US Woman left brain dead after being tasered while handcuffed

[Calz]

This sh!t is so very wrong. Cop was right there ... how fast can a woman run while handcuffed (... err ... will spare the donuts impaired speed of the persuit).

:gaah:

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4axIgn6Gbs8

This video showing cop tasering handcuffed girl helped clear 267-pound Trooper Daniel Cole of wrongdoing and have released this disturbing dash cam video that captured him tasing a 100 pound, 20 year old handcuffed girl in the back as she fled.
The Florida Department of Law Enforcement determined Trooper Daniel Cole's "use of force" was justified when he tased the woman last September at the FHP Pinellas Park Substation and cleared him of wrongdoing.

The fleeing woman, Danielle Maudsley, 20, suffered severe brain damage after hitting her head on the concrete and has been in a persistent vegetative state ever since.

The video shows Maudsley fleeing a back door of the substation with Cole following closely behind.

Maudsley was arrested for her alleged involvement in two hit-and-run crashes and driving without a license.

Cole brought Maudsley to the substation to complete his paperwork before taking her to the Pinellas County Jail, according to FHP reports.

As she enters the parking lot, Cole deploys his taser and Maudsley hits the ground hard, with her head slamming into the asphalt.

"What were you thinking? What are you, stupid?," Cole can be heard asking Maudsley on the video.
"I can't get up," said Maudsley.
"I don't want you to get up," said Cole.
"I can't get up," Maudsley said again. The last words Maudsley has spoken since being tasered.

On the video, Maudsley loses consciousness about two minutes after hitting her head.
Maudsley's mother said the trooper should have used other means to stop her daughter from fleeing.
"He was right behind her. He could've reached out," Maudsley said. "It was unnecessary."
The mother hired defense attorney Kevin Haylsett, who put FHP on notice for a lawsuit.

Hayslett said Cole violated FHP's taser policy which states:
"Fleeing cannot be the sole reason for the deployment."
"When you shoot someone in the back, and they're running away, all that force -- as you saw when Danielle's head hit the concrete -- that's why they don't allow you to do that, because you can have horrible tragedies like this," Hayslett said.

With any rule, there is an exception.

An Office of Inspector General Investigation Unit report states: "Although the FHP policy on Electronic Control Devices states that a member should not use the device on a handcuffed prisoner, it also provides that there may be situations that conflict with this policy."

The report goes on to state: "In this situation, Maudsley ... removed one of her handcuffs while in the back of Cole's patrol car, and moved her handcuffs from behind her back, to in front of her body, as she attempted to flee the FHP Station. In addition, Maudsley was running towards US Highway 19 which is a high volume road."

According to the report, Maudsley had oxycodone and cocaine in her system at the time.

"The Florida Department of Law Enforcement conducted an independent review of the incident," FHP spokesperson Sgt. Steve Gaskins said. "Their investigation found that the trooper's actions were legal and within the scope of his duties."

"He would've been better off to use his nightstick on her than he would a taser," Hayslett said.

The attorney also pointed out that Maudsley only weighs about 100 pounds.

In the report, Cole said he chose to use the taser because he "felt she was more susceptible to being injured if he attempted to tackle her." Cole weighs approximately 267 pounds.

Hayslett called the dash cam video disturbing. "It's one of those videos -- when you see it and you watch her head hit the pavement -- that it's hard to get those images out of your head," he said.

Maudsley's mom said her daughter's prognosis is not good. She is likely to remain in a vegetative state.

Maudsley is now in a Ft. Lauderdale rehab center that specializes in severe brain injuries.

[crosby]

very sad indeed. makes me cry.:(
corson

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

What a waste of a beautiful life.
Its high time that folk done something, because all this love 'n' light & forgiveness to is killing people.

[Ria]

Question;
If enough of us here sent healing to help the neurons in her brain to heal.
or
Is this a lesson for the police officer to experience.
or
Is this to mobilize public out cry.
or
If she was healed, would this nullify all concerns for using Taseres.
or
Could it be argued that there had been an agreement with the young lady's higher self for the experience.

Personally this is hell for her family and for all to be living in this insanity.
Collectively how do we come together to heal every thing?
How much do we wont to?

[pugwash84]

What ever reason she was running, was not enough reason to kill her. That is vile, they want people to be scared of the police as people are easier to control then. What a great loss of a beautiful young lady. This is what is wrong with the world. Humans with a lack of humanity. So sad. They said hundreds are killed from those weapons, you would think they would stop using them after reports of a couple of deaths, this is so sad.

[meeradas]

Cannot watch

[Eric J (Viking)]

Bloody well tragic...

Its at times like this when I think, let Gaia rip and shake of all the unwanted infested piles of crap ... :rapture:

Start afresh ...

viking

[Intranuclear]

Blood boiling!

[king anthony]

This sh!t is so very wrong. Cop was right there ... how fast can a woman run while handcuffed (... err ... will spare the donuts impaired speed of the persuit).

I say, these things are for the population allows it...


very sad indeed. makes me cry

...and then what (said with understanding)...


What a waste of a beautiful life.
Its high time that folk done something, because all this love 'n' light & forgiveness to is killing people.

...well said...



Collectively how do we come together to heal every thing?
How much do we wont to?

...to let go of feel-good and stop the issues at the sources; "want" appears little when many/most fear of doing what can be done...


...you would think they would stop using them after reports of...

...things are as wanted (by "the few") and accepted (by the masses); if the (corporate) world is being run by sociopaths (example (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MWpxH-RlFQ&list=WLDC5E36F417113861&index=7&feature=plpp_video) and example (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF5o-KqPIEM&list=WLDC5E36F417113861&index=1&feature=plpp_video)) then what of "the few's" minions... are they sociopathic as well (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS2BkmYx3Ec)... have thought and ask, are they (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d0IIRquxIE&feature=related)...


...when I think, let Gaia rip and shake of all...

...an example of diverting responsibility and such with the feel-good of having "another" do with rescue, even seeking those things which Natural Law has no authority over.


@ ALL

I say, although I quote those who took the time to post, my comments are not directed at them as I have used their comments to highlight a general point - in part, the words being something common with most.

[jackovesk]

This sh!t is so very wrong. Cop was right there ... how fast can a woman run while handcuffed (... err ... will spare the donuts impaired speed of the persuit).

I say, these things are for the population allows it...


very sad indeed. makes me cry

...and then what (said with understanding)...


What a waste of a beautiful life.
Its high time that folk done something, because all this love 'n' light & forgiveness to is killing people.

...well said...



Collectively how do we come together to heal every thing?
How much do we wont to?

...to let go of feel-good and stop the issues at the sources; "want" appears little when many/most fear of doing what can be done...


...you would think they would stop using them after reports of...

...things are as wanted (by "the few") and accepted (by the masses); if the (corporate) world is being run by sociopaths (example (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MWpxH-RlFQ&list=WLDC5E36F417113861&index=7&feature=plpp_video) and example (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF5o-KqPIEM&list=WLDC5E36F417113861&index=1&feature=plpp_video)) then what of "the few's" minions... are they sociopathic as well (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS2BkmYx3Ec)... have thought and ask, are they (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d0IIRquxIE&feature=related)...


...when I think, let Gaia rip and shake of all...

...an example of diverting responsibility and such with the feel-good of having "another" do with rescue, even seeking those things which Natural Law has no authority over.


@ ALL

I say, although I quote those who took the time to post, my comments are not directed at them as I have used their comments to highlight a general point - in part, the words being something common with most.

:bump:

Some of you may say WTF..?

KA is right, America do something for Christ's sake (DO ANYTHING)..!

It might be you or a member of your family (NEXT)..!

Enough Already..!

[Eric J (Viking)]

.


...when I think, let Gaia rip and shake of all...

...an example of diverting responsibility and such with the feel-good of having "another" do with rescue, even seeking those things which Natural Law has no authority over.



I'm afraid if I took personal responsibility, I'd be locked up inside...

They'll be taken care of one way or another...

viking

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Oempf, now that was disgusting and completely unnecesary, sh!t for brains out of shape fat slob cop couldnt run ten yards without having a heart attack , he will probably get away with it too.

I hope other cops will learn a thing or two or three from this incident and they will be held accountable, this just cannot go on any longer.

[Maria Stade]

This is just plain wrong. Police job is to protect people and she was no threat to anyone.
A beautiful young woman was put in a condition as almost dead, for what ?
Was the police to lazy to run ?
What law gives a police man the right to use such big force on a slender little being ?
If they cant use them right then they should not use them at all.
Its a simple thing to figure oute that concrete is hard and that it will damage the head when a person fall, you dont have to be Einsteine to figure that out.

[Cjay]

Unbelievable! The cop was almost within arm's reach of the girl when he stopped running to fire the taser. What a lazy prick!

The specifics of this case, while sad and tragic, are almost irrelevant. This is a typical example of how out of balance the American system has become. And many other countries are heading down a similar, self-destructive path. What happened to "serve and protect"? What happened to common sense? What happened to fairness and justice?

We MUST stand up against oppression. Wake up your neighbours. Grab your pitch-forks.

[jackovesk]

.


...when I think, let Gaia rip and shake of all...

...an example of diverting responsibility and such with the feel-good of having "another" do with rescue, even seeking those things which Natural Law has no authority over.



I'm afraid if I took personal responsibility, I'd be locked up inside...

They'll be taken care of one way or another...

viking

Unfortunately Viking that is 'NOT' the case...:nono:

Its 'High Time' Americans took these type of injustice's (Abuse of Power) personally...

At the very least, tell every single person you know even if your 'Congressman' is (CORRUPT)


I'm afraid if I took personal responsibility, I'd be locked up inside...

Too late for that my friend, your going to be 'LOCKED UP' in some way shape or form just for being a US Citizen..!

The only advice I would give any American, is if you still believe in (LIBERTY or FREEDOM) you'd better start putting your hand up and (HELP) getting Ron Paul elected in 2012...:yes4:

For if you don't even bother to try, you won't get any sympathy from me...

In fact if your present Govt. has there own way, WWIII would already be underway and you' be dead..!

Sad but (TRUE) my friend...:yes4:

[Eric J (Viking)]

.


...when I think, let Gaia rip and shake of all...

...an example of diverting responsibility and such with the feel-good of having "another" do with rescue, even seeking those things which Natural Law has no authority over.



I'm afraid if I took personal responsibility, I'd be locked up inside...

They'll be taken care of one way or another...

viking

Unfortunately Viking that is 'NOT' the case...:nono:

Its 'High Time' Americans took these type of injustice's (Abuse of Power) personally...

At the very least, tell every single person you know even if your 'Congressman' is (CORRUPT)


I'm afraid if I took personal responsibility, I'd be locked up inside...

Too late for that my friend, your going to be 'LOCKED UP' in some way shape or form just for being a US Citizen..!

The only advice I would give any American, is if you still believe in (LIBERTY or FREEDOM) you'd better start putting your hand up and (HELP) getting Ron Paul elected in 2012...:yes4:

For if you don't even bother to try, you won't get any sympathy from me...

In fact if your present Govt. has there own way, WWIII would already be underway and you' be dead..!

Sad but (TRUE) my friend...:yes4:

What's this...lets have another dig at viking ... you need to dig deeper my friend...

All I can say its good job I'm not an American citizen Jacko...get your facts right before you start waffling!!

Of late you seem somewhat erratic...take a break dude...you need it.

viking

[jorr lundstrom]

Might is right as usual. And as accountability can only be a voluntary act,
the officer will get away with it. I suppose he just went home, having
dinner with his family and boasted over wot a good guy he is. :hurt:

[jackovesk]

.


...when I think, let Gaia rip and shake of all...

...an example of diverting responsibility and such with the feel-good of having "another" do with rescue, even seeking those things which Natural Law has no authority over.



I'm afraid if I took personal responsibility, I'd be locked up inside...

They'll be taken care of one way or another...

viking

Unfortunately Viking that is 'NOT' the case...:nono:

Its 'High Time' Americans took these type of injustice's (Abuse of Power) personally...

At the very least, tell every single person you know even if your 'Congressman' is (CORRUPT)


I'm afraid if I took personal responsibility, I'd be locked up inside...

Too late for that my friend, your going to be 'LOCKED UP' in some way shape or form just for being a US Citizen..!

The only advice I would give any American, is if you still believe in (LIBERTY or FREEDOM) you'd better start putting your hand up and (HELP) getting Ron Paul elected in 2012...:yes4:

For if you don't even bother to try, you won't get any sympathy from me...

In fact if your present Govt. has there own way, WWIII would already be underway and you' be dead..!

Sad but (TRUE) my friend...:yes4:

What's this...lets have another dig at viking ... you need to dig deeper my friend...

All I can say its good job I'm not an American citizen Jacko...get your facts right before you start waffling!!

Of late you seem somewhat erratic...take a break dude...you need it.

viking

From your commentary, I assumed you were American...

I was 'Wrong'...

Forgive me Viking, I did'nt realise you would be Ok and be automatically protected by the GFL Aliens...

The rest of us will just try have to stand up for what is right...

Can you please, :help: the rest of us who have to stand up against Tyranny and 'Fight' for our rights..?

[Eric J (Viking)]

.


...when I think, let Gaia rip and shake of all...

...an example of diverting responsibility and such with the feel-good of having "another" do with rescue, even seeking those things which Natural Law has no authority over.



I'm afraid if I took personal responsibility, I'd be locked up inside...

They'll be taken care of one way or another...

viking

Unfortunately Viking that is 'NOT' the case...:nono:

Its 'High Time' Americans took these type of injustice's (Abuse of Power) personally...

At the very least, tell every single person you know even if your 'Congressman' is (CORRUPT)


I'm afraid if I took personal responsibility, I'd be locked up inside...

Too late for that my friend, your going to be 'LOCKED UP' in some way shape or form just for being a US Citizen..!

The only advice I would give any American, is if you still believe in (LIBERTY or FREEDOM) you'd better start putting your hand up and (HELP) getting Ron Paul elected in 2012...:yes4:

For if you don't even bother to try, you won't get any sympathy from me...

In fact if your present Govt. has there own way, WWIII would already be underway and you' be dead..!

Sad but (TRUE) my friend...:yes4:

What's this...lets have another dig at viking ... you need to dig deeper my friend...

All I can say its good job I'm not an American citizen Jacko...get your facts right before you start waffling!!

Of late you seem somewhat erratic...take a break dude...you need it.

viking

From your commentary, I assumed you were American...

I was 'Wrong'...

Forgive me Viking, I did'nt realise you would be Ok and be automatically protected by the GFL Aliens...

The rest of us will just try have to stand up for what is right...

Can you please, :help: the rest of us who have to stand up against Tyranny and 'Fight' for our rights..?

LOL ... no worries Jacko ... We are all in the same boat, so to speak...some more comfy than others...and we will all do as much as we can whilst in this mechanised reality...until then... SHINE my friend.

viking

[TargeT]

I'm armed everywhere I go... I'd have a REAL hard time not defending a citizen in a case like this (which kind of makes me nervous, I know what the outcome would be there...)... causing harm to someone because your lazy would cause me to get a little agressive...

but then, I'm an OathKeeper... this kind of situation is why we exsist.

[Little Ishta]

I for one wish they would get rid of the tasers. It does more harm than good. The cop in question is not smart... tasering someone who has handcuffs on is not a bright idea. Can imagine what the voltage was like.

[Maia Gabrial]

I hope her family sues the crap out of him and the police dept....

[TargeT]

I for one wish they would get rid of the tasers. It does more harm than good. The cop in question is not smart... tasering someone who has handcuffs on is not a bright idea. Can imagine what the voltage was like.

its actually not that bad, I'd rather be tazed than peppersprayed any day (but I react badly to OC) its over quick and not overly painful; BUT:

the problem I see is that a tazer is like a temporary "off switch" for humans,, you can immedately shut someone down with little or no effort & this example is a perfect one, because once you have the power to do that you WILL exersize it... It's a part of the psycosis that is humanity (currently in our un-empathetic world).

This is not the first nor will it be the last incident.

[Guest]

Cannot watch

I can't watch it either meeradas.

Love

Nora

[Little Ishta]

I for one wish they would get rid of the tasers. It does more harm than good. The cop in question is not smart... tasering someone who has handcuffs on is not a bright idea. Can imagine what the voltage was like.

its actually not that bad, I'd rather be tazed than peppersprayed any day (but I react badly to OC) its over quick and not overly painful; BUT:

the problem I see is that a tazer is like a temporary "off switch" for humans,, you can immedately shut someone down with little or no effort & this example is a perfect one, because once you have the power to do that you WILL exersize it... It's a part of the psycosis that is humanity (currently in our un-empathetic world).

This is not the first nor will it be the last incident.

Well, lets put it this way, I do not want to be "shut down" or pepper sprayed. I like to be in control of my body. Once again its all about control... tsk tsk.
Sadly but true it is not the first nor will it be the last incident.

[TargeT]

Well, lets put it this way, I do not want to be "shut down" or pepper sprayed. I like to be in control of my body. Once again its all about control... tsk tsk.
Sadly but true it is not the first nor will it be the last incident.

Everything can be traced back to Ego... if we could just collectively confront & overcome ego the world would instantly change... but ego is not an easy fish to catch... (watch the movie REVOLVER (2005) if you haven't.. it illistrates this point beautifully).


If people would quit externalizing their own power police would quickly be seen as a waste of money..... of course so would laywers & the court systems...

There only needs to be Two laws:

Do everything you agree to do (the basis of all contract law)

Do not infringe on others or their property (the basis of all criminal law)

These two laws are THOUSANDS of years old and usualy reffered to as "common law".... Common Law is constitutionaly the law that should be dictating every one in the US... we just got tricked into signing contracts that make the UCC applicable to us (among other various legal trickery...)

[Calz]

I for one wish they would get rid of the tasers. It does more harm than good. The cop in question is not smart... tasering someone who has handcuffs on is not a bright idea. Can imagine what the voltage was like.

Agreed.

In this case the damage done is blamed on the fall (which is quite possible in this case) but as evidence clearly shows there have been many deaths immediately following taser use. Of course, collusion reigns supreme and that is never listed as the "cause of death" in an official capacity.

Shifting gears just a bit ... posted one recently on the DHS approval and roll-out of the *armed* very small drones to be used domestically in America. Has a grenade launcher but more on topic they are also armed with tasers. The option to "run down" or "handcuff" will not be available when/if that plan goes active. One has to wonder how that would work. Is it simply going to hover above an alleged "terrorist" and continue to tase them every few minutes until police arrive???

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40751-Gaak-...-coming-to-friendly-skies-near-you-...

:twitch:

[king anthony]

I'm afraid if I took personal responsibility, I'd be locked up inside... They'll be taken care of one way or another...

I say, until one stops giving "them" the authority, then one may just find themselves on their knees at "their" mercy. There is more of the population then there is of "them" and with numbers alone the population can do what needs to be done - for when one stands alone "doom (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17297-Ruby-Ridge-Waco-Texas-and-William-Cooper-What-Really-Happened)" will be. You say, "They'll be taken care of.." - by whom, how and when, for is this not what those (generations) before (and some/many now) had said with "hope"!?


Some of you may say WTF..? KA is right, America do something for Christ's sake (DO ANYTHING)..! It might be you or a member of your family (NEXT)..! Enough Already..!

If I may add...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO36y78dXAs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO36y78dXAs

[Eric J (Viking)]

I'm afraid if I took personal responsibility, I'd be locked up inside... They'll be taken care of one way or another...

I say, until one stops giving "them" the authority, then one may just find themselves on their knees at "their" mercy. There is more of the population then there is of "them" and with numbers alone the population can do what needs to be done - for when one stands alone "doom (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17297-Ruby-Ridge-Waco-Texas-and-William-Cooper-What-Really-Happened)" will be. You say, "They'll be taken care of.." - by whom, how and when, for is this not what those (generations) before (and some/many now) had said with "hope"!?


Some of you may say WTF..? KA is right, America do something for Christ's sake (DO ANYTHING)..! It might be you or a member of your family (NEXT)..! Enough Already..!

If I may add...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO36y78dXAs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO36y78dXAs

I understand how you feel Anthony...and why...

Yes we have given them authority....but alas we never knew the rules...they have been very clever in their control mechanism...however...

Something tells me are approaching the end of a cycle...the end result will not be as previous times...the 'wheat will be separated from the chaff' ...

They will be taken care of

viking

[king anthony]

I understand how you feel Anthony...and why... Yes we have given them authority....but alas we never knew the rules...they have been very clever in their control mechanism...however... Something tells me are approaching the end of a cycle...the end result will not be as previous times...the 'wheat will be separated from the chaff'... They will be taken care of

If you understand the words I say, then you would not say how I feel, for my words do not reflect any emotions (feelings). What one knew before knowing they were a "resource" matters not, for what is known now allows one to make an informed decision to do what is needed.

To rely on the ending of a cycle, differs not to waiting for "some other" to "save" all. I say, if human beings cannot be heard as one voice now, then the cycle that has been will be again - for the said is needed in order to end the cycle that has been and in order to be able to do this in the great abyss, human beings must first learn how to do this with "earthly" things.

I am not attacking you - I am simply being clear.

[Eric J (Viking)]

I understand how you feel Anthony...and why... Yes we have given them authority....but alas we never knew the rules...they have been very clever in their control mechanism...however... Something tells me are approaching the end of a cycle...the end result will not be as previous times...the 'wheat will be separated from the chaff'... They will be taken care of

If you understand the words I say, then you would not say how I feel, for my words do not reflect any emotions (feelings). What one knew before knowing they were a "resource" matters not, for what is known now allows one to make an informed decision to do what is needed.

To rely on the ending of a cycle, differs not to waiting for "some other" to "save" all. I say, if human beings cannot be heard as one voice now, then the cycle that has been will be again - for the said is needed in order to end the cycle that has been and in order to be able to do this in the great abyss, human beings must first learn how to do this with "earthly" things.

I am not attacking you - I am simply being clear.

I know you are not attacking me Anthony...please do not think I am adopting that mindset...

There are many cycles within one big cycle...we are nearing the end of that one big cycle.

Have 'faith' ...

viking

[Lifebringer]

Must be his mind parasites. I've noticed it too. It's getting to where I can look at his avitar now, and see something is "jack nicholson "shining" mentality. I don't know if it's parasites, but something is up besides purging.

[king anthony]

There are many cycles within one big cycle...we are nearing the end of that one big cycle. Have 'faith'...

Is say, there is one cycle that has been for humanity from the time of their being and this is the "why" human beings are - something most cannot accept. This is the cycle that should be the concern; however, the feel-good that is for most does not allow most to see beyond this. This is not about (the fiction) "faith" - it is about what is.

[Arrowwind]

I would say that a civil suit could claim that cops income for the rest of his life.

Tasers were not intended to kill and Im sure that wasn't his intent.
But he could have stopped her easily without.

What can one say?
Pigs will be pigs.

[Lifebringer]

If Repubicans get in again, it will be like Terminator and cybernet or cyberdine?

[king anthony]

If Repubicans get in again, it will be like Terminator and cybernet or cyberdine?

It does not matter who one votes for, for the (corporate) government will always appear to be in power.

[TargeT]

If Repubicans get in again, it will be like Terminator and cybernet or cyberdine?

It does not matter who one votes for, for the (corporate) government will always appear to be in power.

Well, it might hurt slightly more if you get punched by the right hand vrs the left hand... but either way your getting punched (haha).

[PixieDust]

I see this as a video that went viral to prove how "cruel" cops are.

It was an accident. The cop was doing his job taking in a criminal on a couple hit and run incidents. A hit and run could be several things, what if she had injured people in those hit and runs? The article also mentioned she was on two severe drugs, oxycodone and cocaine... those could have been variables to her current condition. Speculation of course, but she was in the wrong.

did she deserve a vegetative state? no.

Could the cop had chosen a different way to restrain her? Yes. But he chose the taser because he was worried about his weight crushing her. How was he suppose to know shed flop over backwards. Most videos i see of people getting tasered just shake around and fall over, they typically don't do a half spin in mid air.

I just don't like that people automatically take her side and make her out to be an innocent little kitten and the cop this horrible blood thirsty beast.

Immediately everyone goes against cops that they're evil and out to hurt everyone. Instead try looking at it for what it is.

Its a human error that ended in a horrible accident. theres no hidden agenda or a political outcry.

call me insensitive but thats my opinion. Worst things happen everyday.

[TargeT]

I see this as a video that went viral to prove how "cruel" cops are.

It was an accident.

this is infering that using highvoltage weaponry against citizens (INNOCENT UNTILL PROVEN OTHERWISE) is ok...


he chose the taser because he was worried about his weight crushing her. How was he suppose to know shed flop over backwards. Most videos i see of people getting tasered just shake around and fall over, they typically don't do a half spin in mid air.
Immediately everyone goes against cops that they're evil and out to hurt everyone. Instead try looking at it for what it is.


What half spin? she fell sideways because of her stride... seriously.. have you been tazed before? I have twice........


of course not all cops are bad, but people are always people, and NO PERSON GETS THE RIGHT TO DO THIS TO ANOTHER PERSON... EVER.

if it is in defense of life or limb, that is different, this FAT COP (and thats why he tazed her I guarente it look at his body language....) did not have to do this and had no reason that I could see. I have to stay in shape for my job... this guy should too & he wouldn't have to "tackle" her, she was already in cuffs!



Its a human error that ended in a horrible accident. theres no hidden agenda or a political outcry.

call me insensitive but thats my opinion. Worst things happen everyday.

I don't think there was a hidden agenda (thoguh giving one random person this kind of power over another person is kind of an agenda on it's own...) & it was an accident, we shouldn't demonize police because of this..


We should demonize them because of the very concept of a person who has the ability to exersize lethal force at will or even less than lethal force in a lackadaisical manor like this individual is what we should be up in arms about....

[PixieDust]

I see this as a video that went viral to prove how "cruel" cops are.

It was an accident.

this is infering that using highvoltage weaponry against citizens (INNOCENT UNTILL PROVEN OTHERWISE) is ok...


he chose the taser because he was worried about his weight crushing her. How was he suppose to know shed flop over backwards. Most videos i see of people getting tasered just shake around and fall over, they typically don't do a half spin in mid air.
Immediately everyone goes against cops that they're evil and out to hurt everyone. Instead try looking at it for what it is.


What half spin? she fell sideways because of her stride... seriously.. have you been tazed before? I have twice........


of course not all cops are bad, but people are always people, and NO PERSON GETS THE RIGHT TO DO THIS TO ANOTHER PERSON... EVER.

if it is in defense of life or limb, that is different, this FAT COP (and thats why he tazed her I guarente it look at his body language....) did not have to do this and had no reason that I could see. I have to stay in shape for my job... this guy should too & he wouldn't have to "tackle" her, she was already in cuffs!



Its a human error that ended in a horrible accident. theres no hidden agenda or a political outcry.

call me insensitive but thats my opinion. Worst things happen everyday.

I don't think there was a hidden agenda (thoguh giving one random person this kind of power over another person is kind of an agenda on it's own...) & it was an accident, we shouldn't demonize police because of this..


We should demonize them because of the very concept of a person who has the ability to exersize lethal force at will or even less than lethal force in a lackadaisical manor like this individual is what we should be up in arms about....


I think using high voltage in some instances is a lot better than a bullet or beating someone.

I saw this video, i think a week ago, so i remember the fall being more dramatic after re-watching so thank you for the clarification on her fall. No, I haven't been tased, which could make my above statement invalid. If a cop was coming after me and gave me an option... being shot, tased or beaten until surrender i think I'd choose the electricity. But like i said i dont know what that would feel like, just like i wouldn't know what any of them would feel like.

I can't defend a debate of tasers vs no tasers because i dont have enough valid information on one view or the other. In this instance the cops purpose was not to kill her or destroy her brain so this particular video wouldnt be able to prove anything except "unexpected happenings"

I agree the majority of cops are fat and lazy and it should be mandatory for them to stay fit and healthy and constant training like our military. But then would the police for be too militarized?

As far as police brutality goes, I think a lot of times it gets blown out of proportion and too many fingers get pointed at the cops. Cops, as humans, are going to be more likely to draw a weapon of any kind before endangering their body. If you don't like that then arm yourself or dont break the law...

am i saying all cases of police brutality are over dramatized....no....im sure some police go power crazy and take out their anger and issues on a human. and that is not right.

what about when the criminal wins? kills or puts a cop in intensive care? that doesnt go viral. it gets MAYBE a 2 minute story on the local news.

What if this was two civilians? would it change the atmosphere of the video? was it just that it was cop vs civilian? or that she was handcuffed? would the force of the tase be so much she wouldnt have been able to stop herself even if her hands were free?

overall, no matter how this goes, i appreciate the reply and the 'disagreement'. it makes ya think more :)

peace

[Calz]

Another under similar cirumstances. Woman handcuffed but this time in a police station surrounded by cops. Cops try to get woman to go into another area and the woman gets angry that it is the male (and not the female) officer who is using physical contact wherein a 3rd cop enters the room and tases the lady in the back and she falls back and strikes her head on the floor.

KWaCD6jIH5Q


The point is really tasers were meant as a safer method to use rather than guns which is fine as long as that remains the criteria for usage.

So many times they are now being used simply because the cop wants a totally submissive response and uses his/her taser on people for simply emotional responses that are in no way threatening.

One that went somewhat viral was a 72 year old granda tased after refusing to sign a ticket on a routine traffic stop. Yes she was raising a fuss verbally but could not possibly have been a physical threat to the much bigger, stronger and younger officer.


tzulvPkl918

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Another under similar cirumstances. Woman handcuffed but this time in a police station surrounded by cops. Cops try to get woman to go into another area and the woman gets angry that it is the male (and not the female) officer who is using physical contact wherein a 3rd cop enters the room and tases the lady in the back and she falls back and strikes her head on the floor.

KWaCD6jIH5Q


The point is really tasers were meant as a safer method to use rather than guns which is fine as long as that remains the criteria for usage.

So many times they are now being used simply because the cop wants a totally submissive response and uses his/her taser on people for simply emotional responses that are in no way threatening.

One that went somewhat viral was a 72 year old granda tased after refusing to sign a ticket on a routine traffic stop. Yes she was raising a fuss verbally but could not possibly have been a physical threat to the much bigger, stronger and younger officer.


tzulvPkl918

Wow, thats just so wrong, unbelievable, the female officer didnt even offer to take over and comfort the lady and handle the case, seems like common sense to me. The cop said get up, i can hear you breathing, disgusting, i hear at least one overdose a month still breathing, this doesnt mean everything is just peaches. Yechh.

[Eric J (Viking)]

There are many cycles within one big cycle...we are nearing the end of that one big cycle. Have 'faith'...

Is say, there is one cycle that has been for humanity from the time of their being and this is the "why" human beings are - something most cannot accept. This is the cycle that should be the concern; however, the feel-good that is for most does not allow most to see beyond this. This is not about (the fiction) "faith" - it is about what is.

Yes this is true ... But do not underestimate good old 'faith' ... 'what is' has come about because we have let our consciousness to be controlled to the extent that we are all zombies going around in circles...slowly people are becomming aware that ultimately we have the power to create our own reality, and not adopt the mind set that 'they' would like us to...thus creating a different outcome.

Having 'faith' is a powerful tool to overcome the present mode of existance.

viking

[Tarka the Duck]

For me, it is the lack of response by the officers AFTER these incidents. They don't appear to be particularly concerned about any possible injury that may have occurred.

I find that really chilling.

[king anthony]

...They don't appear to be particularly concerned about any possible injury that may have occurred...

Corporations are sociopathic = those who control corporations are sociopathic = governments are corporations = thus, is it possible that those who work for corporations (for example, enforce policy) are also sociopathic!?

[Camilo]

That's the training cops get. The responsability is his but more so the system's. It's sad and barbaric. By running she gave him the excuse he needed, according to the system's training. They don't think, the're programed to act in automatic pilot. They're brain washed. That's an example of what's coming.

[TargeT]

I think using high voltage in some instances is a lot better than a bullet or beating someone.

I saw this video, i think a week ago, so i remember the fall being more dramatic after re-watching so thank you for the clarification on her fall. No, I haven't been tased, which could make my above statement invalid. If a cop was coming after me and gave me an option... being shot, tased or beaten until surrender i think I'd choose the electricity. But like i said i dont know what that would feel like, just like i wouldn't know what any of them would feel like.

There is pain involved, but its very brief and not bad at all, you are correct in your choice for sure (though if you put peperspray in the mix I personaly would rather be shot than pepersprayed in the eyes (which I've had done before too, for training ))




I can't defend a debate of tasers vs no tasers because i dont have enough valid information on one view or the other. In this instance the cops purpose was not to kill her or destroy her brain so this particular video wouldnt be able to prove anything except "unexpected happenings"

I agree the majority of cops are fat and lazy and it should be mandatory for them to stay fit and healthy and constant training like our military. But then would the police for be too militarized?

I'm trying to twist the debate away from the "menutia" and to the larger topic of how do police have a right to do something that (in most cases) I do not have? this isn't how our republic is supose to work.

Tasers are a good option but the amount of PURE POWER it gives someone over another is a touch rediculous & police are starting to remind me of "Judge Dread" these days.

The militarization of police is already here, SWAT teams have better gear than our Army Rangers & act just as agressively.




As far as police brutality goes, I think a lot of times it gets blown out of proportion and too many fingers get pointed at the cops. Cops, as humans, are going to be more likely to draw a weapon of any kind before endangering their body. If you don't like that then arm yourself or dont break the law...

I'm always armed, but I don't have the right to act like police do.. I would never harm someone unless it was the ABSOLUTE last option I had... watching this video I did not see that as the case, she was tazed because he didn't want to run; I'm pretty good at reading people and I bet this guy is his own jury (if he has any empathy at all).

Police are just human, I think the problem isn't in the people doing the job, its the fact that they have hte job at all in the first place. police are NOT needed... at all.



am i saying all cases of police brutality are over dramatized....no....im sure some police go power crazy and take out their anger and issues on a human. and that is not right.

what about when the criminal wins? kills or puts a cop in intensive care? that doesnt go viral. it gets MAYBE a 2 minute story on the local news.

What about the victom of crimes? why don't you care about them? they ALWAYS LOOSE!

This "justice" system is a farce, there is NO justice what so ever.. if you break into my house, trash it and get arrested not only is my house still trashed, but I now have to pay for YOU to get a nice warm place to sleep with an Xbox and as much phone time as you want.... this is justice? the victim is DOUBLE hit and the offender never "pays them back".

How does a criminal owe a "debt to society" that is the most socalistic statement I've ever heard.. the criminal owes a debt to the VICTIM!



What if this was two civilians? would it change the atmosphere of the video? was it just that it was cop vs civilian? or that she was handcuffed? would the force of the tase be so much she wouldnt have been able to stop herself even if her hands were free?

overall, no matter how this goes, i appreciate the reply and the 'disagreement'. it makes ya think more :)

peace

I think two civilians would absolutely change the video & its peoples response to it, there would be much less anger at a group of people with VASTLY more power (COPS) than the rest of "us".

if her hands were free of cuffs she would hadn't have had the ability to catch her self.. Tazing on a hard surface is NOT DONE in training for reasons just like this.. I personally think the cop should be held for neglegent assault (or something) you KNOW what a tazer will do when you use one (as we have to be tazed to experience it in training) so you KNOW what could happen on pavement or concrete.. I don't excuse him at all especially after viewing the video.. I hope his ego is beating him up badly right now, he deserves it.

but again, I see this as less about the particular incident and more of an over arching problem.

Thanks for the replies as well, responding to stuff like this helps me refine my own thoughts and see where I stand (writing is the mirror to the soul).

[Carmody]

The human body, or how people integrate with a human body, is that their sum total living experience is that, if impacted, a human body falls under some modicum of control.

Thing that is not entering the minds of those who use tasers is that the modicum of control of a fall exhibited by the human body's learned and autonomous balance/action systems is removed when a taser is used.

Thus falls... when tasered are far, far more dangerous.

For example, even in films, the most recent example being that of the avatar's being disconnected from the occupant in the film 'avatar'. The bodies fall so nice and gracefully..safely.

Not so in the real world.

When the occupant of the body and the body itself are incapacitated, the odds of a very critical or damaging head strike in a fall..these odds increase dramatically. from as low as a few percent chance to a easy 50% chance of damage.

When she was hit, she may as well of had a inflated soft melon on the end of a stick for a body and head, as well as being accelerated into the fall.

I BELIEVE that this information, as a known problem IS USED IN TRAINING regarding the use of tasers.

As a matter of fact, when you see people being trained in the use of tasers (youtube videos), you see this point of information being used in the training. they use mats for falling and the area is made safe regarding potential head strikes and other potential damage from the given totally uncontrolled fall. Other officers even help them to the floor.... so they don't smack their heads on their nice comfotable gym type training and falling mats.

Regarding the clearing of this officer with regard not knowing the consequences of using a taser in this manner, I'm sure he was trained about the potentials of damage from head strikes.

Thus, IMO, a line of taking this tactic in a legal attack on police over-use of tasers, regarding lawsuits that force more strict protocols..this would be the kind of legal direction to go in.

Insofar as the police officer in the OP video, this tactic can be used to legally force him out of a job and into prosecution for aggravated assault or similar. Something that moves toward shutting down the over use of the taser with that particular police force and sends a clear message to police that this is not going to become the norm that it is right now in the US.

One cannot predict exactly how the given taser shot is going to affect the given person's nervous system, regarding potential for head strikes, thus the use of the tasers has to be far more controlled.

The use of tasers by police needs to be federally and legally moved over to the area, level and way of investigation that involves the firing of a gun in the line of duty and to the level of seriousness that such an act is treated. for the dangers of their use has been shown to be every bit as dangerous as the given officers firing weapons. This last point is due to their incredible amount of incidental and frivolous use and abuse.

The use of a taser in the line of duty, by a police officer needs to be as legally complex (and threatening to the officer's life and future) as the use of a gun. That particular 'report status' and 'investigation' for the firing of a weapon in the line of duty is there for the expressed reason that firing of guns can be and is an area where officers/police can and do get into frivolous and specious levels of animalistic abuse of the public and the citizens of the given jurisdiction.

Only then will this 'wild west' of taser abuse begin to come to an end and enter some minimal form of responsibility.

[Carmody]

For me, it is the lack of response by the officers AFTER these incidents. They don't appear to be particularly concerned about any possible injury that may have occurred.

I find that really chilling.



this is America stepping into a conservative or low empathy 'us vs them' kind of 'corporate fascism'. this, regardind the public signs of such. it has been going on for quite some time, though. Obviously. the last signs are always the public ones as the moves are mostly hidden from the masses.

Any attack on police powers is being heavily censured or sidelined, in all ways at all levels.

Local city, state, and federal police and enforcement officers are being given a clear green signal (in all ways) by an oligarchy that is concerned with staying on top at all costs.

what you are seeing right now is in, some fundamental ways, equitable tot he over extention of Rome that brought about it's downfall.

In this case, we are not interested in just the flow and the fallout, but we are interested in the players behind the scenes, for it is their influence that must be dealt with here, when observing any issues at hand, like this specific taser issue.

the fault lies not with the officer as a sum total, the situational parameters where brought about by a criminal cabal, a hidden fascist oligarchy.

It is fundamental and critical to use such goggles as this, when viewing any of the nightmare situations that this world my appear to be in.

When you look at this hidden fascist oligarchy (their current fitting descriptor), you find their hand in almost any given situation of world issues that has appeared in any point in human history.

So it is not just a simple taser issue, it is a issue brought about by a hidden cabal that has operated for as long as anyone can remember or that we have record for.

Keep your eyes and mind on the real origins of this issue.....

[Maia Gabrial]

I was just thinking that if this cop had any kind of integrity, he should be feeling like a scumbag for harming this woman.... He's walking around in good health, but not her....

[Calz]

That's the training cops get. The responsability is his but more so the system's. It's sad and barbaric. By running she gave him the excuse he needed, according to the system's training. They don't think, the're program d to act in automatic pilot. They're brain washed. That's an example of what's coming.

Isn't there a certain degree of "social profiling" that goes into the initial hiring process as well???

Bar is "set low" so to speak at least in some areas. Could be localized and not a national standard. I don't know that much about it ... just seen a few articles.

[Maia Gabrial]

Seems to me that this guy just didn't want to have to run after a handcuffed woman. I mean, he looks as though he ate a few too many donuts...

[king anthony]

Isn't there a certain degree of "social profiling" that goes into the initial hiring process as well...
Yes they do...

Corporations are sociopathic = those who control corporations are sociopathic = governments are corporations = thus, is it possible that those who work for corporations (for example, enforce policy) are also sociopathic!?

...I'm sure I said this before... here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41235-US-Woman-left-brain-dead-after-being-tasered-while-handcuffed&p=435323&viewfull=1#post435323). :)

[JohnBlues]

Definately overuse of force, much smaller girl running away, hand-cuffed, and within arms reach to grab, I can see what TargeT is saying about his bodylanguage, it's just very lazy as if he couldn't be bothered..

Anyway, i googled his name and found a site that tracks police brutality/corruption issues - http://toxiccops.com/home/ , I suggest everyone check it out, it's updated regularly and the more traffic and exposure this site gets the better.