How government agencies control

[Tony]

HOW GOVERNMENT AGENCIES CONTROL THE POPULATION...

...through “Dullness” and “Agitation”!

I spend quite a bit of time trying to get into the minds of the controllers - just through logic, nothing more!
Although the formula of Problem Reaction Solution works, it doesn't really reveal the formula that could be behind that.

We know that they use natural occurring events to mask their intentions - which is what I would do too if I was a wrong'un!
I find I live in two worlds: one stuck in ignorance, and the other trying to get unstuck. I have look into what is used in both - or what could be similar in both - and I came up with something as simple as...

Dullness and Agitation!

In the practice of meditation, there two states which we have to be aware of, as they cause obstacles in practice...dullness and agitation. The Buddha said, not too tight and not too loose.

The Government agencies must know of the principle of the weakness of our human mind.
If we are honest, we spend most of our lives being either occupied or vacant.
The majority of the population are kept in dullness, through entertainment, media, class consciousness, food and water, alcohol, education, debt...etc etc.

So who do they keep agitated?
Who do they want to make angry?
Those who are trying to wake up!
Every injustice we see is meant to get us to over-react: we see this particularly in videos on the YouTube, and in some of our interaction on the forum. Passion can sometimes be misdirected into anger. Anger is important...but not aggression – that is self-destructive.

Why?
Well, those who are dull do not see the point.
Those who are agitated miss the point.
Neither are seeing clearly.

We are being kept insane, though we do not notice it.

The first steps to sanity is to recognise that one might be insane...

[Tony]

Have you noticed how music in a film can increase one's heart rate?
To get us more involved!

[Borden]

I fully agree. The western world is geared towards stress then emptiness ... emptiness then stress ... in a never-ending loop. Dullness and agitation. Quite. It's the kind of subtle attrition by which the most expert abuser keeps his victim in thrall, too rattled, depleted and perpetually shell-shocked to break out of the conditioning.

People are generally required to do something essentially meaningless to their personal path so that they can be a proper part of society. This means spending most of their waking lives in service to dark powers ... by which I mean the dark powers whose sigil and ephemera (a magical creation) enslave the world. Money. By turning the giant hamster wheel for these dark powers we exhaust the minds ... and then in an effort to relax we sit in front of 'entertainment' that depletes and further enslaves the mind.

The trap is brilliant, and it has evolved and evolved over the centuries. The trap is so brilliant that the apparent rewards for turning the hamster wheel efficiently even seem attractive because they seem to offer escape from the other aspect of the trap. If you are an efficient hamster you can afford the biggest plasma TV, and can therefore have your wits and sensitivity melted in style - by the parade of hideous drivel that passes for television entertainment.

In a moralistic illusion there are also great rewards for being in the right, for being correct, for being the good guy. The carrots and sticks are absolutely everywhere, and in absolutely every guise you can imagine.

We're invited to get angry or feel injustice at the news ... we're invited to be pro this and anti that. The dissonance is expert ... we are bombarded with a million and one choices that are not choices. You may get riled and stirred by politics for instance, in which case you are even allowed to vote for either red or blue evil. The polarisation of our feelings mostly takes place within the arena of the meaningless. But if our energies and intelligence were free from these emotional traps ... we would see the game being played on us. And that wouldn't do now, would it?

We're being kept busy at every level. The intelligent are indoctrinated and rigidified. It doesn't matter how bright you are, if you've undergone a system of education that teaches you parameters and feeds your ego about your own intelligence, then you can only be intelligent within the sphere of that system's values. The dark powers have an answer for everything, and that includes the 'alternative' world. If I were a wrong'un I would seed it with ridiculous nonsense and in-fighting in order to discredit it. I would plant fakes and frauds within its ranks and then have them rumbled. I might even plant highly persuasive but bizarre and ridiculous information in the path of genuine researchers in order to discredit everything else they might say.

By the way, having given up television some time ago, and recently being subjected to a bit of it ... you're not kidding about us being kept insane! Gibberingly so.

I like that Goldilocks attitude of 'not too tight, not too loose'. This Buddha bloke you mentioned sounds like he might be on to something.

Borden

[Tony]

This principle of dullness and agitation, or vacancy and occupied,
and the themes of George Orwell's 1984 and Aldous Huxley's Brave New World.
One aggressive, and one soft approach.

Very rarely throughout the day and night are we not in one of these states.
Being out of these state IS being free!!!

Being vacant is not knowing.
Being occupied is not knowing.
Being neither of these two is knowing!

That is how simple it is to control people.

[Borden]

Pie'n'eal, I wonder if you have any advice for people on how to find that 'not too tight, not too loose' state while having to engage the world, engage the day? Without necessarily becoming a committed Buddhist, I mean.

The psychological climate of good cop / bad cop is very hard to escape. We impose it on ourselves even when it's not being imposed on us. It's imprinted in us. It's ironic, but I think many people find themselves vacant while occupied, and occupied while vacant. What I mean is that they have to switch off to get on with their mundane jobs, and then while slumped, exhausted in front of the goggle box their minds are whirring whether they like it or not.

I don't know about you, but I find a lot television these days to be a perfect example of this method of control, and it is so crassly, screamingly blatant that it actually frightens me to know that millions of people all around me are tuning in! Soap operas that consist of endless parades of uninspiring, miserable phony people engaged in the most boring and petty dialogue about their boring and petty lives ... reality shows where the audience is urged to love or hate neurotic participants ... news and current affairs programmes - where hair-dos and suits with an increasingly hateful air of pretend authority deliver increasingly palpable lies from the 'ministry of truth' in increasingly patronizing baby-talk.

And adverts, let's not forget them, nerve-jangling, blithersome horrors that they are. Television adverts are like a full frontal assault on the subconscious mind by a gang of psychopaths. I sometimes feel that the abysmal dross of television is designed that way to weaken the mind so totally that the shrieking hawkers with their little twenty second hypno-shows can get in where any functioning mind would never allow them.

I'm sorry to bang on about television pie'n'eal, but I feel it's an important part of the polarization process. And you can see from my comments above that I haven't quite got the hang of detachment from anger, haha. I reckon that's the 'occupied' state then! But I tend to rage in the moment and then drop it.

I know where my own 'still-point' is, and I found it through an awful lot of exploration, through an awful lot of anguish, and in my own highly eclectic way. In the end though, all my searching seemed for nothing, because it's a state I already knew deep down. That's the funny thing. It's a bit like someone spending half an hour looking for his glasses only to realise they're on his face. Despite how I sound above, I do access that in-between state quite a lot, but I couldn't describe it or how to do it, and besides ... why should I tell anyone else? I've seen 'A fish called Wanda', and I remember Otto's assertion that the central message of Buddhism is 'every man for himself'. (Sorry, my two polarities seem to be vitriolically angry and annoyingly silly.)

So I wondered if you had anything - if not a mantra, a reminder - that can trigger the in-between state. Because the wise things we come up with while contemplative are rather easy to lose sight of while we're unblocking a toilet or having to deal with witless people. I find these triggers and mantras pretty useful, and I'm sure Buddhism has a stack of them.

Thanks,

Borden

[Tony]

Pie'n'eal, I wonder if you have any advice for people on how to find that 'not too tight, not too loose' state while having to engage the world, engage the day? Without necessarily becoming a committed Buddhist, I mean.

The psychological climate of good cop / bad cop is very hard to escape. We impose it on ourselves even when it's not being imposed on us. It's imprinted in us. It's ironic, but I think many people find themselves vacant while occupied, and occupied while vacant. What I mean is that they have to switch off to get on with their mundane jobs, and then while slumped, exhausted in front of the goggle box their minds are whirring whether they like it or not.

I don't know about you, but I find a lot television these days to be a perfect example of this method of control, and it is so crassly, screamingly blatant that it actually frightens me to know that millions of people all around me are tuning in! Soap operas that consist of endless parades of uninspiring, miserable phony people engaged in the most boring and petty dialogue about their boring and petty lives ... reality shows where the audience is urged to love or hate neurotic participants ... news and current affairs programmes - where hair-dos and suits with an increasingly hateful air of pretend authority deliver increasingly palpable lies from the 'ministry of truth' in increasingly patronizing baby-talk.

And adverts, let's not forget them, nerve-jangling, blithersome horrors that they are. Television adverts are like a full frontal assault on the subconscious mind by a gang of psychopaths. I sometimes feel that the abysmal dross of television is designed that way to weaken the mind so totally that the shrieking hawkers with their little twenty second hypno-shows can get in where any functioning mind would never allow them.

I'm sorry to bang on about television pie'n'eal, but I feel it's an important part of the polarization process. And you can see from my comments above that I haven't quite got the hang of detachment from anger, haha. I reckon that's the 'occupied' state then! But I tend to rage in the moment and then drop it.

I know where my own 'still-point' is, and I found it through an awful lot of exploration, through an awful lot of anguish, and in my own highly eclectic way. In the end though, all my searching seemed for nothing, because it's a state I already knew deep down. That's the funny thing. It's a bit like someone spending half an hour looking for his glasses only to realise they're on his face. Despite how I sound above, I do access that in-between state quite a lot, but I couldn't describe it or how to do it, and besides ... why should I tell anyone else? I've seen 'A fish called Wanda', and I remember Otto's assertion that the central message of Buddhism is 'every man for himself'. (Sorry, my two polarities seem to be vitriolically angry and annoyingly silly.)

So I wondered if you had anything - if not a mantra, a reminder - that can trigger the in-between state. Because the wise things we come up with while contemplative are rather easy to lose sight of while we're unblocking a toilet or having to deal with witless people. I find these triggers and mantras pretty useful, and I'm sure Buddhism has a stack of them.

Thanks,

Borden

Now that was funny!! :laugh:


So I wondered if you had anything - if not a mantra, a reminder - that can trigger the in-between state.

I find this works for me.
Merely be aware of the space between objects.
And the space between thoughts.

The moment you are aware of the thought, there is a detachment.
It's when you get caught up in the thoughts that you become occupied.

Too loose is indifference.
Too loose is being lost by being involved in things.

Quite often, our bodies and minds can work on auto-pilot, which allows the mind to have a sense of detachment. Like driving your familiar car.
When we are engaged in an activity that is new, or requires more concentration, on those occasions, merely be one with the activity.
For example, cutting a piece of paper with a very sharp knife: just be absolutely there.

To simplify, if one is aware that one is not unhappy, and not indifferent, then one is, by default, happy.
So being there is extremely simple. Just being there in that activity. Without being caught up in it.

Buddhism can sound so complicated...but it is honestly so simple.
Bud = awake to our true nature, which is ordinary
Dha = exhausting our fixated ideas

It's so simple, it's ordinary.
It's so ordinary, it's simple.

Tony

The Dha bit is very important because it's like being shown how to dribble a football, and then you just practise with it and get stronger - and gradually you fall over less and make fewer mistakes. That is the practice.

Row Row Row your boat...is just continuing the practice of letting go of fixations. And one is contented in that.

[eaglespirit]

Get out in nature...Your own favorite way, consistently.

[Corncrake]

For another perspective on control you may be interested to watch Adam Curtis's The Trap (http://adamcurtisfilms.blogspot.com/ ) which "consists of three one-hour programmes which explore the concept and definition of freedom, specifically, "how a simplistic model of human beings as self-seeking, almost robotic, creatures led to today's idea of freedom." - the 'model' being based on Game Theory. Enjoy!

[Borden]

Beautifully put, Tony, thank you.

By the way, regarding what you said about the music in films ... what about the music for news programmes?! It's designed to raise your heart rate and terrify you before they even start talking down to you. There doesn't even seem any attempt to hide what they're doing. I remember feeling scared and depressed as a kid by that news music with the Big Ben chimes in it.

p.s. for my own peace of mind I'm going to assume you were laughing with me and not at me. (Got any mantras against paranoia?)

Borden

[K626]

We are born wild.

In the womb sea we are all children of the moon.

That must be converted to the sun.

Peace

K

[Hermite]

Paranoia, it'll destroy ya.

I just wanted to say, Borden, I am so in agreement with you about the TV. I gave it up 6 years ago. In that time I have convinced 2 other people to do the same. After a short time, they both thanked me profusely, saying that it has helped clear their thinking and made their time much more valuable and enjoyable. On the other hand, I have had dozens of people tell me how important TV is. They learn so much, it doesn't control them, and etc. What are ya gonna do?

I think it would be great if all the power were to go out for 3 days. Maybe that would help break the TV habit. Probably not, though. As soon as it came back on, the first thing everyone would do would be to turn on their TVs, to find out what happened. I find that rather sad.

[Maia Gabrial]

I think it would be great if all the power were to go out for 3 days. Maybe that would help break the TV habit. Probably not, though. As soon as it came back on, the first thing everyone would do would be to turn on their TVs, to find out what happened. I find that rather sad.

I think you hit a solution to break the cycle. So, if the controllers were wise (which I don't think they are), they have to make sure that the power always stays on to keep the hynosis going... :becky:

This has been such an informative thread and I want to thank you, pie'n'eal.
Knowing how it works is the first step in how to overcome it....