Benjamin Fulford's posts and reports

[aranuk]

It does seem to me that Benny was allowing, facilitating and co-operating with a member of the illuminati to plug his book 666. Was or is there another reason he did this on Japanese TV. I can't help but wonder. EDIT: Actually this is very interesting. We could, if we put our logical minds together figure out what benny boy is all about. Why did Benny do this interview at all full stop. There must have been a reason for him. Was it money, was it popularity with the Japanese audience?

Stan

[Second Son]

What??? Religion is all bunk? No way!!! ;)

[etm567]

I just wonder how many people who have zero religious affiliation have ever done anything physically beneficial for those in need. I hear many bash this group or that group, complain about people not doing anything, and yet if I know them personally I know for a fact that they don't do anything for others on their own. I know a lot of Christians who have given of their time, money, and talent to help those less fortunate than themselves. Some of my friends go to Haiti on regular trips to help build schools, put in water systems, helped in disasters.

I used to known an ardent atheist who took jobs with missionary groups just so he could go to Africa and help people there. He was a doctor. His name was Roger Hickman. He was a wonderful man.

He also at one time worked for an ocean liner writing a newsletter to get his passage to Africa, or wherever it was he was going to do good.

He didn't have the money to take himself to those places, so he cooperated with the missionaries. But he died an unrepentant atheist.

Me, I'm not an atheist, but I'm certainly not a member of any organized faith, because they have all been taken over and perverted.

Just my opinion.

[noxon medem]

I find nothing Earth-shattering here for me. I've believed for most of my life that religions were established to control the masses through fear and ignorance. When the religious "leaders" couldn't answer an eight year old’s simple questions and discouraged further inquiry by invoking their "you just have to have faith" mantra, for me at least, the response was unacceptable and it told me that all was not right with this religious stuff.

In my opinion, it makes absolutely no sense for the Creator of all that there is to wait thousands of years to dictate "His Word" to dozens of specially chosen ones only to have "His Word" reinterpreted, mistranslated, and edited over hundreds of more years and then disseminated to the masses via multiple—and often conflicting—organizations when, most certainly, He could impart what He wishes unmodified and directly to each and every person on the planet. Nor does it make any sense for a Creator that espouses unconditional love, compassion and caring for all of His creations to use fear and threat of torture and eternal damnation for those who do not bow down to Him and follow His every wish and desire—like one might do to keep from being tortured or killed by some maniacal dictator.

I believe we are all sparks of the Creator and, as such, have a direct line to Him that is accessed by looking inward and not outward. I believe, deep down, we all know what is right and what is not and that truth is found within if we just look.

Nice words
Wise views

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[Second Son]

I take my family out in the back yard every Sunday to dig holes. We are looking for the world's LARGEST diamond... a priceless beauty, with it we will be blessed with untold wealth and happiness, and never have another earthly care in the world. Actually it doesn't matter if we every REALLY find it... the great serenity we all feel just BELIEVING it is there, is enough to make us all content.

It's a beautiful thing really, and probably no more a waste of time than watching sports... and yes, I have the greatest respect for sports fans the world over... really ;)

[gittarpikk]

Great comments ..great commentary here..strange... maybe I should've posted that Fulford vid on Avalon..:pop2:

I've always felt that the heavy 'don't do's' rampant in the Bible was from a different God/being/entity. My real 'raised eyebrow moment' came about the time I was introduced to the Urantia book and a few others... so religion seemed more of the government it actually represented than a desired existence.....but Fulfords sidekick pretty much 'called them all out' this time .... in one show...:shocked:

[161803398]

Absolutely nothing earth shattering for me either. I was horrified by the Bible in Sunday school when I was child because it utterly conflicted with everything I knew to be true. I've never been able to understand the world or anything that is going on here although I tried many times. Only in the last few years have I been able to understand the world at all, and only because I finally realized that whoever is running the world is almost totally evil. That is the only way anything here makes sense.

[161803398]

But don't the KGB always have some plot to demoralize the West? If they still exist.

[Elixer]

The "don'ts" in the bible are actually pretty cool if you ask me. Do anything you want, except these and they are very few. You're referring to the 10 commandments, right? I am.
Actually Seth (from Jane Roberts) boils it down to just the one they all come down to: "Do not Violate". That's just excellent!

There are the 7 deadly sins. 'Vanity', 'Sloth', 'Wrath' and so on. "Do or be any of those and you go to hell".
What they tell me however, is that you are free to do these, but realize that it is these 7 things that will lead you away from your path, make you easily exploitable. Potentially make life a living hell for you. Warning signs along the road.

They might also be considered the trappings of ego.
For instance, As soon as a truth-seeker becomes a prominent speaker, there is the vanity thing that gets exploited. They might think, because they're being told, that they are the special ones, here to save humanity. I call it the "Arthurian exploit". I had one pulled on me in a dream last night.

See, this is biblical stuff that has great value, if you read beyond the distortions, which of course I (only) think I have. ;)
The 'Illuminatus' saying "it's nothing but lies", is disregarding this completely, grossly oversimplifying things, which makes me doubt his worth.

As for the Urantia Book, I'd be a little careful with that one. I had high hopes for that book before I bought it. It's potentially wonderful, but there are some insidious messages throughout. I couldn't keep reading it because of those. I posted some quotes from the book on this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30314-The-Urantia-Book&p=308503&viewfull=1#post308503)
Obviously this is also merely my opinion. If it is a helpful to you or anyone, great, enjoy. That goes for the bible and the rest of it as well, as long as we "do not violate".

Obviously I am also well aware that religion has not done us a great service collectively, that the bible and other religious texts are full of corruptions and that they are also used for political and control purposes.

Due to the complexity of it all, I think we need a little more nuance, especially coming from supposed wise ones, initiated into ancient secrets and such.

If there is an infinite creator, a prime source, then obviously satan is part of that source, as woud all things be. The god he is attacking is not this prime creator one, but perhaps some planetary custodian god. But even then there are details that shouldn't be overlooked.

I like the Law of One's idea of the Social Memory Complex, a group soul if you will. Yahweh could be one such SMC, Lucifer another, but they are not necessarily the same thing. I like the hidden_hand material that goes into this. It might be disinfo, who knows, but it does shed interesting lights on these subjects.

Yahweh has been getting a bad rep, deservedly so, perhaps. But his image also comes to us through the bible. All his smiting, anger, vengefulness, jealousy etc could be part of a deliberately negative depiction in order to pave the way for the Jesus. Out with the old, in with the new. You know.

...and on and on.


Great comments ..great commentary here..strange... maybe I should've posted that Fulford vid on Avalon..:pop2:

I've always felt that the heavy 'don't do's' rampant in the Bible was from a different God/being/entity. My real 'raised eyebrow moment' came about the time I was introduced to the Urantia book and a few others... so religion seemed more of the government it actually represented than a desired existence.....but Fulfords sidekick pretty much 'called them all out' this time .... in one show...:shocked:

[Wiremu2011]

Things are becoming more interesting every day! Smoke and Mirrors! What to believe and what not to believe. At the end of the day, I chose to go within myself and trust my own connection to ONENESS. This helps keep me grounded .

Bingo we have a Winner, well said lightseeker...

As for Benny Fulford he's got to up there as one of the best 'Free' entertainment personalities on the internet...

Mate I think Leo " Masonica" Zagami will give him a run for his money in the entertainment dept..LOL

[KosmicKat]

We are autonomous, sovereign beings, living in a dynamic system, and any reliance on stagnant dogma, penned by elitist men centuries ago, WILL DO NOTHING BUT DRAG US DOWN, PERIOD.

As someone else described them, the fetish texts are of very little value alone. Something I try to keep in mind when making decisions which may affect not only my own life, but those around me.

[Calz]

Public portion only ... but *perhaps* a step forward.

Time for the rubber to meet the road with Ben. The lawsuit has proven to be legit (regardless of whether or not it goes anywhere). We have confirmation regarding many of the leading nations cutting ties with the dollar. Cannot discount that. Something *appears* to be happening.

For your discerning amusement ...


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Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis 20120109:

The Feds have sued for peace and detailed settlement negotiations have begun

In a very major development, the Federal Reserve Board faction that is in de-facto control of the Obama regime and Israel has approached the White Dragon Society to negotiate a way to unfreeze their funds. They have promised to use any released funds for humanitarian projects and to develop hitherto forbidden technology.The 130-nation group that announced a new financial system through the Conscious Media Network on January 1st also contacted the White Dragon Society and said they will prove with action, and not words, that they represent extremely powerful interests. This writer initially, and apparently incorrectly, denounced the announcement as a psy-ops because this group was not identical to the 117 nation Monaco group previously reported about in this newsletter. All of these major factions will now have to reach an agreement. There will some serious horse-trading over the coming weeks before any sort of agreement is reached or public announcement is made but it appears a solution to the financial crisis is now on the horizon.

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

[ViralSpiral]

Oh Cal, what good news!!!!


Since I am a human-itarian project, I will be standing in line for a pair of shoes. Similar to these lovely red ones.


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Thank you ;)

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

If there is any truth in what Fulford has been saying, I just hope the WDS & others kick it up a gear or two so its not dragged out for years like every other political policy.
From my corner of the world, I do see things changing & picking up pace, but for the worse.

It would be nice to know who the 130-nation group is though.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

From Fulfords sight:

Page 1:
http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c647c53ef0167603cf250970b-800wi

Look at those numbers!

The money split:
Page 2:
http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c647c53ef0168e53dc86e970c-pi

[Bill Ryan]

Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis 20120109:

The Feds have sued for peace and detailed settlement negotiations have begun

The 130-nation group that announced a new financial system through the Conscious Media Network on January 1st also contacted the White Dragon Society and said they will prove with action, and not words, that they represent extremely powerful interests. This writer initially, and apparently incorrectly, denounced the announcement as a psy-ops because this group was not identical to the 117 nation Monaco group previously reported about in this newsletter.

I wonder if David Wilcock, who announced that James Martinez's announcement was a hoax, will also post a retraction.

All I can say personally about the James Martinez statement is that (a) James is a good man, (b) he was not knowingly hoaxing anything, and (c) there was not enough information in his statement to make any early judgment about its authenticity.

[Muzz]

Heres (http://lucas2012infos.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/ben-fulford-breaking-news-the-feds-have-sued-for-peace-and-detailed-settlement-negotiations-have-begun-9-january-2012/) the full report

[Calz]

Used to trade currencies and futures on a hobbiest basis.

Looking at the dollar index (monthly chart) it has actually been strengthening since last summer. Lotso manipulation going on (as has always been the case) but thought I would throw this up for any of the business minded members.

If the dollar is going to tank it is not evident here ... at least not yet.

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[CeltMan]

I was about to start a new thread, but noticed this part report here.

So here is the full report:

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Ben Fulford – BREAKING NEWS – The Feds Have Sued For Peace And Detailed Settlement Negotiations Have Begun – 9 January 2012
Posted on January 9, 2012 by lucas2012infos | Leave a comment

Lucas: “This news of Ben Fulford is wonderful. It seems all factions are round the table now to talk an agreement for a new financial system. Ben Fulford apologizes for him calling the Conscious Media Network announcement Psy-Ops. This is also great then that means things are coming together now and a solution for the better of all man kind and Earth can be brought to light.”

Here is the news of Ben Fulford:

The Feds Have Sued For Peace And Detailed Settlement Negotiations Have Begun

In a very major development, the Federal Reserve Board faction that is in de-facto control of the Obama regime and Israel has approached the White Dragon Society to negotiate a way to unfreeze their funds.

They have promised to use any released funds for humanitarian projects and to develop hitherto forbidden technology.
The 130-nation group that announced a new financial system through the Conscious Media Network on January 1st also contacted the White Dragon Society and said they will prove with action, and not words, that they represent extremely powerful interests.

This writer initially, and apparently incorrectly, denounced the announcement as a psy-ops because this group was not identical to the 117 nation Monaco group previously reported about in this newsletter.

All of these major factions will now have to reach an agreement. There will some serious horse-trading over the coming weeks before any sort of agreement is reached or public announcement is made but it appears a solution to the financial crisis is now on the horizon.

[The] group behind the current Washington D.C. regime came to negotiate with the White Dragon Society after a serious bout of recent midnight shoot-outs and daytime arrests crippled their control network in Japan.

The D.C. representative admitted “We used to pick the Japanese Prime Ministers, we would tell them: ‘this is who it is going to be,’ and that was it but now we have lost control.”

In essence the corporate Washington D.C. government is now going to have to negotiate a chapter 11 restructuring of their debt to Japan.
They have offered to pay off 90% of the debt with gold stashed in the Philippines and the rest in cash. There is a problem, of course, over who has the rights to the gold there as at least three claimants have emerged.

In any case, most of the US debt will have to be written off because the fact of the matter is the US cannot afford to pay it. The US will need to make some changes, though, before that is agreed to.

The real problem is that the US nation has had a structural trade deficit with the rest of the world for the past 30-years. This problem can be solved in two ways. One is to keep using the US dollar and wait until US living standards fall to third world levels before the US is competitive again.

The other is to realize that 90% of the dollars ever created are now outside of the US and the interests of those dollar holders are not the same as those of the United States.
That means the US needs to issue Treasury dollars of their own and devalue them relative to the international US dollar. That will mean the Chinese stuff in Wal-Mart will suddenly become more expensive but it will also mean the US economy will be competitive once again.

The other problem is that the US military industrial complex has to transform itself into a productive and life-enhancing entity instead of being a parasitical and life-destroying entity.

The initial discussions between the Feds and the White Dragon representative revealed no major disagreement over these fundamental issues. The next step is to open formal negotiations with the once-again independent Japanese government. This should start next week.

The other big problem now to be discussed is what to do about the huge gap between the off-ledger or shadow banking system and the on the books banking system.

Essentially the off-ledger stuff has got way more zeros than the on the books stuff and some very greedy and powerful people are going to have to be forced to agree to erase a lot of zeros from their bank accounts.

There is simply not enough reality to justify all those numbers.
The result has been the off-ledger books have been frozen out of the on-ledger system.

This is where the factions have been secretly fighting each other using midnight-shoot outs, rival code books, promised astronomical bribes, spies and computer hackers. So far, the real world of on the books banking has prevailed over the virtual world of huge numbers hidden in “grey screens,” and “black screens.”

Some secret government files signed by Queen Elizabeth on behalf of the committee of 300 have also been sent to this writer and confirmed by BIS linked sources as genuine.

They will be posted on this writer’s free blog as well for everybody to see. Note the astronomical numbers and the mention of a Chinese Red Dragon. The person who sent these files is connected to former Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos. Marcos was one of the many prominent victims of the owners of the Fed.

What is becoming increasingly apparent after talking to many different secret agents, secret societies and other groups is that ultimately the financial system is the link between group psychology and the real world.

The gold, for example, exists in the real world but it is human psychology that determines who “owns” it. What is happening now is that the small secret group than controlled “finance,” is not secret any more

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

18 zeros is a quadrillion I think?

[Bill Ryan]

18 zeros is a quadrillion I think?

18 zeros is a quintillion. :)

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Cheers Bill. So its a lot then? :)

[NewFounderHome]

I was wondering if they will put everything out in the public or continue the secret stuff hidden from all.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Its nice to have some good news. I hope we start seeing actual visible changes soon. I don't imagine the oil barons will take this laying down. They wont want repressed tech released as it would stop there need to steal oil and start wars.

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I was wondering if they will put everything out in the public or continue the secret stuff hidden from all.

Would be nice to see this on the news one day. Maybe part of the deal could be to return the media to being an honest media not controlled by the few. Maybe the MSM will become like the web.

[Bill Ryan]

Cheers Bill. So its a lot then? :)

An amusing anecdote. (I have to tell them sometimes!)

Kerry -- and I do not say this with any malice or criticism! -- is not very good with numbers (or zeros). I used to tease her about this all the time.

She once talked, in my absence, with an insider about quantities of gold. The numbers she reported to me later, in a Skype chat, were huge. I stopped her.

"Wait a minute", I said. "Do you realize how much gold you're talking about here?" (Kerry had not a clue.)

We resolved to find out the truth of the matter. We later met this person, who showed us some very real-looking documents -- which we were not allowed to copy or keep. There were so many zeros in the numbers on the papers he showed us that I literally had to count them twice.

:)

That there exists more gold in the world than is currently publicly acknowledged I am in no doubt. But the numbers David Wilcock was told are overblown. I have a strong suspicion who his source is: and if I'm correct, this person isn't very accurate with numbers either. Kerry will confirm this.

But the general point is that there is some substance to this kind of story of the claimed existence of large quantities of gold hidden away in the Far East (essentially: in Japanese waters, and in the Philippines). The implications, and the details, though, are open to question -- and much more analysis and fact-checking.

[Dennis Leahy]

When is someone going to announce that the CBDS (Cerulean Blue Dragon Society) or the CFRBM (Concubines of the Federal Reserve Board Members) has decided to stop all genetically modified food and destroy every GMO seed on the planet?

When (if) free energy technology is released, we can all live in abundance, and money will become relatively unimportant to the majority of people on the planet. But if Monstersanto is allowed to continue replacing real crops with GMO crops, what kind of abundance is that?

If I had a quintillion dollars, my two major projects would be
1A: releasing free energy technology
1B: switching all farming on Earth to organic (and destroying all the GMO seeds, pesticides, herbicides, and fungicides in existence)

That would be more valuable to humanity than dividing a quintillion dollars by 7 billion people (as if TPTB would actually equally divide the wealth of the planet anyway.)

This stuff (Ben Fulford's reporting, the lawsuit, etc.) does intrigue me, but I'm just not seeing/feeling anything describing a planned paradigm shift away from human slavery and into abundance and freedom. I'm just seeing lots of zeroes and a battle between gangs at or near the top of the pyramid. Imagine all of this info being read aloud by the smarmy style and voice of Robin Leech. That's the way I'm hearing this.


Dennis

[YvonneG]

Hello everyone,

I have been aware of certain "meetings" via teleconferencing that involved first 117 countries and then went up to 130 countries. Are these the same as the "countries" others speak of including Ben? Well, I don't know, but it is far too close to think it could be different. My source is a friend who is actually part of the "group" that is involved in this here in the USA. According to him, we will go back to Common Law very soon and a new financial system will be in place. Can he have been lied to...sure...can he be exaggerating...of course...can he have been making all this up for the last 20 months? I don't think so--so some of it has to be true...how it ties, well, it probably does, but I don't know.

Something is going on.

[Realeyes]

This is a very interesting debate where I would like to add my 2 cents worth on the subject of Yahweh (Jehovah) as I have spent many longs years of searching and contemplating this very deep question resulting in a number of revelations.

In my childhood I use to be a Christian and like all good Christians read the bible. It soon became apparent to me that there was a great difference between the God of the Old Testament and the God of the New Testament. Yahweh (old testament) expresses a huge amount of wroth, jealousy and vengeance upon anyone who did not bow down and worship him – this to me isn’t actions of a ‘Godly’ unconditional love supporting his children but rather 100% ‘tyrannical conditional twisted love’ to his subjects/slaves. God seemed to be ruthlessly cruel in one moment and in the New Testament loving in the next – Was God suffering from schizophrenia or were these two very different Gods? :confused: This is also the big debate amongst the Gnostics and also Cathars who refused to worship Jehovah as The God.

The person known as Jesus in the New Testament, as I understand it, is an amalgamation of three Messiahs’’ (‘anointed ones’) and their teachings of that time period; Yeshua Ben Joseph, Thomas Ben Joseph (Yeshua’s identical twin brother who eventually went to India) and Apolonius of Tyana. Jesus is quoted as saying something like this to the Jewish Rabi, that ‘his father in heaven was not the god of the old testament’, - basically IMHO, Jesus did not worship or promote Yahweh/Jehovah.

Jesus promoted in all-ways unconditional love; that the ‘Heavenly Father’ lives within everyone; it was never some wrathful judging god floating on a cloud ready to strike a lightning bolt. Reincarnation was also taught, sadly most of which was removed from scriptures by the Council of Nicaea 325AD – 431AD as well as many relevant gospels written in the times of Jesus’ life as the New Testament was being formed.

Who is this Yahweh/Jehovah? Jehovah is from my understanding a ‘co-creator god’ (little ‘g’) just like all of us co-creator gods, yet Jehovah pretends and masquerades as ‘The God’ of creation here on Earth. It is easy for him to do this, he has a very long lifespan and a few dimensional party tricks he can perform, making him look instantly superior – only because we humans have forgotten how to do such things – a miracle is only a ‘miracle’ to a person who does not understand ‘how’ the miracle is created.

As I understand it, he is the great, great grandson of Nin.hur.sag, half sister of Ea and Enlil – the Sumerian gods (again little ‘g’ in gods). This means Jehovah is genetically related to the Annunaki – which opens up a big ball game. The Annunaki are responsible for the concepts of religion and genetically modifying humans. [For more information a good starting place is to read the Zecharia Sitchin Earth Chronicle Books. Also Kerry Cassidy is hot on the heels of discovering the truth about the Annunaki].

The Yahweh/Jehovah Mindset: To understand this, just look at the shadow governments, black opps etc and their insidious agendas, not blinking an eye or a spark of conscience as they endorse ‘whatever’ that kills and brings huge sufferings to millions. They justify this because they see themselves as the appointed ‘landlord owners’ of this real-estate called Earth on behalf of Yahweh managing the herds where wars and cullings are necessary to keep their absolute control over others. Religion is an easy way to control and suppress the herd via their conscience and fear of death and a great money spinner also. The entity called Jehovah basically plays the same dice but on a bigger scale where planets, solar systems etc are the real-estate – it is all power games.

I am a great believer of Divine Intervention because when one starts unravelling what has been happening on this planet in the shadows, recognising the mass control, manipulation and suppression, it becomes clear it is not just ‘power crazy humans’ doing this to ‘humans’ – there are malevolent E.T. factors behind all of this. One can reach absolute despair and depression realising humanity doesn’t have a flying chance defending ourselves against the multitude of secret technology that can be and is turned upon us.

HOPE: This is why in Earth’s History so many souls have arrived here as walkins, starseeds, light-workers etc – this is all part of the Ground Crew that are all working alongside a Galactic Divine Intervention that is taking place on so many dimensional levels to assist our Solar System, Earth and Humanity at this time – to ‘awaken’ within humanity their connection to their holy divine spirit, learning how to raise their frequencies of consciousness beyond this technological mind control. Just to make this clear, I am not suggesting humanity is being ‘rescued’ – rather being gently assisted by our brothers and sisters of the stars of how to walk once again on the path of Spiritual Evolution, awakening the forgotten sleeping gods to once again reactivating their co-creator god consciousness. When consciousness awakens on a mass scale – it will become the evolved consciousness of Heaven here upon Earth as long foretold.

I have great hope for humanity – times are changing fast – people are becoming more conscious – the powers that were are scared as they see their control decaying rapidly.

It becomes clear the more one learns about the incredible wonders of how all life is formed with such beautiful geometry, it implies there is some sort of Universal Intelligence silently working behind the scenes – if one wishes to call this God, Source, Creator etc it is simply words to express the same thing – omnipresent, creative, unconditional love/life. And All Life is part of this greater Intelligence – not one atom is left out.

It is important to see the whole forest not just a tree – and IMHO using this as a simple analogy, Jehovah is an insecure tree puffing out his trunk and branches pretending to be the forest. After many lifetimes I am fooled no longer and see who you really are Jehovah – an insecure sleeping god who has yet to discover the unconditional spiritual love, peace and wonder within himself. He doesn’t feel alive or worthy unless he has a worshipping audience.

Mirrors: It is on the Spiritual path one starts to see the ‘mirrors’ in reality – I have spent many years contemplating what aspects the Jehovah story mirrors to myself and in a nutshell I realised this:- It is about ‘ATTENTION/‘OBSERVATION’ that varies depending on what Chakra consciousness (frequency) one is Observing from. The ultimate human evolution is to experience life from the Heart (4th Chakra) and going higher that is filled with ‘unconditional love and inner connectedness and respect for All Life; celebrating, supporting and contributing to the glorious wonders of Life for everyone to enjoy (in-joy). Chakras 1 -3 all have one thing in common ‘they seek attention’ OUTSIDE of themselves. 4th Chakra consciousness seeks ‘attention within’, because it becomes clear what is within is mirrored outside in reality.

The moment we give our attention away to something - we have given away our power to the illusion. Religions promote a god outside of them to worship and pray to – hello??? Jesus connected with his father 'within' and became 'one', not by being in some holy temple or calling out to some great being in the sky, but by closing his eyes and connecting to Source. We are all made from Source, so it is pure reason that each of us carries this God Spark wherever we go - it is simply down to each individuals choice of whether we activate it or not.

Jesus said he was the son of man and also the son of God – My understanding of this statement is that when Jesus was placing his attentions and consciousness on Chakras 1-3 he was the son of man, limited in consciousness and ability. When Jesus was being 4th Chakra upwards, he was activating his god within, and was now at one with his Father in Heaven and could now perform miracles and wise teachings etc. He also said something like ‘Ye shall do greater works’ – he was trying to tell us that when we walk this spiritual path we too can achieve such feats and even greater!

So to conclude, Jesus was teaching by example how to become the path of Christ Consciousness – a journey all Souls awaken to in their own time becoming co-creator gods of Evolution – completely consciously Awake in all levels of consciousness. Absolutely Anything that distracts and suppresses Conscious Evolution can be called Anti-Christ because it is going in the opposite direction. I personally wouldn’t say Yahweh is the Devil, I don't believe there is such a being, but he is certainly very misguided by his long standing actions being the Anti-Christ of deeds – that is, until one fine day he experiences the sweet unconditional love rush through his beingness and sees the true light. Then we will witness a very humble Jehovah doing many great deeds as he amends his past actions to lighten his very heavy soul. Even he is a child of Source on a journey to awaken. :biggrin1:

And just a side-note: In my many E.T. experiences during my lifetime, I have never witnessed any E.T. say three hail Marys, bow down to Allah, take communion or wear a crucifix around their neck. Religion in my experience is totally obsolete in the Space Frontier – so there is no job waiting for the Pope in the Stars. LOL. ;)

P.S. Discovering how religion has lied and manipulated humanity by twisting the truth to their own controlling agendas is a brave journey to seek – YET THIS IS IMPORTANT - it does not destroy the intent, essence and loving message and way of living/being Jesus was promoting – if one has the eyes to see and ears to hear – you will get it. Many have done their best over eons to share the same message – once you realise what the message is, you will recognise it everywhere and sometimes in the most strangest of places. :bounce:

Love to all of us co-creator gods waking up and twice as much to those who are still struggling to see. :grouphug:

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Further Research Material for those interested:

David Icke has a great chapter in his book “The Biggest Secret” that goes through ALL religions, Gods, Messiahs etc dating back to Ancient Egypt – it is a real eye opener! It’s the same story over and over again regurgitated.

For those of you who would like to read more about Jesus and the Bible and how the truth has been distorted, there are loads of books out there; here are two books I found most interesting and thought provoking.

“The Christian Conspiracy – How the Teachings of Christ Have Been Altered By Christians” by Dr. L David Moore, who is a Christian that seeks deeper understandings into the real teachings and message of Jesus.

“The Bible Fraud” by Tony Bushby. ‘How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us’ – Pope Leo X (1513 – 1521). This book paints a whole new light on the man called Jesus, his life, marriage, children and his connections with England.

The Gospel of Thomas – This gospel was written by Thomas Ben Joseph, identical twin to Jesus, giving deeper insights into Jesus’ life and private teachings he gave to his disciples. This Gospel was banned from being in the New Testament amongst many others found in the Nag Hammadi Scrolls. Google this, many of these lost gospels can be downloaded for free and most interesting to read - there's even a lost Gospel by Mary!

[jackovesk]

The attached documents were sent by a source linked to Ferdinand Marcos and have been confirmed as genuine secret government documents.

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c647c53ef0167603cf250970b-800wi

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c647c53ef0168e53dc86e970c-800wi

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c647c53ef0162ff4807a3970d-800wi

[Calz]

The attached documents were sent by a source linked to Ferdinand Marcos and have been confirmed as genuine secret government documents.

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c647c53ef0167603cf250970b-800wi

Yep and posted on Fulford's blog as well prior to today's update :)

[Dennis Leahy]

Someone please PM me as soon as any of this actually translates into a positive (health and abundance) paradigm shift for humanity, and not just the richest of the rich trading piles of gold, dollars, and zeroes - among themselves.

Until then, I'll try to be quiet...

:~)

Dennis

[Calz]

Someone please PM me as soon as any of this actually translates into a positive (health and abundance) paradigm shift for humanity, and not just the richest of the rich trading piles of gold, dollars, and zeroes - among themselves.

Until then, I'll try to be quiet...

:~)

Dennis

Lol :lol:

Not quite as strong as Bill's pledge to eat his hat if Nesara ever came to pass ... but admirable nonetheless :)

Jokes aside ... *something* seems to be happening.

Those not on the inside will simply have to wait and see ... perhaps even those on the inside as well???

IMHO

[jackovesk]

I still don't believe a word of it..!

The 'Proof is in the Pudding', so they say...

Your right Calz, when you say its time to 'Put Up or Shut Up' Benny Boy..!

Why then is the 'Fed' going to Devalue the $USD later this year, why don't they put a 'Line Through' all the 'Fiat PHONY Debt' and start all over again..?

Why are they still pushing the 'Global Warming LIE', using that word I hate 'Sustainability'..? Yeh, through Austerity, wiping out the Poor & Middle Class..!

Why are the 'War Drums' still beating on Iran..?

Why did the Central Bank & NATO destroy & takeover Lybia..?

Why was the NDAA just introduced..?

The list of 'Ongoings' is Fu#king Endless...

Like I said from the outset, "I still don't believe a word of it..!"

[000]

1 Quintillion is a *lot* of funds.

If one divides 1 Quintillion by 7 Billion, the result is aprox. $142,857,142.86 per individual, just as a wild hypothesis if indeed that amount truly does exist and is backed up by tangible assets. We shall indeed see in time whether or not all of this will come to be and if it does, how it will come about. According to the data from multiple stories so far, an indication would be players deciding to stick with the Old World Order plans dropping out of sight fairly quickly.

I would watch to see how the Israel/Iran/US/China/Russia/Europe situation plays out. If you keep your fingers on the pulse long enough and deeply enough, you see that nothing is really going according to plan, although it may seem like it on the surface. What I have seen is a whole lot of floundering and confusion. Just keep yours fingers on the pulse and watch and no matter how this all plays out, keep doing what you are doing, spend a little more time with family and friends, etc. Fear and pessimism are to be avoided at all costs as they truly do not help in any way.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Jeeeze thats alot of zeros !!

I didn't realize that queenie was the Chairman of the committee of 300 !?? ....

"humanitarian projects and to develop hitherto forbidden technology" so how is this going to be managed??

Also I wonder what time scale we are talking about here for action...

Interesting times...putting it mildly !

viking

[ljwheat]

7tyE2uN3OmY For me this is all too ---- well, un reachable----rasised in a world where all this fandango is just now coming out at the end of a long blight on mankind for what a blink of prosperity before the curtain closes on the final chapter of men? I do not see the point in getting caught up in a bubble that may or may not come into existence why now? Why so late in the game?
Like Jar Jar Binks in star wars said: “ Ex squeeze me” What ares sa yousa saying . 18 zero’s What does this benefit us? “Me’s a Simple have’a nothing.” My head can’t rap around that many Zero’s. when you have less than 30% of just one zero. LOL

[Calz]

*sigh*

baby ... bathwater folks.

something real *seems* to be happening ...

how many zeros does fiat money offer ... how many wheelbarrows full of C notes???

don't take your eye off the prize???

What matters more than moving beyond the system of control (matrix) we have been subjected to for how many generations now???

[Realeyes]

I am so glad I saw this thread before I signed off.

This news sounds really great............. pause......contemplation........Mmmmmm, yet........ yet.......trying to think of the words.....we still have a huge amount of mess to clean up from all that has been going on in the shadows and prepare for what may be coming from our Sun. Also, I just wonder if what seems great news will be enough to push forward a halt to what is time bomb smouldering away with what the old ptw have been setting up e.g. war, famine and disease on a worldwide scale? Is this news finally going to open up enough transparency to allow humans to wake up beyond the mind control and think for themselves, freely evolve and learn their real galactic history of origins and divineness?

If it flows towards inspiring all of this, then this is a day of celebration and History in the making ......

But if it is just another moving the furniture around to another shadow power house, handing out a few carrots to get our hopes up, yet still supressing humanities divineness - then this is not such a cheery day.

I am open minded observing with fascination how this unfolds. I do so hope with all my heart that this is the start of great change for a liberated humanity and New Beginnings for All. :grouphug:

I have the image from Brave Heart of William Wallace shouting out "FREEDOM!!!!!"

Is this Time finally dawning?

May it be So, God Speed us all there. So Be It.

Sweet Dreams everyone!

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

Ben Fulford is live on Controversial Tv - sky channel 200 tomorrow night (Tuesday) 10/1/12 at 8pm.
Host Theo (Chalmers) ONE STEP BEYOND

EdgeMedia Tv (http://www.edgemediatv.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4139)

[Calz]

we still have a huge amount of mess to clean up




Exactly ... best case scenario.

[gripreaper]

Not quite as strong as Bill's pledge to eat his hat if Nesara ever came to pass ... but admirable nonetheless :)

Bill said that? You know, Bill's hat has major notoriety in and of itself. I think he should put it up for auction, and I'll bet the proceeds from that alone could pay off the debt and put all things right in the world!

[Ba-ba-Ra]

I've told this story before but is worth repeating.

Before the car was invented there was a huge problem in cities removing the horse manure from the streets. More horses, more people - it got to the point you could hardly cross the street. Plus the attraction of flies spreading disease, etc. Then, seemingly out of nowhere, the automobile appeared and the problem that seemed insurmountable disappeared.

Releasing new technology might just have this same effect in what it costs to live. I remain cautiously hopeful.

[Calz]

I've told this story before but is worth repeating.

Before the car was invented there was a huge problem in cities removing the horse manure from the streets. More horses, more people - it got to the point you could hardly cross the street. Plus the attraction of flies spreading disease, etc. Then, seemingly out of nowhere, the automobile appeared and the problem that seemed insurmountable disappeared.

Releasing new technology might just have this same effect in what it costs to live. I remain cautiously hopeful.

Hi Ba-ba-Ra,

Alway enjoy your input.

At this juncture I think the only "cost" that bears witness is the cost to Gaia and the ecosystem (can't live without it eh?).

May be wrong but I fully expect Gaia will make that clear to us in the not too distant future.

[araucaria]

This stuff (Ben Fulford's reporting, the lawsuit, etc.) does intrigue me, but I'm just not seeing/feeling anything describing a planned paradigm shift away from human slavery and into abundance and freedom. I'm just seeing lots of zeroes and a battle between gangs at or near the top of the pyramid. Imagine all of this info being read aloud by the smarmy style and voice of Robin Leech. That's the way I'm hearing this.


Dennis

Well Dennis, I have been wondering for a long time what a major turnaround might look like, but these last few weeks, the whole thing has been coming into focus.

In a sense it is so childishly simple: those mulipliers of zeroes are finding out what zero really means in the real world!

:)

[Kindred]

You know what? The money doesn't matter. The financial 'settlements' don't matter. What these 'powers' say, doesn't matter.

What We, The People DO and Think, is All that that Truly Matters. Will We Re-align Our Views and Actions To What Truly Matters... Our Spiritual Development?

Truly Embracing and Understanding That We Are One.

Are these financial dealings going to enable humans to Truly 'Wake Up', and understand that Spiritual Development is what is Important, OR, are we just going to give a sigh of 'relief', and go on with our fascination with the physical and materialism, and 'kick the can down the road', until we have Another military, ecological, or financial 'crisis'?

Are we going to get Rid of All our major weapon and Monetary systems? Are we going to change over to a Full Free Energy System Without Monetary Control? Are the People and Countries of the World going to 'give up' totalitarianism and domination over each other? Can we make that leap to a Truly Civilized Society?

Time is growing shorter by the hour. We Either Wake Up and Truly SEE Who We Are and take the necessary Corrective Actions In Unison, or we will Fail.

In Unity and Peace

[Calz]

You know what? The money doesn't matter. The financial 'settlements' don't matter. What these 'powers' say, doesn't matter.

What Counts is, What We, The People DO and Think, is All that that Truly Matters. Will We Re-align Our Views and Actions To What Truly Matters...

Our Spiritual Development? Truly Embracing and Understanding That We Are One.

Are these financial dealings going to enable humans to Truly 'Wake Up', and understand that Spiritual Development is what is Important, OR, are we just going to give a sigh of 'relief', and go on with our fascination with the physical and materialism, and 'kick the can down the road', until we have Another military, ecological, or financial 'crisis'? Are we going to get Rid of All our major weapon systems? Are we going to change over to a Full Free Energy Economy? Are the People and Countries of the World going to 'give up' totalitarianism and domination over each other? Can we make that leap to a Truly Civilized Society?

Time is growing shorter by the hour. We Either Wake Up and Truly SEE Who We Are and take the necessary Corrective Actions In Unison, or we will Fail.

In Unity and Peace

Exactly.

Well said :thumb:

[aranuk]

I am so glad I saw this thread before I signed off.

This news sounds really great............. pause......contemplation........Mmmmmm, yet........ yet.......trying to think of the words.....we still have a huge amount of mess to clean up from all that has been going on in the shadows and prepare for what may be coming from our Sun. Also, I just wonder if what seems great news will be enough to push forward a halt to what is time bomb smouldering away with what the old ptw have been setting up e.g. war, famine and disease on a worldwide scale? Is this news finally going to open up enough transparency to allow humans to wake up beyond the mind control and think for themselves, freely evolve and learn their real galactic history of origins and divineness?

If it flows towards inspiring all of this, then this is a day of celebration and History in the making ......

But if it is just another moving the furniture around to another shadow power house, handing out a few carrots to get our hopes up, yet still supressing humanities divineness - then this is not such a cheery day.

I am open minded observing with fascination how this unfolds. I do so hope with all my heart that this is the start of great change for a liberated humanity and New Beginnings for All. :grouphug:

I have the image from Brave Heart of William Wallace shouting out "FREEDOM!!!!!"

Is this Time finally dawning?

May it be So, God Speed us all there. So Be It.

Sweet Dreams everyone!

I am not William Wallace but I am Scottish. What if I shout it for him eh? FREEDOM!!!!!!


Stan

[Cognitive Dissident]

This document is interesting, but is anyone seriously suggesting that it is actually real and signed off by those people? Especially given the number of confusing references, typos, etc? While the bonds may be genuine, that is quite a long way from having them cashed and the money sitting in a bank account...

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Ben Fulford is live on Controversial Tv - sky channel 200 tomorrow night (Tuesday) 10/1/12 at 8pm.
Host Theo (Chalmers) ONE STEP BEYOND

EdgeMedia Tv (http://www.edgemediatv.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4139)


can someone in the UK record it and youtube it please?

[aranuk]

Why?

Stan

[aranuk]

This document is interesting, but is anyone seriously suggesting that it is actually real and signed off by those people? Especially given the number of confusing references, typos, etc? While the bonds may be genuine, that is quite a long way from having them cashed and the money sitting in a bank account...

I don't think quintillions of cash are available in the world or in the universe for that matter. This is what caused the bother in the first place, the banksters creating money out of thin air. While the rest of humanities serfdom are slaves to the banks.

Stan

[aranuk]

The attached documents were sent by a source linked to Ferdinand Marcos and have been confirmed as genuine secret government documents.

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c647c53ef0167603cf250970b-800wi

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c647c53ef0168e53dc86e970c-800wi

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c647c53ef0162ff4807a3970d-800wi

Confirmed by whom Jack? What government are you referring to? I don't understand and what do the documents mean. What in fact are they? Does anyone know and if so could they please explain?
And what or who is the commitee of 300?
Stan

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

can someone in the UK record it and youtube it please?

I thought about it, but I don't have have a cable to copy from the box, plus I don't think Ian Crane & his copyright policy will like that very much.

Have you tried checking out part of their website to see for alternatives? EdgeMedia website (http://www.emtvonline.co.uk/home.php)

Maybe PA & Edge can come to a friendly arrangement also? EdgeMedia has some cracking alternative guests/whistleblowers on their station that folk outside of the UK are missing out on.

[GlassSteagallfan]

In a very major development, the Federal Reserve Board faction... ...promised to use any released funds for humanitarian projects...

Yeah, right.

At least we know what ISN'T going to happen.

[WhiteFeather]

Bargaining with these P/O/$hit shouldn't be an option here. Let them keep their (toilet paper monopoly money ) so they can spend it wisely on a different planet outside of this solar system. Let them be banned from this solar system infinitely, and if they set foot back in this solar system, they should receive the sentence of the death penalty, case closed. Let all Free Energy Devices Be Released Forthwith, Let all Suppressed Medical Technologies be released forthwith. Let the government be a holographic entity, and one that will be working with all global governments for world peace. I myself won't settle for anything less than this. These are my demands, So Be It.

[aranuk]

Bargaining with these P/O/$hit shouldn't be an option here. Let them keep their (toilet paper monopoly money ) so they can spend it wisely on a different planet outside of this solar system. Let them be banned from this solar system infinitely, and if they set foot back in this solar system, they should receive the sentence of the death penalty, case closed. Let all Free Energy Devices Be Released Forthwith, Let all Suppressed Medical Technologies be released forthwith. Let the government be a holographic entity, and one that will be working with all global governments for world peace. I myself won't settle for anything less than this. These are my demands, So Be It.

Hear hear Whitefeather. I agree and all polititians can never be elected ever. Scrutiny of potential candidates for election and approved by the people too.

Stan

[WhiteFeather]

Bargaining with these P/O/$hit shouldn't be an option here. Let them keep their (toilet paper monopoly money ) so they can spend it wisely on a different planet outside of this solar system. Let them be banned from this solar system infinitely, and if they set foot back in this solar system, they should receive the sentence of the death penalty, case closed. Let all Free Energy Devices Be Released Forthwith, Let all Suppressed Medical Technologies be released forthwith. Let the government be a holographic entity, and one that will be working with all global governments for world peace. I myself won't settle for anything less than this. These are my demands, So Be It.

Hear hear Whitefeather. I agree and all polititians can never be elected ever. Scrutiny of potential candidates for election and approved by the people too.

Stan

Sounds Good!

[aranuk]

I am trusting that Cal may come and explain things for me.

Stan

[modwiz]

In a very major development, the Federal Reserve Board faction... ...promised to use any released funds for humanitarian projects...

Yeah, right.

At least we know what ISN'T going to happen.

I agree. The Fed promising to do anything good is a very bad joke on decent people. They are genetically incapable of anything benevolent. It is the promise of a junkie promising to clean up if you only give them one more fix. I hope we are not the only ones who have enough understanding of parasitic alien behavior to know the Fed and their Rothschild connections are not part of humanity. They have been proving it for centuries.

They are an infection of the genome and need quarantine from the rest of humanity as a minimum of action.

[WhiteFeather]

In a very major development, the Federal Reserve Board faction... ...promised to use any released funds for humanitarian projects...

Yeah, right.

At least we know what ISN'T going to happen.

I agree. The Fed promising to do anything good is a very bad joke on decent people. They are genetically incapable of anything benevolent. It is the promise of a junkie promising to clean up if you only give them one more fix. I hope we are not the only ones who have enough understanding of parasitic alien behavior to know the Fed and their Rothschild connections are not part of humanity. They have been proving it for centuries.

They are an infection of the genome and need quarantine from the rest of humanity as a minimum of action.

Yes I Agree Modwiz, The quarantine of this infectious diseased society should be ousted to a different solar system, preferably on the direct opposite side of this Solar System, if you will.

[aranuk]

I am surprised this thread hasn't been inundated with comments. This is surprising to me really it iz. I'm very sure when Cal gets back he will regenerate interest again. I wonder what Bill thinks about all this now. I even wonder what Kerry thinks and David Wilcock, David Icke, Lord Sid, Randy sorry sir I forget your surname, James Martinez. Keep this thread going strong Avalonians please. It is so important I think. I mean let's face it Benny, David and James are saying very similar related things now. Let us see it through to the end?

Stan

[Revere]

I am keeping as positive of an attitude as possible. I meditate daily for a free and reformed world. (Check out the Global Intention Group) in the Group section here at Avalon. I am being realistic as well due to their horrible track record. But, I see something afoot in Global FI especially currency and comodities. What is it? Some sort of change stirring.

So I am with good old Hemmingway's sentiments in "The Sun Also Rises"

AND Human Intention is powerful stuff.


Peace,
"R"


SO

"Isn't it pretty to think so?"
- Chapter 19, The Sun Also Rises, Ernest Hemingway

[aranuk]

Do you mean the global financial news?

Stan

[Muzz]

Some more info on this. The 1st Jan radio show is worth a listen.

Achieve Radio Archive Vault playing Cash Flow from 2012-01-01–0000

http://www.achieveradio.com/archplayer.php?showname=Cash%20Flow%20with%20James%20Martinez&sn=66&ShowURL=http://audio.achieveradio.com/cash-flow/2012-01-01–0000—Cash_Flow.mp3 (http://www.achieveradio.com/archplayer.php?showname=Cash%20Flow%20with%20James%20Martinez&sn=66&ShowURL=http://audio.achieveradio.com/cash-flow/2012-01-01--0000---Cash_Flow.mp3)

Fascinated by his bombshell “announcement” on Conscious Media Network (CMN) yesterday, I today turned to James Martinez’s own website (Achieve Radio’s “Cash Flow” show) to see what details I could garner from his own website. Here is his show from January 1, 2012.

In addition to James’s “announcement” on CMN with Regina Meredith, CMN also had a January 1 full interview with James regarding his MAIN announcement that “cold fusion exists!” Also posted as CMN’s January 1 offering, there was also a new radio interview with James’s friend (and collaborator on many levels) Bob Neveritt, who also zeroed in the topic of cold fusion. Both of these guys have been working behind the scenes for many years to bring forth free energy and have been hinting for a couple of years now that they were close to an announcement.

THIS MAY BE IT! In other words, there may be NO conflict with Fulford/Wilcock’s story! Martinez’s “economy” may be part-and-parcel with the “free energy” portion of the “group of nations” allegedly backing a global humanitarian effort. In fact, it MAY be the same group….but approaching different aspects of the same roll-out. Fulford given the financial basis and Martinez approached for free-energy roll-out — both foundationally impacting the basis of any proposed economy re-set.

Martinez and group ARE ideal in many ways to act as presenters to the public the “technology” portion as few but they have explored the implications of how technology alters human consciousness, and how that in turn impacts completely what then happens in our physical world. The “Wednesday Group” on James Martinez’s “Cash Flow” show consists of these regular guests: Bob “Dobbs” Neveritt; Bob’s lovely “bride” Dr. Carolyn Dean; and “our non-physical” called “iON,” using the body(ies) (don’t ask) of “JW” for the transmission of “our” collective consciousness. Neveritt is an eloquent conveyor of his understanding of Marshall McLuhan’s profound insights and Bob’s encyclopaedic mind has informed many hundreds of hours exploring this topic on the Wednesday Cash Flow show over the past couple of years. And, if you a group planned to introduce intradimensional infinite energy sources to the world in a conscientious way, one would hope that they would carefully select “speaker” group that is well-versed in parallel-worlding! This is that group!

I feel that David Wilcock may be a bit premature in getting into a twist over a seeming copy of Fulford’s/His own story, although I can relate to his initial response. But I like and trust “Martinez et al.” I, for one, am looking forward to seeing how BOTH of these stories unfold and…dare I say, merge?

Exciting times, indeed!

source (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=226052)

[sandy]

What change do you see with this solution???

Everything continues to stay at the top of the pyramid!!

Problem>>>>>>masses have had enough>>>>>>>>reaction>>>>>>>masses are on the door step of revolution and evolution!!!

Solution>>>>>>>>>changes to the money system>>>>>>I don't think so :(

The only thing this solution will do is stop our evolution and create long term suffering for our children, their children and many generations to come>>>>>>>slavery will continue!!

[Ron Mauer Sr]

If the money stays at the top of the pyramid, without canceling debt of the 99%, then all we have is a new corrupt system of greed and control. Another game of slavery.

[PathWalker]

We are fooled again with the screens and smoke of drama. James Bond international espionage.

The solution is not trading one control structure with another.
If you read about the warring factions, it is a tug of power. No matter who is on the rope end, it is a grab for power and control.
As long as the power is based on scarcity and fear, as it is now. There will be no big change.

And according to Fulford power is about to change hands. So getting from fiat money to centralized gold, or even "better" world wide mining domination. Is not the change we want.
The change is self empowerment at the individual level. Free energy, free transportation and uncontrolled medical solutions.

I do not see the Asians nor the Americans promoting free energy. Decentralizing their power.

I am using spiritual values to test the information. You can do the same.
Identify: control and power, self serving and dualistic confrontation.

[PathWalker]

Yet the sunlight shine is an initial step for liberation.

[jackovesk]

Ever played 'Baseball' Benny..?

Batter, Batter, Batter....SaaaaWing Batter...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZyTLYl6lJw

You've been promising alot for many years with absolutely 'No' result..! NaDa..!

The amount of times you have gone up to bat believing your some kind of a suedo 'Babe Ruth' swinging at anything that moves, only to 'Strike Out' every time you step up to the plate...!

It's the bottom of the 9th, and your still 'Swinging at Innuendo' Ben, no wonder people are losing faith in your Message..?

However, not all is Bad News...Many are starting to look 'Deeper Within' to solve this problem and the 'Real Conscious Awakening' of Humanity is the only thing that will put an end to this 'Madness', happening albeit slowly but growing at a 'Rapid Rate' day by day - second by second..!

I have full confidence that 'Humanity' will (Prevail & Win) and (We Will) take our rightful place in the Universe as 'ONE'..!

The way it was always 'Meant To Be'..!

[WhiteFeather]

What change do you see with this solution???

Everything continues to stay at the top of the pyramid!!

Problem>>>>>>masses have had enough>>>>>>>>reaction>>>>>>>masses are on the door step of revolution and evolution!!!

Solution>>>>>>>>>changes to the money system>>>>>>I don't think so :(

The only thing this solution will do is stop our evolution and create long term suffering for our children, their children and many generations to come>>>>>>>slavery will continue!!

Sandy, you need to change your way of thinking, consciousness moves evolution forward. What we think we become.

[Zillah]

Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis 20120109:

The Feds have sued for peace and detailed settlement negotiations have begun

The 130-nation group that announced a new financial system through the Conscious Media Network on January 1st also contacted the White Dragon Society and said they will prove with action, and not words, that they represent extremely powerful interests. This writer initially, and apparently incorrectly, denounced the announcement as a psy-ops because this group was not identical to the 117 nation Monaco group previously reported about in this newsletter.

I wonder if David Wilcock, who announced that James Martinez's announcement was a hoax, will also post a retraction.

All I can say personally about the James Martinez statement is that (a) James is a good man, (b) he was not knowingly hoaxing anything, and (c) there was not enough information in his statement to make any early judgment about its authenticity.

If he announces a retraction, it should be soon - here's a small update from Wilcock today:

My major new expose and summary, FINANCIAL TYRANNY, will hopefully be published today.
The Word doc I’m composing it in is at 122 pages.
This is highly complex and intricate work — comparable to what I did with Source Field Investigations but on this very timely subject.
Nothing is being held back.
- David

[lightseeker]

Dennis Leahy I agree with you.

[Mitm]

The way I see this playing out, is that if everyones debt is wiped out, I think the greed of most the people of the planet, will just cause them to make the same mistakes all over again... I think the only way this can work is (as David Wilcock envisions) for everyone to have a kundalini awakening and only act out of love for their fellow Man, as they will definitely know that there is no seperation between them, and all thoughts will be of love and well-being.. I dont see this playing out any other way... (Anastasias vision seems to be that the kins domains, will sprout up and slowly people will gravitate to living the 'village lifestyle')... I think it has be a mass event, where everyone is 'woken up' or it just wont work in time... I guess there are many possible scenarios in the very near future... how about we list them... and their ramifications.... I guess worst case scenario is the Syria thing deteriorating into WW3.. others about the economy, the Euro, the Occupy movement... etc...

[Alie]

Oh Cal, what good news!!!!


Since I am a human-itarian project, I will be standing in line for a pair of shoes. Similar to these lovely red ones.




http://cdni.condenast.co.uk/240x360/s_v/SwarovskiDorothyShoes08_b.jpg


Thank you ;)

I so enjoy satirical humor. Thanks.

[wolf_rt]

Am i correct in assuming this quintillion dollars, is fiat money only, and not backed by actual assets?

if the money is 'freed' then its actual worth will be that of whatever actual assets are available to actually back said quintillion dollars? like 5-10%?

[David Hughes]

I like this Fulford guy.

Just looking at all them zeros shows how ridiculous the whole financial system has become. It badly needs a reboot.

[sandy]

My point exactly Whitefeather :)

Mother Earths evolution needs the consciousness of mankind to come together, yes one individual at a time but if the masses are all lulled or wooed into compliance and into the same scarcity paradigm versus an abundance paradgim then we remain divided on a conscious level, waylaying humanities evolution. Mother Earth will evolve with us or without us when she needs to but so wishes, I'm sure that we do it together.

It amazes me with all your consciousness that you would know what I need :)

[jp11]

Ok, I read all the way through and didn't see this from Kerry at PC
January 9, 2012 Updated

Chinese Year of the Water Dragon

..."The Water Dragon is reputed to be a great danger to persons in high places who have been part of a criminal conspiracy or a cover up of a criminal conspiracy because the Water Dragon can see through the veils that are maintianed to cover up criminal mis-conduct." -- unknown

Since was born in the Year of the Water Dragon... well this is Camelot need I say more?

Rumblings about the Dinar reval and the Global Settlements

We are hearing back channel chatter that the dinar is going through along with the global settlements... lots going on. No confirmation on this at this time: 3:53PM Pacific

I'm not sure how dinar ties in but I would guess someone can explain that to me...and it does seem relevant.

[araucaria]

What change do you see with this solution???

Everything continues to stay at the top of the pyramid!!

Problem>>>>>>masses have had enough>>>>>>>>reaction>>>>>>>masses are on the door step of revolution and evolution!!!

Solution>>>>>>>>>changes to the money system>>>>>>I don't think so :(

The only thing this solution will do is stop our evolution and create long term suffering for our children, their children and many generations to come>>>>>>>slavery will continue!!

Sandy, you need to change your way of thinking, consciousness moves evolution forward. What we think we become.

Whitefeather's right, Sandy: your argment is circular. If you present your case from the outset in terms of problem-reactiton-solution, we know in advance that your conclusion is going to be unsatisfactory.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

can someone in the UK record it and youtube it please?

I thought about it, but I don't have have a cable to copy from the box, plus I don't think Ian Crane & his copyright policy will like that very much.

Have you tried checking out part of their website to see for alternatives? EdgeMedia website (http://www.emtvonline.co.uk/home.php)

Maybe PA & Edge can come to a friendly arrangement also? EdgeMedia has some cracking alternative guests/whistleblowers on their station that folk outside of the UK are missing out on.

I used to watch it via sky but didnt want to give mursoch any more of my money so canncled sky. Im sure crane would not mind. He is all about the truth right? I bet hundreds will record it anyway. Im sure it will turn up.

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Why?

Stan

errr, because I want to watch it?

[charlesfrith]

Hello,

I live in Bangkok and sent the paperwork who used to work in corporate banking in Cambodia. His reply:

s for the document you sent through – the numbers look way too huge to be real. Shareholders at ACLEDA are also quite pucker – some Dutch social bank (or at least the time) and German NGO (DEG from memory..) – it’s a proper structured bank. Canadia Bank less so and CCB is a major Thai one – not that that would give much comfort….No one in their right mind would stash a billion let alone trillions of dollars in Cambodia. Its annual GDP is in the small billions so unless there’s a decimal point of place this all looks a bit rum I’m afraid. Sorry to put the brakes on your blog. If you think it’s worthy of further enquiry let me know. I don’t keep in touch with the business sector much now but could make some diplomatic enquiries…..

[iceni tribe]

can someone in the UK record it and youtube it please?

I thought about it, but I don't have have a cable to copy from the box, plus I don't think Ian Crane & his copyright policy will like that very much.

Have you tried checking out part of their website to see for alternatives? EdgeMedia website (http://www.emtvonline.co.uk/home.php)

Maybe PA & Edge can come to a friendly arrangement also? EdgeMedia has some cracking alternative guests/whistleblowers on their station that folk outside of the UK are missing out on.

I used to watch it via sky but didnt want to give mursoch any more of my money so canncled sky. Im sure crane would not mind. He is all about the truth right? I bet hundreds will record it anyway. Im sure it will turn up.

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Why?

Stan

errr, because I want to watch it?

hi eyes wide open

i believe the second part of the show tonight ( Benjamin Fulford and Miles Johnston ) can be viewed at 9 pm on the internet at a cost of £1.99.
to try and keep the station going they are trying the subscription route , same as red ice creations.


http://www.emtvonline.co.uk/subscribe/index.php

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

COOLIO! many thanks.

[Rollo]

By profession I am a graphic designer and looking at all three signatures only the signature of Robert Zoellick appears to be real or the most natural looking. The other two signatures in my opinion don't have characteristic of signature smoothly executed by hand - performed for many years. Signatures of Queen Elizabeth and Lars Thunell are written in much the same way, they resemble rather the signatures made by someone who tries to imitate them.

Please compare the following two examples of the signatures of Queen Elizabeth from 1954 and the second one more current from 2011(in visitors book). These signatures are very natural, especially the letter "E" shows that there is never a straight, vertical line in the upper curve. Other parts of the signature look different as well like letters: L, second E and H.
http://www.qinq.net/temp/elizabeth_signature.jpg

In the case that these signatures are real then their unnatural appearance is very suspicious.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hmmmm not sure Rollo ... my signature has completely changed over 30 years ... and that gap with queenie was 60 years ago ...

Anyway why would anyone want to forge this signature ... why? yes to substanciate the story but for what benefit??

Hey, perhaps I just want Bill to eat his hat ! ;-)

viking

[wolf_rt]

Those sigs look like they may have been done on a touch screen? like the ones the delivery guys use.

If you were going to forge the sigs, surely you would do a better job than that!
It would be almost imposable to do them that badly.. i could do better in P.S. in 5min.

[Rollo]

I don't want to speculate, why, how, who or for what benefit. Simply looking at them I see this abnormality. And I don't want Bill to eat his own hat eater. What I want is peace and life in harmony on this planet for all of us.

[Calz]

Hmmmm not sure Rollo ... my signature has completely changed over 30 years ... and that gap with queenie was 60 years ago ...

Anyway why would anyone want to forge this signature ... why? yes to substanciate the story but for what benefit??

Hey, perhaps I just want Bill to eat his hat ! ;-)

viking

I used to have impeccable handwriting ... you should see my scrawl when signing for the electronic credit card thingie :haha:

Anyhoo ... point taken. Signing documents from a position of "power" is another matter :nod:

Disappointed Wilcock didn't offer up his next rendition last night. That should prove quite interesting as we all try to connect the dots here.

[Mad Hatter]

Did anyone check out the bank fees and charges... (in exchange for a few keystrokes)

Not bad work if you can get it. :p

[humanalien]

Just bumping to keep this story alive
a little longer.

[aranuk]

bump too

Stan

[onawah]

I just saw on David Wilcock's Facebook page that his new article is due out today, and has already been posted on Fulford's blog. Does anyone have a subscription to that who can give us an update/

[jackovesk]

By profession I am a graphic designer and looking at all three signatures only the signature of Robert Zoellick appears to be real or the most natural looking. The other two signatures in my opinion don't have characteristic of signature smoothly executed by hand - performed for many years. Signatures of Queen Elizabeth and Lars Thunell are written in much the same way, they resemble rather the signatures made by someone who tries to imitate them.

Please compare the following two examples of the signatures of Queen Elizabeth from 1954 and the second one more current from 2011(in visitors book). These signatures are very natural, especially the letter "E" shows that there is never a straight, vertical line in the upper curve. Other parts of the signature look different as well like letters: L, second E and H.
http://www.qinq.net/temp/elizabeth_signature.jpg

In the case that these signatures are real then their unnatural appearance is very suspicious.

That's the 1st thing I looked at when I posted the document on page 1...

After doing a Google search the only signature that looked authentic was Robert Zoellick's in fact it is too good...

The only problem being it is identical to the one I found on Google...

http://www.havelshouseofhistory.com/Zoellick,%20Robert%20B%20signature.jpg
Signature Link through Google (http://www.havelshouseofhistory.com/Jewish%20Autographs%20ZO-ZZ.htm)

I refuse to live in false hope and Ben Fulford really needs to come up with the real goods...quick smart..!

Not to mention, signing one's name through the printed one (Not the 'Z' but the 'B') and if you look even closer the Zoellick signature is signed on 'EXACTLY' the same angle as the one I cut and pasted off Google...

Not smelling a Rat, no it STINKS of a Rat..!

For those of you who don't believe this is a 'FAKE' document, try signing your name 10 X in a row and I Guarantee you, not 1 will be 'EXACTLY' the same. Yet Robert Zoellick's Google & Document signature are 'IDENTICAL'...

You've been busted Benny Boy..!

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hey Jacko ...you know you are absolutely spot on...

After a little research this is what I found

http://www.havelshouseofhistory.com/Zoellick,%20Robert%20B%20signature.jpg

Exactly the same as on the docs !!!! near impossible to be totally identical...

Can you bloody believe it !!

Benjamin needs to answer this!

viking

[aranuk]

I just saw on David Wilcock's Facebook page that his new article is due out today, and has already been posted on Fulford's blog. Does anyone have a subscription to that who can give us an update/

I wonder why he didn't post it on his own site Divine Cosmos?

Stan

[Calz]

I just saw on David Wilcock's Facebook page that his new article is due out today, and has already been posted on Fulford's blog. Does anyone have a subscription to that who can give us an update/

I wonder why he didn't post it on his own site Divine Cosmos?

Stan

I was looking all night at work since his posts on west coast usa time usually come then.

It did not.

If it has appeared somewhere else ... I have no idea.

Busy minding other things. :)

[000]

Regarding the R.Z. signature, yes, it is a match, 99%. In photoshop when I overlaid the google sourced signature on top of the document signature, they matched but for a tiny bit of extra horizontal compression on the document version.

No need to be dramatic about it though. If you want to DO something; point it out to Fulford directly. Good research though, that is being vigilant and that is good :)

[aranuk]

Hey Jacko ...you know you are absolutely spot on...

After a little research this is what I found

http://www.havelshouseofhistory.com/Zoellick,%20Robert%20B%20signature.jpg

Exactly the same as on the docs !!!! near impossible to be totally identical...

Can you bloody believe it !!

Benjamin needs to answer this!

viking

I agree Viking, he needs to answer why this document was faked. If this document is faked then that is fraud. Isn't that a crime in most countries? Now if that is a fake how can anyone in the right mind believe a word he says?

Stan

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hey Jacko ...you know you are absolutely spot on...

After a little research this is what I found

http://www.havelshouseofhistory.com/Zoellick,%20Robert%20B%20signature.jpg

Exactly the same as on the docs !!!! near impossible to be totally identical...

Can you bloody believe it !!

Benjamin needs to answer this!

viking

I agree Viking, he needs to answer why this document was faked. If this document is faked then that is fraud. Isn't that a crime in most countries? Now if that is a fake how can anyone in the right mind believe a word he says?

Stan

As much as I want Nesara or whatever you want call this to manifest, it seems that the signed documents are questionable ... not sure if we can discount all this topic as hocus pocus though...lots of smoke going around and there must be a fire somewhere, surely ...

In the meantime I'll keep my thoughts on a postive note.

viking

[iceni tribe]

hi viking

Ive just put the very question to Theo who will be interviewing Ben in a hours time. 8pm ......i will keep you posted

[aranuk]

Hi Iceni where do I go to listen to Theo? Is that 8pm Greenwich mean time?

Stan

[Eric J (Viking)]

hi viking

Ive just put the very question to Theo who will be interviewing Ben in a hours time. 8pm ......i will keep you posted

Thanks Iceni ...almost forgot about that on 'Edge' ...

I'll watch with much interest ...

viking

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Hi Iceni where do I go to listen to Theo? Is that 8pm Greenwich mean time?

Stan

Channel 200 Edge (One step beyond) ... Sky

viking

[aranuk]

Is that on TV or can I watch it online on my laptop?

Stan

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hi Stan its on TV but you might find it on TV Catch up http://www.tvcatchup.com/ ...although not sure ...

Otherwise Sky channel 200 on TV ...

viking

[ViralSpiral]

Is that on TV or can I watch it online on my laptop?

Stan

You can buy a 48 hour access for 1.99, and watch on-line. Here (http://www.emtvonline.co.uk/home.php), and then click on the live EMTV live stream

[aranuk]

Thanks Guys

Stan

[marique3652]

Heres (http://lucas2012infos.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/ben-fulford-breaking-news-the-feds-have-sued-for-peace-and-detailed-settlement-negotiations-have-begun-9-january-2012/) the full report

Thanks for sharing the link. I just do not know what to make of Ben Fulford. He is definitely dramatic in his presentations! I have followed him for several years, and frankly I just do not know how to feel about him. I have to say that reading what he has to say always leaves me with my head spinning saying WHATTT did he say. He is definitely a force of reckoning and I just do not know in my mind after reading him whether he is the real deal or just a good and captivating writer with an overactive imagination. But I try to never miss anything he has to say and truly admire the panache that he presents his point of view with. I always take a wait and see on anything he says, but he is effective in making me want to delve deeper, which is not a bad thing. I do think he is on the right track with this one though, it resonates with me. I hope sincerely that things are moving forward.

[Carmody]

I'll play the contrarian, just for this second.....

My signature is never the same way twice - that is how you can tell it is mine. Even in the key parameters that people like to use for authentication. I'm multidexterous and this translates to me never really holding the pen the same exact way twice. There are patterns in it, but.... multiple variations are the norm. The queen is also getting old and will have different signature than she had in 1954. also, some people concentrate hard so their signatures always look the same.

Also, if the world bank prez was the issuing point, the original signatory, then it may have been done with an official 'stamp'. Which is not unusual when incredibly high numbers of documents need be signed by given individual on a day to day basis.


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All we know is one thing: You will never win a 'war' while sitting on your ass reading the equivalent of tabloid newspapers.

Stay on target. Don't stop and don't stop moving. If you want this mess to end, get your ass in gear and talk to the people around you. Like I do--that's how things change.

Whatever Benjamin says, hope it's true - but don't waste more time on it than it takes to read, stay on target, keep working YOUR space and YOUR corner.

Otherwise...nothing will happen....except..the monkey in your base physiological and psychology will keep resting and denying that it has to risk itself to get any change in this world. Your animal fears will continue to rule/control the formation of your intellectual base/thoughts.

[cellardoor]

Also, if the world bank prez was the issuing point, the original signatory, then it may have been done with an official 'stamp'. Which is not unusual when incredibly high numbers of documents need be signed by given individual on a day to day basis.




That's what I was thinking also.

[Rollo]

Hey Jacko ...you know you are absolutely spot on...

After a little research this is what I found

http://www.havelshouseofhistory.com/Zoellick,%20Robert%20B%20signature.jpg

Exactly the same as on the docs !!!! near impossible to be totally identical...

Can you bloody believe it !!

Benjamin needs to answer this!

viking

Ok, guys so it looks like three of them are fake now. I can't belive it!

[etm567]

We are fooled again with the screens and smoke of drama. James Bond international espionage.

The solution is not trading one control structure with another.
If you read about the warring factions, it is a tug of power. No matter who is on the rope end, it is a grab for power and control.
As long as the power is based on scarcity and fear, as it is now. There will be no big change.

And according to Fulford power is about to change hands. So getting from fiat money to centralized gold, or even "better" world wide mining domination. Is not the change we want.
The change is self empowerment at the individual level. Free energy, free transportation and uncontrolled medical solutions.

I do not see the Asians nor the Americans promoting free energy. Decentralizing their power.



Fulford keeps talking about changing to a meritocracy from whatever this is. His point is precisely to change the system so that the money does not stay at the top of the pyramid. So to say that what he is suggesting is to keep it this way just doesn't make any sense, at least not to me. From the very beginning, he has said that the money must be spent on providing people everywhere with everything that they need; that no one should be going without -- not without food, not without clothes, not without energy to keep warm. There is actually plenty on the planet for everyone to be comfortable.

The point being to spread it out, get it out of the banks and into the hands of the masses -- how can that be the same?

That is what he has always said, from his very first interview on Camelot. He went to the Japanese government and presented them with this idea, saying that they actually had enough money to cure the ills of the world, to clean everything up and make sure people had plenty to eat. And the point was that the Japanese government was being controlled by the Rockefeller interests, and thus could not do what they would like to do.

That's what this has all been about, all along.

ETM

[Revere]

On the signatures, I have had mine come out with those very “jerky” alterations when signing on a heavily grained surface under the document. Just an observation and you would think that they would sign on a smooth surface? Possibly it was a very old table? Or, a horribly done fake because It stood out the first time I looked at it.

In general, if this is real dynamic change for the better. It will not go quick. If it does, someone is behind the scene trying to consolidate power or manage a planned paradigm shift while the chance presents itself. If it is real change for the positive, it will go slow and their will be numerous attempts at getting things off track. If this is a smoke screen to divert attention, keep an eye out for other “big” news. Either way stay vigilant opportunity may rise for a positive shift to start and be fostered by all who are aware in any change scenario. If it’s a work of fiction for personal gain...SHAME ON YOU!


Peace,
“R”

[Kristin]

Rollo, Jack, Have I told you lately that I love you? Amen to AVALON!!! I think this information deserves it's own thread IMHO.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hey Jacko ...you know you are absolutely spot on...

After a little research this is what I found

http://www.havelshouseofhistory.com/Zoellick,%20Robert%20B%20signature.jpg

Exactly the same as on the docs !!!! near impossible to be totally identical...

Can you bloody believe it !!

Benjamin needs to answer this!

viking

Ok, guys so it looks like three of them are fake now. I can't belive it!

Just a thought ... you don't suppose Fulfords been set up ??

Have these documents just shown up and put into the pile to substanciate the story on the surface (does Fulfrod know about the source of the Docs?)

Then once we find they are not the real deal, Fulford's story loses credibility??

viking

[Kristin]

More then Fulford. Unfortunately Wilcock and Kerry are also going to have to respond to this. This is really something.
Worm

ps. Even IF the man uses a stamp for his signature, there would be varied amounts of inking in the stamped version. Has anyone seen any evidence that this could be true? So far they look like identical reproductions to me.

[wolf_rt]

If he's right, it going to happen with or without him.
If he's wrong why bother?

I'm assuming the stamp would be digital.
to me the other sigs lend credibility rather than detract from it. I could do queen'y sig better than that with about 3 attempts. and why not just lift one of the far better sigs from online?

Is the whole court case etc. also a fraud, just to make Fulford and Wilcock look like idiots?

[etm567]

You've been busted Benny Boy..!

It's certainly possible that you are right, and that these signatures were forged. But then it is of course also possible that the fraud took place before these documents came into the hands of Benjamin Fulford.

Why do you always want to point the finger at Ben, and not at any other point where fraud might have taken place?

You could be right that it is Ben. But there is not one iota of proof that, if this is fraud, it was carried out by Benjamin Fulford.

Personally, I am really, really curious about what the actual truth is. So I'm withholding judgment until that becomes more clear.

ETM
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[aranuk]

has anyone heard that interview with Benny and Theo yet? Anything of interest?

Stan

[etm567]

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Whatever Benjamin says, hope it's true - but don't waste more time on it than it takes to read, stay on target, keep working YOUR space and YOUR corner.

Otherwise...nothing will happen....except..the monkey in your base physiological and psychology will keep resting and denying that it has to risk itself to get any change in this world. Your animal fears will continue to rule/control the formation of your intellectual base/thoughts.

Thanks for that very apt observation.

[etm567]

More then Fulford. Unfortunately Wilcock and Kerry are also going to have to respond to this. This is really something.
Worm

ps. Even IF the man uses a stamp for his signature, there would be varied amounts of inking in the stamped version. Has anyone seen any evidence that this could be true? So far they look like identical reproductions to me.

You know, since none of us -- I think -- knows all the ins and outs of proving fraudulent signatures, this certainly warrants further investigation on the part of those concerned about it. But it hardly rises to the point of anyone "having to respond," as nothing has yet been proven.

Questions may be appropriate, or voicing one's concern. But if you go charging in and accuse people like Kerry Cassidy and/or Benjamin Fulford of forging signatures or of allowing deliberate fraud, you might just make yourself the butt of some humor.

Of course, I could be misreading what you're really saying?

ETM

[Kristin]

I'm happy to be and I am often the butt of humour. (After all, I believe in ET's) LOL, I hear your point though and yes you are misreading me. I do expect a response to this and I haven't accused anyone of anything except Jack and Rollo for being good investigators.

From the Heart,
Wormhole

Excuse me, EXCELLENT investigators.

[gripreaper]

Just so we are clear about whats going on?

the signatures are fake, the signatures are real...

the lawsuit is a hoax, the lawsuit is legitimate...

James Martinez is a psyop, James Martinez is legitimate...

the gold is in the hands of the bankster cabal, the gold is in the hands of the Asian dynasties...

America's expansion and the railroad was financed by European interests, the American expansion and the railroads were financed by Asian gold...the genocide of the indigenous cultures is not even a footnote.

The Asians got all of the worlds wealth by selling spices and silks to the ancient bloodlines who mined and preserved all of the gold, and now these global bankers are broke and are running out of money and are scared...

The criminals are about to be arrested any day now...

there's an organization of 130 (or is it 120?) nations who have banded together in opposition against the fiat banksters....

The organization is called the Monaco accord...no, it's something else we don't know yet and we need to wait several weeks for more info...

the criminals are asking for money and promise to do humanitarian things with it in exchange for amnesty...

The trustees for the Asian dynasties, are negotiating with the psychopaths as proxy for the wealthy Asian dynasties who want nothing but the best for all of mankind...

Global secret mercenary and Asian marshal arts ninja's wait at the ready to take out the global bankers at a moments notice, should negotiations fail, but there is fear that the backlash would be so severe, that an amicable settlement should be reached, so we should all remain patient.

Such backlash, as nuclear war, mass genocide, global pandemics, alien invasions, and such countermeasures should not be feared because the Galactic Federation of Light say they wont let any of this happen.

The amount of money we are talking here is in the quintragadzillions and no one is really sure how many zero's that is, but some estimate it translates into several million for each person on the planet, and should be distributed accordingly.

The new global financial system being proposed by the 130 nation alliance is going to be absolutely fantastic for all of the people on the planet, and is nothing like the existing system, but you need to stay tuned as the details are being worked out.

The US military is still uncertain as to whether they should back up such a coup because they are worried how they will get paid.

David Wilcock, according to sources, is in direct contact with those who "are in the know" and they are keeping him apprised of all of the latest developments in regards to the largest financial coup in the history of mankind...

In any event, all of the confusion should be cleared up shortly if you will just stay tuned and don't make any assumptions or draw any conclusions until all of the facts are in.

Now, you are up to speed and it should be clear to you.

[Jenci]

Just so we are clear about whats going on?

the signatures are fake, the signatures are real...

the lawsuit is a hoax, the lawsuit is legitimate...

James Martinez is a psyop, James Martinez is legitimate...

the gold is in the hands of the bankster cabal, the gold is in the hands of the Asian dynasties...

America's expansion and the railroad was financed by European interests, the American expansion and the railroads were financed by Asian gold...the genocide of the indigenous cultures is not even a footnote.

The Asians got all of the worlds wealth by selling spices and silks to the ancient bloodlines who mined and preserved all of the gold, and now these global bankers are broke and are running out of money and are scared...

The criminals are about to be arrested any day now...

there's an organization of 130 (or is it 120?) nations who have banded together in opposition against the fiat banksters....

The organization is called the Monaco accord...no, it's something else we don't know yet and we need to wait several weeks for more info...

the criminals are asking for money and promise to do humanitarian things with it in exchange for amnesty...

The trustees for the Asian dynasties, are negotiating with the psychopaths as proxy for the wealthy Asian dynasties who want nothing but the best for all of mankind...

Global secret mercenary and Asian marshal arts ninja's wait at the ready to take out the global bankers at a moments notice, should negotiations fail, but there is fear that the backlash would be so severe, that an amicable settlement should be reached, so we should all remain patient.

Such backlash, as nuclear war, mass genocide, global pandemics, alien invasions, and such countermeasures should not be feared because the Galactic Federation of Light say they wont let any of this happen.

David Wilcock, according to sources, is in direct contact with those who "are in the know" and they are keeping him apprised of all of the latest developments in regards to the largest financial coup in the history of mankind...

The amount of money we are talking here is in the quintragadzillions and no one is really sure how many zero's that is, but some estimate it translates into several million for each person on the planet, and should be distributed accordingly.

In any event, all of the confusion should be cleared up shortly if you will just stay tuned and don't make any assumptions or draw any conclusions until all of the facts are in.

Now, you are up to speed and it should be clear to you.


That's it!!

And it is only 10th day in 2012.

Jeanette

[Kristin]

Why exactly Gripreaper! And don't forget, that even though we have a publicly filed lawsuit here, our own alternative media (who are the only ones reporting on these issues) are keeping the blackout darker then Fox News reporting on Ron Paul. But we've been brainwashed to be patient with these things, so it shouldn't be an issue. I'd like to add that if the Dragon family files a lawsuit publicly that effects us all then they should be open for the press and answer questions till their faces turn blue. The same goes for the Other group.

From the Heart,
Wormhole

[Setras]

has anyone heard that interview with Benny and Theo yet? Anything of interest?

Stan

Nothing he hasnt said already, plus the usual edge drop outs and freezes.....

[jackovesk]

You've been busted Benny Boy..!

It's certainly possible that you are right, and that these signatures were forged. But then it is of course also possible that the fraud took place before these documents came into the hands of Benjamin Fulford.

Why do you always want to point the finger at Ben, and not at any other point where fraud might have taken place?

You could be right that it is Ben. But there is not one iota of proof that, if this is fraud, it was carried out by Benjamin Fulford.

Personally, I am really, really curious about what the actual truth is. So I'm withholding judgment until that becomes more clear.

ETM
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I was merely trying to investigate the 'Truth', Nothing more - Nothing less just the 'Truth'...

I myself have started a number of Ben Fulford Threads and I actually like him, but I have been constantly asking myself 1 Question of Ben, which often gets pushed aside due to his similar Anti-NWO view.


"If I think about it, what Substantiated 'Truth' has BF ever brought to the table over the years, I am trying to name just (1) thing he has said that can be Legitimately Confirmed or has come to Fruition..? Just (1)..?"

Ben is supposedly a 'Professional Journalist' and he published the Documents on his own site, therefore he is responsible for their authenticity.


Ben Fulford Quote: "The attached documents were sent by a source linked to Ferdinand Marcos and have been confirmed as genuine secret government documents."


Yet myself a layman quickly found descrepancies with these signatures when I posted the documents on page 1 of this thread, I was waiting to see if anyone else picked up the same anomalies before I shared my findings...

I also tried to research whether or not Queen Elisabeth II is really the Chairman of the Committee of 300, but could not verify it...

I find all to often some of my fellow 'Truthseekers' get caught up in possibilities rather than realities, or follow someone elses version of the 'Truth' not their own.

Having said that, like many I have been following his work for years and I too would like to believe his message...

But IMHO 2012 is not the Year for any kind of 'False Hope' it merely takes away your own Power of 'Creating Change' through Intention...

Why do I continually get hounded because I ask the tough questions...

I came here to get the 'Truth as I Know It' out to as many as I can, what's so wrong with that..?

Like anyone I may be wrong at times, but those that know me always know I am always coming from my own place of 'Truth' and I will always own up to any mistakes I have made along the way...

...and if I'm wrong, I will be the 1st to admit it.

Isn't that what we are all here for, the 'Truth'..?

[Seikou-Kishi]

Someone please PM me as soon as any of this actually translates into a positive (health and abundance) paradigm shift for humanity, and not just the richest of the rich trading piles of gold, dollars, and zeroes - among themselves.

Until then, I'll try to be quiet...

:~)

Dennis

Lol :lol:

Not quite as strong as Bill's pledge to eat his hat if Nesara ever came to pass ... but admirable nonetheless :)

Jokes aside ... *something* seems to be happening.

Those not on the inside will simply have to wait and see ... perhaps even those on the inside as well???

IMHO

But is that something "watch the right hand amaze you while the left steals from you"?

[Kristin]

Jackovesk, keep on keeping on. You're doing great work. It's important to shine the flashlight on both sides of any issue. You are doing an admirable job. Thank you.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[onawah]

Following is a quick note from David Wilcock which appeared on his blog today at:
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1022-lawsuit-end-tyranny-ii

The word on his Facebook page that the article would be on his webpage today was premature, evidently, though it was reported he did post something on Fulford's blog, though that will not be as detailed, apparently, as the version he is still working on.

UPDATE TUESDAY 1 / 10 / 12 -- ALMOST THERE

FINANCIAL TYRANNY is now up to 125 manuscript pages. This is my equivalent for "conspiracy theory" as Source Field Investigations was for consciousness science.

I think you all will be very pleased with it. I hate to work under this much time pressure. I have passed out three times in the last week from exhaustion, including one night where I woke up at 3:45 AM with the lights on and my clothes on, lying on my bed.

No measure of negative comments will be sufficient to force me to release this before it is right. It would be better if folks did not hold me to deadline expectations as this is far from an ordinary article. This is a quarter the size of SFI and equally as complex.

I have multiple groups working to save our planet who have very high hopes for the impact this will have. Some content was added by specific request. Please help spread the word far and wide as soon as it is released.

[gripreaper]

Not quite as strong as Bill's pledge to eat his hat if Nesara ever came to pass ... but admirable nonetheless :)

Bill said that? You know, Bill's hat has major notoriety in and of itself. I think he should put it up for auction, and I'll bet the proceeds from that alone could pay off the debt and put all things right in the world!

Oh, and by the way, I would pay to see that.

[Operator]

When money is mentioned in solutions to solve money problems I know I am wasting my time ...
Time to move on :p

[Seikou-Kishi]

This has to come out into the open. I do not care at all about the monetary system. I don't give a shiny *****. What annoys me is the control system. That's why it has to come out into the open to be a valid change in my opinion (for what that's worth). If they dictate from behind the scenes saying "OK, we'll get rid of fiat money and everybody's money will have actual worth from now on, but we don't have to go holding our hands up in confession" we will still have lost.

Oh, and I don't just mean 'the bad guys' here, I mean all secret societies, even those who apparently are working towards our good in one regard or another (I'm not sure I believe that). I do not want to be controlled; granted a good controller is better than a bad controller, but the freedom is conspicuous by its absence under both. Good and bad, they should admit their secret dealings and ask forgiveness of the world for the part they have played in their racket against mankind.

[firstlook]

This has to come out into the open. I do not care at all about the monetary system. I don't give a shiny *****. What annoys me is the control system. That's why it has to come out into the open to be a valid change in my opinion (for what that's worth). If they dictate from behind the scenes saying "OK, we'll get rid of fiat money and everybody's money will have actual worth from now on, but we don't have to go holding our hands up in confession" we will still have lost.

Oh, and I don't just mean 'the bad guys' here, I mean all secret societies, even those who apparently are working towards our good in one regard or another (I'm not sure I believe that). I do not want to be controlled; granted a good controller is better than a bad controller, but the freedom is conspicuous by its absence under both. Good and bad, they should admit their secret dealings and ask forgiveness of the world for the part they have played in their racket against mankind.

I disagree. I think people will look for control no matter how much freedom there is. But that doesn't mean this won't help evolve from survival mentality into something more efficient.

Your talking about something different. Peoples choice to free themselves from authority. Thats more Mental then economic.

[000]

The latest update today from DW's blog tacked on at the end of Part II:


UPDATE TUESDAY 1 / 10 / 12 -- ALMOST THERE

FINANCIAL TYRANNY is now up to 125 manuscript pages. This is my equivalent for "conspiracy theory" as Source Field Investigations was for consciousness science.

I think you all will be very pleased with it. I hate to work under this much time pressure. I have passed out three times in the last week from exhaustion, including one night where I woke up at 3:45 AM with the lights on and my clothes on, lying on my bed.

No measure of negative comments will be sufficient to force me to release this before it is right. It would be better if folks did not hold me to deadline expectations as this is far from an ordinary article. This is a quarter the size of SFI and equally as complex.

I have multiple groups working to save our planet who have very high hopes for the impact this will have. Some content was added by specific request. Please help spread the word far and wide as soon as it is released.


/EDIT

Oops, I did not see this had been posted already. *Taps wrist for not checking carefully*.

[modwiz]

Following is a quick note from David Wilcock which appeared on his blog today at:
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1022-lawsuit-end-tyranny-ii

The word on his Facebook page that the article would be on his webpage today was premature, evidently, though it was reported he did post something on Fulford's blog, though that will not be as detailed, apparently, as the version he is still working on.

UPDATE TUESDAY 1 / 10 / 12 -- ALMOST THERE

FINANCIAL TYRANNY is now up to 125 manuscript pages. This is my equivalent for "conspiracy theory" as Source Field Investigations was for consciousness science.

I think you all will be very pleased with it. I hate to work under this much time pressure. I have passed out three times in the last week from exhaustion, including one night where I woke up at 3:45 AM with the lights on and my clothes on, lying on my bed.

No measure of negative comments will be sufficient to force me to release this before it is right. It would be better if folks did not hold me to deadline expectations as this is far from an ordinary article. This is a quarter the size of SFI and equally as complex.

I have multiple groups working to save our planet who have very high hopes for the impact this will have. Some content was added by specific request. Please help spread the word far and wide as soon as it is released.

I like DW and think he works hard and gives us great information and ideascapes to work with. He is a treasure of our community, but he is such a drama queen. He will always be that way and I will always accept him for it. Just have to clear my energy field out though. Falling asleep with your clothes and light on?!?!?! OMG!

That said, thanks for your hard work David. I just have to say what I do for the ditch diggers and roofers of the world.

[Dennis Leahy]

Just so we are clear about whats going on?

the signatures are fake, the signatures are real...
...
Now, you are up to speed and it should be clear to you.
hehehehehehe that was a LLOL (literal laugh out loud) for me. Thanks, gripreaper!

p.s. If you do a second version of that, be sure to mention:

the D.U.M.B.'s were destroyed; the D.U.M.B.s are intact and crawling with camera shy reptoids.

Barack Obama is really a white hat, disguised as Ming the Merciless; Obama is the reincarnation of Ming the Merciless and enjoys drone bombing babies.

The release of free energy is "right around the corner"; the "corner" is at an intersection of two streets on Mars (where Barack Obama one visited.)

David Rockefeller and Evelyn De Rothschild are going to eat Bill's hat (lightly parched, with a lemon Béarnaise sauce); Bill's hat is going to eat David Rockefeller and Evelyn De Rothschild.

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Dennis

[Carmody]

Following is a quick note from David Wilcock which appeared on his blog today at:
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1022-lawsuit-end-tyranny-ii

The word on his Facebook page that the article would be on his webpage today was premature, evidently, though it was reported he did post something on Fulford's blog, though that will not be as detailed, apparently, as the version he is still working on.

UPDATE TUESDAY 1 / 10 / 12 -- ALMOST THERE

FINANCIAL TYRANNY is now up to 125 manuscript pages. This is my equivalent for "conspiracy theory" as Source Field Investigations was for consciousness science.

I think you all will be very pleased with it. I hate to work under this much time pressure. I have passed out three times in the last week from exhaustion, including one night where I woke up at 3:45 AM with the lights on and my clothes on, lying on my bed.

No measure of negative comments will be sufficient to force me to release this before it is right. It would be better if folks did not hold me to deadline expectations as this is far from an ordinary article. This is a quarter the size of SFI and equally as complex.

I have multiple groups working to save our planet who have very high hopes for the impact this will have. Some content was added by specific request. Please help spread the word far and wide as soon as it is released.

I like DW and think he works hard and gives us great information and ideascapes to work with. He is a treasure of our community, but he is such a drama queen. He will always be that way and I will always accept him for it. Just have to clear my energy field out though. Falling asleep with your clothes and light on?!?!?! OMG!

That said, thanks for your hard work David. I just have to say what I do for the ditch diggers and roofers of the world.

I slept in chairs for a few years.

A bit of the ole 'spoon dropping (http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/creative-thinkering/201107/salvador-dalis-creative-thinking-technique)' to some extent. That space between waking and sleeping where the subconscious/superconscious is connected to the conscious mind. Some call it hypnotic trance.

I'm so used to it that I can fall into it (most times) at the drop of a hat.

[gripreaper]

David Rockefeller and Evelyn De Rothschild are going to eat Bill's hat (lightly parched, with a lemon Béarnaise sauce); Bill's hat is going to eat David Rockefeller and Evelyn De Rothschild.[/COLOR][/FONT]

Dennis

ROFLMAO!! Dennis! Sure is nice to inject a little humorous and slightly irreverent satire once in awhile, isn't it?

[Calz]

I slept in chairs for a few years.

A bit of the ole 'spoon dropping (http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/creative-thinkering/201107/salvador-dalis-creative-thinking-technique)' to some extent. That space between waking and sleeping where the subconscious/superconscious is connected to the conscious mind. Some call it hypnotic trance.

I'm so used to it that I can fall into it (most times) at the drop of a hat.

Lol.

Try working the overnight shift for a few years. Sometimes it is *all* I can do to stay awake sitting in a chair (fully dressed of course) :lol:

[Rollo]

Rollo, Jack, Have I told you lately that I love you? Amen to AVALON!!! I think this information deserves it's own thread IMHO.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

I love you too:) kCYDMQHV9HI

[eva08]

On my wish list for our planet: And clean water, please, reseeding and replanting vegetation of deforested areas. Let's make this planet a beautiful lush garden; plenty of oxygen, fresh air, clean water, natural wild life.

[humanalien]

Bump for Benny

[gripreaper]

Just so we are clear about whats going on?

the signatures are fake, the signatures are real...
...
Now, you are up to speed and it should be clear to you.
hehehehehehe that was a LLOL (literal laugh out loud) for me. Thanks, gripreaper!

p.s. If you do a second version of that, be sure to mention:

the D.U.M.B.'s were destroyed; the D.U.M.B.s are intact and crawling with camera shy reptoids.

Barack Obama is really a white hat, disguised as Ming the Merciless; Obama is the reincarnation of Ming the Merciless and enjoys drone bombing babies.

The release of free energy is "right around the corner"; the "corner" is at an intersection of two streets on Mars (where Barack Obama one visited.)

David Rockefeller and Evelyn De Rothschild are going to eat Bill's hat (lightly parched, with a lemon Béarnaise sauce); Bill's hat is going to eat David Rockefeller and Evelyn De Rothschild.

12603 12604

Dennis

Actually Dennis, have you heard that some DNA was taken from Akenaten and that Obama is a clone? Come on buddy, you need to keep up with what's going on! He's the antichrist for crissakes!

http://www.esotericonline.net/profiles/blogs/barack-and-michelle-obama-king

[Calz]

Just so we are clear about whats going on?

the signatures are fake, the signatures are real...
...
Now, you are up to speed and it should be clear to you.
hehehehehehe that was a LLOL (literal laugh out loud) for me. Thanks, gripreaper!

p.s. If you do a second version of that, be sure to mention:

the D.U.M.B.'s were destroyed; the D.U.M.B.s are intact and crawling with camera shy reptoids.

Barack Obama is really a white hat, disguised as Ming the Merciless; Obama is the reincarnation of Ming the Merciless and enjoys drone bombing babies.

The release of free energy is "right around the corner"; the "corner" is at an intersection of two streets on Mars (where Barack Obama one visited.)

David Rockefeller and Evelyn De Rothschild are going to eat Bill's hat (lightly parched, with a lemon Béarnaise sauce); Bill's hat is going to eat David Rockefeller and Evelyn De Rothschild.

12603 12604

Dennis

Actually Dennis, have you heard that some DNA was taken from Akenaten and that Obama is a clone? Come on buddy, you need to keep up with what's going on! He's the antichrist for crissakes!

http://www.esotericonline.net/profiles/blogs/barack-and-michelle-obama-king

Yes yes yes ... gotta be true ... I have proof beyond the shadow of a doubt:


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[I would plaster my paypal information to receive all your support for this important and critical information at the vital juncture in our history ... but don't want to be banned]

[Dennis Leahy]

Actually Dennis, have you heard that some DNA was taken from Akenaten and that Obama is a clone? Come on buddy, you need to keep up with what's going on! He's the antichrist for crissakes!

http://www.esotericonline.net/profiles/blogs/barack-and-michelle-obama-king
I'm not quite sure that Obama is the antichrist. It is still possible he is the returning christ, just heavily undercover. My favorite charity is Doctors Without Borders / Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF.) They go anywhere and help anyone, including helping in war-torn regions around the world. So King Akhenaton, er, I mean Commander in Chief Obama, ordering drone strikes and killing and injuring thousands is working hand-in-hand with MSF. He is providing patients for them. So, christ or antichrist? - see, it's not so easy to determine.

(Oh, I think I may have crossed several lines with humor that dark.)

OK, let's try to segue this back on topic...


We are fooled again with the screens and smoke of drama. James Bond international espionage.

The solution is not trading one control structure with another.
If you read about the warring factions, it is a tug of power. No matter who is on the rope end, it is a grab for power and control.
As long as the power is based on scarcity and fear, as it is now. There will be no big change.

And according to Fulford power is about to change hands. So getting from fiat money to centralized gold, or even "better" world wide mining domination. Is not the change we want.
The change is self empowerment at the individual level. Free energy, free transportation and uncontrolled medical solutions.

I do not see the Asians nor the Americans promoting free energy. Decentralizing their power.

I am using spiritual values to test the information. You can do the same.
Identify: control and power, self serving and dualistic confrontation.

Let's assume this whole money/power war between factions of the Ruling Elite and the People Who Wish They Were The Ruling Elite is true, and that there will indeed be a major change in which gang rules the planet. Maybe it is all true, and Ben is genuinely excited to be taken seriously - but hasn't taken the time to see the big picture for what it is: a gangland scuffle. There may soon be new lords of the manor to deal with. They may be a lot nicer. They may even NESARAtize all of our bank accounts just to make Bill eat his hat. But examine even that concept (and this is something I thought about years ago): if you equally divided all of the world's wealth and property among all humans, how long do you think it would take the clever to have a giant pile and for the most foolish of the fools to have nothing?

Dividing wealth is not any ultimate answer - even with a drastic, metamorphic paradigm change in all monetary policies. Even then, many would blow through whatever they were allocated, and then what?

The gigantic paradigm change we crave is not about money; it has to be about a deep spiritual understanding of our connectedness, our oneness. This would have to be so evident to everyone that just like our hand reaches down to scratch an itch on our foot, every segment of humanity would be incapable of acting without compassion toward the rest of humanity. If anyone is thirsty, we are thirsty. If anyone is cold, we are cold. If anyone is hungry, we all feel hunger. And all of humanity will reach out our hand to slake the thirst, provide warmth, and fill the belly.

Unless the next gang that takes over the running of the world's finances recognizes what I just described, and (upon wresting control from the current Dark Cabal) immediately relinquishes control of all money and power, instituting control of humanity by humanity, well, we just shuffled the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Ben, if you're right, let's hope the White Dragons are the reincarnated embodiment of ascended spiritual masters and are here to usher in the age of abundance.

Dennis

[jackovesk]

Heres (http://lucas2012infos.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/ben-fulford-breaking-news-the-feds-have-sued-for-peace-and-detailed-settlement-negotiations-have-begun-9-january-2012/) the full report

Ben Fulford Quote:


Some secret government files signed by Queen Elizabeth on behalf of the committee of 300 have also been sent to this writer and confirmed by BIS linked sources as genuine. They will be posted on this writer’s free blog as well for everybody to see. Note the astronomical numbers and the mention of a Chinese Red Dragon. The person who sent these files is connected to former Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos. Marcos was one of the many prominent victims of the owners of the Fed.

Thanks for that Ben, now I'd like to introduce you all to the real former Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos..!


Ferdinand Emmanuel Edralin Marcos, Sr. (September 11, 1917 – September 28, 1989), was a Filipino dictator who held the title of President of the Philippines from 1965 to 1986. He was a lawyer, member of the Philippine House of Representatives (1949–1959) and a member of the Philippine Senate (1959–1965). He was Senate President from 1963–1965.

http://wapedia.mobi/thumb/25d7510/en/fixed/108/150/Ferdinand_Marcos_at_the_White_House.jpg?format=jpg
10th President of the Philippines

While in power he implemented wide-ranging programs of infrastructure development and economic reform. However, his administration was marred by massive authoritarian corruption, despotism, nepotism, political repression, and human rights violations.

In 1983, his government was accused of being involved in the assassination of his primary political opponent, Benigno Aquino, Jr. Public outrage over the assassination served as the catalyst for the People Power Revolution in February 1986 that led to his removal from power and eventual exile in Hawaii. It was later discovered that he and his wife Imelda Marcos had moved billions of dollars of embezzled public funds to the United States, Switzerland, and other countries, as well as into alleged corporations during his 20 years in power.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Ferdinand_Marcos

PS - Am I missing something here..??? Anyone..???

Don't even get me started on the (BIS) Bank of International Settelments..!

If you want to research that, put 'John Perkins' (Economic Hitman) name into a You Tube search and he will tell you all about them..!

[jackovesk]

http://lucas2012infos.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/benjamin_fulford_3.jpg?w=500

01/14/2012

Knowledge


Many people involved at the high end of the financial system and members of the committee of 300 are telling me the documents I posted with Queen Elizabeth's signature on them are forgeries by Wilfredo Sauren. Other sources also involved at a high level tell me they are genuine. I do not know, but even if they are forgeries, forgeries are usually copies of something real. Even if they are fake, there is still a huge gap between the amount of money that supposedly exists in the off-ledger financial system and the amount that is on the books. That means a lot of zeros will have to be erased before the off-ledger and on-ledger financial systems can be reconciled and reconnected with the real world.

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

http://www.qinq.net/temp/elizabeth_signature.jpg


Robert Zoellick's Identical Signature 'Cut & Pasted' from Google...
http://www.havelshouseofhistory.com/Zoellick,%20Robert%20B%20signature.jpg
Signature Link through Google (http://www.havelshouseofhistory.com/Jewish%20Autographs%20ZO-ZZ.htm)

PS - (Too Much) "DoubleSpeak" again Ben, why would any Self-Respecting Journalist publish clearly 'Forged Documents' to start with..?


Many people involved at the high end of the financial system and members of the committee of 300 are telling me the documents I posted with Queen Elizabeth's signature on them are forgeries.

They are not the only ones, Ben..!

IMHO, your 'Game of Cat & Mouse Charades' is almost (ALL Over)..!

[andrewgreen]

Some of the things hes posted in the past have been so ridiculous that it completely discredits what anything he may say in the future. I'm convinced he has an agenda different to world peace and part of that may be false hope he is spreading.

[wolf_rt]

All i can say, is IF these documents are forgeries, then Wilfredo Sauren must really, REALLY suck at photoshop...

[wolf_rt]

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q117/wolf_rt/elizabeth_signaturepsed.jpg


There... thats better... should we send ben a copy?

[Kristin]

I had no idea that you were in the committee 300 Jack! LOL, Im putting this one to rest now. There is nothing left for him to discuss IMHO. Fraud is fraud.
From the Heart,
Wormhole

[wolf_rt]

Is everyone saying this is a forgery based solely on the signatures?

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

Are they forgeries?
Again the issue of the signature of the corporate title of Queen Alexandra Elizabeth Mary is crossed out & replaced with the human name of Elizabeth R. Is this important? Much more than folk would believe.

[wolf_rt]

why is that important?

I'm not sure what you're implying, the document is invalid? Everything she has ever signed is invalid? after all that is her signature... and her title isn't even crossed out?

if that stroke wasnt part of her signature, then i could see your point. (though i still cant see what the implications of that would be)

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

why is that important?

I'm not sure what you're implying, the document is invalid? Everything she has ever signed is invalid? after all that is her signature... and her title isn't even crossed out?

if that stroke wasnt part of her signature, then i could see your point. (though i still cant see what the implications of that would be)

This will help all to know the difference between a PURPOSE & human. It matters more than folk think, for it is basically the foundation of our society. Without knowing the difference folk will never break their bondages.


jlOUXWQP-KM

Birth Certificate: The Difference Between A Man And A Person (http://cromalternativemoney.org/index.php/en/media/news/birth-certificate-the-difference-between-a-man-and-a-person.html)

John Harris (http://www.tpuc.org/node/558)

[wolf_rt]

I watched the video you posted in the other thread...Its good information...but it didn't mention signatures, or what it would mean if you crossed out your title with your signature...
I fully understand the difference between a man and a person... I just have no idea how any of that applies to this situation, or what you are trying to say?

[jackovesk]

Is everyone saying this is a forgery based solely on the signatures?

No, there is a little more to it than that...


Heres (http://lucas2012infos.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/ben-fulford-breaking-news-the-feds-have-sued-for-peace-and-detailed-settlement-negotiations-have-begun-9-january-2012/) the full report

Ben Fulford Quote:


Some secret government files signed by Queen Elizabeth on behalf of the committee of 300 have also been sent to this writer and confirmed by BIS linked sources as genuine. They will be posted on this writer’s free blog as well for everybody to see. Note the astronomical numbers and the mention of a Chinese Red Dragon. The person who sent these files is connected to former Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos. Marcos was one of the many prominent victims of the owners of the Fed.

Thanks for that Ben, now I'd like to introduce you all to the real former Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos..!


Ferdinand Emmanuel Edralin Marcos, Sr. (September 11, 1917 – September 28, 1989), was a Filipino dictator who held the title of President of the Philippines from 1965 to 1986. He was a lawyer, member of the Philippine House of Representatives (1949–1959) and a member of the Philippine Senate (1959–1965). He was Senate President from 1963–1965.

http://wapedia.mobi/thumb/25d7510/en/fixed/108/150/Ferdinand_Marcos_at_the_White_House.jpg?format=jpg
10th President of the Philippines

While in power he implemented wide-ranging programs of infrastructure development and economic reform. However, his administration was marred by massive authoritarian corruption, despotism, nepotism, political repression, and human rights violations.

In 1983, his government was accused of being involved in the assassination of his primary political opponent, Benigno Aquino, Jr. Public outrage over the assassination served as the catalyst for the People Power Revolution in February 1986 that led to his removal from power and eventual exile in Hawaii. It was later discovered that he and his wife Imelda Marcos had moved billions of dollars of embezzled public funds to the United States, Switzerland, and other countries, as well as into alleged corporations during his 20 years in power.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Ferdinand_Marcos

PS - Don't even get me started on the (BIS) Bank of International Settelments..!

If you want to research that, put 'John Perkins' (Economic Hitman) name into a You Tube search and he will tell you all about them..!

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

I watched the video you posted in the other thread...Its good information...but it didn't mention signatures, or what it would mean if you crossed out your title with your signature...
I fully understand the difference between a man and a person... I just have no idea how any of that applies to this situation, or what you are trying to say?

Hi
It does mention about signatures. The who video is about the corporate PURSON title against the human. Lizzie crossed out the corporate title & replaced it with her human title. They are two different entities.

[Calz]

New update (public portion) does not really offer anything new or dramatic.

_____________


01/17/2012

Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis 20120117: The Old World Order wants to surrender but to the people, not to the New World Order

The negotiations on a new financial system for the planet are proceeding well but due to the complexity of the situation, it will take time before any public announcements are possible, according to sources close to the negotiations. The current owners of the Federal Reserve Board System and the Washington D.C. corporate government are hoping to offer enough reforms that they can stay in power. Their money has been frozen, though, by a group that would rather see them all put in jail. The final solution to the problem will need to involve an audit of the real world and the removal of all fraudulent funds from the system. It will also involve a massive redistribution of wealth, meaning that the American people and other worldwide victims of the cabal will get their stolen funds returned to them.

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

[Taurean]

Here's the rest of it from Fulford's latest, 16/01/12 ;-

" The negotiations on a new financial system for the planet are proceeding well but due to the complexity of the situation, it will take time before any public announcements are possible, according to sources close to the negotiations. The current owners of the Federal Reserve Board System and the Washington D.C. corporate government are hoping to offer enough reforms that they can stay in power. Their money has been frozen, though, by a group that would rather see them all put in jail. The final solution to the problem will need to involve an audit of the real world and the removal of all fraudulent funds from the system. It will also involve a massive redistribution of wealth, meaning that the American people and other worldwide victims of the cabal will get their stolen funds returned to them.
The owners of the Washington D.C. Corporation have already decided on Mitt Romney as the new President of the United States. They have been rigging opinion polls and primary results to make sure their decision is enforced. The corporate media propaganda machine is also in on the decision. The Asian creditors to the Western nations do not interfere in the politics of other countries so they will take no stand on this issue. They say this is an internal matter for the American people to resolve on their own.
The future of the U.S. dollar is also now being debated. The current proposal being put forward by White Dragon Foundation representatives is that the United States government will need to issue Treasury dollars controlled by the elected representatives of the United States Government. These new treasury dollars will have to be separated from the international dollars now in circulation and devalued. The reason for this is that 90% of the dollars ever created are not owned by Americans. The interests of those dollar holders and the interests of the American economy are not the same. They do not want those dollars, which they use to trade with each other, to lose half their value.
If the Americans insist on continuing to use international dollars as their currency, then they will have to wait until US wages fall to Chinese levels before the US economy will once again become competitive. Until that time, the Chinese will take increasing ownership of the United States.
If the US does issue treasury dollars and devalues them by about 50% this is what will happen: First of all, all that Chinese stuff in Wall-Mart will double in price overnight. That is the tough part. The good part is that there will be a huge investment boom in the United States because the US will once again be a competitive exporter. Americans will also start buying more made in America products, creating real jobs and real wealth for the American people. There will also be lots and lots of free spending foreign tourists flooding in, also creating real jobs for real Americans.
There will also have to be a one-time write-off of most of the US debt to the rest of the world. The Americans are hoping to accomplish this by delivering physical gold they control in various locations.
For the United States to get rid of its structural trade deficit, however, the military-industrial complex will have to stop relying of foreigners to finance it. That means retooling it from a machine dedicated to invasion and pillage into something constructive, defensive and welcomed by the peoples of the planet as a beneficial institution.
For example, the White Dragon Foundation is proposing that the Japanese people continue to finance the US 7th fleet and turn it into an institution dedicated to exploring and enhancing the Ocean’s eco-systems.
They would dedicate themselves to going where no man has gone before a la Starship Enterprise. Fighting pirates and stuff like that would be a side job.
There is also going to have to be very thorough disclosure through a South African style truth and reconciliation committee. The pharmaceutical industry, for example, will have to come clean about how they were creating and spreading disease and infertility drugs as a part of a depopulation agenda on the part of the cabal. The petroleum industry will have to admit they have retarded human progress by 100 years by suppressing new energy technology.
The pharmaceutical industry can then change its business model from one that profits from disease and death into one that makes its money by increasing health, longevity and by creating new drugs to enhance human ability and enjoyment of life. The petroleum industry will be able to capitalize on its ability to carry out giant infrastructure projects to do things like turn the deserts green and create tropical year round resorts around Northern Canadian lakes.
The military industrial complex will also have to come clean about all the secret projects they have been carrying out. This will mean opening area 51 and other secret bases to public tours for American citizens.
Most of all it will mean releasing in a safe and responsible manner most of the 6000 or so patents that have been suppressed for “national security reasons.” A new era will begin "

[gripreaper]

Boy, sure sound rosy and peachy and sublimely wondrous, doesn't it?

All that has to happen is for the murderous, egocentric, narcissistic, nefarious, maniacal, self centered, pompous, self indulgent, fear mongering, pathological, psychotic, psychopathic, sociopathic elite bloodline banksters to acquiesce!

[Calz]

Boy, sure sound rosy and peachy and sublimely wondrous, doesn't it?

All that has to happen is for the murderous, egocentric, narcissistic, nefarious, maniacal, self centered, pompous, self indulgent, fear mongering, pathological, psychotic, psychopathic, sociopathic elite bloodline banksters to acquiesce!

Ummm ... yes I think that sums it up nicely :smokin:

[ViralSpiral]

The pharmaceutical industry, for example, will have to come clean about how they were creating and spreading disease and infertility drugs as a part of a depopulation agenda on the part of the cabal. The petroleum industry will have to admit they have retarded human progress by 100 years by suppressing new energy technology.




Thanks for the report. More than UFO's-out-there, I think that these perpetual lies is what will drive people over the edge, as it affects one personally.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9r50I6iFHwc/Trgvv0nmQxI/AAAAAAAAAPE/9zGa2s723z4/s1600/DominoesFalling.gif




SHAME ON THEM!!!!!

[Jenci]

The current owners of the Federal Reserve Board System and the Washington D.C. corporate government are hoping to offer enough reforms that they can stay in power. Their money has been frozen, though, by a group that would rather see them all put in jail.

So the Federal Reserve and the Washington government have had their money frozen. Really ????
Jeanette

[Eric J (Viking)]

Benjamin Fulford 1-17-12…”The Old World Order wants to surrender but to the people, not to the New World Order”

Highlights

The negotiations on a new financial system for the planet are proceeding well but due to the complexity of the situation, it will take time before any public announcements are possible…
The final solution to the problem will need to involve an audit of the real world and the removal of all fraudulent funds from the system.
The owners of the Washington D.C. Corporation have already decided on Mitt Romney as the new President of the United States.
The future of the U.S. dollar is also now being debated.
If the US does issue treasury dollars and devalues them by about 50% this is what will happen: First of all, all that Chinese stuff in Wall-Mart will double in price overnight.
There will also have to be a one-time write-off of most of the US debt to the rest of the world.
…the White Dragon Foundation is proposing that the Japanese people continue to finance the US 7th fleet and turn it into an institution dedicated to exploring and enhancing the Ocean’s eco-systems.
There is also going to have to be very thorough disclosure through a South African style truth and reconciliation committee.
Most of all it will mean releasing in a safe and responsible manner most of the 6000 or so patents that have been suppressed for “national security reasons.”

full read here
http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/benjamin-fulford-1-17-12-the-old-world-order-wants-to-surrender-but-to-the-people-not-to-the-new-world-order/

viking

[Lost Soul]

I am guardedly skeptical of what Fulford says. However, 50% writeoff would be a bargain.

[modwiz]

I am all for emptying Wash. DC and distributing the filth into the various FEMA camps around the country. Spirit knows, that's what they were built for.

[CeltMan]

FULL REPORT HERE:

[Forum Post: The Old World Order Wants To Surrender But To The People, Not To The New World Order

Posted 9 hours ago on Jan. 16, 2012, 10:23 p.m. EST by truth2012 (2)
This content is user submitted and not an official statement

Taken from:

http://benjaminfulford.net/

The Old World Order Wants To Surrender But To The People, Not To The New World Order

Posted by benjamin fulford January 17, 2012

The negotiations on a new financial system for the planet are proceeding well but due to the complexity of the situation, it will take time before any public announcements are possible, according to sources close to the negotiations. The current owners of the Federal Reserve Board System and the Washington D.C. corporate government are hoping to offer enough reforms that they can stay in power. Their money has been frozen, though, by a group that would rather see them all put in jail. The final solution to the problem will need to involve an audit of the real world and the removal of all fraudulent funds from the system. It will also involve a massive redistribution of wealth, meaning that the American people and other worldwide victims of the cabal will get their stolen funds returned to them.

The owners of the Washington D.C. Corporation have already decided on Mitt Romney as the new President of the United States. They have been rigging opinion polls and primary results to make sure their decision is enforced. The corporate media propaganda machine is also in on the decision. The Asian creditors to the Western nations do not interfere in the politics of other countries so they will take no stand on this issue. They say this is an internal matter for the American people to resolve on their own.

The future of the U.S. dollar is also now being debated. The current proposal being put forward by White Dragon Foundation representatives is that the United States government will need to issue Treasury dollars controlled by the elected representatives of the United States Government. These new treasury dollars will have to be separated from the international dollars now in circulation and devalued. The reason for this is that 90% of the dollars ever created are not owned by Americans. The interests of those dollar holders and the interests of the American economy are not the same. They do not want those dollars, which they use to trade with each other, to lose half their value.

If the Americans insist on continuing to use international dollars as their currency, then they will have to wait until US wages fall to Chinese levels before the US economy will once again become competitive. Until that time, the Chinese will take increasing ownership of the United States.

If the US does issue treasury dollars and devalues them by about 50% this is what will happen: First of all, all that Chinese stuff in Wall-Mart will double in price overnight. That is the tough part. The good part is that there will be a huge investment boom in the United States because the US will once again be a competitive exporter. Americans will also start buying more made in America products, creating real jobs and real wealth for the American people. There will also be lots and lots of free spending foreign tourists flooding in, also creating real jobs for real Americans.

There will also have to be a one-time write-off of most of the US debt to the rest of the world. The Americans are hoping to accomplish this by delivering physical gold they control in various locations.

For the United States to get rid of its structural trade deficit, however, the military-industrial complex will have to stop relying of foreigners to finance it. That means retooling it from a machine dedicated to invasion and pillage into something constructive, defensive and welcomed by the peoples of the planet as a beneficial institution.

For example, the White Dragon Foundation is proposing that the Japanese people continue to finance the US 7th fleet and turn it into an institution dedicated to exploring and enhancing the Ocean’s eco-systems.

They would dedicate themselves to going where no man has gone before a la Starship Enterprise. Fighting pirates and stuff like that would be a side job.

There is also going to have to be very thorough disclosure through a South African style truth and reconciliation committee. The pharmaceutical industry, for example, will have to come clean about how they were creating and spreading disease and infertility drugs as a part of a depopulation agenda on the part of the cabal. The petroleum industry will have to admit they have retarded human progress by 100 years by suppressing new energy technology.

The pharmaceutical industry can then change its business model from one that profits from disease and death into one that makes its money by increasing health, longevity and by creating new drugs to enhance human ability and enjoyment of life. The petroleum industry will be able to capitalize on its ability to carry out giant infrastructure projects to do things like turn the deserts green and create tropical year round resorts around Northern Canadian lakes.

The military industrial complex will also have to come clean about all the secret projects they have been carrying out. This will mean opening area 51 and other secret bases to public tours for American citizens.

Most of all it will mean releasing in a safe and responsible manner most of the 6000 or so patents that have been suppressed for “national security reasons.” A new era will begin. ]

[Erich]

Mr. Fulford's writing has lost much of that fait accompli and reads more like a news report from BBC, et. al.

[S-L]

It's so difficult to take this guy seriously, in spite of all the things that have happened with the lawsuit, etc. Always an entertaining read, however.

[hectorlca]

This entire "treasury dollar" business doesn't click with me at all for some reason. I'm an economist by training and there are much more important things happening. I feel we're not headed to a new financial system with new 'fair' currencies, but more to a cooperation based economy where money is not the medium of trade. Voluntary and free effort will be the norm by which we carry out our daily lives. I think Benjamin, even though he talks about 6000 patents, does not fully realize that it will completely transform the way economies work. In essence, the energy cost of EVERYTHING will be erased and true abundance will be here.

Imagine crops where diesel to fuel tractors is no longer needed, where fertilizers are petroleum free and more efficient, where the transport cost of everything goes down to zero. Then everything could be considered local and we can move into a truly global marketplace, where everything produced in the world is availabe to everyone in the world. For a fraction of what it costs now.

I'm hopeful.

[aranuk]

I wish.

Stan

¤=[Post Update]=¤

If the old world order wants to surrender to the people why then do they want Mitt Romney to be president? If they really wanted that then they would want to put Ron Paul in as president surely?

Stan

[Beren]

It sound to me as same old thing though with another sheet of fun paper.
Nothing will change for good until this old system is utterly abandoned.

Sorry Dragons, be it white, red or yellow , where were you been all this time?
Hiding in your den sucking the world 's energy...

You will also go to the recycle bin as well as ones you are " against" for.

[crested-duck]

Do not be foolish and buy into false hope. I'll have to see it happen to believe it is truth. After following this clown Fulford for quite a while, a couple things become clearer to see. first -DW and BF are two of a kind. second- they both prey on the human condition called false hope. They are both horse and buggy operators holding carrots on a stick and string ,to make the human horses run for their benefit. My question is- do you want to be a ignorant horse, or a educated human?

[alienHunter]

This is just my opinion, of course, but I really don't see where Ron Paul fits into any formula that requires 'world' cooperation. The man can't see beyond his nose!

I wish.

Stan

¤=[Post Update]=¤

If the old world order wants to surrender to the people why then do they want Mitt Romney to be president? If they really wanted that then they would want to put Ron Paul in as president surely?

Stan

[aranuk]

yeah maybe.

Stan

[apokalypse]

first time when i hear this guy mention chinese asian secret society i got red flag for him after gave a deep thought on his material. after reading this i'm feel like what i feel for the last few months that both are different group but control by the same higher level of people.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

This is just my opinion, of course, but I really don't see where Ron Paul fits into any formula that requires 'world' cooperation. The man can't see beyond his nose!

I wish.

Stan

¤=[Post Update]=¤

If the old world order wants to surrender to the people why then do they want Mitt Romney to be president? If they really wanted that then they would want to put Ron Paul in as president surely?

Stan

Wow what a ridiculous statement alien hunter. You're right obama's the one for the job! (Sarcasm).

[Jenci]

I wish.

Stan

¤=[Post Update]=¤

If the old world order wants to surrender to the people why then do they want Mitt Romney to be president? If they really wanted that then they would want to put Ron Paul in as president surely?

Stan

LOL, Stan. Good point. I suspect information is being put in this to both give it credibilty and destroy it at the same time. Result is confusion which is exactly where they want us.

I think this game is going to go on for a while yet.....
Jeanette

[jcocks]

I agree... But the important thing is that it would seem that the PTW really are fighting for their proverbial lives.... They now seem to be clutching at straws to remain relevant. And my gut tells me that I'm right in saying that. All the rest is really fluff - this train is now travelling express to its' destination, is stopping for NO-ONE, and we all know where that destination lies :)

[jcocks]

This is just my opinion, of course, but I really don't see where Ron Paul fits into any formula that requires 'world' cooperation. The man can't see beyond his nose!

I wish.

Stan

¤=[Post Update]=¤

If the old world order wants to surrender to the people why then do they want Mitt Romney to be president? If they really wanted that then they would want to put Ron Paul in as president surely?

Stan

Wow what a ridiculous statement. You're right obama's the one for the job! (Sarcasm).

A question for you :

How do you think Obama would go at being president of the USA if he was left to his own devices to govern, and was not made to do the bidding of his masters - the only things he had to answer to for making his decisions was his conscience and the American people?

[alienHunter]

Hello my old friend,

Principles may seem easy to cling to when there is no extant framework for comparative thinking. That doesn't make him a bad person by default...just a very limited one. In all seriousness, if an individual doesn't 'morph' over a 30 year period something is wrapping that individual way, way too tight.



This is just my opinion, of course, but I really don't see where Ron Paul fits into any formula that requires 'world' cooperation. The man can't see beyond his nose!

I wish.

Stan

¤=[Post Update]=¤

If the old world order wants to surrender to the people why then do they want Mitt Romney to be president? If they really wanted that then they would want to put Ron Paul in as president surely?

Stan

Wow what a ridiculous statement. You're right obama's the one for the job! (Sarcasm).

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

This is just my opinion, of course, but I really don't see where Ron Paul fits into any formula that requires 'world' cooperation. The man can't see beyond his nose!

I wish.

Stan

¤=[Post Update]=¤

If the old world order wants to surrender to the people why then do they want Mitt Romney to be president? If they really wanted that then they would want to put Ron Paul in as president surely?

Stan

Wow what a ridiculous statement. You're right obama's the one for the job! (Sarcasm).

A question for you :

How do you think Obama would go at being president of the USA if he was left to his own devices to govern, and was not made to do the bidding of his masters - the only thing he had to answer to for making his decisions was his conscience?


It doesn't matter because that's not the case. Let's look at his track record shall we? Obama thinks it is cool to assasinate american citizens. Obama bombed libya without even consulting with the congress (even bush consulted with the congress before going to war). Obama signed the ndaa bill. Obama championed corporate bailouts. Obama reserves the "right" to detain people indefinitely. Obama appointed timothy geitner (ex-goldan sachs lobbyist) as his treasury secretary. He has had plenty of opportunities to prove his dedication to doing what is right for the people and he has failed every time.

[aranuk]

This is just my opinion, of course, but I really don't see where Ron Paul fits into any formula that requires 'world' cooperation. The man can't see beyond his nose!

I wish.

Stan



¤=[Post Update]=¤

If the old world order wants to surrender to the people why then do they want Mitt Romney to be president? If they really wanted that then they would want to put Ron Paul in as president surely?

Stan

Wow what a ridiculous statement. You're right obama's the one for the job! (Sarcasm).

A question for you :

How do you think Obama would go at being president of the USA if he was left to his own devices to govern, and was not made to do the bidding of his masters - the only thing he had to answer to for making his decisions was his conscience?


I haven't a clue what you are saying here frankly. Are you saying that Obama is really a nice and well intentioned person or something like that? He signed these bloody bills curtailing freedom of the people of America. He has flunked on most of his promises he made when he was wanting votes to be elected. The proof of the pudding is in the eating surely. His conscience is non existant as far as I can see.

Stan

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Hello my old friend,

Principles may seem easy to cling to when there is no extant framework for comparative thinking. That doesn't make him a bad person by default...just a very limited one. In all seriousness, if an individual doesn't 'morph' over a 30 year period something is wrapping that individual way, way too tight.



This is just my opinion, of course, but I really don't see where Ron Paul fits into any formula that requires 'world' cooperation. The man can't see beyond his nose!

I wish.

Stan

¤=[Post Update]=¤

If the old world order wants to surrender to the people why then do they want Mitt Romney to be president? If they really wanted that then they would want to put Ron Paul in as president surely?

Stan

Wow what a ridiculous statement. You're right obama's the one for the job! (Sarcasm).

I don't know if he is a bad person or not and it is not my intention to accuse him of being bad. He is controlled by corporations though. That is what i believe. And if he isn't controlled by corporations then he IS a bad person.

[alienHunter]

Hi alternative,

I feel that I'm treading on dangerous ground when I broach 'assassination' but...

what the heck, i'll keep it short...At the start of the Iraq war if I had been given the opportunity to put a bullet in Saddam's forehead I would have done it...How many lives would have been saved?

I think that the American citizen that was 'assassinated' had amply demonstrated what he felt about 'American citizenship'...Does that justify it? Hell, I don't know...that's up to the gods to determine. Does that act condemn Obama...maybe, maybe not. I'll let the gods decide that one, too and just keep truckin' on.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

That's my point...WE ARE ALL CONTROLLED BY CORPORATIONS...

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Hi alternative,

I feel that I'm treading on dangerous ground when I broach 'assassination' but...

what the heck, i'll keep it short...At the start of the Iraq war if I had been given the opportunity to put a bullet in Saddam's forehead I would have done it...How many lives would have been saved?

I think that the American citizen that was 'assassinated' had amply demonstrated what he felt about 'American citizenship'...Does that justify it? Hell, I don't know...that's up to the gods to determine. Does that act condemn Obama...maybe, maybe not. I'll let the gods decide that one, too and just keep truckin' on.

Hey hunter. Again the debate is all in good fun. So are you saying you believe the fairy tale war on terror is actually about stopping islamic extremists??? I thought it was more about taking our rights away. Including the right of an american citizen to not be assasinated.

[alienHunter]

No, I think the whole game is about trying to undo generation, upon generation of misdeeds perpetrated by 'enlightened' Western thinkers. That's really what I think.



Hi alternative,

I feel that I'm treading on dangerous ground when I broach 'assassination' but...

what the heck, i'll keep it short...At the start of the Iraq war if I had been given the opportunity to put a bullet in Saddam's forehead I would have done it...How many lives would have been saved?

I think that the American citizen that was 'assassinated' had amply demonstrated what he felt about 'American citizenship'...Does that justify it? Hell, I don't know...that's up to the gods to determine. Does that act condemn Obama...maybe, maybe not. I'll let the gods decide that one, too and just keep truckin' on.

Hey hunter. Again the debate is all in good fun. So are you saying you believe the fairy tale war on terror is actually about stopping islamic extremists??? I thought it was more about taking our rights away. Including the right of an american citizen to not be assasinated.

[jackovesk]

This is just my opinion, of course, but I really don't see where Ron Paul fits into any formula that requires 'world' cooperation. The man can't see beyond his nose!



....This one's especially for all the Fools from Mark Twain...


Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

Mark Twain

...and even Hunter S.Thomson gives his 2 cents worth on FOOLS...


No man is so foolish but he may sometimes give another good counsel, and no man so wise that he may not easily err if he takes no other counsel than his own. He that is taught only by himself has a fool for a master.

Hunter S. Thompson

:focus:

[mountain_jim]

I think you all might consider taking the Obama/Paul posts to a new thread for that purpose.

[alienHunter]

but, but...it is about the old/new world order...gotta connect the dots, my man...


I think you all might consider taking the Obama/Paul posts to a new thread for that purpose.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

I think you all might consider taking the Obama/Paul posts to a new thread for that purpose.

Eh. Let the conversation go where it will i say. Oh no mod attack incoming! Haha just kidding mods.

[Rollo]

In Poland when Communist Party gave up their power to the opposition everything supposed to be better for the people. But after a while Poles find out that the communists are still there and never gave up their power but simply they were in the background. Maybe in the Fulford's case is the same. We will see new faces, new ideas but the power will be still out of our hands. We need to be careful now.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Quote, (trying to find out how the quote function works, its my first day and post on the forum. Thank you good people and posters of avalon, you have most certainly tought me a lot about myself, having patience, using discenment( hope i spelled this right), human politics, exopolitics and free energy, you have all done a whole lot in opening my eyes to the current state of being of the human consciuosness ( i think this has a typo, excuse me )

Quote,

"There is also going to have to be very thorough disclosure through a South African style truth and reconciliation committee."


??? We are sometimes quite but not always, an awfull lot sorry we farted millions of lives in almost perpetual financial, spiritual, informational non existance through our absence of a social conciense ????

I do understand the usefullnes of forgiveness ( someone has to take the iniative) but i do hope someone gets to go to jail for all of this. IMHO someone ( probably a lot of people) just had to know about the global human consequences of all these horrible actions.:confused:

[modwiz]

Ending the fed and putting them all in prison could make everything different. Their strategic positions have made their small numbers disproportionately effective. That is why they now say the want to help. They are nothing but junkies promising to help us with our drug problem if we can just arrange another fix a two for them. Extreme prejudice towards them is the only way to deal with them. They do believe they can outsmart the rest of humanity as long as they are given a seat at the table. They hope to use their usual means of persuasive infection the way viruses operate.

I hope our global immune system kicks in and they get kicked out of the show and into a prison. They are nothing but vermin. As they have proven for centuries.

[jackovesk]

Ending the fed and putting them all in prison could make everything different. Their strategic positions have made their small numbers disproportionately effective. That is why they now say the want to help. They are nothing but junkies promising to help us with our drug problem if we can just arrange another fix a two for them. Extreme prejudice towards them is the only was to deal with them. They do believe they can outsmart the rest of humanity as long as they are given a seat at the table. They hope to use their usual means of persuasive infection the way viruses operate.

I hope out global immune system kicks in and they get kicked out of the show and into a prison. They are nothing but vermin. As they have proven for centuries.

:bump:

They are LOSING big time and they know it..!

That's when their most Cunning & Dangerous...

The word 'IMPLOSION' resonates and watch the PIGS start squeeling..!

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Maybe the new Dutch financial court can play a role in this, but the thing is it will probably will just be a "maybe"

[778 neighbour of some guy]

I am all for emptying Wash. DC and distributing the filth into the various FEMA camps around the country. Spirit knows, that's what they were built for.

I hope it turns out that way, but i doubt it will work out that way, but one can always hope :cool:

[DreamsInDigital]

My question, if they're going to let or put Mitt Romney in office, and we all know what a disaster that is going to be. What all does this mean for the little people? And how fast is this crap going to turn around?

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

-sigh-.... All i know is i'm buying survival gear and hunting gear so i can go live off the land if i have to. Hope we're able to stop the ptw before it gets to that though. Damn. It is a hell of a mess.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

No, I think the whole game is about trying to undo generation, upon generation of misdeeds perpetrated by 'enlightened' Western thinkers. That's really what I think.



Hi alternative,

I feel that I'm treading on dangerous ground when I broach 'assassination' but...

what the heck, i'll keep it short...At the start of the Iraq war if I had been given the opportunity to put a bullet in Saddam's forehead I would have done it...How many lives would have been saved?

I think that the American citizen that was 'assassinated' had amply demonstrated what he felt about 'American citizenship'...Does that justify it? Hell, I don't know...that's up to the gods to determine. Does that act condemn Obama...maybe, maybe not. I'll let the gods idecide that one, too and just keep truckin' on.

Hey hunter. Again the debate is all in good fun. So are you saying you believe the fairy tale No man is so foolish but he may sometimes give another good counsel, and no man so wise that he may not easily err if he takes no other counsel than his own. He that is taught only by himself has a fool for a master. Hunter S. Thompson on terror is actually about stopping islamic extremists??? I thought it was more about taking our rights away. Including the right of an american citizen to not be assasinated.

So on the one hand you're defending obama's decision to assasinate a "terrorist" but on the other hand you're defending the "terrorists" because they are correcting western misdeeds? You my friend, are a walking contradiction.

O ok wait wait. Is obama correcting the misdeeds or are the terrorists correcting the misdeeds?

[DreamsInDigital]

Far as I understand it, The "Terrorist" work for the Powers that Be/Were. The Taliban and Al Queda are the Terrorist Network that the PTB/PTW use to facilitate their False Flag Terrorist attacks to facilitate their removal of liberties and freedoms etc. Start wars, that sort of thing.

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Thank you dreamsindigital! On the nosey! Exactly correct.

[Mystique]

”The Old World Order wants to surrender but to the people, not to the New World Order” by "rigging opinion polls and primary results to make sure their decision is enforced" and consequently undermining what the "people" they are "surrendering" to want.

They sound really sincere. (rolls her eyes)

[Herbert]

Everyone seems to have missed the suggestion Ben makes for what Americans can do to help:

quote: "The owners of the Washington D.C. Corporation have already decided on Mitt Romney as the new President of the United States. They have been rigging opinion polls and primary results to make sure their decision is enforced. The corporate media propaganda machine is also in on the decision. The Asian creditors to the Western nations do not interfere in the politics of other countries so they will take no stand on this issue. They say this is an internal matter for the American people to resolve on their own."

That means more protests and anything else individual citizens can manage. It really requires an internal revolution by the people for the people. So what is really holding them back?

[kcbc2010]

A few points:

1) President Obama couldn't get much done, even when the Dem's controlled the House/Senate. There's a reason why there are so many different checks/balances on the system.
2) Honestly, the "little people" aren't going to see much difference between Mitt or Obama. It's funny how people are so focused on national politics where they really can't make a difference, but you really actually can change things at a local level.
3) My immediate take is that TPTB want Mitt is because he's a finance guy and either he's being set up to be the fall guy when it all goes south or he's going to be a transitional guy between one era to another. There's already talk that he's going to be the last Republican to run under what is considered the Republican Party today. I tend to fall in this category because you can feel that the Parties are going to be a lot different looking in 2016 from what they are now. There are reasons why so many are leaving BOTH political parties.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Ending the fed and putting them all in prison could make everything different. Their strategic positions have made their small numbers disproportionately effective. That is why they now say the want to help. They are nothing but junkies promising to help us with our drug problem if we can just arrange another fix a two for them. Extreme prejudice towards them is the only was to deal with them. They do believe they can outsmart the rest of humanity as long as they are given a seat at the table. They hope to use their usual means of persuasive infection the way viruses operate.

I hope out global immune system kicks in and they get kicked out of the show and into a prison. They are nothing but vermin. As they have proven for centuries.

:bump:

They are LOSING big time and they know it..!

That's when their most Cunning & Dangerous...

The word 'IMPLOSION' resonates and watch the PIGS start squeeling..!

May The Powers That Pee, be blessed with everlasting incontinence by the good and inventive creative forces of our universe:rolleyes:

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Ending the fed and putting them all in prison could make everything different. Their strategic positions have made their small numbers disproportionately effective. That is why they now say the want to help. They are nothing but junkies promising to help us with our drug problem if we can just arrange another fix a two for them. Extreme prejudice towards them is the only was to deal with them. They do believe they can outsmart the rest of humanity as long as they are given a seat at the table. They hope to use their usual means of persuasive infection the way viruses operate.

I hope out global immune system kicks in and they get kicked out of the show and into a prison. They are nothing but vermin. As they have proven for centuries.

While I understand your feelings, I'd like you to consider the following: A quote from Beyond DaVinci - The Next Chapter Regarding the French Revolution: "As the power in France shifted away from the monarchy, instead of the masses taking the momentum and moving toward a nobler cause as we hoped, they became swept away by the winds of vengeance. Like fire raging uncontrolled through open fields, their bitterness spread. The guillotine became their temporary god and their thirst for blood became all consuming. Can you see how the French citizens of that time exhausted their energy on revenge? It's important to remember for the future that when a change in leadership takes place that it's in a nation's best interest to funnel the passions of the public away from past mistakes and towards the future. That does not mean that previous leaders should not be held accountable for their wrong doings. But if trials are appropriate, it would be healthier for the country that they not become the main focus of the citizens." (note: the underlining is mine.)

Modwiz, my understanding is this is how history repeats itself, by humanities great need to punish those who have wronged them, and thereby we reduce ourselves to their level. Note that the above quote does speak of trials, but they should be held in a fair and compassionate way that reflects the principles of freedom.

[modwiz]

Ending the fed and putting them all in prison could make everything different. Their strategic positions have made their small numbers disproportionately effective. That is why they now say the want to help. They are nothing but junkies promising to help us with our drug problem if we can just arrange another fix a two for them. Extreme prejudice towards them is the only was to deal with them. They do believe they can outsmart the rest of humanity as long as they are given a seat at the table. They hope to use their usual means of persuasive infection the way viruses operate.

I hope out global immune system kicks in and they get kicked out of the show and into a prison. They are nothing but vermin. As they have proven for centuries.

While I understand your feelings, I'd like you to consider the following: A quote from Beyond DaVinci - The Next Chapter Regarding the French Revolution: "As the power in France shifted away from the monarchy, instead of the masses taking the momentum and moving toward a nobler cause as we hoped, they became swept away by the winds of vengeance. Like fire raging uncontrolled through open fields, their bitterness spread. The guillotine became their temporary god and their thirst for blood became all consuming. Can you see how the French citizens of that time exhausted their energy on revenge? It's important to remember for the future that when a change in leadership takes place that it's in a nation's best interest to funnel the passions of the public away from past mistakes and towards the future. That does not mean that previous leaders should not be held accountable for their wrong doings. But if trials are appropriate, it would be healthier for the country that they not become the main focus of the citizens." (note: the underlining is mine.)

Modwiz, my understanding is this is how history repeats itself, by humanities great need to punish those who have wronged them, and thereby we reduce ourselves to their level. Note that the above quote does speak of trials, but they should be held in a fair and compassionate way that reflects the principles of freedom.

Punishment is not on my mind. It is containment for our safety. If we managed to round up all of the leaches, mosquitoes,ticks and fleas in the world, thereby making the world a safer and nicer place, what would we do to them? We have human predators/parasites to deal with for the public safety. Prison or FEMA camps, no difference. Whatever keeps us unmolested. Punishment is for emotionally stunted humans and I have no interest in it.

[Mulder]

I find it hard to believe that the "Old World Order" is not one in the same with the "New World Order" & secondly, they don't want to surrender to anyone, let alone the people (whoever they are). On the contrary, this is simply delaying the inevitable "financial collapse" which is starting to become so obvious, that no-one can deny it. I say"financial collapse" because a US default will not be able to be solved simply with a devaluation - the World won't let them off so easily - and so the world should be hard-nosed to the US!

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

New white hat report http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38809-New-white-hat-report.-16th-jan.&p=405232#post405232

[humanalien]

New white hat report http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38809-New-white-hat-report.-16th-jan.&p=405232#post405232

Same thing as Ben Fulford, David Wilcock and the White Dragons.
They all promise you the moon but you get nothing. I think all of
them are working with the PTB to give people a false sense of hope.

[Star Tsar]

I am guardedly skeptical of what Fulford says. However, 50% writeoff would be a bargain.

Hey lost soul perhaps that 50% "write off" will be of our spending power that Lindsey Williams has been talking about?
(Can't find the video @ mo sorry)
:(

[Camilo]

B. Fulford is always entertaining for sure, no matter what topic he addresses,

[crested-duck]

Bozzo the clown was entertaining too- till I grew up and learned he was just a bad actor putting on a show for his financial benefit .

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

:boxing:
Bozzo the clown was entertaining too- till I grew up and learned he was just a bad actor putting on a show for his financial benefit .

Haha dang that was cold!

That made me laugh. I don't know though i like ben in general. I just wish there was more tangible evidence to back up his claims. I wish we actually could see some results instead of all this empty talk

[TargeT]

By profession I am a graphic designer and looking at all three signatures only the signature of Robert Zoellick appears to be real or the most natural looking. The other two signatures in my opinion don't have characteristic of signature smoothly executed by hand - performed for many years. Signatures of Queen Elizabeth and Lars Thunell are written in much the same way, they resemble rather the signatures made by someone who tries to imitate them.

Please compare the following two examples of the signatures of Queen Elizabeth from 1954 and the second one more current from 2011(in visitors book). These signatures are very natural, especially the letter "E" shows that there is never a straight, vertical line in the upper curve. Other parts of the signature look different as well like letters: L, second E and H.
http://www.qinq.net/temp/elizabeth_signature.jpg

In the case that these signatures are real then their unnatural appearance is very suspicious.

That's the 1st thing I looked at when I posted the document on page 1...

After doing a Google search the only signature that looked authentic was Robert Zoellick's in fact it is too good...

The only problem being it is identical to the one I found on Google...

http://www.havelshouseofhistory.com/Zoellick,%20Robert%20B%20signature.jpg
Signature Link through Google (http://www.havelshouseofhistory.com/Jewish%20Autographs%20ZO-ZZ.htm)

I refuse to live in false hope and Ben Fulford really needs to come up with the real goods...quick smart..!

Not to mention, signing one's name through the printed one (Not the 'Z' but the 'B') and if you look even closer the Zoellick signature is signed on 'EXACTLY' the same angle as the one I cut and pasted off Google...

Not smelling a Rat, no it STINKS of a Rat..!

For those of you who don't believe this is a 'FAKE' document, try signing your name 10 X in a row and I Guarantee you, not 1 will be 'EXACTLY' the same. Yet Robert Zoellick's Google & Document signature are 'IDENTICAL'...

You've been busted Benny Boy..!



Heres (http://lucas2012infos.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/ben-fulford-breaking-news-the-feds-have-sued-for-peace-and-detailed-settlement-negotiations-have-begun-9-january-2012/) the full report

Ben Fulford Quote:


Some secret government files signed by Queen Elizabeth on behalf of the committee of 300 have also been sent to this writer and confirmed by BIS linked sources as genuine. They will be posted on this writer’s free blog as well for everybody to see. Note the astronomical numbers and the mention of a Chinese Red Dragon. The person who sent these files is connected to former Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos. Marcos was one of the many prominent victims of the owners of the Fed.

Thanks for that Ben, now I'd like to introduce you all to the real former Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos..!


Ferdinand Emmanuel Edralin Marcos, Sr. (September 11, 1917 – September 28, 1989), was a Filipino dictator who held the title of President of the Philippines from 1965 to 1986. He was a lawyer, member of the Philippine House of Representatives (1949–1959) and a member of the Philippine Senate (1959–1965). He was Senate President from 1963–1965.

http://wapedia.mobi/thumb/25d7510/en/fixed/108/150/Ferdinand_Marcos_at_the_White_House.jpg?format=jpg
10th President of the Philippines

While in power he implemented wide-ranging programs of infrastructure development and economic reform. However, his administration was marred by massive authoritarian corruption, despotism, nepotism, political repression, and human rights violations.

In 1983, his government was accused of being involved in the assassination of his primary political opponent, Benigno Aquino, Jr. Public outrage over the assassination served as the catalyst for the People Power Revolution in February 1986 that led to his removal from power and eventual exile in Hawaii. It was later discovered that he and his wife Imelda Marcos had moved billions of dollars of embezzled public funds to the United States, Switzerland, and other countries, as well as into alleged corporations during his 20 years in power.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Ferdinand_Marcos

PS - Am I missing something here..??? Anyone..???

Don't even get me started on the (BIS) Bank of International Settelments..!

If you want to research that, put 'John Perkins' (Economic Hitman) name into a You Tube search and he will tell you all about them..!

These are not pin holes,, these are fundemental flaws & in the case of the document... reasonably clear forgery.... People should be aware of these flaws in the "story" (information) good catch!

the more corroboration for or against stuff like this that we can get the better, why else are we on these forums?

[DreamsInDigital]

Lets try something new with this one, instead of debating needlessly to his credibility (though if you want to do this, go start your own thread/make your own sandbox to play in). Lets try being civil with each other and just discussing the contents and the possible outcomes and effects of what this will have on each other as individuals and also collectively on the world. And, Humanity in general. What would you do with your $125,000?

Benjamin Fulford | January 30 2012

The reason that many of the top Federal Reserve Board crime syndicate crooks have not been arrested yet is that the old system needs to be kept going with string and wire and duct-tape until final preparations for a radically new system are completed. For example, an Asian proposal now being negotiated calls for 10 million yen or about US$125,000 to be budgeted for each and every individual human being on earth. The Pentagon is also making similar radical proposals for a complete change of how humans interact with each other and with nature. The big conclusion being reached at the highest level is that the old financial system in the West was an illusion used by a secret cabal to keep us enslaved. We are now about to become truly free in ways that will exceed most people’s most optimistic expectations. However, there will be some hard work at first before this becomes true.

The proposal being forwarded by the White Dragon Society to Asian clan elders is for the creation of a new, meritocratically staffed organization to be set up near Tenri City, South of Osaka. The name now being proposed for this organization is “Long-term Investments For Everyone,” or LIFE, for short.

The negotiations towards unifying the Korean Peninsula with Japan and moving the capital of this new entity to the same region are also proceeding smoothly. We can confirm that Japanese “kidnap victim” Megumi Yokota is the mother of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un. Kim has agreed to accept the union of the Northern dynasty with the Southern one in the region in exchange for a ceremonial post. Perhaps he can become the symbol of unity and have his own palace and staff.

The initial funding for LIFE, to be backed by Gold returned to Asia from the West as well as by other historical assets, can be set at 7000 trillion yen or, as mentioned above, about $125,000 per human. The money will be delivered in the form of development services such as canals, sewer systems, desalination plants, nature preserves, fish farms etc. People working for LIFE will receive generous salaries and be subject to draconian penalties for corruption.

LIFE will not be the only major organization working on planning for the future of the species according to White Dragon Society proposals.

The British Commonwealth, with its 1.8 billion members, will want their own independently financed development and future planning organization built according to commonwealth consensus. It will probably have to be initially headed by someone from India in order to make up for past British racism. Indian and other historical gold assets as well as commonwealth real estate will back their funding.

The Catholic Church and Vatican Bank will also want to have a Christian planning agency controlled by actual Christians for their 1.2 billion members once the Satanists are purged from the Vatican bank.

Similar independent groups such as the Chinese, the Muslims, the Africans and the first nations will also be able to plan for their own independent futures.

In addition, the United Nations will have to be radically restructured in order to make it truly representative of the human race and not be an instrument of Western imperialism as it is today.

Studies by the pentagon, anthropological research and corporate governance research all conclude that the most effective decision making bodies number between 6-9 people. This is the size of the traditional human family during hunter gatherer times. The most natural division for humanity along cultural and historical lines suggests a new council of elders be put at the heart of the United Nations Security Council.

The White Dragon suggestion is for a representative to be selected by each of the following groups: Africa, China, East Asia (excluding China), India, North and South America, Europe including Russia, the Islamic world and first nations.

This 8 person grouping would only function as an emergency consultative council to deal with issues affecting all humans. It would operate according to majority rule. Each region would have a veto but that veto would be restricted to that region only.

Sovereign nation states would continue to exist as before unless voluntary agreements to merge were reached between countries.

The Pentagon, for its part, has reached an agreement to merge with the Chinese and Russian Military to form a global peace keeping force, according to a high ranking agency source.

There has also been an agreement to break up many of the large corporations controlled by the Khazarian Satanic Cabal. Microsoft was specifically mentioned as a company that was about to go Kaput. The major corporate media corporations will also be broken up. Many other top 100 corporations will be broken up into as many as 20 smaller units, according to this source.

The cabalists in charge of the G5 countries are also going to be excluded from the new financial system. If necessary the Pentagon will round up both the Illuminati and the Nazis, in order to make sure they cause no more trouble.

In the US there is also going to be a detailed study of what happened over the past 100 years since the Federal Reserve Board took over and a lot of stolen funds are going to be returned to their rightful owners.

A lot of billionaires will soon be out on the street pan-handling if they are found to have been living on stolen funds. A lot of poor people will suddenly be able to live in their own, mortgage free homes.

Needless to say, revamping how we run the planet is not an easy job. There is a lot of nitty gritty to be taken care of before anything public is announced. We also need to be on extreme alert for any last minute Satanic terror attacks aimed at trying to prevent the freeing of the sheeple.

However, have no doubt, the Satanists will be defeated. There will be world peace, an end to poverty and an end to environmental destruction. Humanity will be set free.

Here is something sent by a Pentagon source. It is by Jim Channon and reflects the kinds of ideas being bandied around as humanity heads into a new age.

Twelve Break-Thru’s Of The Next Decade

Opportunities on the event horizon

1. Oil companies realize they are liquid transportation companies and start to move fresh water to needy places on the planet.

2. Major engineering companies respond to rising seas and create canals that take the excess water into barren lowlands inside the continents where it is needed.

3. The national military forces of the planet merge to form natural security teams and restore their respective parts of the earth’s forests, plant life, watersheds, wildlife and the biosphere above all that.

4. That schools recognize that content is already available on line and change their courses to life skills, learning based pursuits, and a new partnership with nature.

5. That Universities build upon the science of conscious evolution, a visionary mindset, and life force living intelligence and then structure their experience based curricula to that end.

6. That government decentralizes into bioregions and organizes military units, school kids, fire departments and others to generate food foraging forests in all available sites for complete global food security.

7. That neighborhoods take on a wide variety of energy producing solutions to become fully independent but not totally separate from the power grid.

8. That web-based democracies attend to their regionally based constituents and use the global web intelligence system to optimize local living.

9. That railheads, airports, and warehouses converge to be able to launch global air rescue missions that deliver major emergency living villages to all peoples globally within hours of a disaster.

10. That the global public achieves a clear unifying identity and the pre-emptive political power to defang the nuclear arsenal and its fear based factions while offering alternative product lines for the military industrial complex.

11. That we accept the notion that life is more likely to exist in the galaxy than not and prepare for the real benefits of new connections.

12. That we embrace a new level of profound simplicity and reintroduce creativity as a replacement for things and mindless entertainment.

[sunflower]

I wish! A lot of work ahead for us but we can do it if we really want to. Each doing our active part in one way or the other.

[Alie]

I liked your forward. After the last thread, I feel naive hoping for this to be true. I'm just a dreamer at heart, and tired of being such a pessimist, so I'm just going to take it at face value.

[gooty64]

More money will make the world a better place-----REALLY?

[DreamsInDigital]

I liked your forward. After the last thread, I feel naive hoping for this to be true. I'm just a dreamer at heart, and tired of being such a pessimist, so I'm just going to take it at face value.
Thank you, I just feel we are all mature adults here and are quite capable of acting as such. And, there really isn't any necessity or anything actually gained at this point in debating his credibility, this derails the thread and nothing is actually accomplished. There is nothing gained by beating a dead horse other than making another huge mess to clean up.

Another thing I am going to politely ask of the contributing posters is to please take your cynicism and negative thoughts/energy/attitudes else where. It's not helping anything by contributing negative energy to something or someone that is trying to do good and make a positive difference in the lives of everyone here on this planet. We all need to work collectively on thinking and doing more positive things and living in a more positive yet balanced mind set. This is really a good place to start for those that haven't already, because the stuff contained in this blog post really will do a lot for the betterment of humanity globally when it is put into action. And, it will be through our support and positive energy/thoughts/etc that things like this will be developed and come to fruition.

[aranuk]

DiD Thank you for this BF report. I haven't read any posts apart from the opening post by your good self. May I say that Benjamin Fulford couldn't make all this up. Seriously. There has to be truth in what he is saying.

Stan

[aranuk]

The John Lennon song Imagine is not just a song, it is a dream that can be made real.

Stan

[Billy]

More money will make the world a better place-----REALLY?

Money is not negative within itself, It is how money has been used that has manifested the negativity of greed and corruption.

Abundance is every human beings birth right. and there is plenty to go around.

Perception again Gooty

Peace

[DreamsInDigital]

Thanks! Stan. I totally agree, and having seen most of his information corroborated by other sources independent of him. This dissident movement definitely is Steam Rolling Along.

Another thing I would like to see done when it comes to education, is the REAL true history of our planet and humanity taught, and no longer suppression of things that don't fit. Sure it would require literally completely re-writing history, but it's necessary. And, we have a right born within us to know the truth of where we came from as a global race.

I would also like to see more done to eliminate racism, and that future generations are fully educated and taught we are all human first and why we have different skin colors and different features etc. But, not to be taught in a way that separates us, but unifies us. That allows us to embrace our unique individuality but also to embrace eachother globally.

[Douglass]

Cool post. It is amazing to imagine how much the world will change when humanities energies are devoted to harmony, love, and nurturing of consciousness. I enjoy listening to Ben Fulford, I don't feel compelled to say "pick a side" for whether he is right or wrong. It all seems very plausible to me.

Thanks for the post.

What is Benjamin Fulfords website?

[DreamsInDigital]

What is Benjamin Fulfords website?
http://benjaminfulford.net/

[lslimerick]

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with money, thoughts, use - change it......

[spiritguide]

Thank you for the post and your input.

[WhiteFeather]

13. All free energy devices will be released as well as all the suppressed scientific medical breakthroughs.

Great Post, Im feeding off of the positive energys here D.I.D. Wanishi Sis



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_yJx4fgFUg&feature=related

[Cartomancer]

I liked your forward. After the last thread, I feel naive hoping for this to be true. I'm just a dreamer at heart, and tired of being such a pessimist, so I'm just going to take it at face value.

I'm with you.

[aranuk]

I am 65 and retired and when I read and hear and see Fulford he gives me hope that this crazy friggin' world might soon change for the better. He is a wee bit whacky, a bit like myself, but nevertheless I think he tells it as he knows it. He says he has friends in the White Dragons, the CIA, the Pentagon who am I to doubt him. I have friends too although they are not in powerful positions in the world, I know I can trust them with my life. Even if half of what he says is true and definitely going to happen this world would be a much better place for my grandchildren to live.

Stan

[WhiteFeather]

What we think we become, Lets all start to rethink the journey of Peace and Truly Becoming Free.

[truthseekerdan]

More money will make the world a better place-----REALLY?

Money is not negative within itself, It is how money has been used that has manifested the negativity of greed and corruption.

Abundance is every human beings birth right. and there is plenty to go around.

Perception again Gooty

Peace

Money was invented with the reason to enslave, it truly is the root of all evil at this time... :shocked:

[Quantum Logic]

This does not "feel" right. Why, after so many years of secrets and deception, would the "forces of darkness" just accept this proposal? They have killed countless billions, and will do so again to maintain the network of control. This is too easy. The future is always born in pain, but this scenario hands the world over on a silver platter back to us. Why would they do that? Does it make any sense that these people are going to just accept going to prison for the rest of their lives- really? I feel this is not the case. These are the type of people who would "poison the well" so to speak- if they cannot have it, no one can. It would be foolish for me to believe that suddenly they had a monumental change of heart and are going to accept this.

I have read a number of threads as of late that imply we have already won this, or are in the process of doing so. But to believe this at face value would cause most to let their guard down, which to me, is exactly how "they" operate- deception. Fulford and the group may indeed be making these plans, which if true, possibly changes the control plan. I fear Japan has just put a big red X on themselves. I will be watching for an unnatural earthquake in the region of enormous magnitude. The potential reality has been altered by his announcement.

Please- stay vigilant.

[kersley]

The John Lennon song Imagine is not just a song, it is a dream that can be made real.

Stan

Not just a dream , it's our destiny..

[9eagle9]

More money will make the world a better place-----REALLY?

And to point a quote I posted from the passage. i'm sorry but ...this is what we do now. Fund projects and have huge government sanctioned demands for money for 'corruption' when those payouts are really just a out in the open way of transfering money between two corrupt entities . And the overseers of both recieve....great salaries! . This is just more old system. It's been re arranged to sound nice but the core value is the old system. I'd be more impressed if they just deposited the money into our accounts without demanding us to be microchipped or registered to recieve it ....or really without requiring anything at all.

So I ask you Gooty will having more canals and fish farms make the world a better place? :p


The initial funding for LIFE, to be backed by Gold returned to Asia from the West as well as by other historical assets, can be set at 7000 trillion yen or, as mentioned above, about $125,000 per human. The money will be delivered in the form of development services such as canals, sewer systems, desalination plants, nature preserves, fish farms etc. People working for LIFE will receive generous salaries and be subject to draconian penalties for corruption

[ThePythonicCow]

I have read a number of threads as of late that imply we have already won this, or are in the process of doing so. But to believe this at face value would cause most to let their guard down, which to me, is exactly how "they" operate- deception.
My guess is that "they" are fixing to do a major reset on the global monetary system (not in a way to our benefit) and they are setting up the people most likely to object (that's us) into accepting the reset as a positive change ... at least until it is too late.

[Ixopoborn]

I love this thread! I also love Fulford but never place full reliance on anything he says.

Forum members are more than usually driven people intent upon supporting introduction of changes for the better.

As we approach the necessary decisions to begin the changes we all so earnestly desire, so we begin to realise the sheer enormity of the task ahead. So enormous is the task ahead of us that we start fighting amongst ourselves at the slightest disagreement.

It strikes me that the verbal spats that develop are more symptomatic of the near impossibility of our mission for change than of anything else.

I know Bill Ryan likes Fulford but does not trust Fulford's information and assertions. Not do I.

Nonetheless, I believe Fulford has and continues to make a very important contribution to our movement.

Long live Bejamin Fulford!

[jackovesk]

Ok, I'll try and be on my best behavior...:)

I was listening to Coast to Coast AM Live last night w/George Knapp interviewing Travis Walton...

When the 'Commercial Breaks' were on George Noory was advertising that his upcoming guest was to be none other than our infamous (Benjamin Fulford), so I went to check out when he was scheduled to be a 'Guest' on C2C and found this below...

13307

http://ausmall.com.au/freegraf/archive3/ac1058.gifIt will be interesting to see (If & When) they reschedule him..?...:noidea:

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/upcoming

[Quantum Logic]

@Paul

That is one potential reality, but how would it benefit "them"? What is there to gain by giving an enormous amount of money to every human being on the planet? That would allow humanity to thrive-even if for a short while before their reset. And how many, before the reset occurs, would go out and purchase the materials for free energy device construction? That action would be a direct threat to the new system. If energy were free, the control mechanism simply could not exist.

[aranuk]

I have read a number of threads as of late that imply we have already won this, or are in the process of doing so. But to believe this at face value would cause most to let their guard down, which to me, is exactly how "they" operate- deception.
My guess is that "they" are fixing to do a major reset on the global monetary system (not in a way to our benefit) and they are setting up the people most likely to object (that's us) into accepting the reset as a positive change ... at least until it is too late.

Paul I do not understand what you say here. Your last words . at least until it is too late. What do you mean? Could you please explain it in an easier way?

Stan

[ThePythonicCow]

@Paul

That is one potential reality, but how would it benefit "them"? What is there to gain by giving an enormous amount of money to every human being on the planet? That would allow humanity to thrive-even if for a short while before their reset. And how many, before the reset occurs, would go out and purchase the materials for free energy device construction? That action would be a direct threat to the new system. If energy were free, the control mechanism simply could not exist.

The nice things Fulford predicts wouldn't actually happen. If the bastards in power have their say, there won't be any free money or free energy :).

By way of analogy: People in the US who voted for Obama were told to expect hope and change, and they no doubt cheered when Bush left the White House for the last time. The good change part didn't quite happen as expected however.

[DreamsInDigital]

That's because little do most people know, Obama is a blood cousin to Bush Jr. So, we weren't really getting rid of the controlling party or the Bushes.

[ThePythonicCow]

My guess is that "they" are fixing to do a major reset on the global monetary system (not in a way to our benefit) and they are setting up the people most likely to object (that's us) into accepting the reset as a positive change ... at least until it is too late.

Paul I do not understand what you say here. Your last words . at least until it is too late. What do you mean? Could you please explain it in an easier way?

Stan
As I figure it, from the point of view of the bastards in power:

the US Dollar has to be replaced as the world's reserve currency with some internationally controlled construct,
with this, the U.S. Federal Reserve needs to be restructured as just a national institution, and a new internationally controlled institution needs to assume the role of the central bank for the above world reserve currency,
the national governments, including in particular the United States, need to be further subordinated to international institutions,
the uppity Muslims need to be put in their place (under the boot), and
the enormous over extension of debt needs to be "called in", foreclosing on individuals, businesses, and governments local and national, passing more control of all these indebted parties to the holders of that debt.

(Of course, the afore mentioned international institutions are controlled by a few powerful families, not by or for the benefit of the rest of us.)

So we may see the collapse and restructuring of some Anglo banking institutions and of the US Dollar ... but this will not be a prelude to a new dawn, rather a segway into a new hell.

In our confusion however, hoping it might be a new dawn, we might hesitate to revolt, just long enough for them to cement the new arrangements.

[aranuk]

My guess is that "they" are fixing to do a major reset on the global monetary system (not in a way to our benefit) and they are setting up the people most likely to object (that's us) into accepting the reset as a positive change ... at least until it is too late.

Paul I do not understand what you say here. Your last words . at least until it is too late. What do you mean? Could you please explain it in an easier way?

Stan
As I figure it, from the point of view of the bastards in power:

the US Dollar has to be replaced as the world's reserve currency with some internationally controlled construct,
with this, the U.S. Federal Reserve needs to be restructured as just a national institution, and a new internationally controlled institution needs to assume the role of the central bank for the above world reserve currency,
the national governments, including in particular the United States, need to be further subordinated to international institutions,
the uppity Muslims need to be put in their place (under the boot), and
the enormous over extension of debt needs to be "called in", foreclosing on individuals, businesses, and governments local and national, passing more control of all these indebted parties to the holders of that debt.

(Of course, the afore mentioned international institutions are controlled by a few powerful families, not by or for the benefit of the rest of us.)

So we may see the collapse and restructuring of some Anglo banking institutions and of the US Dollar ... but this will not be a prelude to a new dawn, rather a segway into a new hell.

In our confusion however, hoping it might be a new dawn, we might hesitate to revolt, just long enough for them to cement the new arrangements.

Thank you Paul, I now understand.

Stan

[WhiteFeather]

This does not "feel" right. Why, after so many years of secrets and deception, would the "forces of darkness" just accept this proposal? They have killed countless billions, and will do so again to maintain the network of control. This is too easy. The future is always born in pain, but this scenario hands the world over on a silver platter back to us. Why would they do that? Does it make any sense that these people are going to just accept going to prison for the rest of their lives- really? I feel this is not the case. These are the type of people who would "poison the well" so to speak- if they cannot have it, no one can. It would be foolish for me to believe that suddenly they had a monumental change of heart and are going to accept this.

I have read a number of threads as of late that imply we have already won this, or are in the process of doing so. But to believe this at face value would cause most to let their guard down, which to me, is exactly how "they" operate- deception. Fulford and the group may indeed be making these plans, which if true, possibly changes the control plan. I fear Japan has just put a big red X on themselves. I will be watching for an unnatural earthquake in the region of enormous magnitude. The potential reality has been altered by his announcement.

Please- stay vigilant.

That would be timeline 2, please turn to chapter 1 or timeline 1, if you will.

[Quantum Logic]

@WhiteFeather

How could there only be 2 timelines? That is not logical. Every moment of our existence is filled with an infinite possibility of "moments" based on the choices we make, and each has the potential to create a new reality. For me to restrict myself to believing there are only 2 possible realities would be a choice to ignore that which I already know. How is this any different from, say, the political structure in the U.S.? Republicans and Democrats are very forceful in portraying that there are only 2 sides- that a 3rd party candidate would never win. Why do you think that is? Is it possible that it is because there is another way that is in between.If the citizens experienced that balance, it would threaten the structural continuity of their power base.

What if the right choice- is not to choose at all. If no one would take either of their sides, how would the endless right-left struggle continue? Have you ever wondered why when Obama won the election, and the Democrats had control of both the House and Senate, why they didn't pass everything they ever wanted, and crush the Republicans forever? It's because that would have ended the struggle- the facade- and NEITHER side wants that. They want to continue to make us decide which of them is right- and we remain caught in the middle of them.

[WhiteFeather]

@WhiteFeather

How could there only be 2 timelines? That is not logical. Every moment of our existence is filled with an infinite possibility of "moments" based on the choices we make, and each has the potential to create a new reality. For me to restrict myself to believing there are only 2 possible realities would be a choice to ignore that which I already know. How is this any different from, say, the political structure in the U.S.? Republicans and Democrats are very forceful in portraying that there are only 2 sides- that a 3rd party candidate would never win. Why do you think that is? Is it possible that it is because there is another way that is in between.If the citizens experienced that balance, it would threaten the structural continuity of their power base.

What if the right choice- is not to choose at all. If no one would take either of their sides, how would the endless right-left struggle continue? Have you ever wondered why when Obama won the election, and the Democrats had control of both the House and Senate, why they didn't pass everything they ever wanted, and crush the Republicans forever? It's because that would have ended the struggle- the facade- and NEITHER side wants that. They want to continue to make us decide which of them is right- and we remain caught in the middle of them.

There were so many timelines to choose from so we narrowed it down to 2 choices. Creation or Destruction of mankind. We kept it simple.