New wikileaks story is huge..I suggest if you are interested to pay close attention!!

[Kimberley]

Hi I know there is a wiki leaks up date section in the news section... however the wiki leaks story has been dormant for months... On Sunday night est and Monday morning uk time it erupted again.

If you mods want to move this thread to the wiki leaks section again so be it however it is not getting the proper attention being in an old thread... this is such a huge and important story ....

I can not keep up with it fast enough.. I do not have enough time to keep up... so I am suggesting that any and all that have interest need to keep checking twitter for your self, as I am doing.

http://twitter.com/#!/wikileaks


How do we solve this posting new info problem when an old story pops up again that needs to not be put aside in an old thread??

Much love to us all!!!

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For those following this big story.... I followed several of the twitter posts and found all of this:

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WikiLeaks: Emails Leak Exposes Inner Workings of Private Intel Firm Stratfor, a "Shadow CIA"
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What's Next for the WikiLeaks 'Global Intel' Files: Feb. 28 Updates
http://www.thenation.com/blog/166484/whats-next-wikileaks-global-intel-files-tuesday-updates

this is of interest.. from the above article
9:30 The official @WikiLeaks feed says that due to “embargo breach” by Fairfax all of the 4000 e-mails that relate to Assange or WikiLeaks may be released today by its twenty-five media partners instead of emerging slowly.

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PRESS RELEASE - STRATFOR EMAILS: US HAS ISSUED SEALED INDICTMENT AGAINST JULIAN ASSANGE

Tuesday 28th February 2012 18:30 GMT Confidential emails obtained from the US private intelligence firm Stratfor show that the United States Government has had a secret indictment against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange for more than 12 months. Fred Burton, Stratfor’s Vice-President for Counterterrorism and Corporate Security, is a former Deputy Chief of the Department of State’s (DoS) counterterrorism division for the Diplomatic Security Service (DSS).

http://wikileaks.org/Stratfor-Emails-US-Has-Issued.html

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Sweden will grant extradition of Assange to US if not stopped by international political pressure

http://ferrada-noli.blogspot.com/2011/11/likely-swedish-extradition-of-assange.html

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WikiLeaks' Stratfor dump lifts lid on intelligence-industrial complex, WikiLeaks' latest release, of hacked emails from Stratfor, shines light on the murky world of private intelligence-gathering

http://ferrada-noli.blogspot.com/2011/11/likely-swedish-extradition-of-assange.html

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http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/16...nce-file-.html

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much love to us all!!!! this is so fun!!!

[Kristo]

Thanks for sharing your digging with us Kimberley. Indeed this is very important as well as EXCITING!!!! Woo Hoo!
(((Hugs)))
Kris

[ponda]

This clip is what follows on from the Democracy Now video posted above from Kimberley

democracynow.org - Emails leaked by WikiLeaks from the private intelligence firm Stratfor reveal the chemical industrial giant Dow Chemical closely followed the work of activists around the 25th anniversary of the Bhopal chemical disaster, the 1984 gas leak that killed anywhere between 3,500 and 25,000 people. Of particular interest to Dow was the group, The Yes Men -- the anti-corporate pranksters who pulled off a famous 2004 hoax that led the world to believe Dow had finally taken responsibility for the Bhopal tragedy. "With us, they were carefully paying attention to every move that we were making publicly, especially anything to do with Dow and Bhopal," said Andy Bichlbaum of The Yes Men. "What surprised us in those emails, though, was that we would have assumed that Dow would be really concerned with the exact issue of Bhopal and Dow's responsibility, stuff that could directly impact their bottom line. But, what they, what Stratfor seems to be really a bit obsessed with is whether we or other organizations are going to draw this into a bigger critique of corporate power."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgO6z67tNK4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgO6z67tNK4

[TargeT]

Wiki leaks = discernment test...

Cointelpro is real....

Wikileaks, Watch, Learn But Never Believe!
 
    … by  Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
 

NO, WE DIDN'T FORGET
It’s almost like a Sherlock Holmes story.  We are seeing it start now.  My first sign, that a mixed intelligence, disinformation campaign or worse was in the works was last week. 
A writer, former Israeli, close friend of, coincidentally as we will see, Julian Assange,  wrote an article exposing the 1973 War in the Middle East as a plot by Henry Kissinger, then Secretary of State for Nixon, Anwar Sadat of Egypt and Sharon of Israel. 
The jist of it is that Kissinger had them pretend to go to war so that they could all secretly plot against Syria, whose army was destroyed.
For this to happen, Egypt had to cross the Suez Canal (Sinai was in Israel’s hands then) and then, for no reason, stop, split their army and let Israel pass on through unmolested.
As a “partial mistake,” Egypt’s infantry destroyed most of Israel’s tanks using TOW missiles in one of the most dramatic successes in military history.  That is underplayed.
A good friend of mine, former Defense Attache to Israel, has described the drive to Sinai with former Ambassador Pickering, seeing the remains of Israel’s tank corps strewn across the desert.

Israeli Tank - 1973 War
Our “writer” puts that down to poor communications.  The way I read it is different.  It has been impossible to miss the buddy buddy relationship between Israel and Syria, both sitting under Turkey’s boot.  It has an army on Syria’s northern border capable of erasing Assad in a day.
Turkey, a key NATO member, angry at Israel for the execution of peace activists on the Mavi Marmara, has vetoed Israel’s participation in NATO air defense systems and any sharing of NATO intelligence.
Israel has to depend on their spies, AIPAC, the ADL, all being exposed in Washington during the Steve Rosen v. AIPAC civil suit.
Rosen, former top Bush advisor arrested by the FBI as an Israeli spy is suing his former employer, AIPAC, the “Israel lobby” because they fired him for….being a spy. His retort?  How can an organization of spies fire someone for being a spy? Good luck Steve!
Cutting more or less to the chase here, the “creator” of this fascinating story about 1973 had one purpose.  He is defending Syria and discrediting Egypt and the United States.

Who is Assange Really Working For?
This is the current policy of Israel.  The odd point of this, theoretically at least, is that our author, who others can name, makes his living as an “anti-zionist” and critic of Israel.
What I see him as is Julian Assange’s Mossad “handler” and someone “tasked” with making Syria seem like a victim.
This is meant to help cement the bonds between Syria and Israel and to help them form a united front against Turkey.  I wish them good luck with that, they will need it.
Let’s take a second to talk about Wikileaks in light of the upcoming STRATFOR email release.  Nothing is as it seems, as most of us know now.
Back in the late summer of 2010, Veterans Today began to discover a pattern in Wikileaks material.  Hidden among the “leaks” were purposefully created fantasies aimed at Iran and Pakistan, clumsy and obvious material that had no other source than an intelligence agency, in this case, Israel’s Mossad.
By December, Zbigniew Brzezinski had come into agreement with our assessment, stating clearly that Wikileaks was a “false flag” intelligence operation.

Zbigniew Brzezinski - Still in Play
From then on, Wikileaks became a fiasco, especially when it was revealed that Israel and the New York Times were picking out the “leaks” themselves, all carefully orchestrated to misinform and mislead, a “Wikileaks” based on lies and censorship, not press freedom.



http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/02/27/wikileaks-and-stratfor-israel-busted-again/

[ponda]

By December, Zbigniew Brzezinski had come into agreement with our assessment, stating clearly that Wikileaks was a “false flag” intelligence operation.

Zbigniew Brzezinski - Still in Play
From then on, Wikileaks became a fiasco, especially when it was revealed that Israel and the New York Times were picking out the “leaks” themselves, all carefully orchestrated to misinform and mislead, a “Wikileaks” based on lies and censorship, not press freedom.

So Gordon Duff believes Brzezinski.........interesting.

brzezinski claiming that WikiLeaks is a false flag intel agency op and that it is a fiasco is an endorsement for WikiLeaks being the real deal imho but time will tell.Interesting few months ahead

[Kimberley]

Ponda GREAT FIND!!! Thank you!!! WOW... like I said this is a huge story and the more eyes watching it the better...

I know that I can not keep up with it fast enough... so therefore I thank all who are interested to post what you feel to post... and I would like to suggest please do not worry about posting the same thing as some one else posts... if the same thing gets posted multiple times it brings more attention to the importance of it...

[jagman]

Hi Kimberley, When will we get to look at supposed UFO emails? Or are they still holding them back?

[Cjay]

Whether wikileaks is disinfo or a psyop is unclear. It is clear that the disinfo/psyops people are using wikileaks for their own agenda. Also, there has been a concerted effort to discredit wikileaks and Julian Assange. Is that a tactic of the disinfo/psyop people? Could be.

What does my gut tell me? Wikileaks and Assange are the real deal and they are being used/manipulated by the ever more desparate NWO/PTW cabal.

[white wizard]

Hi Kimberley, When will we get to look at supposed UFO emails? Or are they still holding them back?

I agree i still believe they are holding back valuable information on UFO's and government cover ups and people need to know

about this.

On another note peoples claim wiki leaks is connected to dis info considering most info they put out has been

proven correct is b.s.. Wiki exposing all these corporations and contractors in no way helps the dark cabal who rely

on them to maintain control unless they were trying to create there own downfall of course which would be awesome

:peace:

[bluestflame]

as julian mentioned or alluded to himself in the past the ufo issue would be a distraction ...

[jackovesk]

By December, Zbigniew Brzezinski had come into agreement with our assessment, stating clearly that Wikileaks was a “false flag” intelligence operation.

Zbigniew Brzezinski - Still in Play
From then on, Wikileaks became a fiasco, especially when it was revealed that Israel and the New York Times were picking out the “leaks” themselves, all carefully orchestrated to misinform and mislead, a “Wikileaks” based on lies and censorship, not press freedom.

So Gordon Duff believes Brzezinski.........interesting.

brzezinski claiming that WikiLeaks is a false flag intel agency op and that it is a fiasco is an endorsement for WikiLeaks being the real deal imho but time will tell.Interesting few months ahead

Then there's this one coming from Brzezinski...:pound:

Brzezinksi says US will not support Israel if it attacks Iran


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMNUzKEjGiM&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMNUzKEjGiM&feature=player_embedded

I mean really folks - get a grip..! :faint:

The US Govt. = The Israeli Govt. and (Vice-Versa)..!

[ljwheat]

“Warning” this video is very graphic in human death and suffering, at the hand of the US and Britain war machine. This is background leading up to Wikileaks beginnings and history on why we need this organization, skip ahead to 1:15.00 on the scroll bar for wikileaks portion. All though the lead up to this section of the video is given IMO more weight and stature. The Big Picture and Wikileaks arrival at this Jung sure in our history.

Kw77FJNL8dU

[ponda]

Time for government to stand ground and protect Assange

Jennifer Robinson
March 1, 2012
OPINION


WikiLeaks's latest release of confidential emails obtained from the US private intelligence firm Stratfor indicate the US Department of Justice has issued a secret, sealed indictment against Julian Assange. While the Department of Justice has refused to confirm the existence of the Assange indictment - it refuses to comment upon any alleged sealed indictment - the Stratfor email is the best confirmation we have of the long-stated concerns about the risk of Assange's extradition to the US to face criminal prosecution for his publishing activities with WikiLeaks.

The email was from Fred Burton, Stratfor's vice-president for counterterrorism and corporate security, and former deputy chief of the Department of State's counterterrorism division for the Diplomatic Security Service. On Australia Day last year, Burton revealed in internal Stratfor correspondence: ''Not for Pub - We have a sealed indictment on Assange. Pls protect.''

Following the announcement by the US Attorney-General, Eric Holder, of criminal investigation into Assange in December 2010, the US government has refused to give further comment on its plans to prosecute him. The grand jury is secret. Our appeals to military courts for access to the Bradley Manning proceedings were denied. The Australian government has consistently claimed to have no information from the US as to whether they will prosecute Assange and seek his extradition.


"Indicting Assange represents a dramatic assault on the First Amendment, journalists and the public right to know."

The question we must now ask: if a Texas private intelligence firm knew of the sealed indictment for more than a year - why doesn't our government? Did the government know? Was its denial of knowledge dishonest?

It is rather ironic, and an embarrassing indictment of the US-Australia alliance, if the Australian government learnt this information, as we have, through a WikiLeaks release. Indicting Assange represents a dramatic assault on the First Amendment, journalists and the public right to know. Assange, recently awarded the Walkley Award for most outstanding contribution to journalism, faces criminal prosecution - marking the first time a journalist has been prosecuted for allegedly receiving and publishing ''classified'' documents.

The Australian government must rectify the damage to its international reputation by our failure so far to acknowledge - and protect - our most celebrated journalist and be mindful of the impact it will have on free speech in Australia and around the world. The Prime Minster, Julia Gillard, has bent to US pressure on WikiLeaks and wrongfully accused an Australian citizen of illegal conduct, and the former attorney-general Robert McClelland pondered cancelling Assange's passport but Kevin Rudd, as foreign minister, told the pair to back off. He may be on the backbench now, but Rudd was right.



The correct legal analysis, provided by other lawyers in Parliament, Malcolm Turnbull and the shadow attorney-general George Brandis, SC, is that publication of classified material of foreign powers - even friendly ones - is not a crime in Australia; nor is it a crime in the US. That is also the legal advice of the Australian Federal Police, who concluded Assange had committed no crime here. Prominent academics in the US agree Assange is entitled to the protections of the First Amendment.

But any constitutional challenge for Assange will come years down the track. The Stratfor emails disclose a strategy: ''move him from country to country to face various charges for the next 25 years'' and ''[bankrupt] the asshole first … ruin his life. Give him 7-12 years for conspiracy''.

What happens to Assange in the US in the meantime? We need only look to the treatment of WikiLeaks's alleged source, Manning, who has been kept in degrading conditions, including solitary confinement, for more than 18 months pending trial. According to Burton, in another Stratfor email disclosed yesterday: ''Assange is going to make a nice bride in prison. Screw the terrorist. He'll be eating cat food forever.''

The Australian government must learn from its mistakes in the David Hicks case and act now. Assange is an Australian citizen and we must protect him, and protect our country from international condemnation for our failure to act, knowing the treatment Assange will receive in the US.

National sovereignty and the protection of Australians abroad have so far been sacrificed to US interests in this case. A real friend of the US will, at times, criticise, as all friends must. Australia must ask serious questions of the US about its plans to prosecute Assange. Australia should exercise diplomatic protection and seek undertakings regarding his treatment. Assange deserves the protection any of us as Australian citizens deserve. What if it were your son or brother or friend? Would you feel satisfied with our government's response?

In the case of Schapelle Corby, the former attorney-general Philip Ruddock sent senior lawyers to Indonesia on our government's behalf to arrange her defence. They said, ''the fact is, she is an Australian national in trouble overseas, and the consequences are extremely severe, so there just wasn't any hesitation''. Assange is surely as worthy of our protection as the ''Bali boy'' who, having admitted drug possession, received a phone call from Ms Gillard and the highest level of consular assistance. Assange has not received anywhere near that support. Quite the opposite.

Whether or not the government knew before, it certainly knows now. The Prime Minister, the Attorney-General and the new foreign minister must take action. Nicola Roxon, the Attorney-General, campaigned hard in opposition to bring Hicks home, urging the Howard government ''to take urgent action to protect this Australian citizen they have so far neglected for such a long period of time''. She has so far remained silent. But if she can go into bat for Hicks, she can go into bat for Assange. The government must protect Assange, not just because of who he is, but because he is Australian. And, as the Stratfor emails confirm, an Australian is at risk.

Jennifer Robinson is a London-based Australian human rights lawyer who represents Julian Assange and WikiLeaks.



source with plenty of comments: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/time-for-government-to-stand-ground-and-protect-assange-20120229-1u3cn.html

[Anam Cara]

Posted on Mar 1, 2012

Wikileaks vs. Stratfor: Pursue The Truth, Not Its Messenger

By Amy Goodman

WikiLeaks, the whistle-blower website, has again published a massive trove of documents, this time from a private intelligence firm known as Stratfor. The source of the leak was the hacker group “Anonymous,” which took credit for obtaining more than 5 million emails from Stratfor’s servers. Anonymous obtained the material on Dec. 24, 2011, and provided it to WikiLeaks, which in turn partnered with 25 media organizations globally to analyze the emails and publish them.

Among the emails was a short one-liner that suggested the U.S. government has produced, through a secret grand jury, a sealed indictment against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. In addition to painting a picture of Stratfor as a runaway, rogue private intelligence firm with close ties to government-intelligence agencies serving both corporate and U.S. military clients, the emails support the growing awareness that the Obama administration, far from diverging from the secrecy of the Bush/Cheney era, is obsessed with secrecy, and is aggressively opposed to transparency.

I traveled to London last Independence Day weekend to interview Assange. When I asked him about the grand-jury investigation, he responded: “There is no judge, there is no defense counsel, and there are four prosecutors. So, that is why people that are familiar with grand-jury inquiries in the United States say that a grand jury would not only indict a ham sandwich, it would indict the ham and the sandwich.”

As I left London, The Guardian newspaper exposed more of Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. phone-hacking scandal, which prompted the closing of his tabloid newspaper, the largest circulation Sunday newspaper in the U.K., News of the World. The coincidence is relevant, as News of the World reported anything but what its title claimed, focusing instead on salacious details of the private lives of celebrities, sensational crimes, and photos of scantily clad women. For this and his other endeavors, Murdoch amassed a reported personal fortune of $7.6 billion.

Meanwhile, Assange—who, like Murdoch, was born in Australia (Murdoch abandoned his nationality for U.S. citizenship in order to purchase more U.S. broadcast licenses)—had engaged in one of largest and most courageous acts of publishing in history by founding wikileaks.org, which allows people to safely and securely deliver documents using the Internet in ways that make it almost impossible to trace. He and his colleagues at WikiLeaks had published millions of leaked documents, most notably about the U.S. wars and occupations in Iraq and Afghanistan, and thousands of U.S. diplomatic cables, true “news of the world.” The Sydney Peace Foundation awarded Assange a gold medal for “exceptional courage and initiative in pursuit of human rights.” In contrast, the U.S. government targeted him, possibly under the Espionage Act. Murdoch is hailed as a pioneering newsman, while pundits on Murdoch-owned cable-television outlets openly call for Assange’s murder.


The Stratfor emails will be released over time, along with context provided by WikiLeaks’ media partners. Already revealed by the documents are the close, and potentially illegal, connections between Stratfor employees and government-intelligence and law-enforcement officials. Rolling Stone magazine reports that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security was monitoring Occupy Wall Street protests nationally, and the Texas Department of Public Safety has an undercover agent at Occupy Austin who was disclosing information to contacts at Stratfor. Stratfor also is hired by multinational corporations to glean “intelligence” about critics. Among companies using Stratfor were Dow Chemical, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and Coca-Cola.

Fred Burton, Stratfor’s vice president of intelligence, and a former head of counterintelligence at the U.S. State Department’s diplomatic corps, wrote in an email, “Not for Pub—We have a sealed indictment on Assange. Pls protect.” Burton and others at Stratfor showed intense interest in WikiLeaks starting in 2010, showing intense dislike for Assange personally. Burton wrote: “Assange is going to make a nice bride in prison. Screw the terrorist. He’ll be eating cat food forever.” Another Stratfor employee wanted Assange waterboarded.

Michael Ratner, legal adviser to Assange and WikiLeaks, told me, “The Obama administration has gone after six people under the Espionage Act. That’s more cases than happened since the Espionage Act was actually begun in 1917. ... What this is about is the United States wanting to suppress the truth.”

1917 is also the year when U.S. Sen. Hiram Johnson famously said, “The first casualty when war comes is truth.” The White House is holding a gala dinner this week, honoring Iraq War veterans. Bradley Manning is an Iraq War vet who won’t be there. He is being court-martialed, facing life in prison or possibly death, for allegedly releasing thousands of military and diplomatic documents to WikiLeaks revealing the casualties of war. President Barack Obama would better serve the country by also honoring Assange and Manning.

We should pursue the truth, not its messengers.


Denis Moynihan contributed research to this column.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/wikileaks_vs_stratfor_pursue_the_truth_not_its_messenger_20120301/

[Jay]

This link showing trending useful..(enter wikileaks) http://monitter.com/
http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/releasedate/2012-03-01.html

[TargeT]

Whether wikileaks is disinfo or a psyop is unclear. It is clear that the disinfo/psyops people are using wikileaks for their own agenda. Also, there has been a concerted effort to discredit wikileaks and Julian Assange. Is that a tactic of the disinfo/psyop people? Could be.

What does my gut tell me? Wikileaks and Assange are the real deal and they are being used/manipulated by the ever more desparate NWO/PTW cabal.

Assange himself, do some research there.. (hell toss Zukerberg in there too... yeah thats right facebook addicts...) it doesn't take much digging to turn up questions that cannot be ignored.

The attempts to discredit are pathetic, clumbsy and meant to draw even MORE of the "anti-corporate/government/establishment" people to the site.. which is exactly the audience they want reading this (apparently slopy) propiganda.

This highlights the level of deception that is inplay currently & in itself is more useful than anything wikileaks has "leaked" (all of which has supported the move for a NWO if you read it with the big picture in mind, ESPECIALLY this current stuff)

[ponda]

TargetT said:

This highlights the level of deception that is inplay currently & in itself is more useful than anything wikileaks has "leaked" (all of which has supported the move for a NWO if you read it with the big picture in mind, ESPECIALLY this current stuff)


That is just one interpretation of what has happened so far.Another interpretation might be that some of the curtain is being pulled back for the wider population to look at and become aware of.To me it looks more of an exposure of their NWO plans than support of them.

By taking an anti-Wikileaks stance one has to automatically ignore and downplay the presented information by default.The message is more important than the messenger.Also no one has presented any proof that Wikileaks is a mossad etc controlled op.It's all pure conjecture and speculation.

There is a big game going on here.The powers that were are walking a tightrope in my opinion and the wind is starting to pick up.I suspect that Wikileaks already has several cards up their sleeve for the possible/probable extradition of Julian Assange to Sweden and then almost certainly onto the US.Once they get him into the US they will try to shut him up and make an example of him aka Bradley Manning but by doing so they might be taking a huge risk of making a martyr out of him and then having to face more releases of more damaging information and there is also the real chance that more insiders will start to come forward etc.

Just my grain of salt opinion

[Anam Cara]

"I understood that the significance of what we were doing was greater than WikiLeaks as an institution and greater than our personal lives. In November, I told our people, perhaps to their surprise, that what we were doing was more significant than the life of any one of us. To that degree, the battles that we've had, the severity of the battles that we've had, is not something I have found to be difficult to deal with. Their severity is a reflection of the quality and importance of our work..."

Julian Assange, Rolling Stone Interview, Jan.23, 2012

[Anam Cara]

TargetT said:

This highlights the level of deception that is inplay currently & in itself is more useful than anything wikileaks has "leaked" (all of which has supported the move for a NWO if you read it with the big picture in mind, ESPECIALLY this current stuff)


That is just one interpretation of what has happened so far.Another interpretation might be that some of the curtain is being pulled back for the wider population to look at and become aware of.To me it looks more of an exposure of their NWO plans than support of them.

By taking an anti-Wikileaks stance one has to automatically ignore and downplay the presented information by default.The message is more important than the messenger.Also no one has presented any proof that Wikileaks is a mossad etc controlled op.It's all pure conjecture and speculation.

There is a big game going on here.The powers that were are walking a tightrope in my opinion and the wind is starting to pick up.I suspect that Wikileaks already has several cards up their sleeve for the possible/probable extradition of Julian Assange to Sweden and then almost certainly onto the US.Once they get him into the US they will try to shut him up and make an example of him aka Bradley Manning but by doing so they might be taking a huge risk of making a martyr out of him and then having to face more releases of more damaging information and there is also the real chance that more insiders will start to come forward etc.

Just my grain of salt opinion

It's interesting to see also, how hard a number of governments are trying to push through legislation to censor the internet. Do you think it's their attempt at damage control?

[TargeT]

That is just one interpretation of what has happened so far.Another interpretation might be that some of the curtain is being pulled back for the wider population to look at and become aware of.To me it looks more of an exposure of their NWO plans than support of them.

By taking an anti-Wikileaks stance one has to automatically ignore and downplay the presented information by default.The message is more important than the messenger.Also no one has presented any proof that Wikileaks is a mossad etc controlled op.It's all pure conjecture and speculation.

haha, no, I don't have to automatically do anything, I don't have to absolutely commit to any statement you think I make, I am commiting to the statements I make (and the "stances" behind them)

I lived through what was "leaked" and I'll tell you this: it was NOTHING compared to what I could TELL YOU and show you VIDEO of (from my ****ty little cannon camera) I have a higher clearance than "Bradley Manning" ever did and know the SIPRNET backwards and forwards; what was leaked was slopy, controlled & a deliberate agenda push...

I don't have to speculate on this subject because I was actually in the middle east and saw first hand the sort of things going on. (not that that should sway you in anyway & I know it won't, you've already made your mind up)


There is a big game going on here.The powers that were are walking a tightrope in my opinion and the wind is starting to pick up.I suspect that Wikileaks already has several cards up their sleeve for the possible/probable extradition of Julian Assange to Sweden and then almost certainly onto the US.Once they get him into the US they will try to shut him up and make an example of him aka Bradley Manning but by doing so they might be taking a huge risk of making a martyr out of him and then having to face more releases of more damaging information and there is also the real chance that more insiders will start to come forward etc.

Just my grain of salt opinion

what’s with TPTW(the powers that were) are you just one of those positive thinkers? how "were" are they?

name ONE thing that was released by wiki-leaks that does not support a GLOBAL RESTRUCTURING (both financially and governmentally) &/or "more of the same", you see we aren't quite ready to shift into full on "chaos" mode, we need all the currencies to crash first & the US is being damn stubborn about its crash, though I smell the end is soon with the dow recently hitting 13,000 for no reason

Bradley manning’s story was a joke, he was set up to be somewhat of a "martyr"; you see its well known what we have weaknesses for (Fear, Underdogs, easy paths, lack of action... these are all heavily played on) Wiki-leaks isn't done with its propaganda so I can guarantee you that assange will continue to float around always seemingly harassed by "the bad men" (the very same ones that must be vilified for the PROBLEM: REACTION : SOLUTION paradigm to work) this is high drama played perfectly to human weaknesses.

just objectively look at what has been released & tell me what you see.


of course this is also my opinion, though I have based it on a little bit of reality (as a current member of the military industrial complex & OIF/OEF vet)




It's interesting to see also, how hard a number of governments are trying to push through legislation to censor the internet. Do you think it's their attempt at damage control?

The internet being controled is one of the goals of (lets lump it all into) the NWO

what you describe is a part of the favorite tool being used on us:

PROBLEM - REACTION - SOLUTION
To those who don't know what P-R-S (problem-reaction-solution) is, we have provided a synopsis for you to show you how extremely devistating it has been in orchestrating and moving an agenda forward that for a long time has been hidden but is now coming to the surface in massive proportions.
http://www.newsforthesoul.com/icke-2.htm


did you know that "anonomous" has recently declared war on the US government?

What better to "problem" to force the "solution" of clamping down on the internet than that???

we just need a few more actions from "annon" & things like SOPA will seem a JOKE!

[Anam Cara]

Do you think that this news article is related to this latest leaks and another means of "damage" control?


Verisign seizes .com domain registered via foreign Registrar on behalf of US Authorities.

Written by Mark Jeftovic on February 29, 2012 — 42 Comments

Yesterday Forbes broke the news that Canadian Calvin Ayre and partners who operate the Bodog online gambling empire have been indicted in the U.S., and in a blog post Calvin Ayre confirmed that their bodog.com domain had been seized by homeland security. As reported in Forbes (hat tip to The Domains for the cite),

According to the six-page indictment filed by Rosenstein, Ayre worked with Philip, Ferguson and Maloney to supervise an illegal gambling business from June 2005 to January 2012 in violation of Maryland law. The indictment focuses on the movement of funds from accounts outside the U.S., in Switzerland, England, Malta, and Canada, and the hiring of media resellers and advertisers to promote Internet gambling.

“Sports betting is illegal in Maryland, and federal law prohibits bookmakers from flouting that law simply because they are located outside the country,” Rosenstein said in a statement. “Many of the harms that underlie gambling prohibitions are exacerbated when the enterprises operate over the Internet without regulation.”

That is a truly scary quote but we'll emphasize that: "The indictment focuses on the movement of funds outside the U.S." and that you can't just "flout US law" by not being in the US. What also needs to be understood is that the domain bodog.com was registered to via a non-US Registrar, namely Vancouver's domainclip.

So Here's Where It Get's Scary…


No Bodog.com for you!We all know that with some US-based Registrars (*cough* Godaddy *cough*), all it takes is a badge out of a box of crackerjacks and you have the authority to fax in a takedown request which has a good shot at being honoured. We also know that some non-US registrars, it takes a lot more "due process-iness" to get a domain taken down.

But now, none of that matters, because in this case the State of Maryland simply issued a federal warrant was issued in the State of Maryland[1] to .com operator Verisign, (who is headquartered in California) who then duly updated the rootzone for .com with two new NS records for bodog.com which now redirect the domain to the takedown page.

This is exactly the scenario we were worried about when Verisign originally tabled their very troubling takedown proposal. Said proposal was quickly retracted, but here we have the same situation playing out anyway. Granted, this was an actual court order, to Verisign – not a "request" from a governmental or "quasi-governmental" agency as originally proposed.

But at the end of the day what has happened is that US law (in fact, Maryland state law) as been imposed on a .com domain operating outside the USA, which is the subtext we were very worried about when we commented on SOPA. Even though SOPA is currently in limbo, the reality that US law can now be asserted over all domains registered under .com, .net, org, .biz and maybe .info (Afilias is headquartered in Ireland by operates out of the US).

This is no longer a doom-and-gloom theory by some guy in a tin foil hat. It just happened.

The ramifications of this are no less than chilling and every single organization branded or operating under .com, .net, .org, .biz etc needs to ask themselves about their vulnerability to the whims of US federal and state lawmakers (not exactly known their cluefulness nor even-handedness, especially with regard to matters of the internet).
The larger picture: root monopolies and the need to replace ICANN

The .com root will never be opened to a truly competitive bidding process. Verisign has pretty well ensconced themselves into the .com and .net roots indefinitely with built-in price hikes baked into the cake. I recall a conversation I once had with Tucows CEO Elliot Noss, back when they still owned Liberty RMS (which ran the .info registry and later sold to Afilias) – he lamented that if the .com registry bidding process were truly competitive, you would see a registry operator in there doing it for about $2 per domain. At the time the wholesale cost of a .com domain was $6 and is now $7.85 after their latest annual increase which is hard-coded into their contract.

I mention this because a truly competitive bidding process for the registry operator job would bring out both cost competition and stewardship competition: players who would table proposals on just how they would respect the rights of all their stakeholders, not to mention operators who may operate outside the United States.

Where the fsck is ICANN in all of this?

They are nowhere. They are collecting their fees, pushing their agenda of as many possible new-top-level domains and despite the fact that SOPA, ACTA, PIPA et aim directly at the interests of their core stakeholders, for whom they are supposed to be advocates and stewards. ICANN is conspicuous in their absence from the debate, save for a smug and trite abdication of involvement (i.e. "ICANN Doesn't Take Down Websites") – translation: "This isn't our problem".

And therein lies the issue. ICANN needs to make this their problem, because it very much is. If ICANN isn't going to stand up, and vigorously campaign for global stakeholder representation in these matters, than they are not only abdicating any responsibility in the ongoing and escalating crackdown on internet freedom, they are also abdicating their right to govern and oversee it.

They need to be visible, they need to be loud and they need to come down on the right side of these issues or they need to be replaced.

Of course, the replacement of ICANN will never happen. At least not by a non-US entity, which means we are once again headed to the unthinkable place that only crackpots and conspiracy theorists think possible: a fractured internet with competing roots. On the bright side, life will go on, and companies like mine will probably become exceedingly wealthy charging every internet user in the world fees to gain and project visibility across all the myriad internet roots that will someday exist because governments will refuse to approach it co-operatively. The only thing that will remain to be seen is whether we'll be deemed "criminals" for doing so.


http://blog2.easydns.org/2012/02/29/verisign-seizes-com-domain-registered-via-foreign-registrar-on-behalf-of-us-authorities/

[jaybee]

TargetT said:

This highlights the level of deception that is inplay currently & in itself is more useful than anything wikileaks has "leaked" (all of which has supported the move for a NWO if you read it with the big picture in mind, ESPECIALLY this current stuff)


That is just one interpretation of what has happened so far.Another interpretation might be that some of the curtain is being pulled back for the wider population to look at and become aware of.To me it looks more of an exposure of their NWO plans than support of them.

By taking an anti-Wikileaks stance one has to automatically ignore and downplay the presented information by default.The message is more important than the messenger.Also no one has presented any proof that Wikileaks is a mossad etc controlled op.It's all pure conjecture and speculation.

There is a big game going on here.The powers that were are walking a tightrope in my opinion and the wind is starting to pick up.I suspect that Wikileaks already has several cards up their sleeve for the possible/probable extradition of Julian Assange to Sweden and then almost certainly onto the US.Once they get him into the US they will try to shut him up and make an example of him aka Bradley Manning but by doing so they might be taking a huge risk of making a martyr out of him and then having to face more releases of more damaging information and there is also the real chance that more insiders will start to come forward etc.

Just my grain of salt opinion


thankyou ponda....and re bolded above...I would go further and say...it's all pure psyops crap....

Bradley Manning is incarcerated...Julian Assange's liberty and maybe even his life, is threatened....


lest we forget....


5rXPrfnU3G0


Wikileaks has obtained and decrypted this previously unreleased video footage from a US Apache helicopter in 2007. It shows Reuters journalist Namir Noor-Eldeen, driver Saeed Chmagh, and several others as the Apache shoots and kills them in a public square in Eastern Baghdad. They are apparently assumed to be insurgents. After the initial shooting, an unarmed group of adults and children in a minivan arrives on the scene and attempts to transport the wounded. They are fired upon as well. The official statement on this incident initially listed all adults as insurgents and claimed the US military did not know how the deaths ocurred. Wikileaks released this video with transcripts and a package of supporting documents on April 5th 2010 on http://collateralmurder.com


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[Anam Cara]

TargetT said:

This highlights the level of deception that is inplay currently & in itself is more useful than anything wikileaks has "leaked" (all of which has supported the move for a NWO if you read it with the big picture in mind, ESPECIALLY this current stuff)


That is just one interpretation of what has happened so far.Another interpretation might be that some of the curtain is being pulled back for the wider population to look at and become aware of.To me it looks more of an exposure of their NWO plans than support of them.

By taking an anti-Wikileaks stance one has to automatically ignore and downplay the presented information by default.The message is more important than the messenger.Also no one has presented any proof that Wikileaks is a mossad etc controlled op.It's all pure conjecture and speculation.

There is a big game going on here.The powers that were are walking a tightrope in my opinion and the wind is starting to pick up.I suspect that Wikileaks already has several cards up their sleeve for the possible/probable extradition of Julian Assange to Sweden and then almost certainly onto the US.Once they get him into the US they will try to shut him up and make an example of him aka Bradley Manning but by doing so they might be taking a huge risk of making a martyr out of him and then having to face more releases of more damaging information and there is also the real chance that more insiders will start to come forward etc.

Just my grain of salt opinion


I agree there is so much involved with these leaks and related to them as well. Check out something Homeland Security is doing on Social Networking sites which no doubt includes this one and now with the leaks they will have to extend their list considerably.

Official List Of Words Feds Monitor On Social Networking Sites (http://www.activistpost.com/2012/02/official-list-of-words-feds-monitor-on.html)

Department of Homeland Security- National Operations Center - Media Monitoring Capability - Desktop Reference Binder (pdf) (https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/296596/analyst-desktop-binder-redacted.pdf)

[DeDukshyn]

It is now starting to become obvious which corporations the elite hide behind (besides the obvious ones like GE, Halliburton, Monsanto)... ;)

[jaybee]

I agree there is so much involved with these leaks and related to them as well. Check out something Homeland Security is doing on Social Networking sites which no doubt includes this one and now with the leaks they will have to extend their list considerably.

Official List Of Words Feds Monitor On Social Networking Sites

http://www.activistpost.com/2012/02/off ... or-on.html

Here's a link to the Analyst Desktop Binder_REDACTED where you don't have to login to view it:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentclo ... dacted.pdf



At the moment...I'm getting...'page not found' with both of your links, Anam Cara......????

[Anam Cara]

I think Manning may be in a worse situation than Assange. There is still hope for Assange as long as he is not in the US and even though numerous attempts have already been made on his life and still are.(ya, the CIA) His children and ex?wife are in hiding for the numerous threats made to them. His mother is still pretty vocal though. Assange is always being threatened by the Bonniers of Sweden, the Prime Minister of Australia and most definitely the good ol US of A and no doubt countless others. He seems to have much grace(and some very good friends in the right places), to still be alive and we can only hope he holds on to that grace. I guess time will tell. It won't be pretty if anything happens to him for what hacktivists worldwide will do and remember some are skilled enough to play with satellites. Anonymous consists of many levels of skill and they are growing. Those that were recently arrested , were mostly young, and not very seasoned and careless at covering their digital tracks. Ah, we'll see...

[Anam Cara]

jaybee, sorry about that. Try these:

http://www.activistpost.com/2012/02/official-list-of-words-feds-monitor-on.html

Here's a link to the Analyst Desktop Binder_REDACTED where you don't have to login to view it:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentclo ... dacted.pdf

:D

I don't know how long these links will last. Let me know if they work.

[jaybee]

I think Manning may be in a worse situation than Assange. There is still hope for Assange as long as he is not in the US and even though numerous attempts have already been made on his life and still are.(ya, the CIA) His children and ex?wife are in hiding for the numerous threats made to them. His mother is still pretty vocal though. Assange is always being threatened by the Bonniers of Sweden, the Prime Minister of Australia and most definitely the good ol US of A and no doubt countless others. He seems to have much grace(and some very good friends in the right places), to still be alive and we can only hope he holds on to that grace. I guess time will tell. It won't be pretty if anything happens to him for what hacktivists worldwide will do and remember some are skilled enough to play with satellites. Anonymous consists of many levels of skill and they are growing. Those that were recently arrested , were mostly young, and not very seasoned and careless at covering their digital tracks. Ah, we'll see...


I take your point....

and bolded above....if I were Julian Assange's mother...I would be very proud of him, but also very worried for him.

And Bradley Manning......poor guy....he is taking the brunt of it.

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[DeDukshyn]

did you know that "anonomous" has recently declared war on the US government?

What better to "problem" to force the "solution" of clamping down on the internet than that???

we just need a few more actions from "annon" & things like SOPA will seem a JOKE!

Anonymous is already being blamed for things proven false. In Canada on the MSN news website I read an article stating that "Anonymous" had hacked Vic Teows, and spread personal information in retaliation for being a spear-header of the internet censorship proposal for Canada. The next day I read a column in the local newspaper saying that it was a political rival that had done that - with his confession. On another thread here on Avalon we hear of the NSA stating that Anonymous will be responsible for a major power outage in within the next year or two (I wonder by who's crystal ball at the NSA? Is this info possible to know? no. thus it must be some sort of plan), while at the same time NASA is saying we will have power outages in 2013 due to solar flares - which all reminds me of a Hilary C quote (where I believe she was quoting someone else ...) - "Never let a good disaster go to waste!", pin the lie on your government agency - they are getting sloppy in desperation. Prepare for more lies implicating the people who have a chance to make a difference, recognize them, and know better. ;)

[TargeT]

lest we forget....


5rXPrfnU3G0


Wikileaks has obtained and decrypted this previously unreleased video footage from a US Apache helicopter in 2007. It shows Reuters journalist Namir Noor-Eldeen, driver Saeed Chmagh, and several others as the Apache shoots and kills them in a public square in Eastern Baghdad. They are apparently assumed to be insurgents. After the initial shooting, an unarmed group of adults and children in a minivan arrives on the scene and attempts to transport the wounded. They are fired upon as well. The official statement on this incident initially listed all adults as insurgents and claimed the US military did not know how the deaths ocurred. Wikileaks released this video with transcripts and a package of supporting documents on April 5th 2010 on http://collateralmurder.com


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thats kids stuff, nothing at all (comparatively), why not show video of the british SAS dressing up like locals and doing drive by shootings on churches? why wasn't that video put out, this video was just enough to cause the reaction seen above "lest we forget" etc..

our psyche is well known by these people & we will be given convicing material; do you think that nothing has been learned in the DECADES of doing this that they have under their belt?



continue to follow wiki-leaks if you want, but keep an open mind about it & be ready for the eventual crap storm that will come with it... were the wiki-leaks / "bradley manning" material anything to talk about there would be actionable events that follow... NOTHING (really) has happened.

[jaybee]

jaybee, sorry about that. Try these:

http://www.activistpost.com/2012/02/official-list-of-words-feds-monitor-on.html

Here's a link to the Analyst Desktop Binder_REDACTED where you don't have to login to view it:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentclo ... dacted.pdf

:D

I don't know how long these links will last. Let me know if they work.

hiya....no need to be sorry...just letting you know....:)

(I wanted to read them)


at the moment the first one is working for me...but not the second one


cheers.....


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[Anam Cara]

The second link can be accessed from the first article . Or try this it's the link in red on the first article- Analyst Desktop Binder_REDACTED

http://www.scribd.com/doc/82701103/Analyst-Desktop-Binder-REDACTEDAnalyst Desktop Binder_REDACTED

LOL I'm really trying hard to get this to you. Cheers!

[Maia Gabrial]

PRESS RELEASE - STRATFOR EMAILS: US HAS ISSUED SEALED INDICTMENT AGAINST JULIAN ASSANGE

Tuesday 28th February 2012 18:30 GMT Confidential emails obtained from the US private intelligence firm Stratfor show that the United States Government has had a secret indictment against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange for more than 12 months. Fred Burton, Stratfor’s Vice-President for Counterterrorism and Corporate Security, is a former Deputy Chief of the Department of State’s (DoS) counterterrorism division for the Diplomatic Security Service (DSS).

http://wikileaks.org/Stratfor-Emails-US-Has-Issued.html


I could "feel' their desperation to get Assange by any means possible. We MUST ask - What do they have to hide that they're so reckless to cover up? They can't hide anything anymore..... Now this is the kind of transparency I like.
When you read some of the comments they've made about what will happen to Assange, it shows how emotionally frightened they've gotten. They've totally lost i! Assange is just exposing these rats and their rat-activities. He's not the one without honor and integrity.
Wow! I can't believe how desparate they are! I'm hoping this goes MORE viral than anything else ever has....!

[Anam Cara]

America: The Best Government the Corporations Can Buy?

http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=18025&title=america--the-best-government-the-corporations-can-buy#

Because it's corporate America they use "non person" status to get away with what they do which has much to do with the effects of these leaks.

[jaybee]

The second link can be accessed from the first article . Or try this it's the link in red on the first article- Analyst Desktop Binder_REDACTED

http://www.scribd.com/doc/82701103/Analyst-Desktop-Binder-REDACTEDAnalyst Desktop Binder_REDACTED

LOL I'm really trying hard to get this to you. Cheers!

thankyou!

Just logged back on to say..the link's working...it's late where I am and I have to go to bed now (1:50 am, for me)...will read it properly tomorrow....:thumb:

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[ThePythonicCow]

At the moment...I'm getting...'page not found' with both of your links, Anam Cara......????
The links in that post, as originally posted, were copied and pasted incorrectly. They did not work.

I just fixed them :). Try them from the original post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41643-New-wikileaks-story-is-huge..I-suggest-if-you-are-interested-to-pay-close-attention--&p=440060&viewfull=1#post440060) again.

[Anam Cara]

I'm still learning the ropes so to speak, thanks Paul. :cool:

[Anam Cara]

did you know that "anonomous" has recently declared war on the US government?

What better to "problem" to force the "solution" of clamping down on the internet than that???

we just need a few more actions from "annon" & things like SOPA will seem a JOKE!

Anonymous is already being blamed for things proven false. In Canada on the MSN news website I read an article stating that "Anonymous" had hacked Vic Teows, and spread personal information in retaliation for being a spear-header of the internet censorship proposal for Canada. The next day I read a column in the local newspaper saying that it was a political rival that had done that - with his confession. On another thread here on Avalon we hear of the NSA stating that Anonymous will be responsible for a major power outage in within the next year or two (I wonder by who's crystal ball at the NSA? Is this info possible to know? no. thus it must be some sort of plan), while at the same time NASA is saying we will have power outages in 2013 due to solar flares - which all reminds me of a Hilary C quote (where I believe she was quoting someone else ...) - "Never let a good disaster go to waste!", pin the lie on your government agency - they are getting sloppy in desperation. Prepare for more lies implicating the people who have a chance to make a difference, recognize them, and know better. ;)

Anonymous is a loose conglomerate of hackers from all over the globe that is growing. These disinfo people haven't comprehended yet, that there is no centralised power with Anonymous and that it's more groups of hackers picking themes and/or projects and that the groups are not always of the same people nor all located in one place most of the time. It's what makes it so difficult to capture them so to speak. The police may get a couple of inexperienced and careless people but they have hardly touched what the whole still does, can and has yet to do. That rumor about taking down the power grid was ridiculous and started by government(American) disifo agents who are not very bright, especially since the internet is critical to the work of hackers, so why would they sabotage themselves? the American gov is frustrated and scared because not much is going according to plan not with all these new surprises popping up to distract and divert them. Governments from around the world are now so utterly driven to impose internet censorship laws and these recent Wikileaks are really pissing them off and they really really really want to get Assange now to use as a scab goat for not being able to get to Anonymous and get info from Assange in any way they can before killing him, and they plan to do that and have been trying since he was first apprehended.

[Anam Cara]

lol And another thing, the US is just iching for another war and these leaks have diverted them somewhat and put them on the defensive to cover up all the coverups.

[DeDukshyn]

lol And another thing, the US is just iching for another war and these leaks have diverted them somewhat and put them on the defensive to cover up all the coverups.

USA needs another war .. must always be in a state of war to consistently be able to utilize clauses of extreme measures created and intended for times of real war ... but we have war on drugs, war on terror, korean, vietnam, afghanistan, blah blah blah ... never a single period where they couldn't claim a "state of war" -- for this reason.

And I agree - they are getting real sloppy, distracted even - too much going on at once where contradictions and hippocracies become more obvious to the discerning. Not just the US but all the self proclaimed plus the less public elite.

[TargeT]

did you know that "anonomous" has recently declared war on the US government?

What better to "problem" to force the "solution" of clamping down on the internet than that???

we just need a few more actions from "annon" & things like SOPA will seem a JOKE!

Anonymous is already being blamed for things proven false. In Canada on the MSN news website I read an article stating that "Anonymous" had hacked Vic Teows, and spread personal information in retaliation for being a spear-header of the internet censorship proposal for Canada. The next day I read a column in the local newspaper saying that it was a political rival that had done that - with his confession. On another thread here on Avalon we hear of the NSA stating that Anonymous will be responsible for a major power outage in within the next year or two (I wonder by who's crystal ball at the NSA? Is this info possible to know? no. thus it must be some sort of plan), while at the same time NASA is saying we will have power outages in 2013 due to solar flares - which all reminds me of a Hilary C quote (where I believe she was quoting someone else ...) - "Never let a good disaster go to waste!", pin the lie on your government agency - they are getting sloppy in desperation. Prepare for more lies implicating the people who have a chance to make a difference, recognize them, and know better. ;)

Anonymous is a loose conglomerate of hackers from all over the globe that is growing. These disinfo people haven't comprehended yet, that there is no centralised power with Anonymous and that it's more groups of hackers picking themes and/or projects and that the groups are not always of the same people nor all located in one place most of the time. It's what makes it so difficult to capture them so to speak. The police may get a couple of inexperienced and careless people but they have hardly touched what the whole still does, can and has yet to do. That rumor about taking down the power grid was ridiculous and started by government(American) disifo agents who are not very bright, especially since the internet is critical to the work of hackers, so why would they sabotage themselves? the American gov is frustrated and scared because not much is going according to plan not with all these new surprises popping up to distract and divert them. Governments from around the world are now so utterly driven to impose internet censorship laws and these recent Wikileaks are really pissing them off and they really really really want to get Assange now to use as a scab goat for not being able to get to Anonymous and get info from Assange in any way they can before killing him, and they plan to do that and have been trying since he was first apprehended.

So they are just like terrorists, the vast, un-named threat that can never truely be "pinned down", something that can be used to justify "patriot act" style laws?

I'm having trouble not putting very sarcastic remarks in just now, so I'll leave it at that.

[Anam Cara]

Speaking of people who have shown how to be real terrorists instead of the imaginative conjectured kind, didn't I tell ya, here are some real ones for you , the US corporate government is trying to push through censorship legislation as we speak and no doubt this has everything to do with Wikileaks and preventing more truth being posted on the web.

Republicans introduce softer cyber security bill

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/02/us-cybersecurity-usa-congress-idUSTRE82024Z20120302

:bounce::bounce:

[Anam Cara]

There is so much going on about the internet now this is about the guy credited for inventing the World Wide Web(he actually did) and a trial over a few people wanting to cash in on websites by making them pay for use of the WWW for their websites because he(and a couple of other troll friends) are claimimg to of invented the WWW . Tim Berners-Lee is who invented the WWW and he gave us the web for free so this other guy can't claim patented ownership of it or we hope not anyway. And yes, it's related to Wikileaks and the truth. This is getting crazier and crazier.

Tim Berners-Lee Takes the Stand to Keep the Web Free

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/02/tim-berners-lee-patent/

the guy claiming to of invented the web is a known patent troll...

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/02/patent-troll-trial/

[Anam Cara]

2011-03-04 Jennifer Robinson: Brief to Canberra meeting of MP's re Julian Assange

The following brief was submitted to the meeting outlined here by WL Central: On 2nd March 2011 at 9.15am a meeting was held, organised by Andrew Laming (Liberal Party MP Bowman Qld) at Parliament House Canberra to allow federal parliamentarians who wished to attend, some insights into the matters of Julian Assange facing extradition from the UK to Sweden, and facing (subject to that extradition process) a possible trial in Sweden and another possible extradition to the USA thereafter.

Among others, MPs Andrew Laming, Malcolm Turnbull, Doug Cameron and Sarah Hanson-Young were in attendance, along with parliamentary staff members.

Three speakers made themselves available for oral presentations and questions: Greg Barns, barrister from Tasmania; former Australian diplomat Tony Kevin and Peter Kemp solicitor from NSW, the latter two made written material available for the parliamentarians reprinted here with their permission.

The following brief was submitted to the meeting by Jennifer Robinson of the firm Finers Stephens Innocent. She is part of the legal team representing Julian Assange in the extradition proceedings requested by Sweden.

more... http://wlcentral.org/node/1418

[Anam Cara]

Wikileaks Stratfor Emails Devastating


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRA7WT66RIQ&feature=youtu.be

[Referee]

Wikileaks Stratfor Emails Devastating

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRA7WT66RIQ&feature=youtu.be

Wow That is a powerfull message. Stratfor had material from Osama Bin Laden's Coumpound.........Jaw dropping!

[ponda]

Wikileaks Stratfor Emails Devastating

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRA7WT66RIQ&feature=youtu.be


Interesting find Anam Cara and there is also more info coming out exposing stratfor's extensive media connections and some more on osama bin laden...


WikiLeaks emails suggest Bin Laden corpse ‘brought to America’


INTERNAL EMAILS in a major global intelligence firm, published by WikiLeaks, suggest that Osama bin Laden’s body may have been brought to America after he was killed by US Navy Seals.

http://www.thejournal.ie/wikileaks-emails-suggest-bin-laden-corpse-brought-to-america-371301-Mar2012/


WikiLeaks exposes Stratfor's secret media allies

Among the 5 million emails and documents leaked by WikiLeaks from the US-based private intelligence firm Stratfor are details of some of its secret media partners. The company’s “Confederation Partners” are spread across four continents.

http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/50187

[modwiz]

''No, there were no hijackers on 9/11, bin Laden died in 2001 and the war on terror is a total con. This is the kind of stuff I am talking about, ideas that are now quite mainstream thanks to the work of loyal and decent Americans''.

Above text obtained here, at Veterans Today, one of the better sources of alternative, real intelligence, news on the web.http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/03/01/weekly-intel-dump-march-1-2012/

[ponda]

TargetT said:

haha, no, I don't have to automatically do anything, I don't have to absolutely commit to any statement you think I make, I am commiting to the statements I make (and the "stances" behind them)

I lived through what was "leaked" and I'll tell you this: it was NOTHING compared to what I could TELL YOU and show you VIDEO of (from my ****ty little cannon camera) I have a higher clearance than "Bradley Manning" ever did and know the SIPRNET backwards and forwards; what was leaked was slopy, controlled & a deliberate agenda push...

I don't have to speculate on this subject because I was actually in the middle east and saw first hand the sort of things going on. (not that that should sway you in anyway & I know it won't, you've already made your mind up)


I'm not surprised that there were a lot more terrible atrocities committed in Iraq if that is what you mean.There is a much bigger picture to all of this than on the ground warfare and no i haven't made up my mind about anything.I try to remain as open minded as possible.


TargetT said:

what’s with TPTW(the powers that were) are you just one of those positive thinkers? how "were" are they?

name ONE thing that was released by wiki-leaks that does not support a GLOBAL RESTRUCTURING (both financially and governmentally) &/or "more of the same", you see we aren't quite ready to shift into full on "chaos" mode, we need all the currencies to crash first & the US is being damn stubborn about its crash, though I smell the end is soon with the dow recently hitting 13,000 for no reason

Sorry i should of said the powers that never were.They are only tptb if you think they are.At the moment the global consciousness thinks that that they are but that is in the process of changing.Wikileaks may be playing a part in this change of global perspective and awareness.The more people that realize that it is actually they themselves who have the ability to make real change and improve the planet then the influence of the tptnw will fade away.

What one makes of WikiLeaks releases is up to the individual.If you perceive that the releases are all a part of a global restructuring then you may well be right but not in the way that you think.Time will tell.

There may well be a scenario regarding the financial/currency system that avoids a worse case result.The powers that never were don't hold all of the cards.



Bradley manning’s story was a joke, he was set up to be somewhat of a "martyr"; you see its well known what we have weaknesses for (Fear, Underdogs, easy paths, lack of action... these are all heavily played on) Wiki-leaks isn't done with its propaganda so I can guarantee you that assange will continue to float around always seemingly harassed by "the bad men" (the very same ones that must be vilified for the PROBLEM: REACTION : SOLUTION paradigm to work) this is high drama played perfectly to human weaknesses.

just objectively look at what has been released & tell me what you see.


of course this is also my opinion, though I have based it on a little bit of reality (as a current member of the military industrial complex & OIF/OEF vet)


I don't believe that Bradley Manning's story to be a joke at all.I think that he done what he felt was the right thing to do and good on him.

I see that what has been released has opened some peoples eyes to how corrupt and untrustworthy their publicly funded public servants are.How greedy and ruthless the corporations are.How unfair and corrupt the justice/legal system is and how the mainstream media is nothing more than a propaganda arm of the corpocracy that is on its way out.

Cheers TargetT.It's good to have the perspective from someone who has been there and actually seen it.Thankyou

[Maia Gabrial]

America: The Best Government the Corporations Can Buy?

http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/vide...tions-can-buy#

Because it's corporate America they use "non person" status to get away with what they do which has much to do with the effects of these leaks.

But the US IS a corporation! Corporations buy each other out.

[ponda]

Anam Cara said:

It's interesting to see also, how hard a number of governments are trying to push through legislation to censor the internet. Do you think it's their attempt at damage control?


Well my guess is that internet freedom is 'their' biggest weakness.They have been increasingly desperate to filter it and have the ability to shut down whatever websites they deem as an informational threat but they haven't been able to do it.The internet is now so embedded in the global psyche that i would not be surprised that they won't be able to clamp down on it.They will keep trying of course but imho they will fail.

[TargeT]

I see that what has been released has opened some peoples eyes to how corrupt and untrustworthy their publicly funded public servants are.How greedy and ruthless the corporations are.How unfair and corrupt the justice/legal system is and how the mainstream media is nothing more than a propaganda arm of the corpocracy that is on its way out.

Cheers TargetT.It's good to have the perspective from someone who has been there and actually seen it.Thankyou

Now here's where I conflict myself.. I love what wiki-leaks & manning have done for "TV watchers" awareness, but I'm also sort of afraid that the current control structure PLANS on imploding (to replace itself with a "better"(in "their" eyes) one) & to do so you need to build animosity (though controlled and guided) against the current system.

the NWO is real, its been talked about by "these people" publically for years, one world currency also... I'm not talking about fantisy & these "wiki-leak" type orginizations are just supporting the transition (very clearly) in my mind.

I do agree though, & I think a bit of "unintended consquences" are playing in our favor.. the same old tricks aren't working smoothly like they used to (perhaps its the completion of hte 26,000 year cycle) & maybe people will take the extra step beyond what is presented by the main stream media on WIKI-Leaks (et al) and do a little discovery on their own...

(but I don't really see it yet)

btw, I did not mean that what manning (suposedly) did was a joke, I see it more like the "domestic terrorists" that are taught how to make a bomb then busted by the people (US government, FBI usualy) that showed them how to do it & enabled them to do it. ( in other words, the perfect example of PROBLEM : REACTION : SOLUTION)

[Anam Cara]

Stratfor “Source” James Casey Leaves FBI

eg. "From: James Casey
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:39:34 -0400
To:
Subject: Re: WikiLeaks plans ‘major’ announcement within hours as Pentagon
braces for massive Iraq war leak
This is why………..even though the FBI is always the first to be
criticized for not playing nice-nice in the sandbox………….the
concept of “widely sharing of information” is not always a great idea.
For a number of years I have used the very example of “a slick sleeved
private, siting in a tent in Baghdad, looking at thousands of classified
reports on SIPRNET”, as a bad way to business.Even I didn’t think that
was going to be the exact scenario that has played out with this WikiLeaks
fiasco. Maybe everybody at the DNI and DHS who have been pimping the
“share by rule, withhold by exception,” concept for the last nine years
will change their tune a little, and acknowledge that “need to know” is
still a valuable idea.

http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2012/03/01/stratfor-source-james-casey-leaves-fbi/

[Anam Cara]

The Australian’s foreign editor and Labor’s leadership crisis

By Patrick O’Connor
2 March 2012

Last Monday, the day Prime Minister Julia Gillard defeated former foreign minister Kevin Rudd in Labor’s leadership ballot, Murdoch’s Australian published an unusual article by its foreign editor, Greg Sheridan.

An effusive proponent of the US-Australia alliance, Sheridan has intimate connections with the foreign policy and defence establishment in Washington. His article urged the Labor caucus to re-elect Rudd as leader, and raised the former prime minister’s foreign policy record, his relations with Washington, his attitude towards China and his related proposal for a new “Asia Pacific Community.” It also discussed the US response to the 2010 coup that deposed Rudd as prime minister and installed Gillard.

The comment was one of very few media reports to broach any of these issues in the course of the government’s leadership crisis, which was generally presented as nothing more than a clash of rival egos. Many aspects of Sheridan’s article, however, are contradicted by what actually happened during the two and a half years that Rudd was prime minister. The entire column smacks of a cover up of the crucial foreign policy issues underlying the internecine struggle within the Labor government.

The piece, entitled “Gillard is not prime ministerial material and Rudd ought to return”, was fulsome in its praise of Rudd. The former prime minister, Sheridan insisted, “has a profound geostrategic map in his head”, whereas Gillard, on “geostrategic issues, [hasn’t] the faintest schmick of an idea what’s going on.”

Sheridan continued: “All over the world, prime ministers and presidents, foreign ministers and senior officials tell me how valuable they find Rudd. I am not gilding the lily here, and I am certainly not making this up. Senior Americans, across a number of agencies and institutions, look to Rudd for policy advice on China. So do Canadians. And ministers across the Middle East tell me how valuable they find his contributions. Europeans regard him as a first-table interlocutor on important global and regional issues. All through Asia Rudd is seen as a friend who can get things done.”

For good measure, Sheridan added: “Rudd’s vision of an Asia Pacific community, and his brilliant advocacy in Washington, led directly to the US joining the East Asia Summit, an achievement equal to Hawke’s creation of APEC.” He went on: “When Rudd was first deposed as prime minister, senior US officials were aghast they had lost such a good friend, and equally astonished that someone as provincial and narrow as Gillard could become prime minister of a country such as Australia.”

Diplomatic cables sent from the US embassy in Canberra to Washington while Rudd was prime minister, later published by WikiLeaks, paint a very different picture.

more... http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/mar2012/sher-m02.shtml

[ponda]

TargetT said:

Now here's where I conflict myself.. I love what wiki-leaks & manning have done for "TV watchers" awareness, but I'm also sort of afraid that the current control structure PLANS on imploding (to replace itself with a "better"(in "their" eyes) one) & to do so you need to build animosity (though controlled and guided) against the current system.


I honestly think that everything hasn't been going according to plan for 'them'.I wouldn't be surprised that some major and long time planned for events have'nt actually occurred.Why ? I don't know but i think that as more people awaken to what has been going on etc that this has an effect on real time and future events by way of the global consciousness.This is why they keep us dumbed down with propaganda,food and water toxins,electromagnetic pollution etc etc because it dumbs down the global consciousness but this is changing and now 'they' aren't getting everything their own way.So i would guess that as even more people wake up that it will have an even greater effect on what happens in the near future.


TargetT said:

the NWO is real, its been talked about by "these people" publically for years, one world currency also... I'm not talking about fantisy & these "wiki-leak" type orginizations are just supporting the transition (very clearly) in my mind.


Possibly.

I suspect that 'they' will try to take advantage of whatever obstacles come along.If they can't co-opt it then they will try to shut it down or discredit it.But they are up against an unstoppable force imho



I do agree though, & I think a bit of "unintended consquences" are playing in our favor.. the same old tricks aren't working smoothly like they used to (perhaps its the completion of hte 26,000 year cycle) & maybe people will take the extra step beyond what is presented by the main stream media on WIKI-Leaks (et al) and do a little discovery on their own...

Yes i agree.The future is fluid and not as predictable and controllable for 'them' as it used to be.

[Anam Cara]

Stratfor's blatant hypocrisy toward WikiLeaks

It’s no secret that Stratfor hates Julian Assange. On February 27, WikiLeaks began the release of over 5 million emails from the global intelligence company. Within the first 400 or so emails, roughly 70 of them mention WikiLeaks or Assange. The most consistent thing in these emails is a strong hatred for the WikiLeaks founder.


The attacks against Assange come in a wide range, from simple name-calling—“douche,”1 “****ing idiot,”2 “delusional nut”3—to multiple claims that he is a terrorist.4 He is called “anti-American” more than once,5 with one Stratfor analyst claiming that he “hates America more than [Osama bin Laden].”6 While claims of Assange’s anti-Americanism are widespread, they are unfounded, as WikiLeaks does not target specific countries but publishes the material it receives. Assange has also spoken favorably of America’s Founding Fathers and First Amendment. (For a good analysis on this issue see “Debunked: WikiLeaks is Anti-American.”)

Beyond the insults come threats and wishes for harm against Assange. After his arrest in December 2010, Australian ex-Senator Bill O'Chee writes “Hooray!” then comments, “Sadly he didn't have a car accident on the way there.”7 The threats continue: “he needs to be water boarded,”8 “He'll be eating cat food forever,”9 “He needs his head dunked in a full toilet bowl at Gitmo,”10 “tactical nuke solves everything,”11 and so on.

more... http://mmcetera.blogspot.com/2012/03/stratfors-blantant-hypocrisy-against.html

[Anam Cara]

wikileaks @wikileaks now has over 1,400,000 followers! 16 hours ago · reply · retweet · favorite

[Anam Cara]

"All week, WikiLeaks and twenty-five or so media partners have been publishing the “Global Intelligence Files,” over five million emails from the Texas-headquartered “global intelligence company known as Stratfor. The documents show, according to the organization, “Stratfor’s web of informers, pay-off structure, payment-laundering techniques and psychological methods.”

The organization’s press release explains the emails show the “inner workings of a company that fronts as an intelligence publisher, but provides confidential intelligence services to large corporations, such as Bhopal’s Dow Chemical Co., Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and government agencies, including the US Department of Homeland Security, the US Marines and the US Defense Intelligence Agency.”

The emails have showed that Stratfor had an FBI source, who has feeding information to Stratfor about a “sealed indictment” against Julian Assange; Homeland Security produced a report in October of last year on how growing support for the Occupy movement presented a growing threat of violence; a former Goldman Sachs managing director was helping Stratfor to launch a hedge fund that could help the company “trade in a range of geopolitical instruments, particularly government bonds, currencies and the like”; Coca-Cola hired Stratfor to help them monitor PETA activists at the Vancouver Olympics; Dow Chemical hired Stratfor to monitor Bhopal activists and the Yes Men to ensure their profits weren’t hurt by campaigns for justice, since there has been little accountability for the 1984 Union Carbide disaster, which the company is responsible."

http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2012/03/03/live-blog-wikileaks-releases-the-stratfor-emails-day-6/

[jaybee]

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Thanks to WikiLeaks there is now evidence of Dow Chemical paying Stratfor to monitor activists supporting and trying to get justice for the Bhopal victims...


around the 3 minute mark one of the 'Yes Men' (who are satyrical activists) talks about it...


I hadn't heard of the Yes Men before and I think they are brave and brilliant.


Here's when, on the 20th Anniversary of the Bhopal disaster, one of them successfully posed as a Dow Chemical executive in a live BBC television interview.

(other parts on YT site....I watched the whole thing last night and enjoyed it)


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it takes some nerve to do that......

[jaybee]

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The Keiser Report from yesterday discusses WikiLeaks and talks about the double standards about the way the Murdochs are treated and the way Anonymous/Assange is treated, regarding hacking private emails etc...

Also in the second half there's an interview with Andy Bichlbaum...one of the 'Yes Men'


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from video info....


In this episode, Max Keiser and co-host, Stacy Herbert, discuss the Stratfor bimbo, the bank that is in bed with it and Wikileaks as the modern day Gutenberg press. In the second half of the show, Max talks to Andy Bichlbaum of TheYesMen.org about Stratfor, culture jamming and targeting the system's bottom line.

[Corncrake]

Thanks for that Jaybee, I too had never heard of Yes Men before this Wikileaks release. I really enjoy the Keiser Report and this is a particularly good one. Anything that brings the appalling Bhopal disaster to the front of public consciousness again is fine by me. FWIW I am pro Wikileaks which doesn't mean I don't enjoy the lively debates on this forum. On the other hand the power wielded by News International and the scurrilous Murdoch has to be severely restricted.

[Anam Cara]

United States vs. Manning & Assange


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctKqJ-WJs64

[Anam Cara]

Ron Paul on Julian Assange (WikiLeaks)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjap6ELyQ1o&feature=endscreen&NR=1

[Anam Cara]

Anonymous and Wikileaks Reveal Stratfor Emails Shows Spying / Watergate Reloaded ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4v3kw3OkAw

[161803398]

All of this DOES have the quality of a play. I cannot believe how heartless these people are and how little respect for anyone they have. I cannot believe how easily people are manipulated and how stupid we are. I cannot believe how immoral people are and how easily they sell out their principles (assuming they have any). But I keep having this nagging feeling that ...well..all the world is a stage.

But is that because we are all being traumatized. We can't even eat anymore without wondering whether we are being poisoned. We can trust anything anyone says. We see people in the military; the police and the food industry acting in an inhuman way on a daily basis. I can still remember when the world is normal it seemed, at least, that most people had a connection with basic humanity. Now it seems there is a huge percentage of people who have simply gone insane. I know not what to think sometimes.

[161803398]

But there is a good solution to all of this. If the American government or any other government doesn't like what they are seeing in the leaks; why not just stop sticking their noses in other people's governments; use their own goddamn oil; lump it and let other people nationalize their own resources.

[Sirius White]

They are putting on a very elaborate "play" for you all people.

Just realize, you are an infinite spirit -and that this is all merely entertainment for your soul :)

Enjoy the confusion...and the clarity.

[Anam Cara]

All of this DOES have the quality of a play. I cannot believe how heartless these people are and how little respect for anyone they have. I cannot believe how easily people are manipulated and how stupid we are. I cannot believe how immoral people are and how easily they sell out their principles (assuming they have any). But I keep having this nagging feeling that ...well..all the world is a stage.

But is that because we are all being traumatized. We can't even eat anymore without wondering whether we are being poisoned. We can trust anything anyone says. We see people in the military; the police and the food industry acting in an inhuman way on a daily basis. I can still remember when the world is normal it seemed, at least, that most people had a connection with basic humanity. Now it seems there is a huge percentage of people who have simply gone insane. I know not what to think sometimes.

I think it's called waking up and that's a good thing.

[jaybee]

They are putting on a very elaborate "play" for you all people.


One hell of an Opening Scene....don't you think?


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[jaybee]

United States vs. Manning & Assange

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctKqJ-WJs64


thanks for all the links.....this one was very informative on the legal state of play for Bradley Manning and Julian Assange.....cheers

[Anam Cara]

You're very welcome jaybee. I would say more but since I find links from multiple sources and respect that people here can discern for themselves by looking at the links and coming to their own conclusions whether we agree with each other or not,I don't feel a need to say much except, to comment on your reply to Sirius White; Ya, that's one helluva a scene, it turns my stomach to watch it. And it's real. Thank you jaybee for all you share.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

: A Declaration of the Independence of CyberSpace


Governments of the Industrial World, you weary giants of flesh and steel, we come from the Internet, the new home of Mind.

On behalf of the future, we ask you of the past to leave us alone. You are not welcome among us. You have no sovereignty where we gather.

We have no elected government, nor are we likely to have one; therefore we address you with no greater authority than that with which liberty it always speaks. We declare the global social space we are building to be naturally independent of the tyrannies you seek to impose on us. You have no moral right to rule us, nor do you possess any methods of enforcement we have true reason to fear. You are toothless wolves among rams, reminiscing of days when you ruled the hunt, seeking a return of your bygone power.

Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed. You have neither solicited nor received ours. We did not invite you. You do not know us, nor do you know our world. The Internet does not lie within your borders. Do not think that you can build it, as though it were a public construction project. You cannot. It is an act of nature and it grows itself through our collective actions.

We have watched as you remove our rights, one by one, like choice pieces of meat from a still struggling carcass, and we have collectively cried out against these actions of injustice. You have neither usage nor purpose in the place we hold sacred. If you come, you will be given no more and no less power than any other single person has, and your ideas will be given the same consideration anyone else would receive You are neither special, righteous, nor powerful here.

You have not engaged in our great and gathering conversation, nor did you create the wealth of our marketplaces. You do not know our culture, our ethics, or the unwritten codes that already provide our society more order than could be obtained by any of your impositions.

You claim there are problems among us that you need to solve. You use this claim as an excuse to invade our precincts. This claim has been used throughout the centuries by many an invading kingdom, and your claims are no different, nor do they ring any less hollow. Your so called problems do not exist. Where there are real conflicts, where there are wrongs, we will identify them and address them by our means. We are forming our own Social Contract. This governance will arise according to the conditions of our world, not yours.

The Internet consists of transactions, relationships and thought itself; arrayed like a standing wave in the web of our communications. It is the last truly free place in this world, and you seek to destroy even that freedom. Ours is a world that is both everywhere and nowhere, but it is not where bodies live.

more...

http://thehackernews.com/search/label/News

[jaybee]

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there's a steady flow of newly released GI Files being posted on WikiLeaks, Twitter


http://twitter.com/#!/wikileaks


including this one...


http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/887782_-alpha-insight-turkey-syria-az-us-vz-russia-taiwan-erdogan-s.html


snippit from the above link



On Syria - the conversation centered on how far Turkey is actually going
to go. TR325 explained that the Turkish plan is centered on civil war in
Syria. Officially, it's Turkey providing the main training,a rms and
support to FSA. Unofficially, US and TUrkey are doing this together in
deploying SOF for this mission. Notice all the talk in the press now
about civil war breaking out in Syria. This is the narrative Turkey and US
want to build. I pointed out that creating the conditions for civil war -
actual neighborhood to neighborhood fighting - is still pretty difficult
considering that the Alawite forces are still holding together, but he
seemed to think that this can escalate within 2 months time. He also said
without saying that they're working on making that happen. He acknowledges
it'll be messy and it will take a lot of blood and time for a Sunni power
to emerge in syria, but that this is the Turkish obligation.

[Corncrake]

Russia Today has just reported FBI arrests LulzSec, Anonymous members 'betrayed by Stratfor hacker

http://rt.com/news/lulzsec-hacking-brought-down-977/

[Kimberley]

wikileaks

7 Mar 2012
Assange Counts Down To Sweden

By Felicity Hill

The Stratfor emails reveal an alarming disregard for privacy in favour of corporate intelligence. They also set out advice for dealing with Julian Assange that resembles the way he is now being treated

http://newmatilda.com/2012/03/07/assange-counts-down-sweden

[Anam Cara]

The arrogance of Bush was hidden in plain sight. The arrogance of Obama is hidden under a a mind controlled mask of a friendly Messiah/Savior that doesn't quite cut it.

Wednesday, Mar 7, 2012 11:00 AM MST

NSA whistle-blower: Obama “worse than Bush”

Thomas Drake on life inside the National Security Agency and the price of truth telling.

http://media.salon.com/2012/03/Thomas-Drake-image-460x307.jpg

Thomas Drake, the whistle-blower whom the Obama administration tried and failed to prosecute for leaking information about waste, fraud and abuse at the National Security Agency, now works at an Apple store in Maryland. In an interview with Salon, Drake laughed about the time he confronted Attorney General Eric Holder at his store while Holder perused the gadgetry on display with his security detail around him. When Drake started asking Holder questions about his case, America’s chief law enforcement officer turned and fled the store.

But the humor drained away quickly from Drake’s thin and tired face as he recounted his ordeal since 2010 when federal prosecutors charged him with violating the Espionage Act for retaining classified information they believed he would pass on to then Baltimore Sun reporter Siobhan Gorman. While Drake never disclosed classified information, he did pass on unclassified information to Gorman revealing that the NSA had wasted billions of taxpayers’ dollars on Trailblazer, a contractor-heavy intelligence software program that failed to find terrorist threats in the tsunami of digital data the agency was sucking up globally — and sometimes unconstitutionally. While Trailblazer burned through cash, in the process enriching many NSA employees turned contractors, Drake found that another software program named ThinThread had already met the core requirements of a federal acquisition regulation that governed the proposed system at a sliver of the cost, all while protecting American civil liberties at the code level. The NSA leadership, however, had already bet their careers on Trailblazer. So Drake blew the whistle, first to Congress, then to the Department of Defense Inspector General’s Office, and finally, and fatefully, to Gorman.

http://www.salon.com/2012/03/07/nsa_whistle_blower_obama_worse_than_bush/

[Anam Cara]

This is so scewed, WikiLeaks is condemned for showing the truth straight up in revealing various Corporate America emails by their shadow CIA, yet Israel writes a blank check not only on the money but also on the well being of people in the US and elsewhere...

Israel - all life is inferior to us


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XnNFhOi4nw&feature=related

[Anam Cara]

This is from Kerry's Blog and helped me to understand the rumor that Wikileaks supports the Mossad as an undercover operation. The rumor was started by a CIA agent so his intention is rather obvious and bias being that we can see who he works for.

"After Gordon Duff's effort to shift the attention away from Stratfor and emphasizing the possible ties from Wikileaks to Israeli intelligence... these releases are ongoing.

Considering Duff is CIA where does that put one in reference to the truth on whether Wikileaks releases are unaltered? Hard to say. But this much is clear. Duff went out of his way to head off the blow to Stratfor in his recent Veteran's Today article."

Kerry

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/02/27/wikileaks-and-stratfor-israel-busted-again/

http://projectcamelotproductions.com/blog-hp.html

[Anam Cara]

I find this to be very wise and with much insight.

The Enemy Within

A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious.

But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear

~ Cicero Marcus Tullius

[Corncrake]

Interesting take on the Breitbart Obama student video:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100142371/the-breitbart-obama-video-could-be-charged-with-a-tired-subconscious-racism-that-is-so-2008/

[Anam Cara]

http://i.imgur.com/C7qyt.jpg

[Anam Cara]

From a recent release of leaks there are a few emails concerning this topic.

Release Julian Assange: sealed indictment

http://www.wikileaks.org/gifiles/releasedate/2012-02-28-13-julian-assange-sealed-indictment.html

[Anam Cara]

What can I say?

Transcript: Julian Assange on ABC Radio, 9 March 2012

http://mmcetera.blogspot.com/2012/03/transcript-julian-assange-on-abc-radio.html

[jaybee]

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Ron Paul giving his support to patriotic whistleblowers.....



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I can see why Ron Paul is so popular in America and also why there is going to be such a monumental struggle to try and get him into office.


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[Anam Cara]

Perhaps, the more that is publicised over the net constantly about how "illegal" the attempt by Sweden/America for the extradition of Assange the less chance of it happening for the gobal uproar when even more insidious things are brought to light from more emails of Stratfor. Sometimes it only takes a few more viewing this stuff who say "enough" of this corruption and an unstoppable avalanche starts to roll.

"Question from the audience [me]: “Has the Swedish prosecution given reasons why they cannot ask Assange the questions over the phone or some other medium?”

Robertson: “No they have not. There is no doubt that Mr. Assange is willing to answer questions. He waited in Sweden for six weeks waiting to be interrogated [...] He offered to talk to them from Britain by telephone or Skype or by any number of means and the Swedish prosecutor refused [...] The Swedish prosecutor takes the view that when [and if] he returns to Sweden [...] he should not get bail [...] and [that] he should be tried in secret, because in Sweden these cases are tried in secret.” [Gasps from the audience.] “There will be a whole host of other issues, but it’s not particularly germane to the WikiLeaks issues themselves.”

http://www.douglaslucas.com/blog/2012/03/08/law-and-media-seminar-wikileaks-wltex/

[Anam Cara]

Speaking about Africa and China and the US and ....why there is so much terrorism in a good part of Africa and backed by who and why they are allowed to do what they do for so long....

Africa’s top military security expert Eeben Barlow wrote in 2009 that 'the United States lags behind China in their battle for African oil…

US Africom marine weapons trailing to Senegalese commandos Dakar May 5 2009Published in May 23 2009 - republished in March 2012 - --


"Living in South Africa, I watch with morbid fascination at how the US and China are racing to recapture Africa – the US with AFRICOM and China with business development and investment. Africa, despite its many problems, is increasingly becoming of more strategic interest and importance to both the US and China,” writes top African military-security expert Eeben Barlow.
Africom picture May 5 2009: US Marine provides weapons training to Senegalese commandos. Barlow warns that US representatives often know next to nothing about Africa, and thus can do much more harm than good…
Barlow writes: “Whereas the approaches these two nations (China and the USA) are following differ vastly routes, their ultimate aim is the same: control over Africa’s strategic resources – especially oil reserves.”

“The U.S Africa Command (AFRICOM), established in October 2007, is described as being a Unified Combatant Command of the US Department of Defence and is responsible for US military operations and military relations with 53 African nations. This overtly aggressive entrance into Africa has been criticised by many African governments.”

more http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2009/05/usa-china-locked-in-grim-battle-over.html

[Anam Cara]

Soooo....it's not only the US and China interested in African oil Sweden too has a smarmy past with Africa and oil as well. Here's a 102 page document for those with the interest and patience to read this or scim it . Sweden's squeaky clean image is somewhat tarnished for all the devious behind the scenes corruption the corporate rich there are responsible for.

http://www.ecosonline.org/reports/2010/UNPAID_DEBT_fullreportweb.pdf #svpol #lundin

[Anam Cara]

Colum Kenny: We need global treaties to match world realities

Considerations of jurisdiction and criminality are unclear in cyberspace, writes Colum Kenny


Sunday March 11 2012

You cAN commit a crime in the US without ever leaving Ireland. And you could find yourself being airlifted to America, shackled and jailed for it.

Two Irish students, Donncha O Cearbhaill and Darren Martyn, were last week indicted in their absence in New York for crimes of hacking that they allegedly committed while sitting at computers in Ireland. They are being depicted as players in an informal network of anonymous hackers who target global commercial and political interests "for a laugh". The two, from Offaly and Galway respectively, now face the prospect of possible arrest and deportation to the United States, with no trial of the full facts here and with bail denied there. They could serve 10 years in a US prison.

Their cases raise serious questions for anyone using a computer in Ireland for purposes that may be illegal elsewhere. And they pose a problem for Irish courts. Earlier this month, the Irish Supreme Court refused to extradite Ian Bailey to France partly because the crime in connection with which the French wish to question him was not committed in France.

If O Cearbhaill and Martyn did commit a crime, on which side of the Atlantic was it committed if they never left their Irish computer terminals? The Americans claim that the two students hacked a system ultimately based in the USA (even if that fact was not always obvious) and that they should be tried and jailed there.

A number of people have been controversially removed from Britain to the United States in recent years, under the 2003 US-UK Extradition Treaty. Just last week, a 65-year-old English businessman, Chris Tappin, was flown from London to Texas on charges of selling batteries to Iran for military use in contravention of US law. He found himself chained hand and foot in a US court that refused him bail.

Even more controversial has been the case of Londoner Garry McKinnon, who has Asperger Syndrome and who claims that he was merely searching for evidence of UFOs from outer space when, in 2002, he hacked into Nasa and Pentagon computers. He has been fighting extradition ever since, demanding the right to be tried in Britain, where any sentence is likely to be shorter than in the US and where the prison regime would be less tough on him.

British Prime Minister David Cameron last week said his government would undertake a "proper, sober, thoughtful review" of the US-UK extradition treaty.

The charges against McKinnon and the Irish students blow apart any fiction that the internet or cyberspace is a realm beyond regulation or control. Every site is ultimately located somewhere, and not always where you think. Global treaties are now needed to match global realities and to protect copyright, privacy or other legitimate interests in ways that are compatible with the rights of the individual and of democratic states.

One of the charges against the two Irish students indicted last week relates to a Fine Gael website, which it turns out was hosted on an American server. This gives US authorities a foothold in prosecuting Irish people in that jurisdiction.

Other reported charges against those indicted in New York last week are more serious, involving the commercial interests of services such as Visa, MasterCard and PayPal that were allegedly targeted because they refused to process payments to Wikileaks following Julian Assange's decision to release US military data on that site. Fox Broadcasting too was targeted.

O Cearbhaill is also said to have accessed at least one garda email, with the US angle being that this allegedly allowed him to hack a call between the gardai and US authorities.

Irish extradition law currently appears to be more conservative than that in the United Kingdom. In the absence of a treaty similar to that with London, US authorities may find it more difficult to get their way here than they have in a number of British cases.

For one thing, under existing guidelines, an Irish person will only be surrendered to the requesting country if the person is definitely being put on trial. This proved crucial in the recent attempts by France to extradite Ian Bailey, when the Irish Supreme Court decided that a decision to charge someone with an offence is not the same as a decision to try that person.

It is further necessary for French, US or other authorities to establish that the offence of which the wanted person is accused is also an offence under Irish law. The test of dual criminality is whether or not the acts constituting the conduct of the accused would have been criminal if committed here.

But if that turns out to be the case, the court must then decide where the offence itself was actually committed. This is a complex question in the age of the internet when online services are accessed in one country but reach your computer from or through a range of other states.

And if an Irish judge finds that an alleged offence has seemingly been committed here as well as in another country, he or she may insist that any possible trial takes place in Ireland. This happened in the recent High Court decision to refuse the extradition of Sean Garland, 78, to the USA for allegedly conspiring with Russians and North Koreans to circulate counterfeit dollars.

The prospect of being snatched from your home and rendered abroad to face charges in a foreign country is clearly problematic, not least where some of those countries have legal and political systems very different from those of Ireland.

And while the United States has many similarities to Ireland, its legal and prison systems can be much tougher than those in Europe. It may also deem some actions criminal that are legitimate elsewhere, not least in respect to carrying on business with states that the US had deemed unacceptable trading partners for various reasons.

And this raises the question of how amenable the United States is to reciprocal arrangements. In his judgement in the Supreme Court in Ian Bailey's case, Judge Adrian Hardiman expressed the opinion that it was "more than doubtful that France would deliver a person to Ireland if the situation were reversed".

The US itself has demonstrated resistance to the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court, objecting to the exposure of nationals of non-party states to its rule and insisting that its jurisdiction should be secondary to national jurisdictions.

If Donncha O Cearbhaill and Darren Martyn do ever see the inside of a US court, their appearance there is likely to have been preceded by a long and complex legal wrangle here about the right of US authorities to take them to America.

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/colum-kenny/colum-kenny-we-need-global-treaties-to-match-world-realities-3046239.html

[Anam Cara]

Here's another article questioning extradition to America and brings up good points about defining the rules so that they don't favor America with all its ridiculous dictorial and tyyrannical laws. It seems the corporate American gov feels that it rules the world. Annie Machon puts it differently then me and not quite as bluntly.

The Extradition Farce - why the delay in reform?

Outrage continues to swell about the peremptory extradition of British citizens to face trial on tenuous charges abroad.

Thanks to the tireless campaigning of distraught family members, a growing anger in the UK press, and indignant questions and debates in Parliament - even our somnambulant MPs have roused themselves to state that Something Must be Done - the Extradition Act 2003 is now centre stage, and reform of the law will no doubt occur at some point.

As there is a growing consensus, why the delay? I have a theory, but first let's review some of the most troubling recent cases.

Janis_SharpThe case that really brought the issue to widespread public attention is the decade-long extradition battle of Gary McKinnon. With this sword of Damocles hanging over his head for so long, poor Gary has already effectively served a 10-year sentence, uncertain of his future and unable to work in his chosen profession. Thanks to the indefatigable campaigning of his mother, Janis Sharp, his case has received widespread support from the media and politicians alike.

Despite this the Home Secretary, Theresa May (who has recently been working so hard in Jordan to protect the rights of Abu Qatada), has dragged her feet abominably over making a decision about whether Gary should be extradited to the US to face a possible 70-year prison sentence - even though the UK investigation into his alleged crime was abandoned way back in 2002.

Julia_and Richard_OdwyerThen there is the more recent case of student Richard O'Dwyer, wanted in the US even though he lives in the UK and has broken no British laws. He is facing a 10 year maximum security sentence if extradited. Once again, his mother, Julia, is tirelessly fighting and campaigning for her son.

Most recently, Chris Tappin, a retired businessman and golf club president, has been shipped off to a Texas high security penitentiary following what sounds like a US entrapment operation (a technique not legally admissable in UK courts), and faces a 35 year sentence if convicted.

Chris_and_Elaine_TappinDespite having turned himself in, this elderly gent, who walks with the aid of a cane, is considered such a flight risk that he was last week denied bail. Once again, his wife Elaine has come out fighting.

My heart goes out to all these women, and I salute their tenacity and bravery. I remember living through a similar, if mercifully briefer, four months back in 1998 when the UK government tried and failed to extradite David Shayler from France to the UK to stand trial for a breach of the OSA. I remember with crystal clarity the shock of the arrest, the fear when he disappeared into a foreign legal system without trace, the anguish about his life in an alien prison.

Sunday_Times_Paris_98And I remember the frightening moment when I realised I had to step up and fight for him - the legal case, dealing with MPs and the endless media work, including the terror of live TV interviews. And all this when you are worried sick about the fate of a loved one. Shall I just say it was a steep learning curve?

In the wake of the recent extradition cases, there have been questions in Parliament, motions, debates, reviews (Download Review), and there is an ongoing push for an urgent need for reform. And no doubt this will come, in time.

So why the delay? Why not change the law now, and prevent McKinnon, O'Dywer and many others being sacrificed on the American legal altar - the concept of "judicial rendition", as I have mentioned before.

Well, I have a theory, one derived from personal experience. The British media - most notably the Daily Mail - inveigh against the unilateral extradition of UK citizens to the USA's brutal prison regime. There is also some concern about extradition to other European jurisdictions - usually on the fringes to the south and east of the continent, regions where the British seem to have a visceral fear of corrupt officials and kangaroo courts.

But what many commentators seem to miss is the crucial legal connection - the extradition arrangements that ensure Brits can be shipped off to the US and many other legal banana republics comparable legal systems to face outrageous sentences are, in fact, embedded within the Extradition Act 2003. This is the act that enshrined the power of the European Arrest Warrant, the the act that was rushed through Parliament in the midst of the post-9/11 terrorism flap.

And, of course, this is the very act that is currently being used and abused to extradite Julian Assange to Sweden merely for police questioning (he has not even been charged with any crime), whence he can be "temporarily surrendered" to the delights of the US judicial process. Hmm, could this possibly be the reason for the delay in reforming the Act?

Assange_Supreme_CourtLet me guess, you think this is beginning to sound a bit tin-foil hat? Surely it is inconceivable that the British politicians and judges would delay righting a flagrant legal wrong that manifestly results in innocent people being unjustly extradited and prosecuted? Surely our government would move swiftly to protect its citizens?

As I mentioned, my theory stems from personal experience. Once again delving into the mists of time, in 1997 David Shayler blew the whistle on the wrongful conviction on terrorist charges of two innocent Palestinian students, Samar Alami and Jawad Botmeh. Their lawyer, the excellent Gareth Peirce, was immediately on the case, but the UK government dragged its heels for a year. Why?

During that time, the UK government tried to have Shayler extradited from France to the UK to stand trial. Government lawyers were confident of victory and delayed a decision on the students' appeal against their convictions until the whistleblower was safely incarcerated in HMP Belmarsh, awaiting trial.

Except it all went wrong, and the French freed Shayler for being manifestly a political whistleblower, which in their legal opinion was not an extradictable offence. Only at that point did the UK government lawyers begin to work with Peirce on the Palestinian case, details of which can be found here.

Christine_AssangeSo my theory is that the UK is dragging its feet about reforming the preposterous Extradition Act until it has Assange safely over in Sweden. However, they may be counting their chickens prematurely - and they should never, ever overlook the determination of the campaigning mother, in this case Christine Assange.

But in the meantime, while the UK continues to prostitute itself to the USA, how many more innocent people will have to suffer unjust and unjustifiable extradition?

http://www.anniemachon.com/annie_machon/2012/03/the-extradition-farce-why-the-delay-in-reform.html

[Anam Cara]

Assange is wanted in Sweden for false trumped up charges of rape and sexual molestation. None of them are true. This is the country they want to extridict him too that lets real perverts get away with it. Look at this. Sweden's judicial system is a joke.

District court 'forgot' child porn crime case

A 34-year-old man under suspicion of aggravated child porn offences after police confiscated 13,000 child porn images from his computer was never called to trial, as the court in southern Sweden forgot about him.

http://www.anniemachon.com/annie_machon/2012/03/the-extradition-farce-why-the-delay-in-reform.html

[TargeT]

Pilger and Assange, The Theatre of the Absurd
Conflict for Profit? Nothing So Innocent!


by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor


I woke up today faced with a John Pilger piece defending Julian Assange. I had heard Pilger speak in Australia, at what was supposed to be a peace conference. I thought the crowd was going to get torches and pitchforks and begin killing Muslims almost immediately.

I was puzzled. There was something enigmatic, more likely something that didn’t pass the ”sniff test” going on here.

Simply put, if Pilger told me the sun was out and it was nice outside, I would get a flashlight and umbrella. Assange was, long ago, exposed as a professional stooge of intelligence agencies.

Then, why would someone try to resurrect him? Do we all forget that two consistent tales Assange stuck with were that 9/11 investigations are a waste of time and that all Muslims are evil. It took us 15 seconds to pick out Assange as publicist for war, an agent provacateur and narcissist. Our first assessment is that he is an unofficial spokesman for Israel’s Mossad.

We were proven right over and over as the months went on.

Frankly, I find Brevik, the madman murder of Norway and Assange interchangeable. Brevik, we are told anyway, is insane, another “lone gunman” with dozens of invisible accomplices as usual. How different is Assange?

He and Murdoch and the aristocracy of liars and manipulators who took the wonderful concept of Wikileaks and turned it inside out, a tool for inserting war mongering tales, hate and prejudice packaged with just enough sugar to fool the blind….
Wikileaks, carefully edited, selected, much invented, censored, twisted and then turned to the use of the mainstream media that it was intended to debunk. It is amazing how liberals and progressives will buy “leaks” that are purely ultra-right wing, obviously fabricated and are invariable racist and pro-war. Assange makes Dick Cheney look like an angel.

Now Assange is a victim again, Pilger, so many others that supposedly spend their lives in utterly useless attempts to defend Palestine. Thus the partnership shows up again, Pilger and Netanyahu’s hero, Assange, hand in hand, the defender of Israeli apartheid joined at the hip with the “glamourboy” antizionist.

Like we aren’t supposed to notice.

When will the Palestinians, so long exploited, come to realize that so many of their friends and supporters were carefully appointed as their spokesmen by those who are murdering them too?

Is the irony too much?

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/03/11/the-theatre-of-the-absurd/

Critical thinking is hard..... but usualy, nothing easy is ever good or with out strings attached.....

[jaybee]

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It is obvious to me that it is Gordon Duff who is the 'professional stooge of intelligence agencies'...

IMO....like Alex Jones his job is to press buttons and appear to be on 'our side'..but ultimately is there to control and mislead.

Mind games.

WikiLeaks is a threat to the establishment that thrives on secrecy.... and Gordon Duff is there to try and counter-act that. To try and turn people against Assange.

Just a minimal amount of critical thinking will tell you that, Target.

The article you have posted.....is.....twaddle.....pure and simple. And exposes Duff, not Assange.


And while we are on the subject....


This is an inteview that John Pilger did with Julian Assange.



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[modwiz]

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It is obvious to me that it is Gordon Duff who is the 'professional stooge of intelligence agencies'...

IMO....like Alex Jones his job is to press buttons and appear to be on 'our side'..but ultimately is there to control and mislead.

Mind games.

WikiLeaks is a threat to the establishment that thrives on secrecy.... and Gordon Duff is there to try and counter-act that. To try and turn people against Assange.

Just a minimal amount of critical thinking will tell you that, Target.

The article you have posted.....is.....twaddle.....pure and simple. And exposes Duff, not Assange.


And while we are on the subject....


This is an inteview that John Pilger did with Julian Assange.



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I take issue with some of Duff's deductions, but not his integrity. Assange has failed the 9/11 test. When one knows what to look for in other matters beside 9/11 it is so obvious who he works for, IMO. The Statfor one was very subtle and showed some real effort at not being obvious and shine the light elsewhere. It is not for me to really try and make points or change minds. Perception shapes reality and we all get what we deserve. If you find some comfort in my being lost in delusion, it is my pleasure to accommodate, in this instance.

[aranuk]

Duff and Assange make a good duo. Who knows but them themselves who is speaking the truth. I don't know. I don't trust Assange.


Stan

[jaybee]

Duff and Assange make a good duo. Who knows but them themselves who is speaking the truth. I don't know. I don't trust Assange.


The PTB, the Establishment, the Status Quo don't trust him either...thats why they are trying to 'get him' and that's why Bradley Manning is in prison and probably will be for the rest of his life.

[jaybee]

I take issue with some of Duff's deductions, but not his integrity.


I've said what I think of him .....and so I must disagree...I don't think he has integrity.

I think he's one to watch out for. Genuine conspiracy forum members are sitting ducks for the like of him...IMO.

But I don't actually think too many people are fooled by him.

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[modwiz]

I take issue with some of Duff's deductions, but not his integrity.


I've said what I think of him .....and so I must disagree...I don't think he has integrity.

I think he's one to watch out for. Genuine conspiracy forum members are sitting ducks for the like of him...IMO.

But I don't actually think too many people are fooled by him.

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It is hard to fool a fool.

[TargeT]

Duff and Assange make a good duo. Who knows but them themselves who is speaking the truth. I don't know. I don't trust Assange.


The PTB, the Establishment, the Status Quo don't trust him either...thats why they are trying to 'get him' and that's why Bradley Manning is in prison and probably will be for the rest of his life.

if this were true why would wiki leaks be covered by the 6 media corporations that feed TV watchers their propaganda?

that is the first (of MANY) redflags for me... and its a HUGE one.

but clearly there is a strongly held belief & I have learned its really pointless to dialogue when that is the case, we all have to find our own path through this mess.

[Anam Cara]

This is from Kerry's Blog and helped me to understand the rumor that Wikileaks supports the Mossad as an undercover operation. The rumor was started by a CIA agent so his intention is rather obvious and bias being that we can see who he works for.

"After Gordon Duff's effort to shift the attention away from Stratfor and emphasizing the possible ties from Wikileaks to Israeli intelligence... these releases are ongoing.

Considering Duff is CIA where does that put one in reference to the truth on whether Wikileaks releases are unaltered? Hard to say. But this much is clear. Duff went out of his way to head off the blow to Stratfor in his recent Veteran's Today article."

Kerry

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/02/27/wikileaks-and-stratfor-israel-busted-again/

http://projectcamelotproductions.com/blog-hp.html


Duff is CIA , being that disqualifies him for what he says about Assange given his bias and prejudiced viewpoint. What is so difficult to understand about this?

[Sirius White]

They are putting on a very elaborate "play" for you all people.


One hell of an Opening Scene....don't you think?


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Very much so, they are "playing" with people's lives.

[geofffxdwg]

Thank you for pointing this out to everyone here.The bottom line is ..... I have never seen anyone or any group or any true enemy of the globalists that receives so much mainstream media coverage.We must ask ourselves why the globalist owned and controlled world mainstream media would give Assange such a forum. Readers' Choice for TIME magazine's 2010 Person of the Year, the 2011 Sydney Peace Foundation gold medal and the 2011 Martha Gellhorn Prize for Journalism.Snorre Valen, a Norwegian parliamentarian, nominated him for the 2011 Nobel Peace Prize.Remember who controls all of these awards and the media sources that plug them.The 2009 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to U.S. President Barack Obama "for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between people." The Norwegian Nobel Committee announced the award on October 9, 2009, citing Obama's promotion of nuclear nonproliferation and a "new climate" in international relations fostered by Obama, especially in reaching out to the Muslim world.
Obama is the fourth U.S. President to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, after Theodore Roosevelt in 1906 and Woodrow Wilson 1919 both of whom received the award during their terms.Then you have Jimmy Carter in 2002, who received the award 21 years after leaving office.We can't forget the great former Vice President Al Gore was a co-winner with the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change in2007.These people are heros.I don't know what the world would do without these great heros and patriots.
In 2010, a European Arrest Warrant was issued for Assange in relation to allegations of rape and sexual assault by two women in Sweden. Assange was arrested and after ten days in Wandsworth prison where he came out with a press release almost every hour on the hour which was broadcasted all over the world by mainstream media.They always mix truths in with the poison while they are setting us up.Its the bait they feed everyone.I have realized something very important.What ever evil agenda they hatch, they always have to make us pay them with our own money to finance our own demise.Think about it.