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drizzt
26th February 2012, 22:20
http://gma.yahoo.com/fugates-kentucky-skin-bluer-lake-louise-200247843--abc-news.html


In the Hindu i believe religion that the God's were blue color?

If this is the case then from this article of a defect in the gene pool that they may be decedents of the Gods or the Gods had a gene disorder?

i am putting this out there for just a question of past and present link up?

Lettherebelight
26th February 2012, 22:38
Right. The Vedas say that humans used to be all sorts of colours; not just bluish, but greenish, blackish, reddish (copper-coloured)...there was much more variety.

The Vedas are not 'Hindu'. They are for all humans inhabiting this planet.

Interestingly, in previous ages there was much more interaction with people from other planets, this may be why there were so many types of humans.

...according to the Vedas.

maybe something like this...

http://www.backtohome.com/images/Krishna_Cowherds.jpg

Douglass
26th February 2012, 22:42
the vedas and the whole of Indian culture is so fascinating to me. cool post. thanks

DNA
26th February 2012, 22:47
The Deep Caverns of Cushman Arkansas (http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/cushman.html)


Excerpt from branton's THE UNDERGROUND EMPIRE (http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/undergnd.html):


During the latter part of the 1950's the exploration party had investigated some very interesting caverns, mainly within the area of Arkansas and the surrounding states.
At on point they came across one particular cavern some miles north of Batesville, Arkansas.
This was in an area where several caverns were located.
Many of these caves (concentrated generally NW-West of the town of Cushman) have in fact been the subject of some very interesting accounts, suggesting that there might be more thanone route to the nether regions below other than the one discovered by David L. and his friends.
There are accounts of several people who have entered some of these caves and were never seen again; or who encountered strange phenomena deep underground - such as electrical failure of flashlights, suggesting possible electromagnetic interference; accounts involving extremely deep caverns; gas pockets encountered at extreme depths; and an account concerning one of the caves west of Cushman which seemed to have ancient carvings over it depicting various figures; and there is even one account which came from an Oklahoma man who was told by a friend of his of being chased from a cavern west of Cushman by a large hairy humanoid who began throwing boulders at him as if annoyingly scaring him out of "his" territory!

At one point David L's group came across one particular cavern near the town. Over a period of years, returning from time to time to this particular cavern, the explorers had crossed underground lakes, followed dead-end leads, explored "breakdown" areas, investigated numerous cracks and chasms, and steep inclines. One of their most fortunate discoveries was made in a large boulder-strewn break-down area about half-way between the entrance and an underground "lake".
They noticed a crack in the path which they had found through the boulders and, following this crack into the thick of the breakdown they came across another area where the crevice widened enough to allow them entrance.

Following this they descended for a very great distance for a very long while, down a sloping 45 degree incline, so steep in places that rope had to be used. This steep, sloping passage led them past a couple of horizontal "side passages" which they followed a few miles to dead ends, and continued deeper through at least one more crevice.
Eventually they emerged into a large cavernous area hundreds of feet high and long, which they named "glass cave" because of it's features, and used it as a central "camp" in subsequent explorations.
The remarkable thing about this cavern, however, was their claim that it was located almost 4 MILES beneath the surface of the earth, which would definitely make it deeper than any other "officially" recognized cavern.

Time and again they explored the mazes and labyrinths deep in the earth using "glass cave" as their central camp.
Two passages in the far wall of this chamber, opposite from the crevice through which they first entered glass cave, were each explored for 3 days continuously before they decided to turn back.
According to David L., these passages still continued onward with no end in sight.
Could these have led to the gloomy 'hadean' like caverns which they were to see later, and which they alleged contained 'gigantic serpents' or snakes capable of crushing a human being to death in a few seconds?
After some experiments involving air flow within glass cave, the explorers were able to trace slight air movements to another as-yet- undiscovered crevice hidden within the wall, not far from the crevice which they had entered from above.
This passage, through relatively small, continued still DEEPER into the earth. They explored the steep incline for what they approximated to be a mile, before reaching an area of "breakdown".
This "seemed" to be the end of the line.
Just as they were about to turn back in disappointment from this passage which had taken them deeper than they had ever been before, one of the members of the team noticed that the light of their carbide lamps seemed to have a faint amber tint to it.
All of them were perplexed, wondering what would be causing the phenomena.
It was decided that they would all turn off their lamps in order to see if the greenish luminescence remained.
They did so, and a minute or so afterwards their eyes adjusted to the darkness and they could faintly distinguish a greenish luminescence which seemed to emanate from the lowest part of the passage in an area where heavy "breakdown" SEEMED to close off any further progress.
George Wight was the first one to make his way to the spot in the breakdown area from which the faint light seemed to emanate and, after removing more rocks, they discovered that still another crack or crevice, barely wide enough for one man to enter at a time, descended vertically from beneath the breakdown.

According to David L., Wight volunteered himself to be the first to explore the crevice, and soon afterwards he was on his way down. A few minutes passed before those above heard the sound of what they could only guess was George slipping and falling down the crevice.
After a period of uncertainty those above, concerned for his safety, were relieved to hear the faint voice of George Wight rising up from apparently several dozen feet below. They were able to make out his excited words to the effect that he had fallen into a large tunnel, and encouraged the others to follow him.
They did so, and when they were all in the 'tunnel' they stood in stunned silence. The passage which stretched out from them in BOTH directions was not like the common natural cavern passages which they had explored for the past few days. In fact, it seemed more artificial than natural.
Approximately a dozen feet in height and about the same in width, the 'tunnel' was similar in shape to a subway tunnel, having a domed ceiling and a flat floor. What really caught their attention however, was the fact that the tunnel was illuminated by a greenish phosphorescence to the point that they did not need their carbide lamps to see their surroundings.
The strange luminescence seemed to emanate from the walls of the tunnel itself, which were clear and glass-like yet at the same time extremely hard.

In one direction the lighting effect faded out into blackness, while in the other direction the light seemed to increase. One of the members suggested that the light might be coming from the surface, and that they might be in one of the old mines which existed in the area of the cavern entrance, but others brought up the fact that, according to their calculations, they were at least five miles beneath the earth and therefore the light probably did not come from the surface.
Subsequently, the explorers decided to investigate in the direction of the "light" since it would allow them to keep some carbide in reserve for their return trip. At one point the tunnel (which was apparently cut through solid rock much of the way and then glazed over with the hard, transparent substance) opened into a gigantic cavern.
Actually, this occurred several times and at intervals, as if those who constructed the tunnel intentionally meant for them to intersect the various cavern systems. Did the ancient builders of this tunnel system possess a combination of gravitometers, x-rays and sounding radars to detect these cavities? Even as it passed through these large caverns, the tunnel still continued in the form of a transparent domed enclosure, still the same shape as before, yet this time the hard transparent substance was in the form of a 'wall' a foot or so thick that protected the group from the 'outside' or cavern environment.

And fortunately so, for beyond the luminescent walls, were black expanses of gloomy darkness within which they could faintly make out huge moving and slithering figures of what seemed to be giant serpents and other grotesque reptilian creatures as well as other non-reptilian creatures, including giant insects.
If not for the fact that these creatures were physical, tangible things, these dark caverns could have been likely candidates for the legendary 'Hades' of Greek and Hebrew tradition.
The most shocking surprise of all, however, occurred on the third day after exploration of this tunnel began, a considerable distance from the crevice from which they entered the tunnel.

They were walking along when all-of-the-sudden they turned around and found themselves face-to-face with a group of human-like beings who stood around 7 to 8 feet tall. 'Their' skin had a faint pale-bluish, almost clay-bluish tint to it and their eyes were relatively large and owl- like. But 'they' were definitely human, according to David L., who was on this particular expedition. The 'people' took out some type of electronic device, apparently some kind of parabolic communicator, and after a few attempts they succeeded in establishing a communication link using the electronic 'translator'.

At this point their story becomes even more complex, and the exact series of events, in their chronological order, are rather undefined. First, the strange 'people' made it known that the tunnel led to a network that went all throughout the earth and to even greater depths. 'They' had certain types of instruments that could monitor from a distance the emotional field or make-up of a person and thus determine their intentions.

It was only because 'the group' was found to possess an emotional makeup indicating relatively non-violent and non-selfish motivations that they were chosen to be contacted. 'They' made it known that the cavers could have traveled through the underground tunnels for weeks and would not have discovered their "city" if "they" did not wish them to, as the entrance to it was so well hidden. Here then, are some of the other incidents which allegedly occurred after the group encountered the strange people, or rather after these people CONTACTED the group (chronological sequence uncertain):

1) The group learned that the tunnels continued for hundreds of miles, at least. After the initial contact, the topsiders were taken to a hidden "elevator" and were then taken through this to the "city" where these people resided. This community was apparently made out of a glass-like substance, somewhat like the makeup of the tunnels themselves.

2) Their lifestyle, way of life, society, government, etc., was described as being radically different than that which existed on the surface. These people possessed a "Book of Laws" or a moral code by which they attempted to live. According to David L., if any of their society became violent or became a threat to the rest they were expelled into the tunnels, given sufficient provisions to make it on their own, and generally forced to seek out their destiny in other parts of the nether regions. This punishment for unrepentant "criminals" was apparently practiced only on very rare occasions.

3) The technology used by this civilization was very complex, and is based largely on the technology of the lost races who lived before the flood and whose demise resulted in the abandonment of the subterranean system, along with all of the sophisticated technology which had been left there as well. The race encountered by David L. and his group allegedly were direct descendants of Noah, and were of a race of explorers who came to the Western Hemisphere some centuries following the deluge and discovered and took up residence within the ancient subsystem where they now resided. Some of the technology left by the "ancients" is still not understood by the people encountered by the speleologists. The group was also shown tremendous dark caverns miles beneath the city, where the subterraneans had found ancient ruins of this ancient lost race. Some of these buildings were sealed, apparently the desperate act of the vanished race who built them.

4) Some of the caverns--especially the extremely deep one's in which the ancient cities were found--were miles in diameter. Some were pitch black and so still and silent that a whisper could seemingly be heard miles away. Some of the upper caverns through which the 'tunnel' penetrated contained not only serpent-like creatures but also huge, hairy 'humanoids', perhaps tied-in with the Sasquatch family. These however were particularly violent in nature, possibly due to their environment and constant proximity to the serpents. Apparently there was an ongoing conflict between the "hairy" humanoids and the reptilian creatures in the caverns. According to David L., these hairy giants had faces "only a mother could love". On one occasion, their subterranean friends demonstrated some type of hand-held beam weapon by pointing it at one of the large serpents which could be seen through the tunnel "walls". The beam melted through the transparent barrier and the serpent disappeared in a sizzling glow of fire.

5) The group attempted to tell their story to friends of theirs on the surface. Apparently they made several trips after their first encounter with the blue-skinned race. However, their story was rejected and met with mockery and ridicule. They attempted to gather proof of their visit, and made a special trip "down under" just for that purpose, and succeeded in capturing a "giant cave moth" which roamed the deeper caverns. They placed it in a bag and upon returning topside they opened the bag and exposed the creature to the brilliant summer sun. For some reason, the sunlight had a disintegrating effect on the insect and before they could show it to anyone as proof it had dried up, become brittle and eventually crumbled to dust. After this, they gave up all attempts to get anyone to believe them, and resigned themselves to keep the secret among the twelve individuals who made up the exploration and support teams, that is, until David L. was given permission to reveal the story to the now late Charles A. Marcoux (Note: Marcoux incidentally died as a result of a 'heart attack', while exploring the surface areas around the Cushman caves. His wife described it as a sudden and irrational attack of fear resulting from a swarm of bees that Charles had encountered. One must realize that 'fear' is one of the most powerful weapons utilized by the 'infernals' who would attempt to blind mankind to conditions taking place in the inner world. However, by the grace of God Almighty, many have been able to defend themselves from the "body terror" utilized by the reptilians and which can often lead to paralysis, heart attacks, insanity or even suicide).

Eventually George Wight decided to remain below with their subterranean friends, and on their second-to-the-last trip they said their goodbyes. They allegedly made one more trip afterwards during which they met with their friend, who was doing well, for the last time.
The peculiar thing about this incident, according to David, was that shortly after Wight had joined this underground society all evidence and records of him ever existing began to mysteriously disappear from the surface.
Birth certificates, school records, computer records, bank records, etc. all seemed to vanish, apparently the work of someone in a very influential position who was able to erase all evidence that Wight had ever lived.
Some researchers still retain copies of George Wight's articles from the old UFO periodical, nevertheless. This would open up the possibility that this underground race closely monitors events on the surface, and even has "workers" in various influential positions who act as mediators in surface society. Everything points to the fact that this subterranean race prefers it's privacy and does not wish to become involved in the political conflict and chaos which has for untold centuries plagued the surface world by warring factions constantly fighting over territorial rights, etc.

There is apparently much more to this account than we can relate here, however for various reasons, specific information other than that which we have just related will have to remain confidential. One can seemingly find "connections" between this account and others which have been related by other sources.

For instance, John Lear has stated to some researchers that certain Apollo astronauts encountered another terran or earth-based race on the moon, a race that apparently made it there long before America did, and this 7 ft. tall, large-eyed race of humans seems to fit the same description as that given by David L. The people that Lear referred to allegedly have an alliance with the 'Blondes'. Is it possible that the underground people contacted by David know of and interact with the Telosians? Whether this small item has any connection with the people allegedly encountered by the speleologists is uncertain, but it was related by John Keel in his book 'THE MOTHMAN PROPHECIES': "...The Cherokees have a tradition, according to Benjamin Smith Barton's 'NEW VIEWS OF THE ORIGINS OF THE TRIBES AND NATIONS OF AMERICA' (1798), that when they migrated to Tennessee they found the region inhabited by a weird race of white people who lived in houses and were apparently quite civilized. They had one problem: their eyes were very large and sensitive to light. They could only see at night..." Is it possible that these people may have later taken up a cave- dwelling lifestyle, if they had not done so previously, to allow themselves more comfortable living conditions?

Lettherebelight
26th February 2012, 23:42
thanks for sharing that amazing account, DNA.

Reminds me of this..

http://spiralupward.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Snake.png

drizzt
26th February 2012, 23:58
thanks for sharing that amazing account, DNA.

Reminds me of this..

http://spiralupward.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Snake.png


this is what i am talking about and why i posted this. the blue skin!!!

Lettherebelight
27th February 2012, 00:04
I have also heard that it was due to a much higher mineral content present in all substances on the planet at that time, which would of course include foodstuffs.

I don't know why they were blue, Drzzt :noidea:

Vyasadeva, the compiler of the Vedas, was also blue.

http://www.ibreak4bacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/4320996071_608b57924e-VYASADEVA-17_M.jpg

9eagle9
27th February 2012, 00:32
I am related to one of those families. A former Avalon member helped me find some information regarding blue people in the US. Blue people existed what was the British Isles a long time ago, Ireland, Wales and Isle of Man, particularly Isle of Man. We had the stories of the blue people in my family. Some said they were of Pictish Extraction and/ or that came from the Danu de Tuatha , originals Gods of Ireleand. Many of the blue tinged had one been druids. There is legend associated with the blue people concerning the conquest of Ireland and America, is the Blue should never, by any means encounter the Red people. It would result in a mixing blood (resulting in Purple) with such spiritual capabilities that rivaled the powers brokers of worlds dominance, many bloodlines in Great Britian were decimated particularly on the patriachal side , and most Ireland was quashed as result ,in part. And so were the Native Americas, there were some mingling of blue and red blood. I was curious as to why the ptb were so concerned about the mingling of blue and red blood, and at this I heard of Duncan O"Fiannian for the first time.

Bottom--the mixing of these bloods intiates genetic repairation. Re-establishing a race that was once lost.

Twas very interesting.

Lettherebelight
27th February 2012, 00:59
Wow...that is interesting, 9eagle9. I never knew about the blue people of the US..who are the red?

Is that condition of methemoglobinemia like what they refer to as 'the Blue-blooded' European aristocracy?

Wind
27th February 2012, 01:15
We Sons of God are of many colors and races. But ultimately we are all One.

meeradas
27th February 2012, 01:23
My wife was born blue-skinned.
Tough pill for roman catholic parents to swallow.
[It slowly vanished; otherwise she might not be here, now]

Thanks 9E9 for the extra info; certain things are making a little sense now.

9eagle9
27th February 2012, 01:28
You may be correct if it's the one you are talking about that is has to do with up take of a missing protein? I can't think of the name I'm thinking of the symptoms.

There was another called bleeding disease too, the two diseases went hand in hand. Bleeders or those who can't process Vitamin K were associated among the blue bloods too. Hemophiliacs.

That makes a lot of sense the earliest forms of monarchy orginated in a form of rule that was actualy beneficial. More of a godlike mother/ father king/ queen role who took care of their subjects than the monarchies we see today. Today's modern usurper monarchies , even though now corrupted from the original version, still emulate the genetic practices of the more benevolent orginators.


Wow...that is interesting, 9eagle9. I never knew about the blue people of the US..who are the red?

Is that condition of methemoglobinemia like what they refer to as 'the Blue-blooded' European aristocracy?

drizzt
27th February 2012, 01:31
I am related to one of those families. A former Avalon member helped me find some information regarding blue people in the US. Blue people existed what was the British Isles a long time ago, Ireland, Wales and Isle of Man, particularly Isle of Man. We had the stories of the blue people in my family. Some said they were of Pictish Extraction and/ or that came from the Danu de Tuatha , originals Gods of Ireleand. Many of the blue tinged had one been druids. There is legend associated with the blue people concerning the conquest of Ireland and America, is the Blue should never, by any means encounter the Red people. It would result in a mixing blood (resulting in Purple) with such spiritual capabilities that rivaled the powers brokers of worlds dominance, many bloodlines in Great Britian were decimated particularly on the patriachal side , and most Ireland was quashed as result ,in part. And so were the Native Americas, there were some mingling of blue and red blood. I was curious as to why the ptb were so concerned about the mingling of blue and red blood, and at this I heard of Duncan O"Fiannian for the first time.

Bottom--the mixing of these bloods intiates genetic repairation. Re-establishing a race that was once lost.

Twas very interesting.

well if they were purple then that would make them royal then right? purple is royalty?

9eagle9
27th February 2012, 14:41
Ah.....yeah, ....yeah....and no....lol.......well look at it this way. Purple is traditionally a color associated with Monarchy or royalty. But also a higher spirtuality.

If you go back further purple blooded people were the original monarchs, more spiritually oriented who ruled more like benvolent gods, or were considered gods, and ruled benevolently taking care of their subjects welfare. Purple is also associated with spiritual advancement. Perhaps just humans that were not genetically altered. Irish myths expresses their early gods (kings and rulers) are more like advanced humans than Greek or Bibiical Gods . So there is connect between the color, royalty and a reference to spiritual realization. The Picts of the Britsh Isles wore wode blue which is a pigment when combined with red would create purple.

Ancient medicine wheels showed not just the colors of red, yellow, white and black, as they do now, but at one time also had blue in there as well.

There was an aspect of the Picts that descended down from the Purple folks. Celts had a monarchy at one time that was the god like rulers, and because the descendants of those monarchies were not precisely regents themselves, but were related, honored the color blue and assumed it as character of themselves . They painted their faces blue to show aspects and relation to royalty as it existed for them. The Pictish too are a lost race.

This sort of thing has happened in other cultures as well. Like the blue Gods/ blue rulers of India.

With genetic dissolving of bloodlines you can take out a whole bloodline, like an entire clan of people. But the blood and the genetics remain it would impossible to know where it all genetically got dispersed to. That is why we had so many cultures and races wiped out to prevent this reclamation of genetics, or re pooling.

In Irelands case by the time Ireland was assimilated the ptb had taken with such a notion of patriachal rule and lent it such important that they mistakenly began wiping out bloodlines based on how they came down on the father's side. You note they did this in the Bible as well with Jesus' lineage to avoid any reference to matriachal influence.

However the genetics that the ptb were so concerned about spreading throughout the world and possibly encountering another subset of bloodlines that intiate this sort of repairation, believed their own story. The atriachal side that it was passed down through remained, while they focused on cutting down from the patriachal side. The druids said that these bloodlines of monarchy were self preserving. Somehow or another genetics itself ensured their preservation. Not neccesarly their abundance but their preservation.

The ptb have done everything they can do erradicate it but they can't, its self preserving.






I am related to one of those families. A former Avalon member helped me find some information regarding blue people in the US. Blue people existed what was the British Isles a long time ago, Ireland, Wales and Isle of Man, particularly Isle of Man. We had the stories of the blue people in my family. Some said they were of Pictish Extraction and/ or that came from the Danu de Tuatha , originals Gods of Ireleand. Many of the blue tinged had one been druids. There is legend associated with the blue people concerning the conquest of Ireland and America, is the Blue should never, by any means encounter the Red people. It would result in a mixing blood (resulting in Purple) with such spiritual capabilities that rivaled the powers brokers of worlds dominance, many bloodlines in Great Britian were decimated particularly on the patriachal side , and most Ireland was quashed as result ,in part. And so were the Native Americas, there were some mingling of blue and red blood. I was curious as to why the ptb were so concerned about the mingling of blue and red blood, and at this I heard of Duncan O"Fiannian for the first time.

Bottom--the mixing of these bloods intiates genetic repairation. Re-establishing a race that was once lost.

Twas very interesting.

well if they were purple then that would make them royal then right? purple is royalty?

9eagle9
27th February 2012, 15:43
"...The Cherokees have a tradition, according to Benjamin Smith Barton's 'NEW VIEWS OF THE ORIGINS OF THE TRIBES AND NATIONS OF AMERICA' (1798), that when they migrated to Tennessee they found the region inhabited by a weird race of white people who lived in houses and were apparently quite civilized. They had one problem: their eyes were very large and sensitive to light. They could only see at night..." Is it possible that these people may have later taken up a cave- dwelling lifestyle, if they had not done so previously, to allow themselves more comfortable living conditions?



My family in KY has mentioned stories about this on several different occasions. Choctaw and Cherokee Natives remained in the area when we first settled on the Tenn/ Ky border and related stories of this nature and those stories got passed down as legends of sort throughout the area. My father used to tell me stories about blue Indians. and my uncle told me stories about 'giant' blue Indians.

That whole area of Ky, Tenn, Arkansas, etc is riddled with caverns, and what they call underground seas. Many of the ones closest to the surface are or have been tourist attractions. A lot of them are being shut down claiming 'erosion' and shutting them down as an attempt to preserve them.

We have a settelment in the same area, a place on top of mountain that my family and various branches built and remained in relative seclusion there from the rest of the word. So from the early 1900's to the 1950's (when the Wight story took place) then suddenly we had to move....for a rather strange reasons which did not become clear until more recently.. There is a sand cave on this settlement that is very WEIRD, weird opticial illusions, wierd sound distortions all just very creepy. But it remains a part of my family's hertiage you go visit the sand cave at least once or twice when you got to visit the old homestead which is now a National Park. Not a well known National Park, the general public is prohibited from visiting here which is rather odd don't you think?

Not as odd as the story behind making the place a national park (that the public is prohibited from visiting)

Now for some reason that didn't become clearer to me until recently, in the 1950s, the government got a huge bug up its butt that my family and its various branches should no longer live on this settlement. So we essentially got displaced. Had to move to off of it. So they did, moving a short distance from the Settlement. We had rights to go back up there because we have family buried there.

So what is weird is that government moves my pioneering family off this settlement to make a monument or national park to 'the enduring spirit of American pioneers!!! Is that weird or what. Move the actual pioneers OFF the settlment and make it a national park to a pioneering spirit the moment their gone. But the public can't visit it to see the national park dedicated to the enduring spirit of American Pioneers....lol. It's remote you can only go up there by horseback or 4wd. Now its to the point that 4wd is iffy,they have not maintained the roads up there. And the park service will only take you up there certain times of the year. If they can get up there at all. So save for the very seldom tourist, some locals, and my family no one hardly ever goes up there.

Why? Why ...that cave is just one small outlet of a greater series of caverns, that as DNA has noted here, streches ALL over that area.

Now in the surrounding area there were once lots of caverns and caves on the Tenn/Ky border not far from our sand cave and settlement, and many have been shut down. Because they said tourism was eroding them. Uh-huh. And that a new highway going into Cumberland had to be made so many of the cavern and cave outlets were shut down. so much for preservation. You want to keep the public out....put a highway over it.

So it took a while to sort of peice together something hinky is going on. But when I was teenager my cousin and I were outside her house in KY and the view from the front yard shows the mountain the settlment is on. We're out in the yard on a bright sunny day in summer and this craft comes drifing up from the mountain and glides very slowly over the valley to the next peak , taking its sweet time, and disappears behind another mountain.

It wasn't until years later I realized that craft may have something to do with that sand cave given where it appeared from.

What interests me about the Wight Story and is the time frame. What occurred with my family and what occured in the Wight story happened around the same time. One is in Arkansas in a place raddled with caves, and another is in Kentucky-Tennesse another place with extensive caves and cavern systems.

And the area. So many of those cave systems that run down through that portion of the US are interconnected in some fashion . And as the years have passed more and more of these caves and outlets have been shut down to prevent the public from going in there.

9eagle9
27th February 2012, 15:53
The whole matter reminds me of David Eddings work. He was a speculative fiction author who stated he wrote fantasy fiction to explore certain philosophical ideas he had about the nature of the world. He had a race of people who were very highly advanced spiritually with large dark eyes and pale skin who lived underground. The reason they moved under ground was that great Cataclysm had afflicted the earth and had driven man and beast crazy. Cracking of the earth and a deluge, and the psychic backlash from these events caused many beasts and humans to lose their minds, becoming viscious and warlike and unstable. So they retreated underground to these vast caverns to live. The Ulgos they called them.

If anyone is familar with his works the Belgariad Series and the Mallaorain series which all about bloodlines, and preservation of monarchs, and lost peoples , people got divided and lost touch with certain aspects of their origins. All ficitonal but its certainly intriguing to find aspect of historical exploration in his books in reality. The themes in there were about fate and destiny repeating itself over and over again until 'someting' got corrected, about preservation of ruling bloodlines, cultures that wanted to wipe out ruling bloodlines, things of that nature.

Cjay
27th February 2012, 17:23
This is a fascinating thread - thank you to all the contributors. As always, when I read something fascinating like this, I like to do some more research. While not as mysterious as the accounts given by previous posters, I found these stories and pictures.


October 11, 2007
Health: The blue people

The blue Fugates were a tight-knit family living in the Appalachian Mountains. The patriarch of the clan was Martin Fugate, who settled along the banks of Troublesome Creek near Hazard, Kentucky, sometime after 1800. His wife, Mary, is thought to have been a carrier for a rare disease known as hereditary methemoglobinemia, or met-H.

http://www.brandweeknrx.com/images/2007/10/11/fugatefamily_2.gif

Due to an enzyme deficiency, the blood of met-H victims has reduced oxygen-carrying capacity. Instead of being the usual bright red, arterial blood is chocolate brown and gives the skin of Caucasians a bluish cast. Hereditary met-H is caused by a recessive gene. If only one parent has this gene, the peson will be normal, but if they both have it, there's a good chance he'll be blue.

None of Martin and Mary Fugate's descendants would have been blue had they not intermarried with a nearby clan, the Smiths. The Smiths were descendants of Richard Smith and Alicia Combs, one of whom apparently was also a met-H carrier.

Because of inbreeding among the isolated hill folk--the Fugate family tree is a tangled mess of cousins marrying cousins--blue people started popping up frequently thereafter. A half dozen or so were on the scene by the 1890s, and one case was reported as recently as 1975.

Television stations tried to interview them, but were repeatedly chased away.

In 1960 a doctor named Madison Cawein heard about the blue Fugates and succeeded in tracking down several of them. Luckily some cases of hereditary met-H among native Alaskans had been written up in the medical literature not long before, so he was able to diagnose the problem fairly quickly. He also prescribed a simple, if temporary, cure--the chemical methylene blue, which replaced the missing enzyme in the blood. The results were dramatic. Within minutes after getting a dose, the blue Fugates became a normal pink for the first time in their lives.

Source: http://www.brandweeknrx.com/2007/10/health-the-blue.html


The people in the photographs below have a condition known as Argyria - they turned blue from colloidal silver...


The Blue People

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http://www.paranormalstories.com/images/071219_karason_northrup_470.jpg


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Silver accumulates in the body over time. Chronic intake of silver products can result in an accumulation of silver or silver sulfide particles in the skin. As in photography (where silver is used due to its reactivity with light), these particles in the skin darken with exposure to sunlight, resulting in a blue or gray discoloration of the skin. This condition is known as argyria.

On December 20, 2007 the world press published stories about Paul Karason, a Californian man whose entire skin gradually turned blue after consuming colloidal silver made by himself with distilled water, salt and silver, and using a silver salve on his face in an attempt to treat problems with his sinus, dermatitis, acid reflux, and other issues. This happened because he drank gallons of colloidal silver per week for years.

A prominent case was that of Stan Jones of Montana, a Libertarian candidate for the United States Senate in 2002 and 2006. Jones acquired argyria through consumption of a home-made silver product that he made due to fears that the Year 2000 problem would make antibiotics unavailable. The peculiar colouration of his skin was featured prominently in media coverage of his unsuccessful campaign, though Jones contends that the best-known photo was "doctored". Jones promised that he was not using his silvery complexion as a gimmick. He continues to promote the use of colloidal silver as a home remedy. He has said that his good health, excepting the unusual skin tone, is the result of his use of colloidal silver.

Source (and more here): http://www.assaultweb.net/Forums/showthread.php?p=577789



True-blue bids for Senate

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Jones is aiming to be America's first blue senator

A US Senate hopeful in the state of Montana has a bad case of the blues after years of drinking a home-made silver solution for medical reasons.

Libertarian candidate Stan Jones, 63, first discovered his skin was turning blue last year.

He began taking colloidal silver in 1999 amid fears that disruptions caused by the millennium bug might lead to a shortage of antibiotics.

His condition, known as argyria, is not serious.

Mr Jones is one of three candidates challenging Democrat Max Baucus for a Senate seat in November's mid-term elections.

Anthrax 'treatment'

He made the solution by electrically charging two silver wires in a glass of water.

"People ask me if it's permanent and if I'm dead," he told the Associated Press news agency. "I tell them I'm practising for Halloween."

Colloidal silver is marketed as an anti-bacterial agent or immune-system booster.

Along with other dietary supplements, it was offered as a treatment for illnesses such as anthrax following bio-terror alerts in the US last year. But there is no scientific proof of its efficacy.


Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2297471.stm

Billy
27th February 2012, 17:41
I remember reading accounts of NDE many years ago. One young girl died and came back only to say. God is beautiful, He is BLUE and beautiful. Also many were surrounded by a blue light. I dont think all the Hindu Gods were blue, Only the incarnations of Vishnu as Shiva as Krishna etc.

Maia Gabrial
27th February 2012, 18:06
http://gma.yahoo.com/fugates-kentuck...-abc-news.html


In the Hindu i believe religion that the God's were blue color?

If this is the case then from this article of a defect in the gene pool that they may be decedents of the Gods or the Gods had a gene disorder?

i am putting this out there for just a question of past and present link up?

Anytime scientists can't explain something, they use the "disorder" explanation. This is similar to their "junk DNA" one. It's understandable that they're under pressure to provide answers, even when they can't seem to find them. Why don't they just put it into the "Don't Know" category, instead of giving us "bullsh*t" explanations? Most of us would understand....right?

Cjay
28th February 2012, 14:15
Anytime scientists can't explain something, they use the "disorder" explanation. This is similar to their "junk DNA" one. It's understandable that they're under pressure to provide answers, even when they can't seem to find them. Why don't they just put it into the "Don't Know" category, instead of giving us "bullsh*t" explanations? Most of us would understand....right?

Very well said, Maia.

I think a lot of scientists develop a superiority complex. Even if they are not deliberately executing an agenda to maintain the ignorance of the general public, the ego of a know-it-all won't allow them to say "I don't know". If they have not seen it, been taught it or thought of it themself, then they dismiss it out of hand as somthing that is impossible and utterly ridiculous.