Benjamin Fulford's posts and reports

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Fulford has been right more than wrong. He has not been wrong ~ the landscape changes and he reports what he knows in his experience quite openly and honestly. Check out his latest video for QUIET reflection (posted below). It's the best suggestion out there at present. Incidentally, news concerning a major change at the Fed possibly regarding Nesara is supposed to be announced on Sunday or Monday. I am passing along this expectation and nothing more ~ it's in the chatter this weekend. BTW, have a great one! Be well~! xoxox

g0PzRNhCofc

@Shiva777 ~ the QUIET reflection was for you, sweetheart ~ Your opinion of my posts isn't an issue ~ I am sharing only and not participating further in your negative dialog, its not fulfilling at all for you or anyone else ; )

[shiva777]

Fulford "more right than wrong"...Nesara?...any evidence of either being a reality [mod-edit: text removed - let us treat our fellow members with respect - Paul.]

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

Darla
I'm not getting your video. Its a blank screen.

[MariaDine]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Bondsteel
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^ Peter Schwarz (2008-12-01). "Kosovo’s dirty secret: the background to Germany’s Secret Service affair". http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11239. Retrieved 2009-01-31. "The German report is particular critical of the role of the US, which had obstructed European investigations and which had been opened up to political extortion by the existence of secret CIA detention centres in the grounds of Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo,” writes Weltwoche. “Doubts are growing about the American methods and also as a result of the ‘serious’ description of a high-ranking German UN police officer that the main task of UNMIK’s second in command, American Steve Schook, is ‘to get drunk with Ramush Haradinaj once a week’."

Hum...an old story ?!

Namasté

[Rocky_Shorz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0PzRNhCofc

Here is the video Darla posted...

[ThePythonicCow]

Darla
I'm not getting your video. Its a blank screen.

I just fixed Darla's video link - it should work now.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Thats a copy of a 2009 interview Darla ...

But something is cooking though... ;-)

viking

[loveandgratitude]

I support Darla on this one. Go back to study Fulford's videos from the past. He has been right more than wrong. And things do change, constantly. Project Avalon is a forum for open minded people who are expanding their minds through education and experience. Some times I think I have chimed into Fox News Forum with the types of comments posted by closed minds. We are in times of availble expansion....USE IT.

Refuse to live in the negatives, the proabably nots,the maybes, Harness your own power of probabilities. If someone if feeding you "OUT THERE" probabilities, that are in the interest of mankind, allow your mind to expand with those probabilities. Step outside your prisons, the prisons that you have made for yourselves.

See the walls disappearing and step into your own POWER. Tha is what Fulford has done and I wish we had more people like him to allow people to expand past their fears and naysaying addictions.

Anything is possible at the moment. Doors are opening and very soon you are going to witness things you never thought possible.

PLEASE STAY OPEN TO POSSIBILITIES AND ALLOW A NEW WAY OF THINKING TO EVOLVE

[modwiz]

The video Darla posted is a most interesting one. You can see Leo is trying to convince us that there are those Illuminati who understand they have been despicable and will make amends. Leo looks almost desperate to make his point while not committing to anything that Ben is trying to posit.

Leo is nervous because he has had a vision, and in it he has seen himself and others of his ilk dangling at the end of ropes. It clearly makes him very uncomfortable. :madgrin:

I am all for forgiveness if they give us a reason to do so.

Stopping all their murderous wars and exploitive nonsense with our money and supply systems would be a wonderful way to begin the process.

[jorr lundstrom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0PzRNhCofc

Here is the video Darla posted...

I remember the two elder guys on the balcony in the Muppet Show. Hmmmmmmmm

This video is one year old. Clowns. LOL

[Icecold]

Alan Watt believes that Benjamin Fulford is a fraud


http://cuttingthrough.jenkness.com/C..._May142008.mp3

Listen at around 33 mins. Call from Florida.

Alan Watt's site....
www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com

[Icecold]

E-mail from Whistleblower:

=====


Dear Hobie,


Reference to the recent article of Ben Fulford, as referred to below, it is considered that this article provokes and warrants a full response in the interests of the public. Please be kind enough to post same to the RMN Board.


** Ben Fulford: "United Nations, Alan Greenspan now implicated in $134.5 billion bond scandal" / OITC **

Posted By: hobie

Date: Tuesday, 10-Aug-2010 14:29:26



Mr Fulford, you have certainly excelled yourself with this article that is full of supposition, conjecture and falsities, and for which a full response is warranted from me.



I should also note herein, for the purpose of public interest, that you should be awarded “First Prize” on this one for the biggest load of Conjecture, Supposition, and Falsities, for the purpose of misleading the public at large, which have been publicized for many years.



I would like to say Mr Fulford, that “you have learnt well little one” in the art of Chinese philosophy, referring specifically to the “attack as a means of defence”, but, if I may say so, your attack is totally unjustified and one that will probably haunt you for a very long time.



You see Mr Fulford, we have not been standing idling by doing nothing on this issue, whereby our own investigations reference to all the persons involved have been continuing in earnest, to supplement our already substantial records of this matter. These persons include, you, Akihiko Yamaguchi, Mitsuyoshi Watanabe, Neil Keenan, Gen. Keith Alexander, Gen, Myers, Bill Clinton, Hans Horst, Dona Abdurrahim, Ibrahim Ghonaim, Guiseppe, and many others involved in this enormous unlawful and illicit operation which you claim, without any proof whatsoever, is lawful in an attempt to legitimise the unlawful activities you are involved with, and to defend yourself and the others involved.



From previous investigations (2005) it has been established from official records that Akihiko Yamaguchi was indeed an Official at the Japanese Ministry of Finance back in 1983. However, based upon the illegal acts performed by him whilst in the employ of the Ministry of Finance, he was arrested, charged, convicted and imprisoned for a very serious Fraud he had committed.

He spent 12 years, approximately, in prison being released 1996/7, only to carry on with his fraudulent activities in his own right as a “Broker”.



Akihiko Yamaguchi was passed these instruments, unlawfully I add, by an ex Finance Minister of Japan, Mr Hiroshi Mitsuzuka and Ex Prime Minister of Japan, Mr Keizo Obuchi. It is not known whether this was a direct or indirect passing. Both the ex Minister of Finance, Mr Hiroshi Mitsuzuka and the ex Prime Minister, Mr Keizo Obuchi are now deceased persons. The cause of death is not known but I do question whether it was by the traditional Japanese Method based upon any involvement by them within unlawful activities, or whether it was natural.

If Akihiko Yamaguchi had any credibility at all he would be able, based upon his former position at the Japanese Ministry of Finance, to walk into any top world rated bank anywhere in the world with total confidence and without fear. However, this is not the case Mr Fulford, whereby, based upon the fact of his criminal record, Akihiko Yamaguchi has no alternative but to utilize innocent and naïve persons, who generally would be referred to as “Financial Brokers”, in his attempts to utilize these Bonds / Certificates for personal financial gain, both for himself and all others involved, including you Mr. Fulford, as listed upon the detailed list of payments, in our possession executed by Akihiko Yamaguchi, to be made from the returns of “Trade”, with only 10% actually being used for projects.

Mr Mitsuyoshi Watanabe appears to have similar defects. Formerly an officer with Merryl Lynch Bank, he now accompanies Akihiko Yamaguchi on all the travels abroad.



Why, if this is totally genuine, as claimed by you Mr Fulford, do they not go direct to Merryl Lynch. Perhaps it is because they can not do so based upon past unlawful activities, and the fact that both Yamaguchi and Watanabe are “Blacklisted” which would be a reasonable assumption by anyone, under the circumstances.

Please allow me to make another point Mr Fulford, that being, and as officially stated and documented, quote “ The US Treasury Department as well as Federal Reserve Bank do rule out that YAMAGUCHI and WATANABE are (or have been) reliable employees or co-workers, and more precisely, that neither the Federal Reserve Bank nor the Federal Reserve System do make use of dismissed agents or reliable staff in order to act in their name”.


Let me also reiterate to you Mr. Fulford, something written by yourself both on the Community Boards and in personal correspondence to me, quote “Our group includes a Chinese secret society with over 6 million members (including 1.8 million gangsters, 100,000 assassins and Politburo members), the British Royal Family and their Freemasons, the Sicilian black nobility (who control the Vatican and the Mafia), the Black Dragon (kokuryu 黒龍会)　Society, the Japanese Yakuza and others. The Black Dragon and Chinese Secret societies combined can mobilize, if necessary, the 100 million people currently associated with martial arts societies around the world”.


the rest is here..........

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=180522

[jorr lundstrom]

E-mail from Whistleblower:

=====


Dear Hobie,


Reference to the recent article of Ben Fulford, as referred to below, it is considered that this article provokes and warrants a full response in the interests of the public. Please be kind enough to post same to the RMN Board.


** Ben Fulford: "United Nations, Alan Greenspan now implicated in $134.5 billion bond scandal" / OITC **

Posted By: hobie

Date: Tuesday, 10-Aug-2010 14:29:26

[Mod-edit: excess quoted material trimmed. - Paul.]



How can they use so hard words about little Benji? LMAO

[ThePythonicCow]

Please don't delete this post.
I wouldn't think of doing that, Ice ;).

[modwiz]

This post has been edited before Paul could do it. :fencing:

[ThePythonicCow]

Alan Watt believes that Benjamin Fulford is a fraud

http://cuttingthrough.jenkness.com/CTTM/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_107_Shortly_Food_Supplements_to_Keep_You_Healthy_will_be_Prescription-Only_and_for_the_Wealthy_Apr282008.mp3

http://cuttingthrough.jenkness.com/CTTM/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_114_Your_Neighbourhood_Snoopers_are_Such_Party_Poopers_May142008.mp3

Alan Watt's site....
www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com

Er .. eh .. where does Alan Watt's make any mention of Benjamin Fulford in these two audio's (three years old) or on his website?

[Snowbird]

The video Darla posted is a most interesting one. You can see Leo is trying to convince us that there are those Illuminati who understand they have been despicable and will make amends. Leo looks almost desperate to make his point while not committing to anything that Ben is trying to posit.

Leo is nervous because he has had a vision, and in it he has seen himself and others of his ilk dangling at the end of ropes. It clearly makes him very uncomfortable. :madgrin:

I am all for forgiveness if they give us a reason to do so.

Stopping all their murderous wars and exploitive nonsense with our money and supply systems would be a wonderful way to begin the process.

Forgiveness is a very good thing and we should all practice this.

I have read and heard that there exist those in the Chinese and perhaps now Japanese higher echelons who have visions a bit more severe for these. There have been a few things highlighted.

Leo and company assume (in capital letters) that they need not be concerned with local, national, international and universal laws. I really believe that they believe that they transcend these laws because they are living in splendor at the expense of others....us.

If we must follow these laws and be reprimanded when we don't, they should also. Their self made specialness exceeds even basic reason.

I keep hearing about how they should be brought before a truth and reconciliation commission whereby they are expected to tell the truth and if sincere about it, they should be let go and forgiven. I say, if this be the case, then every person being held against their will in prisons, torture areas, the world militarys and jails should also be allowed to have this same opportunity to right their wrongs and go forward in life. I very much believe in equal opportunity. :whip:

[Icecold]

Listen at around 33 mins to response to caller. Discussing China and Fulford's video.

Watts says it is rubbish.

http://cuttingthrough.jenkness.com/C..._May142008.mp3

Alan Watt's site....
www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com

[loveandgratitude]

There was a time when you could be killed as a heritic if you said the world was round. You were a nutter, a lunatic, nobody would have ever believed you.

[Chicodoodoo]

Concerning the Fulford video Darla posted:

I am surely being biased here, but I’m hearing the United People movement all over this video. Some excerpts:

something that brings us all together
the end of the fighting… the end of the killing…
changes that anybody can understand
we can all come together and figure out how we want this planet to be
nobody wants to prevail on no one
we want to work together for a common understanding
nobody can prevail and say “I have the ultimate truth”
the truth comes only from working together under a common denominator which is love
the very important thing is the Golden Rule
we want harmony on this planet and an end to the horrors
bring man together under a common bond
we cannot have secrecy
actions, not words

[Ross]

A suitcase nuclear device has been placed near Camp Bondsteel

We have received, from a very credible source, information that a suitcase nuclear device has been placed near the US Camp Bondsteel military base in Kosovo. The source, who goes by the code-name Alexander, says the base must be evacuated by 4 PM on April 4th.

We have also heard from different sources in China that China is ready to send a 200 million man army through Pakistan and into the Middle East unless the Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate members in control of the United States government withdraw their forces

What a complete load on nonsense..

Why on earth even post such rubbish? please tell? It may be more interesting than the garbage I just read above.

Ross

[Icecold]

We as a community have a responsibility to the readership if we engage in disclosing previously unknown facts. We need to be very discriminating or our reputation will suffer accordingly. That fact seems obvious. It is proper that we examine fantastic or unrealistic claims in open forum. It is a credibility issue.

[Ross]

A suitcase nuclear device has been placed near Camp Bondsteel

We have received, from a very credible source, information that a suitcase nuclear device has been placed near the US Camp Bondsteel military base in Kosovo. The source, who goes by the code-name Alexander, says the base must be evacuated by 4 PM on April 4th.

We have also heard from different sources in China that China is ready to send a 200 million man army through Pakistan and into the Middle East unless the Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate members in control of the United States government withdraw their forces

What a complete load on nonsense..

Why on earth even post such rubbish? please tell? It may be more interesting than the garbage I just read above.

Ross


Also what is this thread doing in "News and Updates"?

[gigha]

:bored::fish2::peep: Just seemed right.

[loveandgratitude]

Well let us ask Project Camelot to prove all the video they have made as well. Nueman going to the moon and mars. Teleporting. Underground bases. How can we put up with all this rubbish. We must have evidence. Facts. If not, we will not believe a word of it.

Was not the aim of this Forum was to bring information that the main stream media does not report. To bring information to people who were searching for new and exciting ideas that took them from mind controlled zombies to free thinkers who are able to expand with new information.

To present out of the box info so people could make up their own minds without the naysayers ridiculing and shooting down messangers.

Come on folks, lets stay open to new and wonderful ideas and maybe just maybe we can enter a new dimension of reality where amazing things are possible.

[ThePythonicCow]

Why on earth even post such rubbish? please tell?
It is one thing to question something posted as being rubbish. I just did that myself a few minutes ago in another post involving Nassim Haramein.

It is another thing to question the motives of the poster. That is less likely to be helpful.

[Ross]

We have also heard from different sources in China that China is ready to send a 200 million man army through Pakistan and into the Middle East unless the Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate members in control of the United States government withdraw their forces

Sadly, SOME of the alternative media, whistleblowers and "sources" are as bogus and corrupt as any other form of mainstream information. This is the reality we have to deal with.

Critical thinking is paramount in order to come to some form of commonsense and rational. The above quoted example is plain to see as complete rubbish and posting such rubbish does at least highlight this kind of ridiculous nonsense portrayed by some as a form of "source" that is worth reading. That I am thankful for.

Ross

[Ross]

Why on earth even post such rubbish? please tell?
It is one thing to question something posted as being rubbish. I just did that myself a few minutes ago in another post involving Nassim Haramein.

It is another thing to question the motives of the poster. That is less likely to be helpful.


Paul,

My question is valid and worth a response from the poster, as to why post such nonsense, particularly this part:


We have also heard from different sources in China that China is ready to send a 200 million man army through Pakistan and into the Middle East unless the Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate members in control of the United States government withdraw their forces

Why? what is the point, what is the motive? I wish to hear the rational, 200 million man army... please enlighten me as to the worth of posting such rubbish.

I do concede that the OP did state in the thread title as "out there" even for fulford...perhaps I'm just growing impatient with some info that is been posted.


Ross

[ThePythonicCow]

why post such nonsenseWell, even the original poster acknowledged, in the Title of this thread, that this was "Out there even for Fulford" ;)

When someone has been given some credence by some of us here, as Benjamin Fulford has, then it could make sense to post more of his comments, until we realize that his signal (useful comments) to noise (blarney) ratio is too low to be worth continuing to track.

I will grant that it is a worthy question to ask the original poster what was their motive.

I did sense a risk that the outrage I detected in your phrasing of that question could be taken as a negative personal comment by the original poster.

[Etherios]

He says something about boiling waters and Japan scientist discovering waves headed to mount Fuji ... can this be connected to the new volcanoes than erupt almost daily in Japan?

ascendingstarseed Posted in an other Thread... (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?299-Earth-Changes-2010-to-Date&p=189829&viewfull=1#post189829)

[Belle]

Critical thinking and discernment is needed in all information we come across. For example, the "Email from Whistleblower" article...it might help to know that there is a history of accusations and "mud slinging" having to do with the OITC between Ben and Whistleblower for years. It's like a dance...Ben accuses, Whistleblower denies; Whistleblower accuses, Ben denies. What is truth and what is baseless? That's our part to figure out, hopefully together without our own mud slinging party going on.

[Billy]

I hope it is OK to post our new video here. on topic as far as humanity making a mess of our beautiful planet.

Time for change. enjoy Zero Year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuoY3d37Bjg

[Snowbird]

We have also heard from different sources in China that China is ready to send a 200 million man army through Pakistan and into the Middle East unless the Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate members in control of the United States government withdraw their forces

Sadly, SOME of the alternative media, whistleblowers and "sources" are as bogus and corrupt as any other form of mainstream information. This is the reality we have to deal with.

Critical thinking is paramount in order to come to some form of commonsense and rational. The above quoted example is plain to see as complete rubbish and posting such rubbish does at least highlight this kind of ridiculous nonsense portrayed by some as a form of "source" that is worth reading. That I am thankful for.

Ross

How do we not know that SOMEone in China made these statements? What he is saying is that he has heard that SOMEone made this statement. Is he stating that this is absolute truth? No. Its merely conjecture at this point.

Just perhaps, someone in this reading audience knows more about this point of conjecture. If so, we will learn more about it. Why keep something like that to himself, if others knowing about this idea will help someone somewhere.

That's my take on this and I stand by it!!:argue: :yo:

[Snowbird]

I didn't say he couldn't...I asked WHY???..lol

Fulford is OBVIOUSLY not worth listening to...do a little research,look at his track record and then ask yourself..why would people continue to post stuff from Fulford ?....it doesn't take an expert to discern that Fulford is hardly ever right,it just takes someone who bothers to look at what he has said in the past and at how inaccurate and ridiculous it has been.

Do you really think a 200 million strong chinese army is going to come to the rescue...lol..I know that people love sensationalistic easy solutions to things but isn't that just a little ridiculous?

Not necessarily. It is most likely a posturing threat. The Chinese are famous for this. However, they don't have a 200 million personnel army. In 2005, the number of troops available for military service overall, was 2,883,828. They had 290,000 active personnel and 1,675,000 reserve personnel.

Hardly 200 million.

[Billy]

We have also heard from different sources in China that China is ready to send a 200 million man army through Pakistan and into the Middle East unless the Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate members in control of the United States government withdraw their forces

Sadly, SOME of the alternative media, whistleblowers and "sources" are as bogus and corrupt as any other form of mainstream information. This is the reality we have to deal with.

Critical thinking is paramount in order to come to some form of commonsense and rational. The above quoted example is plain to see as complete rubbish and posting such rubbish does at least highlight this kind of ridiculous nonsense portrayed by some as a form of "source" that is worth reading. That I am thankful for.

Ross

How do we not know that SOMEone in China made these statements? What he is saying is that he has heard that SOMEone made this statement. Is he stating that this is absolute truth? No. Its merely conjecture at this point.

Just perhaps, someone in this reading audience knows more about this point of conjecture. If so, we will learn more about it. Why keep something like that to himself, if others knowing about this idea will help someone somewhere.

That's my take on this and I stand by it!!:argue: :yo:

" Someone" could be another Sorcha comment, maybe not but it rings bells.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1466.htm

[Rocky_Shorz]

We as a community have a responsibility to the readership if we engage in disclosing previously unknown facts. We need to be very discriminating or our reputation will suffer accordingly. That fact seems obvious. It is proper that we examine fantastic or unrealistic claims in open forum. It is a credibility issue.

That is exactly what a truth seeker forum is all about...

we may be known to Whistleblowers as shredders, but we learn from all of them...

from the same letter...


Let me also quote part of a transcript of a verbal conversation (recorded) you had with a person on this issue Mr. Fulford, and yes, you should not be at all surprised to know we do have numerous transcripts of conversations by Yamaguchi, Watanabe, and you Mr Fulford, all related to the issue of these Bonds confiscated on the Swiss / Italian border last year. Neither should you rule out the possibility of other conversations being monitored.

Now I will quote part of the transcript of your conversation, which you instigated Mr Fulford at precisely 10:57:44 on May 22nd 2010...

[sygh]

A suitcase nuclear device has been placed near Camp Bondsteel

We have received, from a very credible source, information that a suitcase nuclear device has been placed near the US Camp Bondsteel military base in Kosovo. The source, who goes by the code-name Alexander, says the base must be evacuated by 4 PM on April 4th.

We have also heard from different sources in China that China is ready to send a 200 million man army through Pakistan and into the Middle East unless the Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate members in control of the United States government withdraw their forces

Benny...Benny...Benny?

Your predictions are like going to the Casino and betting the House on 1 number on the Roulette Wheel and expecting to Win..?

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=818221557605&id=332a30b28a4bb9d1dfee0d14fda4aabf&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.studyofsports.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2009%2f06%2froulette_lg.jpg

If just one of your Predictions came true - we would all acknowledge your so called sources?

Just like a game of darts Benny, your bound to Hit something sooner or later?

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=855271539001&id=86329ce7a4246f15135d1c14ddcd7a1b&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.colgansports.com%2fimages%2feclipse_pro_dartboard.jpg

Having said all that, I think there is an element of Truth to his Predictions!

i.e. The Fed is Finished - The Bush/Clinton Cabal is on its last legs and Justice towards Humanity will be served!

I wish that were true but I don't think the Cabal is any where near on its last legs. I think we're being duped, and all the while the clock is still ticking. It's one big charade where honest people who have their heads on their shoulders, and would actually like to change things for the better, are being used. Not people who want crazy change but the kind of honest to God change where the good guys win, and life on this planet gets better.

[Black Panther]

We have a duality again. Who’s right, who’s wrong. When people ask me a question and I have to choose between two answers, most of the time I answer ‘both’. And that’s true with this thread too. It’s important to have a ‘clean’ forum, but everyone should be able to write down their thoughts. Someone else will add something or correct someone. That’s how the forum works. If you think it's BS or not important, just move on. Together we have a big, big brain. Don’t waste time with arguing.

[jackovesk]

A suitcase nuclear device has been placed near Camp Bondsteel

We have received, from a very credible source, information that a suitcase nuclear device has been placed near the US Camp Bondsteel military base in Kosovo. The source, who goes by the code-name Alexander, says the base must be evacuated by 4 PM on April 4th.

We have also heard from different sources in China that China is ready to send a 200 million man army through Pakistan and into the Middle East unless the Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate members in control of the United States government withdraw their forces

...Update...

This Week’s Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis will come out on Tuesday

"This Week’s Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis will come out on Tuesday, April 5th because we wish to see if our Serbian intelligence contact was right about the impending nuclear attack on Camp Bondsteel. If he is, then some sort of announcement by the perpetrators of this attack is expected to follow. If not, then we try to figure out what the purpose of will have turned out to be disinformation was."

I am not gainst Ben Fulford, but he may have read this Thread?

This is the 1st time I have seen him question his own information and sources!

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

[Carmody]

why do people keep posting stuff from Fulford?..isn't it obvious by now that he doesn't know what is going on and that his info is very much surface level insider gossip and superficial "solutions"...he doesn't realise that the dramas happening on earth are largely dependent on the off-world controllers and what is happening between their factions,they use their particular players in TPTB on earth like puppets...Fulford is still stuck at the level where he thinks the puppets are in control ...

In his earliest interviews he specifically and directly spoke about aliens, (reps, etc) and their involvement... and then he specifically decided to never speak on that subject again..as that would drive away his target audience, and this was directly admitted/stated. I'd say he's aware of that, in that case, if you wish to see things that way. (off-world controllers, etc)

He is also aware that the way to prevent a given thing from happening.... is to speak out about it before hand. Personally I'd rather (and I've been in that position) speak and be wrong than allow even speculative (or poorly supported) "foreknowledge" to come to naught.

I'm neither for nor against.....I'm just sayin'.

[Calz]

Lol

Took the weekend off for some downtime with the family and see I planted quite the bomb here (suitcase or not).

Trying to reflect on a positive manner to respond to some posts in this thread ... but in the meanwhile here is *ANOTHER* update.

I would start a new thread and post it in the "lighter side" forum ... but I will get to that in due time ...


Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis20110405:

Japan’s government, threatened with more HAARP attacks, pays 60 trillion yen to Feds

The cowardly Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan handed 60 trillion yen over to the Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate immediately after his country was attacked with HAARP and nuclear terror, according to Japanese security police sources. The extortion money was paid off following threats to use HAARP to cause Mt. Fuji to erupt. For those of you still too brainwashed to believe such a thing is possible, please take a look at the following transcript available on the US Defense Department’s home page:

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

[shiva777]

Horowitz calls fulford an agent provocateur...saying he threatened Chris Story's life before he died,,Horowitz has some other interesting things to say

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tAqOy8GjDI&feature=player_embedded

[Lord Sidious]

Horowitz calls fulford an agent provocateur...saying he threatened Chris Story's life before he died,,Horowitz has some other interesting things to say

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tAqOy8GjDI&feature=player_embedded

I like Horowitz, he tells what he thinks is the truth and he doesn't compromise.
An honest man.
And I like them.

[Calz]

Horowitz calls fulford an agent provocateur...saying he threatened Chris Story's life before he died,,Horowitz has some other interesting things to say

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tAqOy8GjDI&feature=player_embedded

Yep I remember Lenny on coast to coast radio talking about that several months ago.

[Calz]

Horowitz calls fulford an agent provocateur...saying he threatened Chris Story's life before he died,,Horowitz has some other interesting things to say

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tAqOy8GjDI&feature=player_embedded

I like Horowitz, he tells what he thinks is the truth and he doesn't compromise.
An honest man.
And I like them.

Len walks the walk ... that's for sure:

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The Spectrum and Media ByPass

By

Leonard G. Horowitz, D.M.D., M.A., M.P.H.*

On October 1, 2001-approximately two weeks before the first publicly announced anthrax mailing-Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) officials received an urgent warning from this author.(1) Government investigators were directed to consider the growing anthrax fright as the planned response to military-style propaganda. The American news media's coverage of anthrax, and subsequently the anthrax mailings, held many similarities to what military officials in previous years called psychological operations (PSYOPs) for command and control warfare (C2W). The primary objectives in this unique anthrax campaign appeared to be pharmaceuticals sales and forced "emergency" legislation effecting stringent population controls.

http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/anthrax/anthrax_espionage.html

[Calz]

Update on Kosovo situation

The US military's Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo was apparently not hit by a suitcase nuclear bomb on April 4th as threatened by Serbian operatives because the US promised on April 3rd to shut down the base.

http://usaserbs.net/news-usa/241-us-army-base-bondsteel-will-be-closed-soon.html

Don't shoot the messenger :laser: :peep: :whip:


http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/


I will have time for an overdue long response to many posts on this thread in the next day or two

[Chicodoodoo]

The US military's Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo was apparently not hit by a suitcase nuclear bomb on April 4th as threatened by Serbian operatives because the US promised on April 3rd to shut down the base.

Most interesting. The official reason given for the shut-down is "The camp is, in fact, a financial millstone." Every military base overseas is a financial millstone (burden), and yet none of the other bases are being shut down. Of course, they would never admit to succumbing to a nuclear threat. That could start a disturbing trend, where suitcase nuclear bombs start showing up at multiple military bases.

Expanding on the official reason for the shut-down, the criminal sociopaths might have to put Ron Paul in the Presidency to justify shutting down all the bases and bringing the troops home.

:pound:

[Calz]

To post, or not to post ... THAT is the question.

Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer

The slings and arrows of outrageous Trolls,

Or to take arms against them defending a Nugget's Right to Post!!!


William Shake yer nuggets Speare


You see before you the Courtroom of Nuggetville. Not as cool as Hiram's Smoking Lounge nor as fun as 9eagle9's Margarita Bar :washing: but justice isn't about having fun.


:welcome:

All are welcome here. Every size, shape, color, planet, density, dimension, belief system and reality paradigm. Yes ... even Trolls are welcome (note: please check yourself in with the nice Cow at the door. He will fit you with the appropriate electroshock collar).


The Court is in Session

Bailiff Present the Charges:

Your Honor. In the case of People vs Nuggets we present the following charges as taken from the thread (names withheld to protect the ... innocent?):

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17583-Out-there-even-for-Fulford



why do people keep posting stuff from Fulford?


Fulford "more right than wrong"...Nesara?...any evidence of either being a reality


What a complete load on nonsense..

Why on earth even post such rubbish? please tell? It may be more interesting than the garbage I just read above.


We as a community have a responsibility to the readership if we engage in disclosing previously unknown facts. We need to be very discriminating or our reputation will suffer accordingly. That fact seems obvious. It is proper that we examine fantastic or unrealistic claims in open forum. It is a credibility issue.


Also what is this thread doing in "News and Updates"?


Critical thinking is paramount in order to come to some form of commonsense and rational. The above quoted example is plain to see as complete rubbish and posting such rubbish does at least highlight this kind of ridiculous nonsense portrayed by some as a form of "source" that is worth reading.


My question is valid and worth a response from the poster, as to why post such nonsense


Why? what is the point, what is the motive? I wish to hear the rational, 200 million man army... please enlighten me as to the worth of posting such rubbish.


How does the defendant plead?

On my knees Your Honor :hail:


Defense may take the floor:


Each and every post/thread I have submitted (regarding Fulford) has some sort of "disclaimer" like "reader discretion" or "discernment needed" ... words to that effect. In this case it was implied in the title of the thread.

So why post something that discernment is needed? Fair question and I have included my opinion about that several times. Even disinformation has to have *enough* truth in it to capture the attention of the reader. In the case of Fulford, *IMHO* it isn't so much a matter of deliberate disinfo on his behalf. He does have some inside connections from that portion of the world. How many people have been granted personal interviews with Leo and Rockefeller?

IMHO Fulford's intentions are good but he is being played like a violin :violin:

He has become much more "animated" and "emotional" considering the circumstances in Japan. Is that so hard to understand?

What I *personally* find worthwhile in following his blog is that due to the scope and alarming nature of his claims ... even using a disinfo ratio of truth to sh*t then even if only a few things he claims are true it is worth noting IMHO.

A lot of people are interested to hear what he has to say ... yes even here at Avalon.. Why? Entertainment? Shock value? Perhaps it just feels so gosh darn good when he spouts off about the Bush/Rocky Cabal :eyebrows:


Fulford should be "fair game" here. He was vetted enough to get a video interview on Camelot. Correct?

Let's see ... I have been mauled by Trolls over Fulford, Wilcock, Deagle, Laura Knight J, Weidner and likely others that I have long forgotten. These are all people who have been interviewed by Camelot in one fashion or another.

Having said all that please understand that *I DO* understand and agree with the nature of many posts (where here I playfully lump together as "Troll"). We *ALL WANT TRUTH* and that is a major motive for most all of us being here. Correct???

Bottom line is this is Avalon. It is a forum where we can exchange information, viewpoints and opinions.

Does that mean Trolls should roam free attacking every nugget that posts something to annoy them?

As with any forum this debate is often approached and in the thread I linked that prompted all this there were *many* posts defending the right to post whatever they wanted to. I appreciated your posts.



He is also aware that the way to prevent a given thing from happening.... is to speak out about it before hand. Personally I'd rather (and I've been in that position) speak and be wrong than allow even speculative (or poorly supported) "foreknowledge" to come to naught.

I'm neither for nor against.....I'm just sayin'.


This was one such post that deserves mention. The most clear example of this type of situation would be the recent "flu pandemic". Most all of us were sure as we could be this was a deliberate and staged event. Most all of us were waving red flags and spreading the word. Yet it fizzled out. Why? Were we all wrong? Did the "galactic federation" or "management" prevent it? Did we jump timelines? :bolt:

I suggest at least part of what happened was *BECAUSE* so many people were becoming aware of that possibility. Even having the WHO declare a "level 6 pandemic" before hardly anyone died made it almost laughable (in hindsight of course).

Point being if an intuitive has a vision (aka Deagle's dream about nukes going off in LA) dont' you feel they should be offered a bit of understanding when they try to get the word out?

One last thing.


Also what is this thread doing in "News and Updates"?

I suppose it would have been more "appropriate" to put in another forum. I didn't give it much thought. But where does it end???

Do we need a seperate sub-forum for Fulford with some sort of disclaimer at the top like the Channeling forum so that such "offensive" posts can more easily be dismissed???

Hmmmm.


Anyway ... I am rambling ... I was not available to respond immediately after starting the thread in question so trying to lump together as much as possible here rather than 20 seperate posts.



Why on earth even post such rubbish? please tell? It may be more interesting than the garbage I just read above.


Did you get your money's worth??? :croc:


Accountable Nugget ... 1 ... 2 ... 3 ... 4 ... See nuthin to it


Defense Rests it's Case


May the debate begin again ... or left to die ...

Up to you the noble jury members of Avalon

[Calz]

Okay ... at long last I have constructed an appropriate response to some of the posts in this thread.

Go here:


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17984-WHAT-How-*DARE*-a-Nugget-start-a-Fulford-Thread&p=193278#post193278

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Lovely proceedings here! I'll join you in defending the right to post ~ in the interest of good health and ascension, however, I'd like to suggest that we, each, for our own benefit ~ ask: Does it harm anyone and is that my intent? * * * * * If your intent is to uplift and share those things that are of great importance to you for others to share, post away. We are to be sifting through our own thoughts at this time of ascension and Earth changes to drop old ideas and thoughts that involve "labels," and express limitations or may cause others "dis-ease" through some negative perspective. Many posts are simply negative and subjective meant to encourage conflict or inflame others and these are not worthy of our time and efforts to support. * * * * * * * Free ideas are one thing ~ current events, always useful, your personal value system if it encroaches on good taste or lacks kindness, may not always make it to that post button if you have wisdom and that, too, is subjective. We all go about wishing to do good and it's a wonderful attribute most of us share individually and collectively. However, there are those other dark thoughts that are not worthy of us. Some people go onto the Spiritual forums to rant and add their own flavor of hate and disbelief and this is unkind and not useful. ------------------------------ Please remember that what our thoughts reflect more than anything is who we are are ~ they are better than a passport ~ and these thoughts are returned to us and amplified at this time X 1,000. This boomerang effect comes back and hits you upside the head or right in the solar plex when they are NEGATIVE. Is it okay for you to do this in public ~ yes. Is it a good idea or a toxic idea? This is a different matter the heart alone can answer best. * * * * * Somestimes I wince at the cruelty and senselessness of unkindness. Those who share these things usually have matching bodies filled with disease and cannot figure out why they are ill. Free Will can often use some restraint for healing. People love to talk about Peace while not realizing they are constantly at war within their own mind. * * * * * * * * * Take those actions that promote happiness and don't drag down your own spirit or ours, because it's unkind ~ mostly to you. Negative thoughts have the power to harm ~ not just you who are thinking or uttering them but those who are forced to wade through them on the way to something of light and love. This is not a worthy detour for our spirits. They hurt no one as much as ourselves and once thrown into the arena of free thoughts and the sharing of ideas ~ can clog not only the forums but your own heart arteries. Those labels and limitations we place are always reflected back at us, not just so to speak but literally, so it is ground that needs to be fertilized with tender, loving, care for things worthwhile to grow from our ideas. Any other toxic wastes should be thrown out and rejected by our own systems and hearts. Freely spread your love and light ~ and work quietly within your own heart to remove all the self imposed barriers and limitations, and labels, you've accumulated over the last 13 millions years and give it a rest ~ please sweetheart or the Stargates will close before you. Whether you realize it or not, they lead to your own Super Heart Center. As Above, So Below! It is best when we can love, bless, cherish, adore, assist, nurture, and can see the beauty in all things. These bring health, happiness and bliss. Seek after these things! Much love and healing for ascension to all! As Man is ~ God once was ~ As God is, man may become. REMEMBER you are Masters, and party on in light, laughter and magic! xoxoxox

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Sorry something has taken out all my paragraph and line breaks ~ oh dear! Very difficult to read but I've edited it four times to no avail! Talk about the need to sift ~ sheepish smile! When something like this happens it's a sign, most likely, that this is not something worth sharing or it would have posted correctly. I'd delete it but then you might wonder. I'm reviewing those things I said above ~ there is something faulty, no doubt, in my thinking that begs correction. We get these "clues" not always fun! I might add that we must always be willing to change our own thoughts and opinions, it happens often that it is needed. It's no big deal when this happens. xoxox

[Heartsong]

In order to discern truth one must discern falsity. Avalon is a good place to sort it out.

[gigha]

Once again Darla Ken Jensen Pearce your words inspire. Thank you. Peace and Love.

[Ahkenaten]

The Shepherd carries His hooked staff and must keep the sheep (nuggets) in line at all times "for their own good" -- after all, it is His "job." :eyebrows:

[Ba-ba-Ra]

I find it fascinating the things we find to argue, disagree, fight over. If you don't like Fulford - Don't read those posts. There are plenty of posts to choose from - on any number of topics.

Personally, I like to see what's out there. I've used this metaphor before. A forum is like going into an ice-cream shop - lots of choices. Wouldn't it be boring if an ice cream shop only carried strawberry. I have my favorite flavors for sure, but I also like to taste others - just to see what they're like. If you don't, that's fine, don't taste and then you won't have to keep telling us you didn't like it. Just stick with the flavors you like and allow us to do the same. No one is forcing you to taste anything.

But I am glad that this thread was brought forward, perhaps so we could recognize our actions.

[majapahit]

Sorry something has taken out all my paragraph and line breaks ~ oh dear! Very difficult to read but I've edited it four times to no avail!
this happens to me with Google Chrome om some sites, and not, when I use good ol' IExplorer ..
.. so change/add/install a different browser, and try again?

[Ahkenaten]

I think it is high time the whole subject of civil discourse and disagreement is openly faced on this Forum. We are all, presumably, unless some infants or kids snuck in here - adults. We should be able to disagree. Although I agree somewhat with the shopping mall concept - i.e. that this is a "marketplace of ideas" and we can, as adults, take what we want and leave the rest.........................there are other elements operative in this medium that we cannot afford to ignore.

As players in the "marketplace of ideas" we must recognize that this medium has been recognized as a driver of public opinion. As such, players, i.e. posters, bear enormous responsibility for shaping public discourse. There are those inevitably whose motives are not merely the free, open exchange of information, rather they wish to actually drive ideations and yes, politics and action - nay, HISTORY - in a certain direction. When sensitive and discerning minds notice that is occurring, and disagree with the direction and shape those self-designated SHAPERS of human ideas and HISTORY are taking things, it is not only our right but our duty to intervene and PUSH BACK. The question is, how - in this medium - does one PUSH BACK? I have found that direct confrontation is not only unpleasant and leaves a bad state in everyone's mouth - but is counterproductive, although an occasional slap or rebuke might sometimes be productive - directed towards me as well!! But humor is an acceptable gentle way to push back, is it not?

How do we disagree? One can refute ostensible facts with other "facts" - but I am not talking about dialectical argument here on the grounds of factual or personal opinion.

How do we just insert the meme that - "HELLO PEOPLE DO NOT SWALLOW THIS PARTICULAR ICE CREAM CONE HOOK LINE AND SINKER??""

It seems that censorship has reared its ugly head around the issue of disagreement here.....................and disagree we must unless we are content to be mere sheep driven here and there by the wolves and self-appointed Shepherds amongst us.

[Hiram]

Our job is to use discernment (for ourselves...not for others).

This is a place of sharing and discussion.

No need to convince anyone of anything.

You are all amazing and lovely people. That's precisely why you are here.

Share your information, and don't become attached to what people think of it. People need to be vary careful their skepticism doesn't cross the line into intentional disrespect.

If one doesn't agree with something.....and this is going to sound revolutionary, so wait for it................don't read it!.


With Love.

I am going to re-bump my thread on this topic.

[PurpleLama]

my vote is in favor of the defendant.

[Maria Stade]

The Fulford nugget is doing what he needs to do !

He is saying as he se it and not all nuggets can do that !

There is no right or wrong - the effect on a nuggets inpact on the world should not be under estemated.

I some nugget feel they need to show other nuggets or discuss the whole thing they have to do so !

Butterflyes are not to be steped on !

We are changing everything all the time and all is as it should be.

Love and hugs to all beautyful nuggets !

[Ahkenaten]

Our job is to use discernment (for ourselves...not for others).

This is a place of sharing and discussion.

No need to convince anyone of anything.

You are all amazing and lovely people. That's precisely why you are here.

Share your information, and don't become attached to what people think of it. People need to be vary careful their skepticism doesn't cross the line into intentional disrespect.

If one doesn't agree with something.....and this is going to sound revolutionary, so wait for it................don't read it!.


With Love.

I am going to re-bump my thread on this topic.

There is a paradox in your reasoning - how does one know one doesn't agree with something until one reads it? Using your logic we should not read anything at all. :confused:

DUH! I guess I have been bewitched by black and white

[Hiram]

heh heh heh. Perhaps I should have said: Don't continue to read it!

My sincere apologies, I thought it was implied, but one should never underestimate someone else possibly taking them literally!

We are always learning. (Hiram puffs his pipe thoughtfully)

[Ahkenaten]

I have missed your pipe-smoking and paneled rooms of civility. Thanks Hiram!

[Chicodoodoo]

If one doesn't agree with something.....and this is going to sound revolutionary, so wait for it................don't read it!.

Might I suggest reading it, and then stating respectfully why you don't agree with it? How else are we all going to learn? Isn't that the reason for having a forum -- to freely hear and discuss all sides of an issue?

[Calz]

If one doesn't agree with something.....and this is going to sound revolutionary, so wait for it................don't read it!.

Might I suggest reading it, and then stating respectfully why you don't agree with it? How else are we all going to learn? Isn't that the reason for having a forum -- to freely hear and discuss all sides of an issue?

Agreed.

Key word ... respectfully :)

[nearing]

I love you guys/gals.

[jackovesk]

Here's another one...

Ben Fulford - 04/10/2011

Deepwater ocean drilling ship "Chikyugo" suspected of earthquake weapon involvement now in Tokyo bay

"Japanese White Dragon Society sources are reporting that the Japanese deep-water ocean floor drilling vessel the Chikyugo, has been taken over by the evil cabal. It was spotted drilling at what became the epicenter of the March 11, 2011 earthquake in the days before the earthquake hit. It is now in Tokyo bay in what is being interpreted as a crude threat to target greater Tokyo. The White Dragon Society demands that the vessel be boarded and inspected immediately or else it will be sunk. An article written on January 17th, 2011 says it was "conducting an earthquake survey" off the coast of Fukushima. Here is a link to the Japanese article and photographs of the vessel:
http://cafe.naver.jp/Oh+My+%E3%81%99%E3%81%94%E3%81%A3/2129526128137674006."

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

http://imgcc.naver.jp/kaze/pick/USER/7/s/72r4mw7lxdjrcpov9ygs/346/b8c862cd392d23f5034b4698c7d3edee.jpg

これは世界最高深海掘削船ちきゅう号です地震のメカニズムを解明する為に熊野灘沖に半年間停泊し7500M迄掘削し近年に起こると言われる国内最大級の地震の調査の為海底の南海トラフを調査してます阪神大震災から 16年もう一度避難対策を考えたいものですね。

Japanese to English translation

It is anchored six months off Kumano in order to elucidate the mechanism of earthquakes is issue Chikyu drill ship Deep Sea world 7500M study in the Nankai Trough sea floor to investigate the earthquake of the largest is said to occur in recently excavated until I think the measure is again evacuated for 16 years I the Great Hanshin Earthquake.

[andrewgreen]

None of what Fulford has said comes true, I really don't know what he's up to!?

[Etherios]

None of what Fulford has said comes true, I really don't know what he's up to!?

Didnt charles say that exposing what they want to do makes them changes their plans? Maybe he is hitting their planning and making them adopt new lines to avoid verification...

[shiva777]

None of what Fulford has said comes true, I really don't know what he's up to!?

Didnt charles say that exposing what they want to do makes them changes their plans? Maybe he is hitting their planning and making them adopt new lines to avoid verification...

Etherios ...that argument can be made by anyone ,even those who tell the most outrageous lies and are totally deceived....the "exposing what they want to do makes them changes their plans? " theory has been used by so many crackpots who can't admit that they were wrong or misled...fulford being one of them...Wilcock has a habit of saying that as well...their ego's are so big that they think that very complex.expensive and long-term plans are trashed because they post something on the internet that only a few thousand people read...if the controllers really operated that way they would never carry out any of their plans

Many believe that disclosure was not announced on a day a few years ago because Wilcock said it would be on his website...see how nutty people are...

[firstlook]

None of what Fulford has said comes true, I really don't know what he's up to!?

Didnt charles say that exposing what they want to do makes them changes their plans? Maybe he is hitting their planning and making them adopt new lines to avoid verification...

Etherios ...that argument can be made by anyone ,even those who tell the most outrageous lies and are totally deceived....the "exposing what they want to do makes them changes their plans? " theory has been used by so many crackpots who can't admit that they were wrong or misled...fulford being one of them...Wilcock has a habit of saying that as well...their ego's are so big that they think that very complex.expensive and long-term plans are trashed because they post something on the internet that only a few thousand people read...if they really operated that way they would never carry out any of their plans

Hello Shiva777,

I think there is some truth to your statement, but also some bias assumption.

The way I see it, is that Individuals like Ben are working from Bias as well, not ego. They are hardly crackpots. What you have is programming. Not mind control, but basic human intuition.

Different programming cause one to use different intuition. Add that to what type of people Ben is conversing with, and you simply are looking at the same picture from a different view and desire for resolution.

The point you made about the elite not carrying out their plans if too many people know is both true and false. It all depends on the faction and their desires/beliefs. Some are more esoteric, while others fear the more physical repercussions of investigation and retaliation.

Its best to keep things balanced.

Peace :)

[Calz]

Don't follow Kerry's forum ... but out of curiosity do the people here who slash/trash/burn/insult Fulford posts/posters do the same to Kerry??? From her blog:

http://projectcamelotproductions.com/blog-hp.html


Energy Wars: the Real Game-Changer

Evidence appears to be mounting that the earthquake in Japan was if not triggered then escalated in size during a particular window of opportunity caused by a hyperdimensional configuration (see my radio show with Keith Hunter for more on this factor)...

Regarding the Honshu area of Japan, if you look back at earthquakes over the past year you will see how very active that particular area had been prior to the 9.0 earthquake. What this indicates to me is that this was a weakness that could have been targeted and exploited within a certain 'window of opportunity' presented by energetics that involve the sun.

If this were a murder (and evidence mounts that it was in essence a mass-murder) then you could say opportunity was present and the only question left is motive. The summation below of Fulford's material leads one to suspect at least one motive but this is still not fully clear. I have been querying my sources on this aspect of things.

Overview of Benjamin Fulford's Evidence of Haarp or EMP induced Earthquake in Japan

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_fulford90.htm

[Eric J (Viking)]

A very short clip from a very emotional Ben Fulford ... if its true its great news!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D21fsi1V7FE&feature=related

viking

[Carmody]

An old lion...just before it goes down...is at it's most dangerous.

[Calz]

A very short clip from a very emotional Ben Fulford ... if its true its great news!!




Happy to see others willing to stand up for the right to hear Fulford's voice regardless of how "nonsensical" it is to others.

Free speech??? It seems that has to be fought for even on a forum level.

Caveat to this vid is that South Korea is getting the brunt of the air current carried radiation and not Tokyo.

Anyhow ... Kerry's Blog just put up something from Fulford as well.

I will link to a post from another thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17583-Out-there-even-for-Fulford&p=195952#post195952

[jorr lundstrom]

An old lion...just before it goes down...is at it's most dangerous.

Yeah, they aint not gonna leave the scene smiling in delight.:target:

[Eric J (Viking)]

Thanks Carlz,

Yes I agree I think some people seem to forget...

We all have freewill, and the 'law of non interference' (YOU MUST NOT IMPOSE NOR FORCE YOUR FREE-WILL UPON THE FREE-WILL OF ANOTHER) comes into play as well...we don't need a so called 'know it all' to diss here there and everywhere...

we can teach or pass on truths, but its up to the listener to accept...

We can all choose whatever path we want...and please take note some of the channellings adopt this rule as well...

viking

[Arrowwind]

Time will tell if Fulford is right...
Just setting a geiger counter out on a table is not sufficient
for accurate readings
it will fluctuate from day to day
hour to hour. Can his geiger counter even read cesium?
plutonium? most can not.

What is the risk if he is wrong?

Tell me? How many specks of radio active cesium is safe?

Japan just released that this leak is now rated at a 7, equal to Chernobyl.
Obviously we are not near done with this.

of course fear is dangerous if not acted upon rationally.
the only rational thing to do is simply leave Japan.
If you cant leave Japan become psychollogically prepared
for what comes and be ready to serve humanity like you have
never anticipated.

Gary Null interviews Christopher Busby and it is worth a listen as he is an international
expert on this issue. Why do we listen to the dingbats on MSM and politicians on such important
issues? instead of real nuclear experts who have no financial connections to the nuclear industry?
scrole to 3/24/11 and listen
http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com/the-gary-null-show-wnye/
Here is an excellent interview by Gary Null with Christopher Busby, an ultimate radiation expert
that states this accident will exceed Chernobyl back on 3/24.
http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com/the-gary-null-show-wnye/
The first 10 minutes or so of this tape is MSM baffoons, so watch out for that..
just so you can clearly see the difference
this tape also reveals the lies surrounding Three Mile Island and how the courts covered everything up. It also discusses the profound effects chernobly had on Sweden.... how far is Sweden from Chernobly?.. how many kilometers? a couple thousand?
and the thousands that died from that "low level" incident

This is probably one of the most important interviews Gary Null will ever do.

Busby's credentials follow:

Today's guest is Dr. Christopher Busby and he is is one of England’s leading experts in low-dose ionizing radiation’s effects on human health and the environment. He is the director of the environmental consultancy group Green Audit, and the Scientific Secretary to the European Committee on Radiation Risks based in Brussels. He is also a visiting professor in Biomedical Sciences at the University of Ulster in Northern Ireland. He has been a member of several large government committees in the UK government, including its oversight group on depleted uranium used in radioactive weapons in the Middle East, and the committee to examine nuclear emissions and their risks.

[skyflower]

A very short clip from a very emotional Ben Fulford ... if its true its great news!!




Happy to see others willing to stand up for the right to hear Fulford's voice regardless of how "nonsensical" it is to others.

Free speech??? It seems that has to be fought for even on a forum level.

Caveat to this vid is that South Korea is getting the brunt of the air current carried radiation and not Tokyo.

Anyhow ... Kerry's Blog just put up something from Fulford as well.

I will link to a post from another thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17583-Out-there-even-for-Fulford&p=195952#post195952


I am in South Korea, and the gov't and media here has been taking extra steps to tell people that we are not getting much radiation from Japan.

I know that the media and the gov't never lets you in on the real information, but I figure this is something we will ALL be dealing with in the future. Unless there is a divine intervention, the radiation being spewed out from Fukushima is affecting everyone everywhere.

We've had our first radioactive rain last week. Maybe the radiation got me very tired even though I am in top shape.

I've decided to let radiation be my friend. Not going to fear it. If my body can't take it, then I get an early exit from this play. So be it.

I really do like flying better than walking.

Oh I really really wish Fulford is right....... even though I am skeptical, I can still wish..... :)

[Calz]

I am in South Korea, and the gov't and media here has been taking extra steps to tell people that we are not getting much radiation from Japan.

I know that the media and the gov't never lets you in on the real information, but I figure this is something we will ALL be dealing with in the future. Unless there is a divine intervention, the radiation being spewed out from Fukushima is affecting everyone everywhere.

We've had our first radioactive rain last week. Maybe the radiation got me very tired even though I am in top shape.

I've decided to let radiation be my friend. Not going to fear it. If my body can't take it, then I get an early exit from this play. So be it.

I really do like flying better than walking.

Oh I really really wish Fulford is right....... even though I am skeptical, I can still wish..... :)

Thanks for you response :)

Great approach not to give into fear ... those that understand "we" are not our bodies which we shed every darn time we come back here (for whatever reason) know that there is nothing to fear from death.

Very liberating for those that can rid themselves of that base fear.

And it is understandable and healthy to approach Fulford's messages with scepticism (yet perhaps a ray of hope).

Here are a couple posts I made in other threads. We don't always get the truth in the "news" as you mention so perhaps you can confirm for us whether or not the schools in South Korea were indeed shut down during the rainstorm as implied in the msnbc article.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18084-And-We-All-Melt-Down...-by-Betsy-Ross&p=194522#post194522

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17800-A-Coverup-California-Northwest-USA-BC-Canada-under-radiation-threat-as-high-as-Japan&p=193440#post193440

[Billy]

Well i agree with Benjamin that "The Powers that pretend " feed and survive on fear, But NO amount of radiation is safe. and I agree that humanity has to overcome the fear syndrom to move forward and starve the beasts out of the fourth dimension, and i agree that the beast is cornered and dangerous and thrashing his tale causing devastation at this time. I pray what his heart expresses at the end will come to be.

[onawah]

Time will tell if Fulford is right...
Just setting a geiger counter out on a table is not sufficient
for accurate readings
it will fluctuate from day to day
hour to hour. Can his geiger counter even read cesium?
plutonium? most can not.

What is the risk if he is wrong?

Tell me? How many specks of radio active cesium is safe?

Japan just released that this leak is now rated at a 7, equal to Chernobyl.
Obviously we are not near done with this.

of course fear is dangerous if not acted upon rationally.
the only rational thing to do is simply leave Japan.
If you cant leave Japan become psychollogically prepared
for what comes and be ready to serve humanity like you have
never anticipated.

Gary Null interviews Christopher Busby and it is worth a listen as he is an international
expert on this issue. Why do we listen to the dingbats on MSM and politicians on such important
issues? instead of real nuclear experts who have no financial connections to the nuclear industry?
scrole to 3/24/11 and listen
http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com/the-gary-null-show-wnye/
Here is an excellent interview by Gary Null with Christopher Busby, an ultimate radiation expert
that states this accident will exceed Chernobyl back on 3/24.
http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com/the-gary-null-show-wnye/
The first 10 minutes or so of this tape is MSM baffoons, so watch out for that..
just so you can clearly see the difference
this tape also reveals the lies surrounding Three Mile Island and how the courts covered everything up. It also discusses the profound effects chernobly had on Sweden.... how far is Sweden from Chernobly?.. how many kilometers? a couple thousand?
and the thousands that died from that "low level" incident

This is probably one of the most important interviews Gary Null will ever do.

Busby's credentials follow:

Today's guest is Dr. Christopher Busby and he is is one of England’s leading experts in low-dose ionizing radiation’s effects on human health and the environment. He is the director of the environmental consultancy group Green Audit, and the Scientific Secretary to the European Committee on Radiation Risks based in Brussels. He is also a visiting professor in Biomedical Sciences at the University of Ulster in Northern Ireland. He has been a member of several large government committees in the UK government, including its oversight group on depleted uranium used in radioactive weapons in the Middle East, and the committee to examine nuclear emissions and their risks.

Thanks for the link. That interview was really comprehensive and factual.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Well we can't go on like this indefinately...something has got to give... surely we must be near to bursting point...

The latest from his site ...

"This weekend a French agent was sent by George Soros, French President Nicholas Sarkozy and other senior Zionists to negotiate with the White Dragon Society. The talks, which lasted for two days, were inconclusive. However, the agent made it clear the European branch of the Zionists truly feared a collapse of the Euro, while their American counterparts are finally beginning to realize they might actually end up in jail. At the same time, their attitude was so haughty it made arrogance seem like a form of humility. They also made many threats but the fact is that they are running scared and they are running out of time."

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/2011/04/weekly-geopolitical-news-and-analysis20110411-sarkozy-and-soros-send-negotiator-to-visit-white-dragon-society-but-talks-inco.html

viking

[skyflower]

I am in South Korea, and the gov't and media here has been taking extra steps to tell people that we are not getting much radiation from Japan.

I know that the media and the gov't never lets you in on the real information, but I figure this is something we will ALL be dealing with in the future. Unless there is a divine intervention, the radiation being spewed out from Fukushima is affecting everyone everywhere.

We've had our first radioactive rain last week. Maybe the radiation got me very tired even though I am in top shape.

I've decided to let radiation be my friend. Not going to fear it. If my body can't take it, then I get an early exit from this play. So be it.

I really do like flying better than walking.

Oh I really really wish Fulford is right....... even though I am skeptical, I can still wish..... :)

Thanks for you response :)

Great approach not to give into fear ... those that understand "we" are not our bodies which we shed every darn time we come back here (for whatever reason) know that there is nothing to fear from death.

Very liberating for those that can rid themselves of that base fear.

And it is understandable and healthy to approach Fulford's messages with scepticism (yet perhaps a ray of hope).

Here are a couple posts I made in other threads. We don't always get the truth in the "news" as you mention so perhaps you can confirm for us whether or not the schools in South Korea were indeed shut down during the rainstorm as implied in the msnbc article.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18084-And-We-All-Melt-Down...-by-Betsy-Ross&p=194522#post194522

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17800-A-Coverup-California-Northwest-USA-BC-Canada-under-radiation-threat-as-high-as-Japan&p=193440#post193440


Yes Calz, some schools were indeed shut down at least in my area. Many parents kept their kids at home, and I noticed people did not go outside unless they had to.
I had to go out that night, and saw empty seats inside the subway trains during peak hours. Seoul is actually THE city that never sleeps, and that night I believe half the population went home early. LOL

[atut]

I want to believe Benjamin Fulford, but I can't. Everytime I watch his video, I feel like he has something hidden inside him, feel like he is not really telling the truth.
Do you see his hands? What was he doing with his hands? Was he telling something? It was like he not telling the truth, like he was nervous.

I don't know. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[sheddie]

I want to believe Benjamin Fulford, but I can't. Everytime I watch his video, I feel like he has something hidden inside him, feel like he is not really telling the truth.
Do you see his hands? What was he doing with his hands? Was he telling something? It was like he not telling the truth, like he was nervous.

I don't know. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Hi Atut, it could also be interpreted as excitement, he's waited a long time for this to happen.....................I would love it to be true................we'll see.:pray:

I really think he believes what he is reporting.....only time will tell if he is right. I am choosing to maintain some hope as the alternative is pretty awful.............and in the meantime I am taking the lugol's iodine.:p

much lovex

[Calz]

I want to believe Benjamin Fulford, but I can't. Everytime I watch his video, I feel like he has something hidden inside him, feel like he is not really telling the truth.
Do you see his hands? What was he doing with his hands? Was he telling something? It was like he not telling the truth, like he was nervous.

I don't know. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

At this point who really knows?

Like most things not a black or white situation rather a shade of grey (and avalon members are all over the map on the shade of grey) :)

If (*if*) he is being truthful (or at least believes he is) then he would have good reason to be nervous eh?

I don't think it will be too much longer before the events play out and we will have a much clearer picture.

[AtlasFactor]

Believe it when I see it. Would like to know why, in Fulford's camelot interview, he was so full of praise for the Rothschilds.

[loveandgratitude]

I want to believe Benjamin Fulford, but I can't. Everytime I watch his video, I feel like he has something hidden inside him, feel like he is not really telling the truth.
Do you see his hands? What was he doing with his hands? Was he telling something? It was like he not telling the truth, like he was nervous.

I don't know. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


This guy is filled with immense anxiety and excitement all mixed together. Remember a time when you felt like that, but for us the game it was not one of life and death as is being played out here. Lets just send Benjamin our love, protection, good wishes for a TRUE WARRIOR, who is walking his truth not just sitting back. He needs all the support of positive thoughts and love that we can all muster. Thank you Benjamin, for standing up and speaking what we already know to be true.

[Davidallany]

May the force be with you Benjamin. I send you thoughts of peace, love and support. Let it be done.

[Humble Janitor]

I saw a video where Fulford discusses the elite actions towards Japan, especially concerning the Rockefellers.

[loveandgratitude]

The Warnings of Benjamin Fulford
Reversal Overview
Reverse Speech ananlysis

An analysis of Fulford's reversals shows that he believes the story that he is telling. In other words, he is not pulling a scam, he is not deliberately lying, and his reversals are congruent with his tale. Sometimes they will give extra information, other times repeat his warnings or even reveal his own personal feelings. There appears to be no deliberate hint of deception on his part. Of interest is his frequent use of the word "they" in reverse, as he references the various factions in his tale. Also of interest is his specific use of the word "warning" on three occasions. This is, of course, the theme of his interview as he places the Illuminati on notice.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egF1NoG3iH0&feature=player_embedded

Full Transcripts here at this link:
http://www.reversespeech.com/fulford.htm

[shiva777]

I have no doubt fulford believes what he is saying..I also have very little doubt that much of what he says is based on a very limited world view and simplistic answers to a very complex situation.I used to listen to fulford years ago and he came out with very similar statements with HUGE implications that he was very excited and "sure" about...he has been proven wrong time after time after time.The"truth isdiferent at different levels "isvery true...the levels that Fulford taps in to are LOW LEVELS.Those low levels are basically puppets to beings that have a much more sophisticated agenda than fulford continues to preach and is aware of.

Careful with his stuff,it operates on the same level as the new-age movement and their puppets preaching simplistic ,inaccurate solutions to hugely complicated issues designed to keep people expectant of others solving theoir problems for them in the near future...complacency and saviour programming.

Go and find an archive of Fulford grandiose statements from years back...randomly choose any of them,read them and see the evidence for yourselves of Fulford's grandiose proclamations and announcements,inaccuracy and inability to face up to the fact that the sources he trusts are so often disinfo agents.

TIME WILL TELL that fulford is ONCE AGAIN being deceived ...Fulford fans can argue against this until they are blue in the face..TIME WILL TELL.

[truthseekerdan]

I have no doubt fulford believes what he is saying.

I have a feeling that may apply to you too, shiva. ;)

[shiva777]

yeah,don't you believe what you are saying..if you don't,don't say it.

[Teakai]

How is that possible re the radiation?

It's being recorded all over the place - even prior to the 10th April when he did this talk - how can it not be recording on his gigacounter?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvMOvMK_jQA

[shiva777]

just another Fulford delusion Teakai..it is often those who are most fearful who accuse others of being "destructive" or spreaders of fear ,when they burst or destroy their little fragile delusional "bliss" bubbles or delusional belief systems

ALERT: Japan Nuclear Radiation In Hawaii Milk At LEAST 600% Above Federal Drinking Water
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZQzTdPbLtw&feature=share

[Wiremu2011]

I'll get emotional too, but only when I find "those hundereds of Asian ninja's" actually went out and defeated the Elite. :cool:

[Teakai]

Here is another guy - who has been giving updates from Japan who says on the 11th April that the government in Japan has lifted the radiation threat to be now at level 7 - which is definitely in contradiction to what Benjamin Fulford is saying.

WARNING: This guy is pretty forward so it might not be something that everyone wants to watch.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYk5NKZcGiY

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I'll get emotional too, but only when I find "those hundereds of Asian ninja's" actually went out and defeated the Elite. :cool:

I wonder if the Ninja's would want to run things, then.

[loveandgratitude]

Fukushima Meets Pollyanna
Why I Believe In Santa Claus ... And You Should, Too


[Editor's Note: I heard a voicemail this morning from a man named Eugene who alerted me to this extremely relevant, important and cogent essay from Dick Eastman. Dick has hit one out of the ballpark here with his extraordinary grasp of the realities of our current situation and his recognition that Fukushima was a planned event, an act of sabotage to present a cover story to the world that is intended to mask the surreptitious contamination of the atmosphere with radioactive iodine, via chemtrails,

I don't know Dick Eastman other than from his wiritngs. I never spoke to him and I've never e-mailed him, but his statements about the sabotage of Daiichi reactors in Fukushima prefecture and the chemtrail spraying of radioactive iodine parallels EXACTLY what I, ZS Livingstone, and Don Nicoloff have been claiming in the last three radio interviews we did on March 16, 24, and 31, which were exclusively devoted to the topic of the engineered Japan quake, tsunami and sabotaged reactors. This article needs to be translated into Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc. and distributed on Asian web sites and blogs. I hope someone can offer to help transcribe.

Dick's article is the only article I noticed posted to rense.com that identifies the Fukushima event as a product of sabotage and the distribution of radioactive iodine via chemtrails as part of that sabotage strategy. Otherwise, the incredible number of doom and gloom diatribes about Japan posted to rense.com are playing into the Illuminati's radiation disinformation cover story perfectly and it's disheartening to witness.

What is heartening, however, is the wonderfully enlightened 'solution' which Dick mentions in the second half of the article and was anxious to get down on paper before forgetting. This man is obviously an inspired and Spirit-driven soul. We should pay attention to such people....Ken Adachi ]

By Dick Eastman
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/eastmanfukushimameetspolyana10apr11.shtml
\April 10, 2011

Fukushima Meets Pollyanna (Why I Believe In Santa Claus ... And You Should, Too) by Dick Eastman (April 13 2011)

http://rense.com/general93/santa.htm

Just woke up with this - got to get it down before it fades away.

We live in a terribly grim place. I write to you, most recently bouncing back and forth among 1) radiation from Japan and its provenance in seismic warfare; 2) social credit rather than gold, being the answer to ending business cycle depressions that stunt the development of humanity and raise up a moneyed power or international organized crime based on usury; 3) the (mostly Zionism Jews) banking oligarchy and corporate world power -- Rothschild, not the United States, is the great super power dominating the world today; 4) clandestine weather modification 5) the history of the secret war of the Rothschild Money Power against all peoples, but especially against Christianity, European particularist society, Islam and Islamic Society -- no time to explain here; etc.

But every now and then step back and look at the biggest and most immediate threat of all -- the subject my very first post to the Usenet newsgroups in 1997 was all about -- the long-term plans of Zhou Enlai and and Trotsky and other Rothschild agents like Bernard Baruch, Warburg, David Rockefeller, Kissinger, Murdoch, Soros, Perle, Wolfowitz with perhaps lower henchmen like Bush, Obama -- let those names merely represent in dot outline the syndicate I am speaking about -- but now to the point:

China (the Triad Princelings who run the "communist machinery" that enslaves the country China and has always been determined to eventually wage a victorious race war and a war of civilizations -- call it oriental despotism against Jeffersonian "particularist" society (functional individualist self-reliant small-family freedom-oriented western civilization) -- that gives a rough idea.

So Zionist Jews for Israel and Rothschild and following the strategy of Trotsky and the communist gang running China like as a corporation run on coerced slave power -- with Vietnam and North Korea as secret allies also in this undeclared stealth war -- are behind the Big Picture attack on Christian and Moslem peoples. (Islam is also a threat to their power.)

Now for a bit of unpleasantness -- China's dictatorship and the Rothschildist Jewry are waging nuclear war against us.

Here is a letter by one of the oldest and truest of the genuine 9-11 investigators, Galen (from a University in Michigan):

"Gary, i don't at all agree with your assessment that the NWO Ship of State is without rudder... it's in the very capable hands of the House of Rothschild, thank you. The Global Pathocrats -- satan-worshiping, necrophiliacs that they are -- are using weaponized weather and even weaponized plate tectonics to cause even further pain and suffering for humanity in the form of long-term radiation poisoning.

"I guess destroying the genome of many important plants and animals through genetic engineering and compromising our health and immune systems through ChemTrails and forced fluoridation and vaccination is not enough for them, we now all need more radiation in our daily lives.

"All one has to do is look at the new naked, X-ray, airport scanners and the rampant use of DU weaponry in Iraq, Afghanistan, and, now, Libya to see the fascination and fixation these monsters have with radiation. These Japanese nuclear plants were sabotaged by the same people who did 9-11, 7-7, Madrid, Bali, the "crotch bomber", the Gulf oil gusher, numerous assassinations, coups, wars, economic collapses, and various other nefarious activities designed to cause death, destruction, and desolation.

The world that they're creating very much seems to be intended for some species other than our own, bizarre as that sounds."

"For truth -- galen"

I believe Galen is right about the radiation war -- however I believe it a subset or several subsets of the human species that is intended to inhabit our habitat after we are gone.

Israel gave or sold the neutron bomb to China after stealing the design from us. The weapon kills population without destroying homes or buildings -- and the radiation is gamma radiation that does its damage all at once and then is gone. But I see another weapon being used -- and I see that it is the very best strategy one could think of for defeating the US, eliminating the undesirable inhabitants and moving in a great Eastward Expansion of East Asian peoples under the Red banner.

Large quantities of radio active iodine can be dropped on a country -- providing very high doses of radiation that will completely vanish in a few months -- having emitted away as Beta and gamma radiation (waves/particles) in a process that will leave a residue of non-radioactive isotopes.

In other words the dirty bomb that China and Israel (and "reds' in Japan -- "rothschild" means "red shield" as well as the traditional color of Rothschild backed revolutionary movements under the "communist" brand -- the dirty bomb they arranged and set off in Japan is going to bring radiation -- but that will only be cover for the stealth bombing of US populations with radio-active iodine -- flown perhaps by robot controlled "chemtrail" planes and landing, perhaps at fully automated air bases where they are reloaded with little risk of contamination to crews and worker (the numbers of which they wish to minimize for security reasons as well).

The US is now used to chemtrails -- some of us say it is poisoning us, some like me, have been saying it is related to weather modification that redirects air systems by laying cloud to reflect back the suns rays to cool the ground and thus raise air pressure in a region that can nudge neighboring air from its otherwise course. etc. BUT NOW THESE PLANES WILL BE DROPPING RADIOACTIVE IODINE which will cause cancer and birth defects and sterility and "Chernobyl AIDS" and a hundred other ailments, including perhaps outright radiation sickness -- that can be blamed on Fukushima. The particles dropped have a half life of only 8 days. They will do their killing and then disappear.

Proof? I have only what you already know about what is happening -- and the added insight that this is the means of attack that would best accomplish their stated and well demonstrated purpose. They have equipped themselves for it and it accomplishes their ends. I do not see them going as far as they have against us and not taking advantage of this very easy way of killing the enemy they long ago undertook to beat. The Japanese and God will be blamed. There will be no more Jeffersonian strongholds in America. Perhaps those cities like Vancouver and San Francisco, L.A., with large Chinese and Jewish populations will be spared. The short half-life of the Iodine makes that possible -- and, who knows, perhaps some even more deadly isotope of some element will be used that has an even shorter half life. It can be a beautiful sunny spring day, the freshest air when you breath it and it can carry death -- the chem spraying" above does not necessarily have to leave cloud creating chemtrails. In which case no one would notice a thing -- because chemtrail planes already are crisscrossing regions of the US skies undetected and un-remarked by authorities -- without the chemtrails themselves we will never know what was dropped on us.

Everything I have learned about how the problem of Fukushima fallout is not being property addressed in the US -- strengthens the hypothesis that the Chinese ruling elites and Israel have prepared the way with infiltration and institutional sabotage for unopposed warfare of this type.

Now let me see if I can recapture the solution I woke up with?

About Santa Claus. There are two ways of controlling the people of a state (among others perhaps). One is "Oriental Despotism" -- the government of the country decides everything and rules by laws and regulations -- by coercion -- by absolute power -- and people learn to live in conformity with the dictates of the state avoiding running up against those aversive constraints that keep them bounded to the state's plan.

The other system -- is ridiculed but it is actually much better. It merely tells people to be good and Santa Claus will bring you lots of good things. Santa knows if you have been naughty or nice and will reward you accordingly. That is the device invented by loving parents who want their children to internalize right and wrong by trying to second-guess Santa Claus -- "what would god santa claus want me to do?" -- and always do the right thing.

Oh the stupidity of those who deny the existence of Santa Claus merely on forensic logic. Santa Claus (I'm using metaphor here) is a child raising technique -- no! I take that back. Rather, Santa Claus is an adult-raising technique -- and the Chinese Philosopher Mo Ti, as well as Abraham, Isaac through to Moses and to he later prophets -- Jesus -- Mohammad gandhi and others have been given great wisdom -- wisdom I will not defile with the Santa Claus metaphor.

Americans are pragmatic and some of us are positivists and behaviorists -- at least by academic tradition, the philosophy of our best scientists and philosophers (more Skinner than Freud, for example) and so we can view Santa Claus as a technique of child rearing that is continued because of the good results it yields -- not gifts ---under the tree and not eternity in heaven (although there are presents under trees on Christmas morning and there is a lot of heavens surrounding the solar system -- not to mention the possibilities of dimensions of which we are not aware -- I am an agnostic on these -- but it doesn't matter -- I know my church is true -- true in a very sound and practical sense -- we love God and man and our reward is in heaven from our heavenly father. Who would deny any man his relationship with God? Who would burn a heretic at the stake? Who would burn a Bible or a copy of the Holy Koran?

Anyway, we are facing extermination or extreme poverty and slavery with very poor health.

For years, I have wanted people to rise up and agree with me on what is happening to the country -- to as a united people of all American races and creeds to rise up and point the finger at Zionists Jews and China's dictatorship -- so that seeing that their plans are discovered by the entire world and that their plans and methods are clearly not what the entire world wants for themselves -- that they could be shamed and pressured by overwhelming popular opinion to back off their conspiracies and their Sun Tsu warfare -- and adopt once more the thinking of Mo Ti -- that all men are brothers and should consider each other family.

I would offer that if China would help us throw off rule by criminal conspirators -- they could indeed have open relations here -- immigrate here in large numbers -- with the Japanese who could also come here if their lands are too badly contaminated with long lasting radioactive matter.

In exchange for not killing us -- we would forget all that has been done in the past by Jews and by communist conspiracy -- simply a war that has come to an end and peace declared and the enemies decide to get along as friends from now on.

China can have 100 percent ownership of all factories in China -- take all shares owned by Americans and British etc. Take it as payment to the Chinese people for the toil they have put in producing the goods that American's paid for their second mortgages etc.

And the Chinese can benefit much more from allowing other races other countries grow in economic productivity and creativity -- as long as the usury mechanism that creates imperialism is gone -- all nations can benefit from creating their own cultures and ways -- their own concepts of the good and beautiful the noble and just -- different ideals -- different values -- and it not be a threat -- because one nation does not have to economically exploit another any more -- because the problem of usury has been found out, because the solution of social credit -- government makes the money and distributes it evenly to everybody has also been found out. Every nation will flower. And the soldiers and bureaucrats and the criminals who do not know how to work, who have no land, who have no skills or work ethic -- will receive social credit and they can being to learn something good for them to do without have to worry about starving while they do so.

I say China does not have to fear Americans, or Thomas Jefferson or Social Credit -- and we do not have to remember what has been done in the past. There is a Christian saying from the bible -- all have sinned and fallen short. But all can be reborn to a life of loving and serving ones neighbor of ones own free will.

To Jews -- I can be offered the same deal -- all that revisionist historians have found out -- can be put aside -- if you will renounce Talmud and write a new document -- based on the good in your traditions -- so you can live in a world as if everyone was Jewish -- where being Jewish means you are benefactors of mankind -- loved and respected for the wisdom you have gained from all of the cultures you have lived in -- but elevated even higher by the learned tricks you have learned to put aside -- as you interpret the scriptures anew.

I am bargaining for the lives of my countrymen, for the continuation of my civilization, for the lifting of the sabotage measures that have been working against us. I think China, that is all Chinese -- and all Vietnamese and all North Koreans will gain over the centuries living in a world with many cultures being tried under many and varied governments -- freed from the usury that leads to imperialism, war and exploitation.

I believe that the Chinese would welcome that evolution of China. I think they have been looking for that kind of peaceful evolution, waiting like a child waits for Santa Claus.

All governments make mistakes and do injustice -- but they can change their ways -- they can do right. Things can be done so that the crime syndicates -- those able people who struggled to the top of a very evil and unjust world -- can trade their absolute power -- trade it for a new system in which our past is forgiven and forgotten and in which a new fellowship with opportunity for all to find ways to give us all health and happiness with a minimum of work -- except the good works we want to give away because we all know that Santa Claus is real -- that he is the wise adult minds that are looking out for all of us.

Another name for this might have been Fukushima meets Pollyanna. But I am sure that somebody reading this will see the truth I am driving for -- the deal we all must make to really benefit mankind.

Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/eastmanfukushimameetspolyana10apr11.shtml

[loveandgratitude]

Japanese Blog: "Clear Evidence" Rockefeller Behind 3/11 and Sabotaged Nuclear Reactors

From Richard Koshimizu, Tokyo <sunrisesjapan@yahoo.co.jp>
http://educate-yourself.org/lte/japaneseblogrockefellerevidence09apr11.shtml
April 9, 2011

Japanese Blog: "Clear Evidence" Rockefeller Behind 3/11 and Sabotaged Nuclear Reactors (April 9, 2011)

Clear Evidence: The truth of 3/11 seismic terror

(Blog articles only in Japanese: http://richardkoshimizu.at.webry.info/)

It's a Rockefeller set up.

1. The 3/11 quake was the combination of three consecutive man-made quakes triggered by nuclear weapons. Thus, the initial peak of seismic wave was high and long. This cannot be a natural earthquake.

2. The 3/11 TSUNAMI was created with nuclear weapons planted at seabed by U.S. Forces, therefore, those who swallowed the sea water into lungs are diagnosed with internal radiation and are dying.

2. Seawater is contanimated with radioactivity by the 3/11 nuclear weapons while the Japanese government, controlled by David Rockefeller, tries to blame the radiation of on No.3 Reactor, pretending there is leakage.

3. No.3 Fukushima Nuclear Reactor's building was secretly destroyed by a small plutonium bomb so that people would think all the radioactivity came from No.3 Reactor.

4. David Rockefeller may still use more Nuclear weapons in Japan and will pin the guilt on No.3 Reactor for any radioactive leakage.

5. D.Rockefeller's next plan is to cause a Japanese volcano to erupt. More than 10 active volcanos are already attacked by nuclear bombs that could promote leakage of magma. They have already managed a case at Mt. Shin-moe-dake.

6. D.Rockefeller will implement a similar tactics in the U.S. and other areas in order to allow Christians to believe that this could be the initiation of Armageddon before the "Second Ccoming". But, one should know that D. Rockefeller is a Marrano Jew who tries to make use of Christians to establish a ONE WORLD to be reigned by STEALTH JEWISH masters.

Richard Koshimizu, Tokyo
rickoshi@fine.ocn.ne.jp

http://richardkoshimizu.at.webry.info/ (Japanese only)

[gripreaper]

I think we need to be careful. If we roll back the clock to the beginning of the industrial age, before oil was the predominant commodity and controlled almost all of commerce, you had the filthy rich Rothschild dynasty which commissioned the Rockefellers as their agents in the United States, and they gave them the rights to the oil. I would postulate that at that time, the Rothchilds had no idea how powerful and how full scale the oil cartel would become, and at some point the Rockefeller agents had as much power or more than the original Rothchild dynasty, and this has created a schism at the top.

So, let's be careful what we wish for, as in the taking down of the US agents of oil, and let us not put in place as a replacement the very thing that perpetuated the power struggle at the top. If we can take advantage of this event and bring in a new paradigm of the people, and not let the destruction of the oil cartel turn into the original provocateurs regain of total power, then we can succeed.

Just keep in mind that things are not always as they seem, and the very event of taking down the Federal Reserve and the oil cartel could be a planned false flag to usher in a new global power structure while we do their bidding for them.

[loveandgratitude]

There Is No Meltdown at Daiichi!


[Editor's Note: I put up an article on March 12, 2011 in which I posted seismographic evidence that the March 11 earthquake off the coast of Japan was artificially created. A few days later, I updated the same article with additional information gathered by ZS Livingstone (and others) that the nuclear reactors at Daiichi in Fukushima prefecture were subjected to acts of sabotage and that the reactor explosions reported in the news as being caused by hydrogen gas, were in fact the results of an explosive (as in bomb) detonation, probably a small nuclear device.

ZSL, Don Nicoloff, and myself have devoted three radio shows On March 16, 24, and 31 to the topic of the engineered March 11 earthquake and the sabotaged nuclear reactors ~ all designed to meet a Rockefeller desired political/economic agenda and effect a worldwide "radiation" scare-mongering psyops.

The "sky-is-falling" hysteria is being mostly fed by Leftist, anti-nuclear proponents with names like Lauren Moret (with Alfred Webre), Christopher Busby, and Rep. Edward Markey. Jeff Rense's web site has simply been bursting with dire articles and interviews about the looming nuclear winter radiation holocaust that is just around the corner as the guesstimates, exaggerations, and hyperbole ascend to a fevered pitch. The title of the article seen further below by Stephen Lendman (an otherwise thoughtful writer) is "Fukushima Core Meltdown Confirmed." I noticed that Stephen had quoted House Democrat anti-nuclear energy alarmist Rep. Edward Markey as saying that the NRC had told him that the fuel rods had "probably" melted through the reactor core into the lower containment vessel. I asked Jeff Rense in an e-mail sent yesterday: since when does the word "probably" equate to "confirmed?" He did not reply.

This article is an important and revealing exposition about the enormous deception surrounding the Daiichi nuclear facility. ZS Livingstone is employing his God-given faculties of observation, logic and deductive reasoning to cut through the unbelievable media-created hype and arrive at LOGICAL conclusions, which are far different than those expressed in Stephen Lendman's article. You could do the same thing: think, and do not passively accept the hysterical conclusions assembled by others.....Ken Adachi]

By Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone
http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/japanphonymeltdownpsyops10apr11.shtml
April 10, 2011

There Is No Meltdown at Daiichi! by ZS Livingstone (April 10, 2011)

The helicopter photograph of the zirconium alloy uranium fuel rod storage racks show no fuel rods. The racks are empty. The racks and the crane on top of the racks is not burnt or melted. If the rods had remained in the nuclear core without coolant there would have been a meltdown and there would have been a plume of steam and smoke as the uranium melted through the bottom of the containment building into the water table below. The plume of steam and smoke would have been the most photographed event ever. If the fuel rods were in the racks when the bomb went off they would have been molten pile of sticks when the water level was allowed to drop.

There is no plume of steam and smoke.There were no fuel rods in the core. There were no old fuel rods in storage in the building.

All the experts probably knew there was no uranium in the building as soon as the photograph was released. They are part of the psy-op. Jeff Rense is part of the psy-op. Stephen Lendman is part of the psy-op.

The sixty men at the plant knew there was no danger other than the fallout of the nuclear devise which blew the roof off reactor number 3. It is possible the US Navy helicopter which tried to add water to the storage tank may have dropped the radioactive water later detected on the site.

The MOX fuel fast breeder story placed on reactor number 3 was a lie too. Japan does not have a nuclear weapons program. The plutonium detected was from the small nuke bomb planted in the building.

The radio-active seawater is due to the bombs used to create some of the earthquakes and the tsunami. There could have been canisters of radio-active materials dumped near the shore.

Somebody with the Tokyo Power company or the Japanese government ordered the pulling of the fuel rods possibly in 2010 when the Bonin Islands 1200 kilometres south of Tokyo were hit with clusters of manmade earthquakes. They may have discovered the nukes hidden in the containment buildings and not wanting to trigger them left them where they were and pulled the fuel rods.

The planners of the attack on Japan are furious. They have continued the artificial earthquakes.

This Stephen Lendman article says Japan planned the meltdown in order to poison America. This is a classic example of the bully saying the victim faked his black-eye.

The politics going on between leaders worldwide must be intriguing. The byplay between Washington and Tokyo must be frank and honest.

This is the fifth nuclear war since 9-11. The psy-op has failed to create the fear and hatred desired.

Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone

http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/japanphonymeltdownpsyops10apr11.shtml

[Ross]

Exercising my free will, I dont buy any of it. As a Fellow being I give my recognition to BF for standing for what he believes, but that as far as Im willing to go.

Ross

[jackovesk]

Japanese Blog: "Clear Evidence" Rockefeller Behind 3/11 and Sabotaged Nuclear Reactors

From Richard Koshimizu, Tokyo <sunrisesjapan@yahoo.co.jp>
http://educate-yourself.org/lte/japaneseblogrockefellerevidence09apr11.shtml
April 9, 2011

Japanese Blog: "Clear Evidence" Rockefeller Behind 3/11 and Sabotaged Nuclear Reactors (April 9, 2011)

Clear Evidence: The truth of 3/11 seismic terror

(Blog articles only in Japanese: http://richardkoshimizu.at.webry.info/)

It's a Rockefeller set up.

1. The 3/11 quake was the combination of three consecutive man-made quakes triggered by nuclear weapons. Thus, the initial peak of seismic wave was high and long. This cannot be a natural earthquake.

2. The 3/11 TSUNAMI was created with nuclear weapons planted at seabed by U.S. Forces, therefore, those who swallowed the sea water into lungs are diagnosed with internal radiation and are dying.

2. Seawater is contanimated with radioactivity by the 3/11 nuclear weapons while the Japanese government, controlled by David Rockefeller, tries to blame the radiation of on No.3 Reactor, pretending there is leakage.

3. No.3 Fukushima Nuclear Reactor's building was secretly destroyed by a small plutonium bomb so that people would think all the radioactivity came from No.3 Reactor.

4. David Rockefeller may still use more Nuclear weapons in Japan and will pin the guilt on No.3 Reactor for any radioactive leakage.

5. D.Rockefeller's next plan is to cause a Japanese volcano to erupt. More than 10 active volcanos are already attacked by nuclear bombs that could promote leakage of magma. They have already managed a case at Mt. Shin-moe-dake.

6. D.Rockefeller will implement a similar tactics in the U.S. and other areas in order to allow Christians to believe that this could be the initiation of Armageddon before the "Second Ccoming". But, one should know that D. Rockefeller is a Marrano Jew who tries to make use of Christians to establish a ONE WORLD to be reigned by STEALTH JEWISH masters.

Richard Koshimizu, Tokyo
rickoshi@fine.ocn.ne.jp

http://richardkoshimizu.at.webry.info/ (Japanese only)

Differing Opinions makes for a Healthy Discussion...

I myself am not sure what or who to believe?

Watch these 2 Videos below -

Is it the..?

1. NWO's Earthquake Weapon? see the 1st Video...

Or....

2. The ET's / UFO's coming out of the Volcano to conteract it?

Or....

3. Are the ET's part of the NWO Agenda aswell?

One thing I do know, it aint No Exploding Electrical Transformer as some have reported in the MSM!

This is very interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8kgCEEJe0Y


Now Compare the Day Vision Video with the Night Vision Below! Eerily Similar!

Can anyone see an exploding Electrical Transformer in the Day Vison? Didn't think so...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYwoOqAH41g&feature=player_embedded

[jorr lundstrom]

I'll get emotional too, but only when I find "those hundereds of Asian ninja's" actually went out and defeated the Elite. :cool:

Maybye you will have your emotional moments, who knows.:yo:

[loveandgratitude]

FOLKS - WE ARE LIVING IN SERIOUS TIMES.
Telling people the truth is difficult. People do not want the truth. Yes - UFO's are involved in this story.
Always have been.

We have brave people stepping up to tell the truth at the moment. I honour those people.l
Stay focused. Not a time to have in-fighting. Just look at the information and not going after the messenger. It is a common for people to shoot the messenger just because they have a difficult time with the information.
There is attack on the messenger, attack on the person, instead just look at the information.

These people care enough about you to bring the information. Do you get it. Crazy insane people are trying to kill you off. They are doing a good job of it. Just to sit there and fight and argue about words. Maybe make peace with your maker, friends and enemies would be a better way to use your words at this time.

The only way we can make it at this time is divine intervention. Are you ready to step up and ask, pray, and send out healing energies at this dangerous moment in time.

[Hervé]

Watch these 2 Videos below - Is it the NWO's Earthquake Weapon seen in the 1st Video?

Or....

The ET's / UFO's coming out of the Volcano to conteract it Or are they part of the NWO Agenda aswell?



What about street lights right in the face of the cam? One can see vehicles' headlights zipping on road in that vicinity. Then, it also keeps lighting up every night at the same time and shut off in the mornings.

As for the things seemingly zipping off the volacano top, due to the accelerated pace of the video, is actually much slower in real time and closer to planes and accompanying con trails... never seen UFOs with contrails unless they are chemtrailing.

Good try though.

[ViralSpiral]

http://toppun.com/Great-Quotes/Peace-Quotes/Peace-Quote-2.gif

[Calz]

Exercising my free will, I dont buy any of it. As a Fellow being I give my recognition to BF for standing for what he believes, but that as far as Im willing to go.

Ross

Thank you Ross,

Absolutely everyone should have their voice heard provided it is done in a respectful manner.

And that is exactly what you have done here. :yo:

[Calz]

I expect it would behove us to turn down the decibles a bit ...

Else Cow the Destroyer of Posts will be here soon to send a few exchanges into LaLa Land :lalala:

:laser::blah::blah::blah:


Remember we *are* on the same side correct? People here are *not* the "enemy".

Yes stand up for the right to exchange ideas but keep it civil :)

[mod-edit: normally when I remove from public view uncivil posts, I also delete the follow-up and response posts as well, for they are no longer relevant However I will confess to a personal bias that favored leaving this post visible. -Paul.]

[ThePythonicCow]

This thread is temporarily closed for repairs.

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This thread is now reopen.

[Teakai]

There Is No Meltdown at Daiichi!


[Editor's Note: I put up an article on March 12, 2011 in which I posted seismographic evidence that the March 11 earthquake off the coast of Japan was artificially created. A few days later, I updated the same article with additional information gathered by ZS Livingstone (and others) that the nuclear reactors at Daiichi in Fukushima prefecture were subjected to acts of sabotage and that the reactor explosions reported in the news as being caused by hydrogen gas, were in fact the results of an explosive (as in bomb) detonation, probably a small nuclear device.

ZSL, Don Nicoloff, and myself have devoted three radio shows On March 16, 24, and 31 to the topic of the engineered March 11 earthquake and the sabotaged nuclear reactors ~ all designed to meet a Rockefeller desired political/economic agenda and effect a worldwide "radiation" scare-mongering psyops.

The "sky-is-falling" hysteria is being mostly fed by Leftist, anti-nuclear proponents with names like Lauren Moret (with Alfred Webre), Christopher Busby, and Rep. Edward Markey. Jeff Rense's web site has simply been bursting with dire articles and interviews about the looming nuclear winter radiation holocaust that is just around the corner as the guesstimates, exaggerations, and hyperbole ascend to a fevered pitch. The title of the article seen further below by Stephen Lendman (an otherwise thoughtful writer) is "Fukushima Core Meltdown Confirmed." I noticed that Stephen had quoted House Democrat anti-nuclear energy alarmist Rep. Edward Markey as saying that the NRC had told him that the fuel rods had "probably" melted through the reactor core into the lower containment vessel. I asked Jeff Rense in an e-mail sent yesterday: since when does the word "probably" equate to "confirmed?" He did not reply.

This article is an important and revealing exposition about the enormous deception surrounding the Daiichi nuclear facility. ZS Livingstone is employing his God-given faculties of observation, logic and deductive reasoning to cut through the unbelievable media-created hype and arrive at LOGICAL conclusions, which are far different than those expressed in Stephen Lendman's article. You could do the same thing: think, and do not passively accept the hysterical conclusions assembled by others.....Ken Adachi]

By Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone
http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/japanphonymeltdownpsyops10apr11.shtml
April 10, 2011

There Is No Meltdown at Daiichi! by ZS Livingstone (April 10, 2011)

The helicopter photograph of the zirconium alloy uranium fuel rod storage racks show no fuel rods. The racks are empty. The racks and the crane on top of the racks is not burnt or melted. If the rods had remained in the nuclear core without coolant there would have been a meltdown and there would have been a plume of steam and smoke as the uranium melted through the bottom of the containment building into the water table below. The plume of steam and smoke would have been the most photographed event ever. If the fuel rods were in the racks when the bomb went off they would have been molten pile of sticks when the water level was allowed to drop.

There is no plume of steam and smoke.There were no fuel rods in the core. There were no old fuel rods in storage in the building.

All the experts probably knew there was no uranium in the building as soon as the photograph was released. They are part of the psy-op. Jeff Rense is part of the psy-op. Stephen Lendman is part of the psy-op.

The sixty men at the plant knew there was no danger other than the fallout of the nuclear devise which blew the roof off reactor number 3. It is possible the US Navy helicopter which tried to add water to the storage tank may have dropped the radioactive water later detected on the site.

The MOX fuel fast breeder story placed on reactor number 3 was a lie too. Japan does not have a nuclear weapons program. The plutonium detected was from the small nuke bomb planted in the building.

The radio-active seawater is due to the bombs used to create some of the earthquakes and the tsunami. There could have been canisters of radio-active materials dumped near the shore.

Somebody with the Tokyo Power company or the Japanese government ordered the pulling of the fuel rods possibly in 2010 when the Bonin Islands 1200 kilometres south of Tokyo were hit with clusters of manmade earthquakes. They may have discovered the nukes hidden in the containment buildings and not wanting to trigger them left them where they were and pulled the fuel rods.

The planners of the attack on Japan are furious. They have continued the artificial earthquakes.

This Stephen Lendman article says Japan planned the meltdown in order to poison America. This is a classic example of the bully saying the victim faked his black-eye.

The politics going on between leaders worldwide must be intriguing. The byplay between Washington and Tokyo must be frank and honest.

This is the fifth nuclear war since 9-11. The psy-op has failed to create the fear and hatred desired.

Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone

http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/japanphonymeltdownpsyops10apr11.shtml

But...what's the point of faking it?

[Calz]

But...what's the point of faking it?

I am not there ... nor do I know squat about radiation.

It does seem remarkable how wildly opposed the information coming out is however.

How hard can it be to measure radiation??? With so many people following this now how could "the truth" be suppressed???

Yes the energy industry has the deepest (darkest) pockets of all ... but c'mon :noidea:

[Ross]

But...what's the point of faking it?

who knows? but I would like to see all here who think there is no radiation, no partial meltdown, no blown spent fuel rod pools, to go and have a lil wander and see for yourself, sit a while and have a picnic, pick some grown foods and milk some cows within a 80km radius and have a feast...

afterwards, go have a splash around the sub-basements of the reactor rooms...

But if you did, I would do my best to stop you...and if you still did, then I would assume you were suffering from complete deluded denial.

no ill intention towards anyone...hugs to all;)

Ross

[Etherios]

So the US radiation readings are false? The EU radiation readings are false? The Korean radiation readings are false?

Even the governments see an Increase in radiation BUT "Its in safe lvls dont worry" but they still measure a difference... are they all lying? Who knows... maybe.

I really want to know why and WHO is lying...

[Ross]

You are all welcome to read this thread...plenty of info here for your discerning pleasure.

http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?1101-Japan-Nuclear-thread-Part-2

This guy in particular:

http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?1101-Japan-Nuclear-thread-Part-2&p=8426&viewfull=1#post8426

[loveandgratitude]

The radio-active seawater is due to the bombs used to create some of the earthquakes and the tsunami. There could have been canisters of radio-active materials dumped near the shore.

Many of the survivors of the tsunami died later from radiation poision in the first 3 days. Many question, some many answers need to be found.

ONCE AGAIN - do not attack the messenger, just look at the information that Fulford brings.

[Anchor]

Crazy insane people are trying to kill you off.

Trying being the operative word


They are doing a good job of it.

No they are not so far. If they were doing a good job the worlds population would be going down not up.


The only way we can make it at this time is divine intervention.

That would be all of us then - no other. We fix it or we die.

If we don't act we dont get help.

Simple as that.

Sitting down and waiting for intervention will fail.

John..

[Eric J (Viking)]

Crazy insane people are trying to kill you off.

Trying being the operative word


They are doing a good job of it.

No they are not so far. If they were doing a good job the worlds population would be going down not up.


The only way we can make it at this time is divine intervention.

That would be all of us then - no other. We fix it or we die.

If we don't act we dont get help.

Simple as that.

Sitting down and waiting for intervention will fail.

John..

I agree John...

Yes of course we've got to act...but at the moment it is an unfair dual...if we had all the resource the ptb have, they wouldn't stand a chance...

With a little bit of intervention it will tip the balance.. ;-)

viking

[Hervé]

But...what's the point of faking it?

You know, like all the bugs that float in the air that you can't see but you are told are there by the highest authorities/priests in the field... H1N1 and all the hype that surrounded it... level 6 pandemic... changing the definition of pandemic... no, no, no... no parallels intended, it would be purely accidental and a weird coincidence, etc...

[modwiz]

Trying being the operative word

No they are not so far. If they were doing a good job the worlds population would be going down not up.

That would be all of us then - no other. We fix it or we die.

If we don't act we dont get help.

Simple as that.

Sitting down and waiting for intervention will fail.

John..

I agree John...

Yes of course we've got to act...but at the moment it is an unfair dual...if we had all the resource the ptb have, they wouldn't stand a chance...

With a little bit of intervention it will tip the balance.. ;-)

viking

If we had their unity, focus and sense of common cause they, the PTB would be so farked. This is much more about consiousness. Two percent of USA taking to the streets peacefully would be six million people. Enough to overwhelm any force "they" could marshal and "their" hired thugs would soil their pants and quit.

[Eric J (Viking)]

I agree John...

Yes of course we've got to act...but at the moment it is an unfair dual...if we had all the resource the ptb have, they wouldn't stand a chance...

With a little bit of intervention it will tip the balance.. ;-)

viking

If we had their unity, focus and sense of common cause they, the PTB would be so farked. This is much more about consiousness. Two percent of USA taking to the streets peacefully would be six million people. Enough to overwhelm any force "they" could marshal and "their" hired thugs would soil their pants and quit.

Again I agree Modwiz...I pray the consciousness is spreading as far as we would like it to...

We can only keep doing what we are doing, and hopefully consciousness will take care of itself...

The full knowledge of ET (with the masses) would turn consciousness on its head over night...

viking

[Hervé]

This guy in particular:

http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?1101-Japan-Nuclear-thread-Part-2&p=8426&viewfull=1#post8426

Interesting set of photographs. My question is, seeing these blown out and burnt rooftops, where are these 40+ years of spent fuel rods located?

I don't see any cooling pools left, yet there's more radio active material in these "spent" fuel rods than anywhere else.

[loveandgratitude]

Trying being the operative word -

How many died in the asian tsunami..................still unknown
How many died in the japanese tsunami.............50,000 +
How many died in the Iraqi War..............in the millions
How many died in the Afghani War...........in the millions
How many died from pharmacuetical medicine..........most of the deaths in the USA & Australia is due to pharmacuetical medicine
How many died in World War 2
How many died In World War 1
How many died in all the other holocausts in the world that are unreported............
How many died in Haiti.........
How many died in Mexician drug wars..........
How many died in the USA from Gang violence.............
How many in the Vietnam War
How many fathers, brother, mothers, sisters, friends taken by war.....for what?
How many people sickned by vaccines, by GMO's. by chemtrails poisioning - to weaken the system
How many years has this been going on.......wars through the centuries????
How many lives been cut short, pain and sufering........

I tell you 1 life cut short is 1 too many for me...........

They Elite have admitted it.................."What an amazing world and amazing technologies you would have if we did not intervene in your world."

John, if your world started rocking and shaking, the ground opening up in front of you, would you pray?

Many times I have received intervention when i was on the doors of death. So many times I have lost count. I understand divine intervention and it works. I love and I am grateful for these interventions. Thank you Thank You Divine spirits.

[Teakai]

But...what's the point of faking it?

You know, like all the bugs that float in the air that you can't see but you are told are there by the highest authorities/priests in the field... H1N1 and all the hype that surrounded it... level 6 pandemic... changing the definition of pandemic... no, no, no... no parallels intended, it would be purely accidental and a weird coincidence, etc...

Possibly Amzer - but that seems a little too smooth. There was a huge earthquake - it did affect the reactors. If it was intentionally done in order for the ptw to release something else into the air (and not the radiation) to depopulate - then that's a big risk to take.

And it would be very difficult to keep that under wraps.

Just remembered - there was an article about Rockefeller and his family and Gates being over in India - where there are radiation proof bunkers - just prior to the earthquake.

[Buchanan561]

You are all welcome to read this thread...plenty of info here for your discerning pleasure.

http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?1101-Japan-Nuclear-thread-Part-2

This guy in particular:


http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?1101-Japan-Nuclear-thread-Part-2&p=8426&viewfull=1#post8426



Thanks Ross for putting those links here. I was frowned upon for doing the same a couple of weeks ago by someone here. But I think that sharing important information is more important than not sharing information from one forum to another in fear of being chasitsed for doing so especially when needed.

They have excellent reports on nexus2012 on the Japan mishap? and the resulting consequences that continue to follow. Mainly our health around the world. Nuclear fall out that contaminates our air, water, food, yes milk, and everything.

The crops growing in the field are not safe to eat. What is? A part of their population reduction plan? If you don't starve to death then the radiation will do it in long term. Not fear mongering here as I am not in fear, but I do live in a world of reality of which I cannot turn my back on and pretend it does not exist. Great job over there as well as here. Sharing makes a big difference it seems. Emma

[Hervé]

Possibly Amzer - but that seems a little too smooth. There was a huge earthquake - it did affect the reactors. If it was intentionally done in order for the ptw to release something else into the air (and not the radiation) to depopulate - then that's a big risk to take.

You are probably right about that one, misdirected attention... so, what is it we are not looking at?

With the H1N1 scare, the vaccines were the real danger (i.e. the "solution").

With this one pretty soon no food wiill be safe to feed on... Monsanto? Getting rid of what's left of organic farmers?

All I know for the moment is there's an overhype on one hand and a "it's there but it's safe" on the other hand.

That's a recipe to keep most everyone confused.

[shiva777]

The radio-active seawater is due to the bombs used to create some of the earthquakes and the tsunami. There could have been canisters of radio-active materials dumped near the shore.

Many of the survivors of the tsunami died later from radiation poision in the first 3 days. Many question, some many answers need to be found.

ONCE AGAIN - do not attack the messenger, just look at the information that Fulford brings.

are you serious?...
...it's important to face facts and look at both the message and the messenger...Fulford claims that there are no unusual levels of radiation in Tokyo...that is clearly FALSE and a harmful message to send people.Now that we see that Fulford has once again proven that he has a habit of DENYING the facts to suit his own beliefs..and delusions..we have a better idea of how seriously to take the rest of his message...any evidence of the "trillions of dollars" that are about to be released to solve the worlds problems?..no..I didn't think so.

Distractions and delusions do not help the world situation they just help to numb people,keep them complacent and hoping that some outside source is going to save them from themselves.
Not "everything that glitters is gold"..and Fulfords glittery message is definitely not gold.

http://theintelhub.com/2011/04/13/real-experts-speak-japanese-radiation-risk-in-us-400000-to-develop-cancer-in-japan/

[jackovesk]

Ben Fulfords Latest...

Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis 2011-04-11:

"Sarkozy and Soros send negotiator to visit White Dragon Society but talks inconclusive?

This weekend a French agent was sent by George Soros, French President Nicholas Sarkozy and other senior Zionists to negotiate with the White Dragon Society.

The talks, which lasted for two days, were inconclusive. However, the agent made it clear the European branch of the Zionists truly feared a collapse of the Euro, while their American counterparts are finally beginning to realize they might actually end up in jail.

At the same time, their attitude was so haughty it made arrogance seem like a form of humility. They also made many threats but the fact is that they are running scared and they are running out of time."

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

All the World asks is, STOP trying to be a Prophet and start backing up your STORIES Up with FACT! Like any Honest Journalist would!!!

I am starting to question Why only you and the likes of Charlie Rose were ever given a 1 on 1 interview with David Rockefeller?

PS - Opinion whether informed or NOT, does NOT equal Fact!!!

[Teakai]

You are probably right about that one, misdirected attention... so, what is it we are not looking at?

With the H1N1 scare, the vaccines were the real danger (i.e. the "solution").

With this one pretty soon no food wiill be safe to feed on... Monsanto? Getting rid of what's left of organic farmers?

All I know for the moment is there's an overhype on one hand and a "it's there but it's safe" on the other hand.

That's a recipe to keep most everyone confused.

I think they're perfectly happy with keeping us confused, Amzer. :) A confused populace is an unorganised populace.

We know the plan is depopulation.

(Thought just popped into my head that ascension might be about moving out of their time line.)

[shiva777]

http://web.mac.com/len15/WAR_on_We_The_People/Evidence_Japans_Nuclear_Crisis_Was_Planned.html
Benjamin Fulford the cointelpro agent and the Japanese situation

Benjamin Fulford and COINTELPRO

Soon after the events of March 11, Benjamin Fulford posted a YouTube presentation blaming, and allegedly threatening the Illuminati for the crisis.
Curiously, Fulford maintains close family ties to David Rockefeller, founder of the Partnership for New York City, implicated as a virtual trade organization for crisis capitalism.
As fears grew about nuke-industry-rads poisoning America, Fulford charged unnamed members of the Illuminati with orchestrating the catastrophe.

He blamed the nuclear disaster, and the initial “earthquake” and tsunami, on a directed nuclear detonation. His contention that it was a “unidirectional wave “ is probably correct. ( CLICK HERE to read.)


Watching Fulford’s YouTube commentary is a study in hypocrisy and lacking credibility. This is best explained by the technique of Controlled Opposition. Watch carefully Fulford’s presentation, and ask yourself these questions:
1) Why would a veteran journalist, alleged crusader for righteousness, appear in this important film like he just got out of bed?

2) Why is Fulford’s hair worse than uncombed, it appears unkempt, and why does he look drugged, or burned out from drugs?

3) Why is Fulford’s shirt draped askew for this important, allegedly serious, news commentary and Illuminati condemnation and assassination threat?

4) Why would Fulford choose a grey morbid backdrop that is distractingly creased?

5) Why do Fulford’s allegations lack evidence? Is this a serious opponent to Illuminati malfeasance?

6) Why do Fulford’s film clips neglect simple edits that any responsible professional would deem compelled for the sake of integrity?

The answers to the above questions are all “Controlled Opposition,” distraction, and discrediting opposition.”


As this example reveals, the Illuminati uses the media, including paid opponents, to reveal their secrets, but discredits the disclosures, honest messages, and their messengers.

This COINTELPRO activity plays on the God-granted right of free will. “Informed Consent” is more than a legal right, it is a spiritual endowment granted by God. The Illuminati’s theology, apparently, compels them to reveal what they are doing, or not doing, through television, film, and the print media, giving people their choice to accept, or not, the truth and imposed conditions. But by controlling, distracting, and discrediting opposition, people believe the facts are fiction, and choose to neglect or condemn the truth that could set them free from deadly deceptions.

Hegelian Dialectic and COINTELPRO Dissonance

All of the above ploys was done, in Fulford’s example, to discredit the nuclear bomb theory, and the notion that the crisis was profitably contrived. Negative audience perception was assured by the subliminal dissonance caused by the many negative cues that Fulford generated. In essence, Fulford made the notion of nuclear sabotage precipitating the Japanese crisis, seem incredible.

This outcome is classically called “Hegelian dissonance,” and is routinely generated by intelligence agencies and COINTELPRO propagandists to numb minds confused by such irrationality.

Hegelian dissonance is fundamental to Controlled Opposition always used by COINTELPRO agents serving blood-spilling wealth sinks and energy drains include David Rockefeller, George H.W. Bush, and their Illuminati cohorts in Europe; especially the Rothschilds of London and Berlin that control the global economy through the Rothschild League of Banks that include Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan Chase.

Fulford’s threatened retaliation against these members of the economic oligarchy is absurd. He purposely neglected to name those guilty of genocide and ecocide, further discrediting himself and protecting them.

Fulford’s History Links Him to the CIA/FBI/COINTELPRO


and the Authors of this Report: Horowitz and Kane

Fulford’s production provides the opportunity to examine his motives and alliances that are most revealing.

In August, 2010, these authors busted Fulford for being a COINTELPRO CIA/FBI agent provocateur, implicated in at least two recent assassinations of journalists. These include the world’s leading financial industries whistleblower, Edward Harle (pen named, Christopher Story), and Idaho Observer, Editor, and Bush family nemesis, Don Harkins.

Fulford, along with the Bushes and their CIA gestapo, was fingered by Harle as having threatened Harle’s life not long before his assassination. Then, after Harle’s death, Fulford forged Harle’s final report critical of the Bush family and CIA’s financial dealings. Fulford attached to it, then circulated, another forged document-—a Knights of Malta list—falsely claiming Dr. Horowitz’s membership and alliance with alleged Vatican assassins, to discredit the doctor—a humanitarian pacifist and activist prompting the 528LOVERevolution. The initial forgery was created by Fulford’s ally, Canadian/American CIA/FBI COINTELPRO agent provocateur Greg Szmanski, J.D., alias Eric Samuelson, J.D.

Between 2007 and 2010, the co-conspirators worked to discredit Horowitz, his ground-breaking research on AIDS and other vaccination genocides, and more recently Sherri Kane, for their co-authored works exposing cartel leaders in crisis capitalism.

read the entire artcle from Dr Horowitz here
http://web.mac.com/len15/WAR_on_We_The_People/Evidence_Japans_Nuclear_Crisis_Was_Planned.html

[TigaHawk]

The radio-active seawater is due to the bombs used to create some of the earthquakes and the tsunami. There could have been canisters of radio-active materials dumped near the shore.

Many of the survivors of the tsunami died later from radiation poision in the first 3 days. Many question, some many answers need to be found.

ONCE AGAIN - do not attack the messenger, just look at the information that Fulford brings.



I do not think that is the case.


I think here is what happend with the seawater - why noone seems to care is kinda worrying.


The earthquake diddnt damage the reactors -the tsunami did.

When the tsunami hit it took uot their power, and emergecny power generators. These generators were pumping coolant around the rods. Without fresh/new coolant to pass thru it just heats up and up and... we know what happens next....

Because they had no power - and because of the situation - they needed to cool the fuel rods, then and there. So they did the the only logical thing they could have in those situations.

They switched the coolant with sea water.

Now imagine a giant U pipe. In the middle of the U pipe are the rods. Seawater goes in one end, passes over the rods, then back out into the ocean.

They'd have needed a continaul supply of water too - with no means of cooling the sea water - which would heat up much quicker than coolant...

So.... in my eyes.... Dont touch anything that comes out of the ocean for... several...lifetimes...

[Rocky_Shorz]

FOLKS - WE ARE LIVING IN SERIOUS TIMES.
Telling people the truth is difficult. People do not want the truth. Yes - UFO's are involved in this story.
Always have been.

We have brave people stepping up to tell the truth at the moment. I honour those people.l
Stay focused. Not a time to have in-fighting. Just look at the information and not going after the messenger. It is a common for people to shoot the messenger just because they have a difficult time with the information.
There is attack on the messenger, attack on the person, instead just look at the information.

These people care enough about you to bring the information. Do you get it. Crazy insane people are trying to kill you off. They are doing a good job of it. Just to sit there and fight and argue about words. Maybe make peace with your maker, friends and enemies would be a better way to use your words at this time.

The only way we can make it at this time is divine intervention. Are you ready to step up and ask, pray, and send out healing energies at this dangerous moment in time.

The big question is what has taken you so long... ;)

Mass Tsunami's meant to wipe out the US that never hit... disappearing 7.2 quakes... 8.5's hitting as 5.8s...

Carmody would understand some of us are whitewater rafting with only a paddle to guide us through these dangerous timelines...

so much is happening at once, the equipment even caught a glimpse of a dejavu 7.2 on a replay... ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

I agree John...

Yes of course we've got to act...but at the moment it is an unfair dual...if we had all the resource the ptb have, they wouldn't stand a chance...

With a little bit of intervention it will tip the balance.. ;-)

viking

whistles innocently... ;)


The National Weather Service said it had received a report of a tornado near Melvin, Alabama, that may have caused damage to the Hunt Oil Refinery... cnn (http://us.cnn.com/2011/US/04/15/severe.weather/)

[myrm]

Look at these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJcPrDTPNWk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3159pcBnygA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt5RpgDkdoc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_pRTRl4Kdk&feature=related

[Wiremu2011]

I cant understand why we give this guy so much time and space on here. Since his Oct 4 rant about the end of the world and his thousands of Ninja's expose', he's just smelt a rat of insignificance since.. but then who the hell am I to judge! It's all just a ride isn't it?

[loveandgratitude]

Fiinally, The Bold Truth Comes Forth!

My heart and sympathy goes out to all the Japanese people, to this tragic story, for the pain and suffering inflicted upon them by the NWO. Everything these gentlemen discuss is what anyone who has done their homework knows. To see all this happening right in front of our very eyes, is heartbreaking.

We know who’s really behind the Shadow Government, the New World Order, or the Global Union.
They’re all one and the same.
We not only know which secret organizations are in control, we now know the names of the two men at the very top.

An old saying -
"For every 1,000 hacking at the branches of evil, one hacks at the root.”

Benjamin Fulford is hacking at the root.

For the people of Japan I now pray for your protection -

"Spirit - Please bless the Japanese people in their great time of trial and please send forth help, services and food and water to supply them until they can rebound. This was a great tragedy, and we ask that you send your guidance, strength and deliverance upon the families that lost loved one's during this time of trouble, and we want to thank you for your mercy and compassion, granting them peace and safety from here on out!
Thank-youDivine Spirit, for we know this is your will!"

The Japanese people are famous for their heroic stoicism and perseverance. I'm sure the Japanese people will find ways to overcome these tragedies.

AS FOR THE NWO - let us say -

"So do not be afraid of them.
There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed,
or hidden that will not be made known.

What I tell you in the dark,
speak in the daylight;
what is whispered in your ear,
proclaim from the roofs."
St. Matthew, 10-26 & 27

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

What do you guys think about this? I have found all of Fulford's latest videos compelling and I find the idea that there is a secret society fighting for the people exciting. I've alwayse been aware that secret societies existed that were fighting against the people, but the idea that there is one (or a few) fighting for the people is a new revelation for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=938kX74c-So

[sandy]

What do you guys think about this? I have found all of Fulford's latest videos compelling and I find the idea that there is a secret society fighting for the people exciting. I've alwayse been aware that secret societies existed that were fighting against the people, but the idea that there is one (or a few) fighting for the people is a new revelation for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=938kX74c-So

Thank you for posting this :)

No matter others opinions of Ben he's got a heart, I feel him, I support him and his humanity show's and touches me deeply.

[dmarie]

What do you guys think about this? I have found all of Fulford's latest videos compelling and I find the idea that there is a secret society fighting for the people exciting.

Do you have the link to the video where he talks about a secret society who is fighting for the people?

Thank you.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

I'm glad it's not just me. I think he is doing his best to speak the truth and he is telling us what he honestly believes is happening. Basically I don't believe he is disinfoing people and if he is, I don't think he is doing it on purpose. Just my opinion.

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[QUOTE=AlternativeInfoJunkie;200857]What do you guys think about this? I have found all of Fulford's latest videos compelling and I find the idea that there is a secret society fighting for the people exciting.

Do you have the link to the video where he talks about a secret society who is fighting for the people?

Thank you.

There is this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvpszTkh4hc

Also the project camelot interview with him from like 2008 or so talks a lot about it.

The White Dragon Society is the group I was referring to. I really recommend the Project Camelot interview if you want to know more about it. It goes into how he was aproached by the group and what actions they've taken.

[Chrononaut]

For the ones who have doubts on Benjamin Fulford, the link below can show you the warnings of Benjamin Fulford with reverse speech technologies.

http://www.reversespeech.com/fulford.htm

Best regards,

Chrononaut.

[Rainbow44]

The reverse speech was really interesting. I've always wondered how the mind views our world predicament or what it is really communicating.

Benjamin Fulford has been fighting the Illuminati for some time.........let us hope he continues as well as his group.
We need all the help we can get and the time for us to stand up and make ourselves known is now.
Even if we are the last group standing it would be nice if Benjamin Fulford was by our side.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

The reverse speech was really interesting. I've always wondered how the mind views our world predicament or what it is really communicating.

Benjamin Fulford has been fighting the Illuminati for some time.........let us hope he continues as well as his group.
We need all the help we can get and the time for us to stand up and make ourselves known is now.
Even if we are the last group standing it would be nice if Benjamin Fulford was by our side.

Couldn't agree more. Well said.

[ghostrider]

he is one man who has the planet's best interest at heart. I feel his passion when he speaks. thanks ben, God bless Japan.

[Calz]

Alrighty then ... let others start threads with fulford updates after getting beaten into submission (... *NOT*).

Appears this one is going under the radar so here it is. The full (subscription version) is much more detailed but after getting taken to the cleaners for posting those (as well) I won't post it.

Perhaps I am a glutton for punishment ... so here I am again in the crosshairs:

04/26/2011

Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis20110425:

In end game indicator, Federal Reserve Board selling Dinars and paper dollars in Japan to pay US embassy bills


In a sign the Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate is on its last legs, the US Embassy in Tokyo, Japan is selling Iraqi Dinars and US dollar cash bills via yakuza gangs in order to pay its bills, according to yakuza sources. The bills are being sold via corrupt officials in the Tokyo public prosecutors’ office who are then selling them to yakuza gangsters in exchange for Japanese yen, the sources say. One Iraqi Dinar was worth $3.8 before the US invaded but fell to 2 cents afterwards at which point the Feds bought them all up, according to MI6 sources.

[sunnyrap]

Thanx for the chuckles, C_A! No higher calling than to call for a little levity...

[Eric J (Viking)]

http://benjaminfulford.net/
New Madrid fault line attack underway, 15 nuclear reactors targeted
Posted by benjamin
May 10, 2011

The “once in 500 year” flooding of the Mississippi river over the New Madrid fault line is part of a campaign directed against the American people, according to multiple intelligence agency (MI6, CIA, FSB, Japan Security police) sources. The HAARP caused flooding is expected to be followed by an earthquake and then a “nuclear emergency” involving the 15 nuclear reactors located in the region. This will be a pretext for mass evacuations into FEMA camps, the sources say. The best way to derail this plan, apart from arresting the criminal cabal in Washington D.C., is to widely announce and denounce these plans in advance.

[ Deleted copyright material. -Paul. ]

~~~~~~~~

viking

[davyj0nes]

it sounds like a hallelujah is in order. i believe i will continue with my wait and see approach. One thing that i did find interesting in the report was the mention of asset backed currencies. I wonder how that will work out, I would imagine the United States has the most assets out of any nation, but what kind of assets are going to be used to back a currency? who will be valuing the assets?

[grannyfranny100]

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I assume that Vjking is a subscriber, too. It is one thing to summarize Ben's materials but I feel publishing the entire article is a violation of the copyrights which are clearly posted. So where is your written permission to violate the copyright?

[Davidallany]

World peace, an end to poverty, an end to environmental destruction and the release of new technologies will follow shortly after the announcement of a new financial system. A long predicted golden age is about to begin.
You call a new financial system a good news?

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Thank you, Viking for this post and update. Ben Fulford needs all the help and credibility he can get at this time. Under the circumstances his whole life is at risk and the world awaits his announcements.

This is no longer a matter of his old columns that had subscribers. He's stepped onto the world stage in a very big way, and people are watching him closely. There are many sources where this material is available.

What he is saying is of interest to every citizen in the world. Petty copyright issues are no longer valid at least in this case. He would thank Viking. So should we and I do. Fulford hardly needs anyone's assistance regarding copyright issues, he does stand in need of a bodyguard about now.

About a new financial system: Can anyone possibly have failed to notice the complete disgrace and futility of our current fiat money system? Well, it's dust! A new system arises now. There is literally nothing on which the old one can be propped up any longer. How and under whose control the new one will be is anyone's guess. We will be under new leadership soon, when all the games are exposed and end.

One thing for sure is that the old guard is out. There is no contest ~ trading chickens would work better than this old corrupt fiat system. It's done nothing since it was installed in the dark of night but enslaved and tax us. A new one will arise. This is good enough for me. I hope it is rolled out real fast and I think it will be ~ it's been waiting in the wings for this old one to finally collapse. This can't happen fast enough. Cheers to all! With the new prosperity programs, our day of happiness will come forward now. No sovereignty is possible without financial fairness, equality, and freedom. And so it is..... xoxoxoxo

[truthseekerdan]

This message from David Wilcock posted here: http://benjaminfulford.net/2011/05/10/new-madrid-fault-line-attack-underway-15-nuclear-reactors-targeted/

"Hello Everyone,
I must admit that once again, a lot of the things Ben is hearing are echoed by what my own insiders are telling me.
I revealed my own ‘intel’ in a major new post regarding a possibly imminent Disclosure event here: http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/start-here/davids-blog/936-disclosurebinladen

I have to work hard to not pass along information that comes across as fear and doom. It does involve a great deal of discernment and an understanding of the significance of the influence I now have on how people think and feel about things in the world.
Bear in mind that these folks are CONSTANTLY trying to create mass doom and destruction on an epic scale. This has never changed.

For a really good history lesson in this, go back and read Peter David Beter’s website of insider reports from the 1970s: http://www.peterdavidbeter.com. I described how this applies to the Rothschild and Rockefeller factions, as well as a third Christian group opposing them in Russia called the “New Kremlin,” in my own epic Ebook, Disclosure Endgame:
http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/start-here/davids-blog/521-disclosure-endgame

What you realize is that these negative factions are constantly working an angle that would create anarchy, chaos, martial law, you name it. Groups like the New Kremlin have been using similar secrecy and tradecraft, for well over 200 years now, to oppose them.
The negative groups have STILL not realized that they are only able to do what they are ALLOWED to do.

In order to answer the question of “who allows them,” it is ultimately necessary to break through into at least some minimum grade of understanding regarding the fact that Earth is a laboratory for spiritual growth.

Beings with capabilities far vaster than any ETs we might normally think of are making sure that we are never offered more on Earth than what we are creating. In that sense the world becomes a perfect mirror for our own collective disharmony.
It certainly appears as if everything you’re seeing, hearing and reading about is a story that is “out there,” and has no direct significance to your own life. This is the illusion.
The reality is that the world is offering us precisely what we need to be awakened — on a mass, worldwide level. You can dislike the process, but we’re not at a level where we have any direct say in whether it works this way.

That means the greater objective is to understand the process, and understand that you, right now, reading this, have far more control over the outcome than you may have ever realized.
The real battle that is being fought is for how you think and feel each day. Not about which faction gets to win control of the financial system. Not about whether Disclosure happens (and I do believe it will.)

Once you understand this, you can become an active participant in the solution. It doesn’t require you to subscribe to anything, pay any money or even leave the house. All it requires is a positive attitude — to have love be the primary force that runs through your thoughts, emotions and actions.

That is the real challenge we are being offered. That is the gift of life on Earth at this time. To see love where others can only see hate.
Without an understanding of the real nature of the game here on Earth, the fear-oriented propaganda that is being released can seem utterly overwhelming.

I’ve been online since 1995, and from the very first day I’ve been reading people freaking out, saying that Martial Law was imminent, that we were all about to be rounded up into FEMA camps, that the US Dollar was about to collapse, that there were about to be massive earth changes that would wipe us all out, that World War III was about to begin, et cetera et cetera.
It’s helpful for ‘newbies’ to be reminded of the fact that all these terrifying things have been sitting around on the store shelves, ready and waiting for you to buy them, this entire time.
If you were into Peter David Beter in the 70s and early 80s it was the same deal. Same with other insiders such as Sherman Skolnick in the 80s and 90s, the early, mid and late-90s Art Bell show, Alex Jones, et cetera.

After personally experiencing 16 years of reading this kind of ‘alarmist’ stuff, and never seeing the worst of it come to pass (9/11 being a notable exception, six years after I started watching all of this), I now realize that they can plan whatever they want, but nothing will be allowed to materialize beyond whatever we have invited.

I cannot change the fact that the Japan quake happened. What I can do is tell you that Ben is absolutely correct, in that the same people who planned and executed this quake want to do the same thing in the US. I do not feel the US would handle themselves as exemplary as the Japanese did in the aftermath of such a crisis.

The size and scope of what they are hoping to accomplish with this New Madrid quake is significantly larger and more damaging than what was done in Japan. And for that same reason, I strongly doubt it will produce the results they are seeking. Again, I urge you to realize that you can hate all you want, but you are voting for disasters to occur if you stay in this state of consciousness.

This is final exams time. It is critical that each of us move into a state of loving kindness, as best we are able in our own humble ways, in order to ensure the safety and security of this planet.
My new book The Source Field Investigations will provide the long-awaited, hard scientific proof that this is how it really works. I wish I could get it out there sooner than August 18th, but I cannot.

I can tell you now that this is one of the main points in there, and that it CAN be proven. Natural disasters, including massive earthquakes, can be and ARE BEING dramatically affected by our state of consciousness. Ultimately this is due to the fact that these disasters are caused by a rotational ’spin’ that is worked into the gravitational field. Gravity pushes the air, the water and the liquid mantle under the crust around in circuits.

When those circuits flow the way they are supposed to — which is provably occurring in geometric “flow” patterns — the Earth is healthy. Human consciousness can either enhance this flow or restrict it. Our brain waves actually merge with the flow and either smooth it out or create static that disrupts it.

When we are in a state of loving kindness and peace, we get smooth brainwaves. Those brainwaves in turn strengthen the spin field in gravity and the Earth is made healthy.
When we are in a state of static and chaos, our brainwaves get very choppy and violent. This literally affects the spin of gravity and creates stress in the Earth.

When enough people create static and chaos, the spin fields cannot flow in a given area the way they should. This creates a pressure buildup in the surrounding area, because the current needs to go somewhere but now it is being stopped up. Earthquakes, volcanoes and natural disasters are the result.

It’s the Earth’s immune system — and in the aftermath of such a crisis, we have to pull together and support each other, and the quality of our conscious interaction with each other again improves. Health is restored — because ultimately the main reason why the Earth is here is for us.

Look. This is not a drill. This is how it really works. We need to use this ‘technology’ now, not later, to insure that this birthing process goes smoothly.
These insiders are trying to destroy the planet and get rid of what they call “surplus people” in the hopes of saving their bacon from imminent defeat. I do not believe they will succeed.
Again — please understand that we DO have the power to control the outcome. We are NOT helpless. If you read something like what Ben just wrote and it terrifies you, TAKE THE POWER BACK.

Understand that we live in a holographic universe. Understand that reality is composed of intelligent energy — One Mind — that is loving in nature.

Everything we see, feel, think and do is either moving us towards Unity — towards our own Identity — or towards separation — further entrenching the forces of the Ego.
This ego is a false self. It seems paradoxical, because it is also the identity you have known and lived with most of your life. However, it can give way to a part of you that is much more aligned with your own internal guidance system, where you no longer need to blow in the winds of fear and be tossed and turned by each new drama, each new destabilizing, de-cohering event in your own life and in the world.

There is no point in discussing government corruption, earth changes and the possibility of a better world if we don’t fundamentally address the deepest mystery. This is a holographic universe, and we are never offered more than what we create.
There is no doubt in my mind that if every person who reads these words actually makes a deliberate effort to create coherent consciousness in their own minds and hearts, and to visualize the stress leaving the center of the US, that we have enough ‘numbers’ to stop this from happening.

I’m sure a number of people are too cynical, too sarcastic, too war-hardened from ‘fear porn’ to actually do this. They’ll read these words, say “that sounds nice,” but then not do it.
I’m asking you to DO IT. This is the final exam. The negatives have very little time left and this is their endgame maneuver. We need to stop them. You can help.

Not only are you helping the planet, you are breaking down cycles of negative karma in your own life that will ultimately make you much happier and more fulfilled.
Thank you for your help. I’m not the only one asking — this is a humble request from the people who are assisting this planet in its evolution from outside the matrix of our physical reality.
- David Wilcock

[This will be my next website post as well -- but feel free to distribute it if you feel it is useful to you.]"

[firstlook]

World peace, an end to poverty, an end to environmental destruction and the release of new technologies will follow shortly after the announcement of a new financial system. A long predicted golden age is about to begin.
You call a new financial system a good news?

depends on the system.

[Carmody]

"I can tell you now that this is one of the main points in there, and that it CAN be proven. Natural disasters, including massive earthquakes, can be and ARE BEING dramatically affected by our state of consciousness. Ultimately this is due to the fact that these disasters are caused by a rotational ’spin’ that is worked into the gravitational field. Gravity pushes the air, the water and the liquid mantle under the crust around in circuits.

When those circuits flow the way they are supposed to — which is provably occurring in geometric “flow” patterns — the Earth is healthy. Human consciousness can either enhance this flow or restrict it. Our brain waves actually merge with the flow and either smooth it out or create static that disrupts it."


http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2070438,00.html

Temporal inertial dimensional frame dragging. I explained this specifically as seen under the influence of salvia and I also explained this over and over again in the past decade, in various ways, including on this forum.

[Calz]

"I can tell you now that this is one of the main points in there, and that it CAN be proven. Natural disasters, including massive earthquakes, can be and ARE BEING dramatically affected by our state of consciousness. Ultimately this is due to the fact that these disasters are caused by a rotational ’spin’ that is worked into the gravitational field. Gravity pushes the air, the water and the liquid mantle under the crust around in circuits.

When those circuits flow the way they are supposed to — which is provably occurring in geometric “flow” patterns — the Earth is healthy. Human consciousness can either enhance this flow or restrict it. Our brain waves actually merge with the flow and either smooth it out or create static that disrupts it."


http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2070438,00.html

Temporal inertial dimensional frame dragging. I explained this specifically as seen under the influence of salvia and I also explained this over and over again in the past decade, in various ways, including on this forum.

I heard an interesting "theory" much the same which suggested that our human state of consciousness has an effect on the sun and sunspot activity (which, in turn of course, has the same natural effects upon our planet as you list).

Would you concur with that?

[Carmody]

Yes, I am 'sun powered'. Whenever we have large sunspot activity that increases the planet activities, I get HUGE gobs of energy from it. Migraines, etc. When you think of what happens in my case think the aetherial version of the idea of bursting from your body into something much larger and for lack of a better word, in flight or winged. I end up being not transitory or as a form of memory of a vision, but no interruption in consciousness from one state to the other.

I cannot tell you what it feels like to be free of the bodily influences. It is change in self and being that is, well, most of you would probably not want to get back into that dang 'body thing' that is lying there in a given bed or whatnot. :p

The loss of the pressures and tensions is wondrous, in a way that is impossible to describe until you encounter it.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Thanks for your concern Granny...I am sure Benjamin wouldn't be bothered about my posting, on the contrary he would like the message to get out to as many as possible.

In my opinion information like this should be free anyway...as long as it is 'truth' !

When our brothers and sisters finally introduce themselves and give us all types of information with regard to technology our past true history ect, do you think they will have some sort of pay per view format? mmmm!! Of course not Granny. We need to start looking at things in a different way and a new perspective.

viking

[HaveBlue]

Thanks for posting viking. \m/ I too would like to follow Bens stuff but am not a subscriber.
There is never any shortage of people who are always minding everybody elses business, except their own of course. They are the 'police' of everyone. Their own back yard must be spotless! go the pirate party.

[loveandgratitude]

we love ben......go ben.......sending love, strength and light your way.

Thank you for your words of hope.

7383

[HURRITT ENYETO]

"I can tell you now that this is one of the main points in there, and that it CAN be proven. Natural disasters, including massive earthquakes, can be and ARE BEING dramatically affected by our state of consciousness. Ultimately this is due to the fact that these disasters are caused by a rotational ’spin’ that is worked into the gravitational field. Gravity pushes the air, the water and the liquid mantle under the crust around in circuits.

When those circuits flow the way they are supposed to — which is provably occurring in geometric “flow” patterns — the Earth is healthy. Human consciousness can either enhance this flow or restrict it. Our brain waves actually merge with the flow and either smooth it out or create static that disrupts it."


http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2070438,00.html

Temporal inertial dimensional frame dragging. I explained this specifically as seen under the influence of salvia and I also explained this over and over again in the past decade, in various ways, including on this forum.

Thanks Carmody,
So presumably TPTB would know all about this and have their own 'tech' to influence these fluidized movements?
As well as HAARP etc.

Cheers
Hurritt

[Flash]

"I can tell you now that this is one of the main points in there, and that it CAN be proven. Natural disasters, including massive earthquakes, can be and ARE BEING dramatically affected by our state of consciousness. Ultimately this is due to the fact that these disasters are caused by a rotational ’spin’ that is worked into the gravitational field. Gravity pushes the air, the water and the liquid mantle under the crust around in circuits.

When those circuits flow the way they are supposed to — which is provably occurring in geometric “flow” patterns — the Earth is healthy. Human consciousness can either enhance this flow or restrict it. Our brain waves actually merge with the flow and either smooth it out or create static that disrupts it."


http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2070438,00.html

Temporal inertial dimensional frame dragging. I explained this specifically as seen under the influence of salvia and I also explained this over and over again in the past decade, in various ways, including on this forum.

This is precisely why we must center our thoughts in our hearts, make the heart take the decisions, lets love go through our hearts and helps us, the earth, the sun. We are the creators. Most people being brainwashed are often thinking negatively, but if they center in the heart, cease the thinking that is not working and live through the heart, they can achieve positive outcome. And this, most people can do it, they can live through the heart if they decide to. And it is relatively easy to understand for everyone. The heart has an immense impact on our brain, our thinking. The heart is very magnetic. When the heart is balanced, the brain follows and the behavior ensue. Open your hearts.

No need to be "spiritually awaken" (even though this is a natural development), just the plain need to look and behave within the heart will do. This is the short cut to take. imho. Spiritual training is long and ardeous, heart coherence is the short cut to help humanity and the planet.

This is why my message here is constant. Live through the heart, it is urgent. Then freedom will come.

[grannyfranny100]

Thank you Viking and Darla. For those who truly value Ben's latest post and are new to his work, here is the registration page: https://benjaminfulford.net/register/ It costs $8/mo via paypal. Even if you can only afford a one month subscription, please support this daring man and his efforts on behalf of humankind. This is a rare source of information from an Asian perspective written in English for the western world. Fill his rice bowl with plenty; it will only cost you one trip to Starbucks. Please share as he shares with us. Thank you.

[Mike Gorman]

World peace, an end to poverty, an end to environmental destruction and the release of new technologies will follow shortly after the announcement of a new financial system. A long predicted golden age is about to begin.
You call a new financial system a good news?
Amen to that.. this is just more of the same madness and tyranny with a more assured power-base for the wealthy 'elite' owners of assets...

[SEAM]

Re: 500 year flood...

"Mother Earth" told me She was just repaying those that tried to nearly destroy Her little gulf waters last summer, with the oil spill, by throwing the winds and moisture of the Gulf into Her jet stream to manifest the rains that created the Floods.
"You can't..wait... Don't fool with Mother"...

If you disbelieve... simply take your shoes off.. go outside, and stand on Her, and with Her, and ask Her yourself... She just wanted you to see and feel Her tears.

[Fred259]

Thank you Viking and Darla. For those who truly value Ben's latest post and are new to his work, here is the registration page: https://benjaminfulford.net/register/ It costs $8/mo via paypal. Even if you can only afford a one month subscription, please support this daring man and his efforts on behalf of humankind. This is a rare source of information from an Asian perspective written in English for the western world. Fill his rice bowl with plenty; it will only cost you one trip to Starbucks. Please share as he shares with us. Thank you.

Hi Grannyfranny, Girls seriously this has to stop….

I was reading this thread this morning and laughing. Laughing at you, seriously what’s to be gained by telling lies?

Please stop believing all this.

I’m seriously upset now, please don’t send Benjamin Fulford money. Please don’t.

Fulford doesn't know about HAARP. He’s just pretending he does, and now It’s getting out of hand if he is asking for subscriptions and tricking you into sending money. Please don’t do this, if you want to make a donation why not Avalon instead?

HAARP is a highly classified military project. Honestly Grannyfranny Fulford knows fannyadams about HAARP!

The storms in the mid west and the flooding are caused by the nature and the weather. It’s no different from pervious years, remember its nature no two years are the same.

If you study a weather chart the temperature is high, the dew point is high and the relative humidity is high so just as in previous years it’s going to cause mass instability and severe weather leading to heavy rainfall. It’s nature. It’s not HAARP.

I was watching a video from one of those back bedroom guys who post up on you tube. You know the type, the “Good morning you tube” brigade…. followed by a five minute of complete ***. Please stop believing these people; they really don’t know what they are talking about.

I watched this guy describe how storms blowing through the mid west were caused by HAARP. It’s rubbish they are just weather fronts. The radar picture he had up on the screen was painting in red, yellow and green. Other areas were clear which he said were HAARP attacks. It’s absolute rubbish and grossly irresponsible. It’s just the way the cathode ray tube works, by inverting the incoming radar signal to differentiate between severe moisture (red) and less severe (green) moisture held in suspension in the atmosphere or clouds.

This troubles me, and so what I’m going to do is post this up and then report my own post with the mods. Im asking the mods if they can grab hold of Bill for a moment and see if he will post up a couple of sentences on what is going on here. In the meantime please don’t send money to Fulford, lets see what Bill says about all this, before you decide how you want to splash the cash…

PS. Bill probably won’t say anything about money; it’s me who’s suggesting Avalon. Certainly not Fulford.

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

still waiting to hear what the 100,000 assassins are up to :)

PVM

[loveandgratitude]

still waiting to hear what the 100,000 assassins are up to :)

PVM

Funny - they emailed me this morning wanting to know your address? I sorted it out for you, I told them they must be meaning the Negative Vibe Merchant instead. Yes , it was a computer glitch. Lucky for you.

7391

[HaveBlue]

Assumption is NOT proof. There is circumstantial evidence and sometimes one hell of a lot of it. If it is you presenting it to 'them' it is hearsay. If it is 'them' prosecuting you and that is what their case is based on it is called 'the balance of probabilities' and you go down.

HAARP attacks and all the other technologies they have ,microwave etc... cannot be proved by us. It would take a very credible whistleblower and a straight judge to convict.
Mimicing nature would be very hard to prove unless there is clear proven scientific argument put on the table. even then 'they' will choose to interpret the evidence however they see fit.

There was a time many years ago that I thought I wanted to be a lawyer. After 6 mths of law school I saw that truth had very little to do with anything. All denied by them of course but it was clear to me that it was all about acting and theatrics, word useage and uppity gits trying to impress eachother and themselves with their pompous silly wigs and gowns and use of english.

So I became interested in 'natural' justice and still are to this day. Nature is way more interesting too.
Ben Fulford gets a hard time from a lot of people that haven't thought it through. He is only reporting what he gets told. If he hets disinfo'd then I am not the type that 'shoots the messanger'.

The world should be run by engineers. They think things through from start to finish. They consider things from all angles and look for better ways to do it.
They are only interested in producing tangible results. Ego, fame, vanity and bossing others about just aren't part of the equation. They understand teamwork, focus and all the things that are needed to produce the goods. Every mod/con we have we have engineers to thank for them, not politicians-they just put the taxes and tarriffs on other peoples efforts, never do they ever produce anything themselves.

So why are there so few engineers that go into politics? (they are too smart) It is mostly lawyers. Gerald Celente says it best when he says 'politics is show business for ugly people'.

Honest reporters such as Gerald, Ben, Bill and Kerry get my respect. They do not always get it right but they believe what they are saying at the time they say it. That is important. they do not set out to decieve. unlike alot of mainstream media who lie through their teeth to the camera. Whether they like doing it or not is besides the point. David Icke was one of them and he took years of crap and look at him now. Widely respected by a growing number of intelligent people.

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

still waiting to hear what the 100,000 assassins are up to :)

PVM

Funny - they emailed me this morning wanting to know your address? I sorted it out for you, I told them they must be meaning the Negative Vibe Merchant instead. Yes , it was a computer glitch. Lucky for you.

7391

Phew...
Thanks for that.
That Negative Viber Merchant always gettting into my business.
:)

PVM

[jackovesk]

The bomb was then placed in a hole drilled 10 kilometers into the seabed off the coast of Japan where it was exploded, thus triggering the earthquake and tsunami. viking

Forget about the rest of us 'MOTHER EARTH' has their Number, whether in this lifetime or the next they will be Punished for ALL of their COWARDLY ACTS!

Don't mess with 'MOTHER EARTH'...Period!

[Eric J (Viking)]

Thanks for your concern Fred ... not bothered at folk laughing...lol...I get laughed at in reality which is a different kettle of fish, so to speak. I walk the talk and get slatted and ridiculed all the time...here, this is a walk in the park.

No one here knows the whole truth do they?? We are all here trying to piece the jigsaw together...hey perhaps one day we can sit at the galactic bar and compare notes as to what was what!! ha ha if your truth was more than mine then I'll treat you, and vise versa...;)

Anyway, Darla thanks for the latest...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCrbNm0A4mQ&feature=youtu.be

viking

[Fred259]

Hi Viking,

I understand that, but really now it’s just getting plain silly .

Serious issues exist in Japan and I’m glad to see at least Astrid is keeping an eye on matter for the forum…that’s what’s important, Fulford and this latest report is like something out of an Ian Fleming novel.

It belongs in Hollywood folks…don’t worry andIMHO don’t send your hard earned money to Fulford

Ive got some charts, I will try and get some time to post them up and we can discuss what’s going on …..

[Eric J (Viking)]

Cheers Fred ... 'truth is stranger than fiction' hey we'll see...

I would never pay for 'truths' in this way ... 'truth' should always be free.

I look forward to your charts...

viking

[Eric J (Viking)]

To those who wish to read the message in its entirety go to the link below as Paul has deleted the original post due to copyright.

http://indianinthemachine.wordpress.com/2011/05/10/benjamin-fulford-new-madrid-fault-line-attack-underway-15-nuclear-reactors-targeted/

Another here...
http://www.reenagagneja.com/benjamin-fulford2may-1

No worries Paul I know you are just doing your job as you see it.

viking

[loveandgratitude]

Thanks Viking for that interview from Ben. I have not had much time to keep up. What Ben said is true. All of it. Anyone in the know understands exactly what he is saying. TIme for big change on all levels. The battle is in full swing at the moment. Send loving protection to Ben, he need full support of the truth loving humans. The rest will go to hell with Kolvenbach/Satanist. Your time has come.

We need more strong men like Ben to stand up. Too many sleeping sheeple not enough awake and aware, and then there is the just plain stupid, unwilling to see the truth when it is right in front of them. Keep up the good work Viking. God bless you.

[Fred259]

Thanks Viking for that interview from Ben. I have not had much time to keep up. What Ben said is true. All of it. Anyone in the know understands exactly what he is saying. TIme for big change on all levels. The battle is in full swing at the moment. Send loving protection to Ben, he need full support of the truth loving humans. The rest will go to hell with Kolvenbach/Satanist. Your time has come.

We need more strong men like Ben to stand up. Too many sleeping sheeple not enough awake and aware, and then there is the just plain stupid, unwilling to see the truth when it is right in front of them. Keep up the good work Viking. God bless you.

What’s up Love & Gratitude? I take it I’m the Kolvenbach/ Satanist, since I'm expressing a different point of view from yours?

What happened to all the Integrity you were posting about? Was that for Bills consumption only? Here today gone tomorrow. Now your telling me to go to hell!. What about all the Love and Gratitude? Is it all just meaningless?

This is my Integrity.

According to your friend Benjamin Fulford the floods in the southern state are caused by HAARP. Quote from #1 “The HAARP caused flooding is expected to be followed by an earthquake”. Do you seriously believe that? How would he know? You are aware aren’t you that US airspace is monitored constantly, from as far afield as RAF Fylingdales, Yorkshire, England.

Fulford publishes this nonsense to scare you, and I show honesty with you by saying one moment folks, nothing is wrong, don’t fall for this rubbish and above all don’t send your hard earned money, and you respond by telling me to go to hell.

Not very ladylike if I may say so.

This is what’s happening.

A number of anticyclones, areas of high preassure dominate the eastern US seaboard at this time. The air blows clockwise around these highs. (Not in the southern hemisphere L&G anticlockwise with you)

Vast amounts of moist air is flowing clockwise up and over the southern states as far north as the great lakes. The ground temperatures is hot, and so massive convection and deep instability occurs causing towering thunderstorms and storm fronts with copious amounts of rain.

It’s a bit like throwing a tin of gasoline on the camp fire. It’s this deep instability in the weather patterns that’s causing the flooding in the Mississippi and its tributaries.

Fulford tells you this is HAARP, send $8.00 per month and I will tell you more lies. Lies that scare and deceive you.I suggest you don’t do this.

That's it.


7401
Valid 15.00 UTC Sat 14 May

Love & Gratitude, before I make my way to the gates of Hades, can you post back and tell me what I’m doing wrong in your opinion.

Am I showing Integrity by speaking up and sharing my knowledge and experience? Perhaps it would be better if I just shut up and watch these scoundrels continue to scare you and steal your money. Don’t you think that would be two faced and show a lack of integrity? What do you suggest.....

[loveandgratitude]

FRED.....calm down. You have read way toooo much into my statement. I was not referring to you personally. I do presume that you know the world is run by Satantists. You do know that dont you? You do know that their time is running out, fast? You do understand that they are going straight back to wherever they came from when they depart this planet. These demons are running the show. How many world leaders bow and kiss the hand of one the lead demons. Is this all news to you. Go on, say it is all conspiracy.

I do not see you as a Satantist. No Fred, you will not go to hell just because you cannot see the whole picture. This is not your fault. These demon are good at their job. Fooling the masses. I do not blame you for being fooled. I just hope that intelligent people like yourself could see through the crack into the other dimensions and see it for what it is. Sorry no offence intended to you, but all offence to the demons, even though I am working hard to forgive them for what they have done to this planet and to the good people of the earth.

Just keep researching and studying. First comes denial, then anger and then we are free. It is hard to believe that ourworld is controlled by demons but I have faith that good will prevail in the end. Only we need people to wake up, some will, some wont.

Sometimes the truth is too hard for some people and they choose to go back to sleep. That is a choice.

[loveandgratitude]

Thank you Astrid .....I have posted your video link here.

Fred....take note if you are watching.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQvcVWuRVpw&feature=player_embedded#at=157

[DNA]

http://benjaminfulford.net/
New Madrid fault line attack underway, 15 nuclear reactors targeted
Posted by benjamin
May 10, 2011

The “once in 500 year” flooding of the Mississippi river over the New Madrid fault line is part of a campaign directed against the American people, according to multiple intelligence agency (MI6, CIA, FSB, Japan Security police) sources. The HAARP caused flooding is expected to be followed by an earthquake and then a “nuclear emergency” involving the 15 nuclear reactors located in the region. This will be a pretext for mass evacuations into FEMA camps, the sources say. The best way to derail this plan, apart from arresting the criminal cabal in Washington D.C., is to widely announce and denounce these plans in advance.

[ Deleted copyright material. -Paul. ]

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viking

Wow,,,that is scary stuff Viking. Fullford is someone who you have to hear him out when he talks about this kind of stuff.
By the way,,,I love your Billy Meier world peace avatar. :)

[Carmody]

well, this did happen yesterday:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20552-Head-of-IMF-arrested-while-attempting-to-flee-from-charges-of-forced-oral-copulation

And that is the group of people that Ben is talking about 'going after'.

[loveandgratitude]

well, this did happen yesterday:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20552-Head-of-IMF-arrested-while-attempting-to-flee-from-charges-of-forced-oral-copulation

And that is the group of people that Ben is talking about 'going after'.

All I can say is this -

7409

[fifi]

At first, I was glad to hear that "I.M.F. Head Is Arrested and Accused of Sexual Attack", but after reading to the end of this article:
http://stevebeckow.com/2011/05/i-m-f-head-is-arrested/

I wonder if this is just a political manipulation to get rid of a potential presidential candidate.


Mr. Strauss-Kahn, a leading member of the party, has been considered the front-runner for the next presidential election in France in May 2012. Opinion polls have shown him to be the Socialists’ most popular candidate and running well ahead of the incumbent, Nicolas Sarkozy, who leads the center-right party.

France has been waiting for Mr. Strauss-Kahn to decide whether to run for his party’s nomination in a series of primaries, which would mean giving up his post as managing director of the fund.

The view in France was that if Mr. Strauss-Kahn wanted to run, he would have to make his intentions clear early this summer, and most politicians and analysts have been predicting that he would not be able to resist the chance to run the country.

Mr. Strauss-Kahn contested for the nomination five years ago, losing to Ségolène Royal, who ultimately lost a second-round runoff to Mr. Sarkozy. Mr. Sarkozy then arranged for Mr. Strauss-Kahn to get the I.M.F. job, partly to remove a popular rival from France’s political landscape.

[Flash]

And this happened today


Re: White House talks about 9.0 magnitude Earthquake in the USA

POSTED BY Jacovest post 18

" Originally Posted by astrid
http://theintelhub.com/2011/05/14/u-...happening-now/

Yes.. i have been thinking a lot about that map.

I did a big search on it a while back to find out whether it was authentic or not,

and came up still unsure.

But for sure its a concern given what's going on.
US Army Engineers have Opened Up a Floodgate along the Mississippi River Diverting Water into the Countryside!"



US army engineers have opened up a major floodgate along the rising Mississippi River in Louisiana, diverting water into the countryside in bid to avoid a potentially bigger disaster in heavily populated areas downstream.

A gate at the Morganza spillway was raised on Saturday for the first time in 38 years. The water came out slowly at first, then began gushing like a waterfall.

About 7770 square kilometres of land known for small farms could wind up under as much as 7.5 metres of water.

However, officials say the move will ease pressure on levees protecting New Orleans, Baton Rouge, and oil refineries and chemical plants downstream.

The river, currently cresting upstream in Arkansas, is set to eclipse the high water records set in the epochal floods of 1927.

Near its height, the Mississippi town of Vicksburg is expecting a forecast 17.5-metre crest on May 19, topping the 17.13-metre historic crest set 84 years ago this month, according to data from the National Weather Service.

But opening the spillway has prompted warnings of flash floods from forecasters and urgent evacuation orders from state houses in Louisiana and Mississippi.

The worst floods to hit the central United States in more than 70 years have already swallowed up thousands of homes, farms and roads in Illinois, Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee and Mississippi.

Heavy rains last month filled rivers and creeks already swollen from the melting of a thick winter snow pack, and which are now backing up because the Mississippi is so full.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1226056087322

[Billy]

What do you think of Ben's latest comments Guys. source kauilapele's Blog.
http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/08/08/ben-fulford-august-9-2011-the-phoenix-will-arise-from-the-ashes-of-the-old-world-order/

QUOTE:

“This is one of those rare moments in history where the actions of a few horsemen, and their mates, determines history for thousands of years. The horsemen in question are dealing with bonds and financial instruments issued by empires and governments and yet controlled by a few individuals.

“The result of this debate will mean a change of the public story, or His Story (and Her Story). The people in charge of the plot, the people who wrote the story of 911, the invasion of Iraq, the “war on terrorism” etc, are being replaced.

“This is one of those moments in mass psychology where the herd of sheep decides to change direction; only in this case we are dealing with the herd of human sheep and the direction of the planet earth.”

HIGHLIGHTS:

* For Standard & Poors to downgrade US debt… is a public admission of defeat.
* The full consequences of this change will continue to unfold for months and years to come until a new age in the history of the planet begins. There is no going back now.
* They [the cabal] are being offered a chance to keep their wealth and privileges in exchange for freeing their subjects. The wise and powerful amongst them have already agreed.
* Over the next several weeks and months, we will witness the continuing collapse of the criminal cabal that has ruled the planet.
* At a certain point, when the elite that currently rules the planet realizes they are about to be hung from the nearest lamp-pole, they will cast aside their arrogance and ask for help. When that happens, the White Dragon Society will be ready to step in.
* …in the coming weeks a series of high-level meetings have been arranged, and have already begun… what used to be dismissed as conspiracy theory will simply be seen as yesterday’s news… Please be patient though.


Ben Fulford, August 9, 2011

For Standard & Poors to downgrade US debt from the highest level of AAA like the Japanese emperor admitting that World War 2 is not going exactly according to plan. It is a public admission of defeat. The aware humans of the planet have long known the US is bankrupt, but now the spokespersons for the ruling cabal are admitting this in public. This is one of those geopolitical turning points that historians will be discussing for generations to come. The full consequences of this change will continue to unfold for months and years to come until a new age in the history of the planet begins. There is no going back now.

Let us examine what is about to end and why nobody will miss it. A cabal of gangsters has used murder and bribery and war to force its’ will on the humans of the planet for at least 300 years. They were planning to murder 5 billion or so human beings in order to maintain their rule in the face of an awakening slave populace. Instead, they are being told to step aside peacefully before they and their entire extended families are killed. They are being offered a chance to keep their wealth and privileges in exchange for freeing their subjects. The wise and powerful amongst them have already agreed. The problem is now one of implementation.

This is one of those rare moments in history where the actions of a few horsemen, and their mates, determines history for thousands of years. The horsemen in question are dealing with bonds and financial instruments issued by empires and governments and yet controlled by a few individuals.

One case in point is the two Japanese gentlemen illegally detained in Italy in June of 2009, carrying $134.5 billion worth of bonds. The debate over who has the right to cash these bonds, and trillions of dollars worth of similar bonds, is one the one side a technical debate about arcane financial instruments, on a different level it is a debate about the future of the planet earth.

The result of this debate will mean a change of the public story, or His Story (and Her Story). The people in charge of the plot, the people who wrote the story of 911, the invasion of Iraq, the “war on terrorism” etc, are being replaced.

This is one of those moments in mass psychology where the herd of sheep decides to change direction; only in this case were [we] are dealing with the herd of human sheep and the direction of the planet earth.

Western Civilization was responsible for a paradigm shift in history. It created the industrial and scientific revolutions that enabled the birth of a transportation, communications and knowledge revolution unprecedented in the 5 billion year history of this planet. Unfortunately this revolution took place amidst a moral vacuum at the very top of the power structure. It is as if a three year old child had been given control over both a candy story [store] and a shotgun. He was able to use the shotgun to get all the candy he wanted but he had no idea what to do next. Whenever somebody tried to tell him too much candy was bad for him, he shot the person who said that.

In the same way, the so-called intellectual elite of the west was unable to win any of the moral or scientific debates about the direction of the planet and so they resorted to violence and bribery.

Over the next several weeks and months, we will witness the continuing collapse of the criminal cabal that has ruled the planet. They have resorted to violent temper tantrums such as the nuclear tsunami in Japan and the murder of the ruling party youth in Norway. They may try more violence and mayhem still before they are finally subdued.

On a more concrete level, an international consensus is emerging. The first agreement is that the current power brokers will cling on until their system fully collapses and they have no choice. This will be seen in newspaper headlines in the form of stock market and currency crises in the US and the Mediterranean. There will be meetings, announcements and interventions but these will be impotent at the end of the day.

At a certain point, when the elite that currently rules the planet realizes they are about to be hung from the nearest lamp-pole, they will cast aside their arrogance and ask for help.

When that happens, the White Dragon Society will be ready to step in. It will request a campaign to end poverty, stop environmental destruction, end war and free the suppressed technology. In exchange, it will promise the current ruling elite financial and physical security as well as a change to participate in the coming bonanza.

This all sounds very abstract but in the coming weeks a series of high-level meetings have been arranged, and have already begun. It will not be long before what used to be dismissed as conspiracy theory will simply be seen as yesterday’s news.

Please be patient though. Major historical changes must be handled with great care. Please be optimistic but also realistic.

[Maia Gabrial]

Great news to hear from Benjamin Fulford. All EXCEPT what sounds to me like the elites get to keep their stolen goods.... I think they've had enough "bonanza" already. Don't you?
Why do they need security? Are they afraid of the punishments they so richly deserved? Is that why? Where was OUR security when they were going hog-wild over us?
Other than these, I'm glad they're being taken down....

[Billy]

I sympathise Maia, and you are not alone in you're thoughts, I looked at the reply's on the site and this one from Hendry on the 8th caught my attention.
Quote:
Henry says:
August 8, 2011 at 14:22

These following two sentences don’t sit rationally side by side:
“….they are being told to step aside peacefully before they and their entire extended families are killed. They are being offered a chance to keep their wealth and privileges in exchange for freeing their subjects.”
The same absent logic is re-stated again:
“….when the elite that currently rules the planet realizes they are about to be hung from the nearest lamp-pole”………….”the White Dragon Society will be ready to step in”……………”it will promise the current ruling elite financial and physical security”…………
Centuries of evil wrong-doing to be rewarded by “keeping wealth and privileges” doesn’t exactly inspire confidence in the anticipated new global society, in which true universal human values of fairness and justice need to be embedded. The wealth in question has been “stolen” from the masses through “usury” within the corruptly designed and orchestrated mechanisms of banking and finance. Priviledge implies a differentiated status, above the majority, currently being imposed upon the populus but here being voluntarily offered to the perpetrators, in the new paradigm(!)
You have to ask, who’se calling the tune?
I hope this report is not an entirely accurate synopsis of what lies ahead.

And again later.
QUOTE:
Henry says:
August 8, 2011 at 15:02

Additional comment:
My objective (above) is not to make a case for retribution. I believe that humanities success in transforming the planet calls for all judgements to be made using love, magnanimity and forgiveness. Those “elite” who are willing to “step aside peacefully” can be invited to re-join the human race on equal terms. Surely, that should be the very best offer on the table. Let’s remember that criminals are required to show remorse for their crimes and not just do what it takes to “save their skin”.
END QUOTE:

Personally i look upon the Elites and their self confessed masters as the prodigal sons. They can keep their material glory, if that is what they choose, their loss, or if they choose to return home to the family, i embrace them with open arms.

[Snowbird]

Here we go again. They are better than and should be treated sparingly and should be allowed to keep all that they have stolen and never be found to have murdered and pillaged. They should never have to stand before an international court of law or a national court of law or any court of law anywhere. Why? Because that is for the little people and never for those whose crimes are so vastly immense and so grossly embedded in our global societies that our very thought patterns and actions and attitudes have been permanently altered by these.

Those who have been caught looting and rioting throughout the world, are now being held and most likely being abused. But the elite, whose crimes reach magnitudes beyond comprehension, are coddled and protected and allowed to keep what they have stolen.

How can we continue on this earth knowing that these people are among us? They will most likely be simply planning their next major adventure at the expense of those who pass them on the streets. They will continue to raise offspring who know nothing different that what has been embedded into them by their clans. Violence. Genocide. Murder. Grand theft. Conning. Suppression. Elitism. Do you want to continue to live among these?

Why aren't they removed from the earth and taken to a really nice planet and given basics so that they will not starve or go without and simply be removed from the midst of those who they have harmed and hurt for thousands of years. A planet, btw, where they will never be allowed to leave.

They have stained this Earth. Forever. There are only a minute percentage of these who are truly seeking clemency. There are even less, who are truly remorseful for what they have done. Most of these have demonstrated that they have no conscience. Why are they being offered protection? WE need protection from THEM!

[aranuk]

Here we go again. They are better than and should be treated sparingly and should be allowed to keep all that they have stolen and never be found to have murdered and pillaged. They should never have to stand before an international court of law or a national court of law or any court of law anywhere. Why? Because that is for the little people and never for those whose crimes are so vastly immense and so grossly embedded in our global societies that our very thought patterns and actions and attitudes have been permanently altered by these.

Those who have been caught looting and rioting throughout the world, are now being held and most likely being abused. But the elite, whose crimes reach magnitudes beyond comprehension, are coddled and protected and allowed to keep what they have stolen.

How can we continue on this earth knowing that these people are among us? They will most likely be simply planning their next major adventure at the expense of those who pass them on the streets. They will continue to raise offspring who know nothing different that what has been embedded into them by their clans. Violence. Genocide. Murder. Grand theft. Conning. Suppression. Elitism. Do you want to continue to live among these?

Why aren't they removed from the earth and taken to a really nice planet and given basics so that they will not starve or go without and simply be removed from the midst of those who they have harmed and hurt for thousands of years.

They have stained this Earth. Forever. There are only a minute percentage of these who are truly seeking clemency. There are even less, who are truly remorseful for what they have done. Most of these have demonstrated that they have no conscience. Why are they being offered protection? WE need protection from THEM!

Absolutely Snowbird! I agree with every single word you typed! Are they the ptb still negotiating good terms for themselves? Murderers that have only killed once in their lives have to face a sentence in prison. Why should these bastards who have murdered thousands of people have anymore privileges than a murderer? Their game is up. Period. No more privileges end of story.

Stan

[daledo]

One case in point is the two Japanese gentlemen illegally detained in Italy in June of 2009, carrying $134.5 billion worth of bonds. The debate over who has the right to cash these bonds, and trillions of dollars worth of similar bonds, is one the one side a technical debate about arcane financial instruments, on a different level it is a debate about the future of the planet earth.


It is obvious to anyone else that the elite that issued and had to pay up on these bonds would have an interest in keeping them out of circulation and back in their hands at all costs?

[Carmody]

You have to understand that you are dealing with something that is full of fear and based in a genetic foldback position of innate narcissism and low empathy.

The tact taken must have baser aspects in it, and there must be a door that offers something other than death. At the same time, the threat must be entirely real.

We are dealing with the aspects of the global ego, and this group represents the global ego and how hard it fights to hold it's position in the hierarchy of your life and in this case, position on and in this globe.

The way that a human being sublimates their ego is what goes on and what is going on at this elitist global level.

I'd like to tell them the next level that lies beyond that, but, alas it cannot be done. Their struggle is at this level ---and it must be an honest one.

I said one thing -once... when the whole Charles thing was going down. That they are moving from Karma - into consequence.

Knowledge, for some of them, has placed them there, in the realm of consequence. And that is a whole different matter.

[TWINCANS]

Agree with the 'should not be allowed to keep their ill-gotten gains comments. But alos who are this White Dragon Society? I certainly hope they do not aspirations of ruling the slaves, after they have 'saved' us.

Sorry, but this awakening is not about changing of the guard. It's about doing away with the guard completely.
We do not accept 'rulers' anymore.
So to the White Dragon Society, I say thanks but no thanks.
We'll look after things ourself just fine. By ourself.

[Carmody]

Great news to hear from Benjamin Fulford. All EXCEPT what sounds to me like the elites get to keep their stolen goods.... I think they've had enough "bonanza" already. Don't you?
Why do they need security? Are they afraid of the punishments they so richly deserved? Is that why? Where was OUR security when they were going hog-wild over us?
Other than these, I'm glad they're being taken down....

When this world and the technology that has been hidden comes forth, their 'wealth' --will mean nothing. So don't worry about it.

[sandy]

Great news to hear from Benjamin Fulford. All EXCEPT what sounds to me like the elites get to keep their stolen goods.... I think they've had enough "bonanza" already. Don't you?
Why do they need security? Are they afraid of the punishments they so richly deserved? Is that why? Where was OUR security when they were going hog-wild over us?
Other than these, I'm glad they're being taken down....

When this world and the technology that has been hidden comes forth, their 'wealth' --will mean nothing. So don't worry about it.

Thank you Camody,

That is where it is at because Free Energy will bring more abundance than we can imagine to each and everyone and greed, consumerism, hoarding etc will be seen as stupid!!!!

One more thing IMO is that there has to be a win/win situation in regaining our sovereignty as a civilization and planet. If we use old paradigm strategies then TPTB may decide there will be a fight to the finish>>>>>>>>>>>>this would be very ugly and may create mass destruction for Mother Earth and all her creatures and creations.

If what Fulford is saying is true then this is the time for humankind to leap forward and evolve to the energy of love. TPTB have been part of this evolutionary process as dark and destructive as it has been. It seems now that the pain is becoming to great for humanity to bare we are starting to stand up and say enough but what about our part for letting it happen and not standing up sooner. We play a part in all of this too.

Change is everywhere, will we take the direction to heal the planet or destroy her and insist that the fight is on as there is a piper to pay??

[loveandgratitude]

All of this information coincides with the Assencion information. I think ultimately that this is the carrot before the donkey. Once they have surrendered they will be brought before a Court of some sort. Interesting. In the end, the LAW OF KARMA will prevail. From this law there is no escape.

[Billy]

As long as TPTB and our world leaders are able to Lie and decieve there will never be peace or justice, I look forward to the day when humanity's telepathic skills return, Just imagine no one being able to Lie or decieve ever again. Then we can have peace on earth. Bring it on.

[Tane Mahuta]

Awesome post! Thankyou for sharing billyjii

TM

[Maia Gabrial]

I wholeheartedly agree with that they "be invited to re-join the human race on EQUAL TERMS...." And while there are so many people starving and homeless or suffering from diseases and illness created by their minions, they should not be allowed to keep their stolen wealth and status because it would mean they're still MORE than equal to us....
When I see that they really are stepping aside peacefully, I'll believe it. When I see all the crap in the world stop and begin to transform, I'll believe it. But the White Dragons deserve the praise for getting it all started....

[jackovesk]

Thanks Billyji,

Good to see another who is not afraid to post some good advice from Me Old Mate Ben...Its been along time between drinks on this forum...

The rewriting of His/Her story well versed by Mr Fulford...


“The result of this debate will mean a change of the public story, or His Story (and Her Story). The people in charge of the plot, the people who wrote the story of 911, the invasion of Iraq, the “war on terrorism” etc, are being replaced."


Reminded me of a Clip I saw today on Australian TV News...

Geezuz its exactly what Ben was trying to say regarding His/Her story coming out of the NWO Globalist CRIMINAL's mouth of none other than Hillary Rodham Clinton!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mkfxFPkf1Y

[Carmody]

of course, boycotting Syria's oil and gas sector causes demand to go up in ways that support the suppliers of other oil and gas.

Thus the oil/energy CFR/BOE/CIA/Rockefeller/FED/ETC crew, etc all benefit from this desire of theirs that she is proposing.

She can say this in good face in the west ....and damage China at the same time.

At the same these same people bomb the crap out of Libya and put 5 million people on the border of dehydration and death.

Note to Hillary: Your face, is quite two-sided..and wholly constructed of one steamy pile of manure there, woman.


The United States has for the first time called on countries to stop buying Syrian oil and gas as it seeks to build pressure on the country's president Bashar al-Assad to end a brutal crackdown against protesters.

The US secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, hinted that Washington might be making some headway in persuading European nations, China and India to curtail their energy ties with Syria, saying "stay tuned" when asked what progress had been made.

Clinton has said that the best way pressure Syria into stopping its crackdown on protesters calling for the end of the Assad regime was to boycott its oil and gas sector. This, however, would largely fall to other nations because there is little US involvement.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/12/hillary-clinton-countries-sanction-syria

[Maia Gabrial]

Hey Jackovesk,
Hill and Bill, both spoke with forked tongues....all in the family....

[Carmody]

As long as TPTB and our world leaders are able to Lie and decieve there will never be peace or justice, I look forward to the day when humanity's telepathic skills return, Just imagine no one being able to Lie or decieve ever again. Then we can have peace on earth. Bring it on.

When I was at my (albeit forced) psychic peak, there was no way you could lie to me. it's dang tough to do it now. The only reason I let anyone lie to me now, is to be able to watch, to Observe.

I know someone who is running at that level, and you can't lie to them, either.

They are everywhere, you just need to possess the desire to seek them out.

[WhiteFeather]

How is the elite/cabal running out of money, when they posess most of it?

[WhiteFeather]

Here we go again. They are better than and should be treated sparingly and should be allowed to keep all that they have stolen and never be found to have murdered and pillaged. They should never have to stand before an international court of law or a national court of law or any court of law anywhere. Why? Because that is for the little people and never for those whose crimes are so vastly immense and so grossly embedded in our global societies that our very thought patterns and actions and attitudes have been permanently altered by these.


Those who have been caught looting and rioting throughout the world, are now being held and most likely being abused. But the elite, whose crimes reach magnitudes beyond comprehension, are coddled and protected and allowed to keep what they have stolen.

How can we continue on this earth knowing that these people are among us? They will most likely be simply planning their next major adventure at the expense of those who pass them on the streets. They will continue to raise offspring who know nothing different that what has been embedded into them by their clans. Violence. Genocide. Murder. Grand theft. Conning. Suppression. Elitism. Do you want to continue to live among these?

Why aren't they removed from the earth and taken to a really nice planet and given basics so that they will not starve or go without and simply be removed from the midst of those who they have harmed and hurt for thousands of years. A planet, btw, where they will never be allowed to leave.

They have stained this Earth. Forever. There are only a minute percentage of these who are truly seeking clemency. There are even less, who are truly remorseful for what they have done. Most of these have demonstrated that they have no conscience. Why are they being offered protection? WE need protection from THEM!

5 Star Response on this thread Snowbird, My Gratitude. No one could have said this any better!

[Unified Serenity]

Fear not, we all account for our deeds and actions. We come here with nothing but our souls and we won't take anything with us but the lessons learned that have helped us to temper our souls in this life's furnace.

[WhiteFeather]

Great news to hear from Benjamin Fulford. All EXCEPT what sounds to me like the elites get to keep their stolen goods.... I think they've had enough "bonanza" already. Don't you?
Why do they need security? Are they afraid of the punishments they so richly deserved? Is that why? Where was OUR security when they were going hog-wild over us?
Other than these, I'm glad they're being taken down....


When this world and the technology that has been hidden comes forth, their 'wealth' --will mean nothing. So don't worry about it.

Totally Agree With You On That Statement Carmody.

[WhiteFeather]

Thanks Billyji,

Good to see another who is not afraid to post some good advice from Me Old Mate Ben...Its been along time between drinks on this forum...

The rewriting of His/Her story well versed by Mr Fulford...


“The result of this debate will mean a change of the public story, or His Story (and Her Story). The people in charge of the plot, the people who wrote the story of 911, the invasion of Iraq, the “war on terrorism” etc, are being replaced."


Reminded me of a Clip I saw today on Australian TV News...

Geezuz its exactly what Ben was trying to say regarding His/Her story coming out of the NWO Globalist CRIMINAL's mouth of none other than Hillary Rodham Clinton!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mkfxFPkf1Y

Hellery Clinton Should be arrested immediately with the rest of her corrupted croanies in This Corporation of The USA.

[dddanieljjjamesss]

Here we go again. They are better than and should be treated sparingly and should be allowed to keep all that they have stolen and never be found to have murdered and pillaged. They should never have to stand before an international court of law or a national court of law or any court of law anywhere. Why? Because that is for the little people and never for those whose crimes are so vastly immense and so grossly embedded in our global societies that our very thought patterns and actions and attitudes have been permanently altered by these.

Those who have been caught looting and rioting throughout the world, are now being held and most likely being abused. But the elite, whose crimes reach magnitudes beyond comprehension, are coddled and protected and allowed to keep what they have stolen.

How can we continue on this earth knowing that these people are among us? They will most likely be simply planning their next major adventure at the expense of those who pass them on the streets. They will continue to raise offspring who know nothing different that what has been embedded into them by their clans. Violence. Genocide. Murder. Grand theft. Conning. Suppression. Elitism. Do you want to continue to live among these?

Why aren't they removed from the earth and taken to a really nice planet and given basics so that they will not starve or go without and simply be removed from the midst of those who they have harmed and hurt for thousands of years. A planet, btw, where they will never be allowed to leave.

They have stained this Earth. Forever. There are only a minute percentage of these who are truly seeking clemency. There are even less, who are truly remorseful for what they have done. Most of these have demonstrated that they have no conscience. Why are they being offered protection? WE need protection from THEM!

(it's got to be all or none. compassion for all.)

I am He as you are He and you are Me and We Are All Together

and as we learn that our old values were empty
all their treasures and riches will be burdens that chain them

but all this is on the OTHER side of the fence... so get hoppin'

[Snowbird]

I looked, but could not find...a recent post concerning Ben Fulford and the White Dragon Society.

They have met and of course the controllers will never go out without a fight.

However, this article that BF wrote is very interesting and I really hope that both things happen that are included in this article. Keeping fingers crossed.

Interesting! :biggrin1:



Sarkozy and Soros send negotiator to visit White Dragon Society but talks inconclusive
Posted by benjamin
April 11, 2011

http://eclinik.wordpress.com/vital-issues/ben-fulford/sarkozy-and-soros-send-negotiator-to-visit-white-dragon-society-but-talks-inconclusive/

[TWINCANS]

I ask again: who are the White Dragon Society? Names please?

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

Ben has been banging on about the White dragons, who have 100,000 ninja assassins who will help carry out any issues.

Unfortunately for ben, he has been saying the same thing for a few years now, though nothing seems to come of it. having said that though, I have no idead whether they have or not. Maybe they have stopped certain deals go through or something, but at any rate, its kind of all grain of salt stuff when it comes to ben. nothing real to go on.

PVM

[TWINCANS]

Thanks for the reply. Thing is I hear the name of a group that have access to the highest (human) levels of the ptb. They supposedly hold the ptb to the fire. And we are supposed to believe that after the ptb are toppled, the White Dragon Society (whoever they are) will just hand the reins to the people and just fade away on their white chargers? Not likely. Likely they will want to run the show. If they're going to be our new slaveowners, that's why I keep asking their names.

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

I am with you on this one Twincams.

I am guessing that The White Dragon society is either the chinese ptb, or a spin off faction.

No doubt the weath is travelling east. Who knows in 12 months time once that has been acomplished Ben will come out saying "we won, and not 1 person had to die" ha ha

PVM

[TWINCANS]

Years ago I read that with the changing polarity on earth, the east and west would change place. I think it was the Seth material. Does anyone remember?
The East has been ruled by Inner, Spiritual, 'detachment from physical' urges for growth and expression.
The West by Outer, Physical, Monetary etc expression.

Thus the east would become the monetary power, and the West would go for Spiritual depth.

Not all bad, but our new masters if they come from the east, have a history of oppression to individuality.

[Calz]

Catherine Austin Fitts has long suggested that money was being moved from usa to china since mid 90s. She was one of the rare "honest" people in DC and tried standing up to daddy bush admin policies (leading to lawsuits and all sorts of grief on her behalf). Amazing lady.


Catherine Austin Fitts' understanding of the global financial system and the inner workings of the Wall Street-Washington axis are unparalleled. As the former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Housing/Federal Housing Commissioner, Catherine was one of the first to warn of an approaching housing bubble. Her prediction that a 'strong dollar policy' would ultimately lead to a weakened federal credit is currently being proven correct.

http://solari.com/

[Lost Soul]

Concur with Calz_Avaretard that Catherine Austin Fitts is one of the good gals (sorry, can't use guy with her).

[loveandgratitude]

Most of the money that was shipped to China was the drug money. The connection was the Bush/Clinton crime family. They then laundered this money with China under the banner of WAL MART. Guess who was the CEO of WAL MART at this time? Come on....have a guess.......without googling it.

[DNA]

Ben has been banging on about the White dragons, who have 100,000 ninja assassins who will help carry out any issues.

Unfortunately for ben, he has been saying the same thing for a few years now, though nothing seems to come of it. having said that though, I have no idead whether they have or not. Maybe they have stopped certain deals go through or something, but at any rate, its kind of all grain of salt stuff when it comes to ben. nothing real to go on.

PVM

I wouldn't say nothing real to go on. I wouldn't say that at all.

Ben explained through his relationship with the Japanese Finance Minister how the USA is extorting money from Japan in the form of US bonds and US debt purchases.

Japan was considering their options in this area, and contemplating a halt in their purchase of US debt, to which the USA opened up a can of HAARP on their ass.

The HAARP generated earth quake was in the vicinity of the now defunct fukoshima nuclear power plant, it was then stated much worse would happen to that power plant via HAARP technology if they did not go on purchasing US debt.

I find this diabolical, and "dont judge me" fascinating all at the same time.
Fulford reported all of this in his 2008 interview with Camelot, and then we have the disaster that took place in March 2011 and makes you wonder WTF????

In so much as the "White Dragons" go, I sometimes think Ben may be a bit naive in believing everything he is told by these gangster ninjas.

[Billy]

I looked, but could not find...a recent post concerning Ben Fulford and the White Dragon Society.

They have met and of course the controllers will never go out without a fight.

However, this article that BF wrote is very interesting and I really hope that both things happen that are included in this article. Keeping fingers crossed.

Interesting! :biggrin1:



Sarkozy and Soros send negotiator to visit White Dragon Society but talks inconclusive
Posted by benjamin
April 11, 2011

http://eclinik.wordpress.com/vital-issues/ben-fulford/sarkozy-and-soros-send-negotiator-to-visit-white-dragon-society-but-talks-inconclusive/

If you are not subscribed to Bens Blog you can only access part of the updates.
http://benjaminfulford.net/

[kouby]

Hum. I didn't actually think people still believed this guys crap. Just look at his eyes, he's a self-centred megalomaniac with rather bad story-telling abilities.

[Nathalie]

Hum. I didn't actually think people still believed this guys crap. Just look at his eyes, he's a self-centred megalomaniac with rather bad story-telling abilities.

You know what? I never had a good feeling about this guy either! Maybe he is legit, but I sense something odd about him... And you are so right about the "bad story-telling abilities". Half the time, I have no idea what he's talking about! Ok, my knowledge on the subject is very limited, but really...

[DNA]

Hum. I didn't actually think people still believed this guys crap. Just look at his eyes, he's a self-centred megalomaniac with rather bad story-telling abilities.

Let's see,,,,hmmmmmm,,,,,Camelot has done not one but two detailed multi hour interviews with him. And we are on a project avalon message board,,,sooooooooo, hmmmmmmm,,,I think yes,,,,,I think yes there would be a few folks who might take him seriously.

You are correct, he is not a great entertainer, I'm sorry if that is a pre-requisite in your whistle blowers.

[loveandgratitude]

Ben is a brave and very knowledgeable individual. How many times have you personally been considered mad or insane when trying to explain the state of affairs to the uninformed masses.

[Calz]

Yes, I too was once a brave poster of Fulford. The doctor was right you know. After about the 10th electroshock treatment it simply was no longer an issue for me.



To post, or not to post ... THAT is the question.

Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer

The slings and arrows of outrageous Trolls,

Or to take arms against them defending a Nugget's Right to Post!!!


William Shake yer nuggets Speare


You see before you the Courtroom of Nuggetville. Not as cool as Hiram's Smoking Lounge nor as fun as 9eagle9's Margarita Bar :washing: but justice isn't about having fun.


:welcome:

All are welcome here. Every size, shape, color, planet, density, dimension, belief system and reality paradigm. Yes ... even Trolls are welcome (note: please check yourself in with the nice Cow at the door. He will fit you with the appropriate electroshock collar).


The Court is in Session

Bailiff Present the Charges:

Your Honor. In the case of People vs Nuggets we present the following charges as taken from the thread (names withheld to protect the ... innocent?):

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17583-Out-there-even-for-Fulford



why do people keep posting stuff from Fulford?


Fulford "more right than wrong"...Nesara?...any evidence of either being a reality


What a complete load on nonsense..

Why on earth even post such rubbish? please tell? It may be more interesting than the garbage I just read above.


We as a community have a responsibility to the readership if we engage in disclosing previously unknown facts. We need to be very discriminating or our reputation will suffer accordingly. That fact seems obvious. It is proper that we examine fantastic or unrealistic claims in open forum. It is a credibility issue.


Also what is this thread doing in "News and Updates"?


Critical thinking is paramount in order to come to some form of commonsense and rational. The above quoted example is plain to see as complete rubbish and posting such rubbish does at least highlight this kind of ridiculous nonsense portrayed by some as a form of "source" that is worth reading.


My question is valid and worth a response from the poster, as to why post such nonsense


Why? what is the point, what is the motive? I wish to hear the rational, 200 million man army... please enlighten me as to the worth of posting such rubbish.


How does the defendant plead?

On my knees Your Honor :hail:


Defense may take the floor:


Each and every post/thread I have submitted (regarding Fulford) has some sort of "disclaimer" like "reader discretion" or "discernment needed" ... words to that effect. In this case it was implied in the title of the thread.

So why post something that discernment is needed? Fair question and I have included my opinion about that several times. Even disinformation has to have *enough* truth in it to capture the attention of the reader. In the case of Fulford, *IMHO* it isn't so much a matter of deliberate disinfo on his behalf. He does have some inside connections from that portion of the world. How many people have been granted personal interviews with Leo and Rockefeller?

IMHO Fulford's intentions are good but he is being played like a violin :violin:

He has become much more "animated" and "emotional" considering the circumstances in Japan. Is that so hard to understand?

What I *personally* find worthwhile in following his blog is that due to the scope and alarming nature of his claims ... even using a disinfo ratio of truth to sh*t then even if only a few things he claims are true it is worth noting IMHO.

A lot of people are interested to hear what he has to say ... yes even here at Avalon.. Why? Entertainment? Shock value? Perhaps it just feels so gosh darn good when he spouts off about the Bush/Rocky Cabal :eyebrows:


Fulford should be "fair game" here. He was vetted enough to get a video interview on Camelot. Correct?

Let's see ... I have been mauled by Trolls over Fulford, Wilcock, Deagle, Laura Knight J, Weidner and likely others that I have long forgotten. These are all people who have been interviewed by Camelot in one fashion or another.

Having said all that please understand that *I DO* understand and agree with the nature of many posts (where here I playfully lump together as "Troll"). We *ALL WANT TRUTH* and that is a major motive for most all of us being here. Correct???

Bottom line is this is Avalon. It is a forum where we can exchange information, viewpoints and opinions.

Does that mean Trolls should roam free attacking every nugget that posts something to annoy them?

As with any forum this debate is often approached and in the thread I linked that prompted all this there were *many* posts defending the right to post whatever they wanted to. I appreciated your posts.



He is also aware that the way to prevent a given thing from happening.... is to speak out about it before hand. Personally I'd rather (and I've been in that position) speak and be wrong than allow even speculative (or poorly supported) "foreknowledge" to come to naught.

I'm neither for nor against.....I'm just sayin'.


This was one such post that deserves mention. The most clear example of this type of situation would be the recent "flu pandemic". Most all of us were sure as we could be this was a deliberate and staged event. Most all of us were waving red flags and spreading the word. Yet it fizzled out. Why? Were we all wrong? Did the "galactic federation" or "management" prevent it? Did we jump timelines? :bolt:

I suggest at least part of what happened was *BECAUSE* so many people were becoming aware of that possibility. Even having the WHO declare a "level 6 pandemic" before hardly anyone died made it almost laughable (in hindsight of course).

Point being if an intuitive has a vision (aka Deagle's dream about nukes going off in LA) dont' you feel they should be offered a bit of understanding when they try to get the word out?

One last thing.


Also what is this thread doing in "News and Updates"?

I suppose it would have been more "appropriate" to put in another forum. I didn't give it much thought. But where does it end???

Do we need a seperate sub-forum for Fulford with some sort of disclaimer at the top like the Channeling forum so that such "offensive" posts can more easily be dismissed???

Hmmmm.


Anyway ... I am rambling ... I was not available to respond immediately after starting the thread in question so trying to lump together as much as possible here rather than 20 seperate posts.



Why on earth even post such rubbish? please tell? It may be more interesting than the garbage I just read above.


Did you get your money's worth??? :croc:


Accountable Nugget ... 1 ... 2 ... 3 ... 4 ... See nuthin to it


Defense Rests it's Case


May the debate begin again ... or left to die ...

Up to you the noble jury members of Avalon


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17984-WHAT-How--DARE--a-Nugget-start-a-Fulford-Thread

[loveandgratitude]

FuNnY................BrIliAnt.........YoU aRe SaNe.......i CaN SeE

[jackovesk]

In response to this post by Ben Fulford:


Secret meeting of 57 finance ministers on ship charts new financial system.

For the past week, a secret meeting of 57 finance ministers aimed at setting up a new international financial system took place in a large ship on international waters near Europe, according to White Dragon Society representatives who were there. The meeting, hosted by Switzerland, deliberately excluded representatives from the US Federal Reserve Board and its Washington D.C. subsidiary, France, Italy, the UK, Germany and Japan. Countries like Russia, China and the Netherlands were among the 57 represented. Representatives from the Pentagon and the US agencies at the meeting promised to bypass the Federal Reserve board and use their access to codes for the international collateral accounts to finance the US military industrial complex in conjunction with the new system.


Whistleblower:

Dear Benjamin,

While you do not know me, my name is Mr. A (name deleted to protect individual from job loss and/or murder) and I applaud your long standing efforts and your endeavors to see an end to the prolific frauds in the banking industry. Fraud is so prolific, one could say that the modern banking system runs almost entirely on fraud.

I am having a period of elation as I was there in Monaco last week when Mr. X (name deleted to protect individual from job loss and/or murder) presented his case to the attendees of that meeting. I will not mention the countries who had senior Ministers attending or give specifics on the organization of that meeting. At long last, I can see tangible evidence that the fraud committed by banks and major brokerages is coming to an end. But your blog is right, there were 57 Governments represented at the meeting.

More than that, I can now see that there will soon be a day that those who are responsible for dispossessing millions of families in order to expand their own profits and from that, increase the enormous bonuses bankers earn, not from honest business, but from fraud, deception and theft. As a guardian of the Global Accounts who has been compelled to silence in the face of all this thievery, I am elated to speak out as there is a new day coming.

At the outset of the planned meeting, Jay Rockefeller demanded entry. He was never invited and the meeting was by invitation only. Rockefeller was confronted by Mr. X who told him he was not coming in to the meeting. Rockefeller then stamped his annoyance and said "Do you know who I am". Mr. X replied, yes I know who you are, you are nobody.

After some shouting and raging by Rockefeller and being told by Mr. X that the old world order is out and a new world order is about to begin, Mr. X told Rockefeller that it was a brave new world for the young and that old mummies like him were merely dust to be swept away. Rockefeller left and returned with security personnel and tried to force his way into the meeting, whereby Mr. X called his own security and had Rockefeller literally thrown out. I was there, I saw it and I know what happened.

The meeting was adjourned to a ship and the ship moved to international waters and then two helicopters suddenly appeared with the obvious intention of disrupting the meeting. Within minutes Military Aircraft showed up and after dipping their wings several times, the helicopters left the area after being obviously threatened. We understand that from the aggressive posture the aircraft took behind the helicopters that it was move away or we will shoot you down.

More than that, it seems that the agreements taken at that meeting prove out what you have been saying for weeks. The Bilderbergers and Committee of 300 and the Khazars, the CFR etc, BIS, IMF and perhaps the World Bank are on the way out. More than that, estimates of people such as senior bankers that will be going to jail if the accounts are audited is expected to be more than 50,000. I believe that Globally, it could be closer to 100,000. The very thought of all these lying, thieving bankers who cheat and steal from hard working people doing hard time is a joy I cannot contain within myself.

Mr. X is a tough bulldog and this man is really something. Who would ever have thought that what was just another theft by banks, albeit of 134.5 Billion in stolen bonds, would bring the world to where it is. They claimed this is not real and the Italian Government can claim whatever they like but those Bonds were ledgered into their Treasury and through to the United States where they were announced as (recently uncovered and unspent) TARP funds.

Behind him is Mr. B (name deleted to protect individual from job loss and/or murder), so often vilified, but the primary adviser to Mr. X. Mr. X has been smart to take Mr. B on as there is nobody who knows more about these Global Accounts accounts and their relationship to banking fraud that does Mr. B. I think that today, most interested people know Mr. B is not cut from the same cloth as Ray C. Dam. Mr. X and Mr. B will change the world for the better. They have the knowledge, skills and balls to do it. More than that, they are both men of notable integrity. The Khazars will find no safe hiding place in this world. No matter where they go or what they do, they will be hunted and hounded. The world is waking up, and it is a vengeful world who will want to exact a terrible vengeance against these no good lying thieves. Best of all, as the truth will come out, these rats will have nowhere to hide, for not even their friends and associates will help a one of them. Like rats they will turn on each other as they try to escape the just wrath of the masses. You could help expose how they cheat and steal in way that will astound most people.

This brings me to the point of this email to you. Please find a way make contact with Mr. B. The knowledge this man has on banking scams would fill volumes. He knows what banks are doing and he knows how to resolve it. Banks are not just robbing people, they are robbing Government treasuries and they are sending countries broke. It has to stop. I can see now that it can be stopped. If you have any doubts about Mr. B, then ask Mr. X. I know you talk to Mr. X.

Blessings,

Senior Financial Official V (name deleted to protect individual from job loss and/or murder)
Note by Benjamin Fulford:

Mr. X and Mr. are in contact with this writer as are many other brave high level insiders who are rising to overthrow the evil Cabal.

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

[the trojan]

Dear Benjamin,

While you do not know me, my name is Mr. A (name deleted to protect individual from job loss and/or murder) and I applaud your long standing efforts and your endeavors to see an end to the prolific frauds in the banking industry. Fraud is so prolific, one could say that the modern banking system runs almost entirely on fraud.

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This bit interests me,


.....While you do not know me, my name is Mr. A (name deleted to protect individual from job loss and/or murder) and I ....

Was it Mr Fulford who deleted the name,it seems that way.
Why did he do this if it was included in the response,surely the whistleblower is more than aware of the consequences and according to his
post,He was there ..so he knows full well the consequences of any actions based on his connections.
and he signs off with his jobtitle//role in the proceedings ....... Senior Financial Official V
I think Mr Fulford should print all the details and be damned.

[Eligos]

Unfortunately, anybody could have written this. It's all too good to be true once again.

[firstlook]

Unfortunately, anybody could have written this. It's all too good to be true once again.

I would disagree on the "too good". Nothing of it seems like a easy fix. Something like this requires alot of work and sweat. Just like anything else in this world. It may seem from an outside perspective to be "savior" material, but if true, I imagine its just people struggling to to whats right, and in the interest of power.

Just some thoughts.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-FvEEPcxYk

[Syl]

Unfortunately, anybody could have written this. It's all too good to be true once again.

Even though I would like to be believe it, I remain skeptic aswell for the time being, however the part where Rockefeller is rejected brought a smile to my face,.. Gotta love a vivid imagination :)

(last time btw I've read this, the helicopters had pulse guns!? Did Fullford edited his post, or did I got it second hand somewhere else? dunno, i remember reading this yesterday, with pulseguns on the helicopter!?)

[Ernie Nemeth]

I sensed a lot of projected positiveness but with an underlying current of secrecy. Warnings went off at the idea of a vengeful world wanting to exact vengeance on the perpetrators.

It seems to still leave the same game with a new name. But it could be a springboard to even more radical change.

Who knows. Have to wait and see.

Mr. Fulford knows his stuff.

[seko]

I hope this is true.

I would love to see the cabal disappear.

Balance the world again.

Thank you jackovesk

[Lifebringer]

Electromagnetic pulse on the heliocopters was correct, but a tip of the military security wings to "move it or lose it" got the point across to the old phart from West Virginia.

So he thought he was a tough guy huh?

Bwhahahahahah, one thing they cant change is the strength in their scrawney little old bodies. That's why they send us to war, and not the old codgers who never served anything but a stake on the grill.

HalleluYAH finally some divine intervention and the peoples of the world putting their foot up some crooked behinds to straighten them out.

[kathymarie]

...loved your post but must say there are still many of us in WV who view him as a carpetbagger....he came here in the 60's to "help us"...it appears to me he has helped himself most. I actually met him back when he was young and our Secretary of State....before he became Governor then Senator. I made this Benjamin Fulford post days ago along with someone else so it's here on PA at least 3 times. I'm not sure I trust the veracity of it but it made for a good laugh.


Electromagnetic pulse on the heliocopters was correct, but a tip of the military security wings to "move it or lose it" got the point across to the old phart from West Virginia.

So he thought he was a tough guy huh?

Bwhahahahahah, one thing they cant change is the strength in their scrawney little old bodies. That's why they send us to war, and not the old codgers who never served anything but a stake on the grill.

HalleluYAH finally some divine intervention and the peoples of the world putting their foot up some crooked behinds to straighten them out.

[WhiteFeather]

Can't wait for the Free Energy Devices To Be Lifted from suppression by TPTB, My Bill electric was $400 this month. Ouch!

[WyoSeeker]

Tangible evidence they're turning on each other?

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Feds-sue-biggest-US-banks-apf-3066897747.html?x=0

Fingers crossed...!

[ThePythonicCow]

To Mods,

Please delete this post as I have mistakenly entered it twice.

Thanks
Actually, I think I shall delete the other one, as this is the one which has the replies :) :cow: :)

[Unified Serenity]

This may tie into this information. From Prison Planet:

Goldman Sachs is doing it again. Goldman is telling the public that everything is going to be just fine, but meanwhile they are advising their top clients to bet on a huge financial collapse. On August 16th, a 54 page report authored by Goldman strategist Alan Brazil was distributed to institutional clients. The general public was not intended to see this report. Fortunately, some folks over at the Wall Street Journal got their hands on a copy and they have filled us in on some of the details.

It turns out that Goldman Sachs secretly believes that an economic collapse is coming, and they have some very interesting ideas about how to make money in the turbulent financial environment that we will soon be entering. In the report, Brazil says that the U.S. debt problem cannot be solved with more debt, that the European sovereign debt crisis is going to get even worse and that there are large numbers of financial institutions in Europe that are on the verge of collapse. If this is what people at the highest levels of the financial world are talking about, perhaps we should all start paying attention.

Economic Collapse Is Coming
(http://www.prisonplanet.com/even-goldman-sachs-secretly-believes-that-an-economic-collapse-is-coming.html)

[KosmicKat]

If this is what people at the highest levels of the financial world are talking about, perhaps we should all start paying attention
Just try not to be distracted from your higher objective.


Like rats they will turn on each other as they try to escape the just wrath of the masses.
Ordinarily I would advocate kindness and compassion towards these people no matter what wickedness they have perpetrated. But in this case, my feeling is that the most loving thing we can do is not to support them any further. If they need shelter, let them ask their fellows. If they are hungry, let them ask their fellows. Unless they show genuine remose and a commitment to make good what they have mis-made.

What I am trying to say is, I often hear angry voices here, and revenge and retaliation make mockery of all the lessons we should have learned on the way to this point. If the situation arises, don't let circumstances make us the monsters we are trying to overcome.

[WhiteFeather]

Hey Avies Here's A Sequel From My Last Post From Benjamin Fulford http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29328-Executive-Decision-Re-Gold-Backed-Global-Fiinancial-System&p=297379#post297379. I understand there are many who do not support his ideas, b/s etc. Take it for what it is. As for myself it is 50/50. But have a look at this. Pretty Interesting Perspective. And what an imagination Ben may have.

The criminal cabal that has seized power in the G5 countries has reacted with new threats of mass terror to the concerted efforts by the nations and people of the world to remove them from power.

The latest threat, made by phone to a White Dragon Society member by some people who hid their identity, was that San Francisco and Damascus would be made “uninhabitable.” In reaction to this, a source contacted the White Dragon Society and promised that the entire extended families of any ruling bloodline found to be participating in genocide would be hunted down and exterminated down to the last individual. The source was not affiliated with the White Dragon Society but, they made it clear they that this threat was to be taken “very seriously.”

The repercussions of the secret late August meeting of financial representatives from 57 nations, meanwhile, continued to be felt last week. The criminal cabal that controls the Federal Reserve Board was engaged in a futile witch hunt trying to find who the participants were and what was discussed at the meeting. They are unlikely to find out much more than has been reported in this newsletter. That is to say White Dragon allies in the pentagon and US and world police agencies have access to the codes for the global collateral accounts. If necessary they will reveal who has accessed the world’s monetary assets for the past 60 years and what they spent that money on.

However, they would rather concentrate on the future and are still open to deals and compromises so long as the bottom line is that a major campaign to end poverty, end war and stop environmental destruction is agreed to. The window of opportunity is fast closing now, and the guiltiest cabal members are probably now certain to face prison time or worse.

There is also a need here to make a correction from last week’s report. It turns out that a representative from Canada (this writer’s native land) was present at the 57-member Monaco meeting. He said Canada is a small country (in terms of population) that has to pretend to go along with whoever is formally in power in the G5 but that the Canadian power structure was full of White Dragon sympathizers.

There has also been more confirmation from CIA and pentagon sources that there was indeed an attack on two major underground facilities controlled by the cabal in the US. The food, gold and weapons depot the cabal had near Washington D.C. was destroyed in an atomic blast, these sources now confirm. The nature of the second attack remains uncertain but two sources say it was the cabal’s underground facilities near Denver, Colorado that were destroyed. The people behind this attack have detailed maps of the US underground base and tunnel network and have promised more attacks if necessary to prevent the planned murder of 85% of humanity.

There are plenty of signs for all to see now that the criminal cabal that controls the G5 countries is on the ropes.

In the US, of course the 10th anniversary of the 911 terror attacks is coming and the perpetrators of this attack know that the world’s governments, military forces and intelligentsia know that it was a high level cabal in the G5 governments that was behind the attack. The perpetrators are now certain to face justice within a year. There is a critical mass of officials within the US military and law-enforcement community that is preparing for a legal takedown of the criminal cabal behind both the 911 attacks and the Kennedy assassination and much more.

In Europe, the signs of imminent collapse of financial control are also becoming impossible to hide. It has got to the point where even Deutschebank CEO Josef Ackerman is saying that many major European banks would become insolvent if they had to mark their sovereign debt to market. In plain English that means they are already bankrupt and are cooking their books. The situation will only get worse over the coming weeks.

In Japan, as well, there is serious intrigue going on under the surface. At present hoodlums associated with the Ministry of Finance are threatening officials of the Bank of Japan and trying to force them to resign. The fight is over which faction in the US battle for power is going to be on the receiving end of the steady supply of yen that is keeping the US economy from imploding. The BOJ is now affiliated with the White Dragon Society and wants the money to flow to white hats within the pentagon.

Recently deposed Prime Minister Naoto Kan as well as senior BOJ and MOF officials all called a White Dragon Society member about this conflict on Monday. The situation may have to be resolved through open gang warfare and a purge of all senior Federal Reserve Board agents from the Japanese power structure.

The cabal is obviously not going to take this sitting down. Their next big geopolitical move, according to CIA and pentagon sources, appears to be to try to provoke a war between Turkey and Israel. This is their latest attempt at a hail Mary pass to get them out of their predicament by starting WW3.

Unfortunately for them, the Israeli people are waking up to the fact they are being used by a criminal cabal. The demonstration of 450,000 people, about 25% of the population, was a clear sign of this.

To put that in perspective, it would be as if 75 million Americans turned out to demonstrate against their government. The complaints of the demonstrators for focused mainly on social justice which, at the end of the day, is what all the complaints against the ruling cabal are centered on.

It is unlikely either the Israelis or the Turks will allow themselves to be manipulated into war. Nor will people in other countries. The people of the planet earth want peace.

Go Easy, And Do I need to go and get my hard hat? LoL

[Lifebringer]

I pray they help me kick this nasty tobacco habit of 51 years.
To wake up and never want to have another cigarette is a dream come true for me.
I have such aggressive and anxiety filled cravings, i feel like a smoke vampire sometimes. lol?
Maybe not.

[Taurean]

All I can say is that they have got a helluva good lid !

[Charlie Pecos]

a source contacted the White Dragon Society and promised that the entire extended families of any ruling bloodline found to be participating in genocide would be hunted down and exterminated down to the last individual.

I would bet money the 'ruling bloodlines' have participated in and been responsible for genocide more than just a little bit over the course of history.

[Mark]

Ben has been getting more and more interesting. I'm following these developments with interest. Taken alongside the obvious signs of imminent economic collapse it would not at all be a surprise if there are these kinds of machinations going on immediately behind the curtain.

[Taurean]

Hmmm

Swiss National Bank acts to weaken strong franc

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14801324

Swiss gloves come off in battle over value of franc

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/swiss-gloves-come-off-in-battle-over-value-of-franc-2350291.html

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

(...)Unfortunately for them, the Israeli people are waking up to the fact they are being used by a criminal cabal. The demonstration of 450,000 people, about 25% of the population, was a clear sign of this.

To put that in perspective, it would be as if 75 million Americans turned out to demonstrate against their government.(...)

Israel has 7,697,600 citizens. 25% of Israel population is 1,924,400 people. 25% of USA population is 78,038,750 people (312,155,000 total). If 25% of USA is 75 million people then 12 million people are missing in entire USA (312,155,000 minus 4*75,000,000 people). Either something does not square here or population quotas from Ben's message are outdated or Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population) is incorrect.

[KosmicKat]

Wikipedia incorrect! Unthinkable! What would that mean to the hundreds of students who rely on Wikipedia citations to support their initial theses?

[WhiteFeather]

I pray they help me kick this nasty tobacco habit of 51 years.
To wake up and never want to have another cigarette is a dream come true for me.
I have such aggressive and anxiety filled cravings, i feel like a smoke vampire sometimes. lol?
Maybe not.

LOl and Ditto, Im trying as well. In baby steps.

[Maia Gabrial]

Thank you, WhiteFeather. I was just at his website, reading the first paragraph which is what non-members get to read. More like entice them to join. Anyway, who else out there in medialand is saying anything like this? They don't know anything. Or can't say anything. None of us know what's going on behind the scenes because we're not privy to it. Maybe we can support the White Dragons in our own ways by letting our govt leaders know we're mad and we're not taking anymore crap from them.... It might just be the energies that topples TPTW house of cards, make it come tumbling down. Yay! Go White Dragons!
I'm backing Fulford and the White Dragons with a positive push from me.