Weekly Intel Dump 3/1/12 from VT's Gordon Duff

[modwiz]

Well, another week and another bombastic behind the scenes report from the one and only Gordon Duff. I do not believe anybody 100%, including myself. (I love this gem from 9eagle9-"I don't have to believe everything I think.") No one is perfect, but I like this man. He has connections few have and is on friendly and daily phone call terms with them. He is actually a whistleblower but shuns the term. I wish we would also. It is a weak term and overused at this point. Is is more of a job title these days than an proper noun.

He writes like we (he and I) attended the same creative writing class. Here is a good example:


"Rick Santorum calls Breitbart’s death a “huge loss.” The “huge loss” part is that Breitbart didn’t jump off a tall building and land on Santorum. That compounds the loss for all of us.:sarcastic:
I have had 19 year old heroes die in my arms and somehow this walking pile of excrement lasted 43 years."

Little tears of joy welled up in the corners of my eyes at the sheer honest prose of this man.

In case you are not inclined to read the article, here is another jewel:

"The GOP flooded the internet yesterday with statements indicating that Obama had spoken of Israel in front of top advisors: “If they aren’t going to listen, then they can go ‘F” themselves.”
The reason this was “sent out” was to try to shut down Jewish money heading for the Obama campaign. However, we have confirmed that Obama really said it and the use of “Israel” had nothing to do with being “Jewish.”:israel:

Gordon makes no bones about stating that Obama is better than he appears. Like DW and some others. Words like these will make me pay attention. If a real break occurs with the zionist lobby some opportunities will present themselves for Barack to show his sincerity and roll back some of the odious legislation that has received his signature lately.

"Oh, Moddy", you might say, "you're dreaming.":crazy: Well, here is the last piece I will pull from the article before I post the link and encourage you to read it in its' entirety.:pray:


"For those who do not know, listen carefully. I will limit hyperbole here.:ear:
Officially, the government of the United States including the CIA, State Department and Department of Defense, in addition to Treasury and the White House see our current relationship with Israel as “unsustainable” and “unhealthy.” :croc:
They go further. Israel, under it’s current government and its attempts to interfere in American politics through AIPAC, the ADL, the SPLC and other groups, is a liability to world peace and the welfare of the United States".:scared:

Nuff said. Get you some here:http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/03/01/weekly-intel-dump-march-1-2012/

[jackovesk]

He is actually a whistleblower

Indeed he is Modwiz,

In fact he is one of the most reliable sources of (Intel) on the net...:yes4:

Keep-em coming...

For those that don't bother to read Gordon's articles, its about time you did...:yes4:

So much indirect (Fantastical BS) coming from the likes of Wilcock & Fulford, this guy puts them to shame..!

Rgs,

Jack

PS -

Andrew Breitbart “Wait Til They See What Happens March 1st”

http://www.lsnewsgroup.com/2012/03/01/andrew-breitbart-wait-til-they-see-what-happens-march-1st/

Breitbart on Obama: I've Got Videos...That Nobody Has Seen

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/02/11/breitbart_on_obama_ive_got_videosthat_nobody_has_s een

Andrew Breitbart at CPAC 2012 02102012 - FULL SPEECH


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbycMtTUDfE

[Eric J (Viking)]

He is actually a whistleblower

Indeed he is Modwiz,

In fact he is one of the most reliable sources of (Intel) on the net...:yes4:

Keep-em coming...

For those that don't bother to read Gordon's articles, its about time you did...:yes4:

So much indirect (Fantastical BS) coming from the likes of Wilcock & Fulford, this guy puts them to shame..!

Rgs,

Jack

PS -

Andrew Breitbart “Wait Til They See What Happens March 1st”

http://www.lsnewsgroup.com/2012/03/01/andrew-breitbart-wait-til-they-see-what-happens-march-1st/

Breitbart on Obama: I've Got Videos...That Nobody Has Seen

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/02/11/breitbart_on_obama_ive_got_videosthat_nobody_has_s een

Andrew Breitbart at CPAC 2012 02102012 - FULL SPEECH


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbycMtTUDfE

Yep !! :suspicious:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41841-BREAKING--Andrew-Breitbart-DEAD-at-43--Only-weeks-after-threatening-to-expose-Obama-

viking

[mountain_jim]

I read this one last night. Someone else here had linked to it then.

While I agree with most of that Duff says here, he states in the comments:



I have been invited down there. I also know Obama was born in Oahu. There was never a mixed race child born in a Kenyan hospital to a white woman during that period.

The base ignorance of the situation there after the Kikuyu rebellion is absurd.

Those who repeat lies are liars. No proof except there is considerable proof that bribe money by some of the most evil people in the world has funded these falsehoods.

Thus, in attacking Obama over his birth, one becomes an associate of organized crime.

Those who finance the “birther” movement are also tied to the cartels in Mexico.

Past that, make your own guesses.



I understand he has great contacts, but I wonder how he would know Obama was born there. Because the 'official' long-form birth certificate released by the White House was an obvious (to me anyways) forgery, details of which have been well-documented elsewhere.

I suspect the theory might be accurate that that was done to keep him in line, whether he was or was not born there, that certificate is a fraud, and could be used against him later.

edit:
Just saw it was Paul in this post who linked there last night, and advanced the 'fake to control him' idea.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41098-Obama-Birth-Certificate-discrepancies&p=440170&viewfull=1#post440170

I so look forward to the day when the Zionists lose their control over our country's politicans and media, because the damage done is severe.

[modwiz]

I read this one last night. Someone else here had linked to it then.

While I agree with most of that Duff says here, he states in the comments:



I have been invited down there. I also know Obama was born in Oahu. There was never a mixed race child born in a Kenyan hospital to a white woman during that period.

The base ignorance of the situation there after the Kikuyu rebellion is absurd.

Those who repeat lies are liars. No proof except there is considerable proof that bribe money by some of the most evil people in the world has funded these falsehoods.

Thus, in attacking Obama over his birth, one becomes an associate of organized crime.

Those who finance the “birther” movement are also tied to the cartels in Mexico.

Past that, make your own guesses.



I understand he has great contacts, but I wonder how he would know Obama was born there. Because the 'official' long-form birth certificate released by the White House was an obvious (to me anyways) forgery, details of which have been well-documented elsewhere.

I suspect the theory might be accurate that that was done to keep him in line, whether he was or was not born there, that certificate is a fraud, and could be used against him later.

I so look forward to the day when the Zionists lose their control over our country's politicans and media, because the damage done is severe.

With all of the different stories floating around, I stay grounded by allowing parallel stories to run concurrently in my head without getting attached to any of them, because it really doesn't matter. Only my personal life and the inside of my head matters in any important sanity producing way.

We tend to get lost in details with these stories. Details ,atter when making things in the physical world, but in the forming of opinions there is plenty of room for different 'versions' of a story. As if you were working on a chapter for a book and had a few versions of those floating around.

Works for me. I use my mind like a hard drive with plenty of storage and a delete and edit function.

[mountain_jim]

yes Modwiz I do pretty much the same about the 'unknowable as yet' things.

It was Robert Anton Wilson's writings which helped me to learn to think that way - the Reality Tunnel concept among others.

RAW quotes:



Obviously, the faster we process information, the more rich and complex our models or glosses — our reality-tunnels — will become. Resistance to new information, however, has a strong neurological foundation in all animals, as indicated by studies of imprinting and conditioning. Most animals, including most domesticated primates (humans) show a truly staggering ability to "ignore" certain kinds of information — that which does not "fit" their imprinted/conditioned reality-tunnel. We generally call this "conservatism" or "stupidity", but it appears in all parts of the political spectrum, and in learned societies as well as in the Ku Klux Klan.

I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions.

Whatever the Thinker thinks, the Prover will prove. And if the Thinker thinks passionately enough, the Prover will prove the thought so conclusively that you will never talk a person out of such a belief, even if it is something as remarkable as the notion that there is a gaseous vertebrate of astronomical heft ("GOD") who will spend all eternity torturing people who do not believe in his religion.
Ch. 1 : The Thinker & The Prover, p. 28

Animals outline their territories with their excretions, humans outline their territories by ink excretions on paper.
Ch. 4 : The Anal Emotional Territiorial Circuit, p. 68

The current rampages of territorial-emotional pugnacity sweeping this planet are not just another civilization failing … They are the birth-pangs of a cosmic Prometheus rising out of the long nightmare of domesticated primate history.
Ch. 5 : Dickens & Joyce : The Two-Circuit Dialectic, p. 90

"Mind" is a tool invented by the universe to see itself; but it can never see all of itself, for much the same reason that you can’t see your own back (without mirrors).
Ch. 14 : The Meta Programming Circuit, p. 224

[ceetee9]

modwiz (and/or anyone who is more familiar with Mr. Duff's writings),

I have only been introduced to VT and Howard Duff recently and I have to say I agree with a lot of what he says. However, I'm detecting a liberal bias to his articles (at least the ones I have read so far). He seems to "liberally" bash the GOP and Republicans (I won't argue whether they deserve it or not), but I have found little bashing so far of the Obama administration or the Democrats. This indicates to me that he is not writing from a balanced perspective and does not have a clear understanding that BOTH parties are responsible for the mess we're in and the destruction of this country.

For instance, when (rightly) criticizing the NDAA legislation in his article titled "Bamboozeled-The NDAA Trojan Horse," Mr. Duff stated "The FBI never asked for it, the Army says they would never allow their troops to use it, the president says he was forced to sign it and found it offensive." Really? The worst he could say about the president was that he was FORCED to sign this egregious legislation into law (even though he ostensibly found it offensive)--never mind the fact that it took DEMOCRATS, as well as Republicans, to pass the bill so he COULD sign it.

If I'm wrong about this observation--and I acknowledge I very well could be with my limited exposure to his writings, please point me to some articles where he demonstrates a more balanced approach by bringing to light the atrocities of the Democratic party as well.

[modwiz]

modwiz (and/or anyone who is more familiar with Mr. Duff's writings),

I have only been introduced to VT and Howard Duff recently and I have to say I agree with a lot of what he says. However, I'm detecting a liberal bias to his articles (at least the ones I have read so far). He seems to "liberally" bash the GOP and Republicans (I won't argue whether they deserve it or not), but I have found little bashing so far of the Obama administration or the Democrats. This indicates to me that he is not writing from a balanced perspective and does not have a clear understanding that BOTH parties are responsible for the mess we're in and the destruction of this country.

For instance, when (rightly) criticizing the NDAA legislation in his article titled "Bamboozeled-The NDAA Trojan Horse," Mr. Duff stated "The FBI never asked for it, the Army says they would never allow their troops to use it, the president says he was forced to sign it and found it offensive." Really? The worst he could say about the president was that he was FORCED to sign this egregious legislation into law (even though he ostensibly found it offensive)--never mind the fact that it took DEMOCRATS, as well as Republicans, to pass the bill so he COULD sign it.

If I'm wrong about this observation--and I acknowledge I very well could be with my limited exposure to his writings, please point me to some articles where he demonstrates a more balanced approach by bringing to light the atrocities of the Democratic party as well.

Although I have no problem with a liberal or conservative bias as long as it is honest and well reasoned, as well as being what it says it is. Cutting taxes while increasing spending is not conservative by any actual definition of the word so titles that are useless, are useless. Being for gun control is not being liberal either.

So, that being said, I will reiterate what I said at the beginning of this thread that no one speaks for me in all of the nuances of my reality. I do not share Mr. Duff's identification with parties at all. All titles are meaningless to me, we only have criminals in two basic flavors to dupe the 'marks' of the criminals. There are two crime families in D.C. D's and R's. So, I just ignore his references and get down to the details. If he is comfortable with making distinctions I am fine with that. Besides, he is in rooms with all of the people and knows many of them personally. Perhaps he knows something I don't.

The democratic party needs no light shone on their atrocities, they are in the news every day. A light would be wasting electricity, LOL. I honestly can't really tell the difference by what they do, only by what they say. They are actors and have roles to play. The bleeding hearts and the heartless. The gonadless and the clueless. What a circus.

[ceetee9]

I hear what you're saying mw and I agree for the most part. I can't tell the difference between the parties either (except for the BS they drool out), but my problem with liberal/Dem vs conservative/Rep biases is that they perpetuate the myth that there is actually a difference between them in reality; which keeps our political duality going strong because the vast majority of Americans can't (or won't) see through the joke that is being played on them. So while we all sit around still arguing over the two parity's ideologies--which haven't been manifest in decades, if ever--the controllers keep laughing all the way to the bank at how incredibly stupid we are to keep falling for the same BS election after election after election.

I wish someone would create a video of snippets of election candidate's campaign speeches from both sides over the last 40-50 years. We'd see the same few topics being debated, with the same arguments, and the same promises to "fix" them. It would be hilarious, if it wasn't so sick that we could be so stupid and easily manipulated and led to believe that there was an ounce of truth to anything they said, or that "this time" the party of "hope" was going to fix anything.

And so I have little doubt that this election year, like all those before, will be no different. The sheeple will come out in droves and vote for their party's candidate, or the prettiest one, or the one most likely to win, or the "most qualified" (read, best connected) like they always do and the country will continue in its downward spiral to oblivion. Sad...

[TargeT]

I wish someone would create a video of snippets of election candidate's campaign speeches from both sides over the last 40-50 years. We'd see the same few topics being debated, with the same arguments, and the same promises to "fix" them. It would be hilarious, if it wasn't so sick that we could be so stupid and easily manipulated and led to believe that there was an ounce of truth to anything they said, or that "this time" the party of "hope" was going to fix anything.


YOU are "someone" ;)

I'll venture to guess you are on a windows computer here's what I use for easy video creation: http://www.windows-movie-maker.org/?gclid=CPHaj_X6yK4CFQQZQgodxQG1Cg

I think what you speak of would be an excelent video & will offer my limited editing skills if you need any help :)

I see what your saying with "duff" & it sucks that so many people have biases to the "two party system" (or the divide and conqure system, as I refer to it) but I think that is a pre-req. to being in media, no one flocks to read the 'ballanced' opinion..

I still cringe when I see "pro obama" stuff, but only because I spent a lot of my life as a "conservative" (which is a joke, because the that term has been heavily corrupted & preverted for years now).

[mosquito]

Some interesting discussion here, thanks !!

It pays to read as many people as possible in order to get a balanced view of things, not just those people we agree with (or put another way - not just those people who share our own particular bias).

Modwiz - I like what you say about having parallel stories running in your head, I can definitely identify with that ! As I've got older I've noticed that my thoughts and ideas are actually becoming less and less coherent (if I were to go anywhere near a doctor's surgery, I'm sure I'd get diagnosed as schizophrenic !), and I'm gradually becoming more comfortable with the process and just observing the stories play out, without being attached to the outcome.

Mountain Jim - Thanks for the quotes from RAW, I'll look into what he says !

[jackovesk]

The Funniest thing in this Marching Clip is there all moving in the same direction...

Democrat - Republican - Democrat - Republican - Left - Right - Left - Right...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7MlFdFs1z0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7MlFdFs1z0&feature=related

[Kindred]

I agree with much of Gordon Duff has to say about our 'state of world affairs', along with several others... but the question I have for All is; if all these 'power brokers' are proceeding to destroy each other, Who is slated to appear to 'bring it all together' for the ultimate consolidation of this divided power structure?

Any Suggestions??? (not that it ultimately matters...;) )

In Unity and Peace

[mountain_jim]

Some interesting discussion here, thanks !!

Mountain Jim - Thanks for the quotes from RAW, I'll look into what he says !

From memory, it seems to me a grounding in his way of approaching reality was laid out in Cosmic Trigger 1 and 2, Quantum Psychology, and for a partnered work of 'psychedelic fiction' , The Illuminatus Trilogy, where obscure, weird facts and history such as those you would find in Fortean Times are mixed in with fantasy in a mix that's hard to determine where the truth is and what is fantasy at times...... sortof like our world of info/disinfo these days. :)