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DreamsInDigital
23rd February 2012, 05:43
John Kettler's second interview with Kerry Cassidy and Project Camelot will be Thursday the 23rd, for some that day has already arrived, for others...it will be tomorrow as of the time of this post. 9:41pm PST Wednesday 22nd.

Same Bat Time, Same Bat Channel (extra points for anyone that gets that reference ;) )

Questions Posted here in this thread will be passed onto Mr. Kettler, but please first search the other threads concerning him to make sure your question hasn't already been answered, also suggested is checking AT LEAST the last few recent blogs, and the FAQ page on his site. Most likely your question has already been answered, but if not. Then please post it here.

There are other interviews with other Radio Hosts in the process of being scheduled, so this certainly wont be the last one ;)

ThePythonicCow
23rd February 2012, 05:59
You don't state what time :).

Looking at Kerry's blog, it seems to be 7 PM PST, Feb 23, 2012 (http://www.thetimezoneconverter.com/?t=7:00%20pm%202/23/2012&tz=San%20Francisco) (click the time to show it converted to your local time, wherever you are on this planet.)

DreamsInDigital
23rd February 2012, 06:02
:doh: but I did say "Same Bat Time, Same Bat Channel" kind of figured most here are familiar enough with the 'normal' time for her show they'd get it, lol. And specially that it is the same time as the other one. Thanks for adding the time though.

onawah
23rd February 2012, 06:48
I have a few questions for Mr. Kettler.
The first has to do with time and although the answer may not be comprehensible given the mysterious properties of time itself, I will ask it anyway,.
Given that the Reptilians and Greys have been here for a long, long time, and the Illuminati have been hatching their nefarious plans for quite some time now, why have the ETs/EDs waited until the 11th hour to foil their schemes?
According to Mr. Kettler, it seems the ETs/EDs really have their hands full now, and so I can't help thinking that if our allies are as wise and powerful as we hope they are, and given that the presence of the Reps and Greys here are more than just a local concern, but possibly a Galactic concern, it seems that a few ounces of prevention before things got this bad would have been worth all these pounds of cure that they are having to implement now on so many fronts.

Also, given that the humans on the planet now are and have been under attack mentally, spiritually, emotionally and biologically for decades and longer now, via vaccines, chemtrails, HAARP, EMFs, mind control through MSM and religion, etc., pesticides, herbicides, poisonous pharmaceuticals, GMOs, and a huge assortment of other toxic chemicals, viruses, bacteria, fungi and so on and so on, will the ETs/EDs remain here for awhile once the NWO has been taken care of to help us get back on our feet and figure out how to clean up the planet and live peacefully and harmoniously with each other and with Gaia?
Will they be available to help in the event that the negatively oriented ETs attempt to return?
Is this battle going on elsewhere in the Universe?

Does he know anything about underground positively oriented ET bases and why they are here? Will those ETs be interacting with us more openly in the future?
We hear lots of promises via channeled messages (many of which are bogus, of course) to this effect, but it would really be something to get the truth straight from the ET's/ED's mouth.

Are there websites that he can recommend which will be carrying news about the demonstrations he says the ETs/EDs will be carrying out, such as the "lawn dart" etc.?

What do his contacts think about Obama and next Presidential race?

Thanks!

aranuk
23rd February 2012, 15:12
Hi DID, has anyone reported any happenings last night as John Kettler announced there would be lots of attacks carried out?? Can we ask him what happened if anything at all? And can we get some proof what happened? He did stick his neck out yesterday making these announcements.

Stan

CeltMan
23rd February 2012, 15:21
DID,

suggest posting the links to the other threads, might aid in effective communications, keep everyone singing off the same hym sheet so to speak?

thanks

Cjay
23rd February 2012, 16:28
Random question for John Kettler.

What have your sources told you about what is going on at Pine Gap and what will be done about it?

Earth Angel
23rd February 2012, 16:32
Rob
February 22, 2012 at 10:44 pm

John, I just did a quick search on Jone’s site. Saw no indication he is aware of what’s happening.

Scanning sources all evening. Not a whisper as of yet.
Reply

John Kettler
February 23, 2012 at 2:57 am

Rob,

There were some technical problems and a disaster to be averted, both of which severely limited what could be done. The work goes on!

Hi DID, has anyone reported any happenings last night as John Kettler announced there would be lots of attacks carried out?? Can we ask him what happened if anything at all? And can we get some proof what happened? He did stick his neck out yesterday making these announcements.

Stan

WhiteFeather
23rd February 2012, 23:32
Kerry Cassidy Interviews John Kettler Tonite For Part 2. Starts at 7 Pm PST. Should be Interesting.

http://johnkettler.com/wp-content/uploads/JKI-Intel-2-sky-250.jpg

http://livestream.com/projectcamelotlive/

DreamsInDigital
23rd February 2012, 23:36
I started an thread for this late last night, my dear brother. :)

WhiteFeather
23rd February 2012, 23:40
Sorry Sis, informing mods as we speak.

WhiteFeather
23rd February 2012, 23:44
Starts Tonight, Bump.

aranuk
24th February 2012, 00:23
I have a few questions for Mr. Kettler.
The first has to do with time and although the answer may not be comprehensible given the mysterious properties of time itself, I will ask it anyway,.
Given that the Reptilians and Greys have been here for a long, long time, and the Illuminati have been hatching their nefarious plans for quite some time now, why have the ETs/EDs waited until the 11th hour to foil their schemes?
According to Mr. Kettler, it seems the ETs/EDs really have their hands full now, and so I can't help thinking that if our allies are as wise and powerful as we hope they are, and given that the presence of the Reps and Greys here are more than just a local concern, but possibly a Galactic concern, it seems that a few ounces of prevention before things got this bad would have been worth all these pounds of cure that they are having to implement now on so many fronts.

Also, given that the humans on the planet now are and have been under attack mentally, spiritually, emotionally and biologically for decades and longer now, via vaccines, chemtrails, HAARP, EMFs, mind control through MSM and religion, etc., pesticides, herbicides, poisonous pharmaceuticals, GMOs, and a huge assortment of other toxic chemicals, viruses, bacteria, fungi and so on and so on, will the ETs/EDs remain here for awhile once the NWO has been taken care of to help us get back on our feet and figure out how to clean up the planet and live peacefully and harmoniously with each other and with Gaia?
Will they be available to help in the event that the negatively oriented ETs attempt to return?
Is this battle going on elsewhere in the Universe?

Does he know anything about underground positively oriented ET bases and why they are here? Will those ETs be interacting with us more openly in the future?
We hear lots of promises via channeled messages (many of which are bogus, of course) to this effect, but it would really be something to get the truth straight from the ET's/ED's mouth.

Are there websites that he can recommend which will be carrying news about the demonstrations he says the ETs/EDs will be carrying out, such as the "lawn dart" etc.?

What do his contacts think about Obama and next Presidential race?

Thanks!

Hi Onawa those questions are great but will Kerry ask any of them. If you ask me I think he has this ploy to sell ebooks. I don't know of any happenings last night or the night before but seemingly his excuse was that there were technical difficulties. Didn't his contacts ET or terra based not telepathise him not to give dates? An easy way out...there were technicalities etc. tut tut. Usually the reply a liar wil give you. Kerry should nail this guy tonight BTW as he is a sure waste of time.

Stan

onawah
24th February 2012, 00:31
Technical difficulties I could probably buy, but if he says it happened as predicted, only on a different time line, then I think I will relegate him to the the same list as the GFL, which is entitled Bogus. :suspicious: :tsk: :sad:

I have to wonder too, if some of these people might actually be telepathic or psychic and really ARE picking up some information from the airwaves, so to speak, :tinfoil3: but, because the ETs don't have time to waste dealing with them, these so called Contactees are just pretending to have direct contact, but are actually making it up as they go along, :blah: hoping they are making accurate guesses based on what they are picking up.

That would be very sad and certainly pathetic, but is probably all too likely... :pout: :ohwell:

aranuk
24th February 2012, 00:35
Onawah I don't think he is that imaginitive.

Dreams in Digital has gone quite quiet, hello.

Stan

TelosianEmbrace
24th February 2012, 00:36
It might be a little premature, but I'd like to choose a different word. We've all been....
BLOSSOMED
:rolleyes:

aranuk
24th February 2012, 00:39
Technical difficulties I could probably buy, but if he says it happened as predicted, only on a different time line, then I think I will relegate him to the the same list as the GFL, which is entitled Bogus.:suspicious::tsk::sad:
I have to wonder too, if some of these people might actually be telepathic or psychic and really ARE picking up some information from the airwaves, so to speak, but, because the ETs don't have time to waste dealing with them, these so called Contactees are just pretending to have direct contact, but are actually making it up as they go along, hoping they are making accurate guesses based on what they are picking up.

We are now giving him better excuses Onawah than he has given so far. I sure hope he is not reading this thread as he may still use some of these we are giving him. haha.

Stan

ThePythonicCow
24th February 2012, 00:41
I started an thread for this late last night, my dear brother. :)

I now pronounce you two threads man and wife, to be as one for all eternity :).

(merge done :))

aranuk
24th February 2012, 00:44
Where's the ring Paul?

Stan

WhiteFeather
24th February 2012, 00:44
Who has the ring, THE RING!

aranuk
24th February 2012, 00:53
Whilst we are waiting for the interview, why don't we have some fun guessing what will happen and will not. Get our psychic organs a wee bit of excercise eh? Why not? Will I start or WF?
You can tell I'm bored can't you? :p

Stan

onawah
24th February 2012, 00:57
Good point, Aranuk! :lol: I sincerely hope :happy: JK is authentic; however, excuse after excuse can only lead to one conclusion, eventually...
It couldn't be that difficult for a few credible independent eyewitnesses to post something on youtube or if there was indeed, anything to report :cell: :photo: :phone:
Even Ben Fulford manages to produce some evidence.
I doubt that anyone would expect anything to show up on MSM, in any case.



Technical difficulties I could probably buy, but if he says it happened as predicted, only on a different time line, then I think I will relegate him to the the same list as the GFL, which is entitled Bogus.:suspicious::tsk::sad:
I have to wonder too, if some of these people might actually be telepathic or psychic and really ARE picking up some information from the airwaves, so to speak, but, because the ETs don't have time to waste dealing with them, these so called Contactees are just pretending to have direct contact, but are actually making it up as they go along, hoping they are making accurate guesses based on what they are picking up.

We are now giving him better excuses Onawah than he has given so far. I sure hope he is not reading this thread as he may still use some of these we are giving him. haha.

Stan

WhiteFeather
24th February 2012, 01:05
I have an announcement to make. Dreams In Digital, will you be my Avalon Wife. This marriage is only valid on Avalon, and cannot be redeemed on any other website. Would you accept my Avalon Proposal. PS I am choosing Modwiz as my best man. Hope he doesn't mind.

aranuk
24th February 2012, 01:14
I think DID has ran off with Dustan Hoffman. And left you standing there like a wally.


Stan

WhiteFeather
24th February 2012, 01:19
I think DID has ran off with Dustan Hoffman. And left you standing there like a wally.


Stan

LMAO, YUP SHE STOOD ME UP. A Fool In The Rain I Am.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2015S3A-lg

ThePythonicCow
24th February 2012, 01:22
Usually the groom provides the ring ... and a generous donation to the pastor's church :).

er .. eh .. WhiteFeather ?

WhiteFeather
24th February 2012, 01:26
The best man provides the ring i believe. BTW Modwiz is spiritually loaded, he wont mind making a generous contribution to the temple of oneness. Lol

DreamsInDigital
24th February 2012, 01:41
I have an announcement to make. Dreams In Digital, will you be my Avalon Wife. This marriage is only valid on Avalon, and cannot be redeemed on any other website. Would you accept my Avalon Proposal. PS I am choosing Modwiz as my best man. Hope he doesn't mind.
Um..but isn't that considered incest since we're supposed to be brother and sister? :yuck: :laugh: :hug:

WhiteFeather
24th February 2012, 01:45
LOL,,,,Incest is best. : ) And besides i think modwiz went to go purchase a suit.

WhiteFeather
24th February 2012, 02:51
10 minutes to Kerry and Kettler. This should be a trip.

http://www.livestream.com/projectcamelotlive/

jcocks
24th February 2012, 02:58
I have my popcorn....somewhere......

onawah
24th February 2012, 03:09
I have some rice. We're all set! :ranger::popcorn:

DreamsInDigital
24th February 2012, 03:26
Technical Difficulties happen both off planet and on planet ;) One would think BY NOW, Kerry would have it somewhere close to being worked out. She has Technical Difficulties every single interview...every single one.

jcocks
24th February 2012, 03:28
Obviously not technically minded. Nothing wrong with that though.... My wife is the same :)

gooty64
24th February 2012, 03:32
This interview is a dreadful mess and why are there 5 people none of them named Kettler?

DreamsInDigital
24th February 2012, 03:36
Obviously not technically minded. Nothing wrong with that though.... My wife is the same :)
You would think though after how many interviews? she'd at least come close to having it worked out. Or chose a different edifice for the interviews.

onawah
24th February 2012, 03:44
I am technically challenged too, so I can relate.
With all her fan base, you would think someone would volunteer to be her techie for these interviews, though.

Fundy Gemini
24th February 2012, 03:52
I cant get onto either site with my tablet (mobile device) -sigh-

jcocks
24th February 2012, 03:56
ok it's on now..:)

Dennis Leahy
24th February 2012, 04:03
Venezuela, North Korea, and Iran - all named as bad guys in a plot? Who wrote this script, Dick Cheney?

But the ETs zapped the dirty-bomb warhead missiles that Hugo Chavez had. {whew!}

Dennis

{edit: 10:23 Central Time, GMT-6}
John describes that Hugo Chavez threatens to bomb drug trade route in Mexico (or Central America?) because the drug cartel was not paying Chavez for use of Venezuelan drug trade routes.

Kerry: "That's incredible." (as in "not credible")

John explains: Cartel gets pissed off, and they are given location of the missiles that are going to be pointed at them. They somehow get this location info from ETs.

Cartel arrives in Venezuela, and blows up missiles, while Venezuelan troops sleep. (wait, before John said ETs shot inter-dimensional beam weapon from 7th dimension to blow up missiles)

I don't think Kerry believes John at all...

{edit: 10:36 - 10:40 Central Time, GMT-6}
Clarification: Drug cartel forces blew up half of the missiles. ETs completed the destruction from space. Several Iranian and several North Korean advisers were in Venezuela, advising (on liquid fueling of missiles, etc.) John does not know what happened to North Koreans, but 3 Iranians were captured, turned over to US military, and are now at Guantanamo.

[Dennis wonders aloud if there are any other official enemies of state of Bush/Cheney administration that we could lump in here. I have no idea if John is sincere, but if so, I suspect he is "mushroomed" something fierce. (kept in the dark and fed fertilizer)]

{edit: 10:52 - 11:00 Central Time, GMT-6}
Let's talk about Israel. Israeli sub with multiple nuclear armed warhead missiles was steaming towards Iran. Warned several times by ETs to stop. [Am I the only person on Earth the ETs don't talk to? I'm getting pissed off.] Israel will not listen, and so ETs "remove" reactor and missiles and crew from sub, leaving gaping holes. Israeli sub crew now being held by ETs, being "re-educated." John says we may see that sub again, maybe floating. [Hmmmm, sub with gaping holes floating... That would be a cool trick.]



{edit: 11:00 -11:13 Central Time, GMT-6}
Kerry wants to know specifically - name names - who are NWO major players? John generalizes. Says he has not had a conversation about specific NWO members.

Why not, Kerry wonders?

John: Not enough ETs to do everything at once to help us. "There are limited forces available to deal with crises.", John says. Kerry does not seem to believe the ETs are so limited. John says, Force fields being used to hold planet together, ETs working on Fukushima clean up, ETs working on protecting New Madras fault.

Minimum of 3 different ET races frantically working together to save Earth. NWO trying to trigger WW3, faux (man made) "natural" disasters.

{edit: 11:15 -11:20 Central Time, GMT-6}
John says (last week?) ETs "disappeared" 40 (forty!) boats/vessels that were planning to target an oil tanker in Iranian waters. Many many witnesses, including reporters. Gag order.

ETs protecting John. For example, black-ops helicopter sucked into vortex when they got too close to him.

Intelligence community divided - some very pissed at John, some grin.

{edit: 11:20 - 11:45ish Central Time, GMT-6}
Lots of vague chatter about ETs...

ALL Israeli nuclear ballistic missiles have been disarmed by ETs.


At about 11:50, Kerry asked the question I posted at ProjectCamelotLive:
Kerry, Please ask: - "Why don't ETs use brilliant strategy - take out a handful of top NWO leaders? Why go after soldiers when you can stop the generals?"
John said, that has been discussed. They can bother a world leader by making them hear voices all day, etc. They prefer to do the least physical damage.

Kerry asked about Obama. After a VERY pregnant pause, John said he is a clone. Many world leaders are clones, says John.

At about 12:05, Kerry asks about "Stargates." John says there is a "Sea-gate" off coast, (Yemen?) he heard there was a stargate in Iraq, maybe another in Iran.


{edit: 12:15 - 12:30ish Central Time, GMT-6}
Lots of vague chatter about ETs...

Kerry wrapping up. Asks John what additional info he want to tell us...

John says he has been warned by humans about blocking Satanic forces. He says he is doing that.

He says humans are up against invincible races (including reptoids) and technology - we cannot win without help. That why the ETs are helping

Kerry asks about Arthur C. Clark's [I]Childhood's End, and whether this is what is going to happen to humanity if we get ET help. Sovereignty of humanity? Sovereignty of the planet? John says, "Their job is to crush the NWO, oust the reptoids and dracos."

12:31 donations discussed...

good night.

Fundy Gemini
24th February 2012, 04:06
Well I'm out - guess she can't get things mobile compatible (worked last time, oh well)
:-\

modwiz
24th February 2012, 04:39
Venezuela, North Korea, and Iran - all named as bad guys in a plot? Who wrote this script, Dick Cheney?

But the ETs zapped the dirty-bomb warhead missiles that Hugo Chavez had. {whew!}

Dennis

{edit: 10:23 Central Time, GMT-6}
John describes that Hugo Chavez threatens to bomb drug trade route in Mexico (or Central America?) because the drug cartel was not paying Chavez for use of Venezuelan drug trade routes.

Kerry: "That's incredible." (as in "not credible")

John explains: Cartel gets pissed off, and they are given location of the missiles that are going to be pointed at them. They somehow get this location info from ETs.

Cartel arrives in Venezuela, and blows up missiles, while Venezuelan troops sleep. (wait, before John said ETs shot inter-dimensional beam weapon from 7th dimension to blow up missiles)

I don't think Kerry believes John at all...

I am with you here Dennis. I got a whiff of this stew in the last interview. Did PNAC decide to throw in some ET's to get some new ears to spit into? In one fashion, this could be brilliant disinfo, because of the very interesting, and very possibly true, information that is being used to carry some ideas that feel very neoconnish.

DreamsInDigital
24th February 2012, 04:43
It's not Disinfo, I can't comment any further than that, but I can tell you it's NOT Disinfo.

Kerrigan
24th February 2012, 04:54
This interview is a dreadful mess and why are there 5 people none of them named Kettler?

The first hour, Kerry had technical (audio) difficulties. A previously recorded video was playing meanwhile. The interview really started an hour later.

Then, she called John on Skype. The video was only showing Kerry.

gripreaper
24th February 2012, 05:17
Venezuela, North Korea, and Iran - all named as bad guys in a plot? Who wrote this script, Dick Cheney?

But the ETs zapped the dirty-bomb warhead missiles that Hugo Chavez had. {whew!}

Dennis

{edit: 10:23 Central Time, GMT-6}
John describes that Hugo Chavez threatens to bomb drug trade route in Mexico (or Central America?) because the drug cartel was not paying Chavez for use of Venezuelan drug trade routes.

Kerry: "That's incredible." (as in "not credible")

John explains: Cartel gets pissed off, and they are given location of the missiles that are going to be pointed at them. They somehow get this location info from ETs.

Cartel arrives in Venezuela, and blows up missiles, while Venezuelan troops sleep. (wait, before John said ETs shot inter-dimensional beam weapon from 7th dimension to blow up missiles)

I don't think Kerry believes John at all...

{edit: 10:36 - 10:40 Central Time, GMT-6}
Clarification: Drug cartel forces blew up half of the missiles. ETs completed the destruction from space. Several Iranian and several North Korean advisers were in Venezuela, advising (on liquid fueling of missiles, etc.) John does not know what happened to North Koreans, but 3 Iranians were captured, turned over to US military, and are now at Guantanamo.

[Dennis wonders aloud if there are any other official enemies of state of Bush/Cheney administration that we could lump in here. I have no idea if John is sincere, but if so, I suspect he is "mushroomed" something fierce. (kept in the dark and fed fertilizer)]

{edit: 10:52 - 11:00 Central Time, GMT-6}
Let's talk about Israel. Israeli sub with multiple nuclear armed warhead missiles was steaming towards Iran. Warned several times by ETs to stop. [Am I the only person on Earth the ETs don't talk to? I'm getting pissed off.] Israel will not listen, and so ETs "remove" reactor and missiles and crew from sub, leaving gaping holes. Israeli sub crew now being held by ETs, being "re-educated." John says we may see that sub again, maybe floating. [Hmmmm, sub with gaping holes floating... That would be a cool trick.]

But Dennis, these forty intercontinental ballistic missiles were out in an open field in the jungle near the beach having been fueled out in the woods with highly volatile fuel that can kill you if you spill a drop on you, and the warheads were biological that can kill you as soon as it hits your lungs, AND Dennis, half were destroyed by the pissed off drug cartel by ground forces using street ballistics with a map given to them by the ET's because Chavez threatened them to close their trade routes, and the ET's figured "why not" use the drug cartel to do the job because the ET's have limited resources and it's difficult to do interdimensional warfare and the ET's are VERY busy trying to stop World Wars and destruction, ya know, but then the ET's finished the job because the drug cartel did not, AND AND there was no fallout or any reports from any news sources or any Venezuelan's with video's and You Tube capabilities out camping and smoking pot who saw anything or anyone who knows anything and there is no evidence anywhere and no one heard anything.

yup. makes sense to me.

And don't forget that Iran, Venezuela and North Korea are the last three holdouts that have not succumbed to the globalist banksters central banking system. That's probably coincidence though. At least the Oathkeepers and the White Hats are happy with all this according to Kettler.

I love it when clarity finally comes. I'm headed outside to see if I can see or talk to any ET's. I'm with you Dennis, I'm beginning to feel that I'm one of the few who the ET's don't talk to and I'm wondering what's wrong with me!

Blueskywalking
24th February 2012, 05:35
John is such a patient man! Kerry is all over the place...
I look forward to him being interviewed by a gentler, subtler interviewer.

DreamsInDigital
24th February 2012, 05:39
John is such a patient man! Kerry is all over the place...I look forward to him being interviewed by a gentler, subtler interviewer.
There are plans among others to be interviewed by, Red Ice, PA- Member Kimberly, Coast-2-Coast, Off Planet Radio, etc.

super t
24th February 2012, 06:24
It's not Disinfo, I can't comment any further than that, but I can tell you it's NOT Disinfo.

Why make this kind of a comment? You mean it´s total BS...

DreamsInDigital
24th February 2012, 06:27
It's not Disinfo, I can't comment any further than that, but I can tell you it's NOT Disinfo.

Why make this kind of a comment? You mean it´s total BS...
I didn't say it's BS, what makes you think that? I said it's NOT Disinfo. I was specifically commenting on Modwiz inquiry/comment. Regarding whether it is Disinfo or not. Please go back and re-read my post as you obviously don't understand what I said and how clearly I said it. Maybe if you read couple times you will understand the very clear thing I said.

ThePythonicCow
24th February 2012, 06:47
Why make this kind of a comment? You mean it´s total BS...
I didn't say it's BS, what makes you think that?
My reading of "super t"s comment is that he was saying that your comment was BS ... that your "It is not disinfo" comment had no value to "super t".

Note to super t: If my reading is right, then your post isn't very constructive either :).

onawah
24th February 2012, 06:58
I actually like Kerry's approach on this interview.
She has a way of cutting to the chase, which though it's certainly not gentle, is effective, and saves time.
As much as possible, I think she kept JK on topic, even though his tendency was to wander.
And she didn't give him lots of time or space to talk about his book or his website, etc., which I appreciated.
I would like to see a transcript of the conversation, because it wasn't that easy to follow.

ThePythonicCow
24th February 2012, 07:02
I am with you here Dennis. I got a whiff of this stew in the last interview. Did PNAC decide to throw in some ET's to get some new ears to spit into? In one fashion, this could be brilliant disinfo, because of the very interesting, and very possibly true, information that is being used to carry some ideas that feel very neoconnish.
When I notice all the "Bank CEO's Resigning" news, I get the sense that a game of music chairs is being played at the highest financial levels on this planet ... and that someone (a small group with major world wide power) is calling the music. I sense a behind the scenes power struggle, with a major shift in which portion of the Bastards in Power is dominant.

Given that, I then sense that much of what we're hearing, in various forms, to appeal to various groups, is a semi-fictional way of presenting what is happening, so that we masses have a variety of ways available to us to "explain" what is happening, so that, one way or another, we chill out, and don't start getting too uppity or united in rebellion.

I'm wagering that John Kettle, and many other various whistle blowers, insiders or those with "unnamed" sources, and what not are serving (perhaps unwittingly) as "channels" for this propaganda, being in this case a palatable mix of truth and spin, with intention.

schneider
24th February 2012, 07:19
i hope some one else interviews john k., kerry's 2nd interviews are not as interesting as they could be.

Anam Cara
24th February 2012, 07:56
Geez...give Kerry a break, her webmaster is sick so he couldn't help her so she had to spend a lot of time focusing on technical issues which no doubt interfered with the interview. Besides, John didn't say much more than he did in the first interview and would veer off on tangents way too often if Kerry hadn't reined him in. I wasn't very impressed with him if not very convinced. Maybe he isn't very good at giving interviews, some people aren't.

Jean-Luc
24th February 2012, 08:53
I am with you here Dennis. I got a whiff of this stew in the last interview. Did PNAC decide to throw in some ET's to get some new ears to spit into? In one fashion, this could be brilliant disinfo, because of the very interesting, and very possibly true, information that is being used to carry some ideas that feel very neoconnish.
When I notice all the "Bank CEO's Resigning" news, I get the sense that a game of music chairs is being played at the highest financial levels on this planet ... and that someone (a small group with major world wide power) is calling the music. I sense a behind the scenes power struggle, with a major shift in which portion of the Bastards in Power is dominant.

Given that, I then sense that much of what we're hearing, in various forms, to appeal to various groups, is a semi-fictional way of presenting what is happening, so that we masses have a variety of ways available to us to "explain" what is happening, so that, one way or another, we chill out, and don't start getting too uppity or united in rebellion.

I'm wagering that John Kettle, and many other various whistle blowers, insiders or those with "unnamed" sources, and what not are serving (perhaps unwittingly) as "channels" for this propaganda, being in this case a palatable mix of truth and spin, with intention.


I made my very best to listen to approx. 1h30 of the Kerry/Kettler 1st interview and thought for myself how pathetic this whole thing was.

I even thought that in a sense those instrumenting this crap must be in a pretty bad shape to come up with such poor propaganda. This is so ludicrous.

I feel sorry for Kerry and her lack of discernment.

apokalypse
24th February 2012, 09:14
i still wondering why JK can't name ets/ds that he contact with, these et who cannot be name in a war with guys from Orion group who we know of like draco-reptilian-greys and they might have know who these beings already which JK in contact with... so what's the problem naming them? we isn't ask for strategy or what "so-called the Good Guys" going to next....

super t
24th February 2012, 09:36
Why make this kind of a comment? You mean it´s total BS...
I didn't say it's BS, what makes you think that?
My reading of "super t"s comment is that he was saying that your comment was BS ... that your "It is not disinfo" comment had no value to "super t".

Note to super t: If my reading is right, then your post isn't very constructive either :).
Sorry, my comment is constructive but I can´t comment about it. Catch my drift...

Referee
24th February 2012, 10:14
I have listened to approx. 15 mins of this second interview. I did not listen to the first............. However this SREAMS DIS INFO IMO.

The MSM and military would co-opt this and start WW3 if true.

stardustaquarion
24th February 2012, 12:19
I find it interesting that all he has changed his home page for the purchase of his book

As for the rest, anyone can have any hypothesis that does not make it real. Where is the evidence that the missiles have been disabled?

Personally I have no doubt many missile heads will be render useless by the cosmic storm that has started. What else will malcfuntion is anyone's guess

G.Deluca
24th February 2012, 12:24
my feelings are that even kerry is bored and not convinced

Eric J (Viking)
24th February 2012, 13:19
Well, into to about an hour so far ... Do we see his face?

I thought the whole idea of the second interview was to show his face whilst he was being interviewed ? ect... perhaps we'll have to wait for the next one?!

viking

RMorgan
24th February 2012, 13:34
Hey guys,

I seriously think that Kerry should urgently start choosing her invitees better.

Lately, all of them seems to me like they are in some kind of competition about who talks the most absurd, nonsense and crazy things as possible.

ET working with Drug Cartels???????????????????????

Chavez having high range missiles?????????????? If Chavez even thinks about building such weapons, he wouldn´t be here to tell the story anymore.

This isn´t even disinfo, it´s no info at all.

I miss the good, solid and constructive interviews...

Cheers,

Raf.

ljwheat
24th February 2012, 14:00
Very disappointing: like listening to a cow patty collect fly’s. you were left with visualizing the landing of little tiny feet squishing around. I guess that’s why they took off the show “lie to me,” we were learning to much. I left after watching the inside of a book for ten minutes after Kerry cover here web cam. As body language speaks volumes.

gooty64
24th February 2012, 14:09
Very disappointing: like listening to a cow patty collect fly’s. you were left with visualizing the landing of little tiny feet squishing around. I guess that’s why they took off the show “lie to me,” we were learning to much. I left after watching the inside of a book for ten minutes after Kerry cover here web cam. As body language speaks volumes.

I was wondering about Kerry when I finally turned it off. She was laying her head on the keyboard and I realized she didn't know her camera was Live.

scotusa
24th February 2012, 14:20
Hi DID, has anyone reported any happenings last night as John Kettler announced there would be lots of attacks carried out?? Can we ask him what happened if anything at all? And can we get some proof what happened? He did stick his neck out yesterday making these announcements.

Stan

Mr Kettle(r), a whistle blower. Very creative Kerry, hope he doesn't run out of steam. I think SCOOP Cassidy and SCOOP Ryan are being played by the puppet masters. Thats 3 duds at least.

WhiteFeather
24th February 2012, 14:26
IMO,,Some are quick to judge much like many judged B fulford, lets give this guy Kettler a little more time and see what becomes of his information. I'm not closing my mind just yet. I'm all ears. Hopefully the next interview will be better if it happens.

aranuk
24th February 2012, 14:33
I couldn't watch after he was repeating almost everything he said in the first interview. I went to bed after he spoke about the Israel/persian gulf which we heard on video 1. So going by Dennis's good summary, he was never asked about his announcement of the century he made about 2 nights ago? A Disappontment to say the least. I knew JK was a waste of time but I hoped for more from Kerry.

Stan

Operator
24th February 2012, 15:22
Well, the earliest info that 'Charles' had to offer to Bill is that the alternative media would be heavily messed with. And I think he was right.
They did it in such an unexpected way ... nobody saw it coming. So the image of the three of them (Bill, Kerry, David Wilcock) are now damaged.
I think Bill got less active because he understands that for the moment more and more shills would be sent on his path. Kerry on the other hand
probably tried to repair the damage by ramping up the pace. But instead of replacing an interview gone wrong with a better one she has to be
careful not to suck in more doubtful characters (IMHO of course).

We can all do ha,ha about it and discuss it till the threads overload but when thinking about it for a moment we may come to better conclusions.

1. Why are they under attack now ?
They were left alone, getting hidden support even, to get their message out till a certain point, a certain time. I think they were allowed to build
up an audience because they need spectators for the coming show. During the coming show however no independent comments or info are
allowed. If a magician performs a trick he will make sure that the spectators' attention follows the script he's providing to make his unnecessary
and distracting actions believable. They have dumbed down the population so much that they needed to mature an audience to support the
coming show.

2. Considering this is deliberate, we might come to the conclusion they were accurate and a threat to them before. Maybe they need
our support more than ever instead of trashing them ;)

Although it's not on topic of this thread I am starting to see a link between some unconnected dots that might explain what I mean with
the upcoming show as mentioned above. I listened to Hoagland this morning

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41136-Richard-Hoagland-on-Coast-for-first-2-hours...Tue-20th-feb-2012...Space-Update..

I got a very strong sense now that they (TPTB) are working on disclosure but on their terms. This idea sprouted earlier but this interview
more or less confirms this. Disclosure is very much an EGO thing !!

First of all they had an unprepared audience 60 .. 70 years ago and started the coverup. By the coverup they delved themselves deeper and deeper into trouble.
Not only did they make themselves into liars and deceivers, they also made the public less and less prepared.

By now most of us understand the dilemma that TPTB can't disclose but at the same time have to disclose because otherwise it will disclose itself which is the worst scenario for them.

So I figure they may have planned the following logical steps:

1. Create a prepared and gullible audience, spread over the world, that will support the storyline of aliens and ET's when the news breaks.

2. Make sure the story line is that WE discover THEM. This will make humans look more powerful/superior.

3. First the confirmation will be done by finding alien off planet remains of civilizations.

4. Then off planet intelligent life will be confirmed

5. Then we finally draw the conclusion ... he ? Some of them are already amongst us.

I don't want to derail this thread but on the other hand we will be getting nowhere if keep responding to persons and personal issues. Also if we don't link
the breadcrumbs from separate threads we will never discover that the crumbs are coming from the same loaf of bread.

gooty64
24th February 2012, 15:37
apokalypse,

These "whistle blowers" are not telling you because it is for your own good not to know!

Just like the Bill Wood and David Wilcock-while giggling- said that we know something really BIG but, we can't tell because it's for your own good or it will wreck the outcome or something...

I have to say from our vantage point it's pretty hard to know how to help.....please throw us a bone!


i still wondering why JK can't name ets/ds that he contact with, these et who cannot be name in a war with guys from Orion group who we know of like draco-reptilian-greys and they might have know who these beings already which JK in contact with... so what's the problem naming them? we isn't ask for strategy or what "so-called the Good Guys" going to next....

humanalien
24th February 2012, 15:50
First of all, the 2nd interview was a total waste of time. Kerry, after
suffering 50 mins of tech trouble, finally got john on a different phone
line and just did an audio interview with him. That's all fine and good.
Stuff happens. No sooner had kerry finally started the interview, she
went into john with both talons. I thought she was going to rip the man
apart.

Then, instead of talking first about the stuff that john had said was going
to happen the night before the interview(that never happened), she starts
talking about the stuff that supposedly already happened in Venezuela.
This is where kerry begins ripping john apart, imo. I thought for sure that
john would just get up and leave. I know i was angered by her approach to
questioning.

Kerry came to the interview with either a chip on her shoulder already or
she was dog tired. She did not look right at all. Her body language was all
over the place, like she didn't believe a word he was saying. I watched her
roll her eyes, give that look of being disgusted, laying her head down of the
table because she was pissed or something. She was just all over the place.

IMO, the interview was doomed right from the start because of kerrys attitude.

Now on to john.

I think everything he is telling us is pure bullchip. His only purpose for being interviewed
is to sell his books. I noticed someone in the chat last night said that he or she thought
so much about john that he or she felt compelled to buy and e-book. He or she later
regretted it. The book stunk with a big P.U....

John made a post on his web site dated feb 21, 2012, stating that - that night, head were
going to roll in the nwo. His aliens friends were kicking it into high gear and wear going to
start cleaning up things on this planets. The DreamsInDigital, or was it someone else. came
in here and posted that the date for this to happen was feb 22, 2012, at night. Did anything
happen on either of them nights? Has anyone heard anything? I know i haven't seen anything.

Kerry, just very very briefly, asked john about this and his reply was something similar that
his alien friends have so much going on at one time and their resources are so low that they
didn't have the time to do it.

Why make statements like this to the world then when you already know it isn't going to
happen. I can only think of one. Book sales. If aliens were really going to do something
to help us clean up the nwo, they would be here in full force, with enough resources to
get the job done. They wouldn't keep making up reasons for why they couldn't get the job
done. Oh!! I'm sorry. Us aliens don't understand your ways of measuring time. You thought
it was suppose to happen yesterday? Noooo.... Went meant 200 years from now.... This is
the usual story we get. We didn't understand your way of time.

I'm telling ya folks. John Kettler is another Bill Wood. Where does kerry find these people???

mountain_jim
24th February 2012, 15:52
I really appreciated the synopsis - thanks Dennis.

I am not sorry I did not arrange my evening for listening to this live. I invested the 3 hours later to listen to the first interview.

Sounds like I don't need to listen to this one at all - just read his blog updates and wait for confirmation to occur (if any does), as the info was already covered there with nothing much new in this interview.

Tommy
24th February 2012, 16:17
Hi,

For the record humanalien I think you are to quick to jump the gun, and you are not alone in doing so. I understand peoples lack of patience, oh, yes, Kerry is people too. Take it or leave it, that is what I have to say about us, or anyone else.

We are not here to sound or look pretty, we are here to get as much as possible of real information out.

And for those who say "Kerry should vet the WB's first.. etc etc)
Really? Listen too yourself and read our mission statement. Do you want MSM bias productions?

Please for the love of everything, everyone needs to get their "investigating hat's" on. I simply cannot believe how many people expect us (and others) to serve you "the full truth" and do nothing towards verifying, though not the case with everyone should be added.

Seriously, if we AS FELLOW HUMANS can do it, YOU CAN DO IT! Stop bitching and pick up a shovel if the hole in the road is preventing you from moving forward. That is what I say to anyone complaining, about anything.

To quote David Icke: "Human race, get off your knees!" - A sentiment I hold strong to my heart.

And lastly, this is Camelot, not "Project be nice and smile". It does not take much research to figure out how we conduct our work.. I find it funny when people cry about this after almost 6 years.. lol

All in good faith folks, love you guys and gal's regardless of differences :)

Lazlo
24th February 2012, 16:18
This is killing me:

Brockbrader, Kettler, Hoagland/Elenin , Wilcock breaking down....

The worst part of all of this is that serious whistleblowers won't be working with Kerry in the future. Can you imagine a Bob Dean or Clifford Stone coming to Camelot to do a first interview right now?

Tommy
24th February 2012, 16:20
This problem is in your mind and is simply not the case, at all.. In fact the very opposite is the situation.. :)


This is killing me:

Brockbrader, Kettler, Hoagland/Elenin , Wilcock breaking down....

The worst part of all of this is that serious whistleblowers won't be working with Kerry in the future. Can you imagine a Bob Dean or Clifford Stone coming to Camelot to do a first interview right now?

daci
24th February 2012, 16:25
mountain jim... you are right! Yesterday... you didn't miss anything... just actors playing their parts! Consciously or unconsciously... or mind controlled... it became a big THEATER!!!
Yes, people have to be aware and awake... but on that way... nobody will take it seriously anymore... we are not "novices"...!!!!;)
Be well all!!!

Tommy
24th February 2012, 16:29
we are not "novices"

Yes, everyone including myself and Kerry are exactly that, or neither one of us would be in this situation in the first place ;)

Lazlo
24th February 2012, 16:32
This problem is in your mind and is simply not the case, at all.. In fact the very opposite is the situation.. :)


This is killing me:

Brockbrader, Kettler, Hoagland/Elenin , Wilcock breaking down....

The worst part of all of this is that serious whistleblowers won't be working with Kerry in the future. Can you imagine a Bob Dean or Clifford Stone coming to Camelot to do a first interview right now?

I appreciate the info, but as they say "The proof is in the pudding". I'll remain silent on this for now and judge what material is produced in the future. I can say from the comments that I have seen that I am not the only person who feels this way.

This is not Kerry bashing. Camelot is the source that really got me trying to find the bottom of the rabbit hole, and the library is a testament to years of solid work. I am merely concerned that the recent track record has the potential to tarnish a gilded reputation.

And I am glad to hear that you are on the mend. Best wishes,

Laz

Tommy
24th February 2012, 16:41
I know, don't worry about it, just felt I could comment since I "could". I appreciate your posts, so please do not take this the wrong way.. Just weighing in part of our side "of the story" :)

But your point is very relevant, but know that if anyone knows how hard it is to do work in the WB arena it would be the WB's them-self.. Mostly we hear "thanks for hanging in there and not giving up", and this is a large part of what get's us going when things feel rough.

Again, I appreciate your intentions :)



This problem is in your mind and is simply not the case, at all.. In fact the very opposite is the situation.. :)


This is killing me:

Brockbrader, Kettler, Hoagland/Elenin , Wilcock breaking down....

The worst part of all of this is that serious whistleblowers won't be working with Kerry in the future. Can you imagine a Bob Dean or Clifford Stone coming to Camelot to do a first interview right now?

I appreciate the info, but as they say "The proof is in the pudding". I'll remain silent on this for now and judge what material is produced in the future. I can say from the comments that I have seen that I am not the only person who feels this way.

This is not Kerry bashing. Camelot is the source that really got me trying to find the bottom of the rabbit hole, and the library is a testament to years of solid work. I am merely concerned that the recent track record has the potential to tarnish a gilded reputation.

And I am glad to hear that you are on the mend. Best wishes,

Laz

Little Ishta
24th February 2012, 16:41
I listened to both interviews and my summary of these interviews are on the fence. Some things I did believe and some things I didn't believe. I just wish we had more proof though on what he is telling us. Evidence is important. When there is no evidence it is hard to believe. You have to have a back up(proof) on what you are relating to everyone. "Seeing is believing or believing in seeing"?

Camilo
24th February 2012, 18:15
After the first half an hour it was difficult to continue listening. He sounds vague in many of the statments he makes. Not very convincing, although I give him the benefit of the doubt. I thank Kerry for her continous effort to bring forth the best and the latest in every regard.

daci
24th February 2012, 18:36
I listened to both interviews and my summary of these interviews are on the fence. Some things I did believe and some things I didn't believe. I just wish we had more proof though on what he is telling us. Evidence is important. When there is no evidence it is hard to believe. You have to have a back up(proof) on what you are relating to everyone. "Seeing is believing or believing in seeing"?


I do not want to believe... I want to know.
Be well all.

marique3652
24th February 2012, 18:44
I have to agree with some other comments here about Kerry's presentation last night. I am not trying to be unkind, but she looked very tired, out of sorts, and at times like she was in a drug induced haze with her eyes rolling back, closing shut, etc, laying her head down on the keyboard, covering the screen with a notebook or something...Not impressive, but anyone is allowed to have an off game from time to time. I am NOT implying she was doing drugs, don't get me wrong, but you have to admit she was less than professional acting for being watched live, IMO and her eyes were doing some weird stuff. I am not trying to be critical, but if she had looked a little more alert and "with the program" the interview itself would have been far better on her end whether she thought JK was credible or not.

JK himself, I found not too credible but I am giving some more benefit of the doubt at this point and see what happens, but JKs presentation was a disappointment to me also. I do however truly appreciate Project Avalon and Kerry for trying to serve up useful and novel whistleblowing information, so please do not think less of me for saying that I thought the interview last night went less than admirably and not stellar at all, IMO.

I would also like to add that the comment by LJwheat about it being like "listening to a cow patty collecting flys" really cracked me up.....sorry....what a vision!!!! Thanks LJ for brightening my day.:lol::lol::lol:

DreamsInDigital
24th February 2012, 18:51
I think a HUGE part of the problem is the media, and even the government. Take for example the Tweets that were infact on Twitter covering the 40 Kamikaze Boats and Sub that were taken in broad daylight infront of HUNDREDS of witnesses including multiple MSM sources. Nothing was covered by MSM sources, because credentials and lives were threatened. The Tweets were removed by Twitter under demands of the CIA and DHS sighting "national security" issues per the response I got demanding why they had been removed. That alone should have gone Viral.

So far 8 plus, FEMA camps have been destroyed and left as smoking pits, but MSM and probably other Media Sources wont be reporting on those, because they'd first have to "admit" they existed in the first place (despite most Alternative Media followers already knowing this), then would open the huge can of worms concerning their potential uses, etc. Before they'd even come close to admitting that they're being destroyed and left as smoking pits. And then the questions would be coming up as "by who?" then they wouldn't have the answers, then likely the media as they are good at would use this oppertunity to twist it into some false flag attack by a "rogue" nation or false flag ET Invasion to instigate even quicker the use of surviving death and concentration camps. And, Martial Law. You really want to see that happen? I don't think so.

As for the Venezuelan Missiles, well the government has told Kettler repeatedly (which even he puts in comments on his blog) that "the government doesn't exist to provide content for your blogs." So he has not the option of getting overhead imagery from his Intel/Military Sources. Other Satellites that provide free content to the public at large don't update their imagery frequently enough to be of any use in these situations. And, no one that even comes close to living in the area can get close enough to where they were to get information themselves because the area is still under heavy guard. And, again. The media isn't going to cover this under threats, and also because it would be an distraction from the focus and rallieing towards the situation in the Persian Gulf/Middle East.

I think those of you that have "jumped to the island of conclusions" (ten points for anyone that gets THAT reference) have failed to understand the full scope and depth of the situation. This is as obvious as the sun rising each day in the sky.

So, let me pose a question to you, as it was something I was asked by my own ET/ED contacts to ask you guys. If you guys were provided "proof" in what ever form it takes, (and this obviously would not be coming from MSM sources or maybe even AM sources, or twitter, youtube etc). Whether it be video footage of the sites, photos, or anything of that sort. Would you believe it more then? Would you guys accept the evidence? Also, would that really HELP the situation or make it worse?

As for the one asking why he doesn't reveal who his ET/ED contacts are, it's for THEIR protection and his, maybe the Reptoids/Greys they are fighting against know who they are. But, I can say with absolute confidence that the majority of not all of the NOW/PTW that are being fought against here on the ground have absolutely no clue who these guys are. And it is common practice during a war, which this is a war. To not reveal the Order Of Battle. So please understand if and when it is possible and safe to do so, he will reveal which systems they are from. But, in the mean time respect his and their wishes to remain as safe as possible in this situation so they can continue to do the work they are here to do in protecting and saving as many innocent lives as possible and liberating this planet. Also the less amount of those that know who or which system they are from, the less they will get attacked by Opposing forces, and the less amounts of "on lookers" etc will try to contact them. Which would only delay their efforts more if they have to deal with any of that.

Also as he explained it's common practice in the media to use/quote "unidentified" sources, common everyday practice. And, it's accepted as par-the-course, so why is it such an "issue" when it comes to whistle blowers? And, why do you guys care so much WHO it comes from when their lives are already put at risk for revealing the information, do you want their deaths or potential deaths on your heads just because you have to know WHO the information came from? Why is it, something like "Highly Placed Military Source" isn't enough? It should be about the information, and we should respect the fact that THEY care enough to risk their lives and those of their family to provide it to us.

You really want a good example of the scope of what is done to Whistle Blowers that Speak To Loud or become to "famous" or "drawn to much attention." Start here: http://johnkettler.com/urgent-warning/ , and then research the amount of Whistle Blowers and those in the UFOlogy Camp that have been killed over the decades for revealing information such as what is put on his blogs etc. There are 100's if not Thousands at this point.

Think about it, and think about the situation we are in right now with the media, etc. Guys. Seriously. You should be showing more respect instead of being a bunch of insolent children. This is REALITY not Fantasy Camp.

Muzz
24th February 2012, 18:58
We are in a pickle here.

Can I be bold enough to say that the most of us agree that what is really going on in the black projects and murky underworld of geopolitics is way beyond what normal day to day reality holds for most?

So is there the possibilty that when a sliver of truth comes out, it will seem like too much of a leap for us. If the truth we are seeking is so "out there" we are very vulnerable to wild disinfo that makes us look ridiculous. But are we not also in danger of shying away from the very thing we seek.

The more fantastic this all gets the more I am starting to switch off to a lot of it. Not because I think its false but because I cant see anyway of sorting through all this alien stuff.

Is anyone else not getting very wary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBN9TGJgII0&feature=related) of recent ET/ED linked info?


"And remember Carol, the last card is the alien card. We are going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens and all of it is a lie." - Werner Von Braun

Could Rosin's and Greer's interpretation of this statement be wrong. Is theirs the only one?


Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. - Arthur C Clarke

How are these people discerning who they are in contact with?

How long has it been now since Tesla's research and the nazi secret projects went underground?

What toys do they have now?

Can we trust channelled material. Really? Not saying its all fake, but how do you tell the difference?

Just cause someone has a flying saucer does it mean they are not from earth, or spiritually evolved.

Dont take this being negative to the OP just think we should be cautious about any ET/ED info.

humanalien
24th February 2012, 19:12
My problem is not about identifying the race of aliens trying to help us out
but about story tellers trying to cash in on book sales by telling lies.

For now, to keep things calm, i won't include John K in this. The thing is that
stories like this have been going on for many years with no results at all, except
for the story teller cashing in.

I'm sure that i'm not the only one that has heard these stories for years and like
me, they are probably tired of all the lies. We need something to make us believe
that someone or something out there is here now and helping us behind the scenes.

They don't need to reveal their battle plans or to reveal their identities. Just give us
something to go on here. I guess we just need proof they are here.

Would this be ok with all of you here, if we just had some proof of them being here?

gooty64
24th February 2012, 19:16
Dreams in Digital,

Great post!

Well, we want to know how to help this situation-more than anything- that is what I want to do.

I am available to take action, today. So, an ounce of proof would be inspiring.

My vibration is off the charts so, i don't need to hear the L&L crowd tell me to raise my vibes anchor the light or meditate- anymore.

Ground crew guy here.

Regarding the 8 FEMA camps, what is the closest one you know that was destroyed near southern Minnesota? I will go take pictures.



So far 8 plus, FEMA camps have been destroyed and left as smoking pits, but MSM and probably other Media Sources wont be reporting on those, because they'd first have to "admit" they existed in the first place (despite most Alternative Media followers already knowing this), then would open the huge can of worms concerning their potential uses, etc

So, if all of this is taking place between the ET/ED's, what is the point of John Kettler doing these interviews with vague info and no proof.

What is the point of these whistleblowers videos?

And the announcement he made on the 21st-22nd about the ET/ED's clobbering the cabal really deserves an explanation better than...,

"the ET/ED's got too busy at the last minute to destroy the cabal tonight".

What to do?

aranuk
24th February 2012, 19:18
I think a HUGE part of the problem is the media, and even the government. Take for example the Tweets that were infact on Twitter covering the 40 Kamikaze Boats and Sub that were taken in broad daylight infront of HUNDREDS of witnesses including multiple MSM sources. Nothing was covered by MSM sources, because credentials and lives were threatened. The Tweets were removed by Twitter under demands of the CIA and DHS sighting "national security" issues per the response I got demanding why they had been removed. That alone should have gone Viral.

So far 8 plus, FEMA camps have been destroyed and left as smoking pits, but MSM and probably other Media Sources wont be reporting on those, because they'd first have to "admit" they existed in the first place (despite most Alternative Media followers already knowing this), then would open the huge can of worms concerning their potential uses, etc. Before they'd even come close to admitting that they're being destroyed and left as smoking pits. And then the questions would be coming up as "by who?" then they wouldn't have the answers, then likely the media as they are good at would use this oppertunity to twist it into some false flag attack by a "rogue" nation or false flag ET Invasion to instigate even quicker the use of surviving death and concentration camps. And, Martial Law. You really want to see that happen? I don't think so.

As for the Venezuelan Missiles, well the government has told Kettler repeatedly (which even he puts in comments on his blog) that "the government doesn't exist to provide content for your blogs." So he has not the option of getting overhead imagery from his Intel/Military Sources. Other Satellites that provide free content to the public at large don't update their imagery frequently enough to be of any use in these situations. And, no one that even comes close to living in the area can get close enough to where they were to get information themselves because the area is still under heavy guard. And, again. The media isn't going to cover this under threats, and also because it would be an distraction from the focus and rallieing towards the situation in the Persian Gulf/Middle East.

I think those of you that have "jumped to the island of conclusions" (ten points for anyone that gets THAT reference) have failed to understand the full scope and depth of the situation. This is as obvious as the sun rising each day in the sky.

So, let me pose a question to you, as it was something I was asked by my own ET/ED contacts to ask you guys. If you guys were provided "proof" in what ever form it takes, (and this obviously would not be coming from MSM sources or maybe even AM sources, or twitter, youtube etc). Whether it be video footage of the sites, photos, or anything of that sort. Would you believe it more then? Would you guys accept the evidence? Also, would that really HELP the situation or make it worse?

As for the one asking why he doesn't reveal who his ET/ED contacts are, it's for THEIR protection and his, maybe the Reptoids/Greys they are fighting against know who they are. But, I can say with absolute confidence that the majority of not all of the NOW/PTW that are being fought against here on the ground have absolutely no clue who these guys are. And it is common practice during a war, which this is a war. To not reveal the Order Of Battle. So please understand if and when it is possible and safe to do so, he will reveal which systems they are from. But, in the mean time respect his and their wishes to remain as safe as possible in this situation so they can continue to do the work they are here to do in protecting and saving as many innocent lives as possible and liberating this planet. Also the less amount of those that know who or which system they are from, the less they will get attacked by Opposing forces, and the less amounts of "on lookers" etc will try to contact them. Which would only delay their efforts more if they have to deal with any of that.

Also as he explained it's common practice in the media to use/quote "unidentified" sources, common everyday practice. And, it's accepted as par-the-course, so why is it such an "issue" when it comes to whistle blowers? And, why do you guys care so much WHO it comes from when their lives are already put at risk for revealing the information, do you want their deaths or potential deaths on your heads just because you have to know WHO the information came from? Why is it, something like "Highly Placed Military Source" isn't enough? It should be about the information, and we should respect the fact that THEY care enough to risk their lives and those of their family to provide it to us.

You really want a good example of the scope of what is done to Whistle Blowers that Speak To Loud or become to "famous" or "drawn to much attention." Start here: http://johnkettler.com/urgent-warning/ , and then research the amount of Whistle Blowers and those in the UFOlogy Camp that have been killed over the decades for revealing information such as what is put on his blogs etc. There are 100's if not Thousands at this point.

Think about it, and think about the situation we are in right now with the media, etc. Guys. Seriously. You should be showing more respect instead of being a bunch of insolent children. This is REALITY not Fantasy Camp.

First of all DID thank you for educating us all here about all the goings on. Can we find all the tweets on twitter that spoke about the boats all disappering? If I saw these I might change my mind on JK.

Stan

Lifebringer
24th February 2012, 19:33
Mad house last night. Couldn't see the guest, or couldn't hear Kerry, or could hear the guest low volume, or disconnect from total connection, or Just Kerry with no voice. The chat room was a patient mad house but they finally gave up and said they'd reschedule.

I can't wait, it was starting to get interesting at around 11pm, but then the shutdown again. Rinse and repeat.

humanalien
24th February 2012, 19:36
Mad house last night. Couldn't see the guest, or couldn't hear Kerry, or could hear the guest low volume, or disconnect from total connection, or Just Kerry with no voice. The chat room was a patient mad house but they finally gave up and said they'd reschedule.

I can't wait, it was starting to get interesting at around 11pm, but then the shutdown again. Rinse and repeat.

I had a similar problem. I kept loosing my connection. I think it was 4 times..

mountain_jim
24th February 2012, 19:38
Did anyone save a screen shot of those tweets before they were expunged? That would have been the obvious thing to do, if anyone who knows how the system works to erase web-reportage all the time had them on their screen at some point.

childs hood end
24th February 2012, 19:45
First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win.

one step left

keep up the good work kerry
:thumb:

mountain_jim
24th February 2012, 20:09
Reading up on some of Kettler's responses on his blog comment section this month offers more material to consider. I actually got this link from another forum, so I know I have not covered all he has written there yet.

http://johnkettler.com/etseds-disappear-b-58-doomsday-weapon/comment-page-1/#comment-872



susi
February 9, 2012 at 3:21 pm

2/9/12
With all due respect, where is the real “proof” of any of these reports? Yes, many of us know that those in charge are part of a psychopathic criminal cabal that is destroying everything on this planet –our only “home”. And we are at the top of a deliberately poisoned food chain that they have created. However, given a lifetime of malevolence in gov’t, why should we think that there are supposedly “other beings” who are benevolent and are going to come here from some unknown place “out there” and “rescue us” from this ongoing nightmare? Given our own horrific scenario, and we know absolutely NOTHING about “them” –why should we think that they have altruistic motives? Are we being duped again? Cui bono?For those of us who so enjoyed Star Trek and STTNG, we have been possibly “primed” to believe that out there in some unknown galaxy there are beings who have gone beyond violence and war, and live in peace and harmony. Perhaps is it true. It would be terrific it is! But for now, we have no PROOF of anything. All we have is the continued daily assaults of aerosols overhead of poisons, and thousands of other toxins in our food, and soil, and water, while the overwhelming majority of people are unaware of most of the nightmare.
No one is thinking clearly anymore, because of all the EMF-associated technology mixed in with all of the other environmental poisons that are damaging our ability to think analytically…and millions of people are very ill because of all of this.





John Kettler
February 9, 2012 at 6:48 pm

susi,
I recently answered a similar question. Here’s what I said:
Submitted on 2012/02/07 at 2:58 am | In reply to Maunagarjana.
Maunagarjana,
I understand your frustration, but I can’t just waltz into, say, Area 51 and check personally. Even the President can’t. His clearance isn’t high enough! I can say, though, that, that my highly cleared multiple terrestrial sources are reporting wholesale consternation from what I’m posting about and the events relating thereto. There is a witch hunt on to find the leaks, which has made it harder to get useful information, and my terrestrial sources are being cautious accordingly. There are things that are verifiable. Exercise Pacific Wave 11 (a tsunami exercise) had been planned by UNESCO for three years, the exercise plan is available and the ships “just happened” to be fully deployed in the strike zone for YU-55 right before it was mysteriously diverted. I don’t reveal my sources because I want them to go on living! Generally speaking, the truth is NOT to be found in the highly controlled mass media, which is why the Internet and alternative press are so important. This pearl practically destroyed Connie Chung’s career: “In all honesty, Johnny, we are often at the mercy of the White House for the news we report. Frequently, we simply repeat verbatim what the White House tells us.
– Connie Chung to Johnny Carson
So much for real reporting! http://www.people.carleton.edu/~rdobrow/quotes.html
I don’t expect anyone to take my claims at face value and say so explicitly on my site. My objective is to tell people what’s really going on, and where possible, I provide links, list books, tell where vids can be found, etc. But lots of times I can’t. The Enterprise/Aurora’s existence is readily verified because it’s Pulse Detonation Wave Engine (PDWE–invented by an Operation Paperclip scientist circa 1958–see Hitler’s Still-Secret & Suppressed Technologies, by Henry Stevens) creates a distinctive donut on a rope visual signature. THe PDWE had been reported and the contrail shown in Aviation Week & space Technology magazine in 1989, in an article by William Scott. Here’s an update from 2004 http://www.aliendave.com/Article_04_UtahDonuntcontrail.html Here are some photos of the actual contrail. http://www.thetempleofawakening.com/2011/09/what-they-saw-in-the-sky-over-yosemite/ I have talked to people who have monitored Enterprise reports to the ground during climbout, attaining 100K feet in a couple of minutes, heard reports of people being blown off the toilet when it takes off from Beale AFB, in California, and something’s been caught by a weather satellite screaming from England? to Area 51. The track is highly visible from space http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm64/shtblocker/contrail.jpg Aviation writer Bill Sweetman had observer reports many years ago of the thing being in-flight refueled over the North Sea, and there were two F-111?s flying in formation with it, neatly providing a size comparison.
This illustrates just one example of how lack of knowledge in a subject area can lead to the erroneous conclusion there’s nothing underpinning what I write. I spent over 11 years in military aerospace, knew something was going on in the vault next door, and when I was cleared, discovered an entire stealth aircraft design program was there! This stuff is run on compartmentation and need to know, and what I’m reporting very few people in the country know. This precisely why I’ve been harassed by an evident disinformation agent, had my site intruded on wholesale, as verified by a computer expert, am being smeared as a lunatic and a drug user, etc. If I wasn’t a threat, they wouldn’t bother. I’m hitting them where it hurts!
Much of what I write about, I was immersed in professionally for years. For example, I was one of the founder of Rockwell’s DEWWG (Directed Energy Weapon Working Group), have briefed laser threats, nonnuclear EMP threats, HPM (High Power Microwave) weapons and more. If the ETs/EDS say they’ve done something, and my terrestrial sources with nosebleed clearances confirm this multiply and independently, that’s about as solid as it gets, given the limitations I work under. I know for a fact some in the Intelligence Community would love to kill me, but I’ve got people watching my back, as well as some “upstairs.” My life is intensely surreal, but the situation is what it is. Frequently, I have trouble believing it myself. But when a boomer Israel isn’t supposed to have is reported as having missed multiple check-ins, a Chinese hydrographic ship reports breaking up noises after the ETs/EDs warned it would be crushed, and when the wreck’s found and photographed sans missile compartment, and with a gaping hole where the reactor should be, what’s the rational conclusion? And I haven’t even mentioned the reaming the French naval HQ types got from our naval attache!
Since the International Banksters operate behind the scenes anyway, it’ll take some time before the effects show, but show they will. “People who aren’t” will start to deteriorate right before our eyes, and there will be unmistakable demonstrations of off planet power at work, things the government simply can’t cover up. Things that’ll go viral when they occur.
Hope this helps!
Susi, to this I’ll add that my multiple terrestrial sources are first rate and repeatedly proven, and that the ETs/EDs’ actions have been independently confirmed by terrestrial sources who risk their lives to get this information to the public. See Urgent Warning page for what I mean. This is no joke, no game. Lots of black project/UFO researchers and UFO insiders have come to grief: Danny Casolaro, Morris K. Jessup, SecNav James Forrestal who was “suicided” right through Venetian blinds and hurled to his death, maybe even JFK (Google “Burned Memo”) was killed by then-MJ-12 for wanting to reveal the truth of UFOs to the American people. Nixon talked and got a free trip to Bethesda Naval Hospital. When he finally emerged, he had nothing to say about UFOs.The Justice For Military Personnel letter says the CIA kills military personnel who talk about UFOs. I’ve had veiled death threats myself, repeatedly. Meanwhile, there’s a whispering campaign in progress intended to discredit me by portraying me as crazy and whacked out on drugs. The heavy hitters who reviewed my book (Reviews) are being blocked from posting their reviews on Kindle, etc. I know people who’ve been set up by the Office of Special Investigations (Linda Howe), after being shown film, which was denied after do arrangements were set up with HBO, know of people who sold out another other researcher (Paul Bennewitz, who outed Dulce and a downed atomic powered craft) and helped drive him mad to get insider UFO information (Bill Moore, by his own admission) and know Norio Hayakawa, who was harassed and arrested on public land and had to sue to get his camera back. He was also buzzed at 10 feet over the roof of his van while driving–by a huge CH-53 helicopter. I hope this gives you some sense of what’s at stake here and the lengths the government/shadow government is willing to go to to keep the lid on.

.......

John Kettler
February 11, 2012 at 10:06 pm

susi,
There is a LOT of disinformation out there, but the sum total of information I’ve encountered is that this love and light model of spacefaring/dimensionfaring races is hooey. There’s a war raging right now, and this planet is vital. The liberation of Earth and her children from the long entrenched Dark Forces is underway, for finally the “good guys, following the crushing of the Lizards, are winning.

Selene
24th February 2012, 20:22
Take for example the Tweets that were in fact on Twitter covering the 40 Kamikaze Boats and Sub that were taken in broad daylight in front of HUNDREDS of witnesses including multiple MSM sources

I admire your spirited defense DID, and respect your opinion but can you quote or actually reproduce even one of these tweets or twits for us to see? Any of these supposed “hundreds” of eyewitness reports? Even one? And even one MSM snippet from a credentialed reporter – even if the stuff never got into print or broadcast? You alluded in an earlier post elsewhere to some personal contacts at AP (Associated Press) for the Venezuela story, so you must also be aware that AP does not actually have an office or staff in Venezuela….

You are making some very ambitious claims here. They do, with respect, require a modicum of verification. So far, you have been the only source alluding to these ‘events’, as far as I know. Perhaps you can supply some other links to recognized sources?


So far 8 plus, FEMA camps have been destroyed and left as smoking pits…

Again, any sources? Photos, links or other evidence? MSM “admitting the camps exist” isn’t the issue here… as you’ve said, enough AltMedia types know the locations etc, so that if there’s anything to see or know about I’m sure AltMedia bloggers would be going crazy online right now if they had a piece of this…. Regrettably, alluding only to your own ET contacts is, well, “inconclusive” at best.


And then the questions would be coming up as [destroyed] "by whom?"

‘By whom?’ is premature, I think. What we first need to confirm is ‘what?’ Then we can consider the possible sources of the events, no?


As for the Venezuelan Missiles…. no one that even comes close to living in the area can get close enough to where they were to get information themselves because the area is still under heavy guard. And, again. The media isn't going to cover this under threats…

Again, you seem quite knowledgeable about the location here and its particularities. Without indicating your sources, giving us even a few real coordinates or hints might allow other investigators to see what they might find on satellite maps, p-shopping notwithstanding.


So, let me pose a question to you, as it was something I was asked by my own ET/ED contacts to ask you guys. If you guys were provided "proof" in whatever form it takes, (and this obviously would not be coming from MSM sources or maybe even AM sources, or twitter, youtube etc). Whether it be video footage of the sites, photos, or anything of that sort. Would you believe it more then?

We all know that to the permaskeptic, no “proof” is ever possible. That’s not what we’re seeking here. As you know, there’s a difference between “proof positive, which is irrefutable, undeniable legal evidence” and the “evidence” itself: the trails, the wisps, the other reports, the witnesses, documents etc which are open to examination.


Would you guys accept the evidence? Also, would that really HELP the situation or make it worse?

I think we’d all at least be eager to examine any evidence, if you have any. And yes, it would help a great deal. You must realize, Dreams, that at this point you’ve perhaps inadvertently put yourself in the position of the unfortunate Blossom Goodchild with unsupported claims and only “my ET’s” to back them up.

Please, I’m not questioning your sincerity or good intentions here, I’m only asking that you not put yourself in the vulnerable position of being the sole verification for John Kettler’s claims.

As far as Kettler “not revealing the order of battle”, if so, he certainly pulled a major f*ckp by announcing these ‘attacks on major installations’ ahead of time. Personally, I can’t think of a bigger, more foolish violation of Operations Security that to announce “sneak attacks” a day ahead, giving the enemy plenty of time to seek cover….


it's common practice in the media to use/quote "unidentified" sources, common everyday practice. And, it's accepted as par-the-course, so why is it such an "issue" when it comes to whistle blowers?

Again, perhaps you misunderstand. No one is asking any truly concealed whistleblowers to blow their cover here. Only that if there is any tangible evidence from any public sources that you kindly link it here so that you are not left to twist in the wind alone.

As for MSM media quoting “unidentified sources”, most people are not aware that before that can be done, a reporter’s sources must be confidentially confirmed by other respected reporters or editors before that report can be published. Others have to confirm the info. That, also, is “standard practice”. To quote a truly unidentified source is only done in a context where there is other, verifiable evidence and other sources are willing to be quoted on the record. Otherwise, there’s no story, only rumor.

Your support of John Kettler is passionate and admirable and I fully respect that. But please, please help yourself here by providing some backup.

All my best wishes,

Selene

aranuk
24th February 2012, 20:52
Yes Jim, if we could see something tangible that can be at least verified by a few dozen people that would be at least something to go on. A start. We don't need physical proof, we are not materialistic. If a con man or woman were trying to sell us a bargain we would want to see what our money was buying. I was in business for 40 years in the building trade and I would never have parted with a penny until at least I saw what I was buying. If I didn't I wouldn't have lasted in business that long. Trust everyone but cut the cards first.

Stan

Debra
24th February 2012, 21:50
Good point Operator. But I don´t think these people are necessarily willing players to throw disinfo. There is something very messy about the testimony coming forth from this latest crop of interviewees. I sense they are tampered with, if they are genuine. It is like their synapses are being cut and pasted all over the shop, hence the unsteady delivery that makes you think they don´t know their stuff. As we know, or should by now, this is very possible, via mind control mechanisms. It is a situation I have been in and it is like talking through a tar pit.

[QUOTE=Operator;435205]Well, the earliest info that 'Charles' had to offer to Bill is that the alternative media would be heavily messed with. And I think he was right.
They did it in such an unexpected way ... nobody saw it coming. So the image of the three of them (Bill, Kerry, David Wilcock) are now damaged.

CD7
24th February 2012, 21:51
DL....tht gave me a good laugh, thx :laugh:

Operator
24th February 2012, 22:27
Good point Operator. But I don´t think these people are necessarily willing players to throw disinfo. There is something very messy about the testimony coming forth from this latest crop of interviewees. I sense they are tampered with, if they are genuine. It is like their synapses are being cut and pasted all over the shop, hence the unsteady delivery that makes you think they don´t know their stuff. As we know, or should by now, this is very possible, via mind control mechanisms. It is a situation I have been in and it is like talking through a tar pit.


Agreed, there are many ways possible ... especially when you want some surprise element the use of 'programmed' insiders is ideal.
I too have seen some of it myself (as an observer). At first you don't believe what you just experienced. Then later when you unclog
the elements of the experience (rewind, replay and place it in the right sequence) it starts to make more sense.

The trick here is not to throw away the baby with the bathwater ... better rinse the dirt of the gems that are also contained in there.

BMJ
25th February 2012, 07:48
So, let me pose a question to you, as it was something I was asked by my own ET/ED contacts to ask you guys. If you guys were provided "proof" in what ever form it takes, (and this obviously would not be coming from MSM sources or maybe even AM sources, or twitter, youtube etc). Whether it be video footage of the sites, photos, or anything of that sort. Would you believe it more then? Would you guys accept the evidence? Also, would that really HELP the situation or make it worse?.

Exactly, and would satisfying your curiousity inspire to assist and take action?

Solstyse
25th February 2012, 09:13
^^^^^^^^^^^
What they all said.
I was there last night too, very unprofessional, total disregard for the audience, info was, whatever.