holford (Avalon member Lyricus (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?269-Lyricus)), but I leave it 100% to him and never visit or add anything there myself.

I do see that Mark hasn't logged into Avalon since December, so I have exactly zero idea what, if anything, is on the Avalon Facebook page. I don't even have its address to hand. I have very little working knowledge of Facebook (and even less tolerance or faith in it!), and dislike Facebook intensely, so, all told, I'm afraid I'm really not the best person to ask about it. :)

FYI: Lyrics has the "Official Project Avalon FaceBook (https://www.facebook.com/OfficialProjectAvalon)" address posted on his message board. I don't have a FB account, but I was able to view the site.

https://www.facebook.com/OfficialProjectAvalon

[Shannon]

Finally, I have also notice that forums are on the down slope of web information gathering and circulation. Alghough analysis can go much further in a forum, information gathering and circulation is much faster and efficient with other means, namely to my dismay Facebook, twitter, etc. I have gather more coherent alternative information from these lately than from any forum. I would therefore propose to Avalon to have a facebook/twitter account, put info in there and push people to come and discuss it in forum format in here. And yes, the facebook page may at one point be closed, which would be ok, since everyone would readily understand why. And I know you all already tought of it most probably and that you may have your reason for not doing it .... sigh.


There is a Facebook page for Project Avalon and Bill Ryan. I believe it is bogus. Is that right Bill?


Hi there, Ron: no, actually not bogus at all. Assuming you reach the right page (there may be fake versions that are bogus, of course), it's run by Mark Holford (Avalon member Lyricus (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?269-Lyricus)), but I leave it 100% to him and never visit or add anything there myself.

I do see that Mark hasn't logged into Avalon since December, so I have exactly zero idea what, if anything, is on the Avalon Facebook page. I don't even have its address to hand. I have very little working knowledge of Facebook (and even less tolerance or faith in it!), and dislike Facebook intensely, so, all told, I'm afraid I'm really not the best person to ask about it. :)

I'm the same, I have a page. I don't know what it looks like cause I haven't been to it in about 4 years. I cannot stand facebook.