Submarine "Lawn Darts"

[Mozart]

Good Morning / Afternoon / Evening, Beautiful People of Avalon,

I want to start this thread so that those of you who want to see some EFF'N big changes in our world to happen EFF'N as soon as possible to contribute to those changed by two ways, but not limited to those two, to wit:

1) Pray, meditate and visualize ways for our ETs/EDs buddies to stick those submarine "lawn darts" -- or the equivalent thereof -- into highly-visible lawns, like the White House lawn, or the equivalent thereof.

2) To post your own suggestions as to what kinds of "submarine lawn darts" that you'd like to see in this thread, as well as to send out pastes of this thread out to those in your contacts lists in your emails, as well as on other bulletin boards.


Ok, About Those "Subarmine Lawn Darts"

John Kettler has posted in ...

http://johnkettler.com/

... and ...

http://projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/john_kettler/john_kettler.html

... that an Iranian sub had been dematerialized by our positive ETs/EDs buddies and that those ETs/EDs are debating amongst themselves as to where to stick this "submarine lawn dart" on the planet as a way of breaking this massive lock-hold of the Gordian Knot that the whole world is EFF'N stuck under.

And this act by the ETs/EDs is but one of many dozens of acts that they have done to totally STOP the start of WW III. I have seen several confirmations from several highly-reliable sources that its a fact that our ET buddies really are helping us, so I have NO doubt that those ETs/EDs are actively working very hard to STOP the start of WW III, amongst MANY other things that they are doing to help us humans along and to effect a balanced field of life experiences for all of us, balancing the positive and negative experiences for our world as a whole.

I mean, think about it: what's stopping the EFF'N elites from starting WW III?

What?

If 3-D as we know it was truly isolated and we were left to our own devices, there's nothing on Earth that could possibly stop the elites from starting WW III. Nothing. That war would have already been happening and our Earth would already have been a living hell on Earth that would have been FAR, FAR worse than how things are now.

And yet, despite the stupendous military powers that the elites have amassed, this attempt by them to start WW III simply has failed. Guns have failed to fire in the theaters of war, only to fire just fine when taken to the shooting ranges, then to fail again when aimed at the enemies (Israel and Palestinians ... this has happened several times).

Iranian suicide boats -- 40 of them -- going at kamikaze speeds at ships in the Persian Gulf, only to miraculously vanish in thin air.

And 39+ other incidents of "impossible" and "miraculous" events that prevented the starts of WW III?

How is that possible? How?

I've seen confirmation from several sources that Kettler's published information is accurate as stated in his blog -- in fact, his information understates the levels of intervention by our benevolent ETs/EDs buddies who are intervening to keep our Earth from descending into a horrible hell-hole that it can so easily do, given the sheer firepower that the elites have amassed for themselves in the last 100 years.

Those EFF'N elites have succeeded in maintaining an amazing level of control of the flow of information in our world by creating a stunningly-effective MATRIX grid over most of the areas of the flows of information everywhere, except one place: the Internet.

So despite every attempt to control our Internet and to infuse it with massive loads of mis/disinformation, our Internet is still free and we still are free to share our ideas/thoughts with each other, so it is my intent to use this power of ours to increase the thoughts/ideas/feelings that we have to increase the possibilities of the "lawn darts" to soon manifest into our public awareness.

The KEY ELEMENT of the "lawn dart" idea is to make it so that the damn elites and their mainstream media propaganda mouthpieces CANNOT lie about the "lawn darts", CANNOT suppress the information, CANNOT stop it from going viral, CANNOT spin it away, CANNOT divert attention by misdirection, CANNOT hide it, NO MATTER WHAT.

So it's a given that those "submarine lawn darts" are in possession by our ETs/EDs buddies and that they are actively debating as to where to put them, so ...

... WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE THEM TO PUT THOSE "LAWN DARTS?"


Ideas of Where to Put the "Lawn Darts", or the Equivalent Thereof:

Criteria:

A) Objects need to be placed in high-traffic area with lots of streets all around it; and,

B) Objects need to be placed in areas that don't have too many high-rises, like deep in downtown Manhattan, where they could be obscured by the skyscrapers; and,

C) Objects CANNOT be hidden, covered up or moved by ANY human power, leaving only one sane and logical conclusion: ETs moved them.


The List:

1) Submarine Lawn Darts ~
Stick them in highly public places like the White House, the Pentagon lawn, etc. And who says that there's just one "lawn dart" available? Stick a DOZEN OF THEM all over cities all over the world! Yes?


2) WW II Ships ~
Take them from the SF Bay -- 12 of them -- and stick them all over Washington DC, like the Reflecting Pool, the steps to the Capitol Building, the parking lot of the Pentagon, etc. Stick them in cities all over America, all over the world.


3) Arizona Boneyard Jets ~
Take 5 of those big jumbo jets and park them on top of the Pentagon, one for each section. Take a bunch of those jets and stick them into the courtyard of the Pentagon Building, like bread sticks in a bowl, with their tail-ends sticking way, way out.


4) Costa Concordia ~
Take this shipwreck and put it on the parking lot of the corporate headquarters of Carnival Cruises, Inc. Take that, Carnival, you buggers!


5) Washington Monument ~
Cause the Washington Monument to totally disappear. Gone. EFF'N gone.


I have more ideas, but I don't want this post to get too big, so this is a start and I'd like to see others from around the world to suggest specific places in their respective countries in which to stick those "submarine lawn darts," or the equivalent thereof, in places that are highly public.


Why Do We Need This To Happen?

I've said for many years to my friends that the whole world is stuck in a massive Gordian Knot ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordian_Knot

... and I've long argued that it's our ET buddies who have the power to really slice that knot. Nothing else will do. Not the biggest wars that you can imagine, not the worse economic collapses that you can imagine, not the biggest human event that you can imagine. Not humans.

Look at the Super Bowl half-hour event with Madonna in it, which is arguably the BIGGEST event of human creation in which we all are entrained into a singular focus ... and WTF did they put on? An EFF'N satanic ritual!? WTF?

Simply more mind-control! Sheeeesh! Bugger that! We are more than this, are we not?

Are we slaves? Are we mind-controlled idiots who cannot effect changes in our 3-D space-time reality in which we share?

Or are we soul-infused, multidimensional human beings who exist in bodies whose DNA is derived from our galaxy learning the hard way that we are more powerful than we realize? Are we? What do you think?

So who on Earth has the power to slice through our Gordian Knot Matrix in which we have ensnared ourselves? Who?

And do you seriously think that we humans are alone on this planet and at the mercy of those ruthless bastard elites? Do you seriously think that there's nobody out there to help us out, to protect us, to help us wake up?

I'm NOT saying that we should sit on our asses to let those advanced ETs to "rescue" us, as that is NOT what the ETs want to see; however, I AM saying that we should, WE MUST, do everything that we can do to help ourselves awaken to the point which it becomes more than possible for the ETs to intervene on our behalf -- empowered by our prayers, visualizations and demands -- and start to stick those submarine "lawn darts" everywhere on our behalf where the damn governments CANNOT hide such objects.


So What Can You Do?

1) Post your own ideas/suggestions of what kinds of "lawn darts" that we ought to see and where.

2) Paste this post into your emails and send them everywhere.

3) Visualize, meditate the changes that YOU want to see in our world; Be The Change.

4) Talk, email, blog and connect with as many people as you can about this -- and other -- matrix-breaking ideas and help them to wake the EFF up.


We are NOT alone!

We are more powerful than we realize, so let's act on those powers!

More of us need to wake the EFF up, so get talk'n, blogg'n and sharing!

And ask, visualize and demand that our ET buddies stick those "lawn darts" in ASAP!

The positive ETs themselves have allowed the dark ETs to trade their technology with the dark elites many years ago and the positive ETs could have stopped that, but then that would have prevented the necessary struggles from ensuing in our world that would, in turn, trigger the world-wide awakening that is now underway; furthermore, the negative events in the world are supposed to be incorporated into the genetic codes of 3-D space-time realities elsewhere in our galaxy/universe, so that the conditions that we suffered through would not repeat as badly as they did here.

So the positive ETs had to step aside and wait for a time in which they'd intervene on our behalf and set things right. That time has now arrived and let's do our part to help it along by being PROACTIVE about it by blogging, talking and sharing.

So our struggles were not for naught.

We are awakening, but we need that Alexandrian Sword to slice that EFF'N Gordian Knot NOW! Not later. NOW!

So, please, do your part to help it happen.

Make It SO!

Its 11:11 right now!

[EnergyGardener]

Mozart,

I'm on your team. I started providing requests to hundreds of my friends a week ago for the same; none of them are on Avalon. I attached the following youtube video, which provides a great summary of what is in place, though some may not like the ending:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IFfdOkwyuL0#!

My simple message was to visualize / meditate / pray for the NWO to let go because they now must realize they have accomplished their job / test to humanity, but incurring further damage will unnecessarily make their rehabilitation / karmic duty much longer and difficult.

EnergyGardener

[Mozart]

Energy Gardener ~

I like that handle!

And thank for doing your part of effecting our awakening.

I totally agree that we are DONE with the NWO and that they themselves must let go, lest they incur some nasty-assed karma.

I've joked with many that we need to see the NWO elites be shipped off our planet, butt-assed naked, to a planet that's loaded with man-eating animals, sans their tools, their gold, their weapons ... just their naked-ass butts to save!

And it's my understanding that a number of the upper-level elites HAVE started to vanish from sight, even in sight of those around them. Just vanish -- some to be returned, some to have yet to return.

So it's happening, but we need to take this stuff to a higher level now -- fully PUBLIC and on the news.

[christian]

Of course we are not alone and not the only ones with an interest in a harmonious and peaceful development. Assistance has always been there and won't cease, it will be there as much as necessary and as little as possible, the more done by ourselves, the better.

John Kettler's assessement of the situation is pretty coloured. Iranian suicide boats? If this is true, why would Iran have those? Is Ahmadinejad just a puppet controlled by the same forces as western 'leaders'? Is this a false flag scenario?

In any case, without further speculation about those things, it's surely a good idea to throw some monkey wrenches into the system's gears, let's break the chains, the Gordian Knot, the period of ignorance and slavery :)

[Maia Gabrial]

I love every one of your suggestions, Mozart! Only, I'd recommend ALL of them EVERYWHERE! Put 5 or more lawn darts on the WH lawn. I'm saying litter every lmajor city with them; so that it would take alot of time and effort to remove them.... In the meantime, people will witness it as it's being covered up.... :pound:
I laughed my a** off at your ideas, but I approve wholeheartedly!

[gypsybutterflykiss]

I think they should stick one of those lawn darts in the memorial fountain for the world trade centers. I think it would be a great honor to all those lost that day.

Don't forget to smile at strangers today :)

[EnergyGardener]

I think they should stick one of those lawn darts in the memorial fountain for the world trade centers. I think it would be a great honor to all those lost that day.

Don't forget to smile at strangers today :)

Consider also hanging large banners on all sides on the Freedom Tower (with cables that cannot be disintegrated) stating the truth. I look for others' suggestions to the exact language, but my preference is for it to provide a list of acts the Illuminati have incurred in history, highlighting in larger red letters, the atrocities and number of murders that occurred on 9/11/2001.

[Mozart]

Iranian suicide boats? If this is true, why would Iran have those? Is Ahmadinejad just a puppet controlled by the same forces as western 'leaders'? Is this a false flag scenario?


Chiquetet ~

Thank you for your input, and yes, Iran has those suicide boats because Ahmadinejad is, indeed, a puppet who is controlled by the same damn forces who also control the Western "leaders" ... the very same Khazarian bastards.

Yes, it's an attempt to create false-flag scenario -- not only on Iran's part, but on the part of the US military that chose to put their oldest, funkiest aircraft carrier there in the Persian Gulf -- the USS Enterprise -- that has been deployed to the Persian Gulf under false pretenses with the willing risk of the loss of 5,000+ servicemen to possibly lose their lives in an attack on this ship.

Here's a good article about this:

http://deadlinelive.info/2012/01/29/more-information-on-the-possible-uss-enterprise-false-flag-attack/

And it's absurd to think that Iran would willingly do this sort of attack from a military perspective! Absurd!

This attack on this ship would only invite a massive rain of missiles upon Iran, like what happened with Irag, but Iran has some very serious fire power, especially those SS-N-22, "Sunburn" (Raduga P-270 Moskit) missiles that can sink every single ship in the Persian Gulf, including any and all aircraft carriers, their coterie and the oil tankers.

No military brass worth their salt would willingly put their valuable aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf, no way, no how. But the upper levels of the US military have been invested by the rats of the NWO bastards, but the Oath Keepers are trying to identify them and root them out.

Meanwhile, our ET buddies are putting in double-overtime to stop WW III and they'd really like for us to do our part by spreading the word about this, blogging it, talking about it and helping people to wake the EFF up. Now. Not later. NOW.

[Mozart]

Consider also hanging large banners on all sides on the Freedom Tower (with cables that cannot be disintegrated) stating the truth. I look for others' suggestions to the exact language, but my preference is for it to provide a list of acts the Illuminati have incurred in history, highlighting in larger red letters, the atrocities and number of murders that occurred on 9/11/2001.

Good idea, EnergyGardener ~

Would it be plausible that humans could do this idea? I'm looking for ideas that are so BIG, so IMPOSSIBLE, that humans would look at those things/events to be self-evident that humans could not POSSIBLY do such a thing.

Anything that's plausibly impossible for humans to do ... but that's a piece of cake for ETs to do. Those kinds of ideas.

Something to act as an Alexandrian Sword to slice through this bloody, damn Gordian Knot in which we are ensnared. I want to see that knot sliced NOW. TODAY.

I want our ideas, our thoughts, our prayers, our meditations to reach the levels of SHOUTING out to our ET buddies that:

"YES! PLEASE, ETs, DO THOSE "LAWN DARTS," OR THE EQUIVALENT THEREOF, ON OUR BEHALF!
WE GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO DO IT! WE DESIRE THIS TO HAPPEN!"

Those words are just suggested words; use your own words and put FEELINGS into them; visualize these events happening; demand these event to appear; call them forth!

[Maia Gabrial]

No military brass worth their salt would willingly put their valuable aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf, no way, no how. But the upper levels of the US military have been invested by the rats of the NWO bastards, but the Oath Keepers are trying to identify them and root them out.


Mozart, you just reminded me of a video by this Army veteran who's exposing some of the things he's experienced on active duty. (I forget if he's an Iraq or Afghanistan veteran). He said he couldn't speak for the other services, but the Army he knows pretty well. He mentioned that the upper echelon are Masons. And on their service record books there's an "M" identifying them as Masons. Maybe the good guys should start looking at SRB's to aid them in rooting out the bad guys....
Masons everywhere, I swear....

[humanalien]

One of those lawn darts can be planted right in the center
of New york central park, where everyone and anyone can take
pictures and video of it and get it on you-tube. This would be
verification that john kettlers aliens aren't lying to us....

I had suggested to DreamsInDigital that she should tell the
aliens to move the statue of liberty to another state but she
said that the aliens are to busy to do something like that....

All i know is that we all have heard these stories, many times
before about aliens are here helping us and nothing has ever
become of it. This is why we humans need undeniable proof
that they are here helping us......

[Mozart]

Addendumb ~

Note the "b" added on to "Addendum" . That's me. :rolleyes: I found out after the fact that Google customizes one's searches, hence "lawn darts" was on top of my own search. :wacko:


Ok, Everybody,

I just now googled " submarine lawn darts "...

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=submarine+lawn+darts&pbx=1&oq=submarine+lawn+darts&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=1284l6820l0l7590l22l19l1l2l2l1l416l3906l1.9.7.1.1l22l0&gs_l=hp.3...1284l6820l0l7590l22l19l1l2l2l1l416l3906l1j9j7j1j1l22l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=a68e044ac40f9721&biw=1320&bih=647

... and THIS THREAD was on top of the Google search!

That's exactly what I was hoping for!

Now let's keep on blogging this (LOL, I first typed "blooging"...) and keep on typing in "Lawn Darts", as that would strengthen the searchability of this event for other people to tap into it -- ESPECIALLY ...

... AFTER it happens! Bill's gonna have to upgrade the server for this site if it happens anytime soon! Sorry Bill.

:alien:

[NeverMind]

Submarine "lawn darts"?
Making monuments disappear?
Ships on parking lots?

No such elaborate efforts are necessary.
(Not to mention that they would not necessarily prove anything, because such things are perfectly attainable with illusionist tricks.)

If any ET want to make their presence known, it would suffice to do something or all of the following, which I am assuming such a power should be able to do effortlessly:

- Appear, low and clearly visible, over international waters, not far from land, just out of reach of any individual country's authority;

- Appear simultaneously over various cities, or other places where a significant number of people will be able to see you, all over the world;

- Contact the media and world leaders (they are people, too - they would be impressed :);

- Intercept a few popular TV and radio stations and make an announcement.

(If all this sounds familiar, it's because I've suggested it - twice - in a different thread, but for some reason it didn't generate much agreement. :-))

[Mozart]

Humanalien ~

I agree with everything that you said.

A sub lawn dart right smack in the middle of Central Park, right in the middle of that lake -- hey, that's a good one! Thank you. Lots and lots of view-points all around that. An average submarine would be around 300 feet long, so if it was stuck up to the conning tower, it would still stick out by a good 200 feet, which is well above the surrounding trees that surrounds that lake in Central Park.

Gotta love that.

The need for fully PUBLIC, undeniable proof -- on the mainstream media of all types -- is the next step in our awakening process, imo.

So let's keep on spreading the word about it. Let's make it so!

I like to say in another forum: No lawn darts yet? WTF? Come on, man?! Let's go!

[ThePythonicCow]

Ok, Everybody,

I just now googled " submarine lawn darts "...

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=submarine+lawn+darts&pbx=1&oq=submarine+lawn+darts&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=1284l6820l0l7590l22l19l1l2l2l1l416l3906l1.9.7.1.1l22l0&gs_l=hp.3...1284l6820l0l7590l22l19l1l2l2l1l416l3906l1j9j7j1j1l22l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=a68e044ac40f9721&biw=1320&bih=647

... and THIS THREAD was on top of the Google search!

That's perhaps because Google is customizing search results -- it knows that you have an interest in this site and matters similar.

[Mozart]

That's perhaps because Google is customizing search results -- it knows that you have an interest in this site and matters similar.

Ah, Paul, thanks for the clarification. Ok ... :doh:

Ok, so I guess that as many of us ought to then put "Lawn Darts" into Google's search engine and just hit it? The more searches, the better.

And I do know that such searches are drops in the bucket, compared to searches for celebrities, etc.

But better than none, right?

[DreamsInDigital]

Nevermind,

The problem with "contacting" the Media and World leaders, well there is the censorship issue. And, then the world leaders have been contacted since 1934! And they have kept everything secret. That is why that idea would never work, and why they are coming and contacting non-leaders etc when they make contact. Because they already KNOW from experience that leaders and media sources don't do anything other than lead to potentially dangerous situations.

There is also already plenty of MSM news and other independent news sources that have caught video of UFO's over major cities, over international waters, etc. Doesn't make a darn bit of difference, and obviously still hasn't made THAT big of an impact which is necessary.

Anyway,

That is precisely WHY things like Lawn Darted Subs, The Statue Of Liberty being moved, Another sub being dumped in the reflecting pool infront of The Washington Monument, that same Monument being sliced and multiple pieces of it being delivered on the steps of every major news media agency, another thing I think is being discussed is splitting open an American Shackle Car and "gluing" it to the steps of the Capital with a "portal probe" placed in it so any time it's attempted at being covered, the cover disappears. Floating another sub passed an Cruise Liner Ship, need to be done. It's how they will be able to make the impact needed.

But, right now...doing things like stopping the Chemtrails and Cleaning up Radioactive areas and stopping these squirmishes from breaking into WW3 have higher priority than "showing off." And taking out HAARP, and Russia's Scaler Weather Modification Weapons etc. But I really think Mozart starting this thread is a brilliant idea, it needed to be made, and I couldn't think of an more perfect person to have started it. :)

Btw, Mozart. Absolutely LOVE your ideas. Ultimate Favorite so far is the pentagon one, and the Cruise Ship One. Bloody Brilliant my friend.

Another that was discussed, Israeli Airforce Jet Henge, in the central city, how about another in every major city across the US? I think we've got enough F-16's and F-15's to accommodate such beautiful artwork.

They could always shove one of the subs, or another one if they don't have enough currently, in the crown of the Statue Of Liberty, and change her hand holding the torch to holding a middle finger. ;)

I know there has been discussions about shooting Persephone Off The Capital Rotunda, who really wants the Goddess of The Underworld up there anyway? Hmm?

[Oouthere]

It would be wonderful to see a submarine nailed into the ground but......Dr. karla Turner has seen many promises by them never reach fruition and I doubt this one will either. So many people are living a double life of the mundane and "other side", but seldom do the two ever meet.

Rich

[Mozart]

I'm condensing DreamsInDigital's list of great "lawn dart" ideas, to wit:

~ Statue of Liberty being moved.

~ Slicing the Washington Monument into pieces [13 pieces, eh?] and delivering them to the front doors of corporate offices of major media.

~ Slicing open "American Shackle Cars" [Railroad boxcars for FEMA], gluing it to the steps of the Capitol and putting a "portal probe" on it, so that anytime a cover is put on it, the cover disappears immediately.

~ Floating a sub in the air along a Cruise Liner.

~ Israeli Air Force Jet Henge -- sticking military jets into a "Stonehenge" formation.

~ Shoving a sub through the crown of the Statue of Liberty and changing the torch to a middle finger.

And from others:

~ A sub lawn dart in the middle of Central Park, in the middle of the lake, sticking straight up.

~ Intercepting TV programming to make announcements.

I'd like to ask all of you who come up with suggestions to please list them in a "grocery shopping list" fashion.

And below are my comments on a few other ideas that have been kindly shared in this thread, to wit:

Intercepting TV Programming ~ This excellent idea is actually being considered by the ETs and they plan to do this, if necessary, but they are trying their hardest to try to make it possible for humans to do this kind of TV programming co-opting, probably by military means with the support of the 138-nation alliance that now has formed to take down the NWO bastards. So this is sort of a "Plan B" plan that's on the docket right now.

UFOs Hovering Offshore -- Thank you for this idea, but the problem with this one is that most international waters are a good 200 miles offshore, so such ships will be invisible. The maximum visibility for a ship on water is 30 miles on the open seas, due to the curvature of the Earth (that's my understanding, but I could be mistaken as to the exact distance). Of course a 5-mile-wide UFO ship would be a lot more visible, but that could create problem #2, noted below in the next sample.

And I think that the ETs are going to want to do things that are absolutely, totally visible -- leaving their footprints ... without being seen -- that way, this would stimulate the people of the world to discuss, to wonder, to think, to scratch their heads, to debate online, etc.

The ETs WILL soon be fully visible and amongst us in the world, but first, baby steps need to be taken in ways that starts to wake us up, starts to shaken us from our long, long slumber in ways that does not shock the world too much.

ET Ships Hovering Over Cities ~ That's already been done -- and ruined -- in the movie, Independence Day, so that option is no longer viable, as it could create panic in the fear-driven, fear-dominated and fear-oriented minds of people out there. Hollywood put that movie out there, so that we could not have the option of the ETs showing up publicly for the first time by hovering over major cities.

[WhiteFeather]

My idea,,,,,,Move the Eiffel tower to NY city at the location of the statue of liberty and bring the statue of liberty to the Eiffel towers location. That's a good start due to its heavy populated areas. Also drop a sbmarine lawn dart in times square NY city. Think of the traffic jams and the exposure it will get from this location. A lot of new yorkers as well as the tourists have iphones, digital cameras and cel phones they can utilize for this event.

[EnergyGardener]

My idea,,,,,,Move the Eiffel tower to NY city at the location of the statue of liberty and bring the statue of liberty to the Eiffel towers location. That's a good start due to its heavy populated areas. Also drop a sbmarine lawn dart in times square NY city. Think of the traffic jams and the exposure it will get from this location. A lot of new yorkers as well as the tourists have iphones, digital cameras and cel phones they can utilize for this event.

Whitefeather, I like your ideas, but I have one major concern: Our educational systems are so "dumbed-down" that isn't it as likely that switching the Tour Eiffel with the Statue of Liberty (both of French origin) would simply confuse people more?

[Kimberley]

Whitefeather, I like your ideas, but I have one major concern: Our educational systems are so "dumbed-down" that isn't it as likely that switching the Tour Eiffel with the Statue of Liberty (both of French origin) would simply confuse people more?


Although isn't it our "job' to help elevate the "dumbed-downness"??? Shine the light on the truth?
Much love! :hug:

[DreamsInDigital]

I think there has been discussion about putting ONE of the subs in the lake in Central Park. If it's in the Lake In Central Park and fixed so it can't "dive" then there is no where for it to go.

I think the thing about it being dropped in time square would be the potential for to many traffic jams, accidents.

[EnergyGardener]

Eiffel designed the structure of Statue of Liberty and the Tour (for which it's named): Perhaps relocating them then back to their original locations could be that history lesson, including that Eiffel was also, Illuminati.

To D.I.D's point, realizing the landmines of the military and surveillance systems must first be cleared for the introduction of long due technologies and resource systems, it will be fun to observe these procedures for the transition to Public Contact.

D.I.D., we do look forward to your update and perhaps other creative proposals for sticking submarines up (or down) existing or newly created orifices.

[DreamsInDigital]

I really love this thread and am appreciative of Mozart creating it, because it's giving others the opportunity to make suggestions and be a part of something that will become a part of history when this happens.

What about?

Putting The Eiffel Tower over The White House? This just came to me...as an idea. Certainly think it would get the point across about how the Illuminati Dominate the US Government.

Or, could always take the White House and Drop it on The Capital Hill. <---- this came straight from Up Top. With a grumble.

Here's one more from "Up Top" apparently one is considering taking the Eiffel Tower and Throwing it like a Dart at Capital Hill.

Ofcourse all Innocent Humans would be removed from these places at the time that they would done.

[highlyter]

I'd love to see the Pyramids take off and float from Egypt and Peru and land in the middle of D.C., the City of London and in Vatican City. Nope, that couldn't be covered up nor considered an illusion.

[DreamsInDigital]

LOL, the only problem I can see with that...if the Pyramids are Moved, The Planet will experience serious rotational issues. I was told by someone that is heavily into sacred geometry that the pyramids are used to stabilize the rotation of the planet. And, that is why they are found all over the galaxy on all the different planets. :) Including Moon, Mars. etc.

[WhiteFeather]

LOL, the only problem I can see with that...if the Pyramids are Moved, The Planet will experience serious rotational issues. I was told by someone that is heavily into sacred geometry that the pyramids are used to stabilize the rotation of the planet. And, that is why they are found all over the galaxy on all the different planets. :) Including Moon, Mars. etc.

Agreed DID, They say these pyramids were also used as counterweights i agree. Leave the pyramids in tact.

[humanalien]

Here's a real wild idea. They could take Obama, Biden, Bush sr/jr, both Clintons
and a lot of the evil banking cartels and string them up like puppets from tree's
in central park while the park is really busy.....

[Mozart]

Here's a real wild idea. They could take Obama, Biden, Bush sr/jr, both Clintons
and a lot of the evil banking cartels and string them up like puppets from tree's
in central park while the park is really busy.....

I'd LOVE to do that, but humans can do that, too, so the idea of ETs doing this won't come into people's minds.

It's got to be something that is IMPOSSIBLE for humans -- beit military, corporate, etc -- could possibly do.

Something that the only logical, sane answer to the puzzle created by the ET-placed/removed artifacts is: ETs did it.

This is the Alexandrian Sword that we need so badly now in our world to slice that bloody Gordian Knot.

[WhiteFeather]

Here's a real wild idea. They could take Obama, Biden, Bush sr/jr, both Clintons
and a lot of the evil banking cartels and string them up like puppets from tree's
in central park while the park is really busy.....

ROTFLMAO, That was original. Love the idea.

[thunder24]

how bout they stick the lawn darts up their ass, and quit goofing off if they want to help so much....

[Erich]

Submarine "lawn darts"?
Making monuments disappear?
Ships on parking lots?

No such elaborate efforts are necessary.
(Not to mention that they would not necessarily prove anything, because such things are perfectly attainable with illusionist tricks.)

If any ET want to make their presence known, it would suffice to do something or all of the following, which I am assuming such a power should be able to do effortlessly:

- Appear, low and clearly visible, over international waters, not far from land, just out of reach of any individual country's authority;

- Appear simultaneously over various cities, or other places where a significant number of people will be able to see you, all over the world;

- Contact the media and world leaders (they are people, too - they would be impressed :);

- Intercept a few popular TV and radio stations and make an announcement.

(If all this sounds familiar, it's because I've suggested it - twice - in a different thread, but for some reason it didn't generate much agreement. :-))

No need to drop submarines or any other such theatrics. Just do any of the above. If media won't cooperate make a little video. Otherwise, no thanks.

[Calz]

Since we are talking submarines here ... how about ET taking over and "reprogramming" the bluebeam holographic sytem (or using one of their own) to have images and sounds from John Lennon in his prime singing:

"Give Peace a Chance" or "Imagine"

... all the while standing on top of the "Yellow Submarine".

This would be simultaneous over all towns and cities worldwide. That would take away the "fear factor" of the massive ships aka Independence Day. While it would most definitely take on an "otherworldly" tone it would still resonate a human message and one I excpect any benevolent ET would approve of.


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That could be the "attention getter" and would obviously need to have another sort of follow-up.


IMHO

[Mozart]

LOL!

Well, hey, look at the 'toon of Lennon holding up the classic satanic symbol.

EFF'n everywhere, that two-fingered symbol!

Well, mine is the middle finger on my right hand and the middle finger on my left, so there, you EFF'n MOFOS!

[davyj0nes]

how bout they stick the lawn darts up their ass, and quit goofing off if they want to help so much....

Decided to edit my post, i have something important to say. Here is the thing about telepathic communication with extra dimensional aliens and channeling extra dimensional aliens. They are both made up. Neither of them should be taken as proof positive that anything is going to happen about anything. Think of it like this, its like when Moses went up the mountain to receive the ten commandments; Moses might have had a real, to him, experience but to then take that personal experience and say its the all encompassing truth is damaging.
I'll make a point about the 'lawn darts' and it will be brief; not even the armies of earth are as childish as these aliens.

[thunder24]

indeed mr. jones, them durn aleens do owe us taxes...

I do want our guests reading, to realize, some of our members arn't jokeing....sorry

peace

[phimonic]

well such happenings were awesome, but i'm afraid nothing will happen until the big ron has arrived.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9UeMJh1BIU&feature=related

btw - check out them bone-dry fingers!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7Gd6xRtCOQ

[eileenrose]

I am just saying this because I don't see Kettler as telepathic (at all). Just don't read it in his field energies (aura). And if there were telepathic aliens or aliens with telepathic equipment around, would they communicate telepathically with someone who isn't telepathic (or an empath...which he might be....but can't tell...he doesn't seem grounded enough).

[NeverMind]

No need to drop submarines or any other such theatrics. Just do any of the above. If media won't cooperate make a little video. Otherwise, no thanks.

I am starting to think (like I did in that other thread) that this is another private joke that everybody is in on, except me. :)

Why this need for outrageous stunts? Why even discuss them?
There are so many elegant and energy-efficient ways to make yourself known, if that's what you want (and if you are there, in the first place, of course).

[ThePythonicCow]

I moved some posts from this thread to a new thread: Is it channeling; is it telepathic (was: Submarine "Lawn Darts") (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41731-Is-it-channeling-is-it-telepathic--was-Submarine-Lawn-Darts--).

This move, in and of itself, is not casting dispersions on anything that was said here ... just sorting things out by focus.

(Actually, I found myself contemplating a response to some of the posts I just now moved, but noticed it would be further off-topic discussion for this thread ... so figured I should move the off topics posts first.)

[DreamsInDigital]

I think the ultimate point behind these "stunts" or "pranks" or what ever you guys want to call them is to force the break of the strangle hold that the Government and Censorship has on the media, and prove beyond any chance of doubt that YES ET/ED's exist, and that they are infact here to help us. It's not about us in the alternative community that already know they exist, and the few of us that already know they are here helping us. It's for the "average joes" that need these kind of examples, need to be physically shown.

We've already had soft disclosure from the governments around the world releasing tones of files on UFO's/ET's etc. But, it's been done so quietly because of what ever reasons.

Ultimately it will be a great thing when it is proved to the world that ET/ED's exist, because it will collapse the NWO/Shadow Government. And, there will be forced the introduction of Free Energy Devices, Inter-Steller Travel, better medical care, etc, etc, etc. And end the Depopulation Program as well. It's all about protecting and saving as many innocent lives as absolutely possible.

Besides, wouldn't you all like a huge visual undeniable victory and to know for a fact that the NWO/PTW/Global Elite are being pulverized? Do you know how much the world will ignite in positive energy when this can be proven. And how much easier that will make the final last bits of fight against the NWO/PTW/Global Elite.

Did I mention the whole sticking the B-2 Bat Wing that was snatched out of the air infront of two other pilots, is possibly destined to be parked in the middle of the Golden Gate Bridge?

[Calz]

Perhaps we are all having a bit too much fun with this ... or not???

Undeniable for all those that love to pound their chest demanding "proof" that nuke missles have been shut down on several occasions.

... so where does that leave us???


Personally I laughed my butt off when Wilcock suggested the scourge of the alphabet agencies ... those pesky "Space Hippies"

:hippie:


In all seriousness I believe there has long been "help" behind the scenes in ways we have little idea or understanding.


No that doesn't mean ET will "save us" (from ourselves) but perhaps it isn't such a black and white issue as many want to believe.


The point has been raised and should well be considered ... if the "elite" are so very ready to start WW3 ... then why has it not happened yet?


Supposedly all it would take would be pressing a button ... whoosh ... missiles go flying.


Why has not that yet happened???


Is that more accessible for everyone here than dematerialized submarines being placed who knows where (Lennon aside)???

:noidea:

[phimonic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY

how many did aliens stop so far?

and what about those?: (seems like a busy task these days)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJs5isukWh8

[thunder24]

thats a good question phi,,, talking about putting things on bridges and monuments seems like such a waste of time, and a distraxtion for the rest of our memebers here... Oh i know, mayb we can focus and change the timeline back to when there were no explosions.

[Calz]

Yes massive number of tests ... many underground ... in the past in the air.

Aside from depleted uranium in the areas deployed ... where has there been a nuclear bomb detonated to kill since WW2???

Do those numbers add up???

All those tests ... all those weapons ... and yet nothing (again aside from DU)???

[thunder24]

If its detonated to kill or not, what does that matter? The fact stands it hurts the earth and, in turn, us....

really?

[DreamsInDigital]

You really make a lot of great points Calz, and specially the way you put things, I think makes it much more clear for others to understand. Something I'm not always that good at, though I try.

[Calz]

If its detonated to kill or not, what does that matter? The fact stands it hurts the earth and, in turn, us....

really?


Good question.

Wish I had the answer.

From the most spiritually advanced soul I know ... it has been suggested Gaia will not be allowed to have humanity stop her "ascension".

Yes fighting words in the forum of late ... for whatever reason ... cannot offer proof to those who demand it.

Some things are beyond proof.

Less hard to "prove" is really stop and ponder on why ... why ... if all it takes was simply depression of a button to launch all this ... has it not happened???

Does that not make sense to anyone?

[phimonic]

Yes massive number of tests ... many underground ... in the past in the air.

Aside from depleted uranium in the areas deployed ... where has there been a nuclear bomb detonated to kill since WW2???

Do those numbers add up???

All those tests ... all those weapons ... and yet nothing (again aside from DU)???

well actually they do kill every day, and will for many millenia - but they rather do it slowly these days , with depleted uranium ammunition - in bagdad 80% of children get born with severe defects,.. - in afghanistan they put tons of this stuff into the fresh-water-reserves of a whole desert region - it's a genocide over many years .



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=repUEeI0hGk

not always need a huge BANG to do severe damage, and if not necessary, then why make big noise around it ,..

i mean what is the gulf-war syndrom - what are they using in their wars of the last years,.. ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTJ1let0so


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvbC-eqF9ec

[Calz]

Yes massive number of tests ... many underground ... in the past in the air.

Aside from depleted uranium in the areas deployed ... where has there been a nuclear bomb detonated to kill since WW2???

Do those numbers add up???

All those tests ... all those weapons ... and yet nothing (again aside from DU)???

well actually they do kill every day, and will for many millenia - but they rather do it slowly these days , with depleted uranium ammunition - in bagdad 80% of children get born with severe defects,.. - in afghanistan they put tons of this stuff into the fresh-water-reserves of a whole desert region - it's a genocide over many years .



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=repUEeI0hGk

not always need a huge BANG to do severe damage, and if not necessary, then why make big noise around it ,..

i mean what is the gulf-war syndrom - what are they using in their wars of the last years,.. ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTJ1let0so


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvbC-eqF9ec

Yep ... 100% agree about that (DU is slow kill for the entire northern hemisphere).

Only caveat would be changes to our bodies from what even mainstream science admits are changes to our dna ... again I don't know and can only offer what (to me) makes sense. Some suggest that changes due to where our solar system is traveling though in conjunction with the sun is changing us dramatically (as has happened sometimes in the past).

The more conservative and safer approach would be to head underground (which those with money have been working towards for several decades now).

[thunder24]

And what happens to the submarines crew...r they killed if deemed by "offworlders" bad? Who gives offworlders the right to do such? How is this helpful to us?

Do they think that offworlders are the main force of the NWO? If so, then take care of those guys, if not then quite goofing off.

[onawah]

According to the channeler Suzy Ward, when people die in nuclear explosions, it does more than just kill their bodies.
It has an extra-dimensional effect, and harms the subtle bodies as well, which means that it interrupts the individual soul's ability to proceed on with incarnating and evolution.
In essence, what she says is that it fragments souls, and that they need lengthy and intensive assistance and healing to be re-integrated.
(In healing circles, it's known as "soul retrieval".)
Apparently, this can happen in the case of other traumas as well, but not as drastically as with nuclear explosions.

So the decree as to what intervention is allowed by ET/EDs was changed to allow the prevention of nuclear explosions that would fragment souls.
I don't know which messages she addressed these issues, but her website with archives is:
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mattsmessage.htm

I'm not saying that I understand this, or necessarily think it's correct, I'm just offering this as a bit of possible explanation.
However, inasmuch as I think Gaia also has a soul as such, and the explosions and nuclear waste, etc. are harming her, I wish the allowed interventions, if there are such things, would include stopping the "testing" of any nuclear devices on the planet, as well as the use of Depleted Uranium, creating of nuclear waste, etc
Suzy Ward says that would probably have to wait until the ETs are able to be more open about their presence here, and/or are here in greater numbers.

I agree with Calz in that I think the ET/EDs must be helping or we would probably be extinct by now, but the questions remain as to who they are, what their plans and agendas are, who their human spokespeople are, if any, and so on.
Since we are also told that there are psyops which can probably make people think they are in touch with ETs/EDs through channeling and/or telepathy we will probably have to wait until there is verifiable proof.
And it looks like only time will tell on these questions,because we're not there yet.

Meanwhile, I really like what Dedukshyn said on this thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41580-Kerry-s-public-message-to-Light-Workers-who-serve-the-dark&p=439245#post439245


I hate to be simplistic, but in reality "belief" is the weapon used against us, and it works because we all believe something. All they have to do is cover all the bases with some disinfo, and then we are basically left with an impossible task.

Let's back this up a minute. What can we do to nullify this process of control? Stop Believing (And thereby continuously allowing all possibilities-important for conscious creation). It may sound weird but if we focus our attention in the experience of the moment and believe the moment, they lose all power over us, as our "choices" are no longer guided by their "conditioning". We have been conditioned to "believe" the opposite is true. I no longer believe anything outright, but rather I entertain considerations based on how much confidence I can give them via my knowledge, external input, logic, rationale, etc. But I never have to believe anything. It is a false notion. I have nothing to defend, thus nothing to lose; and more the wiser. My two cents

[Ascension]

Wherever it is placed, it should be put in a position that would be impossible for any human to have accomplished. Either hovering off the ground or balanced off center, touching the ground.

[DreamsInDigital]

Another one that has been discussed but not settled on entirely yet, was putting something like a B-2 (since they have one of those and can always take more if they want) in the middle of a field during a broad casted nationally, Baseball or Football Game. And, jamming the signals so that the networks can't "cut the signal". The thing that was suggested though with this situation was that it would be more impressive if the sub or plane was suspended. But, then I think even "lawn darting" a sub in a thing like that...would be impressive. Specially done out of no-where.

[EnergyGardener]

If Uncle Bobby stops by with a birthday gift for me, I am not going to ask him why he didn't bring me that gift a month earlier.

If Aunt Suzie brings me a new heirloom vegetable for my garden, I am not going to refuse it because I would have enjoyed that addition to my garden last year.

If my neighbor Joe offers to provide an organic means to eliminate blight from my tomatoes, I am not going to complain that he didn't prevent the cucumber beetle disaster to my gourds two years ago.

If ET now has a "legal permission" and a timeline to take out the Illuminati, and will do so in greater earnest with our visualization, meditation / prayer, why would anyone refuse that offer and ask what is so special about this year more than any other? Why wouldn't we instead make every attempt to awaken others so that we all can manifest this outcome faster with less damage, destruction, suffering and loss of life?

If placing submarine "Lawn Darts" and other unavoidable signs, in high profile locations around the world for: 1) demonstration of the recent defeat and fallibility of our past tyrants, thieves, pedophiles, murderers, and owners of the physical world; 2) demonstration of approaching open Contact with our newly allied ETs to bring in the new era as described above by D.I.D., what sense does it make to not make that effort; or worse, complain?

Such absurd questions on this and other threads do provide a distraction, particularly when this forum openly states that ET issues and disclosure, are one of its purposes. Is it a coincidence that there is inevitably at least one unrelenting cynic positioned on each positive thread acting as a disenfranchising agent, making every effort to dilute the attention to, purpose and outcome of the message?

Or, are these curious questions simply another reflection of our deteriorating educational systems?

Either way, I have faith in human intelligence and goodness, that for those truly seeking solutions to recreate our new world without shadows, they/you shall realize and appreciate the "truth" and bounty of this garden, despite the weeds. For many reasons, and by our mutual efforts as a minority of dedicated gardeners, this too shall pass.

[EnergyGardener]

Another one that has been discussed but not settled on entirely yet, was putting something like a B-2 (since they have one of those and can always take more if they want) in the middle of a field during a broad casted nationally, Baseball or Football Game. And, jamming the signals so that the networks can't "cut the signal". The thing that was suggested though with this situation was that it would be more impressive if the sub or plane was suspended. But, then I think even "lawn darting" a sub in a thing like that...would be impressive. Specially done out of no-where.

Of course, their concern (ET's) and ours, will be not to cause panic and injury or worse. I believe it must be something that is structurally stable (stuff happens), revealed instantly or at nighttime for discovery at morning, then disappears soon after in the same way. The metal (swords) of these war vehicles will be very valuable, and must be hauled to foundries to be melted (plowshears) for useful purpose, including new anti-gravity vehicles for all.

[DreamsInDigital]

Oh definitely, safety and protection of innocent lives is the number one priority in all these that is taken into consideration with each "event". I completely agree with what you said in your post btw. You are another one that really has a way of putting things into clear perspectives. :) Well done!

[Maia Gabrial]

So, Mozart what's wrong with putting a sub or 2 across a very busy 4 lane highway and stopping traffic for an indefinite time? That'll certainly get everyone's attention and have them wondering how the h*** it got there. But it shouldn't stop with just one place. Obvious spots.... How about one across the Capitol steps? It would take FOREVER to haul it out of there, giving time for many people to see it. I dare Lame Stream to ignore it.... I dare Obama to claim it as a holiday display....


Submarine "lawn darts"?
Making monuments disappear?
Ships on parking lots?

No such elaborate efforts are necessary.
(Not to mention that they would not necessarily prove anything, because such things are perfectly attainable with illusionist tricks.)

If any ET want to make their presence known, it would suffice to do something or all of the following, which I am assuming such a power should be able to do effortlessly:

- Appear, low and clearly visible, over international waters, not far from land, just out of reach of any individual country's authority;

- Appear simultaneously over various cities, or other places where a significant number of people will be able to see you, all over the world;

- Contact the media and world leaders (they are people, too - they would be impressed ;

- Intercept a few popular TV and radio stations and make an announcement.

(If all this sounds familiar, it's because I've suggested it - twice - in a different thread, but for some reason it didn't generate much agreement. :-))


As to NeverMind's suggestion, they're already doing these things and the word doesn't get out there.... It's going to take a bigger demonstration than that... If Lame Stream and govt officials are impressed, they're not showing it....or sharing....

[gypsybutterflykiss]

I love every one of your suggestions, Mozart! Only, I'd recommend ALL of them EVERYWHERE! Put 5 or more lawn darts on the WH lawn. I'm saying litter every lmajor city with them; so that it would take alot of time and effort to remove them.... In the meantime, people will witness it as it's being covered up.... :pound:
I laughed my a** off at your ideas, but I approve wholeheartedly!


Do you think they could swap out the whitehouse with a Walmart..? High fives all around for "corporate America"!

[humanalien]

Are our alien friends actually going to do any of this or
are we just playing the wish game here?????

There are lots of good idea's here. Now it's their turn
to choose something or come up with something of their own.

[DreamsInDigital]

I will say Yes, but I'm not putting a time frame on it as to when. There was a target quite thoroughly dealt with last night but we are waiting for the defacto ground Military/Intelligence Sources confirmation before publicly posting about it. There is still the North Korean Issue, a still ultimately unsettled middle east and Syria and a bunch of nuclear sites being dealt with, plus HAARP, etc. They have priorities. And, potentially life threatening for massive amounts of people "issues" will ALWAYS come first before "showing off."

Speaking of Bridges, I think what might be "funny" is take something like London Bridge or another famous Bridge and put it somewhere else, specially that doesn't require a bridge in the first place.

[jorr lundstrom]

If Santa can deliver, I wanna have an Aircraft Carrier from Pearl Harbour placed

on Temple Mountain in Jerusalem. Just for fun. Asap please.


http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt81/sakasvattaja/Mantis-Shrimp.jpg


Jorr

[DreamsInDigital]

Great idea Jor!

[onawah]

DID, can you tell us where this info will be "publicly posted"?

There was a target quite thoroughly dealt with last night but we are waiting for the defacto ground Military/Intelligence Sources confirmation before publicly posting about it. .

[DreamsInDigital]

If we're lucky, the media will pick up on it, otherwise we still have to have reliable ground sources of the High Ranking Military and Intelligence types confirm it first. But, will likely mention it here only after confirmation though. And, must be a minimum of at least 3 independent sources. As that is how all the information is verified.

[gypsybutterflykiss]

how does that saying go? work hard... play harder. lets just say when it does happen i'll be tickled pink with joy- more so than usual ;)




I will say Yes, but I'm not putting a time frame on it as to when. There was a target quite thoroughly dealt with last night but we are waiting for the defacto ground Military/Intelligence Sources confirmation before publicly posting about it. There is still the North Korean Issue, a still ultimately unsettled middle east and Syria and a bunch of nuclear sites being dealt with, plus HAARP, etc. They have priorities. And, potentially life threatening for massive amounts of people "issues" will ALWAYS come first before "showing off."

Speaking of Bridges, I think what might be "funny" is take something like London Bridge or another famous Bridge and put it somewhere else, specially that doesn't require a bridge in the first place.

[humanalien]

I haven't seen any lawn darts today, have you? :boink:

[humanalien]

Do we have any updates today?

[gypsybutterflykiss]

Do we have any updates today?

Anybody out there up for a lizard sandwich?

[highlyter]

7bgnluRWIqs

Pyramids and Tesla.. Sharing this because I mentioned flying pyramids earlier in this thread :alien:

Free energy.

[humanalien]

Where are the lawn darts?

[Maia Gabrial]

If ET now has a "legal permission" and a timeline to take out the Illuminati, and will do so in greater earnest with our visualization, meditation / prayer, why would anyone refuse that offer and ask what is so special about this year more than any other? Why wouldn't we instead make every attempt to awaken others so that we all can manifest this outcome faster with less damage, destruction, suffering and loss of life?


Have you ever tried to talk to someone who wasn't ready to hear what you had to say? Very frustrating.... and difficult. People are awakening in their own time and in their own way. WE can't make it happen faster, though we'd like to. So, in a sense when it starts affecting our comfort zones, then our eyes start seeing the truth. Many comfort zones are being shaken up now.

As for the skeptics and party-poopers:

I'm like many people who are sick of cover ups and secrecies. The request for the truth about ufo's has gone on for a long time, but the slow trickle we're seeing now. So many of us have been contacted, abducted, have witnessed ET's, have seen extraordinary things, so for the govt and militaries to lie about it is an insult to us. They're pussy-footing around with the truth and will continue to do so for as long as we allow it. The reason is that they know they'd be in deep trouble....

You have to admit that Lame Stream is just helping with the cover ups by being either "quiet" or" selective" in their reporting. Many times they're the ones mocking a sighting or the witnesses. So, there's no help there.
How quick does the miltary get to a crash site so that they can cover that up? How many witnesses are hushed up with threats or even murdered? So, no help there....

Here's why I think that it's NOT a waste of time putting "lawn darts" all over the place. If these things are placed in impossible locations, like the Eiffel Tower over the White House, every person seeing this would undoubtedly know that no Earthly reason could explain how it got there. No tornados will have brought it there. No formal White House special events that could be invented by Lame Stream.... It will be so impossible to explain, but ONLY one explanation would do it: that our Stellan friends are trying to get OUR attention. This would be their way of saying, "Greetings, Terrans! It's time to wake up. We're Here!"
Yeah, many people will freak out, but they'll live. Many people like me will be in amazed. My first sighting changed my life, but I'd welcome more. I KNOW that these lawn darts will do the same for everyone else.

If you want to wait for something like Disclosure to come from the corrupted ones, it will never happen. I take it back, it may take another 100 years, but I don't want to wait that long, do you?! I want to meet our Stellan friends NOW! I want to be part of the Universal family already. It's time for our world to evolve into something better than what the elites did with it....

So many of us were having fun playing with the ideas of lawn darts. Some of them were outrageous and hilarious! I'm going to say WHEN they appear, our lives will change dramatically.....
IMO our Stellan friends upstairs, don't want to hurt us. From what I've discovered about them, they've been doing all they could to take out the ones who are choking the life out of us and our dear planet. THEY want to see us free to evolve.
Now ain't that compassion from our Stellan brothers and sisters?
Avalonians, I can't wait for the fun to begin....!

[Fellow Aspirant]

Here's my contribution:

When I read the post about using an aircraft carrier I had a quick mind blip: I'd like to see the USS Enterprise dematerialized from its current location in or near the Persian Gulf and then be re-materialized a few millimeters above the tip of the flame on the Statue of Liberty. There it would simply hover, with all personelle and weaponry intact. Those on board could take their time "airlifting" everyone to safer locations (they've got the airpower, after all). Then the photo-op would continue for, say, a month, before putting the Enterprise back into her regular berth.

[humanalien]

Here's my contribution:

When I read the post about using an aircraft carrier I had a quick mind blip: I'd like to see the USS Enterprise dematerialized from its current location in or near the Persian Gulf and then be re-materialized a few millimeters above the tip of the flame on the Statue of Liberty. There it would simply hover, with all personelle and weaponry intact. Those on board could take their time "airlifting" everyone to safer locations (they've got the airpower, after all). Then the photo-op would continue for, say, a month, before putting the Enterprise back into her regular berth.

Good idea Fellow Aspirant

[DreamsInDigital]

There's a huge amount of evidence cropping up surrounding one or two of Kettler's latest blog posts, concerning the sun being a star gate and the other with the 5 Draco/Reptoid Motherships being destroyed by some Pakistan Atomic Bombs that were recovered (after being stolen from Pakistan by Islamic Extremist) and tossed into the Sun, frying those Lizzards. The Irony behind it all? All the Imagery is being provided by MSM Source NASA! While it's not the Lawn Darts we're all eagerly waiting for, it's the latest in what some of the ET/ED's are up to and the supporting evidence comes from a mainstream source.

Efforts are continuing though to restabilize Syria, remove nukes from Libya, monitor the situation with the USS Enterprise and it's potential as a sacrificial lamb, preventing multiple artificial and natural earthquake events (above certain magnitudes depending on the region) including the NMF from rupturing, cleaning up radioactive areas, continuing to maintain some stability in the middle east and prevent WW3 from breaking out (as they already have multiple times), cleaning up and reestablishing the environmental stability of the Gulf Of Mexico. Now as has been added to the list locating and removing the nuclear explosives placed around Rome and Jerusalem to prevent innocent deaths there. And, monitoring the situation with the La Palma Island has continued as they are determined to prevent that rock formation from being sunk as well to prevent innocent lives from being sacrificed and the situation surrounding another potential attack on Tokyo, Japan. While resources are still stretched tightly things are being done. We're all hoping for a more visible display and "show de force" domestically here in the United States but the top priority remains to save and protect as many innocent lives as possible, prevent as much widespread destruction and de-nuke the planet.

[S-L]

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[S-L]

... that an Iranian sub had been dematerialized by our positive ETs/EDs buddies ...

... And this act by the ETs/EDs is but one of many dozens of acts that they have done to totally STOP the start of WW III. ...

... I have seen several confirmations from several highly-reliable sources that its a fact that our ET buddies really are helping us ...

... Guns have failed to fire in the theaters of war, only to fire just fine when taken to the shooting ranges, then to fail again when aimed at the enemies (Israel and Palestinians ... this has happened several times). ...

... Iranian suicide boats -- 40 of them -- going at kamikaze speeds at ships in the Persian Gulf, only to miraculously vanish in thin air. ...

... And 39+ other incidents of "impossible" and "miraculous" events that prevented the starts of WW III? ...

... I've seen confirmation from several sources that Kettler's published information is accurate as stated in his blog ...

I'm NOT saying that we should sit on our asses to let those advanced ETs to "rescue" us, as that is NOT what the ETs want to see; however, I AM saying that we should, WE MUST, do everything that we can do to help ourselves awaken to the point which it becomes more than possible for the ETs to intervene on our behalf -- empowered by our prayers, visualizations and demands -- and start to stick those submarine "lawn darts" everywhere on our behalf where the damn governments CANNOT hide such objects.


You make many bold claims - all of these things are verifiable. Do you have any evidence? Proof? What sources? I'd be very interested in reading them. You claim many times over that you have sources and have confirmed this information. Please show us!

As for not waiting for ETs to save us, but becoming really awakened enough to be able to properly ask for their help... to properly intervene on our behalf... makes no sense. That is asking them to save us. That is taking our power away. How can you be sure that Alien beings from somewhere else have travelled all the way to Earth for our best interest only? In our history, have countries travelled across the world to save them - for human rights - or for their own self-interest?

Why are awakened people so clever and cunning in discerning the lies told to them by the powers that be, and yet so helpless and gullible in discerning the lies and misinformation shared by Aliens? You are so quick to trust. That should set off your internal alarm bells. Heed them! Apply the same level of discernment to our ET visitors that you do to world powers and the ilk that control them. You owe humanity that much. DON'T SELL US OUT!

[schneider]

If you want visibility for the lawn darts, the las vegas strip has over 37 million visitors a year and i think the addition of a submarine into the dancing fountains in front of the belagio would be a nice feature.

[Calz]

Easy peezy lemon squeezy ...


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... but then again we come to that nagging question of where to place this beast?

[DreamsInDigital]

If you want visibility for the lawn darts, the las vegas strip has over 37 million visitors a year and i think the addition of a submarine into the dancing fountains in front of the belagio would be a nice feature.
That's a brilliant idea! Certainly when they get to the Lawn Darting Game, this location will be highly considered.

[aranuk]

S-L you said

Why are awakened people so clever and cunning in discerning the lies told to them by the powers that be, and yet so helpless and gullible in discerning the lies and misinformation shared by Aliens? You are so quick to trust. That should set off your internal alarm bells. Heed them! Apply the same level of discernment to our ET visitors that you do to world powers and the ilk that control them. You owe humanity that much. DON'T SELL US OUT!

I agree. We here at Avalon are here because we were NOT easily duped by TPTW. We sort of pride ourselves with not being as gullible as the rest of the people in our families and friends who are. Our good old discernment led us here to Avalon don't forget. What good can result from not using our discernment faculties when it comes down to ET's etc. No good can come from this sloppy behaviour. We all here KNOW there ARE ET's I am sure. But who are they? What are their agendas. They must be more advanced than us and surely must be able at least to trick us if they wished. I would suggest that our ordinary discernment may be sufficient to see through the conspiracy of the PTW but we must find a higher form of discernment to see through any trickery imposed upon us from ET's/ED's. Any ideas anyone?

Stan

[Maia Gabrial]

Maybe some of the lawn darts need to be placed in those countries first...? I'm thinking the Vatican would be a perfect place to put some big ones since it deems itself the power of the world....

[jorr lundstrom]

S-L you said

Why are awakened people so clever and cunning in discerning the lies told to them by the powers that be, and yet so helpless and gullible in discerning the lies and misinformation shared by Aliens? You are so quick to trust. That should set off your internal alarm bells. Heed them! Apply the same level of discernment to our ET visitors that you do to world powers and the ilk that control them. You owe humanity that much. DON'T SELL US OUT!

I agree. We here at Avalon are here because we were NOT easily duped by TPTW. We sort of pride ourselves with not being as gullible as the rest of the people in our families and friends who are. Our good old discernment led us here to Avalon don't forget. What good can result from not using our discernment faculties when it comes down to ET's etc. No good can come from this sloppy behaviour. We all here KNOW there ARE ET's I am sure. But who are they? What are their agendas. They must be more advanced than us and surely must be able at least to trick us if they wished. I would suggest that our ordinary discernment may be sufficient to see through the conspiracy of the PTW but we must find a higher form of discernment to see through any trickery imposed upon us from ET's/ED's. Any ideas anyone?

Stan


I have some ideas. Apparently we need all help we can get. We dont
seem to be able to handle the Predators ourself. When people pride
themselves for being such great pacifists that they really cant even
imagine that we have to actvely protect ourself against those
predators. So Im glad if ET/EDs are willing to help us. If they who
offer to help us wanted to invade this planet, they had done it a long
time ago. There are other groups of ETs cooperating with/using MIC to
gain control over the planet and we need help against these too. So
instead of spitting in the hand offered, be greatful, that at least they
care about the human population as so many humans dont seem to
care the least.


Jorr

[aranuk]

Hi Jorr we certainly need all the help we can get. I am not refusing help at all, I welcome it as I don't think we can free ourselves. It has gone on for far too long. We are tied in knots and we need some super help to untie us as well. We must still be careful and keep our guard up, that's all.

Stan

[NeverMind]

UFOs Hovering Offshore -- Thank you for this idea, but the problem with this one is that most international waters are a good 200 miles offshore, so such ships will be invisible.

Not in the Mediterranean area.
Or above the La Manche/English channel, for that matter.

In fact, anywhere in Europe would be fine, as there would be international authorities involved, which gives "visitors" time to make their statement.
(The NATO can only do so much, regardless of what some people may think.)



ET Ships Hovering Over Cities ~ That's already been done -- and ruined -- in the movie, Independence Day, so that option is no longer viable, as it could create panic in the fear-driven, fear-dominated and fear-oriented minds of people out there. Hollywood put that movie out there, so that we could not have the option of the ETs showing up publicly for the first time by hovering over major cities.I am pretty confident that in real life it would turn out just fine, especially if no stunts are involved.
We humans are generally much more psychologically resilient in real life than on film. :-)

[humanalien]

I agree that us humans do need the help. Most of us are still asleep
and it takes to long for the other ones that are just waking up, to wake
up.

Most people have no idea what is happening above the planet or below
it, for that matter. In fact, most people don't even know what is happening
right in front of their faces because they are to wrapped up in daily life or
drugs/crime.

If these aliens are really here to help us, maybe they should get people
like alex jones to lead the fight against the cabal. He probably knows
where all these evil people live and he could take charge and have these
people removed from power very quickly. At the same time, there would
be a human element in this fight against evil.

[jorr lundstrom]

I agree that us humans do need the help. Most of us are still asleep
and it takes to long for the other ones that are just waking up, to wake
up.

Most people have no idea what is happening above the planet or below
it, for that matter. In fact, most people don't even know what is happening
right in front of their faces because they are to wrapped up in daily life or
drugs/crime.

If these aliens are really here to help us, maybe they should get people
like alex jones to lead the fight against the cabal. He probably knows
where all these evil people live and he could take charge and have these
people removed from power very quickly. At the same time, there would
be a human element in this fight against evil.


Well humanalien. There are human elements already in the fight.
And those in the hunt are very good at picking the right targets.
Dont worry, its all rolling out just fine.


Jorr

[S-L]

S-L you said

Why are awakened people so clever and cunning in discerning the lies told to them by the powers that be, and yet so helpless and gullible in discerning the lies and misinformation shared by Aliens? You are so quick to trust. That should set off your internal alarm bells. Heed them! Apply the same level of discernment to our ET visitors that you do to world powers and the ilk that control them. You owe humanity that much. DON'T SELL US OUT!

I agree. We here at Avalon are here because we were NOT easily duped by TPTW. We sort of pride ourselves with not being as gullible as the rest of the people in our families and friends who are. Our good old discernment led us here to Avalon don't forget. What good can result from not using our discernment faculties when it comes down to ET's etc. No good can come from this sloppy behaviour. We all here KNOW there ARE ET's I am sure. But who are they? What are their agendas. They must be more advanced than us and surely must be able at least to trick us if they wished. I would suggest that our ordinary discernment may be sufficient to see through the conspiracy of the PTW but we must find a higher form of discernment to see through any trickery imposed upon us from ET's/ED's. Any ideas anyone?

Stan


I have some ideas. Apparently we need all help we can get. We dont
seem to be able to handle the Predators ourself. When people pride
themselves for being such great pacifists that they really cant even
imagine that we have to actvely protect ourself against those
predators. So Im glad if ET/EDs are willing to help us. If they who
offer to help us wanted to invade this planet, they had done it a long
time ago. There are other groups of ETs cooperating with/using MIC to
gain control over the planet and we need help against these too. So
instead of spitting in the hand offered, be greatful, that at least they
care about the human population as so many humans dont seem to
care the least.


Jorr

"The Intervention seeks not to destroy you, but to use you, to use you for their own purposes. This is a reality you cannot escape, and the deception that will be cast upon the human family and the pacification that it will cast upon the human family to submit and to acquiesce are very strong and compelling.

Having lost faith in human leadership and institutions, people will look to other powers in the universe to guide them, believing fervently that a beneficial force will come here to restore and to save humanity from itself. It is this expectation, this desire, however unconscious it might be, that the Intervention will utilize for its own purposes.

Your freedom is precious, to whatever extent it has been established in the world. It has been gained through great effort and human sacrifice. It must be protected with great vigilance."




-- From Entering the Greater Community (http://wp.newmessage.org/entering-the-greater-community/)

[jorr lundstrom]

S-L you said

Why are awakened people so clever and cunning in discerning the lies told to them by the powers that be, and yet so helpless and gullible in discerning the lies and misinformation shared by Aliens? You are so quick to trust. That should set off your internal alarm bells. Heed them! Apply the same level of discernment to our ET visitors that you do to world powers and the ilk that control them. You owe humanity that much. DON'T SELL US OUT!

I agree. We here at Avalon are here because we were NOT easily duped by TPTW. We sort of pride ourselves with not being as gullible as the rest of the people in our families and friends who are. Our good old discernment led us here to Avalon don't forget. What good can result from not using our discernment faculties when it comes down to ET's etc. No good can come from this sloppy behaviour. We all here KNOW there ARE ET's I am sure. But who are they? What are their agendas. They must be more advanced than us and surely must be able at least to trick us if they wished. I would suggest that our ordinary discernment may be sufficient to see through the conspiracy of the PTW but we must find a higher form of discernment to see through any trickery imposed upon us from ET's/ED's. Any ideas anyone?

Stan


I have some ideas. Apparently we need all help we can get. We dont
seem to be able to handle the Predators ourself. When people pride
themselves for being such great pacifists that they really cant even
imagine that we have to actvely protect ourself against those
predators. So Im glad if ET/EDs are willing to help us. If they who
offer to help us wanted to invade this planet, they had done it a long
time ago. There are other groups of ETs cooperating with/using MIC to
gain control over the planet and we need help against these too. So
instead of spitting in the hand offered, be greatful, that at least they
care about the human population as so many humans dont seem to
care the least.


Jorr

"The Intervention seeks not to destroy you, but to use you, to use you for their own purposes. This is a reality you cannot escape, and the deception that will be cast upon the human family and the pacification that it will cast upon the human family to submit and to acquiesce are very strong and compelling.

Having lost faith in human leadership and institutions, people will look to other powers in the universe to guide them, believing fervently that a beneficial force will come here to restore and to save humanity from itself. It is this expectation, this desire, however unconscious it might be, that the Intervention will utilize for its own purposes.

Your freedom is precious, to whatever extent it has been established in the world. It has been gained through great effort and human sacrifice. It must be protected with great vigilance."




-- From Entering the Greater Community (http://wp.newmessage.org/entering-the-greater-community/)


Interesting idea. As it looks right now, there are really few really free
humans around. And Im sure they will do wot they can to protect humanity
while most turn their faces against the wall and snore.

All is well


Jorr

[Mozart]

This thread was started on the last day of February, so that's 2 and a half months ago.


Numerous ET/ED-related events seems to have happened, but none of them in highly-public views, other than the recent destruction of the Korean rocket factory that is alleged to have been recorded by sat images.


We still are waiting for the submarine lawn darts to appear, or the equivalent thereof. <sigh>


Many great ideas have been suggested by the respondents in this thread! I went through the thread and clicked in "thanks" to most posters in this thread, as I had been behind in my efforts to thank others in this thread.


Now it's time for cosmic timing to kick in with the upcoming Venus transit.


~Mozart