View Full Version : Evidence Of Censorship: Dutchsince and New Madrid Fault Earthquake missing info.
DreamsInDigital
24th February 2012, 21:06
Why are they going through such lengths to hide this?
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Selene
24th February 2012, 22:27
Interesting. Readers on other sites site as The Golden Thread http://www.thegoldenthread.info/phpBB3/index.php have alleged for several years that the USGS methodically “dumbs down” or reduces the Richter rating of major quakes. The USGS always claims this is due to ‘revision after the data has been examined by a qualified geologist’, even though, statistically, they never revise an initial rating upward. If these were reporting errors, these errors should fall on both sides of the norm….
Dutchsinse provides pretty good proof here that the alterations and omissions are methodical and deliberate.
In other words, the USGS is lying, lying, lying about what is going on under our feet. The earth is shifting – and someone whose job it is to keep us informed of this is deliberately concealing vital information.
Yes: why?
WhiteFeather
24th February 2012, 22:44
WTF, Those Damned Alphabet Organizations. I guess we Cant trust any of them now. Now This Sucks.
DreamsInDigital
24th February 2012, 22:55
Selene,
This has been going on for quite some time, and is not surprising to me in the least. For the longest time they used to post seismography information along with the EQ reports. After the "events" that were posted by exopolitic reporters and connected to the DUMBS, also I think in relation to the 3/11 event which proved to be several small explosions in the right spot.
To many people were catching on to the difference between the explosions by Colbolt Bombs and Sonic Energy Weapons compared to naturally occurring earthquakes. Quite the embarrassment for the establishment. Also read right, the seismography information can be interpreted to tell the difference between the HAARP Quakes and the Natural Quakes. They certainly do not want that either and is likely why they removed the one that Dutchsince is talking about in his video. If you look at the uniformity of the waves leading upto the event 'vs' normally forming EQ's the evidence is right there in print.
mountain_jim
24th February 2012, 23:16
Based on his querying of reporting stations this wiped quake seems to be from the florida, sc, and nc area , not the New Madrid quake from a day earlier or so.
DreamsInDigital
24th February 2012, 23:25
Jim,
It's an 2. something quake that happened in Oklahoma like yesterday or something? He states that on his video and that it's related to the NMF, but the data was removed purposefully. Also did you notice how the 4.0 wasn't even reported on the USGS Auto Bot that post Earthquakes on the Earthquake Forum? There's something a-foot here for sure.
Turcurulin
25th February 2012, 00:57
Just as he predicts, it's censored from ANSS. Unbelievable.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/monitoring/operations/station.php?network=US&station=CBN#heliplot
The NMF always comes to mind when I see projected 'future maps' -
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TKlXGTJ0GpI/ThcdYFejxeI/AAAAAAAABhg/VNa9gmPxGKg/s1600/cambiostierramapas07.jpg
Nice catch, Dream-girl.
EnergyGardener
25th February 2012, 01:04
Just as he predicts, it's censored from ANSS. Unbelievable.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/monitoring/operations/station.php?network=US&station=CBN#heliplot
The NMF always comes to mind when I see projected 'future maps' -
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TKlXGTJ0GpI/ThcdYFejxeI/AAAAAAAABhg/VNa9gmPxGKg/s1600/cambiostierramapas07.jpg
Nice catch, Dream-girl.
It would be interesting to learn which local officials of the respective seismic areas were in other locations during the relevant days....
DreamsInDigital
25th February 2012, 01:09
I am curious what made them think that Atlantis would rise back up in THAT spot, according to satellite and geographic imagery that sits right over the shelf which is thousands of feet down. It's where the continent was before.....pretty much. But,the area has sunk so much since....there isn't any possibility of it rising back above the water. Not that that map is going to "be" or "come into being" anyway, or anything else like it. But, you know.. one would think they would at least try to get it more accurate, even in their estimations.
Kindred
25th February 2012, 01:17
From what I've seen here, I too feel that the EQ seems to have it's center near the area of the purported 'Atlantis' site between Florida and the Bahamas... although, I'm not that certain of the 'size' of Atlantis as depicted in that 'future map'. Just the same, it does appear that our 'keepers' are trying their best to maintain secrecy. Good Going Dutch!
In Unity and Peace
DreamsInDigital
25th February 2012, 01:30
From what I've been able to find, research etc. Atlantis was pretty big according to the ruins that have been found and attributed to the continent both before and after it's discovery in 1971. Also some of the ruins in the Gulf of Mexico and Bahamas possibly weren't "Atlantian" but either extensions of their empire or connected to the Empire of King Aramu Muru. There is nothing of the hard or scientific evidence that points to what is drawn on that map concerning Atlantis even been possible to become like that.
Sidney
25th February 2012, 03:14
I figured they are "wiping" them because they are man-made earthquakes because of all of their fracking. AND/OR the earth is moving, but why cover it up. Thats going to grab more attention than them reporting it.
EnergyGardener
25th February 2012, 04:41
I figured they are "wiping" them because they are man-made earthquakes because of all of their fracking. AND/OR the earth is moving, but why cover it up. Thats going to grab more attention than them reporting it.
Perhaps to hide:smash: the epicenter/s and thus the sources of the man-made earthquakes.:boom:
DreamsInDigital
25th February 2012, 04:56
From the info I've been getting it was going to be a combination of man-made amplification but started naturally. How ever I don't think much like the other "false flags" this attempt at ending the world or millions of peoples lives will be permitted to happen.
Quantum Logic
25th February 2012, 05:16
With today's event, it is time to tell others about the research I have been doing.
Many of you who have been reading my posts know there is an interconnected relationship between waves, magnetism, and our world. One thing I have learned is high frequencies are many times (possibly always-not enough research yet) accompanied by infrasound frequencies due to a function called Bragg matching. An example would be a 100KHz frequency (wave) would be Bragg matched to a .018 to .2 Hz. frequency, a 500 KHz would be Bragg matched to .09 Hz to 1 Hz., and so on. This was the basis of the old LORAN system, which consequently, was replaced by GPS and ordered defunded by the Dept. of Homeland Security in the beginning of 2010. It is my belief that the LORAN system was shut down, even though it is still a viable backup in case of GPS failure, because it could have detected what is being done with HAARP.
HAARP is being used in multiple ways for multiple effects. The seismographs are being altered/shut down during these events due to the sheer number of people watching for the unique signatures produced. But there are other ways to detect it still. HAARP uses high frequencies directed at the ionosphere, which in turn increases the TEC, or Total Electron Count, and electron density. Increased electron density was detected almost directly above the epicenter of the 3/11/11 Japan quake. But the HF waves are also producing the Bragg matched infrasound frequency, which infrasound can be both caused by and produced by earthquakes, volcanoes, and other geological events. Seismometers have proven to be excellent infrasound detectors, as show in a chart from a previous post of mine. When infrasound waves pass deep through the Earth's surface, they affect many of the mineral deposits that streak through the subsurface layers throughout the Earth. Almost all minerals have piezo-electric properties, so many of them can actually amplify the waves when they come in contact. The resulting wave then moves along at a speed of approximately 1/24 the speed of sound throughout the fault systems, building pressure depending on the amplitude of the original wave, physical and piezo-electric properties of the subsurface material, and many other factors. What results is a release at some point along the fault linked areas, but sometimes it does not happen immediately- it could be days or even a few weeks.
Quantum Logic
25th February 2012, 05:57
If you want to read something that explains my post above better, go here-
http://www.btinternet.com/~gmbarnes/HUM.html
Although the primary discussion is about the "HUM", most of it revolves around the interactions of infrasound, especially with humans.
QL
Maia Gabrial
25th February 2012, 14:21
Dutch just put out this new information that appears to be censored by USGS.
Take a look:
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As a side note: I recall reading that the Libertation Forces were taking care of matters in the New Madrid Fault Line yesterday, too.... I think it's all tied in together....
Fredenit
25th February 2012, 14:55
Dutch just put out this new information that appears to be censored by USGS.
Take a look:
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As a side note: I recall reading that the Libertation Forces were taking care of matters in the New Madrid Fault Line yesterday, too.... I think it's all tied in together....
Hello Maia Gabrial,
I have a couple questions and may sound stupid, but who or what are the Libertation Forces? And have the declared themselves to Humanity? Cheers.
Quantum Logic
25th February 2012, 15:15
There is an existing thread on this started by DreamsInDigital, which is located here-
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41357-Evidence-Of-Censorship-Dutchsince-and-New-Madrid-Fault-Earthquake-missing-info.
You might want to have a look at that, as it has some interesting points.
QL
pyrangello
25th February 2012, 15:39
What a suprize that were not being told yet again the real truth. Hang on boys and girls this is going to be a bumpy ride this year.
ThePythonicCow
25th February 2012, 15:46
There is an existing thread on this started by DreamsInDigital ...
I merged the two threads on this topic into this one thread.
DreamsInDigital
25th February 2012, 15:58
Hello Maia Gabrial,
I have a couple questions and may sound stupid, but who or what are the Libertation Forces? And have the declared themselves to Humanity? Cheers.
They're a combination of Terrestrial and Non-Terrestrial forces that are working collectively in their own way to liberate the planet. Including the White Hats, multiple races of ET/ED's, The Dragon Societies and their associates, the good guys in the Petagon, etc. Including anyone and everyone that is contributing, every individual on this planet that wants this planet to be free from oppressive dark negative energies, beings etc. Some have declared themselves, while others prefer out of safety reasons etc to remain on the covert side of things. It's an collective term.
As a side note: I recall reading that the Libertation Forces were taking care of matters in the New Madrid Fault Line yesterday, too.... I think it's all tied in together....
Yes, one of the more scientific oriented races is in the area working on stablelizing it, dealing with the HAARP waves, etc. That are connected to that area. AFAIK anyway.
Fundy Gemini
25th February 2012, 16:57
Selene,
This has been going on for quite some time, and is not surprising to me in the least. For the longest time they used to post seismography information along with the EQ reports. After the "events" that were posted by exopolitic reporters and connected to the DUMBS, also I think in relation to the 3/11 event which proved to be several small explosions in the right spot.
To many people were catching on to the difference between the explosions by Colbolt Bombs and Sonic Energy Weapons compared to naturally occurring earthquakes. Quite the embarrassment for the establishment. Also read right, the seismography information can be interpreted to tell the difference between the HAARP Quakes and the Natural Quakes. They certainly do not want that either and is likely why they removed the one that Dutchsince is talking about in his video. If you look at the uniformity of the waves leading upto the event 'vs' normally forming EQ's the evidence is right there in print.
This is alarming! Thank goodness folks like Dutchsense are bringing this out - hopefully his evidence will be downloaded and saved before it also disappears.
BTW, This was addressed by John Kettler in his blog yesterday too... quoted below
Censorship–How The Government “Makes Quakes Go Away”
It has long been known by Earth scientists and Earth sensitives alike that the government has been covering up and suppressing, via censorship and worse, the truth that this planet has become frighteningly unstable. It is common for the USGS (United States Geological Survey) to tone down or even remove quakes. Censorship took away the seismic wave charts, which were outing HAARP strikes and similar, and now we have a real smoking gun to show you concerning the lies of the New Madrid Fault system. dutchsinse blows the lid off the seismic coverup–with ironclad evidence the government itself provided! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd0qAVI6x4Y&hd=1
Selene
25th February 2012, 17:27
Over at The Golden Thread, http://www.thegoldenthread.info/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3518&start=600 insider Phatman has just posted this regarding his theories about active wave-cancellation technologies being used to dampen the effects of quakes on DUMBS:
This [the Dutchsinse data] is along the lines of something I posted some while back! I wrote how anti-seismic equipment which is used in Deep Underground Military Bunkers is used to mitigate shock wave from causing catastrophic issues in the bunkers. Think of it as noise cancellation technology.
I asked a number of friends who have associates in the USGS and have direct access to data recorded and they have said that the NSA has an automated way of expunging things from the official records. This is what happened during the Haitian quake which was reinforced by their anti-seismic D.U.M.B. gear.
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This also is also apropos to Dr Meyl video which tells of the increased Neutrino flux which is coming from the sun. We have never seen Neutrino flux densities like this before. No I do not believe that Neutrino's are the issue with the earth’s core. I believe they are just a side effect which goes hand and hand to the increasing Scalar Potentials which are of great import ! I am not just talking about Super Massive CME's I am talking about the sun's increase in size and the blue shift which has been seen in the visible spectrum.
This is really very very serious stuff..
Here are some vids on the anti-vortex scalar wave theories of Prof. Constantine Meyl:
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Cheers,
Selene
Quantum Logic
25th February 2012, 18:43
There is so much more to all of this, but as was told to Jody Foster in the movie "Contact"- small steps. You cannot possibly understand all of it if it was given all at once. It takes "time" for the conceptual realization to occur, and that is different in every individual. But waves and magnetism are the key to EVERYTHING, and all of you here are progressing so well- you are to be commended for taking these steps toward understanding the Universe and it's function.
Humans are literally infrasound detectors and projectors, due to magnetism that exists in the brain. Normally we cannot "hear" ultrasound until it exceeds 92db, but it is there if you become accustomed to recognizing it. So in essence, the human brain is a piezo-electric biological device, and can also be used to project infrasound, not just detect or be affected by it. Which leads to an incredible realization- thought IS magnetism, which forms all matter in the Universe.
Other everyday devices are also being used to manipulate and effect us as well- cell phone towers, satellite dishes, airborne television signals can all be modulated in such a way to produce a 17Hz frequency which causes anxiety and negative emotion. It is now you begin to realize how waves are truly the building blocks of the universe. They are us, the planet, the sun, earthquakes, volcanoes, planets, and galaxies.
QL
Quantum Logic
25th February 2012, 18:50
Selene-
Excellent find, and a possibility for defense until we can understand the biological process enough to protect ourselves naturally. This made me think of a popular anime show called "Neon Genesis Evangelion", where the Eva's expand what they call an "AT field" as a physical shield manifested by amplification of thought.
Thanks for triggering that in me.;)
QL
Black Panther
25th February 2012, 18:54
I figured they are "wiping" them because they are man-made earthquakes because of all of their fracking. AND/OR the earth is moving, but why cover it up. Thats going to grab more attention than them reporting it.
It's only getting more attention, because of our friend Dutchsince.
Maia Gabrial
25th February 2012, 19:22
Check this out. It's a good source to answer your question:
http://johnkettler.com/
The Liberation (I spelled it wrong on my comment - :becky:) Forces are made up of the good guys, the Stellans (off-world and their ground crews ) led by the ones who have ONLY liberated themselves about 12 years ago from a similar situation as us....Believe me, these amazing beings have been going strong on our behalf and Gaia's....
They came to our aid because we didn't have the means to defeat the Grays and Reptilians. Heck, alot of people still don't even know how much danger we're in! But the real scary part is that if there had been no intervention, the whole galaxy would have been destroyed by these bad guys....
I for one am very grateful for these good guys.... We all should send them love and gratitude through our meditations and prayers....
Maia Gabrial
25th February 2012, 19:32
I think it was John Kettler that said that the HAARP's are going to be destroyed soon and only giant holes will be left in their places. As far as I know, there's no good reason for HAARP anyway.... Let the destructions of them begin...!
greybeard
25th February 2012, 19:43
This is a good resource
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/monitoring/operations/heliplots_gsn.php
There has been quite a few occasions over the last year where all the graphs, at the same time, have been registering violent motion not related to a single earth quake.
In other words the whole Earth has been shaking.
Chris
inzer0
25th February 2012, 20:04
I think the censorship is quite interesting if coupled with the fact that on Feb 7th FEMA launched the second batch of earthquake preparedness drills for the entire midwest New Madrid area. Called the great central Us Shakeout (http://www.shakeout.org/centralus/). This is also coming in addition to the post on ats (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread810484/pg1), where this dude describes he has a couple friends who work for fema and will be "gone for some time" in that area, in a mostly unannounced manner.. Also, FEMA has released a couple videos (http://blog.fema.gov/2012/02/challenge-to-all-businesses-shakeout-on.html) urging earthquake preparedness for the midwest.. Also then considering the recent 4.0 in missouri (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46465402/ns/us_news-life/t/earthquake-missouri-shakes-states/?fb_ref=.T0dziGdwCpk.like&fb_source=profile_oneline) etc. Also, while checking through the fema page, the recent news articles (http://www.fema.gov/news/newsarchive.fema?year=2012&month=02) mention multiple New Flood Maps for counties in Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, and Oklahoma encouraging residents to "look" at them. Are new flood maps a routine thing? or did the ground depress in those areas recently? hmm .. Nonetheless, I'd say it seems fishy and like they are expecting something big soon. I highly doubt that FEMA would ever give a "direct" warning to the public if they were certain of something coming, however I think it's logical that they would give subtle hints to those paying attention. Perhaps I'm reading to deep into it, but it seems to me they are in fact giving those "hints"..
http://www.fema.gov/medialibrary/media_records/7286
Maia Gabrial
26th February 2012, 00:29
8 FEMA camps have been taken out. Only 792 left to go....
Marin
26th February 2012, 01:12
Posted on Februaury 21st from John Kettler's blog:
NWO (New World Order) installations of several sorts will be hit–hard–tonight according to authoritative ET/ED (extraterrestrial/extradimensional) sources. Targets include: institutions repressing/enslaving/planning to kill the People, symbols of NWO and occult power, NWO FEMA detention/extermination camps and so on. The chemtrail system, from agents to delivery systems, will be be the object of particular attention. The ETs/EDs warn that any attempt to artificially trigger the New Madrid Fault system will first be blocked, then mercilessly punished, to include destruction of all equipment and personnel involved. As is their custom, special measures will be taken to protect innocent humans.
link: http://johnkettler.com/nwo-to-receive-mauling-in-u-s-etseds-warn/
Quantum Logic
26th February 2012, 03:51
This is a good resource
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/monitoring/operations/heliplots_gsn.php
There has been quite a few occasions over the last year where all the graphs, at the same time, have been registering violent motion not related to a single earth quake.
In other words the whole Earth has been shaking.
Chris
I was going to wait awhile before posting this, but considering your statement, now is a good moment.
It is possible, through technological methods using powerful magnetism, to alter or even rupture what we call "time/space". Depending on where it is done, this effects everything at specific latitudes. This is what I was getting at in another post, but did not want to cause information overload at that moment. Time is only an illusion, and higher dimensions of existence have the ability to move freely within it, as well as manipulate it. It is possible to "merge" timelines using magnetism, as well as open a "gate" for lack of a better term, but the only way to do that in our dimension of existence is through advanced technological means. This would require an array of enormous power and size. When a "merge" takes place, or a "gate" is opened, due to differences in the physical realities of the exposed "times", is sends infrasonic waves along latitude lines and sometimes magnetic grid lines. The amplitude of the infrasound waves is incredible, and everything in their path is affected. This is what I am currently researching now, so I don't have all of the answers. But from what I understand so far, this is how it works.
QL
DreamsInDigital
26th February 2012, 14:57
[Mod-edit: The first part of this post, and some posts just above it, were moved to a separate off topic thread: Some posts moved from a Dutchsinse thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41485-Some-posts-moved-from-a-Dutchsinse-thread). -Paul.]
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I have to say I'm amused by the level of effort the USGS is going to at length with these situations. Though, Russia and US have been able to control weather, and inflict earthquakes etc for decades now, at least since the 60's through the use of HAARP on the US side, and Scaler Weapons on the Russian side, including inflicting areas of drought , crop damage, etc. If most of the world knows about this stuff, why do they insist on hiding it?
Then ofcourse there are the Tsunami and Earthquake Weapons, which is nothing more than a series if deeply planted Colbolt Bombs in the right location. Think about what happened with Fukushima and that thing on 3-11, it was a combination of HAARP and Colbolt or Nuclear Bombs set in the right spot, while USGS reported it as an 9.1 it was actually a series of three smaller scale explosions I think somewhere in the 6.0 range. Caused by "the tsunami machine" a series of bombs.
Quantum Logic
26th February 2012, 22:48
[Mod-edit: The first part of this post, and some posts just above it, were moved to a separate off topic thread: Some posts moved from a Dutchsinse thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41485-Some-posts-moved-from-a-Dutchsinse-thread). -Paul.]
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I have to say I'm amused by the level of effort the USGS is going to at length with these situations. Though, Russia and US have been able to control weather, and inflict earthquakes etc for decades now, at least since the 60's through the use of HAARP on the US side, and Scaler Weapons on the Russian side, including inflicting areas of drought , crop damage, etc. If most of the world knows about this stuff, why do they insist on hiding it?
Then ofcourse there are the Tsunami and Earthquake Weapons, which is nothing more than a series if deeply planted Colbolt Bombs in the right location. Think about what happened with Fukushima and that thing on 3-11, it was a combination of HAARP and Colbolt or Nuclear Bombs set in the right spot, while USGS reported it as an 9.1 it was actually a series of three smaller scale explosions I think somewhere in the 6.0 range. Caused by "the tsunami machine" a series of bombs.
While it is possible that explosives were used, it is not necessary. Ultrasound waves have the ability to cause earthquakes and tsunamis as well, as well as alter biochemistry, neural patterns, and even time/space itself. When considered objectively, explosives are too easy to recognize, mainly due to the instantaneous sonic force produced. They also do not increase the TEC above the point of detonation, which was a parameter detected at the time of the Japan quake. So, again, although it is possible explosives were used, they were not the primary technology used in the Japan disaster, as indicated by the measured TEC increase.
QL
DreamsInDigital
26th February 2012, 23:06
There is actual testimony that explosives were used in the Tsunami / earthquake attack on Fukushima. The HAARP would have been used to increase the intensity of the affects. With the USGS seismology records being removed etc, that prevents much evidence from being drawn to support the testimony that has been laid out.
Quantum Logic
26th February 2012, 23:57
I would like to know how cobalt is used as an explosive. It would not be an element of choice in explosives, due to the high melting point of 1495C. It is also not a common element found in the Earth's crust, but is found deep in Earth's core, and is a product of supernovae. Read these-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobalt
http://www.lenntech.com/periodic/elements/co.htm
http://www.rareearth.org/cobalt_prperties.htm
One of the most recognized properties and uses of cobalt is it is MAGNETIC. Cobalt 60, the only stable isotope of cobalt which is produced synthetically, has the ability to produce gamma rays.
I have never found any information on cobalt being used as an explosive. If you could provide some technical data on that use of it, I would definitely like to read it.
QL
Quantum Logic
27th February 2012, 00:10
Here is a seismograph from 2 days before the 3/11 quake- the page is still there. Do not rely on the USGS for everything- there are other sources-
http://www.fnet.bosai.go.jp/waveform/view.php?plot=1hour&code=TYS&comp=Z&tm=2011030904&LANG=en
Here is the base page you can search from-
http://www.fnet.bosai.go.jp/freesia/waveform/
Just choose the date and station ID, and have fun!
QL
DreamsInDigital
27th February 2012, 00:23
The Colbolt is used by the Russians for their "earth quake" machines aka "tsunami" machines for decades now. Quite probably used also by Cabal/NWO types. I don't know the specifics, am not an explosives /weapons/ ammunition expert by any stretch of the equasion. Specially with those types of things. But AFAIK the explosives used in those situations are/were commonly referred to as Colbolt Bombs, they place a series of about either 3 - 6 - 9 or 12 in a row along a certain point like a fault line junction and bury them deep enough, and either allow them to be set off by the P-Wave of an Naturally formed earthquake, or in the instance with Fukushima, they were nuclear charged colbolt bombs that were set off by the HAARP and I believe it was a series of 9 that were used in Fukushima. Set in groups of 3. Which gave the 3 separate explosions that were reported and is congruent with the testimony that has been presented so far.
I know Dr Peter Beter covers the use of them in his transcribed Audio Letters, the link is on the forums here in the thread I started concerning his Intelligence Information he reported on regularly. I have a feeling it's something you would be interested in reading in general also. :) That was/is one of the main sources I first heard about Colbolt bombs from, but have since talked about them with other military and intelligence sources/friends.
ThePythonicCow
27th February 2012, 01:16
I would like to know how cobalt is used as an explosive.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobalt_bomb:
A cobalt bomb is a theoretical type of "salted bomb": a nuclear weapon intended to contaminate an area by radioactive material, with a relatively small blast.
The weapon's tamper would be composed of ordinary cobalt metal, which the nuclear explosion would then transmute to the radioactive isotope cobalt-60 (60Co), which would produce deadly nuclear fallout.
ThePythonicCow
27th February 2012, 01:25
Or from http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickover/ivy.html
We have so far been discussing Doomsday brought about by natural causes. But what about Doomsday Machines? The term "Doomsday Machine" refers to the class of hypothetical weapons specially designed to destroy all large lifeforms including humans. Could such a weapon be produced? Sadly the answer may be yes. Here are four recipes:
Cobalt Bomb Cluster. The easiest Doomsday Machine to construct is the cobalt bomb cluster. Each cobalt bomb is an ordinary atomic bomb encased in a jacket of cobalt. When a cobalt bomb explodes, it spreads a huge amount of radiation. If enough of these bombs were exploded, life on Earth would perish.
I am wagering that the phrase "Cobalt bomb" is being used because of its connection with "doomsday" ... not because it is a useful explosive.
Such (likely misuse) of fear mongering phrases such as this cause me to be more skeptical of a source.
Quantum Logic
27th February 2012, 01:40
I would like to know how cobalt is used as an explosive.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobalt_bomb:
A cobalt bomb is a theoretical type of "salted bomb": a nuclear weapon intended to contaminate an area by radioactive material, with a relatively small blast.
The weapon's tamper would be composed of ordinary cobalt metal, which the nuclear explosion would then transmute to the radioactive isotope cobalt-60 (60Co), which would produce deadly nuclear fallout.
Thanks Paul. This quote from Wikipedia only reinforces my point. It states it is theoretical and the primary purpose is to spread radiation. It is obviously not designed for destructive force. I also found the Wiki entry to have been modified as recently as Feb. 16, 2012.
Something about this does not sound right, almost like it was put there for the sole purpose of being able to be referenced. I will have to find more information before reaching an objective conclusion.
QL
ThePythonicCow
27th February 2012, 01:46
I also found the Wiki entry to have been modified as recently as Feb. 16, 2012.
Something about this does not sound right, almost like it was put there for the sole purpose of being able to be referenced.
One can "View history (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cobalt_bomb&action=history)" on a Wikipedia page (link top right of each Wikipedia page.)
The only change on the Wikipedia Cobalt Bomb page in the last two weeks was fixing one link to a Wayback Machine page.
DreamsInDigital
28th February 2012, 01:01
Paul , if you remember Dr. Peter Beter mentioned multiple times the use of Cobalt Bombs, as part of the "Earth Quake" and "Tsunami" Machines. This is still in practice, and were actually the ones used in the March 11th Fukushima attack on Japan.
ThePythonicCow
28th February 2012, 03:33
Paul , if you remember Dr. Peter Beter mentioned multiple times the use of Cobalt Bombs, as part of the "Earth Quake" and "Tsunami" Machines. This is still in practice, and were actually the ones used in the March 11th Fukushima attack on Japan.
Yes - he did. For just one example, Dr. Peter Beter is quoted in http://s6.zetaboards.com/Free_Thinkers/topic/8763888/1/ as writing:
When I recorded AUDIO LETTER No. 24 in May 1977, just three months ago, I warned that, quote: “A horrendous new capability is now in place as an alternate means for creating our ‘National Emergency’; and, my friends, there are ominous signs that this capability is going to be used very soon.” I then gave the locations of seven (7) fission fusion fission bombs planted strategically around the undersea trenches east and west of the Philippines where they can trigger massive earthquakes and tidal waves. These seven gigaton bombs are the most powerful weapons ever devised by man, and the disaster that erupts there is planned to work its way around the “Ring of Fire” to produce an artificial West Coast disaster centering on California that will be used to justify a Declaration of National Emergency. In the three months since I last spoke to you, the Soviet Union has also deployed ten (10) additional super bombs to assist in this diabolical attack on the earth’s crust itself. These are less powerful than the seven Doomsday Bombs planted around the Philippines but are extremely powerful nonetheless. These 10 new bombs are known as “cobalt bombs”, so called because they are surrounded by a jacket of cobalt.
When the cobalt bomb was first proposed many years ago, it was universally feared and condemned because while it is less powerful than the gigaton bombs in the Philippines, it would be even dirtier in radioactive fallout if exploded in the air. Pound for pound the radioactive cobalt-60 produced by the explosion emits 25 times as much deadly gamma radiation as radium. It decays relatively fast with a half life of just over five years, but if detonated in the air some scientists believe the fallout could destroy all human life before the radiation decayed to harmless levels. But as with the uranium jacket gigaton bomb, the Soviet Union has found a way to use the cobalt bomb, deep under the ocean for geophysical warfare; and having solved the dangerous problems involved in manufacturing and handling such weapons, the Soviet Union now has available an intermediate-yield super bomb that is far cheaper than bombs made from uranium.
Of the 10 Soviet cobalt bombs deployed so far, nine are positioned along boundaries between the slowly shifting crustal plates that cover the surface of the earth, while the tenth is targeted on a prime American naval target—Pearl Harbor. Their purpose is to produce a pattern of increasing earthquake and tidal wave activity as a build-up to the big disaster that awaits the Philippines.
I am skeptical of such reports from Dr. Peter Beter.
My understanding is that cobolt does not undergo either nuclear fusion or fission when used in a nuclear bomb. Rather the intense neutron flux from the nuclear bomb it jackets converts stable cobalt-59 (as found in nature) to cobalt-60. Cobalt-60 is highly radioactive, with a half life of 5.27 years.
Jacketing a nuclear bomb with cobalt will not add to its energy production, not yield a bigger bang, but will add to its radioactive fallout. Exploded in air, it can render the land on which its fallout lands uninhabitable for many years. It is a seriously "dirty" bomb, when exploded in air.
It makes no sense to me to use cobalt bombs in underground explosions ... you get neither the life destroying affects of the radioactive fallout, nor a "bigger bang."
DreamsInDigital
28th February 2012, 05:05
But you still get the energy effects of the explosion, and it's more controlled when detonated. And specially when used in a series of 3,6,9 or 12 together they do work to influence the movement of the tectonic plates. I was told Peter Beter was/is reliable for his information. Also had much of it independently confirmed by multiple sources in military and intelligence. AND the use of the cobalt bombs also independently verified. Just pointing out my rather minimal admittedly knowledge of these things, but anyway. My stronger wealth of weapons knowledge sits more with particle, plasma and sonic energy based weapons. And, other forms of light and holographics technology.
And, I do know placed in the right spot and set off in the right sequence and timing will produce a very effective Tsunami or Earthquake just based on the way the energy fields are created and travel along the plates when those things are used. And, even more so when used in an already seismically unstable or seismically "wound up" area as had already been done by the use of the HAARP on the Fukushima Event as well to amplify the effects of the Cobalt Bombs.
What Dr. Peter Beter (who was murdered to be silenced for his revealing of accurate intelligence information) mentions is only some of what they are capable of. The Fukushima Disaster is another prime example of these things being used effectively. It was a series of 9 placed in three different spots that created that destruction. It never was a single 9.1 as reported by USGS, which is a great example of their censorship. This information was testified to by one of the only surviving people that PLACED the bombs off the coast of Japan.
ThePythonicCow
28th February 2012, 05:36
But you still get the energy effects of the explosion, and it's more controlled when detonated. The cobalt doesn't explode ... as Quantum Logic (correctly I believe) noted above. So the cobalt does not add to the energy effects ... rather it absorbs neutrons, to be emitted again by the now radioactive cobolt-60, as it decays back to stable cobolt-59, over subsequent years.
I think Dr. Peter Beter was blowing smoke on this one :).
There may or may not have been nuclear bombs used to provoke the Japanese earthquake ... that I don't know, and Dr. Beter wrote of things in the 1970's and 1980's, not now. He is long gone from this world. But it would have been silly to use cobolt bombs if nuclear bombs were used.
Turcurulin
2nd March 2012, 03:33
This was uploaded by Dutchsinse today -
dEMR2BSgBwg
Hard to censor that!
DreamsInDigital
2nd March 2012, 04:25
But you still get the energy effects of the explosion, and it's more controlled when detonated. The cobalt doesn't explode ... as Quantum Logic (correctly I believe) noted above. So the cobalt does not add to the energy effects ... rather it absorbs neutrons, to be emitted again by the now radioactive cobolt-60, as it decays back to stable cobolt-59, over subsequent years.
I think Dr. Peter Beter was blowing smoke on this one :).
There may or may not have been nuclear bombs used to provoke the Japanese earthquake ... that I don't know, and Dr. Beter wrote of things in the 1970's and 1980's, not now. He is long gone from this world. But it would have been silly to use cobolt bombs if nuclear bombs were used.
Nuclear Bombs were used in Japan / Fukushima, there is substantial evidence including testimony that has been verified from one of the guys that was involved in planting the Nuclear Explosives that triggered the Tsunami. As for the Colbalt Bombs etc being used for Earth Quake Machine, and Such as Dr. Peter Beter talked about in his Audio Letters, I'm sticking with my Military and Intelligence Sources, among which said Dr. Peter Beter is a reliable source for information. :) I trust my sources. Including one that specialized before retiring in Soviet Threats, and he was among the ones that confirmed that the Russians did infact use the Cobalt Bombs in certain series and were referred to as Dr. Peter Beter states, "The Earth Quake Machine."
Plus I don't trust information sourced from Wikipedia, it's a biased and unreliable site that can be edited by just about anyone.
ThePythonicCow
2nd March 2012, 05:18
Nuclear Bombs were used in Japan / Fukushima, there is substantial evidence including testimony that has been verified from one of the guys that was involved in planting the Nuclear Explosives that triggered the Tsunami. As for the Colbalt Bombs etc being used for Earth Quake Machine, and Such as Dr. Peter Beter talked about in his Audio Letters, I'm sticking with my Military and Intelligence Sources, among which said Dr. Peter Beter is a reliable source for information. :) I trust my sources. Including one that specialized before retiring in Soviet Threats, and he was among the ones that confirmed that the Russians did infact use the Cobalt Bombs in certain series and were referred to as Dr. Peter Beter states, "The Earth Quake Machine."
Plus I don't trust information sourced from Wikipedia, it's a biased and unreliable site that can be edited by just about anyone.
You've got a rather remarkable range of sources ... Military and Intelligence Sources as well as 27 years of regular contact with Tau Cetians (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38341-UFO-Mother-Ships-Over-Peru-2011-TV-News-Report..-&p=405122&viewfull=1#post405122).
Oh - and while I don't trust Wikipedia on controversial matters , however on ordinary math and science, they are usually right. In this case, it is widely documented on the web that cobalt does not undergo nuclear fusion or fission in a nuclear bomb explosion, but rather absorbs a neutron, transitioning from C-59 to C-60 when exposed to that intense neutron radiation, and then decays back to C-59 with a half life of 5.2 years, emitting gamma radiation when it decays. If your sources included due diligence research on the web, then I suspect you'd know this.
For the curious, one can learn what gamma radiation is from Radiation Basics (http://www.gtcceis.anl.gov/guide/rad/index.cfm) or at What Types of Radiation Are There? (http://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/faqs/radiationtypes.html).
Solstyse
2nd March 2012, 05:26
Ok, well one side for the use of Cobalt bombs. An explosion underground "eats" for lack of a better word at the moment, away at the earth around it. Big explosion, lots of rumbling sure.
But a cobalt bomb could be constructed in such a way, to aim the explosion at a plate, blasting a chunk of cobalt, up into the earth. Smaller Explosion, bigger Rumble.
Solstyse
2nd March 2012, 05:29
This was uploaded by Dutchsinse today -
dEMR2BSgBwg
Hard to censor that!
This Video is Worthy of its Own Thread.
Paul?
ThePythonicCow
2nd March 2012, 05:45
This Video is Worthy of its Own Thread.
Paul?
Sure - good idea - go for it.
mountain_jim
2nd March 2012, 15:10
I agree. I was shocked to see those plumes, followed by the quake soon after.
There has been a lot of weird stuff going on around western TN with FEMA and HLS, almost as if they have 'seen' a future major EQ there in the near future. Harp Status has been pointing there as well earlier this week.
EnergyGardener
2nd March 2012, 15:39
D.I.D., can you shed some light on this?
Is this the after effect of what was stopped, or do serious issues remain?
EG
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