Kerry's public message to Light Workers who serve the dark

[NternalArchitect]

From Kerry's Blog, Feb 27th.

NOT SO FAST… WHITE LIGHTERS WHO SERVE THE DARK

WITHOUT NAMING NAMES…what I see some well known individuals and probably others…falling down on the job because they are being used by the DARK SIDE. They are taken in by a fervent desire to DO SOMETHING but they don't know what to do so they research... to a point and then they let their EGO and a ROMANTIC SENSE OF SELF OVERCOME the facts staring them in the face.
I don't know why they think, for example, there are UNDERGROUND BASES BEING BLOWN UP. There is no proof yet they continue to act like they WON A BATTLE. This is EGO and self deception… It's a very dangerous concoction: to THINK YOU ARE WINNING A WAR before you are. BECAUSE THE DARK SIDE CAN USE THAT.

I am seriously thinking about how the idea of VICTORY and a sense of "WE MAKE OUR OWN REALITY" are now being used by the dark side because WHEN PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE WINNING THEY RELAX. Self congratulation sets in along with a false sense of well being--like eating comfort food. It's temporary and not really nourishing. Then they tell others LIKE DRINK THIS KOOL-AID and just BE HAPPY.

This gives the dark side has an easy MARK and a population that doesn't rebel or question. Easy TO MANIPULATE.
This is what happened to AMERICA. They GOT LULLED TO SLEEP while the DARK TOOK OVER. Thinking you are FREE doesn't MAKE IT SO!!!

This is how they work WITH SUGAR AND SHINEY BAUBLES meanwhile our rights are disappearing and the dark side is moving in to tighten the NOOSE!

Crazy. I actually think that if you analyze this you realize that these guys believing this false sense of winning... are those who have felt most oppressed and powerless to begin with. They get a taste of victory.. because the LIGHT is winning some battles right now... and they get like HIGH OFF IT.. and can't bear coming down. So they make **** up and see false signs everywhere substantiating their false sense of winning.

It's like A KIND OF BLINDNESS SETS IN.... one taste of victory, of the power of being able to change reality ever so slightly and they get DRUNK ON IT.

They are so desperate to feel powerful and to accomplish something.

The crowds that follow them are just feeding off the MANA FROM HEAVEN they think they have.... like an opiate. This is how the NEW AGE BECAME THE NEW OPIATE OF THE MASSES..replacing religion. But still used by the dark side to CONTROL.

WHAT IS THE ANECDOTE TO THIS false sense of euphoria??
STAY HUNGRY... STAY VIGILANT... STAY SKEPTICAL...AND ON GUARD. BE RELAXED IN BATTLE BUT KNOW THE BATTLE GOES ON UNTIL THE OTHER SIDE(S) CALL FOR MERCY OR GET UP AND F---KING LEAVE. RETREAT. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

This is perfect if you look at what happened with a recent interviewee... he was involved in a legitimate ACT OF VALOR.. then they brought him in and mind controlled him silly until he was ready then they RELEASED HIM.
He went out like a Manchurian Candidate until the time was right to join the new age thang....And when in my interview we got to the end... he delivered his real message... backed up by legit facts and real suffering...

Then he paints a FALSE PICTURE OF VICTORY... Dec 21, 2012.. it's ALL GOING TO BE OK... TRUTH WILL BE EVERYWHERE... THE BAD GUYS ARE GOING DOWN ETC ETC

And when on the Livestream follow up interviews... he had nothing more to add...AND, I didn't let him go on for hours repeating himself he got vindictive and he and his lotus eating masses who had drunk his kool-aid from the end of the first interview all turned on me. LOL

They are like ZOMBIES from Day of the Dead or something going for the blood… Mad with greed for more Kool-Aid that claims they are now KING OF THE MOUNTAIN AND VICTORIOUS. When in reality all they are is dazed and confused. Lost in their own private Idahos. An amazing dynamic we are seeing.

[Earth Angel]

was this posted on Kerrys blog ???

[NternalArchitect]

Personally, Kerry has aaaaaaaaaalways rubbed me the wrong way. I've heard the term.. 'jabbing elbows' in her interviews. You can just feel her ego, and anger. Like her constant stress activates her lower chakras, but doesn't continue up.

So brash and it just comes off ugly, imo. Rough.

I honestly don't feel there is much truth in this. Yes, there are people who have to fight the battle in their natural positions of functioning. People like Alex Jones and Kerry Cassidy.. They activate their lower chakras orange and yellow by being such fervent activists.. cause themselves damage upon internal damage, but this must be done to awaken people. I think this happens naturally as the 'truth vibrations' continue into the end of 2012. In my experience of life, this is definitely occuring, and I pretty much feel we have this won. I don't feel in my heart that this is a fabrication. It's a free reality liberation and is the natural way.

I absolutely agree with David on the vibration of the individual affecting the consciousness, or the tendencies and potentials of the world. If we stay in stress, and anger, as I feel she does, then we perpetuate that energy. It only expands. Through consciousness, I think all is possible.

I feel like learning love and knowing that love is the key is definitely a good message from David. People don't fall asleep. They then have something greater to plug into and hold on to leaving the old system behind. What can we as the public truly do? Unless we mass revolt, the best we can do is spread and hold love in ourselves, and I DO feel that this is massively important.

Her ego of knowing inside tracks and what not taints her message. So brash and rude.

[Rantaak]

Ouch. This reeks of light-sider PTSD and paranoid schizophrenia.

I can't figure out which is more annoying. Someone screaming, "LOOK HOW HURT I AM," or some master hypnotist in a suit. Honestly, I'd have to say that I have more respect for the intellect and composure of the latter.

I still believe forehead-man regarding issues of unity to source and other relevant topics which he has presented. Both David and Kerry have a tendency for histrionics, but at least one of them produces more utilitous histronics.

[NternalArchitect]

Yes, this is straight off her blog.

[jackovesk]

Was it David Wilcock or Was it Bill Wood..?

Doesn't really matter now, does it..?

Kerry is just expressing her 'Frustration' is all..?

But its a 'Self-Inflicted' Wound, isn't it..?

[Ol' Roy]

Amen Kerry,
What do they want us to believe? Be very, very cautious! They as the PTB are very convivirous into beliveving that things are going down. When their NWO is coming up. Please be aware and prepare!!! Love to all you Avolonians and to those who don't understand!

[gripreaper]

Apparently the alternative media is gaining more and more readers and MSM is losing viewers, as it sure appears that there is a deluge of provocateurs and disinfo and channeled stuff plaguing the alternative media at this time.

Must be getting too close to the truth, or too many people are waking up.

[Selene]

Personally, i think Kerry got it exactly right. And no, I don't think it was aimed at Wilcock; she could have simply phoned him instead. They are close.

And she has every right to rant once in a while - or often. It's her blog - and her opinion. Do you have a better idea? Why not post it yourself?

Or are we happier trying to stage-manage the behavior of others? In what respect have you earned the right to be her critic? Just asking.

[Solstyse]

We have a current thread talking about stuff like this.

Please post a few paragraphs, and then the link. Or at least bless us with an introduction, or some type of context before just cutting and pasting.

[lslimerick]

Her message is one of mass hysteria - FEAR.....jesus some times I think everyone that is working in this field or contributing, thinks we are all a bunch of complete idiots that drink kool aid all day - I take what I want and dump the rest.....we have 2 scenarios that ARE going to happen, we blow up this world or we are actually changing the game and that will show itself, which includes all this stuff the last few weeks....Either way, one IS going to happen, so lets not worry and focus on what we actually would like to see happen and all these whistleblowers and channelers can deliver what ever news they want.....if a nuclear bomb is set off, then hey we have lost nothing.....spend less time trying to predict the future and interviewing and maybe a small bit of time taking a few deep breaths or a gallon of wine, either is good with me....

[gooty64]

The title is is unfair. imo

I agree with Selene that is not about David Wilcock but, is possibly-even likely-about Bill Wood,

btw OP, it's obviously not obvious!

[Cilka]

It's very natural to express one's emotions. If you keep your emotions inside then the anger/pain will show up somewhere within the body. It's absolutely normal for Kerry to finally blow up, it took her some time but finally she let go of it. Some of you who are criticising her have no idea how important her work is; she is giving us everything on a silver platter and all we have to do is to pick through the information she presents to us and we, hopefully, can learn from it.

Feeling love at all times is a new age mentality. We live in a 3D world, where we are exposed to all kinds of bull****. Most of the times we can stay calm but sometimes the **** hits the ceiling and we get hit by it. So, the best thing to do for some of us is to face the ****, we can went out while facing it and the next day we make love to the reality we live in once again.

I have a lot of respect for Kerry's work, she is one of the few who allows her guests to speak their mind. But sometimes the guests can act like irritating parasites under the skin, which is still OK because they represent the best teachers to all of us. I truly do respect these kind of people as well.

[Dennis Leahy]

May want to change the title. That rant ain't aimed at David Wilcock - it's aimed at Bill Brockbrader. Or more specifically, Brockbrader's controllers.

She's pissed off at the Master Mechanics that disassembled and reassembled Bill Brockbrader's mind - for their own use (as a disinfo broadcast agent.)

I'm with Kerry on this. I hear no fat lady singing - or even warming up. The Dark Cabal/Godzilla/Global Rulers were a nearly unbeatable hydra 100 years ago - and that was before they gained control of "the most powerful nation on Earth" and created the high-tech divisions of black-ops and intelligence that they now have.

Kerry may want to change the word "anecdote" to "antidote", but her meaning comes through clearly. Don't start making guacamole for the "End Of The Cabal" party just yet - it will turn black before you can eat it.

We have a LOT of work to do, and we had better be vigilant and brilliant - or very very very very very lucky.

Dennis

{edit} I re-read it, and the end is about Brockbrader, but the beginning does engulf anyone and everyone who has comfortably relied on and re-broadcast some unsubstantiated info that Kerry believes is disinfo (case in point: underground bases being wiped out. - I also believe this is disinfo) So, that at least loosely snares David Wilcock and Ben Fulford, among others.

In the chain of sources, going backwards, it could be several levels back where disinfo is injected into the stream. Thus, the person who delivered the info (that I believe to be disinfo) about underground bases being destroyed may have typically been a good, honest, reliable source. Who better to "poison" with disinfo?

More than a rant, this is a warning from Kerry (and I truly do NOT see it as fear mongering to yell "TRAIN!" when there's a train coming at us.) She's angry that the disinfo is getting through to people, making people believe that the battle is over - before the battle has begun. This is an important wake-up call from Kerry. Don't get lost in the emotion, the sawtooth frequency, or the orange aura of the message or messenger - go to the (skull and) bones.

[Mozart]

{Edit: After reading lots of comments about Kerry's rant in her blog, it is now clear to me that her rant may have been aimed partially at Wilcock, after all, so now my position on this part of this topic has changed slightly.}

It's not aimed at David Wilcock -- this blog post of Kerry's is aimed at Bill Wood -- and I'm in a position to know this by my constant email contact with both of them.

I'm sad that she's posted this, but I'm not going to make any public judgements, as I work with her doing transcripts 'n stuff, so I do support the work that she works really hard to do.

Nobody's perfect; everybody has flaws, including David Wilcock and he knows that -- not that I'm implying anything by saying this, but I'm stating this so that people won't accuse me of being a brown-noser for David, which I'm not.

I have my own flaws that has cost me dearly, so I'm working on them the best that I can. It's a work in progress, but it's a private one, but for someone like Kerry -- or any public figure -- one's exposed flaws in personal blogs magnifies the pain that one goes through, so I strongly suggest for NONE of you to judge Kerry when she puts blogs out her inner pain for all to see.

We all have flaws; we all have our crosses to bear -- trust me on that.

I'm nearly deaf, so that's been my damn cross from the get-go and I've fought this deafness for my entire life. I had perfect-pitch hearing in past lives and was able to effortlessly score music, but this lifetime? Bah, EFF'N humbug! I DO wish that I had handled my near-deafness SO MUCH better, but that's a lesson for me that I plan to apply to my next lifetime in 4-D space-time when it arrives very, very soon.

So judge not, lest ye be judged.

[jorr lundstrom]

Well, as Modwiz said, Kerry is a bitch, but she is our bitch. Thank you Kerry for
your fighter spirit. You continue digging while others lean back in comfort.:kiss: :yo:

[NternalArchitect]

Has Bill Wood ever spoken about underground bases being blown up? Who has? Romantic sense of self? Just wanting to research? 'see false signs everywhere substantiating their false sense of winning.' Crowds and masses following them? Sounds a lot like David to me. Then referring to bill wood later separately, as though she weren't already speaking about him. It seems very likely to me that it was Wilcock.

[ThePythonicCow]

was this posted on Kerrys blog ???
Yes - the text in the opening post appears to be copied from Kerry's blog, http://projectcamelotproductions.com/blog-hp.html, for February 27, 2012.

[Carmody]

Remember the script from star wars?

"They Came from Behind!"

And they were told....

"Stay On Target!"

[ThePythonicCow]

The title is is unfair. imo

I agree with Selene that is not about David Wilcock but, is possibly-even likely-about Bill Wood,



May want to change the title. That rant ain't aimed at David Wilcock - it's aimed at Bill Brockbrader. Or more specifically, Brockbrader's controllers.



It's not aimed at David Wilcock -- this blog post of Kerry's is aimed at Bill Wood -- and I'm in a position to know this by my constant email contact with both of them.
I changed the title of this thread, from naming David Wilcock, to naming Bill Wood.

[Dennis Leahy]

Has Bill Wood ever spoken about underground bases being blown up? Who has? Romantic sense of self? Just wanting to research? 'see false signs everywhere substantiating their false sense of winning.' Crowds and masses following them? Sounds a lot like David to me. Then referring to bill wood later separately, as though she weren't already speaking about him. It seems very likely to me that it was Wilcock.Yes, sorry. Please see my edits in my post above.

Dennis

[DreamsInDigital]

To me this just screams FEAR as she is still in that FEAR mind-set, she will move past it some time, like some of us already have and focus instead of spreading fear, on working towards an solution. Yeah sure it's still an UP HILL battle that is being fought, but how about instead of spreading fear and further disempowering people, she should be spreading SOLUTIONS and EMPOWERMENT and encouraging people to step into their power, stop fearing the 'dark side' and come out of the defeatist mindset, and do what they can to make things change. But, they need to know we are all strong enough to shake off the mind control and really make a difference. Yes We Can Change The World, but we have to do it TOGETHER.

[ThePythonicCow]

I'm sad that she's posted this
I'm glad Kerry posted this :).

The shouting UPPER CASE rant was too hard for me read, sitting at my computer.

So I walked around, between computer and kitchen, tending to some dishes, as I read. That gave me enough distance to read the reason for the rage.

Kerry has good reason to be enraged ... reasons relevant to the situation we all find ourselves in at this time.

[gooty64]

Good point NA. Maybe she is fed up with both of them. Remember when David and Bill were giggling in interview #2 saying, "we know something really BIG but can't tell you"?
Sounds like she has mentioned both of these guys in her rant. Sorry i said it was unfair.


Has Bill Wood ever spoken about underground bases being blown up? Who has? Romantic sense of self? Just wanting to research? 'see false signs everywhere substantiating their false sense of winning.' Crowds and masses following them? Sounds a lot like David to me. Then referring to bill wood later separately, as though she weren't already speaking about him. It seems very likely to me that it was Wilcock.

[lslimerick]

I dont mind Kerry venting, its healthy, no opinion either way, what I am over is the believe that most ppl believe everything they read is truth, if thats the case - this type of blog doesnt help anyone or cure the culable....if you take what you want, then no big deal....Kerry is welcome to her path and what information she investigates, they are others who focus on empowerment and solutions and between us all, we still dont have all the information, thats the bottom line here....we could spend the next 40,000 years on cabals, enlightenment, ascension, channeling, up and down, in and out and it will still be a mystery....we are here to remember who we are, not what others are doing....but hey, we would rather focus on anything but ourselves...me thinks anyway!!

[ThePythonicCow]

More than a rant, this is a warning from Kerry (and I truly do NOT see it as fear mongering to yell "TRAIN!" when there's a train coming at us.) She's angry that the disinfo is getting through to people, making people believe that the battle is over - before the battle has begun. This is an important wake-up call from Kerry. Don't get lost in the emotion, the sawtooth frequency, or the orange aura of the message or messenger - go to the (skull and) bones.
Well said. Thanks.

(Perhaps my changed title is still inaccurate?)

[Carmody]

It's a big cudgel. There's room for two. (this is Carmody's very dark humour at work)

My only comment on this whole thing, so far, is that in the first interview.... I saw behavioral patterns from Bill toward David that instantly had me considering that, potentially... David was the intended target in an integrity and believability takedown, via connection and implication.

What I was really seeing, I've no idea, but that was my near instant response on internal rumination of the rapport style, connection, and direction.

After all, all it takes is someone dressed as a hooker to walk by respected star (famous person), grab them, fake a kiss, have the photo taken and instant tarnish -which is spread around. Better yet, put a body in their house. It only matters for the newspapers, right?

In cases like this, a more intricate plan is required with longer lead in and longer set-up.

The audience is more aware, so the attempts must be more integrated, deeper, and more blended into the subjects at hand. the cons are more involved so they require a certain amount of ad lib capacity.

My personal desire in such situations is to let them go on for as long as possible and supply nothing in the form of data which can be repackaged and sent back. For if one fills in the blanks for someone, then one can have issues of discernment as to origins and who said what, when.

It can easily slip into being aided programing of the self through neuro-linguistic methodologies.

Thus, NEVER take your eyes off the ball and never allow connection to data that you do not fully invest yourself in.

I'm quite aware of such things as I spend lots of time seeding ideas (thoughts, openings, considerations..NOT conclusions--make your own) in people, regarding er..all kinds of subjects. Thus I'm hyper aware of what I have said, what I have not, and when and if any of it has ever been sent back to me.

When I saw Bill speaking with David in the first interview, all my alarm bells went off.

I do not know who or what Bill is, but that connection and specific integration with David was not coming off as seeming.... correct. The connectivity felt forced and contrived, in a way that was seemingly not, er, behaviorally genuine.

[gooty64]

Maybe change it to "a recent guest and friend"? or someome?




More than a rant, this is a warning from Kerry (and I truly do NOT see it as fear mongering to yell "TRAIN!" when there's a train coming at us.) She's angry that the disinfo is getting through to people, making people believe that the battle is over - before the battle has begun. This is an important wake-up call from Kerry. Don't get lost in the emotion, the sawtooth frequency, or the orange aura of the message or messenger - go to the (skull and) bones.
Well said. Thanks.

(Perhaps my changed title is still inaccurate?)

[ThePythonicCow]

... but how about instead of spreading fear and further dis-empowering people, she should be spreading SOLUTIONS and EMPOWERMENT and encouraging people to step into their power, stop fearing the 'dark side' and come out of the defeatist mindset ...
You would dissuade others from seeing what is, if what is has a dark and dangerous side, on the grounds that we "should" just see goodness.

I would suggest that dissuading others from seeing what is ... dis-empowers them :).

[CdnSirian]

Sorry, but I'm confused!

[NternalArchitect]

Going away and thinking about it further.. yeah, there are too many connections for her to not realize how others will take it. With his newest update talking about ET/angelic humans helping.. guns jamming on several occasions, and how the rules have changed. No problem, Gooty.

I am all for what Kerry does and know that every piece is important. She's devoted much of her focus to collecting and spreading whistleblower information and gaining contacts, and IMO has done a great service. The only thing that gets me... listening to her interviews, and seeing how she conducts herself, is the energy in which she does it. She's who she is; I understand that. It's the energy she perpetuates that makes me feel the disharmony inside myself that she must be feeling! Why spread that.. why introduce that vibration into other's reality. It's her blog though. I'm just speaking my point of view.

Inside it's like nails on a chalkboard lol. So yes, I see both sides of the issue, but I just wanted to point out the connection that I picked up on, her directing that to David. It's been pretty clear to me how she reacts to DW, especially in the second Bill Wood interview, so I put the dots together. And also express myself by stating how my body rejects her behavior and energy.

[Dennis Leahy]

...(Perhaps my changed title is still inaccurate?)Yes, I think yet another title change is in order.

Hey, NternalArchitect, what do you want the title to be? What do you think of "Kerry's warning: Disinfo to Wilcock and Brockbrader - false security"

Dennis

{edit} hahahahaha I'm a slow typist!

[ThePythonicCow]

(Perhaps my changed title is still inaccurate?)
Aha - should have done this earlier - let Kerry determine the title. She chose not to name names, but to speak to "Light Workers who serve the dark "

I have changed this thread title again (sorry). The thread title is now "Kerry's public message to Light Workers who serve the dark".

[NternalArchitect]

I believe that fits the bill! haha X)

edit: lol Nevermind. It's all good.

[Cilka]

Going away and thinking about it further.. yeah, there are too many connections for her to not realize how others will take it. With his newest update talking about ET/angelic humans helping.. guns jamming on several occasions, and how the rules have changed. No problem, Gooty.

I am all for what Kerry does and know that every piece is important. She's devoted much of her focus to collecting and spreading whistleblower information and gaining contacts, and IMO has done a great service. The only thing that gets me... listening to her interviews, and seeing how she conducts herself, is the energy in which she does it. She's who she is; I understand that. It's the energy she perpetuates that makes me feel the disharmony inside myself that she must be feeling! Why spread that.. why introduce that vibration into other's reality. It's her blog though. I'm just speaking my point of view.

Inside it's like nails on a chalkboard lol. So yes, I see both sides of the issue, but I just wanted to point out the connection that I picked up on, her directing that to David. It's been pretty clear to me how she reacts to DW, especially in the second Bill Wood interview, so I put the dots together. And also express myself by stating how my body rejects her behavior and energy.

Why dont you Nternal Architect start a radio show or something, and you can show us how interviews should be done. Maybe there is a clone somewhere that can show the world how every interview should be conducted in the whole galaxy.

[schneider]

to be quite honest, i am and have been a supporter of project camelot for quite some time now. however, as of late, i find myself highly agitated by her interviewing style. she is very rough and has lots of sharp edges to jab people with. that is her style and lots of people like that method (kind of like being tumbled in a hot dryer.) i don't think that style is appropriate all the time, nor do i think she gets the best information out of her guests that way. in the blog , she is referring to bill wood mostly, but i feel some of the rant is also directed at david wilcock. bill and david are good friends now. i hope all the in fighting can end because the true winners of all this sqabbling are the powers that be.

[DreamsInDigital]

... but how about instead of spreading fear and further dis-empowering people, she should be spreading SOLUTIONS and EMPOWERMENT and encouraging people to step into their power, stop fearing the 'dark side' and come out of the defeatist mindset ...
You would dissuade others from seeing what is, if what is has a dark and dangerous side, on the grounds that we "should" just see goodness.

I would suggest that dissuading others from seeing what is ... dis-empowers them :).
That's not what I said...not in anyway. Am I speaking a different language or something? I seriously am not understanding why people are consistently misinterpreting what I am saying, when as far as I can see it. I'm being very direct and clear on what I say and what I mean.

[Carmody]

David should consider being careful who he hitches his wagon to or allows to hitch to his.

His recent book is far too important to allow for such frivolous behavior.

[DreamsInDigital]

I thought we discovered it wasn't ABOUT David Wilcock.

[Carmody]

I don't think that the quality of Camelot or Avalon has gone down.

I think that the disinfo campaign has stepped up and that whistleblowers are, shall we politely say , heavily discouraged from going this route. (regarding walking toward Camelot or Avalon for disclosure)

[gooty64]

BRILLIANT, Paul!



(Perhaps my changed title is still inaccurate?)
Aha - should have done this earlier - let Kerry determine the title. She chose not to name names, but to speak to "Light Workers who serve the dark "

I have changed this thread title again (sorry). The thread title is now "Kerry's public message to Light Workers who serve the dark".

[aranuk]

May want to change the title. That rant ain't aimed at David Wilcock - it's aimed at Bill Brockbrader. Or more specifically, Brockbrader's controllers.

She's pissed off at the Master Mechanics that disassembled and reassembled Bill Brockbrader's mind - for their own use (as a disinfo broadcast agent.)

I'm with Kerry on this. I hear no fat lady singing - or even warming up. The Dark Cabal/Godzilla/Global Rulers were a nearly unbeatable hydra 100 years ago - and that was before they gained control of "the most powerful nation on Earth" and created the high-tech divisions of black-ops and intelligence that they now have.

Kerry may want to change the word "anecdote" to "antidote", but her meaning comes through clearly. Don't start making guacamole for the "End Of The Cabal" party just yet - it will turn black before you can eat it.

We have a LOT of work to do, and we had better be vigilant and brilliant - or very very very very very lucky.

Dennis

{edit} I re-read it, and the end is about Brockbrader, but the beginning does engulf anyone and everyone who has comfortably relied on and re-broadcast some unsubstantiated info that Kerry believes is disinfo (case in point: underground bases being wiped out. - I also believe this is disinfo) So, that at least loosely snares David Wilcock and Ben Fulford, among others.

In the chain of sources, going backwards, it could be several levels back where disinfo is injected into the stream. Thus, the person who delivered the info (that I believe to be disinfo) about underground bases being destroyed may have typically been a good, honest, reliable source. Who better to "poison" with disinfo?

More than a rant, this is a warning from Kerry (and I truly do NOT see it as fear mongering to yell "TRAIN!" when there's a train coming at us.) She's angry that the disinfo is getting through to people, making people believe that the battle is over - before the battle has begun. This is an important wake-up call from Kerry. Don't get lost in the emotion, the sawtooth frequency, or the orange aura of the message or messenger - go to the (skull and) bones.

Absolutely Dennis I couldn't agree more. You took the words right out of my mouth.

Stan

[onawah]

David Wilcock was the one who, along with Ben Fulford, gave the story out about the disabled DUMBs, one of the things that Kerry was concerned is causing people to relax when they should be more awake to what is going on.
I don't remember if Bill Wood said anything about that story or not.
But Kerry is right about that story, I think.
There has never been any conclusive followup to that story about the DUMBs, and it seems it would have been fairly simple to prove.
In fact, DW said that he was going to post proof in a part 3 to the 2 other articles he posted on his site about the DUMBs, but he never did.
And as far as I know, he never explained why he didn't follow through with that.

[jcocks]

I agree with Kerry. Our number one enemy is disinformation, complacency comes a close second.

We can't afford to become complacent as the fight isn't won yet. We are close though, I feel... Maybe next year it might become more apparent whether or not we can relax a little.....

[Mozart]

David should consider being careful who he hitches his wagon to or allows to hitch to his.

His recent book is far too important to allow for such frivolous behavior.

Hi Carmody ~

David definitely is very careful as to whom he can trust for a vetted source, and as time goes along, he gets more and more careful of whom he trusts because the more visible and public that he gets, the more disinformants that he "attracts" ... or more accurately put this way: that are SENT to him.

So he's extremely careful in this regard, big-time. We've personally talked about this and he has several ways of vetting his sources by employing most of his multiple-step ways of vetting.

[Ria]

With regard to underground bases having been blown up, as we can not see the results it is tricky to pass comment, also the vast amount of tunnel system, even with a few blown areas still leaves a hell of a lot to go. Hopefully some other form of neutralizing can be employed, than the blow every thing up sort.
I personally do not know Kerry or David, but the personal attacks are uncalled for, and cowardly as you are not on the front line. The info is the only relevant part, to be discussed not trying to find fault and the on going put downs into style of delivery and so on. For those sitting there, go out and do a better JOB if you can.

[aranuk]

Has Bill Wood ever spoken about underground bases being blown up? Who has? Romantic sense of self? Just wanting to research? 'see false signs everywhere substantiating their false sense of winning.' Crowds and masses following them? Sounds a lot like David to me. Then referring to bill wood later separately, as though she weren't already speaking about him. It seems very likely to me that it was Wilcock.

I think Kerry was referring to David Wilcock in the first place, just like you NA, then later about Bill Brockbader.
I can understand how she must feel.

Stan

[Calz]

David should consider being careful who he hitches his wagon to or allows to hitch to his.

His recent book is far too important to allow for such frivolous behavior.

Hi Carmody ~

David definitely is very careful as to whom he can trust for a vetted source, and as time goes along, he gets more and more careful of whom he trusts because the more visible and public that he gets, the more disinformants that he "attracts" ... or more accurately put this way: that are SENT to him.

So he's extremely careful in this regard, big-time. We've personally talked about this and he has several ways of vetting his sources by employing most of his multiple-step ways of vetting.

Thank you for your input into this thread Mozart.

Very helpful to hear from others who are closer to the situation than merely reading off someone's blog :thumb:

[Hervé]

A reminder from the way-back-when-time-machine form our own Bill:


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I'd not have written what Duncan wrote using quite the same words. :)

But I fully understand where he's coming from, and I fully support him and his courage. He's calling out BS where he sees it.

For many years I, too, chose not say a word against any of my colleagues who I felt were wrong or mistaken. But times are changing: there's been so much nonsense and deception in the latter half of this year, particularly about Elenin et al, that it's no longer okay for people to be misinformed and to sit back and just watch it all play out. We have to take stands sometimes. Way too much is now at stake.

I too would not have Sean David Morton anywhere near any conference which I was hosting; he has no idea how to conduct himself in public any more. I think something went very wrong with Richard Hoagland's judgment this year; and much as I like and respect David Wilcock as a friend, I have problems with some of his material and the style in which he presents it.

Time will tell whether he and Ben Fulford are correct about a number of recent extreme claims: I think they are both mistaken -- let us simply say. David and I disagree strongly about the pedigree of at least one source who reports to him (who is known to myself also: he is an admitted agent and proven liar), and -- as we Englishman say: this is a cricketing analogy -- David may be on a stickier wicket than he believes. If I prove to be wrong, and a number of underground bases really have been destroyed, I will be the first to admit it. But in the meantime, none of this correlates with any information which I understand to be true.

Back to Duncan: what he did not state in his blog is that he also had an attempt on his life the other day, and is under quite some pressure. He and Miranda have been under regular, continual, electronic and psychic attack. Kerry and I received a couple of messages from them both the other day asking us to confirm that we stood with them. We do.

[gripreaper]

""Don't start making guacamole for the "End Of The Cabal" party just yet - it will turn black before you can eat it.""

Just got back from the kitchen from making a bowl of guacamole. I think I'll dip it in some chips and eat it now and just enjoy the rest of the evening. Love guacamole.

[eileenrose]

re: Kerry
I got the feeling reading this thread that readers hoped Kerry had evolved (further than themselves).
I still get ticked off, once in a while, myself. Since humans still get ticked off,...Kerry was just following her pattern, like anyone else.

re: Bill
I don't know how I would have handled a character like Bill Wood.
I outed him (in my way) the very first minute he appeared on the scene (though no one understood why). I just had a gut instinct.
Same thing happen with Charles.

Right now she is cleaning up shop.
Good!

[christian]

Who is to say, that none of the DUMBs were destroyed in "earthquakes"?

The whole 2012 timeline convergence paradox still sticks out, it's not only Brockbrader who testified about it, there's Dan Burish and Terence McKenna's "Timewave Zero" for example. I don't know, what happens then, but I surely do believe, that I have a responsibility every right now and that the time is ripe for some major changes worldwide.

[DNA]

Kerry's statement is excellent. This is exactly what I saw in Bill Wood as well. The dude was just so full of himself in the second interview, he cracked me the hell up. If he wasn't repeating himself from the first interview he was stating things those of us who have been around the block have heard a hundred times.

He reminded me of the SouthPark episode where everyone loves the smell of their own farts. Smelling the full bodied aroma of his BS as it was served in a snifter glasss. Good stuff.

[modwiz]

Thankfully, Kerry comes with a thick skin. The giant sucking sound and unfilled informational vacuum that would result if she decided to just let the critics get to her and pack it in would be huge. I am not the biggest fan of her home cooking, but her meals are free and frequent and it would be highly ungracious of me to not appreciate her tireless efforts. Others can form their own opinions about what she brings to us. Only well fed, maybe overfed, people complain about what is for dinner. Abundance is one of the more misunderstood concepts of all and it is only tangentially related to money. Counting ones blessings is always a good practice because we are all far more blessed than we usually allow ourselves to perceive. A half empty glass is half full.

Good going Kerry, may your audio karma be satisfied one day and may the Light keep you safe. Thanks for the meals.

[kiwi]

Personally I have been done with Kerry for a while now. I don't like how she thinks she knows more than everyone else. Her opinion is her opinion, not a fact.

This blog was a blog to bash Bill Wood after he did an interview revealing the supposed real reason why their last interview went so bad. And it was because of Kerry according to him (watch the interview he did explaining it). She is clearly angry and wanted to retaliate on his claims.

It makes no sense how someone would do three interviews in a row with someone, then bash every single thing they said later on. If you didn't believe him, why would you interview him 3 times?? Wouldn't you end it after interview number one that went on for 3 hours??

I am sick of the mixed messages and contradictions.

Edit- I'd also like to add that Bill wasn't suggesting to sit back and have a cup of tea because it's all over. He was saying the same thing that countless other people have said. That your mind controls and creates your world. That all the work you need to do comes from changing yourself from within, rather than looking all around you to try and find the answers. He says DON'T FEAR ANYTHING. Which is the best advice anyone could give since we all know the (bad guys) FEED OFF OF FEAR AND NEGATIVITY!! So anytime I see people screaming "doom is ahead! doom is ahead!" I cannot help but feel suspicious of their motives.

[eileenrose]

I don't recall anyone else doing as much lately as Kerry (interviews only). Has Bill retired from this game?

[kiwi]

I don't recall anyone else doing as much lately as Kerry (interviews only). Has Bill retired from this game?


David Icke has been pretty consistent with his interviews. I enjoy and agree with nearly everything he has put out there

[eileenrose]

I must have missed that (David Icke doing whistleblower interviews). Or did you mean something else Kiwi?

[Calz]

I must have missed that (David Icke doing whistleblower interviews). Or did you mean something else Kiwi?

Mostly his own take on things.

He did do the Arizona Wilder (alleged mind control sex slave) interview ... but that is fairly rare for him.

Credo Mutwa also comes to mind.

[kiwi]

I must have missed that (David Icke doing whistleblower interviews). Or did you mean something else Kiwi?

Are you meaning only interviews done on Camelot/Avalon?? He has been interviewed by Kerry and Bill in the past, but not recently. All I meant was David has done loads of interviews and keeps putting them out one after another. I know a lot of people go into hiding for a long time and re appear every so often, but he is someone who is out there all the time doing new stuff. Thats all.

[eileenrose]

Hi Kiwi,
Yes, I was just referring to people to do interviews (not give them).

On Icke:
Yes David is out there (sometimes though......well, beggars can't be choosers....that is my motto when it comes to people who put out Reptilian information....as we don't know if it is true or sort of true or little bit of truth....but I do like the books (lots of interesting research he has done)).

What is out there:
Personally, I havn't seen any (and I did look). There are negatively charge entities. That I will admit to. Other than that.....I got nothing.

On aliens, in general (re: Icke):
And I will admit that there is a alien presence. But got me who they are or if it matters.

And yes, I did meet people on my path who said they saw aliens, were abducted and so on. Still researching that myself. Got me what they experienced....though I do have the feeling (by using discernment and reading his books) that Whitley Streiber experiences arn't clear (not even to himself)...another topic indeed. I find it easier to work on one issue at a time.

[Debra]

Wholeheartedly agree, that is my sense too Carmody. If any of you out there have received this amount of pain around an event to do with disclosure, you would understand. It is a freaking nightmare to deal with. It triggers off the ugly best of human duality - everyone rushing to defense and quick to attack. When these powers creep in like Lord Voldemort´s
snake, all hell, confusion and anger turns loose. And if you are constantly putting yourself onto the front line - as Kerry does time and time again bless her - the battering nearly kills you.

I think Kerry is crying out for help, and sure, her personal style can annoy you but the woman deserves more from us right now. After all, she provides a great deal of content for people on this forum to think about. That is what she is born to do, even when we don´t like it. Right now, her energy is frazzled - witness the last interview with Kettler - and although the ocean divides us, I am going to offer to make her a cup of tea so she can put her feet up a bit.

To all comments made on here, to the commentators: this is your right because Avalon has given you a public platform to be on air with your thoughts. Just as Kerry has the right to her air time. And she puts her own name and face to everything she says. Her level of transparency is to be commended.

Stay aware of your own stuff. I would say the same to Kerry as well.






I don't think that the quality of Camelot or Avalon has gone down.

I think that the disinfo campaign has stepped up and that whitleblowers are, shall we politely say , hheavily discouraged from going this route. (regarding walking toward Camelot or Avalon for disclosure)

[eileenrose]

So is this true, anyone?

"I think that the disinfo campaign has stepped up and that whitleblowers are, shall we politely say , hheavily discouraged from going this route. (regarding walking toward Camelot or Avalon for disclosure) ", from Carmody.

[ViralSpiral]

So is this true, anyone?

"I think that the disinfo campaign has stepped up and that whitleblowers are, shall we politely say , hheavily discouraged from going this route. (regarding walking toward Camelot or Avalon for disclosure) ", from Carmody.

What's true for you?

[Black Panther]

I dont mind Kerry venting, its healthy, no opinion either way, what I am over is the believe that most ppl believe everything they read is truth, if thats the case - this type of blog doesnt help anyone or cure the culable....if you take what you want, then no big deal....Kerry is welcome to her path and what information she investigates, they are others who focus on empowerment and solutions and between us all, we still dont have all the information, thats the bottom line here....we could spend the next 40,000 years on cabals, enlightenment, ascension, channeling, up and down, in and out and it will still be a mystery....we are here to remember who we are, not what others are doing....but hey, we would rather focus on anything but ourselves...me thinks anyway!!

Yes, remembering who we are. So much information too keep our minds occupied.
We will never find all the answers out there. The answers are already inside us, right now!

It's indeed easier to judge others than to look inside and work on ourselves.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Thankfully, Kerry comes with a thick skin. The giant sucking sound and unfilled informational vacuum that would result if she decided to just let the critics get to her and pack it in would be huge. I am not the biggest fan of her home cooking, but her meals are free and frequent and it would be highly ungracious of me to not appreciate her tireless efforts. Others can form their own opinions about what she brings to us. Only well fed, maybe overfed, people complain about what is for dinner. Abundance is one of the more misunderstood concepts of all and it is only tangentially related to money. Counting ones blessings is always a good practice because we are all far more blessed than we usually allow ourselves to perceive. A half empty glass is half full.

Good going Kerry, may your audio karma be satisfied one day and may the Light keep you safe. Thanks for the meals.

Hear ye Hear ye,

exactly, no matter the style Kerry uses, she has put more work into the wb business then any of us here.

I dont always like her style, but then again she IS doing the interviews and brings forth information, interpretations are always up to ourselves.

If what she does floats your boat, row it, if it sinks it, take the next one, maybe it will do better.

And so what if she gets pissed off once in a while, who doesnt ?? She is a human being like the rest of us, if you dont like what she does and how she does it, go do it yourself, present it and let yourself be judged, see how you like it.

"The giant sucking sound and unfilled informational vacuum that would result if she decided to just let the critics get to her and pack it in would be huge. "

The above sentence (quote MOD) is both hillarious and very very true.

[Jenci]

I think Kerry is crying out for help, and sure, her personal style can annoy you but the woman deserves more from us right now. After all, she provides a great deal of content for people on this forum to think about. That is what she is born to do, even when we don´t like it. Right now, her energy is frazzled - witness the last interview with Kettler - and although the ocean divides us, I am going to offer to make her a cup of tea so she can put her feet up a bit.

The last few interviews I have seen of Kerry's I got the impression she would rather not being doing them and now I read this information she has posted on her blog and she is questioning the claims and methods of people she has been supportive of. The last video (2nd interview with Kettler) has now been removed and only the audio has been posted up on Youtube. Kerry is claiming she was sick during the interview.

Is she crying out for help? Maybe she is.

Has she been put in a position where she has to do things she is not interested in doing? Sometimes I wonder...

Jeanette

[gigha]

I do believe that you are a Mod on 2012
i have found that you are very non judgemental
However given that position that you are in
it does put up question marks about posting here
where Kerry is conserned
Celine & Richard
I thought i should change what i said but realized that i would just be kidding myself if i did.
Peace and love.



I think Kerry is crying out for help, and sure, her personal style can annoy you but the woman deserves more from us right now. After all, she provides a great deal of content for people on this forum to think about. That is what she is born to do, even when we don´t like it. Right now, her energy is frazzled - witness the last interview with Kettler - and although the ocean divides us, I am going to offer to make her a cup of tea so she can put her feet up a bit.

The last few interviews I have seen of Kerry's I got the impression she would rather not being doing them and now I read this information she has posted on her blog and she is questioning the claims and methods of people she has been supportive of. The last video (2nd interview with Kettler) has now been removed and only the audio has been posted up on Youtube. Kerry is claiming she was sick during the interview.

Is she crying out for help? Maybe she is.

Has she been put in a position where she has to do things she is not interested in doing? Sometimes I wonder...

Jeanette

[grannyfranny100]

Zebra said, " I think Kerry is crying out for help, and sure, her personal style can annoy you but the woman deserves more from us right now. After all, she provides a great deal of content for people on this forum to think about. That is what she is born to do, even when we don´t like it. Right now, her energy is frazzled - witness the last interview with Kettler - and although the ocean divides us, I am going to offer to make her a cup of tea so she can put her feet up a bit."

Back in my day, I would say Kerry needs a "day of beauty" at Elizabeth Arden. Meaning that she needs to recharge her batteries and deserves some warm, cozy loving, a good cry and a soothing massage. Even soldiers got R&R in Hawaii during WWII. Her plate is too full with all she is trying to do. I hope that those who know her personally can provide a place of safety to regroup her energies for the continuing battle for truth. Trying to guess the names of those who are leaning themselves to disinfo specialists is unimportant. Providing support of her health is important so she doesn't become another disinfo victim is important. Be kind to yourself Kerry.

[Jenci]

I do believe that you are a Mod on 2012
i have found that you are very non judgemental
However given that position that you are in
it does put up question marks about posting here
where Kerry is conserned
Celine & Richard
I thought i should change what i said but realized that i would just be kidding myself if i did.
Peace and love.


I don't have any question marks about posting here.

I have the same right as anyone else posting on this forum to express my opinion.

Anyway this thread is about Kerry and what she has written on her blog.......not about me.

Jeanette

[modwiz]

I do believe that you are a Mod on 2012
i have found that you are very non judgemental
However given that position that you are in
it does put up question marks about posting here
where Kerry is conserned
Celine & Richard
I thought i should change what i said but realized that i would just be kidding myself if i did.
Peace and love.



I think Kerry is crying out for help, and sure, her personal style can annoy you but the woman deserves more from us right now. After all, she provides a great deal of content for people on this forum to think about. That is what she is born to do, even when we don´t like it. Right now, her energy is frazzled - witness the last interview with Kettler - and although the ocean divides us, I am going to offer to make her a cup of tea so she can put her feet up a bit.

The last few interviews I have seen of Kerry's I got the impression she would rather not being doing them and now I read this information she has posted on her blog and she is questioning the claims and methods of people she has been supportive of. The last video (2nd interview with Kettler) has now been removed and only the audio has been posted up on Youtube. Kerry is claiming she was sick during the interview.

Is she crying out for help? Maybe she is.

Has she been put in a position where she has to do things she is not interested in doing? Sometimes I wonder...

Jeanette

I am missing whatever point you are trying to make about Jenci, a member here at Avalon. Although, your point about her being non-judgmental is well made IMO.

[Alie]

Zebra said, " I think Kerry is crying out for help, and sure, her personal style can annoy you but the woman deserves more from us right now. After all, she provides a great deal of content for people on this forum to think about. That is what she is born to do, even when we don´t like it. Right now, her energy is frazzled - witness the last interview with Kettler - and although the ocean divides us, I am going to offer to make her a cup of tea so she can put her feet up a bit."

Back in my day, I would say Kerry needs a "day of beauty" at Elizabeth Arden. Meaning that she needs to recharge her batteries and deserves some warm, cozy loving, a good cry and a soothing massage. Even soldiers got R&R in Hawaii during WWII. Her plate is too full with all she is trying to do. I hope that those who know her personally can provide a place of safety to regroup her energies for the continuing battle for truth. Trying to guess the names of those who are leaning themselves to disinfo specialists is unimportant. Providing support of her health is important so she doesn't become another disinfo victim is important. Be kind to yourself Kerry.

I think Kerry is talking about Gordon Duff of Veteran's Today --- regarding the article he posted the other day.

Re: Kerry --- At this time, we don't have Bill R. around so we're looking at Kerry for "news". She is the messenger and we MUST support her. Like her? Agree with her? That's free choice, but SUPPORT her? We "should", OR we should just pack up and go elsewhere.

What does FREE mean? It's FREE info that we're consuming. What are we giving back to pay for our consumption? (Personally, not much and I need to rethink that).

I think she's tired and when you're tired you need some people around you can trust that won't be in your face.

And her message was for all of us to DISCERN --- when I put food in my mouth lately I'm extremely cautious b/c I don't want it to make me sick. But when I was a kid I ate whatever I wanted. Getting older means I just can't eat what I want, when I want.

I keep saying we need to be wise, we need to grow up, we need to be thankful and DO OUR PART. So everyone, what can we do to make this forum a community with purpose?

[Billy]

Well guys the saying " its never over until its over" is more true in these times we see ourselves living through than ever before. We hear many reports that the battle is over. That the darkness has been defeated. yet still millions of our brothers and sisters all over the world continue to suffer with wars, starvation, lack of clean water, dictators, the list goes on.

So it may be over for a few privilaged people in their dreams, but the majority of humanity will not agree that it is over by a long shot. And it will never be over until it is over. And i am sure we shall all recognize that great day when it eventually arrives. which will not be "soon" or "in the near future" Or in the "coming days" Unitl then as Kerry in all her frustration is still doing, continue to fight the good fight.

Kerry or anyone else that feels frustrated with lies or disinfo. take time out now and then to reflect on the overload of information, whether it be true or disinfo. when one continues to give it all away, you find one day you have nothing more to give, Drained of strength and energy you can find it difficult to carry on, The battle is a spiritual battle, Replenish your energy, Re arm yourself, allow the reservour of love for humanity that has been drained to refill. be well and believe in no one but yourself. There is where the truth abides.

Peace

[jackovesk]

Discernment

Waning Judgement lends wrath to provocation,
Back to work - back to station,
The Mirror - Mirrors when the mind is on vaction,
Sometimes we get lost in ones reflection,
Rising Redemption only widens self-dissection,

Fear Not when Problems Manifest,
Rising tides will always swallow,
Black & White will always wallow,
Light & Dark will always follow,

Truth is Truth is thines best defense,
Just look whats happened with Makow & Rense,

He/She who's right is not the question,
Temperance of Truth is the answer,
Shout not in thines defence,
Get it right 1st no need for recision,
Get it right 1st No Indecision,

The Watcher/Listener will always Judge,
Mountains of Deception - Bad Reception,
When Truth is Truth,
No need to Budge,

When Truth is the Master you won't get burnt,
Take time-out for Lessons Learnt,
Scarcity of Truth gets one in a Flurry,
When you Know what's Truth,
No need to Worry...:)


WHEN PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE WINNING THEY RELAX...:clap2:

I like this one even more...:yes4:


STAY HUNGRY... STAY VIGILANT... STAY SKEPTICAL...AND ON GUARD. BE RELAXED IN BATTLE BUT KNOW THE BATTLE GOES ON UNTIL THE OTHER SIDE(S) CALL FOR MERCY OR GET UP AND F---KING LEAVE. RETREAT. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

I like most here will (NEVER) give up and our numbers are (GROWING) by the second..!

[Black Panther]

... but how about instead of spreading fear and further dis-empowering people, she should be spreading SOLUTIONS and EMPOWERMENT and encouraging people to step into their power, stop fearing the 'dark side' and come out of the defeatist mindset ...
You would dissuade others from seeing what is, if what is has a dark and dangerous side, on the grounds that we "should" just see goodness.

I would suggest that dissuading others from seeing what is ... dis-empowers them :).
That's not what I said...not in anyway. Am I speaking a different language or something? I seriously am not understanding why people are consistently misinterpreting what I am saying, when as far as I can see it. I'm being very direct and clear on what I say and what I mean.

@Paul: Signature of DID:

"Ignoring the evidence is simply another way of ignoring the truth."
"Reality is always hard to accept whenever it is unpleasant. Our minds play tricks and tell us it just cannot be. Instead of accepting the truth as it is when it disturbs us, we try to deny its existence."

[ThePythonicCow]

@Paul: Signature of DID:
:) .

[jackovesk]

Randy Maugans weighs in on the debate...

Kerry Continues the Mind Control Loop

Tuesday, February 28, 2012 at 12:31AM

She was warned, she was rebuked...she will not go down easily: In another broadside screed of half-hidden sanctimonious bull****, Kerry Cassidy climbed the pulpit once more and doused the net with here ongoing MIND CONTROL MEME:


"This is perfect if you look at what happened with a recent interviewee... he was involved in a legitimate ACT OF VALOR.. then they brought him in and mind controlled him silly until he was ready then they RELEASED HIM.

He went out like a Manchurian Candidate until the time was right to join the new age thang....And when in my interview we got to the end... he delivered his real message... backed up by legit facts and real suffering..." -Kerry Cassidy/ Project Camelot Productions (Credit as per Kerry's request, emphasis added)

OK---we have talked about this before. First, without going into WHOM she is talking about, or WHAT "they" were talking about...how is it when things go bad in Camelot that Kerry plays the only card she has left: PLANT THE MIND CONTROL MEME. Does she offer proof?...does she back any of this "MC" vibe with substance? OR---is it that this is just Kerry working the last bit of credibility she has to defend poor choices and bad witnesses?

Understand that Kerry makes poor choices...Kerry blames others, and places herself in sole accusation---or vindication--- of anyone she chooses, based her perceptions, without facts or back-up. Her present line-up includes some notorious frauds and fear-mongers...look, no one in this camp supports the idea that the battle is WON...it ain't even begun, yet. But it seems like battle fatigue has already set in at Camelot.

All the hard work...years of really decent reporting...all dumped into the toilet because Ms. "Intuition" can't find people with integrity, or when she does, she BURNS them. And now she trots out this tired-ass, tarnished plant, Stew Web---a certified nut case and disinfo stooge...and Jim Fetzer? Mr. Clueless Disinfo on 911...really? Not just retreads...but flat retreads...sad. And about those "white hats"...really? Can you trust Kerry to be the judge of WHOM is working for the "Light"?

I will now propose the new, correct term for VICTIMS of mind controL: MIND MANIPULATION. The term "mind control" is now a vibe for MIND MANIPULATION. LOOP...LOOP...

http://www.offplanetradio.com/

PS - IMHO he's touched on a few valid points here...:yes4:

[zebowho]

I do believe that you are a Mod on 2012
i have found that you are very non judgemental
However given that position that you are in
it does put up question marks about posting here
where Kerry is conserned
Celine & Richard
I thought i should change what i said but realized that i would just be kidding myself if i did.
Peace and love.



I think Kerry is crying out for help, and sure, her personal style can annoy you but the woman deserves more from us right now. After all, she provides a great deal of content for people on this forum to think about. That is what she is born to do, even when we don´t like it. Right now, her energy is frazzled - witness the last interview with Kettler - and although the ocean divides us, I am going to offer to make her a cup of tea so she can put her feet up a bit.

The last few interviews I have seen of Kerry's I got the impression she would rather not being doing them and now I read this information she has posted on her blog and she is questioning the claims and methods of people she has been supportive of. The last video (2nd interview with Kettler) has now been removed and only the audio has been posted up on Youtube. Kerry is claiming she was sick during the interview.

Is she crying out for help? Maybe she is.

Has she been put in a position where she has to do things she is not interested in doing? Sometimes I wonder...

Jeanette

I am missing whatever point you are trying to make about Jenci, a member here at Avalon. Although, your point about her being non-judgmental is well made IMO.

I'll second this one Modwiz! A complete non-starter gigha, the rabbit in this hat never existed! ;)

-z

[lightseeker]

I wondered how long it would take until this thread would pop up. I have great respect for Kerry Cassidy, I find her to be very grounded. I happen to agree with her comments regarding Bill Brockbrader, and others who are possibly being led astry or used by the dark side. Kerry provided us with a wake up call, you can chose to accept it that way or not. I have always liked her strait forward approach but I admit I have not always agreed with her. But I still have learned a great deal from her comments on a variety of subject's that she has addressed. I sometimes feel that their are two many people who are dazzled with some of the info. on the net in the "new age" community, including myself. As much as I would like all of us to get together in a coom by ya moment,LOL, I simply do not buy into that kind of thinking. There is a lot of work to do for every being on this planet. And I agree with Kerry it is not time to put down the sword and shield just yet. Let us all keep on working together until we take our last breath, then and only then can we say we have done our best.

[Sidney]

I think many people are missing the point of Kerrys intentions. Her intentions are to educate people for the GOOD. I am glad to see her venting, because too many poeple are "chanting" Love and Light, which is all fine and good, but too much of a good thing is just that, too much of a good thing. Just like (some)of the channeled messages that are so da**sickening sweet, its so fake.

Something is terribly WRONG with people that don't get angry. It's called too much KOOL-AID. (flouride,etc). The populations of the world are so DRUGGED-UP, that no-one feels the pain or anger anymore. That safe little bubble called denial.

Kerry may put out videos of her interviews, that may or may not turn out to be "not exactly who she(or we)thought they were. So what, she doesn't have a magic wand to tell her who is who. The fact is, she is on our side. Before people judge her, they should take a look in the mirror and say, "hey you, what have you done to try to stop the cabal". Her efforts FAR outweigh her faults. While we are sitting here at our computers, Kerry is out there researching,interviewing,filming,editing,learning ,educating, and putting her ass on the line for US. I get so tired of people criticizing her.
Don't shoot the messenger.

And I have to admit, when I read all that stuff about underground bases being blown to smithereens, I thought to myself "hmm, wouldn't thousands of people hear and feel it if something like that really happened?? Get Real.

This is not even about the bases. Its about us. All of us that ARE the good guys. We have to stick together. When I see criticism aimed at Kerry OR Bill R., my first thought is "hm, trolling".

Kerry, YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dennis Leahy]

Randy Maugans weighs in on the debate...

Kerry Continues the Mind Control Loop

Tuesday, February 28, 2012 at 12:31AM

She was warned, she was rebuked...she will not go down easily: In another broadside screed of half-hidden sanctimonious bull****, Kerry Cassidy climbed the pulpit once more and doused the net with here ongoing MIND CONTROL MEME:


"This is perfect if you look at what happened with a recent interviewee... he was involved in a legitimate ACT OF VALOR.. then they brought him in and mind controlled him silly until he was ready then they RELEASED HIM.

He went out like a Manchurian Candidate until the time was right to join the new age thang....And when in my interview we got to the end... he delivered his real message... backed up by legit facts and real suffering..." -Kerry Cassidy/ Project Camelot Productions (Credit as per Kerry's request, emphasis added)OK---we have talked about this before. First, without going into WHOM she is talking about, or WHAT "they" were talking about...how is it when things go bad in Camelot that Kerry plays the only card she has left: PLANT THE MIND CONTROL MEME. Does she offer proof?...does she back any of this "MC" vibe with substance? OR---is it that this is just Kerry working the last bit of credibility she has to defend poor choices and bad witnesses?



This seems like semantics to me. What word phrase most quickly conjures up the act of deliberately implanting false ideas into someone elses head? The phrase "mind control" might seem like overkill, if you're thinking of complete, total, 7/24/365 control, but it is a phrase most people can quickly and easily identify. I like "mind manipulated" better than "mind controlled", but in a way, it sort of softens the legitimate warning - because we humans are ALL at least somewhat mind manipulated, right?

You meet someone who seems very sincere, and who believes what they are saying, and they are literally saying that messages are being telepathed into their brain. Further, upon examination and dissection of the "information" the person is delivering - "information" that they admit was telepathically received - the "information" screams of disinformation:



ETs working with Mexican or Central American drug lords destroying missiles that were to be used against the drug lords.
Venezuelan, Iranian, and North Korean forces (the three most obvious countries that would be declared as bad guys by neocon and neoliberal black-hats) working together, arming nuclear? dirty? bio? warheads.

If you (the interviewer) believe that your subject is sincere (believes himself), and not just a liar... then who put those messages into the subject's head? For what reason? Wouldn't we all say the subject is spewing disinformation that was implanted by mind control?

What would be proof of mind control? Would the black-ops group have to come forward, admit it, and explain the technology used? Isn't this a "walks like a duck, talks like a duck..." kind of thing? I'll go way out on a limb here (not really) and declare that Brockbrader is either a liar or is mind controlled. Line me up against the same wall as Kerry.

If everyone just steps back, breathes a few big deep breaths, and tries to figure out just exactly WHY Brockbrader was inserted* onto the scene, and why Brockbrader delivered the two powerful memes:
1.) He knew for a fact that humanity was on the timeline to successfully defeat the Global Rulers/Dark Cabal. Done deal. Break out the champagne.
2.) The current bad guys keeping the ETs busy saving humanity are not in the Pentagon, White House, 10 Downing, Federal Reserve, corporate boardrooms - they are the governments of Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea.

If that isn't disinformation, I don't know what is.

If that isn't mind control (assuming Brockbrader in not just lying), then I don't know what is.

Again, if Kerry does NOT scream "BULLSH!T !" and allows these memes to seep into the alt community unchallenged, she has done a grave disservice. So, she shouldn't have interviewed Brockbrader in the first place? Of course - that's 20/20 hindsight. The final interview drew clear lines around any fuzzy edges left in the previous interview. It obviously was even more difficult to conduct the interview than it was for me to sit and listen to it - and believe me, it was difficult for me to listen to it.

I still have no idea whatsoever if any of the "whistleblower" testimony about devices that can allow time travel (especially into the future!) are real. It defies logic, and I won't believe it until I witness it firsthand. However, MANY people in the alt community have accepted that such devices exist. Is there anyone here that caught wind that a whistleblower with some sort of a knowledge of the future declared that we (humanity) had already won? Did you have even a small sigh of relief? Then you need a bucket of cold water dumped on your head! Thank you Kerry, for the bucket of cold water that many of my brothers and sisters needed - so that they would recognize that the Dark Cabal is evidently trying to implant the meme of "just relax, humanity has already won.")

Dennis

*I say "inserted" because I think he was. Kerry didn't go looking under sheets of cardboard beneath a bridge to find Brockbrader - he was sent to find a platform to deliver his message

[DreamsInDigital]

Dennis,

I sent you a PM correcting some of your misunderstandings concerning the Missiles and Venezuela, hopefully after you read my PM you'll be able to correct your post there to prevent further people that read etc from misunderstanding that situation to even greater confusion.

[meat suit]

the good news in all of this is, that the imbalances that are surfacing, are calling all of us here to be vigilant in our examinations.
Kerry s style is somewhat abrasive, but because of the friction created, it is showing angles that other interviewers dont show.
I feel that for instance that John Kettler stood out as sincere and in the 'know' (1st interview, didnt listen to 2nd) against that 'style', and thats the value of that 'style'

you would expect the 'dark' to send in stooges to confuse the scene.... and they are probably applauding themselves looking at all the resulting finger pointing....

anybody ever seen Louis Theroux interview/films? there is a totally different style to look at.....talking of styles....

[S-L]

I agree with Kerry's central message, though it would have been nice for her to express herself in a less irritating way. That's besides the point, though. The content of her post is more important than how she expressed herself.

[Dennis Leahy]

Dennis,

I sent you a PM correcting some of your misunderstandings concerning the Missiles and Venezuela, hopefully after you read my PM you'll be able to correct your post there to prevent further people that read etc from misunderstanding that situation to even greater confusion.

Hi DreamsInDigital,

OK, you're asking me to "correct" my post. Paraphrasing what you wrote to me (and I'll enclose it in a "quote" box:

1.) Missiles in Venezuela were to be used - by Hugo Chavez - against the USA, not against the drug cartel. But then, Chavez threatened to use them against the drug cartel.

The cartel was already looking for the missiles, and the ETs decided to help the drug cartel find the missiles by giving the drug cartel a map.

2.) ...and Pakistan makes four. Four nations were in on the plan to shoot the missiles at the US - if the US or Israel attack Iran.

I don't believe a word of this. Not one word. Not even if this is the corrected form and my original post was slightly wrong.

I know who the bad guys are on Earth. The US government, the US military, all international bankers, most (if not all) trans-national corporations, and... the nefarious secret societies/black-ops people. When the ETs correctly identify the bad guys, and take away their power, I will believe in ETs intervening. As it is, I only believe in the possibility of ETs watching and never intervening. I am a tough nut to crack. You won't convince me to simply believe anything because someone told you it is true, or even if ETs sat at your breakfast table and told you it is true. I did not meet the ETs, I have no information that would lead me to believe DUMBS were destroyed, that the Dark Cabal is on a certain defeat timeline. Taking a page out of PNAC, describing the bad guys the same way Dick Cheney would, and presenting it as if it is reality blows my mind it is so obviously disinformation.

I'm going to be late for yoga class.

Dennis

[anthony]

Make up your own mind

[10:38:19 AM] Kerry Cassidy: hi Dave what is going on with those guys who are posting liesabout Camelot on your site?[10:39:39 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: are they lies or an alternate view of how your conductingyour interviews? I am still investigating this my self.[10:42:56 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: the "truth" depends on where a person is standing with theirexperience, knowledge and research into their special stand on any given subject.[10:46:06 AM] Kerry Cassidy: I don't see the truth as something that conditional[10:46:22 AM] Kerry Cassidy: I think humans can basically agree on truth in this dimension[10:46:37 AM] Kerry Cassidy: if you choose to include other dimensions that of course altersthings[10:46:43 AM] Kerry Cassidy: truth is not an opinion[10:46:48 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: perhaps you should think about that aspect of the truth as NOONE has all of it.[10:47:12 AM] Kerry Cassidy: since I interview vast numbers of people I of all people know this[10:47:40 AM] Kerry Cassidy: the fact is those guys are making **** up as they go[10:47:47 AM] Kerry Cassidy: and targeting me and Camelot[10:48:01 AM] Kerry Cassidy: you have an issue with me then ask me[10:48:31 AM] Kerry Cassidy: but giving them a platform to b.s. the public and targetingCamelot is not cool[10:51:23 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: my question is this I have listened to your interviews withBill Woods, all 3 of them and listened to the interview he did with Lisa, and then listened to theinterviews I did with him and there is a considerable difference in his comfort level when he ison with me. and have you noticed there is something I practice and that is called "Freedom ofSpeech" on my shows. If you cannot stand criticism then what can else I say. Would you like tobe a guest and present you side of this with out any other one except you and me?[10:52:56 AM] Kerry Cassidy: you are kidding right? you write this to me: ..."have you noticedthere is something I practice and that is called "Freedom of Speech" on my shows"[10:53:00 AM] Kerry Cassidy: who are you kidding?[10:53:17 AM] Kerry Cassidy: Camelot has been putting ourselves and lives on the line to getthe truth out for years[10:53:35
AM] Kerry Cassidy: this is an isult[10:53:42 AM] Kerry Cassidy: insult[10:53:52 AM] Kerry Cassidy: you want a platform to share insults[10:53:53 AM] Kerry Cassidy: ?[10:54:10 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: I am not kidding anyone are you going to accept myinvitation to present your side or not ?[10:54:13 AM] Kerry Cassidy: I don't listen to your shows and I could care less about your egodriven comfort leel[10:54:21 AM] Kerry Cassidy: level or Bill Brockbraders[10:54:34 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: you have a tremendous ego driven by money and your self[10:54:36 AM] Kerry Cassidy: have you noticed there is something I practice and that is called"Freedom of Speech" on my shows[10:54:41 AM] Kerry Cassidy: asking me like this?[10:54:56 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: you have an opportunity to present your truth[10:55:00 AM] Kerry Cassidy: seriously CAN'T YOU SEE THE EGO AND INSULT INTHAT STATEMENT[10:55:36 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: I have no ego when compared to yours and many peoplehave made that same statement to me about you[10:55:51 AM] Kerry Cassidy: that is bull****[10:56:00 AM] Kerry Cassidy: your eog is so evident its ridiculous[10:56:11 AM] Kerry Cassidy: frankly I wouldn't give you the time of day forget it[10:56:34 AM] Kerry Cassidy: this is my FREEDOM OF SPPECH TALKING **** YOU[10:57:48 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: it appears to me that you are entirely ego driven by the wayyou try to lead people during your interviews where as I allow people to talk about what theyCHOOSE to talk about and you are free to castigate me and wolf spirit radio as much as youchoose to and I will not sink to your level by responding !!!![10:58:45 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: you are being sucked into the rabbit hole you have created[10:59:58 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: you accuse others of what you yourself are doing which isSO typical of some one who is being controlled, wither you understand that or not !

[Rantaak]

Make up your own mind


I'm going to format your quote so that it's easier for myself and others to read. I hope this isn't too frivolous.


[10:38:19 AM] Kerry Cassidy: hi Dave what is going on with those guys who are posting liesabout Camelot on your site?
[10:39:39 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: are they lies or an alternate view of how your conductingyour interviews? I am still investigating this my self.
[10:42:56 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: the "truth" depends on where a person is standing with theirexperience, knowledge and research into their special stand on any given subject.
[10:46:06 AM] Kerry Cassidy: I don't see the truth as something that conditional
[10:46:22 AM] Kerry Cassidy: I think humans can basically agree on truth in this dimension
[10:46:37 AM] Kerry Cassidy: if you choose to include other dimensions that of course altersthings
[10:46:43 AM] Kerry Cassidy: truth is not an opinion
[10:46:48 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: perhaps you should think about that aspect of the truth as NOONE has all of it.
[10:47:12 AM] Kerry Cassidy: since I interview vast numbers of people I of all people know this
[10:47:40 AM] Kerry Cassidy: the fact is those guys are making **** up as they go
[10:47:47 AM] Kerry Cassidy: and targeting me and Camelot
[10:48:01 AM] Kerry Cassidy: you have an issue with me then ask me
[10:48:31 AM] Kerry Cassidy: but giving them a platform to b.s. the public and targetingCamelot is not cool
[10:51:23 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: my question is this I have listened to your interviews withBill Woods, all 3 of them and listened to the interview he did with Lisa, and then listened to theinterviews I did with him and there is a considerable difference in his comfort level when he ison with me. and have you noticed there is something I practice and that is called "Freedom ofSpeech" on my shows. If you cannot stand criticism then what can else I say. Would you like tobe a guest and present you side of this with out any other one except you and me?
[10:52:56 AM] Kerry Cassidy: you are kidding right? you write this to me: ..."have you noticedthere is something I practice and that is called "Freedom of Speech" on my shows"
[10:53:00 AM] Kerry Cassidy: who are you kidding?
[10:53:17 AM] Kerry Cassidy: Camelot has been putting ourselves and lives on the line to getthe truth out for years
[10:53:35AM] Kerry Cassidy: this is an isult
[10:53:42 AM] Kerry Cassidy: insult
[10:53:52 AM] Kerry Cassidy: you want a platform to share insults
[10:53:53 AM] Kerry Cassidy: ?
[10:54:10 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: I am not kidding anyone are you going to accept myinvitation to present your side or not ?
[10:54:13 AM] Kerry Cassidy: I don't listen to your shows and I could care less about your egodriven comfort leel
[10:54:21 AM] Kerry Cassidy: level or Bill Brockbraders
[10:54:34 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: you have a tremendous ego driven by money and your self
[10:54:36 AM] Kerry Cassidy: have you noticed there is something I practice and that is called"Freedom of Speech" on my shows
[10:54:41 AM] Kerry Cassidy: asking me like this?
[10:54:56 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: you have an opportunity to present your truth
[10:55:00 AM] Kerry Cassidy: seriously CAN'T YOU SEE THE EGO AND INSULT INTHAT STATEMENT
[10:55:36 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: I have no ego when compared to yours and many peoplehave made that same statement to me about you
[10:55:51 AM] Kerry Cassidy: that is bull****
[10:56:00 AM] Kerry Cassidy: your eog is so evident its ridiculous
[10:56:11 AM] Kerry Cassidy: frankly I wouldn't give you the time of day forget it
[10:56:34 AM] Kerry Cassidy: this is my FREEDOM OF SPPECH TALKING **** YOU
[10:57:48 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: it appears to me that you are entirely ego driven by the wayyou try to lead people during your interviews where as I allow people to talk about what theyCHOOSE to talk about and you are free to castigate me and wolf spirit radio as much as youchoose to and I will not sink to your level by responding !!!!
[10:58:45 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: you are being sucked into the rabbit hole you have created
[10:59:58 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: you accuse others of what you yourself are doing which isSO typical of some one who is being controlled, wither you understand that or not !

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"NO, UR EGO!!!!11!1!"

How do you say that multiple times and not realize the irony?

[Bill Ryan]

Make up your own mind


I'm going to format your quote so that it's easier for myself and others to read. I hope this isn't too frivolous.


[10:38:19 AM] Kerry Cassidy: hi Dave what is going on with those guys who are posting liesabout Camelot on your site?
[10:39:39 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: are they lies or an alternate view of how your conductingyour interviews? I am still investigating this my self.
[10:42:56 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: the "truth" depends on where a person is standing with theirexperience, knowledge and research into their special stand on any given subject.
[10:46:06 AM] Kerry Cassidy: I don't see the truth as something that conditional
[10:46:22 AM] Kerry Cassidy: I think humans can basically agree on truth in this dimension
[10:46:37 AM] Kerry Cassidy: if you choose to include other dimensions that of course altersthings
[10:46:43 AM] Kerry Cassidy: truth is not an opinion
[10:46:48 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: perhaps you should think about that aspect of the truth as NOONE has all of it.
[10:47:12 AM] Kerry Cassidy: since I interview vast numbers of people I of all people know this
[10:47:40 AM] Kerry Cassidy: the fact is those guys are making **** up as they go
[10:47:47 AM] Kerry Cassidy: and targeting me and Camelot
[10:48:01 AM] Kerry Cassidy: you have an issue with me then ask me
[10:48:31 AM] Kerry Cassidy: but giving them a platform to b.s. the public and targetingCamelot is not cool
[10:51:23 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: my question is this I have listened to your interviews withBill Woods, all 3 of them and listened to the interview he did with Lisa, and then listened to theinterviews I did with him and there is a considerable difference in his comfort level when he ison with me. and have you noticed there is something I practice and that is called "Freedom ofSpeech" on my shows. If you cannot stand criticism then what can else I say. Would you like tobe a guest and present you side of this with out any other one except you and me?
[10:52:56 AM] Kerry Cassidy: you are kidding right? you write this to me: ..."have you noticedthere is something I practice and that is called "Freedom of Speech" on my shows"
[10:53:00 AM] Kerry Cassidy: who are you kidding?
[10:53:17 AM] Kerry Cassidy: Camelot has been putting ourselves and lives on the line to getthe truth out for years
[10:53:35AM] Kerry Cassidy: this is an isult
[10:53:42 AM] Kerry Cassidy: insult
[10:53:52 AM] Kerry Cassidy: you want a platform to share insults
[10:53:53 AM] Kerry Cassidy: ?
[10:54:10 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: I am not kidding anyone are you going to accept myinvitation to present your side or not ?
[10:54:13 AM] Kerry Cassidy: I don't listen to your shows and I could care less about your egodriven comfort leel
[10:54:21 AM] Kerry Cassidy: level or Bill Brockbraders
[10:54:34 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: you have a tremendous ego driven by money and your self
[10:54:36 AM] Kerry Cassidy: have you noticed there is something I practice and that is called"Freedom of Speech" on my shows
[10:54:41 AM] Kerry Cassidy: asking me like this?
[10:54:56 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: you have an opportunity to present your truth
[10:55:00 AM] Kerry Cassidy: seriously CAN'T YOU SEE THE EGO AND INSULT INTHAT STATEMENT
[10:55:36 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: I have no ego when compared to yours and many peoplehave made that same statement to me about you
[10:55:51 AM] Kerry Cassidy: that is bull****
[10:56:00 AM] Kerry Cassidy: your eog is so evident its ridiculous
[10:56:11 AM] Kerry Cassidy: frankly I wouldn't give you the time of day forget it
[10:56:34 AM] Kerry Cassidy: this is my FREEDOM OF SPPECH TALKING **** YOU
[10:57:48 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: it appears to me that you are entirely ego driven by the wayyou try to lead people during your interviews where as I allow people to talk about what theyCHOOSE to talk about and you are free to castigate me and wolf spirit radio as much as youchoose to and I will not sink to your level by responding !!!!
[10:58:45 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: you are being sucked into the rabbit hole you have created
[10:59:58 AM] mysticalw0lfman3: you accuse others of what you yourself are doing which isSO typical of some one who is being controlled, wither you understand that or not !

A minute of research on Skype contact clarifies that mysticalw0lfman3 is Camelot witness Dave Corso (close friend of Duncan O'Finioan, who had a major, publicized difference of opinion with Kerry at the end of last year).

I refrain from comment about this Skype exchange, save that it seems clear that Dave C supports Duncan, who was (basically) critical of Kerry for seeming to support David Wilcock so strongly after the "Anonymous Irishman" radio program.

Actually, Mozart -- who I count as a friend -- was incorrect when he said here:


It's not aimed at David Wilcock -- this blog post of Kerry's is aimed at Bill Wood -- and I'm in a position to know this by my constant email contact with both of them.

Kerry's blog piece was definitely aimed at Bill Wood... but was also aimed at David Wilcock, many of whose views, stances, attitudes and positions Kerry has come to disagree with... while continuing to respect him and his substantial body of work.

Personal statement: here I stand with Kerry on her views about the alternative media and the disinformation that is promulgated there so widely. And I also support Duncan O'Finioan. Duncan and Kerry may yet work to find common ground: David Wilcock has done a great job in his Financial Tyranny releases... but he's certainly wrong about the fiction that underground bases have been destroyed by helpful, benevolent ETs.

My overall stance is that there is no easy way out, yet: and I no longer believe that Bill Wood's testimony can be trusted.

[anthony]

Bill i greatly appreciate the work that both avalon and camelot have done in recent years.
Tonight i was reading the opening chapters in Bruce Liptons 'spontaneous evolution' and this paragraph caught my attention.
'We build our lives on the foundation of our stories. And the more we invest in a story, the more important it becomes to continue investing in that story, even after its clear the story no longer works'.
The paradigm shift is well under way imo. and it does feel that some folks are clinging onto the old.
Please take this as just an opinion. by no means have i the experience of yourself or kerry.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

I, too, had bells go off when I heard Bill W's and David W's interaction which seemed very immature to me. But then, I've always considered DW emotionally immature, although he has attempted to reign in his overstated ego more recently, he still has a long way to go. I will give him that he is a very good chronicler, however, the way he whips up emotion (or tries to) in others is a negative for me.

As for Kerry, I feel she brings us great information. I suggest that we not let her message be lost in our opinions of her personally. I must agree that it is very important to stay cautious and not be fooled by the over-optimism of others any more than the fear of others. Look for factual evidence. Many coaches have experienced what can happen when a team thinks they have won a game!

[000]

[Kerry/Dave chat]

"NO, UR EGO!!!!11!1!"

How do you say that multiple times and not realize the irony?

*Giggle* No kidding...

I've been watching individuals in the alternative community being peeled off of the grander Truth like paint peeling off of metal in the sun. This is the local Universe doing a fine job of bringing everything out in the wash.

One day someone is right on the mark, another day they are completely off base. All the while most of them are claiming their truth is thee Truth rather than accepting they all hold pieces of a pie and not a whole pie. Only the local Universe knows the taste of the whole pie.

There has been so much jumping the gun and not enough quiet trust in personal trajectories. Most of it leaves me calmly speechless. I'm preferring to step back lately and keep to myself doing what I know I need to do. Actions rather than circular arguments over actions. Some folks just don't know how to handle a data-hurricane with grace...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts&ob=av2e

It shall be alright in the end. No matter who is 'right' or 'wrong', everyone will know what has been going on as it all unravels like pulling a thread from a sweater and seeing the entire sweater disintegrate, leaving the former sweater-wearer in the nude.

Time for folks to begin flowing with the flow. Way too much resistance in the waters lately. Things erode faster when they resist the flow.

:washing:

[Lifebringer]

I picked that up also, and while I am not sure, I think it got on Bill's nerve also, and they parted ways for awhile. Maybe it's burnout, and lack of someone who can do tech properly. I think the ptw are using Kerry, and frustrating her by doing the little things, that tick people with high IQ's off.
Kerry got a little heated at one point when questioning, and said she attended a comference or meeting with people who were the "BIG BRAINS guys" and then said she was a high IQ. Anyway, i chalk it up to burnout and stress. I'm going to send her some healing of relaxation, and pray she takes yoga or something up to calm herself in the ensuing days to come.

[etm567]

Personally, i think Kerry got it exactly right. And no, I don't think it was aimed at Wilcock; she could have simply phoned him instead. They are close.

And she has every right to rant once in a while - or often. It's her blog - and her opinion. Do you have a better idea? Why not post it yourself?

Or are we happier trying to stage-manage the behavior of others? In what respect have you earned the right to be her critic? Just asking.

Wasn't it David who said they had blown up the underground bases? That comment seems to me to be aimed straight at Wilcock. Sounds to me like she is talking about both of them.

[DreamsInDigital]

I believe the DUMBS thing started actually with Tolec and his ET/ED's or could have been Tolec and David Wilcock or does it go back further?

AFAIK some actually have been taken out, by the Pentagon as well as the ET/ED's though I'm sure at least one or two have as I've been told about them completely and absolutely independent of anything to do with "this" mess. And, seen confirming data etc.

There are photos and seismic data to back up the ones that Tolec claimed were destroyed by the Procyons including a foreknowledged email sent to Andre Webre.

Also there is this article here:
Tunnels To Atleast 13 Underground Bases Being Sealed Off (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_underground31.htm) Article by PC World News, from Presscore website. This certainly doesn't talk about ET-Involvement, but does point out that some are being sealed off or destroyed.

Btw, independent of that, just so there aren't any more confusions. The Venezuelan Missiles were meant to be fired at US if Israel or US Invaded/fired on Iran. It was an contingency that was paid for by Iran, and facilitated by a combined effort of Pakistan and North Korea. Chavez only do to his ego and Insanity? threatened to use them on the route the drug cartel takes through mexico because he hadn't received his "tribute" payments.

The ET/ED's mentioned in the incident do not in anyway work with nor have they ever worked with the Drug Cartel, they simply provided the map for the Drug Cartel that were already looking for the Missiles in the first place.

It's in the News Media about the treaties etc that have been forged between Iran and Venezuela, It's out there. And Venezuela with those kind of intercontinental missiles that had dirty bomb heads and anthrax war heads posed a serious threat to United States. Especially being egged on by Iran.

Not sure why when this information was repeated several times across two interviews and multiple times on Mr. Kettler's blog that it would be possible for anyone to confuse it. But, hopefully this will straighten out any further confusion concerning the Venezuelan Missile Crisis.

[Cilka]

People, get over it. What is the big deal that Kerry finally shared her feelings with us. Don't tell me that you do not get pis sed once in a while. There is one good thing about being a woman. We are more emotional than men, we are not afraid to show our feelings, and that is definitely a good thing rather than keeping them inside. Men in general do not like to show their true feelings, in most instances even if they are pis sed off they stay calm and look diplomatic, but they also are more likely to blow your brains out or to steal your last dollar if they could, just look at the banking system, it is occupied by mostly men, and what about jails, again mostly occupied by men. Just look at the worldly situation, 95% of wealth is owned by men, most soldiers fighting in wars are males, most murders are committed by men, most if not all serial killers are men, and the list goes on.

It is time for men to finally become more emotional. Men need to share their feelings more with the world and the world will be less violent as a result. And Jesus Christ, leave Kerry alone, it's not that she murdered a bunch of you. You are grown up men and women. If you don't like listening to her interviews then don't listen to them.

Right now I am irritated and I am sharing my mood with you. If you don't like it then don't read my message.

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

HUMANITY GET OFF YOUR KNEES

If humanity is so quick to allow other races of beings to take over, run things and tell them what is and is not true this becomes hugely problematic. Think of it this way... if humanity is made up of a genome of 12 or more stellar ET races then how is it we would be subservient or lesser than to any of those individual races? Ask yourself this.

Understanding what we are 'made of' is key to understanding what our true potential is. Once you realize this then "child is father to the man" becomes much more real. The fact is, that we may end up being THEIR TEACHERS rather than the other way around... Humanity is a genetic experiment.. combining the amazing powers and capacities of multiple races in multiple different strains and degrees within our populations... this is what we are. Given that knowledge our potential is likely even GREATER THAN THE SUM OF OUR PARTS. Our potential is unlimited as a result. As David Icke says "Humanity get off your knees!". Recognize who you are and begin to push the envelope of your potentiality. We are far more than we give ourselves credit for. And multiple off-and on planet races of beings have a vested interest in seeing that we don't learn this key truth.

There is no quarantine on this planet.. that was removed quite some time ago. The fact is we have been invaded six ways to Sunday and continue to be. The question is do you want to give your power over to ET without questioning what their true agenda is? Just because they prance around your skies with the "magic" of high technology? Do you think that SPIRIT bows to technology on any level?? If you do, you are trapped in a 3-D version of a never ending parade of MAYA (illusion). We bow to no one. It's that simple. Are you ready to claim your birthright? Because I can guarantee you that our PROGENITORS... those of the 'service to others variety' want to see this happen. Like proud parents they wait for the day when you get off your knees and recognize who and what you are. It's only UP from there.

*****

HERE HERE!

:wave:

[Guest]

Kerry may be venting and a bit stressed but her message is very clear. She has been doing this a long time and has a lot of information -she knows the ins and outs. Stay vigilant, be aware and wake up. It's not about power -that is ego pure and simple. The GCs dark cabal, dark ones, malevolent ETs and some of the hybrids wont stop. The GCs have been around for millennia..... and know the benevolent Ets will not save us..... they may sometimes interfere or help but they wont save us. We must do the work. Yes the stakes are high..... if you have a Soul and Spirit -very high- and the Earth and all of her creatures are precious beings. Human beings are very powerful and able to create and do some amazing and beautiful works -this is where the GCs have fear.....

She really is calling everybody out..... the truth is the truth and she is right the "create your own reality" is BS. Don't believe the lie or allow tthe GCs to continue to manipulate you, don't run on your emotions and be very discerning as far as information and the informers -it doesn't matter if you are an insider or not. And of course the GCs do not want any informants going on PC or PA.
The exchange with Dave C.... she was calling him out and not letting him in. David Wilcock's book is very good -I'm reading it right now it is well thought out and written very well. I also listened to the interview with David, Kerry and mr. anonymous......hmmm
Kerry is out there doing the work for the people and the earth..... she deserves some respect from the people.

Love

Nora

[kiwi]

She really is calling everybody out..... the truth is the truth and she is right the "create your own reality" is BS. Don't believe the lie or allow tthe GCs to continue to manipulate you, don't run on your emotions and be very discerning as far as information and the informers -it doesn't matter if you are an insider or not.

Actually creating your own reality isn't a lie. I suggest you look up Dr Bruce Lipton, and all of the information out there regarding this topic. There are people who have invested their entire lives researching the powers of the subconscious mind...confirming that we indeed create our reality based on our subconscious thoughts/energy. I have been reading about this subject for years, and Bill Wood is hardly the first person to say this. And saying you control your own reality is in no way manipulation, quite frankly it is the exact opposite. It puts you in control of yourself and your life, rather than in the victim role.

The people in charge have for too long, brainwashed everyone into thinking we are helpless victims to our lives. That things happen to us for no reason, that we don't have control over it and it is BS. They are making people believe this so they feel helpless and afraid. Simply because if people knew they can control what they bring into their lives, 'they' would have no power over us.

[eileenrose]

I suppose this won't matter.

But I did have a vision about the missiles and posted it (so I can link that...if someone 'wants to check it out') on another forum. Never having heard of Kettler before and not seeing it in the news, I jokingly (as I still am bemused I get visions at all...still new to it) called the thread 'why hasn't this appeared in the news'. I then went out on the net and tried to find someone else remote viewing or 'seeing' or having visions about missiles hitting the US and only found one (and I linked her to my thread). So other people did know about these missiles and were concerned. I just don't make a fuss becomes I don't understand why I am receiving the information and why only bits and pieces-so I end up half guessing what I 'saw'. But that probably isn't that important right now.

You don't have to be an E.T. to get news from 'on high' (as it were)........or even Kettler.

I am just stating a fact (for me). Really isn't my place (I don't have clients and I don't have visions often enough for me to pay them much mind...as they usually are just about me) to promote myself. But didn't feel like making Kettler look like an idiot either.....not on purpose anyway....as promoting his views might put me in the same 'lunch box' as him. I havn't a clue who he is myself (so therefore I am not in support and not not in support of his views).

[Delight]

She really is calling everybody out..... the truth is the truth and she is right the "create your own reality" is BS. Don't believe the lie or allow tthe GCs to continue to manipulate you, don't run on your emotions and be very discerning as far as information and the informers -it doesn't matter if you are an insider or not.

Actually creating your own reality isn't a lie. I suggest you look up Dr Bruce Lipton, and all of the information out there regarding this topic. There are people who have invested their entire lives researching the powers of the subconscious mind...confirming that we indeed create our reality based on our subconscious thoughts/energy. I have been reading about this subject for years, and Bill Wood is hardly the first person to say this. And saying you control your own reality is in no way manipulation, quite frankly it is the exact opposite. It puts you in control of yourself and your life, rather than in the victim role.

The people in charge have for too long, brainwashed everyone into thinking we are helpless victims to our lives. That things happen to us for no reason, that we don't have control over it and it is BS. They are making people believe this so they feel helpless and afraid. Simply because if people knew they can control what they bring into their lives, 'they' would have no power over us.

The schism between one who feels confident in one's place in the world as "creator" and the place held by one who is committed to the position of "receiver" is the for me the cleavage point between the "two earths". I do not see how these two poles can merge? This is something I'd really like to discuss. Delight

[RMorgan]

My overall stance is that there is no easy way out, yet: and I no longer believe that Bill Wood's testimony can be trusted.

Hi Bill,

I´m glad to see that reason is finally triumphing here.

Anyway, I can´t understand why you did believe Bill Wood in the first place.

I mean, he is just a man talking about a lot of crazy things without absolutely anything to back it up!

So why did you interviewed him in the first place?

Such things don´t damage Bill Wood´s image only. It damages Camelot´s and the alternative media reputation as a whole.

Camelot needs to be more judicious with it´s "sources".

Cheers,

Raf.

[NeverMind]

My overall stance is that there is no easy way out, yet: and I no longer believe that Bill Wood's testimony can be trusted.

Hi Bill,

I´m glad to see that reason is finally triumphing here.

Anyway, I can´t understand why you did believe Bill Wood in the first place.

I mean, he is just a man talking about a lot of crazy things without absolutely anything to back it up!

So why did you interviewed him in the first place?

Such things don´t damage Bill Wood´s image only. It damages Camelot´s and the alternative media reputation as a whole.

Camelot needs to be more judicious with it´s "sources".




I really don't have a dog in this race, as they say, but I must agree that, from what little (very little) I have seen, the choice of people to be interviewed does appear a little odd. A good example is this Kettler person that I've seen discussed here a few days ago.
From the way people were discussing him - the amount of "coverage" he got here - you'd think he was an important source of "alternative" information, whether one believes in it or not. And all because of an interview by Ms. Cassidy, if I am not mistaken.

Out of curiosity, I went and searched a little, to see how he rated on other websites, dealing with this sort of subjects.
Now, admittedly I am no connoisseur of "alternative" websites, so I may have missed quite a few, but there was practically no mention of him. I did find a thread or two, here and there, but there was no heated argument about him or his predictions.

I was left with the impression that he was simply a guy who used the internet to voice what he thought - or maybe not - in order to get attention and, perhaps, more tangible benefits, too... And that's it? Apparently that's enough, these days, to garner interviews and this sort of attention from people?

Anyone can say anything, especially on the internet. Heck, I'll do it myself, right now:
I predict that on March 14th, 2012, a white glow will appear over Kazakhstan, or maybe Uzbekistan, which only the enlightened ones will be able to see, and a terrible, Earth-shattering disaster will be averted via the ET, who will also replace a few world leaders and influential puppet masters, including Obama and Putin, by substituting their subtle bodies. Oh, and all bank debts by individuals across the world will be erased, effective immediately.
Stay tuned.

There.
Why is my prediction less credible than Kettler's?
Because he is writing about it in a blog?
I can do that. You can do that.
Anyone can do that.

Where do people - interviewers - like Ms. Cassidy draw the line, then, in their choice of interviewees?
(And apparently she didn't even grill him afterwards, about the failure of his prediction to materialise?)

[RMorgan]

My overall stance is that there is no easy way out, yet: and I no longer believe that Bill Wood's testimony can be trusted.

Hi Bill,

I´m glad to see that reason is finally triumphing here.

Anyway, I can´t understand why you did believe Bill Wood in the first place.

I mean, he is just a man talking about a lot of crazy things without absolutely anything to back it up!

So why did you interviewed him in the first place?

Such things don´t damage Bill Wood´s image only. It damages Camelot´s and the alternative media reputation as a whole.

Camelot needs to be more judicious with it´s "sources".




I really don't have a dog in this race, as they say, but I must agree that, from what little (very little) I have seen, the choice of people to be interviewed does appear a little odd. A good example is this Kettler person that I've seen discussed here a few days ago.
From the way people were discussing him - the amount of "coverage" he got here - you'd think he was an important source of "alternative" information, whether one believes in it or not. And all because of an interview by Ms. Cassidy, if I am not mistaken.

Out of curiosity, I went and searched a little, to see how he rated on other websites, dealing with this sort of subjects.
Now, admittedly I am no connoisseur of "alternative" websites, so I may have missed quite a few, but there was practically no mention of him. I did find a thread or two, here and there, but there was no heated argument about him or his predictions.

I was left with the impression that he was simply a guy who used the internet to voice what he thought - or maybe not - in order to get attention and, perhaps, more tangible benefits, too... And that's it? Apparently that's enough, these days, to garner interviews and this sort of attention from people?

Anyone can say anything, especially on the internet. Heck, I'll do it myself, right now:
I predict that on March 14th, 2012, a white glow will appear over Kazakhstan, or maybe Uzbekistan, which only the enlightened ones will be able to see, and a terrible, Earth-shattering disaster will be averted via the ET, who will also replace a few world leaders and influential puppet masters, including Obama and Putin, by substituting their subtle bodies. Oh, and all bank debts by individuals across the world will be erased, effective immediately.
Stay tuned.

There.
Why is my prediction less credible than Kettler's?
Because he is writing about it in a blog?
I can do that. You can do that.
Anyone can do that.

Where do people - interviewers - like Ms. Cassidy draw the line, then, in their choice of interviewees?
(And apparently she didn't even grill him afterwards, about the failure of his prediction to materialise?)


That´s exactly my point, dear NeverMind! :)

I really can´t figure out what are the criteria for choosing which people should be interviewed or not.

Like you said, anyone can make a blog, which is free, by the way, and say whatever they want to say. This doesn´t makes them "whistleblowers" or "sources". This doesn´t proves anything.

I guess the more crazy and bold things you say, the bigger the chances are of becoming somewhat famous within the alternative media scenario.

We can´t confuse internet stuff with reality. These are totally different things.

I assure you that I could make a very good looking blog, saying that I am an ascended pleiadian super soldier jesus, living in the 5th dimensional jupiter, riding a comet who is actually a space ship, to visit some friends in the the hollow earth, right next to the black hole, and lots of people would believe me. This doesn´t mean I´m telling the truth, right?

Would it qualify me as a source or whistleblower? I don´t think so.

So, what are the criteria for choosing potential respondents?

I´m starting to think there are no criteria at all.

Cheers,

Raf.

[NeverMind]

I guess the more crazy and bold things you say, the bigger the chances are of becoming somewhat famous within the alternative media scenario.

We can´t confuse internet stuff with reality. These are totally different things.

Yet many people seem to be so desperate for the deus ex machina to appear, that even the most outrageous nonsense, repeated blatant failures of short-term predictions - and the most laughable excuses - don't seem to be teaching them anything.
THAT's what I find appallingly sad.


I assure you that I could make a very good looking blog, saying that I am an ascended pleiadian super soldier jesus, living in the 5th dimensional jupiter, riding a comet who is actually a space ship

Yeah, you already ARE saying that, in every post. :-)


So, what are the criteria for choosing potential respondents?

I´m starting to think there are no criteria at all.

I abhor cynicism, but I am starting to think that the only logical conclusion is: whatever attracts viewers/readers... and their money.
But whatever the "criterion" is, the end result IS, without a doubt, discreditation of the "alternative" line of thought in general.

[NeverMind]

The schism between one who feels confident in one's place in the world as "creator" and the place held by one who is committed to the position of "receiver" is the for me the cleavage point between the "two earths". I do not see how these two poles can merge? This is something I'd really like to discuss.

For what it's worth, I agree that this would be a very discussion-worthy subject. Totally.

[K626]

The irony is that just as we reach the nadir of extravagant claims, something completely out of this world and unexpected will happen.

K

[NeverMind]

The irony is that just as we reach the nadir of extravagant claims, something completely out of this world and unexpected will happen.


That has always been my intuition, too. :)

Nobody knows the day or the hour.
It will come like a thief in the night.

I have no real reason to doubt those words.

[Lazlo]

I wanted to check up on the Dave Corso testimaony but it doesn't appear to be included in the Camelot library at this point. Anyone have any input as to the story of what went on?

What was the core of his testimony and what happened that it was removed?

[Bill Ryan]

My overall stance is that there is no easy way out, yet: and I no longer believe that Bill Wood's testimony can be trusted.

Hi Bill,

I´m glad to see that reason is finally triumphing here.

Anyway, I can´t understand why you did believe Bill Wood in the first place.

I mean, he is just a man talking about a lot of crazy things without absolutely anything to back it up!

So why did you interviewed him in the first place?

Such things don´t damage Bill Wood´s image only. It damages Camelot´s and the alternative media reputation as a whole.

Camelot needs to be more judicious with its "sources".

Cheers,

Raf.

Hi, Raf:

I didn't "interview" Bill Wood -- I was invited to join a Livestream conference with him, Kerry and David Wilcock. That's the only time I've ever spoken with him.

I don't know how Kerry connected with him in the first place.... I have no info on that.

A substantial part of what Bill Wood said did tie in with high-strangeness off-record testimony that we received from other sources in 2007-9. (David W expanded on that in the Livestream conference: he was not wrong.)

Bill Wood's subsequent actions (including some off-record correspondence that has never been published) have persuaded me that he cannot be trusted, and is not a reliable source.

Re this...


Camelot needs to be more judicious with its "sources".

I do agree. But in fairness, this is not quite as simple as it is to say. :)

[RMorgan]

The irony is that just as we reach the nadir of extravagant claims, something completely out of this world and unexpected will happen.


That has always been my intuition, too. :)

Nobody knows the day or the hour.
It will come like a thief in the night.

I have no real reason to doubt those words.

Yes. Nobody knows. Nobody never actually knew when something big really happened.

It´s absolutely useless to keep looking forward to find predictions and people who are able to predict things.

I´ve never seen, during my life, any bold prediction that actually came to happen. I´m not saying it´s impossible, I´m just saying the probabilities are very small.

Cheers,

Raf.

[K626]

The trend right now is the noticeable ramping up of misinformation or highly complex and confusing data packets with tiny morcels to keep you interested. It means we are approaching an important crossroads. They know it and some of us feel it. Just waiting for the false flag on Iran and then it will all be on. It's gonna be something if you know what you're looking at.

K

[RMorgan]

My overall stance is that there is no easy way out, yet: and I no longer believe that Bill Wood's testimony can be trusted.

Hi Bill,

I´m glad to see that reason is finally triumphing here.

Anyway, I can´t understand why you did believe Bill Wood in the first place.

I mean, he is just a man talking about a lot of crazy things without absolutely anything to back it up!

So why did you interviewed him in the first place?

Such things don´t damage Bill Wood´s image only. It damages Camelot´s and the alternative media reputation as a whole.

Camelot needs to be more judicious with its "sources".

Cheers,

Raf.

Hi, Raf:

I didn't "interview" Bill Wood -- I was invited to join a Livestream conference with him, Kerry and David Wilcock. That's the only time I've ever spoken with him.

I don't know how Kerry connected with him in the first place.... I have no info on that.

A substantial part of what Bill Wood said did tie in with high-strangeness off-record testimony that we received from other sources in 2007-9. (David W expanded on that in the Livestream conference: he was not wrong.)

Bill Wood's subsequent actions (including some off-record correspondence that has never been published) have persuaded me that he cannot be trusted, and is not a reliable source.

Re this...


Camelot needs to be more judicious with its "sources".

I do agree. But in fairness, this is not quite as simple as it is to say. :)

Hey Bill,

Yes, I understand your point. I know these things might not be simple.

Anyway, as you refer to Bill Woods saying things that go along the lines of what David W says, I think that everything David W says are mostly public knowledge right now, and literally anyone willing to do a little research could come up with ideas similar to his. In my opinion, this doesn´t qualify anyone as a potential reliable source of information.

It´s easy to use other persons theories and stories to fabricate the illusion of support and evidence. That´s what most of these "sources" do. It looks almost like an infinite chain of mutual support, which doens´t mean anyone is actually saying the truth.

It´s an easy formula. Just take some respected personalities like David Icke and David Wilcock study their work for a while, come up with something similar to create the illusion of solidity and then add some other "new" stuff.

By the way, I wasn´t referring to you personally, I was referring to Camelot, which is one of your projects.

Thanks for the reply. I hope everything is ok with you in Vilcabamba. :)

Cheers,

Raf.

[Carmody]

My overall stance is that there is no easy way out, yet: and I no longer believe that Bill Wood's testimony can be trusted.

Hi Bill,

I´m glad to see that reason is finally triumphing here.

Anyway, I can´t understand why you did believe Bill Wood in the first place.

I mean, he is just a man talking about a lot of crazy things without absolutely anything to back it up!

So why did you interviewed him in the first place?

Such things don´t damage Bill Wood´s image only. It damages Camelot´s and the alternative media reputation as a whole.

Camelot needs to be more judicious with it´s "sources".

Cheers,

Raf.

People have to be given a voice. Discernment is in the hands of the individual, as it should be. Situations can evolve to be where they were ---and similar will probably happen again. That much is a 'given', as they say (gonna happen again as that is the way things are).

[K626]

It happens on the internet BEFORE it happens in reality. ;)

K

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My overall stance is that there is no easy way out, yet: and I no longer believe that Bill Wood's testimony can be trusted.

Hi Bill,

I´m glad to see that reason is finally triumphing here.

Anyway, I can´t understand why you did believe Bill Wood in the first place.

I mean, he is just a man talking about a lot of crazy things without absolutely anything to back it up!

So why did you interviewed him in the first place?

Such things don´t damage Bill Wood´s image only. It damages Camelot´s and the alternative media reputation as a whole.

Camelot needs to be more judicious with it´s "sources".

Cheers,

Raf.

People have to be given a voice. Discernment is in the hands of the individual, as it should be. Situations can evolve to be where they were ---and similar will probably happen again. That much is a 'given', as they say (gonna happen again as that is the way things are).

Looking makes things 'evolve'. But who chooses what we look at?

K

[onawah]

Thanks for the clarification, Bill.
Can you be any more specific about this?
Thanks again.


A substantial part of what Bill Wood said did tie in with high-strangeness off-record testimony that we received from other sources in 2007-9. (David W expanded on that in the Livestream conference: he was not wrong.)

[doodah]

By the way, I wasn´t referring to you personally, I was referring to Camelot, which is one of your projects.

Hi RMorgan - and hi Bill :-)

I hope you, Bill, don't mind me making a clarification here which will probably sound a bit nit-picky. I just want to point out that "Camelot" as it exists right now is not one of Bill's projects.

PROJECT CAMELOT was originally a joint effort between Bill and Kerry. Then they split. Now Bill's site is Project Avalon exclusively, and Kerry's site is now Project Camelot PRODUCTIONS. PCP. PCamelotP. She is not "Project Camelot," which is still the original site name, with original material generated by Bill-and-Kerry published in the Project Camelot Library.

Although she frequently identifies herself as "Project Camelot," in a legal sense she is not, she is Project Camelot Productions, and this should be remembered. There is a complete misperception that Bill has anything to do with her choices about her website. True, some of this is now rather confusing for people who don't know the history, and as we have here, Kerry's choices seem to kick back on Bill.

I hope I haven't mis-spoken here, Bill. This issue has bugged me for some time, how Kerry seems to forget that she is NOT "Project Camelot," she is Project Camelot Productions.

As for her choices? ... Use discernment; decide for yourself.

Peace everyone,
~ Doodah

[WHOMADEGOD]

My overall stance is that there is no easy way out, yet: and I no longer believe that Bill Wood's testimony can be trusted.

Hi Bill,

I´m glad to see that reason is finally triumphing here.

Anyway, I can´t understand why you did believe Bill Wood in the first place.

I mean, he is just a man talking about a lot of crazy things without absolutely anything to back it up!

So why did you interviewed him in the first place?

Such things don´t damage Bill Wood´s image only. It damages Camelot´s and the alternative media reputation as a whole.

Camelot needs to be more judicious with it´s "sources".

Cheers,

Raf.

Avalon is doing what it does best here. We are exchanging ideas and thoughts with different perspectives and slowly between us building a picture.

IMO it is is just as crucial to interview disinformers so we cam discern just that.

If all interviewees were, seemingly credible in content, connection and presentation it would not take long for complacency to set in.

Kerry is doing just fine, this forces us to question and remain awake at a crucial axis.

How can you fight the devil when you do not know what he looks like?

Blessings

Mark

[mahalall]

A reminder to be wary of false sadhus
those that talk beyond the jhanas when not having taken the jhanas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhy%C4%81na_in_Buddhism

[DeDukshyn]

My overall stance is that there is no easy way out, yet: and I no longer believe that Bill Wood's testimony can be trusted.

Hi Bill,

I´m glad to see that reason is finally triumphing here.

Anyway, I can´t understand why you did believe Bill Wood in the first place.

I mean, he is just a man talking about a lot of crazy things without absolutely anything to back it up!

So why did you interviewed him in the first place?

Such things don´t damage Bill Wood´s image only. It damages Camelot´s and the alternative media reputation as a whole.

Camelot needs to be more judicious with it´s "sources".

Cheers,

Raf.

Avalon is doing what it does best here. We are exchanging ideas and thoughts with different perspectives and slowly between us building a picture.

IMO it is is just as crucial to interview disinformers so we cam discern just that.

If all interviewees were, seemingly credible in content, connection and presentation it would not take long for complacency to set in.

Kerry is doing just fine, this forces us to question and remain awake at a crucial axis.

How can you fight the devil when you do not know what he looks like?

Blessings

Mark

I hate to be simplistic, but in reality "belief" is the weapon used against us, and it works because we all believe something. All they have to do is cover all the bases with some disinfo, and then we are basically left with an impossible task.

Let's back this up a minute. What can we do to nullify this process of control? Stop Believing (And thereby continuously allowing all possibilities-important for conscious creation). It may sound weird but if we focus our attention in the experience of the moment and believe the moment, they lose all power over us, as our "choices" are no longer guided by their "conditioning". We have been conditioned to "believe" the opposite is true. I no longer believe anything outright, but rather I entertain considerations based on how much confidence I can give them via my knowledge, external input, logic, rationale, etc. But I never have to believe anything. It is a false notion. I have nothing to defend, thus nothing to lose; and more the wiser. My two cents ;)

[highlyter]

Distractions at work?

From singer/songwriter John Mayer in Waiting for the world to change.. "we're never gonna beat this if belief is what we're fighting for"
Maybe we don't have to beat something, however, we have to elevate the collective soul.
Deciding who a rantor is ranting about...that's just bonkers a little bit.
Say it like it is... call them out in front of all to see...and the brash frustrations are causing way to many interruptions. I've experienced inability to continue watching Kerry for a while simply from the rudeness.
The best ability is dependability and we have to depend on one another to keep the higher vibrations encompassing the globe.
Thank you all for being here.
Love = L et OUR V ibration E volve

[Mozart]

... Although she frequently identifies herself as "Project Camelot," in a legal sense she is not, she is Project Camelot Productions, and this should be remembered.

*snip*

I hope I haven't mis-spoken here, Bill. This issue has bugged me for some time, how Kerry seems to forget that she is NOT "Project Camelot," she is Project Camelot Productions.

~ Doodah

Doodah ~

Well said. I cannot agree with you more on this point.

As the Editor and Coordinator for the Divine Cosmos Keyboard Commandos, a transcript team for David Wilcock's Divine Cosmos site, I am always buggered that Kerry never seems to add on "Productions" early in her video interviews that she does, so when you see her latest transcripts ...

http://projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/bill_wood/bill_wood.html

... and ...

http://projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/john_kettler/john_kettler.html

... that our team did, notice that we always added "[Productions]" after her initial introduction, sans that term.

My backup coordinator and I refuse to let her get away with it, so that's why we always will add in "[Productions]" any time that she skips that term in any transcript that we do.

[Fellow Aspirant]

Reading the first paragraphs of Kerry's post really sucked the air out of me. Her initial accusation was/is clearly aimed at David Wildcock. Period. When David's claims regarding the destruction of the underground bases appeared on PA's Forum I was elated, but wary. Such good news! I thought. Finally! I can't wait to hear some details, some news in the mainstream media, some proof!

Well, like everyone else, I'm still waiting. It wasn't just one post that David made, either, there were several, over several days; as he updated the progress of the off-world campaigners he sounded like one of the old-school (as in WW2) war correspondents, breathlessly issuing dispatches from the front.

First Virginia, then Boulder, then the underwater Gulf of Aden Strike(s) - I say strikes, because according to David, more than one strike had been necessary to fully destroy the installation - and finally the news of the imminent attack on the undersea base off China. Great stuff! Yea White Hats! and then ...
silence.

What are we supposed to think now? The time and angst that has been devoted to speculation regarding DUMBs by the "alternate awareness" community is immense. They are a linch-pin for so much of the conspiracy theorists' beliefs that to have them finally being systematically eliminated is, literally, a dream come true. If it's true. And there's the rub, isn't it?

So to me, there are two major concerns raised with Kerry's post:

1. What is the status of the DUMBS? and

2. What is the status of the credibility of Kerry and/or David?

Which, if any of the above, is in tatters?

The rest is psychodrama.

It appears that I must reserve judgement as I await, as usual, future developments.

[DreamsInDigital]

First Virginia, then Boulder, then the underwater Gulf of Aden Strike(s) - I say strikes, because according to David, more than one strike had been necessary to fully destroy the installation - and finally the news of the imminent attack on the undersea base off China. Great stuff! Yea White Hats! and then ...silence.
Are you sure these started with David? I am almost 100% Sure they originated with Tolec and his 4D Andromeda Council. If you check exopolitics.com and the Andromeda council interviews, they provide seismic reports etc for these spots, and such. And Tolec even claims a foreknowledge on the China Sea one.

As far as why things , even like the 80 plus now Elites not being covered in MSM, don't expect ANYTHING to be covered in MSM, it's a known fact that they are controlled by the Government and Censorship is at it's strongest right now. MSM is one of the most unreliable sources out there for truth and what is really going on. You should check out my thread on censorship here:
Inight: The Problems We Face With MSM and Proof/Evidence The PTW are Loosing, and Existence / Involvement of ET's UFO's etc. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41147-Insight-The-Problems-we-face-with-MSM-and-Proof-Evidence-the-PTW-loosing-ET-UFO-s-et)

[service2others]

The battle is a very personal thing. It's different for everyone. One mans' truth is another’s lie. The intent to WANT the truth is sometimes all that is needed to let your vibratory frequency show your true nature. It matters not to me, who thinks who is right. We are ALL right in my eyes as long as we are seeking the truth. Beware the entity who KNOWS the truth. Because I believe the divine plan calls for the truth to be hidden from us. This is a testing ground for those who seek it, and also for those who rail against one another with their egos.
Your personal intent is all that matters. Do no harm, and seek the truth. Your HEARTFELT intentions are all that matter. Peace.
[video=youtube;wcvCXTVQgMo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcvCXTVQgMo

[Fellow Aspirant]

As a long time student and admirer of Noam Chomsky, I'm well aware of the cesspool of treachery that is the MSM. What I was getting at in referring to the anticipation of their coverage of the DUMBs' destruction was more along the lines of a "disclosure" type event. I would never expect the MSM to be straight up with the truth, but if the DUMBs had actually been destroyed, even the MSM could not ignore such a literally earth shaking story. Sure, I'd expect some weird/insane spin on it, but there should be SOMETHING popping up to explain, say, the failure of thousands of service personnel to return from their tours of duty.

Unfortunately, to date, nada.

[friend]

Divide and conquer.

This whole "tear PC/PA/Alternative Media down" has always been a distraction. All you do is count on human nature and allow for sufficient time to pass. The in-fighting is doing all the work for Them. And these people were the ones you put your hopes on. Now look at them. It's quite embarrassing really.

[Debra]

[QUOTE=jackovesk;438332]Randy Maugans weighs in on the debate...

Kerry Continues the Mind Control Loop

Tuesday, February 28, 2012 at 12:31AM

She was warned, she was rebuked...she will not go down easily: In another broadside screed of half-hidden sanctimonious bull****, Kerry Cassidy climbed the pulpit once more and doused the net with here ongoing MIND CONTROL MEME:


Thanks for posting this weigh-in Jacovesk. Randy Maugans has a brilliant way of dissecting and I love his interviews. However, although I believe that the post mortem of content and context of exchange within the alternative media is important to cover and reveal, it also leaves me with a bitter taste when it goes on and on and on drilling down until there is a death.

Granted, this may all be necessary to ensure that standards are kept high, egos are self-checked and transparency and the goal of truth has a chance of breathing. But really, how much more do we want to put into what is also character assassination - let´s be honest. Kerry and Brockbrader for example have already stated what they think and feel about the other. But it is their fight. As is alleged other disagreements that come between other players in this field. We - on this forum - are just taking sides and using the opportunity to relive the differences amongst ourselves. Sheesh, we buy into the drama, don´t we? We are addicted to it. Just me, weighing in with this comment right now, I am doing the same thing.

However, I am trying to find my inner grace in all of this as well because I really don´t think that flogging this is ultimately good for our collective health. It certainly feeds a campaign to discredit the alternative media and that is NOT ON.

But seriously, can you please consider this, when it comes to holding the blow torch under a human being when they are already burnt, then what are we doing? Who are we?

Yes, I do have concerns about the energy that is mounted and flung into someones energy field, who is already battered right now. The charges against Kerry are well in place but Bill Brockbrader does not give up either, it should be noted. And I wonder why this is so.

For one, Brockbrader has been quick to throw grenades at the outset of every interview he has done since his trilogy with Kerry. And when he posted on PC´s facebook wall - the skype transcript between Cassidy and Corso - I thought to myself, who is worse here? I know it comes from a post on Off Planet Radio. But truly, why?

Brockbrader may indeed be someone who is genuine, I will be only too happy to discover that he is one of the real heroes helping to bring disclosure and free energy into reality. But this action, among others, says something smells very wrong here.

I also want to know if that skype exchange between Cassidy and Corso was meant to be public. Can anyone answer that? I have no idea what context it transpired in.

[Curt]

This whole debacle is reminding me just how much the alt community is descending into a ludicrous cult of personality. Can we get back to the issues that actually matter....and stop worrying about who said what to whom and all of the inside baseball nonsense....

Can we get a wizard in here to break this damn spell we're under, please?

Modwiz, come on buddy, where are you when we need you....

[Debra]

I just want an answer on this: Was the skype exchange between Cassidy and Corso meant to be public? I have no idea what context it transpired in.

I agree with you Curtis but I still think we need to turn the mirror onto ourselves here. Why? We are co-creators of this drama. We have helped to bring it on.



This whole debacle is reminding me just how much the alt community is descending into a ludicrous cult of personality. Can we get back to the issues that actually matter....and stop worrying about who said what to whom and all of the inside baseball nonsense....

Can we get a wizard in here to break this damn spell we're under, please?

Modwiz, come on buddy, where are you when we need you....

[Curt]

I just want an answer on this: Was the skype exchange between Cassidy and Corso meant to be public? I have no idea what context it transpired in.

I agree with you Curtis but I still think we need to turn the mirror onto ourselves here. Why? We are co-creators of this drama. We have helped to bring it on.



This whole debacle is reminding me just how much the alt community is descending into a ludicrous cult of personality. Can we get back to the issues that actually matter....and stop worrying about who said what to whom and all of the inside baseball nonsense....

Can we get a wizard in here to break this damn spell we're under, please?

Modwiz, come on buddy, where are you when we need you....

You may be right. But perhaps we can reflect on our own respective parts in this drama without fixating on the other 'players'

[modwiz]

This whole debacle is reminding me just how much the alt community is descending into a ludicrous cult of personality. Can we get back to the issues that actually matter....and stop worrying about who said what to whom and all of the inside baseball nonsense....

Can we get a wizard in here to break this damn spell we're under, please?

Modwiz, come on buddy, where are you when we need you....

I said my piece, Curtis, here:http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41580-Kerry-s-public-message-to-Light-Workers-who-serve-the-dark&p=437970&viewfull=1#post437970

It comes down to the of discussing people or ideas and the kinds of minds that choose the former. It's where they live and it is hard to break the spells people put on themselves or the colon yoga they practice. Wisdom dictates to duck and cover during a sh!tfight. There have been some other clear heads attempting the same thing. It is like a parent who keeps going into a roomful of rowdy children and tells them to conduct themselves better. You get looked at, a moment of silence occurs, and then it's back to mayhem.

[Debra]

You may be right. But perhaps we can reflect on our own respective parts in this drama without fixating on the other 'players'

Fixate I will Curtis, especially if I think that we could be losing someone of value. I cannot fight peoples´ battles for them. That is their business, and sure I believe we all are responsible for what unfolds in our lives. However, I am standing up for what I believe, and when I see a witch hunt, which I think this has become, I cannot stand by and say nothing.

I think this is also a sign of the energies reconfiguring us all, so I have to consider why I am strongly pushing this view. It triggers me, you bet :) What I would like to see, however, is more dialogue and not debate. Here and especially amongst the media players in the disclosure movement. It would be a fine day to see them converge and spend quality time sharing knowledge and working - together - towards some collective goals.

Thanks for holding the mirror up to me Curtis :)

[Nerge]

Seems to me like a lot of energy being wasted on drama and missing the real point here.

Here's a thought and perspective I just had on all this and how I kind of see it, if in a very simple way:

Imagine the alternative community is akin to an army marching to take down the big, bad PTB/W - good progress was being made but a disagreement broke out among the ranks as to which way was best to take to the battle and which tactics to use.

The army grounds to a halt and before you know it everyone's shouting and trying to point out who is more right or should be leading the whole movement; and now everyone's become stuck in the mud due to being in one place for too long wasting energy on pointless bickering.

Meanwhile, back at the big, bad, PTB/W base they're having a right old chuckle, as they point out over the horizon at the stuck-in-the-mud alternative community army stuck fast throwing mud pies at one another.

PTB/W:"Take your time shoring up those barricades and adding a few more mines lads - I think they'll be stuck fast or going around in circles for a good while yet!"

Let's all get back on track shall we? Focus on the real target here.
Most of us are on the same side after all, we just appear to lose sight of that all too often it would seem. :)

[Debra]

This is a tad frustrating, can someone - if they know - PLEASE tell me:
Was the skype exchange between Corso and Cassidy meant to be public?

Have I missed something here? I guess I have a problem with private correspondence being aired.

[ThePythonicCow]

This is a tad frustrating, can someone - if they know - PLEASE tell me:
Was the skype exchange between Corso and Cassidy meant to be public?

Have I missed something here? I guess I have a problem with private correspondence being aired.

I had a similar concern. But when I noticed Bill Ryan comment on the posting of that Skype exchange (here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41580-Kerry-s-public-message-to-Light-Workers-who-serve-the-dark&p=438643&viewfull=1#post438643)), without objecting in public (nor in private to us mods) of its being posted here, I figured that it was probably OK. I doubted Bill would stand quietly by while some private conversation with Kerry was posted on this forum, without Kerry's acquiescence.

[panopticon]

It comes down to the of discussing people or ideas and the kinds of minds that choose the former. It's where they live and it is hard to break the spells people put on themselves or the colon yoga they practice. Wisdom dictates to duck and cover during a sh!tfight. There have been some other clear heads attempting the same thing. It is like a parent who keeps going into a roomful of rowdy children and tells them to conduct themselves better. You get looked at, a moment of silence occurs and then it's back to mayhem.

G'day Modwiz,

I reckon you hit the nail on the head!
It wasn't enough for me to merely "like" your comment.
I applaud it!:clap2:
Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

[Billy]

I just want an answer on this: Was the skype exchange between Cassidy and Corso meant to be public? I have no idea what context it transpired in.

I agree with you Curtis but I still think we need to turn the mirror onto ourselves here. Why? We are co-creators of this drama. We have helped to bring it on.



I think Kerry is wise enough to realize that whatever you comment whether in an Email or Skype chat, phone calls, text, can easily be made public. She may not give a hoot either way.
Was the 5 million emails that Wikileaks released meant to be public. No they never thought that those that monitor everyone are also being monitored and there is no hiding place.

A lesson for everyone. If you give a damn then Be watchful and careful what you put out there. If you don't give damn and have no secrets to hide. Carry on

[Bill Ryan]

This is a tad frustrating, can someone - if they know - PLEASE tell me:
Was the skype exchange between Corso and Cassidy meant to be public?

Have I missed something here? I guess I have a problem with private correspondence being aired.

I had a similar concern. But when I noticed Bill Ryan comment on the posting of that Skype exchange (here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41580-Kerry-s-public-message-to-Light-Workers-who-serve-the-dark&p=438643&viewfull=1#post438643)), without objecting in public (nor in private to us mods) of its being posted here, I figured that it was probably OK. I doubted Bill would stand quietly by while some private conversation with Kerry was posted on this forum, without Kerry's acquiescence.

It was absolutely not okay. I expected the mods to take it down, as it was re-posting a private conversation that was clearly not intended to be in the public domain.

But (like Lord Sidious's private toxic diatribe on the Atticus1 Forum about Avalon, which permanently sealed his fate) -- in my opinion it was important to recognize that this was valid information about Dave Corso's position -- who I also count as a friend, but who really should have known better. So my position was to let it stand, and I said nothing.


[Dave: Get it together. You support Duncan loyally, which is admirable, but neither of you realized that Kerry is stuck between a rock and a hard place inasmuch as she is critical of much of what David Wilcock says and does, but in another way continues to be loyal to him, as she feels she must. As always, one of the real problems in this rolling Shakespearean drama is the "Anonymous Irishman". Splits, conflict and unresolved confusion ensue inevitably wherever he turns up. This is important to understand.]
Kerry is under a great deal of pressure and attack at the moment and is defending herself with characteristic courage and straight-shooting honesty. And it is important to know that she was referencing David Wilcock about the underground-bases fantasy. (Yes, I do think this came from "Tolec", who can also be 100% discounted as delusional.)

[gaiagirl]

Thank you for the clarification Bill . . . much appreciated . . .

[Debra]

Thanks Bill. Appreciate.





This is a tad frustrating, can someone - if they know - PLEASE tell me:
Was the skype exchange between Corso and Cassidy meant to be public?

Have I missed something here? I guess I have a problem with private correspondence being aired.

I had a similar concern. But when I noticed Bill Ryan comment on the posting of that Skype exchange (here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41580-Kerry-s-public-message-to-Light-Workers-who-serve-the-dark&p=438643&viewfull=1#post438643)), without objecting in public (nor in private to us mods) of its being posted here, I figured that it was probably OK. I doubted Bill would stand quietly by while some private conversation with Kerry was posted on this forum, without Kerry's acquiescence.

It was absolutely not okay. I expected the mods to take it down, as it was re-posting a private conversation that was clearly not intended to be in the public domain.

[DreamsInDigital]

As a long time student and admirer of Noam Chomsky, I'm well aware of the cesspool of treachery that is the MSM. What I was getting at in referring to the anticipation of their coverage of the DUMBs' destruction was more along the lines of a "disclosure" type event. I would never expect the MSM to be straight up with the truth, but if the DUMBs had actually been destroyed, even the MSM could not ignore such a literally earth shaking story. Sure, I'd expect some weird/insane spin on it, but there should be SOMETHING popping up to explain, say, the failure of thousands of service personnel to return from their tours of duty.

Unfortunately, to date, nada.
I still think you're trying to give the MSM to much credit. Or you lack the awareness of just how deep and strong the strangle hold on the media by the Suppressors really truly goes. If the DUMBs aren't even "supposed" to exist, but do. Then, if the media reports on "something that doesn't "exist" " being blown up. Then the "media" and ultimately the "government" has to explain why they existed in the first place, and what they were intended for, and that's a pandoras box that the "government" doesn't want opened because it stands to further undermines their control and lead to even more suspicion, and eroding of blind trust by the general public. Plus then they'd have to explain also the whys and hows of them being destroyed.

[karamba]

http://exotica-radio.com/podcast/between-worlds-the-duncan-and-miranda-tapes-part-1.html
its the interesting conversation "Between world Duncan and Miranda"part one and part two> really recommended >

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OffPlanet Radio-02-25-2012-Randy Maugans, Duncan O'Finioan, Miranda Kelly

[ThePythonicCow]

It was absolutely not okay. I expected the mods to take it down, as it was re-posting a private conversation that was clearly not intended to be in the public domain.
Aham ;).

It turned out that the first time I ever saw that Skype conversation was not in its posting here, nor in a "Reported Post" (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/buttons/report-40b.png), but in your (Bill's) reply. So far as I am aware, no other mod or admin had noticed the posting of that Skype conversation prior to that point either. I saw that you (Bill) had posted something, and (not surprisingly) went to this thread to read your post.

Reading something for the very first time as a Quote in a post by yourself ... shall I say ... colored my response :).

[pyriel]

David wilcock really hasnt had anything all that good lately. I like alot of his old stuff but for about a year now, it hasnt been all that good and havent really been interested in anything from him. Now he is a very good researcher from what I can tell.

As for corso, i dont overly care for him just from the camelot videos he was in, specially the awake and aware one. I do like Duncan tho.

As for Kerry, I dont think she has done very good lately either but I'm not going to flog her for interviewing a disinfo. agent either. As one post said, it might not be a bad thing to interview someone you know is a disinfo. agent. It could help people with improving they're skills to point out disinfo from good info. but adding at the end of the video that the person is a disinfo agent and/or her views on what was side would probably be good, might cut down the B.S. like she supports/is a part of the disinfo. company. etc etc.

[Limor Wolf]

I have seen nothing in Kerry's posts that deserved to engulf her with so much criticism, some of it being personal and not to the point. I felt compelled to write to Her -
"Regarding your two last blog posts: 'Not so fast...' 'Humanity get off your knees' I so much appreciate your words there. It seems lately that we are facing another facet in this earth battle and thats occuring within the so called 'Awake and aware ' lines.
Not surprising, as that is what obviously was about to come, as yet another step in this 'Arm wrestling game'.

People, probably according to their wishfull thinking are taking things and 'information' at face value.. not doing much of a critical thinking or are willing to take a higher and more broadened perspective. Our situation is far from being towords any ending. It looks like now more than ever its time to roll our sleevs, spread the words, work towords a vision of OUR OWN creation, release the victim's mentality and find our very rooted existing inner strengh that can never fail us. A most important goal that you yourself showing by an example - and there's no words that can really complement your work and your streangth of character!
There are those that dont think that THEY can match this example and are trying to find all the excuses to faults YOU. I guess it does not feel very nice to be 'attacked' by others that claim they share the same goal. UNITY - apperantly is still something that needs to be learned and excercised, even between those that declare their absolute desire for it, not to be confused with agreeing on everything or taking the same steps and the same roads, we all have our ways to arrive to our personal destination,but we sometimes seem to forget we have a very important collective one as well..

For example - The sheer readiness of some to jump on the so called 'galactic spaceship' without even knowing the Captain's name.. reminds me of volunteering to go cruising on the 'Costa Concordia'(or any other 'Costa' for that matter,as it seems that something is going on there) just because being offered a free food and cabin. this kind of behaviour is a real reason for concern, therefore I am sure there are quite many who are most thankfull to you Kerry for expressing it as you did.

As Alex Coliier said at the end of his famous 1994 Youtube interview: "..We have to stop allowing ourselvs to be manipulated... THEY are not god, they are not our saviors, we need to be our own saviors, we can ask them for guidance and help but they're not god. period. "

..Dont worship them, dont worship anybody, worship the god inside of you. ..Dont take anything at face value - make them prove it , if somebody tells you that 'this is truth', make them prove it. If its real it will stand up the scrutiny, if it isn't,it wont. Because the truth can always stand on its own, it does'nt need help and it does'nt need lies to stand up.."

..we have got to start come together as a race"


Again, Thank you so much, Kerry for everything that you do. there is a constant silent audience that is backing you up, although,those that like to air thier judgments towords you without even experiencing one fifth of what you were involved with so far, might be heard a little louder nowdays, but that is an illusion. I am sure that in some higer realms of experience your extreme efforts are being a great deal noticed, you might even get to chose a free round of leisure time the next round.lol. but it just might be that you will chose to skip that and continue to your next adventure.. :D

Recognizing ones pure intentions despite not agreeing with them on steps they make is crucial nowdays, mainly because most of our society do this themselves, they believe that the government is doing what it can to manage the various situations on earth to the benefit of the society, thats a critical mistake. we are debating about Bill Wood's and other whistleblowers candid testimony and if its true or false.. fair enough ! But is there anyone here who question Kerry's real motives?

Let's have a small test -

In regards to Humanity's best interest at heart and the intention to bring some valid solutions to the table, who do you think has positive intention and who does not?

Charles (Atticus or the prince of wales, you chose)
Cliford Stone
David Wilcock
Bill Clinton
Paul (our Administrator) ;)
Kerry Cassidy

I think it can be quite distinguishable, therefore, if we don't agree with someone who clearly is working for the best interest of humanity, why don't we do it with the minimum of respect requested.
I think Kerry has earned it that far

[karamba]

http://exotica-radio.com/podcast/special-edition-with-bill-brockbrader-eva-moore-duncan-ofini.html

The tumult of the out of control "spin cycle" at Project Camelot: non-sequitur blog posts, Kerry's Skype rage-fest, the story behind the Bill Wood "Burn Notice", the serious aspects of co-opting and marginalizing the terms for "mind control"; operators and handlers behind the scenes and the "Hollywood Effect" used by Project Camelot to sensationalize testimonies.

The serious work of exposing the dark side, government projects, and mental slavery has been turned into just another media industry. The victim is really TRUTH, as egos, money, and handlers take over. Four Project Camelot witnesses discuss what is wrong and why.Live 2 Hour Summit on Whistleblowers, Mind Control, and Media Manipulation-Randy Maugans with Bill Brockbrader, Eva Moore, Duncan O'Finioan, and Dave Corso

[Limor Wolf]

Listening to the 'exotice radio' link above - it opened with bashing Project Camelot- Kerry specifically. whats the point in wasting energies on that? BW has decalared- "there are problems in the Project Camelot world " He probably did not have noticed that ' there are problems in the Bill Brockbeader and Eva world too..

Has not any of the participants above have heard on the 'not participating' possibility when there is someone you don't appreciate? meaning take yourself and don't rub shoulders with them.

The complete non-sense when implying as if Kerry is professionally operating a 'mind control' technique on her interviewee,is, lets say slightly exeggerated :-) saying it on public radio feels fishy to me. and it serves no one. if you have an issue with someone, say it to their face privetly, Kerry is no saint, Bill brockwhatever isn't either, niether Dave corso or Duncan O'Finion.. turning arrows on one another is a PTB style, Thank you guys for participating in the pattern that you claim you abhore so much. It will be suggested: mind your own stories and keep on moving.

It is clear there is a deliberate attack on Project Camelot in the last few months. My hope is that it is transperent enough for all of us to see and that we have no intention to coroperate with that. Next ->

[dddanieljjjamesss]

Man, there are no sides.
That's when you win.

Que sera, sera.

Love it either way.